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I've been thinking a lot about the shower scene in Starship Troopers this
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week I bet you have I think a lot about that scene quite often welcome to
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multiple nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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Things
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nerdy is that cuz you're friends with uh Johnny Rico now
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J Rico no it's actually because as we all know the director got naked for the
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filming that i' I've started to think like why that sounds like look I'm going
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to get naked as well to make you all comfortable I think that makes it more
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creepy yeah it does I actually didn't know that story is that uh is that what
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happened yeah I've heard that before yeah he didn't want everyone to feel
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uncomfortable so he was like we're all doing it but yeah now I'm thinking about it
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more like there's a guy who has no reason to be naked sitting there naked
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go do that again do it slower faster and more intense yeah it's
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like Dana Maya had to uh get a tits out so he's like by the way while your tits
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are out I want my dick exposed I will also you will know you
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will know how good your performance is by how my dick is
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behaving I don't yeah that's just you been thinking about that a lot this week
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I get you but I mean look at the look at the result uh oh yes I think Paul vovin
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uh apart from show Girls uh has done very
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well he's the only director I think maybe maybe not these days but for a
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long time he was the only director to show up and accept his razi
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award that's great did he get it for show girls did he man he must have been
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nude all the time in that
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that's that's how he got the idea for it one scene in Starship Troopers he gets
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it off and one scene in Total Recall you know he's got it out um but you know
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show Girls Christ well Basic Instinct right he did so oh he he just had a mini
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skirt on for part of
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that cross leg in
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RoboCop in Robocop you cross I uncross
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I think there's nudity in rer cot the [ __ ] leave scene shot
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himself the only nudity I can think of is where that guy gets um [ __ ] melted
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by toxic waste has he got clothes on when when he's this like gross goopy he
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gave me nightmares as a child mostly just a bit where he gets hit by the car
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it's so juicy and yeah he just explodes it's amazing no one did violence like
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the80s no and like if you watched like
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you watch the remake of Robocop and he goes out like a little
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[ __ ] like a little explosion happens near him what it's PG-13 isn't it the
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new one I think it might have because everything has to be these
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days oh you don't want to offend anyone man no lowest common denominator I
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didn't mind the new Robocop I liked elements I mind it like the fact that he
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was made in China that was [ __ ] great yeah he skapes from the factory and he's
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in a rice Patty field that was that was neat and I loved the bit where he you're
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probably going to say the same thing go ahead where you see what's left of him
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basically mhm yeah where it's like what is real still and it's like your face
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never show me that again part of one hand [ __ ] me and his lungs I think were
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there right oh God very I found that gave me nightmares yeah body do you
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think it's the reason why a lot of these movies are now PG-13 is because like
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when we were growing up it didn't really matter it was an hour we got to see it
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but now parents are maybe not letting their kids watch this stuff so I don't
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know if that's true man parents don't seem to give a [ __ ] these days parents
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don't seem to give a [ __ ] anything these days but then again I used to watch lot
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of R movies like Robocop and yeah they was we all saw them as children yeah we
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had a weird loophole in my house my mom was completely against me watching our
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red movies unless I had seen that movie before and then it didn't matter so all
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I would do is say cop I've already I've already watched it at my friend's house
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she' be like H well fine then you can rent it
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fine I remember the I watched Robocop against my parents wishes and it [ __ ]
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traumatized me the first time we've talked about this before yeah cuz uh
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just prove them right yeah like you're right Mom I shouldn't have watched it um
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I I recall a sleepover movie night luk you may have been there Matt we hadn't
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quite Met You Yet where former podcast host Dave um was still such a goody two
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shoes that when we put on an irrated movie I think it was nowhere to run
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starring John Claude vanam um he he announced to the group that he's not
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allowed to watch our movies and went and sat in the other room until the movie was
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over oh aliens is another one that I watched
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that yeah uh I [ __ ] loved it but I
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didn't uh the scene where you know they find the woman who's stuck in the wall
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and the chest comes out yeah that that was something as a kid that I was like
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oh God I remember the first time I watched alen
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was when I was visiting my grandparents and they went I wanted to watch a horror
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movie and I went he we got a comedy horror movie for you and they put on
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alien no way your grandparents are [ __ ] sick mate did they think they
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think they were putting on their end of space balls or something yeah that's all
