Latest / Johnny's World / Episode 65-Dan Mullen

Transcript

Episode 65-Dan Mullen · Johnny's World

• 0:23
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to another episode of the Johnny's World Podcast.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_00: This is BW here.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_00: How are you doing today, Johnny?
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_03: Doing doing well, BW.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, another another week in the books from the college football season.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_03: So we're uh rolling along.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_03: It's already week three.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_00: Hard to believe it.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_00: Hard to believe that.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_00: Hard to believe it.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_00: We we narrowly escaped last week.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_03: So we'll man, I'll tell you what, you know, our uh I feel like in the last podcast I said something about our predictions seem to be right on the money.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_03: Go take her uh take her money and take it to the to the golden moon sports book and put some money down.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_03: Hope you didn't do that because we were a little off because I think we both expected him to uh to route Arizona.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, at the very beginning of the game, it looked like that's exactly what we're gonna do.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_03: And then lo and behold, we let him back in the game and and uh yeah, almost lost the dang thing.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_03: And we start running the ball, which is crazy considering how much we passed last year.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_03: Uh but hey, look, at the end of the day, it wins a win, and and we got the win as ugly as it might be.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_03: But I hope and that they worked on some stuff this week because with LSU coming into town, he play a game like he did against Arizona against LSU, allowable to get whooped.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_03: So um hopefully they they're figuring some things out, but uh it was ugly, that's for sure.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you know, folks, I mean, we can't get it right every week, but I'll tell you that consistency is key.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_00: So the Johnny Packer Vision Fund is still intact.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_00: We may have taken a little hit there, but just stay tuned for the the next predictions.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_00: We'll we'll guarantee to get it right most of the time.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_03: That's right.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_03: That's right.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_03: We're we're we're close on our predictions.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_03: And heck, we would have been close.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_03: It just uh they couldn't couldn't hold down uh Dolora, I think was the quarterback name for Arizona.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and you know, Arizona people were like, Oh, yeah, y'all should have smoked Arizona, but they're actually a pretty, really good team.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_03: Their quarterback is really good, I thought.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_03: And uh yeah, it might surprise some folks this year.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_03: They're not they're not a bad team at all, but definitely a team we should have won um easily with.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_03: But um, like I said, at the end of the day, I didn't even get to see the end of it.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_03: I had to had to go home and let uh let uh give Bo uh some medicine.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_03: I had we went to the uh dog paddle, I could be all county humanity uh center does uh society does a dog paddle over here at the pool and uh swim pool in Starbucks while Monterey Pool.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_03: And we've done that uh three of the last five years, and uh so he he was worn out from the pool party and and that, but man, the game kept going on and on and on.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_03: And he hadn't eaten yet, so I was like, man, we get I gotta go.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_03: So I actually missed.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_03: I left right at the end of regulation, and now as I was walking to the car, I could hear the crowd go crazy and the fireworks shoot off.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_03: And I looked at the jumbotron and we had scored the the touchdown.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_03: Then I got in the car and and um I didn't I didn't see it until I got home the the play, and it was gosh, it was so close.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_03: The guy almost made the first down, and I mean it was literally right to the thing.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_03: And I saw the replay last night with Arnett was yelling at the ref right beside him, it's like game over, game over, game over game over.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_03: And it was thank goodness.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_03: But uh wow, that was uh that was yeah, if you didn't stop them there, they looked like they were score.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_03: The game could have gone either way.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_03: So uh yeah, glad to get it, glad to literally escape that one with a win and and uh got a big task ahead of us on Saturday at Davis Way.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, sir, we do.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we had a great interview uh with Coach Mullen uh that we did earlier this week.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_00: So we're recording this after that.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_00: So stay tuned for that.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna we're gonna make our predictions and talk about a couple other things here and and then we'll have Coach Mullen on in just a few minutes.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_00: But uh just wanted to get everybody updated on the coffee.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_00: So we're still still running the the coffee at johnnypacker.net.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_00: Uh a good friend of the program, Juan Valdez, made an order.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_00: He sent me a picture last night.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_00: He got he got a sample pack in.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_00: He got uh six different brands or six different uh countries were sent to him.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_00: One of those was Colombia, his his uh his origins, Juan Valdez.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_00: And so I think he's gonna really enjoy that one.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_00: And uh so y'all step in there and check it out.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_00: The cool thing with the sample packs is is like I said, you get six different flavors, and Juan Valdez got just the basic, you know, whole ble whole bean um single country origin, but you can get flavors, you can get whatever you want to with the sample packs.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_00: And just hop on there, johnnypacker.net.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_00: If you put the code Johnny in at checkout, you'll get 10%.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_00: And always free shipping, Johnny.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_00: We're doing that for y'all.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_00: Always free shipping.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, indeed.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_03: Juan sent me a uh picture as well.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so he was pumped to get that.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_03: So I was happy to see a friend of the program uh support us in our cause and and hopefully he will enjoy it.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_03: But uh, but yeah, a little update on the on the on home front on the cystic fibrosis fundraising and everything.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_03: I had a uh actually had a doctor's appointment today, a telemedicine doctor's appointment.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_03: And uh it was a good report, but they're talking about stuff that's uh, you know, they're they were saying stuff like uh people with CF today, they're working on uh medicines to help people with their kidneys, uh 20 years into the future.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_03: And they're saying, like, you know, if you're born with CF today, you might actually not die from CF from your lungs failing.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_03: It could be like, because CF is in your body, it affects all your organs, but it could be like kidneys.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_03: So they said that that um they're working with stuff for that, you know.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_03: But as far as like the lung part, there's still, you know, I say this all the time who listens to this podcast, there's still this 10% of the population that do not have a drug like tricafta.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_03: And I asked them about that today because I have a rare mutation.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_03: Thank God I can take tricathas because one of the mutations I have allows me to take tricafta.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_03: The other one I have is super rare, and some people have two of these super rare gene gene types mutations, and they can't take tricafta, and there's no drug out there.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_03: And gosh, I was I would not I would not be alive today if I did not have that one type that could take tricapta because I was heading down so fast.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_03: So these people are literally dying.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_03: And I ask them, like, how much how much further do we think we're because I'm on benefit whenever they come out for a drug for that nonsense mutation is what it's called.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_03: And I was thinking, no, he's gonna say like a year or so.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_03: He said possibly 10 years.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_03: Oh man, yeah, so it could be 10 years.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_03: So that's uh, and he he did say when it comes out, it's gonna affect it's probably not he said, because I was thinking it was gonna be a drug just for these people with the nonsense mutations.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_03: He said that he thinks it's gonna be a drug for everyone with CF, not just nonsense or the five, it's for everyone, but it might be 10 10 more years.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_03: So that was kind of discouraging for people with the nonsense mutation.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_03: But my point of saying all this is if you're listening out there, uh, only way that we can make stuff speed up through um through drug trials and and and all that sort of stuff is fundraising.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_03: And the more money you fundraise, it goes into the foundation, CF Foundation, they're able to come up and do research.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it literally money runs the rules of the world.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_03: We all know that.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_03: And when it comes to life-saving drugs and stuff like that, it every little cent adds up.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_03: So if you're listening to this and you're thinking, man, I can't make a difference in the life, you actually can by literally purchasing a bag of coffee on johnnypacker.net makes a huge difference.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_03: So we really would appreciate it, and all these people in the CF community would too, because I mean, these people on track after they're doing well, you know, there's still this population that from what I hear today might be in 10 years, and that's a lot of people that probably aren't gonna live to see that uh without something.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_03: So they just need to speed up the the research, and they are they're they're working really hard, but the fight's not done.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_03: People, another thing that's kind of frustrating is people think, you know, when they see CF, oh, they got tricap.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_03: CF is pretty much cured.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_03: That's not the case at all, man.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_03: Still have to bust my butt every single day doing treatments, working out, doing everything I can to stay healthy because I skipped that.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I literally fall back down, so even with tricaptis, so it's a constant battle.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_03: Um, hey, that's what I've called CF warriors, so that's what it's all about, it's fighting it.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_03: And uh, those that are out there listening that are struggling with CF who might be listening to us, just know that that uh just keep fighting, keep living.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I always tell people, just keep living, and and that's truth because uh what's the alternative?
