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S3E22: Coffee & Pie · Black Ibis Social Club

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SPEAKER_01: Alright, welcome to the Black Ibis Social Club.
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SPEAKER_01: Hope you guys all had a great two weeks since we last hung out.
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SPEAKER_01: I was thinking about you guys today.
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SPEAKER_01: I was trying to come up with some topics going through the answers
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SPEAKER_01: to questions everybody may say.
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SPEAKER_01: Driving down the bridge, right?
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SPEAKER_01: I left work kind of early because I had a physical therapy appointment
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SPEAKER_01: and my physical therapist tortured me today, you know?
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SPEAKER_01: But for all you guys, you should be proud of me.
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SPEAKER_01: All across the board, I'm ready to lift.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm ready to hit the iron.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm excited.
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SPEAKER_01: I actually said, hey, you get to go now.
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SPEAKER_01: You can start doing all kinds of crazy workouts.
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SPEAKER_01: So...
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SPEAKER_01: That's good, man.
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SPEAKER_01: I recovered hard.
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SPEAKER_01: Fisto, turn off your fucking beeping sound.
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SPEAKER_00: What beeping sound?
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, no.
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SPEAKER_00: I apologize.
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SPEAKER_00: It's like the chat.
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SPEAKER_01: I was driving down a river, I mean,
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SPEAKER_01: down the road, crossing the rivers, and I crossed these two bridges on my way home.
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SPEAKER_01: And there was a thunderstorm ahead of me, and I could see the lightning hit the ground.
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SPEAKER_01: It was to the left and to the right.
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SPEAKER_01: It was just sunny and beautiful.
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SPEAKER_01: South Carolina, like a low country swamp kind of marshland.
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SPEAKER_01: And I don't know if you guys have ever been down to South Carolina.
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SPEAKER_01: It has some of the most beautiful skies.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, California, the West Coast has beautiful skies, but they're different.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a different kind of sky than it is here.
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SPEAKER_01: The sky down here is like cotton candy.
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SPEAKER_01: It has this cotton candy look to it, and the clouds are fluffy.
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SPEAKER_01: But in front of me, it was just darkness, just gray clouds and just lightning.
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SPEAKER_01: I could see the lightning strikes.
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SPEAKER_01: And I was like, well, that's kind of cool.
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SPEAKER_01: Maybe I'll get hit by lightning.
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SPEAKER_01: I've never been hit by lightning.
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SPEAKER_01: Have you ever been hit by lightning before, Fisto?
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SPEAKER_00: No.
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SPEAKER_00: No, I've never been hit by lightning.
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SPEAKER_01: But you get superpowers when you get hit by lightning.
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SPEAKER_01: That's like powder.
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SPEAKER_01: Remember that movie Powder?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, the closest, the closest I've ever been.
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SPEAKER_01: You become like Billy Corgan, like some kind of pale retard and you can like heal people.
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SPEAKER_00: This will make you laugh.
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SPEAKER_00: The closest I've ever been to getting struck by lightning was actually at church.
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SPEAKER_00: I had forgotten something in the car and I went out to go get it and I was like,
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SPEAKER_00: ooh, I better hurry up because I got to be back before service starts.
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SPEAKER_00: And as I was walking back from my car, it was like, Probably a good maybe like 30 yards away.
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SPEAKER_00: Just crack, boom.
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SPEAKER_00: I was like, oh shit, I'm going to fucking hurry up.
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SPEAKER_00: Get my ass inside.
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SPEAKER_00: It was actually, it got the fight or flight going immediately.
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SPEAKER_01: It actually happened to me in California.
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SPEAKER_01: It was a lightning strike and it hit a tree right next to where we were standing and
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SPEAKER_01: that was pretty damn scary.
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SPEAKER_01: And he cracked the tree in half and
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SPEAKER_01: Here in South Carolina, it's a lot more stormy than California.
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SPEAKER_01: California is a lot more dry desert.
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SPEAKER_01: We have some beautiful storms in California, but not as much as here in South Carolina.
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SPEAKER_01: I've been here for almost four years now.
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SPEAKER_01: I've been in South Carolina for almost four years, and I'm not used to how wet it always is.
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SPEAKER_01: It just feels wet all the time.
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SPEAKER_01: The soil...
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SPEAKER_01: You could have a beautiful sunny day and you touch my grass in my backyard or just
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SPEAKER_01: the dirt in my backyard or anywhere and it's just wet.
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SPEAKER_00: Everything is always moist.
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SPEAKER_01: There's never any dryness at all.
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SPEAKER_01: The leaves are always wet.
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SPEAKER_01: Everything is just wet all the time.
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SPEAKER_01: It's interesting.
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SPEAKER_01: Everything smells like earthy and like decomposing
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SPEAKER_00: and The smell of moisture,
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SPEAKER_00: moisture everywhere.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, moist, moisty maggots squirming in all the grass,
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SPEAKER_00: you know?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're in that time of year now where we get a thunderstorm literally every afternoon.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's not like a little crackly crack crack.
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SPEAKER_00: It's straight up, the power's going out every day.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: I wanted to go, I wanted to go to the pool this afternoon, you know, I wanted to go to the pool.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, no, no.
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SPEAKER_01: And it was just like lightning storms and everything.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm like, man, I kind of wanted to get
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SPEAKER_00: murked, get murked.
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SPEAKER_01: Do a pool day with my daughter before she starts school tomorrow.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, oh, man.
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SPEAKER_01: But you know what I found out?
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SPEAKER_00: What'd you find out?
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SPEAKER_01: That the Highlander films?
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: Right?
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SPEAKER_01: Are all fiction.
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SPEAKER_00: Dude, that blew my mind.
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SPEAKER_00: That blew my mind.
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SPEAKER_00: I could not believe, like,
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SPEAKER_00: this entire fucking time,
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SPEAKER_00: this entire fucking time,
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SPEAKER_00: I thought they were documentaries about Sean Connery's life.
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SPEAKER_00: And then I find out that.
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SPEAKER_01: Did you see that post?
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SPEAKER_00: That was great.
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SPEAKER_00: That was great.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm not, like, are you, like, what?
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SPEAKER_01: For you guys,
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SPEAKER_01: there's this like random post and this guy posted like he posted like
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SPEAKER_01: the original post was a
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SPEAKER_01: It was like the back of a Nissan Highlander SUV.
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SPEAKER_01: Toyota Highlander, Toyota Highlander.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Toyota Highlander, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Toyota Highlander.
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SPEAKER_01: And it has like five stick men decapitated and the sixth stick man,
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SPEAKER_01: he's holding like a sword, you know?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And obviously it's a reference to the movie Highlander where there can only be one.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: And the guy, like some randos like, yeah, I watched those Highlander films.
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SPEAKER_01: Good, but all fiction.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, what?
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SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't like, is he, and then Jack Kidder's like, good point.
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SPEAKER_00: That was awesome.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, are we being serious here?
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SPEAKER_01: Or are we just the straight up schizo world, you know?
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SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: Wasn't there supposed to be a remake of the Highlander movies made?
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SPEAKER_01: Or was it made in, like, I completely missed it?
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SPEAKER_00: I think what's so funny about that post is Is that it seems to be like you made
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SPEAKER_00: the joke before we started that it seems like I've been fighting
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SPEAKER_00: with people all week.
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SPEAKER_00: And I'll explain why.
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SPEAKER_00: I'll explain why shortly.
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SPEAKER_00: But I think part of it is that in the past couple of weeks,
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SPEAKER_00: there's been this glut of humorless,
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SPEAKER_00: like every joke is an opportunity to flex my debate muscles, my argument skills.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's just like, dude, shut up.
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SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
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SPEAKER_01: You know,
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SPEAKER_01: we need to come to the realization,
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SPEAKER_01: all of us that have been on Substack since,
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SPEAKER_01: because I think we've been on, I've been on Substack since like the first month.
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SPEAKER_00: Years.
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SPEAKER_01: Years.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Many years.
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SPEAKER_01: You know those pictures I posted about like in Papua New Guinea and stuff?
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SPEAKER_01: I was actually on Substack then.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I was in Poland.
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SPEAKER_00: I was in Poland when I was on Substack.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: Years ago.
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SPEAKER_01: Man, and it was a,
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SPEAKER_01: we just have to come to the sad realization that it's never going to be
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SPEAKER_01: that fun again.
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SPEAKER_01: When like the majority of people, it's like, that's the problem.
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SPEAKER_01: At first,
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SPEAKER_01: it's all the cool kids and it's like any party,
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SPEAKER_01: any group,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: and then the dorks start showing up and then the really dorky people like show up
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SPEAKER_01: and like,
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SPEAKER_01: You know,
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SPEAKER_01: the internet, like,
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SPEAKER_01: sadly, I feel like young people are not on the internet for the most part anymore.
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SPEAKER_01: So, only, like, retarded boomers are on the internet.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's just, like, the most... Have you ever been on Facebook recently?
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SPEAKER_00: I actually just looked.
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SPEAKER_00: I actually just looked at Facebook.
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SPEAKER_00: I created an account recently.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's so bad.
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SPEAKER_00: Because all of the quote-unquote discourse in my town happens on Facebook.
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SPEAKER_00: So, I never look at it.
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SPEAKER_00: I never look at it.
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SPEAKER_00: But...
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SPEAKER_01: It is bad, bro.
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SPEAKER_01: The one good thing about algorithms and AI algorithms that we are trapped in,
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SPEAKER_01: my Instagram algorithm, for example, is amazing.
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SPEAKER_01: It gives me arty pictures about Euro trash stuff, anime,
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SPEAKER_01: Euro trashy, Japan trashy anime, 1980s Japanese city pop and a bunch of racisms.
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SPEAKER_00: That's basically all I get.
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SPEAKER_00: And a bunch of racisms, plural.
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SPEAKER_01: Stuff about Daisy videos and stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: It's pretty solid, man.
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SPEAKER_01: But sometimes you get out of your algorithm and you end up in other people's world.
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SPEAKER_01: It's literally going through a portal.
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SPEAKER_01: You go on Facebook and you're like, Oh my God, is this how people really are?
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SPEAKER_01: You know, like this boomer brain, like boomer slap or like normie stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: Or even on Substack,
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SPEAKER_01: sometimes if you like,
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SPEAKER_01: Like you accidentally like,
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SPEAKER_01: that's why like I try,
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SPEAKER_01: if you notice,
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SPEAKER_01: I try not to argue with people you argue with because that's going to like.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like letting a cockroach into your house, bro.
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SPEAKER_01: And like you bring one and then like it lays its eggs, its ooze slices or whatever.
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SPEAKER_01: And it drops its egg sack and then all the other retards show up.
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SPEAKER_01: And now like you're reading like black Twitter and it's just like straight out
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SPEAKER_01: the most retarded shit on the planet.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, like.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, the key is to have an autocannon armed robot.
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SPEAKER_00: That is the key.
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SPEAKER_00: So the moment a cockroach shows up, just the entire area is destroyed.
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SPEAKER_00: Nuke it from orbit.
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SPEAKER_00: It's the only way to be sure.
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SPEAKER_01: Right like the other day I made the mistake of like looking at guns
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SPEAKER_01: or something like that I was I don't know what I was looking
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SPEAKER_01: at I was like I was like looking at gun videos on on instagram
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SPEAKER_01: and you can't just look at like I was looking at like my buddy
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SPEAKER_01: and I were I was sitting at work and we were looking at Videos from like
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SPEAKER_01: the eighties with the Romanian made AK, which has this Ford dongle grip thing.
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SPEAKER_01: All right.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you're ever familiar with like the Romanian made AKs has this Ford grip.
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SPEAKER_01: Like it's like, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: It looks cool.
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SPEAKER_01: And that of course led me to like American gun stuff and gun stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: It's adjacent, adjacent to like really gay, like mustache, beard oil stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_01: Like the dudes that are like,
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SPEAKER_01: like selling you,
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SPEAKER_01: they're like,
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SPEAKER_01: Quit Zins, take this special dip thing that makes you smart and blah, blah, blah.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like the Black Rifle Coffee stuff, you know, like that kind of shit, right?
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SPEAKER_01: And that stuff is gayer than like a gay disco in New York in 1988, okay?
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SPEAKER_01: That's how, like, I hate that stuff, dude.
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SPEAKER_01: That faux masculine stuff with the beards and the beard oil and...
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SPEAKER_01: You know, like, I don't know, man.
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SPEAKER_01: I just, I hate that.
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SPEAKER_01: I just hate that.
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SPEAKER_00: Back when, back when beard oil was just slang for anal sex lube.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like, ugh.
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SPEAKER_00: Let's be real.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't want to, like,
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SPEAKER_00: drink your black rifle
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SPEAKER_01: coffee and, like,
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SPEAKER_01: double dip your, like, you know, fucking, like, I don't know, like, I hate it, dude.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know what.
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SPEAKER_00: Black rifle dick.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like, fuck you, dude.
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SPEAKER_01: I hate that shit, man.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there it is.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, there's a lot of that, like, it's, like,
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SPEAKER_01: kind of like the,
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SPEAKER_01: you know, the wife guy kind of Protestant preacher vibe thing to it, too.
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SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_01: Like, this, like, yeah, bros,
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SPEAKER_01: me and my bros,
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SPEAKER_01: we're, like, we're sticking these zins in our butt and praising Jesus.
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SPEAKER_00: You know,
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SPEAKER_00: I got to think back to my early days in Colorado,
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SPEAKER_00: and I had a boss who she, uh,
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SPEAKER_00: She actually went to one of those megachurches where the dude ended up being like
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SPEAKER_00: a massive meth,
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SPEAKER_00: a massive meth smoking rent boy fucking like the whole basically,
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SPEAKER_00: basically a character from the Righteous Gemstones.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, straight up.
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SPEAKER_00: Drove by that church every day on my way to work.
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SPEAKER_00: And she was telling me about it.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm just like, that's fucking insane.
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SPEAKER_00: She's like, yeah, yeah, it was all true.
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SPEAKER_00: And she just gave me a look.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I don't even want to know.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't want to know.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't want to know.
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SPEAKER_00: She was a lesbian, so I figured she was probably in on it at some stage.
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SPEAKER_01: It's all a giant disaster.
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SPEAKER_00: It's such a fucking disaster, dude.
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SPEAKER_00: It is David Lynch, Hellscape, Black Lodge.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't even fucking know.
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SPEAKER_01: I'd rather go to the Black Lodge than the megachurch.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, actually.
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SPEAKER_01: I would hang out with the midget dude dancing backwards and speaking backwards
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SPEAKER_01: who turned into some kind of fetus tree or whatever the hell he turned into.
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SPEAKER_00: I am the arm and I make this sound.
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SPEAKER_00: I feel like there's a lot less retards in the Black Lodge.
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SPEAKER_00: They just can't get there.
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SPEAKER_00: It's just not...
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SPEAKER_00: You have to have a certain level of insolification to end up in a place like that.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like the owls will not let you pass.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: You don't get the white lodge.
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SPEAKER_00: You don't get the black lodge.
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SPEAKER_00: You don't get anything.
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SPEAKER_00: You just,
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SPEAKER_00: you just remain like in that house at the beginning of the return where there's
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SPEAKER_00: that dude standing out front with a double barrel and
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SPEAKER_00: the doppelganger just wrecks his shit.
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SPEAKER_00: Like that's who you get to be.
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SPEAKER_00: You get to be the guy that gets his shit wrecked.
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SPEAKER_00: By the doppelganger.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's just, you got to get better guys.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: By the Cooper, the Cooper doppelganger.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: So today for you guys that are joining us live and people listening at home to
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SPEAKER_01: the most coziest of cozy stacks,
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SPEAKER_01: the Black Ibis Social Club,
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SPEAKER_01: I decided to,
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SPEAKER_01: you know, not really have a topic because, well, I just, I don't have one today.
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SPEAKER_01: And I made a list of topics.
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SPEAKER_01: I do every, you know, every, every week.
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SPEAKER_01: And I was just like, you know, I don't really want to talk about anything specific.
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SPEAKER_01: I'll let you guys guide me.
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SPEAKER_01: So I put it out and they gave us some topics on the Substack.
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SPEAKER_00: Did we get some topics?
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SPEAKER_01: We got some topics, right?
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SPEAKER_01: And I took a little bit of notes to answer these questions.
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SPEAKER_01: And so basically for you guys, let's consider this like an ASMR chill stack moment.
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SPEAKER_01: Imagine yourself in a nice lounge, right?
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SPEAKER_01: There might be a pool table.
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SPEAKER_01: It's not a strip club.
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SPEAKER_01: It's more like an upscale gentleman's club.
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SPEAKER_01: And there's nice leather chairs, and you can just take a seat, light up a cigar or a cigarette.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm a proletariat.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm more of a cigarette guy.
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SPEAKER_01: Get yourself a cup of coffee or a beer or an old-fashioned or whatever you like
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SPEAKER_01: to drink, you know?
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SPEAKER_01: A GLP-1 cocktail.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't care.
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SPEAKER_01: Do it, right?
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SPEAKER_01: And we're going to talk about stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: So first of all, before I go into the actual topics, what are you doing, Fisto?
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SPEAKER_01: What are you up to?
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SPEAKER_00: What am I up to?
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SPEAKER_00: Well, first,
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SPEAKER_00: I just want to warn people that the Black Ibis Social Club is everything
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SPEAKER_00: that Alex just explained.
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SPEAKER_00: But do keep in mind that it took us less than 15 minutes to get the Black Lodge posting.
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SPEAKER_00: I just want to point that out.
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SPEAKER_00: 15 minutes in.
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SPEAKER_00: 15 minutes in.
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SPEAKER_00: I think that's a new record.
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SPEAKER_00: But anyway, what am I up to?
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SPEAKER_00: Teachers went back this week.
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SPEAKER_00: Teachers went back this week.
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SPEAKER_00: So we're getting ready for The return of students,
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SPEAKER_00: getting our rooms ready, lesson planning, doing all the things that teachers do.
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SPEAKER_00: We had our open house this week,
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SPEAKER_00: which open house is my first opportunity to find out how good
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SPEAKER_00: the previous year actually was.
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SPEAKER_00: Because, you know, all the numbers and all the testing, fuck all that shit, right?
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SPEAKER_00: The reaction of students when I see them after it's been an entire summer tells me way more.
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SPEAKER_00: And I do it based kind of off the rule of 10.
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SPEAKER_00: If one person gives you feedback,
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SPEAKER_00: there's probably about 10 other people who were thinking it and just never said it.
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SPEAKER_01: Right, that's a good, that's a real thing.
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SPEAKER_00: So I had about probably 15 to 20 students
16:26
SPEAKER_00: Come find me, say hello, go out of their way to see what I've been up to over the summer.
16:32
SPEAKER_00: And I have probably like five literally blast down my door.
16:36
SPEAKER_00: Just, I had one fellow who literally, actually
16:38
SPEAKER_01: a couple of fellows came over.
16:39
SPEAKER_00: They were just like, yeah, I just came over here to see you.
16:42
SPEAKER_00: What's going on, buddy?
16:43
SPEAKER_00: Like straight up, just bros, bro out completely.
16:48
SPEAKER_00: A few of them even brought up my Starship Troopers unit from last year, which was awesome.
16:53
SPEAKER_00: There was one guy who was like, man, I'm still mad I lost.
16:56
SPEAKER_00: I'm still mad we didn't win that.
16:58
SPEAKER_00: Like, hell yeah, brother.
17:01
SPEAKER_01: Hell yeah, brother.
17:06
SPEAKER_01: Are you doing Starship Troopers again?
17:07
SPEAKER_00: Probably, probably.
17:10
SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to convince my coworker to do it with me.
17:15
SPEAKER_00: I don't think he has the,
17:17
SPEAKER_00: he's a great guy,
17:17
SPEAKER_00: but he doesn't quite have the patience,
17:19
SPEAKER_00: I think,
17:19
SPEAKER_00: for like,
17:20
SPEAKER_00: Doing a full-on novel and like, you know, the audiobook and like all that stuff.
17:25
SPEAKER_00: But I'm going to try to convince him to do it.
17:29
SPEAKER_00: I've been able to develop the lesson a little bit this summer.
