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The My Pillow Guy Election Documentary Pt. 1 · Conspiracy! The Show

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Speaker 1: Winter Insurance.
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Speaker 2: I'm a check.
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Speaker 3: The Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy the Show.
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Speaker 2: I'm Adam Todd Brown. Who are you.
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Speaker 1: I'm Olivia Hidar.
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Speaker 2: And we are your damn hosts. Olivia. How excited are
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Speaker 2: you for this week's topic?
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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so damn excited. I am. I'm just like
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Speaker 1: over the moon about watching this wonderful thing that exists.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're covering the My Pillow Guy documentary, as I
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Speaker 2: have taken to calling it. I think it's called that
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Speaker 2: absolute proof.
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Speaker 1: We should specify we are watching the first of three
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Speaker 1: My Pillow Guy documentaries that were released in the last
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Speaker 1: five months. So that's that's the one we're watching. If
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Speaker 1: you want to watch along at home.
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Speaker 2: That's a lot. But also he has a very loose
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Speaker 2: definition of the term documentary.
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Speaker 1: Oh oh, that's for damn sure.
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Speaker 2: Yes, And I should mention we've done a lot of
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Speaker 2: episodes lately, just covering like documentaries and TV shows. And
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Speaker 2: I should explain I in the past month have gotten
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Speaker 2: married and.
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Speaker 1: Oh hey, congrats.
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Speaker 2: Also am moving this month, so my research time is
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Speaker 2: a little limited. After I move and get settled, we'll
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Speaker 2: get back to things that aren't But I mean also
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Speaker 2: when we do stuff like this, you can just go
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Speaker 2: watch the source material and it's only going to take
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Speaker 2: you two hours. You want to go read that Jonestown
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Speaker 2: book that I did, not episodes about good Luck. It's
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Speaker 2: like reading the fucking Patriot Act. It's so long.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I dare you to watch this thing instead of
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Speaker 1: listening to us good Luck.
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Speaker 2: I dare you to even find it by googling. That
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Speaker 2: was a chore. And we're going to talk about that part.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: If there's any any part of this that I kind
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Speaker 2: of agree with, it's the complaints about stuff getting buried. Granted,
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Speaker 2: this is a thing that's getting buried that will probably
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Speaker 2: erode our democracy completely someday. So I'm kind of alright
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Speaker 2: with this being buried from public view.
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Speaker 1: It's like, you know, you gotta bury a corpse, yeah,
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Speaker 1: or else is kind of steak up the place. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: some things you just gotta bury.
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Speaker 2: You just gotta hie them away.
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Speaker 1: I will say, yeah, you you had to do some
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Speaker 1: crazy searching to find a place where you can watch this,
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Speaker 1: and boy did you find a place that is.
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Speaker 2: Uh Oh, I've weird, weird. I've been way too scared
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Speaker 2: to venture out more onto that such.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, very strange. I have not done much venturing myself
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Speaker 1: because I don't want to get put on any more
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Speaker 1: watch lists that I'm already on. It's called rumble, Yeah, rumble.
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Speaker 1: It's it seems to be some sort of right wing
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Speaker 1: file sharing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure we're both on a Trump mailing list.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jesus, that might explain some of the weirdest texts
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Speaker 1: I've gotten today. But yeah, no, this thing fucking sucked ass.
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Speaker 1: I just want to say that upfront. And I've said
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Speaker 1: this a couple of times when it comes to things
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Speaker 1: that we've watched on this show, but I think, for real,
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Speaker 1: this might be the worst thing I've watched for this show.
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Speaker 2: It's very frustrating, that's for sure. Mike Lindell has a
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Speaker 2: loose definition of the word documentary. For one thing, this
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Speaker 2: is like a two hour talk show. It's a documentary.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. It is like other right wing crackpot videos that
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Speaker 1: we've watched in the past. It is presenting the veneer
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Speaker 1: of uh news like cable news stylings and doing it
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Speaker 1: very poorly. And it just it has the vibe of
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Speaker 1: sitting next to a really drunk guy on like a
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Speaker 1: greyhound bus and him just never stopping talking for the
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Speaker 1: entire bus ride. That's the basic vibe.
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Speaker 2: I do appreciate his enthusiasm because he man, he really Yeah,
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Speaker 2: the the things that he will stop the person who's
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Speaker 2: talking over to cut in with it's just no, I
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Speaker 2: want to I want to stop here. Did you hear
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Speaker 2: what he said? Worse than you could imagine? That's proof.
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Speaker 2: It's like, none of this is proof.
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Speaker 1: He's he also, for one thing, sounds like like jesse
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Speaker 1: Ventura's like debased clone, like some clone that has like melted,
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Speaker 1: and it's you know, not quite jesse Ventura, but almost.
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Speaker 1: And he also, uh, he needs to learn how to
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Speaker 1: let people say the shocking information before interjecting with wow,
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Speaker 1: that's so shocking, which just happens all the time, like
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Speaker 1: they're ramping up. The guy whoever he's talking to is
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Speaker 1: like ramping up to their supposed revelation. In the middle
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Speaker 1: of the revelation, he's like, Wow, whoa, whoa, that's crazy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a site to behold. The opening of this
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Speaker 2: documentary yeah is uh, it's smart because most people are
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Speaker 2: only going to watch like the first fifteen minutes because
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Speaker 2: he lays out pretty much everything that he covers in
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Speaker 2: this thing in the first fifteen minutes.
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Speaker 1: No totally, did you see? So this aired only once
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Speaker 1: on any sort of non weird fishing site streaming thing,
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Speaker 1: and it was on the One America Network, the Trump
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Speaker 1: you know work sure, and they had to put a
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Speaker 1: I'm not kidding it has to be a two hundred
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Speaker 1: word disclaimer in front of it, read by a guy
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Speaker 1: like saying, this this is we're airing this, but this
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Speaker 1: doesn't have anything to do with the views of One
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Speaker 1: America Network, the craziest crazy channel that there ever has been.
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Speaker 1: But this this is a little too much for us.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna you need to know that we are not
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Speaker 1: condoning this in any way. It just goes over and
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Speaker 1: over separating themselves. Then why even air it? But you
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Speaker 1: know that's that's the right wing mentality.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know if that site is backing off
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Speaker 2: the claims in this, then holy shit. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean that's and that is the pervasive feeling that
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Speaker 1: you get throughout the entire is like this is stuff
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Speaker 1: that even the craziest people know not to is like
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Speaker 1: too dumb to be real.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's one of my main problems with this. As
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Speaker 2: I started watching it. I was like, well, this is
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Speaker 2: going to have to be two episodes because there's something
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Speaker 2: they bring up, something that has already been debunked, like
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Speaker 2: every two minutes. Yeah, Like they're just throwing these facts
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Speaker 2: out that are not facts, they are things that have
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Speaker 2: been investigated and proven to be false in most cases.
