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Honour Through Music With WEDNESDAY 13 · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  So Wednesday thirteen, vocalist of Murder Dolls and Wednesday thirteen, beautiful mate Hay
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  doing today. I'm good, I'm good. Good to talk to you again,
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  my friend. So you're returning to Australia next February for a special tour
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  where you'll be performing Murder Dolls songs from the albums Beyond the Value of the
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  Murder Dolls and Women and Children Last. But I don't know about you,
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  mate, but I'm already excited and I'll be looking forward to something like this
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  for years. Uh me too, I'm excited. I didn't realize that,
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  you know that people were this is passionate about about the music. I mean,
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  I know they liked it, but it's just it's just great to see
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  that it's, you know, twenty one years later. There's still the old
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  fans, but there's this whole new generation of young fans that have been dying
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  for it as well. So it's just a it's just a great reaction.
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  We're in the middle of a US tour now and it is nothing but fun
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  just going out playing these songs that we're doing a full hour, forty five
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  minute set, playing twenty songs off both Records, thirteen off the first album,
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  the rest off the second, and it's just been a complete blast every
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  single night. And I cannot wait to bring it to Australia and see the
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  madness that it will create there. It's just it's I can't wait. Oh
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  yeah. And before announcing these soors earlier this year, mate, you hadn't
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  played any Murder Gold songs in over a decade, So what made you decide
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  to revisit them now? Well, I've I mean, there are Murdered Doll
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  songs scattered in the Wednesday thirteen set list, like I love to say the
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  fuck has been like a staple in my set list nineteen seventy six sixty six.
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  There are several songs that have kind of switched in and out over the
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  years. But the main thing that started this unfortunate was the passing of Joey
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  and last year when I was touring and I was sort of doing a celebration
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  of my twenty years of history, including Murder Dolls and Wednesday thirteen stuff,
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  and uh, there's a part of the set where I we played four or
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  five Murder Doll songs and I did a little story about Joey and I whatever,
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  And it was after the shows everyone was like, you know, I've
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  never heard murdered doll songs like that. You should do a full set like
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  this, and you know, now that Joey's past, it'd be a great
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  thing. And I'm like, you're right, you're right, You're right,
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  You're right. And it was just hearing it over and over every night,
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  and I realized this, why why shouldn't we do it? It's perfect time
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  to do it, and uh, you know, and also it was a
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  it was a healing thing for me, and I think it's a healing thing
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  for the fans. A lot of people didn't get to go to a concert
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  and and and celebrate something like that and have someone you know, I mean,
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  the whole concert isn't all about talking about Joey. There's a part where
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  I talk about him. I talk about Ben Graves as well, and but
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  you know, for people to come out and hear those songs, some people
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  have never even got to hear them ever live. So to hear that and
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  also have a little memorial tribute thing to to Joey, it's there's there's it's
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  the best of all worlds with it. So so yeah, it's uh,
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  it's it's been fun and I know that Australia tour is going to be something
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  to remember. So what can fans actually expect from the shows? Made Like
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  there's probably quite a few people who haven't seen Medals before, Like I remember
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  from seeing you when he came out for the big day out. I think
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  it's as much a visual show as it is a sonic show, isn't it.
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  Yeah, I mean I think what Murdered Dolls did well was just we
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  carried an attitude with us that was with the music and not necessarily it was
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  I mean, we had our image whatever that was, uh, and that's
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  pretty much was the stage show. We were the stage show, the energy,
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  the look, the dreadlocks, the black and red, it was.
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  It worked and we really didn't need a whole lot more gimmicks than that.
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  Of course I pulled out the umbrella and the brush my teeth on stage like
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  pee wee Herman. But yeah, this was you know, that's that's kind
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  of what we what we did. So went to do this tour and to
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  go back and revisit these songs. The main thing that I wanted to focus
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  one hundred percent was make sure these songs sounded justice with the albums everything like
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  drumming wise, I told my drummer who's a huge Joey fan as well,
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  and just I was like, do it justice, do these songs? Play
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  these songs the way Joey played the drums and he is and you know,
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  guitar everything. I want the vocal and want everything to be because this is
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  twenty one years in the making for some people never got to hear it.
