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🎉 Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip Alter Egos, NeNe’s Return & 🏙️ Next Gen Ski Trip Chaos Plus Leah Remini & Tracy Tutor Join RHOBH · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Drama, darling. Drama, darling. Drama, darling.
• 0:17
  Speaker 2: Hey everybody, what's up? Welcome back. It's a gorgeous Monday
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: in gorgeous California, right here in Santa Clarita, where... Things
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: are looking up because I'm going to be talking about
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: the Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip and Next Gen. Joining
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  Speaker 2: me to do so is Deanna Chang. Deanna Chang, enter
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  Speaker 2: the chat, please. Hello.
• 0:45
  Speaker 3: Feeling lifted up by this Ultimate Girls Trip.
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, wowie zowie. Is this a lift? Oh my gosh. Hi,
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  Speaker 2: welcome in. Okay, wait. First, I mean, I'm not doing
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: a full dish today, but I have to say- We
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: announced last week that Leah Remini was joining The Real
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: Housewives of Beverly Hills. And then yesterday, Tracy Tudor, formerly
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  Speaker 2: of Million Dollar Listing Los Angeles, is now also joining
• 1:11
  Speaker 2: This Is Fire. This Is Fire. We talked about Leah.
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  Speaker 2: We talked about how she was going to dish it
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  Speaker 2: out to some people. She's going to be a great addition. Now,
• 1:21
  Speaker 2: were you ever following Million Dollar Listing Los Angeles? Yes.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so excited about Tracy. She's just great.
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  Speaker 3: Fantastic. You know, she's just a, she is the blueprint
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  Speaker 3: for a real estate agent.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my God. And you, I know how you speak
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  Speaker 2: on those real estate agents. I know. But like in
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  Speaker 2: the best way. But listen, she, um, she's like in
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  Speaker 2: the third quarter of her life where it's like, she's
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  Speaker 2: living her best life right now. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: Like she's done all this stuff. She's, you know, she's
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  Speaker 2: done the career, she's done the marriage, she's done the kids,
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  Speaker 2: she's gotten the divorce. She's has, she had or has
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  Speaker 2: the young boyfriend and now she is ripe for the
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: picking and she's been on a reality show. Oh, she's
• 2:10
  Speaker 2: done it all. Oh my God.
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  Speaker 3: It was, I think she did get it. I know
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  Speaker 3: she was like, it's coming. I don't know if it came.
• 2:19
  Speaker 2: It looks like it came and went. Um, I feel
• 2:21
  Speaker 2: like she's done a lot, but she, and she works
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  Speaker 2: out constantly. Like she's gotten the body. She's done it. I,
• 2:27
  Speaker 2: we've watched it all on Instagram. Love it or list it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, she's there and I'm excited. Yeah. For her
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  Speaker 2: to join the ranks.
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  Speaker 3: Like I just, I get a kick out of her.
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  Speaker 3: I think she's just great at what she does. I
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  Speaker 3: love her relationship with Josh Altman. It's the weirdest. I
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  Speaker 3: just enjoy her.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Yeah. She's so great. Yeah. She's wonderful. I'm trying
• 2:54
  Speaker 2: to remember. I used to have a Tracy impression and
• 2:56
  Speaker 2: I like have to pull it from cold storage right now,
• 2:59
  Speaker 2: but I just remember her being like, because I haven't watched,
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: you know, like so long, but I just remember her
• 3:07
  Speaker 2: being like, So emphatic about houses. She'd be like, we
• 3:11
  Speaker 2: are going to do a walkthrough. I mean, she kind
• 3:13
  Speaker 2: of gives Stacey Roush vibes with like, you know, Stacey
• 3:17
  Speaker 2: from Potomac is like kind of like a broadcaster. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Tracy is sort of that. So I'm going to be
• 3:24
  Speaker 2: having to pull that back, and I'm excited.
• 3:27
  Speaker 3: Look, Beverly Hills has you going into the, yeah, the
• 3:32
  Speaker 3: cold freezer and pulling.
• 3:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that deep freeze. That deep freezer. Yeah. And defrosting. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I got to defrost my Tracy Tudor. And I have
• 3:42
  Speaker 2: to find my Leah Remini because like, you know, as
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: far as like King of Queens, I mean, that's like
• 3:47
  Speaker 2: one of Brett's favorite shows. Like Brett loves the King
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  Speaker 2: of Queens and he loves Frasier. So like he, you know,
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  Speaker 2: one of the things if he's really wants to relax,
• 3:59
  Speaker 2: he'll like at night, he'll put on a Frasier, you know, like.
• 4:02
  Speaker 2: I love that. Do you know what I'm saying? It's Dr.
• 4:04
  Speaker 2: Frasier Green. I'm listening. I'm listening. And it's great. And
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  Speaker 2: I love that because Frasier is one of my all-time favorites,
• 4:09
  Speaker 2: but he loves the King of Queens. And I mean,
• 4:12
  Speaker 2: that is a quality show. It is. To which she
• 4:15
  Speaker 2: was the star. She and Kevin James and others. But anyway.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be able to tell you the others, but yes.
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  Speaker 2: Ben Stiller's dad.
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  Speaker 3: She's got the it. She's got the it factor. And also,
• 4:34
  Speaker 3: you know, she really was the co-star of our youth. Like,
• 4:37
  Speaker 3: she was in.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh, I like that phrase, the co-star of our youth.
• 4:42
  Speaker 2: You can find that on How to Be Less Old
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  Speaker 2: with Deanna Chang and Emily Foster.
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  Speaker 3: Well, she, yeah, she was in Who's the Boss? She
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  Speaker 3: was Samantha's best friend from Queens.
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  Speaker 2: She was? Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: And then she had a spinoff on that show called
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  Speaker 3: she was just in a ton.
• 5:01
  Speaker 2: She was in a ton of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Like do yourself a favor and go catch some like teenage,
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  Speaker 3: because I remember thinking, oh my God, she's so authentic.
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  Speaker 3: You know, like this is an actress that's like doing
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  Speaker 3: her own thing and like is so authentic.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, she was, she's one of a kind because
• 5:25
  Speaker 2: one of a kind that came out of that generation,
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  Speaker 2: like she has the face of a princess, but then
• 5:31
  Speaker 2: she's got like the personality of Robert De Niro, you know?
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  Speaker 2: So it's like putting those two things together. And then
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  Speaker 2: it was kind of like a, a new thing to, to,
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  Speaker 2: and to entertainment and for actresses. Cause I feel like
• 5:45
  Speaker 2: after her, a lot of other actresses and personalities.
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  Speaker 3: You know, then you get your, you know, you get
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  Speaker 3: them all, but she was like an early, she was
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  Speaker 3: an early, just like, Very natural, very pretty. Brought an
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  Speaker 3: energy to the small screen.
