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- 0:00We are here now with Dr. Smirti Agarwal. And
- 0:03I met her at just an event a while back. And so you
- 0:07have been on my list to have on this podcast of someone I wanted
- 0:11to have on. She has been a successful entrepreneur and
- 0:15has taken a step back from the first company and is launching a new
- 0:19one. But I want to just start all. And the new company
- 0:22is very helpful for new entrepreneurs. But I want
- 0:26to start at the beginning and have you tell us about your first
- 0:29journey into entrepreneurship and what that was all about.
- 0:33Yeah. So thanks, Mary. It was so exciting to
- 0:37meet you at that networking event and I'm so glad we met.
- 0:41So. Yeah. So I'm Smriti. I started
- 0:44my journey as a grad student. So I was doing my PhD
- 0:49in genetics. I was working on neurodegenerative,
- 0:53rare neurodegenerative conditions that lead to blindness. So I was
- 0:56understanding both the cause of it, like looking at patients and
- 1:00understanding the cause of these rare diseases. And then also
- 1:04I had the fortune of working on a
- 1:07therapy. So I worked on gene therapy, which is a treatment
- 1:11for these children. And so while I
- 1:14was doing my PhD and I actually had just started
- 1:18my first few weeks at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston,
- 1:23I was asked if I wanted to consider the MD PhD program.
- 1:27So in that, I said yes, and I will
- 1:31finalize and make this decision after. I have
- 1:34observed surgeries, like I've seen surgeons in action and I've seen the process
- 1:38and what it entails day to day. So I went and
- 1:41shadowed surgeons and really got into it. So I ended up shadowing,
- 1:45shadowing like hundreds of procedures. And I would go to training,
- 1:49like hands on training events, and I would go into surgery for brain
- 1:53surgery, you know, women's health, like
- 1:56hysterectomy procedures. I would observe a lot of
- 2:00oncology, like cancer procedures, pediatric
- 2:03procedures. And throughout this, I
- 2:07guess, process, what I understood was that the system is
- 2:10flawed. Okay. And why it's flawed. It's like, well, if
- 2:14your surgeon tells you that they're going to do their best, they truly mean
- 2:18it. But is that really the best for you? And
- 2:22that just. That's an interesting debate, I imagine.
- 2:25Right. And how they learn is it's a skill. And
- 2:29surgeons just like any other skill, they learn by practicing.
- 2:33So when you're practice, practice, practice, practice makes perfect and then you get
- 2:36really good at it. But when you're practicing, you
- 2:40know, overcoming the learning curve on patients, then that leads
- 2:44to compromise and quality of care that the
- 2:48patients don't deserve. But there is no alternative solution to
- 2:51this. Right. Because like I said, it's a skill. So
- 2:55I understood that problem. I really, like, had
- 2:59deep conversations with surgeons who were very vulnerable
- 3:02with me on this topic. And they explained to me, you know,
- 3:06what this. How this makes them feel, and, like, how this affects their day
- 3:10to day emotionally, you know, psychologically,
- 3:14all of that. And once I understood the problem, I started
- 3:17diving deeper into the solution. So that was the start of my first
- 3:21company. That's fascinating. So say the name again. Lazarus
- 3:253D. Lazarus 3D? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So tell us
- 3:29what that is. Yeah. So Lazarus 3D, it's a platform. And what
- 3:32we provide surgeons is the ability to rehearse
- 3:36upcoming cases before they operate. So let's say, you
- 3:40know, Mary had a surgery coming up and your doctor told you
- 3:43it's going to be really complicated. You know, I've not
- 3:47seen one like this before. What we do is we take your scans,
- 3:51so MRIs or CTs, and create replica of you
- 3:54of your organ with its disease and deliver it to
- 3:58the physician. So your surgeon will get a organ
- 4:02replica that is a copy of your specific
- 4:06anatomy, and it cuts and bleeds, realistically.
- 4:10So what that means is that surgeons can basically do a dry run of
- 4:13your upcoming case before they do it on you. And this gives them
- 4:18basically an unparalleled ability to not
- 4:21just validate their plan, but modify
- 4:25it and perfect it before they do it, before they have the real case.
- 4:29That is fabulous. And I don't really think I
- 4:33understood what that all was when you were first telling me about
- 4:36it. Oh, yeah, yeah, I can imagine. That's just so. I
- 4:40can see how that would be so helpful to a surgeon to have
- 4:44that and so comforting to patients.
