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Secret Service Veteran Exposes Echo Chambers, Tariffs and Iran Strategy (Ross Yerger) · World Ablaze with George Fontes

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  welcome to another world ablaze got another guest today i have mr ross yurger better known as
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  yurgs he served in the secret service he runs uh internet radio station as well as two podcasts
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  And so without further ado, let's bring on Jurgs.
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  Hello, Jurgs.
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  How are you doing, sir?
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  Not bad.
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  Thanks for having me.
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  How's everything?
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  well as we kind of talked offline hectic here as it is i'm sure for you as anybody in this podcast
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  space trying to keep up with what's going on around the world because the news moves way too
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  damn fast so it's hard to stay ahead of things um i feel that yeah i know you do i know you do
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  so you know we didn't have anything um per se fleshed out in terms of what we're absolutely
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  definitively going to talk about so i know it's gonna be a lot more conversational your show is
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  very similar to mine. As you said earlier, it's balanced. As in, you don't basically stick...
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  Well, you may be more left or right. Let's just not talk about partisan politics per se,
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  but I think that you do call out the BS on the right as well as the left. And I wouldn't say
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  you're center, but as you said, balanced. Is that a good description? Yeah. And you know what?
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  But it's fine.
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  There's plenty of things that I'm conservative about, and it's fine to talk about that.
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  In fact, that's kind of the problem.
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  We're not talking about that anymore.
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  Like you and I were talking about offline, Sean Hannity and the Dan Bongino, they're
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  all talking to the conservatives.
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  Rachel Maddow, Tom Hartman, they're all talking to the liberals and progressives.
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  Nobody's talking to the other side.
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  It's easy to get your own audience rallied when you all agree with each other.
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  But what people have forgotten is that it's okay to disagree.
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  And that's actually healthy.
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  The problem or the real task for all of us in any level of journalism is to bring those two sides back to the same table without the Facebook name calling and all the things that we see in the other social media platforms.
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  that aren't doing anyone any good.
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  When you say something of a smart-ass type nature on Facebook,
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  do you really feel that good about yourself?
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  That used to be me.
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  And I come up the same day.
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  I don't have any more followers.
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  I didn't get anybody back on my side.
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  So what good did that really do?
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  But I've done it with neighbors in my own neighborhood.
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  and when you get the two sides, you put rules down
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  and when you get them at the same table
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  and start by finding areas where you actually agree,
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  you'll find that that list is probably bigger
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  than the one that isn't.
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  I can agree with that.
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  Now, so let's address the other thing you brought up
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  that has been the bane of everything going on,
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  I think right now is how social media is being used right now.
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  Because I don't think...
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  So you have just addressed something important.
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  People speaking to a captured audience,
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  basically screaming into a cave
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  and just listening to their own echoes.
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  It's an echo chamber is what they've created.
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  But I think they're afraid to break out of that
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  because they're chasing the likes and clicks,
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  which also equals dollars for them in sponsorships.
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  Very few truth tellers.
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  Not unlike when you mentioned Dan Bongino,
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  know that's what he claimed to be in the beginning right but he is hardcore purely right i mean that
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  he's just of the right and and he does it to his credit he doesn't deny that yeah no he doesn't
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  but he thinks that the right only is the only way to go true and that's that's my problem with
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  extremists is that they're less likely to have that seat at the table and talk to the extremists
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  from the other side, where if the conservatives are at least a little bit left-leaning and the
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  conservatives are at least a little bit right-leaning to a point where they at least will hear the
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  other side, you're going to get a lot further. Agreed. And so let's address some of that though.
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  So what is it that's on your mind right now? I've heard the last few episodes of your show,
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  But as of right now, as we stand in America, what's on your mind that you believe needs to be addressed by both sides and not necessarily partisan?
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  Because again, I think what you're saying earlier really lends to the fact that no one really seems to be talking about real issues that affect people in their everyday lives.
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  They're talking about issues that are not unimportant, but to the average person esoteric to the degree that the average person doesn't have any idea what's really going on in the Middle East.
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  They don't really understand how to approach that situation.
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  They just know their gas is more expensive.
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  Just kind of like keeping it simple.
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  They don't know anything about what's going on with tariffs.
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  They just know that their groceries cost more or their electronics cost more.
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  They don't understand the intricacies of why these things are being done.
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  And, you know, we can claim Trump is crazy.
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  We can definitely talk about how he's using tariffs.
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  And we know that it's almost weaponized, but also maybe retaliatory, you know, depending on how you look at the history of the tariffs between countries.
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  But regardless, what in your mind is going on that needs to be really discussed in a more meaningful way, like actual discourse?
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  but you actually ended on it i think the biggest thing that's on my mind that i'm not talking about
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  on my show either show is the fact that my political show needs to come back to five days a
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  week yeah because there's just too much going on for it to be a once a week show yes by the time
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  it gets to me on sunday evening monday tuesday wednesday and thursday are old news there's no
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  He was talking about it.
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  And that's, I think, part of, it's real easy for us to say it's part of this administration's shock and awe, as they called it, their words.
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  That they wanted to have so much going on that the media and society in general couldn't really follow them.
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  I don't think that's a new concept.
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  Having studied presidential history as my history degree and then constitutional law as my political science degree, good presidents have really busy schedules every day from the day they came down that escalator to say that they were running for president to the day they stand there and watch somebody else put their hand on a Bible.
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  There is no such thing, and I'm saying this for both sides, Republicans and Democrats, there is no such thing as a day off.
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  I was with George W. Bush when he was fishing, and Condoleezza Rice walked up to him, tapped him on the shoulder, and he dropped his rod right by the lake and walked off and had a meeting with her.
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  That's not a day off just because he's fishing.
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  And so the thing on my mind behind this curtain is getting my show back to at least three days a week where I can better address and fulfill that goal that I've got of bringing both sides to the table and having the discussions necessary with certain rules in place and so on.
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  So that we're not the name calling in anything that's not productive.
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  But yeah, you said it also.
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  I was at the grocery store and I was at one of those self-checkout lanes because they're usually faster.
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  And there was an elderly couple aside of me.
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  The woman was in one of those motorized golf carts.
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  He had grocery carts with the basket on it.
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  Her husband was standing aside of them.
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  And they're racking up the groceries.
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  and he with disgust when he's finished says 125 dollars for what and i'm not kidding you with a
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  tear in her eye his wife answered for nothing that's what we've got to talk more about yeah
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  that's coincidentally you just talked about that yesterday with another guest it's like
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  in my lifetime, you know, even when I was younger, I remember I can fill two grocery
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  carts, large ones for about 200. And now you're getting two small bags, like two small bags.
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  And you didn't, you bought like, what do we got now? You get like a few veggies, some bananas,
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  you know, maybe some chicken. I don't know. Whatever you eat. It doesn't matter. You're
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  not getting much out of it. You're walking away feeling like you're ripped off. It's like,
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  what are we working so hard for?
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  Like,
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  where's my dollar going?
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  And for what?
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  So,
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  I think part of that is,
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  you know,
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  definitely a mismanagement
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  of how things have been handled.
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  And we could say,
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  when it comes to tariffs,
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  we can say when it comes to imports,
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  but also how we've treated
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  our own farmers,
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  the ag business in general,
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  internally,
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  within the U.S.
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  For a long time.
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  Democracy and whatnot.
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  It's crazy.
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  For a long time.
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  This isn't a new thing either.
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  No, it's not.
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  I mean, hell, the avocado industry was founded here in California, of all places.
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  It wasn't Mexico, by the way.
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  Right.
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  And allowing Mexican avocados is what drove the avocado farmers away to reduce everything that they did in California because they just couldn't compete with the low prices.
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  That right there is detrimental to American farmers.
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  So when you're doing things like that and also goes towards what just recently happened.
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  And I know you probably have something to say about it with the temporary restrictions or lifting of the tariffs on ground beef.
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  All of a sudden, we're going to bring ground beef in from Brazil to lower the cost of ground beef, which, okay, but it's not doing anything to help the American cattle industry or the beef industry whatsoever for whatever time period that is.
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  But the whole unrealistic concept about that is the fact that Donald Trump says he's going to bring beef in from outside to bring the cost down.
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  Right.
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  From where?
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  Where are you getting these cows that have already been either butchered and sent to market somewhere else or already marketed to other countries?
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  You're not going to grow a full steer by next week.
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  and he thinks this is just going to happen tomorrow.
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  It doesn't work like that.
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  No, it doesn't.
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  No.
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  Hopefully somebody in that White House knows it.
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  True.
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  True.
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  But I'm not sure what's going on with all of that,
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  but I also don't know because I didn't look into it.
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  I don't know what the Brazilian beef industry looks like
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  or the Argentinian beef industry.
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  I don't know how much they're producing and what's going where.
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  but what is interesting another guest of mine just said is that you know the chinese just
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  rejected a bunch of beef um i believe it was from peru for having a certain antibiotic in it that
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  actually causes issues to humans and the chinese rejected that and the fear is like well are we
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  going to start seeing that stuff show up on the on the shelves you know is that a possibility who
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  knows but basically as you said we can be we can be getting off topic slightly but the reality is you right Where the beef coming from Why is it good now and wasn before and two like how is this helping the american you know meat industry
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  like how's that really helping those people out whose costs have been rising you know for years i
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  mean the cattle industry right now they can't even keep up the the heads of cattle are at a record
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  low you know and that's due to droughts cost of operations etc and then that's everywhere
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  convenient screw worm outbreak.
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  So we can't even use Mexican cattle.
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  Right.
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  Coincidence?
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  I don't know.
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  We can get conspiratorial, I guess.
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  But at the same time,
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  it's like all these things seem to line up
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  and to what purpose, right?
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  But again, we can talk about
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  the food going up that everyone suffers for.
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  And we ask why.
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  Because America in and of itself
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  has the ability to really produce food
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  for the entire world,
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  especially California.
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  And it doesn't make sense
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  that if we can grow and produce in our own backyard,
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  why are we paying more?
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  Why are we bringing it in from other places?
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  There's some things that we don't grow.
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  I get it.
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  Certain tropical fruits, coffee, et cetera,
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  but not everything.
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  I don't see the reasoning behind it
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  and why we have to suffer for it.
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  Why do we have to put so many restrictions,
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  regulations that drive up the costs for the farmers
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  so that those costs are absorbed by you and I?
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  It doesn't make any sense.
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  Well, not only is that not making sense,
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  But you have things like that on the right where we want to try to better supply and support agriculture.
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  And then on the left, they want a higher minimum wage.
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  Where do you think that money's coming from?
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  It's not going to be from Santa Claus.
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  Sorry to bring you that bad news.
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  Right.
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  And it's not going to be from the owner of the company who's going to dig into his own pockets or her own pockets.
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  No, they're not going to give away.
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  It's going to come from somewhere.
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  And this is just the vicious cycle, which is what really needs to be addressed.
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  If we raise minimum wage, and I'm all for those people making better money,
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  well, we've got to figure out another way on how to do it.
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  And maybe that's that we're not spending $125 for nothing at the grocery store.
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  Yeah.
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  That's the vicious cycle that needs to be stopped.
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  Agreed. And you're right. But there's the thing about minimum wage that most economists, I'm surprised, don't even talk about because it's true. If you raise the floor, for example, you also got to raise the ceiling.
