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About About Bound Bangor management fantasy hockey
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podcast. Whoo, whoo.
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Ohe 2 who's that one? There was so.
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Bad. It was distracted.
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We are so back. We are so back welcoming
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everyone in Bangor management, The Fantasy Hockey Podcast with
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Jake, Josh and Kevin. How are you all doing?
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Chilling like you know, You know, when it's like a long
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inhale like that, there's something to say.
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I'm getting ready to get my spiel, but yeah, I'm doing
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pretty. Good.
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I don't know. I'm already having some
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withdrawal from the from the fantasy season, you know?
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You actually. I've already started my Excel.
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I'm doing something I've never done before because every year I
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tell you guys I'm gonna quit and then I come back last second.
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This year I'm telling guys from the bottom coming back.
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And so because of that I finally have.
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Because of that, I can start preparing for next year's draft
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now and keep put it out right down all my end of season
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thoughts so that next season I don't forget.
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About that too, I have like a notepad where I'm like don't
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forget this. Side this guy, My Excel's
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looking pretty juicy right now. I bet you guys would pay a lot
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of money to see what I've got on there.
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Oh yeah? How much?
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You know, it could be worth the whole season next year I've got.
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One chef I'll call. Order you wish take a lot more
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than that to see my master spreadsheet.
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Very nice. Very.
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Nice, want to get in your master sheets?
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I'm a freak in the sheets, yeah. This is the first episode Josh
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is on since he's got a baby in the sheets.
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What I don't think? It's the same but.
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The baby, the sheets. The baby has its own sheets,
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right? Yeah, I guess that technically
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is correct. Which is the best kind of
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correct? I like being cruel.
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Yeah, that's true. You can call me Daddy now.
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A lot of things are happening, but.
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Today is what happens when we're fully unscripted and.
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Unhinged, so we have no script, but we're.
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Yeah, so social media linked to our social media and the link in
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the podcast description, please follow us right as five stars if
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you like what you hear, which if you're already at this point,
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then clearly you're a loyal fan. So thanks.
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Cool. So today we're going to be going
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over our playoff brackets, analyzing each series.
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I'm going to talk about how we think the teams are going to
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perform over the playoffs. So we're going to start matchup
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by matchup. What do you guys think?
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The West or the East? Let's do East.
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East. East Coast.
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OK, let's begin with the Battle of Ontario.
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Toronto Maple Leafs versus Ottawa Senators.
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I actually. We just have to give a notice
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that we're recording this after like the first miniseries.
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Yeah, the first two games are done.
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Yeah, April 23rd. So Toronto currently has a 20
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lead in this series. So if you guys want, you can
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give your take before you, before you thought before you
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started, then after the first two games, if you yeah.
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It's obviously not looking good for Ottawa.
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I don't think they're gonna lose four in a row.
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I mean, granted, look, they lost 3, two in the last game in
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overtime. That's not a blowout by any.
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Means the goal was so fluky too. Yeah, I mean it was a nice play
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by Domi, but definitely terrible back checking the battery.
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Yeah from far. I mean all marks been pretty
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garbage so far the series. I had the Leafs like I made this
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before any of the games. I had the Leafs winning in five.
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That's wild. I have.
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I originally had a sense in seven and then after game one I
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still had time to adjust my bracket and I changed it to
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leaves in five. Yeah, yeah.
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Hi. There he goes.
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We got. The same I had Ottawa in seven
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and I did not change it, but yeah, there's no way to come
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back down to zero stop for sure to Ottawa had a really good
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chance given, you know, they play a tough style of hockey.
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They have some like really tough guys.
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They're like. They've been dying to make the
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playoffs. That whole seem like most of
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them, it's their first time in the playoffs.
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You thought they come in with a chip on their shoulder?
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Hungry. They have a really talented
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squad. Toronto's cursed.
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Like exactly. And and also like throughout the
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season, Ottawa's had Toronto's numbers.
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Look at the matchups. Year.
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Like they've actually played them really well.
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So I was like, OK, like a lot of things aren't lining up.
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Like obviously I knew auto was underdog but I was like OK
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better shot than not as an underdog to make A to give a
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crack at it. But I mean the least demolish
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them in game. 1. Game 2 was really close, which
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was, you know, nice to see, but going down to 0?
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Yeah, I think we're all pretty much in agreement that Toronto
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is taking this one at this point.
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Yeah, I think that two big factors I would say that that
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seemed to be the difference makers are one, I think you're
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really seeing Ottawa's like inexperience.
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I think that's the thing. Like it's kind of one of those
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intangibles that you can't really like quantify, but like
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you have like a team like Toronto that like they've been
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in the playoffs like every year for the past 10 years.
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Like sure, they never make it past the first round.
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That's still a lot of playoff experience, you know, for all
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those guys. And then Ottawa, like we said,
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like almost their entire team hasn't made the playoffs yet.
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So the first game, you could clearly said that they had the
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jitters. They kind of settled in Game 2.
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But like, you don't have two games to, you know, of like,
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leeway to just, like, give up and then come back, Yeah.
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And then you get taken advantage of.
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Exactly, And I'd say the biggest difference in this leaves team
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in my opinion from previous iterations is their goaltending.
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I think the difference stole ours and Samsonov and but before
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that, what was it? Jack Campbell, you know, like
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this is such a massive, massive difference.
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Even if Stollers doesn't start not playing like God, like he's
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playing now, they have wall backing up who's also a very
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solid option. Yeah, I think that's just a
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massive difference. Like they've never had really
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that much issue scoring. I mean, obviously they play
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against like Carrie Price, you know, like, yeah, everyone's
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have issue scoring, you know, but really that's not been their
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issue. They're offensive strong team,
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but the goaltending has been a big issue in the.
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Past the Sens have three really good centres.
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But the thing with the Leafs is that they've got fourth line
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Scott Lawton, which is another huge addition.
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Like IRL massive fantasy playoffs.
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If you're gonna take like a draft, like no one's taking him
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there, obviously, but like this can really, you know, that depth
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is amazing. And like the 5th and 6th on
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Ottawa, Tyler Kleven and Nicholas Matenopoulos, have you
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heard of? These hello.
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He was in the Four Nations on Finland.
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Isn't really. Either yeah, whichever one was
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more, yeah. Finland but then like you, you
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look at like the 5th and 6th D on Toronto, Benoit and OEL like
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these are experienced players, sure like they've got a really
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deep decor and. Then their 5th and 6th D is
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better than look at Ottawa's 4th.
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Do they have like Nick Jensen? Pretty much.
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Like who do they? They're actual decor is they've
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got Sanderson who's great, Yeah. They've got Zoo who's a solid
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shut down guy, and Shabbat who solid also, you know.
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But other than that it's like garbage.
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So the drop off is nuts. I find they're the big
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discrepancy comes from and then they do have more star power.
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Yeah. They just have like, no, they
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don't have a Marner. Yeah, exactly.
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You know, I, I think ultimately what it comes down to is like,
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yeah, it's gonna sound kinda cheesy, I guess, coming from you
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because I said I auto was gonna win.
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But Ottawa feels like the perfect match for what the Leafs
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need in round one. Like an inexperienced team that
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they can take advantage of on on the power play and everything.
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Yeah, Ottawa came in like guns blazing, like physical.
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They got wrecked with penalties. They got taken advantage of,
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yeah, on every penalty. And they kind of just.
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Like did you see that like Toronto has scored what, like 5
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power play goals in the first two games and like the overall
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year? And did you see that like the
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time it took for those is like 38 seconds?
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All of them have been like right off the bat, like bam bam.
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It's crazy. So I think it just goes to show
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that like, you know, this leaves team like, yeah, they've had
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issues in the first round, but they're always kind of playing
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like a Tampa. Yeah, who is?
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Obviously a Stanley Cup contender every year, right.
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So they kind of get a low ball team where like just giving them
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a baby that was just born into the playoffs and they're like,
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and you're welcome to the world. Be.
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Exactly like this was the perfect match up for them.
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It's gonna be good for them to have confidence going into the
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next round because they're needed because one of those
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floors. As a certified Toronto hater,
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this scares me this year. I think this is like their best
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chance because like you said, you know, building the momentum
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and huge. They're gonna take this series
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and I think it's going to be in a pretty like strong fashion.
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So they're gonna be going in. Obviously the next match is much
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harder, but like, yeah, I think they have a really good shot.
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This year and they have a whole mice in every matchup.
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Too. Yeah, it was really massive.
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Like towards the end of the stretch there was a point like
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with like eight games left where all of Toronto, Tampa and
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Florida were pretty much tied in points and then pulling away
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there was just massive. Yeah.
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I think they got with the bracket this year, yeah.
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All right, next we've got the Battle of Florida, the Telegraph
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versus the Florida Panthers. This is the toughest match with
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my opinion. I think the winner of This makes
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us Unique finals. That's my.
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Opinion that's fighting words. You don't agree?
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No, I think it's a very reasonable take.
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I think both of these teams could be in the Stanley Cup
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Finals. They're both unreal.
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I mean, obviously you got Florida who won the Cup last
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year and made the finals the year before that, and then you
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got Tampa who won the Cup like The Who made the finals and won
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the Cup like the three years before that.
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Yeah, so. I have Tampa going all the way.