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too it was just like yeah like it's don't worry there there's going to be funny bits in it
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can only Space Balls could have gotten the same actors for that scene yeah the
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real movie I just I just remember that it was John H not
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again [ __ ] terrible am I the only one who saw the second aliens before alien
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before the first one no I I definitely saw aliens first yeah same yeah and the
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reason I wanted to watch it because my brother uh my younger brother Ben
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watched it and described it to me and I was like well I've got to see this movie
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yeah at any cost that's right yeah I
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remember because yeah I mean and Aliens is definitely the cool one it's the most
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fun and exciting I prefer alien I think it's a better film but yeah I did but it
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was only after I'd seen and loved aliens that I checked that out and went oh [ __ ]
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it's a completely different movie but godamn it's good but that's yeah that
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works right because you know you're not just going to make alien again well
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these days they would but like abely right yeah you can try something new
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yeah exactly and and find out that it might even be more
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popular yeah it it is definitely the more popular one Speaking of James
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Cameron uh I watched something this week
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that he was I think he was talking about directing for a very long time uh and he
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wrote the screenplay for this uh but he didn't direct it in the end it was
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directed by Robert Rodriguez goodness I watched a battle
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Angel yesterday how was it I [ __ ] really liked it okay I've heard good
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things about it I really liked it it came out at the same time as Captain
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Marvel and unfortunately I think it kind of got lost in the you know in the in
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the in the fuss over Captain Marvel uh cuz it's all it's uh it's not similar
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really at all except it has a female protagonist uh and I feel like it's a
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better movie than Captain Marvel Captain Marvel's fine I didn't is like it but
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it's man it's like a it's cyber Punk
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it's it's about a a a a guy who's like a cyber surgeon in the in the it's not the
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future I guess it's it's like another world basically I don't know if it's
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supposed to be Earth I don't think they really bother to make that clear it
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doesn't really matter uh oh actually you know what it is Earth it must be anyway
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it doesn't matter it's not really
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relevant um he finds a cyborg at a trash
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Heap a scrapyard and rebuilds her and she doesn't remember who she is and it's
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about her trying to figure out who she is uh well that sounds great and I would
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definitely watch that uh and also van
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it's got van it does no way it does it's
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got uh Cas vanine it's got um Kristoff Waltz plays the what the the surgeon
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it's got Jennifer Connelly it's got uh oh okay uh what's his name the new blade
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he's in it um oh yeah uh God it's got quite a it's got a lot of famous people
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in it actually and and some that I I didn't even know were in it cuz they're
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not credited yeah I think it yeah I think you're right it just came out at
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the wrong time yeah it's it's good it's very like it's not not not the best
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movie I've ever seen but I really liked it and and I I encourage everybody to
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see it because it it kind of it's adapted from a manga and it could they
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could make more of them and I really hope they do I want to see I want to see
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what happens next so everybody go out and and check it out all right I will
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hopefully hopefully it can find an audience uh now after so that they'll
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let's let's just get behind it we'll just be the street team for it work
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recommend it to me and I've been meaning to sit down and watch it so all right I
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got a I got a plane trip coming up soon so I'm I might try to uh might try to
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get a hold of that yeah it's good I mean it's not perfect it's got there are
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things about that I'm like it's like a bit slow sometimes is it fun yeah yeah
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okay y great that's what I'm looking for fun yep it's definitely
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fun really liked it male 38 looking for
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fun I know a young girl called Alita that you
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might um speaking of recommending good
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Sci-Fi Luke Luke I started watching something on your recommendation this
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week and that's uh that's a TV show called yeah that's right I've just
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immersed myself in Robotech actually I have been meaning to do that to be fair
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one day me too yeah um no I started watching the
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expanse oh God it's a great show I I started watching that too but Jenna
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[ __ ] hated it and so I haven't haven't continued watching it I might
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watch some today uh it's not a that's definitely not a good reason to to stop
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watching it um I'm only a few episodes in but this is great it just keeps
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getting better and better I still want to sit down and start watching season 3
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look at I mean it's it reminds me a little bit of battl Star Galactica it
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reminds me a little bit of Mass Effect in a way like it's just it's it's an
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interesting story and it's not done so actually I thought this was on Netflix
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so I went to Netflix to watch it at first and it wasn't there and there is
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another Sci-Fi show on Netflix at the moment called Ascension and I was for
