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- 0:04Speaker 1: A 10-year-old boy was cleaning coins at the kitchen table
- 0:07Speaker 1: with his mother when the front door opened. He dropped
- 0:11Speaker 1: under the table. He ran. He was the only one
- 0:15Speaker 1: who made it out. That detail, a child counting quarters,
- 0:20Speaker 1: while his family was still alive, is the one that
- 0:23Speaker 1: stayed with me long after I finished reading every page
- 0:26Speaker 1: of this case. What happened inside that farmhouse in rural
- 0:30Speaker 1: Kansas on November 28th 2009 took less than 10 minutes.
- 0:36Speaker 1: It killed three people, instantly, and wounded a fourth, who
- 0:41Speaker 1: held on for three more days. The man responsible walked
- 0:44Speaker 1: away through a frozen field, slept in a drainage ditch,
- 0:48Speaker 1: and surrendered the next morning holding a knife, a pistol,
- 0:52Speaker 1: and hundreds of dollars in cash. He was the father.
- 0:55Speaker 1: He was the husband. He had been the one who
- 0:58Speaker 1: planned everything. This is the story of the Seekert family.
- 1:02Speaker 1: And of what a man will do and control is
- 1:04Speaker 1: the only thing he has ever understood. There is something
- 1:08Speaker 1: in this case that resists easy summary. Every time I
- 1:12Speaker 1: thought I had a clean line through it, another detail
- 1:16Speaker 1: pulled the ground out from under it. On the morning
- 1:19Speaker 1: of November 29th, 2009, a man was found walking in
- 1:24Speaker 1: a roadside ditch in rural Kansas. He was disheveled. disoriented
- 1:30Speaker 1: by appearances, and carrying a MAC-90 rifle in a long
- 1:34Speaker 1: white box inside the truck parked 800 meters away. When
- 1:39Speaker 1: deputies approached him, he didn't run. He said he was
- 1:42Speaker 1: the man they were looking for. His name was James Seckert.
- 1:47Speaker 1: He was 46 years old, and the night before, inside
- 1:52Speaker 1: a farmhouse less than a mile from that ditch, Three
- 1:55Speaker 1: members of his family were dead, and one was dying.
- 1:59Speaker 1: The farmhouse belonged to Dorothy Wright, 89 years old, the
- 2:04Speaker 1: great-grandmother on the maternal side. It sat outside a Kansas
- 2:08Speaker 1: town with fewer than 1,000 residents, flat land in every direction,
- 2:14Speaker 1: the kind of place where you can see a vehicle
- 2:16Speaker 1: coming from half a mile away. and still not know
- 2:19Speaker 1: why it arrived. Dorothy had lived there long enough that
- 2:23Speaker 1: the house carried the specific weight of accumulated family time.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Photographs layered over photographs, furniture that no one moved because
- 2:33Speaker 1: it had always been there. Karen Seacat had driven there
- 2:36Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving with her three children. Karen was a fitness
- 2:41Speaker 1: instructor and a health sciences student at the University of Missouri.
- 2:46Speaker 1: She was building a version of her life that didn't
- 2:48Speaker 1: include James anymore, and she was two states away from
- 2:52Speaker 1: the town where she'd last lived with him. The farmhouse
- 2:55Speaker 1: was safe. It was family. It was Thanksgiving. Emily was 18,
- 3:00Speaker 1: and in her first year of pharmacy school, she played
- 3:03Speaker 1: drums in a local band and sang. Loren was 16,
- 3:07Speaker 1: the bass player in the same band, a junior in
- 3:11Speaker 1: high school. Shan was 10. He was the youngest. He
- 3:14Speaker 1: had been cleaning coins with his mother at the kitchen
- 3:18Speaker 1: table when the evening changed. Here is what the evidence reconstructed.
- 3:23Speaker 1: James Seacat drove to that farmhouse in a red pickup truck.
- 3:27Speaker 1: Neighbors named Michelle and Trevor Gibson, living a block and
- 3:31Speaker 1: a half to the west, reported seeing the truck and
- 3:34Speaker 1: a man carrying a large object toward the house. James entered.