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My bracket, even my playoff pool, I picked mostly Tampa
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players, so I'm heavily invested.
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I really believe as we record this, they got wrecked in game
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one against Florida. Three power play points.
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It's a statistical anomaly. 11 minutes.
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That's crazy. Vasilevski's not letting in that
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many goals and. I have no worries that the
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series still going to be tight. I think that's one of those
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things that, you know, Game One goes so heavily in One
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Direction, but it does not influence me.
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Cooper is a good enough coach that he could adjust, you know,
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and let's see what went wrong. And also, that whole team has a
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ton of experience. I don't see how that series
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doesn't go to seven, honestly. It was in Florida, right?
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It wasn't. Yeah, no, I think, I'm not sure
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which one has the yeah, exactly. So I mean.
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Regardless of what time, but. Yeah, no, so I'm definitely like
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that's one of them where I'm a very big over reactor to games,
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but for that one I'm not overreacting just yet.
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I don't think because they want like dominated that game high
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Tampa before and I still like I mean it's a toss up.
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This is a real 5050. I like Tampas chances.
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I wasn't sure if Chuck was gonna be back right away.
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What kind of like how he would play.
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Yeah, but I mean like, you know, I was like, I don't think he's
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fully healthy even though he had an insane like 3 point game.
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Like he said he played 11 minutes.
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They were also It was also blowout.
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Yeah, that's where they can rest their good guys.
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But uh yeah, no, I don't think he's fully healthy.
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I don't think Marshall is fully healthy.
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Marshall Lane 3. Yeah, I mean, that's just good
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depth. But and also I take Vasilevsky
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over Bobrovsky and that goalie matchup.
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So and I really, I mean Gensel is an unreal playoff performer.
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He's known for that. Obviously have Kucherov was
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unreal point Hagel who just coming off like a 35 goal season
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with 0 power play goals which is just unreal.
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Who scores more goals next year, Hagel or Cofield?
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I gotta go with Coffield but I I think he got more even strength
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goals. Hmm, but.
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Such a snipe that trade. Then they got him from Chicago
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crazy. Like he really knows how to get
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the best out of his players. Which is why I feel like the
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Yanni Gourde and Oliver Bjorkstrand acquisitions are
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going to go a long way for. Them is not he's not playing.
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I thought he saw, he thought he was healthy.
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I thought he was coming back. He's not playing now, but I
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thought he was coming back in a few.
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Games. I don't know if he's coming
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back. Devyani, but I I did see
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something about Cirelli being questionable.
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Yeah, surely is. Quest so that would obviously be
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a massive, massive loss. That would be because he's
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having an unreal season. Yeah, but but no, honestly, I
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think. This is Step 2.
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This Yeah, this is like you said, both of these guys, like
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both of these teams are teams that could easily make a run for
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the whole thing, you know, so it's kind of crazy with other
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like, you know, the format is that they're facing each other
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in round one. It's exciting.
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Also kind of sucks though for those teams, you know, but at
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the end of the day, if you can't beat every team, then you don't
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deserve the Cup anyways. So yeah, yeah.
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So either way I'm going must have edge.
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Yeah, yeah, he said. Stud.
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He's fantasy stud next year. Honestly, it is.
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Is that glad? Totally.
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Out no flats back for game three OK because he was suspended 20
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games with 18 games left in the. Season into the playoffs.
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Yeah, exactly. So he's missing game one and
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two, but he's back for game 3. OK.
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Thank you. Keep Seth Jones.
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Nice one. It depends if they do as well on
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the power play in the game too. I think it's kind of crazy to
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switch things up. Yeah, you know, like like they
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just scored about 3 power play goals for this the first game.
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So I think you're nuts if you change that up.
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So we'll see. But and they're not going to be
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like rewarding Xbox behavior either.
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You know, they don't owe him anything right now.
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So yeah, it'll be interesting. But yeah, so I'm going to tap on
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this one. How do you how do you feel like
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the rest of the games go? Like what do you think happens
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due to beat Florida? Like do you think Florida just
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out powers them or does Tampa keep temple winds but they win
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like close games every time? I think Tampa needs to kind of
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like, not fall into Florida's trap of, like, gooning it up,
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you know? Yeah, like Tampa has. 2 sport to
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do that. Though Yeah, like they have the
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skill. Like you've got like Kucherov,
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who's like the best point guy of the past like five years, you
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know, like you've got, you know, got head min points like cancel
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like we talked about. Like they've got like the skill.
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Not that Florida doesn't, but Florida is more of a like
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Florida is more of a playoff team, honestly, that they've got
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like the grit, they've got like the, you know, the Shock, like
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the pesky Ness and all. That before that they always had
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table was like the team with the grid and whatever they were
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back-to-back so. You know that like, you know
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they won 62, right? Do you know many shots Florida
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had? I think they had like 16 or
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something. Like that, there goes. 19. 17,
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there's seventeen shots. Yeah, to me, like, I'm not even
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slightly worried about this. Yeah, granted, like they still
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only scored two goals on 22 shots.
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That's not a lot of short volume from top of that to me is much
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more concerning than how many goals they let they they let in
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so Florida can shut them down defensively.
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That's how they'll win it because they'll do it 32
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whatever. But like Vasilevski's very often
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stopping 17 shots and like half a game six on 17th through the
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whole. Game.
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No, I like I said, this is not one of those series where I'm
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overreacting after game one, even though I usually do.
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So yeah. So yeah, I'm I'm going to Tampa.
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So my official thing, yeah, well, I've Tampa.
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Tampa winning 6. Would you, would you change that
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decision of the in game one? No, no.
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I mean. Like for example I think.
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Like maybe 7, like like I still have them winning, but six or
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seven? Look, I think I feel like if you
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go 7 at this point, I don't know.
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I don't, I don't know, I think. I hope it goes 7.
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Game one, I'm influenced the sale Florida in six.
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You know, they went in at home, but I hope to happen 7.
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I just, I, I went heavily on Tampa in all my playoff pools
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so. I have a lot more confidence in
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Vasilevsky. Than I do as well, that's why I
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went really hard on them. Yeah.
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We'll. See.
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So we'll see. Your final prediction, you'd say
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floor. Bracket I got Tampa so 7. 7.
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OK, so I want to but whatever I'll say instead.
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I had to open settings. I thought I started one at home,
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you know? Yeah, that was my thought
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process. I think they're both amazing
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teams, so. Shall we move on to the next
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matchup? Yeah, Yep.
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Cool, the most fun, unbiased walk.
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Washington Capitals and Montreal Canadians can't wait to go over
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our standings for the beginning of the season, but.
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Yeah, this is wildest big. Jake, listen, you know what?
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It turned. Out there was no rush.
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What Boston? I know that many slaves.
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Sometimes vibes are where it's at.
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Yeah, but OK, this one, OK, I'll just come out with it.
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I have Washington. Winning in my bracket.
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But we're in another playoff pool that 2/3 of us participate
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in. I need the hiatus, I got too
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hard in the regular season. For those of you who are heavily
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invested during the regular season, as we all are, a hiatus
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is healthy, but Kevin and I are. Just no hiatus from, you know.
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Hiatus Anyway, I have Habs there because I think that the Habs
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have like a lot of individual talent, like like some star
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power that can go a long way. Like if they do well, you know,
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Suzuki, Caulfield and Hudson are going to be their guys, right?
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So that's why I kind of went with them.
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But for who I think is going to win objectively, Washington
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people are down on them because they think that they just
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devoted the last half of the season to OV breaking the
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record. Yeah, I know.
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Like. They still want games, yeah.
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But exactly, they were still managed to win games.
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But they did not look strong though.
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The big thesis is that they have guys like, what's it like?
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Strong was had their best, his best season ever.
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Dubois, who coming into last season was sick and then he was
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a mess, but now he was sick again and chicken and it was the
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same story as Dubois. Plus Logan Thompson had a great
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season. Just I'm worried that a tandem
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goalie is now going to be the full time goalie.
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So that's why I'm like a little, I'm not very confident in
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Washington winning, but I do have to give the edge to
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Washington. I have them in six.
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I I also went with Washington because I was more mentally,
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mentally hedging, to be honest. Yeah, but I think they have a
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really good chance. I think like, I mean, we haven't
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talked about Carolina, New Jersey, but I think most people
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have Carolina in that one. I think I have the Habs having a
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better chance beating Washington NJ as of swimming Washington
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than like at this point Ottawa has a beating Toronto.
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Yeah, agree. Yeah, agreed.
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So I think like other than the. Oh my God.
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Sorry, sorry. This is fun.
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This is fun. We're also watching the Habs
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game as we speak, as we record and talk about the Habs series.
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Exactly the playoff. Spot right now, drones here and
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there, but other than the battle of Florida, to me this is the
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biggest question mark in the East.
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I think, I think what's really going to be the the dagger is
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probably special teams because the power play actually do
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anything. No, it's.
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Awful. Can we stop OV from scoring from
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a spot? Basically what's going on?
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Oh my God, we just be stopping myself.
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Really. Every curse word.
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I know it's 10 series Washington, but haps and four?
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Yeah. Josh.
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No. So yeah, no, not to be too much.
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Of a horrible just to like stick to my guns or and I would say
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that I'm just gonna win after the Canadians just scored in the
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second period here. But like, yeah, wow.