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some reason I got confused and thought that was it so I started watching that
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um yeah that's rubbish that's absolutely Gish um uh it's it's not actually
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Science Fiction it's just a soap opera in space so it actually was on Netflix
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for a while I thought so that's probably yeah yeah I thought I bookmarked it but
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it was it was gone so I had to go originally saw it okay well that makes
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more sense but man I'm really enjoying this and I can't wait to keep going and
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I want a new hat now so oh Ascension I
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that that show was awesome as well what
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yeah you got to get it's only there's only like three episodes or something is
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there yeah it's like a miniseries oh okay it's a murder mystery right this is
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the one you we're talking about the same thing yeah yeah so the girl gets the
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murdered on the on the spaceship and yeah no
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no that does get better and although it does end it ends like those shows where
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you go oh my God that's great I want to see what happens next and then there's
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no there's no sequel no season two that's fine but it was it was a good
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show look I must say from the half episode I watched of that compared to
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the like first episode of expanse like I
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was just [ __ ] hooked yeah yeah get see I I have good recommendations every
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now and again definitely do this was great and I I can't and I'm glad usually
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I start watching things well you know like Ascension where like there's only a
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couple episodes and then it ends whereas I'm glad that I'm starting to watch
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something that I already know a couple of seasons in y yeah so yeah you know
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yeah it's not not going to be those ones where you get excited you're enjoying it
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and then yeah they don't renew it and then you're left there just thinking
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what could have been it might
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oh Capra I liked Capra a lot I never
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watched cpra Capra started off so slow
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yeah but it just slowly kept ramping up and and up but just the concepts in it
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and everything were just like I really liked it but I guess it was just not
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what was the other one the other spin-off from battl star that wasn't
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cpra there was another series as well right yeah I think you're there wasn't
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there just another mov um cuz there was blood and Blood and
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Chrome I've seen that Blood and Chrome oh yes that's what I want I've seen that
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too but I don't I don't think I watched
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Capra is it set before like is it set
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yes yeah yeah be interested in that yeah
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it's got like a dharm as a child and
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what oh it goes wait Leah dama or no no
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no no like uh what's like [ __ ] Admiral ad Admiral yeah oh man it's it's him
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growing up [ __ ] oh man I got to go to Italy and get this after
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expanse yes but yeah you will but you have been warned that there is no second
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season to that and if you at the end of it they go on the next season and they
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show all this awesome stuff yeah that's
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happen yeah that's a shame I watched uh something else on Netflix this week as
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well that I I will recommend and it's probably not I've never recommended
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anything quite like this before it's uh it's an Indian series called
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typewriter uh and it is about it's kind
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of like a horror ghost kind of show uh with uh it's all it's you know takes
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place in India and they they speak uh I've never watched really I guess an
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Indian show before they speak Hindi kind of just mixed in with English
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and which I found really fascinating that aspect of it was fascinating too
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but actually it's actually really funny um good kind of horror show like
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reminded me of kind of like a I guess Goosebumps is not super serious but it
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is it's definitely like it's it's got some uh I guess sort of bloody bits and
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whatnot it's definitely an adult show but it's it's kind of a little bit Goofy
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and fun uh it's about a ghost in a in a house um I don't want to give too much
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away uh I it was really good we watched there only like five episodes of it uh
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okay and you would probably want to watch it with subtitles so Luke won't
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watch it because he hates reading is it is there a dub version so
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that Luke can watch it I actually don't know but also I don't think I can even
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watch dub diversions I tried watching Dark that way and I think a lot of the
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charm of it for me was in the fact that that sometimes I could make I I knew
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what they were saying and other times I didn't like it was that kind of added to
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the The Experience depends how closely you're willing to watch
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it yeah I mean yeah it has subtitles and then every now and then they're just
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speaking English and you're like oh I don't need the subtitles but then they
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like mids sentence switch back and forth I really fasinating I actually didn't
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know that they I mean I guess that must be just how they speak mhm yeah they
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they do that here too they they they speak what they call Singlish which is
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combination of uh the Singaporean languages and English um fascinating yep
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I've got it typewriters my list now um three keywords that you know Netflix
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always assigns three keywords so that you can uh search horror keeping
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secrets [Music]
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TV yeah it's got the the protagonists
