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The Eagles Are Super Bowl Contenders (PST Episode 595) · The Philadelphia Sports Table | Philly Sports News & Views

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  Speaker 1: What's going on everybody. I hope you're doing well. I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to let you know. This podcast episode was recorded
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  Speaker 1: on Wednesday, December fourth, twenty twenty four. By the time
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  Speaker 1: you hear this, some things may have changed here there,
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  Speaker 1: but we hope you enjoy the show. Welcome to the
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  Speaker 1: Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show, the longest running weekly Philly
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  Speaker 1: sports podcast show in the world, over eleven and a
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  Speaker 1: half years strong. Can't believe it's been that long. I
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  Speaker 1: am Jeff Warren. I am here with my good buddy
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  Speaker 1: Leonard Hunsicker. Lend buddy, how are you. It's good to
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  Speaker 1: hear your voice. I'm glad you're feeling a little healthier
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  Speaker 1: now after after having some and I procedure in this
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  Speaker 1: past week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just nothing I haven't had before, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's like super quick and so hopefully it's the last
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  Speaker 2: time I ever have to do that, but who knows.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, it just coming out of that, and I
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  Speaker 2: mean that was Yeah. I would have been groggy as
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  Speaker 2: hell for that show just because I was still it
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  Speaker 2: would have been coming on anesthesia, so I didn't Maybe
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  Speaker 2: it would have been great, might have even.
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  Speaker 1: Like the crazy stuff and been like, oh, the hell
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  Speaker 1: is going on with embiid? Why don't you get on
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  Speaker 1: the court, you mook.
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  Speaker 2: I'd let him know exactly how I felt, give him
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  Speaker 2: the business I've I've got my opinions on that at
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  Speaker 2: this point anyway, and none of them are positive, which
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  Speaker 2: there's there's really I mean, you know, okay, mac the's
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  Speaker 2: nice player, and McCain has been pretty good so far
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  Speaker 2: for a rookie, But man, and you would to talk
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  Speaker 2: about you want to talk about an organization that's not
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  Speaker 2: engendering any goodwill? All right now?
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  Speaker 1: Exactly cool gez And you know, you know what's interesting, folks,
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  Speaker 1: is that's about the extent of the Sixers that we're
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  Speaker 1: going to be getting into on this particular show.
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  Speaker 2: What else is there to say?
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  Speaker 1: Exactly exactly? I didn't put it on the agenda at
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  Speaker 1: all this week. I have nothing sixers on the agenda, Like,
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  Speaker 1: what are we going to talk about? They won two
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  Speaker 1: in a row? Whoo big whoop? What are we going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about? Like, honestly, like you said, Jared McCain
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  Speaker 1: has been fun to watch. It's great to watch a
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  Speaker 1: rookie doing some good things. You know, who knows, maybe
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna be Rookie of the Year, big whoop.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, and maybe I shouldn't. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe I shouldn't disrespect the poor kid like that.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't mean like I'm not trying to
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  Speaker 2: disrespect him or anything, but yeah, just like I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I hope he is good and has a good year
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  Speaker 2: and proves that he's a piece going forward on the
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  Speaker 2: steams as they move into the next iteration of whatever,
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  Speaker 2: because I don't know if there are many long term
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  Speaker 2: pieces for this team. All the people that are making
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  Speaker 2: all the money, I would not consider long term pieces. Yeah, exactly,
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  Speaker 2: even if they do have long term contracts, they are
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  Speaker 2: not long term pieces.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Well, that's about enough of the sixers here, So folks,
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  Speaker 1: real quick, just to give you a quick synopsis of
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  Speaker 1: what we're gonna be getting into on this show. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get in some major League baseball talk, the Golden
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  Speaker 1: at bat rule, Yes, we're gonna get into that. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get into robo umps as well, and what the
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  Speaker 1: future may hold for major League baseball as it pertains
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  Speaker 1: to these two ideas for the off season, and then
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  Speaker 1: after that we're gonna get into some Philadelphia Union talk,
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  Speaker 1: and after that we're gonna get into some brief Flyers
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  Speaker 1: talk as well. Are they getting back to their twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty three twenty twenty four form. We're gonna give our
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  Speaker 1: thoughts on that. Just some real quick thoughts on the
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  Speaker 1: college football playoff bracket and where the team may actually
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  Speaker 1: be like right now at this point early December, there's
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  Speaker 1: still some unknowns. But college football playoff bracket. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be really interesting this year. And then we
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  Speaker 1: got a ton of Eagles talk too. We've got BLG.
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  Speaker 1: Brandley Gouton from Bleedinggreen Nation dot com. He's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: joining us for a deep dive into what we've been
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  Speaker 1: seeing from this Eagles team and really where our expectations
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  Speaker 1: are now for this team. As Lenn, I think facing
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  Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions and the NFC Championship game is where
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  Speaker 1: everybody's expectations are at this point.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's fair. I mean, I think, honestly, I
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  Speaker 2: think anything less than that for both franchises. Really, it
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't surprise me if you were talking to a couple
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  Speaker 2: of people in Detroit and the and their thought process was, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we'll probably see the Eagles in the in the NFC
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  Speaker 2: Championship game. I think for both the fans of both organizations,
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  Speaker 2: if that's not what it is, there will probably be
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  Speaker 2: there not probably, there will definitely be some disappointment.