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I think back everything. Yeah, I wish.
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That's where to go. Like I wish I took back
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everything, but I still think why you love the strong team,
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OK. How does that go in?
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That's a Thompson error. Yeah, under your pad like that.
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Yeah. Anyways, not to be like a huge
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Homer, but I put Habs in seven. Definitely, definitely have the
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Homer goggles on. I mean, Washington had an unreal
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year. But it's kind of like funny.
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But even though it's not the same team of most players, the
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fact that that happens in 2021, you know, squeaked in and all
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the way to the finals, we beat like, every team we beat was a
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team that we had no business beating, you know?
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And each one was like, the next challenge was even bigger than
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the last. And it was like, there's no way
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that happens to be this team. And there's no way that has beat
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this team. And we did, you know, And like,
18:37
there's and there's just like, yeah.
18:41
What is happening? Suzuki is the like ultimate
18:45
clutch player Caulfield as well. The two of them like they had a
18:47
ton of experience going to the finals, that last one and just.
18:51
Momentum. That's it.
18:52
Like there's a real chance that they do win like that.
18:55
I don't think anybody. Sure, when I think it's a long.
18:57
Long Yeah, like. Underdogs, though, a huge
19:00
they're like, no one thinks this is going to be a blowout series
19:03
like the first game they lost the Canadians, but it was close.
19:06
Overtime, yeah. It was closed.
19:08
The comeback was good enough to give me hope for the rest of
19:10
this, for the rest of the series, and also I think the
19:12
haves needed that to like mentally know that they can
19:14
they. Can hang, yeah.
19:16
Exactly. So if we had lost that Game 2,
19:17
nothing. I'd be like if we were.
19:19
Singing like you would have been like Gigi hubs in like 5.
19:21
Or something so if. There's no way Washington
19:24
mentally reset from. That right if the Canadians do
19:27
win this series, I mean we'll talk about like it afterwards
19:30
how we think things are going to go.
19:32
But I don't think that like I think Washington strong.
19:36
Like if think of the Habs win is because the hubs are sick rather
19:39
than Washington not being. Good 100%.
19:41
You know what I mean? Yeah.
19:42
So in that case, I'd be really high on whoever comes out of
19:46
this. Because I think this is this is.
19:48
Definitely still like, OK, should we talk about the next?
19:51
Yeah, we'll talk about the next series and then we could.
19:54
Kind of. We all know who's coming out of
19:55
the next series. This Carolina island.
19:59
California. Honestly, that's fair.
20:01
I'm. So like, you know, look, if that
20:03
Jack Hughes, the New Jersey could be a playoff team without
20:05
Jack Hughes, they have no business being doggy.
20:07
They honest. No doggies back, actually.
20:09
Is he actually? Accuses, although no.
20:11
Yeah, they, they. So not only did they not have a
20:13
chance, but then in game one, they lost Luke Hughes, they lost
20:17
two other players, Brendan Dillon, and they lost another
20:21
player, Cody Glass. So they lost three more guys.
20:25
Markstrom like go out for one of.
20:26
Them. Yeah.
20:26
So Markstrom tried to like, whack Carolina player and
20:29
accidentally whacked Cody Glass into him instead?
20:32
Yeah. The glass, Cody Glass.
20:34
Yeah, no, it's a brutal but yeah, so like an already injured
20:37
team, even a healthy they're the underdog.
20:40
Losing Jack Hughes there no chance losing another three
20:43
players, including two of their like top 4 defensemen.
20:46
Yeah, they're they're cooked. It's an easy sweep in my in my
20:48
point of. View that's great for Carolina
20:49
because they'd be well rested. But as a classic like age-old
20:53
like question right is like. Do you want though?
20:55
Carolina? Always.
20:56
Yeah, but it's like, do you rather be a well rested team or
20:58
would you rather be the team that's like coming off momentum,
21:00
you know, like having more, played more.
21:01
Recently make a deep run. You wanna make you wanna be well
21:04
rested too. Yeah, that's.
21:05
Maybe it takes you a game to get back in the zone, but then after
21:08
that you still have more. I don't know.
21:11
I like, I like having the momentum, but but in terms of
21:14
like, you know, long playoff run, like you said, then then I.
21:18
Agree it's the playoffs are long and it takes a.
21:21
Long look like injuries, right? Like yeah I know injuries can
21:24
often be random, but a more rested team I think it's like
21:27
much less. Likely to get injured.
21:29
Dominated most of the match and they were like taking care of
21:31
business in four or five games. Yeah, that's true.
21:33
Do you guys think that Carolinas better this year than they were
21:37
in previous years? Like pretty, yeah, like you're
21:40
saying with Taylor Hall and Logan Stank over, over basically
21:42
like. Two goals, which is nice.
21:44
Yeah. I think it's good to give him
21:45
some confidence, yeah. I still don't view him as much
21:48
of like an X Factor. I think he had a good game, but
21:51
I don't see him being a a big factor in the rest of the place.
21:54
These are the exactly the type of guys that, like Rod, can, you
21:57
know, make it work with. Them this is not fun.
22:00
Yeah, the best corner in the. League.
22:02
So This is why I feel like Washington is probably no, but
22:07
at the end of the day, I actually think that they are
22:09
significantly better because he's just made Taylor Hall come
22:13
back the dead like he's amazing now Hall.
22:16
Honestly, I think their biggest difference is Shane Gostisbehere
22:21
quarterback, Yeah, I like instead of Brent Burns.
22:23
Ready decisions interesting to me.
22:25
I think that was a no brainer, really.
22:26
Yeah, he was. He was pretty clearly, other
22:28
than his injury, he was pretty clear like the starter.
22:30
Yeah, yeah. And I think they were saying
22:32
like there was such a fluky goal and I think they were saying
22:35
that's schedule wise, they wouldn't get like 2 days off
22:39
until like Game 5 or 6. So I think that's when they're
22:42
going to go and and maybe rest them.
22:44
But leading up to that, like you got to play your.
22:46
Best guess, not even need that much rest because they're gonna
22:48
sweep it and then you can rest. I mean, I kind of feel like
22:50
nothing we've talked about all the matchups.
22:52
I, I think the three best teams in the East are all on the same
22:55
side of the bracket. It's Toronto, Tampa, FL Yeah.
22:59
So like, I feel like whoever comes out of the side of the
23:01
bracket, I think Caroline is the strongest team here.
23:04
But I can see like Carolina Washington, like they can
23:07
ultimately have a a really easy way to the Eastern Conference
23:10
finals. There's a.
23:12
Stronger than Washington? I I think.
23:14
I like Washington over. Washington, Yeah, So should.
23:17
Be here, but I think I wouldn't be surprised if Carolina.
23:19
Wins. So what do you guys?
23:20
Think either of those teams lose to whoever comes out of the
23:22
other side of the bracket. Should we dive into it now or
23:25
should we start with the West? Like should we like go further
23:28
in the East? Yeah, let's see, let's see,
23:30
let's go further in these. Fine.
23:32
So I think Carolina Washington that's the quote UN quote most
23:35
likely matchup. Let's.
23:36
Say so I guess Josh, here is where you.
23:38
Differ. Yeah, I have.
23:40
I have Montreal, Carolina, Yeah. And then I put, I put Montreal
23:43
winning. A lot.
23:46
Yes I I do. I don't want to spoil the rest
23:48
of my bracket, but Montreal has never losing.
23:52
Yeah. So now we'll have the second
23:56
round. I feel like we both.
23:59
Are done. We both have Toronto Tampa,
24:04
right? Or we all have Toronto Tampa.
24:05
That's correct. At this point I.
24:06
Think Toronto, Tampa. Yeah, I had Ottawa, Tampa.
24:09
Yeah, I feel like you're changing consensus.
24:12
And then we'll offer this score by Dylan Strome easily.
24:17
Washington's going to win. And then?
24:20
2 minutes gorgeously. Oh my God, don't never lose it
24:23
again. 2 minutes later is like one cooked.
24:27
Yeah yeah, that's a bad month. Yeah, yeah.
24:29
So. We got Washington and Carolina
24:32
I. Think all alone in.
24:34
Front of me. I don't understand that, Yeah.
24:35
So honestly, it doesn't really matter who you choose because I
24:39
well in here, I think Washington or Canadians beat Carolina.
24:42
Kevin, you think it's the? Opposite the next.
24:46
Round the Eastern Conference finals.
24:48
OK, so Josh, what about you? Do you think the Canadians beat
24:52
Carolina? Like obviously.
24:53
Just Washington just feels like, I know they're good too, but
24:56
something just feels squishy to me.
24:58
No, I definitely I like. I mean, I feel like Carolina on
25:02
some, like some like Fortnite juice or something.
25:07
Yeah, they're running on fumes a little bit.
25:12
Listen, it's I kind of know what you mean, because they haven't
25:16
really been playing like real. OK, real hockey, real hockey
25:19
work come out of the point to prove right the whole Rantanen
25:22
saga, Yeah. Is that not a penalty?
25:24
That's got to be a penalty. So I think if he's injured,
25:27
we're we're cooked. Pause it really we should just
25:32
probably so Carolina Washington. I would say that I I would have
25:39
Washington or Canadians being Carolina.