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  Speaker 2: Joie de vivre, as they say. Darlene.
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  Speaker 4: Darlene.
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  Speaker 3: Darlene.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of, let's... Speaking of. Yeah, let's talk about The
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Tour because.
• 6:17
  Speaker 3: And I do want to say, like, while I was
• 6:19
  Speaker 3: watching last night, I'm like, yeah, thank you, Amy, for
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  Speaker 3: just highlighting the dynamics between Lou and Vicky. Because... Lou
• 6:29
  Speaker 3: is riding her ass.
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: And they just are aggravating each other. And Vicky's riding
• 6:36
  Speaker 3: Lou's ass. Like they are, that's the stuff sitcoms are
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  Speaker 3: also made of, you know?
• 6:41
  Speaker 2: I agree. And that is what is a beautiful thread.
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: And I hope it continues throughout the entire Ultimate Girl
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  Speaker 2: Strip because that's what we want. We want to see
• 6:51
  Speaker 2: harmless- annoying behavior, one annoying another housewife, and they're so different,
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  Speaker 2: and that's what's so great about it, and they're both
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  Speaker 2: leaning into it.
• 7:01
  Speaker 3: And they're both alpha, you know, ultimately.
• 7:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good point, good point. They are both alpha.
• 7:06
  Speaker 3: Yes, and they both think who they are.
• 7:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know? I mean, Vicky, yeah, Lou is annoyed
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  Speaker 2: with Vicky, Vicky's annoyed with Lou, and they always are
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  Speaker 2: going to speak on it outside of each other and
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  Speaker 2: tell someone else, but Keep it going, you know?
• 7:23
  Speaker 3: Keep it going.
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  Speaker 2: It's perfect.
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  Speaker 3: And I do get great enjoyment out of it.
• 7:28
  Speaker 2: So speaking of Lou, we have to acknowledge that her
• 7:32
  Speaker 2: alter ego immediately has a fedora. Immediately a fedora. There's
• 7:37
  Speaker 2: no question.
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  Speaker 3: I was screaming.
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  Speaker 2: At the television.
• 7:43
  Speaker 3: Like, your alter ego is cabaret. Your whole ego is cabaret.
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: You are cabaret.
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  Speaker 2: You are cabaret. What are you doing? But she also
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: said in her, like, to somebody in some room, she
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: was like, I'm going to just kind of lean into,
• 7:57
  Speaker 2: you know, the countess of the count of the countess count.
• 8:02
  Speaker 2: Remember when she said that? I'm going to be serious.
• 8:04
  Speaker 4: She was just.
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  Speaker 2: So silly.
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  Speaker 3: It's not a thing.
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: But also like that's already you as well because you
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  Speaker 2: were the countess. Isn't this the idea that you're doing
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  Speaker 2: something that you wouldn't normally do? Look, there were a
• 8:18
  Speaker 2: lot of shades of gray. There were. Thank you.
• 8:23
  Speaker 3: Everyone really did a choose your own adventure on this task.
• 8:27
  Speaker 2: Can we just go through them? Because it was like,
• 8:30
  Speaker 2: all right, first of all, I don't know if they
• 8:33
  Speaker 2: picked them or someone else picked them. But it sounds
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: they did because Vicky was confused about Jackie O. Because
• 8:42
  Speaker 2: on the phone with her assistant, wasn't she like, who
• 8:45
  Speaker 2: is this? Like, who by Audrey Hepburn? Right? And she like,
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: I think it would be Audrey Hepburn.
• 8:50
  Speaker 3: Did some like comedy wig work.
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: She always brings the comedy wig work with her. And
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: no matter what. Yeah. She's just like, I can't see
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  Speaker 2: which way it goes. I don't know. I said, who
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: am I? Audrey Hepburn? Catherine Hepburn? Am I burning? Am
• 9:08
  Speaker 2: I burning bad? What am I? And then, yeah. And
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  Speaker 2: she's just, her assistant is delighted though. He's just like,
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  Speaker 2: you are too much. You're too much. No, you're Jackie O, Vicky.
• 9:24
  Speaker 3: And Lou was like, Jackie O at her funeral.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, that's right. Wait, at the very end, the
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  Speaker 4: very end of that sentence, she goes, no. You know,
• 9:34
  Speaker 4: she like does. She acts like she's in a foreign
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  Speaker 4: country all the time. So she's kind of like.
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, I couldn't find the bathroom, no. Everything is just,
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying? Like she'll put on. Stop it.
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: She did. You know where she did that? Where did
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: she do that? She does that when she's on like
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: cast trips in another country. Okay. That's where it really
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  Speaker 2: kicks up.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: She's talking to a waiter or something. She's like, darling,
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  Speaker 2: the oysters only got on the half shell.
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: No.
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: But I wanted a Rockefeller, not on the half shell. No.
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know, you know? Oh, man.
• 10:24
  Speaker 3: What an international woman of mystery she is.
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: But yeah, she slammed Vicky with her Jackie O. She
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: slammed her a little bit, you know? And it was warranted.
• 10:35
  Speaker 3: Vicky has been looking like death on this trip. Even
• 10:40
  Speaker 3: sitting at the drag show, she's cloaked in a heavy
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  Speaker 3: black garment up to the neck.
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: I'm like Vicky.
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: Come on.
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I noticed that. Let's have a little color. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: She did look like she was going to another funeral.
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, I do love black. She did. Who does?
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: Who amongst?
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: But it's just like what she's doing in this black
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  Speaker 3: is not good.
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: Because you're going to a drag show. I mean, did
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: you like, let's all look at Kyle. Did you see
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: what she was wearing? It was a multicolored sequin blazer.
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure she had turquoise on. But like, did
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: you see all the colors she brought? You know?
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: Lisa also likes black, but at least she does it
• 11:23
  Speaker 3: a little bit cooler than, like, Vicky's just, she's giving,
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: I don't want to be here. I don't want to
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: be seen.
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: Right. Don't look at me. Right. Where as opposed to, like, Lisa,
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: that's kind of her thing. She really does wear black
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: all the time. She does. I mean, that is kind
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: of like her thing. So Vicky is Jackie O. Giselle
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: is Diana Ross, which I loved. That was fantastic. Did
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: you like that? Giselle's on my nerve right now with
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: the microphone. Oh. Oh, with the microphone. Yeah. When she
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: was talking to them. Yeah, I couldn't figure out. I
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: was like, is that thing on? Is she just using
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: it as a prop, though?
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: I get it. We need her. But let's not see
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: every turn of the wheel. Do you know what I mean? Like,
• 12:11
  Speaker 3: I feel like Giselle is, there's no je ne sais.
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: Quoi about it. No, there's no je ne sais quoi, no.
• 12:18
  Speaker 3: Exactly, Lou. Like it's just too laid bare and the
• 12:23
  Speaker 3: microphone only enhanced it and I was irritated.
