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Colin Cowherd Podcast - Jayden Daniels vs. LSU, Mendoza’s Elite Intangibles, Simpson’s Stellar Debut, Can McCaffrey & Dart Stay Healthy? · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The volume. Very excited to say that bud Light is
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  Speaker 1: the Colin Coward Podcast. This NFL season, all right, it's preseason,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't even I mean, I'll be honest with you.
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  Speaker 1: I watched the first three series of these games. Then
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  Speaker 1: I look for certain draft picks. So a John Middlecoff,
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  Speaker 1: former NFL scout three and out joining us. So I
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  Speaker 1: went to the Bears game stayed for three quarters. You
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  Speaker 1: know I've said before, I think Andrew Berry is a
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  Speaker 1: good GM. They have talent, CONCEPTSI owns, a real playmaker.
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  Speaker 1: He's going to be a big hit for them. Boston
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  Speaker 1: they like him as well, strong guy and a Washington
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver. I think they've got some really interesting players.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of their offense. Shad
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  Speaker 1: Or didn't look great, Deshaun Watson couldn't get into the
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  Speaker 1: end zone, Dylan Gabriel whatever. I think the biggest snooze
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  Speaker 1: for the Bears. I think one of this thing thirty
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  Speaker 1: four to ten didn't do much in the first half.
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  Speaker 1: Ozzie Trapilo, their left tackle who most thought could miss
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  Speaker 1: the season. They announced today he'll be ready for Week one.
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  Speaker 1: This goes back to something John I've talked about. I
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  Speaker 1: think the medical advances. I think players are healthier, eating better, flexibility,
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  Speaker 1: the medical staffs, the training. Almost everybody as a rule
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  Speaker 1: comes back thirty percent sooner than you'd think. This kid
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  Speaker 1: came back crazy about fifty percent sooner. So to me,
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  Speaker 1: my entire question with the Bears is they needed an
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  Speaker 1: edge rusher. They don't get a great pass rush. They
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  Speaker 1: didn't against Cleveland and left tackle, so left tackle appears
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  Speaker 1: to be solved.
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  Speaker 2: Now they what's the old adage that success isn't always linear,
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  Speaker 2: which can be true in a lot of industries, but
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  Speaker 2: at football, I don't agree. To me, the biggest win
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  Speaker 2: for them, Remember last year at this time was like
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  Speaker 2: Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams kind of weird fit, right, this
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  Speaker 2: ad lib quarterback in this guy. Now, I flipped on
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  Speaker 2: the game because it was on NFL network. Kickoff. I
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  Speaker 2: realized why you went. It was much easier in the
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  Speaker 2: morning these morning kickoffs. You could get home. All those
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  Speaker 2: guys are just in the sideline. Caleb in just sweats
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  Speaker 2: with Lovelin and everyone else just yeah, they should be
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  Speaker 2: in sweats. I wouldn't utilize him at all during and
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  Speaker 2: by all accounts, he's taken huge strides this offseason. So
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  Speaker 2: really you're just watching their backups and more like Tyson
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  Speaker 2: Badget comes into the game. I thought he looked pretty
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  Speaker 2: good and that's a pretty good job by Ben Johnson
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  Speaker 2: developing him. But like you said, we talked about it
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  Speaker 2: last week. You know, originally Kobe Bryant was signed. He's
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  Speaker 2: a big time playmaker for Seattle on you know, one
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  Speaker 2: of the best defenses of the last I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: ten years, especially down the stretch for them. He has
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  Speaker 2: a very serious injury, it turns out, because at first
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't going to be that bad that he got
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  Speaker 2: surgery and now he's probably out for the season. They
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  Speaker 2: were going to be a defensive backfield oriented defense because
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  Speaker 2: they're pass rushers. Well that's a pretty big blow because
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  Speaker 2: now you're depending more on the Oregon rookie, which it
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  Speaker 2: can be difficult for rookie dbs, and I think that's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be their big question mark because offensively, I know
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  Speaker 2: Ben wants to be the greatest offense of all time.
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  Speaker 2: I thought when he had that comment, I don't blame
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  Speaker 2: him for having those aspirations. It's probably not gonna happen
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. You wouldn't maybe a couple more
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  Speaker 2: years of some of their guys to come into their own,
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  Speaker 2: including the quarterback. But they are gonna be like they
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  Speaker 2: I think in a perfect world for them, like Denver,
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  Speaker 2: we don't want to be in all these crazy games
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  Speaker 2: where we keep your fingers crossed in the fourth quarter, right, right,
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  Speaker 2: can we have we're better than you? We're up fifteen
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  Speaker 2: points going in the fourth quarter instead of a tie game,
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  Speaker 2: or we're down and Caleb has to make these miraculous plays.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, I think they have one of the
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  Speaker 2: best coaches clearly in the league.
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  Speaker 1: I will say they got the safety from Oregon and
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  Speaker 1: Malite Mohammad the corner from Texas. So they actually and
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  Speaker 1: they have Jalen healthy, right if they can stand? Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so I think that. Actually I like their back end.
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  Speaker 1: The question will be for them, they're rush. They have
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  Speaker 1: Sweat a six rounder out of Georgia Tech. They like,
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  Speaker 1: they just don't have much of an edge rush. I
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  Speaker 1: went to a practice, I went to the game. They
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  Speaker 1: just don't They don't generate a lot of edge rush.
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  Speaker 1: That's just who they are. I could absolutely see depending
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  Speaker 1: on how the Raiders go, I could see him going
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  Speaker 1: after a Max Crosby absolutely without I.
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  Speaker 2: Think by far the biggest win is coming into this year.
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  Speaker 2: Like when Ben Johnson was hired, if you would have
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  Speaker 2: said going into a second training camp, you could say
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  Speaker 2: with a straight face. I know some people thought it
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  Speaker 2: could be the MVP last year. That was kind of
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  Speaker 2: crazy in my opinion, I was too native, but to go, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Caleb could become a top five six quarterback this year
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  Speaker 2: and be a guy that if his completing percentage goes
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  Speaker 2: up and they win twelve plus games like legitimately MVP
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  Speaker 2: candidate and could win it like everyone. Yeah, the roster's
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  Speaker 2: not perfect that they've had some picks that they would
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  Speaker 2: probably like back or transactions they would like to have back.
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  Speaker 2: But I think you have to feel pretty good about
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  Speaker 2: And the other thing is, for the first time, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of questions in Green Bay roster wise. You know
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  Speaker 2: their Minnesota is keeping their fingers crossed on a Kyler
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  Speaker 2: Murray resurrection, right, and the Lions are definitely, to me
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  Speaker 2: roster wise, the best team in that division. But you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: third coordinator now in three years already had a couple
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  Speaker 2: offensive line injuries, some question marks there, and they're one
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  Speaker 2: of the rare really good teams where the offensive line
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  Speaker 2: truly matters because their quarterback can't move. So it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the offensive line is a little hit or missed with
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  Speaker 2: Josh Allen, Well, did you see that highlight play he
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  Speaker 2: had yesterday? Like you know, or Lamar Jackson or Herbert Well,
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  Speaker 2: their guy can't move. How many top fifteen quarterbacks can't move?
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  Speaker 2: Dak's probably the only other closest, and he came into
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  Speaker 2: the league as a fantastic athlete. He's just gotten older,
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  Speaker 2: had some lower body injuries. Golf, by of all the
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  Speaker 2: good players, is the only guy that can't move. So
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  Speaker 2: he is very, very dependent on great play calling and
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  Speaker 2: if they if they're gonna push the ball down the field,
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  Speaker 2: holding up at the line of scrimmage against the bass rush.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there was Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan Brady,
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  Speaker 1: They're all gone, So Goff is really the last pure Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: They don't even exist in college anymore. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: don't think we're gonna see it. They don't exist up
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  Speaker 2: from everything that I've read and just peek at they
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  Speaker 2: don't exist in high school. Like I We're just not
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  Speaker 2: gonna see that player, I don't think ever again.