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are a group of kids uh so it's kind of like that it's like it's not really like
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stranger things at all or or and it except that it's you know it's about
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kids they're kind of protagonists uh except the kids in India uh and that
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makes them like kind of instantly interesting because I don't know
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anything about that and so it's yeah I don't know it's just it was good I
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enjoyed it absolutely all right I'll add that to my list too Luke uh any science
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fiction series you're looking forward to um well they're finally they're finally
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getting the the Halo television shows finally happening M they've announced
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cast now oh have they who in it and any anybody
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known Yes actually uh the person who's
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going to play Kotana yes Natasha
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Melone I can help pronounce her name you know herone I'm looking I'm looking at the
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name let me yeah copy and paste this so
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I can see a picture of her you know her oh she's been in things she's from
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[ __ ] um trian show yeah yeah so she's going to play
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Dr Katherine Hy and Cortana oh she's from uh
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Californication mhm I seen that I watch the first season yeah it
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was worth watching at the start and it kind of tapered off a bit I wouldn't go
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back to it necessarily now plus with the woke culture that we currently live in I
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doubt you'll find it anywhere anymore sure all right like so they're
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going to start shooting later this year but we still don't get to see it till
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2021 just seems a very long time they do take a little longer to make shows these
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I mean even they even wait more than a
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year between Seasons now yeah well like they did that with westw didn't they
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yeah I mean they said Don't expect Westworld season 3 anytime soon yep
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we're going to make it when we're ready and you will love it yeah and that's
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what I like it's if if it the quality we get is good then I don't mind
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waiting I do get frustrated at waiting as well there's enough yeah if there's
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enough other stuff on then uh you know tide me
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over yeah but no I'm really looking forward to this CU if they do it right
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it's actually it's the whole Halo series is actually quite an interesting story
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see I always got I don't know I never the story never stuck with me when I was playing
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the games I guess just I don't know I I I didn't enjoy what was that podcast
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that came out oh see see with that podcast I forget what it was called but
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if you had continueed listening yeah and if you when you finish it like it starts
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off that oh he's just this kid who can do everything but then it just turns
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into a no they actually track down and they find out that they were all
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kidnapped as children and yeah I think I might have said first I think you had
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mentioned it I wish I could remember the name of the podcast but it it it was
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kind of like delving into the it's the story of Master Chief right and they
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went back to to kind of learn about him and then and it started off as just this
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propaganda story and I was like this is [ __ ] stupid it's just like just you
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know but then it turns out that's the point is that as it goes on you find out
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it's me to be stupid yes yeah cuz the even the whole thing about it is like
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even when they were all kidnapped his children there were no Covenant there
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were no aliens these were super soldiers being they being basically bred and
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brought up to fight other humans
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yeah to basically stop Uprising on the outer worlds and things that's and then
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as it went on the guy who's reporting on Master Chief is discovering that
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actually that's not the story of Master Chief and it's just much darker more
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[ __ ] up story and I and actually yeah I really enjoyed that there was a movie
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I watched recently that was like that can't remember what it was though I
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watched Halo un Dawn and really loved that I haven't seen that it was good I
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know I I told you before I don't know like I said halo I just I don't know for
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some reason the story just yeah look I mean I never got into any of the games
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but uh under Dawn was was a good watch it reminded me a little bit of Starship
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Troopers like okay like I've read the I've played the games I've read the
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books like yeah I'm fully into the Halo franchise and that's why I can't wait
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yeah I'm really hoping they do this well maybe I need to give it another chance well
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it Steven Spielberg so I mean the man knows how to make a [ __ ] film that's
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true and I think this is going to make a better television series than it would a
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movie yeah I think cuz this St will be able to get a lot more story into it
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whereas the movie is hey he's going to run around and shoot aliens yeah they
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would try and just make Halo the movie and adapt the game and make it bad yeah
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MH it end up being like the Doom movie yes
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[Music] well speaking of the Doom movie uh
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starring Dwayne The Rock Johnson oh yeah I saw this article this week
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about uh you know you got all the [ __ ] faster Furious movies coming out
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of every orifice at this point yeah I think in the future all movies will just
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be fast and furious spin-offs um but they've got uh what's the Hobs and Shaw
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when I first when I first heard there was a Hobs and Shaw and it was starring