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: If she would have put the microphone up to the
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: other people and had them respond, now that would have
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: been forgivable and funny. But she didn't do that. She
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: didn't do that.
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  Speaker 3: She held it.
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Now, Diana Ross is a great alter ego
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: for her because She says she can't dance and she
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: can't sing. So this really is truly, I feel, the
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: epitome of a great choice for an alter ego.
• 12:54
  Speaker 3: May I ask a question? Yes. Who was Lou when
• 12:59
  Speaker 3: she was?
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: Well, she said she was Tina Turner. This time?
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: Well, that is insane.
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Tina Turner. Right. No. But who, when she, many years
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: ago for Halloween, she wore an afro.
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  Speaker 2: Diana Ross. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: How did we not have anyone bring that up? Oh,
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: my God. I'm so glad you brought that up. Oh, my... Well,
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: you know, the night is young, right?
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: But you know what? You're right. There's no way that
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: can't be brought up.
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  Speaker 3: I thought Giselle was doing it to get back at
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: Lou and be.
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: Like, I got this.
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: Thanks, Lou.
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. You really... You got into the details.
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: I freaking forgot about that. And I'm sure... She would
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: like us all to forget about that. No.
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: Like she may have forgotten about it because I was
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: looking at her face real good when Giselle was presenting
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: that she.
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  Speaker 2: And Lou was. Oh, she didn't even notice. Right.
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: She may have or she may have played it well,
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: you know, but she didn't go.
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: Someone's going to bring up the Diana Ross thing. Here
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: we go. It was an homage. Who doesn't want to
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: dress like Diana Ross?
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: No.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: No. It was bronzer. No. Yes. Well, yes. It's a lot. Yes,
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: it was. And it was not the shade that we
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: were looking for, you know, on a white woman. No.
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: It's just like at some point you must drop into
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  Speaker 3: current day.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: And just gather around. Ask a question. You know, field it.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: to a small group outside of the housewives and just
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: go temperature check how does this feel.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: Let me ask do you think that she's gonna try
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: to if she remembers and maybe somebody will mention something
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: to her about it either off camera or on but
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: what would be so lou is if she tackles this
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: before anyone gets to it and so she goes up
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: to giselle and says oh darling you look fabulous You're
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: doing it much better than me. I mean, I did
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: it a while ago. I mean, I really loved being
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: Diana Ross. You know, I had such a great time.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: I looked fabulous. But you know what? You're even better.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: And then just walk away and not even acknowledge what
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: actually happened.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, it would certainly be very Lou. But I
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: have to imagine with all the backlash.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: It's got to come up. It has to. I mean,
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: Maybe everyone forgot, you know.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: I forgot. But housewives will be reminded by producers.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: So I'm glad you brought it up. So we'll have
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: to see about that. Portia being a Stepford wife was good.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: I loved it.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: That outfit was so cute on her. The cherries on
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: the head. Oh, the cherries were awesome. I love the cherries.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: I love the cherries.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: She looked And that look, tip to tail, like she
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: brought it the hardest, I.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Thought, in terms of just a beautiful look. That to
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: me was a standout. And I'm such a sucker for
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: like a 50s, 60s. you know, era Stepford wife look.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, it just, it's so fun and can be
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: campy and kitschy and just cute. And it also was
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: just fun to see the montage that came with that,
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: which was when, you know, she was first married and
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: like that whole, like she wanted to be a great
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: wife and that's all she wanted to do. And then
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: we got 265 days a year. We got the Underground
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Railroad and then we get her now. It's fantastic. What
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: a journey.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: The Underground Railroad will like go down in history. I
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: think that the fact that she was 30, only 30
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: years of age.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: That was a really good marker of time that she
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: gave us that like, I was 30 and I'm 45 now. And,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: you know, 15 years have passed and look at how...
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: And also, you know, when they did, you know, kind
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: of jumping around, we'll go back to the alter egos
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: in a second. But I really appreciated the conversation that
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: they had at dinner before that party where they were
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: talking with Nini about, you know, being off camera and
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: what that was like. And Nini was like at the beginning...
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: I was happy, she said, and I was happy to
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: be gone. But then when they started shooting, she's like,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: you know, I felt weird. And it's an interesting way
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: to like, you know, she presented it nicely, but that
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: had to have been tearing her up. And she did
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: not show us how she truly felt because I'm sure it's,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: you know, she's moved on, but she didn't really show
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: her cards. There's been a lot of background conversations.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: A lot.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: So I think we needed to, I thought this was perfect.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: The way that she handled it?
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: Yes. Yeah.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: She addressed it. She moved forward and she, then she
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: hit it right over to Portia to kind of like
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: bookend what she was going to say. Cause she's like,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, Portia, you, when you left the housewives, you
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: were okay too, right? And Portia, this is where I
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: thought it was interesting to hear her at that age,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: like 45 or whatever it was when she left. She
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: said she thought she was done with the housewives. She
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: wanted to see what life was like outside of the housewives.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: We know outside of the cameras and that the three
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: years gave her peace. And that was interesting because she
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: said that she's really protective over it. But then now
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: that she's back on camera, she's saying it's got to
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: be really real stuff. I guess I didn't really understand
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: what she meant by that. Like she's protective of her
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: of her peace. So that when she's on camera, it
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: has to be really, really real. What does that mean?
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: I felt like she was talking about Shamia personally. And
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: just saying like, I'm not going to, because I think
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: she's been quite measured. And I've not watched every frame
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: of this season of Atlanta. But what I've seen, I
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: think she has, you see Portia not going all in
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: like she would have done when she was younger. she's
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: really put up a boundary. Is that fair to say? Okay.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: You're right. Now I'm understanding it on a flip side.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: I think what she meant was I'm protective of that peace.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: So she's going to have peace on the show by
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: not creating waves where there aren't any waves and trying
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: to be as peaceful as she can on the show. Yes. Okay.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: That makes so much sense. I didn't understand. I think so.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's what my interpretation is. Like, even when
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: yeah like a situation's really trying her like she's not
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: gonna just pop off and get into it with everybody
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: and cause chaos like I'm gonna she and I do
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: see that growth.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: In her yeah yeah absolutely yeah she's like a oh
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: I don't like a different she's not a different person
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: but she is very mature matured completely different on her,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: you know, involvement in the show. Yeah. So, okay, let's
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: get back to the alter egos because I want to
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: keep going through that list because it's just so fun. Okay, wait.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I died when I saw that Angie was Cher. Do
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: you know that when I do the impression of her,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: I basically do a Cher impression?
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Well, do you think she's heard it?