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  Speaker 1: So one of the things, kind of one of my
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  Speaker 1: rules is if I and this is not to say
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  Speaker 1: that smart people don't make mistakes, but if if somebody's
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  Speaker 1: really smart and then they work with somebody that's really smart,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt. So
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  Speaker 1: when the Rams drafted Tys Simpson, my take was they
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  Speaker 1: had two first round picks. They got a top three
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  Speaker 1: corner with one of them, Trent McDuffie, So they took
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  Speaker 1: a flyer on a quarterback. Now, John I, I'm a
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  Speaker 1: believer there are two positions in football that you have
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  Speaker 1: to address at least a year before you need him
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  Speaker 1: potentially two quarterback and left tackle. There are not Those
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  Speaker 1: are just positions that an injury can decimate. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: look at look at the Niners record. When Trent Williams
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  Speaker 1: doesn't play, like with Shanahan and Purtty, it's a different,
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  Speaker 1: different football team. So when the Rams drafted ty Simpson
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  Speaker 1: and everybody was outraged, my take was they had two
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  Speaker 1: picks in the first their biggest weakness was corner Like
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  Speaker 1: it's Okay, you know Stafford gets dinged up. So I
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  Speaker 1: watched hy Simpson every snap twenty one of twenty five
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  Speaker 1: through the ball very well, especially rolling right. I mean
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  Speaker 1: it was all backups but poised. This is it's like
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  Speaker 1: having good parents when you come into the NFL and
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  Speaker 1: you get Andy Reid or Shanahan or McVeigh or Kevin O'Connell.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's like hitting the lottery with your parents.
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  Speaker 1: You know you've got a hedge fun guys, your dad
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  Speaker 1: growing up. It's a little bit of an advantage. And
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  Speaker 1: I just watched Ky Simpson and it was the classic.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not nobody individually, but I said when the
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  Speaker 1: Rams did this, I said, guys, it's quarterback. You have
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  Speaker 1: to draw. You can't get desperate and have to give
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  Speaker 1: up six picks to get him. Like the Rams will
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  Speaker 1: never be drafting this high. You got Trent McDuffie, so
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you saw Ty Simpson. My take was he
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  Speaker 1: looked really poised. And I know I'm not making that
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  Speaker 1: much of it, but I was impressed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched the game live. I had a high
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  Speaker 2: ranking executive tell me last week said that if you
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  Speaker 2: flipped it and they traded pick thirteen for Trent McDuffie.
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  Speaker 2: And this was before he played the game against the Chiefs,
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  Speaker 2: and it had used picked twenty nine or twenty eight
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  Speaker 2: whatever pick that exactly was to get Trent, and and
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  Speaker 2: ty Simpson went in that spot right. They had traded
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  Speaker 2: the high pick the like the Bengals did. He said
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  Speaker 2: a lot. It wouldn't have been as but when you
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  Speaker 2: take a guy thirteen, that's really close to being a
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  Speaker 2: single digit pick. And people, and I'm guilty of this,
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  Speaker 2: you look for traits right yet we've seen Anthony Richardson.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you followed this cam Ward situation.
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  Speaker 2: It has not gone well right now in Tennessee. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Trey Lance, just because you have traits does not mean
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna be a good quarterback. But you know where
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  Speaker 2: you land that quarterback also really matters. I saw some
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  Speaker 2: highlights of Zach Wilson with Kellen Moore. Looks pretty good,
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  Speaker 2: got him going. So who your coaches has a lot
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  Speaker 2: of influence on you. Some guys it turns out maybe
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  Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy turns out he can never play the plays
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  Speaker 2: they ran for him. One thing you gotta be careful
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  Speaker 2: of in the preseason is Defensive coaches, they're less likely
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  Speaker 2: to truly game plan for these events. They will just
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  Speaker 2: maybe run a couple of blitzes right throughout early in
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  Speaker 2: the game when the good players for the other team
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  Speaker 2: first or second strings, but they're not putting together a
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  Speaker 2: defensive game plan. Offensive coaches sneaky will script out the
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  Speaker 2: first fifteen to twenty plays for their quarter because they
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  Speaker 2: want him to look good. Like they got big egos.
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  Speaker 2: They want to put the guy in a good position.
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  Speaker 2: And I do think there are a lot of parallels
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  Speaker 2: with Tie's skill set with like a guy like brock
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  Speaker 2: perty right, not the biggest, not the strongest arm, clearly
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  Speaker 2: pretty accurate. I mean those mcveay shanahan play action get
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  Speaker 2: him on the move. It was like, okay, he could
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  Speaker 2: do that with his in his sleep. We talked about
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  Speaker 2: these other quote unquote bus quarterbacks. They can't make that pass.
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  Speaker 2: It's not because they can't hit up some bomb down
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  Speaker 2: the You got to hit the layups. And in that offense,
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  Speaker 2: that play is a layup throw because the guy coming
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  Speaker 2: across ten fifteen yards away from you down the field
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  Speaker 2: is wide open. You have to hit that. Your completion
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  Speaker 2: percentage on that pass on the rollout. McVeigh Shanahan like
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  Speaker 2: that is a bread and butter play for them, and
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  Speaker 2: he hit it with ease, right, even though I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: they practiced a bunch, They probably I would say, planned
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  Speaker 2: on running those plays in practice for him, so he
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  Speaker 2: was comfortable doing it. My bigger issue is, like court,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we talk about quarterback inflation or inflation all
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  Speaker 2: over America.
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  Speaker 1: Is real.
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  Speaker 2: If my AC units go down, it's gonna cost me
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  Speaker 2: twenty grand five years ago it might have been twelve. Right,
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  Speaker 2: What am I gonna do not pay? Right? I think
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  Speaker 2: at running back, at some of the other positions. You
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  Speaker 2: can pick your spot in a draft. I do get
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  Speaker 2: if you have conviction on a player and believe in him.
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  Speaker 2: My main issue is like historically, guys with less physical
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  Speaker 2: traits Dak Kirk, Cousins, Purdy, you know, even Brady coming
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  Speaker 2: out of college. Everyone has their own story. Just went
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  Speaker 2: later in the draft. That no longer happens, right, right,
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  Speaker 2: because if you go in the third round, now people
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  Speaker 2: go that guy's a backup. If you're taking a guy
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  Speaker 2: in the top forty, you view him as a first
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  Speaker 2: round Even when the Titans took Will Levis high in
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  Speaker 2: the second round. They use that pick thinking this guy
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  Speaker 2: could be our starting quarterback. So when you take a
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  Speaker 2: guy at thirteen his risk profile, we all have to
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  Speaker 2: agree it is pretty high. One year starter by the
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  Speaker 2: end of the year got banged up. But like, clearly
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  Speaker 2: you got to give high level, high level organizations deserve
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  Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt. Apple and Amazon make a decision.
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  Speaker 2: You give them a longer runway than some crappy companies, right,
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: That's how I feel about McVeigh and snead like and
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  Speaker 1: their scouting department, which hasn't missed on a defensive player
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  Speaker 1: in years. I'm like, I'm just if if if mcvay's like,
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  Speaker 1: that works for me because because I will say Ty
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  Speaker 1: Simpson moves, well, he's not a classic pocket guy. He moves.
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  Speaker 1: That's why.
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  Speaker 2: He can just get out and move and keep plays
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  Speaker 2: alive and.
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  Speaker 1: That that rollout play.