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Speaker 2: It's very frustrating.
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Speaker 1: It is exceptionally frustrating.
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Speaker 2: And so he goes through this first part where he's
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Speaker 2: like just putting all these charts up with all these
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Speaker 2: ridiculous claims and saying he's going to prove all this,
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Speaker 2: and then he gets into this bit about how there
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Speaker 2: were two miracles in this election. The first is that
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Speaker 2: all the states shut down that's a quote, yeah, which
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Speaker 2: was proof that Trump was getting way more votes than
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Speaker 2: the cheaters expected, and thus they had to recalibrate their
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Speaker 2: cheating software, right and Olivia. If that didn't happen, the
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Speaker 2: Lord would have never been able to show us that
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Speaker 2: so much fraud occurred in this documentary miracle.
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Speaker 1: Of course, Yeah, no, obviously the work of a higher
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Speaker 1: power theyre. I do remember we definitely have talked about
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Speaker 1: that in a previous episode. That whole concept, it is
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Speaker 1: the most Trump like explanation for you know why there
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Speaker 1: was voter fraud that there could be. It's like, oh, well,
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Speaker 1: there were just so many more votes for Trump that
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Speaker 1: they had to shut it down and figure out how
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Speaker 1: to cheat him a different way because it was overwhelming force.
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Speaker 2: And it's like, that doesn't sound like Trump at all.
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Speaker 2: And also that claim isn't true. Well no, obviously, Fulton County,
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Speaker 2: Georgia briefly paused counting the night of the election because
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Speaker 2: a water pipe burst at the facility where they were counting.
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Speaker 2: And that is one county, not the entire state North Carolina.
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Speaker 2: Because they're saying this happened in five battleground states, which
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Speaker 2: are North Carolina, Michigan, Wisconsin. I have them in the notes.
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Speaker 2: Why am I trying to make Georgia and Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia,
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Speaker 2: North Carolina, and Wisconsin North Carolina. The claim about North
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Speaker 2: Carolina is coming from the fact that on November three,
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Speaker 2: they stopped counting ballots once they had counted one hundred
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Speaker 2: percent of all the in person ballots. They didn't have
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Speaker 2: anything else they could county.
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Speaker 1: They stopped counting when they have reached the end of
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Speaker 1: the ballots. That's when you start over from the top.
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Speaker 2: Madness, absolute madness. Them. In states like Wisconsin, there were
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Speaker 2: laws that said they couldn't count mail in ballots until
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Speaker 2: the day of the election. So the claim there is, oh,
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Speaker 2: they got all these mail in ballots in one day.
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Speaker 2: It's like, no, fuck face. Some states could count them
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Speaker 2: before and other states couldn't. And because there was an
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Speaker 2: unprecedented number of mail in ballots, it took states longer
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Speaker 2: to report this time, and there were more mail in ballots,
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Speaker 2: not because of fraud, well, because of the fraud that
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Speaker 2: is COVID that's been perpetrated by the Libs, right.
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Speaker 1: Of course, which is a totally real conspiracy. That's a
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Speaker 1: separate thing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that, of course we all know is true, which,
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Speaker 2: by the way, we are joking it is not true.
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Speaker 2: People are fucking dying. So I'm probably not going to
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Speaker 2: be able to see Japanese breakfast in October over this.
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Speaker 2: Oh no, thanks, you fucking anti vax monsters.
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Speaker 1: Hey, at least I got to see old in theaters.
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Speaker 1: That's all I care about.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was all right with a green Knight possibly
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Speaker 2: being the last thing I see in theaters for a while.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one to go out on I
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Speaker 1: really need to get on it.
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Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun. So in the name
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Speaker 2: of explaining the second miracle of this election, because that
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Speaker 2: all that they stopped counting, that's the first miracle, because
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Speaker 2: then it gave them a door into discovering this fraud.
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Speaker 2: In the name of explaining the second miracle, he goes
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Speaker 2: through a bunch of charts with some very shocking numbers.
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Speaker 1: On them, shocking and how unsighted they are, shockingly few
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Speaker 1: proof examples. Oh, I'm shockingly making me forget how to talk,
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Speaker 1: is what it is.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's Mike Lindell rubbing off on you right there. Yeah, Jesus,
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Speaker 2: we'll get to some really fun quotes from that guy.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: But he goes through these all these charts for each
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Speaker 2: of these states where they claim there was fraud, and
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Speaker 2: there's all these wild statistics and not a single like
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Speaker 2: footnote that says here's where we got it from, right right,
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Speaker 2: I know a guy who says, yeah.
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Speaker 1: And also like, where are you ever gonna get the
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Speaker 1: numbers on the amount of illegal immigrants who voted in
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Speaker 1: the election. There's just that's not gonna be recorded anywhere.
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Speaker 1: Like it's like that's part of the census is the
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Speaker 1: amount of illegal immigrants who vote? How are you like,
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Speaker 1: I there's just literally again, we talked, we did a
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Speaker 1: whole thing on this, fucking on that fucking Italy thing. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm so fucking pissed off about this. We did a
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Speaker 1: whole episode on that goddamn Italy thing, which also comes
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Speaker 1: up in this. It's just I said it there. And
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Speaker 1: you just gotta apply the bare minimum of critical thinking
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Speaker 1: skills to any single thing that is said in this documentary,
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Speaker 1: and it completely falls apart under the least bit of scrutiny.
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Speaker 1: Like the numbers are so fucked up. On one of
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Speaker 1: the charts, they like have the number four thousand, and
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Speaker 1: they put the like comma after the four hundred part,
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Speaker 1: and it's like, well, that's like just not a number.
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Speaker 1: Then that's that's not how we signify things. I don't
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Speaker 1: know what that means.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this this is a claim that Trump and
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Speaker 2: his people have been pushing since twenty sixteen. Yeah, because
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Speaker 2: he lost the popular vote to Hillary Clinton, and he
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Speaker 2: claimed at the time that it was because eight hundred
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Speaker 2: thousand illegal immigrants voted in the election. Are there even
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Speaker 2: eight hundred thousand illegal immigrants of voting age in this
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Speaker 2: country because there's only I don't know the number, but
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Speaker 2: it's not as high as people think, right, No.