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's possible. I thought that that was
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: a little... Like, I don't know, a really big coincidence.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Unless she, you know, the other part of it is
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: that she just loves Cher because she looks and sounds
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: like Cher, which is what I picked up on. And
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: so then that's why she did Cher because she actually
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: loves Cher. So I'm going to have to go with that.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I don't think that it's because they would have heard
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: my impression. I'm going to have to go with like
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: it's serendipitous. It's not out of the realm of possibility
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: for sure because there have been several things over the
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: years where I've seen my stuff pop up other places
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: that it's so specific that I'm like, okay, I see
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: where you got that. I don't need the kadoos, but okay.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Let's hear your kadoos. Listen, she's who she is. It
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: is what it is. It is what it is. But
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: I do think it's probably a complete coincidence. And I
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: think Angie and I are vibing. Like I picked up
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: that Cher in her and she loves Cher. So that
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: made me LOL. I was like, get out, babe. Here
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: she is in that long black wig. I'm like, wait,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: that's probably not a wig. That's probably her hair. Okay.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Mary as Wonder Woman. That was unexpected. And what do
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: you think that Mary meant by that? Sure.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think every girl heightened to your fullest
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: is Wonder Woman, right?
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Wait, I'm just like thinking Mary's like, oh, we got
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: to do what? Wonder Woman. Okay. Whatever. Wonder Woman. Like
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: she's just looking at the TV and all of a
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: sudden something on Wonder Woman comes up. She doesn't care.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: She's like, Wonder Woman, whatever. I know.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: She's been through it. Like, I don't know where this
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: is in her timeline, but like, marriage is getting herself anywhere.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: You know, this like is, you know, thank you.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: So then we have Candice. That was wild to see
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: her back. Oh, my God. Misunderstood. It's pretty good. It's
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: a message, a very strong message for all the ladies.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: And I would I'm going to have to say that
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: that's definitely not an alter ego. It's just her having
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: an agenda to try to tell everybody, like, I've been misunderstood.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: You know, Amy, you know what it's giving me right now?
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: You know the Alanis Morissette song, Isn't It Ironic, when, like,
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: a lot of it wasn't actually ironic. It was just
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: a misunderstanding or, like, this is– you're giving it the isn't.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: It ironic treatment. You know what I mean? Yeah.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Where they don't, they can't, yeah, they can't do it
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: totally right, you know?
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Because it's just not, it's not available.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: No, it's not. It's not. And, like, producers aren't going
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: to argue with them about their choice. They're going to
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: be like, oh, that's what you want to do? Okay. Great. Great.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Great choice. And Stacey was Tyra Banks. I just thought
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: that was, like, so funny. I could. I could see
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: her picking that, though. That actually makes sense to me.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: And it was probably before the Netflix documentary that she
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: chose this and that they shot this because I don't
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: know if she would have done it otherwise. But anyway.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: And then Drew was the princess of rock, which came
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: out of nowhere. But it is the opposite of her.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Because she's like a very she's like a soul singer,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: R & B singer. And she's like an actress and
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: she's very chill. She's in a lot of movies where
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: it's like low key or dramatic. Right, right, right, right.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Princess of Rock is really out of her wheelhouse. So
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: that was good. Yeah.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Some of them did like a heightening of themselves. Like
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Lisa kind of.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Lisa and Kyle had the same heightening. Yeah,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: they had like more of a heightening. What did you
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: think about Kyle's? Because that was appropriate for her because
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: that's all she wants to be. So I almost felt like, well,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: even though that's a part of her, she does ultimately
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: want to be a full on cowgirl. What did you think?
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Ultimately, I wasn't moved by it. I was a little like, wah, wah.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: But ultimately, Ultimate Girls Trip didn't do it.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: OK. Yeah. You know, I mean.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Like there's a lot of ladies to look at. So
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: I was accepting, I had some radical acceptance around what
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: they were bringing me, but Kyle's, Kyle and Lisa just
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: sort of, yeah, I don't know.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: No, they phoned it in like Heather Gay said on
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: a hot mic. Okay.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: I am excited to talk to you about that.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Crazy. But wait, Kyle looked like she looked just last
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: week when she showed up to go to like, you know,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: a sushi party. Like, So she had the same turquoise
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: a million times. So if she's going to do it,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: if she really wants to be a cowgirl, we're going
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: to need full everything. Like, yes. I mean, tassels, fringe,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: same thing. Boots. Like, I mean, Dolly Parton, you know, whatever.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: By the way, I beg your pardon. I beg your pardon.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I'm wearing a t-shirt right now.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: I love that. Yeah.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: That's amazing.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: That's amazing.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: I will say I'm very happy she didn't suffer. I
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: keep thinking that, like, I'm so grateful for that.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's a really beautiful point.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: She worked right up until the end, right? She had
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: canceled dates and she didn't suffer. I truly take that
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: as such a win.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. That is a blessing. You're right. And everyone
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: on the Ultimate Girls trip should learn from that. If
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: you're going to dress like a cowgirl, you go big. Lisa, yeah,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: just in all black, like with a hat. Wait, what
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: did you say?
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: She's like, you know, I really want to live on
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: the farm.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: That's right. She did say that. I want to be
• 26:50
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  Speaker 2: then who else do we have? Ashley. We've seen Ash, T.O.P.,
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  Speaker 2: and that's fine. All right. Let's go back to what
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: you wanted to mention. Okay. The hot mic with Heather. Okay. Wow.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Can we just gather ourselves around Lisa and the Salt
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Lake City women and what they're trying to get done? Right.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Now? Yeah. What are they trying to get done? They
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: got to come to this city. They got to come
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: to Atlanta. Honestly, Deanna, I didn't expect them to be
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: in Atlanta. We just saw them in Beverly Hills. What
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: are they doing in Atlanta? Thank you. They are.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: And I think Heather's leading the charge. So pissed. It's
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: something they can unify around.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: The fact that Lisa has been tapped for this.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: You're right.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Is rubbing them raw.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Nailed it. That's why... That's why everyone has a problem
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: with her. What happened? And why Kyle's like in the car.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: She's like, who's being mean to you? And she's like,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Heather and Angie and Mary. And she's like, they're dead
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: to me. Did you hear her say that? It's like having.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: That was powerful.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: It was very powerful. Porsche has been very powerful in
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: her support. This is a mouse, in my opinion, a
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: grave miscalculation on their part.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. Deanna, speak on it.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: Well, I think that they.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: A grave mistake.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: I think they gathered, you know, and... They gathered around
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: the gathering tree.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: What?