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uh you know Jason Stam and and The Rock I I haven't seen enough of The Fast and
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Furious movies to know that those characters from that I in my head I was
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thinking of Calvin and Hobbs I would love and I was like
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they're doing that as a movie and it Stars Jason St and The Rock and El is
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the villain
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what I was all in yeah that's [ __ ]
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awesome well this AR article uh was basically about how [ __ ] Macho these
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guys are and how there's so many of
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these [ __ ] action star males in this film and they all have these very strict
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requirements about like basically like how many times they can be punched
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versus how many punches they have to give it back and stuff like that yeah no
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apparently it's very very intense their contracts are very specific um and it
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even says apparently Jason STM in particular will show up in editing to
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check on the fight scenes and and be like well I think uh I think if you're
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going to put in that shot of me being punched in the face you need to put in
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two shots of me punching him in the face immediately
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after and that kind and uh there's like there's a section where the uh the Vin
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Diesel's sister who I think might be his manager or something was showing up for
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uh the stunt coordinators and then like his Vin Diesel's character Dominic tetto
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like gets thrown on the ground at one point and she's like he's going to get
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back up and lay into him now isn't he kind of him kind of him on the ground
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and then there was a SE a scene where this is this is why I'm leaving the film
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indust so [ __ ] stupid but like like they're GNA I don't
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know it's it just seems odd to me just [ __ ] do what fuing story demands the
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the the like as we've discussed at length on this podcast in the last few
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weeks the best Rocky movie is the one where he [ __ ] loses right yeah the
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best James Bond movies are the ones where he gets his [ __ ] head kicked in
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like that's why I always loved Indiana Jones he just got [ __ ] bashed you
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know and then he but he just kept standing up and that's what made him a
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hero not the fact that he punched twice as fast as the bad
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guys there's one about uh there's a I guess in one of them Dwayne The Rock
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Johnson I have to use his full name fights Vin Diesel and then there's this
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bit where it ends up with with um the rocks on the ground with Vin Diesel
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standing over him and then when they were shooting it there were The Rock was
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like no no no he's I'm going to be sitting up in this at least I will at
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least sitting up he's knocked me out but not out cold I'm not lying on the ground
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in front diesel I will sit on the ground oh God hold on I've only seen a
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couple of these aren't they on the same side not at first I think the The Rock
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was a villain originally well Jason ston was a villain definitely Jason ston is a
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villain is I can't even I can't even
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speak is a villain um get [ __ ] remixed um in the ones I've seen he is
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the villain so I guess more Jam one yes directed yes seven honestly this yeah
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this thing this franchise was going for like a decade and it took James Juan to
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make me watch it yeah Daddy's got to go to work that's my favorite yeah the rock
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flexes and his cast explodes off his yeah yeah he's [ __ ] in plaster
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yeah so good so yeah I wonder
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if testosterone Fest look I mean I'm not going to say we don't enjoy these movies
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Matt have you seen this one yet Hobs and no no I'm interested although
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the I don't know I I'm not going to go to the movies and watch it I'll watch it
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later would you even go to the movies if it was on say at the Alamo Draft
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House perhaps but what I I'd have to dress as Jason ston wouldn't I isn't
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that the rule that the draft has these days yeah man shave your head wear black
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but I just want to quickly before we leave great science fiction TV shows
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we've been watching I've started the Twilight Zone the new Zone the Jordan
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Peele Zone yeah yeah and it is very
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satisfying I'm really enjoying it um some of the episodes are better than
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others some are more conceptual than others um well that's sort of following
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on with the trend of the original that way yeah that's right we
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have to make it hit and miss so that people get nostalgic about it no I
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wouldn't say it's hit and miss but I I just say that the tone changes quite
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drastically between them um and some have a a political message coming
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through which is the same as the original series you had rodling putting
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his opinions through um the second episode which is
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actually not a remake but a a nod to the
28:42
old nightmare at 30,000 ft right oh yeah
28:47
um stars Matt Dan
28:52
Carlin from Hardcore History huh as you
28:57
kidding as a podcast
29:02
host and I was listening to it and I was like I was like it's Dan Carlin and she
29:07
was like okay who the [ __ ] is Dan Carl and I'm like Googling like crazy he's
29:14
[ __ ] Dan car well he's not in it like he doesn't show up oh it's just his
29:18
voice yes they part of the story is they listen to a podcast it's a fake podcast
29:24
made for the show but they got Dan Carin to do it well now I got to watch it cuz
29:29
I [ __ ] loved it well you have to you have to and it's a great episode and
29:33
listen any way oh check it out yeah yeah yeah and go back do yourself a favor he
29:39
only has a couple of back uh episodes available for free but it's very
29:45
reasonably priced if you want to buy the entire back catalog or you can just buy
29:49
groups of things like if you just like World War I you can just buy those if
29:52
you just like but [ __ ] man this guy
29:54