- 4:47Yeah, yeah. And the patients often get to hold it too,
- 4:51like the replica of their kidney or their
- 4:55brain. And it just. I think it boosts confidence
- 4:59and it builds just confidence
- 5:03in the dialogue that you're having with the surgeon. Like, hey,
- 5:07yeah, you know, we're not just going into this blind. Like, I've really
- 5:11done, you know, the rehearsal, and
- 5:14I am going to be really genuinely providing you
- 5:18the best quality of care. That's awesome. Yeah. So as
- 5:22a. Because we're now at Reno Startup Week, I see you again, and there's lots
- 5:26of entrepreneurs here and there's a lot of tech here also. So much
- 5:29tech. Tell it. Give us some ideas on what was really
- 5:33helpful in building this. You had, obviously had a great model
- 5:37and there was a need there, so that's probably fundamental, I imagine.
- 5:41Yeah. So I think people start with an idea and
- 5:45then they come up with a solution and then they build a solution and then
- 5:48they try to sell it, right? We did not do that. Okay? We
- 5:52identified the problem, okay. And we worked
- 5:55alongside our customers who are physicians, surgeons,
- 5:59and these are best in class surgeons to build a product
- 6:02together with them with their input, with their insight, with their
- 6:06feedback. And we iterated on every,
- 6:10you know, advice, every piece of data point that
- 6:14we were generating from their, from, from the
- 6:17collaborations and together built that product, right?
- 6:21And we always kept patients first.
- 6:25Like that was really like the underlying,
- 6:29you know, principle was patients come first.
- 6:33And we're building this for the patients and we're doing it to
- 6:37empower their surgeons so that they have the best tools to provide the best
- 6:40care. So that's how we built it. And actually
- 6:44right at that, the beginning of it, when I
- 6:48never like exhibited my own company, I never built my own
- 6:52company. This was my first rodeo. And
- 6:55so we went to a trade show and at this medical
- 6:59conference, we showed up with our table chair or
- 7:02whatever and we'd set it up and it was a 10 by
- 7:0610 booth. So the surgeons we were working with were telling their friends about it,
- 7:10and their friends were telling their friends about it. And it was just all very
- 7:13organic until a point where a medical device
- 7:18marketing executive came by and said, oh,
- 7:22can you make this for me? And I was like, oh, you're, you're a medical
- 7:25device company, like, why would you need this? And then they told me
- 7:29that if I could create a bladder for them that had
- 7:34like different, like bladder, so there's polyps which
- 7:38are like cancer, they can be cancerous. So can you create
- 7:42a bladder cancer model for me that I want to,
- 7:47you know, demo my device on? Okay. I asked them,
- 7:50yeah, we could do that. And so I said that. And then I was
- 7:54like, what are you using today? And he said he was using a pig bladder.
- 7:57Like, literally, like they will go to the butcher shop or somewhere
- 8:01and get like animal parts or
- 8:05another company was using a bell pepper to do
- 8:09the cystoscopy. That's the procedure. That's fascinating, right?
- 8:12And so I was like, can you show me what you're doing? And they literally,
- 8:15they took me to their booth. And now these are like extravagant,
- 8:19you know, multi million dollar booths for these
- 8:23Fortune Hundred, Fortune 500 companies. So he
- 8:27showed me in this very extravagant booth,
- 8:31lo and behold, the pepper. And he was doing the
- 8:34demo on that pepper with all of the surgeons
- 8:38that walked by. And I was like, this is a joke.
- 8:42And he's like, nope, this is the best we have. Oh my gosh. Yeah.
- 8:46So then I was like, this is it. And we started
- 8:50like at that point, I went to every single exhibitor and I was
- 8:54like, what's your product? What are you doing to do your demos?
- 8:58And tell me, is that really like serving your
- 9:01needs? Like, are you happy with that? And that just
- 9:05opened up a entire
- 9:08division of the company which was focusing
- 9:11exclusively on medical education and training for
- 9:15new products. When they launch new devices to the market,
- 9:19they should be doing demos on things that are
- 9:22more human right and representation of the human disease
- 9:27than, you know, a bell pepper.
- 9:31I love that. So then you started doing that. Then we started generating revenue
- 9:35from that. And that revenue actually funded
- 9:38all the other things that we needed to do, like all of the material science,
- 9:42R and D, our patent protection
- 9:45for legal, our regulatory
- 9:49filings, like for the FDA, our
- 9:53hiring of the first employees. All of that was funded or not all,
- 9:56but a chunk of significant chunk of it was funded from
- 10:00revenue with these customers. That's
- 10:04fabulous. Yeah. So where is it at today? What stage is the company at?
- 10:08Yeah, so fast forward 10 years. So it's been 10 years, so
- 10:11that's okay. Yes. 10 years in the
- 10:15making. And you know, we broke a lot of things and we learned a lot
- 10:19of things in that process, but today it's already
- 10:22on the market. So the patient specific models are FDA cleared.