17:34
SPEAKER_00: So if I take two months to do it,
17:38
SPEAKER_00: I'll end up with a much more robust, a much more scholarly pursuit.
17:43
SPEAKER_00: But I'm going to leave that up to fate.
17:47
SPEAKER_00: So we'll see.
17:48
SPEAKER_00: Nice.
17:48
SPEAKER_00: But yeah.
17:50
SPEAKER_00: Probably.
17:50
SPEAKER_00: So that was really great.
17:52
SPEAKER_00: I met a bunch of my new students.
17:56
SPEAKER_00: They're all tiny little eighth graders who don't know anything yet.
18:00
SPEAKER_00: And it's all just, oh, you're so adorable.
18:04
SPEAKER_00: And then I'm about to curb stomp you right in the face with John Locke.
18:10
SPEAKER_01: I just think it's awesome that...
18:12
SPEAKER_00: But anyway.
18:14
SPEAKER_01: I just think that it's awesome that us...
18:17
SPEAKER_01: And all the listeners on the podcast and a lot of the guests we've had on
18:22
SPEAKER_01: the podcast,
18:22
SPEAKER_01: which are also listeners,
18:23
SPEAKER_01: we have been kind of instrumental in coming up with some of your lessons plans over
18:29
SPEAKER_01: the years.
18:30
SPEAKER_01: A lot of the ideas you've had were first explored here live, which is pretty cool.
18:36
SPEAKER_01: I remember when we talked about Mishima and then he did a Mishima class
18:39
SPEAKER_01: and that's pretty awesome.
18:43
SPEAKER_01: So for you listeners, you guys are like, we're making a difference here, guys.
18:48
SPEAKER_01: We're doing the opposite of shit liberty, okay?
18:50
SPEAKER_01: We're actually educating the youth of America towards being forest rebels.
18:55
SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes.
18:58
SPEAKER_00: The biggest reason I am on Substack is not just to make people laugh and yell
19:01
SPEAKER_00: at retards.
19:02
SPEAKER_00: I actually use it for a lot of my information,
19:04
SPEAKER_00: a lot of my kind of More cutting edge stuff,
19:07
SPEAKER_00: for example, with the Starship Troopers unit.
19:11
SPEAKER_00: I didn't get into it a ton, but the Tree of Woe has a couple of essays about stratocracy.
19:18
SPEAKER_00: He specifically has one where he explores stratocratic contract theory
19:24
SPEAKER_00: and basically explains how the United States was actually founded as a stratocracy
19:28
SPEAKER_00: to begin with because the Minutemen seized power, right?
19:32
SPEAKER_00: So like I use those essays.
19:37
SPEAKER_00: Fortis Vita, I think is how you say it.
19:39
SPEAKER_00: He's the weightlifting guy and some of the stuff with Jason,
19:41
SPEAKER_00: like I've used some of the ideas that I've seen from those guys.
19:45
SPEAKER_00: Even the more Manosphere,
19:47
SPEAKER_00: gender slop war stuff,
19:49
SPEAKER_00: like I don't know if Rowan Goswin made himself in or like some
19:52
SPEAKER_00: of those guys are like Medgold.
19:54
SPEAKER_00: I'll use some of those ideas in class or just kind of allow myself to be influenced
19:59
SPEAKER_00: by these ideas.
20:01
SPEAKER_00: And it has helped me become a better teacher, 100%.
20:05
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you throw stuff back and forth,
20:09
SPEAKER_01: you know, and it's just like, you know, sometimes, like, sometimes, right?
20:14
SPEAKER_01: Like, look,
20:17
SPEAKER_01: for the most part,
20:19
SPEAKER_01: most of the conversations with, like,
20:21
SPEAKER_01: super lefty kind of people,
20:23
SPEAKER_01: like, What lefties need to realize is that they're normies, right?
20:28
SPEAKER_01: Most of their kind of commie, light beliefs and that kind of stuff, it's really normie.
20:35
SPEAKER_01: It's the stuff that we've been kind of fed since we were in elementary school.
20:39
SPEAKER_01: Right.
20:41
SPEAKER_01: Take any random lefty nonsense,
20:45
SPEAKER_01: any lefty feminist,
20:46
SPEAKER_01: garbage,
20:47
SPEAKER_01: Substack, Boomer, Poster, Post,
20:49
SPEAKER_01: and it's nothing that Star Trek The Next Generation hasn't already taught me
20:53
SPEAKER_01: when I was like 70.
20:54
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
20:56
SPEAKER_01: There's nothing shocking in anything that these guys put out.
21:01
SPEAKER_01: It's worth engaging with some really out there crazy leftists because they're
21:06
SPEAKER_01: a little bit more interesting.
21:08
SPEAKER_01: But for the most part,
21:09
SPEAKER_01: the kind of stuff that That we see posted by these guys
21:13
SPEAKER_01: that consider themselves radical.
21:15
SPEAKER_01: It's so mainstream and so normie.
21:17
SPEAKER_01: They're such clowns, right?
21:19
SPEAKER_01: It's not even interesting.
21:21
SPEAKER_01: So that's why really the only discourse is really a right writing discourse, right?
21:26
SPEAKER_01: It's between like, you know, pagan bros and Christian guys.
21:30
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, that's the only interest because We already know that leftist stuff is retarded.
21:37
SPEAKER_01: It's just like a given.
21:38
SPEAKER_01: There's nothing really worth engaging.
21:40
SPEAKER_01: So what we're really kind of trying to iron out is differences
21:45
SPEAKER_01: in right-wing thought, which is much more of a diverse kind of view.
21:50
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we saw that with the whole You know, the idiot, vitalist thing.
21:55
SPEAKER_01: But like I said,
21:56
SPEAKER_01: even though that was kind of funny,
21:57
SPEAKER_01: that was kind of a joke because those guys aren't serious.
21:59
SPEAKER_01: Like, you know,
22:00
SPEAKER_01: like those guys, I blocked all those guys because I didn't, like, I was bored of it.
22:03
SPEAKER_01: I, like, you bore me, you know?
22:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
22:05
SPEAKER_01: Because it's not really engaging.
22:07
SPEAKER_01: Like, like, like people will say, oh, Alex, you blocked people.
22:09
SPEAKER_01: You don't want to have discourse.
22:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
22:11
SPEAKER_01: Like, okay, there's like, I think a two-hour podcast was enough.
22:17
SPEAKER_01: Their entire philosophy is pieced together from Wikipedia articles.
22:21
SPEAKER_01: It's not really interesting.
22:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, something important too.
22:25
SPEAKER_00: I just want to interject there before I forget.
22:28
SPEAKER_00: Something important too is not only do you get to deal with all that stuff
22:32
SPEAKER_00: in advance of the students,
22:34
SPEAKER_00: but some of the shit that I've read on Substack and some of the things
22:37
SPEAKER_00: that have been said to me on Substack,
22:39
SPEAKER_00: when I get in the classroom,
22:41
SPEAKER_00: It's just guys,
22:42
SPEAKER_00: you just don't know,
22:44
SPEAKER_00: you know, like,
22:44
SPEAKER_00: like a kid will try to say something edgy or like,
22:47
SPEAKER_00: you know,
22:47
SPEAKER_00: they'll try to get into my skin or like,
22:49
SPEAKER_00: I actually have a few students where I have an open dialogue with them
22:52
SPEAKER_00: on improving their, you know, comedic timing and sense of insult comedy.
22:57
SPEAKER_00: And just one of these days,
22:57
SPEAKER_00: I'm just going to be like, listen, you're a bunch of bat nigger feel faggots.
23:02
SPEAKER_00: Like,
23:06
SPEAKER_00: Will Martin says, sucker.
23:07
SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't even want to hear it.
23:09
SPEAKER_00: I don't even want to hear it.
23:12
SPEAKER_00: But that's good, though,
23:13
SPEAKER_00: because then it puts me in a position where it's just whatever they say is going
23:19
SPEAKER_00: to roll off my back.
23:20
SPEAKER_00: I don't even care.
23:21
SPEAKER_00: Like, guys, you just have no idea.
23:23
SPEAKER_01: Right.
23:24
SPEAKER_01: I mean, ultimately, right?
23:26
SPEAKER_01: Like, it just...
23:30
SPEAKER_01: It's just really boring.
23:32
SPEAKER_01: And in the vitalist thing,
23:33
SPEAKER_01: in the masculine kind of camp,
23:35
SPEAKER_01: I think the best writer in that kind of camp is Jack Donovan.
23:39
SPEAKER_01: And Jack Donovan's been writing this stuff.
23:42
SPEAKER_01: I was reading Jack Donovan's stuff back in 2000, before my daughter was born.
23:47
SPEAKER_01: So 2015, 16.
23:49
SPEAKER_01: And he wrote The Way of Men, which is a much better book than...
23:53
SPEAKER_01: Any of the violinist stuff and he,
23:55
SPEAKER_01: you know,
23:55
SPEAKER_01: his stuff and he's interesting,
23:56
SPEAKER_01: but you know, he's not annoying and he's, uh, he's actually gay.
23:59
SPEAKER_01: So it's even more interesting.
24:02
SPEAKER_01: Um, and he actually looks like a,
24:04
SPEAKER_01: like a fucking Chad,
24:05
SPEAKER_01: you know,
24:06
SPEAKER_01: you see the guy and you're like, okay,
24:07
SPEAKER_01: you're like,
24:07
SPEAKER_01: you're like 46, 40,
24:09
SPEAKER_01: some 50 years old and you look like a beast and,
24:11
SPEAKER_01: you know, and, uh, He can talk about all that stuff, right?
24:17
SPEAKER_01: But it's interesting.
24:18
SPEAKER_01: He's actually really smart about it.
24:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
24:21
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
24:21
SPEAKER_01: So we did that, right?
24:23
SPEAKER_01: We ignored that stuff.
24:24
SPEAKER_01: I block it.
24:25
SPEAKER_01: I don't care.
24:25
SPEAKER_01: I'm not interested anymore.
24:27
SPEAKER_01: If you're stupid, what are we going to do?
24:29
SPEAKER_01: Have the same conversations over it?
24:31
SPEAKER_01: And what's his name, Derek or Devon or whatever his name is, right?
24:35
SPEAKER_01: D-Wayne.
24:37
SPEAKER_01: He looks like a D-Wayne.
24:38
SPEAKER_01: His name is Derek, but I think he's like a D-Wayne.
24:40
SPEAKER_01: He looks like the dude from like,
24:42
SPEAKER_01: do you remember that show with the squids that are like hillbilly squids?
24:47
SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
24:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
24:48
SPEAKER_01: Like the squidbillies or whatever.
24:51
SPEAKER_01: Oh, squidbillies.
24:52
SPEAKER_01: Do you remember that show?
24:53
SPEAKER_01: He looks like a squidbilly.
24:55
SPEAKER_01: That's what he looks like with that gold chain and that stupid hat he had on.
24:59
SPEAKER_00: He's a fucking squidbilly.
25:01
SPEAKER_00: He's not even an A-A-Rod.
25:02
SPEAKER_00: He's a D.D.
25:02
SPEAKER_00: Wayne.
25:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's a D.D.
25:05
SPEAKER_01: Wayne squidbilly.
25:06
SPEAKER_01: Whatever, D.D.
25:07
SPEAKER_00: Wayne.
25:08
SPEAKER_00: Me and my boys are vitalists.
25:10
SPEAKER_01: We're vitalists, boys.
25:12
SPEAKER_01: We're going to go down and pick up in them BPD hoes, those vitalists.
25:20
SPEAKER_00: We're
25:21
SPEAKER_00: going to go get ourselves pegged by some BPD hoes.
25:25
SPEAKER_00: Let's go.
25:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
25:27
SPEAKER_01: Was Squidby that old?
25:28
SPEAKER_01: It wasn't that old, was it?
25:30
SPEAKER_01: I feel like, I don't know.
25:31
SPEAKER_01: Oh, to talk about being a sad, it wasn't an Adult Swim show, right?
25:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Adult Swim.
25:37
SPEAKER_00: That's right, Matt.
25:38
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
25:40
SPEAKER_01: There was a sad realization.
25:45
SPEAKER_01: It was my daughter's open house thing or whatever where we went
25:48
SPEAKER_01: and dropped off her stuff in her classroom and met her teacher.
25:52
SPEAKER_01: Of course, obviously, she has the same teacher because she's in elementary school.
25:56
SPEAKER_01: It was really nice and all the parents were there and blah, blah, blah.
25:59
SPEAKER_01: Her school's big.
26:01
SPEAKER_01: I was like, man, I don't think my elementary school ever did this.
26:06
SPEAKER_01: And my wife's like, I'm sure they did, Alex.
26:08
SPEAKER_01: Your parents probably just never took you.
26:10
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, oh, man.
26:15
SPEAKER_01: My parents didn't care.
26:18
SPEAKER_01: Damn.
26:19
SPEAKER_01: They just probably did.
26:20
SPEAKER_01: I just probably don't remember it.
26:21
SPEAKER_01: I was too busy playing Magic the Gathering or whatever.
26:26
SPEAKER_01: That's what's going to be vital to Squid Billy.
26:29
SPEAKER_01: That's what he looks like.
26:30
SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry, bro.
26:31
SPEAKER_01: He looks like a Squid Billy.
26:32
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
26:34
SPEAKER_01: Got to find a picture of it, man, somewhere and add it to this.
26:40
SPEAKER_01: My drink is running out.
26:42
SPEAKER_01: All right, so let's talk about, like, squid vitality.
26:45
SPEAKER_01: Squids are cool.
26:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a squid badly.
26:51
SPEAKER_01: All right, so things to talk about.
26:54
SPEAKER_00: Some questions.
26:55
SPEAKER_01: And then please, in the chat, please ask us anything else too.
26:59
SPEAKER_01: So in our very first ever ask us anything episode that we're doing, that's not our very first.
27:06
SPEAKER_01: I think we randomly talk about shit all the time.
27:09
SPEAKER_01: Actually, Asperger's asked, he said, what does your two read pile look like?
27:18
SPEAKER_01: And man, do you have a two read pile right now?
27:22
SPEAKER_00: I do actually, as this as the podcast began, I decided to straighten up my desk.
27:30
SPEAKER_00: And I have a read I've literally created to read file.
27:35
SPEAKER_00: At work, I left my copy of the second book of Revelation Space.
27:41
SPEAKER_00: So I'm going to finish that this year.
27:44
SPEAKER_00: I need to dig into my two volumes of family history.
27:47
SPEAKER_00: And I also need to I also need to buy the remaining volumes,
27:52
SPEAKER_00: The Blanks of America, The Redacteds of America.
27:55
SPEAKER_00: So I'm going to read that.
27:57
SPEAKER_00: I've got Tolkien's The Fall of Gondolin.
28:00
SPEAKER_00: I never actually read that when I was a child, so I'm going to check that out.
28:05
SPEAKER_00: I have The Brothers Karamazov here, which is in my to read file.
28:10
SPEAKER_00: The Silmarillion.
28:11
SPEAKER_00: I actually found this at our local library.
28:12
SPEAKER_00: I bought it for 50 cents.
28:14
SPEAKER_00: Nice hardcover copy.
28:16
SPEAKER_00: So I'm going to check that out.
28:17
SPEAKER_00: I read that back when I was in college.
28:19
SPEAKER_00: My patron, John, sent me a book called The Prize, The Epic Quest for Oil, Money and Power.
28:26
SPEAKER_00: This was a Pulitzer Prize winner from about 30 years ago, 20, 30 years ago.
28:30
SPEAKER_00: So I'm going to check that out.
28:32
SPEAKER_00: And then I also have Dale Carnegie,
28:34
SPEAKER_00: How to Win Friends and Influence People and How to Stop Worrying and Start Living.
28:37
SPEAKER_00: So this is something I meant to read over the summer, but it didn't happen because of reasons.
28:42
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, that's my truth.
28:43
SPEAKER_01: I read that one.
28:44
SPEAKER_01: I read that one a few years ago.
28:46
SPEAKER_01: Yes, I remember when I was moving and I was like,
28:48
SPEAKER_01: I really want to like be a nice person and like and all that stuff.
28:54
SPEAKER_01: And I read it and I realized I was an asshole.
28:57
SPEAKER_01: And one of the main things it tells you to do is to memorize people's names
29:01
SPEAKER_01: and always address people by their names.
29:03
SPEAKER_01: And I can't do that.
29:05
SPEAKER_01: I don't remember people's names.
29:07
SPEAKER_01: I don't remember people.
29:09
SPEAKER_01: People I spent time with,
29:10
SPEAKER_01: they just leave my life for a week and I forget that they ever existed.
29:14
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, oh yeah, who are you?
29:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
29:19
SPEAKER_00: Being a teacher has made that easier for me.
29:21
SPEAKER_00: Especially last year, I got a lot better at remembering names.
29:25
SPEAKER_00: You got to just have,
29:26
SPEAKER_00: you got to have your old standbys like,
29:27
SPEAKER_00: hey boss, hey guy, hey friend, how you doing buddy?
29:30
SPEAKER_00: How are things?
29:31
SPEAKER_00: You know, you just got to have those out there.
29:34
SPEAKER_01: I work in medicine and I see patients all day.
29:37
SPEAKER_01: And sometimes I'll see like,
29:38
SPEAKER_01: you know,
29:39
SPEAKER_01: a lot of patients over the years and people will be like,
29:41
SPEAKER_01: oh, remember when you saw me for this?
29:43
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, no dude, I don't.
29:44
SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry.
29:45
SPEAKER_01: Like, you all look the same.
29:46
SPEAKER_01: Everybody looks the same.
29:47
SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't know, fucking know who you are.
29:49
SPEAKER_01: I, you know.
29:51
SPEAKER_01: I've treated a million of the same exact thing.
29:54
SPEAKER_01: You know, like, how am I going to remember you?
29:55
SPEAKER_01: Like, whoa, like, crazy.
29:57
SPEAKER_01: Your name is, like, Steve or something.
29:59
SPEAKER_01: And now, like, everybody young has, like, retarded-ass names.
30:01
SPEAKER_01: Like, like,
30:05
SPEAKER_01: Zendaya and shit like that or whatever, you know?
30:08
SPEAKER_00: No, Sinequa, I do not remember.
30:10
SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, no.
30:11
SPEAKER_01: It's not even that.
30:13
SPEAKER_01: Sinequa is like an old name.
30:14
SPEAKER_01: That's like an old black name, right?
30:16
SPEAKER_01: But there's this really messed up trend, right?
30:18
SPEAKER_01: Where back in the 80s and 90s,
30:21
SPEAKER_01: black people would name their kids crazy stuff like Mercedes-Benz or whatever.
30:24
SPEAKER_01: Lexus.
30:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
30:28
SPEAKER_01: And then like, but then like Midwestern and like Southern white women got really jealous.
30:33
SPEAKER_01: So they decided to start naming their kids retarded stuff too.
30:36
SPEAKER_01: So now it's like, you got like, like, like, Genesis X or something like that.
30:43
SPEAKER_01: Like Michaela with the H and a G. Cadence.
30:47
SPEAKER_01: Cadela.
30:48
SPEAKER_01: Kylie Kendra.
30:51
SPEAKER_01: Kentara.
30:52
SPEAKER_01: Yes, Kentara.
30:54
SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes.
30:55
SPEAKER_01: The names are more and more retarded every day.
30:57
SPEAKER_01: My wife sent me one the other day of somebody she knows.
31:00
SPEAKER_01: I'm not going to say it just in case.
31:02
SPEAKER_01: I don't want to.
31:03
SPEAKER_01: But it was so dumb.
31:05
SPEAKER_01: It sounded like erectile dysfunction medication, something that Sanofi Pastor put out.
31:10
SPEAKER_01: I'm like,
31:11
SPEAKER_01: it's like, no, no,
31:13
SPEAKER_01: people, you're supposed to name your kids something that your grandma's named after.
31:18
SPEAKER_01: The way it works is the ideal way to do it is you go to ...
31:25
SPEAKER_01: What are some old lady sounding names?
31:27
SPEAKER_01: Okay, like Ruth, right?
31:28
SPEAKER_01: Margaret.
31:29
SPEAKER_01: Margaret.
31:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
31:31
SPEAKER_01: Like you go to that generation and then you like go a little bit before that.
31:36
SPEAKER_01: Right.
31:36
SPEAKER_01: So like if Ruth sounds old, you go to the generation before Ruth.
31:41
SPEAKER_01: Right.
31:42
SPEAKER_01: And then you get like cool names.
31:43
SPEAKER_01: Like I actually, I actually, there is a girl that works in my work and her name is Margo.
31:48
SPEAKER_01: And actually that's a good name.
31:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
31:51
SPEAKER_01: That's a good one.
31:51
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
31:52
SPEAKER_01: That's a good one.
31:53
SPEAKER_01: Right.
31:53
SPEAKER_01: It's like, it's really unique.
31:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
31:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
31:56
SPEAKER_01: Right.
31:58
SPEAKER_01: Right.
31:58
SPEAKER_01: So it's like, it's old.
32:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
32:01
SPEAKER_00: When it comes to names,
32:03
SPEAKER_00: I'm a huge fan of making sure that you clearly think through all of
32:08
SPEAKER_00: the potential nicknames and all of the potential insults.
32:14
SPEAKER_00: Hopefully this will be the year that I become a father.
32:17
SPEAKER_00: And we've had plenty of time to really, really, really dial that in.
32:23
SPEAKER_00: And, you know,
32:24
SPEAKER_00: with the sheer amount of insult comedy that I get into,
32:28
SPEAKER_00: I go straight for the juggler on every single name idea.
32:31
SPEAKER_00: Just even if it's like remotely,
32:33
SPEAKER_00: you have to something like, you got to think through the acronyms.
32:38
SPEAKER_00: You got to think through like, just all of it.
32:41
SPEAKER_00: Because because I mean, my real name is not that silly.
32:45
SPEAKER_00: But there's a couple parts of my real name where it's like,
32:47
SPEAKER_00: fuck, Like, I've had to hear that shit all my fucking life.
32:51
SPEAKER_00: It's fine.
32:52
SPEAKER_00: Like, it's funny.
32:52
SPEAKER_00: You know, it's fine.
32:53
SPEAKER_00: But, you know, it's just, you gotta give your due diligence.
32:58
SPEAKER_00: You gotta have your due diligence.
32:59
SPEAKER_00: Otherwise, what the hell are you doing?
33:02
SPEAKER_01: See, my name, if you're Romanian, my name's, like, really common.
33:05
SPEAKER_01: Alexandru Constantin.
33:07
SPEAKER_01: Constantin's my middle name.
33:09
SPEAKER_01: It's just, like, it's, you know...
33:13
SPEAKER_01: Whatever.
33:14
SPEAKER_01: It's like John Smith, basically.
33:18
SPEAKER_01: Everybody's named Constantine.
33:20
SPEAKER_01: Everybody's named Alexandru.
33:21
SPEAKER_01: It's a very popular name, at least in my generation in Romania.
33:26
SPEAKER_01: But it just sounds like it's unique in the States because it's spelled different.
33:32
SPEAKER_01: But it's really just Alexandru.
33:34
SPEAKER_01: I don't think anybody's ever called me like, hey, Alexandru.
33:36
SPEAKER_01: No, nobody ever calls me that except people online and stuff.
33:40
SPEAKER_01: Everybody calls me Alex.
33:42
SPEAKER_01: My entire family always called me Alex.
33:44
SPEAKER_01: I've always been just Alex my entire life.
33:49
SPEAKER_01: It's easy.
33:51
SPEAKER_01: My daughter has a pretty unique kind of hippie-ish name,
33:56
SPEAKER_01: but then she has a normal middle name, so it kind of like evens out.
34:00
SPEAKER_01: I'm really sick of the Aiden names, like Aiden, Caden,
34:07
SPEAKER_00: Jaden, Caden, Maiden.
34:10
SPEAKER_01: Those need to go away.
34:11
SPEAKER_01: You have to be Irish.
34:13
SPEAKER_01: That's an Irish thing.
34:15
SPEAKER_01: I don't like it.
34:17
SPEAKER_01: I don't like it when people take names that don't belong to their culture.
34:20
SPEAKER_00: I guess I could have named my daughter Jaden because my wife is Irish-ish.
34:26
SPEAKER_00: You can get away with that.
34:28
SPEAKER_00: Right.
34:29
SPEAKER_00: All right.
34:30
SPEAKER_01: So let me tell you about my book.
34:31
SPEAKER_01: Oh, go ahead.
34:32
SPEAKER_01: One more thought.
34:32
SPEAKER_00: One more thought.
34:34
SPEAKER_00: With my pen name,
34:35
SPEAKER_00: one thing that's been nice is when I decided to really start like leaning into
34:39
SPEAKER_00: the whole Fisto thing,
34:42
SPEAKER_00: one of my favorite things is when people are like, oh, fisted.
34:44
SPEAKER_00: And then I just look straight in the eye and I'm like, yep.
34:48
SPEAKER_00: Just know you.
34:50
SPEAKER_00: Reverse Uno.
34:51
SPEAKER_01: It's from He-Man, bro.
34:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
34:53
SPEAKER_00: And now it's more awkward for you because I'm totally into this.
34:56
SPEAKER_00: Like joke's on you.
34:56
SPEAKER_00: I'm into that shit.
35:01
SPEAKER_00: And then it's He-Man.
35:01
SPEAKER_00: It's like, why are you mocking He-Man?
35:04
SPEAKER_00: Also, it's the sex robot in New Vegas.
35:07
SPEAKER_00: I mean, what's not to love about that?
35:09
SPEAKER_00: Assume the position.
35:11
SPEAKER_00: Assume the position.
35:13
SPEAKER_00: I am programmed
35:18
SPEAKER_01: to shitpost.
35:18
SPEAKER_01: I don't have a pen name.
35:20
SPEAKER_01: My real name is my pen name.
35:22
SPEAKER_01: I always like it in people that always go on Substack or whatever and they're trying
35:26
SPEAKER_01: to argue.
35:27
SPEAKER_01: They're like, what do you hide behind a fake picture?
35:29
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, that's actually literally my picture.
35:33
SPEAKER_01: It's me.
35:34
SPEAKER_01: And that's my name.
35:36
SPEAKER_00: And it's always, like we were saying, it's always the John Smith.
35:40
SPEAKER_00: Two subscribers.
35:42
SPEAKER_00: Like, bitch, Google me, and I am more real than you are.
35:45
SPEAKER_00: I am more real than you are.
35:47
SPEAKER_01: That's actually, like, my picture, and it's actually my name.
35:51
SPEAKER_01: Like, are you retarded?
35:52
SPEAKER_01: Anyways.
35:53
SPEAKER_00: Zero posts, no comments.
35:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
35:57
SPEAKER_01: We don't owe engagement to that, to be honest.
36:00
SPEAKER_01: Right?
36:00
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
36:01
SPEAKER_01: That's the thing.
36:02
SPEAKER_01: Like, listen, like, this is, like, I'm okay with anonymous people, right?
36:08
SPEAKER_01: But if you're anonymous, you have to have a body of work that you stand behind.
36:13
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
36:17
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, you're an anonymous writer, Fisto, right?
36:20
SPEAKER_01: Right.
36:21
SPEAKER_01: But you have a body of work,
36:22
SPEAKER_01: whether it's a podcast and there's something substantial about you.
36:28
SPEAKER_01: You're not just like some random no-name PFP.
36:33
SPEAKER_01: I don't owe you that engagement, motherfucker.
36:36
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
36:40
SPEAKER_00: I don't.
36:42
SPEAKER_00: Anonymous is not the void.
36:45
SPEAKER_00: Anonymous is not the void.
36:46
SPEAKER_01: You know, like To quote my favorite movie, The Great Beauty, right?
36:53
SPEAKER_01: I'm too old.
36:54
SPEAKER_01: I just don't want to do things I don't want to do anymore.
36:57
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
36:58
SPEAKER_00: We don't want to fucking odds anymore.
37:00
SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to sit here and debate.
37:03
SPEAKER_01: I'm not going to debate Wikipedia shit.
37:06
SPEAKER_01: This is stupid.
37:08
SPEAKER_01: If your entire worldview is like you stringing together Wikipedia articles,
37:13
SPEAKER_01: it's just not interesting, bro.
37:14
SPEAKER_01: I just don't care.
37:15
SPEAKER_01: You had to...
37:19
SPEAKER_00: I'm just gonna say it's smart.
37:20
SPEAKER_00: It's smart.
37:21
SPEAKER_00: Like, I think with religion, I'm having to discuss religion.
37:24
SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna debate religion.
37:26
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna try to explain to you the best I can, what I think the nature of reality is.
37:30
SPEAKER_00: I'm not debating it.
37:31
SPEAKER_00: There's no like proving it.
37:33
SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, no, no.
37:33
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna try to explain to you what I think, and why I think it.
37:37
SPEAKER_00: But at the end of the day, it's true.
37:42
SPEAKER_00: And that's a you problem, not a me problem.
37:44
SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
37:46
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
37:46
SPEAKER_01: So I'm going to answer Asperger's my to read pile.
37:49
SPEAKER_01: So are you ready for this?
37:51
SPEAKER_00: This is good.
37:51
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
37:52
SPEAKER_01: We're going to do something fun.
37:53
SPEAKER_01: So I hope you guys have your video on live because I'm going to actually show you my
37:56
SPEAKER_01: to read pile.
37:57
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
37:58
SPEAKER_01: So I have 41 fiction books in my to read pile and 47 nonfiction books, right?
38:05
SPEAKER_01: I'm just deleting
38:06
SPEAKER_00: my account.
38:06
SPEAKER_00: I'm just, I'm logging off.
38:08
SPEAKER_01: I'm currently, I'm currently reading, uh,
38:13
SPEAKER_01: 1Q84 by Murakami.
38:15
SPEAKER_01: It's kind of a play on 1984.
38:18
SPEAKER_01: But let me show you guys, see if this works.
38:21
SPEAKER_01: We'll do this.
38:21
SPEAKER_01: We'll share my screen.
38:22
SPEAKER_01: All right.
38:23
SPEAKER_01: Do you guys see this?
38:25
SPEAKER_01: Let's see.
38:26
SPEAKER_01: It should show up.
38:27
SPEAKER_01: Tell me if you start seeing it.
38:30
SPEAKER_01: All right.
38:30
SPEAKER_01: I'm looking.
38:31
SPEAKER_01: So it should show up in a second now.
38:36
SPEAKER_00: You don't hear any music, do you, by chance, right?
38:39
SPEAKER_00: No, I don't hear anything.
38:40
SPEAKER_00: All right, cool.
38:40
SPEAKER_00: I'm actually playing my bass as we talk here.
38:45
SPEAKER_01: I hear the strings playing.
38:47
SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
38:48
SPEAKER_00: I'll try to keep that down.
38:49
SPEAKER_01: Do you guys see the stuff yet?
38:51
SPEAKER_01: Let me see.
38:52
SPEAKER_01: You see the screen?
38:53
SPEAKER_01: I'm doing the sharing of the screen.
38:56
SPEAKER_01: Let's see if that shows up.
38:57
SPEAKER_00: Sharing of the screen.
38:58
SPEAKER_00: Welcome new people.
38:59
SPEAKER_00: Welcome new people.
39:00
SPEAKER_00: We're up to 20 people in chat.
39:02
SPEAKER_00: If you guys could please spam Substack and let them know that they need to get
39:05
SPEAKER_00: in chat and ask us things.
39:07
SPEAKER_00: I see some new faces, some people I've not seen before.
39:10
SPEAKER_00: It's always fun.
39:10
SPEAKER_00: It's always fun.
39:12
SPEAKER_00: We're in a great mood.
39:13
SPEAKER_00: We're in a great mood tonight.
39:18
SPEAKER_00: While you're doing that, while you're doing that, we'll do some shout outs here.
39:22
SPEAKER_00: Colton, always a pleasure to see you.
39:24
SPEAKER_00: Brian, I feel like it's been a while, man.
39:26
SPEAKER_00: Hope you're well.
39:28
SPEAKER_00: Lincoln, always a nice, always great.
39:31
SPEAKER_01: Here we go.
39:32
SPEAKER_01: Here we go.
39:32
SPEAKER_01: Anyways.
39:33
SPEAKER_00: I'll just go
39:35
SPEAKER_01: through it.
39:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
39:36
SPEAKER_00: I'll just go through it.
39:37
SPEAKER_01: All right.
39:38
SPEAKER_01: So I have about 605 books in my Kindle right now.
39:42
SPEAKER_01: Um, but I'm obviously not reading all of them.
39:45
SPEAKER_01: I read most of them already.
39:46
SPEAKER_01: Um, but I've got 40, I have,
39:48
SPEAKER_01: I made two folders for this year, my to read fiction and my to read nonfiction.
39:52
SPEAKER_01: Right.
39:53
SPEAKER_01: And so I'm reading, I'm reading one Q84 by Murakami.
39:57
SPEAKER_01: I love Murakami.
39:58
SPEAKER_01: I know like, uh,
39:59
SPEAKER_01: people don't like,
40:00
SPEAKER_01: some people don't like it if,
40:02
SPEAKER_01: but I, Murakami is one of my favorite Japanese writers.
40:05
SPEAKER_01: Um, What else am I reading?
40:06
SPEAKER_01: I got Under the Volcano by Malcolm Lowry.
40:08
SPEAKER_01: It's a book about a guy that basically drinks himself to death in Mexico.
40:12
SPEAKER_01: I got Brad Kelly's book, which is fantastic.
40:15
SPEAKER_01: I actually finished.
40:16
SPEAKER_01: I need to take it off that list.
40:18
SPEAKER_01: The new edition, the new translation of The Brothers Karamazov, which I want to go and read.
40:24
SPEAKER_01: I've read Brothers Karamazov multiple times already.
40:27
SPEAKER_01: I have the latest Murakami, which is The City and Its Uncertain Walls.
40:32
SPEAKER_01: But I was going to read that.
40:33
SPEAKER_01: But then I was like, no, I should read 1Q84 because it's kind of like his big masterpiece.
40:40
SPEAKER_01: And I should read that before I go into his latest book.
40:44
SPEAKER_01: Shadow Ticket by Thomas Pynchon.
40:46
SPEAKER_01: I don't like it all.
40:47
SPEAKER_01: So I kind of like put it aside.
40:49
SPEAKER_01: But look at all these books, man.
40:50
SPEAKER_01: I guess I've got Brideshead Revisited that I want to read this year by Evelyn Wall,
40:55
SPEAKER_01: which I haven't read yet.
40:57
SPEAKER_01: I got The Magic Mountain,
40:58
SPEAKER_01: which I started reading,
40:59
SPEAKER_01: got like halfway through it, and I was like, I need to put this aside.
41:02
SPEAKER_01: I wasn't in the mood for it.
41:03
SPEAKER_01: And that's a Thomas Mann book.
41:06
SPEAKER_01: Talking about Thomas Mann,
41:07
SPEAKER_01: I've got Michael Mann, no relation, because one's the director and the other one.
41:11
SPEAKER_01: And I have Heat 2, which they're actually making into a movie, finally.
41:16
SPEAKER_01: I might read Infinite Jest, you know, by David Foster Wallace.
41:24
SPEAKER_01: What else do I want to read this year?
41:26
SPEAKER_01: But I think right now my two-read pile,
41:28
SPEAKER_01: like my actual,
41:29
SPEAKER_01: like what I'm going to go, like,
41:34
SPEAKER_01: you know, actually read is I'm going to go, I'm going to finish 1Q84 by Murakami.
41:39
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to read Brett Easton-El's The Shards.
41:42
SPEAKER_01: The Shards is his latest book.
41:44
SPEAKER_01: I actually listened to the whole book.
41:47
SPEAKER_01: As in podcast, he did it like on a weekly podcast before he actually came out as a book.
41:52
SPEAKER_01: And I just haven't read the book version of it.
41:55
SPEAKER_01: And I think I'm going to go into Brideshead Revisited and then Under the Volcano.
41:59
SPEAKER_01: I'm also thinking of doing a reread of Neuromancer.
42:01
SPEAKER_01: Oh, dude, I was just looking at that on
42:03
SPEAKER_00: my shelf.
42:05
SPEAKER_00: Crap, I'm going to have to do that now.
42:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm thinking of doing a reread.
42:08
SPEAKER_01: And I might just reread Neuromancer and then go on to the other sprawl trilogy stuff.
42:15
SPEAKER_01: So I might do that.
42:17
SPEAKER_01: I have a bunch of books in my nonfiction pileup, man.
42:20
SPEAKER_01: Like, dude, I've got like Weimar Germany, Promising Tragedy.
42:24
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if that's any good.
42:26
SPEAKER_01: I've got the biography of Aleister Crowley that I want to read.
42:31
SPEAKER_01: That has like his, you know, I got a bunch of.
42:38
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I got Understanding Media at school.
42:40
SPEAKER_00: I got to finally finish that this year.
42:42
SPEAKER_01: I picked up this book called The Prince of Darkness.
42:48
SPEAKER_01: It's called The Prince of Darkness, Radical Evil, and the Power of Good in History.
42:53
SPEAKER_01: It's about the history of Satan, basically, and the perception of Satan.
42:57
SPEAKER_01: Huh.
42:59
SPEAKER_00: What else do we got around here?
43:01
SPEAKER_01: Most of this stuff I already read.
43:04
SPEAKER_00: Oh, one book that I grabbed that I'm going to throw in the pile is Shagduk.
43:08
SPEAKER_00: I never read that.
43:09
SPEAKER_01: Oh, Shagduk is great.
43:10
SPEAKER_01: Shagduk is great.
43:13
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
43:13
SPEAKER_01: I'm surprised you haven't read that one because it is right up your...
43:17
SPEAKER_00: I suck, so that's why I haven't read it.
43:22
SPEAKER_01: The type of humor in it is exactly the kind of stuff you appreciate.
43:25
SPEAKER_01: I bought Franz Kafka's Diaries, which is like his diaries, which I started reading.
43:32
SPEAKER_00: Actually,
43:33
SPEAKER_00: if you do Franz Kafka's Diaries,
43:36
SPEAKER_00: Metamorphosis has become one of the stories that we read during the school year.
43:42
SPEAKER_00: If there's anything particularly good in the diaries, I'll absolutely teach you in class.
43:47
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
43:47
SPEAKER_01: I'm actually, I'm like randomly opening it right now.
43:49
SPEAKER_01: I'm opening it.
43:50
SPEAKER_01: Oh, nice.
43:51
SPEAKER_01: And I'm going to pick a random spot because like his stuff is pretty insane.
43:55
SPEAKER_01: Let's see what we got here.
43:57
SPEAKER_00: Hey, sir.
43:58
SPEAKER_00: Why are we reading this?
43:59
SPEAKER_00: We divined it on my podcast.
44:02
SPEAKER_00: We cast lots on my podcast and decided we would read this this year.
44:07
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
44:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
44:09
SPEAKER_00: Let's see.
44:09
SPEAKER_00: This is.
44:16
SPEAKER_00: I can't wait to tell coworkers that when I say that my method includes divine madness.
44:20
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's just my podcast.
44:22
SPEAKER_00: It's just my podcast.
44:23
SPEAKER_01: They just meet a bunch of assholes on the internet.
44:25
SPEAKER_01: The seventh notebook.
44:28
SPEAKER_01: Oh, no.
44:29
SPEAKER_00: The seventh.
44:30
SPEAKER_00: Oh, no.
44:30
SPEAKER_00: Seven.
44:31
SPEAKER_00: Oh, no.
44:32
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
44:33
SPEAKER_01: It looks like the 12th of – I want to know what that means.
44:39
SPEAKER_01: 12th of February, 1913.
44:41
SPEAKER_01: Oh, no.
44:42
SPEAKER_01: During the description of a friend in a foreign land, I often thought of Stewart.
44:47
SPEAKER_01: Now, when I met him by chance about three months after this story,
44:49
SPEAKER_01: he told me he had become engaged about three months ago.
44:53
SPEAKER_01: After I read the story yesterday at Welch's,
44:55
SPEAKER_01: Welch's father went out,
44:56
SPEAKER_01: and when he returned after a little while,
44:57
SPEAKER_01: praised especially the visual description in the story.