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  There's nowhere in history where raising the minimum wage does not exponentially also raise the cost of living.
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  It's a temporary fix in the beginning.
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  And it looks good and feels good for a while, but then the market will always adjust.
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  It's just the nature of the capitalist system.
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  It's market-driven.
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  And you're right.
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  Companies aren't going to absorb that cost.
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  For example, in California, when they raised the minimum wage for fast food workers to $20, I think it was $22, I think somewhere around there, but it was over $20.
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  So how is McDonald's going to absorb that?
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  Only two ways they can do it.
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  They can do the Walmart method and just go by volume,
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  or they're going to have to raise the cost of your burger, period.
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  And a lot of people didn't even realize that.
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  Yeah, and it is both.
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  So it sounds good, but in the end, that's the reason your Starbucks coffee,
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  when you walk out the door and have to get it how you want,
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  is almost $10 for what?
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  Yeah.
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  A glass of milk with some bad espresso?
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  And hey, whatever.
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  It depends what you like, but still, does that make any sense?
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  Or I can go to an AM PM and get a coffee for less than three bucks or whatever, which used to be less than two.
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  So we're feeling it all the way around.
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  And that's kind of some of the other issues.
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  I just quit a job where I was a Verizon specialist at the Best Buy stores in our area.
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  Okay.
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  I don't really feel that I was real heavily trained to have that position.
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  to have the knowledge base that customers expect me to have
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  when I'm not wearing a blue Best Buy shirt.
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  I'm wearing a black Verizon shirt.
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  Right.
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  And it was a really, for a store like that,
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  it was a really solid lesson.
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  That's not just a summer job.
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  All those departments there,
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  what they need to know to be able to excel in that position,
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  that's a career.
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  Right.
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  And that's either a career you either want to be in.
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  I wanted to be in technology, and I wanted to be in something that was going to make me some decent money while I was there.
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  But I couldn't go over to the appliance department and really sell anybody a refrigerator.
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  That was not my wheelhouse, definitely.
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  And I think that's what a lot of these lower-paying jobs are expected to do.
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  And Starbucks is one of them.
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  They're not a union position.
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  so there's nobody defending these people so they're put behind the counter and told how to
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  make a coffee or how to make a macchiato or one of these other drinks that i can't even spell
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  do they really know how to do that and when you go to like your sponsor and and some of the the
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  stores that are more like that the more boutique type of coffee shops that's their job that's what
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  they do and they're passionate about the coffee and unfortunately that's the only thing that they've
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  got going for them when starbucks is saying that this bitter tasting stuff is what coffee is supposed
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  to taste like everybody believes it and they put 20 pounds of sugar in it like i used to have to do
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  until i started going to dunkin donuts uh and so it's just it's the guy serving coffee
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  They're not really baristas because they don't have the knowledge.
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  And until we focus on getting them that knowledge, $20 an hour isn't going to mean anything.
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  Because eventually, somebody's going to leave that $20 an hour spot and go to the family-owned $15 an hour or $12 an hour or whatever that owner can pocket at the end of the day to get a good cup of coffee.
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  Right. All right. So let's go ahead and dive more into things a bit. Okay. I'm going to throw it out there. You and I are not going to have a partisan argument or debate. I'm not a debate guy. I don't believe in the modern debate. Yes. It doesn't get you anywhere. No one learns anything. It's just a shouting match.
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  yeah but let's talk let's talk about this i want to get your ideas what's on your head
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  um okay in terms of overall because the problem with cost of living it's not just the minimum wage
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  right it's not it's not just that it's everything else around it it was the housing prices during
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  the pandemic that suddenly skyrocketed 200 or more and never really necessarily came back down
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  which is crazy um houses that used to go for 150 000 are now going for 400 plus which is which is
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  insane. So we have real estate, we have the Fed that won't lower the rates low enough for it to
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  make sense. You can't buy a house that costs a lot plus have a high interest rate. Back in the day,
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  people always say, oh, the boomers, your dad, your mom, grandmother bought a house for only
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  X amount of dollars. Yeah, but the rates were also, they bought it for $150,000 or less,
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  but the rates were also- They put it on a credit card.
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  Yeah, exactly. But the rates were also higher. But then again, that's just an example. You can't
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  to both. One has to offset the other. Right now, we're in a situation where everything's high.
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  Rates are high. You can't borrow. You also can't spend on what they want for things.
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  And so what I'm seeing right now is a lot of youth feel disenfranchised because they're doing
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  everything that they said they're supposed to do. They're going to school, whatever,
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  getting the degrees, getting a skill that they believe is going to give them the life they want,
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  and then walking out into this world where, oh shit, I can't get a job because now everyone has
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  a degree for whatever I want to go for.
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  Now you're not really getting a leg up on anybody anymore.
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  So now they're all competing for the same jobs, trying to live in an expensive, I mean
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  crazy, the cost of living right now in America is nuts.
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  And most places, people want to live in metropolitan areas.
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  Let's say you're looking at New York, LA, Frisco, wherever it is, it doesn't matter.
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  But anywhere of that magnitude, good luck.
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  You're going to be spending what?
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  Anywhere from $3,000 to $6,000 a month for a studio, which doesn't make sense.
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  Easy.
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  Right?
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  So what are we going to do?
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  Okay, Democrat, Republican, whatever.
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  Any policies in your mind that need to be adjusted?
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  Anything that needs to be addressed?
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  How would you go forward in trying to address the cost of living?
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  What do you think the first step is?
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  Ending the war in Iran and ultimately bringing down the price of gas.
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  or really the price of oil,
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  which has its hands in so many of the things
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  that are costing more right now.
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  Whether it's an oil byproduct that makes the product itself
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  or the packaging of the product,
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  like the beef, the styrofoam,
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  the plastic wrap of the hamburger,
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  or just getting it from point A to point B.
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  When I was assigned to Bill Clinton, he did a speaking engagement and said, the average meal travels a thousand miles to the dinner plate.
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  That's way too far.
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  And you said yourself with the agriculture that we've got here in our nation, we need to be more self-sufficient.
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  Not that we can't get other things from around the world and be cultured, but we've got the beef industry here and we've got the vegetation part of agriculture here.
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  We shouldn't be getting that from somewhere else.
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  And it just starts with some of the more basic things like the price of oil and with that, the price of gas, the price of jet fuel.
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  How many of these people are traveling to do business?
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  Or how many of these things are being shipped by FedEx or UPS or some airline?
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  They're having to buy, any airline is buying their jet fuel four to five years in advance
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  before they even use it in effort to try to keep costs down.
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  And what we're paying now is gas for five years from now.
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  Because they've already got this flight field up.
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  It's the next one that they're trying to pay for.
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  That's not sustainable.
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  Because that distance, that five-year figure has only gotten bigger.
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  It wasn't always five years.
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  And if they're having to go that far out and stockpile that much fuel, where are they going to put it all?
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  And people don't understand how all this, this is the part of trickle-down economics that actually works.
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  Is when they see the prices go up, the other prices go up.
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  When costs go up, the asking price goes up.
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  And so we got to get ahead of that.
• 24:30
  And bringing some of that home, that whole America first, sounded like a good idea.
• 24:37
  We just got to get around to implementing it at some point.
• 24:40
  and I'm not saying leave Ukraine,
• 24:43
  sit there by themselves,
• 24:44
  but whatever happened to Venezuela?
• 24:49
  Did we ever get that oil?
• 24:51
  Certainly doesn't look like it.
• 24:53
  I have no idea what's going on,
• 24:54
  you know,
• 24:55
  and the point about oil,
• 24:58
  I'm not going to dispute
• 24:59
  because cost of oil affects everything,
• 25:01
  period.
• 25:02
  Yeah.
• 25:03
  But it doesn't explain the years
• 25:04
  of rising costs
• 25:06
  before we got to this situation, right?
• 25:08
  I don't believe it.
• 25:09
  Read.
• 25:10
  Greed.
• 25:11
  Definitely.
• 25:12
  And when you brought up Venezuela,
• 25:14
  the reason that...
• 25:15
  I'm glad you brought that up
• 25:16
  because Venezuela...
• 25:18
  Supposedly, we have this agreement.
• 25:20
  Okay?
• 25:20
  And we used to have an agreement with them
• 25:21
  going back 100 years.
• 25:23
  Chevron actually used to refine their oil.
• 25:26
  They actually were there,
• 25:27
  had a partnership with Venezuela years ago.
• 25:29
  I think it was about 100 years ago.
• 25:30
  That's how long they have been there in the past.
• 25:33
  And when Venezuela nationalized oil,
• 25:35
  they kicked Chevron and all these companies out
• 25:37
  and just said,
• 25:38
  you know what?
• 25:38
  We don't need the U.S.
• 25:40
  And they have a right to do that as a country.
• 25:42
  Unfortunately, they fell under socialism and whatever else and at the hands of a dictator
• 25:47
  or authoritarian.
• 25:48
  So that didn't work out for the people.
• 25:50
  But the idea was right and that we could have had a trade agreement with Venezuela, for example.
• 25:54
  But then we have our own oil stores that for some reason we don ever seem to use I don know if we just trying to wait everyone else out but it not going to happen Actually we been using it and it actually at the lowest point it ever been
• 26:09
  We have something like two months left
• 26:11
  if we were to continue using it again.
• 26:15
  That's how low it is.
• 26:17
  I'm going to have to look into that
• 26:18
  because I know that we have a lot of natural oil
• 26:20
  produced out of Alaska, Texas.
• 26:22
  We can do offshore drilling that we halted,
• 26:25
  that they're barely starting to ramp up again.
• 26:27
  So we have the oil.
• 26:29
  You're right, we may not have the oil stored,
• 26:32
  the refined oil.
• 26:33
  I think that is the actual issue,
• 26:35
  and I think you're correct there.
• 26:37
  And so we did give our oil industry away to a degree
• 26:40
  by stopping offshore drilling,
• 26:43
  by trying to import more from overseas.
• 26:45
  We kind of did it to ourselves.
• 26:47
  We shot ourselves in the foot.
• 26:48
  But what is going on in Iran
• 26:50
  absolutely is affecting the entire world.
• 26:52
  And I'm going to agree with you on this.
• 26:54
  Oh, yeah.
• 26:55
  I'm not going to get into it with you because I do have how I feel about the
• 26:58
  Islamic regime over there and everything else.
• 27:00
  That's just,
• 27:00
  that's just me and I'm not going to be swayed by it.
• 27:02
  That's okay.
• 27:03
  No,
• 27:03
  I think they,
• 27:04
  they should have been dealt with about nearly 50 years ago,
• 27:06
  but at the same time,
• 27:07
  it's time to either look,
• 27:11
  Trump's either going to go all in and take care of business or he just has to
• 27:13
  pull out and just realize there's no longer a benefit here.
• 27:17
  Like whatever you're planning,
• 27:18
  it didn't really quite work out.
• 27:21
  It's time to,
• 27:22
  it's time to end it.
• 27:23
  You know,
• 27:23
  cut your losses, come back, regroup, renegotiate, figure another plan out.
• 27:28
  And if that's policy, great, stick to it.
• 27:30
  But this whole thing that's going on now is not working out for the world and not working
• 27:34
  out for us at all.