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_03: You give up, you're gonna die.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_03: So uh at least fight it with all you got.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_03: And and uh, but but as far as a fundraising aspect, we we just encourage you just do something simple.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_03: You know, we're not having to, you know, we had those glasses that were selling for two or three hundred bucks.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_03: You know, these this is simple.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_03: Coffee is relatively cheap and it's going towards a great cause.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_03: So uh really would encourage everyone to stop on johnnypacker.net, pick you some.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_03: If you don't drink coffee, hey, that's all right.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_03: You know, you know someone that drinks coffee, a relative, a friend, any co-worker, someone drinks it, get it for them.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_03: So uh anyway, uh you are making a difference and we really appreciate it.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_00: Well, well, speaking of uh of uh just keep living, you know, your boy McConaughey had a big weekend uh down there.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's always always good to see the Crimson Tide lose.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, uh McConaughey was all over the place, dude.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_03: He he's uh he was in Tuscaloosa, it looked like he flew into Birmingham because uh uh they're all the private jets.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_03: I guess all the the oil guys in Texas, rich dudes, were flying into Tuscaloosa and they couldn't get in there.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_03: So he uh hopped on a uh some bummed ride from Birmingham with a friend of theirs, it looked like from when they filmed a movie there this summer and got to on the field at Bryant Denny six seconds before the kickoff.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_03: So he was there and got to see the horns uh knock off the tide and apologize to all you tide listeners out here.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_03: You know, with you know, y'all win all the time, y'all win all the time.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_03: So so it was good to see uh see somebody knock them out, in uh my opinion.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so yeah, that was that was a really good.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_03: I was watching that on my phone at Davis Wade cheering uh for the long horns, and and they got the job done.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_03: But then I saw McConday went from there to he was at the U.S.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_03: Open in in uh in New York, and then he's been on this, he's got this kid's book uh called Just Just Because um came out and he's been promoting it.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_03: He was on the the View, and I saw a picture with uh Eli Manning on Wall Street uh yesterday ringing the bell on Wall Street doing something.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_03: So uh then he was at the the uh Empire State Building or been all over the place promoting it and stuff.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, that was good to see see him.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_03: But um, yeah, the Longhorns really whooped up on Alabama on on the field the other night.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, it's saving everybody's uh listen to Paul Feinbaum.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_03: I couldn't wait to hear what he had to say.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_03: It's dynasty dead, and you know, it might actually be Georgia, Georgia reigning supreme, and then the SEC against Texas and Oklahoma coming in.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see what happens, but uh that was it was nice to see a little shake up.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_03: So hey, look, Zach Arnett has a better record than Nick Saban.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_03: How about that?
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's interesting too, because I mean that we're not going to we're losing divisions next year, and so used to fall back while the West is kind of weak, and you know, Alabama's always got a chance to come out of the West, but you know, it's it's it's different now.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_03: It is so yeah, it's gonna be uh be a lot different next year when there's no divisions.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_03: So uh um, you know, our prediction earlier in the year was LSU would win the West, and then they get beat by Florida State, and I remember thinking, well, I'm gonna pick Bama to win the West now.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_03: And then Texas beats Alabama, but I still think, man, it's gonna be one of those two.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_03: Texas AM is so fake, dude.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_03: Every year they pick AM.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_03: Every year they I picked Miami because I knew they were gonna win, and it happened again.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, I don't believe ever in Texas AM.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_03: And then, you know, state, Ole Miss, Arkansas, over and I don't, yeah.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's still gonna come down to L Shu and Alabama in the West, one of those teams.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_03: But uh, but yeah, Mississippi State's got a huge task in front of them on Saturday morning.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, I hate the games in the morning.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_03: Why can't we not get a night game?
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_03: I guarantee if this game was at Baton Rouge, it would be at night.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_03: I just don't get why we can't have the night game.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_03: But uh no one wants to go to 11 a.m.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_03: game, and it's gonna be frustrating.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_03: We we didn't have a really strong crowd the other night with Arizona with the White House.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_03: I I just don't think we're gonna have a good crowd Saturday.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_03: I hope I'm wrong, but we know from previous experience, 11 a.m.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_03: games do not draw draw a big crowd.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_03: So uh I don't know.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_03: No happens.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_00: At least the weather's supposed to be nice, and maybe that maybe they'll get out, at least the students will get out there and support them for a while.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean the the the stands have not been full all year, and I don't get you know, they say it's been a it's been a sellout, season two sellout, but they're somebody's not going, so y'all need to show up.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_03: I thought like this past weekend, you know, first weekend we thought maybe the weather would have been too hot, or which it wasn't turned out great.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_03: But this past weekend night game felt great outside, and man, white out, and but the the upper deck on the east side and the east side, just the student section was packed, it looked awesome.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_03: But I don't know what it looked like on TV, but it in the stands from the west side looking over to the east, a lot of empty seats.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_03: So uh primetime game too.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_03: So I don't know, maybe with LSU the SEC play starting, they'll get more.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe a bunch of a bunch of LSU fans will come.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_03: I don't I don't know.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_03: But we'll be smelling some corn dogs on Saturday morning.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: Could be.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_00: What do you what are you thinking uh the game's gonna look like?
