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- 0:06This is the AST Space Mobile podcast and.
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- 0:21Listen, the opportunity that we have is very, very, very large.
- 0:27Good evening everyone, thanks for joining this time I can
- 0:29actually see people join and I'm just trying to fix my microphone
- 0:34off. So shocking to see people still
- 0:39joining after all the people on the Internet saying that.
- 0:43And Pan man, myself and Katsi are scammers, pumpers and retail
- 0:47predators. So you know, with that as a
- 0:49preface, anything you read on the Internet, assume it's true.
- 0:53And then, you know, let the people who are sharing their
- 0:58diligence, their opinions, their research, you know, fight for
- 1:03themselves. And so I know, you know, it's
- 1:07kind of blows my mind at this point for someone who's been
- 1:10sharing all of their research, which I believe all my stuff is
- 1:13cited. I get that I'm a little bit of a
- 1:16cartoon, certainly a little bit loose on my shit posts and
- 1:19things like that. But I think a lot of you know me
- 1:22at that point and you can see, you know, my research and the
- 1:24grind of really kind of undertaking for the past five
- 1:28years, you know, along with Catsy and Pin Man, you know, and
- 1:32then you know, other other people obviously, like Tanner
- 1:35and Kevin and you know, a lot of people on this phone.
- 1:39And so always makes me wonder why the vitriol toward this, You
- 1:43know, why why don't these bears in shorts sort of just do their
- 1:47thing, leave it alone? Like, why is there such catnip
- 1:50to this name? And it really reminds me a lot
- 1:53of how Tesla evolved. There's just this hatred and
- 1:57this desire to see this really deterministic entrepreneur fail
- 2:03in Elon Musk. And there's, there's just
- 2:06something about it. People really don't like these
- 2:08sort of visionary founders. And I'm trying to think of an
- 2:13exception where that visionary founder actually really failed
- 2:17'cause they'll point to the Trevors of the world.
- 2:19But there was never any substance to that.
- 2:21You never really had the bona fide validation.
- 2:24Now the bears will say, you know, Nikola had GM validating
- 2:29it, but we all kind of know that was bullshit research.
- 2:31GM just didn't do any and we we know and it's verifiable that
- 2:37the many, many partners, not just one of AST space mobile
- 2:41have done incredible amount of work.
- 2:42We don't have to take their word on it.
- 2:45We can see it all in the testing and the third party validation
- 2:48and things like that. So I, I find it remarkable and
- 2:51it really comes out in force when the stock is crappy.
- 2:54Last week was really hard. I certainly take a toll, unlike
- 3:00a proper pumper. What I don't do is, you know, be
- 3:03like, buy the dip guys. It's going to be OK.
- 3:05I have real sense of gallow humor.
- 3:07It's just the way I'm wired. I think it really drives the
- 3:10unpan man crazy. He's like usually like kook,
- 3:14you're like dark humor is scaring people.
- 3:17And I'm like, bro, it's who I am.
- 3:19There's darkness in my heart. And you know, and Pan man can
- 3:22be, you know, the like happy Baker, whatever.
- 3:25That's his persona. It's actually like how he is as
- 3:27a person. He's very pleasant, nice
- 3:28individual. I'm a little bit more of a gloom
- 3:35doom Gallo. The world is falling.
- 3:37I like to embrace the darkness. And so when the when the stock
- 3:40is trading terribly, I don't fight it.
- 3:42I let it enter my soul and course through my body like a
- 3:46virus, waiting for my immune response to trap that virus and
- 3:50kill it brutally and totally. And so last week was one of
- 3:54those days where I just let my emotional gate open and let it
- 3:58come in. And it sucked.
- 4:02Last week sucked. You can see the burnout.
- 4:04You can see everyone fighting and crashing out.
- 4:07And usually that happens at times at the bottom.
- 4:11So this this decline has been somewhat vexing, but kind of
- 4:14actually on schedule in my experience with ASTS.
- 4:17We'll have these awesome runs up to 130 high 5.
- 4:20You know, I'm like Tanner, bro, why don't you like move in, man?
- 4:23We'll start a fraternity and that's always the top.
- 4:26And you know, classic, that's what happened.
- 4:28And and then you get the decline.
- 4:30And then usually it's like, OK, this is going to be short
- 4:33because look at all these events.
- 4:35And that's when bottoms don't form because there's still hope.
- 4:38And then we have all the TA guys come.
- 4:41All of a sudden I'm like, please reform trader, show me the way.
- 4:45And unfortunately, like all of his triangles, there's always a
- 4:48story. And he's always the first to
- 4:50admit these stories can change. And he's looking for narratives
- 4:54that didn't take hold. He's not predicting the future
- 4:56and he never, never is saying he is.
- 4:58He's looking for probabilities around risk return.
- 5:03And then you can see how it shifts.
- 5:05And I find the TA so interesting because it really shows the
- 5:09collapse of the human spirit at various levels.
- 5:12And you know, when the weakest new people sort of fold and
- 5:16capitulate and really like, where does the stock have to go
- 5:20for people who don't know it well and don't own it to step
- 5:23in? And one thing I've always found
- 5:25in my career that is, you know, then the spear that has slice my
- 5:30heart is I generally know more about an investment than anyone
- 5:36else. And in this instance, anyone
- 5:38else is like with the exclusion of Katzie Ampan Mantana or Kevin
- 5:41Shannon. You know, there's like, OK,
- 5:42there's a couple people that know better than I do, but by
- 5:45and large, I I probably know it more than anyone else.
- 5:48And so as a result, I have the most confidence.
- 5:50And guess what happens when you have the most confidence?
- 5:52My discount rate is the lowest. I've been willing to price it
- 5:55the highest because I hold it when it goes up.
- 5:58And then what happens when the stock goes down?
- 6:00Guess who does not have buying capacity?
- 6:03Me. You know, we're not all ampan
- 6:05man who can like buy the dip with his royalty streams from
- 6:08selling like a sort of consumer goods all across Asia.
- 6:12You know, I don't have that sort of backstop in life, so I just
- 6:16eat it. And that's what happens
- 6:19generally in the market is the people who know it the best
- 6:22already own it. And so they don't provide any
- 6:25buying support. It has to reprice so that, you
- 6:29know, people who are generalists can go like, oh, I get it.
- 6:32I I don't have this knowledge. I don't really understand non
- 6:35communication use cases. I don't really understand L band
- 6:37like, but I do generally understand this NAV framework.
- 6:42And so I can see a floor, you know, I not me, but this
- 6:46hypothetical buyer that steps in.
- 6:48I can see how there's downside support at call it 50 bucks, you
- 6:52know, whatever. And that's where you then you
- 6:54start to have this support and it's this tiered level of buyer
- 6:59graded by people who are the most bullish, who know it the
- 7:02best. And then the people who are the
- 7:04least bullish know it the least and use a different valuation
- 7:07regime at various points. That's who's going to set the
- 7:12price. And I've seen this throughout my
- 7:13career. This narrative works really well
- 7:16on stylized examples like oil and gas where you'll have things
- 7:19like 1P reserves versus 3P reserves.
- 7:22And so using that as an analogy, it actually makes a lot of
- 7:24sense. It's like, OK, what's the hard
- 7:26NAV here? That's where the conservative
- 7:29distress guy just steps in and goes, I own it here.
- 7:32And then the, the person that really knows the, you know, the
- 7:35geology, etcetera is like, well, I'm going to give these like 3P
- 7:38reserves value because I actually really have a view.