• 27:36
  Unless they're going to go in with a kinetic war, which they're really not.
• 27:40
  I think the US is just posturing and he's trying to rely on the way we look as a military
• 27:45
  and our strength and et cetera, but Iran's not buying it.
• 27:48
  And unless Trump's willing to actually go in and actually fight, nothing's ever going
• 27:52
  to get done.
• 27:53
  And if we do that, it's going to get even worse anyway.
• 27:56
  We're going to be there for 20, 30 years.
• 27:58
  So at this point, I'm going to agree with you, man.
• 28:01
  I think Trump needs to get out of Iran when he has stopped the madness with the oil.
• 28:06
  And the rest of the world, I mean, let's not blame it all on Trump, though.
• 28:09
  I'm not defending Trump.
• 28:09
  I'm not a Trump guy, per se.
• 28:11
  So I just want you to understand this.
• 28:12
  We also can't ignore the fact that the UK is one of Oman's oldest European allies who have never stepped up to defend Oman and what's going on in those territorial waters either.
• 28:22
  we also can't dispute the fact that you know there has been pipelines that have been um
• 28:28
  proposed in the past but were ignored because the cost was too much there was even a canal that was
• 28:32
  discussed the bypass the street but the world was fine and no one cared until shit happens like this
• 28:38
  all of a sudden everybody does this finger pointing well you could have prepared for it a long time
• 28:42
  ago but nobody chose to and now that this is happening it's america's fault okay i think
• 28:50
  everyone has a hand in it but you know trump did definitely kick this damn thing off for sure
• 28:54
  well i think it's america's fault i think people are saying it's america's fault because
• 29:00
  we're the one that poked the bear or the morning next i agree there was a certain level of um
• 29:07
  equilibrium equilibrium or stability before we went into venezuela and before we went into iran
• 29:14
  and before we started committing what I believe is piracy with blowing up these so-called
• 29:20
  narco-terrorist boats that they've had no actual proof.
• 29:25
  That's what it is.
• 29:27
  And now we've got the rest of the world ticked off at us because we're being more of a bully
• 29:34
  than we are the world's police department that we used to be.
• 29:39
  And we're picking fights that clearly we can't win.
• 29:44
  Because how many do we have a counter for the number of times that we obliterated Iran?
• 29:52
  Look in the dictionary.
• 29:53
  You only need one.
• 29:55
  Yeah.
• 29:56
  And there's nothing to obliterate anymore.
• 29:58
  You did it.
• 29:59
  Yet we obliterated their defenses again.
• 30:03
  Yeah.
• 30:03
  Well, we must have been right for going after them because they certainly do build it back real quick.
• 30:09
  yeah they well
• 30:11
  here's
• 30:12
  what I know not saying I know everything
• 30:15
  but
• 30:16
  they do have a massive stockpile that
• 30:19
  nobody actually knew
• 30:21
  the real amount of what they had I mean
• 30:23
  for years is what they did and they
• 30:25
  also are getting help from Russia and China
• 30:27
  a lot of people aren't even talking about what they're
• 30:29
  actually getting from them it's not just technology
• 30:31
  they are getting supplies they made a deal
• 30:33
  with China not that long ago
• 30:35
  for supplies
• 30:36
  and so that is happening
• 30:40
  what we see now though
• 30:43
  and again I kind of stopped looking at the Middle East
• 30:46
  for a little bit because I had to focus on domestic
• 30:48
  so I might be off on some of this
• 30:49
  it's been a while
• 30:50
  but what I do know is
• 30:53
  Iran is in an economic situation right now
• 30:56
  and I don't know if Trump
• 30:57
  is trying to just
• 31:00
  hold out and see if this
• 31:02
  kind of forces the
• 31:04
  Iranian regime
• 31:05
  like forces their hand.
• 31:08
  But I don't know.
• 31:09
  I don't know if this is going to be the right approach either.
• 31:11
  Because we can, again, this could be a game,
• 31:13
  even if we're looking at the economic chokehold
• 31:15
  he's trying to put on them,
• 31:16
  this could also be something we're going to go through
• 31:18
  another 30 to 50 years.
• 31:20
  Yeah.
• 31:20
  Like, because China may keep going in there and saying,
• 31:23
  hey, here's, let me prop you up.
• 31:25
  Russia might go.
• 31:26
  Because what are their allies that China and Russia
• 31:30
  have in the Middle East at this point
• 31:32
  that are as important as Iran right now?
• 31:35
  Not really anybody else.
• 31:37
  No, and that's the thing is that we either, it's a war of attrition on both ends.
• 31:45
  Yes, it is.
• 31:46
  It's the economic status that you mentioned, which China is not all that better either.
• 31:51
  But if they partner, they can outlive, outlast the other side.
• 31:59
  And that is the clock that's ticking between now and November 3rd.
• 32:05
  if this is still going on in November 3rd,
• 32:10
  he's done.
• 32:12
  He will be the longest lame duck president in history.
• 32:16
  Yeah, he may very well be.
• 32:18
  And I'm not saying that's good.
• 32:19
  I'm not saying that's bad.
• 32:21
  No, no, no.
• 32:21
  He's got to be able to see that.
• 32:24
  I think that's why he's trying to escalate things how he is.
• 32:27
  But I'm not sure who's advising him on this.
• 32:31
  But at this point, I think you're right.
• 32:32
  If midterms are a concern,
• 32:35
  and if he wants to keep control of the House and the Senate,
• 32:41
  he's going to have to figure this out.
• 32:43
  He's going to have to either pull out, come up with another solution,
• 32:45
  or he's going to have to go all in, which we don't want.
• 32:49
  I don't think any American wants to see other Americans go in and die
• 32:53
  because we're still not sure of the cause.
• 32:55
  The average person is not sure of the cause.
• 32:57
  And at this point, I don't even know if I am
• 32:59
  because we're told one thing and then there's the other.
• 33:01
  I have my reservations and I do understand the reason
• 33:05
  we need to deal with Iran, but right now the way it's going, it's not the right way because even
• 33:09
  our allies aren't even backing us. They're just like, they're kind of hands-off. France is always-
• 33:15
  I think one of- Go ahead.
• 33:16
  Sorry if I cut you off, but I think one of the reasons the allies aren't backing us because
• 33:20
  they know what I saw a while ago and can't find anymore. We were talking about potential
• 33:29
  conspiracy theories.
• 33:31
  Look at our country.
• 33:33
  Probably the biggest conspiracy
• 33:35
  theory
• 33:36
  that we've ever had as a nation
• 33:39
  turned out to be true.
• 33:43
  Which one?
• 33:44
  The Kennedy assassination.
• 33:46
  I didn't
• 33:47
  look too much into it.
• 33:49
  I'm going to be honest.
• 33:50
  I never had the time.
• 33:51
  So what was the actual truth revealed?
• 33:53
  There's now
• 33:54
  millions of theories
• 33:57
  some people still think that Lee Harvey Oswald pulled the trigger.
• 34:03
  Okay, take whatever information you got and make that decision.
• 34:08
  Personally, I don't think he touched a gun that day.
• 34:14
  And I think I know he has been lifelong in our nation's intelligence community.
• 34:23
  He was an orphan.
• 34:27
  He was picked up into the military by someone that is now proven to have been connected to the CIA for that exact purpose.
• 34:37
  Talk about human trafficking.
• 34:39
  Right.
• 34:39
  Then he gets into the military and he's stationed in Japan at the base for the U-2 spy plane.
• 34:48
  He's numerous times sitting in an officer's club
• 34:54
  That an enlisted man, one, can't be in
• 34:57
  And two, doesn't have the money to be in
• 35:02
  There's only other one way he could have been there
• 35:05
  He's in the intelligence community
• 35:08
  Then he says F you to the United States
• 35:13
  In the 50s, mind you
• 35:15
  During McCarthyism
• 35:17
  and hikes it over to Russia.
• 35:22
  Gets his wife, brings her back,
• 35:26
  and is greeted with the open arms
• 35:28
  when he's met in New Jersey?
• 35:33
  That doesn't sound a little crazy.
• 35:37
  Right, so that-
• 35:38
  This is all fact.
• 35:40
  Right, but that translates to
• 35:41
  the rest of the world not trusting the U.S.
• 35:43
  because the U.S. government
• 35:44
  killed their own president.
• 35:47
  I don't know. So that's the who did it. And this is where the people that I think might be a little
• 35:55
  with the whole deep state. This is where they've got some credibility for that argument.
• 36:03
  There's nobody in the CIA that says, yes, you know what? I was the one that ordered Kennedy
• 36:08
  being hit. Right. And there's no one in the mafia that said, yeah, my guys were the ones that did it.
• 36:15
  Well, they're never going to.
• 36:17
  But there's a lot of things that make sense.
• 36:22
  This is actually based on a real person.
• 36:26
  Donald Sutherland's character in the movie JFK, Mr. X, as he called himself, was actually a real person who was supposed to support the Secret Service in Dallas and would have not just in Dallas, but in any other city around the country.
• 36:42
  And he was told to stand down.
• 36:45
  why Dallas?
• 36:48
  Is that supposed to be just a coincidence
• 36:50
  that he took these VIPs to the South Pole
• 36:53
  on the same day that Kennedy was shot?
• 36:58
  There was absolutely a lot of
• 37:01
  very strange and coincidental involvements
• 37:05
  around the Kennedy assassination
• 37:06
  that lend to our government
• 37:10
  or government officials or employees
• 37:12
  that definitely plotted this thing.
• 37:14
  A rogue aspect, yeah.
• 37:17
  Absolutely, yeah.
• 37:17
  So I can't sit here per se and say that our actual government collectively planned this.
• 37:23
  No, right.
• 37:24
  There definitely was a rogue aspect of people that did this.
• 37:28
  And really, just like anything else, it came down to money.
• 37:33
  It really just came down to money more than anything else.
• 37:35
  Some of the power and the infrastructure that he really upset.
• 37:42
  Just to, I brought up the Kennedy assassination because, like I said, that was probably the biggest conspiracy theory.
• 37:50
  You know, that, oh, it was Lee Harvey Oswald and that's it.
• 37:53
  Yeah, well, we know that might not be the case anymore.
• 37:56
  But just to kind of prove the point.
• 37:58
  I stood, if you go to Dealey Plaza today, the whole thing is a memorial, unfortunately.
• 38:06
  But I mean, it should be because we shouldn't forget about it.
• 38:09
  There is an X in the middle of Elm Street that represents the spot where the famous headshot was, where Kennedy was at when the headshot took place.
• 38:22
  I ran out into the street and took two photos.
• 38:25
  One of the grassy knoll, which was just like focused and centered and beautiful.
• 38:31
  The other was the sixth floor bookstore depository building window.
• 38:39
  You can't see the building because of the tree that's in the way.
• 38:45
  And yet he got sniper quality shots off in 3.2 seconds or whatever it was.
• 38:50
  And I bring that up because now we talked about the economy and
• 38:55
  one thing having to do with the next There out of control inflation So people go to grocery stores that help bring down the cost of their groceries
• 39:13
  The dollar store, Dollar Tree.
• 39:17
  What story just came out last week about how food from the Dollar Tree and the dollar store aren't good for you?
