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Shocking Twist: Kouri Richins Throws Party 1 Day After Alleged Poisoning Death of Husband · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grease, the mary widow Corey Richins.
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  Speaker 1: Instead of planning a funeral, planning and gathering at the
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  Speaker 1: home following her husband's funeral, instead, Cory Richards throws a
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  Speaker 1: party at her house, a party to celebrate a closing
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  Speaker 1: on a two million dollar mansion sitting on ten acres
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  Speaker 1: of land that her husband opposed. But hey, he's already
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  Speaker 1: been dead at least to what Jackie twelve fifteen hours,
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  Speaker 1: So it's time to party down with me, renowned psycho.
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  Speaker 1: Ana's joining us out of Beverly Hills, Doctor Bethany Marshall, Now,
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  Speaker 1: doctor Bethany. That's a whole another can of worm to
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  Speaker 1: talk about. But what I'm interested in is the psychopathy
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  Speaker 1: of a person, in this case, a female, Corey Richs,
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  Speaker 1: who tries over and over and over to murder her husband.
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  Speaker 1: We believe we know of three instances where she tried
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  Speaker 1: to kill her husband. I mean, perseverance is normally something
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  Speaker 1: that you should strive for, but not in this scenario.
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  Speaker 1: What is that psychopathy?
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  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, Nancy, there's so much to say about this.
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  Speaker 2: It's important to know that she is what we call
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  Speaker 2: cluster b cluster B in my field means that the
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  Speaker 2: person has three co occurring personality disorders, borderline, antisocial, and sociopathic.
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  Speaker 2: So with all three of those personality disorders.
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  Speaker 1: Right, borderline, sociopathic and what antisocial? Well, she threw a party,
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  Speaker 1: how does that feel with her being anti social? But okay,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: And antisocial is disregard for the rights and safety of others.
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  Speaker 2: So you're not bonded in such a way that you
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  Speaker 2: care about them, but you might be bonded in such
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  Speaker 2: a way that you get excited by them. You want
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  Speaker 2: to have sex with them, you want to take money
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  Speaker 2: from them, you want to manipulate them, you want to
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  Speaker 2: be around them all the time and be the life
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  Speaker 2: of the party, like Casey Anthony on the stripper pole.
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  Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean she had regard for anybody. So
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  Speaker 2: the anti social part has to do with lack of remorse,
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  Speaker 2: lack of thoughtfulness and bonding.
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  Speaker 1: What do you make of repeated attempts to murder Her husband,
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  Speaker 1: Eric Richins, was very opposed to buying a two million
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  Speaker 1: dollar mansion and trying to flip it. He dies. She
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  Speaker 1: closes immediately after she reaches a deal the day after
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  Speaker 1: he dies in their home by extreme fentyl overdose. I
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  Speaker 1: believe it was three to five times a lethal dose
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  Speaker 1: of fentanyl served to him. We believe in a Moscow
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  Speaker 1: mule by her. So she's throwing a party in the
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  Speaker 1: home in their home to celebrate the deal on a
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  Speaker 1: two million dollar mansion. But that was not the first time,
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  Speaker 1: according to prosecutors, that she had tried to kill him.
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about the fact that he even
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  Speaker 1: joked about it, that she was trying to kill him,
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  Speaker 1: that ha ha ha, she's going to kill me for
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  Speaker 1: the money, or the fact that he very much in
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  Speaker 1: a serious tone, called his sister from Greece and said,
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  Speaker 1: I think she's tried to poison me. You've got the
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  Speaker 1: Greece incident where she went overseas with him on a
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  Speaker 1: trip and tried to kill him there, hoping and praying
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  Speaker 1: the Greek police would screw up the investigation, and then
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  Speaker 1: an incident on the Valentine's Day preceding his death, for
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  Speaker 1: she gave him a love note and a poison sandwich.
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  Speaker 1: He took I think one or two bites and immediately
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  Speaker 1: started going into anaphylectic shot with hives and difficulty breathing.
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  Speaker 1: And yet he stayed in the relationship. That's one thing
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  Speaker 1: to figure out. But she was undeterred. I mean, there's
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  Speaker 1: the old slogan, try try again if at first you
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  Speaker 1: don't succeed. But he was joking about it. She showed
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  Speaker 1: no fear that she would be caught or anybody would
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  Speaker 1: put two and two together.