makes history just so compelling and he like does so much research spends so
30:01
much time on it like it's for the for the like I don't know a couple bucks it
30:05
costs to to go back and check him out it's it's [ __ ] worth it he goes into
30:10
so much swear he was there like oh yeah
30:15
like nothing nothing like man this podcast that we do is nothing like the
30:19
podcasts I listen to
30:24
same I listen to carefully curated search and scripted intellectual
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academic podcast that that describes us and and then we make
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this but anyway um sub support us on
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get in touch with us at um podcast at multi gm.com so Matt what's going on at
30:54
the Almo Draft House uh this week
30:59
uh they I guess this start I think this started with the Wonder Woman screens
31:04
which we talked about where when um Wonder Woman came out the Alo Draft
31:08
House said they were going to be doing uh female only screenings and people got
31:15
upset about it because people are weird like gives a [ __ ] um yeah but people got
31:19
upset about it and somebody tweeted or or posted on their Facebook page and
31:23
said oh will there be male only screenings of Thor Ragnarok or special
31:27
screenings for it where there's only people who identify as
31:31
clowns and they said yes there will be yeah we're going to steal that clown
31:37
idea so they did clown only screenings of it chapter
31:43
one and they will be doing the same again for it chapter 2 coming up so if
31:47
you're in the area uh and I highly you like dressing like a clown highly
31:52
recommend seeing movies at the ELO Draft House here's the thing do you have to be
31:57
a clown or can you just turn up dressed as a clown I believe you can just turn
32:02
up dressed as a clown cuz how would they know cuz remember when there the Wonder
32:06
Woman thing and there were guys like well I'm just going to turn up and
32:08
everyone's like fine whatever [ __ ] with yeah just a [ __ ] Ru for everyone yeah
32:15
yeah it's just yeah you fine Shel be a [ __ ] with who cares yeah you will be
32:21
uncomfortable because you will know that you are the [ __ ] with
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exactly uh so yeah I think this is
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fun also might make it uh even more
32:36
disturbing I found it chapter one to be quite scary like in a good way I liked
32:41
it I enjoyed it oh yeah yeah cuz you imagine seeing it Tred by clowns that's
32:46
what yeah I'm thinking that I mean that I I probably anyway I've said it before
32:50
and I'll say it again he's supposed to take on the form of whatever you're afraid
32:55
of I'm going to go as a always anybody anything yeah I'm going to go as
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my father disappointed in [Laughter]
33:06
me what does that costume look like terrify you know what it looks
33:14
like you seen my dad that's what it looks
33:18
like I know I was in a film that your dad
33:22
directed yes yep yep y mhm the less said
33:29
about that [ __ ] Masterpiece the
33:33
better it star famously St the guy who
33:36
own who ran the sex shop on uh on
33:40
[ __ ] what's he uh what's it I've been away too long Oxford Street in Sydney
33:46
yeah not just the sex shop the gay fetish sex shop yeah that guy was
33:52
literally the worst actor I've ever seen yeah that's right but he did let us film
33:57
in his gay sex shop yeah which is why he's the film to be fair there was a lot
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of gay sex and gay sex undertones in that movie yeah uh we should put that
34:10
online do you have it I think I probably got it somewhere okay in archive you
34:16
know what I actually don't know if I do let me have a look all right are we
34:20
allowed to talk about it on this podcast I don't say why not we already have yeah
34:25
very good now what's this about there being a
34:29
fourth Matrix yeah yeah it's happening uh there apparently everyone keeps the
34:36
articles are a little confusing because they keep talking to the you know the
34:40
guy who directed uh the John Wick films and I think you mentioned you pointed
34:44
out Dan I think last week that he was the stunt coordinator on The Matrix yeah that's
34:50
right uh and so they keep asking him about it so I don't know if that means
34:54
he's supposed to be directing this new Matrix film or if they're just like oh
34:57
he worked him let's ask him yeah he's he's the person who worked on them but
35:01
also will answer our calls as famous people he keeps throwing out facts about
35:06
this new Matrix movie uh so I guess that's that's the reason they're talking
35:12
about it in the context of him but he said recently apparently he was misquoted as
35:18
saying the Wiis were involved they're not but there is a fourth Matrix movie
35:24
coming or being developed and it will
35:27
either be a reboot or a sequel so we
35:32
basically know nothing at this point yeah I've just gone down the list but a
35:37
lot of this we can't talk about until the after
35:43
party guys want to talk about
35:47
Ninja Luke you're on mixer right or you on Twitch what's your what's your
35:53
pleasure I've done a little bit on Twitch and I've done a little bit on
35:55
mixer I don't do enough to be considered to be on either of them officially
36:01
you're not sponsored by either platform but ninja just made a ton of
36:05
money [ __ ] I don't I don't understand right and I don't know if you can
36:11
explain this to me or I don't know if anyone can explain this phenomenon to me
36:14
I so ninja right is a he's a streamer he plays fortnite and as far as I can tell
36:20
that's what he's most famous for doing he plays fortnite and he was one of the
36:26
the biggest streamers on Twitch uh had he's got 23 [ __ ] million subscribers
36:32
on YouTube I don't know what his numbers on Twitch were but they were very very
36:35
high uh and then Microsoft drove a reversed a dump truck full of money up
36:40
to his house yep and said will you come and stream exclusively on mixer instead
36:46
and he said sure because really who gives a [ __ ] uh and so now he's on mixer
36:51
and his numbers on mixer have been just as good so now this article is basically
36:55
saying how it's not twitch it's it's ninja that's the draw sort of thing the cult of
37:01
personality yes and I mean that's all that's great for Ninja I guess but the
37:08
thing I I was in I read the article and I was like oh what does this guy do that
37:13
that's so uh compelling and I watched a few of his videos and I [ __ ] have no
37:17
idea it's just a guy playing fortnite yeah he just plays the game and I'll be
37:22
honest like I was expecting one Charming [ __ ] and this
37:28
just a [ __ ] dude some of the some of the you know the like his announcement
37:32
video that where he said he was leaving was pretty funny like it was it was good
37:37
production quality was good but it wasn't like it didn't blow my mind I
37:42
don't I don't I don't understand why this guy is so popular like
37:46
not not that I care we just do don't understand this like it's just yeah I
37:52
just don't understand at all it's not for us yes because I always thought
37:57
right I'm not interesting enough to stream video games because I wouldn't
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watch me play video games I wouldn't watch this guy play video games he's
38:05
making millions of dollars doing it mhm yep that's true so I feel like maybe I
38:10
should have had more confidence back in the day yeah you probably could have
38:13
mind you back in the day we didn't have anyone any watching us so yeah and we
38:19
would have said something offensive there's that too is fortnite that's what I want to
38:25
know fortnite originally started off as like this game where you would sort of
38:31
sort of have to go out and collect materials uh during the day and then at
38:35
night you'd have to build up your fault when zombies would come and attack you
38:38
that was the original premise of the game really described Minecraft fine yes
38:43
um the only people that I know who play this are my friend's two kids and they
38:48
play it to learn dance
38:50
moves yeah so what happened was uh pubg
38:55
was very very popular at the time and then the people who make fortnite
39:01
went we've got this game that we don't think going to quite do well in this
39:04
format but if we turn it into a battle royale and make it a bit fun like this
39:09
and then they release it as a free game and turn it into a battle royale and we
39:15
have fortnite okay so it's the Quake three Arena of its day it's sort of part