- 3:38Speaker 1: He fired at Karen in the kitchen first. Shan dropped, crawled.
- 3:43Speaker 1: and went out the back door. He watched his father pass.
- 3:46Speaker 1: He pulled the front door, shut behind him, heard one
- 3:50Speaker 1: or two more shots, and ran to the neighbor's house barefoot. Inside,
- 3:56Speaker 1: Emily was found behind the sofa. Loren was on the
- 4:00Speaker 1: second floor. Before she lost consciousness, she told the first
- 4:04Speaker 1: deputy on scene, Nathan Perling, that her father was the
- 4:08Speaker 1: one who had shot her, Dorothy, who had been in
- 4:12Speaker 1: the house was struck once and survived long enough to
- 4:15Speaker 1: be transported to a hospital in Topeka. During that transport,
- 4:20Speaker 1: she identified James to the emergency medical technician by name.
- 4:26Speaker 1: Four people shot. One child who ran fast enough. James
- 4:31Speaker 1: had purchased the MAC-90 rifle in Texas, caliber 7.62. It
- 4:37Speaker 1: was chambered for the kind of round that doesn't leave
- 4:40Speaker 1: much ambiguity about intent. He had driven across state lines
- 4:45Speaker 1: with it, with a loaded magazine, with gloves, and a flashlight,
- 4:50Speaker 1: and a hunting bag. He had anxiety medication in his
- 4:54Speaker 1: pack that, according to the defense, he had not taken.
- 4:59Speaker 1: None of that explains... what led to a family gathered
- 5:02Speaker 1: for a holiday meal becoming four shooting victims before six
- 5:07Speaker 1: in the evening. For that, you have to go back
- 5:10Speaker 1: further to a marriage that had been fracturing for years,
- 5:14Speaker 1: to a man who experienced the end of his control
- 5:17Speaker 1: as something he could not survive. What James Seacott did
- 5:21Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving did not come from nowhere, and the path
- 5:25Speaker 1: that brought him to that farmhouse door is in some
- 5:28Speaker 1: ways more disturbing than the night itself. The marriage had
- 5:32Speaker 1: been fracturing for years before Karen ever asked for a divorce.
- 5:37Speaker 1: What looked like a stable household from the outside, the
- 5:40Speaker 1: engineer's salary, the suburban address, the three children in school,
- 5:44Speaker 1: was built on a system of control so precise it
- 5:47Speaker 1: had its own schedule. Karen's sister Lynn was the first
- 5:51Speaker 1: to understand the shape of it. James assigned times for sex.
- 5:56Speaker 1: He assigned times for sleep. He assigned times for sleep.
- 6:01Speaker 1: Every purchase required a receipt, submitted for review. Lynn testified
- 6:06Speaker 1: later that Karen had been living inside a set of
- 6:09Speaker 1: rules she hadn't agreed to. Rules that tightened whenever she
- 6:13Speaker 1: moved toward. Something that was hers alone. The gym was
- 6:17Speaker 1: hers alone. Karen started going after the family moved to
- 6:21Speaker 1: Wichita in 1919-1990. And somewhere in those hours of her
- 6:27Speaker 1: own choosing, she met Sonia, a fitness instructor. The friendship
- 6:32Speaker 1: became something more. James noticed his response was not to
- 6:36Speaker 1: address the marriage. It was to relocate the family to Columbia,
- 6:41Speaker 1: Missouri in June of 2008, putting distance between Karen and
- 6:45Speaker 1: the one place she felt free. The relationship continued anyway.
- 6:50Speaker 1: Distance didn't work. Nothing James tried worked. Because the problem,
- 6:55Speaker 1: from Karen's perspective, was James. Three months after Karen filed
- 7:00Speaker 1: for divorce, James was arrested for domestic assault. March of 2009,
- 7:06Speaker 1: Karen reported injuries on her arms. James told investigators he
- 7:11Speaker 1: had only tried to hug her. The charge was third-degree
- 7:15Speaker 1: domestic battery, and it was the only criminal record he
- 7:19Speaker 1: had ever accumulated in 46 years. The courts processed it.