- 7:41Well, they're the ones that will own the stock at the highest
- 7:43price and doesn't mean they're the dummy because if they're
- 7:45right, the stock might go up a ton.
- 7:47The distress guy never bought it because it never got to his
- 7:50clearing price for entry. And so there's no right or wrong
- 7:53answer here, but it's very useful to understand sort of the
- 7:56the path dependency of where these levels come into play.
- 8:00And this past week we've really had a lot of despair.
- 8:03And again, like I said, and now I can see Anpan Man join.
- 8:07Well, Anpan man was away. I was, you know, just to remind
- 8:09him, especially when he's on mute and can't respond.
- 8:11I was just saying how he's usually like, you know, kook
- 8:14your dark sense of humor, you know, scares people and things
- 8:16like that. And I just again, I just try to
- 8:19embrace it. Anyone, you know, everyone
- 8:21should know me at this point where when I'm posting like all
- 8:23caps, like there is no floor. You can go 6 feet under and like
- 8:28pictures of like screaming cats. I'm usually laughing my ass off
- 8:33when I post those things right about, you know, right before I
- 8:36go jump in and surf and like leave everyone to ponder those
- 8:39posts. So don't freak out when you see
- 8:40that. That's actually when I'm like
- 8:42the most bullish 'cause I'm just screaming with myself.
- 8:44And anyway, so let's get to the let's get to the facts of the
- 8:48matter, which really is people should realize that I'm a total
- 8:51wing nut nut job, unstable person who channels all of his
- 8:57frustrations in life through researching 1 stock and one
- 9:00stock only. And so know your sources, do
- 9:03your own work. And you know, all these people
- 9:07are calling me a retail scammer again, I have no idea.
- 9:10I'm not a retail scanner, so that's my also my comment is I
- 9:13am not a retail scammer. So I hope that allays everyone's
- 9:16fears. But next week, not this week,
- 9:19but the next coming week, we have ASTS earnings.
- 9:23This is going to be a very interesting call.
- 9:25So on one hand, they're going to have to talk about what we
- 9:27already know, which is the failure of BB7 to make orbit
- 9:32and, you know, past tense. So what everyone is focused on
- 9:35is batch shipment #1 and really what that means in terms of, you
- 9:41know, what I call 3 till Infinity.
- 9:43So yes, I have the meme all preps for people that go back to
- 9:47early 1990s RAP. 3 to Infinity is my theme of what's about to
- 9:53happen. Once we have the next batch of
- 9:55three satellites, they will presumably have uncorked and
- 10:00debottlenecked the entire production line.
- 10:01And so it really is 3 till Infinity.
- 10:05And I believe that on the earnings call, we're going to
- 10:08have, if not shipment already, but very high visibility toward
- 10:13the next shipment, which might not be enough for some people,
- 10:16But I believe for a lot of us who are long term investors is
- 10:19going to be quite enlightening. And then we could very easily
- 10:24have some developments around some military contracts and
- 10:27things like this. So it's going to be an important
- 10:29earnings call and really set the tone because it's going to
- 10:32define the timeliness of this investment into the back half of
- 10:35the year. And so if they can convince
- 10:37people that they really uncorked the production bottlenecks,
- 10:42which I think I personally have a pretty good handle of, and
- 10:45it's one of those things where it can certainly seem darkest
- 10:48before dawn. Many people can confuse darkest
- 10:51before pitch Black Death, end of the world.
- 10:54That's what is fun about markets is, you know, the same
- 10:56information can lead people to believe that the patient has in
- 10:59fact died. I think that this earnings call
- 11:01is going to be one of those awakenings and could set the the
- 11:07fever for people realizing that this is a second-half of 2026
- 11:12gangbuster investment. And what is going to really
- 11:15help, too, is any increased visibility the company can
- 11:19provide around monetization because now the bears are back
- 11:21out of like, Oh yeah, of course the tech works.
- 11:25Wait, what? And oh, yeah, I guess they'll be
- 11:28able to build these satellites even though they still like to
- 11:31rain on that parade. But now we're kind of back to,
- 11:33you know, there's no market and you know, it's just it's
- 11:37interesting to see the bear narrative change, which is fine,
- 11:40they're entitled to it. I could care less, but it is
- 11:42interesting to track. And so into this earnings call,
- 11:47let's review what our bakery correspondent reporting live
- 11:52from his high carb lifestyle shows that we have in terms of a
- 11:57setup. We have all time high short
- 12:00interest. We have acutely negative
- 12:02investor sentiment. So yours truly has certainly
- 12:05crashed out like angry want to go break stuff.
- 12:10Having my kids tell me that I rage bait that much.
- 12:14I don't think my kids actually know what rage bait means, but
- 12:17that's what they said. They're like daddy, you rage
- 12:19bait because the stock went down.
- 12:22Like, OK, wake up call, probably should get more balanced life.
- 12:25But then we see the implied and realized volatility near their
- 12:28lows, you know, about to have an explosion and then we have the
- 12:32big upside catalyst to come. And then a lot of us, as you
- 12:35might not be surprised, are tracking very, very carefully
- 12:38all sorts of little tea leaves that that make us believe that a
- 12:43lot of things are going really right.
- 12:45So we have a really great set up, which is nice.
- 12:48The company has to deliver and almost sort of like you need,
- 12:52you know, that invisible hand to come down from heaven and guide
- 12:55you toward the light. AT&T pops up and, you know,
- 12:58gives us a little bit of love on on X, which is interesting
- 13:03because just the other day we or actually last week, we had that
- 13:06conversation about analyzing John Stanky's comments from the
- 13:09earnings call where despite him saying, oh, we have all these
- 13:12options and we're going to partner with, you know, SpaceX
- 13:15and Amazon. What he really said is we cannot
- 13:19let ASTS fail because we depend massively on them.
- 13:22And we have no idea when these other services will actually be
- 13:25available. And so the forensic analysis of
- 13:27what Stanky said was incredibly positive.
- 13:33And anyone that, you know, was wondering about that, go back to
- 13:36last week's weekly where I've documented all this.
- 13:38And so sure enough, AT&T is out kind of pumping, letting us know
- 13:43that, you know, they still love us.
- 13:46And what I think is also useful is remember, we're not in a
- 13:50political debate where there's like little gotcha moments like
- 13:53this is not fake life where you're trying to impress the CNN
- 13:56anchor about something ridiculous.
- 13:58This is real life where you're trying to either create value or
- 14:01die. And it's binary in the ultimate
- 14:05outcome of like you have done it or you have not done it.
- 14:08And the experts will like to measure all these goal posts on
- 14:13a relative like what they said and what they did, but failing
- 14:16to recognize that the movement of a company toward domination
- 14:21is very hard to do. And so when you look at there's
- 14:25this guy, I think he's some language, I can't say, but his
- 14:30his username is at Stefan Pooh 13.
- 14:33And he's from some country that uses Cyrillic.
- 14:37I can't remember what you call that alphabet, but non, non
- 14:41Roman alphabet. And he goes, the problem is this
- 14:45company grew the valuation by setting unrealistic
- 14:48expectations, not by delivering what they guided for.
- 14:51Well, he's got this totally wrong when it comes to the
- 14:54primary act of like making money.
- 14:57And so I view myself again as a shadow board member.
- 15:00I view myself as running my own family office, thinking like an
- 15:03industrialist, you know, hidden from view, but trying to control
- 15:07the world through my investments, trying to kind of
- 15:11be Iron Man, honestly, in my spare time.
- 15:13And so when I think about this, sure, I could get wrapped up in
- 15:17like what guidance was and the fact that they annoyingly miss
- 15:19it almost for sport at this point.