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  Speaker 2: You go back to Mike Shanahan who took over with
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  Speaker 2: the older railway. Who did he pivot off of like
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  Speaker 2: Jake Plumber. You know that he wanted a guy with mobile.
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  Speaker 2: It goes back to Bill Walsh. They don't need Lamar
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  Speaker 2: Jackson athlete, but they like an athlete because I can
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  Speaker 2: get him on the move to throw. Well, Stafford at
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  Speaker 2: this point in time, he's so elite. Is a throw
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  Speaker 2: or it doesn't even matter, but because it can't move
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  Speaker 2: as much anymore. But like, if you gave Matt Stafford
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  Speaker 2: and his prime McVeigh, they would run that play over
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  Speaker 2: and over it. It would be not you wouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: able to stop it.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, something that just shows how much talent
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  Speaker 1: there is in the NBA. After about the fourteenth pick,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you really run out of starters. That's why
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  Speaker 1: you can name Draymond Green or Tony Parker or Jokisch
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  Speaker 1: as great second round players. There just aren't many. I'm
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  Speaker 1: watching an undrafted guy running back from Houston for the
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  Speaker 1: Rams named Dean Connors, and I'm like, who they? I
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  Speaker 1: didn't watch a lot of Houston football. I was just like,
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  Speaker 1: that guy's gonna make a team. He was undrafted.
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  Speaker 2: Well is it this? And I say this all these
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  Speaker 2: different angles of the NFL, I think why it resonates
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  Speaker 2: with so many people. But you turn on the Bears game,
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  Speaker 2: you got Tyson Badget where I bet if you polled
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  Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of the people in America. Whatever the
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  Speaker 2: hell division seventh school he went to. No one could
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  Speaker 2: point it out on a map. Then you watch him
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  Speaker 2: and you go, that guy's legit NFL. He's gonna play
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  Speaker 2: in the league for a long time. At think how
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  Speaker 2: many people in life in all these different Most people
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  Speaker 2: didn't go to Harvard or UCLA, And there are a
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  Speaker 2: lot of successful people all over the place that come
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  Speaker 2: different paths. Isn't that kind of the NFL? Like you
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  Speaker 2: don't have to go to Ohio State or USC or
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  Speaker 2: Texas to be to become a millionaire in America.
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  Speaker 1: You don't.
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  Speaker 2: You could go to Chico State just fine. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I went to Call Paula, you went to what Like
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  Speaker 2: they are all sorts of pass and that is the NFL. Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Caleb went to USC Oklahoma, five star. He's playing with
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  Speaker 2: some guys that clearly or not, you know, all over
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  Speaker 2: his team. You know, Jalen Johnson once started at some
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  Speaker 2: small high school in Fresno and worked his way up
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  Speaker 2: and became I forget exactly where we went to college,
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  Speaker 2: but like, not everyone is just going to LSU the
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  Speaker 2: number one.
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  Speaker 1: Overall pick, that's right. Yeah, Okay, So I want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about the Niners. I know you liked that second
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  Speaker 1: round wide receiver.
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  Speaker 2: See that Colin.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty good. They overdraft receiver.
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  Speaker 2: Butt Shrams loved him too.
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  Speaker 1: Stribbling. Yeah, he had seven catches. He was impressive. But
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  Speaker 1: this is interesting. So Christian McCaffrey missed a week of practice.
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  Speaker 1: So in twenty nineteen he led the league in touches.
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  Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, he played only three games. In twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty three, he led the league in touches. In twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty four, he played only four games. Last year, he
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  Speaker 1: led the league in touches. I mean that. My take
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  Speaker 1: is it's like a pitcher the ghost, three hundred innings.
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  Speaker 1: Are you concerned if you're a Niner fan about listen this?
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  Speaker 1: I mean was he did a majority of the carries
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  Speaker 1: last year, and it just he's a He was getting
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  Speaker 1: banged up when he was a young running back. There's
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  Speaker 1: a trend here with McCaffrey, and it's not a great
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  Speaker 1: one if you're San Francisco.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they got no chance.
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  Speaker 1: He missed.
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  Speaker 2: I guess practice again today. They're flying down to LA
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  Speaker 2: this week to do a joint practice with the Chargers,
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  Speaker 2: and I think they play him on Thursday. He had
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  Speaker 2: seventeen touchdowns. Last year, he had over two thousand yards,
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  Speaker 2: did not miss a game, and then in the upset
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  Speaker 2: victor against the Eagles, he had two touchdowns. One was
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  Speaker 2: the game winner, basically the double pass to him down
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  Speaker 2: the sideline. They just he is the lynchpin for their team,
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  Speaker 2: for their offense specifically, and they're it's not like their
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  Speaker 2: backup running back is you know, some few up and
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  Speaker 2: coming star. So this is the one thing you respect
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: about him the most is how seriously I mean, this
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: guy trains like three sixty five twenty four to seven.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: My take is, and listen that he knows his body
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: better than me. But I grew up in an era
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: where guys took some time off and it was easy
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: on your body, and hear some of these guys in
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: their fifties and sixties were like, my body needed that.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: And I think some of these guys in general pushed
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: themselves so hard that it's like, bro, a month, two
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: months off, you're not gonna look like me. In a month,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: you're you'll be okay. And I you know, he's a
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: guy that notoriously trains as hard as anyone in the NFL,
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: like Lebron yeah, one of the biggest genetic freaks we've
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: ever seen. Most guys knee just some time off and
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: I just you fall him on social media. He just
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: trains every single day and by all account, yea come
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: back into great shape, look good the first week in practice,
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: and now no one's seen him in two weeks. And
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: it's not one of those well he just rolled his
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: ankle freak deal. This is one of those ten to night.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: He's had lower body injuries, he's had knee issues. He's
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: a tightly wound guy. I put Bosa in that category
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: as well. Now Bosa's legitimately toward his ACL I think
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: three times in his life, so that's just over time
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: tendonitis or whatever comes up. This one is just because
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: you just you need this guy, Like if they're gonna
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: they're a playoff team if you tell me Christian mccafre's
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: fully healthy and they play seventeen games because he's just
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: too productive of a player. But at this happened two
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: years ago and I thought, well, that's no big deal,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: he's just fine, and then all of a sudden, week
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: one came he couldn't play and then eventually plays four
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: games that season. So This is of all the Niners injuries,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: this by far is their biggest red flag, you know,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: because the Bosa thing, you know, is last year of
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: guaranteed money on his contract. At the Bosa's they like
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: their money, you know, they're always kind of angling. They
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: come from a family. McCaffrey is. If mccaffreck can practice,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: he can practice. He's the only guy now. They don't
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: always make him practice, but he's always there. He's always working.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Like Trey Williams and Bosa like they've been on their
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: own plan for a while. McCaffrey is not like if
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: you would let him, he would practice, honestly, twelve months
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: a year. He'd have the team together. And some people's bodies,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: isn't it crazy, you know, sport. Some guys bodies just
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: they play fifteen years, no problem. In other guy's bodies
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: when they're young, they just can't hang. It's sometimes it's
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: just it's obviously out of your control.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean John Lynch of the Niners, the GM
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: told me he never had a concussion. Dude, he led
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: with his head for fifteen years. I mean I covered
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: him in Tampa as a player and he was back
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: when Chuck Cecil and John Lynch. They were like torpedoes
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: leading with their helmet when it was legal. He's like,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think I ever had a concussion. I mean,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: it's just and then you know Troy Eigman had like
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: six or seven, you know, young lot of it. Yeah,
• 19:06
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  Speaker 1: twenty six. All Right, Giants played the Vikings low scoring game.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Jackson Dark got smoked bad. I will say I said
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Malachi Melchai Fields, the six to fourd receiver from Notre Dame.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I said it during the draft. I thought he was
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: the best third round pick. I think he's going to
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: be an incredible red zone target. He had a again
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: back of the end zone. He's just you know, corners
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: are five to ten. He's six four and long. I
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: mean he looks like he's got like an NBA length.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: He is a long player, a little like George Pickens,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: where it's just it's catching radius is a problem for
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: a smaller corner. So I thought the Giants looked a
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: little disjointed. It's a new system. They weren't playing one
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: of their They played the rookie offensive linemen. He looked
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: pretty good out of Miami. I thought he looked pretty
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: good Mali Noah Malchi Fields look really good. Rvel Reese
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: is incredibly active. But Jackson Dart, you know, Brian Flores
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: loves to blitz, just got just got knocked. It looked
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: like he got knocked out for like two seconds. And
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Dart after the game said, you know, listen, he goes,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I just end up
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: in that blue tent. And as I watched that sack,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: my takeaway was, I don't think I ever saw Brady
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: in his last ten years get hit like that. I
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: wonder how much of that is Jackson Dart's inability pre