• 39:25
  oh yeah so now we can't go there anymore we got to go back to the expensive store
• 39:32
  and we're supposed to believe that this is just coincidence that it all happens in that
• 39:37
  in that order in that uh with those checked boxes right it's i used to believe that that
• 39:45
  was a possibility and then i was standing outside the door on some of those deep state meetings
• 39:52
  it's it's that's exactly what it is i'm not saying the deep state but i'm saying the whole
• 40:01
  reason that story came out was to scare enough people into going back to publics or you know
• 40:08
  some of the higher end grocery stores translation more expensive grocery stores yeah i mean look
• 40:16
  there's obviously
• 40:18
  narratives being controlled
• 40:21
  and people are being conditioned
• 40:24
  and people are being
• 40:26
  programmed.
• 40:29
  It's just the truth.
• 40:30
  The Russians notoriously have
• 40:32
  had a program literally focused
• 40:34
  on just doing that.
• 40:37
  It starts in K-12
• 40:39
  and goes on from there.
• 40:41
  What you're
• 40:42
  talking about though,
• 40:43
  So let's reel this back because this can go many different directions.
• 40:48
  So I want to go back to how this ties into mistrust with our allies.
• 40:53
  So how did that lend to the mistrust with our allies after that scandal or that conspiracy may have been proven to be true to the degree that there was a rogue element of the government that may or may not have actually planned to kill Kennedy?
• 41:10
  Well, the actual distrust that I was referring to in more modern times is the thing that I couldn't find were photos of some of our military bases overseas that were hit by Iran that we didn't hear anything about.
• 41:31
  Right.
• 41:33
  They're gone.
• 41:35
  Talk about actually obliterated.
• 41:39
  They're gone.
• 41:40
  And I suspect we're going to find out that the casualties and fatalities are much higher than what we're currently being told.
• 41:49
  You know, they very well may be.
• 41:52
  But that also lends to, I mean, I'm not sure that's also still just where that ties into distrust of our allies.
• 42:01
  Because if we're going to talk about conspiracies and our government control, we have that in every government.
• 42:07
  Okay.
• 42:07
  But we also absolutely have it in the UK.
• 42:09
  We have it in France.
• 42:11
  We have it in surrounding nations, NATO nations.
• 42:15
  And, you know, not part of the conversation per se in this situation, but Russia, I mean, there's examples of it everywhere.
• 42:21
  So I'm not sure that that is going to be the leading issue or cause of distrust outside of they got pissed that their gas and their resources went up because Trump went into the Strait of Hormuz.
• 42:31
  And I think that's really what the underlying issue is.
• 42:34
  and then when I was bringing up France earlier,
• 42:36
  they do a lot of finger wagging.
• 42:38
  They said they have throughout history
• 42:39
  and they've even stated like,
• 42:42
  oh, we're willing to come in and play police
• 42:43
  after you've done the job though.
• 42:46
  You know, UK is kind of holding back
• 42:48
  a little bit as well.
• 42:49
  And I'm not saying it's for them
• 42:52
  to go in and fight like what we started
• 42:55
  to be quite honest,
• 42:56
  just as we shouldn't be expected
• 42:58
  to do the same for them.
• 42:59
  If they start something,
• 43:00
  should we be there?
• 43:02
  We shouldn't,
• 43:03
  but we often throughout history have been.
• 43:06
  And I think there was an expectation before this situation with Trump in Iran
• 43:10
  that the U.S. would just run to everybody's aid because that's the way it was perceived.
• 43:16
  And now it's seen around the world that, well, maybe we can't rely on the U.S.
• 43:20
  because Trump is kind of like, doesn't seem like he's too into backing his allies
• 43:25
  because he's claiming the whole America first thing,
• 43:27
  which isolationism isn't really America first, to be quite honest.
• 43:32
  That's just cutting you out of the world.
• 43:35
  It's too interconnected to do that these days.
• 43:37
  We don't live in the 1800s.
• 43:39
  It's not going to happen.
• 43:41
  So I think the distrust is just basically based on what happened recently and how Trump has treated everyone that was a member of NATO and like, hey, you got to pay more.
• 43:50
  You got to do this.
• 43:51
  And I think some of it was him calling them on their shit.
• 43:53
  And they realized, oh, wait, he is really serious.
• 43:56
  he's serious but the way he approached it i'm going to agree with probably you and anyone else
• 44:02
  that it was a little too heavy-handed there's a better way to go about this without pissing people
• 44:07
  off well also i think any of the other um conflicts wars of previous years whether it was
• 44:17
  the british going into the grenadine islands or grenada islands um or you know anything
• 44:27
  or us having to go in somewhere there was some better level of legitimacy
• 44:34
  for the reason it was happening in the first place than what we have with iran yeah
• 44:41
  And I think what the actual reason was that he gave in to Netanyahu, who has been wanting to do this forever.
• 44:52
  And everyone else up to up till now, including Trump in Trump 1.0, was able to successfully give Netanyahu the Heisman, the stiff arm and keep him at a distance with the idea.
• 45:06
  Right.
• 45:07
  And now, for whatever reason, Trump gave in.
• 45:09
  i don't and that's that's kind of a backdoor there obviously i don't know that's why we're in iran
• 45:16
  clearly he didn't say that's why yeah i think knowing about the previous histories
• 45:21
  it certainly points to that there's some validity there though to what you said there has been
• 45:26
  reports that you know whatever his decision was was heavily relied on by israeli intelligence
• 45:31
  that that is a fact that's been stated it's not something that is made up a rumor it's true right
• 45:37
  but what also is ignored is Trump himself has talked about taking care of Iran since the 80s,
• 45:44
  well before he was anywhere near to becoming a president.
• 45:47
  Becoming a president.
• 45:48
  Yeah.
• 45:49
  So he's not, I think the problem with Trump and what's going on with Iran is people didn't believe him.
• 45:53
  They weren't paying attention.
• 45:55
  This is his last term.
• 45:56
  I think he is going out there, balls to the wall, trying to say or do whatever he can because he knows he can't do it again.
• 46:04
  Problem is, he's going at 200 miles an hour plus.
• 46:10
  He's using certain policies as weapons against others to get them to bend to his will.
• 46:16
  The way he's going about it is as if someone who is, if I'm being very honest, someone who's on their deathbed and going, oh shit, I got five days left.
• 46:24
  What do I do?
• 46:26
  How do I take care of everything on my bucket list?
• 46:28
  And that's what I see is happening.
• 46:30
  I don't necessarily think what he is doing is necessarily wrong.
• 46:36
  What is wrong is he's trying to do it all at once in a very fast paced way.
• 46:40
  That's not leaving room for any real negotiations or agreements that are amicable to everyone.
• 46:46
  That's the issue that's going on right now.
• 46:49
  That's what's pissing everyone off.
• 46:51
  And that's why many people are hurting economically.
• 46:53
  Now, we could talk about economics that go back way before him because who controlled Congress before for the last 12 to 16 years?
• 47:01
  It wasn't the Republicans.
• 47:03
  And it's not Republican-verse, but during his first term, he pretty much was a lame duck.
• 47:09
  He couldn't get anything done.
• 47:12
  And now he has the opportunity, and he still doesn't even have his own people that back him half the time.
• 47:18
  So it's an interesting situation.
• 47:20
  and I can understand how some people hate Trump
• 47:23
  and I can see the craziness
• 47:25
  in what he's doing.
• 47:26
  But as far as Iran goes,
• 47:28
  I mean, look,
• 47:29
  this can has been kicked down the road
• 47:30
  by every president for years,
• 47:32
  for years.
• 47:34
  And you may know more than I,
• 47:36
  but I think if it wasn't Trump,
• 47:39
  it was going to be somebody.
• 47:39
  I just think that the way he's handling it now,
• 47:42
  if it wasn't Trump,
• 47:42
  it's going to be another president for sure.
• 47:43
  I mean, we were on that collision course,
• 47:45
  but the way he's handling it now is,
• 47:47
  I'm not sure it's the proper approach.
• 47:50
  It's too much.
• 47:51
  It's not diplomatic.
• 47:53
  It's not...
• 47:54
  I don't think he went and planned this out with his allies like Britain, the UK, France,
• 48:00
  everyone said, hey, look, this is what's happening.
• 48:02
  This is how we got to address this.
• 48:03
  He just made the decision without anyone else's involvement and just said, screw it.
• 48:06
  I'm getting it done.
• 48:08
  And leaving everybody out who's supposed to be your ally is not the way to do this because
• 48:11
  it just upsets the rest of the world.
• 48:13
  And then that's what's going to lead to isolationism.
• 48:15
  That's what's pushing people to make deals with China.
• 48:17
  and when you brought up Venezuela,
• 48:20
  it wasn't just about the oil, man.
• 48:21
  That was about China. That was about Iran.
• 48:25
  China's involvement
• 48:26
  in South America,
• 48:28
  for example, South of our
• 48:29
  Southern Hemisphere in general, they've been doing this for years.
• 48:32
  They control,
• 48:33
  they've made deals with Peru,
• 48:35
  they've made deals with Venezuela,
• 48:39
  Panama, you name it.
• 48:40
  The Panama Canal is controlled by two Chinese
• 48:42
  companies on either end.
• 48:43
  They've been making headway to control the Southern Hemisphere.
• 48:46
  That right there is a real reason Trump got involved.
• 48:49
  He's not telling everybody, but he should have.
• 48:51
  It wasn't about oil.
• 48:53
  It wasn't about Maduro.
• 48:55
  It was about China.
• 48:56
  It was about the fact that we had Iranians setting up bases in Venezuela to train their people right in our southern hemisphere.
• 49:06
  It was about Venezuela shipping 200, I think it was 240 metric tons of drugs out of the southern hemisphere.
• 49:13
  Not all of it went to America.
• 49:16
  but a lot of it,
• 49:18
  like I want to say 80% of it,
• 49:20
  or between 60% to 80% of it went to Europe.
• 49:23
  That is true.
• 49:24
  That's documented.
• 49:26
  Same thing with the oil.
• 49:28
  So there was a good reason to act.
• 49:31
  Now,
• 49:32
  can we argue that invading a sovereign territory and just saying I'm
• 49:35
  arresting a sitting ruler?
• 49:39
  Is that the question?
• 49:40
  I'll be honest.
• 49:42
  I was like,
• 49:43
  you know,
• 49:44
  it's kind of a win,
• 49:45
  but what kind of message are you saying to the rest of the world?
• 49:48
  Yeah.
• 49:49
  And that's the thing that's kind of my question.
• 49:55
  He just stopped military exercises that are like 30 years old with South Korea.
• 50:03
  Because he gets along with North Korea?
• 50:07
  Isn't that kind of the problem?
• 50:09
  That you're getting along with North Korea and Russia and China
• 50:13
  and all these other former communist nations that are more dictators than anything,
• 50:20
  but you're calling the Democrats communists?
• 50:24
  What about the F word?
• 50:26
  Fascism.
• 50:27
  I see what you're getting at.
• 50:29
  And it does raise some questions, especially in the Pacific region.
• 50:33
  I mean, it just doesn't make sense with how China's been harassing the Philippines,
• 50:39
  how they've been harassing Taiwan.