- 15:22But then I step back and go, what is it I am trying to
- 15:26achieve as Iron Man? I am trying to have Asts win.
- 15:34And so initially, the experts said the satellites would not
- 15:38work at all. They would get no contracts, the
- 15:40FCC would not approve them, they could not hire, no one would
- 15:43launch them. There is no spectrum, there is
- 15:46no government business and a whole host of other things.
- 15:50And so then what have they done? The satellites work, They have
- 15:55almost all the M and OS. They have FCC writing the rules
- 15:57for them. They've recruited global talent.
- 16:00They have launched contracts galore.
- 16:02They own their own spectrum in the most valuable market in the
- 16:04world. They are part of Golden Dome in
- 16:07addition to 10 other programs. And there's a lot of other
- 16:10things they've done like set up a European subsidiary, God knows
- 16:15how many other things they've done that haven't thought about.
- 16:17And so again, expectations are relative.
- 16:20The market ultimately sets expectations based on the price
- 16:23of the stock. When the stock was $2.00, the
- 16:25market expectation was this company goes bankrupt.
- 16:28So they have exceeded the market's expectation at $2.00.
- 16:32The market's expectation at $20 was they might not go bankrupt
- 16:36and they might muddle along and maybe there's some strategic
- 16:38value to this company, but we have no idea if they can
- 16:40actually deliver anything. The company has exceeded that
- 16:43expectation as well. And so first for for those of
- 16:46you they're not professional investors, it's very easy to get
- 16:50influenced by others and to really be infected by this line
- 16:58of thinking of like, well, they missed their guidance.
- 17:01Tesla has missed their guidance. Lots of companies have missed
- 17:05their guidance. The question is, did they miss
- 17:08their guidance because they were a mature industry leader and
- 17:12they're missing guidance like revenue because of competitive
- 17:15onslaught? That's a problem.
- 17:18And so when like Chegg started to misguidance because ChatGPT
- 17:23was invented, you have a problem.
- 17:26When Tesla misguidance because they were revolutionizing the
- 17:31entire concept of what transportation was by
- 17:36commercializing and building the first scale electric vehicles
- 17:40that people wanted to buy in the world, that's a different type
- 17:44of missing guidance. When SpaceX is unable to hit a
- 17:49launch target for Starship, that's a different type of miss.
- 17:54That's an innovation miss versus pressure from competition miss.
- 18:00And so when I look at this, the whining and crying and moaning
- 18:04and groaning on ASTA missing guidance is not the same thing
- 18:09as Blockbuster. Missing guidance because Netflix
- 18:13is destroying their entire foundation of being is not the
- 18:19same. And people can do whatever they
- 18:23want, surely. But what I really want to make
- 18:26sure people at least think about is making sure you're
- 18:30contextualizing A disruptive guidance miss because a business
- 18:35is about to suffer versus a guidance miss because a company
- 18:39is embarking on making the impossible possible.
- 18:43If the latter and they succeed, you're going to be OK even if
- 18:50they miss some guidance, because what it means is that everyone
- 18:52else is going to try to copy them is really far behind, and
- 18:54they will probably also miss whatever timing.
- 18:56And we're already seeing that with Starling.
- 18:58Their service sucks and who knows when it will not suck.
- 19:03And Kiper has had all sorts of problems and they're really far
- 19:05behind. So it's really important to
- 19:08contextualize this. And then the goal posts are
- 19:12being shifted by the Fudsters all the time.
- 19:16And so that what I wrote in the tweet is the, the world
- 19:20previously thought ASTS was, you know, 4th down in like 1,000,000
- 19:24yards, basically impossible. And it's just not the same when
- 19:31when looking at the nature of what they're trying to achieve,
- 19:34the difficulty in immateriality of missing guidance versus
- 19:38getting it right and solving the natural challenges you have of
- 19:41doing something no one's ever done before.
- 19:44So that's an important point. Then let's go check in with
- 19:47Katzie. And so there were some
- 19:50interesting developments around Spectrum.
- 19:52I actually meant to look into this a little bit more.
- 19:55It shows to screw around on a six foot 4 surfboard instead,
- 19:59which was a way better use of my time.
- 20:01I can catch up on the Spectrum stuff tomorrow, but point is the
- 20:07company is using all sorts of techniques to massively increase
- 20:11the capacity. Of their spectrum, what's really
- 20:14neat about this stuff is using different waveforms on the same
- 20:18spectrum. So those waveforms aren't going
- 20:20to interfere. So you can kind of shoot wave A
- 20:22and shoot wave B on the same spectrum and achieve different
- 20:26things like radar versus communications.
- 20:30And so that obviously provides an incredible opportunity for
- 20:33monetization of of the company. And these are all sort of the
- 20:37exciting things. And when Katzie brought these
- 20:40things up three years ago, to say he was laughed out of the
- 20:42room is an understatement. And again, that's where people
- 20:45like Tim Farrar went truly batshit and would say some of
- 20:49the most vile things possible to Katzie, which is just, again,
- 20:53remarkable. If you know the guy at all, He's
- 20:55just like really nice guy. And, and to, you know, accuse
- 20:59this guy of some of the things that Tim Farrar accused Katzie
- 21:02of being is, is just simply, you know, like spitting derogatory
- 21:09words at Mother Teresa. And, you know, and then it turns
- 21:12out Katzie's right, you know, and the joke, you know, we have
- 21:15if Katzie's right about everything, the guy's kind of
- 21:18been right about everything. And it's not because he was
- 21:20guessing. He saw it in the documents.
- 21:23And he put one and one together. And so the company, despite some
- 21:26of their efforts to hide some of these things for competitive
- 21:28reasons, would give just enough little clues.
- 21:31And Katzie would bury himself in these FCC filings and ITU
- 21:35filings and is a is a very inquisitive guy with evidently a
- 21:43very technical background, but certainly a capacity to learn
- 21:48really unlike anyone else I personally know.
- 21:50And he used that to figure some things out and he was very
- 21:54generous to share it all with us.
- 21:56And lo and behold, he's right. And so he's useful to go back
- 21:58and, and for, I know for Ampam man and I, we're always just
- 22:02sort of amazed because we realized I had to kind of listen
- 22:07to this guy, you know, three or four years ago when Space Mob
- 22:09was like 6 people. And, you know, we didn't like be
- 22:13dismissive of him. But at some level we're like,
- 22:15are we really on this conference call with this guy?
- 22:17And it's like stocks at 2 bucks, bro.
- 22:19Like don't give a shit about your radar theory.
- 22:21Like we just like can't go bankrupt.
- 22:23And, you know, but we entertain him because we're nice guys too.
- 22:26MP man and I are both are generally not.
- 22:28We're not going to be like, yo, you're wasting our time.
- 22:31And we're really glad you listened to him because it gave
- 22:32us incredible amount of confidence about all sorts of
- 22:35other things and made us sort of believers.
- 22:38But it is, you know, worth calling balls and strikes.
- 22:41And so now we're seeing a lot of these things come out into the
- 22:43open and it's remarkable. So now let's get to the AST
- 22:48proxy statement. And so look, people call us paid
- 22:53pumpers. I would just like to point out
- 22:55the company doesn't even pay its executives.
- 22:57So they really don't have a paid pumper budget.
- 23:00They give us XL size T-shirts which don't fit me because I am
- 23:05a solid medium. So even the consideration in
- 23:08which they give their paid bumpers some schwag like I can't
- 23:11even wear it. So I would, you know, put that
- 23:13on the proxy, you know, give Kuka XLT shirt and he wants a
- 23:19medium and that's my bonus for 15,000 tweets.