45:00
SPEAKER_01: With an outstretched hand,
45:02
SPEAKER_01: he said,
45:03
SPEAKER_01: I see this father in front of me,
45:04
SPEAKER_01: and at the same time he was looking exquisitely at the empty chair in
45:08
SPEAKER_01: which he had been sitting during the reading.
45:09
SPEAKER_01: My sister said, It's our apartment.
45:11
SPEAKER_01: I was astonished at how she misunderstood the setting and said,
45:15
SPEAKER_01: Then the father would have to be living in the water closet.
45:20
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
45:21
SPEAKER_01: Well, that's the 12th of February in 1913.
45:29
SPEAKER_00: That's the whole entry?
45:30
SPEAKER_01: That's the whole entry.
45:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
45:33
SPEAKER_00: So after we're done with the book and Gregor dies and everybody is liberated
45:38
SPEAKER_00: from his influence, I'll present that to the class and say, see?
45:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
45:45
SPEAKER_01: Let me go to his last- Let me go to his last, his last stuff.
45:49
SPEAKER_01: Oh, no.
45:50
SPEAKER_01: His 12th notebook.
45:53
Oh, boy.
45:55
SPEAKER_01: The fragile, moody, negligible being.
45:57
SPEAKER_01: A telegram flings it down.
45:59
SPEAKER_01: A letter helps it up.
46:00
SPEAKER_01: Revives it.
46:01
SPEAKER_01: The silence after the letter dulls.
46:03
SPEAKER_01: The cat's playing with the goats.
46:05
SPEAKER_01: The goats resemble Polish Jews.
46:07
SPEAKER_01: Uncle Siegfried, Ernst Weiss, Irma.
46:10
SPEAKER_01: Oh, no.
46:12
SPEAKER_01: One Week in Zero.
46:16
SPEAKER_01: I changed my mind.
46:17
SPEAKER_00: I changed my mind.
46:17
SPEAKER_00: We're going to do that other one first,
46:19
SPEAKER_00: then read Metamorphosis,
46:20
SPEAKER_00: and then end with the very last one and be like,
46:22
SPEAKER_00: see, it all makes sense, right, guys?
46:24
SPEAKER_01: The goats resemble Jews.
46:26
SPEAKER_00: Oh, no.
46:29
SPEAKER_01: That'll be great because they're going to have to
46:30
SPEAKER_00: read, like,
46:31
SPEAKER_00: they're going to have to read some Holocaust shit this year in,
46:34
SPEAKER_00: like, their other classes, and then just randomly in mind, the goats resemble Jews.
46:39
SPEAKER_01: Oh, there's drawings in here, too.
46:42
SPEAKER_00: Oh, even better.
46:43
SPEAKER_01: It's a...
46:45
SPEAKER_01: He's got a drawing of a roulette table, and he's got this whole post.
46:48
SPEAKER_01: I said post, but I guess that's what it is.
46:51
SPEAKER_01: This guy would have been a banger on Substack.
46:54
SPEAKER_01: He'd be cockroach posting.
46:55
SPEAKER_01: Okay, that's enough of that.
46:56
SPEAKER_00: That's insane.
46:57
SPEAKER_00: You should just start posting Kafka's diaries unattributed and just see what happens.
47:02
SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
47:03
SPEAKER_01: Just random Kafka's diaries stuff.
47:06
SPEAKER_00: Oh, man.
47:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this constantly guy, he's the next Bukowski.
47:14
SPEAKER_00: Start swirling Lisa live with it.
47:17
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if I have the energy to read 900 pages of this dude's diaries.
47:23
SPEAKER_01: I'm not even a huge Kafka fan.
47:26
SPEAKER_01: I don't know why I bought it.
47:28
SPEAKER_01: I have these moods.
47:31
SPEAKER_00: Do you just give it to me when you're done?
47:34
SPEAKER_01: It's a Kindle file.
47:36
SPEAKER_01: I'm just a
47:39
SPEAKER_00: Kindle file buyer.
47:39
SPEAKER_00: I think I'll put that in my classroom library this year.
47:42
SPEAKER_00: I'll get that in my library.
47:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, it's new.
47:48
SPEAKER_01: It came out a few years.
47:49
SPEAKER_01: I remember why I bought it.
47:50
SPEAKER_01: You know what?
47:51
SPEAKER_01: I was listening to Art of Darkness, and they were talking about it.
47:55
SPEAKER_01: And whenever I listen to Art of Darkness,
48:00
SPEAKER_01: I always buy all the books that they talk about because I'm an addict.
48:05
SPEAKER_01: What's your favorite liqueur?
48:06
SPEAKER_01: That was a question in the chat.
48:10
SPEAKER_00: Favorite liqueur?
48:12
SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm a Pled, so the only one that I've ever really had is 43.
48:17
SPEAKER_00: So I guess that one's my favorite.
48:19
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it says liqueur on the bottle.
48:21
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, I mean.
48:26
SPEAKER_01: I mean, depends.
48:28
SPEAKER_01: Depends on mood I'm in, to be honest.
48:30
SPEAKER_01: Depends on the mood I'm in.
48:32
SPEAKER_00: You have liqueurs for moods and I'm over here like, it says it on the bottle.
48:35
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yes, yes.
48:36
SPEAKER_01: I have drinks.
48:38
SPEAKER_01: I have drinks for moods, okay?
48:40
SPEAKER_00: Oh, God.
48:41
SPEAKER_01: Like, for example, okay, listen, man, okay?
48:49
SPEAKER_01: For example, right,
48:54
SPEAKER_01: in the summer, for example, I am a fan of drinking gin, right?
49:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, sure.
49:01
SPEAKER_01: I like gin, I like gin and tonics, right?
49:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
49:05
SPEAKER_01: If I feel like really fancy I'll make like a fancy gin gin
49:08
SPEAKER_01: and tonic right I enjoy like uh there's there's
49:13
SPEAKER_01: a like different like like infused kind of gins like more fancy ones
49:16
SPEAKER_01: that you can buy yeah and I enjoy those like sometimes with cucumbers
49:20
SPEAKER_01: and maybe some blueberries mold in there you know just trying to get all crazy
49:23
SPEAKER_01: but just the gin and tonic is like you know in a lot of my travels to
49:28
SPEAKER_01: the south pacific gin and tonic was the way I just felt like east india company vibe
49:32
SPEAKER_01: in the whole time And a lot
49:34
SPEAKER_01: of these places were like actual East India Company places.
49:38
SPEAKER_01: And you can buy Bombay Sapphire everywhere.
49:41
SPEAKER_01: And it's usually cheap.
49:42
SPEAKER_01: And you can get like a $3 gin and tonic and just pound them.
49:45
SPEAKER_01: I could drink like 12, 15 of them and not get slizzered too bad, right?
49:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
49:53
SPEAKER_01: In the winter...
49:55
SPEAKER_01: And by the way,
49:56
SPEAKER_01: we're talking about mixed cocktails now,
49:58
SPEAKER_01: but I know the question was what liqueur and liqueur is not what I'm talking
50:02
SPEAKER_01: about right now.
50:02
SPEAKER_01: We're talking about just mixed drinks, right?
50:05
SPEAKER_01: I do enjoy a white Russian, like the white Russian is kind of like my Christmas drink.
50:10
SPEAKER_01: It's my Christmas drink, right?
50:13
SPEAKER_01: And I used to get it, like, we used to, friends and I used to throw a New Year's party.
50:18
SPEAKER_01: It was my favorite party of the year, right?
50:19
SPEAKER_01: And I would get all the stuff to make white Russians.
50:22
SPEAKER_01: We used to throw, like,
50:23
SPEAKER_01: a Big Lebowski party where, like,
50:25
SPEAKER_01: everybody would wear, like,
50:26
SPEAKER_01: you know,
50:26
SPEAKER_01: like, bathrobes and stuff, you know, and dress, like, in costumes from Big Lebowski.
50:31
SPEAKER_01: And I would get a Grey Goose and some...
50:36
SPEAKER_01: I would get actually Grey Goose.
50:38
SPEAKER_01: What is it?
50:40
SPEAKER_01: Kahlua.
50:41
SPEAKER_01: And you're supposed to kind of like drink it with like...
50:46
SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
50:46
SPEAKER_01: Nice.
51:09
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if somebody told me that.
51:10
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what it's called, but that's a good one.
51:13
SPEAKER_01: Also, you can drink...
51:16
SPEAKER_01: So Kahlua is a liqueur, right?
51:19
SPEAKER_01: And so it's a coffee liqueur, right?
51:21
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I guess Kahlua is one of my favorite liqueurs, right?
51:26
SPEAKER_01: I also enjoy...
51:30
SPEAKER_01: I like eggnog, right?
51:31
SPEAKER_01: So like eggnog and like vodka,
51:33
SPEAKER_01: for example,
51:34
SPEAKER_01: or eggnog and brandy are tend to be,
51:36
SPEAKER_01: tends to be really good for like around, but once again, it's a winter drink.
51:41
SPEAKER_01: I'm not a huge whiskey or bourbon guy.
51:44
SPEAKER_01: My wife likes bourbon a lot.
51:46
SPEAKER_01: She likes whiskey and she likes like old fashions.
51:49
SPEAKER_01: Like old fashions are like the drinks she like.
51:51
SPEAKER_01: Whenever we go to a nice bar, she goes for the old fashioned.
51:54
SPEAKER_01: And I, you know, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, Not like a whiskey guy, right?
52:02
SPEAKER_01: Another drink I enjoy,
52:04
SPEAKER_01: when you used to go to like clubbing in like Los Angeles and stuff,
52:07
SPEAKER_01: you used to have to get,
52:08
SPEAKER_01: when you go clubbing with like a girl when you're like 20,
52:10
SPEAKER_01: 21 or whatever,
52:11
SPEAKER_01: and you really can't like afford a bunch of drinks and stuff because you're like
52:14
SPEAKER_01: a bum, or for yourself, right?
52:16
SPEAKER_01: You get what's called the Rufi Kalade, right?
52:21
SPEAKER_01: And a roofie colada is just like a drink that has like a lot of booze in it
52:25
SPEAKER_01: and it'll get you effed up, you know?
52:27
SPEAKER_01: Right.
52:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
52:28
SPEAKER_00: It's in the name.
52:29
SPEAKER_00: It's in the name.
52:30
SPEAKER_01: But you know,
52:31
SPEAKER_01: you don't get,
52:31
SPEAKER_01: they're not like the drink itself is not a roofie colada,
52:33
SPEAKER_01: but it's a roofie colada is like a,
52:36
SPEAKER_01: like a subtype of drink is what we used to call it.
52:39
SPEAKER_01: Right.
52:39
SPEAKER_01: So a good example of a roofie colada is a Long Island iced tea.
52:43
SPEAKER_01: Right.
52:44
SPEAKER_01: Because it's got like four shots of losing.
52:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was about to share that I have a particular weakness for Long Island iced teas.
52:52
SPEAKER_00: And now that I know it's a Rufi Kolata.
52:55
SPEAKER_01: Right.
52:55
SPEAKER_01: Because I mean, it's a great drink to buy at a club because it's like, okay, cool.
53:01
SPEAKER_01: It's like $10, but I think drinks are like $30 now a pop, whatever crazy price they are.
53:06
SPEAKER_01: But it's an expensive drink, but it's the price of a cocktail.
53:10
SPEAKER_01: But it's got like four shots of booze in it,
53:12
SPEAKER_01: you know,
53:13
SPEAKER_01: like for the same price,
53:15
SPEAKER_01: you know,
53:16
SPEAKER_01: you get like I used to like my drink of choice when I was younger
53:19
SPEAKER_01: and bar hopping was Greyhounds, right?
53:22
SPEAKER_01: And a Greyhound is vodka, grapefruit juice and salt on the rim, right?
53:28
SPEAKER_01: And or it's called the Greyhound or a salty dog, right?
53:31
SPEAKER_01: And my wife pointed out that those taste like barf.
53:35
SPEAKER_01: And I said, well,
53:37
SPEAKER_01: that's exactly why you get them because they taste the same way going in
53:41
SPEAKER_01: and going out.
53:42
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
53:43
SPEAKER_00: That's a very efficient drink.
53:48
SPEAKER_01: It's got that acidic grapefruit taste.
53:52
SPEAKER_01: I used to like Greyhounds.
53:54
SPEAKER_01: Some bars make it with ruby red grapefruit juice.
53:56
SPEAKER_01: I don't like that.
53:58
SPEAKER_01: Give me that...
54:00
SPEAKER_01: Give me that disgusting, you know, like, bile.
54:03
SPEAKER_01: You know, like, my wife hates her.
54:04
SPEAKER_01: She says, like, you should drink bile is, like, what she says.
54:08
SPEAKER_00: It's called planning ahead, darling.
54:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
54:10
SPEAKER_00: Planning ahead.
54:11
SPEAKER_01: She's just not aristocratic enough or something.
54:13
SPEAKER_00: I was just about to say, is this aristocracy?
54:16
SPEAKER_01: Right.
54:17
SPEAKER_01: Is this vitalism?
54:18
SPEAKER_01: So there's a variation of a Long Island iced tea called the Tokyo tea, right?
54:24
SPEAKER_00: The Tokyo tea?
54:26
SPEAKER_01: It replaces the cola, like the Coke you put in Long Island iced tea.
54:30
SPEAKER_01: It replaces it with Midori, right?
54:34
SPEAKER_01: And Midori is like melon, like cantaloupe melon liquor.
54:39
SPEAKER_01: It's a Japanese liquor.
54:41
SPEAKER_01: It's like neon green, and it's actually pretty disgusting.
54:44
SPEAKER_01: You can't just drink it on its own.
54:46
SPEAKER_01: It's like a mixer.
54:48
SPEAKER_01: I guess you can,
54:50
SPEAKER_01: but I had a girlfriend that liked Tokyo teas,
54:52
SPEAKER_01: but she also got Midori Sours,
54:56
SPEAKER_01: which tastes like those Apple Jolly Ranchers kind of like dipped in like salt,
55:03
SPEAKER_01: you know, this is pretty gross.
55:04
SPEAKER_01: You can only drink like two of them before you,
55:06
SPEAKER_01: like those things,
55:07
SPEAKER_01: if you barf those,
55:07
SPEAKER_01: those do not feel good coming out the back end,
55:10
SPEAKER_01: you know,
55:10
SPEAKER_01: like the, you know, um, There's also Amaretto, which is another liqueur I like.
55:16
SPEAKER_01: And Amaretto is like, I don't know, it's made of almond, I think.
55:20
SPEAKER_01: Like almond pit liquor or something, right?
55:23
SPEAKER_01: It's like peach pit or apricot or something.
55:26
SPEAKER_01: I think it's almond.
55:27
SPEAKER_01: I think it's almond liquor.
55:28
SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't know, it's like booze soaked in almond.
55:32
SPEAKER_01: It's probably got cyanide in it or something.
55:35
SPEAKER_01: But Amaretto is pretty good.
55:37
SPEAKER_01: You can make Amaretto sours.
55:39
SPEAKER_01: It tastes like almond.
55:41
SPEAKER_01: It's almond.
55:42
SPEAKER_01: I'm not...
55:43
SPEAKER_01: I'm remembering correctly.
55:44
SPEAKER_01: There's also, I don't know if you guys ever had port wine.
55:48
SPEAKER_01: It can only be from Portugal, right?
55:49
SPEAKER_01: That's what it's called, port wine.
55:52
SPEAKER_01: It's actually pretty disgusting.
55:53
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if people like it, but that was a big thing when I was in Timor-Leste.
55:57
SPEAKER_01: A lot of the people there liked port wine.
56:00
SPEAKER_01: And it's like fortified wine, and it's horrible.
56:05
SPEAKER_01: Let me see what else is there.
56:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, see, I was right.
56:08
SPEAKER_01: Lincoln E. Miller said it's made of peach pits and almonds.
56:11
SPEAKER_01: I knew it was made out of something like that, something cyanide-y like that.
56:15
SPEAKER_01: I liked it.
56:16
SPEAKER_01: It's just one of those things where it's too sweet.
56:19
SPEAKER_01: It's just really a sweet drink.
56:23
SPEAKER_01: So that's, I guess it's probably my favorite liquor, Amaretto, Midori, Kahlua.
56:28
SPEAKER_01: Kahlua is my favorite drink.
56:29
SPEAKER_01: I also, you know, sometimes in the summer, I'm getting, I get very Caribbean minded, you know.
56:35
SPEAKER_01: So I will get, I'll make like pineapple, you know, pineapple rum stuff.
56:42
SPEAKER_01: I do enjoy a good old pineapple drink.
56:43
SPEAKER_01: That's a good drink you can,
56:45
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I can drink like 30 like pineapple rums, you know, pineapple juice.
56:49
SPEAKER_00: I'm feeling very piratey now.
56:51
SPEAKER_00: I feel like.
56:52
SPEAKER_00: Huh?
56:53
SPEAKER_00: I'm feeling very piratey now with you talking about- Right, right.
56:57
SPEAKER_01: And there's a liqueur, right?
57:01
SPEAKER_01: It's a liqueur called Curacao, right?
57:04
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if anybody heard of it.
57:05
SPEAKER_01: And you can get this thing called Blue Curacao.
57:08
SPEAKER_01: And it is a, some kind of like a, it's like made out of like orange peel.
57:12
SPEAKER_01: It's an orange peel liquor.
57:14
SPEAKER_01: And it makes blue Hawaiians.
57:17
SPEAKER_01: And they're really good,
57:18
SPEAKER_01: which is interesting because Curacao is a place in the Caribbean,
57:21
SPEAKER_01: but blue Hawaiians are made out of it.
57:23
SPEAKER_01: I don't know why.
57:25
SPEAKER_01: I had these friends back in the day that were really into the whole tiki scene.
57:29
SPEAKER_01: And for a while,
57:30
SPEAKER_01: there was this weird kind of tiki scene revival in Los Angeles,
57:33
SPEAKER_01: and there was a bunch of tiki bars and stuff.
57:35
SPEAKER_01: And a friend of mine,
57:37
SPEAKER_01: he built like a giant tiki bar in his backyard
57:39
SPEAKER_01: and they would have these tiki parties.
57:42
SPEAKER_01: And all the drinks they would make were like
57:43
SPEAKER_01: that whole like 1950s tiki era Disneyland, enchanted tiki room kind of stuff.
57:49
SPEAKER_01: He had all these animatronics and costumes and stuff.
57:52
SPEAKER_01: And yeah, like blue Hawaiians are good.
57:57
SPEAKER_01: Blue Curacao is good.
57:59
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, that's kind of my drink.
58:00
SPEAKER_01: I think we talked about wine.
58:02
SPEAKER_01: Wine, I do like wine.
58:04
SPEAKER_01: Wine is probably the thing I drink the most nowadays.
58:08
SPEAKER_01: And I like both white and red wine.
58:11
SPEAKER_01: I like both.
58:13
SPEAKER_01: It all depends on what mood I am.
58:15
SPEAKER_01: I'm kind of a snob, so I will pair my wine with food.
58:18
SPEAKER_01: I'll get the right wine for the right food.
58:21
SPEAKER_01: The last wine I drank,
58:22
SPEAKER_01: I had a delicious meal of swordfish,
58:26
SPEAKER_01: which I don't know if you've ever had swordfish.
58:28
SPEAKER_01: Swordfish is pretty good.
58:30
SPEAKER_01: Swordfish is like a fish for people that don't really like fish, but it was good.
58:35
SPEAKER_01: And I had Pinot Noir,
58:37
SPEAKER_01: which is kind of a light red with it because I think the swordfish is kind
58:41
SPEAKER_01: of steaky, so it's okay to have a red with fish.
58:44
SPEAKER_01: Usually, depending on the fish, I'll go for a white wine, but I do like Pinot Noir a lot.
58:49
SPEAKER_01: So there's my...
58:51
SPEAKER_01: There's my wine snobbery and I think that California wine is the best.
58:57
SPEAKER_01: All right.
58:57
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to tell you guys this.
58:58
SPEAKER_01: I think California wines tend to be the best.