- 10:26They have billing codes for reimbursement. They are
- 10:30in large health systems across the country.
- 10:34And we also work with pretty much
- 10:38the best medical device companies that are global companies
- 10:42in providing them with demo units.
- 10:46So for, for hands on demo and training purposes.
- 10:50And their teams are so much happier,
- 10:54I can't imagine. Because it's safer for humans
- 10:57and safer for doctors to not freak out that they're
- 11:01not practicing on a human for the first time, really. But something more
- 11:05human, like to brilliant. They would have done training also
- 11:09on cadavers. So I just wanted to share that. Okay. So, so
- 11:13cadavers are like, you know, people and once they
- 11:16pass away, they want to donate their bodies to science. And so medical
- 11:20schools have these cadavers and you learn anatomy
- 11:24on that. Right. So you learn like you know, the different organ
- 11:27systems and gross anatomy. Right. But
- 11:31those cadavers don't have diseases. So if you're a brain surgeon
- 11:35trying to like learn how to treat a solid
- 11:38tumor in somebody's brain, you will not
- 11:42get that training from the cadaver because it doesn't have that
- 11:45disease. So this was sort
- 11:49of a big leap forward
- 11:53paradigm shift in how people learn and
- 11:57how people treat patients and all of that. That is amazing. I
- 12:01love that so much. Thank you for going into so much explanation
- 12:05because I don't think I knew all of that. Cause right now. So
- 12:08you're new to moving back to Reno or moving to Reno? To Reno. To Reno.
- 12:12Okay. Like me to Reno. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So I
- 12:16grew up on the east coast. I went to school in Houston. Then I moved
- 12:20to Oregon to build this company. And we moved to
- 12:23Oregon during COVID. Those were such good years,
- 12:27weren't they? Yeah. Yeah. So we had a business
- 12:31pivot where we were making, you know, 3D
- 12:34printing PPE supplies, and then we were sourcing
- 12:38supplies and became the largest supplier to the Harris County Health System
- 12:42in Houston. And then when that crisis was sort of
- 12:46marginally averted, we decided to
- 12:49go focus on the core products. So we pivoted back to
- 12:54our core technology, the patient specific models
- 12:57we were submitting to the FDA at that time. So it gave us that flexibility
- 13:00to actually, you know, move and
- 13:05find our facility. We wanted to be in Oregon or
- 13:08just west coast in general because for many reasons, but
- 13:12we found, we'd found a spot. So now we have a 25,000 square foot facility
- 13:16there. Okay. And it's doing well. So
- 13:20I last year exited. I'm in the process of
- 13:23exiting from my company. Okay. And that was
- 13:27like 10 years of go, go, go, grind and hustle, bustle. Right.
- 13:31Like, just no breaks. So this time I
- 13:35put the brakes and I took a break. And
- 13:39that was definitely the most stress,
- 13:43anxiety, PTSD inducing. Oh, no.
- 13:47Taking the break was the anxiety producing thing. Yes.
- 13:52At first I was like, yeah, you know, I need to step away. And
- 13:55I wanted to do that for many reasons.
- 14:00But after I did that, I was just like, really
- 14:03miserable. So I talked to mentors,
- 14:07I talked to advisors, I talked to other founders
- 14:11that had, you know, stepped away. And
- 14:15I just asked them, like, why did you do it? You know, how did you
- 14:18manage that and would you Recommend it? And 100%
- 14:22of them were like, yes, we recommend this. And
- 14:26their advice was to not dive into the next thing until I was
- 14:30really clear on
- 14:34whether I was ready for that next thing, to commit to it. And also
- 14:38just to reset.
- 14:43Your cortisol levels are so high because you've been in that
- 14:47fight or flight. Yeah. For so long. For a decade. And so
- 14:52they basically advised me that there was going to be a significant
- 14:56reset and there was an identity crisis where you're like, I was the
- 14:59face of the company, I was the founder and my public
- 15:03identity and Persona was tied to the brand
- 15:07that I built. And so everybody's
- 15:10like always asking you like, how's the company doing? And you have that
- 15:14hesitancy to say like, you know, actually I've taken a break.
- 15:17I've have sort of stepped away momentarily from
- 15:21that. And yeah, so that was
- 15:25last year. And then fast forward into
- 15:29it. I came to this realization that all
- 15:33of the problems that I was dealing with as a first time founder
- 15:37with my first company are real problems that every
- 15:40founder, every entrepreneur deals with. Right. This is not
- 15:45unique to me. Okay. I was not special. Right.