- 23:25So that's a bum deal, but it's a better deal than a bell got
- 23:28because a bell got 0. And it's really useful to
- 23:32appreciate that. Again, we have an owner
- 23:34operator. He is, he finally got a stock
- 23:37award, which is I'm sure forced upon him.
- 23:40But then the other executives. And so a guy like Scott made
- 23:44$250,000 base. So sure, you know, better than
- 23:48working at McDonald's, but he's also, you know, senior managing
- 23:52director level at, you know, any, any global investment bank.
- 23:56Shanti Gupta, partner level guy at any big three accounting
- 24:01firm. In fact, that's what he was.
- 24:02Those guys make a couple 1,000,000 bucks a year.
- 24:05God only knows what Doctor Yao could make, like what his value
- 24:09at market is. It's probably a lot.
- 24:11And so these guys really make all of their compensation in
- 24:15stock. They are bullish and they're not
- 24:18just blowing out of all their stock when they get it.
- 24:20They're taking, you know, relatively modest prints to get
- 24:23some liquidity for their families to pay for stuff like
- 24:26schools trips, probably healthcare 'cause they're
- 24:30probably working their ass off and, you know, need to get their
- 24:32Pernovo exams. And so it's good to see this
- 24:35proxy. And just remember, a Bell is
- 24:38playing to win. And we have an owner operator.
- 24:40And for a lot of us, the fact that a Bell wasn't really
- 24:43leaking anything to himself and was only earning economics in
- 24:48the exact same way we were, you know, probably in order of
- 24:53importance, a Bell taking $0.00 in salary and being an owner
- 24:58operator and then #2 catsy existing.
- 25:01Those are probably the two most important things for my
- 25:03investment thesis. And so I recommend everyone to
- 25:06learn how to read a proxy because incentives Dr. outcomes.
- 25:12And Elon says that the most, and I truly believe it, incentives
- 25:17Dr. outcomes. And so a Bell's incentive is
- 25:21make the stock go up. So far that has been generally
- 25:26the outcome worth noting. So now let's get to stuff like
- 25:32building, you know, metal in orbit, which I guess some some
- 25:36of our learned people care about.
- 25:39Well, in order to get metal in orbit, you need people on Earth.
- 25:43And AST investors pointed out that the AST space mobile
- 25:48recruitment Dr. continues And so there's now more jobs
- 25:52outstanding on the website than there were previously.
- 25:58So there's over 200 company continues to grow.
- 26:02And we have to ask ourselves, you know, what are what are they
- 26:04delivering into? And we believe that that's a
- 26:06multiple shell company. The more I sit back and think
- 26:10about this, there's some analogs that are close to home for me.
- 26:15One of which is the rise of my personal hero, Ken Griffin.
- 26:21So some people might be taken aghast at how the person who is
- 26:25responsible for the short ladder attacks could and somehow be my
- 26:28hero. Well, Ken Griffin is an S class
- 26:32badass I don't know that I've ever met.
- 26:35And yes, I have met someone who is a more brilliant business
- 26:41tactician with an ability to hold and really exclude
- 26:48complacency from a business, to innovate and see opportunity and
- 26:52adjust with markets like this guy.
- 26:57But the real genius behind Ken was figuring out how to build a
- 27:01business and infrastructure a very efficiently.
- 27:05Doesn't really apply to Asts because what Ken did is
- 27:07basically build out world class infrastructure through pass
- 27:10through expense reporting that LP's in theory got the benefit
- 27:13of through returns, but never really got the ownership of what
- 27:16ultimately led to things like Citadel securities as well as
- 27:19like the entire high frequency trading business sign up.
- 27:23But what Ken did is he woke up one day and boom, he basically
- 27:27has Goldman Sachs as a guy without having taken outside
- 27:32money. He's raising bonds.
- 27:33But it's it's actually just astounding that you look when
- 27:37you look at the rise of Citadel and how they did it.
- 27:40And so now he has weapons grade infrastructure around the world.
- 27:44Pretty cool. What gets me so excited again,
- 27:47as a shadow board member, Iron Man, secretive industrialist
- 27:52trying to control the world through my investments reality.
- 27:57I just own the stock at a stupid brokerage account.
- 27:59But you know, it's kind of fun to to say this stuff.
- 28:02What I think about is, yeah, cool, we have like all these
- 28:05satellites, but what we also really have is this unbelievable
- 28:08infrastructure to build satellites.
- 28:11That's really neat. And what we've really seen in
- 28:14the world is this value of like, wait for it, manufacturing, you
- 28:20know, pretty wild that for the whole, you know, big chunk of my
- 28:25life, everyone was like, software eats the world,
- 28:27software eats the world. And people were really investing
- 28:30in electrons. And then, you know, you wake up
- 28:34one day and you realize, like the stuff you actually really
- 28:36need in this world still requires atoms.
- 28:40And so it's physical plant. And you look at what's important
- 28:44in the world right now. It's, you know, do you have a
- 28:45physical plant to go build a bunch of Tomahawk missiles?
- 28:47You know, do you have the shipyards go build a bunch of
- 28:49ships? Do you have the big battery
- 28:51manufacturers to build EVs, to make humanoid robotics, to build
- 28:57ships, to have data centers? It's actually like the atoms
- 29:02that have mattered. And I still think that ASTS,
- 29:06when people take a step back, they're going to go, holy crap,
- 29:09this company has global infrastructure to be one of the
- 29:11largest satellite manufacturers by tonnage in the world.
- 29:15And what really hit me was last week when I was watching this
- 29:17video from SpaceX, there's this 28 minute video Elon put out.
- 29:21It was so cool. And so I highly recommend people
- 29:24find this and watch it. It's about Starship because you
- 29:26just look at the physical plant that they've built, the rocket
- 29:29manufacturing facility, the test facilities, it's unbelievable.
- 29:34The the physical infrastructure they've built.
- 29:38I know it can be replicated because Blue Origin has done it,
- 29:40but a Blue Origin is, you know, it's like one of the top 10
- 29:42richest guys in the universe decided this is the thing he was
- 29:44going to focus on. So yeah, the, the barriers are
- 29:47pretty high. We'll see if Rocket Lab can do
- 29:49it, but there's very few companies that can do this.
- 29:51So if you're building up the infrastructure to manufacture
- 29:55rockets, test them, and, you know, really then do cool things
- 29:58with them, it's pretty scarce. Good.
- 30:00There's some real barriers there.
- 30:02What ASTS is doing is this vertically integrated sort of
- 30:06Manhattan Project for satellite manufacturing in a world that's
- 30:09now realized that the secular trend is space and satellites.
- 30:12And I go, you know, again, for my little would be, you know,
- 30:15Bruce Wayne mentality, like, that's cool.
- 30:19That's my little industrial empire.
- 30:21And I don't think that people really understand the ASTS
- 30:25thesis in that way. It's usually like, will the tech
- 30:27work? And they're thinking about the
- 30:29little Bluebirds popping out of the nest.
- 30:31But the nest itself is an unbelievable source of
- 30:36competitive advantage. They've done two things.
- 30:39They've designed the cutting edge technology, but then they
- 30:41had to design and build the cutting edge physical plant to
- 30:44manufacture it. All 2 very hard things.
- 30:47And that goes back to the winding moaning and groaning
- 30:50thing we just talked about a second ago.
- 30:52That when they miss expectations.
- 30:54Well, yeah, no shit, dude. They're they're building the
- 30:56house right now. It's hard and I don't think in
- 31:04the house is actually the wrong analog there.
