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Episode 12: Nurgle, the God of Plague · The Bad Moon's Orbit

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  Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Bad
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  Moon's Orbit. I am, as always, your rock
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  bringer sorcerer Dalton Montgomery.
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  And I'm Darien smart and I'm pretty sure Warhammer is the
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  special tool you use to repair your war deck.
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  If my new and improved intro title didn't tip you off, today
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  we are going to be talking about the third of the Chaos Gods, the
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  Benevolent, supposedly and pestilent Nergal.
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  Yeah, God of disease. Neat.
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  I hope you're vaccinated. He hates that.
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  Yeah. So we we talked about Cornyn's
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  zinch in the previous episodes, how they emerged into the
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  realms, especially with like the coming of the ever chosen.
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  Chaos is just finding its way in, much to Sigmar's chagrin,
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  much to all of his preparation and whatnot, as.
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  Soon as they get in, he hears about this right?
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  Oh yes, this. Is like.
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  I'll, I'll, yeah. That's subtle news.
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  This is a big. Event, no, all, all these like
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  kind of big emergencies are happening within a couple of
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  days of each other. It's it's kind of like, yeah,
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  the the the pressure gives and just kind of everything starts
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  coming in and it's not the end of it when cast starts coming
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  in. Like obviously Sigmar would have
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  preferred if they never found the place or never found an
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  entrance. But now that they're here, like
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  Sigmar is gathering soldiers. He is gathering troops, he is
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  calling in his like alliances and he is marching to try and
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  drive them back out. But that all that takes time.
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  And so this is all kind of like how they are getting in and what
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  they're doing in the lead up to like direct clash with Sigmar
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  and his allies. So.
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  Yeah, corn and Oh yes. Do you have the gaming thing you
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  want to talk about? Oh gosh, yes, I always forgot
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  our fun warm up. I'm going to bend our thing a
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  little bit because we we normally don't talk about like
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  an Age of Sigmar thing and it's also not quite a rules thing,
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  but I just cannot stop gushing about the new Age of Sigmar core
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  rule book did not date this episode.
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  Yeah, it's true. It's true.
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  It's so good. It's so good.
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  If you, dear listener, are not super familiar with H Sigmar law
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  or even if you are, I highly recommend the the new core rule
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  book. Big chunks of it can be found
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  just on like games workshops on website.
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  All of it is written from the perspective of people on the
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  ground, people who actually live in the setting.
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  It's a big departure from their usual kind of bird's eye view,
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  telling of the history of the world and just the voices that
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  they give to some of these characters.
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  The like lived experiences that they give to these characters
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  and seeing them contrast with like the big picture and with
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  each other, it's just awesome. The the person they have in the
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  book to represent Shayish has fully drank the kool-aid and is
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  like on Nagash's side and dislikes Sigmar.
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  And so you get the perspective of someone who distrusts Sigmar
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  and does not think he's the right way forward for like,
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  humanity, right? I like that.
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  But yeah, that's my thing. Do you have something you like
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  to share? Yeah, I got.
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  I went to a gaming convention this past.
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  Week. Yeah, Gym State Gaming Con.
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  It was a good time at a venue that exists.
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  Hell yeah. But there I went specifically to
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  put on a panel for one of the other podcasts I do use the
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  mythology and we put on a fun event that a fun panel that was
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  Battle of the gaming Gods. And so we just put head to head
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  various deities who appear in tabletop gaming and video games.
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  And some of them are like adaptations of real world
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  deities, like Balder from Baltimore games or Knicks from
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  Hades, Right. And then other times we would
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  just pull ones that were invented for their property.
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  So we had like, the Raven Queen from D&D.
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  Hell, yeah. Some people from Final Fantasy
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  whose name escapes me. Lots of characters from Smite.
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  And of course, oh, Smite's the the, the former one.
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  But, and of course, I had to bring clearly Sigmar.
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  Hell yeah. And Dalton, you aren't able to
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  attend this one. Which I wasn't.
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  But I wanted to tell you about it.
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  I wanted to tell you about it. I wanted to know that Sigmar
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  made it all the way to the semifinals.
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  Hell yeah. 16 and I paired the brackets up and they all had
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  good names that I'm very proud of myself.
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  And Sigmar was in the one bracket that I called like the
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  the old guard or I think they're called them Titans of industry.
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  And it was Sigmar versus TMN and.
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  Dragons. And he soundly beat TMN and our
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  we had the way we were determining winner was based on
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  how well we think they are used as a deity within their
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  narrative. Not like how are they adapted or
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  are they who's the best God? Like they're this character is
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  meant to be a God within the narrative and how much does that
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  actually? Mean.
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  I like that a lot. And versus who has the better
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  style? Right.
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  Because these are visual design. So obviously if you're going to
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  design A deity, why not make him look great, right?
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  So Sidmar made it all the way to the finals to face off against
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  Nix from Haiti. Yeah, I mean that, yeah.
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  Listen, it came really close it, but we need to go voted to the
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  audience nice. And they're the ones that
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  decided on Nix. Hey, honestly, I'm I love Knicks
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  is great the. Knicks is great like Knicks kind
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  of sweat. Yes, like.
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  It was not even a contest, but like, listen.
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  My girlfriend Kelsey was really rooting for Sygmar though.
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  So I appreciate that I. Was like, he does this isn't
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  like, you know, but he's also a kind of a call, imperialist
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  call. Yeah, yeah.
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  Never. Mind, I'm voting for Knicks.
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  Yeah, that is a completely accurate assessment.
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  We like Sigmar, but he's got, you know, he's a problematic
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  favorite. It's fun, yeah.
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  I love goth moms so. Yes, but yeah, that sounds
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  lovely. I'm sorry I missed it.
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  I look forward to catching something somewhere.
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  Yeah. So today we're going to be
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  talking about Nergal, his disease, his life, his growth.
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  One of the things I want to emphasize, like right at the top
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  of the episode. Well, actually right at the top
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  of the episode, I would do want to give.
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  We have talked about, like, violence and other kind of like
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  unsavory topics before on this podcast.
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  I'm going to go out of my way to make a special, like, content
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  warning for this episode. It's going to get gross, fam.
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  There's just kind of no way to get around that.
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  Yeah. So if, if like body horror
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  stuff, illness stuff, tryptophobia, maybe take this
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  one under consideration. Yeah, I think.
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  We'll probably have a full list of topics, yes in the show notes
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  that may absolutely read that. And you know, you can assess
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  where your own state is AT and take care of yourself first.
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  Absolutely, Absolutely. Should I look at the?
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  Yeah, I think the first visual aid is just like a general
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  picture of Nergal. It is and I didn't give my
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  comment on it cuz I wanted to it till the mic was on.
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  He looks like the great Horned King from Black Cauldron.
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  Yeah, he gets that a lot. He.
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  Just also if Venom was there, yeah, cuz it's the horned head
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  is coming out of what looks like a Venom mouth that's also going
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  straight. It's like, it's like a very
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  grotesque Guinum design. Yeah, absolutely.
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  I would 100%. It's almost like BLOB got
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  vandemized. A little bit.
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  Yeah, Nergal. So you might be wondering, dear
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  listener, because we talked a lot about kind of the ephemeral
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  nature of Corn and Zinch in their respective episodes, like
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  how there's not really a picture of what either of those two
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  entities look like properly. Corn emanates bigness is kind of
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  part of his thing, but Zinch definitely has no fixed
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  appearance because treachery and change and all that from
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  anywhere. Exactly.
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  Nergal is almost unique amongst the Chaos Gods and that he does
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  have a fixed appearance. Yeah, exactly.
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  Yeah, exactly. Nergal is the direct rival to
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  Zinch. He is the God of stagnation.
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  And so he alone amongst the Chaos Gods has a fixed
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  appearance, has all of a bunch of Nergal's demons look like
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  him, because again, that's a continuation of that stagnation
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  thing. Shaking it up.
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  Yes, absolutely. But yeah, Nergal.
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  Hates bottles that say shake before opening.
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  Yes. He doesn't.
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  He just opens it and drinks it as is.
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  Yes. He's a stir man as he can.
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  He's he is. He is stirring his big cauldron.
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  Yeah, Which? Is how you should prepare a
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  martini. If you shake it, the ice is
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  gonna melt more quickly and that's gonna make it less
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  alcoholic. Yeah, useful for if you're
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  writing. There you go, There's your
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  Arthur Conan Doyle. No, that's Sherlock Holmes.
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  James Bond is an. Author yes, but I and some
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  people argue like that's stupid. He doesn't know how to pair pair
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  a drink. And I'm like, no, he's a secret
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  agent, right? He needs to order a drink to
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  blend in, but he can't be getting like tipsy and buzz
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  right now. He's working.
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  This is a strategy. Yes.
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  I assume or maybe it's not. Yeah.
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  Or maybe it's just a coincidence.
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  Yeah. I think it depends on whether or
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  not whoever wrote that line originally knew.
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  That. Yeah, exactly.
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  Or was just trying to be quirky different.
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  Yeah, but it does if it's was a digital actually pretty smart.
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  Yeah, 100% but. That's what we're talking about
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  here. We're talking about this guy.
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  Yeah, our big buddy Nergal. Nergal, as we mentioned a little
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  bit last episode, is often regarded as the most like
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  affable of the chaos gods. Chaos gods are not, by their
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  nature, good. The The core fundamental trait
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  of what it is to be a Chaos God is to take something broadly
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  neutral and make it its worst version of itself.
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  Nerval looks like the kind of person who likes to give hugs,
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  but he will approach you by saying where my hug at?
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  Yes, Yep. That's the.
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  Energy I'm getting Nerval's not a big yeah.
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  I mean, Nergal's the God of disease.
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  He's not a big like asking to touch you.
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  Yes, just. Yeah, it's like, oh, hugs are
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  great, but hey, where's my hug? And I'm like, I don't know why
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  you think you get a hug automatically you throw into the
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  hugging. His most common epitaph?
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  Nergl's followers refer to him as Grandfather Nergl.
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  That is the energy he gives up. He's just the kindly old man
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  who's a little bit too stinky and he's got a Werther's
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  Original that's been in his pocket for decades and he is
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  going to try and give it to you. Thank you.
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  It's sticky. It was definitely sucked on by
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  someone. Else absolutely it was Nergal
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  and he. Thought bored and forgot about.
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  It Yep but yeah whereas Korn and Zinch entered the world through
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  very specific acts yeah yeah, yeah, absolutely Nergal doesn't
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  Nergal. So during this time everyone's
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  kind of doing their own thing we talked about how when Alario the
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  guys of nature joined Sigmar's pantheon she basically gave a
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  broad like yeah, I'll fight chaos when they show up but I
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  don't like your shtick like I don't want people coming in here
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  and building towers and logging cans all over Yeah absolutely
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  absolutely. She's like we're chill but I
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  don't want your thing in guy ram.
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  Basically, I'm going to oversee it.
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  I'm going to have it grow and spread and prosper.
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  And that's like my thing. And you can set up camps here if
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  you want, and we'll export food because I want everyone to be
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  comfortable and happy. Yeah, she's in her like
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  bountiful spring. Yeah, yes, she's in her spring
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  aspect. She's gross, she's joyful.
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  She's wanting to share that compassion as far and widespread
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  as she can. Each of the realms is extremely
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  massive. Ilarial is more connected to the
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  realm than most of the gods we've talked about.
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  Yeah, but even her control over Guy Ran isn't infinite, right?