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Speaker 1: They couldn't be. That's like a small city's worth of people, Like.
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Speaker 2: So many people.
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Speaker 1: There's so many.
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Speaker 2: And in this case, the twenty twenty claims are based
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Speaker 2: on this one study that came out that was like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: sometimes non citizens register to vote and vote wrongly in
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Speaker 2: federal elections because in some states, if you're not a citizen,
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Speaker 2: you can vote in local elections. Yeah, in state elections,
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Speaker 2: you just can't vote for federal elections. And this report
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Speaker 2: came out that was like, yeah, it happened sometimes.
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Speaker 1: Well yeah, and while this shit happened, sometimes, it's the
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Speaker 1: same with dead people, you know, being registered to vote.
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Speaker 2: And conservatives took this one study and they were like, see,
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Speaker 2: see this study says it happens. And the people behind
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Speaker 2: that study were like, that's not what we were saying.
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Speaker 2: They were not saying that at all.
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Speaker 1: It's just so it's a recurring thing in especially modern
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Speaker 1: conservative politics, because I feel like it used to at
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Speaker 1: least be partially based in some sort of fact, but
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Speaker 1: like anymore, it's like they only reference a study if
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Speaker 1: it in some rare cases could very specifically like back
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Speaker 1: up their points and otherwise all of the mountains of
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Speaker 1: other studies are our nonsense, are are propaganda, it's whatever.
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Speaker 2: And then they get into some wild statistics about Georgia.
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Speaker 2: At one point, case in point, ten thousand dead people
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Speaker 2: voted in Georgia. Sure, the claims about Georgia are literally
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Speaker 2: just Republicans taking numbers and wildly inflating them. Case in point,
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Speaker 2: the ten thousand dead people who voted in Georgia, the
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Speaker 2: actual number is two. And this is a thing that
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Speaker 2: happens in elections, and a lot of times what it
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Speaker 2: comes down to is someone dies, but there's a family
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Speaker 2: member with the same or a very similar name, and
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Speaker 2: that person votes as usual, and sometimes that gets flagged
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Speaker 2: as oh, a dead person voted, right, it did not
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Speaker 2: happen ten thousand times in Georgia. In twenty twenty, it happened.
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Speaker 1: Twice again, so many people, and like I just it's
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Speaker 1: so frustrating to think about any of this, it really is,
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Speaker 1: for any amount of time, because it's so easily broken down.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's also the claim that thirty thousand people voted
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Speaker 2: in Georgia. And in another state that actual number is three.
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Speaker 1: Sure, the two in Georgia and one in another state.
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Speaker 2: There's a claim that sixty six thousand people under eighteen voted.
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Speaker 2: The actual number zero. Yeah, but three people did request
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Speaker 2: mail in ballots while they were still seventeen, but they
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Speaker 2: all turned eighteen before the election, which means they were
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Speaker 2: eligible to vote, of course. And on and on and on.
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Speaker 2: We'll link to articles that explain all of these points
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Speaker 2: and a bunch of other election fraud claims that have
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Speaker 2: come up about Georgia since November. And somehow we're also
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Speaker 2: still getting to what any of this has to do
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Speaker 2: with the second miracle of this election, which I can
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Speaker 2: promise you is not the sound at it.
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Speaker 1: Oh oh my god, Oh no, how who did this?
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Speaker 1: Who did this thing? It was so weird.
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Speaker 2: There were so many points where it was like that
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Speaker 2: thing that happened sometimes, especially on like the shittier cable networks,
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Speaker 2: where you'll be watching a show and it's very quiet
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Speaker 2: and a commercial comes on and it's like fifty decibels louder. Yes,
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Speaker 2: that was just happening throughout this documentary. His voice would
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Speaker 2: just get louder for no reason.
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Speaker 1: It's like instead of like a normal like uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: t shirt mic, you know for recording audio, they had
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Speaker 1: like a directional mic pinned to his jacket so that
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Speaker 1: whenever he would move even slightly, the variable tone of
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Speaker 1: his voice would change. And also the other weird thing
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Speaker 1: about the sound mixing and editing is at random points,
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Speaker 1: seemingly random. I honestly could not pick up a pattern
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Speaker 1: like threatening muse would fade in and play underneath whatever
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Speaker 1: is happening, and then fade out, and then at another
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Speaker 1: random point, the same threatening music would fade in.
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Speaker 2: It was very strange, no rhyme or reason to it. Anyway,
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Speaker 2: The miracle, as it turns out, is that if these
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Speaker 2: states didn't count all of these illegal votes and just
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Speaker 2: declared Trump the winner, then again we never would have
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Speaker 2: known about all of these attempts to steal the election.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
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Speaker 2: At this point, I feel like he's talking about two
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Speaker 2: different things because they keep bringing up for an intervention
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Speaker 2: and all of these countries, mainly China, which boy, don't
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Speaker 2: get me started on that claim, even though we're going
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Speaker 2: to talk about it in a.
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Speaker 1: Minute like we will, unfortunately have to get you started
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Speaker 1: on it.
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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, so Is it that the States conspired to
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Speaker 2: swing this election for Biden? Or was it another country
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Speaker 2: interfering with voting machines, because these are two completely different things.
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Speaker 1: Maybe both. Maybe maybe it was whoever was holding that
19:07
Speaker 1: hammer and sickle and pointing it at the sun for
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Speaker 1: that weird shot during some of this stuff that we're
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Speaker 1: talking about, lots of.
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Speaker 2: Cold War vibes in this. Oh man, maybe it.
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Speaker 1: Was I remember, I can't remember exactly what, but someone
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Speaker 1: throughout that some of the hacking was coming from Iran,
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, we're worried about Iran hacking us. That's
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Speaker 1: our concern. Now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we we ruined Iran and cybersecurity shit all the time.
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Speaker 2: We almost ended their nuclear program with a computer virus.
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Speaker 1: We eat their damn lunch every day of the week.
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Speaker 2: Iran's gonna steal our elections? Shot up. So I guess
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Speaker 2: the second miracle really is that this documentary exists. I
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Speaker 2: think that's kind of what he's getting that.
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Speaker 1: It truly is what a miracle. I mean, so many
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Speaker 1: things had to go right. You know, you had to
20:06
Speaker 1: get Pillowman kicked off of Twitter, and then he had
20:09
Speaker 1: to use his alt to post crazy shit, and that
20:12
Speaker 1: had to get kicked off of Twitter, and then he
20:14
Speaker 1: get fighting mad enough to spend the rest of his
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Speaker 1: money on this weird thing, and then he, I assume
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Speaker 1: kept the set, and I can only imagine that the
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Speaker 1: following two documentaries, which I'm guessing we will watch at
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Speaker 1: some point.