- 31:07What's the right thing? I mean, they're literally
- 31:08building the factory while they tried to build the product.
- 31:12And these are two very, very hard things.
- 31:14It's not like Porsche retooling and being like, surprise,
- 31:18there's a 9/11 GT3 SC with a manual.
- 31:21We said we're never going to build AGT convertible, but now
- 31:23we have with a manual assholes who you know all about spider
- 31:27RSS and you know yeah sure, Stew Gart can just like retool and
- 31:31pop out a new $300,000 car no problem.
- 31:34But building the factory in Stuttgart was very hard.
- 31:38So the 9/11 pretty cool piece of intellectual property, but then
- 31:42the plant to build the 9/11's also pretty cool piece of
- 31:47technology. And ASES has bun both of those
- 31:49things. And so again, when you're
- 31:50missing guidance, you got to ask yourself, well, is it because
- 31:53I'm doing 2 extremely hard things which when complete, give
- 31:56me these unbelievable modes and unbelievable sources of value,
- 32:01or the missing guidance because of some competitive pressure
- 32:04like the blockbuster analog? Again, they are not the same.
- 32:08And you need to develop some cognitive skills in life to
- 32:13realize when two things are massively different that lead to
- 32:18massively different like life outcomes for yourself.
- 32:20So that's my, you know, inculcation of this point.
- 32:25So now let's get to the other things that are hard with
- 32:28satellite companies. So you got to have metal in
- 32:30orbit, but you also have to have stuff on the ground.
- 32:33You have to have ground stations.
- 32:35So we had seen, we didn't actually really tweet this
- 32:38because it seemed like the company hadn't really intended
- 32:42for this to be public. But now it's coming out.
- 32:44There had been something in the SES, which is a European
- 32:47satellite company in their annual report talking about
- 32:50their their deal with AST space mobile.
- 32:52Well, SES was buying Link and they're a European sort of
- 32:57satellite TV provider. Like what what are they doing
- 33:00with ASTS? That was really the question.
- 33:03And it came out in an expert call with SES about a
- 33:07partnership for ground stations, which has yet to be announced,
- 33:10but apparently it's a done deal. That's cool.
- 33:14And so we've actually now kind of closed the loop on this.
- 33:16We've seen it in the public filings.
- 33:18We were really all kind of very confused about what it could
- 33:20mean, but then it came out in an expert call and now it's in the
- 33:24public domain. I didn't do it, but you know,
- 33:28talking to it. And so, you know, now we know
- 33:31what they're doing and here's what they're doing.
- 33:33SES is providing AST space model with ground infrastructure,
- 33:35teleports, gateways, fiber backhaul, and the local
- 33:38regulatory landing rights needed to bring AST satellite signal
- 33:41down to Earth and connect them into terrestrial networks.
- 33:46ASTS owns the satellites and commercial relationships with
- 33:48the M and OS, but those satellites are useless about
- 33:52someone to land the data and you need the backhaul.
- 33:55And so in effect, SES appears to be selling a gateway as a
- 33:59service to ASTS itself, which will be passed through to the MN
- 34:02OS and that just allows everything to go faster.
- 34:05So cool development again, really kind of like a picks and
- 34:08shovels type of thing. Not something for anyone to, you
- 34:11know, wake up tomorrow and go, I need a or wake, you know, like I
- 34:13don't need to go like buy stock in the overnight market because
- 34:16of that revelation. But if you're a long term
- 34:18investor and you're seeing how the building blocks are being
- 34:21put together, that's another one.
- 34:24It's you know, it's good to know.
- 34:27And so now let's revisit the bear argument again.
- 34:31When people get really negative, the sort of fragility of human
- 34:36emotion never ceases to amaze me because I get sort of frantic as
- 34:39well. Like you get negative and then
- 34:41honestly, it just spirals. I've, I've again found it very
- 34:45useful to, to, you know, work with the space mob because in
- 34:49isolation, you can be a very lonely place.
- 34:51You know, the stock goes down and you don't really know why
- 34:53you don't really have anyone to talk to.
- 34:54And then you assume you're wrong, something you're missing,
- 34:57get in a bad place, sell at the bottom.
- 34:59That's really kind of what happens to most people.
- 35:05Space mob is sort of a self help group, for better or for worse.
- 35:08And what it does help you, though, is contextualize, you
- 35:11know, a lot of information and bounce it off a lot of other
- 35:14people who can help frame it and, you know, make it feel
- 35:18better when you're losing unimaginable amounts of money,
- 35:22which is certainly me. But you can really see the bear
- 35:25argument, which is just simply ASCs is not launching satellites
- 35:30fast enough. OK, well, you know, this guy Pat
- 35:35Cakes. I mean, Kevin Shannon was pretty
- 35:36funny. But, you know, Reddit is really
- 35:38a cesspool of human weakness. And that's really the bear
- 35:44argument. You can see it in Victoria write
- 35:46ups. You see it everywhere.
- 35:48Everyone just sort of falls on the sword on launch, you know,
- 35:51and they they spin it out of control and go, oh, my God,
- 35:54there's not going to be any launch and you're not launching
- 35:57fast enough. And they're really not thinking
- 35:59through, you know what we've talked about many times?
- 36:01So I'm trying to also watch this hockey game while I do this.
- 36:03There's a lot of multitasking. Zuccarella.
- 36:05Hell yeah. I'm a hockey fan for the past
- 36:10one week. So I really don't even didn't
- 36:12even know what a power play was until I Googled it.
- 36:14But what a what a great sport for the playoffs.
- 36:17Definitely not letting my kids play hockey, though.
- 36:19My only lesson from this is like, God, this is violent.
- 36:21I don't know. I can't like, why can't they
- 36:22make this a little more family friendly?
- 36:24But anyway, going back to business at hand launch is a
- 36:29really easy bear thesis to dismiss because if you're short
- 36:31the stock based on concern about launch, what happens when you
- 36:34wake up and they launch? It's like whoopsie Daisy.
- 36:37And So what happens if, you know, this week you wake up and
- 36:40realize, Oh no, they have like 4 successive SpaceX launches in a
- 36:46row for 3 Bluebirds each. Does that blow up your thesis?
- 36:51What, what happens if that's true?
- 36:54What happens if the FAA, you know, grants an expedited launch
- 36:58approval for New Glenn and they and they nail it?
- 37:01What happens if as TS actually has some undisclosed
- 37:05relationship with the NSSL, which is the government launch
- 37:10program? What if, what if, what if, if
- 37:12you have a bear thesis, you have to go through the permutations
- 37:14of how quickly that could flip on its head.
- 37:17And what happens? Do you get your your eyeballs
- 37:20ripped out on that? And it's, you know, useful thing
- 37:23to think of. And meanwhile the FCC is just
- 37:28gunning it in terms of making Leo happen.
- 37:32And so the FCC is paving the way for D to C.
- 37:40They wanted supercharged choices in the market.
- 37:42And what's really interesting is to see Brendan Carr talk about
- 37:45this. They see it as a big upgrade and
- 37:51competitive with fiber. And so, yeah, this this is
- 37:54somewhat related to space XS core offerings and things like
- 37:58that. But it's, it's just showing how
- 38:00quickly what was dismissed as a niche market is now being viewed
- 38:04as like one of the bona fide, you know, 4 horsemen for
- 38:07consumer connectivity choice. And the FCC is really leaning
- 38:11into it. They're, you know, letting them,
- 38:14these guys use more power. They're letting spectrum be
- 38:20repurposed, things like this. This is certainly helpful for
- 38:24SpaceX, but it's also very helpful for ASTS.