• 50:41
  on and even japan now feels like look we got to step up so they're getting back in the game which
• 50:47
  they've been hands off for for so long militarily right um so it does seem like if you're looking at
• 50:55
  that they can't trust the u.s anymore right and we also have north korea with nuclear capabilities
• 51:02
  right now as well right so yeah it is very interesting um it's very interesting so what's
• 51:09
  there isn't going to be a fix.
• 51:11
  So let's just get to it.
• 51:13
  Okay.
• 51:14
  That's actually something I wanted to say about other presidents.
• 51:20
  There's kicking the can down the road.
• 51:22
  Yeah.
• 51:23
  And there's also maintaining stability.
• 51:26
  Yeah, true.
• 51:28
  If we're going to at least maintain stability by kicking the can down the road,
• 51:32
  I'd rather kick the can down the road until there's either a cause for us to act militarily by Iran's actions, or we have a much better plan in place with many more fellow actors in this thing than what we've got now.
• 51:55
  That I agree with, and that's kind of what I was saying earlier.
• 51:57
  I think that would have been the correct approach.
• 51:59
  Get all your allies involved.
• 52:02
  you're not
• 52:02
  Instead of having a war, enforce what you got to do through policy.
• 52:08
  Make deals with your Gulf state allies.
• 52:10
  Go ahead and build the other pipelines.
• 52:12
  There's so many other things they could have done throughout the years.
• 52:15
  And even under Trump, to even get the ball rolling and say, hey, here's a direction we're going to go.
• 52:20
  And these are the deals we're going to make that other presidents would have picked up on because they made sense.
• 52:26
  But that's not what happened.
• 52:28
  So the only thing I can say is we're going to have to ride this out, unfortunately.
• 52:32
  It's what it is.
• 52:32
  Again, I'm going to be very upfront.
• 52:34
  I do like some of Trump's boss and what he does.
• 52:36
  I don't like how he goes about things, though.
• 52:38
  He's a hammer, and you can't be a hammer.
• 52:41
  So what's it going to be in the future, though?
• 52:44
  What's life after Trump?
• 52:46
  And that's kind of been what I've been thinking about a lot.
• 52:48
  Like, what is it going to look like?
• 52:50
  Because if we're talking about parties, I don't know what's going on with the Republicans.
• 52:55
  Okay?
• 52:55
  It looks like we have two parties.
• 52:56
  We have the Republicans or conservatives, and then we have the MAGA guys, right?
• 52:59
  And then if you look at the Democrats, where are the old school Democrats?
• 53:02
  It looks like a lot of people are leaning towards socialism or even siding with the DSA, which is very strange.
• 53:09
  I don't think that's as big as what people think it is and certainly is what the right news outlets will make it out to be.
• 53:18
  I think it's successful.
• 53:20
  And Mondomny is clearly an example of that.
• 53:24
  El-Sayed is another one.
• 53:26
  And down here in Florida, Nixon is a third.
• 53:30
  Does that mean that's going to be the entire Democratic Party?
• 53:34
  I hope not, because I said from the moment back when he ran against Hillary in 07, that calling himself a Democratic Socialist is the worst name you can come up with.
• 53:49
  Because everyone's going to associate you with the USSR, communism, the red states, whatever.
• 53:58
  Right.
• 53:59
  Right.
• 53:59
  And they're going to make you out to be the bad guy.
• 54:02
  And now here we are 20 years later.
• 54:05
  That's exactly what they're doing.
• 54:07
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 54:08
  And look, you don't think it's as big of a deal.
• 54:11
  But at the same time, I'm going to disagree.
• 54:14
  I think it is.
• 54:14
  When you have...
• 54:15
  Well, I don't think it's as big of a deal because I don't think their numbers are to a level where they're going to take over the Democratic Party.
• 54:25
  Yeah.
• 54:25
  I think you still got the Gavin Newsom's, the Pete Buttigieg, guys like that that are a little bit more.
• 54:31
  I mean, when I was in San Francisco, when Gavin Newsom first ran for mayor, as a liberal Democrat, he was the conservative candidate on the ballot.
• 54:46
  And everybody was further left than him.
• 54:49
  Yeah.
• 54:50
  I think he's matured to a point where he knows that his party, his game ain't the only one in town.
• 54:58
  Right.
• 54:59
  And he's got to keep another side happy as well.
• 55:02
  I don't think any of the Bernie, yes, but AOC and all of the other Democratic socialists, they're also the extreme that I don't like.
• 55:17
  because like I was saying, I think off camera,
• 55:20
  they're less likely to sit down with the MAGA side,
• 55:26
  the other far end, and try to find that common ground
• 55:30
  because it's our way of the highway.
• 55:34
  MAGA says if you're 99% in, you're 100% out.
• 55:40
  They want you all in all day.
• 55:44
  Yeah.
• 55:45
  It's not going to get anything done.
• 55:46
  That I can see for sure.
• 55:48
  But here's the problem.
• 55:50
  It's not just about who's getting on the ballot for November that are DSA members.
• 55:55
  It's about who we don't know who has been turned that is already in the Democrat Party.
• 56:00
  You know, AOC never came out as a Democratic Socialist until more recently.
• 56:04
  Bernie was always there.
• 56:06
  And so the problem is you got two very prominent leaders within the party that are super influential.
• 56:13
  And that is an issue.
• 56:16
  We could look at MAGA and we could look at the America firsters and everybody else.
• 56:20
  And they're just still going to look like either right wing or conservative, but it still aligns with America.
• 56:28
  It doesn't because it's not it's not an opposing system.
• 56:32
  You know, we weren't built on socialism.
• 56:34
  We have socialist programs.
• 56:36
  You know, we have that makes sense.
• 56:38
  But we're not socialists in nature as far as our government's concerned or our country.
• 56:42
  And so that, I think, is what's scary.
• 56:44
  If you're talking about the DSA, even the founder, I think it was 2023, even he became appalled at some point because he saw that they were adopting more and more people into the DSA that actually literally admitted and are aligned with Marxist organizations.
• 56:59
  So even the DSA has been infiltrated by not just democratic socialists, they're kind of losing their way as well to becoming more Marxist aligned.
• 57:08
  And so that's why I think there's a danger.
• 57:10
  Which is proven to already be an ineffective, unsuccessful method of government.
• 57:17
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 57:19
  That is.
• 57:20
  But that's why I have an issue with this.
• 57:23
  It's not me blaming Democrats.
• 57:25
  It's me going, hey, Democrat Party, you do realize that these guys may have not have been a good partner for you.
• 57:31
  And when you have co-chairs and chairs of the DSA literally saying, oh, we just use the Democrat Party as a platform.
• 57:36
  And now that they're getting votes, they're saying, well, this is what we really believe and this is what we're going to do.
• 57:41
  So that's my concern.
• 57:42
  It's not a bash the Democrats.
• 57:44
  It's like, no, I got to be honest.
• 57:46
  It was like, how did you get fooled by this?
• 57:48
  They're telling you who they are.
• 57:50
  That's what I never understood with Bernie Sanders caucusing with the Democrats.
• 57:56
  You say you're an independent.
• 57:58
  You say you're a Democrat socialist.
• 58:01
  Go caucus by yourself.
• 58:03
  True.
• 58:03
  Yeah, exactly.
• 58:04
  Exactly.
• 58:05
  As a Democrat, and I'm not, by the way, I'm an independent.
• 58:09
  Not only because of my show, but my political science degree.
• 58:12
  If I write a paper slamming anybody or building them up, and I'm with or against that same party, it's going to look kind of stupid.
• 58:20
  As an independent, I can be like a referee.
• 58:23
  Yeah, that makes sense.
• 58:24
  If I were a Democrat, I would have been against that from day one.
• 58:30
  No, he can't be on the same debate stage as Hillary Clinton during a primary.
• 58:34
  Because he's not a Democrat.
• 58:37
  Exactly.
• 58:39
  The end.
• 58:40
  Well, the sliver of hope I have is what we've seen recently with the recent primaries in which I'm drawing a blank here.
• 58:50
  I'm sorry.
• 58:51
  The Republican side or which ones?
• 58:53
  It was the Democratic primaries.
• 58:55
  What's her name?
• 58:57
  Was it Hong?
• 58:58
  I forgot her first name.
• 59:01
  I do know who you're talking about.
• 59:03
  She's from Michigan or Minnesota somewhere up there.
• 59:08
  I believe Michigan.
• 59:09
  Yeah.
• 59:11
  She's a mayor.
• 59:12
  I think.
• 59:14
  What was her name?
• 59:15
  See,
• 59:15
  dang it.
• 59:16
  Here I am unprepared.
• 59:17
  It's all right.
• 59:18
  It's all right.
• 59:19
  I drew the brain.
• 59:20
  Let me see.
• 59:21
  You know,
• 59:22
  I'm going to do it right now.
• 59:23
  I usually don't do certain of the recordings,
• 59:24
  but whatever.
• 59:25
  That's it.
• 59:25
  Francesca Hong.
• 59:26
  So you got Francesca Hong who lost.
• 59:29
  Okay.
• 59:30
  Which was a good thing.
• 59:31
  And I forgot who the other person was, but there was another one that they were both DSA aligned or socialist aligned.
• 59:38
  And I think the Democrats in those areas, they finally woke up and go, well, this isn't a good thing because we have too many DSA people winning.
• 59:47
  And their vote, they cast their vote the right way.
• 59:49
  They said, no, no, no, we can't put you in this seat for November for the general election.
• 59:53
  and they did not win their primaries
• 59:56
  to represent the Democratic side
• 59:58
  in the general election in those areas,
• 1:00:00
  which is what we're looking for.
• 1:00:01
  So I think the Democrats are turning around
• 1:00:03
  or starting to realize it.
• 1:00:04
  Now, if we're talking about the Democrat Party, though,
• 1:00:06
  who's the leader at this point?
• 1:00:08
  Who stands out to you
• 1:00:09
  that would be able to represent the Democrat Party?
• 1:00:12
  So if we're looking at 2028,
• 1:00:14
  how is the Democrat Party going to stand out?
• 1:00:16
  And if they could win the presidency,
• 1:00:18
  I mean, there's always a possibility,
• 1:00:20
  who's going to do it, though?
• 1:00:21
  I think there's two people that will resurface back to popularity.
• 1:00:29
  One has been on the front lines, so to speak.
• 1:00:36
  But he took a step back because he knows he doesn't want to burn all the powder now.
• 1:00:42
  And those are going to be Gavin Newsom and Pete Buttigieg.
• 1:00:47
  I also think you're going to see Mark Kelly, who has clearly weathered plenty of Republican storms as a senator.
• 1:01:01
  I think Josh Shapiro from Pennsylvania is very popular in Pennsylvania.
• 1:01:07
  I think the problem that any governor has is that they're popular in their state, but they don't have the national spotlight.
• 1:01:19
  Very true.
• 1:01:20
  When Kamala Harris came out with Tim Waltz, he was the third choice, or actually he was my third choice because I knew who Josh Shapiro was because I'm from Pennsylvania.
• 1:01:33
  But even so, I've seen him in the news and engaging in, not international, but national conversations.
• 1:01:44
  I forget who the, oh, Mark Kelly, I think was the other option for Kamala Harris.
• 1:01:51
  And so we know who both of them are.
• 1:01:53
  And then she goes with a guy literally nobody heard of unless you're in Minnesota, where he was the governor, where he is the governor.
• 1:02:03
  Yeah, nobody heard of him.