- 15:48And so how can I help those other
- 15:52founders, those other innovators that are also
- 15:56perhaps stuck in meaningful ways that
- 16:00helps them accelerate their journey without making
- 16:04the 500 mistakes that I made. And
- 16:08so this is leading you into your next thing, this thought? Yes. So this
- 16:11is leading to, you know, we're still at
- 16:15the very early stages of it, but it's my new
- 16:19venture, it's Atlas 360. So Atlas
- 16:23360, the goal is to go
- 16:26in and help startups. So I most,
- 16:30most of my background has been med tech and biotech and basically
- 16:36provide executive leadership where they need it most. And so
- 16:40it could be in operations when you don't have
- 16:44processes, you don't have systems in place and you're doing everything
- 16:47yourself. It's exhausting and it can lead to burnout
- 16:51and you don't want it to get there. So how can we
- 16:56get in there and address it before it takes the best
- 16:59of you from you? And then also
- 17:04when companies, you know, lots of people like build good products
- 17:07or solutions but they don't know how to bring it to the market or they're
- 17:11struggling and they're getting no's, or they're getting rejections and they're so like personally
- 17:15affected by that. Or a fear of
- 17:18success or a fear of failure or a fear of failure. Fear
- 17:22of talking about it, not knowing how to
- 17:26ask for help or not knowing why they should or when they should ask for
- 17:29help. Yeah, exactly. And can they ask for help? Because
- 17:33it's their company and you know, should. They
- 17:37may not feel comfortable asking for help. Right. And so
- 17:41it's difficult. And it's also difficult to find people that have the exact set of
- 17:44skills that you are looking for. And let's say you
- 17:48find that person but you can't afford them full time. So what do you do
- 17:52then? Right, so that's where I step in and
- 17:55I come in as a fractional C suite. So I can be
- 17:59your fractional chief operating officer or fractional
- 18:03chief commercial officer or chief strategy officer and
- 18:06basically, you know, get to the
- 18:10grind and help you with whatever your
- 18:14biggest urgency is. Right. Like you're always fighting fires. So
- 18:17having a lending hand in that can be really
- 18:21helpful and especially from somebody that's been there and done
- 18:25that and they know exactly what you're going through. The other
- 18:28thing that I'm really good at is product
- 18:32positioning. So when you have a product and
- 18:35you want to create a strategy, your go to market strategy
- 18:39and you want to bring in your first customers, paying customers,
- 18:44it can be overwhelming and it can take a long time.
- 18:48So how do we remove the stress from it
- 18:52or minimize the stress rather? And how do we shrink the
- 18:55timeline to commercialization and to
- 18:59revenue generation, which I think is like most important in
- 19:02any business. Oh, so yeah, so important. So those are. So
- 19:06that's you just laid out so much. So let me ask because this is
- 19:10a lot of stuff and I think it's important. I think there's, I've heard, I've
- 19:14met a lot of people in Reno that are doing fractional
- 19:17CEO or you know, that kind of. Can you explain to people who have no
- 19:21idea what you're talking about and they want to start a business maybe what that
- 19:24means and why that's beneficial. Yeah.
- 19:28So a fractional CXO, it could
- 19:32be CEO, it could be
- 19:35COO, CCO, doesn't
- 19:38matter. Is a person that has the
- 19:42expertise, ideally from experience building
- 19:45other companies in their past and they
- 19:49bring that expertise and you know, the breadth of
- 19:53what it takes to build a company. You know, you need to know like
- 19:57really everything. Right. So they bring that experience
- 20:00and expertise to you without you having to
- 20:04hire them full time. So they are sort of like, you can
- 20:08think of it as a consultant, but they're not just a consultant,
- 20:11they're operators. And so they're like helping you
- 20:15build a business. They're in it with you, next to you, you
- 20:19know, doing things, making things happen. So there's
- 20:23benefits to the company. The company doesn't have the
- 20:26overhead of the benefits like that they would have provided
- 20:30a full time employee. They also don't have the liability
- 20:34of hiring on the full time employee. Right. And it's
- 20:37also like low risk in terms of
- 20:41fit. Like if this individual is not a good
- 20:45fit for many reasons, cultural fit performance,
- 20:49maybe like, you know, whatever they are
- 20:53capable, whatever their expertise are may not be best aligned
- 20:57with what your needs are or maybe you know, you just want to go in
- 21:00different directions, you can go your separate
- 21:04ways. Right. Much easier. Yeah. So it
- 21:08really is a good start soft spot for companies where they're like,
- 21:11man, I really like need a clone of me today and I
- 21:15wish that clone existed so I could grow my business and
- 21:19like go from my six figures to seven figures or seven figures to eight
- 21:22figures. But I can't hire them full time. Maybe because
- 21:26you're a beta positive but you're not profitable
- 21:30or you just don't want to take on that risk of
- 21:34bringing in a full time C suite. Yeah, that's very, very good.