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: snap to negotiate out of that and audible out of that,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: because that's the kind of hit that I mean, honestly,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: you know, Manning mahomes Brady, these guys that master the pocket,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: they don't get hit like that a lot. So I
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: think some of that felt like, Bro, you got to
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: see that, You got to see it before it happened.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Well, if I was defending him, I'd be like the
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: running back Whift last year. He was running into guys.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: The running even Hardball said after the game on that place,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: like we got to block it. It's also a pretty
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: tough block the running backs way to the riot. He's
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: got to step back in the dude just he had
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: no barely even touched him. Now you can argue of like,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: who you're playing is a guy that will bring the
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: house on every single play. You have to be completely
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: aware of that. And if you even get the one
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: percent chance this guy could come in my running backs
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: one on one, I gotta not only be aware, I
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: probably gotta get rid of this ball fast. And that
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: that's part of football. Of this goes back to the
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: golf and that previous era. Philip Rivers knew he couldn't
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: run away for any Eli Manning, Peyton, Manning, Brady, they breeze.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Their whole game was predicated on worst case scenario. The
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: ball has to be out of my hand. These guys,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: these athletic quarterbacks, go, well, shit, I'll just figure it
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: out if worst case scenario, guys, I'll just do a
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: three sixty, roll around and run around. And that's where
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: you can kind of get the helter skelter, which is
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: the way he played last year. I do understand what
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: he's saying, because he's going to I just got hit,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: I get up, and they just make me go to
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: the tent. Well, part of that is one they're being
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: extra safe we can nippick that all we want, but
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: like also your history of you've got a concussion last year,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: you've taken a bunch of hits. Listen. I think sometimes
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: those type players the helter skelter, sometimes they work and
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: they work great. You know, Russell Wilson's the best version
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: I've ever seen of just for that four or five
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: years period. People can nitpick them all they want. I
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: saw that guy live in his prime. That's as good
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: as like.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: You never got a clean shot.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: That was incredible. I mean, ask anyone that played him
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: if he was as good as advertised I promised you
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: say that. They would say he was because he would
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: usually beat him. But most guys aren't that good doing that.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Watson had like a two year stretch where he kind
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: of played like that. And I watch him now, you
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: just saw him live. He looks like he's moving in
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: slow motion. Deshaun Watson's physical traits have disappeared. He can't move.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Jackson still can which on the on the touchdown pass
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: him rolling around. Sometimes that's a in a curse. If
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I know I have that in my back pocket, like
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: I have, I just do I need to see this
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: guy who cares and that's the balance of trying to run.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: I would say, like a structured offense can be difficult.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: By the time Mahomes and Andy, Andy had been coaching
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: the league for twenty years and had been around McNab
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: and far if he was just comfortable doing that. Look
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: at Allen and Sean. They kind of butted heads, right Lamar.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: They immediately just morphed the offense like what Lamar has
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: done the last several years did not look like twenty
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: nineteen when they just ran like a college running offense.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: So it's like they're going to try to make Dart
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: much more of like a normal passing quarterback and just
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: following Giants people online. I do think it's been pretty
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: bumpy in practice, so it's it's yes, it'll be fascinating
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: to see how this kind of goes. Like I It's
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: why I'm hesitant for for several reasons. I know, you
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: like the Giants to double their win total. I could
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: see them being dramatically better, but like it wouldn't shock
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: me at off they went went seven and ten, still
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: got some question marks on defense, but offensively could just
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: be all over the map.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Well, Isaiah, likely, I think it's going to be really productive.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Neighbors will come back. I think likely is one of
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: those under the radar picks that I mean, he was
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: a really good player for the Ravens. They had to
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: shed some money. I think he's really good. I think
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: fields at a Notre Dame at six to four is
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: a really interesting target. I think if Neighbors comes back,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: then I really really like their receiving car. I think
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: it's really good. Singletary and scataboo. That's a nice one
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: two punch. A lot of it to me comes down.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: They drafted interior o line, which I got heat from
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Giant fans. I'm like, listen, your your left tackle gets hurt,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: your right tackle's okay. The kid out of Miami may
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: be better inside than out, but you need a third
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: tackle somewhere in that building that you trust. Because Andrew
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Thomas is terrific, but he gives you about thirteen games.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: So I think if healthy, I really like the Giants offense.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: But it does come down to Jackson Dart and I'm
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: not blaming him for getting smoked. I'm not saying that,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: but I but you just don't see a lot of
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: the veteran quarterbacks. I don't remember Matt Ryan that many
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: times getting smoked. Why because Matt is so good pre
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: snap and you know, I just when I watched that,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: I thought, oh Jesus, that is you know, you know
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: it's obviously the running back with but it was pretty well, I.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Would say too Colin at this point. Now you have
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: last year where he took just hllacious hits and then
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: this hit, like he's either going to learn fast or
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: he's never going to figure it out. Like it's either
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: we got to pivot quick and be completely aware of
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: our surroundings. They're already pushing him to slide, which I'm
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: a believer. It's kind of an innate like you kind
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: of know that when you're ten, twelve, thirteen years old,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: right right. Usually sliders they've been sliders their whole life,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: and guys that just leap forward like Michael Vick Lamar's.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: So it's I would bet against it working at the
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: level I think people think it's going to work just
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: because history would say it doesn't like that you can't
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: really play helter skelter, but Harbaugh just has I would
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: say pretty good history with the mobile quarterback. Though you know,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Lamar came in the league Heisman Trophy winner, So I
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: mean it's a little different animal.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: So Fernando Mendoza. Let's go back to Thursday night. Raiders
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: lost to Arizona ten of sixteen at touchdown ninety seven yards.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: You know, there's two things, John that just work in
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: almost every field. It could be the medical profession, the
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: sales profession, finance teaching, athletics, maturity at a young age,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: and almost obsessive level passion. That's the one thing about Mendoza,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Like he after the game, He's like, I got nothing
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: to do. I'm going home and watching every snap. The
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: kid is completely obsessed and he is more mature than
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: the average, you know, twenty three year old kid. My
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: take was he made one or two throws, one really
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: good throw over the linebackers in front of the deep coverage.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I think he's he's a
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: legitimate two twenty to twenty eight. I think he's got
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: a really nice downfield arm. He's he's got a little
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Andrew lock. He's not that athletic, but he's not a
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: dinker and dunker. I mean he I think he led
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: college football in like yards per attempt. Like he throws
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: the ball down the field. That's why I keep saying,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: as much as I like Kurt Signetti, that team could
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: have lost four games last year. They should have lost
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: to Oregon, at Penn State and Miami, and maybe Iowa
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: had him beat. So I think Mendoz is a better prospect.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: I tend to think that if you're a B plus prospect,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: this is Dak Prescott. If you're a B plus prospect
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: with an obsessive work ethic, high maturity at a young age,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: and leadership qualities that ingratiate you to teammates, B plus
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: becomes a minus. You're not going to jump grad. Nobody's
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: going to be a C plus guy and ended up
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: being a B plus. I've been told that for years
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: by scouts you can jump half a grade off maturity
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: and work ethic. I mean, Tom Brady was drafted by
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: a major League baseball team. He is six' five and
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: did have by about year six a, really really good.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Arm he's one of the smartest guys that ever played the.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Position so, people, oh go look at that combine For. Brady,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: yeah he's a little he's, stiff and he's not a,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: runner but he moved as well in the pocket as
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Anybody i've ever. Seen he also is one of the
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: great bad weather quarterbacks because of his hip. Turn BUT
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: i look At mendoz AND i just think all the intangible.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: STUFF i, Mean dak was never a beautiful thrower to the,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: football But dak was so good at the. Intangibles his
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: tangibles were. Okay so to, ME i Think mendoz is
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: a better throwing version Of, dak where you're just getting, passion, maturity.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: LEADERSHIP i don't. KNOW i, mean there's JUST i don't.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Know most of my guys are mixed on. Him think
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: he's more of a late first round. Pick what did
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: you think of?