• 1:02:06
  How is that going to help your ticket when, by the way, you're a black woman, you're an Indian woman, you have pretty much every minority possible in your pedigree.
• 1:02:19
  That's not going to help you either.
• 1:02:22
  You're not some crazy old white man that's been the president for the past 250 years with one exception.
• 1:02:29
  We had a crazy old black man for a while At least he crazy and old now he tell you that But she was already coming into this without a Democratic primary
• 1:02:43
  So here's the one.
• 1:02:45
  Here's the party talking about maintaining freedoms and free and fair elections.
• 1:02:50
  Except this time.
• 1:02:52
  Right.
• 1:02:54
  Which was bad all around.
• 1:02:56
  Yeah.
• 1:02:56
  Kamala didn't make sense to me back then as the pick.
• 1:02:59
  it really didn't make any sense to me or anybody i knew it was like they didn't have anybody else
• 1:03:05
  why would you not go with your vice president right right and that was the whole point he didn't say it
• 1:03:12
  um he didn't say it uh bluntly but he very noticeably insinuated that he was going to be
• 1:03:24
  a one-term-and-done president, and that's Joe Biden.
• 1:03:28
  And everybody kind of had that vibe.
• 1:03:33
  And now all of a sudden, he's got one part of a little bit of kick of energy
• 1:03:38
  after four years, and he wants to do four more.
• 1:03:42
  I don't think that would have been the issue.
• 1:03:44
  And I said it.
• 1:03:46
  Four more years is not his hurdle.
• 1:03:49
  One more campaign is.
• 1:03:51
  and when he came back with the flu
• 1:03:55
  going right into a debate
• 1:03:57
  that I don't care how much you prepared for
• 1:04:00
  with the flu, you're never really going to have prepared
• 1:04:03
  and he looked awful.
• 1:04:06
  That was his Richard Nixon against Kennedy
• 1:04:10
  even though they were both old men in this one.
• 1:04:13
  I was going to say, you combine that with his age, it's not good.
• 1:04:17
  You're not some young buck who just can power through.
• 1:04:20
  It's going to affect you in a way it's not going to affect a younger person, for example.
• 1:04:26
  So McCullough is still an interesting pick.
• 1:04:27
  So do you think AOC is going to rise to the task, though?
• 1:04:32
  Because she's kind of being pushed out there, or at least they're testing the waters to see how people respond.
• 1:04:38
  I see her replacing Chuck Schumer as a senator for New York.
• 1:04:43
  Okay.
• 1:04:44
  When he finally pulls the plug, and that's also well overdue between him and Pelosi, it's time to just go hold hands and join Joe on the beach somewhere.
• 1:04:56
  Not because they're too old, but because they're too old.
• 1:05:02
  I mean, yeah, let's just be honest.
• 1:05:04
  It's not just the number.
• 1:05:06
  It's the capability to do the job.
• 1:05:09
  If she still had that capability, she'd still be the speaker or the leader.
• 1:05:14
  of the Democratic Party.
• 1:05:16
  She wouldn't have been forced out to Hakeem Jeffries.
• 1:05:19
  At some point, though, is not age an issue
• 1:05:22
  because Mitch McConnell is the same thing.
• 1:05:24
  He's like that vampire that won't go away.
• 1:05:26
  It's like, dude, it's done.
• 1:05:28
  What are we doing?
• 1:05:30
  And that's the point.
• 1:05:31
  It's not age just because you've hit a number.
• 1:05:35
  It's age because you've hit an inability.
• 1:05:38
  Yes, exactly.
• 1:05:39
  I was just going to say that.
• 1:05:40
  That's exactly it.
• 1:05:42
  And Chuck Schumer is the same way.
• 1:05:44
  It's time to let it go.
• 1:05:46
  Congress wasn't always, and neither was the presidency.
• 1:05:50
  It wasn't until Franklin Roosevelt that we actually put amendments into the Constitution limiting the term limits of the president.
• 1:05:58
  Up until then, it was just a tradition started by George Washington that you did no more than two terms.
• 1:06:08
  And so now Franklin Delano Roosevelt gets elected to four terms.
• 1:06:14
  And that's when we as a country said, this ain't okay.
• 1:06:18
  When Donald Trump makes jokes about a third term, they're not jokes.
• 1:06:24
  Back in 2017, when he was first elected, I was the side agent for his last inaugural ball of that evening.
• 1:06:35
  My staff counterpart and I got along real well.
• 1:06:40
  They did something crazy.
• 1:06:42
  and I'm amazed, like, what the hell?
• 1:06:47
  Like, maybe it was like the Muslim ban
• 1:06:49
  or something like that.
• 1:06:51
  I run into Luke, his name was Luke.
• 1:06:54
  I run into him in a bar.
• 1:06:57
  I said, Luke, what the hell?
• 1:07:01
  He said to me, Yergs, you think that's crazy?
• 1:07:05
  Wait till you see us in our second and third term.
• 1:07:12
  Yeah, it doesn't matter where you fall on the political spectrum.
• 1:07:18
  That statement should scare the hell out of you.
• 1:07:21
  Yeah, I'm not.
• 1:07:22
  And or piss you off.
• 1:07:24
  I'm not going to agree with that whatsoever.
• 1:07:25
  Whether I like Trump or not, if I'm conservative or MAGA, it doesn't matter.
• 1:07:31
  There is no third term.
• 1:07:33
  It's two and you're done.
• 1:07:34
  You get eight years, you're out of here.
• 1:07:36
  That's just what it is.
• 1:07:37
  but I think aside from that danger,
• 1:07:40
  which I don't think is going to come to fruition.
• 1:07:42
  He can talk all he wants,
• 1:07:43
  but I think the American people will be smart enough to go in.
• 1:07:46
  And then I don't know if we can go for that.
• 1:07:48
  I think the danger we have in this country at this moment,
• 1:07:51
  when it comes to terms is absolutely in Congress.
• 1:07:54
  No term limits whatsoever.
• 1:07:56
  They say there is,
• 1:07:57
  but is there like they can just keep getting reelected perpetually,
• 1:08:01
  like in perpetuity.
• 1:08:02
  I mean,
• 1:08:03
  until they age out,
• 1:08:04
  I guess it would become ineffective.
• 1:08:07
  because they can no longer walk or function mentally.
• 1:08:09
  That's not a good position to have.
• 1:08:11
  Or they stand there with a blank stare on their face
• 1:08:13
  in front of a camera on live TV.
• 1:08:14
  Just drooling.
• 1:08:16
  Doesn't even know where they are.
• 1:08:17
  Mitch McConnell has done more than once.
• 1:08:19
  Oh, absolutely.
• 1:08:20
  And so that's the issue we have.
• 1:08:22
  The second thing with Congress is it was always a service
• 1:08:24
  and whatever you got was a stipend.
• 1:08:27
  I think it was the 70s.
• 1:08:28
  You can correct me on this.
• 1:08:29
  I think it was the 70s where they voted
• 1:08:30
  to actually raise their salaries tremendously.
• 1:08:33
  And now, is it $172,000 or $174,000 a year now?
• 1:08:37
  that's that's the what the rookie gets as a freshman congressman that's what you get
• 1:08:42
  and and that's where we were capped um we were not allowed to make more than a junior congressman
• 1:08:50
  so if we did so much overtime and so much overtime but we hit that ceiling
• 1:08:55
  we couldn't get paid anymore besides our actual base salary crazy and and so that didn't mean we
• 1:09:04
  got stopped from being scheduled 12 hour midnights at the ranch in Waco, Texas or wherever.
• 1:09:12
  We still had to work.
• 1:09:15
  And so that was put into a legislation where we were exempted.
• 1:09:18
  We, the Secret Service, were exempted from that for protection purposes.
• 1:09:23
  But yes, I think it's 174, 176,000 is what a starting congressman gets.
• 1:09:29
  And that was my point too.
• 1:09:31
  It was never a career.
• 1:09:33
  No, it wasn't.
• 1:09:34
  John Adams didn't want to go to Congress.
• 1:09:37
  He needed to repair his farm after having taken time off from that to defend the British soldiers from the Boston Massacre.
• 1:09:46
  And now he had to, because of doing that, he had to rebuild his practice because he lost clients who said, oh, you're a Tory.
• 1:09:54
  I don't want you to represent me.
• 1:09:57
  No, I'm a firm believer in constitutional law and everybody has the right to an attorney.
• 1:10:04
  and so he didn't want to go to Congress.
• 1:10:07
  Yeah.
• 1:10:08
  But now we see what a cush job it is.
• 1:10:11
  They don't even want to retire from it when they could.
• 1:10:16
  But there's no other oversight or other committee
• 1:10:20
  or any executive action that could be had to limit their power.
• 1:10:24
  To be honest, like Congress votes on their salaries.
• 1:10:27
  They vote on if they get any privileges, retirement, medical.
• 1:10:31
  They vote on if they would get term limits.
• 1:10:34
  Everything is in their own hands, which is crazy.
• 1:10:37
  There's no other part of the government or branch of government that can step in and say, hey, Congress, no, you can't do this.
• 1:10:43
  But yet Congress can do that to other branches of government.
• 1:10:47
  And they'll actually tell you that's the reason why their Article 1 of the Constitution is because for separate but equal branches of government, less so for them.
• 1:11:02
  Absolutely.
• 1:11:02
  And that's why I think, as I understand it, if we were to convene the Constitutional Convention, which is the other way that we can implement or introduce amendments to the Constitution, everything is in play.
• 1:11:23
  How do we get people-
• 1:11:32
  the term limits of Congress.
• 1:11:35
  Once you do that,
• 1:11:37
  one through 26 is on the table.
• 1:11:39
  And so is one, two, three, four, and five.
• 1:11:43
  Articles, articles, one, two, three, four, and five.
• 1:11:45
  How do we get people to focus, pay attention,
• 1:11:47
  and actually come together to do these things, though?
• 1:11:51
  So we have to get the new people in,
• 1:11:54
  like James Tallarico in Texas,
• 1:11:58
  or any other new Republican who's not MAGA and not into any, regardless of the party,
• 1:12:06
  who's not into politics as usual, who's willing to say,
• 1:12:12
  not only am I going to be here for a set, limited amount of time, and then I'm out,
• 1:12:20
  But I'm going to introduce the constitutional amendment to limit Congress as a whole.
• 1:12:31
  And then once they guilt trip everybody else in the following suit, hey, I introduced it.
• 1:12:38
  This guy from Idaho or this one from wherever led the charge to shoot it down.
• 1:12:45
  Now we got to shame them in explaining why.
• 1:12:48
  at 76 years of age,
• 1:12:51
  you can't have term limits.
• 1:12:54
  Yeah.
• 1:12:55
  I get that.
• 1:12:56
  It's going to take someone charismatic,
• 1:12:58
  someone who has the attention
• 1:13:00
  of the actual people
• 1:13:01
  and get the people behind that.
• 1:13:04
  But I mean, if we're going to be honest,
• 1:13:06
  they got a good thing They not going to destroy that Right It the other thing There oil the one thing we fight over Right And power is the other thing
• 1:13:20
  And anybody that's got it rarely wants to let it go.
• 1:13:25
  Yeah.
• 1:13:25
  It's not going to happen.