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: There's a restaurant they go to in Salt Lake City
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: with that guy who RIP. Anyway, I don't remember it.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember it.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Pull it in. I don't have it. Oh, right. Volter.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Volter's place. Yes. They gathered.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: They got around a table in Volter's.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Volter's.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Volter's. And they were like, they can't believe after the
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: season they had, after the reunion that they had, that
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Lisa has been tapped as the one to go in
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: and represent Salt Lake City.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: In a 20th year. Oh, my God.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Ultimate girls trip with all of the OG main girls
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: that they all watched.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Specifically Heather. Specifically Heather.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Specifically Heather because Heather is a fan first. And we
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: can never forget that.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Never forget. But you know what? You know who pretty
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: much started Salt Lake City? Lisa is like the Kyle
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: of that city. I think she's the one. Who had
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: the connections, who they went to first. Darlings, correct me
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: if I'm wrong, but I'm almost positive. I have heard
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Lisa say this numerous times that, like, I'm the one
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: that they started with. I'm the one who suggested. And
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: then it was like, I think she suggested Whitney and
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: maybe Whitney and the connection with Heather because they're cousins.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: And Lisa referred Meredith. Like, I think that it all
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: stems from Lisa. Yeah. And Lisa's the one with the clout.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: She's the one with the Sundance and the celebrity this
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: and that. And not only that, but she was on
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: another show. Don't know what it was. It was a
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: reality show from a while back. It could have been
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: like a real estate show. I don't know. But Lisa...
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Or a housewife show, but she showed up on another
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: housewife show as a cameo.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Was it with Kyle?
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: That was like the Salt Lake City. And the Hamptons? Well,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: this was....
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm thinking you're talking about a more recent show
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: where her.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: It was the Salt Lake City real estate show. Oh, right. No,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I think I'm mixing them. We did recap that. I'm
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: mixing them. We did.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: I'm mixing them, but you know what? It was before
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Salt Lake City was even a real housewife show. Lisa
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: showed up on... Someone else's show. And I don't know
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: what it was. So she was on the map. She
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: was on the map.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: It makes sense.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: It really does.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: It makes sense that she was the Jill Zarin of
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: Salt Lake City.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Yes. Allie's here. Surprise.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: But, you know, I think Heather genuinely feels it should
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: be her.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: And you know what? She's not 100% wrong. Like in
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: a world. I get that it should be her. Heather
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: is very much a centerpiece. She is very much the narrator.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: She's like a Bethany of the show. She's like a Kyle.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, she's her own person, but she is like
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: kind of a real main hub of everybody. So I
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: get why Heather's got a chapped ass. But it still
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be her. It should still be Lisa.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: I am open to it being whomever. I mean, like,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: it's a new show. That's the interesting thing, is that
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: it almost doesn't have enough years under its belt to... Well,
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: I guess it does. But, you know, there's a world
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: in which Salt Lake City wouldn't even be on this
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: show because we don't have enough.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: History with it.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: But all in... Like they maligned her at the white
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: party and they are, and Heather, the way she came
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: for her and was, I'm going to use the word bullying,
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: even though it's too strong, you know, right off the
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: bat about her not doing enough and giving, I mean,
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: we just said the same thing, but it was.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Just such a strong, she wants to make her look stupid. Yeah.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: And she was like, there are no cameras on us
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: right now. Like, what's the big deal? I mean, do
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: you think that that was real? I mean, it seemed
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: like it was real, right? That conversation, the hot mic moment? Yeah,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: to greet somebody like, looks like you phoned it in again.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, it is immediate fighting words, but. When you're
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: not in good standing. But she has a point. Lisa
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: phoned it in, Deanna. I understand that. I mean, we've
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: just said this is the truth, right?
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: That is fine. But you know what, Heather? You're not
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: on this show. You're coming in as a guest. So
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: we don't really care what you have to say about
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: what Lisa is like. It's just so blatant that she
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: wants these icons to think poorly of Lisa and they're
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: going to do whatever they can. Meanwhile, Lisa has they
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: have no idea the time of her her life she's
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: been having and the fact that everyone loves her.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Right. Everyone is riding hard for her. She literally was
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: laughing until she cried, like in her confessional about how
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: horrible her city is. Right.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: And, you know, our friend Christopher DeRosa, he produced Ultimate
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Girls Trip. And I was asking him many months ago
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: who he loved the most.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: He said Lisa, and I was like, excuse me? What
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: are you saying? Wow. It didn't make sense. Wow. That's amazing.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: It's shocking. It's shocking.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: But I'm seeing a new color to her. We all are.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: The color is black.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I guess it's the.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: Absence of color.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: You're seeing a new absence of color. I don't know.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: I don't think this is going to work out.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Is there truth in numbers? Because it's like Bronwyn is
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: going is like unhappy with her. Heather, who was with
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Bronwyn at the white party standing there? Oh, Whitney. Yeah.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: They're all so upset. You know, who can we trust? Well,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: this is great. I love the hot mic moment. And
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: I love seeing Kyle be very supportive of Lisa and
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: saying like whispering like they're dead to me because Kyle
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: is such a girl's girl. She always has been. So
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: for her to say that about the other housewives, you know,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: typically she can keep an open mind. But she was like, no,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: I'm going to ride hard for you right now.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's the effect of like what Lisa has.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: She's trying the socks off of them. And they don't like,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: they don't, I mean, I'm, I'm going, I'm thinking about
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Kyle right now. And when the other slam of the episode,
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: which took my breath away, I went, Oh my God.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: When Kyle looked over and said, is that the girl
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: referring to Ashley?
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Oh. Is that the girl? Whoa. Like, she doesn't even
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: have a name. She's not even on the same network
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: as she is. Whoa.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: You know, and Ashley's been there for quite some time.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: And I think Kyle has a sense of who's who.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Is that the girl?
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Is that the girl took my.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Wow. I didn't even like catch that, honestly. I didn't
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: even catch that she said the girl. I remember her
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: saying like, is that her or whatever? But like the
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: fact that she said, is that the girl? I think
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: she compartmentalized it. the Mauricio stable of girls and they
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: are nameless and they are faceless and they have. Okay. Yeah.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: I like it. And you have to kind of, that's girl,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: you know? That's just a girl. That could be any girl.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: You're any girl.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: Yikes.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Like she may have been Ashley prior, but once she
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: did what she did, now you're a girl.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: She did what she did.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: What happened?
