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74. The Gap Between the Podcast You Have and the Podcast Your Business Needs · Podcast Growth, Podcast SEO, and Podcast Launch Strategies for Mom Entrepreneurs | Podcasting for Moms

• 0:45
  SPEAKER_00: Let me paint you a picture.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_00: She's been podcasting for over a year.
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  SPEAKER_00: She's consistent.
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  SPEAKER_00: She shows up every single week.
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  SPEAKER_00: Her audio quality is great.
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  SPEAKER_00: She's got a decent number of downloads.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not necessarily viral, but solid.
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  SPEAKER_00: And she has an offer.
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  SPEAKER_00: A really good one actually.
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  SPEAKER_00: But when I ask her how many clients have you gotten from your podcast, she gets quiet.
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  SPEAKER_00: None that I know of, she says.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe a few, but I'm not really sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: That right there, that is the gap.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not a gap in effort or consistency or content quality.
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  SPEAKER_00: The gap between the podcast that she has and the podcast that her business actually needs.
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  SPEAKER_00: And here's what I want you to understand before we go any further.
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  SPEAKER_00: That gap is not your fault, because I feel like no one teaches this part.
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  SPEAKER_00: Everyone teaches you how to launch a podcast, but almost no one teaches you how to build podcasts that works for your business.
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  SPEAKER_00: And those are two completely different things.
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  SPEAKER_00: So today that's exactly what we're getting into.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's go.
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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Podcasting for Moms, the show for moms and business ready to start, grow, and scale a podcast that turns your listeners into buyers.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm Jenny Summeson, a podcast strategist and fellow mom entrepreneur.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're in the right place if you want to learn how to start and grow a podcast that attracts your ideal clients and really does the heavy lifting for you when it comes to selling your offers.
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  SPEAKER_00: All while balancing life as a busy mom.
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  SPEAKER_00: Are you ready to create a podcast that grows your income, impact, and influence?
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's make podcasting work for you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because as moms, we know how to get things done.
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  SPEAKER_00: Alright, let's jump into the episode.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, hey, and welcome to Podcasting for Moms, the show for mom entrepreneurs who want to use podcasting as their primary marketing channel to turn listeners into buyers and ditch the social media hamster wheel for good.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_00: I'm your host, Jenny Sunnison, a podcast strategist and producer, and I'm so glad that you're here.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so today's episode, this one's for you.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you've been podcasting for a while and something just feels off.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like you're doing the thing, you're showing up, but the business results aren't exactly matching the effort that you're putting in.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is exactly the gap that we're talking about today.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's get into it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So here is the honest truth.
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  SPEAKER_00: Most podcasters build a show around content, and then they wonder why it's not generating revenue.
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  SPEAKER_00: They pick topics that they're excited about.
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  SPEAKER_00: They batch record, they hit publish, they share on Instagram, and then they wait for sales to come.
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  SPEAKER_00: But a podcast that converts listeners to buyers isn't built around content.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's built around a journey.
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  SPEAKER_00: And there's a big difference.
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  SPEAKER_00: A content-focused podcast asks, what do I want to talk about?
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  SPEAKER_00: Whereas a business focused podcast asks, what does my listener need to hear to feel ready to work with me?
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_00: See the difference?
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  SPEAKER_00: One is about filling airtime, whereas the other is about building trust, solving a real problem, and creating a natural next step.
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  SPEAKER_00: That natural next step, that is where most podcasters have nothing.
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  SPEAKER_00: No bridge, no path, no here's what to do next.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's why the downloads don't turn into dollars.
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  SPEAKER_00: So today I'm gonna be giving you the three things your podcast actually needs to close that gap, which is what I call the listener-to-buyer bridge.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yes, we're gonna be talking about how this connects to the listen method that I teach, but I want to give you something really concrete and actionable that you can take away from this episode today.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the first thing is that every single episode needs a job.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not just a topic, but a job.
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  SPEAKER_00: So here's what I mean by that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Five ways to grow your podcast audience.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is a topic, but what is the job of that episode?
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  SPEAKER_00: Is it warming up a cold listener to the idea that podcasting is a real marketing tool?
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  SPEAKER_00: Is it validating someone who already has a podcast and is starting to wonder if it's worth it?
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  SPEAKER_00: Is it leading them to a specific offer or resource that you have?
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  SPEAKER_00: If you don't know the job of the episode, your listener doesn't either.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they'll finish listening, feel vaguely inspired, and then move on with their day.
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  SPEAKER_00: But when every episode has a strategic purpose, when it's designed to move your listener one step closer to trusting you, seeing themselves in your work, and wanting to take the next step with you, that's when your podcast starts to do business work.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I want you to think about your last five episodes.
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  SPEAKER_00: For each one, can you finish this sentence?
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  SPEAKER_00: With after listening to this episode, I want my listener to feel blank.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the next step I want them to take is blank.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you can't answer that, or the answer is I don't know, then that's a sign that your episodes are doing content work, but not business work.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, the second thing, your calls to action have to create a clear path, not just point to an offer.
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  SPEAKER_00: So let's talk about calls to action because this is where I see so much wasted potential.
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  SPEAKER_00: A lot of podcasters either have no call to action, like they just end the episode and they hope for the best, or they have a call to action that's completely disconnected from the episode they just recorded.