• 1:13:27
  I mean, whether they say power corrupts and corrupts, absolutely.
• 1:13:30
  Yeah.
• 1:13:31
  And if we're looking at politics right now, like when you're talking about the news, that's the thing.
• 1:13:36
  I think we're supposed to have the power as a people.
• 1:13:40
  We could go to the government as a people, okay, and change these things.
• 1:13:45
  But we don't.
• 1:13:45
  We're divided because, as you mentioned earlier, the news cycle is too fast.
• 1:13:49
  It's like the old Steve Bannon thing where it's like just throwing shit at the wall,
• 1:13:52
  see what sticks, just flood the internet.
• 1:13:55
  And they do this so that they hope you forget because most people will.
• 1:14:01
  Because people have been trained to be nothing like a dog with a squirrel running by.
• 1:14:05
  I was like, oh, look, there's something there now.
• 1:14:07
  Oh, look at this one.
• 1:14:08
  They're not paying attention long enough.
• 1:14:10
  And they have short memories, unfortunately.
• 1:14:14
  That's why I'm so glad to see people still saying, yeah, this, this, and this about Trump.
• 1:14:19
  And don't forget, release the Epstein files.
• 1:14:24
  You mean release all of it?
• 1:14:27
  Yes.
• 1:14:27
  Yeah.
• 1:14:27
  Yes.
• 1:14:28
  Well, that's another conversation.
• 1:14:29
  I mean, we can keep going with that.
• 1:14:30
  But that also is a two decades long investigation with resources and money that got nowhere until Trump was involved.
• 1:14:39
  So I can give him credit for at least releasing what he did.
• 1:14:43
  But at the same time, it was under two previous presidents that did nothing with it either.
• 1:14:49
  And we can argue about sealed records and whatever, but I'm sorry.
• 1:14:53
  I mean, there was plenty of evidence, tapes, everything else for nearly two decades.
• 1:14:56
  if there was absolutely nothing there
• 1:14:59
  what do we spend the resources and money on for
• 1:15:00
  for what so there is
• 1:15:03
  something there absolutely
• 1:15:04
  at this point
• 1:15:06
  I don't know if we're ever going to get anything out of it and I'm
• 1:15:08
  not saying to move on but
• 1:15:10
  you know because it's still it's a concern like that is
• 1:15:13
  something that should be addressed but we can also
• 1:15:15
  address other things that we know about that can
• 1:15:17
  can happen like why do we
• 1:15:19
  have a slush fund in Congress to address sexual
• 1:15:20
  misconduct
• 1:15:21
  why why do they have that they admitted
• 1:15:24
  they have that? To address things
• 1:15:27
  that happen to people in Congress when they do
• 1:15:28
  something that is not appropriate?
• 1:15:32
  Can we address that?
• 1:15:34
  To pay people off? Yeah.
• 1:15:35
  Can anybody
• 1:15:37
  in Congress or any other politician,
• 1:15:39
  for example, go to jail for anything?
• 1:15:41
  Because in my life, I don't recall
• 1:15:43
  seeing anybody go
• 1:15:44
  to jail for anything that I
• 1:15:47
  know of as far as a politician is concerned. Maybe at
• 1:15:49
  the city level. I think the only
• 1:15:51
  one in recent
• 1:15:54
  John Edwards from South Carolina for income tax and campaign finance fraud.
• 1:16:07
  And he did something with his law firm too.
• 1:16:11
  And then more recently, George Santos from New York.
• 1:16:17
  Remember that clown?
• 1:16:19
  Why aren't these things?
• 1:16:21
  Well, we know why they're not.
• 1:16:22
  but they're not front page news, for example.
• 1:16:26
  It's like the average person...
• 1:16:27
  It's not front page news for long.
• 1:16:30
  No.
• 1:16:30
  Yeah.
• 1:16:31
  You never see it on social media.
• 1:16:33
  None of these things come up.
• 1:16:35
  And that's great.
• 1:16:38
  That's two examples, but it's not enough.
• 1:16:40
  It's not enough.
• 1:16:41
  No.
• 1:16:41
  My concern is this.
• 1:16:43
  Gavin Newsom, you brought up.
• 1:16:44
  I live in California.
• 1:16:45
  I've interviewed many politicians.
• 1:16:47
  I know a lot of people in government
• 1:16:50
  and hold various positions that have to deal with him.
• 1:16:53
  The guy is a fucking fraud.
• 1:16:55
  I'm just going to say it.
• 1:16:56
  And yeah, I curse, so I don't mean to offend you,
• 1:16:57
  but he's a fraud.
• 1:16:58
  The guy is not going to be good for America.
• 1:17:01
  He's destroyed California.
• 1:17:03
  And so my fear is that the Democrat party
• 1:17:08
  will get behind Gavin.
• 1:17:09
  Gavin's going to be bad.
• 1:17:10
  He looks slick.
• 1:17:11
  He talks good, et cetera.
• 1:17:12
  But he's not going to be good for America.
• 1:17:15
  And so I hope that they don't get behind Gavin.
• 1:17:19
  And that's quite possible because remember when we talked about when he ran for mayor in San Francisco as a liberal Democrat, admitted liberal Democrat.
• 1:17:31
  He was the conservative on that particular ballot.
• 1:17:35
  So he's got to make a lot of changes compared to what he's already done with California for that to work on a national stage.
• 1:17:45
  And I think that's where so many governors lose is because they think their one state is like, what did DeSantis say?
• 1:17:58
  Make America Florida.
• 1:18:00
  It doesn't translate.
• 1:18:01
  Hell no.
• 1:18:03
  I've got, I live on the water in Florida.
• 1:18:06
  I bought this house for $450,000.
• 1:18:09
  It's worth about two thirds of that right now because of what the hurricane did.
• 1:18:13
  It's two years after the major hurricane.
• 1:18:16
  I'm still rebuilding.
• 1:18:17
  And when I bought this, my pension paid for all my bills, paid for everything.
• 1:18:26
  And I was putting $500 a month away into a savings, plus taking my roughly $2,800 and
• 1:18:34
  change mortgage and rounding it up to $3,000 with extra money on the principal.
• 1:18:40
  Yeah, so you can pay it off sooner.
• 1:18:41
  now i've i had to get the part-time the full-time job actually that i had at best buy because i've
• 1:18:50
  taken out two loans in 2025 just to pay bills just to get ahead that's not sustainable that's
• 1:18:58
  that's not to get ahead that's to keep up that's to keep my head above water that's not sustainable
• 1:19:03
  yeah that's just to meet your nuts so right you want to make that you want to make that around the
• 1:19:07
  rest of the country around DeSantis?
• 1:19:09
  I don't think that's a good idea.
• 1:19:11
  Yeah, no, I get you.
• 1:19:12
  And I think that that's a good example, I think, of how when government gets removed
• 1:19:18
  from the people, like when it gets too far removed from the people that I don't think
• 1:19:22
  they understand what's actually needed because the same thing happened in California with
• 1:19:26
  the Palisade fires.
• 1:19:27
  To this day, still nothing going on.
• 1:19:29
  And instead of taking care of those people and allowing them to rebuild, what do they
• 1:19:32
  do?
• 1:19:33
  they pass a provision
• 1:19:36
  I'm not sure if it's really moving forward yet
• 1:19:39
  but I know that they're on track to
• 1:19:40
  replace that all with apartments
• 1:19:42
  apartments
• 1:19:44
  I heard that
• 1:19:45
  and they also have publicly said that they were
• 1:19:49
  wanting to implement
• 1:19:50
  the idea of a 15 minute city
• 1:19:52
  not just over there in the Palisades but also
• 1:19:54
  they said they were going to try that in Dublin, California
• 1:19:56
  as well
• 1:19:57
  very interesting
• 1:19:59
  what type of city?
• 1:20:00
  15 minute city where everything is within 15 minutes
• 1:20:03
  Like, they want to keep you captured within a 15 minute.
• 1:20:06
  And this is a conspiracy.
• 1:20:08
  I mean, this was actually said by Klaus Schwab of the WEF on video.
• 1:20:14
  And he said that that was a WEF policy that they were trying to implement across the world.
• 1:20:18
  And it was funny to hear leaders in California government say that exact phrase as a way to rebuild a city, turn it into a 15 minute city.
• 1:20:29
  So is it really a left versus right thing right now?
• 1:20:32
  or is it a government or the two sides of the same coin and they just don't have the people's
• 1:20:38
  best interest but that's that's actually an argument that james tellerico makes he said
• 1:20:43
  it's not left first right it's top first bottom yeah it with reference to the economic scale as
• 1:20:50
  opposed to the political one yeah i and that makes sense as far as economics yes but i also think in
• 1:20:56
  politics too i mean no exactly yeah you know yeah a lot of these guys are probably meeting you know
• 1:21:03
  after they do the whole rah-rah thing on camera and argue and you know stab each other on air and
• 1:21:07
  then they go on the back and have a cigar and be like hey you know oh you're still coming over
• 1:21:10
  tomorrow you know how many people and he didn't mention names unfortunately but how many people
• 1:21:16
  said to mitt romney who voted to convict donald trump that they wish they had the courage to do
• 1:21:25
  that because they were too afraid for their family.
• 1:21:29
  What are you in the United States Senate for?
• 1:21:31
  I don't know, man.
• 1:21:35
  Look, I think moving forward, I just want to see a government that really puts the people
• 1:21:38
  first.
• 1:21:38
  And I would like to see turn limits in Congress.
• 1:21:41
  And I think the far left, far right, the fringes, I think people need to stop buying
• 1:21:46
  into the flash and the flare that they see on social media.
• 1:21:51
  Do a little more research.
• 1:21:52
  Stop living on the surface of information.
• 1:21:54
  and actually go through the history.
• 1:21:56
  Is socialism good?
• 1:21:58
  What does it usually lead to?
• 1:21:59
  Communism.
• 1:22:00
  Why are they so parallel?
• 1:22:01
  I don't know.
• 1:22:02
  Who's Karl Marx?
• 1:22:03
  Really look into what happens.
• 1:22:05
  At what point do we ever see a communist nation
• 1:22:07
  ever be ran by anything but an authoritarian or dictator?
• 1:22:11
  Do they really have a democratic party?
• 1:22:12
  No, they never do.
• 1:22:14
  It's like we don't have a real example
• 1:22:16
  of a true democratic socialist nation.
• 1:22:18
  Okay, not even Switzerland.
• 1:22:18
  They have democratic socialism within their,
• 1:22:21
  I think in their constitution,
• 1:22:22
  They have a lot of the policies, but they are not true, pure democratic socialists.
• 1:22:28
  Okay?
• 1:22:28
  So we don't have an example of it actually working for the people.
• 1:22:32
  And when it comes to the US, this left versus right divide that we've seen amplified ever since Trump came down the escalator, it needs to stop, man.
• 1:22:41
  We need to look at ourselves as humans and we need to look at ourselves as people that go through the same shit every day.
• 1:22:46
  I'm paying the same thing you are, right?
• 1:22:49
  My gas costs as much as yours does.
• 1:22:51
  if you have kids in sports,
• 1:22:54
  hey, you might see each other on the football
• 1:22:56
  field, right? You got to realize there might
• 1:22:58
  be these hardline issues that
• 1:23:00
  separate us, but everything else,
• 1:23:02
  I'm going to say maybe 10 to 15
• 1:23:04
  percent may separate us, but everything else, we're
• 1:23:06
  pretty common on.