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: I'll say. Did you, I mean, I really did feel
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: like Ashley gave her an apology. She gave her what
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: she gave her, which I thought was fine. And it
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: was like, I wouldn't ever want someone to try to
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: go for my ex-husband. And that wasn't my intention. And
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Stacey was sort of forcing my hand. And I think
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: she could have given a little more. Like we got
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: caught up in the joke of it. And it was
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: probably insensitive to do to one of my Bravo sisters.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: You know, I think that she could have been a
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: little softer with her. Apology, but I honestly can't tell if.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: She was just so much in character of Ashley T.O.P.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: that she couldn't be like an authentic, like a more
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: gentle Ashley. Like, I don't know. She couldn't like shake
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: her character because she was in her care. She was
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: like biting her, you know, her lip and like she
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: was just in it, you know. Well, I have to
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: mention a couple other pieces of shade now that we have,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: you know, Kyle mentioning that to Ashley and, you know,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: they had their thing. That's fine. But, you know. Giselle really,
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, her mentioning Candace was like about as ice
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: cold as it gets. You know, she hasn't seen her
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: since they filmed together.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: And it has been such a, listen, that had gotten,
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: that had reached a level of toxicity as the audience
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: where someone had to go, you know, because it wasn't fun.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And that was the most obvious one to go. Exactly.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Exactly. Like Giselle is a workhorse.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. She got right in there. at the
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: dinner with Nini and was like, I've, you know, she's,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: I've always given her flowers, but she said some things
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: about her. And then she was like, hey, Nini, like immediately.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: And Portia's like, Giselle is doing what she does. And
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: it's amazing to hear. It's great to hear Portia be like,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: there goes Giselle. You know? I know. That they ran
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: into each other, Karen and Nini in Beverly Hills, and
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: that Nini was like, beat up Giselle. So, I mean.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: It was it was funny. This turned out to be very,
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: very cute moment. Yes.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: And I mean, I was like, can Nene have a
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: drink in an app first, please? Oh, my God.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Jesus H. That happened right before she had Neone come out. Like, right.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think. And by the way, him coming out,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: it was like, come on down. I mean, he just
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: had his own thing. legit entrance. I thought it was like,
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: is Andy Cohen introducing him or are we at a reunion?
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: He came out from the stage and there he was.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. He's got some sex appeal, that guy.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: You know, first of all, Vicky's reaction was everything.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Oh my God.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: I loved how we got to see everyone's adoration for Nene.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Hmm. Yeah.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: Did you not love that?
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Oh God.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Going back to the, when she entered the surprise
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: at the drag brunch, that was amazing. I loved how
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Kyle ran up there again. So cool to hear about
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: their history together. No, that was Kyle's like first housewife friend.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. I love it.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: He clearly loves Nene and, Teresa, Lou.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: You know, it just, that was great. That was so great.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: So much fun. And yeah, Nini and her man have
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: had beautiful entrances into this program.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. Nini coming out on the stage. Like
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: it's so good. That was so good. It was so,
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: such a soft landing into a bunch of warm and
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: welcoming housewives. And of course Giselle took it right into,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: you know, business and working, but like, You know, even
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: like just talking about Greg and Vicky was like, he
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: loved you so much. You could see, I saw it.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: I saw it for my own self. And everybody was
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: so supportive. It felt so deserving. And it really felt
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: like the gang's back together. It really scratched an itch
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: that I think all of us have been wanting to
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: see happen, which is like resolution for Nene and just
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: being like back in, in a good way.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: Well, that's the whole thing is like sometimes time is
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: the best thing that could ever happen. She, I think,
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: has gone through every step of grief from this process
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: of housewives.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: She's, you know, had.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: Legal problems with Bravo. She's been hurt. And the time
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: that has passed and having this moment, and thank God
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: she said yes to it. Because you have to also
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: know your moment to come back. And she may not
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: do another thing. But this, looking beautiful, I'm like, I
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: think we need Facetunes way too much online because I
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: thought she looked gorgeous. And the last few times I've
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: seen her, I've been like, you know, because I think, like,
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: her nose looked beautiful. Nothing looked beautiful.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like her social media. Like, her social
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: media always looks weird to me with the face tuning.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, so many of these housewives do it. Like,
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Adrienne Maloof and NeNe are up there. Like, there's so many.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Kathy Hilton, you know, but like, she did not look
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: like she does. And I was very glad about that. No,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: she looked beautiful.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: She felt queenly, calm. Even the way she handled Giselle,
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: she took a beat. You know, she was able to
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: address it, recover it.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Nice beat. Nice beat. Only a seasoned housewife can come
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: in after not being there for many, many years around
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: housewives that she doesn't normally work with and just take
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: the ball that's given to her and just dribble it,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: dribble it, get ready, walk on back, walk on over
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: to that three-point line, you know, and just being like, oh,
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: thank you for the ball. I'm going over here. going
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: over here and I'm going to go over to the side,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: you know, and that's just going to do a three
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: pointer from the back line in the center. No, I'm
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: going to the right and just, you know? Yeah.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: And then Giselle's cuddling with her and they're laughing and
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: it's perfect.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: It's perfection. It was great.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: So I just felt so, I was emotional with the
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Greg package and talking about Greg. Yeah.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: That was, that was really, that was touching. Very touching.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: And just the history that these ladies have together. And
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: first of all, Vicky can't fake anything for love or money.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: So her– Vicky, because she's been such a pill with
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: an orange up her ass this entire time, her ability–
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: her genuine feelings about seeing Nene and, like, were just
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: pure because she can't be anything else, you know? Mm-hmm.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: I just loved everything about it.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: It made me emotional.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: It's making me emotional right now. And no, cause it's just,
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: it was perfect.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. It was great. The montages that they deliver
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: on this show are worthy of a bucket of tears,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: just like you're saying, because where we've been and where
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: they are, it is, it's like, it's a retrospective every week.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: And it's not to be taken lightly. And I think
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: that your heart is in the room. Oh, Deanna, I
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: love you getting emotional. No, don't mind me.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know why I'm getting emotional. It just, listen,
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: I like when things are perfect.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. You know?