25:40
Yeah, I know what you mean. Though, like there's some sort
25:42
of vendetta. Here has like the experience
25:44
they have the pedigree they they can make it far.
25:47
They just don't have like the the killer instinct that thing
25:50
to make it. But I think this, you're getting
25:52
blessed with the east side of the bracket, to be honest, so.
25:55
Yeah. I agree, but I'm just not
25:57
impressed with their team. Either, but I'm not impressed by
26:00
the other either side of the bracket.
26:01
Either like to me, Cook and Yami is like a far cry from like
26:04
Dubois. For sure.
26:06
Yeah, he sucks like and like, I mean.
26:10
But it's a better defensive system.
26:11
Yeah, they're they're very, very well coached like, but still
26:16
nevertheless, I mean. And I don't, I don't trust their
26:19
goaltending that much. Yeah, me.
26:22
Neither like Freddie and Kochetkov, like they both can be
26:24
good, but I don't think they have the consistency.
26:26
Like Thompson and and the Linguine are in the same boat to
26:30
be. Honest, I mean lingerie is a non
26:31
factor. He's not getting any games.
26:32
But I don't think you're giving Thompson enough respect for how
26:35
you played this year. Great stretches too, but he also
26:38
had really bad stretches. So the same reason I'm scared
26:41
about Logan Thompson, I'm scared about Freddie because he was a
26:43
tandem guy. Yeah, you know, and, and
26:45
honestly, it many times he was the worst town guy, whereas
26:47
Thompson was clearly better than lingering throughout like that,
26:51
like hold dear and then some, so.
26:53
And the whole last stretch. Lindgren.
26:56
I yes they were. So he's more well rested.
27:00
So to me it just. All rested are less game ready.
27:03
Yeah, all signs point to Washington here for me to be
27:06
honest, or the Canadians. I just I'm not that impressed
27:09
you like you're not wrong to say that, though, because they are
27:12
there are team built for the playoffs and this is kind of
27:14
Rod's goal as a coach is not to have anyone break any records
27:18
during the. Season power and files.
27:21
Alright, alright, that poor house hasn't been through
27:26
enough. All right.
27:29
And what about what about Toronto and Tampa?
27:33
Toronto, Tampa. I no.
27:37
Wait, wait, wait. OK, well, we'll do this one and
27:40
then we'll we'll. Pause.
27:41
OK. Say it again, Josh.
27:44
What about Toronto and Tampa? Yeah, so to me here, I think
27:48
that this is extremely even match because it's too top heavy
27:51
teams with crazy to say because last year wasn't even a starter,
27:55
but good goalies and also well coached.
28:00
Like I I find that they match up super well against each other.
28:03
I think it's gonna go really deep like 6-7 games and then I
28:08
think that Tampa would win. I also think that Florida would
28:13
win. To be perform sticking to my
28:16
guns, the Florida, the team from Florida who wins that matchup is
28:20
going to go to the Eastern Conference.
28:21
Finals. Stanley Cup.
28:22
That's my that's my thinking too, Josh.
28:24
You agree? Yeah, agreed.
28:26
Yeah. That's.
28:27
Easy. That feels pretty
28:28
straightforward. Easy.
28:29
Critical. I mean, who do you who do you
28:30
think has a better chance of beating Toronto, Tampa or
28:32
Florida Metropolis, Florida? Yeah, I agree.
28:37
I think Florida. I don't think Toronto could
28:38
handle Florida's grit. Yeah, yeah, exactly 2.
28:42
Yeah, but not until four days. Left.
28:44
Yeah, you got like Marshall Antishock.
28:46
Yeah, the two veins of Toronto's existence.
28:48
Yeah, I just feel like they're too like, because I actually
28:51
think that they built a really good shutdown team, but they
28:53
don't have anyone to screw with those guys, you know what I
28:56
mean? Yeah.
28:57
So that's my that's my take on that.
29:00
I just think that was played four times, played four times,
29:03
played Toronto so many times, I feel like they just got their
29:06
number 2. But Toronto won the last time
29:08
they played. Each other I know, but it's
29:09
different. Yeah, yeah, you're right.
29:12
It's because like it's the Gears of of tablet just yeah, beating
29:15
them and they're like. Click table beat themselves
29:17
almost. They were just like rundown,
29:18
fatigued. Yeah, yeah, it's.
29:20
True. Anyways, I I think that's the
29:22
matter. We've seen so many times that I
29:24
don't know, I don't have to run him making out of the second
29:26
round. Agreed.
29:27
I wouldn't be shocked if it happens, but I'm heavily
29:31
favoring both Florida teams. Yeah, and what if Ottawa makes
29:36
it? They're.
29:37
Going. They're not.
29:38
Making it no matter what I I have I have the Florida team
29:44
winning yeah yeah. This is tough though, because
29:47
bracket wise, like I mean like really like we said whoever wins
29:51
this series is gonna go all the way.
29:53
So either you yeah, I mean like I don't know, I just feel like
29:57
the the wrong move was whoever wins loses to Toronto or Ottawa.
30:01
That's my my assessment. Would you have that daughter
30:04
you? Have Tampa beating Toronto.
30:07
Of tablet beating Alwa so OK, yeah.
30:11
Anyway, and then conference finals, it would be Kevin, says
30:15
Carolina. Carolina, I say.
30:17
Washington, Tampa. I say Habs, Tampa.
30:21
So you know what, I'll give it to you.
30:23
If the Canadians get to that point, I think the hubs are
30:25
gonna be whoever. Yeah, like I, I think going
30:27
through Washington and like, not that Carolina is not a good
30:30
team. Like they're good.
30:31
Like if they. Could do it.
30:33
That's what we've lost, that we met them in the finals.
30:35
Yeah, but yes. We had carried price.
30:40
Yeah, but there was only like I, I saw three guys like 3 or 4
30:46
guys from that team who are here now on the ABS.
30:50
Yeah, like I feel. Like, I feel Suzuki.
30:52
Anderson and Anderson, I think. That's a Gallagher.
30:56
Gallagher Correct. Yeah, Five guys.
30:59
That's like nothing. Yeah, it's almost like I was so
31:06
confused for a second. That was hilarious.
31:09
Just say, what do you mean? I couldn't even think of that.
31:14
Alright, so we all have Tampa making it to conference finals,
31:16
but who wins that one? Comes out of that side.
31:21
You guys both think Tampa bars. The other thing I think.
31:23
I've got I've got habits feeding.
31:24
Tampa, I think. I think the only team that beats
31:26
Tampa is the Habs. Let's go.
31:28
But yeah, yeah, I mean my. Love that you guys are crazy.
31:33
I don't know. He's getting there.
31:34
But gets built on dreams. So.
31:36
So my bracket heroes Tapa beating Washington, here's this
31:39
Tapa beating Carolina, and yours is Hobbs beating.
31:42
Yeah, but we're all really high on top of so.
31:44
That's so pretty much from the east.
31:47
You guys both have Tampa and I've got Montreal.
31:49
Yes. I don't know if that was gonna
31:51
be alone, being high on time. I thought you were gonna be home
31:53
in Toronto or Florida. I mean, yeah, that's clearly
31:56
like the Thunderdome, you know, like we said of the Eastern
31:58
Conference, like that's the division not to be in.
32:00
You know, like we definitely got lucky being the second wild card
32:03
instead of the first world. Right there for sure.
32:05
I do. I do wonder how we would have
32:07
matched up against Toronto. Though I think we could.
32:08
Be I think we gonna beat them just because of like the memes,
32:11
you know, and like the curse and all that.
32:12
Like I think they'd be so in their head about it about.
32:15
Yeah, exactly. Honestly, like Martin, just like
32:17
joins the house and. Signs that you signed a contract
32:21
in mid game. See if there's a half jersey
32:24
underneath. Oh God, yeah.
32:29
Alright, cool. So after the break, we're going
32:31
to return with our Western Conference and then we're going
32:34
to get into who we win, who we, who we wins, cool, Who we think
32:38
wins the Stanley Cup. OK, let's get into the Western
32:44
Conference. West Coast.
32:45
Best coast East Coast is beast coast.
32:50
Yeah, I like that one better. What do we think about these
32:53
matchups overall? I feel like they're exciting,
32:55
but I don't know, like. I think there's two really good
32:58
ones. There's two really lopsided
32:59
ones. OK, so let's start with.
33:01
The most lopsided one we'll spend the least time on.
33:03
This one I think is Winnipeg, Saint Louis.
33:06
I had Saint Louis winning this one.
33:08
Yeah, I knew that. Yeah, as we recorded 20
33:11
Winnipegs. Yeah, obviously now it's easy to
33:13
say obviously Winnipeg, but Saint Louis is the best team
33:15
since the Four Nations. They are.
33:17
I mean, I will say the loss of Holloway is massive.
33:19
So that's a that's pretty huge. Yeah.
33:21
I think actually like I think with Holloway, they they would
33:23
take it, but I think without him it's not looking good.
33:26
I'd I'd Saint Louis in seven, but now it's looking Winnipeg.
33:30
Honestly, that's pretty much all there is to say about it to me.
33:33
Like I think Saint Louis can give them a run for their money
33:35
though but. As a team, I I don't think that
33:37
they're totally lopsided. I just like, I don't know, I
33:40
feel like Kyle Connor is probably the most underrated
33:42
player in the league. He's like a superstar and he's
33:45
showing up big. Hella Buck is the best goalie.
