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- 0:06hello everyone and welcome to movie goodness where we examine life through cinema here on the kb radio network i am your host kevin reed and happy indigenous
- 0:20people day or native american day we don't we don't do the columbus day
- 0:28fiasco around here around these here parts here at the kb radio network we celebrate national indigenous people day because that's the people who needs to be honored those are the true honorees
- 0:44of this day because it still boggles my mind and it kind of infuriates me to think that i used to sit in the classroom like millions of others who sat there
- 0:59read in a book taught by a teacher that christopher columbus quote-unquote discovered america and we went with it i mean what other option we had around that time you know we were taught this that uh uh he came over he discovered it by accident because he was supposed to be going to the west indies or wherever he was supposed to be going and got lost like a buffoon ended
- 1:27up here and
- 1:29discovered this country that was already inhabited by people how you discover something that was already inhabited that's like me coming to your house and saying oh i think i'm gonna claim this house you have all your furniture your stuff up in there you're sitting on the couch watching tv but
- 1:53i'm like oh this is this is my house now i've discovered it
- 1:59you would kick me out if not shoot me and so it makes no sense to me why this was taught to me and millions of other children and probably still is being taught to millions of children around the world that this is what actually took place when it is a bald-faced lie and it's even worse now that the truth is more prevalent that is more out there that is more accessible uh when you
- 2:28just google it you know and it's like wait wait wait that's not how this played out it's the same thing as thanksgiving we we we used to celebrate that holiday like oh man yeah uh uh the pilgrims and and the uh native americans because we didn't call them that back then when i was in school uh but they got together and just had a feast to to enjoy
- 2:54each other's company and we know
- 2:57that that was a bald face lie and it's it's so upsetting bro to know that this is the stuff we were taught and there are still grown full adults who walk around right now as we speak and still believe this crap even though the truth is out there the truth is accessible all you have to do is just look it up no you rather accept the lie you rather you rather
- 3:26pay for the lie than get the truth for free and it's it's so upsetting but here you're going to get the truth for free uh it is national indigenous people day and we're celebrating this day the only way we can here on movie goodness and that is reviewing a movie and
- 3:45the movie we're going to review is an absolute banger of a film that came out 20 years ago this year it's the
- 3:5320th anniversary of a
- 3:55film that kind of went under the radar the year it came out 20 years ago due to the filmmakers involvement due to the director of that film getting into some shall i say shenanigans it's
- 4:14some very controversial uh uh comments that were made by him and racist and misogynistic comments.
- 4:24that were made by him and pretty much ruined his career and it's upsetting because he is such a talented filmmaker uh i'm a big fan of his work you know maybe not him as a person but i do enjoy the films that he gave us up to that point and
- 4:44that is none other than mel gibson who directed probably the best film to come out of 2006 apocalypto
- 4:54But due to him making that movie,
- 4:58it was...
- 4:59pushed to the side you know it wasn't up for any awards or anything like that but it was such a well-made film and such a good film a classic film i watch it every i don't know besides the me watching it last week to in preparation
- 5:17to this show i've watched it at least once a year for the last 20 years and it still holds on it still holds up and
- 5:28i love that movie i love it and we're gonna go over it but first let's go over this holiday let's give a brief history of this holiday and then we're going to get into the review uh indigenous people day it kind of kicked off in 1977 when the international world conference on discrimination against indigenous populations in the americas which was sponsored by the un
- 5:56began to discuss replacing Columbus Day in the Americas with a celebration to be known as Indigenous People Day.
- 6:04Similarly,
- 6:06Native American groups staged a sort of a boycott in Boston instead of Thanksgiving,
- 6:14which we talked about a little while ago,
- 6:16which has been celebrated there as a mark of collaboration between Massachusetts colonists and
- 6:25Native Americans.
- 6:26which we know is not how it actually went down.
- 6:31But in July of 1990,
- 6:33at the first Continental Conference on 500 Years of Indian
- 6:38Resistance in
- 6:40Ecuador, representatives of indigenous peoples throughout the Americas agreed that they would mark 1992,
- 6:50the 500-year anniversary of the first voyage of Christopher Columbus.