59:01
SPEAKER_01: Um, I've had a lot of good French wine,
59:04
SPEAKER_01: you know,
59:05
SPEAKER_01: maybe if I go to France and I'll try it some like,
59:08
SPEAKER_01: you know,
59:08
SPEAKER_01: more local French wine,
59:09
SPEAKER_01: I might like it more, but for the most part, they're good, but not my favorite.
59:13
SPEAKER_01: Um, Australian wine is absolutely garbage.
59:16
SPEAKER_01: If you ever like drink Australian wine,
59:17
SPEAKER_01: like I was stuck drinking Australian wine in the South Pacific, it's trash.
59:22
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, California wine wins.
59:24
SPEAKER_01: Pinot Noirs from California are some of the best.
59:27
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, that's my booze thing.
59:29
SPEAKER_01: Mai Tais are kind of gross though.
59:32
SPEAKER_01: Mai Tais are kind of rough because they're like a dark drink.
59:34
SPEAKER_01: They usually use dark rum and they're kind of roofie culottes too.
59:39
SPEAKER_01: I also like beer.
59:41
SPEAKER_01: Do you like beer, Fisto?
59:44
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
59:45
SPEAKER_01: What kind of beer do you like?
59:48
SPEAKER_00: I tend to like stouts and lagers depending on my
59:51
SPEAKER_00: It depends on my mood.
59:53
SPEAKER_00: It's either one or the other.
59:54
SPEAKER_01: We are millennials during the hipster era.
59:56
SPEAKER_01: So like I grew up in, you know, California during like the micro brew kind of thing.
1:00:01
SPEAKER_01: So I had a lot of beer.
1:00:03
SPEAKER_01: I tend to be like a Pilsner, you know, red, like a red sometimes.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_01: That whole like red blonde Pilsner kind of, that's what I like.
1:00:11
SPEAKER_01: I like Mexican beers.
1:00:14
SPEAKER_01: My wife is the big.
1:00:14
SPEAKER_01: I think beers are good.
1:00:16
SPEAKER_01: My wife is the really big, what do you call it?
1:00:20
SPEAKER_01: Like IPA.
1:00:22
SPEAKER_01: She liked IPAs a lot.
1:00:24
SPEAKER_00: I never really could get into those.
1:00:25
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I've had them there all right, but it's just eh.
1:00:28
SPEAKER_00: Ales.
1:00:28
SPEAKER_00: I love ales.
1:00:29
SPEAKER_00: Brown ales.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_00: Give me, give me, give me.
1:00:33
SPEAKER_01: IPAs always tasted like pine cones to me, like just way too herbal.
1:00:37
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
1:00:38
SPEAKER_01: But there's a little microbrew here in South Carolina, actually in my town, right?
1:00:44
SPEAKER_01: And it's called Damn Yankee.
1:00:47
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
1:00:49
SPEAKER_01: And they sell this IPA called Damn Yankee IPA.
1:00:55
SPEAKER_01: And it's actually pretty good.
1:00:56
SPEAKER_01: So I like it.
1:01:00
SPEAKER_01: It's good.
1:01:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, IPAs were too much like drinking a bottle of perfumes.
1:01:06
SPEAKER_01: Same thing with Stout still, man.
1:01:10
SPEAKER_01: I never liked Guinness.
1:01:11
SPEAKER_01: People like Guinness.
1:01:11
SPEAKER_01: I don't ever like Guinness.
1:01:12
SPEAKER_01: I think Guinness tastes too flat to me.
1:01:14
SPEAKER_01: It tastes like it's flat.
1:01:16
SPEAKER_01: I don't like it.
1:01:16
SPEAKER_01: I won't say no.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_01: Listen, guys.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_01: If you put a beer in front of me or a glass in front of me,
1:01:28
SPEAKER_01: You slip me a cigarette.
1:01:31
SPEAKER_01: I'm not not drinking it.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_01: I am Eastern European after all.
1:01:37
SPEAKER_01: But I had a bunch of friends that were really big into the Irish pub thing and everything.
1:01:42
SPEAKER_01: I don't know, man.
1:01:43
SPEAKER_01: I always preferred,
1:01:44
SPEAKER_01: when I'd go to Irish pubs,
1:01:46
SPEAKER_01: I would get black and tans where they usually go like,
1:01:51
SPEAKER_01: they would float like bass ale on Guinness or black and browns
1:01:55
SPEAKER_01: where they would mix Guinness with Newcastle, which I much prefer.
1:02:00
SPEAKER_01: I know it's like Irish people are going to stab me for saying this
1:02:03
SPEAKER_01: because Newcastle is British, but I prefer Newcastle.
1:02:07
SPEAKER_01: I used to like cheap-ass European beer, like Stella.
1:02:12
SPEAKER_01: You ever had Stella?
1:02:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:02:15
SPEAKER_00: I like Stella.
1:02:16
SPEAKER_00: Stella's good.
1:02:17
SPEAKER_01: And then my British friend told me that back there they called it Stella Wife Beater.
1:02:23
SPEAKER_01: That's what they referred to as Stella.
1:02:26
SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, I never knew that.
1:02:28
SPEAKER_01: But I guess it's like a chav trash, like a fucking beer, you know?
1:02:35
SPEAKER_01: But I like it.
1:02:36
SPEAKER_01: I like Stella.
1:02:37
SPEAKER_01: It's pretty good.
1:02:38
SPEAKER_00: Stella's good.
1:02:39
SPEAKER_01: All right.
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SPEAKER_01: So what else?
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SPEAKER_01: What other questions we got here?
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SPEAKER_01: What other?
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SPEAKER_00: AMA.
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SPEAKER_00: Black Ibis AMA.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, we got a question from Fatball that talked about Russian literature.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, boy.
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SPEAKER_01: Talked about Russian literature.
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SPEAKER_01: So, well, here we go.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Russian literature.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm sure most people are familiar with Russian literature.
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SPEAKER_01: And there's the two, like, the two titans of Russian literature.
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SPEAKER_01: When you think of Russian literature...
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SPEAKER_01: Immediately what pops to mind is Dostoevsky and Tolstoy, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Interesting enough, most people tend to like one or the other, right?
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SPEAKER_01: One of them was a...
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SPEAKER_01: A criminal that got sent to Siberia,
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SPEAKER_01: came back,
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SPEAKER_01: became an epileptic gambler, and basically was broke and crazy most of his life.
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SPEAKER_01: And the other one was a nobleman that lived well into his old age and did not like
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SPEAKER_01: the Orthodox Church at all.
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SPEAKER_01: Now, let's see.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna tell you that the communists liked one of them a lot and did not ban any
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SPEAKER_01: of his stuff while the communists did not like the other one.
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SPEAKER_01: Ironically, they liked the nobleman.
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SPEAKER_01: They did not like the gambler and the degenerate.
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SPEAKER_01: They liked Tolstoy.
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SPEAKER_01: Tolstoy stuff was very popular with the communists.
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SPEAKER_01: Maybe because he was a nobleman that denounced the Russian army.
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SPEAKER_01: Gave it all up.
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SPEAKER_01: Most of his stuff that he wrote about was really screeds against the Orthodox Church in Russia.
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SPEAKER_01: Now, I'm going to have to mention Lisa Lives.
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SPEAKER_01: All right, because she's always talking about Dostoyevsky this and Dostoyevsky that.
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SPEAKER_01: And I think she's an absolute and total retard, right?
1:04:33
SPEAKER_01: Or a scam artist, right?
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SPEAKER_01: And one thing, she came across my Instagram feed.
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SPEAKER_01: I blocked her on Substack, right?
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SPEAKER_01: But she came across my Instagram feed and she's like,
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SPEAKER_01: Like, books should not be, books should not be political, you know?
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SPEAKER_01: And then she's like, books should be like Dostoevsky.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, what are you talking about, you dumb retard, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Because Dostoevsky,
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SPEAKER_01: who's my favorite writer,
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SPEAKER_01: my favorite 19th century writer, all his books are political, all right?
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SPEAKER_01: Like, One of his greatest books, Demons, is all about politics.
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SPEAKER_01: What are you talking about, woman?
1:05:15
SPEAKER_01: But anyways, she's not a serious person.
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SPEAKER_01: Once again, Wikipedia.
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SPEAKER_01: She states that she went to Columbia.
1:05:22
SPEAKER_01: If that's what Columbia teaches you, I would get my money back because it's embarrassing.
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SPEAKER_01: Her stuff is crazy as hell.
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SPEAKER_00: Columbia GPT.
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SPEAKER_00: Very disappointed.
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SPEAKER_01: I think when you're approaching the Russian
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SPEAKER_01: literature,
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SPEAKER_01: you have to realize it mostly starts in 19th century.
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SPEAKER_01: It's really some of my favorite literature period,
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SPEAKER_01: especially like the classics of Russian literature.
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SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of stuff,
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SPEAKER_01: but for somebody coming from like a I guess Normie perspective,
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SPEAKER_01: I would go with Tolstoy as the first read and I would go with Anna Karenina
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SPEAKER_01: and I think Anna Karenina is a.
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SPEAKER_01: Fantastic novel.
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SPEAKER_01: So the two novels from Tolstoy that are the mainstays are Anna Karenina and War and Peace.
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SPEAKER_01: War and Peace is a massive novel.
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SPEAKER_01: It deals with the Napoleonic Wars.
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SPEAKER_01: It deals with peasants and nobles and how they both fought against Napoleon.
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SPEAKER_01: The disillusionment of Russian nobility towards the West.
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SPEAKER_01: A lot of interesting stuff, but it's kind of a tough, it's a massive book, right?
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SPEAKER_01: And Anna Karenina, though, is a book that reads much, you know, in a good translation.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a very good book.
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SPEAKER_01: It's about...
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SPEAKER_01: It's about love and cheating on your husband and infidelity and the disasters
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SPEAKER_01: that you bring into your life with all that stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: And then I recommend you go to Dostoevsky.
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SPEAKER_01: Now, if you're a cool guy,
1:07:11
SPEAKER_01: if you're not a normie,
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SPEAKER_01: I'd go straight to Dostoevsky, which I think is the better writer.
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SPEAKER_01: A little bit more melodramatic than Tolstoy, but I think his themes are better.
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SPEAKER_01: And I recommend you...
1:07:23
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think everybody should read The Brothers Karamazov,
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SPEAKER_01: which is the greatest novel ever written, in my opinion.
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SPEAKER_01: Crime and Punishment is a masterpiece.
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SPEAKER_01: Difficult because basically you're in the head of Raskolnikov,
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SPEAKER_01: who justifies murdering two innocent people.
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SPEAKER_01: And the whole book is him walking around murdering Basically,
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SPEAKER_01: he murders two innocent people and then he goes around justifying it and
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SPEAKER_01: then he eventually loses his shit, you know?
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SPEAKER_01: And it's in a way like it's not as...
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SPEAKER_01: When you read it, you feel like, wow, okay, well, I've seen this plot before.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, of course you have because he wrote this in the 19th century
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SPEAKER_01: and it's basically been like the blueprint for 20th century fiction, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Like the idea of like committing a crime and then justifying it is
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SPEAKER_01: the thought pattern of like Every modernist and postmodernist,
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SPEAKER_01: you know, so like it's revolutionary when you think about it that way, right?
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SPEAKER_01: And then I recommend everybody reads Demons.
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SPEAKER_01: Demons is a fantastic novel by Dostoevsky.
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SPEAKER_01: It's probably,
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SPEAKER_01: it's a bit more difficult than the other two because the topic is basically about
1:08:37
SPEAKER_01: a bunch of boomers that encourage Like young generation degeneracy.
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SPEAKER_01: And then they're shocked that young generation degeneracy
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SPEAKER_01: and revolutionary stuff turns into murder.
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SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_01: And they go, oops, my bad.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's basically the current day, but set in 19th century Russia.
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SPEAKER_01: I read it in 2020 during the summer of Floyd and COVID and stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: And the whole time I was like, what?
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SPEAKER_01: Oh my God, this is what's going on right now.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, like this is exactly what's going on.
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SPEAKER_01: You know,
1:09:16
SPEAKER_01: like all these like stupid,
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SPEAKER_01: like rich boomers are encouraging this violence and this insanity.
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SPEAKER_01: And like,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: it's just, it's, it's,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: and obviously he criticizes it because that's the whole, you know, he does critical.
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SPEAKER_01: But if you are interested in Dostoevsky
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SPEAKER_01: as a Orthodox Christian and Orthodox kind
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SPEAKER_01: of Christian kind of viewpoint on,
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SPEAKER_01: on that kind of stuff, I would recommend reading The Brothers Karamazov.
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SPEAKER_01: Which at its heart, at its core, is a courtroom drama.
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SPEAKER_01: It's about a murder and then the trial of the murderer.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's a mystery.
1:09:52
SPEAKER_01: There's a mystery.
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SPEAKER_01: Like you don't know who murdered the character.
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SPEAKER_01: And I don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a masterpiece.
1:09:59
SPEAKER_01: It's truly one of the greatest novels, if not the greatest novels ever written.
1:10:04
SPEAKER_01: But that's the basic Normie response to Russian literature.
1:10:08
SPEAKER_01: There's a lot, lot of more stuff, right?
1:10:12
SPEAKER_01: There's The Master and Margarita, which is a fantastic book.
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SPEAKER_01: Have you read that?
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SPEAKER_01: Which one?
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SPEAKER_01: The Master and Margarita.
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SPEAKER_00: No, I have not.
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SPEAKER_01: The Master and Margarita is basically a kind of a Soviet era novel.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's about, it's hard to describe.
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SPEAKER_01: It's about like, Satan basically comes to Moscow, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Himself, Satan, like Lucifer.
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SPEAKER_01: And he's got these servants and one of them is a giant cat that walks and talks.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's an absurd novel because Satan and these guys are walking around
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SPEAKER_01: and they're commenting on the Soviet system.
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SPEAKER_01: And there's this writer that's trying to run away and this girl looking for him
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SPEAKER_01: and she turns into a witch and they're riding a broomstick and there's
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SPEAKER_01: a fucking giant cat.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's just really insane.
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SPEAKER_01: It's really good, really out there, right?
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SPEAKER_01: But it's very Russian ironic kind of humor, makes fun of like communism.
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SPEAKER_01: Supposedly, Joseph Stalin really liked it, but, you know, so it's pretty interesting.
1:11:21
SPEAKER_01: There's Dr. Zhivago, which I think is kind of melodramatic.
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SPEAKER_01: That's another one that's, like,
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SPEAKER_01: written for the, like,
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SPEAKER_01: it's about,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: the communist revolution and he's a
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SPEAKER_00: white Russian and goes to
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SPEAKER_01: Siberia and blah,
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SPEAKER_01: blah, blah.
1:11:39
SPEAKER_01: But what I think,
1:11:40
SPEAKER_01: and then there's the more,
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SPEAKER_01: the A recent novel called Laorus,
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SPEAKER_01: which is actually written by a Ukrainian man,
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SPEAKER_01: but it's written by a Ukrainian-Russian man, Eugene Vodoleskine.
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SPEAKER_01: And he's probably one of the best writers that's kind of known outside of
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SPEAKER_01: the Russia-Ukraine area in the current, like, literary world.
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SPEAKER_01: And Laorus is a book about a holy fool, an orthodox monk.
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SPEAKER_01: He's like an orthodox holy fool walking around the Middle Ages.
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SPEAKER_01: And it kind of like...
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SPEAKER_01: It's a really complicated story, but it's really good.
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SPEAKER_01: It's really worth reading.
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SPEAKER_01: You can find reviews about it.
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SPEAKER_01: But it's called La Russe by Eugene Voleskine.
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SPEAKER_01: He also wrote another novel called The Aviator, which is about a guy that wakes up.
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SPEAKER_01: He's a pilot or some sort,
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SPEAKER_01: like a Soviet pilot,
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SPEAKER_01: but he wakes up in
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SPEAKER_01: a bed and he has no memory of how he ended up there.
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SPEAKER_01: And he's kind of piecing his life together from talking to nurses and stuff and
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SPEAKER_01: to It's really interesting.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a really interesting novel.
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SPEAKER_01: And then there's, there's like, you know, there's a lot of good Russian stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: I think,
1:12:46
SPEAKER_01: you know,
1:12:47
SPEAKER_01: American writer and essayist said that the Metro series,
1:12:50
SPEAKER_01: it's like, I've never heard of those other video games.
1:12:53
SPEAKER_01: There's a video game called the Metro ones, right?
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SPEAKER_01: There's,
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SPEAKER_01: Most Russian novels have the same kind of vibe as Andrei Tarkovsky movies.
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SPEAKER_01: So if you don't want to start reading a long Russian novel,
1:13:10
SPEAKER_01: just watch an Andrei Tarkovsky movie and watch Stalker.
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SPEAKER_01: All right.
1:13:14
SPEAKER_01: And you kind of understand the kind of vibe of most Russian brain people,
1:13:18
SPEAKER_01: you know, uh, Stalker is a great example of it.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh, Andre Rubilev,
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SPEAKER_01: really anything by any of Andre Tarkovsky movies,
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SPEAKER_01: they're all masterpieces in my opinion.
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SPEAKER_01: And I, I really recommend it.
1:13:30
SPEAKER_01: Um, I see, I've never run Metro, right?
1:13:33
SPEAKER_01: So I'm going to have to grab Metro 2033, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Um,
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm not as familiar with like more contemporary Russian stuff.
1:13:43
SPEAKER_01: I'm actually a little bit more familiar with like Romanian stuff,
1:13:46
SPEAKER_01: a lot of South American stuff, but Russian stuff for some reason I'm not.
1:13:49
SPEAKER_01: I know a lot of Japanese contemporary stuff, right?
1:13:53
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, that's kind of my Russian thing.
1:13:55
SPEAKER_01: Now, I do kind of want to make a note on the Lisa Leib's kind of like literary conversation.
1:14:03
SPEAKER_01: There's always these people that are I feel like they're constantly embarrassing themselves.
1:14:08
SPEAKER_01: They're kind of like, they're grifting on the conservatism, which really irritates me, right?
1:14:14
SPEAKER_01: Because what they'll do stuff is like, oh, have you been to Barnes & Noble?
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SPEAKER_01: It's all gay stuff, blah, blah, blah, you know?
1:14:20
SPEAKER_01: And it's like, okay, like, you need to read the stuff before, you know what I mean?
1:14:25
SPEAKER_01: Like, it's like this doom and gloom stuff.
1:14:27
SPEAKER_01: And it's like, okay, well...
1:14:29
SPEAKER_01: You're retarded, so I can't take your word for it, right?
1:14:32
SPEAKER_01: And even if a book has gay people in it, it doesn't mean it's bad.
1:14:37
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean, right?
1:14:38
SPEAKER_01: They never really explain why a book is bad.
1:14:41
SPEAKER_01: They'll say, oh, it's woke.
1:14:42
SPEAKER_01: Well, why is it woke?
1:14:43
SPEAKER_00: Right, yeah.
1:14:44
SPEAKER_01: And you'll have somebody say something like, oh, look, all TV's woke right now.
1:14:49
SPEAKER_01: It's very boomer-coded.
1:14:50
SPEAKER_01: They go, oh, all movies and all TV's woke and blah, blah, blah.
1:14:54
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, well, I don't know.
1:14:57
SPEAKER_01: Have you watched White Lotus?
1:14:59
SPEAKER_01: White Lotus is made by a gay man, and it criticizes woke.
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SPEAKER_01: The first season criticizes wokeies, basically.
1:15:07
SPEAKER_01: And it criticizes,
1:15:08
SPEAKER_01: it literally addresses the fact that wokeies take advantage of You know,
1:15:14
SPEAKER_01: like Islanders,
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SPEAKER_01: basically, and then leave them hanging when the real shit hits the fan, right?
1:15:19
SPEAKER_01: And that's what women do.
1:15:21
SPEAKER_01: Like, it criticizes every aspect of wokeism.
1:15:25
SPEAKER_01: Have you seen The White Lotus the first season?
1:15:27
SPEAKER_00: We started watching it a while back, yeah.
1:15:29
SPEAKER_01: Oh, dude, I think it's fantastic.
1:15:32
SPEAKER_01: It's made by a gay man, right?