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: It, yeah to, me the late first round pick Like
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Ty simpson is six' to one ok arm one. Year
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Start fernando mendoz has been starting for. Several years just
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Won The. National Championship saw, signetti say you talk about
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: throwing the. Ball downfield he did this thirty minute sit
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Down With rhys davis and it was kind of, nerdy
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: football and he said he called more post routes this
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Year For fernando mendoza because he could execute. The route
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: he's like most teams have fast receivers that can run.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Post routes you don't feel comfortable making the call because
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: you can't block it and you can't hit it down.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: The field, HE said i threw more post routes and
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: called him this year than we had the last. Ten
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: YEARS so i actually think the comp not as, a
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Player Because drew Brees And fernando mendoza are. Completely different
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: but when you talk about, elite leadership elite, work ethic,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: elite desire ingratiates himself to everyone that wants to run through.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: A wall that's Kind Of. Fernando mendoza most of the
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: best quarterbacks kind. Of nerds they're just nerdy, for Football
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: like Peyton Dating. Tom brady, these guys they're the equivalent
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: of like some Engineer at apple that just spends all
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: their time on the computer trying to do whatever they're
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: supposed to do for. The company they. Just do they
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: give me the.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Cool guys let me give you the. Cool Guys, Jay Cutler,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Cam Newton, Drew Lock, johnny manziel like they were the,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: cool guys like people, were like, you know they were.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Cool guys, you know the guys. That Aren't andrew luck's
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: first preseason gave me was ten AND sixteen i thought it.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Was interesting mendoza's first preseason gave me was ten. Of
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: SIXTEEN but i do THINK they're i remember saying, YEARS
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: ago i Thought That sam darnold the Prototype Was. ANDREW
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: luck i said nobody can be as Smart, as LUCK
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: and i do THINK but i thought they, were athletic,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: not reckless but. Highly aggressive mendoza. Is aggressive he's not
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: as Athletic As. Andrew luck but there is something to
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: be said for when. They talk It's like gollie, g
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: like it sounds like. The seventies it's leave It, to
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Beaver and, I'M like i, DON'T know i find. IT
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: ingratiating i.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Like it even if you look At the luck era
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: from like when he came INTO, the nfl the next
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: three or four years Of like Shaw and. Stanford guys
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: most of those guys had long careers because. They're intangibles
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Like Even, solomon thomas who went, Third overall, you're, like
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: bust he's IN. The nfl he's gonna have a TWELVE year. Nfl,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: career yeah he didn't live up to, the hype but you,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: know why because they're they're intelligent. Their workout you can't
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: play physical football if you don't like. Playing football, To
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Me fernanda mendoza is THE play i will never forget
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: about his. College career won't be the dive in for
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: the touchdown Against Was, it miami won't be some of
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: the great toes he had to. Seal games it'll be
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: the first play Of The ohio state game when he
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: got hit which looked like you would get hit by
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: an ALL pro nfl, defensive line and, you're like he
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: just shattered, his ribs, his spleens into his into his, you.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Know vertebrae. He's done his. Season's over two, plays later
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: he shook it off and came. Running back, i'm like
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: this guy is tough as nails and it so, it's,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: like yeah he's, a nerdy tough guy who happens to
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Be Like andrew lack clearly pretty intelligent when it comes.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: To football not just like there's. A difference you can
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: be a. Smart guy there are a lot of. Smart
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: guys ONE thing i learned IN the nfl, is like
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: just because you have a four POINT oh gpa does
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: not make you a great football player in terms of.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Learning it because some, guys overthink some. Guys overanalyze but
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: when you can mesh. That up when the guy is
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: really smart and he learns football, very easily that is a.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Dominant Trait Like peyton Manning And. Tom brady they are
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: really intelligent guys who learn football at really, really high.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Seamless levels there are guys that go to these schools
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: that are four point oh GPAs and it's just they
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: just overcomplicate, Things right and, To Me fernando mendoza would
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: be in that category, of like is he? Too smart
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: and then you just watch him play the throw he
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: made that you're talking about the, touchdown pass getting rid,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: of it being able to get rid of the ball,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: really quickly accurately and just on a dot in the
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: right spot so if it, is complete it hits, the
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: ground not missing high in the red zone which can lead.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: To INTERCEPTIONS SO I I, fernando mendoza is he ever
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: gonna be the best quarterback IN? THE nfl i wouldn't
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: bet my life savings? On IT would i bet a
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: large percentage of my life savings and he's gonna turn
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: into a top ten twelve? ISH quarterback I Would i
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: just like you just bet on guys like that and
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: they're any they're kind of lucky and get they deserve credit.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: For this they're not gonna throw them out there because
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: their team's probably not gonna be. That good they don't
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: have the, great receivers their offensive line still got some.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Question marks, he'll play, you know Whether that's october first
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: or whether that's in the Middle. Of november but like,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: they were this is what a good. Organization did, they're
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: like we don't want to throw this guy out if
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: our team's not, good enough we have to find a. Good,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Backup well sean McVay Really wanted kirkcuszins to be, his
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: backup Really wanted remember at the, owner's meetings he was
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: like making. A pitch other teams did, as well all
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: these other we saw last Year When daniel jones and
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Like the minnesota wanted The back you've got to be
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: aggressive in, that market and. They were they finagled the
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: contract that kind of cooked the books a little On
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: the falcons and they got her cousins to basically throw To, the,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: wolves Right because i'm a, ROOT like i want them to,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: be competitive but more than likely in, their division it's
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: they're probably more likely to win six games than they.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Are Ten So jaden daniels had the best rookie quarterback
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: season in the history of. THE sport i mean it
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: was literally ARGUMENTS. For mvp the second year he, gets
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: hurt which has always been kind of the concern is
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: he is a Little teddy, bridgewater frame a. Little spindily
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: so we're going into year three in, my TAKE and i,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: SAID this i just they're the mystery team. To ME and,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I Thought, Jaden, daniels listen sometimes guys come into the
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: league and they got, a TEAM and I Mean lamar
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: jackson's mom was. His agent sometimes they have, a friend,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: a cousin a buddy, in COLLEGE and i. Understand it
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: it's comfort Somebody On jaden. Daniel's team this Is what
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: i'm guessing told, him, that man you got to GO.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: After lsu you you can't let them use your likeness
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: or your number that you WORE. At Lsu And jaden
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: daniels that, story LEAKED and i MEAN he lsu is done,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: with him that the scrutiny. Was APPROPRIATE and i was
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: just sitting, There, thinking Jaden, it's august It's. Mid august
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: who gives? A shit, i mean this is just zero.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Self awareness do you Think it's jaden or do you
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: think it's somebody that got in his Ear in, jaden's
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: team because all, THESE quarterbacks i mean they got managers
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: and agents, and ASSISTANTS and i. GET it i mean
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: that's it probably should and a lot of them use,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: you know a BUDDY at lsu or, you know a
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: cousin that you trust and you trust with your money
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: and your judgment that got. Your Back but jaden had
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: shown such great like maturity and for this to become
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: a story and kind of a volcanic reaction, myself included
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: which is bro Get At. Joe burrell they're using. His likeness.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Nobody cares that's a, college choice, you know if college
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: wants to retire, your jersey but that Very few tebow's
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: jersey isn't Retired, at Florida for. God's SAKE so i
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: just was kind of my take was this Couldn't be
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: jaden was just somebody get In, HIS.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah i think it's his mom and texting around and
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: listening to. Some stuff it's everyone thinks it's his mom
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: because his mom is. His AGENT and i think there's
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: a difference. Of, People one i'm all four parents being