- 21:38So how would someone, would they hire you month by month? Is there a
- 21:41certain time frame that you get hired for? Yeah, so I
- 21:45mean that's a good question. I know you're still
- 21:49developing this. Actually like I've never asked this question, so I don't know how it
- 21:52works. So it's a contract and like every
- 21:56other standard consulting contract, it's on specific,
- 22:00whatever terms you negotiate. So it could be, you know,
- 22:04like for this duration or, or it could be milestones. Like I want
- 22:07you to help us achieve this X milestone. Yeah. And
- 22:12you know, like help us get there. And it's not really
- 22:16about time because time is actually
- 22:19very, it's a vague concept in startups. Like
- 22:23sometimes it's moving so fast where you don't even remember.
- 22:27Like, like, oh, it's, you know, a whole week
- 22:30has gone by and you still feel like, you know, where are we in this?
- 22:34And sometimes it's so slow moving like you're waiting for a customer to
- 22:38find close a deal and you're like, man, like it's been five minutes
- 22:42and why are we not done with it yet? Right. So yeah, big
- 22:46concept. But I like to be like goals
- 22:50or outcomes, focus. So yeah, that makes sense. Want to structure it and I have
- 22:54been structuring it that way. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. So go to
- 22:58market strategies. I know I had even referred a friend to you
- 23:02for a go to market strategy. So what is involved in that? Yeah,
- 23:05so you know your industry, you know what you're
- 23:09building, you know your target customer. Right.
- 23:13But you don't have a complete
- 23:17like mapped out plan of how you're going to
- 23:20get the product to the market. So you may
- 23:24have an understanding of the need
- 23:27and why the solution is serving that need. But how do
- 23:31you communicate that to your target customers and how do
- 23:35you actually. So essentially in
- 23:38marketing we talk about buyer Persona. So
- 23:42that's part of the go to market strategy is like you're building the buyer Persona,
- 23:46you're building your beachhead customers, your first early
- 23:49adopters who are going to be your early customers. And they're not going
- 23:53to ask you questions like who else are you working with? Right.
- 23:57Like, they need it and they will use
- 24:01it. They will be your first customer. So how do you make that happen?
- 24:05So all of those components are part of this
- 24:09strategy that allows you to stay focused.
- 24:13And essentially it's like a blueprint for how to get those
- 24:17early paying customers to buy your products.
- 24:21Yeah. And it may involve hiring too. Like, it may involve,
- 24:26you know, collateral creation, content creation. It may involve
- 24:30hiring a business development expert. It may involve a
- 24:34partnership with a strategic business or
- 24:37entity. It may involve
- 24:41strategy with contracting through the government
- 24:44agencies. So you have to, you know, there's like
- 24:48so many different things. There's so many different things. Yeah. Involved in that initial process.
- 24:52Yeah, yeah. And I've owned a business and I think I did it all wrong,
- 24:55you know, but it was Covid era and I was just, you know, I was
- 24:58an island unto myself. Way too much so in a very
- 25:01techie ish. Well, you know. Yeah, it was
- 25:05online sales and shipping, which is tech enough for me. You know,
- 25:08logistics, all the logistics stuff was not necessarily my
- 25:12forte. So there's a lot to it. I know there's a lot to it. And
- 25:15running your own thing. And I know you're giving a talk tonight, which we're going
- 25:18to be at, about using different AI
- 25:22tools. Yep. So tell us what you
- 25:26know on that or what you recommend. Yeah. So when I started my
- 25:29journey, you know, 12 years ago, we didn't have.
- 25:34Or maybe they existed, not that I was aware of at that time.
- 25:38And, you know, nobody was like robustly using it and there was
- 25:42little awareness of it. So fast forward to the last
- 25:46few years. We've had these tools that really have been
- 25:50so pivotal to making life
- 25:53easier. Like for a founder or an entrepreneur, a
- 25:57creator or a business owner, where,
- 26:01you know, traditionally I would have hired a team. Like I would have hired
- 26:04a agency to do my marketing work or an agency
- 26:08to do X, Y and Z things
- 26:12that I needed done. Like if I wanted to create a product
- 26:16book, I would have brought somebody in to do that.
- 26:21Today, there are tools that can help you get there.
- 26:25So in as little as 30 seconds, I can get like a first draft
- 26:29of my product deck completed.