- 6:55as a year to promote continental unity and liberation at least 14 states in the united states do not celebrate columbus day alaska hawaii iowa louisiana which is a shock to me but hey i'm proud
- 7:15of my of my native state for at least standing up and doing that right uh maine michigan
- 7:24minnesota uh new mexico oregon south dakota vermont washington and wisconsin those states do not celebrate columbus day as well as washington dc south dakota officially celebrates
- 7:42native american day instead various tribal governments in oklahoma designate the day as Native American date or
- 7:53have renamed the day after their own tribes in 2013 the california state legislator considered a bill ab55 to formally replace columbus day with native american day but it didn't pass while
- 8:13the california governor has recognized indigenous people day the holiday was eliminated by it.
- 8:22gonna blow your mind arnold schwarzenegger when he was the governor of california and uh i think it was from
- 8:312008 to 2012 thanks arnold that he dropped the ball on that one but on august 30th 2017 following similar affiliated votes in ohio followed later by maine
- 8:50In the earlier weeks of that same month,
- 8:52the Los Angeles
- 8:54City Council voted in favor of replacing Columbus Day with Indigenous People Day.
- 9:00In October of 2019,
- 9:04just a few days before Columbus Day would be celebrated in Washington,
- 9:08D.C.,
- 9:09the
- 9:10District of Columbia Council voted to temporarily replace
- 9:14Columbus Day with Indigenous People Day.
- 9:18although this isn't a federal holiday under u.s law the biden administration has formally recognized indigenous people day the first white house proclamation on the holiday was released in 2021 written with
- 9:34input from indigenous activists and so this is the formation of the holiday uh finally coming into play indigenous people day which is
- 9:47quite frankly long overdue which is to be honest with you a holiday that we all wish was unnecessary we all wish that we didn't have to have an indigenous people day because
- 10:01their every day should have been their day here because this is their country at the end of the day they are the native americans this is their country which uh i know blows a lot of maggots minds because oh this is our country now no it ain't no no it is not this
- 10:20is not your country and your hatred towards immigrants is is hypocritical because you're you're an immigrant everyone is an immigrant it.
- 10:30if you're not a native american point blank period so uh yeah uh happy indigenous people day to all of the native americans all the tribes that stretch from here and there across this country and i
- 10:47wish that the indigenous people here got more respect than what they they get now you know it's not it's rare that you see someone indigenous
- 10:59at least where i'm at you know we don't see too many and it's crazy because my great-grandmother was native american believe it or not but she was and i never met the woman you know she passed away long before i was born but it's
- 11:16it's crazy to think that uh my entire bloodline is ostracized here in this country no matter no matter how you how you slice it
- 11:29uh my bloodline is not welcome here so it is it's it's weird man it's hard to grow up in a country or show respect for a country that does not like you and does not want you here but that's neither here nor there that's a whole nother show uh
- 11:48that i could dive into but once again happy indigenous people day happy native american day however you want to slice it but not
- 11:57columbus day you you can kick rocks with that with that crap and so let's get into our review let's jump into the film that i wanted to review today this is one of my favorite movies of the early
- 12:152000s um i'm i'm hesitant to say ever i don't want to say ever give me a few more years on that.
- 12:24Let's see how I feel.
- 12:2610 more years uh once the film turns 30 maybe then i'll i'll make that claim if i still feel the same way but this is truly an amazing movie by a man that is not so amazing personally mel
- 12:44gibson directed and produced the
- 12:482006 epic historical action adventure film apocalypse
- 12:55though this film uh it is set in uh i think 1502 was the year this was set in in gralla mala and it tells the the hero's journey of a young man named jaguar paul and
- 13:13he's a hunter and his fellow tribesmen who were trapped or captured by this invading force after a raid on their village they are brought
- 13:25to uh on this perilous journey to uh this this i think a mayan city for human sacrifice at the time when the mayan civilization was at decline and it was this
- 13:41was a film that similar to similar to passion of the christ no words of english was spoken in this movie uh
- 13:53another movie by mel gibson he i don't know how he does it i don't know how he makes these movies and and have them come out relatable no matter what the language barrier is you can still follow the story still engage
- 14:09in the story still uh cheer for the characters or hate this character or really know the motivations of everybody you know that's that's what made mel gibson special around time.