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  SPEAKER_00: So say you do an episode about imposter syndrome as a mom entrepreneur, and then at the end you're saying, if you want to launch a podcast, check out my podcast launch bootcamp.
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  SPEAKER_00: Listeners sitting there thinking, okay, what does that have to do with what we just talked about?
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  SPEAKER_00: The CTA that you are doing in each episode has to flow from the content.
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  SPEAKER_00: It should feel like the natural next step because it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if you're teaching something or episode, your call to action should be the resource, offer, or action that helps your listener go deeper on exactly that thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the other piece of this is the call to action has to be clear and specific.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not go check out my website or follow me on Instagram.
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  SPEAKER_00: It needs to be one clear action, one specific place, and one reason why it's the next step for them right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: When your CTAs are connected to the content and strategically placed, not just tagged on at the end, that is when your podcast becomes a real lead generation tool.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's when someone listens to three episodes in a row, and then by the fourth one, they are already clicking your link ready to buy.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then the third one, your episode topics have to map to your offer, not just your niche.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this one is a big one, so stay with me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Most podcasters pick topics based on what's relevant to their niche, which makes sense on the surface, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like I have a podcast about podcasting, so I should talk about podcasting stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: But relevant to your niche is not the same thing as move someone towards your offer.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have a client who is in the process of launching right now, and from day one, she built her episode plan around her offer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Every topic that we've mapped out connects directly back to what she does, the problem she solves, and the transformation her clients experience.
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  SPEAKER_00: Her podcast isn't just content about her niche, it is a mapped journey.
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  SPEAKER_00: And here's what that means in practice.
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  SPEAKER_00: A new listener can come in, binge a handful of episodes, and by the end, they have a clear picture of the problem that they have, why it matters, what the solution looks like, and who can help them get there.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's a podcast that sells, not because it's pitchy or because every episode is a sales presentation, but because the content itself is doing the selling by being strategically designed.
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  SPEAKER_00: So here's the question that I want you to sit with.
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  SPEAKER_00: If someone listened to your last 10 episodes and knew nothing about you, could they clearly see the through line from your content to your offer?
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  SPEAKER_00: Would they understand what you help people do?
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  SPEAKER_00: And would they know what their next step is?
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  SPEAKER_00: If the answer to any of these is no, then that is the gap that we're talking about.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, real quick, a few things I need you to stop doing if you want to close this gap.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the first thing is stop recording episodes just because you had a good idea.
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  SPEAKER_00: Good ideas are not enough.
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  SPEAKER_00: Every episode needs to earn its spot in your feed by having a clear purpose in your listener's journey.
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  SPEAKER_00: If it doesn't move someone closer to knowing, trusting, or buying from you, it's just filler, not strategy.
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  SPEAKER_00: The second thing I want you to stop doing is to stop using the same CTA for every episode.
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  SPEAKER_00: Check out my insert offer here at the end of every episode is not a strategy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Your call to action should be customized to the content.
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  SPEAKER_00: It should feel like a natural extension of what your listener just heard.
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  SPEAKER_00: Can calls to action feel like ads, whereas connected calls to action feel like help.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then lastly, I want you to stop thinking more downloads will fix a strategy problem.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this one is big.
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  SPEAKER_00: I hear it all the time.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just need more listeners.
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  SPEAKER_00: But if the listeners you already have aren't converting, more listeners will just give you more of the same result.
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  SPEAKER_00: The work is in the strategy, not the numbers.
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  SPEAKER_00: Fix the bridge first and then grow the audience.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so let me bring this all together.
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  SPEAKER_00: The gap between the podcast that you have and the podcast that your business needs usually comes down to three things.
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  SPEAKER_00: One, your episodes don't have a clear strategic purpose beyond the topic.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're content, not a journey.
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  SPEAKER_00: Two, your CTAs aren't connected to your content or creating a clear path to your offer.
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  SPEAKER_00: And three, your episode topics aren't mapped to your offer in a way that creates a natural through line from new listener to ready buyer.
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  SPEAKER_00: The listener to buyer bridge isn't about being salesy.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's about being intentional and building a podcast that actually serves your business, not just your editorial calendar.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now here's the thing: everything I just walked you through, that is the kind of thing that is hard to audit on your own.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because when you're inside your own podcast, it's almost impossible to see what's missing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's exactly why I offer podcast audits.
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  SPEAKER_00: So in a podcast audit, I go into your show and I look at exactly the and I look at it exactly this: whether your episodes have a strategic purpose, whether your calls to action are actually doing anything, and whether your content is building the kind of listener journey that converts.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I give you a clear, specific, actionable roadmap so that you know exactly what to fix and in what order.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you've been podcasting for a while and you're starting to wonder why it isn't converting the way that you hoped, then this is your next step.
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  SPEAKER_00: Head to podcastingformoms.co slash audit to grab yours today.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'll also make sure the link is in the show notes as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right, that is a wrap on today's episode.
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  SPEAKER_00: If this one hit home for you, please share it with a mom podcaster in your life who you feel needs to hear it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'll see you in the next episode.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for tuning in to Podcasting for Moms.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_00: I hope today's episode gave you the tools and inspiration you need to make your podcast work smarter, not harder.
• 10:11
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• 10:14
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• 10:18
  SPEAKER_00: For more tips, resources, and support, head to podcastingformoms.co.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_00: Remember, you're not just building a podcast, you're building your legacy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Until next time, friends.