- 26:33And yes, it's going to be atrocious.
- 26:37Totally not to your satisfaction or
- 26:41may just be completely off too, but it still
- 26:45really is helpful. And so there are Tools like that, where I have
- 26:48been using those tools and leveraging them to expedite
- 26:52the process. And instead of sitting there and
- 26:56every image with every text box and
- 26:59whatever margins, I don't have to do that. You know, there are tools
- 27:03that automate that process for you. And then same thing with
- 27:07like basic things like spelling, grammar,
- 27:10even writing an email draft, there are tools that can help
- 27:14you with that. So I don't think you can solely rely on them.
- 27:18And yes, Everybody is using ChatGPT, which I think that's a good place to
- 27:22start. But there are much more sophisticated tools that are like,
- 27:26tailored to the specific needs
- 27:30and they provide tailored output for that specific
- 27:35area of your need. And I think
- 27:39like. So actually there are more than 70,000
- 27:43AI tools and apps on the market. Today, which is
- 27:46overwhelming, right? And we know of like ChatGPT, but there's
- 27:502000 generative AI tools.
- 27:53Okay. It's a lot, right? And so you can't,
- 27:57I mean, you could just trial and error and like sift through them.
- 28:01But my talk is focused on the ones that are
- 28:04tried and true, the ones that I have worked with.
- 28:08And yes, there are some
- 28:12tips and tricks, tips and tricks, right. On how to use them and
- 28:16how to optimize and even really like what the
- 28:19intended uses versus how I use it is different in
- 28:23some instances. So I'm going to be sharing that. Okay, you want to talk about
- 28:26the specific one right now? We're going to do it now. Yeah, sure. So
- 28:30I think a good one would be like,
- 28:34customization for the ChatGPT
- 28:38where you can create your own ChatGPT
- 28:42and it's a prompt engineering, but it can be pretty simple,
- 28:46especially if you have a sort of
- 28:50a outline for how you're going to prompt it.
- 28:54Then it can really help you build
- 28:57a custom GPT that you can rely on for business development
- 29:01or marketing, content creation, whatever.
- 29:05And the other tool is Gamma AI. So Gamma AI.
- 29:09I have been using it for quite some time. I really like it. It helps
- 29:13create pitch decks, it helps create product decks, it helps create
- 29:17marketing content, like, with ease. Yeah. And I was
- 29:21just talking to you about this because you sent that to me and
- 29:24Erika actually had already heard about this and heard some good things about
- 29:28it. So I, for the talk that I was giving, I put it,
- 29:32I used Gamma and then realized it didn't translate to
- 29:35Keynote, but I didn't know that. So. Yeah, but it did help kind of
- 29:39give me, made me go, oh, like this is. I think it saved
- 29:43me some hours on that initial to Just kind of put my thoughts. This
- 29:47is the first time I had given the talk that I gave this week.
- 29:51So, you know, creating it from scratch and
- 29:55making sure in your brain you're actually wanting it to be what it is. So
- 29:59that was a helpful tool. So why that one though? Why do you
- 30:02like that one? Why? I like Gamma. So I've used so many other tools.
- 30:07So I've used Gemini, which is integrated with Google
- 30:10Slides. I've used just ChatGPT. Of course it
- 30:14doesn't like. It gives you ideas and it can create your
- 30:19maybe outline, but it's not going to
- 30:22build a deck for you. Then there is beautiful
- 30:26AI. There are so many. There's Canva AI, there are so
- 30:30many others. I like Gamma because
- 30:34it has different, like, sort of starting
- 30:38points. So you can feed it your entire outline
- 30:41and you can feed it additional, like knowledge
- 30:45and ask it to build a deck from that
- 30:49database or content that you have
- 30:53provided it. Or you can start with like a blank
- 30:56slate. And it's like, hey, you know, I'm feeling really lost
- 31:00and I am feeling low energy and just, you know,
- 31:04too stressed right now to give it all this
- 31:08intake. So I'm just going to give it like a glimpse of what
- 31:12I want my presentation to be on. Okay, it
- 31:16will start there. And the output, I think it's like,
- 31:20you know, decent. Right. So I have
- 31:24high standards, but I think that if you prompt it well
- 31:28and of course what you put in is what you get out, but if you
- 31:31prompt it well, it will do a decent job of your first
- 31:35draft. And from there I can iterate and
- 31:40modify it to my liking. Yeah, Which I think that's one of the best
- 31:44things about AI is that you don't have to start with a blank slate. So
- 31:47sometimes the blank slate is what's most intimidating. But if there's something in front of
- 31:51you that you can go, yes, no, yes, no, edit this, yes, no, yes, no.