- 14:22as far as his directing he he knew how to connect his characters or the characters he were uh directing uh because he co-wrote this film as well and even though there's no lines of dialogue still find a way to connect them to the audience with
- 14:42their emotions through their acting through their actions and bro it's brilliant not not too many directors can do it
- 14:50That's why it's so heartbreaking that he fell from grace like he did.
- 14:56You know what I'm saying?
- 14:57It really stinks that he turned out to be such of a douche.
- 15:03so i i really wish i really wish in a perfect world that the man wasn't such a moron in real life to whereas we would have got more films like this because
- 15:17we haven't seen a movie like this since from anybody because i don't think anybody can make a movie like this mind you this film is pretty straightforward.
- 15:28You know,
- 15:29it's not a complex story.
- 15:31uh we're in this small village small of of a small group of hunters families they get taken over by this larger group of people more powerful group of people uh they go on this journey you
- 15:48know we follow them through this this journey through the wilderness through the woods i should say uh or jungles and going through all of these obstacles and uh Oh.
- 16:00Avoiding being murdered by this Mayan culture that was just butchers.
- 16:07And finally get to these temples and there's human sacrifices.
- 16:12And one man whose motivations are not just to survive but to get back to his family.
- 16:20And that's his whole goal.
- 16:22It's no other goal other than getting back to his family.
- 16:27And that's his motivation.
- 16:29And.
- 16:30He escapes,
- 16:31and now the journey is to go right back through what we just went through before,
- 16:36that was set up before,
- 16:38when they were traveling to,
- 16:41you know,
- 16:41this location.
- 16:42And no words,
- 16:45I mean,
- 16:45there were words of dialogue,
- 16:47but nothing to push the story forward.
- 16:50The dialogue didn't push the story forward.
- 16:52The action pushed the story forward.
- 16:55And the tension of Jaguar Paul.
- 16:59making it back will he make it back and cutting back and forth between his journey and his wife and his child who and his wife who is pregnant as well in this hole you know because they were hiding from this mayan butcher squad and it's rain it
- 17:18has rained after and the hole is starting to fill up with water and so now will they survive in the hole will he get back in time
- 17:26If he's able to even get back,
- 17:28it's just all that's going on.
- 17:31And the movie is just moving,
- 17:33is moving at a at a at a rapid pace.
- 17:36But it takes time,
- 17:37just little little moments to get those little subtle beats in,
- 17:42you know,
- 17:43the moments of of emotion,
- 17:47moments of reflection,
- 17:48moments of getting a character's motivations,
- 17:53even with our villains.
- 17:55and our antagonists in this film,
- 17:57when they are hunting
- 18:00Jaguar Paul,
- 18:01you start to understand their motivations.
- 18:05You don't like it.
- 18:06At least I hope you don't.
- 18:09You don't like it.
- 18:11And they're evil.
- 18:13You know,
- 18:13they're not redeemable.
- 18:15But at the same time,
- 18:16they are humanized.
- 18:18You know,
- 18:19they aren't just cardboard cutouts of villains.
- 18:22They are humanized.
- 18:24And
- 18:25this is this is the way it was and in some places probably still is you know but this this story did so much with so little time i mean well i say little time is a little over two hours i think it's like two hours and 10 minutes maybe two hours and 20 minutes maybe but
- 18:48it doesn't feel that way this it feels like it's an hour and a half they feel like it's 90 minutes long
- 18:54that's how fast the movie is moving uh but it's so much and there's so many characters and you get every little character even the supporting characters uh the characters that don't make it but the most intriguing one is our main antagonist and his son who's a hothead you know well he has two sons one is trying to you
- 19:19know get his father's approval but he gets it with ease you though,
- 19:22because he's the younger.
- 19:23I believe the youngest one out of them.
- 19:26And he's trying his hardest to impress his dad and whatnot.
- 19:30And he's doing a good job and his dad is cheering him on.
- 19:33But there's the hothead son who is just,
- 19:37he's just,
- 19:38he's just a wild animal,
- 19:39you know,
- 19:40can't be tamed.