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  Like, she has things that she prefers, things that she likes,
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  that she tries to influence upon it, but that is still a level of
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  control that she has to exert. And so as she spreads her
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  influence, as she spreads that kind of spring bountiful aspect
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  out across Guy Ran, her control wanes in the small details
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  spreads. Herself a little.
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  Thin. Yes, absolutely.
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  And where she spreads herself thin, she opens the door for
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  growth without her like fingerprints.
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  And on it, yes, she just opens the door to uncontained growth.
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  And in those spaces where that power is there, that force is
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  there. But the the fine detail of
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  Alario's kind of generous and bountiful like nature isn't
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  there to make its mark. That is where Nergal finds his
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  way into the realm. Nergal is also a God of growth.
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  Yeah. That makes sense.
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  Yeah, disease and spread spreading.
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  One of the things I want to talk about with Nergal, that is often
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  a point confusion for people is that while Nergal is the God of
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  stagnation, he's also the God of cycles, which is a form of
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  stagnation, right? Like you get up, you go to work,
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  you come home, you go to bed. You get up, you go to work, you
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  come home, you go to bed. That's a cycle.
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  But it's not not stagnation, right?
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  Just because. Something it happens doesn't
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  mean it's changing. Yes, exactly.
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  And so part of that cycle is that while Nergal, as they got
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  of growth, things cannot grow forever.
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  They have to, they have to go fallow, they have to decay, they
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  have to recede, and then they can grow again.
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  So as Ilarial's influence spreads too far, grows too thin,
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  Nergal finds his way into the realm and basically says, OK,
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  that's the end of that. Now it's time for it to decay.
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  Yes. To wane, to decay, to fall off,
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  basically. And what happens is out on the
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  very edges of Alario's control, out on the very edges of her
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  power over the realms, the people that live there both like
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  human and dwarf and Silvaneth her like nutri people.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  They start to contract diseases, damn it.
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  Yeah, Right. And not just normal diseases.
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  Nergal's special bone to supercharged diseases.
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  Yes, right. Nergal delights in the creation
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  of diseases. It is his favorite thing in the
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  whole world. Like mixing symptoms and like
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  spreading vectors and all that just brings him endless joy.
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  And so all of these horrifyingly debilitating diseases spring up
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  on the edges of Alario's control.
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  Yes. And they start to spread like
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  wildfire. I mean, yeah, cuz the realm is
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  in a state of growth. Like, yeah.
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  So everything's warm and yeah, spreading, yeah.
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  Yeah, 100% Scarlet fever. Nergl's rot, is the big one.
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  That's like Nergl's favorite disease that he used in the Old
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  World as well. It just decays your body.
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  It basically makes you. It just makes you die,
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  basically. Is that leprosy a little bit?
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  Yeah, it's definitely leprosy adjacent, OK.
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  Because it just makes your muscles, like, turn on
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  themselves, basically, and you wither and decay.
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  Yeah. Yep.
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  That's why part of why Nergal likes it.
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  No, yeah. Yeah, some of like disease is a
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  very broad concept for Nergal. So he's got things that we would
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  traditionally think of as diseases, but he also has stuff
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  like like insect infestations fall under Nergols dominion.
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  Yeah. So you'll get people who get.
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  Plague and pestilence. Yeah, absolutely.
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  You get people who wake up with insects that have laid eggs in
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  them. No.
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  Yep. Right.
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  I was gonna say we're gonna get Chris this episode.
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  Sorry about that. And that starts to push back
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  against Alario's force of growth and it it takes her a little bit
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  to like recognize, like her attention is spread very thin.
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  But by the time she is recognized, it is hard to
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  contain is already spreading out of control.
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  Nergal. One of the things that often
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  gets Nergal painted as a benevolent God is that one of
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  the most consistent ways to not quite save yourself from 1 of
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  Nergl's diseases, but definitely like mitigate 1 of Nergl's
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  diseases is to convert to Nergl worship.
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  I'm sorry, what? Yeah, people.
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  So worshippers of NERGL, they don't not contract disease.
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  In fact, they contract disease much easier, but they don't feel
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  the negative effects of those disease.
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  So it's just like the pain receptors get turned off.
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  Basically, OK, resiliency is a very strong like trait of Nergal
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  and Nergal's demons and Nergal worshippers.
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  And Nergal does seem to have like, genuine care towards his
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  followers. His grandfather Nergal, yeah, he
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  just wants to spread his diseases, like, and he's OK with
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  people being hurt by that, but he doesn't relish it.
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  He just wants everything. Well, it's a side effect of what
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  I'm doing. Yeah, it's going to happen.
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  Absolutely. So if you, if you, a civilian,
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  are overcome with the Nergal's rot or some other plague or
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  pestilence, and you call out for something to take away your
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  suffering, Nergal will. He'll take away your suffering.
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  You'll still have the rot, but you won't feel the negative
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  effects. Absolutely.
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  You will still be a vector for it, which is important, and you
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  will still have it, but you won't feel it.
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  And so that knowledge spreads pretty quickly around the places
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  in Garen overwhelmingly affected by Nergal's plagues.
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  And almost overnight you basically have these like chaos
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  cults to Nergal pop out out of nowhere, people who are crying
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  out for relief from. Yeah, yeah.
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  Do we not have healing magic in this place?
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  We do wait. Yeah, where's that Aquaphonics?
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  I was going to say Aquagoranis it.
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  Comes from here. It comes from here.
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  Yes. It's Goran's.
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  I said it was. Oh, yeah.
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  It is Goran's Realmstone. It's complicated.
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  A rock? Yeah.
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  It's not a rock. Aquagoranis is.
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  This Aquagoranis is like a distillation of Goran's actual
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  realmstone. So they are the same material.
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  But you do have to, like, process it to get Aquagoranis.
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  OK, but yeah, Ocho granis is around.
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  But nervals, diseases are resistant to it.
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  Of course they are. Yeah, mundane disease, Sure,
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  Ocho Granis will cure. You not a chaos disease.
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  Not a chaos disease. I can't say I blame the people
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  who are like, yeah, well, I'm suffering and.
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  Dying. Absolutely.
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  So absolutely. Yeah, yeah.
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  Yep, pustules and bubos and all that.
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  Where? You're at Your world has already
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  descended into chaos. What's a little more?
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  Absolutely. And you so you get these just
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  huge like basically chaos colonies of people who are.
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  Colony like a Petri dish. Yeah, absolutely.
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  Yeah. People who are pestilent, who
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  are spreading disease, travelers come through town, they pick it
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  up, they take it elsewhere. Quarantine.
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  Yeah. But locked down.
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  Part of worshipping Nergal is wanting to spread his disease as
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  well. So you cover yourself up in a
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  robe and you go to a new town and you say, oh, my town got
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  taken by the plague. Can I?
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  Or it got destroyed by marauders or whatever.
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  Right. Whatever story you need to get
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  in a new town. Yeah, absolutely.
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  That's fucked up. Yep.
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  I get it. You're working with a chaos God
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  now, so you do the chaos God thing, but that's where it's
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  like, OK, no, I'm done. I'm.
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  Not I'm done tolerating, right? I'm done empathizing with your
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  plights, right? But you're not suffering from
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  this disease. What if I mean this would reach
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  these people eventually? What if you just get ahead of
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  it? Show them how merciful Nergal
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  can be then. They can also not suffer.
• 20:20
  All they have to do is ask. Wolf, you can see why Nergal of
• 20:24
  any of them. Nergal attracted the most
• 20:26
  followers basically instantly. Yeah, no, that's a very quick,
• 20:29
  especially if you produce quick results.
• 20:31
  Yes, 100%. But even on the bounds of like
• 20:34
  normal healing magic, the kind of thing that like a lario would
• 20:38
  be able to just perform on somebody or the so enough would
• 20:40
  be able to perform on somebody. Yeah.
• 20:41
  The issue with that is that Ilarial's magic originates from
• 20:45
  life. And then while she can heal a
• 20:47
  wound and she can push back against like certain diseases
• 20:52
  and ailments and whatnot, Nergal's magic is also magic of
• 20:56
  life. So it's hard for I have in my
• 21:00
  notes here, Nergal is a bad matched opponent for Ilarial
• 21:03
  like intentionally, because you can't fight gross with gross.
• 21:07
  You can't heal by injecting a bacteria with more life, right?
• 21:11
  Because it's. Alive already.
• 21:13
  It's like in the The Mighty Thor run where Jane Foster was
• 21:19
  wielding the old mare. She's also simultaneously dying
• 21:22
  of pretty severe cancer, and while she's doing chemotherapy,
• 21:25
  it's not getting better because every time she picks up the
• 21:29
  hammer, it purges her bodies of all impurities.
• 21:31
  Like everything that would weaken her, that's not of her.
• 21:34
  It gets rid of it, right? But that includes the chemo,
• 21:38
  right? It doesn't include the cancer.
• 21:40
  Right, the cancer. Is a part of her body. 100%.
• 21:43
  And so yes, you can't just use that to heal because it can't do
• 21:47
  that. No, yeah, it it's just gonna
• 21:49
  further empower all this. Yeah, it's actually making the
• 21:52
  cancer stronger, which doesn't have the hammer to ward off the
• 21:54
  negative effects. Right.
• 21:56
  Crazy crazy with this. Is pretty well because I'm
• 22:00
  pretty sure she could've just called it like Doctor Strange
• 22:02
  or. Someone I was gonna say I feel
• 22:03
  like yeah. Why anyone in the Marvel
• 22:06
  Universe dies of like, diseases like that, right?
• 22:09
  Like. There are Wizards.
• 22:13
  The only person in Marvel who should have cancer is Wade, and
• 22:16
  that's. And that's because he's his
• 22:18
  thing is that. Yeah, yeah.
• 22:19
  It's because his superpower is cancer.
• 22:21
  It's fine. Yeah, it's, it's fine.
• 22:22
  It's super constant growth and healing growth.
• 22:24
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine. But like, I don't know why.
• 22:27
  Like when I fell off reading comics, Kamala Khan, miss
• 22:31
  Marvel's dad, just got diagnosed with like a What's the word for
• 22:36
  fatal? I think fatal.
• 22:39
  Yeah, but like. Inoperable, yeah.
• 22:42
  Yeah, bad terminal. Terminal.
• 22:44
  There you go. And I'm like, oh, yeah, that's
• 22:46
  pretty bad. You know, you hang out with
• 22:49
  superheroes, like, right all the time.
• 22:51
  Like, I don't know if you've ever met one of the magic ones,
• 22:53
  but like, you know, people who. Do Yeah.
• 22:56
  You're friends with Scott Summers?
• 22:58
  Yeah, like. Like not just kid past teens,
• 23:00
  Scott right, like adult Scott Summers personally showed up to
• 23:04
  save you one time because he heard you were in danger.
• 23:07
  Like you got that hookup. You're one of your best friends
• 23:10
  is a hyper intelligent synthezoid, right?
• 23:12
  Like surely she like I don't like I can't like normal people
• 23:16
  who don't have the connections, right?
• 23:17
  That's a bummer, right? There's a little bit of
• 23:19
  privilege there. But like, if your if your kids
• 23:23
  miss Marvel and she's been literally an Avenger, I think
• 23:26
  you get to make a call. You're 1° of separation away
• 23:29
  from someone who literally create a clothing device for
• 23:32
  like a giant chunk of the world's population.
• 23:36
  Call Xavier. It's fine.
• 23:38
  It's fine. Like they, oh, I'm probably, I
• 23:40
  think her dad's fine now. OK.