1:15:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:15:36
SPEAKER_01: You know,
1:15:37
SPEAKER_01: so many characters that, like, end up, like,
1:15:39
SPEAKER_01: there's a,
1:15:40
SPEAKER_01: you know,
1:15:40
SPEAKER_01: Alexandra D'Addario is in it, you know, our girl from The True Detective, right?
1:15:45
SPEAKER_01: And, you know,
1:15:46
SPEAKER_01: the whole thing,
1:15:47
SPEAKER_01: she's this woke girl,
1:15:47
SPEAKER_01: she wants to be a journalist and blah, blah, blah,
1:15:50
SPEAKER_01: but she marries a rich boy and stuff, or,
1:15:52
SPEAKER_01: you know,
1:15:52
SPEAKER_01: rich guy,
1:15:53
SPEAKER_01: and he's like, well,
1:15:53
SPEAKER_01: you're gonna, what,
1:15:54
SPEAKER_01: make that $200 an article working for Gawker or whatever, you know what I mean?
1:15:58
SPEAKER_01: He's like,
1:15:59
SPEAKER_01: he's a total prick,
1:16:00
SPEAKER_01: like a bro,
1:16:01
SPEAKER_01: whatever, and she decides she's gonna She's going to divorce them and leave them.
1:16:06
SPEAKER_01: This is their honeymoon, right?
1:16:07
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, spoiler, because the show's been on for 10 fucking years, right?
1:16:10
SPEAKER_01: You know what she does?
1:16:13
SPEAKER_01: She's like, oh my God, I don't want to be poor.
1:16:15
SPEAKER_01: And she goes back.
1:16:16
SPEAKER_01: She puts all her like woke like ideas aside and goes back to her husband
1:16:20
SPEAKER_01: because she does not want to be poor.
1:16:21
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
1:16:23
SPEAKER_01: And it's like,
1:16:24
SPEAKER_01: you know, like, dude, like,
1:16:28
SPEAKER_01: You know,
1:16:28
SPEAKER_01: but somebody at least like, ah, there's a gay person in there or something.
1:16:32
SPEAKER_01: But people like her are grifters, man.
1:16:35
SPEAKER_01: They're not really, like, beware.
1:16:38
SPEAKER_01: Be weary of the conservative slop ecosystem, okay?
1:16:45
SPEAKER_01: Like, I think we should really, like, reject that.
1:16:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:16:48
SPEAKER_00: Well, for example,
1:16:50
SPEAKER_00: there was a TV show not too long ago that you asked me to watch,
1:16:53
SPEAKER_00: and I watched it, and it was really quite excellent.
1:16:56
SPEAKER_00: Which one is it?
1:16:58
SPEAKER_00: Made by a transsexual Australian.
1:17:00
SPEAKER_01: Oh, there we go.
1:17:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:17:01
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:17:02
SPEAKER_00: The amazing digital circus.
1:17:03
SPEAKER_01: The amazing digital circus.
1:17:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:17:05
SPEAKER_00: And I had a few people be like, oh, you're watching that.
1:17:07
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, yeah,
1:17:09
SPEAKER_00: you mean the show where the self-insert character gets abstracted and goes insane
1:17:13
SPEAKER_00: because they're unable to resolve the,
1:17:17
SPEAKER_00: they're unable to resolve the contradictions inherent within their soul.
1:17:20
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:17:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:17:21
SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
1:17:22
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:17:23
SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
1:17:24
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:17:24
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
1:17:25
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:17:26
SPEAKER_01: I thought the ending was great, you know, because it –
1:17:30
SPEAKER_01: He, you know, he,
1:17:31
SPEAKER_01: he basically rejected love,
1:17:34
SPEAKER_01: you know, and he can never, he can never come to grips with it.
1:17:37
SPEAKER_01: You know, he rejected, he knew that he rejected it from the, he knew that he was rejecting.
1:17:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:17:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:17:42
SPEAKER_01: He rejected it from, um, from, from Pomni.
1:17:46
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:17:46
SPEAKER_01: And the fact that it is like the biggest nightmare in the world of a show, you know what I mean?
1:17:52
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:17:53
SPEAKER_01: And, and it's,
1:17:54
SPEAKER_01: you know,
1:17:55
SPEAKER_00: to be honest though, to be honest though, it's just kind of your average discord.
1:17:58
SPEAKER_00: That's what it was.
1:17:59
SPEAKER_00: It was just your average discord.
1:18:02
SPEAKER_00: One thing I did enjoy too,
1:18:03
SPEAKER_00: and I thought this was worth thinking about more,
1:18:06
SPEAKER_00: but how they eventually resolved the conceit is that they were all copies of
1:18:10
SPEAKER_00: the real person.
1:18:12
SPEAKER_00: They were all copies of the real minds.
1:18:15
SPEAKER_00: And I thought that was interesting because there's so many people
1:18:18
SPEAKER_00: that think online is the quote unquote real world.
1:18:21
SPEAKER_00: You know,
1:18:21
SPEAKER_00: you go back to these,
1:18:22
SPEAKER_00: you go back to these bros that are all like,
1:18:23
SPEAKER_00: oh, how can you don't use your real face and real name?
1:18:26
SPEAKER_00: And then it's like, you're not using your real face or real name either, dude.
1:18:29
SPEAKER_00: Come on.
1:18:29
SPEAKER_00: Like you, you could be using your real name and real face on the internet for 20, 25, 30 years.
1:18:35
SPEAKER_00: It's nothing like who you really are.
1:18:37
SPEAKER_00: Give me a break.
1:18:38
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:18:39
SPEAKER_01: And they realized that like, they realized There was a level of acceptance of just what it was.
1:18:46
SPEAKER_01: They're like, okay,
1:18:49
SPEAKER_01: I can put back the past behind me because the past has no meaning anymore
1:18:54
SPEAKER_01: because I am not that person.
1:18:56
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
1:18:58
SPEAKER_00: There is no meaning in this place.
1:19:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was an excellent insight because once they accepted what they were,
1:19:05
SPEAKER_00: everything became easy.
1:19:09
SPEAKER_00: And it's when they were trying to be something that they weren't.
1:19:11
SPEAKER_00: They thought they were people.
1:19:12
SPEAKER_00: They thought they were actual people.
1:19:14
SPEAKER_00: And even the AI,
1:19:19
SPEAKER_00: there's a lot of, I think, great truth, and especially what the AI went through.
1:19:23
SPEAKER_00: What was the guy's name again?
1:19:25
SPEAKER_01: Cain.
1:19:26
SPEAKER_00: Cain, yes.
1:19:27
SPEAKER_01: We're talking about the amazing digital circus.
1:19:29
SPEAKER_00: Yes, the amazing digital circus.
1:19:32
SPEAKER_00: But what Cain went through, Cain, Well, he pulled a cane, right?
1:19:37
SPEAKER_00: In the Bible, he murders Abel.
1:19:38
SPEAKER_00: In this one, he eats his little AI friend and tries to kind of absorb his powers or whatever.
1:19:42
SPEAKER_00: And it was trying to be more than what he actually was.
1:19:45
SPEAKER_00: And then once he accepted, oh, no, I'm less than that.
1:19:49
SPEAKER_00: And that's fine.
1:19:51
SPEAKER_00: Then he became the best of what he was.
1:19:53
SPEAKER_01: Fantastic.
1:19:55
SPEAKER_01: And Jax could not accept what he truly was,
1:19:58
SPEAKER_00: you know?
1:19:58
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:19:58
SPEAKER_00: That's why he abstracted.
1:20:00
SPEAKER_01: He abstracted, you know?
1:20:01
SPEAKER_01: And it's really, like, I was actually really shocked that he Abstracted.
1:20:06
SPEAKER_01: I didn't expect that.
1:20:07
SPEAKER_01: I thought they were going to fix him with the power of love or something like that.
1:20:12
SPEAKER_01: They're like, nope.
1:20:12
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:20:12
SPEAKER_00: I thought they were going to pull him out or somehow.
1:20:14
SPEAKER_01: I did appreciate that.
1:20:17
SPEAKER_01: Save him.
1:20:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:20:20
SPEAKER_00: No, he did.
1:20:21
SPEAKER_00: They don't save him, but they figure out how to care for him.
1:20:24
SPEAKER_00: Almost as if how you care for the mentally ill.
1:20:26
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:20:33
SPEAKER_01: It was interesting how they've accepted their fate in a way.
1:20:37
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
1:20:37
SPEAKER_01: I thought it was a very smart show, you know?
1:20:40
SPEAKER_01: It really was.
1:20:40
SPEAKER_01: It really was.
1:20:41
SPEAKER_01: I really enjoyed it.
1:20:43
SPEAKER_01: So interesting enough,
1:20:44
SPEAKER_01: the last question I'm going to address is Yosef Hirsch said,
1:20:50
SPEAKER_01: talk about anime, right?
1:20:53
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, okay.
1:20:53
SPEAKER_01: Hey, we just did.
1:20:55
SPEAKER_01: We just did.
1:20:55
SPEAKER_01: We're talking about animation, but not anime as in Japanese animation.
1:20:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:21:00
SPEAKER_01: God, I get a lot of crap from people.
1:21:01
SPEAKER_01: People go, Alex, you watch anime,
1:21:03
SPEAKER_00: you weep.
1:21:04
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, listen, I used to hate anime.
1:21:05
SPEAKER_01: I used to hate anime, man.
1:21:10
SPEAKER_01: I have a lot of older friends that are like, Alex used to be such an anime hater.
1:21:14
SPEAKER_01: Now you always like talking about it.
1:21:16
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, listen, okay.
1:21:18
SPEAKER_01: I ran out of stuff to watch, okay?
1:21:21
SPEAKER_01: I ran out of stuff to watch and I decided to give anime a try
1:21:24
SPEAKER_01: because my young daughter wanted me to watch Demon Slayer with her.
1:21:28
SPEAKER_01: And I realized, wow.
1:21:30
SPEAKER_01: This stuff is actually really good.
1:21:32
SPEAKER_01: And then I realized, wow, a lot of the anime is actually better than Western movies.
1:21:37
SPEAKER_01: And it deals with themes and stuff that you just can't find anywhere in any like Western media.
1:21:43
SPEAKER_01: All right.
1:21:44
SPEAKER_01: So do I like like Dragon Ball Z type anime where they punch each other
1:21:49
SPEAKER_01: for like 30 hours for 20 days or whatever?
1:21:51
SPEAKER_01: No, not at all.
1:21:52
SPEAKER_01: I still don't like that stuff at all.
1:21:53
SPEAKER_01: But the medium of like animation goes to really to the next level.
1:21:58
SPEAKER_01: And some of the stuff is so good out there and Kind of the two main reasons I like it.
1:22:03
SPEAKER_01: One, I like watching with my daughter, the stuff that's appropriate for her to watch.
1:22:07
SPEAKER_01: I'm not watching Chainsmoker Cat,
1:22:09
SPEAKER_01: by the way,
1:22:10
SPEAKER_01: which is an insane show where she knocks out her neighbor with a fart and she smokes
1:22:16
SPEAKER_01: a cigarette that she dropped in dog poop.
1:22:20
SPEAKER_01: There's a cat girl that's shooting up heroin next door and she walks in on it.
1:22:25
SPEAKER_00: Naturally, naturally.
1:22:27
SPEAKER_00: Very normal.
1:22:29
SPEAKER_01: But I'm not watching it with my daughter.
1:22:31
SPEAKER_01: But the idea they can explore stuff.
1:22:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't want to watch Goku build a spirit ball to kill self for 15 straight episodes.
1:22:40
SPEAKER_00: No, I thought that shit was boring when I was in middle school.
1:22:42
SPEAKER_01: But I did watch it.
1:22:44
SPEAKER_01: Like the Demon Slayer Infinity Castle movie.
1:22:47
SPEAKER_01: And I was like three hours of fighting.
1:22:49
SPEAKER_01: Like, I was like, dude, I'm so bored of this.
1:22:51
SPEAKER_01: But like, it was still kind of fun.
1:22:52
SPEAKER_01: The animation is really good in Infinity Castle.
1:22:55
SPEAKER_01: Not as good as Chainsaw Man.
1:22:56
SPEAKER_01: Chainsaw Man is peak, man.
1:22:57
SPEAKER_01: Chainsaw Man is so good.
1:22:59
SPEAKER_01: Um, but there's two things that like anime does better than, than Western media, right?
1:23:06
SPEAKER_01: One, um,
1:23:08
SPEAKER_01: It does really good gender roles and it does really good characters
1:23:13
SPEAKER_01: and evil characters and in between characters.
1:23:16
SPEAKER_01: And it doesn't slip into woke cliches.
1:23:23
SPEAKER_01: It's very hard to go back to Western media after watching anime for a while
1:23:26
SPEAKER_01: because there's no...
1:23:31
SPEAKER_01: In a typical,
1:23:31
SPEAKER_01: if you watch a kid's cartoon,
1:23:33
SPEAKER_01: if you watch a kid's cartoon with my daughter,
1:23:34
SPEAKER_01: for example,
1:23:35
SPEAKER_01: and it's a Western cartoon or even a Western animated movie or something like that,
1:23:40
SPEAKER_01: the kids are always smart-mouthed kids that are disrespectful to their parents and
1:23:45
SPEAKER_01: the girl is always the sassy bee that always wins and the boys are retarded,
1:23:50
SPEAKER_01: that kind of stuff.
1:23:53
SPEAKER_01: You don't get that in Japanese anime.
1:23:55
SPEAKER_01: It's very almost traditional kind of roles.
1:23:59
SPEAKER_01: Even when like the girls are badass and the males are weaker,
1:24:03
SPEAKER_01: you still stick to kind of a traditional kind of vibe.
1:24:07
SPEAKER_01: Like the women are women and the men are men.
1:24:10
SPEAKER_01: And even the, I mean,
1:24:12
SPEAKER_01: there's like transgender dudes and weird gay people and all kinds of stuff,
1:24:15
SPEAKER_01: but it all kind of fits into a very realistic thing.
1:24:18
SPEAKER_01: It isn't fake it.
1:24:19
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
1:24:19
SPEAKER_01: There's like a lack of like, it's not fraudulent.
1:24:22
SPEAKER_01: It feels a lot more realistic.
1:24:24
SPEAKER_01: And I don't know how to describe it.
1:24:25
SPEAKER_01: Like, like something can be like fake and fantasy, but it can still be true.
1:24:31
SPEAKER_01: Is it kind of
1:24:32
SPEAKER_00: like, yeah, well,
1:24:34
SPEAKER_00: it makes me think that it makes me think that the degenerate aspects are observed,
1:24:39
SPEAKER_00: not prescribed.
1:24:41
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:24:41
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
1:24:42
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:24:42
SPEAKER_00: It's part of the world.
1:24:43
SPEAKER_00: Like this is actually how things are and actually how people are, especially these days.
1:24:47
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:24:48
SPEAKER_00: But it isn't necessarily going, this is how it should
1:24:51
SPEAKER_01: be.
1:24:52
SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
1:24:53
SPEAKER_00: Or, you know, it's just straight up propaganda.
1:24:56
SPEAKER_01: Well, like Colton Scott said, Normie Naruto is better than 90% of Western media.
1:24:59
SPEAKER_01: No, it's true.
1:25:01
SPEAKER_01: It is, you know?
1:25:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:25:02
SPEAKER_01: And it's just so much more like, so much more like pleasant and, I don't know, but I enjoy it.
1:25:09
SPEAKER_01: And that's like, that's one reason I've
1:25:11
SPEAKER_00: been enjoying
1:25:12
SPEAKER_01: him.
1:25:12
SPEAKER_01: It's probably the difference.
1:25:14
SPEAKER_01: Have you watched Freerun?
1:25:15
SPEAKER_01: Any Freerun at all?
1:25:16
SPEAKER_00: Not yet.
1:25:16
SPEAKER_00: Not yet.
1:25:17
SPEAKER_00: That's on my list of things.
1:25:19
SPEAKER_00: But it strikes me what you're describing is it's the difference between hearing
1:25:24
SPEAKER_00: a story and hearing a sermon.
1:25:26
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:25:27
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:25:28
SPEAKER_00: Especially with Hollywood as our de facto church.
1:25:32
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:25:34
SPEAKER_01: And you watch a lot of Western animation.
1:25:39
SPEAKER_01: It's like, oh my gosh, do I need to see another Batman?
1:25:42
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm so fucking tired of Batman.
1:25:44
SPEAKER_00: Do you need to see another Spider-Man?
1:25:45
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:25:46
SPEAKER_01: It's like we're exactly we are completely like intellectually and creatively bankrupt.
1:25:51
SPEAKER_01: You know, there's like nothing coming coming.
1:25:53
SPEAKER_00: You know, I had a I had a student ask me if I saw the new Spider-Man.
1:25:58
SPEAKER_00: And in my mind, you know, that mean like like the Vietnam flashbacks.
1:26:03
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:26:03
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:26:04
SPEAKER_00: But it was that.
1:26:04
SPEAKER_00: But it was just Tobey Maguire.
1:26:07
SPEAKER_01: I haven't seen it, bro.
1:26:09
SPEAKER_01: You realize that like Batman,
1:26:11
SPEAKER_01: Superman,
1:26:12
SPEAKER_01: Catwoman,
1:26:12
SPEAKER_01: the Joker and all these characters were characters written and designed
1:26:16
SPEAKER_01: before like our grandparents are born,
1:26:18
SPEAKER_01: you know,
1:26:19
SPEAKER_01: like or like my mom was born,
1:26:20
SPEAKER_01: you know, it's like, dude, I don't care about this anymore.
1:26:23
SPEAKER_01: I've got I'm over it.
1:26:24
SPEAKER_01: And so there's also like a different.
1:26:27
SPEAKER_01: Like if you watch a lot of like, there's like the more adult anime, right?
1:26:31
SPEAKER_01: And if you watch a lot of it,
1:26:34
SPEAKER_01: the writing in it is,
1:26:36
SPEAKER_01: so one interesting thing about the anime is that it's very writer focused compared
1:26:42
SPEAKER_01: to Western stuff, right?
1:26:44
SPEAKER_01: Like anime comes out of an ecosystem where almost all the anime are originally manga, right?
1:26:52
SPEAKER_01: Right, yes.
1:26:54
SPEAKER_01: Who writes them is really important.
1:26:59
SPEAKER_01: Who the writer is, that's who the celebrity is.
1:27:05
SPEAKER_01: A show will usually be like a manga and it'll go on for many, many years.
1:27:10
SPEAKER_01: It'll be very popular.
1:27:11
SPEAKER_01: It'll have like a billion downloads on like the digital manga stuff or like a bunch of cells.
1:27:15
SPEAKER_01: They're usually like magazines, like weekly magazines or monthly magazines or whatever.
1:27:20
SPEAKER_01: And then they get compiled into the books, the kind of books you buy like at the bookstore.
1:27:25
SPEAKER_01: And then eventually they get turned into a manga, right?
1:27:27
SPEAKER_01: Into an anime.
1:27:29
SPEAKER_01: So by the time that like an anime comes out,
1:27:32
SPEAKER_01: it's already has like a fan base or like,
1:27:34
SPEAKER_01: you know, people already know the story, right?
1:27:37
SPEAKER_01: And it's like,
1:27:38
SPEAKER_01: you are a,
1:27:41
SPEAKER_01: you know who the writer is and you go follow anime or manga that is written
1:27:47
SPEAKER_01: by this same author, right?
1:27:49
SPEAKER_01: And interestingly enough, a lot of the best ones are actually written by women.
1:27:53
SPEAKER_01: Some of my favorite ones, like Free Run is written by a woman.
1:27:57
SPEAKER_01: A lot of them are written by women.
1:28:02
SPEAKER_01: They're very writer-centric and the anime tries really,
1:28:06
SPEAKER_01: really hard to stick to what the writer wrote, if that makes sense.
1:28:11
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
1:28:14
SPEAKER_01: Most people don't know who wrote the Marvel movie.
1:28:19
SPEAKER_01: Like any Marvel, do you know?
1:28:20
SPEAKER_01: Nobody knows, right?
1:28:22
SPEAKER_01: Like, it's like there's no like...
1:28:25
SPEAKER_00: They were spawned off the... A committee wrote them.