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  Speaker 2: So, Nancy, what I think was happening is that she
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  Speaker 2: was becoming emboldened to administer larger and larger doses of
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  Speaker 2: the drug to kill him. So she started small and
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  Speaker 2: worked up. That's one thing. The other is that she
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  Speaker 2: was stealing money from him, and it was a pretty
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  Speaker 2: startling amount. She had tax debts, she had taken money
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  Speaker 2: out of his business account, she had I think one
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  Speaker 2: point million dollars the she had taken from a lender,
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  Speaker 2: and at the same time she felt she was the
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  Speaker 2: beneficiary of his life insurance policy. So I think that
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  Speaker 2: what was happening is that she was very reckless and impulsive,
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  Speaker 2: and she was a thief. She kept taking money and
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  Speaker 2: then she would panic. Then she would want a life
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  Speaker 2: insurance policy to pay that debt back.
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  Speaker 1: Would need to be dead insurance policies before his death,
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  Speaker 1: so she would.
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  Speaker 2: Need all four life insurance policies, because the one policy
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  Speaker 2: five hundred thousand dollars wouldn't have satisfied all that debt.
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  Speaker 2: So it was sort of like a rob Peter to
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  Speaker 2: pay Paul on her husband's life and soul kind of situation.
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  Speaker 2: And Nancy, I want to say I have had a
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  Speaker 2: couple of patients in my practice like this. Two women
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  Speaker 2: write about the same time, extraordinarily wealthy, generous husbands who
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  Speaker 2: would have given them anything that they wanted, but they
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  Speaker 2: got access to the business accounts. And I remember these
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  Speaker 2: cases because they were about the same time. These women
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  Speaker 2: were gorgeous, they were like models. They got access to
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  Speaker 2: the husband's business accounts and they would steel or take
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  Speaker 2: money behind the husband's back. And in both cases they
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  Speaker 2: had lovers who were sort of near dwells, didn't have
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  Speaker 2: much money. Where this is going, yes, is that you
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  Speaker 2: know everybody might think about the story, how can you
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  Speaker 2: steal from your husband? Well, you can steal if you
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  Speaker 2: prefer to take it behind his back rather than to
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  Speaker 2: have him know about it. If you're reckless, if you're impulsive,
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  Speaker 2: if you go on spendings breeze, and that every time
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  Speaker 2: you run up debt, you take out one more life
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  Speaker 2: insurance policy and then you plot and scheme and plan
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  Speaker 2: to kill your husband to satisfy the debt. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I think that's just one aspect of this. I think
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  Speaker 2: she wanted him gone. Okay, didn't love him.
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  Speaker 1: Marshall, let me redirect your answer before I have to
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  Speaker 1: declare you a hostile witness. My question was, I know
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  Speaker 1: the facts. I don't need to have a rendition of
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  Speaker 1: the facts and examples of her behavior. I need to
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  Speaker 1: figure out what is wrong with this woman. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: she was so as you pointed out, so reckless at
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  Speaker 1: her attempts on her husband's life. The whole family, his
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  Speaker 1: whole family believes she was trying to kill him. He
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  Speaker 1: believes she was trying to kill him. But yet that
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  Speaker 1: did not deter her. I mean, typically when somebody's caught
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  Speaker 1: doing an afarious deed, something wrong, breaking the law, they stop.
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  Speaker 1: But she kept going. There's got to be something wrong
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  Speaker 1: on there. What is it? And I'm not saying she's insane,
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  Speaker 1: because that would be a defense under the law. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying that what personality is that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, this is where you go back to the cluster
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  Speaker 2: b the borderline antisocial and sociopathic. When you have all
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  Speaker 2: three personality disorders, it becomes yet another psychological perfect storm
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  Speaker 2: for these kinds of behaviors. So let's think of antisocial.
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  Speaker 2: Antisocial is again reckless disregard, lack of concern for the
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  Speaker 2: rights and safety of others, the failure to payback gets
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  Speaker 2: to society kind of a parasitic lifestyle, impulsivity, hypersexuality, So
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  Speaker 2: that's antisocial. Sociopathic. As we all know, they turn into
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  Speaker 2: really high level grifters. I mean they're total parasites. They
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  Speaker 2: live off of other people, they have absolutely no remors.
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  Speaker 2: These are the people who can kill and become quite criminal.