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: And I think everything lined up for this moment, for
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: NeNe to have this moment and to come in like
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: she did. Yeah. And even with her gorgeous man who
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: caused a stir, she was seated perfectly.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: They were all, none of them got up, which I loved.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: And he just went around the table, duck, duck, duck, duck, goose,
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: and he's out, you know? That scarf. Oh, my God.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: He's a darling. Look at this. He's such a darling.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: He smells so good.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: He's such a darling. No, Vicky, she needs man. You know,
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: she needs man.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: She needs man.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: She's a freak in the sheets. We know it. We
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: love it. She, as most of these Christians are that
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: protest too much, they are nasty girls.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: And I think.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: just him getting this, I don't, whoever you are, sir,
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: you know, they've been together a while. Nini was completely
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: at ease.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: He came in and did his tour of duty and it.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Just, he did a roundabout around like his own little
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: parade and then left. They were, yeah, they were seamless.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It was wonderful. It was.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: And, you know, it's not the end. Phaedra was great
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: to see. Though we've seen a lot of her lately,
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: but her just being like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: dirty Phaedra is like the best. She's like, eh, eh.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Like just pelvic thrusting in her outfit. She is so funny. Oh,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: my God.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: I'm really happy they addressed her drag queen because that
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: was just.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Jokes, too. Oh, my God. That was hilarious. Yeah, the pink. Yeah.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Which I thought the drag queen that I thought was
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: the best was Lou because it's like you're always going
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: to nail it because all you have to do is
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: put on some sequins and a fedora and, like, you're done.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: And so I just felt like they did a great job.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: But anyway, all right. Well, more to come next week.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: And let's head on over to Next Gen. Next Gen.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: just some broad strokes. I mean, first of all, a
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: ski trip is, oh man, is this what I want? Like,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: I am so happy that we can watch a younger
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: generation go on a ski trip. There's nothing I love
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: more than going to a colder climate. That's why I
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: love Salt Lake City. You know, I love when they
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: go and they do whatever they do, ice fishing or
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: what have you, and skiing. So this is great. Love
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: that they're in a cabin of sorts and that we've
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: got a couple people who do know how to ski
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: and some are just trying to figure it out. Love
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: it that they're doing the, what do you call it? The,
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: oh my God, snowboarding. Boy, oh boy. You know, this
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: perimenopause is really bad. I don't know what I'm going
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: to do, but my brain is like mush all the time. Okay. Anyway,
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: we'll get back at it. So Some people are learning
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: how to snowboard. Great. And let's just head on over
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: because let's go up to this cabin where they're, for the,
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Jesus Christ.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: Stunning.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: What a cabin. Wyndham ski trip. Excellent. And we get,
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: you know, there's some stuff about the rooms. Lucky for
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: Liam and Ariana that they're going to get their own room.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: Wow. Okay. Okay.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: That's a big step on a trip. Big.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: You know, we're doing huge steps and then it seems
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: like no steps. You know, it's weird.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. You're talking about when she was like,
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: I am not your girlfriend. I don't even know you. Yeah,
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: they're like, you should get in there. Dying. No, it's– yeah.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: And then he's like, I love you in the 530
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: in the morning. What are you doing with Charlie? That's like,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: you got to go to bed. You know, you got
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: to know when to shut it down. You guys are
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: all up too late. Go to go night nights.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That was really bad. You know, I, we have
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: got to talk about that dinner that night though, because
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: it's like, you know, obviously the elephant in the room
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: is like, Ariana went over to your house at 1am
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: and she's like, fine. If y'all need to know, I
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: went to go smoke a joint with my gals and
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: that's no big deal. And like Liam has my location.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: That's also like a wow. Well, that's what I'm saying.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: But the youths do have more steps. Just FYI.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they have more steps. They are really loose about
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: those locations.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, my sister tried to get my location
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: off me and I said no.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Really? Really.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't want her.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't either. I don't want. No.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: She loves to have location. She's like Sheena.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: She loves to have everyone's location. But what is it
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: about that? Like, I don't really understand it. Do all of,
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: you know, as the host of the podcast and Substack,
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: how to be less old, like, can you at least
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: just give me an understanding as to are all of
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: the youths sharing their locations just willy nilly? Because that's
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: the vibe that I start, I'm getting from all these shows.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: Well, I do think a lot, I think it's more
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: of way more of a thing. And of course it
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: causes tons of problems because, um, people are being left out,
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: but also it's not always being left out. It's like
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: two people can hang out together and that's okay. You know?
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. People aren't mature enough to handle holding people's locations.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: That's too much. Social media is too much and location
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: takes it to another step.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: It does.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: It absolutely does.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: And you know, there is the seeing each other step,
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: Then the, like, it's like what we see, it is
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: what we saw in Love Island. There's the seeing each other.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: Then you get, like, locked off. But you're still not
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: boyfriend and girlfriend. And then there's some sort of ceremony
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: in general where when, to become boyfriend and girlfriend, you, like,
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: the guy takes, in a heterosexual relationship, the guy's going
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: to take the girl to, like, a dinner.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: And.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: make it official, boyfriend and girlfriend. Like just one date
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: because they all start with just hanging out. Like there's
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: never dates. So to make it official is at the
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: back end of things.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Got it. The date is at the back end of things.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: But there's, for the girls, you know, if you're in
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: the mood to be in a relationship and you kind
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: of want to wait to have sex till you're in
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: that relationship, there's a lot of stages to get to.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: And then you start feeling like, well, if I don't,
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: you know, have sex in the locked off stage, will
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: I ever make it to the, you know what I'm saying?
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Like, it's just a lot.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: And so I think this is exactly right for what
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: it is. But Liam is looking to be in a relationship,
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: you know, very much so. He's trying to skip steps.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I was shocked to hear that. Ariana say
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: that she is totally into Liam and she doesn't want
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: the next girl to get him. And she is like
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: all about him. Honestly, I did not know that she
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: felt that strongly about him. I really didn't. That was
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: a shocker to me. Did you?
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: I was not shocked. But what I did think was
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: all of that is true. And she's just out of
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: a very long term relationship and she doesn't want Liam.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: To be exclusive.
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: I think both of those things are combating each other
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: That's going to be difficult because this is a transitional
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: relationship for her that I think she probably is aware of,
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: which is why she has her boundaries up in terms
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: of like defining it. But she also wants to have
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: her cake and eat it too, which is to try
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: to lightly lock him down so that when she is ready,
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: she'll be able to have him, which I think is
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: very interesting.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: And this Charlie, it's hard to say how much, I
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: think he's talking mostly shit and like he's wanting the drama.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: He's a shock jock, you know? I'll F your girl
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: if I want to. And then what this comment that
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: he made about like, let's stop slut shaming Ariana and,
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: you know, like move this along. That was a really
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: weird thing to say because no one was doing that.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: And then he put words on it as if that's
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: what they were doing, which he was acting like he
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: was sticking up for her, but he actually slammed her
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: down by putting that on the table, which wasn't on
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: the table. And I'm glad that Ariana was angry about it. Weird.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Weird choice of words. Weird choice of words.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: Well, he's someone who, he has tremendous resistance to boundaries.
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: He does not I mean, it's literally like his.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Whole life is... Is breaking boundaries.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: He doesn't... He will do anything to not have one
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: set on him. And so... Interesting. That's why, like, him,
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: you know, being friends with George's ex, starting business with him,
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: you know, this is not about that guy.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: He.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: Being friends with Ariana's ex... Hudson, yeah.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Listen, you know, I'm a Hudson head. You know, I,
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: I feel bad. He's not on the show. I, I do.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: I feel bad that he's not on the show anymore.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: I think he's, I liked him on the show. I
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: hope he comes back. All right. That's just my Hudson corner.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: I would love you to maybe make a little tick
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: talk about that and see if you have any other
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: Hudson heads unite, because I can't imagine there's anyone but you,
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: but then again, probably maybe there are, you know, it's okay.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: I don't need to reach out. I, I'm fine on
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: my own. But also, but I'm becoming a Kendall head
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: because she is like that. She's like a crash test dummy.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: You know, she's just sitting there. I think it was
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: Charlie that said that she has no animation to her.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: And it's funny. Now I'm enjoying that we've called it out.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: We are acknowledging it. So let's lean into that comedy
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: and see where we go, because I think there's going
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: to be some comedy with it.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: You know, she's not bothering anyone, but like she's certainly there.