- 38:27Whatever is good for SpaceX generally means that we can, we
- 38:31could already do things well under the prior rules and we can
- 38:34do them better with new rules. And then you're going to have
- 38:38things like Legato, for example, where spectrum that was stranded
- 38:42is going to be repurposed and you know, effectively approved
- 38:45for this use. We believe that things like
- 38:48grain management will have their spectrum approved for this.
- 38:52SiriusXM might, and that's just more capacity that is available.
- 38:57And then that just is more demand for that metal in orbit.
- 39:00They can process and really make use of that spectrum.
- 39:03So it's very interesting. So then we get back into the
- 39:06whole competitive dynamic. There was this interesting study
- 39:09out of China of all places, so out of Tsinghua University.
- 39:15They took a look at how Starlink actually worked, and the
- 39:19punchline is that it's kind of crappy and doesn't work very
- 39:22well. And there's lots of drop calls.
- 39:24And they specifically tested things like WhatsApp, which is
- 39:27interesting and people don't really like it, but it's better
- 39:33than nothing. But it kind of contextualize,
- 39:35you know, why it is that the Starlink service isn't really
- 39:38having a lot of demand. That's because it's not very
- 39:40good. And so the mistake is investors
- 39:43go, aha, Starlink isn't having the demand, people don't really
- 39:47like it. So therefore ASTS is doomed.
- 39:52Well, I don't know, you know, can you think of some services
- 39:55where the initial thing wasn't very good and so you didn't buy
- 39:57it and then the killer app came out and everyone used it.
- 40:01Feel like the personal computer is an example.
- 40:04The cell phone is an example. Everything is an example.
- 40:08And so that's really where the bears are glomming now because
- 40:13they're getting what they think are their first aha moments that
- 40:15OK, supposing you can get regulatory approval, supposing
- 40:18you can build a satellite, supposing they work, no one's
- 40:22going to pay. Well, OK, you know, that is the
- 40:24debate and we'll find out about it.
- 40:27But one would point out that the Sterling system really sucks and
- 40:31it's not very useful. And so as a result, you can see
- 40:34why consumers don't get really addicted to it because it's high
- 40:36friction, doesn't work very consistently.
- 40:38And that's not how the American consumer, for example, works.
- 40:41It needs to be frictionless. People have really high
- 40:44expectations and they are demanding.
- 40:48And so that's why a Bell had first principles to have a
- 40:51service that will be that killer app.
- 40:54Then meanwhile, SpaceX is having these posts about direct to cow,
- 40:59you know, which again, we kind of made fun of before, but it's
- 41:01about this rancher using SpaceX connectivity for smart cattle
- 41:06callers, cattle callers, that removes the need for cell towers
- 41:12or on ranch infrastructure. Well, now there's a problem
- 41:16statement you probably haven't thought of.
- 41:17And this is a big Starlink thing.
- 41:20And so it just goes to show you, you know, how much demand there
- 41:24is. We could really quickly see, you
- 41:25know, how many head of cattle are there?
- 41:28How many? And you know, probably Australia
- 41:32out of cattle in the US, I'm going to guess like a million.
- 41:36I could be off by a lot. Whoa, OK, a lot, 86 million.
- 41:43And so that's a lot of cows who knew?
- 41:45I guess the whole thing about like, you know, methane
- 41:48emissions from cow farts is probably right.
- 41:51And so that's a, that's a lot of cows.
- 41:54Not every cow is obviously going to have a sterling collar, but
- 41:59you just kind of can think about that.
- 42:00Well, that could end up probably, you know, having a lot
- 42:03of applications in terms of herd management and things like that.
- 42:05Who knows, one of probably 4000 use cases for this technology.
- 42:11And so as it rolls out, let's see what happens.
- 42:14I'm taking the bet the market's going to be really big.
- 42:17And then the M and OS themselves, I believe are going
- 42:21to be the next part of the AI trade.
- 42:23And so Verizon, for example, came out in their earnings call,
- 42:26said it's in deep talks with hyperscalers, cloud providers
- 42:29and large enterprises to use its fiber and 5G assets for AI
- 42:32infrastructure. They say a revenue opportunity
- 42:35could they could be worth multi billions of dollars.
- 42:37The company said more details. We could come in three to six
- 42:40months. I've always thought of Asts as
- 42:42an AI infrastructure play because all of the compute in
- 42:46the world don't mean a thing if you can't communicate to it.
- 42:51Signals have to go back and forth to process information.
- 42:54And so sure, maybe some AI can be on the edge.
- 42:57I don't know. Makes sense that there's going
- 42:59to have to be connectivity. Makes sense.
- 43:02You're going to want to have this always on the demand for
- 43:06things that are then everywhere are going to probably have more
- 43:09exposure to gaps in connectivity issues.
- 43:13And this is my bet that this will be right.
- 43:16And so goes to the IoT observations and really the AI
- 43:22infrastructure observations that I think could be quite
- 43:24meaningful. Meanwhile, Amazon is coming to
- 43:27the direct polar opposite of user demand.
- 43:30People are convict, addicted to convenience.
- 43:33And so Andy Jassi, who is the president of Amazon, said the
- 43:39last thing I'll say about it is, you know, your question about
- 43:42Global Star. Increasingly, what we're finding
- 43:44with our customers and enterprising governments is that
- 43:46they don't like to have any periods where they don't have
- 43:49connectivity. It upsets whatever customer
- 43:51experience they're going through.
- 43:53Even in metropolitan areas, we all hit certain parts of the
- 43:56highway or certain roads where you can't get connectivity or
- 43:59you're hiking or skiing. We see very large demand for
- 44:02consumers to have direct to device.
- 44:04That was really the impetus for our acquisition of Globalstar.
- 44:07They have unusual and scarce global spectrum that's required
- 44:10to provide direct to device. So that's what Amazon's view is,
- 44:14you know, what do they know about anything, right?
- 44:16And then more broadly, just space is the secular trend.
- 44:20Government defense is oriented toward that, and it's just
- 44:26really the priority of US defense spending.
- 44:29So that's a good place to be in terms of where money is going to
- 44:31flow. And then the procurement
- 44:34methodology has also changed. So as we've talked about many,
- 44:37many times, they're going to be leveraging the commercial
- 44:42capacity for government use because it drives down costs and
- 44:48makes the systems much more resilient and robust.
- 44:51And so that goes right to the fairway of ASTS going back to
- 44:55what I started originally around of how much value there is in
- 44:59the satellite production capacity we're building because
- 45:02we are going to be able to make, you know, I don't know the exact
- 45:06stat, I looked it up the other day, but I think we'll have one
- 45:09of the top three satellite production capacity ratings of
- 45:15any anything. And that's that's going to have
- 45:18value as new use cases and new needs emerge because our
- 45:21satellites are quite flexible at the end of the day, ASTS has
- 45:24invented a way to create the most power in orbit.
- 45:27The first way they're monetizing that power is through RF
- 45:31signals. Other ways you can monetize that
- 45:33power is AI compute actually beaming energy down.
- 45:38There's all sorts of things, but fundamentally the platform is
- 45:42around power generation and really the duty cycle of that
- 45:46power. Power generation.
- 45:47That was the critical solve they did.
- 45:50Once you have that much power in orbit, hooking up elements to
- 45:54create telecommunication gear is the very obvious first way in
- 45:58which you monetize that power in orbit.
- 46:00Just like Iceland probably thought of all sorts of things
- 46:03of what to do with all their power and they realize that the
- 46:06highest value at use way to export electricity when you have
- 46:09an island in the middle of the ocean is aluminum smelting.