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, what what what's your prediction?
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_03: I actually had some corn dogs tonight, actually, believe it or not.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_03: Uh uh Yeah, um my prediction for the game is uh state fans probably aren't gonna like this.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_03: I I know last year on this podcast we had our buddy uh what was it, Scooter Boudreau come on here.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, scooter.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_03: Scooter, yeah.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_03: We I think we both picked LSU and and uh man I'm I'm picking the Tigers again.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I'm gonna do two things though.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna do a prediction for if Mississippi State plays like they played against Arizona, and then I'm gonna pick if Mississippi State plays like we hoped in them to play, what the score is gonna be like.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_03: I think if Mississippi State comes out playing like they did against Arizona, running the ball, not using Will, throwing the ball, and uh I think it's gonna be ugly.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_03: And I think uh LSU's gonna beat State like bad.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_03: Like I think I could see like 42 to 6 or 42 to 13, something like that.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_03: But if state comes out and plays where Will use Will as he's been he knows Will Rogers is a passing quarterback.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_03: That's what Mike Leach had him do.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_03: He's made for passing.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_03: If we can use him in the passing scheme and bring on that other guy, Mike Wright, let him run.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_03: I know he was in the game and he didn't even run and use Woody Morts and split it up, not just be just running it.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I never can't believe I'm saying this with all the year these past couple years where everyone's like, run the ball, run the ball, we're passing it.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_03: We just need a balanced attack.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_03: And I feel like if we can do that and our defense can step up, then we can keep it competitive.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_03: And uh I think at this point, that's all we can hope to hope to be and stop Jaden Daniels because the guy from Arizona, I told you that quarterback, y'all saw that, that he was scrambling and and we were letting him have up all these yards and all that sort of stuff.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_03: Well, Jaden Daniels is twice as good as this guy from Arizona.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_03: So if we let, if like I said, if we played like we did the other night, we're gonna get absolutely destroyed and they're gonna run all over us and all that sort of stuff.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_03: But if our defense steps up and uh is and can stop uh Daniels from running it, and our offense uh balances it out, passing and running, all that store stuff.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_03: I think we can keep it competitive.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_03: And if that's the case, I'm gonna pick the score of 24 to I was gonna say 24-17, but I'm sticking with 24-13.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think we score more than 13 points, but um, I think we can keep it competitive if that's the case.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_03: Otherwise, it's gonna be ugly and it's gonna be a blowout.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_03: So what are your what's your thoughts on it?
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_03: So you're saying an L either way, Johnny.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_03: L either way.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_03: We're not gonna win.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_03: Not either way.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_03: I hope I'm hope I'm vexing us.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_03: I'm I hope I'm I'm hope I'm saying an L, a reverse psychology, but there is no way we're gonna win this game.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_03: Now, hopefully next time I come on here, y'all can all give me L and say, Oh, he was wrong, he was wrong, yeah.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_03: We won, we won.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_03: But we're not gonna win the game.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: I I I just I can't I can't see us doing it either.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um I I feel like it will be a fairly close game because we we were able to play them close to some degree last year in the swamp, and we still have a lot of the same pieces, and it's at home.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_00: But I just feel like you mean Tiger Valley.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, not the swamp, yeah.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_00: Think about Swamp Kings.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um but but yeah, I mean I I think it will be closer.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm I'm gonna say 24-17.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um because they don't seem like they have it 100% together either, right?
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_00: But our offense is is definitely not clicking, and I really hope I'm wrong.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_03: But I think it will be a ball game, but I don't I don't see how we pull it out.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so yeah, last year we were right in the game.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_03: I was at that game and Austin Williams, you know, he fumbled that uh that punt punt return and they turned they LC got the ball and scored off of and that changed the game.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_03: But we were right in there for the game.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_03: So um I I feel like like I said, if we can if we can split it up and and uh and do that, um, then I feel like we can keep it competitive.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_03: But if we come out just you know, like we did the other night, I I don't think think it's gonna be a good good thing.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I was thinking about in the past 30, I'm at what year, 31 years.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_03: So gosh, 32 years now.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_03: Time flies.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_03: 1991.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_03: Since 1991, when when uh coach Cheryl took over at Mississippi State, we've beaten LSU five times, five times for 31 years.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we bit we won at Tiger Stadium in '91, Jackie's first year, and then and then we won in um 99 when the guy we had on last week, Rod Gibson, scored on the goal line and starved 1-1.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_03: And then we won uh then from 99, it took us until 2014 with when Dak uh took down the Tigers, you know, in his memorable game in Baton Rouge, and and uh in the special 2014 season, we went to number one.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_03: That kind of started the ball rolling on that one, and then our buddy Nick Fitzgerald ran all over uh coach O and the Tigers um instarble in 2017 as four.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_03: And then the fifth win was Mike Leach's first game as uh as coach of the dogs, and when KJ Costello, of all people, broke the record for six or three six hundred yards passing in in the game, who were with a air raid.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_03: We're like, oh my gosh, this guy's gonna be like a Heisman.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_03: And then he he obviously the next week he faltered and never heard from him again.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_03: But what I'm saying is five times in 31 years we've beaten him.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_03: Five times.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_03: That's that's that's that's what you're saying.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_03: Domination right there.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_03: LSU has had for the past 31 years, and I don't see it changing on Saturday.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_03: Hope I'm wrong, but uh that's my prediction.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I agree.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, one other thing I I was I failed to mention before we get Coach Mullen on here, uh, give another shout out for uh one of the one of the old linemen's mom reached out to me, sent me an email.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: She listened to the podcast last week, found out about the coffee, ordered her son a couple bags.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so he's he's number 76 on the team.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: His name is Albert Reese the Fourth.