- 31:54I think you can just get rolling a so much quicker. Exactly.
- 31:58That's my talk. So it's blank to brilliant. Oh, good. All
- 32:02right. I just landed on that so fast, didn't I? Went from
- 32:06blank to brilliant. It's a really good name too. So I love that.
- 32:10I'm looking forward to seeing it. So tonight that's going to be fun.
- 32:13So question with chat. So with ChatGPT to get to that.
- 32:18So it's just driven, custom to you. Is that like
- 32:21buying it at the different level and then doing customizations from then
- 32:25or what do you do with. That if you're a solopreneur or you're just
- 32:28starting out, the plus works. So I think
- 32:32that's like the $20 mark.
- 32:36$20 per month, I think. Yeah. And you do have to have the,
- 32:39the paid version of it because it is a custom
- 32:43feature and I think it's, it's a
- 32:46fantastic tool. So. And it's well worth it. So you, you're still going to be
- 32:50able to do all the regular chat things,
- 32:54which I use it for so many different
- 32:58purposes today, like even organizing
- 33:02my to do list or you can prompt it to
- 33:06put reminders for you in your Google Calendar.
- 33:09So there's those features, but the
- 33:13custom GPT, basically
- 33:19you can prompt it and you can make it be as specific as you would
- 33:23like or you can be a little more generic.
- 33:27So if you're being specific, you can tell it like, what's your brand? What's your
- 33:30brand identity? You can put your brand book in it. Perhaps it wants
- 33:34to know your mission vision. Like, you know, it wants to know your core values,
- 33:38it wants to know your product like it wants to
- 33:41know your pricing so that it has all this information.
- 33:45And as you are brainstorming ideas with
- 33:49it or running different proposals through
- 33:52it, you can rely on it because it's going
- 33:56to talk to you as a professional and it's going to.
- 34:00Only you can limit its data source, so
- 34:04you can limit it to the information that you have provided it.
- 34:07So there are all these different,
- 34:11I guess, components of, of the custom GPT
- 34:14tool that optimizes your
- 34:18productivity, like to the next level. Yeah, I love that. And especially
- 34:22when you're a solo entrepreneur or you're just starting out, there's not a lot
- 34:25of money and you got to pay your bills and fund your
- 34:29business and so, you know, skipping steps that you'll get to later. I
- 34:33know like with our podcast, even we, we are still going to use
- 34:37a graphic designer to do the logo, but we just haven't done it yet.
- 34:40So we did something that's kind of simple. I think it was Canva or something
- 34:44like. But so we kept it simple until you're ready to do the
- 34:48bigger thing. And that's kind of how you
- 34:51start things sometimes. Yeah. So that's your mvp. So, you
- 34:55know, minimal viable product is a perfect place to start
- 34:59and, you know, leveraging the custom GPT
- 35:02to make it what you need or what you want it to be. It
- 35:06could be your executive assistant, it could be
- 35:12your executive business director,
- 35:16it could be your legal right. I mean, you don't take legal
- 35:20advice from It. But a good first pass through, you.
- 35:23Know, for just basic ideas before you go to someone
- 35:27who really knows this stuff. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah.
- 35:31So this is just. You're just starting this out and
- 35:34do you have kind of. Is there a way for people to find you yet
- 35:37or you're not quite launched it yet?
- 35:41Yeah. So most of my, most
- 35:44of my engagements have been organic. So it's people in my
- 35:48circle that know me. You know, I have a fairly large
- 35:51network so they can find me on LinkedIn.
- 35:55So just Smriti Agarwal on LinkedIn
- 35:59and connect there. Yeah. But yeah, I'm not
- 36:03like advertising it or really
- 36:07I don't have a website and I don't know if I will need it
- 36:12and I don't want to have a whole pile of clients like, you know, it's
- 36:15a boutique service, so. Right.
- 36:19Yeah. There's a limited thing that you'll do with it. Yeah. How did you
- 36:23find out about Reno Startup Week? And like, I know you're volunteering here and
- 36:26helping. Yeah, so I found out about Reno Startup Week
- 36:32through one of the speakers who's, you know,
- 36:35I've known Christina for a little while. Yeah, I know Christina. Yes, yes,
- 36:39yes. And we were just talking to her, I was asking her, I was like,
- 36:42hey, can you tell me more about, you know, like the
- 36:46network here for entrepreneurs, innovators?
- 36:50And I just wanted to mingle and like get to know the community
- 36:53and see where I can support people. You know, I'm an advisor and a
- 36:57mentor to other early stage founders. And so she was telling
- 37:01me that I should come to, you know, Startup
- 37:05Week. And I was like, what is that? And she said, oh, she's a speaker.