- 19:41He wants his father approval the same way,
- 19:44but he goes about it a different way and his father ain't digging it.
- 19:49You know,
- 19:50he's not feeling them.
- 19:51And it's,
- 19:52it's,
- 19:53Becomes this father-son story,
- 19:55you know,
- 19:55and you're like,
- 19:56okay
- 19:57i didn't see this coming you know what i didn't i didn't know we were going to have family drama here but we get the family drama of it all and it still works and you still hate them you still despise these characters but it was interesting to see their
- 20:16story told and is told still in line with our main story our main character
- 20:24our hero our protagonist who is trying to get back to his family and it all connects in some shape form or fashion well i mean well constructed film that i i am just super
- 20:40impressed by is this the type of movie they just don't make anymore and it's infuriating because man if you just take the time and focus on character
- 20:54focus on your characters and then put the action around them it works you have a home run film if you do it in that fashion instead of having the action and then throwing in characters here and there just to have characters you know you
- 21:14know just to push the story along rather than vice versa and that's where a lot of films today mess up but this was so you
- 21:24So amazing.
- 21:25And then the big twist at the end,
- 21:28which wasn't really a twist,
- 21:31which brought me to why I wanted to review it for this particular day.
- 21:36At the end of the film,
- 21:37Jaguar Paul finally gets back in spoilers for a 20 year old movie,
- 21:41by the way,
- 21:42he gets back.
- 21:44But before he can really rescue his family,
- 21:49he's standing on the beach and he looks off at sea.
- 21:53And he sees the ships.
- 21:55He sees the colonizers arriving,
- 21:58which is a deeper threat than the Mayans.
- 22:02Because as he's standing there,
- 22:05so are the Mayans.
- 22:06And they're all looking,
- 22:07knowing that they're in trouble.
- 22:10That this threat that is arriving is more dangerous,
- 22:14more deadly than what they have experienced so far.
- 22:21And that's...
- 22:22scarier than anything anything that we've seen in this film and that's how the movie goes off brilliant it was such a brilliant movie i mean i really have no problems with this film through
- 22:40time you know when you read up on it you hear about the historical inaccuracies you know but like for instance uh some scholars feel that the
- 22:50depiction of the mass human sacrifices and the widespread slavery was more typical to Aztec rather than Mayan the so that that was kind of misconstrued uh uh matter of fact there's uh I think a a
- 23:08visor a Mayan advisor who said that human sacrifice was not rare and based on carvings and paintings that there were more and greater similarities
- 23:20between the
- 23:21Aztecs and the Mayans.
- 23:22So there's a lot of conflicting reports.
- 23:25We don't know.
- 23:26We weren't there.
- 23:27You know,
- 23:28that was over 500 years ago.
- 23:30So we don't know the real nitty gritty,
- 23:33but we do know that human sacrifices and whatnot did take place.
- 23:37Now,
- 23:38that was accurate.
- 23:39Aside from that controversy,
- 23:42some scholars also said that the film's highlighting of human sacrifices Because,
- 23:49uh...
- 23:50that occurred during the later years of the spanish uh conquest so it wasn't so much in what was it uh 1503 or whatever it was it was later on down the line but it happened you know probably didn't get the dates right all right whatever you know christmas isn't the correct date you know jesus's birth was not on december 25th but
- 24:14we rock with it and we're not gonna get dates right to times that we really
- 24:19don't have actual proof of what days it was uh but uh there was a lot of things that that they claimed that were a little off as far as the timing of it all but it was still a wonderful movie it was a wonderful movie it did get nominated for a couple of uh academy awards that year best makeup best sound editing and best sound mixing but
- 24:46they lost
- 24:48On all of them.
- 24:49I think the only awards that it won were,
- 24:54like,
- 24:54from film festivals.
- 24:55It didn't win any big.
- 24:58awards uh i think at the golden globes it was nominated for best foreign language film but it lost you know and i think a lot of that was because of mel gibson uh he did not do his film any favors because it deserved so much more recognition and credit that it actually got now it wasn't a box office bomb it did make his money back it made
- 25:25It made pretty good money on a $40 million budget.