- 7:24Speaker 1: Life continued, but by September, James had lost his director
- 7:29Speaker 1: position at the multinational firm. He owed more than $ 3, 000
- 7:35Speaker 1: in child support. He moved back into his parents' house.
- 7:38Speaker 1: The structure he had built, the title, The Income, The Authority,
- 7:43Speaker 1: was gone. Karen took the children to Dorothy Wright's farmhouse
- 7:47Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving, a grandmother's farm in a Kansas town of
- 7:51Speaker 1: fewer than 1,000 people. There was no reason to believe
- 7:55Speaker 1: the distance mattered anymore. James had no job to return to.
- 8:00Speaker 1: He had a court date and a debt and a
- 8:03Speaker 1: room in his parents' home. The rational reading of that
- 8:07Speaker 1: moment was that the worst was over. The rational reading
- 8:10Speaker 1: was wrong. Forensic pathologist Eric Michel testified that each of
- 8:16Speaker 1: the three women shot inside the farmhouse received two bullets.
- 8:21Speaker 1: Dorothy Wright received one. Every shot was lethal. The grouping
- 8:26Speaker 1: was not the work of panic or confusion. It was methodical.
- 8:30Speaker 1: James had driven from Missouri to Kansas, entered through the kitchen,
- 8:35Speaker 1: and moved through the house room by room. Karen died
- 8:38Speaker 1: in the kitchen. Emily, 18 years old, her first semester
- 8:43Speaker 1: of pharmacy school behind her, was found behind the sofa
- 8:47Speaker 1: in the living room, as though she had tried to
- 8:50Speaker 1: make herself small enough to disappear. Lorraine, Sixteen was on
- 8:55Speaker 1: the second floor. Deputy Nathan Perling arrived to find Loren
- 8:59Speaker 1: still alive. She told him who had done it. She
- 9:03Speaker 1: named her father. Then she died. The defense would later
- 9:07Speaker 1: argue that the blood on the staircase could have come
- 9:10Speaker 1: from a previous visit. Investigators from the Kansas Bureau of
- 9:14Speaker 1: Investigation acknowledged it was technically possible. They also noted that
- 9:19Speaker 1: James carried anxiety medication in his pack. The night he
- 9:24Speaker 1: was arrested, the pills were untouched. His own defense team
- 9:28Speaker 1: psychiatric expert concluded James was mentally competent at the time
- 9:33Speaker 1: of the crime. Every path toward a softened explanation collapsed
- 9:38Speaker 1: under its own weight. Sean was 10 years old. He
- 9:41Speaker 1: had been sitting at the kitchen table with his mother,
- 9:44Speaker 1: cleaning coins. When his father walked through the door, he
- 9:48Speaker 1: described it later. Two years afterward, via video link at
- 9:52Speaker 1: age 12, in a courtroom, he never had to enter
- 9:56Speaker 1: in person. James came in and started shooting. Shan dropped
- 10:01Speaker 1: to the floor. He crawled to the back door, pushed
- 10:04Speaker 1: through it, ran. He heard one or two more shots
- 10:08Speaker 1: as he moved across the dark yard. He did not
- 10:11Speaker 1: look back. He ran to the neighbor's house and told
- 10:14Speaker 1: them what had happened. That is the detail that does
- 10:17Speaker 1: not leave Not the weapon, not the planning, not the planning,
- 10:21Speaker 1: not the eight-hour search that followed. It is the coins.
- 10:26Speaker 1: A ten-year-old boy and his mother, cleaning coins together on
- 10:30Speaker 1: a holiday evening. And then the door opened. The ordinary
- 10:34Speaker 1: and the catastrophic exist in the same second, and there
- 10:37Speaker 1: is no transition between them. Shan got out. His mother
- 10:41Speaker 1: did not. His sisters did not. Dorothy Wright, 89 years old,
- 10:47Speaker 1: survived the night but died three days later in a
- 10:50Speaker 1: Topeka hospital. And during the ambulance transport, she told the
- 10:55Speaker 1: emergency medical technician exactly what happened. headshot her. Two dying declarations,
- 11:01Speaker 1: from Lauren and from Dorothy, given in the minutes and
- 11:04Speaker 1: hours before each of them was gone, both naming the
- 11:07Speaker 1: same man. The MAC90 rifle, caliber 7.62, was in a
- 11:14Speaker 1: long white box in James' truck. The truck was parked
- 11:18Speaker 1: approximately 800 meters from the ditch, where James was found
- 11:23Speaker 1: the next morning. He had gloves. He had a hunting bag.