- 37:08And I was like, like, what's happening? Like, I was just,
- 37:12what does that mean? And this was a few weeks ago. Yeah.
- 37:16So after she told me about it, I was very excited
- 37:20and also disappointed because I had not had a chance to like,
- 37:24you know, plan it in my schedule and like, you know,
- 37:28apply to be a speaker or, you know, panelists. And so
- 37:32at that point I reached out to the organizers and I was
- 37:36so glad that there was an opportunity to volunteer. I think that's
- 37:39good. Great opportunity. It's been great for me because I've get,
- 37:43I've gotten to know people, like folks from the government,
- 37:47the Economic Development office here In Nevada, the
- 37:51SBDC, you know, other entrepreneurs, funders.
- 37:54There are VCs here. So it's been really awesome. Yeah,
- 37:58it's such a good community. I'm so glad you're here. So. Okay. So personally,
- 38:02what brought you to Reno? Like, why did you choose Reno? Yeah. So
- 38:06you know how it is. Like, you know, you've been in the same
- 38:09place for so long and like, when you want to hit that
- 38:13reset button and you're in the same place, like
- 38:17your environment, it's going to impact you and it's like,
- 38:21who are you talking to and what you're doing in your day to day. It's
- 38:25going to be the same old things. So I wanted to sort of start fresh
- 38:29and hit the reset button. So I looked at options, you know,
- 38:33looked at Washington, California and
- 38:36Nevada. I like Nevada because of its proximity
- 38:40to Lake Tahoe. Tahoe is
- 38:44a good draw. I'm like, I would say a
- 38:48novice skier. Like, I'm on the blues right now, so. Nice. Good for you.
- 38:52Yeah. So I figured, you know, with Mount Rose being so close
- 38:55by and like, it being an affordable city
- 38:59and it being so close to the Bay Area,
- 39:03why not? So I took a leap of faith and landed in Reno.
- 39:06Yay. Well, I'm so glad you're here and I'm so glad I met you too.
- 39:10So. And I'm looking forward to tonight and ways that
- 39:14I know we're always looking to ways to make things go faster.
- 39:18Something about a podcast, which of course, we're not really doing this to make money,
- 39:22so something about a podcast needing to go be. Be really
- 39:25good, but also to get lots out on socials and
- 39:29interact in a way that's
- 39:32time is time. At this point, it's not even money, but we
- 39:36gotta make use of the time because we only have so much of it. Yeah.
- 39:39I mean, I know that all the tools help. Yeah, yeah. Other
- 39:43podcasters like the tools that I mentioned, you
- 39:46know, you could become a partner with them. They could be a
- 39:50sponsor for your podcast. Hey, well, there you go. Like, lots of
- 39:53podcasts, take note. Monetize. Yeah, yeah. Like, they'll put in the
- 39:57ad even if you're listening to the Spotify podcast. Like, they'll have
- 40:02featured brands, right? Yeah. Hey, over
- 40:05time, we'll grow as fast as we can, and we're going to do some of
- 40:08that stuff. So that sounds like a good idea. So thank you so
- 40:11much. Anything in closing that you want to add for this?
- 40:16Yeah, I mean, it's been good. And
- 40:20I think for anyone that is sitting
- 40:23with the idea in the back of their mind and just
- 40:27anxious or uncertain of, you know, should they do it,
- 40:30should they not do it, they should take a leap of faith and should just
- 40:33go for it and, you know, break things, make
- 40:37mistakes, don't be afraid, ask for help, get
- 40:40advice. You know, go to the people that
- 40:44came before you, like the people that have done it and have had success in
- 40:48their careers and learn from them. Yeah, for sure.
- 40:52Everybody is more than happy to give back, and everybody is more than happy to
- 40:55pass their knowledge along and just, you
- 40:59know, don't be your own
- 41:03bottleneck. Yeah, that's my advice. I love that. Don't be your own
- 41:06bottleneck. That is excellent advice. Well, thank you so much
- 41:10for coming on today and for just. I'm so glad I caught you.
- 41:14And like I had said, Erika and I set up out here and we have.
- 41:18We have had some scheduled this week and we have more scheduled this week, but
- 41:21today we're like, let's set up on campus. And as soon as we did, it
- 41:25started getting cloudy and then there was. It was noisy over there. It was
- 41:28noisy inside. And then everyone's kind
- 41:32of clear going to their different things. I think so. But I'm so glad
- 41:36I caught you today because you were on the list. I'm like, for a while,
- 41:39I'm like, I gotta get her on. So. Yay. Thank you to everyone
- 41:43listening so much.