- 25:28It grossed $120 million worldwide.
- 25:31So it did flip a profit.
- 25:34But I think the movie should have been more recognized than what we received in
- 25:432006. But nonetheless,
- 25:47it may not have got its flowers then.
- 25:50I'm going to give it its flowers now.
- 25:52Mel Gibson's Apocalypto.
- 25:55gets a letter grade of an A.
- 25:58It was and still is one of the best films in the last 20 years.
- 26:05It was phenomenal.
- 26:07It still is phenomenal.
- 26:09If you haven't checked out Apocalypto,
- 26:12please check it out.
- 26:13Please seek it out.
- 26:16Find it.
- 26:17Watch it in its totality.
- 26:19It is amazing.
- 26:21It is brutal.
- 26:22I'm going to tell you this now.
- 26:24it is brutal if you watch passion of the christ and you know that mel gibson does not hold back when it comes to brutality that that's not his thing he's gonna show you everything in his full glory and he does it in apocalypto and
- 26:41so just be warned there is there is some brutality in here but you had i feel like this and and for art's sake
- 26:53Sometimes you have to go full bore with it.
- 26:57You got to go all in with certain aspects of storytelling in order for the audience to really feel it.
- 27:05Going back to the passion of the Christ,
- 27:07and this has nothing to do with your spiritual or religious affiliations or lack thereof.
- 27:14Let's just talk about the movie there is.
- 27:17The movie itself,
- 27:18in order to feel the impact of what Jesus Christ was going through,
- 27:22through or went through you had to feel every lick that he went through and that's what he showed in order to feel the impact of him being nailed to the cross they had to show the nails going through the hands going through the feet and all this here in order for you to feel the impact of what he went through yeah was it hard yes it was that was hard to watch do
- 27:46you know because i'm a i'm a spiritual person i'm a man of faith so it hit me in the gonads
- 27:51it really tore me up to watch that you know i remember going to the theater to see that me and my wife and we were sitting in there watching it and it had got to the scene when he was being beaten you know the night before he was crucified and they had to stop the film in the theater they had to stop it because literally
- 28:1399 of the people in that theater and i was in that 99 were crying there i mean we were bawling
- 28:21in that movie because we felt it we were feeling that the impact of that film they had to stop it it literally gave an impromptu intermission and then they restarted it after everybody got their composure back you know it the theater did that i don't know they were doing that randomly or or they knew that people were going to react in that way once they got to that point in the movie but they saw that
- 28:51and they stopped the film and in this film in apocalypto uh to to really experience how brutal these sacrifice and these uh uh the slaughtering of these people were he showed it all and you
- 29:07really get the point across you know that man this was some brutal stuff that they were going to this is what they're running from this is why they're trying to get away and it worked
- 29:20it worked it really did it worked to the point where you know i feel a certain way i feel differently about the indigenous people in that time than i did before you know i felt it was already i already felt it was a messed up situation but i felt it even more after watching this movie and so uh yeah
- 29:43man apocalypto an excellent excellent excellent film uh so that was
- 29:50In honor,
- 29:51in respect to Indigenous People Day,
- 29:55I hope...
- 29:57i hope this comes an official uh federal holiday i don't know if it's an official i know that uh government buildings uh post offices are closed uh this day but i mean official in the sense that we dropped the columbus day crap you know because you hear your president talk about he's going to celebrate columbus day he's not even of course this is no shock to
- 30:25anybody that he is not
- 30:27recognizing indigenous people he demands a buffoon and a moron it can't stand him but anyways uh i hope that we get to the point where we're able to remove the name of christopher
- 30:43columbus from the history books because he he does not deserve to be honored in no shape form or fashion and so i would like to know did you
- 30:55ever check out apocalypto uh what did you think of it do you think it's a classic it's a classic in my eyes and my god man i hope that uh if you haven't checked it out that you do check it out and speaking of checking out stuff check out the kbradiodetwork.com website where you can be notified of new episodes
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- 31:44we commemorate indigenous people day want you all to know that i love you continue to love everyone and
- 31:51Until we speak again,
- 31:53you all be blessed.