- 11:27Speaker 1: He had a flashlight. He had hundreds of dollars in cash.
- 11:31Speaker 1: The preparation was not the preparation of someone who had
- 11:34Speaker 1: lost control of himself. It was the preparation of someone
- 11:37Speaker 1: who had made a decision and pecked for it. And
- 11:40Speaker 1: yet when Deputy Perling and the search teams found him
- 11:44Speaker 1: at 7 in the morning, walking in a ditch, confused
- 11:48Speaker 1: and disheveled, James Seacott said he was the man they
- 11:52Speaker 1: were looking for. He handed over the knife and the pistol.
- 11:57Speaker 1: He did not run. He did not resist. He surrendered
- 12:01Speaker 1: with the same deliberateness with which the evidence suggested he
- 12:06Speaker 1: had done everything else. The defense argued diminished capacity. The
- 12:11Speaker 1: prosecution argued the opposite. At every item in that pack.
- 12:16Speaker 1: At every item in that pack. Every mile of that drive,
- 12:20Speaker 1: every bullet placed into the MAC901. was the action of
- 12:25Speaker 1: a man who knew exactly what he was doing and
- 12:28Speaker 1: had chosen to do it. The jury deliberated for two hours.
- 12:32Speaker 1: There is a version of this case that the defense
- 12:34Speaker 1: tried to build. and it deserves to be examined before
- 12:38Speaker 1: it is set aside. James Seacat had lost everything within
- 12:41Speaker 1: the span of 18 months. The career, the marriage, the household,
- 12:46Speaker 1: the daily proximity to his children, all of it gone
- 12:49Speaker 1: before he turned 47. His attorneys argued that the abolition
- 12:54Speaker 1: of the insanity defense in Kansas in 1995 had denied
- 12:59Speaker 1: him a meaningful legal protection that a man in the
- 13:02Speaker 1: grip of mental collapse should have access to a defense
- 13:06Speaker 1: that acknowledged that collapse. The Kansas Supreme Court disagreed in 2018.
- 13:12Speaker 1: The United States Supreme Court agreed with Kansas in 2020,
- 13:17Speaker 1: ruling that states are constitutionally permitted to eliminate the insanity defense.
- 13:22Speaker 1: James' argument reached the highest court in the country and
- 13:26Speaker 1: was turned back. What makes this harder to resolve is
- 13:29Speaker 1: not the legal questions. The legal question has been answered
- 13:33Speaker 1: at every level. What remains unresolved is the architecture of
- 13:37Speaker 1: the architecture of the act itself. Because planning and grief
- 13:41Speaker 1: are not mutually exclusive. A man can be genuinely destroyed
- 13:45Speaker 1: by loss and still pack a rifle in a long
- 13:49Speaker 1: white box. A man can be genuinely broken and still
- 13:53Speaker 1: drive across state lines, still load a weapon Still moved
- 13:57Speaker 1: through a house room by room, the defense asked the
- 13:59Speaker 1: jury to hold both things at once. The jury declined,
- 14:04Speaker 1: and the evidence gave them clear reason to decline. That
- 14:07Speaker 1: something in the picture still resists. Easy. James installed spyware
- 14:13Speaker 1: on the family computer during the separation, not in a
- 14:17Speaker 1: single impulsive moment, but as a sustained effort to monitor
- 14:21Speaker 1: a woman who had asked for distance. He proposed a
- 14:25Speaker 1: three-way arrangement when he first realized the nature of Karen's
- 14:28Speaker 1: relationship with Sonja. When that was rejected, he relocated the
- 14:33Speaker 1: family across state lines. When the divorce proceeded anyway, he
- 14:38Speaker 1: accumulated debt and and lost his job and still showed
- 14:42Speaker 1: up at a farmhouse in a Kansas town of fewer
- 14:46Speaker 1: than 1,000 people with a weapon he had purchased in Texas.