33:48
Yeah, crazy for an injured Matthew Couchoud.
33:51
Yeah. But also, like, Winnipeg's not
33:54
healthy, you know? Eilers is injured.
33:55
Velarde's injured. Yeah, like.
33:57
The book hasn't been playing as both.
33:58
Halibut sucks in the playoffs. I mean, he had his last game was
34:00
really good, but but his historically he's really bad in
34:03
the playoffs. So yeah, I didn't think about
34:05
like going into it. I don't think it was crazy to
34:07
say Saint Louis. There's always some upsets.
34:09
It's not over. But I don't know, I don't like
34:11
you. I don't like your spot if you're
34:13
the underdog and you're down to nothing series.
34:15
I mean, I feel more confident that they could do something
34:17
like Ottawa, let's say, yeah. You know, if you're looking at
34:20
the teams that are down to nothing like.
34:21
The good news that you is you lost two games away from home.
34:24
That's true. So you know, I mean you can
34:25
rationalize it be like we're coming back to our house, we win
34:27
one and then you can fight every one more game.
34:30
You know, get a 22 and then anything can happen.
34:33
But I mean I I. Think it's going to actually
34:36
happen, like I think it's going to be too.
34:37
And then going to win both. Yeah.
34:39
I don't know why. It just feels like that.
34:42
I don't think, I don't think this is going to go down without
34:44
a fight. Like I said, I originally had
34:46
them winning it. Now I'm not.
34:47
I mean down to nothing. I don't.
34:49
I don't like their chances asleep but but I don't think
34:51
they're a pushover. I can see it being like a sweep,
34:54
but like the last two games, they go to overtime.
34:56
You know what? I.
34:56
Mean, yeah. Which would not be fun but for
35:01
for Saint Louis. For what it's worth, Montgomery
35:03
had amazing success with the Bruins and then they just got
35:07
knocked out and went the first round was there.
35:09
Saying maybe he's not a good playoff.
35:10
Coach. Yeah.
35:11
I mean, I don't know if it's like.
35:13
Those two, but they were already underdogs going into this
35:17
juggernaut team. Too.
35:18
Yeah, yeah, they won the Presidents Trophy.
35:20
You know there's not nothing to laugh at.
35:22
Yeah, which is interesting. We all kind of think Winnipeg at
35:25
this point. When is whenever lardy and
35:27
neither is expected back do. You think has been upgraded to
35:30
day-to-day, but healers I don't think is.
35:31
I think they say he's not gonna be back for the first round.
35:33
Yeah, exactly. Because honestly, like if they
35:35
do make it to the second, then they're they're serious, serious
35:39
team against one of the following teams going.
35:42
Yeah. Colorado, Dallas.
35:45
What do we think? Here.
35:47
Yeah, that's such a shame that it's a first round match.
35:49
I actually can't believe I have them.
35:51
I have Colorado and Five and that's an error.
35:53
I don't think it's gonna be. Colorado and six.
35:56
But yeah. Colorado still won last game.
35:58
I don't know if you are. Watching Yeah.
36:00
It should have been 20 Colorado winning both games away from.
36:03
Home, yeah. If Robertson was playing.
36:07
Crime Story watch different I mean do you lose your best
36:09
player like. So I just kept thinking about
36:11
it. I'm just like does Dallas teams
36:14
does like we were saying after they got ranting like, Oh my
36:17
God, it was beating Dallas like best like top nine ever.
36:20
But I still look it up. It's like it's still Dallas.
36:21
Like they still like they still always struggle to score goals
36:25
and feel like they have to fight so hard for their goals.
36:27
Whereas I saw my kid in like, do crazy stuff and he's already has
36:30
three goals in two games. Yeah, no, he's not.
36:33
I don't know. I think, I think with Robertson,
36:34
with Easton, I would give the edge to Dallas for sure.
36:36
I think they're an unreal team when healthy.
36:38
But you lose your number one defence when you lose your
36:40
number one forward, you're going to take a serious hit and in a
36:43
series was already would have been close.
36:44
Like, you know, then you have Colorado getting Landeskog back,
36:47
even if he doesn't make a big of an impact, it's an emotional
36:50
impact to the locker room. You know, like your getting your
36:51
captain back like that's massive, like just like
36:54
intangibles. Yeah, exactly.
36:55
So I think it's a I think Colorado easily, easily.
36:59
I don't think any easy series, but I think I'll easily say
37:02
Colorado. I think, I think it's like
37:04
Colorado and. I'm putting them in six.
37:06
Years Max, Yeah, I think they could win both games at home.
37:09
I guess I'll just stick to what I wrote at 5:00, but I don't
37:12
think it's gonna be. Five, especially at this point,
37:13
11 series so. You shouldn't be Colorado in
37:16
six. That's what it is.
37:17
They'll win both at home. Dallas will win one and then.
37:19
I think they're talking about at home, yeah.
37:21
That's what I think, but. That means that matchup, we all
37:24
kind of agree, is going to be Winnipeg, Colorado.
37:25
Yeah, which? Is this one will be This is a
37:29
big thinker for me, author. We'll do the other ones first.
37:33
OK, so this is an interesting matchup I find, because a lot of
37:37
people would probably have Vegas winning over Minnesota.
37:41
For sure. To me it's not that much of A
37:43
given though, like. They, I think Minnesota is very
37:46
underrated because of all their injuries.
37:48
Exactly. And they got all those guys back
37:50
right before the playoffs. And I don't know if you
37:52
remember, but Minnesota was like third in the league.
37:54
Yep, before their injuries, you know, to Kaprizov, who's atop
37:58
like 5 player in the league, top 7 debates, something like that.
38:01
And Eric Snack was just a massive like all around guy for
38:04
them. So that's two massive, massive
38:07
guys to get back. Makes everyone else around them
38:09
a lot better also. So yeah, I don't think they're a
38:12
pushover. I think they could be one of
38:14
those sneaky wild card sets. I see I just.
38:16
See, I still have Vegas winning, but I think I don't think it's
38:18
as easy of a matchup as as people are assuming based on how
38:22
the season. Went I just see Vegas has like
38:24
that like the the temp of the West type of thing.
38:27
Yeah. I mean just kind of just.
38:28
Like that team that's always in the playoffs and it's always
38:30
good in the. Place find a way to and always
38:32
like you, people forget about them.
38:34
They're not the flashiest team of the year, but then they end
38:36
up we're like all Oh yeah, it's true it's the playoffs.
38:39
Vegas doesn't. Really good, yeah.
38:41
I just, I don't think Hill is a good goalie really like.
38:45
You know he feel you. Are you the opposite of the
38:47
past? Yeah, boy.
38:48
Yeah. Really.
38:49
He's won the Stanley Cup. He deserves the right to like,
38:51
play. Oht yeah, but I I at this point
38:53
don't think that he's. I don't think he's like that
38:55
game breaking goalie that you're like, Oh no, we're playing Eden
38:57
Hill. Like that's a, you know, an X
38:58
Factor. But like, he's definitely no
39:00
slouch like. To me like good.
39:03
Yeah, I think Customs is a better goalie than hell yeah,
39:05
but I don't think it's like a massive discrepancy.
39:08
It's. Not like it's like.
39:08
Stuart Skinner, I was gonna say Skinner is an active liability.
39:11
Was a solid goalie. Yeah, he's better than him,
39:13
yeah, but it's just. He's not the Vasilevski and
39:16
Ottinger. So you know someone you're like,
39:18
Oh yes, we have Hill. It's more how many more starting
39:20
goalies in in the playoffs would you rather overrated until.
39:23
Kemper, Blackwood. Scholars.
39:26
Who would I not rather? Over like, obviously.
39:28
Baltimore, Eden Hill. Multiple.
39:30
Rather has been unreal. He's very wild card.
39:35
I would think Markstrom. Anderson.
39:38
I'll take hell over Anderson. I think I take Bennington
39:41
Overhill. I think I pretty much would, No.
39:44
I'm like the lowest on Hill. Skinner.
39:45
Skinner. So it's just the worst one of
39:47
them. Everybody else over in hell.
39:49
Yes. No, I've got, I've got Skinner,
39:52
I've got Anderson and I've got Markstrom, all beneath Hill, but
39:57
I think that's it. Mark Sherman talk because I was
39:59
just. Thinking.
40:01
I'm here. It's tough.
40:02
Actually, you're right, because I'm a bit biased by how bad in
40:06
New Jersey is. Yeah, so maybe I'll take
40:08
Markstrom, but I'll definitely take hell over Anderson.
40:10
I think that's a no brainer. Does fair that I can get on
40:13
board with? But we've seen them win the Cup
40:14
with this goalie. So that's I'm saying.
40:16
No, I know. I mean, clearly he has it, but
40:19
he also, I don't know. I don't know.
40:21
He's not someone I'm worried about having a Nets.
40:23
He's just, he's not going to be the game breaker, but he's also
40:25
not like, I'm not like. Gives me like Corey Crawford
40:27
vibes. Yeah.
40:28
Crawford was sick for Chicago. I feel like you.
40:32
He was carried by really good teams also.
40:33
Yeah, I feel like he was always kind of like the unsung hero
40:35
kind of thing I do. Nobody said they were winning
40:37
because of him. But he got the job done.