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  I want them to come to the show and I want it to be everything
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  they wanted and more. It's it's not murder Dolls. It's Wednesday thirteen playing
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  murder Dolls. And it can't be murder Dolls without without Joey beside me.
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  And that's why I can't or don't want to call it murder Dolls, because
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  that was that was He was the thing. This is a tribute to the
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  music, and it also is a tribute to him and Ben and uh it's
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  it's been a blast so far, and I'm glad I get to take it
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  around the world and uh see a reaction the same way in other places,
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  so I know it's going to be a really important tour and special for a
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  lot of people, including including us. I'm not sure if I've told you
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  this before, but I've chatted before, mate, But I actually had Die
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  my Bride as my wedding song. I got married walking down the aisle.
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  I had that plane and like she had, her family was on that side
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  of the room. My mates are on that side, and my mates are
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  all going, fuck me. He said he was going to do it,
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  and her family's all like, oh my god, what is she marry an
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  inch? That's great, man, that's I think you did tell me that
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  before. That's cool. I've several people have gotten married to that song,
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  I think around the world, and that's crazy. Need to think that I
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  wrote that song literally ten minutes from where I'm standing right now in my parents'
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  bedroom. That was that song was written in nineteen ninety seven. You know,
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  that's how long that song goes back. So it's just crazy to know
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  that there's people around the world have embraced it like yourself and and may get
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  part of their of their world. You know, we actually break up before
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  eight pm on that night, So I'm not sure if that was his song.
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  Hey, hey, you know it is what it is. So go
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  back to the start of Maude and I was broad let. You started with
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  Joey back in two thousand and two, so what was your early vision for
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  the band? Was it just getting together with your mate and having a bit
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  of fun or did you just sort of did you want to do something more?
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  That's really all it was. It was how I mean it happened so
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  fat People will ask all the time, like, I mean you could look
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  at the band and you could if you didn't know anything about it, you
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  could guess and say, oh, I bet they worked on that for a
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  couple of years and it took him a while to craft that. No,
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  it was literally fly by the seat of your pants. Now now now what
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  are we doing. Luckily, when we started the band and Joey and I
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  met, we looked very similar, you know, the the way we dressed.
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  Joey had black hair, I had red and black dreadlocks. It was
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  just like. And then when we put the band together, the live band
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  together, and we brought in Eric and Ben, we picked them out of
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  we saw photos of them and then we were like, oh, let's send
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  us a video. So we picked We picked the band because we knew we
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  wanted a band that looked like something between the sex pistols and Motley Cruze shouted
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  the devil and that's what our image. And other than that, it was
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  just that look and the music. And we didn't really have to work on
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  the image that much because when we met Ben and Eric they looked like that.
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  They looked like that during the day. We looked like this during the
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  day. We just put on a little more makeup. We were just we
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  were already half dressed. We just and that was the fun thing about it.
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  It really wasn't a lot of thought, and we made stuff up on
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  the spot. Uh. I love to say. Fuck was the reason Murder
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  Dolls recorded that song. It wasn't on the original Uh, it was on
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  the on the uh the special edition. It's a bonus track because we were
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  in Europe and we were opening up for Papa Roach and the audience hated us
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  every night, and we we thought, okay, well, how can I
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  fuck with them even more? And I saw the Umbrella sitting over in the
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  corner and we had just started playing that song, and I was like,
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  I'm gonna write fuck on it and we'll see what happened. And that now
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  that's the staple of the show. People expect to see it and make it.
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  It's just part of it. And that's how we made stuff up,
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  you know. And uh, just oh well, let's I'm gonna shave my
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  eyebrows off today. Okay, I'll do it too, all right. Cool,
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  let's let's all wear red and we're all wearing red and blae. Let's
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  just kind of make it more uniform. All right, let's do it.