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: So shout out to Albert Reese the Fourth.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: Hopefully, you're enjoying your Johnny Packer coffee.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_00: Feel free to share it with your other players.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: If we can get a couple other players drinking our coffee, then maybe the team can endorse us.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_00: I think it'd be awesome.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like uh definitely that's that's so awesome.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_03: We really, really appreciate you because like what I said earlier, y'all are making a difference uh by buying buying coffee, helping people in their fight, like me with CF.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_03: And uh and it and every little bit adds up.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_03: And man, we really appreciate in the offensive linemen, man.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_03: They played such a huge part in the football team, protecting the quarterback, and and and they're just they're kind of the unsung heroes on the team.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_03: So really, we really appreciate it and hope you spread it, spread the news out to the rest of the football team.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_03: And gosh, if y'all could get maybe also drink some coffee before the game, get y'all get y'all jolted up, ready to go, and go out there and and prove me wrong and and and go out there and beat the LSU Tigers, and and uh sure would be a great, great thing.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_03: So but we really appreciate y'all uh especially uh buying that that coffee and and uh and listening to the podcast.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: Well, all right, Johnny.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_00: Let's uh with no further delay, let's get to our interview with Coach Dan Mullen.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's a good one.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_00: Stay tuned for that.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: He really talks about some cool stuff, some cool memories, some stuff I had forgotten about while he was there.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, he was he was a great, great, great interview.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: Really appreciate him coming on.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_03: And there's one there's one hypothetical question that y'all are gonna love.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_03: I had I had to ask him.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_03: I've always wanted to know, and uh, and he he he told us exactly what.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_03: thought would happen and and uh y'all listen to that and uh y'all y'all get a kick out of it so um yeah without further further ado bring on coach dan mull and we hope y'all are tune in to us next week we really appreciate y'all listening and thank you for what y'all are doing at johnnypacker.net yes sir uh um well i'm gonna bring him on he's uh he is the your sinus former your sinus tight end and remember the new hamster mafia i saw on wikipedia but also the former head coach at mississippi state in florida coach dan mullen welcome to johs world thank you so much yeah great to be with you guys yeah i saw that on wikipedia had to had to add that in there i think that all started that's like a funny deal of uh you know there's in manchester nepshire which isn't always a hotbed of coaches uh there's guys that always helped each other out so when i was here there's a guy named chip kelly who's now the head coach at uc he's at ucla now and he went to central high school and and uh in manchester new hampshire i went to trinity and then the the third guy is a guy named Ryan Day who's the head coach at Ohio State now and it was kind of funny like so when I was getting into coaching chip kind of helped me out helped me get connected to get my I didn't really know him that well at the you know we were always kind of it was always like there's five years between each of us so like he had left before I started in high school football in the city of Manchester um and then you know he went to central I went to Trinity and then so I I was coaching and then Chip was at UNH when I was at Florida and he called and he said hey got this young coach Ryan Day who's a grad he needs needs to you know we got to get him up in the coaching ranks and um and I remember Ryan from you know after I had left and had gone on to college he was a great high school player in the city and so uh I called I saw Brian and Brian came down with my grad assistant at Florida um you know and so I guess we always kind of helped each other out in the football world and uh you know you had three really successful coaches all from Manchester New Hampshire which I guess doesn't happen all the time.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_03: That's awesome.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_03: That's nice very nice.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_03: Well coach I was uh listening to the Saturday down south podcast I don't know I guess about a month ago and you were a guest on there and um I was telling John after that podcast it seems like you're really enjoying uh the broadcasting life sounds like you you have your your weekends back you can take vacations you don't have to have your cell phone with you anymore so um how are you liking it so far this season it's it's a lot of fun i i don't have weekends this time of year but you have a lot of time off in the off season but the uh you know it's it's a lot of fun i mean this year i'm I'm working with matt berry and i and um and harry louse of the thursday night crew for ESPN so we'll be doing the games on Thursday night we have a great crew and uh headed to Memphis this weekend for the Memphis Navy game on this Thursday and uh coming up and um you know so that's a lot of fun because I get the action of calling a game and being at the stadium and you know you get the pageantry the excitement in college football and then uh you know Fridays I spend Fridays and Saturdays in studio Friday night doing the the the college football preview shows and uh the the kickoff show and then uh and and working in studio for the Friday night game and then Saturday Saturday's fun all day football you know I mean we're there from we'd be from we we got we got a noon a 330 a 7 and a 1030 game then then we uh I'm on college football final after that the great the kind of the wraps up the whole day of college football with uh Matt Berry and Joey Galloway it's a great deal it's a lot of fun when you go up there I don't know if if you've seen it on social media on on anybody followed me on the social media we poke post the pictures kind of this like ultimate man game we have uh 14 TV screens wow and we get the satellite feeds of all the games so it's a little bit different you know we don't have the nachos there's no nachos here or any of that stuff but uh and pizza we i we but the uh you know we sit there you got all these games on and this giant studio with all this bay of tv screens and every couple hours we go and we get on on set to go what's going on and filling in between the games and talking about the games and then doing the wrap up show at night and uh but it's quiet you don't have the audio on all the games so it's kind of like it's kind of you can't like it you just have what's it going on at with in your earpiece and um but it's a lot of fun yeah I we're having a great time I really enjoy it I love being part of the game uh but you also have the opportunity to spend time with five family and the uh you know and and you know get to go to my kids basketball games and uh my you know my my daughter see my son and my daughter and see all their their events well well speaking of uh pizza I have to ask you this I saw on your social media the other day this huge pizza where was that at a place in Connecticut that was up uh you know what we had um had some time off between you know that that kickoff weekend we had games every night but you had the days off uh new haven and went down on then you know the kind of the home what they'll talk about of Connecticut pizza and went to a place called Sally's my two cousins met me there they live up there I'll tell you what the one thing if in when you're you're in in Mississippi it it's hard to get a good slice of pizza or get good pizza um uh you know there's a lot of things you get good of right good catfish you get get a lot of good things but that list and uh so when you're up there though there it's one of the you know one of the famous places and they got they got the pictures of you know Sinatra and everybody that comes in there to get their pizzas in the old days it was giant pizza wow did y'all eat all that thing you know what they took some home we went we did uh we did three giant pizzas just got it we had a pepperoni a pepperoni mushroom and then we did the white clam pizza you know which kind of famous up there and uh did a little couple slices of each and then let my cousins take the rest home for leftovers awesome well well coach uh let's talk a little bit about uh SEC football going on right now you you know what do you what are you what are your thoughts you know it was a big weekend this past weekend with Texas knock knocking off Alabama what are your thoughts on that and let's talk about the Bulldogs what do you think uh I know they they took Arizona down into overtime and got LSU coming in to start with this weekend where what are your thoughts on that?