40:39
Yeah, exactly. I got Vegas and 7:00 so I.
40:42
Actually had Vegas in five, I think.
40:45
Yeah, well, I'm kind of, I'm kind of regretting because I
40:47
think Minnesota is gonna give them a run for their money, but
40:49
I. Just I think the last game where
40:51
Minnesota really. Wrecked them.
40:52
Yeah. Yeah.
40:53
And like home for Vegas. So I like about it is the fact
40:56
that they were away. Yeah, answered.
40:58
That's wrong. Yeah, yeah, if minute.
40:59
No seriously reason. We were saying if Minnesota
41:01
continued in the trajectory of the what they had at the
41:04
beginning of the season, they had a healthy team all year,
41:06
Yeah, nobody would be writing them off.
41:08
This could have ended up being like a higher seat for all we
41:11
know. They.
41:11
Were also had injuries too. Yeah, yeah, but not nothing like
41:16
cup results. Yeah, guys, but yeah, they're
41:18
still a stronger team now than they were before.
41:20
One thing I'm worried about those like Zieve Boyum like.
41:23
Yeah, he's a liability like he. Played his.
41:26
First game. Yeah.
41:28
With him though? Like it's one game and now he's
41:30
like, they're probably 1 quarterback.
41:31
Like it's tough. That's a lot to put on him,
41:33
right? Like it was the first.
41:35
Time ever he was in the. Playoffs, I don't know if he
41:36
plays like he does he. I don't know.
41:38
But also like I find power play quarterbacks a lot less
41:41
stressful than putting him in like defensive situations.
41:43
You know, like as a rookie, if you could just play him like as
41:45
a power play on quarterback and just never put him on like
41:47
defensive zone draws, you know, that's a way to.
41:49
Like him and I think it was last.
41:51
Game. Yeah, that's true.
41:53
Yeah. Just an exciting prospect.
41:54
They'll see how to use them. It's kind of like all these guys
41:56
who got signed and come in at the end are like all wild cards,
41:59
you know, wasting. Surprise coming?
42:01
Exactly. Yeah, but I feel like on defence
42:03
you're mistakes are. Way way 100% cause that's why
42:06
you're gonna be protected a lot. I would.
42:07
I could see him playing at the home games and not playing the
42:09
away games because they could control his matchups better.
42:12
Yep, true, but also like you, don't you want to have some
42:14
consistency? In your lineup, Yeah, for sure.
42:17
Yeah. So you guys think it's Vegas
42:19
easier? I think it's going to Vegas in
42:21
seven. We'll see.
42:23
But if Minnesota wins, it will be a serious upset.
42:25
Minnesota is my favorite dark horse team at this point though,
42:28
because I think Saint Louis and Ottawa are out.
42:30
Yeah, Canadians. Not looking good, tough, but
42:33
they're running socks. I like the teams that like are
42:36
kind of like, oh, it's easily. The best of the wild card teams?
42:39
Yeah, me too. The only other one I would say
42:41
is Saint Louis. I thought I was pretty high on
42:43
them but now they're down to nothing serious so I'm bit lower
42:45
on them, but yeah. I'd love to see a reverse sweep.
42:48
I'd love to. See, I'd love to see auto
42:50
reverse sweep Toronto, but that's just because I have a
42:52
huge Toronto hater. 4 Reverse sweeps Montreal, Saint Louis.
42:57
That is crazy. Alright, last one is.
43:02
LA. Rams series we've had three
43:04
times in the past three years. Except this time, I think it's
43:07
gonna happen. You think so?
43:09
I think LA's gonna. Win.
43:10
You know what, I actually I had Edmonton winning, but at the
43:13
time when I did my bracket, I thought that Byfield was injured
43:16
and I think him being healthy is a massive difference.
43:19
He's so unreal. Give it in the face.
43:22
I didn't see that, but you know. That's that's a smart.
43:25
Move if you're trying to win a series again.
43:28
That because you're just like waking up the beast in him, then
43:31
he. Went before yeah, that's very
43:33
fair. But yeah, I know.
43:35
So I think this if there. Ever was up doing it and Ellie's
43:38
cursed. If there ever was a year,
43:41
though, this is the best LA team and the worst Edmonton team of
43:44
the past four years. So if there and it's not like
43:46
the other ones haven't been close, right?
43:47
Like they've been like, you know, six games like that.
43:50
Like 6 or 7. Yeah, so.
43:51
Wasn't it last year that it was like way more 1 sided?
43:54
Yeah, I think I think last year was a bit rough, but also
43:57
Edmonton is missing came back yeah game, but they're missing
44:00
at home, which I think is a massive.
44:01
Massive. Huge loss they like.
44:03
Who else do they have on defence that's good?
44:05
Bouchard's an offensive answer who's honestly awful at defence.
44:10
Nurses a liability. I like Cooler, but he's like a
44:13
third pairing defenseman. Defensive guy.
44:16
Yeah, but he sucks. Like, yeah.
44:19
Yeah, I honestly think that the addition of Kuzmenko is going
44:25
along way for them. Yeah, he's been really good.
44:28
And I. Think it would last this long?
44:29
No, me neither. I'm shocked that it's happened.
44:31
I remember podcasting in our in our playoff episodes.
44:34
I was like I kept saying in our streamers, like who's macOS
44:36
Power Play 1, you know, something to keep an eye on.
44:37
You don't like mangoes Socks? My total, Like honestly I don't
44:42
remember but I probably did. Yeah, you guys totally wrote
44:45
him, which is fair because he did suck.
44:47
You know, I remember the podcast podcast.
44:49
I'm so were like, Oh yeah, just signed for LA and we were all
44:51
like, you know. If you need someone.
44:54
Teams picking him up and like it's not working now, then
44:56
you're being scratched because he's not good defensively.
44:59
Yeah. So what's good about this is
45:00
that he doesn't need to be Yeah, do anything defensively.
45:03
So he's so good on all. That same thing that they have
45:05
should be doing the demo of they should be putting on Power Play
45:07
1 and just letting him do the offence.
45:09
But anyways. Like.
45:12
Does nothing. You have Kopitar, Kempe, Fiala,
45:14
Byfield, and then like the third line is great too.
45:18
Yeah, You know what I mean? Like even Laferriere is good.
45:21
Yeah. I don't know.
45:22
I like, but at the end of the day, it's McDavid and Draisaitl
45:26
that's it's unreal team versus McDavid and Draisaitl.
45:29
So The thing is Ellie's team is better.
45:32
There's no question about that. But it's McDavid and.
45:36
Literally almost come back from being 40 down.
45:38
But it's also Stuart Skinner, so.
45:41
Yeah, tempers do you guys? Think if if Skinner leads
45:43
another like terrible game that they put Picard.
45:45
In, then go to pick. Surprise didn't go to him for
45:47
Game 2 honestly, but I guess it's a bit early cause like they
45:49
do that then like skinners really like he's done.
45:51
You know, they can't pick apart as a bad game then like you
45:54
can't go back like so I get it, but it's a bit of a mess in
45:57
Edmonton, especially with injuries.
45:58
We'll see if Andrew Kane can do anything.
46:00
But I mean he's coming off like his entire body being bionic
46:03
now. So you know, like I don't expect
46:05
him to make that much of an impact, but who knows?
46:08
I mean if you just bang some bodies in the mix, the other
46:11
team scared, then it could be some sort of impact.
46:13
The West is so. Stacked it yeah, it is.
46:15
I mean, it's, it's interesting to me that uses like a bit more
46:18
fun, but this is like really serious.
46:19
So next round on the top we've got.
46:21
This everyone have fun at La Edmonton.
46:24
I have LA and six. I mean, I'm going to be, I can't
46:27
say we'll be rooting for we had Temporal, my fantasy team.
46:31
Yeah, fun. But I feel like the Oilers were
46:33
just gonna make it. Happen.
46:33
I put Edmonton as well, OK, But honestly, like it's gonna be
46:37
very, very close. And like I said, when I when I,
46:39
when I put my bracket, I thought Byfield was injured, so I might
46:42
have put LA if I if I knew he was healthy.
46:44
Yeah, I'm sticking with LA I really do believe in.
46:46
Them what? 6.
46:48
Six, OK, I think for sure this game.
46:50
I think 7, yeah. I could see that.
46:53
Be awesome around 2 in the West. Top one is interesting.
46:58
If The Jets do get those guys back, I.
47:02
Have Colorado. Yeah, yeah.
47:03
Like so Colorado to me, I have Colorado beating Winnipeg.
47:07
Simply, we don't have the games. Here I have Saint Louis being
47:09
Winnipeg and then Colorado being.
47:11
So we have Colorado in the East, the Western Conference final.
47:14
Sorry, Kevin, you 2. The thing is cool, very nice.
47:19
We made. The thing is that if they do get
47:23
those two guys back, I really think it's going to be quite
47:26
close. Yeah, the goat, yeah.
47:29
No so secret. Putting $0.05 in the jar.
47:32
Exactly. But yeah, I mean, I've got
47:34
Colorado here. One of us has to draft him next
47:36
year so we can keep talking about.
47:38
You Josh, it's just too good. Value keeps falling.
47:41
He's so. Good.
47:42
Almost frustrating. Amazing.