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Speaker 2: Oh, of course, we're just.
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Speaker 1: Gonna look like this. They're just gonna be this. It'll
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Speaker 1: probably be the exact thing, just remixed, chopped, and.
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Speaker 2: Screwed, provided we're allowed to watch it without like standing
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Speaker 2: inside an FBI vault with gloves on or something.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it will actually be watching it as sleep deprivation
20:50
Speaker 1: in Guantanamo. It'll be blaring at speakers.
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Speaker 2: Oh no, don't do that. Just play Pearl Jam to
20:59
Speaker 2: torture me.
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Speaker 1: That'll work and I would be down with it, So hey,
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Speaker 1: please do But I like, and I want to reiterate
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Speaker 1: throughout all of this, this guy sounds like he has
21:11
Speaker 1: been drinking whiskey every day for the last twenty years.
21:17
Speaker 1: He is just slurring every word that is possible to slur.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like his brain stopped developing in the
21:24
Speaker 2: eighties because everything he's saying is just about commies and Russia,
21:31
Speaker 2: and it's all got a really red scare appeal to it.
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Speaker 1: It's it's so it's so weird and funny and sad
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Speaker 1: that this guy loves Trump so much. Like I think
21:47
Speaker 1: that about most people who really love Trump, but this
21:49
Speaker 1: guy in particular is like so obviously has modeled his
21:54
Speaker 1: entire life around Trump, probably starting in the eighties, and
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Speaker 1: he just fucking loves him, and he will do anything
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Speaker 1: to get into his good graces and now and he
22:05
Speaker 1: has done that so much that now even Trump is
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Speaker 1: sick of him and will not take his calls.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. One of his biggest claims here is that Dominion,
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Speaker 2: the company that made a lot of the voting machines
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Speaker 2: for twenty twenty, is owned by a company with ties
22:21
Speaker 2: to the communist regime in China. Nope, I'm pretty sure
22:25
Speaker 2: by the time this documentary was made that claim had
22:29
Speaker 2: not only been one of the things that comes up
22:31
Speaker 2: in this I say it all the time too, is well,
22:33
Speaker 2: make sure who's debunking it before you just assume it's
22:37
Speaker 2: been debunked, in this case, debunked by the people who
22:40
Speaker 2: initially started the rumor. It Basically the claim is that
22:46
Speaker 2: a Chinese company invested four hundred million dollars in Dominion
22:50
Speaker 2: in October twenty twenty, so right before the election. And Nope,
22:54
Speaker 2: that was an American company with a name that is
22:57
Speaker 2: very similar to a Chinese company.
22:59
Speaker 1: Well, you know that that's an easy mistake to make.
23:03
Speaker 1: You'd have like you'd have to read it a couple
23:05
Speaker 1: times in order to make the to figure out the difference.
23:09
Speaker 2: The company, UBS Securities Co. Limited, is indeed based in
23:14
Speaker 2: Beijing and tied to the Chinese government. The company that
23:17
Speaker 2: invested in Dominion is UBS Securities Co LLC, which is
23:23
Speaker 2: a company based in Upstate New York.
23:25
Speaker 1: So sorry, these these things do sound similar. But also
23:31
Speaker 1: I think almost every fucking securities company or whatever fucking
23:36
Speaker 1: financial thing, they all have those weird, ominous sounding initials
23:41
Speaker 1: and like securities and then like a million different like
23:46
Speaker 1: things saying what type of business it is at the end.
23:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, the people who first spread this misinformation did themselves
23:54
Speaker 2: at one point come out and go, yep, we mixed
23:57
Speaker 2: up those companies.
23:58
Speaker 1: Whoop see, but trust everything else.
24:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, not that we're going to tell our followers that
24:03
Speaker 2: we fuck that up, but we will tell you USA
24:06
Speaker 2: today knowing that no one who follows us will ever
24:09
Speaker 2: read you because you're the fake mainstream meeting.
24:12
Speaker 1: I mean, to be fair, like most people don't read
24:15
Speaker 1: USA Today. I'm pretty sure they invented USA Today to
24:19
Speaker 1: line like, uh, bird cages and stuff.
24:22
Speaker 2: I do subscribe to Newsweek, though they're doing work these ways.
24:26
Speaker 1: I know you've sent me multiple Newsweek articles.
24:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're great. So here's the thing, Olivia, this massive
24:34
Speaker 2: fraud could only have happened with the help of domestic traders, right.
24:38
Speaker 1: Also, Yeah, they throw that around a lot in this
24:43
Speaker 1: and I.
24:43
Speaker 2: Think they're just kind of trying to preemptively explain away
24:48
Speaker 2: any limitations in the Oh, it was a foreign government
24:51
Speaker 2: that did it, right, right, Like, there's limits to that
24:55
Speaker 2: argument that we're going to get to. So then they
24:57
Speaker 2: can go, well, yeah, but also there's domestic traders, right
25:00
Speaker 2: who did it too, Like you're gonna name.
25:02
Speaker 1: Any or yeah, I mean, like, and domestic trader can
25:06
Speaker 1: refer to like any number of people doing any number
25:09
Speaker 1: of things based on how you just I mean, I'm
25:13
Speaker 1: just basically reciting the criticisms of the Cold War. But
25:17
Speaker 1: like that's what this is basically.
25:21
Speaker 2: And this is the point where they get into the
25:23
Speaker 2: Italy theory, which we did a whole episode about they
25:27
Speaker 2: keep bringing up that famous affidavit which is literally just
25:31
Speaker 2: some some typed out words signed by a guy the
25:34
Speaker 2: most I don't know if that qualifies as an actual affidavit.
25:38
Speaker 1: I'm not sure the most suspicious affidavit that has been
25:42
Speaker 1: released that I remember that video of that of that
25:46
Speaker 1: weird Italian guy that was that was very strange. Didn't
25:49
Speaker 1: seem above the level to me, I'm gonna say, not
25:52
Speaker 1: above board.
25:52
Speaker 2: Definitely not something you could fake. Well, if you can
25:55
Speaker 2: just sit in Italian guy down in front of a
25:57
Speaker 2: camera with a script and tell him to read, oh man,
26:00
Speaker 2: so we'll link to our Italy Theory episodes so you
26:04
Speaker 2: can you can dive into that. He also brings up
26:07
Speaker 2: an air purification company wanting to profit from the Green
26:11
Speaker 2: New Deal as possible U co conspirators in this tom on.