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_01: Well for the SEC it's kind of been a rough start for the the league so far this year.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_01: You know they they've had um you know some opportunities on the national stage with big games and you know l su got kind of kind of beat pretty handily by Florida state and um you know then the the next opportunity Texas AM went down to Miami and they got they got it handed to them pretty well by Miami and then you know Alabama obviously at home and losing by double digits at home to Texas um you know as really in the big picture of the league uh it's gonna be interesting.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_01: I I think you know for for for those type of reasons come the end of the year when you're doing resume comparisons uh I think it's gonna be harder than one team in the playoff this year.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_01: And I think it'll be the champion of that SEC championship game you know and then you know because if you you kind of look at how the season plays out and you say okay well uh you know and nothing nothing against get all the state or the old miss fans all fired up there in the state of Mississippi but you know preseason yet you had LSU Alabama and Texas AM were the top three on that side let's say one of them make it to the championship game well um if they lose the championship game then they'll they'll have two long no way they're getting in with all losses to teams that are playoff contenders that they're gonna be comparing resumes to head to head uh on on the flip side of that on the east you know you look at Georgia as the favorite and you know they don't really play they don't I don't they don't play anybody I don't think they have a ranked team on their schedule the entire year.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_01: So uh their resume is going to be pretty weak and uh you know if they happen to lose that championship game and I know people freak out on this one but to be honest with you if they lose the championship game you know you you're comparing them to Florida State and I say well okay well your winner of the West is in and your non-conference champion comparing to a team head to head you lost to this team from the West that one of these other teams beat um you know so I I think it at best the SC should probably only get one team in this year.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_01: Just with the opportunities they've had I mean there'll be a couple more as the season goes on but there are some marquee games where they didn't really show up.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_01: Now Mississippi State obviously Mississippi State handed the Pac 12 the first their first loss of the season I think it was uh you know like a getting close to a college football record for most consecutive wins by a conference the start of season I think it was 16 and oh was the Pac 12 um before that loss and in um you know I I got to watch a bunch of the game off and on um you know we were doing a studio show but I know it came right down to that that that close controversial call kind of there at the end um but they found a way to make more plays uh you know I mean and and always and in all the years in Starkville you know I mean the the fans are gonna give you the support help lift that team and carry the team um you know and and you know coach Arnett in his first year I think is is uh I got to spend some time with him I think he's gonna do a really good job there uh at state I think he understands the culture and uh you know and the people and what the program's really all about and uh you know and you see that in the in the way they play and that that's a huge win you know I mean that is a a huge win when you're all the years at Mississippi State you know we well we we always made a big preach you got you got to win your four non-conference games right you got to win the egg bowl that's five wins right there you know and and you know as you then then you start looking at who you're picking off i mean when we were there we said hey if we always win the four non-conference games we win the egg bowl and we beat Kentucky we play every year that start with that rivalry and you got your six wins so you're going to bowl game now let's just now let's then take the next steps who we knocking off next you know uh I think kind of we're there we kind of went Arkansas then we started knocking off AM then we started getting Auburn um got LSU a couple times you know never quite got to the Alabama but um you know but it it uh I guess that's what kept us out out away from Atlanta uh Alabama seemed we seemed to be on a pretty good run then but I I think it's a great start for them uh obviously huge challenge this week with uh with LSU and um you know that's that's a big game that really um you know could the the conference run into a into having a great season and and having a chance at at competing for the West yeah I'm excited about it especially that we get them at home so hopefully that gives us an advantage there so it'll always hey it's all it always you know I mean it's always that the the home field advantage in in the SEC I think is better than than just about any conference in the country.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_03: I mean with the exception of maybe if you're having to travel all the way across the country to play in a game um you know or one of those deals but that there's nothing that can compete with home field advantage in the Southeastern Conference and you know and because it's it's every stadium you go into you know I mean you you you know you you're gonna come into Starkville it's gonna be it's an intimidating environment that's a hard place to go win football games no matter who you are and uh I do you know the fans show up that you know that and um you know with the cowbells ringing it's an awesome game day environment so the uh I I think that always gives a little extra edge in close games to the home team well well coach I want to ask you a little bit about I just finished watching uh Swamp Kings last week I thought they did an amazing job with it I just want to get your thoughts on it what you thought uh after watching it and and living it and did that did they hit on exactly what what you thought it was going to be or what I you did you know and and I've heard a lot of different things about it.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_01: The one unique thing about it I think that's great is having done a lot of different shows you know I did did the I forget what they called it now but it was like kind of the hard knocks of college football we did that at Florida for like one game they came and did a game week with you um I see the different shows on of teams doing their own TV show.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_01: Now when you do those shows you know one of the important things to go I mean as the coach in the university you get editing rights at the end right and so you're gonna and basically you're using that as a recruiting tool I mean I to be honest with you it's a recruiting tool and an advertisement for your program.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_01: It's interesting I think that's as realistic a look inside a college football program and what a day of regular life is uh it was awesome they found a lot of the old footage uh that was in there and you know because there there's a lot of things when you watch that that people look at and you sit there and say man that that's that that's a tough environment right that's you know that's it it's not all peaches and cream right there you know you got to look is that something um that's not really set up purely as a recruiting tool and Netflix you know had the editing um nobody that was in the show is still in playing college football or coaching in college football right now and so I think the thing that made that really interesting and unique was you got a real behind the scenes at what it was like without the editing trying to revolve around recruiting or how to how to make things look good.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_01: You saw the good and the bad of everything that was in there and um it's interesting a lot of people come to me and say well we met you missed this you missed this you missed that I said well listen I've the the the the the lady that did the that was the producer of everything and the director I mean she she was she was British she'd never even seen an American football game.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_01: So one I don't think she was she was following the story and two she only had access to people that wanted to be involved and there were a lot of things that were going on that people like well what about that story you know and um you know some people come up and I and he and and I understand it because he was a big part of it for me but not really part of the story.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_01: Like I was like where was Cam Newton in all of this well yeah I mean if if if you remember like I was really close with Cam and I I mean I love Cam to death and and I mean he was awesome and so he was a part of it for me because he was in the quarterback meeting room uh as one of my players but I mean it was backup quarterback he he never really got on the field so I you know I mean it wasn't kind of part of the story there you know I mean of during that time an error he wasn't a major part of it um and uh you know heck if he would have stayed at Florida that the story might have continued for a couple more years and at least another championship um you know when he transferred out and um but he transferred out when I left but it was I thought it was really fascinating excuse me I think they're you know it's a shame I think some of some of the players um I don't think they they understood everything that it would kind of wonder are people gonna try to put a you know put a big bad spin on it and try to make people look bad or are they gonna tell the truth and so I think a lot of people weren't sure they were just going to tell the truth and you know which they kind of did they were gonna they were going to try to make it something it wasn't.