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's almost like having like a little garnish
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: on the plate that just sits there and it doesn't
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: mess the meal up. It doesn't change the flavor.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: It just is. It's there. Right. You can take it
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: or leave it and it's just going to be on
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: the top or on the side.
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: I keep wondering if production has her there because they
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: are of the opinion that she is deeply in love
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: with Liam.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: And I know we've squashed that. Yeah, it might still
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: be true.
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: Although I don't think he has any feelings for her.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: I don't get any vibes.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: I mean. No, I mean, look who he's going after.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: He's going after Ariana, who's like got personality for days.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's more his type. It would
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: be kind of the opposite. I think. sometimes people who
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: have big personalities need someone who don't have big personalities
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: at all so that they can just be absorbed by
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: somebody at all times. And that's probably what it is.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: That's a great point. Like she, right, be absorbed. Like
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: she can take him in and she's there. She knows
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: his fireman schedule. She knows when his shooting schedule is.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: She knows when he's doing his ski instructor, Mr. Hollywood.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, it's a lot of, You can take it
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: all in.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: There's not much to push back on. So it's like
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: it's all good.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: I do get the sense the girls really like her, though.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: And genuinely, you know. So, yeah, maybe she'll pop out
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: one day, you know.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: There, you know, I like people who are like kind
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: of a quiet force. They're just kind of there. Maybe
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: that's just what it is. Like she just. She's growing
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: on everybody because she's around and she's not causing any
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: problems and she's just kind.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's definitely not threatening anyone and their jobs, you know, so.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: And she's not even doing what she was told to do,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: which is to go back to Liam and tell him
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: about the Charlie thing and rustle some feathers.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: She's very careful, which is a quality we don't love
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: in a reality star, you know.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: Right, right.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: She's doing her own, you know, R & D, which
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: we don't love. You know, we'd rather you light the
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: match and toss it.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Yes. Now, let me just shed a little spotlight on
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: Brooks Mark's socks on the ski trip, which he was
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: very excited about. Happy to see he has a line
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: of socks. I'm interested. And he finally got this gaggle
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: of people in his terrycloth sweatsuits.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: To walk across a busy New York street for a
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: photo shoot.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: And a mess bike passenger will not stop. You guys
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: keep walking. Just keep walking. Ow, you ran me over.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Just keep walking.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: These terrycloth jumpsuits are sweatsuits. They look very cultish. You know,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: it's giving part of a cult.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's giving like Waco vibes. Yes.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: It's giving Waco. And, you know, I don't know that
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: anyone needed or asked for a lightweight terry cloth. You know,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: that's the other thing.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: Well, I beg you to differ, Deanna. As a matter
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: of fact, when we're summering, that's all anybody who talks
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: about is lightweight sweatsuits.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: Listen, I'm open to that. Like, I thought, okay, a
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: lightweight terrycloth. And then I thought, oh, I do understand
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: that it did fall apart because it does need to
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: have more to it the first round.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, right. The first round fell apart.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: First round fell apart.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: And now we're in it.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, God, it is so– we're not breaking
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: it up with any kind of embellishments or, you know, cinching.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: No cuffs. No cuffs. No, like, stripes on the side.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's so just, yeah.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: You know what, to be honest, it's Kanye West, but
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: it's also Home Shopping Network. Oh my God, Amy. You know,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: it's like, this is the sweatsuit that you want, ladies.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: I am talking spring into summer, summer into fall. This
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: is the time, the transitional time when we don't know
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: what to put on ourselves and we are running around,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: we're doing errands. We're doing drop-off pickup. You got to
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: pick up the kids. You got to take them to camp.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: You want to make some lemonade. You got to cook.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: This is it. You can throw this on. You zip
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: it up. You take it off. If you get too hot,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: it's never going to be too hot because it's terrycloth.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: It's lightweight. It's practically falling apart.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: And if you have a spill, you take off the top,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: you wipe it up, and you wring it out. Very absorbent.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: It comes in a bunch of different colors. We have
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: a mustard yellow. We have a dusty gray. We have
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: a peach essence.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: I was wearing the wine burgundy and I went out,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: my husband was washing the SUV. And as a matter
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: of fact, It was all rinsed off. And he said,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: I am out of chamois. And I said, let me
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: help you out. And I just shook my tuchus right
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: over that. And I waxed and waned. And my husband
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: was so proud of me. And let me tell you what,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: we ended up having some sexy time.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, now that's something that a, you know, champion sweatshirt
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: is not going to do.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: No, no. Yeah.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: Well, there you go.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: So there's that.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: And it's like the rub of it all is that
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: like shyness.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: Clothes are really cool. And even his shirt that he
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: was wearing, I thought looked great on him. It's like
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: shy actually has something cutting edge and cool. Maybe not
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: cutting edge, but like I'm, if I would, I would
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: invest in shy, you know, and we're giving Brooks the,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: the treatment, you know.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: The platform he was there first. He's got the name.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: He's got the attitude. You know, and he's got the
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: sketches and he's got the connections. But like it's sometimes
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: you can have all that. And then you got this
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: shy over here and he he's doing what he's doing
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: from the ground floor up. You know, he's like building
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: from nothing and making a name for himself. He's literally
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: taking scraps and making art. So I guess we'll see.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: You know, I want a little crystal ball to look
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: into the future and see who's thriving because I did
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: think the original Brooks Marks sweatsuit, which.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Did, I believe, have a stripe, was cool. Yeah, we
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: all went bananas for it. We went like literally nuts
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: for that.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: I'm worried about this line. I got to be honest
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: with you.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: I am very worried about it. I don't know who
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: would look good in that unless you're stick thin. And
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: even then.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: And even then it's just.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: It looks like, okay, I have to go to the
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: hospital and have surgery today. Yeah.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: And like just in case something happens on the way
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: and they need to cut my clothes off.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: They need to be easy. I'm going to wear this.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: No friction. Because I don't care about this. And it'll
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: be easy to cut through.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And I guess just like throwing Brooks marks on everything.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: Like the socks did give me a lift.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: The socks did. Because it's doing less. And it's.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was kind of like a kitschy thing to do,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: and that's where he needs to land. He can't shoot
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: that high, you know? Do a fanny pack. Do some socks.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: You've got your sweatsuit already. Like, don't do another sweatsuit
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: because we just saw what happened. But, like, you know.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he should be creating fabrications that
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: don't exist.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: I think that is, you know, such a swing.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: Like use the fabrications that are with us or, you know,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: young man, you know, just don't like, cause you're all
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: your energy is to create a lightweight terry cloth that
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: doesn't rip and can get more than six washes out
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: of it. Well, you've spent all your time doing that
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: and the actual item doesn't look great.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: I wonder how that photo shoot turned out. We'll have
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: to see. Deanna Chang, thank you for joining us today. Wow. Darlings,
• 1:08:29
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