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  Speaker 2: Then you have borderline. That borderline is an interesting one
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  Speaker 2: because you have what we call affect disc regulation. These
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  Speaker 2: are the people who can't They can't regulate their moods.
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  Speaker 2: They cling to others and then they reject so they
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  Speaker 2: might put this is the kind of person who puts
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  Speaker 2: you on a pedestal idealizes you think that you're the
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  Speaker 2: best person ever, and the minute you do one thing wrong,
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  Speaker 2: they reject you. They want nothing to do with you.
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  Speaker 2: Borderlines are the ones who can plot and plan forever
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  Speaker 2: to kill. In fact, most women that we see in
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  Speaker 2: court who kill their children or their husbands do have
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  Speaker 2: borderline personality disorder. They get so disregulated, so enraged that
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  Speaker 2: they want that person out of the way.
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  Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question, have you ever heard
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  Speaker 1: of sm also referred to as s M zero four
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  Speaker 1: to six, and as an American woman with a particular
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  Speaker 1: type of brain idiosyncrasy that lays her with zero ability
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  Speaker 1: to feel fear of anything. And that's how the human
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  Speaker 1: species has made it this far. It is because we
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  Speaker 1: have fear. We hear allowed a crack of thunder, we run,
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  Speaker 1: we see a snake, we back way. It is inherent,
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  Speaker 1: it is genetic. Some people do not have that fear. Now,
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  Speaker 1: it was my belief, as a completely unlearned individual in
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  Speaker 1: psychopathy that someone who is a psychopath, they don't adhere
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  Speaker 1: to right and wrong, They don't recognize rules or narcissus.
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  Speaker 1: They namesake of a narcissist could only see himself in
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  Speaker 1: the reflection. You don't see anybody else, You don't care
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  Speaker 1: about anybody else, and what they think of you certainly
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  Speaker 1: does not concern you.
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  Speaker 2: Nancy, I've not heard of this person, but I will
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  Speaker 2: say that it has the ring of truth to me
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  Speaker 2: because what happens in our brains largely determine our behavior.
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  Speaker 2: And we have the amiged luck and that's the center
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  Speaker 2: of fear, the fight, flight or freeze, right, So that's
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  Speaker 2: the part you're talking about, the part that it helps.
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  Speaker 2: It creates anxiety, panic attacks. It warns us if we're
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  Speaker 2: driving to quick quickly that we could get an accident.
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  Speaker 2: People who have OCD obsessive compulsive disorder have overactive amygdalas,
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  Speaker 2: so they have fearful thoughts all the time. So that's
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  Speaker 2: at the top of the spine, at the base of
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  Speaker 2: the brain. It has a very important role in our behavior.
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  Speaker 2: What counterbalances that is something called the prefrontal cortex that's
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  Speaker 2: right behind the forehead. That is the breaking system, the
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  Speaker 2: center of higher reasoning, the part of our brain that
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  Speaker 2: helps us to plan ahead and to learn from our mistakes.
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  Speaker 2: Those two balance each other out all the time. So
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  Speaker 2: I would say this particular woman we're talking about lacked
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  Speaker 2: big delay and are promal cortex. In other words, she
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  Speaker 2: could plan ahead just enough to try to take money
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  Speaker 2: or keep poisoning her husband, but she couldn't plan ahead
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  Speaker 2: enough to see that she might be caught.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting because when her sister in law confronted her about
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  Speaker 1: stealing money from her husband's safe, about one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: sixty thousand dollars. She punched the sister in law in
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  Speaker 1: the face. That was her reaction. You know, most normal
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  Speaker 1: people would say, get out of my house. You don't
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  Speaker 1: even know what you're talking about, this is my money,
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  Speaker 1: blah blah blah whatever. Instead she just punched her. That's
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  Speaker 1: her reaction.
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  Speaker 2: So she's still falsity.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's not functioning on all cylinders. But you know what,
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  Speaker 1: unless it rises to legal insanity, which is a defense
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  Speaker 1: or mental defect under the law, such as a not
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  Speaker 1: guilty by reason of mental defect defense, I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: He's dead. The three children don't have a father, and
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  Speaker 1: according to prosecutors, she did it and it wasn't her
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  Speaker 1: first try because she has no compunction, and nobody matters.
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  Speaker 1: But Corey Richings, it's her world. We're just living in it.
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  Speaker 1: By Bethany, I'll see you in the courtroom.