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  It was very and and then and so we were making it up as we
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  were going along, and it was also really fat. Joey had just a
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  short amount of time to do this and get back to slip Knock, so
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  it wasn't any time to think about it. And when the band started getting
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  some traction and getting eyes on us, you know, obviously because it was
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  the first time Slipknock members had been a mass so we had all these eyes
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  on us. And then it just it took off in different parts of the
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  world and here we are twenty one years later. It's it's it worked out.
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  It worked out in my favorite thanks to Joey. I don't have to
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  work a day job anymore. This is this is my job, and I
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  don't I don't consider it job. Are think probably the biggest shock for people
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  at the time too, with seeing Joey play the guitar like he was a
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  fucking good guitarist as well as a good drum uni. Yeah, he was
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  all an all around musician. The funny thing was when we got together and
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  we started playing them making the Murder Doll's album because lot people don't know,
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  because when you see the packaging, you see the band on it. Nobody
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  played on that record except for Joey, me and Trip. There were three
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  people on that album. That's it. Nobody else played on it, and
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  Trip came in just one day to do guitar solos, but everything else was
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  ninety Joey ten percent Me on the instruments. I did some bass and guitar
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  solos I think on nineteen seventy six or something like that. But between Joey
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  and I we were a full band. Joey couldn't sing and I couldn't play
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  drums, but he could play drums and I could sing, and we both
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  could play guitar and play bass and play piano or whatever enough, and we
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  together we were a two man band, and instantly we had chemistry. We
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  worked like Joey be like I don't know, there was something about him.
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  He could pull some of the coolest ideas out of me, just because it
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  made me feel good when I could get a reaction out of him when he
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  would go, that's fucking awesome, and I'm like, whoa, I just
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  made the guy slipped on the guy with a Grammy say, I you know
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  what I mean? Like it was it meant something when he would and he
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  was serious about it. He was like, that's a great idea. And
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  I loved having a miss having that, you know, having a dude.
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  It would be like he pushed and pulled a lot with me. And I
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  don't think I would do or be who I am without having his involvement in
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  my in my world. When you actually came together, like Joey was with
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  slipping not a clause and you sort of mainly with Frankenstein, Greg Queens from
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  Planet thirty ente of a time. So how did the union of that metal
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  and you're sort of glam punky sort of stuff, how to come together and
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  create them redivols? I mean, you know it was just it was our
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  influences. I mean, uh, you know, I was doing Frankenstein,
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  Drag Queens. My favorite bands were were Alice Cooper, I was really listening
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  to like New York Dolls and stuff around that time. I really got it
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  to the to the the guy Ed Wood in that movie Tim Burton put out
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  and all that sort of created Frankenstein Drag Queens. And then Joey happened to
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  be simultaneously, not even knowing him. He was in Iowa doing the Rejects,
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  which was this punk kind of thing. So whenever he heard Frankenstein Drag
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  Queens and it was up for me being a part of this project with him.
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  He was hearing what I was doing mixed with what he was doing.
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  He was like, that's the closest thing I've heard to what I'm doing.
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  If we could get this together, maybe we can make something that that's even
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  better than what we have on our own. And that's what it what it
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  was. And he was able to take my songs that he heard from Frankenstein
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  Drag Queens and go that's pretty good, but what if what if we do
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  this and twisted a bit. He produced it. He produced those songs.