- 46:14But their critical observation is we have cheap power.
- 46:17And then they got into the aluminum business.
- 46:19So useful to also think about that.
- 46:23Golden Dome is in motion. We continue to have some big
- 46:27awards coming out. According to General Mike
- 46:31Gillen, Golden Dome is real. It is no longer theoretical.
- 46:34We are underway. We are shovel ready and we're
- 46:36building it right now. It is reality in motion.
- 46:40Let's get some contracts, bro. I can't think of anything that
- 46:43can change the sentiment more quickly than a couple big dog
- 46:46contracts for Golden Dome. And so they're saying it's on
- 46:49schedule, on budget, completed initial classified architecture
- 46:52design, awarded contracts, site analysis and visits are
- 46:55underway. All right, giddy up.
- 46:57I hope we get some big contracts out of there.
- 46:59I have some real expectations that we will.
- 47:02But you know, kooks can be kooks.
- 47:06And the Department of War has been investing a lot of money.
- 47:09And so we saw some really cool things this week about I believe
- 47:12it's $140 million for a Department of War contract as
- 47:16part of a radar system. We'll see if that goes through
- 47:21US. I hope it does.
- 47:22And then we have gotten approval for using spectrum over the
- 47:26ocean, which again has some pretty obvious use cases for the
- 47:29military. So we shall see.
- 47:32A lot of us have some pretty high expectations of some near
- 47:35term military awards. Maybe we'll get something on the
- 47:37earnings call, but that's really conjecture on my part, not
- 47:41something I would, you know, really position around.
- 47:44But then we also go back to the competitive landscape.
- 47:47A nice article was out, a SpaceX phone question mark.
- 47:51Not if AT&T gets its way. SpaceX won't be an MVNO if AT&T
- 47:56has anything to do with it, according to AT&T.
- 47:58John Stankey. Whoa, shots fired.
- 48:01What, like common sense has entered the room.
- 48:04And so, yeah, no shit. Like, AT&T is not going to say,
- 48:08hey, Wolf, would you like to sleep next to our nice, cozy,
- 48:11warm sheep? Just don't eat them.
- 48:15They're not that dumb. And so the M and OS are very
- 48:19clearly on guard about SpaceX. They know that they are an
- 48:23enemy. Whether they kind of wonder
- 48:26whether Asts might one day, you know, grow into something that
- 48:31is too big to control is a totally different issue.
- 48:34But ASTS isn't openly pursuing warfare against the M and OS
- 48:38like they are being carrier neutral.
- 48:41SpaceX is clearly going to do a phone that they need to do this
- 48:46to justify, you know, $2 trillion valuation.
- 48:49And the M and OS are, you know, they control the terrestrial
- 48:52spectrum, which creates a very interesting dynamic because it
- 48:55just brings into the issue of SpaceX just doesn't have enough
- 48:59spectrum to do anything that ambitious.
- 49:03Amazon does not have enough spectrum to do anything
- 49:07ambitious. ASTS does in partnership with
- 49:11the MNO. So it's actually a very nice
- 49:14check and balance, which I'm sure the MN OS also appreciate.
- 49:19And then Sam Altman in the room. OK, you know, hey, buddy, how
- 49:22you doing? You know, weirdo.
- 49:24And you know, it turns out Sam still weird.
- 49:27But Open AI is reportedly building a phone designed to
- 49:31replace the iPhone. Well, I can't wait to see that.
- 49:34But it just goes to show you AI connectivity, hardware, devices,
- 49:42they're all going to rely on spectrum.
- 49:45No one has figured out a replacement of spectrum.
- 49:48Now, wouldn't that be a big idea?
- 49:49But I don't know how that would work, and I don't think it will
- 49:52work. And so spectrum is the critical
- 49:54path item of humanity and it's about to intersect with some
- 50:02really big companies that have really big ambitions.
- 50:05And ASCs is in the middle of that.
- 50:10Think it's a pretty good place to be.
- 50:12So that's what I remind myself with when I'm crashing out and
- 50:16super sad and posting, you know, somber memes on Axe for no
- 50:22reason. Then I remind myself, put on my
- 50:25Iron Man helmet in big boy pants and realize, oh, Rome wasn't
- 50:31built in a day. Stocks are volatile and this
- 50:33company's building out massively strategic infrastructure that
- 50:36intersects with the world's largest and most dynamic growing
- 50:38markets. It's going to be OK.
- 50:41And you know, then I focus on other problems like why did I
- 50:45gain 2 lbs this week? You know, like this is what you
- 50:47got to do to stay sane. And then we have to ask
- 50:49yourself, well, if I'm focused on like, why am I not making
- 50:52progress on my 6 pack? And I realize like, oh, perhaps
- 50:54it's because I eat like 3 lbs of sugar coated nuts.
- 50:58Then I asked myself, well what is SpaceX focused on?
- 51:01Well again, incentives. Dr. outcomes as per Elon Musk
- 51:07himself. So what is Elon's incentive?
- 51:12200 million super voting chairs? I actually don't know the cap
- 51:15table of SpaceX. I don't know if that equates to,
- 51:18but I am sure it is a lot of money and he gets that if SpaceX
- 51:23hits a $7.5 trillion valuation and establishes a permanent Mars
- 51:28colony with at least 1,000,000 people.
- 51:30So it sounds like that's a joint double trigger condition, which
- 51:35means that he's going to be focused on deporting a million
- 51:39people to Mars. Like it's kind of interesting
- 51:41when you think about like, so how does he intend to do this?
- 51:43I don't think I am going to live on a Mars colony.
- 51:46And so is this like in collaboration with ICE or like
- 51:49who are the Martians going to be?
- 51:51It is a very interesting question.
- 51:55Is there a surfable point break on Mars?
- 51:58Would like to know. And so he's got to figure out
- 52:01how to convince a million people to go to Mars and then actually
- 52:04figure out how to get a million people to Mars while doing that
- 52:09in a creative way. Because I don't know the
- 52:11business model of Mars. Are these people paying him all
- 52:16their money? And that's going to be
- 52:17considered like ARR? Who knows?
- 52:22And so the SpaceX incentives are beyond my comprehension.
- 52:28But then the other thing that's interesting is he gets an
- 52:30additional 60 million shares if SpaceX again, hits certain
- 52:34valuation goals and operates data centers in space to living
- 52:37100 terawatts of compute. Well, I don't really see
- 52:42anything here talking about D to C or a phone.
- 52:47So incentives, Dr. outcomes. What is King Elon going to be
- 52:51having his team do? Sounds like it's going to be
- 52:54abducting people and hiding them on Mars while somehow getting
- 53:00paid to do it in a value of creative way.
- 53:03Count me as very curious to see how this plays out.
- 53:08Is his focus going to be on D to CI?
- 53:11Think again. It's going to be AI data
- 53:13centers. That's where the cursor
- 53:14acquisition comes into play. You can see he's basically like,
- 53:17damn it, I have a lot of compute.
- 53:19You know, people asking Grok to like change women's outfits is
- 53:23probably not a scalable business model.
- 53:26I need to do something else. So you bought cursor smart front
- 53:30end. Lot of demand for compute back
- 53:33ended into Grok. OK, I'm starting to see
- 53:35something makes sense here. Leverage my SpaceX
- 53:38infrastructure for AI data centers.
- 53:40OK, that makes sense to me. The Mars thing, I don't know.
- 53:43I mean, cool, hope you were hope.