- 14:50Speaker 1: At what point does obsession become something that the word
- 14:54Speaker 1: obsession no longer adequately describes? In January of 2023, attorney
- 14:59Speaker 1: Julia Schur filed a 27-page appeal 14 grounds for overturning
- 15:07Speaker 1: the conviction, 12 of them centered on ineffective legal representation
- 15:12Speaker 1: at trial. As of October of that year, the outcome
- 15:15Speaker 1: of that appeal was unknown. James Seacat remains on death row,
- 15:20Speaker 1: one of nine people under capital sentence in Kansas. The
- 15:25Speaker 1: appeal is the last known legal action in a case
- 15:28Speaker 1: that has moved through every level of the American court system,
- 15:32Speaker 1: and arrived each time at the same answer. Shan Seket
- 15:37Speaker 1: was 24 years old in 2023. He finished high school
- 15:42Speaker 1: with the support of his paternal grandparents, Wayne and Patricia Seket,
- 15:48Speaker 1: the parents of the man who killed his mother. and
- 15:51Speaker 1: his sisters. He went to therapy. He built something after
- 15:55Speaker 1: the thing that happened to him in a farmhouse kitchen
- 15:58Speaker 1: on the evening of November 28th, 2009, when he was
- 16:02Speaker 1: ten years old and sitting with his mother, cleaning coins.
- 16:06Speaker 1: The coins were still on the table when Deputy Perling arrived.
- 16:10Speaker 1: The trial lasted one week. The jury took two hours.
- 16:15Speaker 1: On August 25th, 2011, James Seacat was found guilty of
- 16:20Speaker 1: capital murder. He was 48 years old. The judge confirmed
- 16:25Speaker 1: the death sentence the same day. Two hours of deliberation
- 16:30Speaker 1: for four lives and a decade of calculated control. The
- 16:34Speaker 1: defense had spent years building toward that courtroom. They argued
- 16:38Speaker 1: James was mentally ill, that something had broken in him
- 16:42Speaker 1: beyond his own understanding. The jury heard that argument. They
- 16:46Speaker 1: also heard Shant. a 12-year-old boy, testifying by video link,
- 16:52Speaker 1: describing the moment his mother was shot in the kitchen
- 16:55Speaker 1: while they cleaned coins together. No cross-examination dissolved that image.
- 17:00Speaker 1: No psychiatric theory made it smaller. There is something that
- 17:04Speaker 1: still hasn't settled about how this case moved through the
- 17:07Speaker 1: legal system after that verdict. Not because the outcome was wrong,
- 17:12Speaker 1: but because of what came after. The Kansas Supreme Court
- 17:16Speaker 1: upheld the sentence in 2018. The United States Supreme Court
- 17:22Speaker 1: upheld it in 2020. Specifically rejecting the argument that Kansas'
- 17:27Speaker 1: abolition of the insanity defense in 1995 was unconstitutional, the
- 17:33Speaker 1: highest court in the country looked at what James Seacat
- 17:36Speaker 1: had done and found no procedural exit, no legal architecture
- 17:41Speaker 1: that could undo what the evidence showed. Then, in January
- 17:45Speaker 1: of 2023, attorney Julia Shaw filed a 27-page appeal. 14
- 17:52Speaker 1: grounds for overturning the conviction. 12 of those 14 were
- 17:57Speaker 1: about ineffective legal representation, not new evidence, not a different
- 18:03Speaker 1: reading of the facts. The argument was that James had
- 18:06Speaker 1: not been defended well enough the first time. As of
- 18:09Speaker 1: October of that year, no ruling had been issued. James
- 18:14Speaker 1: Seacat remains on death row. He is one of nine
- 18:17Speaker 1: people currently sentenced to capital punishment in Kansas. There is
- 18:22Speaker 1: one more thing that matters here, not a legal detail,
- 18:26Speaker 1: a human one. Sean Seacat was 10 years old on
- 18:31Speaker 1: the day his father walked through that farmhouse door. By
- 18:34Speaker 1: the time he sat before a video camera to testify,
- 18:38Speaker 1: he was 12. He described what he saw with the