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  A lot of people will go, well, Murdered All's first album is Frankenstein
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  Drag Queens re Recordings. I'm like, no, they're re recording, they're
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  reproduced, they're they're they're produced by Joey. Joey is you know all people
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  don't know him as outside of the drummer and well he plays guitar, but
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  he's a great producer. He knows how to to hear. He knows when
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  he hears a song and goes, that's a good song. And for example,
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  you can take my two favorite songs on the last Murder Dolls record,
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  Nowhere in Summertime Suicide were songs that I didn't think were good songs until Joey
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  Georgison said, you're crazy, those songs are good. There was a demo
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  I hadn't just left it in the corner. He heard it and went,
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  these songs are amazing, and I'm like, are you sure? Are you
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  crazy? And then when I hear them now, I'm like, was I
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  crazy? He made He heard that in the little bit that I had,
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  and those songs, that song would have never had the light of day had
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  he not heard the potential in it. And that's what I missed the most,
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  is having someone that can because I'm so unsure of myself with songs all
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  the time, and he was He was the one to tell me that's good
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  or that fucking sucks, and he had no problem doing either one. And
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  I had no problem with him telling me that either. It was a I
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  liked. I liked the honesty with it. I think he was probably I
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  think about the third person I ever interviewed way back into late nineties, and
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  she did like I've done hundreds since then, but to this day, he's
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  still probably one of the most eloquent, well spoken, nicest people I've ever
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  Smeeart and it was just it was an absolute gentleman. Yeah, he's a
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  good dude. Man the world lost to good dudes, and a lot of
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  people didn't know him other outside of the drumming, but he was He was
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  a good a good friend. He was a good, good hearted person.
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  He loved his fans and and I've never seen a more of a music fan
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  than that guy. Like he turned me on to so much music. I
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  was a little stubborn, one sided. If it wasn't this way, I
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  wasn't gonna listen to it. And he's like, you're an idiot. Listen
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  to this, Listen to this, listen to this. And there's so many
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  bands I love now that I wouldn't have listened to if he wouldn't have like
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  he introduced me to a killing Joke and the Melvins and Faith no more bands.
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  I wasn't gonna give a chance. And he's like, and now I
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  can't imagine what my music would be without having that that sprinkled in. So
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  he's he's he was a genius and we lost a good dude. Right now,
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  I'm gonna ask you to do something, sabooy. You might pick between
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  your two kids. So which should the two medals albums your personal favorite?
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  The second one is my favorite because there was I worked on it longer then
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  I did the first. The first one was we did a little bit of
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  music on it. I went home a little bit of music on it,
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  and then I came back and it's like, do all the vocals in two
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  days and you're done. The record's done. It wasn't like and plus those
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  songs were songs I had recorded before, so it wasn't brand new to me.
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  It was a new version of it, but it wasn't brand new.
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  I was excited to hear those new versions. But when we did the second
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  album, it was literally they went, Okay, we're going to put you
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  in this recording studio and a house. Live in the house basically a compound
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  and for thirty days, all you got to do is make a record and
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  you've got food, booze, whatever you want, just do it. And
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  I'm like, this is great. We got thirty days and Joey and I
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  rekindled our friendship. Ramon was there, he joined the band, and it
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  was just literally an entire thirty days of dudes. Just we were the best
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  of friends. Uh. And we made that record from scratch. And that's
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  why that one means a lot more to me. And because, like I
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  said, the first one was re recordings. I still love that record too,
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  but the second one just there's there's memories with it more than the music.
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  Sometimes that I that makes me a lot closer to that. I'll before
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  I let you go, mate, I've started doing not three different Spotify playlists
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  people could get a quainted with the Bandstery Speak. Do you say, here's
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  in your own songs that could be frankenstearin they can be murdered all as that
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  could be your own. Give us a song for a playlist to get the
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  party started, one for a playlist to save your marriage, and one for
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  a playlist to end your marriage. And I know what that one's going to
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  be. Straight up. I want one to end my marriage off of my
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  songs. Uh hmmm, let's see. Uh let's fuck would be the one
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  to end my marriage because that would be one not going toward my wife.
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  I would say so. And what's the other question, I want one to
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  save my marriage? Uh? I love it first fright, that's a that's
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  me giving my heart out. So there you go. Okay. I wanted
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  to get the party started. Oh I love to say fuck. That's a
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  party starter. Beautiful Wednesday or may well. Thanks very much your time,
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  Bra, it's been a pleasure and today this side of you as well.
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  Mate. And I'll be front center of the Brisbane Show in February, So
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  take care of yourself. You'll the maten always good talking for you man,
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  take care, see you soon, all right. Rather make it