- 53:45I hope it works, but I don't know the business model, but
- 53:49where you know, people can only do so many things, like where is
- 53:52the focus going to come on the DDC segment?
- 53:56We'll find out. But incentives, Dr. outcomes and
- 54:00we don't see that incentive actually being set.
- 54:04We actually don't even see any incentives being set for
- 54:07Starlink at all. And interestingly so then
- 54:10Starlink seems to be hitting a Tam limit.
- 54:13They're cutting price. Well, it's not the end of the
- 54:16world, but it means you've exhausted the premium tier of
- 54:19users who will pay the current price.
- 54:23And so you expand your Tam by dropping price.
- 54:25That's fine. The problem is when you have to
- 54:27drop your price for everyone. Sort of like the reverse way in
- 54:30which a power grid works where the marginal and unit of power
- 54:34that's dispatched sets the price for the entire curve.
- 54:37You know, Elon can discriminate by market and things like that
- 54:40and by plans. So you can try to get different
- 54:42people to pay different prices. That's fair game.
- 54:45And but he's got to figure out a way to expand the market.
- 54:49At the same time, Zuck also wants to go to space.
- 54:52And so we have a article coming out and see what we have.
- 54:55Meta is also looking to power AI data centers with solar energy
- 54:59collected in space, taking a novel approach to meeting its
- 55:02insatiable demand for electricity.
- 55:05So we've got Elon with his key incentive being determined by AI
- 55:09data centers in space. We have Mark Zuckerberg now
- 55:13saying it, We have Google saying it, and we have Amazon saying
- 55:16it. And yet the bears are like, this
- 55:20won't work. But the four or five most
- 55:23prominent companies with the wherewithal to actually
- 55:25understand this are all focused on it.
- 55:28Good to know. Because again, ASDS has an
- 55:31advantage with the most power on orbit makes the company very
- 55:36strategic, which again goes to then the infrastructure it's
- 55:39building to produce all these satellites at scale.
- 55:41Yeah, I get it, a little bit delayed, but once it's going,
- 55:45what a glorious moment. That will be really neat.
- 55:49So now we have a couple of technical issues and we're
- 55:51almost up on the hour or two, always kind of turns out to be
- 55:54an hour, even though I would happily just go for whatever
- 55:57period of time is required. But we have the Russell
- 56:00rebalancing. So, you know, saw the usual
- 56:03suspects sharing this information and Pam Man and
- 56:07Cassie and, you know, they have something here.
- 56:11So Russell Reconstitution provides an interesting
- 56:16technical event. And so I haven't done the math
- 56:19myself, but it looks like, you know, in these AIS are pretty
- 56:25good at those. So it looks like there might be
- 56:2710 million shares of demand into the end of June.
- 56:31What's interesting about that is we've had that before.
- 56:33That happened last year and the stock was really ripping.
- 56:36But then Scott needed money. And so Scott Deliski struck
- 56:39again, you know, and frankly, like good for him.
- 56:42And that took all the wind out of the stock.
- 56:44But the stock was really pumping on the back of some good
- 56:48fundamentals Block 1. And then you had this Russell
- 56:52rebalance that just kind of added some some gas to the fire
- 56:56and that looks like it's set up to happen again.
- 56:59And so the stock is, you know, crushed on the 200 day moving
- 57:02average, Really terrible sentiment.
- 57:06We just had a failed satellite. So people, you know, you know,
- 57:09bad fundamental event, right as we're about to have a big
- 57:13technical rebalance. My belief we're going to get
- 57:16what we want on the bat shipments.
- 57:20It does seem like the stock is particularly coiled for
- 57:23something great. And unlike previous times, it
- 57:27does not look like ASTS is in the market to go raise money on
- 57:30the back of any strength. They just did that other
- 57:32convert. Never say never, but it sure
- 57:34looks like they really might be done with that.
- 57:38Which then coincides to three Tel Infinity, which is, you
- 57:42know, my new little moniker for what we're about to have in
- 57:45terms of shipments. Could finally be the time where
- 57:50we sort of have slingshotted around orbit ready to go to the
- 57:53moon. And so that perfect confluence
- 57:56of events, we've seen it before on what happens when we have
- 58:00these sort of traffic jams. And as Ampan man points out, we
- 58:04have almost 64,000,000 shares short, all time high.
- 58:09The convert guys have been covering because they're on a
- 58:12lower delta. So you've had all time high
- 58:14shorting, offsetting the mechanical covering by the
- 58:20convert guys. So a lot of people are piling in
- 58:24and it's going to be, you know, 12 noon at the OK Corral pretty
- 58:27soon. I'm always a little worried.
- 58:28I'm like, where are the shorts now?
- 58:29But historically the shorts really just pile on, on negative
- 58:33momentum. And they, you know, we kind of
- 58:35see what they're thinking because these expert calls when
- 58:38they just have these expert calls, which you're paying like
- 58:401200 bucks for. And it's basically just like, so
- 58:43can they launch? Will they launch?
- 58:44Will SpaceX launch them? Why?
- 58:46Why would SpaceX launch them? There's no launch.
- 58:48Oh my God, launch launch, launch, launch, launch, launch,
- 58:50launch, launch. Then you, you kind of realize
- 58:52like, OK, they really don't have a good thesis here.
- 58:55It's just literally concerns about launch and they convince
- 58:59their PM they go yo bro, I did some like work here.
- 59:03Elon has launchers and Elon has satellites.
- 59:09So Elon won't launch other people's satellites because Elon
- 59:14has his own satellites. Bruh.
- 59:16And then Bezos, he owns a book company and the book company is
- 59:23not launching satellites, brah. And so his launchers, wait for
- 59:28it, his launchers are going to launch the book company
- 59:31satellites, brah. So there's going to be no
- 59:32launchers. And ASD has a satellite company
- 59:35only, brah. And he has launched contracts
- 59:38with launchers who have their own satellites, brah.
- 59:39And so they're not going to honor the contracts and they're
- 59:41not going to have any launch. She's short it and they have,
- 59:48and we're about to find out if we're going to blast their balls
- 59:51off. And I hope that we do.
- 59:53Because at some level, as I said earlier, I'm a wing nut and I
- 59:58get real psychic joy from watching shorts get their heads
- 1:00:04blown off so that I can make funny X posts about various
- 1:00:09losers wearing Patagonia vests having open to work profiles on
- 1:00:12LinkedIn. That is what I stand for.
- 1:00:17Some shit posting with my boy Corey making fun of people
- 1:00:21wearing Patagonia vests with LinkedIn open to work profiles
- 1:00:25and so I hope they cover at 150 and we will all be able to say
- 1:00:30reformed Trader was right about everything with his magical
- 1:00:32charts with unicorns and triangles and I think he's going
- 1:00:37to be right and it's going to be awesome.
- 1:00:40So with that, I missed what appeared to be a pretty cool
- 1:00:43hockey game, but I'll get over it.
- 1:00:46And there is some stuff that came out over the weekend with
- 1:00:49some cool DD people were publishing.
- 1:00:51So I'll I'll get to that and I'll update the DD doc too.
- 1:00:54And I hope everyone has a wonderful weekend and thank you
- 1:00:56very, very much for joining. And just remember when I'm like
- 1:01:02crazy posting scary stuff, it's like I'm actually just like
- 1:01:04laughing. So just also don't freak out.
- 1:01:08Actually just ignore me. That's really the best thing is
- 1:01:10if it's not actually due diligence that I always present.
- 1:01:13That's serious. Literally ignore everything else
- 1:01:16I post and you will live a happy, fruitful, successful
- 1:01:18life. Have a great night, bye.
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