• 23:42
  I mean, yeah. I don't know.
• 23:44
  The last time I checked in, she had died.
• 23:46
  And I was gonna say, come on. Fucking well.
• 23:49
  Yeah Kamala was dead for like 2 issues and it was.
• 23:52
  Literally just so they could reboot her as a mutual which
• 23:54
  like okay fine that's which they wanted her to be from the jump
• 23:57
  but mutants weren't popular so she was in.
• 23:59
  I love that I'm not mad about that.
• 24:01
  What I'm mad about is they killed her during Asian American
• 24:05
  Persian Islander heritage month which is some bullshit and also
• 24:08
  that it wasn't even in her own comic.
• 24:10
  They killed her in a spider man comic while she was shape
• 24:13
  shifted into MJA thing. She can't.
• 24:16
  Actually do. And also a bad Spider Man comic.
• 24:19
  That was the worst part. Yeah, that wasn't even a good
• 24:22
  Spider Man. Also one that the Spider Man
• 24:25
  fans. The Spider fans.
• 24:26
  Don't like bad? So it was bad all around and it
• 24:30
  was insulting. And it's the thing that you're
• 24:31
  like, you know what, we've come so far.
• 24:34
  What's the Killing Joke? And yet, maybe not far enough.
• 24:37
  Right. I can't believe we're still just
• 24:42
  unceremoniously frigging characters anyways.
• 24:44
  Major prominent popular characters, right?
• 24:47
  Right. Anyways, Nergal.
• 24:52
  Yeah, Nergal with pretty much all chaos stuff.
• 24:56
  Once a chaos God's influence in an area becomes too much, it
• 24:59
  will crack the bounds of reality.
• 25:02
  Look at eggs. Yeah, accompanying Nergos
• 25:05
  diseases. Nergos demons are not far behind
• 25:07
  if you want to check your visual reference.
• 25:09
  I don't that's fair. No, I saw multiples of.
• 25:14
  Them I think the I think the first.
• 25:16
  Is that a beast tree? Yeah, I think it's AI think that
• 25:20
  is from Gurr and it is a tree that has been corrupted by
• 25:23
  Nergal to both be a living tree that will chase you down and
• 25:27
  like Nergal diseased demon tree. Yeah, it's.
• 25:33
  Got like some sort of blight. Nergals.
• 25:37
  Every chaos God has their own like chunk of the realm of chaos
• 25:40
  that they've carved out. Nergals is called the Garden.
• 25:44
  Of course it is. Yeah, it's where he grows all of
• 25:46
  his horrible new like ingredients for making diseases.
• 25:50
  And so not only can Nerval like infect plants and stuff to also
• 25:55
  spread his diseases, sometimes when the garden just like a
• 25:58
  manifests in the material plane, it will do so as these horrible
• 26:02
  blighted trees. Wait, Wait, wait, wait, wait,
• 26:05
  wait, wait, wait. Their little realms can manifest
• 26:07
  in the Material Plane. Not really, it's just Nergal.
• 26:10
  Okay, I was like, how did I miss?
• 26:12
  No, okay, I got it. He's our special grandpa.
• 26:15
  Yes, he's our special grandpa. He's the growth guy.
• 26:19
  And the garden manifesting in the material plane is
• 26:21
  horrifying. Yeah, it's really awful.
• 26:23
  Awful, awful. Yeah, worse than anything you
• 26:25
  could possibly imagine. No living thing, like no non
• 26:28
  demon can exist in the garden for more than like moments
• 26:31
  basically without just dying of every disease known under the
• 26:34
  sun. Even mortal chaos worshippers of
• 26:36
  Nergal. It just is too much for them,
• 26:38
  overwhelms them, kills them dead.
• 26:39
  Yes. Cool.
• 26:40
  Man right? Very.
• 26:41
  Super neat. Very super neat.
• 26:44
  Right. The most basic of nervals,
• 26:47
  demons, are called plague bears. That's the vaguely humanoid
• 26:50
  ones. Yeah.
• 26:52
  They got like, old horns and varying numbers of eyes, and
• 26:56
  they're just kind of gross. They're just kind of gross
• 26:59
  humanoids. And their horns are never where
• 27:01
  you really want. Them to be and they're not.
• 27:03
  The right shape. Yeah, they're just kind of
• 27:07
  gross. Not ideal.
• 27:10
  Nergal has an association with bells.
• 27:12
  I don't know why the in universe reason is but out of universe is
• 27:16
  supposed to evoke a like leave your dead in the streets during
• 27:19
  the Black Plague vibe. Yeah, here comes the corpse
• 27:22
  cart. Yes, absolutely bring out your.
• 27:25
  Dead. Yep, 100% and so plague bearers
• 27:29
  will carry bells into battle to toll the coming deaths that will
• 27:32
  be inflicted by their diseases. Most also by their jagged ass
• 27:37
  swords I. Would I was gonna say Nergal,
• 27:39
  David? Swords start pristine and rot
• 27:41
  almost immediately. Because Yep.
• 27:44
  Because Nergal of course rest and fall apart, also leaving
• 27:48
  jagged. Your stab you're definitely
• 27:50
  going to get tetanus. I was going to say leaving
• 27:52
  jagged wounds means harder infect or like harder wound to
• 27:55
  heal, better chance of infection.
• 27:56
  Like everything's on theme with Nergal.
• 27:58
  I appreciate that. I do appreciate all the chaos
• 28:00
  Gods are like very attensive to the brand, right?
• 28:02
  It's not like a themed restaurant where you go in and
• 28:04
  the decor is pretty good and then you sit down and the menu
• 28:06
  gave up after the 2nd. I was going to say.
• 28:08
  It's like no every every element of the established from the name
• 28:14
  and the table placements to the menu to the bathroom decor is
• 28:17
  on. You go to Chaos team, you go to
• 28:19
  Nurgles Bar and Grill, you're not getting any basic ass
• 28:21
  McDonald's menu, that's for sure.
• 28:23
  Yeah. Nothing's called house burger.
• 28:25
  Yeah, all has. A pestilence poppers.
• 28:30
  Yeah, God, no, no, no, no, not that one.
• 28:36
  Oh, God. Probably Nurglings, I'm
• 28:38
  assuming. Oh.
• 28:39
  I hate them but also I want to pat them on the.
• 28:43
  Head that is absolutely the Nurgling experience so Nerglings
• 28:48
  are a good counterpart to plague bears because nerglings are kind
• 28:51
  of the standard for Nergl demons.
• 28:53
  They are the actual like least minimal of Nergl demons.
• 28:58
  They're multitudinous. They just kind of grow out of
• 29:01
  all other Nergl demons. They.
• 29:03
  Look like Slimer. Yeah, they've got a this.
• 29:07
  Guy in the middle. They've got a Slimer energy.
• 29:09
  They all look like little Nergles, right?
• 29:11
  Like they just look like the little itty bitty versions of
• 29:13
  Nergl. Yeah, and they're joyful.
• 29:16
  They. Look real happy.
• 29:17
  Yeah, they're joyful, they're playful.
• 29:19
  They've spread disease like wildfire.
• 29:21
  You. Could tell me these were minions
• 29:22
  from like APS one game that got a sequel in the PS2 and I'd be
• 29:26
  like yeah for sure. I remember seeing my brothers
• 29:28
  play this game. Yeah, I was gonna say they
• 29:30
  remind me of minions from like minions like from Despicable Me.
• 29:34
  They've got kind of that energy. That franchise would have been
• 29:36
  less successful if the Minions looked like correct.
• 29:38
  Yeah, we in the in the world, that was episode, we were
• 29:42
  talking about Nergal. I mentioned Nergalings and I
• 29:45
  said they're just kind of terrible toddlers, like they're
• 29:48
  slimy and gross and they want to play with you.
• 29:50
  No, they contrast well with plague bears what we were
• 29:54
  talking about. Because unlike most Nergal
• 29:57
  demons, plague bears are not joyful.
• 29:59
  No, they look like they're in pain.
• 30:02
  Yeah, they're a little bit more. Part of it is because they're
• 30:06
  the most multitudinous, other than Nerglings who don't have
• 30:08
  like, the mental facilities for like a direct task.
• 30:11
  You just kind of let nerlings go.
• 30:13
  You can't like, order them to do stuff.
• 30:15
  They just kind. Of you put them somewhere, yeah.
• 30:17
  Absolutely, whereas plague bears are capable of to like do stuff.
• 30:20
  And so Nergl always the one for stagnation and like strictness
• 30:26
  and whatnot. Nergl has tasked plague bears
• 30:29
  with keeping account of every single disease they encounter.
• 30:33
  Yeah, he he just wants to know them all, which is a completely
• 30:35
  impossible task because they are demons of the God of disease.
• 30:38
  So new diseases are just happening all the time.
• 30:41
  Around do they have like little journals that they have to like?
• 30:43
  How do they keep track? They they keep tally, and they
• 30:45
  keep tally by saying it out loud, just themselves.
• 30:49
  A crowd of plague bears is just saying numbers all the time.
• 30:53
  That's worse. Yes, yeah, yeah, it's terrible.
• 30:57
  They're called the Tally Men of Nergal.
• 31:00
  Oh, that's good. Right.
• 31:01
  It's very good. It's very good.
• 31:03
  I like that. They they're, they're like
• 31:07
  droning as they count as like a huge crowd.
• 31:10
  Just hearing it is enough to make you sick.
• 31:13
  Yeah, yeah, I get that. Yeah, sure.
• 31:17
  They're just terrible and we love them for that, yeah.
• 31:20
  Every detail, every detail. If you want to swipe past the
• 31:23
  Nerglings, we have a beast of Nergl.
• 31:27
  Oh yeah, he's a big gross puppy dog.
• 31:32
  Yeah, and getting like unpleasant Scooby-doo.
• 31:35
  Vibe. Yeah, he's got a little bit of a
• 31:37
  snail vibe. The demeanor is definitely like
• 31:40
  a dog who loves you and he is going to lick your face and that
• 31:43
  is going to give you the plague, right?
• 31:45
  Like a piece of Nergal. His tongue.
• 31:48
  It looks like a slug. Sorry, sorry, it looks like a
• 31:52
  Leech. Yeah.
• 31:54
  Oh yeah. Well, he's also got a horn.
• 31:57
  He does piece of Nergal as the name alludes are not like
• 32:00
  sentient in the way that we were recognized.
• 32:02
  They are just kind of big dumb animals.
• 32:04
  But they're like the dog comparison strikes true.
• 32:07
  They are lovey. They just want to play with you.
• 32:10
  They are way too big and strong for their like own good.
• 32:14
  And so, yeah, like Nerglings, they aren't really directed into
• 32:18
  combat, and Nergl just pops them up wherever fun.
• 32:22
  Yeah. And then they do.
• 32:23
  And then they crush people to death on accident because
• 32:25
  they're big lovey dogs and they spread plague everywhere and
• 32:27
  they're very hard to kill and they just make things sick and
• 32:33
  bad. Is there?
• 32:34
  Like a little collar thing attached to their skin.
• 32:37
  Yeah. Cool, cool man.
• 32:39
  Right. They don't feel it.
• 32:42
  It's fine. They're they're Nergal.
• 32:43
  Yeah, they're Nergal aligned. The next slide has two of my
• 32:48
  favorites because they very much capture the vibe of Nergal.
• 32:51
  So the one on the left is a Spoilpox Scrivener.
• 32:56
  Is this the guy writing down the?