47:44
Player gets drafted first next year.
47:45
Velardi or Zuccarello? Zuccarello on my do not draft
47:49
list. Really.
47:50
Yeah, it's too old. I probably will already feel
47:54
like there's already. So you lordy or cool coffield?
48:00
What? Obviously.
48:01
Garfield so. But I love Lardy.
48:04
With this or you're in Cairo. Cairo.
48:07
Yeah, probably. Matina Kairos brother.
48:11
I'll take Mallory. I already like really really
48:15
good. I love, I love already.
48:16
So you always stand by you some Belardi.
48:19
We love him. We all think Colorado is gonna
48:21
go to the next. Round exactly, and then we've
48:23
got. But Winnipeg is really like,
48:24
honestly, they're intimidating me now.
48:26
They are. They're really good, I mean.
48:27
Like I wasn't giving them their flowers.
48:29
If, if Hellebuyck can figure out his postseason like woes, like
48:34
if he could turn into like playoff Price, which he should
48:37
be able to. He's as he's regular season,
48:39
he's as good as Price was, you know, So if he can figure it
48:42
out, then no one's beating them. But that's a big if because
48:45
historically has been really bad, yeah.
48:48
Yeah, the argument for winning the Norris, the heart, and
48:50
maybe. Like the Norris?
48:54
There's another heart. Yeah.
48:56
Yeah, and you could. Win Consummate.
48:57
Yeah, that'd be cool. Yeah.
49:01
But then on the next second round we've got Vegas and I
49:07
guess either LA or Edmonton. So to me, I've got LA winning
49:10
this. I think that LA or Edmonton beat
49:12
whichever one of the other two teams.
49:14
I have Vegas making it through. Really.
49:15
Yeah. I think I'd put Vegas as well,
49:17
really. Yeah, OK.
49:19
And you would have Vegas over either of the teams because you
49:23
had Edmonton. Edmonton, then I think Vegas
49:26
matches are well against them, but I think LA beats Vegas.
49:30
I could see that. I think if Ella could finally
49:32
like slay their dragon, I think a lot of times when teams do
49:34
that, they they make a run for it, you know?
49:36
Remember, like much really well with Vegas.
49:38
When the Caps finally beat Pittsburgh, that was the year
49:40
they won the Cup. You know, that was there like
49:42
dragon, right? Yeah, yeah.
49:44
When you have these teams that play against like the same team
49:46
again and again, oftentimes it leads to a big run.
49:48
I mean, you've also got Toronto, who finally beat Tampa and then
49:51
got like swept in the next round or like 4-1.
49:53
But but yeah, you know, it could go either way.
49:55
But but yeah, no, I've got I've got Vegas going and then I've
49:58
got Vegas Colorado in in the conference finals, yeah.
50:02
So feeling Vegas and Ellie are really built a similar way.
50:05
Yeah, I think there's a bit deeper though, no like.
50:08
It's probably a bit deeper. And they got a better goal.
50:10
They got better goalie, better goalie.
50:12
Camber is unreal. Yeah, less star power.
50:14
Like they don't have any goals. They don't know Mark Stone
50:16
really. I guess they have like Mark
50:19
Stone caliber. Rafaela.
50:22
Yeah, like not like fantasy like IRL.
50:24
Anything at this point? Yeah.
50:26
OK. So in that case, like they're
50:27
really just missing like an iCal superstar level.
50:29
Player. That's a huge.
50:30
Play so the trade off would be the better goalie, which I would
50:33
personally take for playoff longevity, but that's me.
50:37
Goalie is the most important position at the end of the.
50:39
Day Yeah, granted, I do think of Minnesota gets in that Elliott.
50:43
Minnesota. Uh.
50:47
Was Vegas with the highest seed though?
50:49
Between who and who? Vegas and and LA slash Edmonton,
50:53
Vegas, Vegas. Yeah, Vegas would be is the
50:55
highest. Of all of them.
50:57
So I mean, L is really good at home, right?
50:59
So. That's a good point.
51:01
I feel like. I feel like if Minnesota does
51:04
win, then Edmonton beats Minnesota.
51:07
But. I think both of those teams beat
51:09
Minnesota in the second round, but I think regardless of the
51:11
team in the second. Round Minnesota could could beat
51:14
LA, but Edmonton would beat Minnesota and I think LA beats
51:18
Vegas and Vegas would probably beat Edmonton.
51:22
So this is like a really. Big way more Rock paper
51:24
scissors. Sorry, just got Vegas, Colorado
51:28
in the conference finals. Yeah, I have LA for sure.
51:31
If LA wins, I think they're definitely going to Vegas.
51:36
I would probably think it's going to Vegas over Minnesota.
51:38
Probably closest matchup. Yeah, LA, Vegas.
51:40
Yeah, Yeah, it's gonna be close. So then you guys have Colorado
51:44
beating LA or Vegas? Yeah.
51:46
Yeah, Colorado was my team this year.
51:48
OK, I have LA beating Colorado. I just.
51:52
I, I think that's a bit much. I could see, I could see LA
51:56
beating Edmonton. I could see a beating Vegas but.
51:58
That boy, they can't be Colorado.
52:00
I don't think so, really. I I think Colorado is just a
52:02
different beast. This.
52:03
Year. Listen, I wouldn't be shocked
52:05
but Colorado is the the rolling and McKinnon has been clutched a
52:09
whole year. Blackwood is finally goaltender
52:12
they can rely. On.
52:13
I mean, it's like not it's a very similar team to the one
52:17
that won the cup, except instead of like, who is there when they
52:21
won the cup? Was it jerky?
52:22
Ever was a camper, camper, camper?
52:23
It's not a camper of Blackwood. I mean, I guess it's kind of
52:26
lateral. You have Pretty Little.
52:27
Yeah. So it's a very similar to the
52:29
one that got him, but they have. Great natures.
52:34
It's just, I don't know, I feel like there's a lot more.
52:36
But they got Nelson. Yeah, they got listen, listen
52:40
like. Been pretty quiet the first two
52:42
games though. Yeah, they have big Val.
52:44
That's going to be the question mark with the Colorado.
52:46
Is Val going to dip out on them again midway through the
52:49
playoffs? If that happens, they're cooked.
52:51
He's such a like. He's in my playoff pool, so I
52:53
hope. Not He's such a like crucial
52:55
piece to that team. It's kind of crazy.
52:57
Like they're like a record with him and without him, both in
53:00
regular season and playoffs. It's just nuts for one player to
53:03
have such a difference. Learn nutrition or Slavkov ski.
53:08
I'll take Val. Really, thanks for our league.
53:11
It takes laugh. I think I'm taking.
53:13
Slough but I feel more confident and values points.
53:16
My thing was laugh is there. A full.
53:18
Year is there's a chance he loses power Play 1 to Demidov
53:22
yeah so obviously like there's in my mind there's no way by
53:26
halfway through the season Demi was not in power play 1 and the
53:28
question is does he take slapper lining spot?
53:31
It could be either one, but I don't like taking a guy I'm not
53:35
going to take him assuming he is probably 1.
53:37
Essentially they're. More likely to it's true.
53:40
Take it from sloth, I would say. But Liney literally only does
53:43
one thing. If you don't have on our plate,
53:44
is already on your team. Please.
53:45
Exactly. He's a righty camp is a left
53:48
left and was lefty. Yeah.
53:50
So that's why I'm like, even though is younger, they would
53:52
want to build that out more than one.
53:53
Position isn't, isn't. The net front guy, it's yeah.
53:57
It's not like handy handedness. Reliance, yeah.
54:02
No, I don't necessarily think you would slot there.
54:04
I just mean. But honestly the only way Line
54:07
is on power play 1 is if he's not on the team anymore.
54:09
You're like, what are you keeping him around for if he's
54:11
not on the power play? His workout?
54:14
Right. Next year, Yeah, next year.
54:16
His last year of his contract. I don't know, I feel like.
54:20
Either way they could go either way, but yeah, I'm not gonna
54:23
take him as a guaranteed power play one guy.
54:25
Where does my mind Val is a guaranteed power play one guy?
54:27
So so you guys have Colorado winning?
54:30
I get it, Yeah. I just think of LA gets there,
54:31
LA's gonna. Win.
54:32
So you've got me going all. The way really we're talking
54:34
about like. Digging your back, you have a
54:36
going all the way. Wow.
54:37
OK. And finals?
54:40
So you're both of Colorado on the finals?
54:41
Yeah. And you have have speeding
54:43
Colorado. Yeah.
54:44
OK, cool. Just like unbeatable, you have
54:48
there gonna do it. And you have Colorado beating
54:51
Tappa. I have Colorado beating Tampa.
54:54
Yeah, OK. And Jackie, you have.
54:55
Tampa beating LA. Interesting.
54:57
Yeah, which I guess only winning.
55:00
I could, I could honestly, such a coin flip for me that if both
55:03
teams get there, but I do feel like LA's path is much harder,
55:07
yeah, like way, 100% harder and grads it.
55:11
Like, I mean, I guess I'm just going to like if I could go
55:13
back, I'd probably flip it because if LA does get there, I
55:16
think that LA could be Tampa because maybe Colorado if they
55:19
be different and they beat Vegas probably.
55:21
Such a crazy four teams to have to beat to make the cut.