26:17
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, just just grasping at right wing straws,
26:20
Speaker 1: you know.
26:22
Speaker 2: And then they get into a whole argument that really
26:26
Speaker 2: really got under my skin, which is the notion that
26:31
Speaker 2: China was behind this hacking of our voting machines because
26:36
Speaker 2: their agenda would be so much easier to carry out
26:40
Speaker 2: under Biden as opposed to Trump, who was on China.
26:44
Speaker 2: And here's the thing, No, he fucking wasn't, not at all.
26:49
Speaker 2: For one thing, he bring this phil Waldron guy brings
26:52
Speaker 2: up these man made islands that China is building in
26:55
Speaker 2: the South China Sea, which is a thing. There is
26:57
Speaker 2: a big territorial dispute in the South China and he
27:01
Speaker 2: literally says, you know, with Trump out of the way,
27:04
Speaker 2: that endeavor is going to be easier to pull off.
27:07
Speaker 2: The Obama administration has been vowing that China will not
27:12
Speaker 2: shut down shipping lanes in the South China Sea since
27:15
Speaker 2: two thousand and ten. When Obama first made that announcement,
27:20
Speaker 2: China's delegate that was in the room stormed out of
27:23
Speaker 2: the room.
27:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the many big weird scandals of the
27:27
Speaker 1: of the Obama administration.
27:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, he brings up those islands. The Biden administration right
27:33
Speaker 2: now is actively assuring China that we will defend the
27:37
Speaker 2: Philippines' rights to those islands and that we will keep
27:40
Speaker 2: them open. Meanwhile, I don't think Trump said shit about
27:42
Speaker 2: the South China Sea.
27:43
Speaker 1: No.
27:44
Speaker 2: That's one of the big components of any conspiracy theory.
27:47
Speaker 2: What was the motive and did it work right? If
27:49
Speaker 2: they're arguing China did this and their motive was because
27:53
Speaker 2: Biden would be easier on China. That is demonstrably false.
27:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could probably explain exactly the line of thinking
28:02
Speaker 1: that leads person like the pillowman to this conclusion, which
28:07
Speaker 1: is China communist bad, Biden Democrat communist bad loves China.
28:16
Speaker 1: That's literally it. I think that is the one to
28:19
Speaker 1: one thought process.
28:22
Speaker 2: And so Trump's all Trump's talk about the trade deal
28:25
Speaker 2: in the trade wars and things. I'm sure because I
28:28
Speaker 2: know Asian people who voted for Trump because they perceived
28:32
Speaker 2: him as being tougher on China. And the thing is
28:36
Speaker 2: the Trans Pacific Partnership which Trump immediately pulled out of
28:40
Speaker 2: that actually limited China's influence in that region and kind
28:44
Speaker 2: of kept them at bay from a human rights standpoint.
28:48
Speaker 2: And will link to an article from a Vietnamese publication
28:52
Speaker 2: where they're like, look, under the Trans Pacific Partnership, we
28:55
Speaker 2: were doing all right, like we were on our way
28:57
Speaker 2: to coming back, and then the United States out of
29:00
Speaker 2: it in China just started abusing human rights again and
29:04
Speaker 2: trying to fucking take everyone over.
29:06
Speaker 1: Yep.
29:06
Speaker 2: So the Transpacific Partnership was actually tougher on China than
29:10
Speaker 2: this trade war. This trade war raised the price of
29:13
Speaker 2: Chinese goods in the United States. It costs three hundred
29:17
Speaker 2: thousand American jobs, and we got nothing in.
29:21
Speaker 1: Return, absolutely nothing.
29:23
Speaker 2: So the idea that China would interfere in this election
29:27
Speaker 2: to get Biden elected is fucking bananas and it is
29:31
Speaker 2: not based in facts.
29:34
Speaker 1: So yeah, no reality whatsoever.
29:36
Speaker 2: And I mean, I'm sorry, believers, but that China stuff
29:40
Speaker 2: is almost the foundation of this theory, or at least
29:44
Speaker 2: one half of it, I mean, and it's just not true.
29:47
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, it's one of the one of the many,
29:50
Speaker 1: like rickety foundations that this movie is trying to build
29:54
Speaker 1: a imitation of an argument on top.
29:57
Speaker 2: Of Yeah, and I'd like it noted we're only like
29:59
Speaker 2: twenty five minutes into this fucking thing.
30:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, when I realized I was still just
30:06
Speaker 1: in the intro at that point, that's when I first
30:09
Speaker 1: started to really lose hope. I was really in a
30:12
Speaker 1: dark place at this point.
30:15
Speaker 2: So the next person he talks to Russell Ramsland Allied
30:19
Speaker 2: Security Operations Group. He also says he has proof right
30:23
Speaker 2: outside interests are accessing voting machines and changing votes. Yeah,
30:28
Speaker 2: this guy's goddamn fraud. There is in a Washington Post
30:33
Speaker 2: article about this guy's past and his motivations that I
30:37
Speaker 2: shit you not. Seems like it's about one hundred and
30:39
Speaker 2: eighty five thousand words. Of all, it is lengthy, and
30:43
Speaker 2: this guy's a salesman. He has made his living selling
30:48
Speaker 2: all kinds of crazy shit. And now the thing, the
30:51
Speaker 2: crazy shit he's selling is that the election was stolen
30:54
Speaker 2: from Trump. He keeps saying, we have proof, We've seen proof,
30:58
Speaker 2: we just can't release it yet. And then I love
31:00
Speaker 2: when Mike Lindell keeps jumping in and going, I got
31:03
Speaker 2: the proof. I'm going to show it.
31:04
Speaker 1: At the end of it's like, okay, you're.
31:08
Speaker 2: Just gonna undermine this company's investigation.
31:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing, Like yeah, he's a salesman. Pillowman's
31:15
Speaker 1: a salesman. Like there, this is just a bunch of
31:18
Speaker 1: salesmen trying to sell you shit. You know, they all
31:20
Speaker 1: want to sell you a bridge in New York, and
31:23
Speaker 1: a bunch of people are apparently buying it.