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_01: And so I think some of the players stayed away so there were some there were some there you know some people that were were major parts of that story the you know Percy Harvin that the Pouncey brothers that that didn't end up doing the show um but it that was their choice and so uh to to not do it so I think that kind of um heck they could have probably done a another two two or three if they had gotten everybody on it they probably could have done another couple episodes of it even right well well here here's a hypothetical question I have to ask you since you just brought him up Cam Newton.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_01: Cam Newton comes to Mississippi State in 2010 we win the national championship well you know I think I think if you really look at that I think there was a good opportunity and and the only reason I say that is you know you go back to that season and we finished nine and four I think we finished um like 15th in the country that year um with a loss at home a close loss at home to Auburn well if he's on our team he's not on their team so we win that game yep uh we lost a double overtime game to Arkansas I mean he's a little difference maker as you saw as a husband trophy winner so I'm gonna throw that one I'm gonna throw that one in there.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yep um you know and then we lost to LSU in Alabama I think he's good enough for one of those wins well that puts you in the SEC championship game and I think the east was kind of down that year.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_01: They were and um so we would have won the east we would have won the SEC title at at worst at you know at one loss been 13 and one I and uh I would have felt pretty good about our chances it would have been interesting you know but definitely well to take it further what if we had caught that pass in the fourth quarter to go ahead and beat Auger that game how do you think it plays out title that year probably that was that was I remember I mean I remember that game that was a great battle that we had a great team you know I think one thing that year um when you go back to that team that we we were still learning how to win and um there's a lot of mentality and psychology in the game with players and the emotional part of the game.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_01: And I think a lot of times I don't think that team realized how good we really were at times.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_03: And um you know and so there are some plays here and there that I think if we you know we we would have thought maybe we were a little bit better maybe we would have made a couple more here or there and and um you know I know there there are always there are a couple tough breaks there there were you know those those two games I thought we we could have pulled out uh the Auburn and the Arkansas game and but um you know that was such a talent we had such a talented defense that year uh such a good defense and uh so many great players and I mean heck you go you turn on games yesterday and there's still guys from that team still playing you know I mean Fletcher Cox is still out there playing and uh um you know that was it was uh it was pretty amazing team um and a fun team to be around you know that was a uh that that really kind of changed I thought that team changed the mindset I think a lot of people you know in 2014 is the standard at Mississippi State almost uh to live up to but that team really set the table for the success of my tenure there um that you know and change and really I think changed expectations in the entire program um and the fan base and and really everybody in Mississippi yes absolutely yeah talking about that that 2010 team uh I want to talk about that game at Florida when you beat Urban at the swamp I was at that game and man we ran the football just ran ran ran it and uh what was it like winning a game against Urban Meyer in the swamp at Mississippi State it was awesome you know it was one of those games I know before the game it was really interesting and uh we kind of gotten a little bit of swagger about ourselves i the the the key to that year was the Georgia win you know that kind of that turned everything you know we we had lost a real close game to Auburn you didn't know if Auburn was going to be great and then go on to win the national title you know we lose to LSU um in another tough game and we're kind of teetering and we go and beat a really good Georgia team you know a really good Georgia team and that really changed the mindset.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_01: I think at that point that that was the turning point of that program.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_01: You know because if you lose that game you're just battling to try like hey can we even have a winning record when we won that game everyone's like hold on we're pretty good so we went into the swamp with some confidence.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_01: And I remember before the game you know you kind of like our guys would always get hyped up and like kind of they were all like dancing at midfield we were getting ready to break down the Florida players came by and I kind of walked by and I'm like you know what last year when we played them they were the number one team in the country and they had Tebow and all these guys and I said I looked out there I said we look bigger you know last year they were like the you know the intimidating team I said I think we look a little bit bigger than they do.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_01: You know we're gonna go punch them in the mouth and it's gonna be a physical football game and we came out and did that you know and that and uh you know you go back to that game it was fantastic.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_01: I mean it was one of those things I think people a lot of fans they get they they look at things the one of the things we're able to do as a coaching staff that was always really important to me is is the the number one priority was winning the game that was already priority number one and we went into that game we had a great defense and I knew that that Florida was kind of trying to figure out who they were right I mean Tebow was gone uh Urban had lost a lot of assistant coaches so they were kind of trying to figure out an identity and you could tend to that within their offense on the offense side of the ball now they had played Makers on defense.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I think that going into that, I mean they their defense had almost outscored the offense on the year.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_01: They were they were uh you know turnover machines and and defense putting points on the board.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_01: And we went and I remember sitting with Manny Diaz.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_01: I said, listen, he said, he said, I I if you don't turn the we don't turn the ball over and give them short fields, they're gonna have a hard time scoring.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_01: I said, okay.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_01: I said, well, then listen, I said, we we if let's let's look at this.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_01: I said, then for us maybe to go that route, I mean you're gonna have to shut them down.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_01: I said, we we we'll we'll slow the game down, run the ball, and we'll punt it.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_01: If we punt it all game long, we'll make them play the long field.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, I I, you know, we met and we thought that's a great strategy for this game, you know.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, you know, there's a lot of people sometimes you're an offensive coach to sit there and say, okay, our strategy is to go in and kind of run the ball, milk the clock, play field position.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_01: You know, let's we're gonna keep it a low-scoring game.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but we were able to do that, and it was an unbelievable feeling and sense of accomplishment to get in, you know, to go down there.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, Florida was, you know, the program.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, at the time, they right, I mean, they won two out of four national titles, the you know, that they uh 13 and one, three out of the previous four seasons was their record, you know.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and um, you know, but for our guys to go in there and find a way to win that game 10-7, you know, just the toughness of what we were doing and follow the plan and believe it as a team, it was an unbelievable celebration.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_01: That locker room was amazing after that game.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_00: Well, the only other thing I had was um, and we were talking about just different stadiums and stuff like that.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_00: You were what was the loudest moment you ever felt like it was at Davis Wade Stadium for you?