1:28:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they
1:28:27
SPEAKER_01: were spawned by committee.
1:28:31
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:28:32
SPEAKER_01: So like, yeah, that's the interesting stuff.
1:28:34
SPEAKER_01: So there's an artistic element that is lacking in like Western media.
1:28:39
SPEAKER_01: And they do some really creative stuff.
1:28:41
SPEAKER_01: So I don't know if you guys can see the background here.
1:28:44
SPEAKER_01: This is the background from currently what I think is my favorite anime
1:28:47
SPEAKER_01: of all time called Dorohidoro, right?
1:28:50
SPEAKER_01: So it's on Netflix.
1:28:52
SPEAKER_01: So you don't even have to have any cool anime apps like whatever, right?
1:28:56
SPEAKER_01: But it's on Netflix.
1:28:56
SPEAKER_01: It's called Dorohidoro.
1:28:59
SPEAKER_01: And...
1:29:00
SPEAKER_01: It is the most insane, creative, acid trip of a show ever.
1:29:06
SPEAKER_01: It's got two seasons.
1:29:07
SPEAKER_01: It's not done yet.
1:29:08
SPEAKER_01: It's still going to have more seasons coming out.
1:29:12
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to try to explain it to you.
1:29:16
SPEAKER_01: It starts off with this guy who has a reptile head.
1:29:19
SPEAKER_01: He has a giant lizard head.
1:29:21
SPEAKER_01: He's eating this other guy.
1:29:24
SPEAKER_01: There's this place called The Hole.
1:29:26
SPEAKER_01: It's...
1:29:28
SPEAKER_01: Basically, Kowloon, like walled city, Hong Kong.
1:29:31
SPEAKER_01: It's kind of a crap hole, dude.
1:29:33
SPEAKER_01: It looks like a crappy Chinese bum town, right?
1:29:36
SPEAKER_01: It's kind of modeled on Kowloon City.
1:29:38
SPEAKER_01: And there's like weird mutants and stuff and zombies and all kinds
1:29:43
SPEAKER_01: of crazy shit walking around, right?
1:29:45
SPEAKER_01: And this is dude.
1:29:46
SPEAKER_01: He's this buff guy with a reptile head, right?
1:29:48
SPEAKER_01: And he's hanging out with this blonde girl who owns a restaurant called The Hungry Bug.
1:29:53
SPEAKER_01: And she makes some gyoza.
1:29:55
SPEAKER_01: The problem with him and the people in the hole,
1:29:57
SPEAKER_01: the people in the hole are humans,
1:29:59
SPEAKER_01: but these guys called sorcerers come from a different like plane of existence.
1:30:05
SPEAKER_01: They come from this like weird Gothic European city and they practice their magic
1:30:10
SPEAKER_01: on these locals and turn them into like monstrosities and weird shit happens.
1:30:14
SPEAKER_01: And all this, like the city's kind of like polluted by the byproduct of this magic.
1:30:19
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:30:21
SPEAKER_01: And somebody turned.
1:30:23
SPEAKER_01: The main character's name is Kaiman.
1:30:25
SPEAKER_01: Somebody turned his head into like an alligator head, like a lizard head, right?
1:30:31
SPEAKER_01: Sure, like you do.
1:30:34
SPEAKER_01: And inside his throat lives a human.
1:30:36
SPEAKER_01: And so when he puts a sorcerer in his mouth,
1:30:39
SPEAKER_01: the human goes,
1:30:40
SPEAKER_01: you're the one or you're not the one because he's trying to figure out who did it
1:30:43
SPEAKER_01: to him.
1:30:44
SPEAKER_01: And he's trying to figure out who he is because he has no memory.
1:30:49
SPEAKER_01: So him and this girl, they go on this kind of insane adventure.
1:30:53
SPEAKER_01: Through the whole,
1:30:54
SPEAKER_01: the sorcerer world,
1:30:56
SPEAKER_01: you find out that sorcerers are basically built by the devils who live in hell,
1:31:00
SPEAKER_01: who inject a tumor that's the shape of a little tiny devil into their brains
1:31:06
SPEAKER_01: that gives them their powers and they have this smoke and they have these glands
1:31:09
SPEAKER_01: in their fingers and their liver that create the magic.
1:31:12
SPEAKER_01: A lot of violence happens.
1:31:14
SPEAKER_01: It's just the most insane.
1:31:15
SPEAKER_01: Have you ever seen the movie Heavy Metal, the heavy metal cartoon from the late 70s, 80s?
1:31:20
SPEAKER_01: Do you remember that one?
1:31:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, vaguely, vaguely.
1:31:23
SPEAKER_00: But like hyperviolence.
1:31:25
SPEAKER_01: Hyperviolence.
1:31:25
SPEAKER_01: It looks like heavy metal.
1:31:27
SPEAKER_01: The art is inspired by like Slipknot videos and like 90s metal stuff.
1:31:33
SPEAKER_01: It looks crazy as all fuck, right?
1:31:35
SPEAKER_01: It looks like heavy metal, the magazine.
1:31:37
SPEAKER_01: But it is one of the best shows I've ever watched.
1:31:39
SPEAKER_01: Why?
1:31:40
SPEAKER_01: Because I'm watching it and I'm like, what the hell is going on, dude?
1:31:45
SPEAKER_01: Right?
1:31:45
SPEAKER_01: Like, what am I watching?
1:31:47
SPEAKER_01: Like...
1:31:48
SPEAKER_01: Like, and the plot makes perfect sense.
1:31:49
SPEAKER_01: And it's funny and violent, but also funny.
1:31:52
SPEAKER_01: And like, it's deep because there's like friendships between characters.
1:31:57
SPEAKER_01: You know,
1:31:57
SPEAKER_01: there's just like,
1:31:58
SPEAKER_01: there's this one guy who his powers are to like basically dissect somebody
1:32:03
SPEAKER_01: into like pieces, but they still stay up, right?
1:32:07
SPEAKER_01: Like they still stay alive, even though he like sushis them.
1:32:10
SPEAKER_01: And he puts them in like trash bags and he like, that's how he takes them around.
1:32:13
SPEAKER_01: And this other girl's like, oh, let me look in the bag.
1:32:15
SPEAKER_01: And then she throws up in the bag.
1:32:17
SPEAKER_01: And it's just like what I'll check that out it's insane so
1:32:23
SPEAKER_01: if you have netflix watch it okay now for guys that don't watch anime
1:32:28
SPEAKER_01: at all I highly recommend I highly recommend that there's a rule
1:32:34
SPEAKER_01: to anime watching right you have to watch like the first three episodes
1:32:38
SPEAKER_01: because yeah one thing about anime is that it doesn't So much American media is made
1:32:46
SPEAKER_01: for retarded people nowadays, right?
1:32:48
SPEAKER_01: And they fully admit that it's made for retarded people, right?
1:32:52
SPEAKER_01: Like if you listen to like,
1:32:54
SPEAKER_01: if you like look in like writer's rooms or the kind of stuff that Netflix
1:32:58
SPEAKER_01: and HBO is putting out now,
1:33:00
SPEAKER_01: which, oh my God, HBO, has there ever been a fall from grace of quality?
1:33:04
SPEAKER_01: You know, HBO used to be peak and now it's just trash.
1:33:07
SPEAKER_01: But have you ever heard of the idea of the second screen?
1:33:12
SPEAKER_00: Second screen, no.
1:33:13
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so a lot of American television writing uses this thing called
1:33:19
SPEAKER_01: the second screen principle, right?
1:33:21
SPEAKER_01: So it assumes that the viewer is looking at their cell phone or doing something else, right?
1:33:30
SPEAKER_00: I feel called out.
1:33:32
SPEAKER_01: So basically it assumes that,
1:33:34
SPEAKER_01: so it has to dumb down everything so you can like understand what's going on
1:33:40
SPEAKER_01: while doing while scrolling at the same time.
1:33:43
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:33:44
SPEAKER_01: So literally like they want your media, your entertainment to be extra retarded.
1:33:51
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:33:52
SPEAKER_01: And you don't get that in Japanese stuff, right?
1:33:54
SPEAKER_01: Like I don't give a shit.
1:33:56
SPEAKER_01: It goes hard, and you don't get it?
1:33:58
SPEAKER_01: Well, that's your problem.
1:33:59
SPEAKER_00: Rewind it.
1:34:01
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
1:34:02
SPEAKER_01: And I respect that, right?
1:34:05
SPEAKER_01: I mean, if you watch the latest season of Stranger Things, it was a good one.
1:34:10
SPEAKER_01: Great example of the second screen thing where every five minutes
1:34:14
SPEAKER_01: the characters would go into this retarded exposition
1:34:17
SPEAKER_01: and remind you exactly what they're doing, what they're thinking.
1:34:20
SPEAKER_01: It was all just telling.
1:34:21
SPEAKER_01: They're like, oh, remember when the Demogorgon came out?
1:34:24
SPEAKER_01: Now we're going to do this.
1:34:24
SPEAKER_01: We're going to do this and this and this.
1:34:26
SPEAKER_00: Remember when we told you that?
1:34:28
SPEAKER_00: So they're doing the Dragon Ball Z thing where you watch the same thing over and
1:34:31
SPEAKER_00: over 15 episodes straight in case you missed it.
1:34:34
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:34:35
SPEAKER_01: I just don't have the patience for that, right?
1:34:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:34:41
SPEAKER_01: So for like,
1:34:42
SPEAKER_01: just like I said,
1:34:43
SPEAKER_01: I gave some ideas of like what,
1:34:45
SPEAKER_01: like, you know, what to read if you want to get into Russian literature.
1:34:48
SPEAKER_01: I do recommend starting with Dostoevsky.
1:34:50
SPEAKER_01: If you want to get into anime, what I'm really enjoying is Doro Hidoro.
1:34:53
SPEAKER_01: It's my favorite one, period.
1:34:56
SPEAKER_01: Definitely Chainsaw Man.
1:34:57
SPEAKER_01: If you haven't seen, like these are like the peak new ones, man.
1:34:59
SPEAKER_01: If you haven't seen Chainsaw Man, you are wrong.
1:35:01
SPEAKER_01: Chainsaw Man is amazing.
1:35:03
SPEAKER_01: You are wrong.
1:35:04
SPEAKER_01: You are so wrong.
1:35:05
SPEAKER_01: Chase something is great.
1:35:07
SPEAKER_01: It's about a guy that turns and he gets chainsaws for hands and he fights people with them.
1:35:13
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:35:14
SPEAKER_01: And he's got this friend named Power who's a blood demon who refuses to bathe
1:35:18
SPEAKER_01: or flush the toilet.
1:35:19
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:35:20
SPEAKER_01: All right.
1:35:21
SPEAKER_01: She's amazing.
1:35:23
SPEAKER_00: It's like Army of Darkness but double plus good because there's two chainsaws.
1:35:27
SPEAKER_01: For the hardcore anime people, I just finished watching Neon Genesis Evangelion.
1:35:35
SPEAKER_01: It's good.
1:35:36
SPEAKER_01: It's good.
1:35:37
SPEAKER_01: It's very 90s.
1:35:41
SPEAKER_01: Genji being a weirdo and creeping up on Asuka while she was passed out or whatever.
1:35:48
SPEAKER_01: It's good.
1:35:49
SPEAKER_01: I also started watching Ergo Proxy.
1:35:52
SPEAKER_01: I said that Ergo Proxy is like a cyberpunk kind of anime.
1:35:56
SPEAKER_01: The cyberpunk anime itself is fantastic and
1:35:58
SPEAKER_01: the new season is coming out like next month, I think, or the month after.
1:36:02
SPEAKER_01: So we're going to have to do an episode.
1:36:05
SPEAKER_01: It's going to be on Netflix, so you got to watch it.
1:36:07
SPEAKER_01: We'll do a whole episode on the new cyberpunk.
1:36:11
SPEAKER_01: You've seen the old one, right?
1:36:11
SPEAKER_01: The old anime?
1:36:14
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, say it one more time.
1:36:15
SPEAKER_01: Have you seen the original cyberpunk anime?
1:36:17
SPEAKER_00: The The original?
1:36:19
SPEAKER_01: No, I haven't.
1:36:20
SPEAKER_01: You haven't seen it?
1:36:20
SPEAKER_01: Okay, you should go watch it.
1:36:23
SPEAKER_01: It's on Netflix.
1:36:24
SPEAKER_01: It's cyberpunk.
1:36:25
SPEAKER_01: It's an anime.
1:36:26
SPEAKER_01: It's made by a Japanese studio, but it's CD Projekt Red, like worked on it.
1:36:32
SPEAKER_01: It's really dark.
1:36:33
SPEAKER_01: It's a prequel to the game.
1:36:35
SPEAKER_00: Got it.
1:36:36
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:36:36
SPEAKER_00: Wait.
1:36:38
SPEAKER_00: Well, wait, you're not talking about Edgerunners, right?
1:36:39
SPEAKER_01: Edgerunners, yeah, yeah.
1:36:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, dude, I told you about that.
1:36:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, okay, yeah,
1:36:42
SPEAKER_01: you told me, yeah,
1:36:43
SPEAKER_01: I'm like,
1:36:44
SPEAKER_00: is this some special thing that, like, from the 80s that I don't know about?
1:36:46
SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, so there's a...
1:36:49
SPEAKER_00: Man, I told you about that.
1:36:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the second season comes out next month, I think, or the month after.
1:36:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I heard about that, I heard about that.
1:36:56
SPEAKER_01: So we'll do an episode on that.
1:36:58
SPEAKER_01: If you like Edge Runners, you would like Dorohedoro.
1:37:03
SPEAKER_01: Go watch Dorohedoro, blow your mind.
1:37:06
SPEAKER_01: Ergo Proxy is really good.
1:37:08
SPEAKER_01: I just watched the first few episodes.
1:37:10
SPEAKER_01: It's kind of a Blade Runner-ish kind of thing.
1:37:14
SPEAKER_01: And then what else?
1:37:16
SPEAKER_01: I started watching this silly one called High Rise.
1:37:18
SPEAKER_01: It's about this.
1:37:19
SPEAKER_01: I just watched the first episode and it's about this girl and she's stuck in this group.
1:37:23
SPEAKER_01: Like she's a little school girl and she's stuck in this world
1:37:25
SPEAKER_01: where like it's just you're on high rises and they're connected,
1:37:29
SPEAKER_01: but you can't leave the high rise,
1:37:30
SPEAKER_01: but you can go from like a suspension bridge, suspension bridge.
1:37:33
SPEAKER_01: And he's like, you know, and there's these guys wearing masks trying to kill her, you know?
1:37:38
SPEAKER_01: Um, Colton Scott asks, is there any 2077 books from the 80s?
1:37:43
SPEAKER_01: There is not.
1:37:44
SPEAKER_01: But I mean, from the 80s, you can read.
1:37:46
SPEAKER_01: If you're into cyberpunk,
1:37:48
SPEAKER_01: the genre,
1:37:49
SPEAKER_01: might as well start with the cyberpunk novel,
1:37:52
SPEAKER_01: the one that invented the genre, which is...
1:37:56
SPEAKER_01: Neuromancer and you can read Neuromancer and it's two sequels.
1:38:00
SPEAKER_01: They're like not true sequels.
1:38:02
SPEAKER_01: They're like the same world, but not like connected in any way.
1:38:07
SPEAKER_01: Neuromancer is the key.
1:38:08
SPEAKER_01: There's Snow Crash, which is like another kind of cyberpunk kind of novel.
1:38:12
SPEAKER_01: You can,
1:38:13
SPEAKER_01: if you want to get into like the more gamey stuff,
1:38:16
SPEAKER_01: there's like a lot of Shadowrun novels,
1:38:18
SPEAKER_01: which are kind of cyberpunk, but there's like magic and shit involved.
1:38:23
SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of,
1:38:24
SPEAKER_01: There's some cyberpunk 2077 novels written recently,
1:38:31
SPEAKER_01: kind of around the game world, but they're not very good, I don't think.
1:38:35
SPEAKER_01: I tried reading one, and I was like, that's not really my cup of tea.
1:38:39
SPEAKER_01: But if you like reading tie-in media, it might be good.
1:38:43
SPEAKER_01: But I think the best kind of cyberpunk stuff, if you really like...
1:38:47
SPEAKER_01: Just jonesing for that cyberpunk kind of crap sack world is to read Neuromancer and
1:38:52
SPEAKER_01: the William Gibson stuff.
1:38:53
SPEAKER_01: And then I do,
1:38:55
SPEAKER_01: I do recommend, um,
1:38:57
SPEAKER_01: like reading stuff like,
1:38:59
SPEAKER_01: um, um, watching like, uh, it's Neuromancer, not a movie was announced.
1:39:05
SPEAKER_01: It's an Apple TV show.
1:39:06
SPEAKER_01: And I saw the preview for it.
1:39:07
SPEAKER_01: It looks all right.
1:39:08
SPEAKER_01: I will.
1:39:10
SPEAKER_01: I don't want to say it looks great or bad, you know?
1:39:13
SPEAKER_01: Um, It looks all right.
1:39:15
SPEAKER_01: At least they made Case of White Guy,
1:39:17
SPEAKER_01: which I,
1:39:18
SPEAKER_01: you know,
1:39:18
SPEAKER_01: I was shocked that they made Case of White Guy,
1:39:20
SPEAKER_01: but of course they made Molly Millions like some kind of,
1:39:25
SPEAKER_01: you know, not white person.
1:39:28
SPEAKER_01: Which, like I said,
1:39:30
SPEAKER_01: like the one thing about like the genre of like cyberpunk,
1:39:33
SPEAKER_01: it's like it can be kind of woke or it can look woke.
1:39:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's not that big of a deal yet.
1:39:37
SPEAKER_00: It's all transhuman like.
1:39:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's all transgender crap anyways, right?
1:39:41
SPEAKER_01: So, like,
1:39:41
SPEAKER_01: it's a genre that I'm okay with,
1:39:43
SPEAKER_01: like, you know, chicks with dicks and stuff like that.
1:39:45
SPEAKER_01: It makes perfect sense in that world, you know?
1:39:47
SPEAKER_01: Because it usually shows the, like, you know, like, yeah, of course.
1:39:50
SPEAKER_01: Then you end up a freaking cyberpsycho, you know?
1:39:53
SPEAKER_01: I think...
1:39:54
SPEAKER_01: Colton Scott, if I ever dabbled with biopunk, I think biopunk is gay.
1:39:58
SPEAKER_01: I think any of the other punk stuff is just gay.
1:40:00
SPEAKER_01: Like steampunk is absolutely gay.
1:40:03
SPEAKER_01: I cannot stand it.
1:40:04
SPEAKER_01: It pisses me off.
1:40:05
SPEAKER_01: Everything about it like makes me angry.
1:40:07
SPEAKER_01: People that were into the steampunk, I just want to punch them in the nuts.
1:40:10
SPEAKER_01: Like I just, I hate them, you know?
1:40:14
SPEAKER_01: I just, I hate like, or like.
1:40:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I never got the appeal.
1:40:17
SPEAKER_01: I hate when people like add like, like.
1:40:19
SPEAKER_01: Cyberpunk works great because it's like punk is like really trashy losers,
1:40:23
SPEAKER_01: you know, living in like the grimy losers, right?
1:40:27
SPEAKER_01: And then like,
1:40:29
SPEAKER_01: you know,
1:40:31
SPEAKER_01: cyber because it's like deals with like cyber,
1:40:33
SPEAKER_01: you know, technology, the net, like implants and stuff.
1:40:37
SPEAKER_01: So it makes sense.
1:40:38
SPEAKER_01: But then you're like, you're like, Steampunk, and it's Professor fucking Retardo, you know?
1:40:44
SPEAKER_01: And it's like, shut up, dude.
1:40:45
SPEAKER_01: Like, get the fuck out of here.
1:40:46
SPEAKER_01: I hate you, you know?
1:40:47
SPEAKER_00: Also, Japan exists.
1:40:49
SPEAKER_00: If you want cyberpunk, you just go to Asia.
1:40:51
SPEAKER_00: And it's like, oh, neat.
1:40:53
SPEAKER_00: Steampunk?
1:40:55
SPEAKER_00: Ain't nobody fucking doing that.