39:20
of the reason why it does so well is it was free right yeah so I I tried to play
39:25
it a couple times and I I just don't get it uh so I honestly
39:32
don't understand these Battle Royale games at all because guys I'm I'm
39:36
looking at pictures of it here right and there's like a gnarly looking shredded
39:40
Darth Vader dude okay fine then there's a fish
39:45
right y then there's an anthropomorphic
39:49
banana like what is this the [ __ ] is this so you you you get your character
39:55
and then you get correct me if I'm wrong on anything luk or listeners podcast.com
39:59
this is you it's like a imagine an island there are probably maps that
40:05
aren't Islands but for the purpose of this right it's an island and then you
40:09
get dropped on it by you know parachute and then by you get dropped off by a bus
40:16
you jump out of the bus all right uh and then it's a battle royale and then you
40:21
can collect resources and build uh as you're attempting to kill everybody else
40:27
uh
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guys even even with your indepth analysis I just don't it's free uh so
41:32
you could try it on the Xbox if you want [Music]
41:37
to yeah I'm not I feel like an old man CU I just don't get it yeah remember
41:43
when like we were the video game generation yeah and then my parents were
41:48
like I don't get it we are actually older than the average video gamer now I
41:53
know [ __ ] up yeah hey speaking of video games I've been to give you guys a
41:58
really indepth review of my experience of the sinking City please please oh yes
42:04
I want to know if I should get this game you guys ready you guys ready for the
42:07
yes it's not very good oh damn it all
42:12
right yeah I had a feeling guys it says it's open world what that means is that
42:18
the map is really big you can't talk to any of the NPCs
42:24
you can't go into any of the buildings except for the ones you meant to go into
42:27
it's just it's awful and it's boring
42:32
right damn it if you want a good lovecraftian game Call of cthulu is also
42:37
not a good game but it's way more fun than this it is way more fun the like as
42:43
in the the old old col well that one too
42:47
right the one on the Xbox yeah yeah the one on the Xbox the original
42:54
Xbox no no no there there's an Xbox One as from [ __ ]
43:00
me and I'm not talking about Shadow of the the old dos game but that's also
43:05
better than this that yeah that's a great game yeah I forgot somehow I
43:10
forgot that this col cthulu game exists look it's not a very good game Matt but
43:16
uh it's better than the sinking City so yeah Kulu dark corners of the earth is
43:20
the one I'm think I was thinking of it came out in 2005 for the
43:23
original oh yeah that wasn't great either no but this is also not
43:30
great so the yeah the Legacy continues yeah yeah that's right I just don't
43:36
think they can yeah I think they struggle to make a good good game like
43:40
this you should play uh Amnesia you know what it's funny that
43:45
you say that Matt because after getting
43:48
bored of this I went back to steam and I had already owned both Amnesia and
43:54
Amnesia Machine For Pigs and I red them so that I could play them again yeah
44:00
Amnesia was good actually the were parts of that that I genuinely gave me the
44:05
creeps and had look over my shoulder so
44:09
yeah well the Xbox One Call of cthulu is similar but it's not actually creepy
44:15
because it's not actually very good but but a milon times better than the
44:21
sinking City I've still been playing uh Watch
44:26
Dogs 2 which again this I'm playing two games right both Ubisoft games and they
44:32
both were just kind of like on a whim I was like I wonder if I'll like that and
44:36
I [ __ ] really really love both of them it's Watch Dogs cuz I saw you
44:39
playing Far Cry Far Cry 5 yeah it's [ __ ] great man really yeah it's
44:45
really good I'm [ __ ] I've got I got addicted within minutes I was addicted
44:51
to it okay wow I I the I I bought it
44:56
excl exclusively to play Far Cry New Dawn to try that out
45:02
because because okay so the soundtrack for Far Cry New Dawn is by Tyler Bates
45:08
who is uh he does all the music for Marilyn Manson these days he did the
45:12
score for John Wick and gu of the Galaxy and stuff like that I really like him as
45:16
a composer and then on uh Spotify it was like oh hey you probably like this game
45:22
soundtrack he did and I do like it so I was like I want to see the game that
45:26
this music is in so I bought I I went to check out Far Cry New Dawn and then
45:32
there was I got it cheap for some reason it was on sale with Far Cry 5 and then I
45:36
learned that Far Cry 5 is kind of like the it's set in Montana and New Dawn is
45:43
like a sequel to it in the far future set in the same map and I was like oh
45:47
that's interesting maybe I'll just check out Far Cry 5 first uh because that'll
45:53
be fun and then I can I'll just check it out a little bit and then I'll jump into
45:57
New Dawn later but then I got [ __ ] addicted to five really and I haven't even played
46:02
New Dawn yet you know it's funny I I've played a couple of far cries but I've
46:07
only played the spin-offs I've only played red dragon and Primal and I loved
46:13
both of them so I recommend finishing five before you play New Dawn yeah I
46:18
know I intend to now five is so the the premise is
46:23
there's an area of Montana that has been taken over Slowly by this religious cult
46:29
yes and they uh the the the leader I
46:33
forget the the name of the leader uh because I've been chasing his brother
46:37
John but um he uh he takes he slow they
46:42
slowly take over this area and then they kind of initiate this plan to to to I
46:48
guess take over the world you you you come in you're a FBI agent I think uh or
46:54
no you're a US Marshal to arrest him and uh and then things go wrong and then his
47:00
followers basically just take over the whole region and then it's like it's Far
47:05
Cry so you're just going rogue [ __ ] Rambo style taking out all these cult
47:11
cultists religious Fanatics in Montana and and it is an open world South yes
47:18
this one is open world you can Mont West yeah they these guys look like
47:24
Hicks so I just assumed yeah but yeah you can go anywhere you
47:29
want do you don't have to even follow like take out one person before you move
47:34
on to next you can go and take out whoever you want first and [ __ ] do
47:37
whatever you want could I play this game without having played the first four Far
47:43
Cry it's got nothing to do with them all the far cries are just their own all I
47:47
think from three onwards are their own game in their own right they don't sort
47:51
of follow on okay because I uh really need a new game because sinking City I I
47:57
thought was going to take me till the end of the year and uh I've given up no
48:02
honestly it it's really good I think you should check it
48:07
out if you can get a good price on it like I did like I got both of them
48:13
for like 20 bucks or something I'm not sure oh wow yeah they were just they
48:17
were on sale for some reason that's a crazy price yeah that's why I was just
48:22
going to get New Dawn and then I was like might as well just buy this pack yeah
48:27
but uh yeah sucked me in and
48:33
off I like it when and that's what you want from a game
48:38
yeah hopefully eventually I'll get to the new dawn because now I'm interested I want
48:43
to play through five to so that I understand the story just to see how
48:47
it CU I'm assuming I'm hoping that it at least comes up in New
48:54
Dawn yeah that's why I yeah you should finish five before you move on okay good
48:58
that's what I was hoping y I'm looking at 70 bucks does that sound if that was
49:04
for both of them for both of them yes if that was for one no oh the bundle here
49:11
is $116.90 wow wait for a sale yeah wait
49:16
for a sale okay I mean they are it is good though oh it's worth it but whether
49:21
or not you'd actually play it yeah H okay
49:28
do they have I don't know if they have demos of it because you haven't have you
49:31
played a Far Cry game before I've I've just play Primal Primal
49:36
and blood dragon and blood dragon yeah well okay so you know you kind of know
49:41
what you're in for I'd say Primal I didn't play Primal but I know cuz blood
49:46
dragon I feel like Primal really Primal is a good game blood dragon is [ __ ]
49:51
awesome yeah but it's not really indicative of Far Cry the main thing
49:57
although well I think I think primal's probably the same in that it's set like 10,000
50:03
BC yeah yeah I've just noticed now I'm on the Microsoft site right now just
50:08
seeing what I could get for yeah but that I've just realized there's a