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_00: Uh for me, it was that 2014 Auburn game.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_00: That's probably the loudest I've ever heard it.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_00: Is was there a moment for you?
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_01: There is there's a cool video.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um and there's the two different stages of it, right?
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_01: Which was that kind of that pre-stage when we were building.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, there's a great video of of John Banks' 105, whatever yard pick six of Tebow.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and if you ever get the game film, if it was before we built the that end of the stadium, so we kind of still had those those those old bleacher type end zone, right?
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_01: And the coaches cut on the camera of the end zone camera, you know, the our coaches angle type the the camera's on top of that area, and you saw him pick the ball off in the end zone, and like the place is rocking, and the camera is kind of shaking a little bit, and then he breaks a tackle and it shakes more, and then he breaks the last tackle and goes into the open field, and you're watching the game films jumping up and down, bouncing because it was shaking so much they couldn't keep the camera still uh in the stadium on that one.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_01: So I know that one uh that was pretty amazing right there.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I I definitely the the 2014 Auburn game uh was unbelievable.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I still think that's probably the biggest most let's go with most memorable win for me in my coaching career, you know, was that game.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um and you know, it certainly uh was loud uh in that game, you know, because and I think everyone could feel in the stadium that that was going to be the opportunity um that you won that game, you were gonna beat in that rank number one the next week.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_01: And so I think the energy and the excitement around it after beating LSU, beating AM the way we did kind of handily.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I do remember that game too.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_01: And and I got worried at the end it got really loud again because you know, I think we jumped out to 21-0 lead.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_01: And I looked up the clock, and there's something like eight minutes left still in the first quarter.
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, and this is a really good album teams.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like I'm like 21-0.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, we gotta let's go.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm looking up, I'm like, holy cow, there's a lot of time left in this game.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, you know, then the torrential rainstorm right before halftime.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_01: But in the fourth quarter, you know, we kind of needed to slam the door of the crowd, was amazing.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I mean, just so many different times, you know, that the the energy and the excitement at Davis White Stadium, especially played night games, were amazing.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the student body and and the fan base, how everybody bought in uh was was always just always just amazing.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_01: You know, the passion of the fans was always amazing.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, where what was it like?
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_03: I know from us as a fans perspective, when you when you reached the pinnacle, you reached number one.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it was amazing.
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_03: What was it like in the locker room when y'all found out, you know, Miss Mistake's number one?
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_03: What what did that from?
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I think everybody had a feeling that could happen.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_01: You know what?
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_01: It was one of the great things of all times.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_01: You won that game.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_01: If you remember, we had a bye week the next week, right?
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_01: So you actually, you know, in you got to enjoy it.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and it's a little scary because you're like, oh, we want to get out there and play as number one, let's play some games.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_01: We're ranked number one, but it was kind of a a cool deal that you know that that next Saturday you were at home and on the ticker all day long as number one Mississippi State idle plays.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_01: I think we played Kentucky the following week.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and you're sitting there just enjoying being number one team in the country.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I think for the players, I think it was really special.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_01: I I really do.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_01: I think it was, I remember, you know, uh there was a deal where in preseason camp, and I think it was on a video and they recorded on one of the videos, and we're talking about the toughness and how we had to that mental and physical toughness to battle through things, and you know, because there's gonna be a point in the season where we had to play LSU and Texas AM and Auburn and three top five teams in consecutive weeks.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and how that, you know, I mean, how hard that was gonna be, and so how we had to battle it through.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_01: But I I remember in 2014, and it's always interesting, that team.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I think we're picked to finish last in the West, as always, right?
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_01: We're every I just assume we're picked last.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um that team knew they were pretty good.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, and you can you came out practice and in training camp, and I think everybody it, you know, it wasn't one of those, oh, you picked us last chip on the shoulder, we'll show you type teams.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_01: It was more uh great.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, I love that they picked us last.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_01: We get to just lay low because everybody looked around and they're like, we're pretty good.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, I remember even like people would come out to practice, like Scott Strickland, and we'd have some boosters, people come out like, what do you think, coach?
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_01: And I, you know, I usually am pretty low-key, I don't say much.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I'd look, I'd say, you know, I I I think we're pretty good.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, and we were, you know, uh, we we were we were a great team.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_01: We were that was such a great team.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I know the season that didn't end the way we wanted it to with some some tough deals, you know.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_01: I think um, you know, we go lose on the road to Alabama, and that was devastating.
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_01: In a game, we uh you know, we we turned it over in the red zone three times, or you know, we look, say, hey, if we score touchdowns, you you go through your charts and your plans and showing the guys little little things to fix problems that we could have easily won that game and won it going away a little bit.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_01: If you know, we we we made mistakes to hurt ourselves.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, then after that, we we ended up going up and and playing a great old miss team in the egg bowl.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and that was a tough one.
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_01: That was probably that was probably the toughest loss there.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we we lose both our safeties.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, one of the things I think, and I always always say this, to win a championship, a couple things gotta go your way.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um you know, one, you gotta have a great football team.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_01: Uh two, you gotta uh have the right schedule, you know, because you can you can play a schedule that's gonna beat you up so much you can't win a championship.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_01: And three is health.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um you know that you you can have a schedule that that plays in your favor, the buys were set up.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_01: The schedule played out pretty well for us.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_01: We had a great team, you know, and then by the end of the year, we just didn't have the depth uh that some teams do.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, and I think that was that was one of the the differences when we had a couple injuries.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we didn't have the depth that some other teams do to kind of keep rolling guys out there to go be a championship team and and to win the and what I mean by that to be a national title team.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I I always some of the best teams I've only ever been on one undefeated team in my life, and I was at the University of Utah in in uh 2004, one of the greatest teams I've ever been on.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_01: People always say, well, like SEC or this.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_01: I said, listen, if we would have played, uh, I think USC won the title that year.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Auburn went undefeated that year as well and didn't get to play for it.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_01: I think it was USC playing was it like Oklahoma, maybe in the title or somebody and or Texas in the champion, and then it was Auburn.
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um was undefeated, and and Utah are undefeated.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_01: And I said, hey, and people are like, I Greg Knox and I run back, I used to always argue it was at Auburn and Tom.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_01: I said, I don't I said one game.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_01: I I said in Utah, one game, my team, I think we could have beaten anybody.