1:40:56
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
1:40:57
SPEAKER_01: I guess Doro Hedoro is kind of like a – not really cyberpunk.
1:41:00
SPEAKER_01: There's no like cyber.
1:41:01
SPEAKER_01: It's like magic punk or whatever.
1:41:02
SPEAKER_01: But I just kind of hate that whole – it's like grime, grime punk.
1:41:07
SPEAKER_01: Snow Crash was cool.
1:41:08
SPEAKER_01: Snow Crash has hero protagonist and it's an interesting kind of 90s cyberpunk novel.
1:41:15
SPEAKER_01: I really like – I think there's a lot of good anime like Ghost in the Shell.
1:41:20
SPEAKER_01: There's Akira.
1:41:21
SPEAKER_01: There you go.
1:41:23
SPEAKER_01: Anime has a lot of like cyberpunk type stuff.
1:41:26
SPEAKER_01: I would say Ergo Proxy, but I haven't finished it.
1:41:29
SPEAKER_01: There's a few other ones that are like from the 2000 era that kind of kept it.
1:41:33
SPEAKER_01: I don't think The Matrix is cyberpunk.
1:41:35
SPEAKER_01: I think The Matrix looks like cyberpunk, but is not true cyberpunk.
1:41:40
SPEAKER_01: It doesn't really deal with...
1:41:43
SPEAKER_01: I think the movie...
1:41:47
SPEAKER_01: I think the movie Demolition Man with Sandra Bullock
1:41:51
SPEAKER_01: and Sylvester Stallone is more cyberpunk than The Matrix because it deals with
1:41:59
SPEAKER_01: the real world.
1:42:00
SPEAKER_01: The Matrix is too outside the real world for it to really count as cyberpunk in my opinion.
1:42:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's more science fiction.
1:42:06
SPEAKER_00: It is more science fiction.
1:42:07
SPEAKER_01: It's more far out there.
1:42:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because with cyberpunk, the reality they inhabit, that is actually reality.
1:42:15
SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
1:42:16
SPEAKER_01: And I think that Demolition Man is the most – it's the evil Democrat future, man.
1:42:22
SPEAKER_01: It's like that – it's probably the most – Out of all the future prediction movies,
1:42:27
SPEAKER_01: The Demolition Man predicted everything the best
1:42:30
SPEAKER_01: because our world has become like annoyingly fake and gay.
1:42:34
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean, right?
1:42:35
SPEAKER_01: Like you can't smoke.
1:42:36
SPEAKER_01: You can't do anything.
1:42:37
SPEAKER_01: Nobody has a lot to even have sex anymore.
1:42:40
SPEAKER_01: You know, it's just completely fake and gay.
1:42:42
SPEAKER_00: That's the one with Taco Bell in it.
1:42:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the one Taco Bell in
1:42:45
SPEAKER_01: it, right.
1:42:46
SPEAKER_01: Demolition Man was a masterpiece, you know, and I think Sandra Bullock is hot or was hot.
1:42:52
SPEAKER_00: Are we going to do a Demolition Man episode?
1:42:53
SPEAKER_00: Because I missed...
1:42:55
SPEAKER_00: I missed the Total Recall episode.
1:42:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, let's do it.
1:43:00
SPEAKER_01: Hey, Lisa needs to...
1:43:03
SPEAKER_01: Does Lisa like Demolition Man?
1:43:04
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure she's seen Demolition Man.
1:43:05
SPEAKER_00: Of course she does.
1:43:06
SPEAKER_00: It's Lisa.
1:43:06
SPEAKER_00: Are you kidding?
1:43:07
SPEAKER_00: She's probably watching it right now.
1:43:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:43:10
SPEAKER_00: She just has it on.
1:43:12
SPEAKER_01: Judge Dredd.
1:43:13
SPEAKER_01: Oh, Judge Dredd.
1:43:14
SPEAKER_01: That was cool.
1:43:15
SPEAKER_01: The Sylvester Stallone Judge Dredd was pretty good.
1:43:17
SPEAKER_01: I actually think that the recent one was really good.
1:43:20
SPEAKER_01: The one where he's basically in Kowloon high-rise.
1:43:27
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm talking about?
1:43:29
SPEAKER_01: It's with the guy that played the new...
1:43:32
SPEAKER_01: The new Bones, right?
1:43:34
SPEAKER_01: And the bad guy, Carl Urban, right?
1:43:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Carl Urban.
1:43:38
SPEAKER_01: And the bad guy was Cersei from Game of Thrones.
1:43:42
SPEAKER_01: She was the bad guy in that one.
1:43:46
SPEAKER_00: I love Escape from New York and LA.
1:43:50
SPEAKER_01: We still have to do a Big Trouble in Little China episode where we have to bring
1:43:53
SPEAKER_01: a librarian back.
1:43:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man.
1:43:55
SPEAKER_01: Because he wrote that great article.
1:43:58
SPEAKER_00: I would love a Big Trouble episode.
1:44:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:44:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we got some more movie episodes.
1:44:04
SPEAKER_00: I think Demolition Man would be a great one to start with and then you can get it.
1:44:07
SPEAKER_00: Demolition Man is great.
1:44:08
SPEAKER_01: We'll schedule that one, right?
1:44:09
SPEAKER_01: Demolition Man is great.
1:44:10
SPEAKER_01: Like I said, I think it like captured, that's one that like, that's one of the three seashells.
1:44:16
SPEAKER_01: Like what's the three seashells or whatever.
1:44:19
SPEAKER_01: Nobody told them about the three seashells.
1:44:20
SPEAKER_01: It's got Wesley Snipes in it.
1:44:22
SPEAKER_01: It's so good.
1:44:23
SPEAKER_01: It's like Wesley Snipes like, you know, Peek Snipes.
1:44:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Peek Snipes playing like Dennis Rodman basically as a character, you know?
1:44:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:44:33
SPEAKER_01: I mean, another great movie from that era that's like really,
1:44:36
SPEAKER_01: really peak is Fifth Element, right?
1:44:39
SPEAKER_01: Or Sixth Element or Fifth Element?
1:44:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Fifth Element, right?
1:44:42
SPEAKER_01: That's a great, great episode.
1:44:43
SPEAKER_01: It's a great movie, you know?
1:44:44
SPEAKER_01: It's very interesting.
1:44:48
SPEAKER_01: One of my favorite movies.
1:44:49
SPEAKER_01: It's a good one.
1:44:51
SPEAKER_01: I feel like it,
1:44:52
SPEAKER_01: you know,
1:44:53
SPEAKER_01: it was kind of around the same era-ish, Demolition Man and Fifth Element, kind of.
1:44:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, probably.
1:44:59
SPEAKER_01: Same kind of era?
1:45:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:45:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it will it's it's that era.
1:45:02
SPEAKER_00: It's that era of
1:45:07
SPEAKER_00: just very colorful, almost almost circusy science fiction.
1:45:11
SPEAKER_01: Right,
1:45:12
SPEAKER_01: Well, Fifth Element is interesting because it was based off of a lot
1:45:15
SPEAKER_01: of European comic book vibes.
1:45:17
SPEAKER_01: What was that Morbius guy, right?
1:45:18
SPEAKER_00: Or no, Mobius.
1:45:19
SPEAKER_00: Mobius, yeah.
1:45:21
SPEAKER_01: And that's what it was a lot of the vibes.
1:45:23
SPEAKER_01: And I think it was like a joint French studio and that kind of stuff.
1:45:28
SPEAKER_00: So it had to like- You know what's funny?
1:45:30
SPEAKER_00: I had a short Mobius phase ages ago.
1:45:32
SPEAKER_00: This kind of blows my mind and this is sort of some deep lore.
1:45:37
SPEAKER_00: But he did a Halo comic once.
1:45:39
SPEAKER_00: Hmm.
1:45:40
SPEAKER_00: Like, like Bungie did Bungie did like this,
1:45:42
SPEAKER_00: this really super limited edition,
1:45:45
SPEAKER_00: like four comics and like a graphic novel and Mobius did one of them.
1:45:50
SPEAKER_00: And if you could imagine like fifth element as a Halo comic,
1:45:53
SPEAKER_00: it's like, it was, I mean, it was cool.
1:45:59
SPEAKER_00: And everybody was like, we can't believe we got Mobius to do a fucking Halo comic.
1:46:04
SPEAKER_01: Well, so if you like that kind of
1:46:06
SPEAKER_01: crazy Mobius vibe, you will like Dorohedoro.
1:46:12
SPEAKER_01: That's kind of what it looks like.
1:46:14
SPEAKER_01: And it has that feeling of that weird, kind of like, what the hell is going on here?
1:46:19
SPEAKER_00: It's like it's barely holding together.
1:46:21
SPEAKER_00: Right, everything's falling apart.
1:46:25
SPEAKER_01: It's like psychedelic at the same time.
1:46:27
SPEAKER_01: It's just going to melt away.
1:46:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so if you like that, Dorohedoro, it's on Netflix.
1:46:34
SPEAKER_01: It's freaking mad.
1:46:36
SPEAKER_01: It's amazing.
1:46:37
SPEAKER_01: It's one of those things where you're like, okay, I see exactly why anime is out there.
1:46:43
SPEAKER_01: And then like peak, you know what I mean?
1:46:45
SPEAKER_01: And of course, I do recommend Freyren.
1:46:48
SPEAKER_01: And Freyren's like the more fantasy story kind of basic thing, but it's
1:46:54
SPEAKER_00: deep, you
1:46:54
SPEAKER_01: know?
1:46:55
SPEAKER_00: You just gave me a good idea.
1:46:56
SPEAKER_00: Just gave me a good idea.
1:46:56
SPEAKER_00: So one thing I was able to do this year Um,
1:47:00
SPEAKER_00: for school is, uh, my wife, they were moving, uh, offices.
1:47:05
SPEAKER_00: So I was able to score a bunch of furniture.
1:47:07
SPEAKER_00: So I've added a couch, like two nice big chairs and an electric fireplace to my, to my room.
1:47:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:47:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:47:15
SPEAKER_00: I sent you that picture, but I can probably set up, I could probably set up.
1:47:20
SPEAKER_00: So I have a,
1:47:21
SPEAKER_00: I have an auto or a, uh, like a,
1:47:22
SPEAKER_00: like a footrest,
1:47:24
SPEAKER_00: an Ottoman,
1:47:24
SPEAKER_00: or I don't know what you call it, but, um,
1:47:28
SPEAKER_00: I could probably set that up as like a TV stand or like a laptop stand and
1:47:31
SPEAKER_00: then watch anime on my break or after work and just like throw something on and
1:47:38
SPEAKER_00: then actually get through this stuff.
1:47:39
SPEAKER_00: Cause like now that I'm back at school,
1:47:40
SPEAKER_00: I'm a lot more,
1:47:41
SPEAKER_00: I'm a lot more,
1:47:42
SPEAKER_00: um, likely to actually look at things and not just, you know, what that'll be fun.
1:47:51
SPEAKER_00: And then,
1:47:52
SPEAKER_00: and then if some of it's cool,
1:47:53
SPEAKER_00: I can, I can be like, Hey kids, You want to watch a guy with a chainsaw for arms?
1:47:58
SPEAKER_01: Let's go.
1:47:59
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
1:48:01
SPEAKER_01: That's kind of rated R-ish.
1:48:02
SPEAKER_01: I'm teasing.
1:48:03
SPEAKER_01: Be careful with a lot of this stuff.
1:48:04
SPEAKER_01: No, I know.
1:48:04
SPEAKER_00: I have a strict real felony policy, so don't worry about that.
1:48:09
SPEAKER_01: They're at high school.
1:48:11
SPEAKER_01: In the chat,
1:48:12
SPEAKER_01: Johnny is asking,
1:48:13
SPEAKER_01: What was that 80s cartoon fifth element pulled a lot of elements from...
1:48:16
SPEAKER_01: And it's heavy metal, right?
1:48:18
SPEAKER_01: It is heavy metal.
1:48:19
SPEAKER_01: And heavy metal...
1:48:22
SPEAKER_01: So it was an 80s movie, right?
1:48:24
SPEAKER_01: But that's not what it's really from.
1:48:27
SPEAKER_01: It's from this magazine called Heavy Metal, right?
1:48:30
SPEAKER_01: And in Europe, it was called Metal Hurant.
1:48:32
SPEAKER_01: And it's basically this really crazy art comic magazine.
1:48:38
SPEAKER_01: It just like...
1:48:40
SPEAKER_01: It's just, it was wild.
1:48:42
SPEAKER_01: Just wild stuff.
1:48:42
SPEAKER_01: Like look up Heavy Metal Magazine or Metal Herent Magazine.
1:48:46
SPEAKER_01: And a lot of, Mobius did a lot of art for it.
1:48:51
SPEAKER_01: Lisa spelled it right, but I might not be saying it.
1:48:54
SPEAKER_01: Metal Herent, which I think, I guess it means heavy metal.
1:48:57
SPEAKER_01: But it had a bunch of crazy stuff in it.
1:49:00
SPEAKER_01: It's very like a unique art style and a unique art vibe.
1:49:04
SPEAKER_01: And Dorohedoro, like Lisa, if you like That's what Dora Hedora takes from also.
1:49:10
SPEAKER_01: So it has that exact kind of insane look.
1:49:15
SPEAKER_01: The movie, the 80s movie, Heavy Metal, was kind of an anthology movie.
1:49:20
SPEAKER_01: It's like four or five stories that were kind of different styles.
1:49:25
SPEAKER_01: And they're all tied together by this evil orb that when this evil orb comes to
1:49:31
SPEAKER_01: where you are, it turns into like crap, right?
1:49:36
SPEAKER_01: There's this great one where it's like bombers flying,
1:49:39
SPEAKER_01: like World War II bombers flying, dropping bombs or whatever.
1:49:43
SPEAKER_01: An orb kind of flies down and all the pilots turn into zombies and shit and crash.
1:49:49
SPEAKER_01: It's really great stuff.
1:49:50
SPEAKER_01: There's this weird space alien one.
1:49:52
SPEAKER_01: There's a hot girl.
1:49:54
SPEAKER_01: Red Sonja flying on this weird dragon and she's fighting freaking mutants.
1:50:03
SPEAKER_01: It's just really crazy stuff, man.
1:50:05
SPEAKER_01: It's worth watching.
1:50:07
SPEAKER_01: It's
1:50:09
SPEAKER_00: out there.
1:50:09
SPEAKER_01: It reads like a curvy- You said it's got two seasons?
1:50:14
SPEAKER_01: Dora Hedora only has two seasons, yeah.
1:50:15
SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
1:50:18
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I highly recommend Dora Hedora.
1:50:20
SPEAKER_01: If you haven't watched Heavy Metal, the movie, watch that.
1:50:23
SPEAKER_01: It's an American.
1:50:23
SPEAKER_01: It's not anime.
1:50:24
SPEAKER_01: It's an American-French.
1:50:26
SPEAKER_01: Oh, and I'm sorry.
1:50:26
SPEAKER_01: It's a French-American-Canadian combination, I think.
1:50:31
SPEAKER_01: And then if you Google...
1:50:32
SPEAKER_01: Heavy Metal Magazine or Metal Herland, Herland or whatever, you'll see a bunch of Mobius art.
1:50:38
SPEAKER_01: A quick thing, you guys know Brad Kelly, he uses his little icon or whatever.
1:50:45
SPEAKER_01: That's a Mobius drawing,
1:50:47
SPEAKER_01: like the little dude sitting, he's like a soothsayer, magician kind of guy.
1:50:53
SPEAKER_01: That's actually a Mobius art.
1:50:55
SPEAKER_01: That's a famous one.
1:50:58
SPEAKER_01: You'll see he did a lot of stuff for like Dune also.
1:51:01
SPEAKER_01: So a lot of stuff looks like Dune.
1:51:03
SPEAKER_01: It's like really, it's really cool stuff though.
1:51:05
SPEAKER_01: But man, Mobius is the shit.
1:51:08
SPEAKER_01: All right.
1:51:08
SPEAKER_01: So definitely if you're not familiar with that stuff, look it up.
1:51:12
SPEAKER_01: It's good stuff, man.
1:51:13
SPEAKER_01: Like it's out there crazy back when Americans used to be interesting.
1:51:18
SPEAKER_01: And I definitely recommend Dora Hedora.
1:51:20
SPEAKER_01: But I will call it a night tonight because I got to put my daughter to sleep
1:51:22
SPEAKER_01: because I got to take her to school tomorrow.
1:51:24
SPEAKER_01: How exciting is that?
1:51:25
SPEAKER_01: She's going to...
1:51:27
SPEAKER_01: She's going to go start school again.
1:51:31
SPEAKER_01: The good thing is now she'll be able to go to bed early so I can actually have time
1:51:36
SPEAKER_01: to watch shows and stuff after she falls asleep.
1:51:38
SPEAKER_01: Nice.
1:51:41
SPEAKER_01: All right, guys.
1:51:42
SPEAKER_01: So good night.
1:51:43
SPEAKER_01: I hope you guys enjoyed the show.
1:51:44
SPEAKER_01: We covered all the questions.
1:51:45
SPEAKER_01: I hope so.
1:51:46
SPEAKER_01: We did go on a nice liquor liqueur diversion, right?
1:51:51
SPEAKER_01: We discussed books and anime and Russian literature and yeah, all the good stuff.
1:52:00
SPEAKER_01: All right.
1:52:00
SPEAKER_01: So thanks, guys.
1:52:02
SPEAKER_01: Please, when we do put out this episode, Oh, you know what?
1:52:06
SPEAKER_01: I'm not going to tell you, Lisa.
1:52:07
SPEAKER_01: I'm just not going to tell you.
1:52:09
SPEAKER_01: Not yet.
1:52:10
SPEAKER_01: All right.
1:52:11
SPEAKER_01: I'll talk about that when I'm more ready.
1:52:13
SPEAKER_01: We've been going on for three hours, dude.
1:52:20
SPEAKER_01: I would do more today, but I do got to put my daughter.
1:52:23
SPEAKER_01: You know what?
1:52:24
SPEAKER_01: I'll talk about my book next time.
1:52:25
SPEAKER_01: We'll talk about my book next time.
1:52:28
SPEAKER_01: It's about the South Pacific.
1:52:31
SPEAKER_01: And shamanism.
1:52:35
SPEAKER_00: The Alexandru Beaver Dream.
1:52:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:52:39
SPEAKER_01: It's basically the Magic Mountain, but in the South Pacific.
1:52:44
SPEAKER_01: That's actually a good way to describe how the Magic Mountain in the South Pacific or the Magus.
1:52:50
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, definitely go ahead and watch Dorohedoro.
1:52:54
SPEAKER_01: I recommend it.
1:52:55
SPEAKER_01: Watch Heavy Metal or look up the art.
1:52:58
SPEAKER_01: It's fantastic.
1:52:58
SPEAKER_01: I'll post some of the art, actually.
1:53:00
SPEAKER_01: I'll post some art stuff.
1:53:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man.
1:53:01
SPEAKER_01: But for you, Fisto, and for Lisa, and Colton, everybody, Netflix, Dorohedoro.
1:53:07
SPEAKER_01: It's about a lizard, and it's trying to figure out who turned him into a lizard.
1:53:10
SPEAKER_01: But it's so much more.
1:53:12
SPEAKER_01: It's so much more.
1:53:14
SPEAKER_01: And for Colton, enjoy 2077.
1:53:17
SPEAKER_01: Judy is the proper girlfriend, not Panem, okay?
1:53:21
SPEAKER_01: Judy Artho, be a vitalist, right?
1:53:24
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:53:25
SPEAKER_01: No.
1:53:26
SPEAKER_01: I think Dorodoro is not on Crunchyroll.
1:53:29
SPEAKER_01: Maybe in Canadian Crunchyroll, but I don't think it's on American Crunchyroll.
1:53:32
SPEAKER_01: I think Netflix has it kind of locked down.
1:53:36
SPEAKER_01: All right, my dudes.
1:53:37
SPEAKER_01: You guys have a wonderful night.
1:53:38
SPEAKER_01: I will see you next week.
1:53:41
SPEAKER_01: Good night, everybody.
1:53:42
SPEAKER_01: See you, guys.