50:12
there's an add-on for Far Cry Primal where you play as the
50:20
mammoth that's [ __ ] awesome I'll consider
50:25
it I I liked uh yeah five there all these Doomsday Preppers in the area
50:31
which uh is great and you can find all their stashes and stuff like that just I
50:35
don't know the game really got me like the premise of it more than I was
50:40
expecting like all of the the you know you'll talk to uh people wandering
50:45
around rescue them from the from the the bad guys and then they'll say oh yeah
50:50
Bob was hoing a bunch of stuff cuz he he always thought the end of the world was
50:54
coming and then on your map you'll get a little thing that's like pre stash and
50:57
then you got to go find all these Doomsday Preppers [ __ ] gear that
51:02
they've hidden and stuff it's good usually there's a like a puzzle
51:05
associated with it yeah they never make it too easy to get it no we got any uh
51:11
we don't really have any Star Wars news this week uh I mean we could just not
51:16
have Star Wars news and give Craig a week
51:19
off or I think so or or we could talk about we could just make up some Star
51:25
Wars news well I mean I had a Star Wars experience this week uh when Mark HL
51:31
posted on Twitter as we all know Mark Hill is the one and only person I follow
51:35
on Twitter um posted a screen test that
51:41
he did for the original Star Wars with Harrison Ford now it doesn't say it here
51:45
but I have a feeling that this would have been before Harrison was cast when
51:50
harison brought on to read against the actors cuz he was friends with George
51:55
Lucas yeah he he was there building the set he no he was putting doors on the
52:00
office from what I from what I read in the or heard in the audio book that I've
52:04
been listening to this week apparently he uh cuz he actually was a carpenter
52:09
and then he he was on um he did American Graffiti and then a very small role in
52:15
American Graffiti right and so but then they needed some [ __ ] new doors put
52:19
on the the Lucas film officers and they're like oh let's get Harrison in he
52:25
installing some [ __ ] do and then they're like hey do you want to
52:28
uh do you want to help us out and read for read this
52:34
character and then and it wasn't reading for the part it was just so he Mark had
52:39
something to read because apparently George Lucas was very adamant that no
52:43
nobody that I've worked with before no like will be in this like this is going to be new
52:49
people so wasn't he wrong the [ __ ] magic of Hollywood isn't it you can you
52:54
can be in a George Lucas movie and then the next time you're building his [ __ ] office
52:59
door it worked out well for him in this
53:02
one instance but still but uh I I think everyone should watch this it's Charming
53:09
little uh little scene you can tell how different that you know this is
53:13
obviously early dialogue as well yeah did you know uh as well Carri Carrie
53:19
Fisher carry Fisher was the only actress who could act actually say the dialogue
53:26
because it was so tongue twisty and bizarre that and she had just taken
53:31
elocution lessons right and that's why she has like a funny kind of British
53:35
accent a little bit at times in in a new hope that she loses in Parts because she
53:42
was just trying to sound proper well she was just trying to read the [ __ ]
53:45
words that George Lucas had put down and and like apparently no one else could
53:50
read it because they would they're like what the [ __ ] how do you how do you say
53:55
this sentence out loud yeah but uh yeah yeah I love this uh I
54:00
love the quote that Mark has put on this little clip my screen test for Star Wars
54:05
with Harrison on the first day I ever met him neither one of us had read the
54:08
script and only we only got this first scene I asked George what kind of movie
54:13
it was and he said let's just do it and we'll talk about it later we never did
54:17
talk about it we just did it I also learned from the book this
54:22
week that uh we I mean we we know this
54:26
that George always changed stuff right
54:31
and do you know listening to this this is that how Star Wars conquered the
54:35
universe book I think I've said before that I sort of feel sorry for George
54:39
Lucas cuz Star Wars was never really what he wanted anyway even though it was
54:43
so successful and yeah it's true yeah it's an interesting he was [ __ ]
54:47
miserable and depressed the whole time he compromised the whole time and the
54:51
film that that got made was not the film that he wanted to make and as it was in
54:57
theaters he was literally working like
55:01
18 hours a day changing it and and he there's a he called Mark Hill and was
55:07
like um oh you're famous yet cuz like the movie had gone [ __ ] insane
55:12
everyone was going crazy over it he's like do you want to come in and
55:14
re-record some lines my C was like no like just constantly changing it and
55:21
changing it like and then you know they put a new chapter four on CU he wanted
55:25
to do chapter 4 well they had discussed it the whole time but then they
55:29
eventually fox or whoever said to him can you imagine going in to see a film
55:34
and you think it's a new film and then it comes up it says episode 4 like
55:38
that's going to be so confusing and at the time I was like
55:42
well I was like oh yeah but you know it wasn't confusing but back then it would
55:45
have been confusing it was confusing to me as a child I did wonder what that was
55:51
I asked for a very long time I asked my parents I want to see the first St yeah
55:56
and it turns out you didn't no well they had to talk him out of it cuz he was
56:01
like but this is part of where his big push came for digital as well so he
56:06
could like continue making changes to a mov to just before it was released
56:10
didn't have to worry about it being printed to film well that's he was never
56:15
never I don't feel sorry for the billionaire no it's not no but I know
56:21
what you're saying like he's fine but that would be I don't know I can can see why he's so
56:27
cynical because yeah but then he got to do exactly what he wanted with the first
56:32
three yeah that's true and that worked out pretty well for
56:37
him no but I guess you're right I mean we we
56:42
always we kind of give him a bit of [ __ ] for going back and changing things but
56:47
you're quite right I mean maybe this the changes came straight away and this was
56:53
just always somebody who was never happy with the film
56:56
cuz he always said he hated the like one of the things that everyone loved the
56:59
can Cantina scene he hated
57:03
yeah re at least once yeah cuz it didn't
57:08
live up to what he actually envisioned yeah well his idea apparently at the
57:13
time was that he would make this film and then he would uh other people would
57:18
make more Star Wars films and then hopefully other people would make copies
57:23
of Star Wars and then he could just sit back and [ __ ]
57:27
watch all the movies at that from then on like people would make the movies
57:30
that he wanted to see after that that is not what happened
57:35
no so yes I don't feel sorry for him for being a a multi [ __ ] billionaire but
57:40
I do feel like I don't know that's just
57:42
a bit sad really like yeah he got famous
57:48
but he never I don't know it's not it wasn't his vision as such it was this
57:52
compromised thing that people fell in love with and he he went to the [ __ ]
57:56
Hawaii didn't want to know about it you know when it came out that's right and
58:00
that's why we got the holiday special yes yeah he doesn't think about us at
58:06
all oh I think sometimes he might think about you he probably think about me and
58:11
Matt yeah he thinks back oh I remember that that that young man I met on the
58:15
set of Revenge of the Seth wonder what he's up to now oh yeah
58:20
wonder if he andal ever got married yeah sexually harassing one of the one of the
58:25
Stars what if Nelly Portman ever thinks about you yeah while she's while she's in bed
58:31
with her husband yeah she's like she's like you know obviously I'm a beautiful
58:36
woman and very successful I get asked out by a lot of men but only one of them
58:41
really creeped me out yeah she's like honey honey do you think
58:46
you could grow a beard oh you didn't have a beard then did you I didn't have
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a beard back then he's like honey could you put on a hat and like dangle stuff
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off it and she's like do you mind if I call
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you Luke when we're uh you know and he's like oh a Star Wars she's like she's
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