31:26
Speaker 2: I guess this is also one of the moments where
31:29
Speaker 2: Mike Lindell keys in on a kind of not important
31:34
Speaker 2: statement and just loses his shit over it because Russell
31:37
Speaker 2: Ramslan says something along the lines of again, there's a
31:41
Speaker 2: bunch of evidence that we haven't published yet, but it's
31:44
Speaker 2: worse than you think, and Mike Lindell loses his shit,
31:49
Speaker 2: like this is some smoking gun moment in the documentary.
31:53
Speaker 2: He's like, you hear that, folks, it's worse than you think.
31:56
Speaker 2: And it's like, what is worse than I think? You
31:59
Speaker 2: haven't shown me shit?
32:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is. That is the basic rhythm of the
32:05
Speaker 1: entire rest of the movie is just that vibe, repeated
32:09
Speaker 1: ad infinitum.
32:10
Speaker 2: There's a great quote from Mike Lindell in this part
32:12
Speaker 2: where he says, this is the most attack on our
32:14
Speaker 2: country ever.
32:15
Speaker 1: Mike what There's a couple of My favorite one personally
32:19
Speaker 1: was when they're discussing the Italy Gate aspect of this
32:23
Speaker 1: about votes getting sent overseas to be changed and then
32:28
Speaker 1: sent back because that extra step is super necessary, he says,
32:33
Speaker 1: so they can change the vote to anything they want
32:35
Speaker 1: and then send it back cyberly through cyber is cyberly,
32:43
Speaker 1: which is that's just that's just good stuff. That's stupendous.
32:47
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of that one.
32:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, He brings up this German election server theory that
32:53
Speaker 2: centers around a claim that the US Army seized servers
32:57
Speaker 2: owned by this Setyl company that comes up in the
33:00
Speaker 2: documentary that showed Trump actually won four hundred and ten
33:03
Speaker 2: electoral votes.
33:05
Speaker 1: He actually beat him by a million electoral votes.
33:08
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he got electoral votes in countries that aren't
33:12
Speaker 2: even the United States. Yeah, that's how many Trump got.
33:15
Speaker 1: You got electric votes in countries that don't exist yet
33:19
Speaker 1: but will soon.
33:20
Speaker 2: The moon went for Trump.
33:21
Speaker 1: Okay.
33:22
Speaker 2: The Army and Sidle both have come out and said
33:25
Speaker 2: this raid never happened. Yeah, and Seidel was like, we
33:29
Speaker 2: don't have servers in Germany talking about like they they
33:34
Speaker 2: came out and said, obviously if we sell an American
33:38
Speaker 2: entity election equipment, we put it in the United States.
33:43
Speaker 2: Like this isn't a cloud server. They're not signing up
33:46
Speaker 2: for Google storage, like they're buying fucking election equipment.
33:51
Speaker 1: Right. It's all extremely frustrating. Although I this guy Russ,
33:57
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call him dime store Zell. Miller does make
34:00
Speaker 1: a good point where he says the US government has
34:02
Speaker 1: been changing votes in other country. Like He's like, maybe
34:05
Speaker 1: the US has been changing votes in other countries, and
34:08
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, that's that's probably true. That that might
34:12
Speaker 1: be the most correct thing said in this entire thing,
34:15
Speaker 1: Like that's probably right.
34:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, if this was a theory about the United States
34:20
Speaker 2: interfering in a Russian election, yeah, oh yeah, I'm buying that.
34:24
Speaker 2: But come on, uh so yeah, he just he Mike
34:29
Speaker 2: Lindell swears he has this forensic evidence that russ doesn't
34:33
Speaker 2: want us to see and that he's going to show
34:34
Speaker 2: it later in the documentary. Up next, he talks to
34:37
Speaker 2: doctor Shiva Ayad Dry Yeah, who uh most known for
34:42
Speaker 2: his claim that Massachusetts destroyed one million ballots in the
34:46
Speaker 2: US Senate primary that he lost to Republican Kevin O'Connor.
34:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, buddy, a million. Huh wow, that's a that's
34:54
Speaker 1: a big number. I can't believe that.
34:57
Speaker 2: And uh for that, he's he's famous also for claiming
35:00
Speaker 2: that he invented email. Oh I forgot that.
35:02
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, this guy he invented email. You gotta be
35:07
Speaker 4: so you know, this is the guy who invented email,
35:10
Speaker 4: So you gotta you gotta understand he knows what he's
35:12
Speaker 4: talking about.
35:13
Speaker 2: And it's like email is a technology that started in
35:17
Speaker 2: the seventies, Like that doesn't mean you know about shit
35:20
Speaker 2: happening today.
35:21
Speaker 1: Right, Well that's for one thing, there's that, and for
35:24
Speaker 1: the other thing, he definitely did not invent email.
35:28
Speaker 2: Like highly disputed claims.
35:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's say again, citation needed, and the citations mostly
35:35
Speaker 1: come from him. I'm seeing where in nineteen eighty two
35:38
Speaker 1: he talks about how he did not invent email. So
35:43
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, probably didn't.
35:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, this this guy, this guy's a character.
35:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna say, first of all, he's a math guy,
35:51
Speaker 1: like he's a big like he's like, oh well, I've
35:53
Speaker 1: got a computer brain, and I just know that number,
35:56
Speaker 1: how numbers are and numbers are good. And he also
36:00
Speaker 1: you know, and I don't want to be mean or
36:03
Speaker 1: say things any untoward, but look, man, your name is
36:08
Speaker 1: doctor Shiva Ayadurai, and you are trying to become a
36:11
Speaker 1: Republican senator. I can think of a few things other
36:15
Speaker 1: than vote tampering that they're going to prevent you from
36:19
Speaker 1: having a lot of success in that arena. I'm sorry,
36:23
Speaker 1: I'm not trying again, not trying to say anything, but
36:26
Speaker 1: like you, it's in Massachusetts Republicans. Yeah, no, I don't
36:31
Speaker 1: think I don't think they're going to vote for Eshiva.
36:32
Speaker 2: Sorry, look, probably not again controversial, I know.
36:37
Speaker 1: I don't mean to apply that Massachusetts Republicans are super racist.
36:43
Speaker 2: Well racism ended when we elected Obama.
36:45
Speaker 1: Though, Oh so and this election was after Obama. Oh yes, yes,
36:51
Speaker 1: oh okay, well then never mind. Then I'm sorry. I wow, God,
36:55
Speaker 1: I am wrong.
36:56
Speaker 2: He does get into some interesting First Amendment points during
37:00
Speaker 2: this part of the documentary. Yeah, and even like he
37:03
Speaker 2: ended up suing tech Dirt for publishing an article about
37:07
Speaker 2: how he didn't invent email.
37:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say. I read that tech Dirt
37:12
Speaker 1: article and they are very saucy about about that lawsuit.
37:16
Speaker 1: It's pretty funny.
37:17
Speaker 2: But even the person he sued, yeah, wrote a follow
37:20
Speaker 2: up article and was like, all right, well he is
37:23
Speaker 2: kind of right that it's weird that an elected official
37:27
Speaker 2: contacted Twitter and was like you got to take those
37:30
Speaker 2: tweets down? Yeah, which yeah, if like all like this
37:34
Speaker 2: guy is just claiming that his one election was stolen,
37:38
Speaker 2: I don't know if you have to take that down
37:40
Speaker 2: from Twitter, Like you could just be like no, you're wrong,
37:43
Speaker 2: like that's that's not that's not correct.
37:46
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I think the problem is more of
37:49
Speaker 1: who was doing the requesting on that, who was like
37:53
Speaker 1: reporting it, and it being another elected official, which I understand.
37:57
Speaker 1: That's definitely a weird conflict that we haven't really fully
38:00
Speaker 1: hashed out yet. I will say, even if it's just
38:03
Speaker 1: about his little election like that, that is still like,
38:08
Speaker 1: that's the snowball of how all of this shit works
38:12
Speaker 1: in the first place. So like, you know, if you're
38:14
Speaker 1: gonna get rid of some of it, you gotta get
38:15
Speaker 1: rid of.
38:16
Speaker 2: All of it. Yeah, and I don't know that. This
38:20
Speaker 2: is the point in the documentary where I was like, oh,
38:22
Speaker 2: this is gonna be a few episodes, at least two episodes.
38:27
Speaker 1: Let's go with two. I'm gonna say that the second
38:30
Speaker 1: half is a real lightning round. It's like like because
38:33
Speaker 1: like the first hour of this thing, it's basically these
38:37
Speaker 1: two guys and the intro by pillow Man, and the
38:42
Speaker 1: second half it's like a gauntlet that he goes through
38:45
Speaker 1: of different guests.
38:47
Speaker 2: But I'm sure they all bring up very valid points
38:51
Speaker 2: that are backed up with a lot of proof, evidence
38:53
Speaker 2: and things.
38:54
Speaker 1: Of course, which is why I'm saying we'll only do
38:56
Speaker 1: one episode where we're like, no, and this part is
38:58
Speaker 1: this all good, this is all about I get this
39:00
Speaker 1: all makes sense.
39:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, last one hour of this documentary all true.
39:05
Speaker 1: A yeah, they should have led with that, you know.
39:08
Speaker 2: Figure. Yeah, so this is this is the point where
39:11
Speaker 2: we're gonna break uh break this episode off, and then
39:16
Speaker 2: we'll pick it up on part two. We're probably gonna
39:18
Speaker 2: do a bonus episode in between. I don't know what
39:21
Speaker 2: it's gonna be, but uh yeah. How are you feeling
39:23
Speaker 2: about the My the My Pillow Guy documentary so far?
39:27
Speaker 1: How am I feeling?
39:28
Speaker 2: Yeah? You excited that we're watching it?
39:31
Speaker 1: You know, I am I guess glad to have seen
39:35
Speaker 1: it as a cultural artifact of the time, you know. Sure,
39:42
Speaker 1: But as a human being who had to spend two
39:45
Speaker 1: hours watching this man say vaguely coherent words at me,
39:55
Speaker 1: I didn't love it. I didn't love the experience. I
39:57
Speaker 1: gotta say overall, I would say I'm not an extremely
40:01
Speaker 1: well executed movie. For one thing, bad true movie, very
40:06
Speaker 1: bad more than anything else, extremely unsatisfying film. And also
40:12
Speaker 1: I would say, as an argument, maybe not entirely persuasive
40:18
Speaker 1: at all in any capacity, I.
40:21
Speaker 2: Would definitely agree with that. I also agree with you
40:24
Speaker 2: that I am glad that I've at least seen this. Yeah,
40:28
Speaker 2: I feel that way about all of this shit. I'm
40:29
Speaker 2: glad I saw the plandemic video. Sure, like I do
40:35
Speaker 2: try to seek this out and just see what these
40:37
Speaker 2: people are saying, because that's the thing people who follow
40:40
Speaker 2: this shit always accuse you of, or that's the thing
40:43
Speaker 2: they always come back with, which is, well, do the
40:46
Speaker 2: research and just sorry for yourself, motherfucker. I do.
40:50
Speaker 1: I do the research, I really do.
40:53
Speaker 2: And this documentary it's just full of shit that has
40:58
Speaker 2: already been proven false, so that's being exaggerated or that
41:01
Speaker 2: can't be proven because there is no evidence of.
41:04
Speaker 1: It, and just charts and graphs and numbers that have
41:11
Speaker 1: no backup or context or anything, which is just that
41:16
Speaker 1: should always be a red flag for you. I'm sorry,
41:18
Speaker 1: even if it's for something that you agree with, even
41:21
Speaker 1: if you're like a liberal or a leftist listening to
41:24
Speaker 1: this and like someone that you follow on Twitter you
41:27
Speaker 1: like presents you with a graph if it does or
41:30
Speaker 1: a chart like if you don't have like sources for
41:33
Speaker 1: that shit, or like if your graph doesn't have numbers
41:36
Speaker 1: on it, which happens a lot, like you know, fucking
41:40
Speaker 1: take that shit with a huge ass grain of salt.
41:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even then you gotta take into account who
41:46
Speaker 2: made the graph absolutely, what their motivations might have been.
41:51
Speaker 2: My favorite example, as always, is the famous study that
41:56
Speaker 2: claims cigarettes and e cigarettes have the same chemicals them.
42:00
Speaker 2: They do, but they're the chemicals that like when you
42:04
Speaker 2: walk into Disneyland or any California apartment, there's a sign
42:07
Speaker 2: that says, yeah, there's fucking came, you could get cancer, right,
42:11
Speaker 2: but everyone is exposed to these all the time. Those
42:14
Speaker 2: are the chemicals that are in both cigarettes and e cigarettes.
42:17
Speaker 2: It's not the STRYC nine and the rat poison and
42:20
Speaker 2: all the shit that they put in cigarettes. Those are
42:23
Speaker 2: definitively not any cigarettes. And the study that made that
42:27
Speaker 2: claim was funded by the tobacco cessation industry. And there
42:33
Speaker 2: is no better way to quit smoking than vaping. It's
42:37
Speaker 2: it is almost fool proof.