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: involved in their. CHILDREN'S life i Actually got lebron's back
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: On the, Bronni, situation like what's the point in being
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: great and getting so much power and not wielding it
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: for your? Own, child LIKE if i, WAS him i
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: would have done the, same thing and so would. Most
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: people that's part of having, the juice you know. You
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: could it sucks if You're a, laker fan, you're like but,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: IT'S like i understand where he's coming from in this
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: situation when they put out a Statement from jaden, that
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: like my team Is, hand no this. Is you your
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: team doesn't have skin in, this game and you were
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: such a, huge part potentially for the rest of your
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: life of being ASSOCIATED with Lsu this heisman trophy to be.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Like one most schools do not, retire numbers and even if,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: they are, how often unlike, the pros do you find, out,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: like hey we got the number one. Overall quarterback he
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Hit Up, matt lioner he hit up so and so player,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: AT's program and they let him take. The number there's
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: one hundred guys on, every, roster right there's not enough
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: roster spots to take the numbers usually have. Duplicate numbers
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: the other thing is you were promised by a guy
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: who got fired AND laying i guess the corner that
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: has the number was like a top ten overall recruit clearly.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Told THEM if i don't, Get five i'm. Not hit
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: i'm hitting. The portal i'm out. Of here lane's like, numbers,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: yours bro which we all would have done if we
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Were in, Laane seat but for him to take it
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: this part of all the programs they would be on
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: the short, List OF like i wouldn't want this program
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: turned against me, their players, the program their fans like
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: you're a you are a sacred individual there for the
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: rest of, your life nil using my name image and,
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: like this like what are you're gonna make if things
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: go well? For you hundreds of millions? Of dollars it's
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: completely irrelevant and over a broken promise that good life
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: lesson handshake deals don't. Mean shit, you know get that
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: thing in writing if you.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Want, to well here's the. Other thing when somebody's famous,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: and rich you can have cousins and friends and parents,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: around you but they aren't famous, and rich and sometimes
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: like like, you know, Every Room jadeen daniels walks into
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: IN the dc area like he, stops traffic like everybody turns,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: and looks and you just have to be. More careful
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: you can't have a cocktail, in public you know. You
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: can't you can't argue with somebody. In public and it's
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: just like one of these THINGS where i, feel like,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: you know he let his mom take advantage, of it
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: and or he let his mom take care, of it
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden the thing unravels and then
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: it looks bad on him out with a, statement, Saying
• 40:01
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• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Picks But sam darnold voted on by PLAYERS The nfl top.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: One hundred donald was ranked twenty first and the fifth,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Highest quarterback and this goes to something. Players love athletic
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Players like westbrook was beloved by players even More Than
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: steph Curry because westbrook was just so sensationally and, you
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: know couldn't shoot bad hands for, a guard but got
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: he was just fun, to watch and he was tough
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: and strong. And Aggressive donald it's interesting to Listen to.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Seattle people his teammates, defend Him like sam is one of,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: those guys not the. Highest paid he really doesn't. Seek
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: publicity he's really EVEN when i saw him at, the wedding,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: you know he was at a wedding for was it
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: McCaffrey who got Married?
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: In rhodes was McCaffrey? LAST year a couple of years
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: ago it.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Was McCaffrey Was greg Olds And, Jonathan Stewart. SAM darnold,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: i mean you'd Have thought darnold was a, long snapper
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: like he is so. Low profiles he grew up in.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Ocean side he's a. Beach kid, you know, if jeans
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: flip flops AND a t shirt and, a Hat. That's
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: sam he just he's just the most normal guy in.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: The WORLD and i did think it was interesting that
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: players see him as a top twenty five player in the,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: league now as the fifth. Highest quarterback that's probably more
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: than most people want. A STOMACH but i do think
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: there is something to say there is Something about sam
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: is that in high school and college he was so
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: damn athletic that things did. COME easier, i mean, he
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: played he had a. Bad coach, in college he played,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: hero ball, you know And Beat penn state And beat
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: texas on just without a lot of talent around him
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: and not a lot of. Guys drafted he was just
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: and then he Gets To new york and the talent
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: stuff just doesn't work because it's such a. Dysfunctional ORGANIZATION
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: but I when i look at this and, people go,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: no way my take is just don't forget his last
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: YEAR at usc and go look at. His highlights how
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: much we All Love. SAM darnald i mean there was
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: he had a little bit of a hitch in. HIS
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: swing i mean a little bit of a hitch in his,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: throwing motion which he had to. Clean up everybody's, Got
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: SOMETHING but i think sometimes, we, think well it's. Just.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Coaching now People loved donald out.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Of.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: US see i remember his pro was like.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Televised live it was almost Crazy That baker mayfield went,
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: above him just, because physically, You know sam was on a.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: DIFFERENT level i think there are a lot. Of similarities sam's,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: More talented but when you just go through shit and
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: you're a high level guy and everyone likes you and
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: you come out on the. Other End When, alex smith
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: by the time he Got To, kansas city he was
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: a pretty weathered individual that had seen it all and was.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Completely unfazed but part of it was he wasn't like
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: bitter and angry throughout the process of. The, negative right some.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Guys thrive, you know what was your, old saying, you
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: know holding a grudges like chainsmoking HATE like i can't
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Live Like, Dave portanly, you know he could just be
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: anger at everybody and it gives. Him energy, FOR me
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: i GET so i don't like feeling like that all.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: The time i'm not driven. By, that, baker right is
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: clearly that feeds in Loves, the sam so you're your
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: personality like if, that does you need some of that
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: to get, your, Fire. Clearly sam whenever you watch these
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: preseason games once, or twice they will have a prominent
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: player on the team miked up with. The broadcaster it's
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: usually some sort of star power and a guy that's
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: really good with. THE media i remember a YEAR ago
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: i was Watching the vikings Game justin jefferson did the
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: entire Quarter With. Paul allen they're a guy and they were.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Just going it was like they were hosting. A podcast,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: i'm like this guy not only is an, incredible talent
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: but you could just tell super, high character, super smart just.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Super personable you know every team had ideally it's. Your
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Quarterback well seattle Watching the cowboy game, last night who
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: do they give the heads? To? Do sam and for
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: like ten minutes you, just watch he's they're asking him
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: gems on this draft class and. He's given it's just
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: that ability at football because you interact with so many other.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Human beings like, in basketball you gotta deal with four
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: or five guys on your team that, really matter maybe
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: even less than that two. Or three everyone else is a.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Role player you don't even need to be that nice
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: to your coach like, in football like your defensive guy's
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: got to play hard, for you let alone your own
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: five guys blocking for you and the other guys making place,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: for you and then your, coaching staff like your personal
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: skills are really. Really Important it's we've been pretty lucky
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: over the course of the last six seven years with
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: The Mahomes, lamar josh like these are incredible talents who
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: are even Obviously the Daks, the goths who are just like,
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: great guys and just if you have, a kid, You're
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: like i'd want my kid to look up to all.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: These guys IT'S why i When A deshaun watson's, situation
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: happens and other Positions Like, karyn arnold, you're, like yeah
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: it happens all the time with DB's and. Wide receivers
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: quarterback you're, like out, you know, you know because it's
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: just a. Non start roethlisberger could never really. Shake it