- 18:41Speaker 1: kind of precision that only comes from a memory that
- 18:44Speaker 1: will not let go. His father's face. The sound of
- 18:48Speaker 1: the first shot. The back door. The cold ground under
- 18:51Speaker 1: his feet as he ran. By October of 2023, Shan
- 18:56Speaker 1: was 24 years old. He had finished high school. He
- 19:01Speaker 1: had done it with the support of his paternal grandparents,
- 19:04Speaker 1: Wayne and Patricia Seacat, the parents of the man who
- 19:07Speaker 1: killed his families. That detail carries a weight that courtroom
- 19:11Speaker 1: language cannot hold. The people who raised James were also
- 19:15Speaker 1: the people who helped raise what James left behind. Shan
- 19:20Speaker 1: had therapy. He had time. What he did not have,
- 19:24Speaker 1: and will not have, is the thing that was taken
- 19:27Speaker 1: on a Saturday afternoon in November when his mother asked
- 19:30Speaker 1: him to help sort through a jar of coins. There
- 19:33Speaker 1: are cases that close cleanly. Evidence. Verdict. Sentence. line drawn
- 19:40Speaker 1: at the end. This is not one of those cases.
- 19:43Speaker 1: Karen Seacart wanted to be a health sciences professional. She
- 19:47Speaker 1: was enrolled at the University of Missouri when she died.
- 19:51Speaker 1: Emily was in her first year of pharmacy school, playing
- 19:55Speaker 1: drums in a band with her sister. Lorraine played bass.
- 19:59Speaker 1: Dorothy Wright was 89 years old, and owned the farmhouse
- 20:04Speaker 1: where she had lived long enough to watch her family
- 20:07Speaker 1: grow around her. She died four days after the shooting,
- 20:12Speaker 1: in a hospital in Topeka, never having returned to the
- 20:15Speaker 1: home she had offered her great-grandchildren for a holiday. None
- 20:20Speaker 1: of them were incidental. They were the center of something.
- 20:23Speaker 1: What James C. could not tolerate was not the affair,
- 20:27Speaker 1: not the divorce, not the humiliation of losing his job
- 20:32Speaker 1: or falling behind on child support. What he could not
- 20:36Speaker 1: tolerate was that Karen had chosen a life that did
- 20:40Speaker 1: not include him, that she had found her own shape.
- 20:43Speaker 1: Separate from his, he had tracked that shape through spyware
- 20:47Speaker 1: on a family computer. He had followed it through a
- 20:50Speaker 1: relocation that moved his entire family to another state, and
- 20:54Speaker 1: when none of it worked, When she still would not
- 20:57Speaker 1: return to the version of herself he had designed, he
- 21:00Speaker 1: drove to a farmhouse in rural Kansas on the day
- 21:04Speaker 1: after Thanksgiving with a MAC90 rifle in a long white box.
- 21:10Speaker 1: Lorraine named him before she tied. Dorothy named him from
- 21:14Speaker 1: a stretcher in a moving ambulance, and Sean, barefoot in
- 21:19Speaker 1: the November dark, ran to the nearest house and told
- 21:23Speaker 1: them everything. The coins were still on the kitchen table
- 21:27Speaker 1: when the first officer arrived. James had sorted them with
- 21:30Speaker 1: his son that morning. In what might have been the
- 21:33Speaker 1: last ordinary moment, any of them would ever have. And
- 21:36Speaker 1: then he had driven to that farmhouse and made sure
- 21:40Speaker 1: there would be no more ordinary moments. The coins stayed
- 21:43Speaker 1: where they were. Everything else was taken. What remains is
- 21:47Speaker 1: a man on death row. An appeal with no ruling,
- 21:51Speaker 1: and a young man named Shan, who finished high school.
- 21:55Speaker 1: While living with the parents of the person who destroyed
- 21:58Speaker 1: his world, the jar was still on the table. Shan
- 22:01Speaker 1: was already gone. And somewhere between those two facts is
- 22:05Speaker 1: everything this story has to say. This show is made
- 22:09Speaker 1: by Opa Media.