42:38
Speaker 1: It's a good step down, definitely, it sure is.
42:41
Speaker 2: So. Yeah, don't once you see that there are numbers
42:44
Speaker 2: on it, dig a little deeper and see who's actually
42:47
Speaker 2: putting that study together and what their motivation might be.
42:50
Speaker 1: Maybe, look, is the comma in the right place on
42:52
Speaker 1: the on the number, Like you know that that might
42:55
Speaker 1: be a big indicator of whether or not this is
42:57
Speaker 1: a trustworthy sorts.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the one of the outlets that's been pushing a
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Speaker 2: lot of this election fraud has the nerve to call
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Speaker 2: themselves just the facts, and they just so clearly cherry
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Speaker 2: pick facts and details and mold them into a presentation
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Speaker 2: that kind of makes their point. But usually even then
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Speaker 2: not really.
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Speaker 1: That is like, could not be a more suspicious name
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Speaker 1: for something like that than just the facts.
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Speaker 2: It's never just the facts.
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Speaker 1: Facts are never just the facts. There's always context. You
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Speaker 1: can't just learn a fact and then think that you
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Speaker 1: understand the story. You've got to know what led up
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Speaker 1: to the fact and what you know the out you know,
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Speaker 1: outcome of that was like, there's just always context to ship.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, oh my god, I don't know. I
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Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know what to say about it.
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Speaker 1: It's so defeated.
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Speaker 2: We have a whole other episode we have to do
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Speaker 2: about it. I don't what are we gonna do for
43:57
Speaker 2: a bonus episode in between? Should buy them? Should we
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Speaker 2: each by my pillow? Test it out?
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Speaker 1: No? I don't want to give this guy doesn't get
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Speaker 1: like a used one, but I feel like it used
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Speaker 1: my pillow. Is it also a dangerous preposition?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds even worse.
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Speaker 1: You know, I started watching Rubicon rewatching Rubicon because I
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Speaker 1: hadn't seen it since there. Have you watched Rubicon? I
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Speaker 1: have not, dude, Okay, we'll talk about after the show,
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Speaker 1: but maybe that would be.
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Speaker 2: A thing I started watching. I've watched one episode of
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Speaker 2: a ABC series that lasted one season called Zero Hour
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Speaker 2: and it stars Revenge of the Nerds and Eers Anthony Edwards.
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Speaker 2: Hell yeah, he plays a guy who runs a skeptic
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Speaker 2: website back in the day when running a website was
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Speaker 2: actually a thing that could be profitable and allow you
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Speaker 2: to hire people to help, back in the Facebook glory days.
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Speaker 2: And he gets roped into a Nazi artifact conspiracy and
44:54
Speaker 2: somehow this show didn't make it past season one on ABC.
44:58
Speaker 2: The problem is I was watching it on the the
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Speaker 2: ABC app, and I shit you not, there was about
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Speaker 2: twenty two minutes of commercials fuck that spliced into that.
45:06
Speaker 2: So now I have to decide if I want to
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Speaker 2: like follow through and pay for it. I'm not watching
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Speaker 2: it on the ABC app, so yeah, who knows. We'll
45:14
Speaker 2: figure out some bonus shit to do in between. We
45:18
Speaker 2: got to take a break in between this My Pillow documentary. Uugh,
45:22
Speaker 2: until then, do we have anything to plug? Use code
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Speaker 2: unpops it check out to save fifteen percent on your
45:29
Speaker 2: MyPillow purchase free shipping if you order before Friday.
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Speaker 1: I bet you could, like, here, let me give a
45:37
Speaker 1: I'll give my pillow promo code. Go to my Pillow
45:40
Speaker 1: and put in promo code QAnon. I bet I'm not
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Speaker 1: even fucking joking. I bet I would bet one hundred
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Speaker 1: dollars that that is still an active promo code.
45:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me at all. I bet there's
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Speaker 2: like a QAnon edition of my pillow. It's just got
45:57
Speaker 2: the big queue with the flag in it.
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Speaker 1: It's like a Q drop collage where it's like a
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Speaker 1: bunch of them, all the best ones.
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Speaker 2: What if that's how the drops are going out? Now? Hey,
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Speaker 2: maybe hidden inside my pillows? What a boom for that guy?
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Speaker 1: Oh, that's how they make him so soft as I
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Speaker 1: don't I actually I'm not gonna lie I have. I
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Speaker 1: will never know what exactly my pillow is.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't look that comfortable.
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Speaker 1: Is it just a foam pillow?
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Speaker 2: I think it's got some like contours and things and
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Speaker 2: but I don't like that, Like I don't and a
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Speaker 2: memory phone pillow is gonna be stiff. Oh I don't
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Speaker 2: want that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got one that you have to kind of
46:41
Speaker 1: fiddle with occasionally.
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Speaker 2: I punch it up a little bit.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I you know, or like make sure it's like
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Speaker 1: has enough time to fill back up before before bedtime?
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Speaker 2: Is it made in China like the my pillow? Ironically, yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's not.
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Speaker 1: I would love if like whoever is the Chinese manufacturer
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Speaker 1: of my pillow? Like if someone emailed them this documentary
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Speaker 1: and was like this is check this out, see what's up?
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Speaker 1: You know, do you really wanna do you really really
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Speaker 1: want to make in this guy's pillows? Huh?
47:16
Speaker 2: Get him deplatformed from his pillow.
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Speaker 1: Making exactly canceled by China. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So uh. Other than that, I don't have anything to plug.
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Speaker 2: Patreon dot com, Slash and Pops on Pops networked out,
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Speaker 2: Supercast dot Tech. We were gonna me Andy Sell and
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Speaker 2: Travis Clark. We're gonna try and plan a tour for September,
47:34
Speaker 2: but COVID's gonna yeah ruin that.
47:36
Speaker 1: I can tell that seems tough.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Uh, what do you got to plug.
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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Twitter uh high there hidar, And that's all
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Speaker 1: the energy I have to devote to plugs right.
47:47
Speaker 2: Now, agreed. All right, let's get out of here. Olivia,
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Speaker 2: say goodbye cyberly, growled bye.
47:57
Speaker 1: I'll know how to say something cyberly.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. He has to do it in like ones and zero.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about this in the next one. But some
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Speaker 1: guy talks about adding up all the ones and zeros
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Speaker 1: in the computer to find something. I'm like, that's that's priceless.
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Speaker 1: I love this.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not a real thing. All right, goodbye everybody,
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Speaker 2: We love you.