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: people are just. Like scumbag, you know you just you
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: don't because at quarterback typically It's Like, Drew Brees, peyton manning,
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: You Know. Eli manning it's like married bunch. Of kids,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: you know just everyone. Likes them they have friends all over,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: the place all, their teammates rich, and poor like the
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: practice squad guy will be like nicest guy in the
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: locker room, right there and that that matters so much.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: A quarterback And then sam's got a, Huge arm like
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: when you watch the highlights, from, this oh From This,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Hard knocks, you're like this guy can sling it like
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: as good as it gets IN, the nfl the power of,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: his arm and then the interaction with, his teammates who's,
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: like this it's why on that list he. WAS fourteenth i,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: just went you can't put to, one, year okay but
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: back to, back, years, like yeah he's got some flies
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: going to turn.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: It a TOTALLY different o, line, coordinator coach. Culture room
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: that's just that's. Just different that's that's a that's. A
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: trend now That's NOT.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Can I can i tell you? Something else how many
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Was the bears? Game, Packed.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Okay i'll tell. You that i'm so glad you. Asked
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: THAT so i Sat In, kevin warrens. THE president i
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: sat in his Box and kevin And Had. Newer davis
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: it was a lot of the executives For, the bears
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: and so it was really interesting their analytics, head guy
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: not only for the, football part but for the front.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Office part their analytics crew is. Really Sharp and i'm sitting,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: there asking, You know kevin about like football stuff off.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: The FIELD so i went down to the field watched the,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: warm UPS but i was really interested in the analytics of.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: THE business i met, the chef, you know the team
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: guy running that like that kind of stuff. Fascinates me IN,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: the NFL and I mean kevin like, he said oh.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Don't know we just like he could follow the attendance to,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: the minute like he knew when people were going through
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: and so, by halftime because there was an air show
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: going On, in chicago and that meant the traffic was worse,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: than average so they weren't there for a lot of the.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: First quarters he had the. Air Show the cubs and
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: the cards their biggest, rivalry is, you know forty minutes up,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: the road and you Had the. Bears game it was
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: seventy five, percent full and it was Interesting because john
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: it was the last row in the stadium had as
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: many it's the. First row so it was not like
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: the bad seats. Were, OPEN no i mean it looked
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: like by the end of. THE game, i left end
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: of the, THIRD quarter i Turned, TO kevin, I met, i'm,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: like man you got to be happy with This. At
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: tennant's this is crazy considering you have The. In chicago
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: the air and water show. Is massive it's. Just gigantic
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: and Then the cubs are playing the Red hot cubs
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: are Playing, the cardinals and it was it felt like
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: it looked like it was ninety percent full and it
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: was about seventy.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: FIVE because i turned On The SEATTLE cow i was
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: trying To get jack to sleep. Walking around that game
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: kicked off at, five O'clock so i'm watching the pregame
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: and then they kick off and they show. The stadium,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: i'm like it doesn't look like there's an, empty SEAT
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: and i get, it's cowboys but still, backups everywhere. No
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: STARTS and i, started thinking because we last week on
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: your show talked a lot about the sale Of, the
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: Lakers and i've listened to a lot of discourse about
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: these rich guys. Getting involved it's much different than the
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Than The, Al Davis george steinbranner types that it was their.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: Life RIGHT and i, just thought and even some of
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: the other conversation around some of these, purchases, are well,
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: this guy like the guy that just Purchased The, seattle
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: seahawks he owned a piece Of. The niners his son
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: works For. THE niners a lot of people think he
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: bought the team For his niners must be or for
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: his son must, be, nice, like well He's a niner fan.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: At heart Or the, Laker Guy bob eiger Likes. The knicks,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: i'm like once you purchase one of. These teams anyone in,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Any Business like i'm forty. YEARS old a lot of,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: My friends i'm a generation where unlike, my parents they've
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: had seven. Different, jobs right MOST people i knew, grewing up,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: my parents their friends had kind of the same job
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: most of, their life did not. Change companies when they
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: change companies LIKE well i used to, do THIS now i.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Do that they're come just. ALL in a lot of
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: them working these tech companies gets like. STOCK options i
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: got skin in. The game there's kind of numb to it, and,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: business well so are these People that, it's, like well
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: he's not gonna he's gonna treat the team more like.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: A business i would agree if like a hedge fund
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: was buying, these, things yeah they would look. At it
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: if an individual, buys this whether they used to Be
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: a knicks fan and now they Own, the clippers or
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: whether they used to Be a niner fan and now They.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: Own seattle once you're there and these are, your people
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: and you're working WITH the gm and the coach, And
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: one seattle's got to be one of the greatest purchases
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: in the history of. Professional sports given their infrastructure and
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: their setup for the next couple, of YEARS but i
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: think like you just kind of become all in on
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: what you're working on and what you're. INVOLVED in i
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: didn't root For the eagles, growing up AND then i
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: got hired by HIM and i was. All in it's
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: kind of, the WAY like i just think that the
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: conversation around some of these purchases and people not caring
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: because it's more like a spreadsheet. To them as long
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: as there is an individual at the top that is
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: the most vested he, ESPECIALLY nowadays i think he's gonna
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: treat it very heavily because it's such a. Public job
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: you will get drugged through the mut if you do.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: A Shit DAVE tepper's, i think widely considered one of
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: the greatest guys in the History Of, wall street viewed
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: as a genius when it comes to making created his,
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: own company and then one like a twenty five year
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: runners listen to a podcast that returned better than any
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: act of fun and like the history Of the internet
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: during that run from like nineteen ninety eight up until like,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty and he's a Buck Of carolina panthers and
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: everyone just. Starts talking when has anyone ever said anything
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: negatively about him in the. Finance world, if anything he
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: was held up like a like a like He was.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Jesus crushed for three years Kind.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Of yeah and if this year doesn't, Go Right jimmy
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: haslam has this fortune is going these guys that you
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: have way more pressure on you doing this because of
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: how public facing the. GIG is i just think that
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: people are worried, about that like this is going to
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: be treated like your. Average company you can't, it's important
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean you're gonna get, it right doesn't mean it's gonna.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Go Well but I'm watching seattle thinking like if you
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: just bought, that team even if you were a fan of,
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: another team once you started going to these Games around John,
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: and mike you'd just be like the chests be in
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: the middle of the table in. This ORGANIZATION.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: If i said, to you the sixth most important people
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: IN an, nfl franchise take the, owner out you Buy.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: The seahawks they have arguably THE best gm in, his
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: prime top three coach in, his prime top ten quarterback in,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: His Prime, charles cross top ten tackle in, his prime almost,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: top ten top, five corner maybe the second first second. Best,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: corner witherspoon the best wide receiver or. Second best look
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: at the positions, that, matter, weapon, corner. Tackle. QUARTERBACK Coach
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: gm seattle is like one. OF one i mean Even
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: the rams have an old quarterback like the Like the
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: seahawks of the eight. OR nine, I mean I Guess,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: DeMarcus lawrence this will be the. Last year they're probably
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: missing a all time great. Edge rusher outside, of, THAT like,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: i mean they haven't missed on a top two draft
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: pick in like five. Four YEARS so, I mean i when, people,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: say oh nine billion dollars rev, new machine most popular
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: team not only in That, State, Alaska, Hawaii, Idaho, oregon