55:25
It's so nuts. Yeah, that's why, like,
55:27
honestly, the only thing is that they may just be worn out.
55:29
Yeah. And top up may just win because
55:31
of. That they have an easier way,
55:32
yeah. Not that Tampa is an easy way,
55:33
either. No, but much.
55:34
Easier, I mean Florida, the Toronto.
55:36
The thing is. I'm then haves.
55:41
I'm super Rohan. Colorado obviously isn't making
55:43
the Stanley Cup Final, but like you just said, they're wrong.
55:46
They're so hard. I wouldn't be shocked if they
55:48
lost any of these matchups, you know what I mean?
55:49
Yeah, they lost against Dallas. It's not like a crazy.
55:52
I'm not for sure Dallas looking. For crazy upset Colorado.
55:55
Is the underdog. Like obviously you take the
55:57
injuries into account and then Colorado becomes a bit more of a
56:00
favorite, but like, Dallas is the higher seed.
56:02
Like it's not, you know? Colorado's just Edmonton, but
56:05
they got it done. Well, I thought Dallas is the
56:07
best team coming into the playoffs and then Alverson got
56:09
hurt because they played and that gave.
56:10
Me two for no reason. That would be the best team and
56:13
then lose 1 player and then like completely.
56:15
Collapse, but it's it's like. You can though I don't watch
56:17
Colorado loses McKinnon. That's what I was gonna say
56:19
like. Every team has like all the
56:21
best. Teams have a way to do
56:22
something. No, none of the none of these
56:23
teams is winning the cup without their best player.
56:26
Yeah, name one team that has a superstar who could win the cup
56:29
without him. The Vegas where I go.
56:33
I don't think they can without ankle, no.
56:37
Toronto without Matthews. That's more.
56:39
Likely playoffs without Matthews.
56:43
Yeah, yeah. I just think it would be too big
56:46
of an. Yeah, no, it's and any team
56:48
loses their best player when it's a superstar like you're
56:50
you're not making the cut. Like you could still, you could
56:52
still go far in the playoffs, you know, and pray your guy gets
56:55
healthy by like in time for like the finals.
56:57
But the other teams haven't lost their best player, you know, so
57:00
they have a massive advantage. Yeah, so I got Tampa winning
57:05
I've. So Jackie has Tampa, Kevin has
57:08
Colorado, and I have Montreal. 3 equally likely scenarios.
57:12
Before we wrap it up, give me like, I feel like I have 3-4
57:17
teams that I'm like, not shocked if they win the Cup.
57:20
Like I feel it's gonna be one of those 3 four teams, know what I
57:22
mean? Yeah, yeah.
57:23
Like to me, it's Tampa, FL, Colorado, Vegas.
57:31
I feel like it's one of those four teams.
57:34
I feel like Winnipeg is in the mix.
57:36
They're really. Solid to me LA like 3.
57:40
Four teams. So Tampa, Colorado, Florida and
57:47
LA. Will repeat that.
57:51
Taba, Colorado, Florida and Los Angeles.
57:55
OK. Yeah.
57:57
So it's like table or Florida, we both things are going to go
57:59
all the way. So I would say that that's
58:00
pretty quote UN quote safe. And then Colorado I also think
58:06
super strong. And then LA I literally.
58:09
Have going to the finals. So I have Tampa, Colorado,
58:13
Winnipeg and Montreal. I can't help myself.
58:18
OK, if I'm not going to believe in them, then who?
58:20
Will like that little kid from The Polar Express you.
58:25
Believe. What were your Tom Hanks?
58:32
Oh my God. But yeah, so we're all you know.
58:36
Yeah, this to me is gonna. Be this is the best like I think
58:38
first round of the playoffs in awhile though yes.
58:40
I there's so many good. Matchups.
58:41
I agree. I'm like honestly I just feel
58:43
like it gets better and better every year I I feel this way.
58:46
Little Florida we go. Battle of Ontario.
58:48
Which is a rarity. We don't have taps.
58:51
Yeah, I mean, Carolina, New Jersey especially like elite
58:56
Oilers again. I really wish Columbus and made
58:58
instead of New Jersey like they could have could have actually
59:01
been interesting series, you know, like it's a waste.
59:03
And they would have made a dent. In Columbus, could have beaten
59:06
Carolina Could. Have.
59:07
Could have. New Jersey literally getting
59:08
swapped. It's just like.
59:09
New Jersey doesn't have Jack Hughes.
59:11
Yeah, they were missing their first.
59:12
Yeah, no, like they they have no chance.
59:15
So we think the least likely team to win here in New Jersey
59:19
and like our favorite. Winning game.
59:21
Yeah, our favorite dark horse is Minnesota.
59:23
At this point, yeah. I mean my, my, my.
59:25
I mean, obviously I've got my Habs, you know?
59:27
Yeah, but other than that. Like favorites at this point.
59:29
I really, I really liked Saint Louis.
59:32
I mean, I guess I underestimated Winnipeg and I underestimated
59:35
the loss of Holloway, but I really thought if any team was
59:38
going to do the upset, it would be them.
59:39
Yeah, I mean, the worst has no bad teams.
59:43
Yeah, no bad teams. Whereas like you look at the New
59:46
Jersey, like some people will be like all the Habs, Ottawa,
59:49
Ottawa, yeah. Yeah, for sure.
59:51
That's why they're playoff race was like, so you know, like like
59:55
last place going into like just like Christmas break, you know,
59:59
they made it to the playoffs. So the only other part of this
1:00:01
thing I guess would be do we think that LA or sorry, rather
1:00:05
sorry the team from the West, probably LA, do we think that
1:00:10
that like the Western Conference takes longer to complete because
1:00:13
it's a harder? Yeah, absolutely.
1:00:15
Yeah. Do you agree, Josh?
1:00:16
I think so too. I feel like that's why it'll be
1:00:19
like easier for the team coming from the East to get there and
1:00:21
to win. More than the East, but if you
1:00:25
like, I don't know if this year is going to be E team.
1:00:29
Yeah, maybe because they're well rested it's possible.
1:00:31
That's honestly it's so. Fun.
1:00:33
And I will say, like I know we we all said that that Florida,
1:00:38
Tampa, you know, like those are going to be the one from the
1:00:40
east. But like, I hate to say it, but
1:00:41
you got to give some amount of consideration to Toronto this
1:00:44
year. If it feels like a different
1:00:46
team than past years, they're getting the free number, What
1:00:49
they're getting the first round pass, which is their, you know,
1:00:51
that's their demons is the first round you.
1:00:53
Know I'm not yet I'm not saying it's a free for.
1:00:55
Tonight, if you ask me, 5 teams, Toronto would have been my
1:00:59
fifth. Yeah, it's like I feel like that
1:01:01
top right corner of the bracket. I like the West team to be
1:01:04
honest. Really.
1:01:05
Which team? Probably Winnipeg.
1:01:08
That's fair. I feel like Toronto is more
1:01:09
likely than Winnipeg. Yeah, I think like if they're if
1:01:13
they're guys show. Up Winnipeg is.
1:01:15
Great, they got the best goalie to go, one of the best power
1:01:17
plays. Yeah, yeah.
1:01:18
No, I still, I still like Winnipeg more, but I just wanted
1:01:20
to throw Toronto out there just as a yeah, one more, you know?
1:01:23
There's a lot of good teams here.
1:01:24
Is really like even. Yeah, I feel like.
1:01:26
It's not. Like, you know, yeah.
1:01:28
You have to. You have to believe in.
1:01:29
Something happy to have made the playoffs.
1:01:30
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're just happy to be
1:01:32
involved, yeah. Exactly.
1:01:33
Just happened to be here and next year, that's our year
1:01:35
maybe. Yeah, no work such a force next
1:01:37
year I feel like coming into the.
1:01:39
Season draft. All Habs players do the opposite
1:01:41
of my normal strategy. Yeah, just gonna draft like
1:01:43
Suzuki, Caulfield, Hudson, Demidov and.
1:01:47
Slash Oh man, your poor wife. Yeah.
1:01:53
OK, does that wrap it up for this episode y'all?
1:01:56
Yes it does. Thanks to everybody for joining
1:02:00
us in the offseason. We're definitely going to bring
1:02:02
you a lot more content over the next few months before next
1:02:04
season. It's been a really fun year with
1:02:07
y'all and I think I said that in the last episode, but I'm
1:02:09
reiterating it. We'll probably bring you some
1:02:11
more playoff content. Too Yeah, we've also got we've
1:02:15
got our beer bets episode, we've got our look back on the past
1:02:18
season, you know guys to look forward to for next season.
1:02:21
We got a lot of good stuff coming out so.
1:02:23
Genius. Those predictions, especially in
1:02:24
The Atlantic. Exclusive to The Atlantic.
1:02:26
Yeah, the. The standings are the standings
1:02:29
1 So we've got we've got to get out the sides.
1:02:31
I don't think you love either. That's crazy.
1:02:34
It's gonna be the best nachos ever.
1:02:37
Yeah, we're gonna have a big reveal for that one.
1:02:39
But yeah, thank you, guys. Enjoy watching the playoffs this
1:02:44
year. It's going to be a wild ride.
1:02:46
Sorry, I should do this properly.
1:02:48
It's going to be a bumpy ride. Take it away and.
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