• 32:58
  Place. Yeah, he's like the manager in
• 33:01
  charge of plague bears. Yeah, he shares their kind of
• 33:04
  like more dour demeanor because he's got that task he can never
• 33:07
  complete and he's just writing down all the plagues that they
• 33:10
  keep count of. He's got a lot of scrolls on
• 33:12
  him. He.
• 33:12
  Has a lot of scrolls on him and you can see his mouth kind of
• 33:15
  just like goes down it's like and then loops back up.
• 33:18
  A very angry. Screaming.
• 33:21
  Yeah, he uses that to direct the plague bearers.
• 33:24
  That makes sense. You feel like you need to have a
• 33:26
  big, big booming voice. Yeah, he's just got a megaphone
• 33:29
  from. The diet.
• 33:29
  Yeah, Yeah, megaphone. Totally.
• 33:31
  He just, like, he's not jovial. He's like the only type of demon
• 33:37
  other than plague that's like, active because plague bears are
• 33:40
  just like, mundanity. They're like, yeah, there's
• 33:42
  whatever, nine to five in it. Yeah.
• 33:43
  Spoilfrox Scriveners, like, take joy in, like, bossing the plague
• 33:46
  bears around and, like, chiding them when they get the count off
• 33:50
  and, like, they're just kind of bad managers, which is fun in a
• 33:54
  way. The delightful, gross, awful guy
• 33:58
  next. To very upsetting goblin boy.
• 34:00
  Yeah, that is a sloppy bile piper.
• 34:03
  Yeah, I, I, I could. So yeah.
• 34:07
  No. What else would he be called?
• 34:08
  That's his name. It could be nothing else.
• 34:11
  He's Nergl's plague gestures Nergl has.
• 34:14
  Plague gestures. That's real fun, right?
• 34:16
  That's really fun. Like he does want you to have
• 34:19
  fun though. He does want you to have fun.
• 34:21
  He's giving you puppies and little kids to play with and
• 34:25
  gestures to entertain you like. He just doesn't get why you
• 34:28
  don't want the blight. He's.
• 34:32
  Got to right because the. Point of it is that.
• 34:34
  The only way humans will be like beings on this plane will be
• 34:38
  like, yeah, we'll run with you because the end game is the
• 34:41
  same. They still want to destroy
• 34:42
  everything. Yes, the duality of Nergal is
• 34:46
  that he definitely knows what he's doing.
• 34:48
  Like he's spreading diseases so that you jump on his side.
• 34:52
  He's spreading diseases because that's his end game to make
• 34:55
  everyone miserable and dour and like, Nergal worshippers don't
• 34:59
  feel the effects of the disease, but they can still be
• 35:01
  debilitated by them to where you just end up, like comatose.
• 35:05
  And that's perfectly acceptable. The Nergal, what is more
• 35:08
  stagnant, right? Yeah.
• 35:10
  Yeah. But he tries to at least.
• 35:14
  Make. It approach, Yeah, exactly.
• 35:17
  Sloppy bio pipers. Say the name one more time.
• 35:19
  Sloppy bio piper. Excellent.
• 35:22
  Yeah, just a delight. They carry bagpipes made out of
• 35:26
  intestines, because of course they do.
• 35:28
  Yeah, no. Is it their intestines?
• 35:29
  No, it's just somebody's OK. Yeah, I.
• 35:32
  Thought it was a part of their body so.
• 35:33
  That's it could be a part, I'm not actually sure on that
• 35:35
  because that is not uncommon amongst neural neural.
• 35:37
  Not better, not worse. The same bad both ways.
• 35:39
  Yeah, absolutely. But.
• 35:40
  Still equally bad, they are created pre infected with a
• 35:45
  disease that makes you laugh so hard that you are no longer able
• 35:49
  to like, eat or drink. Joker toxin.
• 35:52
  Yeah, a little bit, yeah. So they just, they, they crack
• 35:56
  jokes, they like hang out with other Nergal demons and make
• 36:00
  them try and entertain them and make them laugh.
• 36:02
  I think they're usually amenable too, and less they're like
• 36:05
  scriveners or plank bears. Right, they don't get the.
• 36:08
  Joke, yeah. So you just picture one with
• 36:10
  like a crowd of Nerglings telling them a slightly like an
• 36:13
  uncle joke, like a slightly too dirty for that like age range
• 36:17
  joke and all the Nerglings not really getting it but liking the
• 36:20
  delivery and laughing. That's kind of a you're
• 36:22
  supposed. To laugh now.
• 36:24
  Yep, that's kind of the vibe. The other type of demon that
• 36:27
  really likes sloppy bio pipers is on the next slide.
• 36:30
  That's a big. Guy that is a big guy that is
• 36:33
  they. Just has their guts coming out
• 36:34
  of their. Stores, I was going to say
• 36:35
  that's a very common theme for. Like, I get it where it's very
• 36:39
  evocative, but like everybody's doing it.
• 36:42
  Right, that happens to mortal. Song of the Summer.
• 36:46
  That happens to mortal followers of Nergal, too.
• 36:49
  Yeah. Some of Nergal's, like, elite
• 36:54
  mortal followers. What happens to, like, a Chaos
• 36:56
  warrior basically when they become a Nergal worshipper is
• 36:58
  they become something called a blight king, and they just get
• 37:02
  like a corpse that's been in the water too long.
• 37:04
  They just get bloated and like kind of liquidy almost, and
• 37:09
  their midsection just cracks open and they carry their
• 37:12
  intestines into battle. And it doesn't kill them, but
• 37:15
  it's. Yeah, it just happens to them.
• 37:20
  But that demon is a Great unclean One.
• 37:23
  It is. Yeah, for sure.
• 37:24
  Yep. Descriptive.
• 37:26
  Yeah. I.
• 37:27
  Mean they all are. Yeah.
• 37:28
  Oh, for sure. It is the greater demon Nergal.
• 37:33
  It's the equivalent of like Zinch's big birds that do magic.
• 37:36
  Yeah. Or corns.
• 37:38
  Ball rocks. Yeah.
• 37:40
  Yeah, Ball Rock Bros. Yeah, Great Unclean Ones are
• 37:43
  like giant gross father figures. They they love all the other
• 37:48
  demons. They give them advice, they will
• 37:50
  like sit and just like tell them stories and whatnot.
• 37:54
  They love the bio pipers. They'll get like groups of them
• 37:56
  together to perform concerts and stuff like grading.
• 37:59
  Cleans are just chilling most of the time.
• 38:01
  They. Support the arts.
• 38:02
  Yeah, absolutely. Being within like 100 feet of a
• 38:05
  great one clean one will kill you dead most of the time.
• 38:08
  Like because they are just overwhelming with disease, they
• 38:13
  are rivaled amongst demons only by Zinch's greater demons in
• 38:18
  terms of magical capability. For sure.
• 38:20
  Great. And Cleveland's are extremely
• 38:22
  good at magic specifically to spread nerkles diseases both in
• 38:26
  like a very direct way where they're like summoning diseases
• 38:29
  into the world, but also in a like giving you 100 little tiny
• 38:32
  cuts all over your body kind of way.
• 38:34
  Yeah, or changing the temperature so that something
• 38:38
  can grow and sprout better or. Yeah.
• 38:41
  Yeah. Bringing in rain to make it
• 38:44
  moist and damp and gross. But yeah, overwhelmingly kind
• 38:49
  and, like, supportive to other demons and, like, mortal Nergal
• 38:53
  followers. Weird.
• 38:54
  Yeah, Right. Again, it's that Nergal thing.
• 38:56
  It's that kind of like being nice while actively harming you
• 39:01
  things, yes? I mean literally.
• 39:03
  Toxic. Yeah, I'm literally the most
• 39:04
  toxic person you've ever met. They, like nervelings, are
• 39:08
  created in Nerkel's image, right?
• 39:10
  It's not a direct 1:00 to 1:00, but you can.
• 39:11
  Definitely see there, yeah. Absolutely, yeah, absolutely see
• 39:14
  it. But all of these demons just
• 39:18
  breach into and start to spread across Skyrim.
• 39:23
  Alario responds instantly, like she's not waiting for Sigmar to
• 39:27
  show up. She has her own like shit
• 39:29
  covered. But as we talked about, it's a
• 39:32
  hard match up for her. It's difficult for her.
• 39:35
  Even with the Silvaneth backing her, even with like what mortals
• 39:38
  there are that don't get like infected and whatnot.
• 39:40
  It's very hard for her to push against Nurgle with the power of
• 39:45
  growth. And eventually she finds herself
• 39:47
  being pushed back and back from her like expanded domain across
• 39:53
  Guy Ran. She gets to a point where she
• 39:57
  realizes that she can't hold off Nergal alone and she calls to
• 40:01
  Sigmar for help and he is elsewhere.
• 40:04
  Solving another problem. Yeah, chaos is coming in
• 40:06
  everywhere, and Sigmar's got to prioritize where he's going.
• 40:09
  Some other stuff has happened. We're going to talk about a
• 40:12
  little bit in this episode because they're kind of related.
• 40:14
  Yeah. Like Alario reaches out to her,
• 40:18
  what she sees as her, like, Co nature God.
• 40:21
  Yeah. In Gorka, Morca, God of the orcs
• 40:23
  got a destruction yeah manifested on Gurr, where she's
• 40:27
  like listen, like the wild is being threatened, like come help
• 40:31
  and he doesn't come either did. You just leave her on red.
• 40:35
  Pretty much. Well, he it's unclear if he even
• 40:38
  gets the message because basically as each manifest into
• 40:44
  the realms we talked about in our Mythic Chaos episode that
• 40:47
  Gorkamorka picked up a hunting buddy, the guy Beamat, and they
• 40:51
  had that escalating bear thing and the last dare that Gorkmark
• 40:54
  challenged B amount to was to challenge Sigmar to a fight and
• 40:57
  Sigmar didn't want to deal with it and just KO have been one hit
• 41:00
  knocked him unconscious just like left him half buried and
• 41:04
  rock on Gur and. Mountain range now.
• 41:08
  Yeah, yeah, He's sleeping. He's sleeping off the big hit.
• 41:11
  But that like even though it's a thing that Gorkmark challenged B
• 41:15
  amount to do that like Gorkmark as hunting ranges has been
• 41:20
  depleted, he's not finding the God beast he was hunting before.
• 41:24
  He's not getting the fights he wants anymore.
• 41:26
  Everything is starting to become these walls and these cities of
• 41:30
  these like closed in spaces. And Beamat's the last straw.
• 41:34
  He stops hunting. He like broods for a little bit
• 41:38
  and basically right around 1 Zinch comes into the world or
• 41:41
  Kamarca's just like alright, I did the cool hunting thing.
• 41:44
  There's not enough good hunts anymore.
• 41:46
  I'm just gonna start breaking shit cuz that's who I am, yeah.
• 41:50
  He's. My thing He kind of informally
• 41:53
  leaves Sigmar's pantheon, yeah. You didn't even stick around for
• 41:58
  the thing we were all getting together for.
• 42:00
  This is gonna ruin the tour. God of destruction?
• 42:03
  Yep, he he did as was his want. And so like that happens just
• 42:09
  before or like just as Nergl's emerging into Guy Rand as well.
• 42:13
  And so Alario reaches out to Gork Marcus.
• 42:15
  Sigma really could have stood to like instead of just handing out
• 42:18
  invitations, maybe do some team building activities.
• 42:20
  Absolutely. That's genuinely a huge issue
• 42:22
  that we're going to see come up in a couple.
• 42:24
  Of yeah, we're all in the same club, but like they have no
• 42:27
  shared goals other than the one abstract of like when chaos
• 42:30
  shows up but like they don't like each other.
• 42:33
  Right, right. There's a lot, a lot of bad
• 42:35
  blood and beef there, and even when Sigmar just assumed there
• 42:39
  would be a big enough threat that everyone would.
• 42:42
  Yeah, but Alario reached out to Gork Morca and he's busy kicking
• 42:45
  cities over because he's the God of Destruction and he's going to
• 42:49
  do what he's going to do. Chaos is pouring into the world.
• 42:51
  Cool. That's a good, good fight for
• 42:53
  later. But I'm mid rampage across girl
• 42:56
  right now and I've got all the orcs with me and we're having a
• 42:58
  blast. I'll get back to you later.
• 43:00
  Like, so Gorkamarka doesn't show up.
• 43:03
  No one can. Is like hearing from Nagash.
• 43:07
  No clue what's going on there. She reaches out to the other
• 43:10
  elves and they've got some shit going on that we're going to
• 43:13
  talk about later. I wonder what the.
• 43:15
  Elves, Yeah. I wonder.
• 43:17
  Yeah. TuneIn, next episode for when we
• 43:19
  talk about Slanesh. But yeah, it just becomes
• 43:24
  increasingly apparent that Alario started this fight
• 43:28
  thinking that she would handle it alone, and has become
• 43:30
  increasingly clear that she couldn't handle it alone.
• 43:32
  Realizes that she's going to have to handle it alone.
• 43:38
  Fuck, right? No wonder this doesn't work.
• 43:40
  Right. They had no battle plan, they
• 43:43
  had no actual structure. Just as great.
• 43:45
  We like got the gang back together.
• 43:47
  I'm going to go back to my house and like build a bunch of cities
• 43:49
  in the meantime and just like nothing.
• 43:51
  Yeah, Sigmar made the mistake of thinking that everyone was
• 43:54
  thinking of it on the same level that he was.
• 43:56
  Because like, Sigmar's home realm of Vizier, fine, Chaos
• 44:00
  can't get in. Sigmar built a wall around the
• 44:04
  world, right? Like that's his want.
• 44:06
  But the others didn't do that. And like, that's not really
• 44:09
  their fault, it's just that they were on the same page as what
• 44:13
  Sigmar was doing. Goddess Civilization maybe could
• 44:15
  have offered some people a blueprint, correct?
• 44:18
  Like this is what I'm going to do at my place.
• 44:19
  Like you could have got to have a fucking monthly meeting to
• 44:21
  check in again. So what are we all doing to
• 44:23
  combat Chaos? Hey elves, I'm looking at you.
• 44:26
  You get a little shady over there being kind of quiet.
• 44:29
  What are you doing to make sure Chaos doesn't get here?
• 44:33
  So Ilario gets backed into a corner eventually.
• 44:37
  That grand like guy ran almost across guy ran like domain that
• 44:44
  Ilaria all claimed for herself gets reduced to just a couple of
• 44:48
  like enclaves near the heart of guy ran where she has been able
• 44:52
  to like re fortify her power pull from a new oak of ages that
• 44:56
  she grew there just like a cornerstone tree full of life
• 45:00
  magic. She gathers what Sylvan as she
• 45:03
  can, and she goes directly into her winter aspects.
• 45:08
  I was going to say baby's about to go dormant.
• 45:09
  Yeah, Yep. She goes into her winter aspect,
• 45:12
  she focuses, she pulls her power from where it had like grown out
• 45:16
  into a guy ran and focuses all of it on this like two or three
• 45:20
  tiny enclaves near the center and just says me and the silver
• 45:24
  net, they're going to hold up here.
• 45:25
  What we think of a plan or we wait for like something to come
• 45:28
  back, some reinforcement. Any reinforcement?
• 45:30
  To show up. Yep.
• 45:31
  And in the meantime, sorry humans and dwarves and everybody
• 45:36
  else. Peace and closes off her glades
• 45:40
  and just, yeah, goes dormant. Goes like buries herself in the
• 45:45
  earth and waits. And Guy Ran falls basically
• 45:51
  entirely to Nergal, because unlike Alario, he isn't
• 45:56
  constrained by his power spread. The more diseased, the more
• 46:00
  powerful Nergal gets. And yeah, Guy Ran is the 1st and
• 46:07
  the fastest of the realms to fall entirely under the control
• 46:10
  of Chaos. Yeah, cuz a single goddamn
• 46:13
  person could pick up their fucking cell.
• 46:15
  Phone, right? I know Gorkomorka like the line
• 46:19
  snapped. That was always a tenuous
• 46:21
  alliance. Again, no one knows what Nagash
• 46:23
  is up too. Just can't get ahold of him
• 46:26
  basically. Yeah, and that's a bummer too
• 46:27
  when you're saying how you can't fight the life magic with life
• 46:29
  magic. I'm like right?
• 46:30
  Hate that death guy but really bet he could roll up and just
• 46:33
  wreck right? Nagash would have been great
• 46:36
  there, Shamy didn't. Yeah, and the fact that she even
• 46:40
  tried to reach out to that fool, Yeah.
• 46:42
  But yeah, I think he would have absolutely wrecked shop and then
• 46:46
  probably turned around and took over the whole place for
• 46:47
  himself. Right.
• 46:48
  This is fair. He.
• 46:50
  Probably would also kill the Lara while he was at it, let's
• 46:52
  be super honest. But Gary and falls to Nergal.
• 46:57
  That's where like timeline wise we're going to kind of leave
• 47:00
  Nergal and malarial. But I do have some fun like
• 47:04
  named. Is anything fun we can talk
• 47:07
  about here, Dalton? I'm the most bummed.
• 47:09
  Out I'm sorry I I have some characters with some history we
• 47:14
  can talk about which I think is fun that.
• 47:16
  Sounds good. Some named characters, they're
• 47:18
  in our visual aid. Yeah, dude, it's like a.
• 47:22
  Bad tree. Yeah, I think that's a good
• 47:25
  description of like. But like like a tree that has a
• 47:29
  disease, bad disease tree, but not like those earlier blight
• 47:33
  trees that already exist and want to eat you.
• 47:34
  This is its own kind of bad disease tree.
• 47:37
  If you look at that guy, he's actually got two people standing
• 47:39
  on his back. Got 2 dudes on his back.
• 47:41
  Yeah, so the first, the characters I want to talk about,
• 47:44
  the specific green thing going on.
• 47:45
  Yeah, a little bit. First characters I want to talk
• 47:47
  about is the Glotkin. Cool.
• 47:50
  The Glotkin, as their name implies, is actually a set of
• 47:52
  three brothers. You've got the two on the back
• 47:55
  and the third one is the big giant Beastie.
• 47:58
  Who's the oldest brother, the middlest brother, and the
• 48:00
  youngest brother? Otto, the guy wearing like armor
• 48:03
  to the left in that picture, is the oldest brother.
• 48:06
  He is the most martially capable.
• 48:09
  Ethrac is the kind of hunched over.
• 48:11
  He's got like stuff growing out of him on the back.
• 48:15
  He's the middle brother. He is magically capable.
• 48:17
  He is a very powerful connection to nervous diseases and can
• 48:21
  spread them through magic. And the youngest brother is
• 48:23
  Gurik, who's the giant Chaos spawn they ride into battle.
• 48:28
  Very cool. I flew too close to the sun, got
• 48:30
  morphed into a chaos Spawn. Yeah.
• 48:32
  That happened, yeah. Kept his facilities and now his
• 48:34
  brothers ride him into battle. Wait, are these old dudes?
• 48:37
  Yes, these are demons. No, these are, these are mortal.
• 48:40
  Yeah, these were mortal followers of Nergal.
• 48:43
  Shit. OK, Yeah.
• 48:46
  They were extremely powerful Nergal worshippers in the world
• 48:48
  that was. They have been preserved by
• 48:51
  Nergal. Yeah.
• 48:52
  Nergal, just like, as far as we can tell, just like kept him in
• 48:55
  a stasis bubble in the realm of chaos because he liked them so
• 48:57
  much and was just waiting to toss them out when there was.
• 49:01
  Yeah. When there was somewhere they
• 49:02
  could live again. Yeah.
• 49:06
  Yeah. They've just been chilling,
• 49:07
  basically in stasis in the garden.
• 49:10
  Otto wields his old, his dad's old farming scythe as a weapon.
• 49:15
  There's a little bit of like Grim Reaper, yeah, thing going
• 49:18
  on there. Ethic, again, vast knowledge of
• 49:23
  nervous disease and whatnot. Gurik has his facilities, but
• 49:27
  he's just like a huge chaos spawn now, so he just kind of
• 49:30
  lumbers like around carries the other two into battle.
• 49:33
  They don't have a ton that they've like done in AOS, that
• 49:38
  they're kind of in the Valkya zone where they were very
• 49:40
  important chaos characters in the world that was, and
• 49:44
  especially they were very important characters, characters
• 49:46
  in the world that was that have models for the tabletop game.
• 49:49
  Yeah. You want that?
• 49:50
  You want those models. Yep.
• 49:51
  And so Games Workshop didn't want to be like, hey everybody,
• 49:54
  we just made this cool Glotkin model for the end times for
• 49:57
  Warhammer Fantasy Battles. You can't use it anymore at Age
• 50:00
  of Sigmar. So they contrived a reason for
• 50:03
  them to be an Age of Sigmar. They're here, they're doing
• 50:05
  stuff. They they patrol guy ran after
• 50:08
  it falls to chaos, just spreading nervous diseases
• 50:11
  anywhere that it hasn't reached yet.
• 50:13
  Yeah, the next one is a character I quite like.
• 50:19
  Oh, oh, Harticulus Slimex. Picture of oh, he's got a Mario
• 50:24
  plant that's a piranha. Plant, yeah, I think that's.
• 50:27
  A model. Yeah.
• 50:30
  That's not a picture, that's a model.
• 50:31
  I was going to say, there's not a ton of good art of Harticulus
• 50:35
  for whatever reason. So I have a picture of a model.
• 50:38
  He's on a very bad slug. But he's got feet.
• 50:40
  Or, sorry, it's a snail with feet.
• 50:42
  Yeah. As horrible as you think it is,
• 50:44
  listener. Horticulous, as his name
• 50:48
  implies, is Nergl's gardener. Yeah, Yep, Horticulous Slimex.
• 50:53
  He is the groundskeeper of the Garden of Nergl.
• 50:56
  That's pretty cool. He's probably Nergl's first
• 50:58
  demon, just made specifically to tend to the garden.
• 51:03
  He is also uncharacteristically foul mooded for a new Demon of
• 51:07
  Nergl. You're a gardener, yeah.
• 51:10
  He's got a job, which is like, I think that's the yeah, they hate
• 51:14
  having jobs. Yeah.
• 51:15
  Nergl stagnation. Nergl like embodies is kind of a
• 51:18
  lazy. Yeah, absolutely.
• 51:22
  But he he does like his work. He's just a little bit grumpy
• 51:25
  about it. He gives me kind of like
• 51:26
  Groundskeeper Willie from the Citizens vibes a little bit
• 51:29
  where he's quick to anger, but he's got like a a good heart
• 51:32
  question mark. Yeah.
• 51:34
  For a Nergl demon, yeah. He'll look after the other the
• 51:38
  Nerglings. Oh he does.
• 51:39
  He does like the Nerglings. Yeah, just cuz it's nice to see
• 51:42
  him around. Yeah, he'll like, he's not gonna
• 51:44
  be like get out of the lawn. He'll teach him the beauty of
• 51:46
  the garden. Yeah, absolutely.
• 51:47
  He cultivates all of those like wild, like chaos plants the
• 51:51
  Nergl uses to brew his new like special diseases reach up in.
• 51:55
  The tree and pluck off a plague popper and give it to them.
• 51:58
  Yeah, absolutely. He rides that giant snail, the
• 52:02
  giant snails. Like this giant snail.
• 52:04
  Like I mean, I hate it, but I do.
• 52:06
  Maybe I just like the way the shell is painted in.
• 52:08
  This model, he's a little the snail is a little bit ghibbly.
• 52:12
  It is. Yeah, it is if, yeah, we wanted
• 52:15
  to get into really, it's like, it's like Ghibbly.
• 52:19
  But when we lean into the horror, Yeah, of it's most of
• 52:24
  the things that happened in Princess Mononoke.
• 52:25
  I was going to say it's a Studio Ghibli movie featuring Junji
• 52:29
  Ito. I was.
• 52:30
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean it.
• 52:34
  Also just give me like when the king of the forests head
• 52:37
  exposed. Absolutely.
• 52:39
  Or no face gorging himself. Yep, the snail is named Mulch.
• 52:47
  What a good garden snail. Name right?
• 52:49
  Yeah, that's the best name so far.
• 52:52
  And Articulus rides mulch around tending the garden is.
• 52:57
  He fast. No, he's remarkably slow.
• 52:59
  He's got so many, he does so many legs, but he is a snail.
• 53:04
  I think he's the slowest model in the tabletop game.
• 53:06
  He's. Got 14.
• 53:07
  Legs. Yeah, that's because I don't
• 53:10
  think we've mentioned this before.
• 53:11
  Nergal's holy number is 7. So he's.
• 53:14
  Got 14 legs because it's two sevens.
• 53:15
  Yep. Wherever Mulch goes, he leaves a
• 53:18
  trail of slime behind him that makes a like the garden of
• 53:21
  Nergal grow. It's the perfect fertilizer for
• 53:23
  it. Occasionally Horticulus spends
• 53:27
  most of his time in the garden. Occasionally he will be like
• 53:30
  brought out onto like the material world onto a
• 53:33
  battlefield somewhere. And Mulch can spread the garden
• 53:36
  in the material world as well. That's kind of the that's why
• 53:39
  you bring Horticulus out yet, because you want the garden to
• 53:42
  kind of push into the mortal world a little bit.
• 53:44
  He has an unrivaled knowledge of plants, both of the garden and
• 53:48
  of the like, mundane like Horticulus also knows, like all
• 53:52
  the real plants that exist. He's just genuinely a very good
• 53:56
  gardener, which is part of why I like him quite a bit.
• 53:58
  Yeah, I'm into this. This is pretty good.
• 54:00
  Right, the guy next to him is terrible.
• 54:04
  Official reference. He's got OK, See this thing in
• 54:09
  the glance? I thought it was spitting Will
• 54:11
  at first. It's not.
• 54:12
  No Is tentacles 2. Oh, yeah, like he's got an arm.
• 54:22
  And on the other side of his body, where there should be more
• 54:24
  arm, there are tentacles. Yeah, plural.
• 54:26
  Not tentacle, tentacles. Yep.
• 54:29
  Like there's an octopus shooting out the side of this dude's
• 54:31
  body. This man is in the running for
• 54:35
  favorite name in Warhammer. His name is Gut Rot Spume.
• 54:39
  Yeah, that's good. Yeah, that's above board.
• 54:42
  Old gut rot spume. He was a mortal man during the
• 54:46
  Age of Myth and when Nergal pushed into guy ran, got rot,
• 54:52
  saw the way the wind was going and immediately pledged his
• 54:55
  alliance to him. Didn't have to get infected,
• 54:57
  didn't have to anything. He was just like, Yep, he's just
• 55:00
  like, I know where this fights going to end and I want to be
• 55:03
  like first in line for the good stuff that.
• 55:05
  Makes sense. Yeah, sure, man.
• 55:07
  I guess I've seen it in the world, yeah.
• 55:09
  He tries to immediately like prove himself to Nergl, try and
• 55:13
  like jump through the ranks. He says, I'm going to go hunt
• 55:17
  this like Kraken that lives off of the out in this like ocean
• 55:21
  and guy ran and I'm going to dedicate the kill to Nergl and
• 55:25
  he will bloat its body with disease and pustules and
• 55:28
  pestilence and that will spread. That will put me up in Nergl's
• 55:32
  roster. I will be important.
• 55:33
  Yes, Yep, terrible. He went to fight that Kraken.
• 55:38
  It was too much for him. He actually almost, yeah, he
• 55:42
  actually almost died fighting that Kraken.
• 55:46
  And then Nergal said, I like your spirit.
• 55:48
  And. You got gumption, kid?
• 55:51
  Yeah. Absolutely.
• 55:53
  And Nergal, the Kraken takes off gut rooms arm and Nergal
• 55:58
  replaces it with Kraken tentacles.
• 56:00
  That's the those are the tentacles covered out.
• 56:03
  That's. So fucking funny.
• 56:04
  Right. Oh, he took your arm.
• 56:07
  Don't worry, I'll give you arms that he's got.
• 56:12
  And then Nergal, Nergal spread, Nergal spread disease into the
• 56:17
  Kraken while it was still alive and made it docile, put it under
• 56:22
  the command of Gut Rot. That's pretty cool, right?
• 56:25
  That's pretty cool. So now Gut Rot's ship still like
• 56:31
  beached on the Krakens back. The Lurska, it's embedded in the
• 56:36
  Krakens back. It's just like stuck there but
• 56:39
  gut rot has mental control of the Kraken and he is now
• 56:43
  Nergal's like coastal Raider. Him and his fleet.
• 56:47
  That's like a really intense Moby Dick AU.
• 56:49
  Yes, it's a wild like he went to hunt this Kraken and now it is
• 56:54
  his flagship, basically. Yeah, the Kraken is horrifyingly
• 56:58
  corrupted by Nergal. And so it's just.
• 57:00
  Seafarers. Yet I really like Well, where
• 57:02
  are the oceans? Every realm has at least one I
• 57:06
  mean. I guess, yeah, they're all
• 57:07
  realities, yeah. Yeah, actually turn into giant
• 57:11
  firestorms near the edge. Guy Rands or Guy Rands are
• 57:15
  actually really nice. But like, Gers are full of
• 57:18
  eldritch like beasts. Naturally, Hitches are
• 57:24
  incredibly calm because it's Hitch.
• 57:27
  Old goos you can get lost in immediately.
• 57:30
  Of course you can. Old goos are where all the the
• 57:33
  fish Alps live because they can just go down to the bottom of
• 57:36
  the Mariana Trench, where Tecla won't find them.
• 57:42
  Right. Tecla says he's chill, like he's
• 57:45
  not going to destroy them anymore.
• 57:46
  But they're like, I don't, yeah. Exactly, is the thing.
• 57:50
  Maybe it's not like a priority, but it's still on the To Do
• 57:55
  List, right? It is convenient for him to do
• 57:58
  so. Teklis is too confident he's
• 58:00
  right all the time to like, give up on something like that.
• 58:04
  I would not be surprised if you eventually got a plot where he
• 58:07
  does go off and destroy them. Right, We're funsies.
• 58:10
  Just come on Teklis, pull it together.
• 58:12
  Didn't. Have to forget like, but all
• 58:13
  these people got these models, So what do we do?
• 58:15
  Yeah, exactly. I think getting I'll bring.
• 58:17
  It back in Zombies. Oh, there you go, zombie.
• 58:19
  Fish people, that's. Pretty good.
• 58:22
  My favorite thing about Gut Rot is that he is like Nergal's like
• 58:26
  pirate captain, he raids coastlines and stuff but also
• 58:30
  the Kraken is corrupted by Nergal and so it just gives off
• 58:34
  like slime all the time. And so Gutroff will like park
• 58:39
  the Kraken on a beach and just have it like emanate slime like
• 58:43
  into the mainland and then sail all the ships on the slime into
• 58:48
  like cities. Good.
• 58:50
  What the fuck? It's so good.
• 58:54
  That's great. That's so funny.
• 58:56
  I really like Gutroff. Yeah, that's awesome.
• 58:59
  I was just told that at first that I'm like Nah this is good.
• 59:01
  He's very good. Sly motions to sail your ships
• 59:04
  on the land. What a mad lad.
• 59:06
  He in in gameplay in the tabletop game you can just like
• 59:10
  start him off of the game board and then bring him in later at a
• 59:14
  board edge because he sailed the ships out.
• 59:16
  Fuck. Yeah.
• 59:19
  It's so good, but that's got right we we got a couple more
• 59:24
  named characters I like. Who are these guys?
• 59:28
  Those are the Maggoth Lords. OK.
• 59:30
  Yeah, so the the big huge creatures they're riding are
• 59:34
  called maggots. I wonder where we get this name.
• 59:37
  From Yep. I mean they are just monster
• 59:39
  maggots basically, which is fun. And all three of these fellows
• 59:45
  were also from the old world. They're also like Nergal is
• 59:49
  beating the cares about his followers allegations, right?
• 59:52
  Yeah, just people. He also was like y'all are
• 59:55
  great, serve me good in the old world, put you in a bubble, let
• 59:58
  you out when I find something new.
• 1:00:00
  Yeah. You know, you're taking.
• 1:00:01
  I'm taking all of you. This is super great.
• 1:00:02
  I love it. Yeah.
• 1:00:03
  Yeah, but all three were like Nergal warlords in the old world
• 1:00:08
  who had proved themselves in various ways.
• 1:00:10
  They were gifted those like horrifying mounts as like an
• 1:00:14
  honor by Nergal and they helped lead his immortal followers
• 1:00:19
  during the end times. They they played supplement to
• 1:00:22
  the glatkin basically the. Glatkin.
• 1:00:24
  Yeah, the hunched over kind of fly looking one.
• 1:00:29
  His name is BLOB rot Spawn. He as a like Nergal warlord.
• 1:00:37
  He was kind of shitty to bugs, like he just didn't like him.
• 1:00:40
  He would like mess with them and stuff.
• 1:00:43
  Just being kind of like a kid with a magnifying glass on
• 1:00:46
  anthill. Yeah, OK.
• 1:00:47
  Nergal loves maggots and flies. They they spread disease.
• 1:00:52
  He loves them terribly. And so Nergal cursed Blobe to be
• 1:00:57
  a conduit of maggots and flies. Yeah, that seems like a reason
• 1:01:01
  that's that's the only response you.
• 1:01:02
  Get yeah, so Blobe is more fly swarm than man at this point
• 1:01:07
  where he goes. I think there's a spider man
• 1:01:10
  villain that's just a swarm. Of flies, probably.
• 1:01:12
  That sounds right. He's a swarm of that.
• 1:01:14
  Sounds right. Anywhere Blobe goes, flies just
• 1:01:19
  spread out from him and lay their eggs on everything.
• 1:01:21
  And now you have more flies. Cool.
• 1:01:23
  Yep. He's awful.
• 1:01:24
  I hate that. I hate him terribly.
• 1:01:29
  He, I think, is the least interesting.
• 1:01:30
  So we're just going to move on. The one that looks like a big
• 1:01:34
  knurling. Yeah.
• 1:01:36
  That is Morbidex Twice born, who also has a great name.
• 1:01:40
  I do like that, yeah. He as a youth was disfigured in
• 1:01:46
  like a campfire accident, very badly burned.
• 1:01:49
  Blamed Zinch for it because Changer and Zinch is a fire
• 1:01:52
  association. A bit of a tenuous connection,
• 1:01:54
  but whatever. Like.
• 1:01:56
  What a blame Zinch for a lot of fire things.
• 1:01:58
  Yeah, we do on. Right, he's not.
• 1:02:01
  He's not the cleverest, but knowing that Zinch and Nergel
• 1:02:06
  don't like each other, he ventured out into the chaos ways
• 1:02:09
  to try and seek Nergel's favor to like, get his revenge.
• 1:02:12
  It's. That scene from Avengers End
• 1:02:14
  Game where Wanda approaches Santos and she's like, you stole
• 1:02:18
  everything. You took everything from me.
• 1:02:20
  He's like, I don't even know who.
• 1:02:22
  You are, yeah, I'm a genuine. I think it was just genuinely a
• 1:02:25
  campfire accident. Yeah, he's like, man, I can't be
• 1:02:27
  everywhere at once. Right.
• 1:02:30
  As part of his, like, trial to prove himself to Nergel, he
• 1:02:34
  started climbing this like, mountain.
• 1:02:36
  Nergal was just like, climb this mountain as like a test of
• 1:02:38
  resilience because that's the thing I value.
• 1:02:39
  Yeah. And as he climbed this mountain.
• 1:02:42
  If you fall down dead right away from the plagues, you're not
• 1:02:43
  going to spread. Each other.
• 1:02:44
  Yeah, exactly. As he's climbing this mountain,
• 1:02:47
  Nerglings just, like, pour out of the mountain and start
• 1:02:50
  clinging to him, like weighing him down, making the climb
• 1:02:53
  harder. And then they start asking him
• 1:02:55
  riddles. What?
• 1:02:57
  Kind of riddles. How can a monstrous toddler have
• 1:03:00
  for you? I can't imagine anything.
• 1:03:02
  I have no idea, I did just not nothing I could find elaborated
• 1:03:06
  on what the riddles. Were it would just be Riddle me
• 1:03:08
  piss. Yeah, my brother, my brother and
• 1:03:11
  me. Like that is the kind of riddles
• 1:03:13
  you're getting from the Nergling.
• 1:03:14
  I'm picturing a Nergling with Travis's face now.
• 1:03:17
  Oh no, don't let that get out. I love them anyway.
• 1:03:22
  I compared them to the black kid earlier.
• 1:03:24
  That's like, this is all in love.
• 1:03:26
  That's fair. But yeah, these knurlings just
• 1:03:29
  keep asking Morbodex these riddles and he's not very clever
• 1:03:33
  and also they're knurling riddles, so they probably just
• 1:03:36
  don't make sense. Don't make sense.
• 1:03:38
  And every time he gets one wrong, the knurlings laugh and
• 1:03:41
  they change a part of his body to be more like a knurling.
• 1:03:45
  Yep. Faint, right?
• 1:03:48
  It's in very short order. He just is a big knurling
• 1:03:51
  basically. I just I remembered a air quotes
• 1:03:54
  air quotes joke that my younger brother made-up when we were
• 1:03:59
  kids so he was like nergling age and it was the most non joke and
• 1:04:04
  I was even a kid and I could tell this is some bullshit and I
• 1:04:07
  hated it and it was why didn't the mouse eat the cheese?
• 1:04:11
  Why no? You.
• 1:04:14
  Have to guess. Because cheese.
• 1:04:20
  Because he ate the cheese, yeah. Oh no, it was close.
• 1:04:23
  More close and I would just remember being so fucking mad
• 1:04:28
  because it's not a joke. That's.
• 1:04:29
  Makes a joke. It's like.
• 1:04:30
  He's like, oh, he already so didn't eat it.
• 1:04:32
  No fuck. So that's what I'm that's the
• 1:04:34
  energy I'm feeling from the. Nerd yes absolutely.
• 1:04:37
  A very short order of Marbadex just is a big Nergling like and
• 1:04:42
  well, he hated that originally. It did like cure him of his like
• 1:04:45
  fire disfigurement and since he has kind of embraced it as he's
• 1:04:50
  the the mortal champion of Nergalings basically in gave he
• 1:04:53
  has rules to like make them better if they're near him and
• 1:04:57
  like he's just kind of a adoptive Nergaling parent a
• 1:04:59
  little bit. Yeah, yeah, sure.
• 1:05:01
  He. Came into his own, yeah.
• 1:05:03
  We were happy I'm I love that journey for him.
• 1:05:06
  Right. And then the last one is the the
• 1:05:09
  weirdest 1, like I'm going to be completely real with y'all.
• 1:05:12
  Was Full Metal Alchemist looking motherfucker.
• 1:05:13
  Right, I'm going to be completely real with you
• 1:05:16
  listeners. I don't know if this is still
• 1:05:17
  Canon anymore because so fucking weird.
• 1:05:20
  The last one is Orgot's demon spew.
• 1:05:23
  OK, naturally. Naturally, and the only like
• 1:05:27
  information on him is that he is supposedly and is the only
• 1:05:31
  instance of this that I know of, he is supposedly half human,
• 1:05:36
  half demon and not. By like biology or a science
• 1:05:42
  experiment? No, don't like the first?
• 1:05:45
  One not it's not like infected while he was in the womb or like
• 1:05:52
  magically transformed. According to the sources I could
• 1:05:56
  find, he is supposedly the child of a human mother and a Great
• 1:06:01
  Unclean One father, and the logistics of that are
• 1:06:05
  unthinkable. Yeah, the.
• 1:06:07
  Shadow 100 world. We call those Warlocks.
• 1:06:09
  Yeah, Orgots is the only instance of it I've ever seen
• 1:06:13
  it. They'd still say that in like
• 1:06:15
  his AOS information, but I don't know if that's like just because
• 1:06:18
  they haven't come up with something else yet, but like.
• 1:06:21
  Really paid attention for like, no one's been like, wait, it
• 1:06:24
  says what? Right.
• 1:06:26
  Still no, that's obviously a lie.
• 1:06:29
  Some that's just some like boffo, someone made-up to get
• 1:06:33
  him like yeah, that's not true. Let's let's let's, let's not do
• 1:06:36
  that. He's actually.
• 1:06:38
  So right. He is he is half human, half
• 1:06:41
  demon. But like, it was an experiment.
• 1:06:43
  Yeah, right. It's not bite.
• 1:06:44
  Like, how would that even work? Demons aren't, they're creatures
• 1:06:47
  of pure magic. It's a whole.
• 1:06:48
  This is not good. We don't like this.
• 1:06:50
  Yeah, this is bad, but his you. Can't even get 100 feet and one
• 1:06:53
  of the great unclean ones about dying right.
• 1:06:56
  Right. Like his mom was supposedly like
• 1:06:58
  chaos sorceress of Nergal so like that gives her some
• 1:07:01
  protection but still like. I feel like it wouldn't happen
• 1:07:05
  more. Often.
• 1:07:06
  Right, so it just needs to happen 0.
• 1:07:09
  Right. He supposedly his motivation is
• 1:07:12
  that he's mad that he's not a full demon.
• 1:07:15
  Like he he has all of the downsides of being a demon or he
• 1:07:17
  gets like really weak in areas where there's a little bunch of
• 1:07:20
  like magic suffusion because the demon parts of him can't exist.
• 1:07:23
  Well but he can't fully like traverse the garden because the
• 1:07:27
  human part of him would still die like and so he's just he's
• 1:07:31
  just mad that he's like caught between 2 worlds.
• 1:07:33
  Man, that's. A Right.
• 1:07:35
  It's a weirdly compelling motivation for the worst
• 1:07:37
  character. Stop it.
• 1:07:39
  Like do something different. Yeah.
• 1:07:43
  All of the all the Maggoth Lords are also in the, like, Glotkin
• 1:07:46
  zone of like, we made these cool big models for the end times.
• 1:07:49
  We're going to justify a reason why they're here.
• 1:07:51
  So they haven't done a ton in AOS, but I think they have kind
• 1:07:53
  of an interesting, like, backstories.
• 1:07:56
  Yeah. I don't hate that.
• 1:07:57
  They're fun to talk about. Yeah.
• 1:07:59
  Yeah, our last big named Nergal guy and big is the operative
• 1:08:03
  word here. Yeah.
• 1:08:05
  He also looks like the Great Horn King from Black College.
• 1:08:08
  Yeah, he's got the piece and everything.
• 1:08:12
  The last one we're going to talk about today is Rodigus
• 1:08:15
  Rainmaker. What a good name.
• 1:08:18
  Right, he's a good. He's not as good as mulch for
• 1:08:20
  the garden. Spell, but he is a Great Unclean
• 1:08:25
  1 He is a Great Unclean one of much notoriety.
• 1:08:30
  So he's just other dudes dead? Just maybe, I'm just gonna.
• 1:08:33
  Listen and tell someone tells me no I'm just gonna start saying
• 1:08:36
  shit cuz clearly that's the rule right?
• 1:08:38
  Just say something without confidence.
• 1:08:40
  You're not wrong. Rodigus is so powerful and magic
• 1:08:45
  that he refuses to carry a weapon.
• 1:08:47
  What's he holding there then? A tree.
• 1:08:49
  Okay, it's just a tree. Totally.
• 1:08:51
  Totally. Yeah.
• 1:08:52
  He doesn't use it as a weapon. He just holds it and it sprouts
• 1:08:55
  and grows and grows leaves and dies and decays and turns back
• 1:08:59
  into nothing and then sprouts and grows again.
• 1:09:02
  That's cool. Because cycles, Yeah.
• 1:09:03
  Cycles. Yeah, Radicus is the most, like,
• 1:09:07
  notable Great Unclean One for being, like, a very kindly
• 1:09:10
  figure. It's not clear if Rodigus even
• 1:09:12
  understands, like, what Nerkel is doing.
• 1:09:14
  Like, Rodigus might genuinely be just like, a benevolent figure.
• 1:09:19
  He just doesn't understand that he's a giant plague conduit.
• 1:09:22
  Yeah. Yeah, he can't help that fact.
• 1:09:24
  But hey, if the mortals on our team, then they don't hurt
• 1:09:28
  anymore. That's right, they get sick.
• 1:09:30
  That just happens. Everything gets sick.
• 1:09:32
  But we can make sure they don't hurt anymore, so that's a good
• 1:09:34
  thing. Literally he wears that like
• 1:09:36
  hood as kind of like a solemn. I have more evidence that I
• 1:09:39
  think he's this guy's dad. He carries around a tree that he
• 1:09:45
  like used to demonstrate his like Providence for growth
• 1:09:48
  instead of a weapon. That's pretty good.
• 1:09:51
  He's also followed by rain everywhere.
• 1:09:53
  That's where he gets his name. Rodagus Rainmaker.
• 1:09:56
  That's. A good name.
• 1:09:57
  Right. He's just followed by this,
• 1:10:00
  like, rain cloud that wherever he goes, like things grow
• 1:10:06
  bountifully and beautifully. And they're all plague ridden,
• 1:10:09
  obviously. Yeah.
• 1:10:10
  But like, genuinely watching him pass through an area, he's kind
• 1:10:14
  of gross to look on. But then that area becomes like
• 1:10:16
  a bountiful, lush like area and it's like it.
• 1:10:20
  Feels very suspicious. I mean, it is.
• 1:10:22
  I wouldn't know what to make of that.