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: washington that's That's all. Husky fans like it's a five
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: state area by, The, WAY, vancouver bc That's all, SEAHAWKS fans,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: I said. Husky fans That's all. Seahawk fans seahawks own like,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: you Know. Southern vancouver they on that. Whole region SO
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: and I just i'm one of those that believes people
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: have been saying this. For Years When steve baumer paid
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: two billion bucks cash For, The clippers, i'm, like hey,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: no banknote so you're not gonna have. Any interest he's
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: not paying three for something. That's two it's you buy a,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: car cash he's never. Selling it and it's like if
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: you find a house on the Beach In manhattan beach
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: and it's listed at twenty million and you outbid and
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: paid twenty, Three, million well you're gonna make your money
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: back in about a year and a half if you're
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: never gonna sell it and you want it to be in.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: The family? Who, cares honestly who cares if you have.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: The MONEY so i tend to think you cannot overpay for.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: A Franchise but seattle has literally these seven or eight
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: most important things from, left, tackle, quarterback, CORNER weapon. GM
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: coach I mean mike McDonald could coach there potentially for.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Fifteen years, you know in a day and age too
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: where everyone's on. Gop ones he looks like he's doing
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: hgh and we see.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: That guy, looks fantastic he's getting his arms getting bigger by.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: THE year i mean that guy is That that uh
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: you know the, preseason games you kind of start because
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: you're excited you see the brand and it Was Like,
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: cowboy seattle and.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: Then you're like two series in, you're, like eh this is, you.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: Know this is one of those, you're, like ah THAT'S what.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: I go i watched, two SERIES like i Watched the
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: bears to the end of the, third QUARTER but i
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: wanted To see. SHADOR playing i wanted To See, malik
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Muhammad the. OREGON safety i Met the oregon. Safety's dad
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: they got Him. From purdue if you remember, the kid
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: He's a, midwest kid great, great dad. Awesome DAD and
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: i mean he came right Over and i'm talking to
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: his dad and the over to, the sideline. So everything
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: when you're on, THE field i just don't think the.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Average fan some of. These guys there are, six six
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty pound guys and their, flat bellies
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: they have NO fat i saw a couple Of the
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: bears guys that. Were out they weren't gonna. Play right
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: they just had him in sweats and. Their Linemen and
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: i'm Just, LIKE jesus, I mean i'm bigger than the.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Average man it's six two. BUCK ninety i look like
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: these guys.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Little KIDS when i went into radio and started going
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: from just football games to All the warriors games and,
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: baseball games, you know you go TO, the nba they got.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: Tall guys, BUT besides i remember Thinking Like klay thompson
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: had a lower body that reminded ME. Of nfl he
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: had thick thighs and like his legs. Were thick but
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: you'd SEE some, nba guys it's like this guy might
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: not even weigh one hundred. Ninety pounds he's six. Foot nine,
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: you know there are a Lot More kevin durantz There than.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: Shaquille o'neils and say thing with baseball when you go,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: to football beside maybe some wide receivers, and dbs everyone
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: is small guys. Two twenty you get, the linebackers they're,
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: two forty and these guys have no body fat and
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: anyone playing on the line, of scrimmage they would be
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: the biggest human being if you just see them walk
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: by them that you would see in society for a
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: year plus just doing everything you do.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: In Life, JALEN johnson i went To the. Bears practice
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: he comes up to Me because i've had him on
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: BEFORE and I, know jalen he. Knows me he comes
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: over to me, after practice takes his, helmet, obviously yo
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: and he comes up and we. Pat. Down DUDE when
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: i grabbed, HIS shoulder i could. FEEL it i could
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: feel the layers, of muscle like. His hall it was
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: just like his wrist. Was thick i'm just like what
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: you think.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: About, it see it's the only sport where you lift
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: more than, you, Play, right baseball basketball you don't lift
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: more than you. PLAY football i mean even during season
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: you're lifting two to three times, a week and then
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: the off season some of these guys five to SIX so,
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: i mean and they're already genetically the cream of.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: The, Crop, yeah no it's just A w I'M just
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: i appreciate going on the field for fifteen minutes and
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: watching back of the, end zone watch the lineman go through.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Their work, you're like what do?
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: You Love? WINNING comet, i mean how good do those two?
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: GUYS look i mean they are just what? Are they six?
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Four To? WHAT'S loveland?
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: I was i was in A Usc notre, dame Played
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: And cole comet was in. The booth he. Came home
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: he was actually visiting SOMEBODY in LA and i saw
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: him up on the, Press Level, cole comet and he.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Came over a. Nice Guy. Notre dame guyser was Great
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: And jesus. COLE is, i MEAN it's i mean like
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: six five and, a half two, fifty five, you know
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: wearing a golf shirt and, you're, like well there was
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: a bench they benched three forty five.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: Multiple times you were probably talking to. The chef but
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: there was a play probably in like the second quarter
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: of that Game where rausch was in and, you know
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: they but all they losted a couple of runs in,
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: that game and they, YOU know I Think jim miller
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: is the color guy for the preseason For. The, bears
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: yeah and It Was sam rousch on a down block
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: and it was JUST and i went, Right, away yeah he's,
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: sixty six two sixty five and what do you how
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: big do you think defensive ends IN? THE nfl, nfl
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: are especially backups? Like That didn't they kind of get
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: criticized for. That pick, it's like why are They Taking? Sam,
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: roush well he's kind of like a. Third tackle.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Let me tell. YOU something, i mean it's just Amazing
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: because loveland, PRACTICE today i. SAW him i don't Know if,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: Comet did, loveland Did and. Rausch, Did dude rausch does
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: not look like. A rookie he he was the best blocking.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Tight end Him and Delp. From Georgia's the Saints. Drafted
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: delp he was a tight End. From georgia he, can
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: block and that's rausch. And it but when you, watch
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: him and by, the way one thing offensive, COACHES love,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: i mean it's hard to get on the field as
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: a tight end if you, don't block like if you.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: Don't blog that's why tight end can be a tricky.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: Rookie season roush will play twenty five snaps a game
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: like he is just he. Just Lot Remember mark bruner
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: for years played like For. The seers he Played. At
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: washington he was my. Dad's accountant he played high school
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: football in my hometown and got drafted and his dad was,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: a massive. MASSIVE man i saw him a couple of
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: times with, my DAD and I Remember mark bruner went
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: to That great husky team that won the national championship
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: and he was like the only freshman that like played
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: and They Asked don james, about it and, he's, like
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: yeah after about, Two practices, i'm like he's the best
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: blocking Tight end i've had in the history of. The,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: program like if you, can, block coaches it's like they
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: used to say, in basketball if, you rebound it's hard
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: to take you off. The floor you equal possessions if.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: You block as a tight end and. CAN catch, i
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: mean it's just it's hard to not, YOU know i
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: mean you can how do you take? It off? You
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: Know because loveland, may block but he's not known that
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: he's a stretch the. Field guy but it's it's INTERESTING
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: when i go there to watch all the rookies play For.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: The bears all of them are going to contribute, as
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: rookies all.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: Of, them yeah concept. She owned he had a couple
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: of sweet little. End rounds he. Can, fly No, He's.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Cleveland cleveland they. Found one they just can't get to,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: the call but they use jet sweeps and. Ends around
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: he is a. Special player he.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Can fly their quarterback situation browses an't going to win
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: a lot. Of games their quarterback situation is. Not good
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: but he's he's got a chance to do some things.
• 1:01:30
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