• 1:23:08
  It's kind of ridiculous that we've gotten
• 1:23:10
  to this point, and maybe we can blame that
• 1:23:12
  on Trump because he's so polarizing.
• 1:23:14
  It was easy. It was easy because the way he
• 1:23:16
  talks, how he delivers his information,
• 1:23:19
  calling out the media, making fun
• 1:23:20
  of people. I mean, that's not presidential. And I'll
• 1:23:22
  be honest, I would like to see a presidential
• 1:23:24
  president. But I do
• 1:23:26
  credit him for getting things done.
• 1:23:28
  But again, he is a hammer
• 1:23:30
  and the hammer, he's just
• 1:23:32
  breaking shit. He's a
• 1:23:34
  hammer in an operating room.
• 1:23:36
  It doesn't need to be.
• 1:23:38
  And that's a great
• 1:23:40
  way to describe it.
• 1:23:42
  I think we had a great conversation I don want to keep longer yours So tell everybody how they can find you Tell everybody about you Tell them about Mastiff Media
• 1:23:53
  So I get into that when I started retiring,
• 1:23:56
  the whole process of retiring from the Secret Service.
• 1:23:59
  I looked at my equivalent to a 401k
• 1:24:03
  as something in the government
• 1:24:04
  called the Thrift Savings Program.
• 1:24:06
  And you get,
• 1:24:08
  your government matches a certain level
• 1:24:10
  of contribution and so on.
• 1:24:11
  and it's different funds.
• 1:24:15
  And one is really aggressive, but higher risk.
• 1:24:18
  The other is much lower risk,
• 1:24:20
  but it doesn't make anything off of it.
• 1:24:23
  Unfortunately, for most of my career,
• 1:24:24
  I had my money in that one.
• 1:24:27
  And when I went to retire,
• 1:24:29
  I didn't have a lot there.
• 1:24:31
  It was only about $300,000.
• 1:24:33
  So I started doing something to make up for that,
• 1:24:36
  which is something you shouldn't do
• 1:24:38
  in what I'm about to get into.
• 1:24:40
  And that's day trading.
• 1:24:41
  If you lose a trade, you don't do what's called revenge trading.
• 1:24:45
  You step back, you take a breath, you do your research again, you set your next trade up, and you wait for it to happen.
• 1:24:53
  But I did.
• 1:24:54
  I had an amazing first year as a rookie day trader.
• 1:24:58
  And I wanted to teach that to others.
• 1:25:01
  So I started a YouTube channel called The Doggy Traders.
• 1:25:04
  doing my homework as i always done and and teach my listeners to do i learned about from there
• 1:25:11
  podcasting streaming like you're doing um all that stuff and i realized that there are there's so much
• 1:25:21
  more out there beyond just podcasting or just youtube a friend of mine and i had our episodes
• 1:25:29
  We were doing just podcasts and video streams.
• 1:25:33
  We put the video on YouTube.
• 1:25:35
  We put the same episode on Spotify.
• 1:25:40
  The YouTube episode did great.
• 1:25:44
  The same episode in video format on Spotify sucked.
• 1:25:49
  Next week, another episode.
• 1:25:52
  And it's just the opposite.
• 1:25:53
  So I had been looking into internet radio, and I said to my buddy, David, let's put our episodes on a radio station, promote that, and see what happens.
• 1:26:09
  Long story short, both YouTube and Spotify continued the back and forth tennis match, but also continued to grow.
• 1:26:17
  We didn't lose anybody to the new Yerg's Radio, my first of eight radio stations.
• 1:26:25
  And so now we see Yerg's Radio starting to grow.
• 1:26:29
  And that's how we realized that this is a whole separate demographic that so many podcasters really aren't taking advantage of.
• 1:26:38
  So I developed actually six different stations.
• 1:26:42
  There's two in the background that I have for other people.
• 1:26:45
  that are different genres of talk radio or podcasting.
• 1:26:52
  There's a conservative station.
• 1:26:54
  There's a progressive station.
• 1:26:55
  There's an LGBT station.
• 1:26:57
  My first one was Yerg's radio.
• 1:26:59
  It's just basically positive talk.
• 1:27:01
  Now every morning I do a news radio show for a news station
• 1:27:05
  and there's a sports station.
• 1:27:07
  So if you or any of your listeners have a podcast
• 1:27:10
  that can fit any of those,
• 1:27:12
  and believe me, we'll fit it in somewhere, let me know.
• 1:27:15
  That's at massdeflikethedog.media.
• 1:27:18
  That's the company.
• 1:27:19
  That's where everything's at to include both my shows.
• 1:27:22
  Up the middle is 6.30 Sunday nights Eastern time for an hour.
• 1:27:29
  And then we're followed up by this week in outrage.
• 1:27:32
  My friend David and his wife, he has a podcast called Outrage Overload where he studies what we were talking about earlier.
• 1:27:40
  and that's how everybody just wants to get you angry
• 1:27:42
  and charged up and pumped up and amped up
• 1:27:45
  to talk about what you agree on.
• 1:27:48
  Nobody really does the bridge building that he now does
• 1:27:51
  and sits people down at the same table
• 1:27:53
  and has the discussions that we need to have.
• 1:27:56
  So he follows me at 7.30 Eastern
• 1:27:58
  with This Week in Outrage.
• 1:28:00
  It's just a funny show with him and his wife
• 1:28:01
  just basically going through the media
• 1:28:03
  and adding their two cents to it.
• 1:28:06
  But then mornings, I have my morning show at 6 a.m.
• 1:28:10
  Eastern. It's the Mastiff Media Morning Show, news, traffic, weather, tide schedules, and feature
• 1:28:17
  stories for the state of Florida. What we're doing is try to combating things like iHeart and the big
• 1:28:23
  radio conglomerates. We're trying to create smaller radio conglomerates that are more like
• 1:28:29
  an association of sorts. Mom and pop still own their small town radio station,
• 1:28:34
  but they use our regional radio show as their morning show to build a definite listenership
• 1:28:42
  and something that is more economical for them, but still very productive.
• 1:28:47
  So that's what we're doing with that one.
• 1:28:49
  Let's look at this up the middle here, which is your other show, how we kind of got connected here.
• 1:28:53
  That's the Sunday show.
• 1:28:55
  That's the season seven logo with the middle fingers as opposed to...
• 1:29:00
  About to be written.
• 1:29:01
  It doesn't have to be all about me.
• 1:29:04
  So I used to have my headshot on it, but now I had that one done.
• 1:29:12
  And here's your other honor talents here with your other shows.
• 1:29:15
  That's Jane.
• 1:29:16
  She and I do a, we record a podcast every Monday called Both Sides Now.
• 1:29:21
  That's David.
• 1:29:22
  He's from Outrage Overload.
• 1:29:24
  All right.
• 1:29:24
  Matt Deamer is from the Daily Crypto News.
• 1:29:27
  Amber May is the Amber May Show.
• 1:29:29
  She's on one of our conservative stations.
• 1:29:33
  Okay.
• 1:29:33
  Thomas Wu has a business podcast where he interviews other entrepreneurs and business experts.
• 1:29:40
  That's cool.
• 1:29:40
  Jeff Morey is also on Right Talk Radio.
• 1:29:44
  He's got the politics, prepping, and paranormal.
• 1:29:48
  I don't know if I have that in the right order, but it's those three Ps podcast.
• 1:29:54
  He's one of our conservative talk shows.
• 1:29:57
  Kathy Barthel is a women's show.
• 1:30:00
  She's got the Brat Bold, Relevant, Addictive, and Transformative.
• 1:30:05
  And she's on Yerg's radio.
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  Cameron does a new show with some friends of his.
• 1:30:12
  That's Lisa, Phil, and Aaron do Yeah, Uh-huh.
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  Just kind of another topical show where the three of them get together and put that together.
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  Okay, so that's all one show.
• 1:30:25
  Yeah, those three are on the same show.
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  It's called Yeah, Uh-huh.
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  Okay.
• 1:30:29
  Like, yeah, whatever type of.
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  And then that's Lisa.
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  That's David's wife.
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  She's on this week in outrage.
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  And that's Travis and Mark.
• 1:30:36
  They have a Tuesday night show called The Point with Travis Evans.
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  That's not just about black issues, but it's about political stuff.
• 1:30:45
  They're not the biggest Trumpers in the world, but they're also actually they're both also former sheriff deputies, too.
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  So they're both law enforcement.
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  Okay.
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  Very, very cool, man.
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  That's the team.
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  So you got a lot to offer everybody with your stations, your internet radio venture here.
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  And that was an interesting thing because I didn't even know that internet radio and that was still around.
• 1:31:09
  Yeah.
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  But that's actually where terrestrial radio is kind of sort of going.
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  And there's some people I've talked about, a bunch of different people, things that they've kept close to the vest, I don't really even know about.
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  but you're going to see internet radio make some serious changes and we're trying to do the same
• 1:31:28
  thing we're adding our two cents to it um i've seen some of your episodes and i think i talked
• 1:31:34
  to you about this briefly we'd love to have you on uh as well uh think about that and let me know
• 1:31:39
  what you think uh and to your listeners anybody else that's got podcasts or live streams or
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  whatever they want to do if you're creating the podcast in a pre-recorded form you've already got
• 1:31:51
  what we need all it has to do is a pre-recorded thing that will repurpose into the schedule as a
• 1:31:58
  syndicated radio show that's all syndicated radio is is a show that was done earlier recorded and
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  now played at a different time because that's when that town can afford to play it they can't play it
• 1:32:12
  when it's aired because they've got something else yeah it goes by available time slots and whatever
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  and who's got what airtime at what time.
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  And then that being said,
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  if you want to get onto a live schedule
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  or your listeners or whoever
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  want to get onto a live schedule,
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  we'll see what that fits to.
• 1:32:28
  Well, there you go, man.
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  Yeah, it'd be interesting to talk offline about that.
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  It sounds interesting for sure.
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  So anything else you want to tell anybody
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  before we sign off on this?
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  Leave this, what are we at, an hour and a half?
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  Yeah, roughly.
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  With this.
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  I don't care if you support Donald Trump.
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  I just need you to be able to tell me why.
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  If you support Donald Trump because your neighbor said he's the greatest president of our lifetime, that's not enough.
• 1:33:05
  And I would say the same thing if you supported Barack Obama for that same reason.
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  And so that's what we teach at Up the Middle is not only how to do your homework.
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  But why to do your homework?
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  So you make the decision for yourself and not made by somebody else.
• 1:33:24
  Right.
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  Makes a lot of sense, man.
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  Don't just jump on the bandwagon, do your research and be objective.
• 1:33:30
  Exactly.
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  I like it.
• 1:33:32
  All right, Yerks, we're going to end it here.
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  Go.
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  Stay on the line for a second.
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  But to everybody else, thank you much for tuning in and watching or listening.
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  And don't forget to like, share, and subscribe to the show.
• 1:33:45
  and we'll see you on the next one.
• 1:33:48
  Later.
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  Thanks, George.
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  You're welcome, George.
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  Devil's hide behind redemption.
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  Honesty is a one-way gate to hell.
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  Bye.