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we you had Alex Smith, we I mean we had a team now.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_01: I I said, but in in looking at it in in through the big eyes of football, like, well, so if you were in the SEC, you would have rolled through the SEC undefeated.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_01: I said, Well, I don't know if we would have had the depth, you know, to get through a couple of injuries, you know, and have to play week in, week out.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_01: But but our when if our ones rolled out there on the field, we could go play.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's one of the things the SEC, if you saw in Swamp Kings, and and they don't get into it that much, that the game against Ohio State in 2006 national title game at the University of Florida.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_01: We had a we had, you know, our three games from the West that year were Alabama, LSU, and Auburn.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_01: And then you had to play Tennessee and Georgia.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_01: So I mean, it was you know, you're looking at those, it was uh it was not a friendly schedule with your your SEC West crossover.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, so the schedule is and Florida State.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it was it was a schedule in 06.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_01: And so it ended up happening, and a lot of times you get beat up during the course of the year.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_01: And so that team, I don't think after week six, we played with a full roster the rest of the year.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_01: And they're like, well, boy, you you know, you had to block, barely get away with beating Florida State, you had to block a field goal to beat a good South Carolina team, all of this, you know, come back and win the SEC title game.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_01: And look at Ohio State, the greatest team.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_01: I'm watching the film, they played like one or two teams that were even like they that even had like winning records.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I said, okay.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_01: And I and the funny thing is you had about six, seven weeks.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_01: Back then it was it was uh, you know, whatever it was, it was like you know, January 8th or 9th, and you didn't play since the SEC, there's no playoff in.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_01: It took about six weeks to get ready for the game.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_01: Well, in that six-week period, we got healthy, and we rolled out with a full roster for that game, pretty much.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_01: And when the full roster showed up, that was a different team.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_01: And the fact that we had enough depth to get there, you know, that's part of how you become a championship team.
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_01: Your depth kind of gets you there, then we got healthy for that one game, and that that that team was when that team was healthy, that team was good.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_00: Man, it's hard to believe all this has been close to 10 years ago.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_00: So thanks for taking us down memory lane, though.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_00: This has really been awesome.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, time flies, doesn't it?
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_01: I like I go back now and and I look with my kids and them on the field with me at Mississippi State, and they're like, you know, my daughter's just like a little baby, and that's at the back end of the career.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_01: My son, you know, is just that just so tiny.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_01: But uh, you know, I mean, such a great time.
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I I don't I don't know if there was a better place for a family, raised kids in Starkville, Mississippi, and and uh the fan base, you know, was amazing.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, the players, I mean, I loved everything about being the head coach at Mississippi State and and and and everything about the program and uh and enjoyed my time there and all the people so much.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I it I the biggest thing people say, well, what makes Mississippi special?
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_01: And I said, Well, the biggest thing that makes Mississippi special are the people.
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_01: And um, the people in Mississippi were always such great people, uh, and so great to me and the family, and and just loved love being over there, still love going back.
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_01: We get back at least once a year.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um, maybe try to, you know, my the kids go see their friends, we go hang out with people.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_01: I I usually always try to squeeze in a round or two at Old Waverly um of golf while I'm over there, but uh we have such a great time always still going back.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_03: Well, coach, uh uh from a personal uh perspective, I just have to say uh thanks to you and Megan for what y'all did for for Bats and Children's Hospital.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_03: That's a cause dear to my heart.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_03: You know, uh spent the first eight months of my life there and I worked there promoting it.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_03: And I can remember y'all you always bringing up the football team every year uh to visit the kids.
• 58:01
  SPEAKER_03: I was very special.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you know what?
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_01: It it you're so blessed as a coach.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I always used to say this in a lot of ways.
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_01: You're blessed that you know, just by showing up and just by being you a lot of times, you you put smiles on people's faces that are you know, and and and you know, life's not easy for people.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_01: And people go through a lot of tough things in life.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_01: And I was always blessed of just by being big playing football, you know, being involved with football, which all what I love to do bring happiness to people that are having a tough time.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_01: And you know what, as a coach, uh players on the team, I know they always felt that way, everything.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, to be involved, you know, especially with the children's hospital, you know, when you're looking at kids um that you know that you can put a smile on their face.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_01: It is there's there's nothing like it.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I I'll say that the the always encourage people when you're coaching, you know, and I say and and it's coaching at every level.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_01: If you can have a positive impact on a young person's life, you should do it.
• 59:05
  SPEAKER_01: And that's the main reason you coach.
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_01: That's the biggest reward of coaching, is that you know, you have the opportunity to make positive impact on young people's lives.
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I'll never forget one of the first times I met you was at the hospital.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_03: We were in the elevator, and uh, and John Clark, your uh former assistant, he was next to you, and I was on the other side.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_03: You looked over and you go, What's your name?
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_03: I said, I'm John Clark.
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_03: You're like, I'm in the elevator between two John Clarks, John Clark.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_03: That was a that was a cool moment.
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_01: Oh absolutely.
• 59:37
  SPEAKER_03: Great time.
• 59:37
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you know what?
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_01: It was always so rewarding to go down to spend time to be involved with projects at the children's hospital, bringing the team down to go visit, uh, you know, and just to be around it was was always fantastic.
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and you're right, it puts, I mean, the kid, those kids look forward to y'all's visits every year, and and it you can just see walking up and down the hallway when y'all went in and just going into the rooms, it just it that it made a difference, and that's what it's all about, and we're commend you on that.
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you.
• 1:00:06
  SPEAKER_01: I appreciate it.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_01: I appreciate it.
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_01: So well, thanks for coming on, coach.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for being so generous with your time.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_01: It's been gone.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_01: It's great, great to be with you guys, great to catch up and uh look forward to watching the games.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, you know, I mean, if everyone wants to see me and you know, all the you know social media, how positive social media is.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_01: So anybody has anything positive to say on social media out.
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I'll be I'll be calling the Thursday night games with with Matt Berry.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_01: We'll be up in Memphis this week, and then uh, you know, and you can catch us all day Saturday and on college football final, which kind of that's always that was always my favorite show as a coach on ESPN was kind of you you spend one hour and find out everything that happened that weekend in college football.
• 1:00:50
  SPEAKER_01: And it's kind of funny that now uh it's uh it's a lot of fun.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_01: But uh I I great to be with you guys.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_01: Have a great week, and you know, big one, enjoy the game against LSU this weekend.
• 1:01:03
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, sir.
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_03: I'm being starved, coach.
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_01: Have a great day.
• 1:01:07
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks.