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- 0:00Warning. The following podcast contains an entertaining look at astronomy, physics, and
- 0:04space news throughout the known universe. Listeners have been known to learn about astronomical
- 0:08phenomenon the scientific method and expand their vocabulary to include terms like quasar asterism and
- 0:13uranus. Listen, that's your own risk. Go ahead. Where made of
- 0:23Stars? Made of Stars? Made? Where? Made Stars? You could
- 0:33be from High Hollywood, New Mexico, Mars, Where Stars? When we
- 0:55are made of Stars? I'm West Carroll, joined by my good friend doctor
- 0:59Sean and cruising from Columbus State University's Coca Cola Space Science Center. Hey Sean,
- 1:04good morning West. It's great to be here. You know, we
- 1:07have a lot of interesting conversations today about things tied to solar systems. It's
- 1:14our solar system, but maybe some other solar systems too, So it's a
- 1:17kind of a venture into the Solar system today on Made of Stars. Well,
- 1:21let's start following up on a story we talked about last week, and
- 1:25actually we talked about prior to that, Because we talked about there was a
- 1:27lot of big launches that were scheduled to happen before the end of the year.
- 1:34One of those big launches happened last week and there's you know, so
- 1:40far so good. I guess for Russia's Luna twenty five moonlander. It's now
- 1:45reached lunar orbit. Yeah, so the launch occurred on August tenth, which
- 1:52was last week, and so they announced yesterday. Ross Cosmos did on August
- 1:57sixteen that the spaceship has arrived around the orbit of the Moon. It arrived
- 2:02in good shape as far as they can tell. And this is Russia's first
- 2:07moon mission since nineteen seventy six. This mission is called Luna twenty five.
- 2:14The previous one was called, of course Luna twenty four, but Luna twenty
- 2:19four launched in nineteen seventy six. So things, you know, in terms
- 2:23of technology, engineering, coding, all those kinds of things, things have
- 2:27advanced to tad you know, in that interim time and so of nearly fifty
- 2:31years, by the way, so it's still to be seen whether or not
- 2:37this orbiter, and it's probe this sitting down to the service will actually be
- 2:42able to land because Russia just hasn't landed anything, particularly on the Moon in
- 2:49a very long time. So so yes, they they're good at spacecraft and
- 2:53you know, we see the Russian space program and having a lot of success
- 2:55in orbit around our own planet, but we haven't seen them. I have
- 3:00a ton of success landing vehicles on other worlds. So as we move now
- 3:05into the next phase of the Lunar twenty five mission, we are going to
- 3:08be watching very carefully to see how the landing system works. Right. So,
- 3:14ross Cosmos put out a statement today It says all Lunar twenty five systems
- 3:19are functioning normally, communication with it is stable, and sessions are being taken
- 3:24to measure the current navigational parameters. So they're just they know it's there,
- 3:30they know it's in safe orbit. They're just kind of maneuvering the vehicle and
- 3:32making sure that everything's working right now. So so yes, it looks like
- 3:37Russia has now put something into orbit around the Moon and they will now move
- 3:42into the face where they're going to be dropping that lander. And you know,
- 3:45I mean russ Cosmos, Russia, I know there. I know that
- 3:52they're affiliated their kin organizations. Ross Cosmos is the Russian space agency, but
- 3:57I like to kind of think of ross Cosmos as a bit separate from Russia,
- 4:00the nation that's playing some shenanigans around the world right now. The rose
- 4:05Cosmos Space Agency has been a close partner with NASA, and it's had lots
- 4:11of common investigations both in lower orbit and in the Solar System. So maybe
- 4:17I guess I'm rooting for, you know, a safe landing. I'd like
- 4:20to see more data and more science about the Moon come out. The vehicle
- 4:25is going to be particularly hunting for water ice in the neighborhood of the Moon's
- 4:30south pole, so this is as kind of you know, main mission as
- 4:33it goes down in the lands in the lunar south pole region. So yeah,
- 4:38I guess I want to know more about what water rice is down there
- 4:40around the south pole of the Moon, and if it's the Russians that are
- 4:43providing it, all the better. So you talked about their lack of success
- 4:48with landing things on the Moon and being able to consistently do that or be
- 4:53able to I mean that would be ultimately why they never put human beings on
- 4:58the Moon becau as they weren't able to ever really master that, right,
- 5:02Yeah, and more pointedly their lunar rocket, which was you have to have
- 5:10a really big rocket that has a lot of payload capacity to be able to
- 5:14blast off both humans and all the camping equipment that they need to go to
- 5:18another world. Right, So there's you know, lots of tents and you
- 5:21know, walking sticks and Bunsen burners and whatever camp camp stoves, whatever you
- 5:29take to the Moon, twinkies. There's a lot of stuff you need when
- 5:30you go up there. So you have to have a very large heavy lift
- 5:34rocket. Now, Russia was building one called the N one at about the
- 5:40same time that we were building the Saturn five here in America that took our
- 5:44Apollo missions to the Moon. The N one rocket that the Russians were working
- 5:48on never worked. It exploded on the launch pad and killed many of the
- 5:54technicians and engineers who were working on it, including mister Karlov who was ahead
- 6:00of their space program at the time. So so yes, they didn't have
- 6:03a lot of success with that takeoff with human They have also not had a
- 6:09lot of success landing vehicles on other worlds like Mars. They have they have,
- 6:15well, my friends got Norman here at the Space Science Center. He
- 6:16likes the term augur in. They have augured in many spacecraft into the surface
- 6:21of the planet Mars, trying to land at Temple landings there, and they've
- 6:27argued in quite frankly, a couple into the lunar surface as well. So
- 6:30so whether it can there's no question it took off, there's no question that
- 6:32it got into orbit. Whether that vehicle can land safely on the Moon's surface
- 6:36and actually begin to send back some of the data that it was designed to
- 6:40take remains to be seen. All right, let's this is my favorite story
- 6:45of the week by far. So NASA's New Horizons is going to go around
- 6:51to the dark side of the planet Uranus. Dare I say to the rear
- 6:57of Uranus and investigate? I was pretty sure you would, dare So.
- 7:04I hate to be so predictable, but you give me a story that says
- 7:09they're going to be looking at the dark side of your rainus and I can't
- 7:13help, but you know, run with it. So I feel like i'd
- 7:16like to set your I like to set your volleyball spikes. Yeah, that
- 7:19was a nice job, and I was gonna say, I can't take full
- 7:23responsibility for it when you're just feeding me like this, So you know,
- 7:27I gotta I gotta deliver the spike. There's the spike. So New Horizons
- 7:30is going to be investigating Uranus on the dark side of it, on the
- 7:34dark side, so to speak. Yeah, this story is in space dot
- 7:38Com by the way, if you want to go out and read it.
- 7:41And they didn't. They didn't turn away from that joke either, so they
- 7:45kind of use that joke in their story. So I figured it's it's fair
- 7:46game for us too. So what's really happening is the New Horizons spacecraft was
- 7:51designed to go out to the now dwarf planet Pluto. It's interesting that the
- 7:58planet was still a planet when at launched, but by the time it got
- 8:01there it had been downgraded to a dwarf planet anyway. So so New Horizons
- 8:05did a great job photographing Pluto and gave us a really good idea of all
- 8:09the magnificent surface features on that world. But now it is far beyond the
- 8:15orbit of Pluto. It's heading out of our Solar System, and what it's
- 8:18doing is it's turning back toward the direction of its origin, towards the Earth
- 8:22or towards the Sun, and it's going to take those photographs, as you
- 8:26said, of both both of what we call the ice giant planets, both
- 8:31Urinus and Neptune, and we would kind of consider that from behind because it's
- 8:35going to be the non Sun facing side. Okay, so that's the setup.
- 8:41Now, remember that the planet's Urinus and Neptune have only been photographed from
- 8:48space vehicles. In other words, they've only been visited twice, and that
- 8:54was by the same space vehicle. That was by Voyage or two, which
- 8:58by the way, we talked about this last time. But they have re
- 9:01established contact with Voyager two. They lost contact with Voyager two for a bit
- 9:05over the last couple of weeks, but now they have re established it.
- 9:07Anyway, So Voyager Voyager two back in nineteen eighty six and then again in
- 9:11nineteen eighty nine did flybys of the planets Uranus and Neptune and got images of
- 9:18those worlds that we now use. It's kind of the fiduciary images, so
- 9:22to speak. There's sort of the standard images of those planets that you might
- 9:26see out there. So now we have new horizons out far beyond the orbit
- 9:31of Uranus and Neptune. But in September they'll be turning that spacecraft again back
- 9:37towards the Sun facing side or back toward the interior of the Solar System,
- 9:41and they're going to use a device called the Multi Spectral Visible Imaging Camera or
- 9:46the m VIC to point back at the planets and get some data on those
- 9:50two worlds, which we just haven't had a lot of visits too. We
- 9:54don't know. There's still lots of mysteries out there. So the spacecraft is
- 9:58actually kind of far from those worlds. It's about five billion miles from Earth
- 10:01anyway. It's also kind of far from those other planets as well, but
- 10:05those sensitive cameras aboard will be able to take the data necessary to help us
- 10:09further our understanding of what are now known as the Ice Giant worlds. The
- 10:16m VIC. The m VIC not named after Michael Vick. It not that
- 10:20I know of, Okay, so I wasn't there that day, so I
- 10:24can't really tell you better. So they didn't. They can't use the nickname
- 10:28Ron Mexico. Like. That's not an option either as an alias. It's
- 10:31not so long. I don't know that it could be could be an option.
- 10:35A long way to go to get to a Ron Mexico joke. That's
- 10:37all I wanted to do was just reference that. By the way, So
- 10:41something interesting about this endeavor with the Uranus and Neptune is that they are going
- 10:46to be simultaneously observing those two worlds with the Hubble space telescope, but they're
- 10:52also asking other observatories around the world, including any amateur astronomers that have sufficiently
- 10:58large telescopes, to also provide simultaneous data of those worlds. So listen.
- 11:05If you're out there listening to the podcast and you're an amateur astronomer and you
- 11:07want to know if you can contribute, check out the story on space dot
- 11:11com. There's a link in there to the New Horizons program at the Southwest
- 11:16Research Institute in Boulder, Colorado, and you might be able to actually contribute
- 11:20data to this continuing coverage of Urinus and Neptune by the New Horizons spacecraft.
- 11:28So they're gonna get it ready to take a picture of the exact same moment.
- 11:31Is that what they're gonna do? Everybody three, two, one,
- 11:33click, and then they could make one of those remember the Gap commercial when
- 11:37they were doing the they were dancing and they throw them in the air and
- 11:39they'd spend the camera and that's how they do that. They all take a
- 11:41picture all the way, so they could do that of these planets, that
- 11:46would be great. I mean, it could be and you know, they're
- 11:48they're basic. I don't know about the simultaneity, but they basically want,
- 11:52you know, observations that are roughly correlated with the time of the observations that
- 11:56are being made by by the vehicle out in space. So so, but
- 12:01it's just kind of a fun thing to say, Hey, we acknowledge the
- 12:05fact that there are many amateurs out there who are getting high quality images and
- 12:11we would like to invite them to contribute to our science mission. I think
- 12:13that's just a great thing. It's Alan Stern who's always been the principal investigator
- 12:18of the New Horizon spacecraft, and he is at the Southwest Research Institute in
- 12:22Boulder, Colorado. And again it's a it's just a hat tip to all
- 12:26those amateurs because they know they can get good data from all of those telescopes
- 12:31around the world. Yeah, that's fantastic. Let's talk about Io, the
- 12:35Juno probe getting a new image of this moon of Jupiter. Yeah. So
- 12:41Io is a moon that's been photographed many times by several different spacecraft, but
- 12:46it's also the most dynamic surface of any world in the Solar System, and
- 12:52really that includes the Earth. In other words, the surface of Io is
- 12:56changing more often and more violently even then Earth's surface with all of its erosion
- 13:03and water oceans and things like that. And that's because Io is just slap
- 13:07jam packed with giant volcanoes all over its surface, and so those volcanoes are
- 13:13more or less continuously erupting, and they are more or less continuously repaving or
- 13:18recovering the surface of that planet Io. So any feature on Io is likely
- 13:24to be a new feature, right, And so taking more and more images
- 13:28of Io just gives us a better look at the processes that are taking place
- 13:33around these volcanic systems on its surface. Why does Io have volcanoes, Well,
- 13:37it's not for the same reason the Earth does. Io's volcanoes are actually
- 13:43caused by the tidal heating taking place by the enormously strong gravitational field of the
- 13:50parent planet Jupiter. And Io is just close enough that it gets continuously squeezed
- 13:54and stretched like a rubber ball, which heats up its interior causes these volcanos
- 14:01all over the surface. Now, according to NASA's Planetary Science Division, imager
- 14:07aboard the Juno spacecraft. That Juno Cam caught a glimpse of a volcanic plume
- 14:13from a volcano named Prometheus in this latest set of images. And so Prometheus
- 14:18is a volcano that's been nicknamed the Old Faithful of Io and that's because it
- 14:22has very regular series of eruptions. They can count on this one volcano erupting,
- 14:28erupting at a certain time frame that is more or less known, and
- 14:33so they were able to then, point Juno added, capture an eruption of
- 14:37Prometheus, and that the analysis of that material coming out of that volcano gives
- 14:43us an insight into the interior of that moon, which then tells us more
- 14:48about how Moon's form, which then tells us more about how the Solar system
- 14:50formed. And so you see, it's a really good pathway for science to
- 14:56help us better understand our world and the Solar system which it grew up.
- 15:01Let's talk about this new comet that's making its way to us be naked eye
- 15:09visible maybe next month. Yeah, that just means you don't need a telescope
- 15:13to see it, although certainly telescopes and binoculars enhance the view, but you
- 15:18might be able to capture a glimpse of the unaided eye. And so it
- 15:22was a comet that was discovered this year, earlier this year by a Japanese
- 15:26amateur astronomer. So here's another amateur astronomer making contributions. By the way,
- 15:31his name is Hideo Nishimura. And so now it's called Comet Nishimura, or
- 15:37in the catalog parlance, it's Comet C twenty twenty three P one anyway,
- 15:41so all those all those things have meaning. But obviously it's discovered in a
- 15:46year twenty twenty three, and so it has been visible at least since August
- 15:52fifteen. That's when some photographs started rolling in again from these amateur astronomers.
- 15:56Forecasters believe that Comet Nishimura will brighten to the third magnitude by the middle of
- 16:02next month, which is September. So check out spaceweather dot com. They're
- 16:07going to be following the story of Comet Nishimura. That's where this story came
- 16:11from that I'm reading you. One of the other interesting things from the spaceweather
- 16:15dot com article is that this commet may actually have what's called a hyperbolic orbit,
- 16:22or it is a hyperbolic comet, which means simply this, it's coming
- 16:26in at such an angle and at such speed toward the Sun that it basically
- 16:32has too much energy after it whips around the Sun to stay in our solar
- 16:36system. So this is a one and done commet. It's not ever going
- 16:41to pass back by. It's going to fly by the Sun and be slung
- 16:45outside of our solar system to travel maybe to other solar systems someday, right,
- 16:51but just out into the depths of space in the distances between stars.
- 16:55We called that the interstellar medium. So the commet will only be visiting us
- 17:00one time, so you better catch it in mid September or you're gonna miss
- 17:03out on your chance. That's kind of a grim outlook for it. I
- 17:10mean, you get one appearance on one shot and that's it. There's uh
- 17:15no no future for this thing to come by again. That's that's not that
- 17:18sounds so bleak. Well it does it first glimpse, But you have to
- 17:23remember that comets really like dark, cold places. Yeah, you know,
- 17:26they when they get near the Sun, they kind of feel like Frosty the
- 17:30snowman inside the greenhouse. They're not really happy in there. Yep. Pretty
- 17:33soon all it's left as a top hat and a flower, so you know
- 17:36that it's one of those things where the comet really wants to be back out
- 17:40away from the sun, so it's only gonna have one pass by the Sun
- 17:42and then it gets to go for some close to infinite time back out to
- 17:48the depths of space where it's nice and cold. And as far as this
- 17:51catalog number, I'm assuming the C stands for comet. Yes, twenty twenty
- 17:56three is obviously the year. What's the P P stand for it? So
- 18:00this is the P one is the type of comment that it is, and
- 18:03it's a it's kind of a little bit of a complicated designation. But but
- 18:07but the letters following the year tell you what type of comment it is.
- 18:11And again this is a hyperbolic comment, so it falls into that category.
- 18:14Gotcha, all right? Just trying to I mean, I'm looking at it
- 18:15as you're talking about the catalog number, and I'm like, I understand most
- 18:18of this. I was just curious about what that last part of it is.
- 18:22Uh, coming up after a quick break, a quadruple star system being
- 18:27born has been captured by astronomers. We'll talk about that right after this so
- 18:56quadruplets being born out in a deep space astronomers capturing a quadruple star system being
- 19:03born. This is pretty exciting. One baby, two babies, three babies,
- 19:07four babies. Sounds like rabbits. The interesting thing, though, is
- 19:12this is like having four little chicks inside the same egg. That would be
- 19:18weird. I don't I'm not I'm not a you know, an agrarian,
- 19:22so I don't have that kind of background. I'm not really a I didn't
- 19:26grow up on a farm or anything, so I don't know if four chicks
- 19:29can be in the same egg or not. I was glad you knew that
- 19:30I was gonna say chicken ologist because I don't. I don't know that term,
- 19:33So there you go. Well, what I would say is this that
- 19:38stars aren't chickens. They kind of do their own thing. So within the
- 19:41same clump of gas, though, of in a nebula, which is a
- 19:45space cloud. Nebulas are primarily hydrogen gas mixed with dust, and within a
- 19:52clump of that hydrogen gas mixed with dust, you could have multiple stars forming
- 19:56at the same time. In fact, multiple stars forming out of those clumps
- 20:02is actually more common than single stars forming. So our son being a single
- 20:07star and not having a binary or trinary or quadruple companion system is actually kind
- 20:12of an oddball. It's it's in the minority anyway on that end of things.
- 20:17All right, So there's the group of researchers called the Alma Survey of
- 20:22Oriyon Plunk Galactic Cold Clumps or Alma SOP for short. Good thing they did
- 20:30something short, right, And by the way, if you if you don't
- 20:33what Alma is, Alma is the is an acronym for a microwave observatory down
- 20:40in Chile in the Onacama Desert, and so so anyway that that acronym is
- 20:44for that. So Almah, the Alma Survey of Orian Plank Galactic Cold Clumps,
- 20:48or the Alma SOP team recently observed something that they found inside the clump
- 20:56of one of these hot, glowing lumps of gas in the ryan nebula.
- 21:00We call them eggs in astronomy, that stands for evaporating gaseous globule. So
- 21:08that's yet another acronym. So withinside this egg is a quadruple star system,
- 21:15four stars being borne together, all orbiting around a common center of mass within
- 21:22one clump of gas. In the star forming regions inside the Orion constellation.
- 21:27That is like hitting a six bank pool shot my friend to find all that
- 21:33going on at the same time. So it's a really interesting story and it's
- 21:36a really fantastic observation from the Alma stop group. And the discovery was made
- 21:41during high resolution surveys of seventy two of these dense cores or these evaporating gaseous
- 21:48globules or these eggs that are inside the Orion giant molecular cloud. And so
- 21:55the Autacama Large Millimeter Array or the Alma telescope in Chile is the one that
- 22:00caught that particular view the Alma survey of Orion plunk galactic cold clumps. I
- 22:10just wanted to do it one time. It's a lot, it's a mouthful,
- 22:11there is a lot going on there. I've known people with last names
- 22:15like that, middle and last names, so it kind of felt like it
- 22:18was, you know, reading names at a graduation. I just wanted to
- 22:22just kind of run through it one time. So the rarity of this,
- 22:27and then obviously the fact that they were able to capture this, I guess
- 22:32is what's fascinating because obviously this could have happened before. No one happened to
- 22:37be looking in that direction. That's true. The you know, the Alma
- 22:42array itself is a relatively new instrument, and so it's giving us some ideas
- 22:48of the capability of that large milimeter array in the Atacama Desert in Chile,
- 22:52and so so it's it's opening up new doors of research by being able to
- 22:57see into places we weren't able to see before, right, And so when
- 23:00you do that, then you find these weird things like, oh my gosh,
- 23:04there's four protostars. We see them in the very very early stages of
- 23:10formation, and we see them all inside the same clump of gas. And
- 23:15again that's a that's like a very fancy pool shot to be able to have
- 23:18all of those circumstances align. And why do we care about that, Well,
- 23:22it's because when we study these stars in formation, it teaches us about
- 23:26the mechanisms by which these star systems, either binary stars or multiple star systems,
- 23:30actually form within these clouds of gas, which leads us to information about
- 23:34the study of ctell revolution, which leads us to information about the history of
- 23:38our own son and how other stars form out there in the galaxy. So
- 23:44that's why we want to know, because it's fundamental research that leads us down
- 23:48interesting roads to compared to objects that are right here in our inside our own
- 23:52solar system. Let's talk comic books and toys, shall we? We should
- 23:59do that because we have a pretty cool deal going on. We actually have
- 24:03a Columbus Comic book and toy show happening on the twenty seventh of this month
- 24:07of August, and ladies and gentlemen, if you go online and buy your
- 24:12tickets ahead of time, you can take advantage of a dual marketing circumstance with
- 24:19the River Center here in town, where they have a very very cool event
- 24:23taking place the night before, on the Saturday night, they have Spider Man
- 24:29into the Spider Verse playing in their large Bill Hurd Theater. But wait,
- 24:33there's more a cool movie already. But they actually have a live orchestra playing
- 24:38all of the music in real time with the movie. So you can go
- 24:44hear the soundtrack play live by an orchestra while you're watching the Spider Man movie
- 24:51inside the River Center. And again, if you buy your tickets, you
- 24:55get a discount to that event, and you also get a discount to our
- 24:59Columbus Comic Book Toy Show, which is the very next morning leven am on
- 25:03Sunday, will begin that and if you want to have an early preview,
- 25:07you can also get an upgrade for that and come in and there'll be all
- 25:11kinds of vendors of both comic books and toys inside the exhibit gallery of the
- 25:15hollowed halls of the Coca Cola Space Science Center. There will also be all
- 25:18kinds of costume characters and sci fi fund check out all the information for this
- 25:25on the website, Ladies and gentlemen of Columbus State University's Coca Cola Space Science
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- 25:41you can go follow to a link that will tell you all about the
- 25:45information for the Columbus Comic Book and Toy Show. It should be a great
- 25:48time. It always is. We thank you for listening and we'll do it
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