• 1:10:23
  Listen, if you eat food that grows from radicus rain, you're
• 1:10:26
  catching the plague. Yeah, but it makes it happen,
• 1:10:30
  right? Like.
• 1:10:32
  Compost is rot, yeah. Oh yeah, like I said, Nergal,
• 1:10:36
  Nergal of all the Chaos gods has the most points in the like.
• 1:10:39
  Maybe you're not too bad like column, you're still bad.
• 1:10:43
  You're still bad, but maybe it's not intentional.
• 1:10:45
  Yeah, there's some ambiguity. It's just a happenstance of your
• 1:10:49
  entire being. Yeah.
• 1:10:51
  It's like, listen, Iceland is incredibly fertile because
• 1:10:54
  volcanic ash and that destroys a lot of stuff.
• 1:10:57
  Yep. OK.
• 1:11:00
  I'm ready for him not to be on my screen anymore.
• 1:11:02
  He's the last picture close out of that.
• 1:11:05
  That's fair. Bye bye Rodigus.
• 1:11:08
  Also because he's like kind of distinct from Nergel's vibe and
• 1:11:13
  that like growth inspiring rain, Nergel or Rodigus actually gets
• 1:11:17
  worshipped like as his own kind of distinct entity in parts of
• 1:11:22
  the world. Oh, that's interesting.
• 1:11:23
  Yeah, people will pray for, like, Rodegus to come through
• 1:11:26
  to, like, help their harvest and stuff, which I can see that it's
• 1:11:29
  fascinating because it's not usually a thing that, like,
• 1:11:31
  happens to demons of chaos scouts.
• 1:11:33
  They're usually too close to their, like, controlling entity.
• 1:11:37
  Yeah, like, it's fascinating. But yeah, that's where we're
• 1:11:42
  going to leave Nergal the immersion to Guy Ran just kind
• 1:11:46
  of very quickly overran it for Stellario back into our winter
• 1:11:50
  aspects and waiting on something to change.
• 1:11:54
  It's bad. It's bad in Guy Ran.
• 1:11:57
  It's. Really not a good place to wait
• 1:11:58
  for things to change when the Chaos demon of Stagnation is
• 1:12:00
  just rolled up and take it over, correct?
• 1:12:02
  Needs and that effect is felt pretty fast everywhere else.
• 1:12:05
  Remember, Guy Ran was providing the food for basically every
• 1:12:08
  yeah, yeah, a lot of realms had like and like big cities and
• 1:12:12
  stuff had completely divested themselves of like food making,
• 1:12:16
  enterprise relying. On Iran.
• 1:12:19
  So famine kind of erupts across all the realms pretty quick.
• 1:12:23
  Again. Guy ran into the source of Aqua
• 1:12:25
  Garanus, and so that's Nergal. Nergal starts to spread into
• 1:12:29
  other realms real quick because even mundane diseases are like
• 1:12:32
  spreading real fast, yeah. Wow, it's like a single goddamn
• 1:12:37
  person could have picked up their cell phone.
• 1:12:39
  One person could have picked up. Their phone.
• 1:12:42
  As we'll see, everyone's kind of dealing with their own shit.
• 1:12:45
  But yes, there is certainly the person who's probably best to
• 1:12:49
  fault is Gork Markov, because he just couldn't contain his nature
• 1:12:52
  anymore. And he's not Team Chaos, but
• 1:12:54
  he's not really team Yeah, it's like this.
• 1:12:56
  I want to destroy stuff. That's super cool.
• 1:12:59
  Why don't you? Go do that here, right?
• 1:13:01
  Come to Guy Ray. And destroy these things here.
• 1:13:04
  Kick knurgo demons over and over again, yeah.
• 1:13:06
  Yeah, like it's not just that I can't not destroy anymore.
• 1:13:09
  I get it. That's the way you are.
• 1:13:10
  Like, I'm not going to say don't be you, right?
• 1:13:12
  Like be you. You were Born This Way, but you
• 1:13:16
  also we're supposed to prioritize not letting chaos
• 1:13:22
  destroy everything. Yeah, again.
• 1:13:24
  He. You used to be two dudes and now
• 1:13:27
  you're 1 dude. He's tired of being under the
• 1:13:29
  yoke of Sigmar is a big part of it.
• 1:13:32
  He's tired that Sigmar has built walls around the whole world
• 1:13:35
  like. Yeah.
• 1:13:36
  No, that's fair. Honestly, he would never admit
• 1:13:39
  it, but he's mad that Sigmar like Kayode his friend.
• 1:13:41
  Yeah, well, don't. And he, he coded him to it,
• 1:13:43
  yeah. Don't don't super dog dare your
• 1:13:45
  buddy right to go try to fight Sigmar.
• 1:13:47
  Right, I don't know. Man, yeah, everyone is like
• 1:13:50
  dealing with their own thing. But like, sometimes you're going
• 1:13:52
  to step back and see the bigger picture and it's like, hey, you
• 1:13:54
  know, what's the place where everyone gets their food goes
• 1:13:56
  down, then it doesn't matter. It's a lot worse what we do on
• 1:14:00
  desert places because we don't have food anymore.
• 1:14:02
  So maybe we got to make a time sacrifice here to go save the
• 1:14:06
  food place, right? Just it's bad.
• 1:14:10
  It's bad. This is also, I'm gonna mention
• 1:14:12
  it real quick because we talked about like Gorka Marker going
• 1:14:14
  off on his. Ramp like Sigmar lost to Nix.
• 1:14:16
  He shouldn't even have gotten past the first.
• 1:14:17
  He should have lost to TMS. We're gonna start to see Sigmars
• 1:14:20
  like the cracks in Sigmars stuff here in a little bit.
• 1:14:25
  It's all good plans, it's all good intentions, but he's not a
• 1:14:28
  perfect like Do. You.
• 1:14:29
  I don't know if we get a call to plan anymore.
• 1:14:32
  It's barely a concept. It would.
• 1:14:35
  Sigmar had a plan. That's why Azir is fine is the
• 1:14:39
  issue. Part of the issue is that Azir
• 1:14:40
  is fine, but everywhere else is falling apart and that's bad.
• 1:14:45
  I'm going to mention it real quick here, just because we're
• 1:14:47
  already talking about Gorka Murka.
• 1:14:50
  This is actually where in Age of Sigmar we see Gorkumarka split
• 1:14:55
  again. Yeah, so the orcs were content
• 1:14:58
  to like, all follow Gorkumarka on his grand hunt, all the
• 1:15:02
  orchestra tribes working together.
• 1:15:04
  The thing that keeps Gorkumarka together is all the orchestra
• 1:15:06
  tribes working together. As it becomes less clear that
• 1:15:09
  Gorka Worka has like a clear target, has specific stuff that
• 1:15:12
  he's doing and he's just breaking stuff, orcs kind of
• 1:15:16
  revert back. To you.
• 1:15:18
  Well, more so the orcs revert back to kind of a sense of like,
• 1:15:21
  oh, cool, we're just brawling again.
• 1:15:23
  Like we're not on the big hunt anymore, we're just going to do
• 1:15:27
  fighting now. And a lot of them inevitably end
• 1:15:30
  up just fighting each other because orcs love that shit.
• 1:15:34
  They split into kind of three distinct groups.
• 1:15:37
  The what are known as cruel boys in the modern day and body the
• 1:15:41
  more Morkish aspect where they just want to win.
• 1:15:44
  They're very tricky and sneaky and they don't very much care
• 1:15:47
  about fighting specifically. And you know how you you beat a
• 1:15:50
  town? If you care about winning but
• 1:15:52
  not fighting, you poison the well like that.
• 1:15:56
  They split off. We get iron jaws, which want to
• 1:15:59
  fight but don't care about winning.
• 1:16:01
  They're just big and Brawley and tough.
• 1:16:05
  Iron jaws punch their armor into shape instead of smelting it
• 1:16:08
  because smelting's Morker work. Yeah, and then we get bone
• 1:16:13
  splitters who Revere that original like Gorka Morka time
• 1:16:19
  and devote themselves to being great beast hunters, and they
• 1:16:23
  just kind of go off. Honestly.
• 1:16:24
  They don't participate in the big fight fight them UPS so
• 1:16:27
  much, but that infighting amongst the orcs and orcs also
• 1:16:32
  causes the goblins to start getting a little bit antsy.
• 1:16:35
  They liked hanging on to the orcs when they were on the hunt.
• 1:16:38
  They liked providing them with supplies and doing kind of the
• 1:16:41
  more trixie more like building work.
• 1:16:44
  Goblins are generally more like putting stuff together, making
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  up plans, scheming a little bit. They enjoyed all that when it
• 1:16:51
  was part of the hunt, but now that it's just a big brawl
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  again, goblins have a tendency to get trot under foot when orcs
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  are at it, and they don't quite like that they're back to being
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  lower on the totem pole. Yeah, during this time we see a
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  big split between orcs and goblins.
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  Yeah, I can see that. They all just kind of decide to
• 1:17:10
  go their own way to the extent that in like the modern, yeah,
• 1:17:17
  in the, in the modern, like game of Age of Sigmar, they're like
• 1:17:20
  distinct armies. Yeah, yeah.
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  Because they're doing their own stuff.
• 1:17:24
  Yeah, some. It's unclear what the initial,
• 1:17:28
  like, thing that caused them all the fight was.
• 1:17:30
  My favorite account is that it was a disagreement over a
• 1:17:33
  particularly shiny spoon. Yeah, but whatever.
• 1:17:37
  It was orchestra fighting each other.
• 1:17:40
  Orchestra fighting goblins. Goblins star fighting goblins,
• 1:17:44
  and that finally, after a long time during the Age of Myth,
• 1:17:47
  causes Gorka Marker to split again and become Gorkan Mork
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  once more. And then Gorkan Mork start
• 1:17:54
  fighting because yeah, Yep. So we see we lose in a very
• 1:18:00
  short span of time. We lose Alario from the
• 1:18:03
  Pantheon. We lose Gorka Marker from the
• 1:18:05
  Pantheon. We lose Gorka Marker from like
• 1:18:08
  existing. Yeah, with Gorka Mork, both like
• 1:18:11
  doing their own thing basically and it looks pretty dire.
• 1:18:19
  Things are bad. Sigmar is like responding to
• 1:18:24
  corn emerging and actually like kind of right off the bat
• 1:18:27
  because actually doesn't have a defender, right?
• 1:18:29
  It was Grim Gore who died fighting vocal tricks, but he
• 1:18:33
  knows that Zinch is coming up in Shaman as well.
• 1:18:38
  But while all that is happening, something else is brewing over
• 1:18:44
  on HISH. I wonder.
• 1:18:47
  With the elves, yeah. Neat.
• 1:18:49
  The elves. You said, yeah.
• 1:18:51
  I wonder what could be going on over there, going on over there.
• 1:18:55
  So I hope you'll join us next episode.
• 1:18:56
  We are going to talk about the elves again and we are going to
• 1:19:00
  talk about Slanesh again. But in the meantime, there's
• 1:19:04
  been another episode of The Bad Moons Orbit.
• 1:19:06
  I am, as always, your rock bringer sorcerer Dalton
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  Montgomery. And I'm very smart and don't
• 1:19:11
  bother trying to fix the deck, it's been completely destroyed
• 1:19:13
  when the entire realm was consumed because no one could
• 1:19:16
  bother to work the fuck together.
• 1:19:18
  Look forward to see you next time.
• 1:19:20
  Thank you everybody.