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  Speaker 1: There absolutely Well, we got a ton of Eagles talk
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  Speaker 1: coming your way. But first, let's get into some off
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  Speaker 1: season major league baseball talk. A man who loves baseball,
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  Speaker 1: Rob Manfred, he loves baseball. I'm kidding, of course, the
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  Speaker 1: man just hates baseball for God's sake, and he's in
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  Speaker 1: charge of it. He's been floating and looking to implement
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  Speaker 1: a few new ideas this offseason and into the future. Len,
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  Speaker 1: we got to get into the golden at bat rule
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  Speaker 1: that was proposed and floated by him. So, folks, if
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  Speaker 1: you don't know what this is at this point, what
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  Speaker 1: is the golden at bat? Exactly what Rob Madford has
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  Speaker 1: proposed or just floated, I should say. So, what if
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  Speaker 1: a team could choose one at bat in every game
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  Speaker 1: send their best hitter to the plate at any point
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  Speaker 1: in the game, even if it wasn't that particular's player,
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  Speaker 1: that particular players turn to hit at that point, A
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  Speaker 1: rule that would likely be used eighth, ninth innings tenth
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  Speaker 1: innings perhaps, and it's basically a pinch hitter whenever you
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  Speaker 1: want in the game. Len, this sucks. This entire idea
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  Speaker 1: fucking stinks. I have never seen a.
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  Speaker 2: Rule a language show.
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  Speaker 1: Oh it is, it is. This is gonna be like
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  Speaker 1: the Eric Shows.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, i'd been, I'd been, you know, watching my
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  Speaker 2: language on purpose, but now I won't.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, fuck that. Now when we're talking about this golden
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  Speaker 1: apt bat rule, Rob Manfred hates baseball to float something
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  Speaker 1: like this, this shitty idea. It actually enraged me when
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  Speaker 1: I first read it. I seriously thought I was reading
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  Speaker 1: an Onion article or something like that, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: what's happening here? Like, are you serious what this would
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  Speaker 1: do for the game of baseball? From a negative perspective, Len,
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  Speaker 1: I'm actually upset right now talking about this. I am
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  Speaker 1: because it you are. You're the traditionalist when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to baseball on this podcast. You have been you always
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  Speaker 1: have been a traditionalist. I've been more of the guy
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  Speaker 1: of Okay, we need to take baseball into the future
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  Speaker 1: in certain in some way, shape or form, right. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 1: I think most of the changes that Major League Baseball
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  Speaker 1: has made over the past, you know, year or two,
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  Speaker 1: they've been pretty much a smashing success. Include the pitch clock,
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  Speaker 1: a limited on pitching, changes to greatly speed up the game,
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  Speaker 1: larger bases, and banning the shift, increase action with the
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  Speaker 1: ball in play. I mean, other rules like the ghost
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  Speaker 1: runner and extra innings have been I think begrudgingly accepted
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  Speaker 1: from traditionalists and purists of the game. They feel it
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  Speaker 1: goes a little too far, would you say, right? I
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  Speaker 1: mean they've been tinkering here and there with the purity
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  Speaker 1: of the sport, I guess you would say. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that's where I get really pissed off with this
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  Speaker 1: golden at bat issue, like the what what is left
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  Speaker 1: of the purity of the game of baseball? You put
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  Speaker 1: this golden app bat in there, and it is complete dogshit.
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  Speaker 1: The game has really changed in a lot of ways.
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  Speaker 2: Why not just Okay, so let's say it's a nine thing, yes,
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  Speaker 2: and you got your seven, eight, nine hitters up for
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  Speaker 2: the Phillies, and you know, wouldn't it be nice to
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  Speaker 2: have Bryce Harper hit in that situation. I get why
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  Speaker 2: they're doing it. Maybe they want to market their stars more.
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  Speaker 2: I get I get that that is maybe part of
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  Speaker 2: the thinking behind it. Why not just have Bryce Harper
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  Speaker 2: hit every and you know, let him hit. If he
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  Speaker 2: hits a double, then there's a designated runner that goes
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  Speaker 2: out and takes a spot and he goes right back
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  Speaker 2: up and hits again. Just just have him hit every
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  Speaker 2: app out of the game then exactly. I mean, why
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  Speaker 2: have a team, why why have a team at all?
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  Speaker 1: Pay him five billion dollars he's the team?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, hell, these guys are making, you know,
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  Speaker 2: as much money as like Sodo is about to make
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  Speaker 2: an Otani nakes. Why not have him just be the
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  Speaker 2: whole team? You know, I don't know, It's silly to me,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not here. I don't want to dump on
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  Speaker 2: everything that that Manfred has done because you mentioned some
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  Speaker 2: things that are genuinely Like the pitchcock is great. The
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  Speaker 2: shift thing, I was a little unsure about it, but
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  Speaker 2: you know, hey, it opened up offenses that the thing
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  Speaker 2: with the larger basis has opened up stealing again, which
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  Speaker 2: is exciting. There have been some legitimately good changes, but
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  Speaker 2: I feel like this is gimmicky. Those are more natural within,
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  Speaker 2: you know, getting getting baseball back to what it was
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  Speaker 2: and more of a flow of the game type thing.
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  Speaker 2: This is more gimmicky, like you were saying, like the
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  Speaker 2: ghost runner thing that that is a complete gimmick gap.
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  Speaker 2: You're not letting the players that are on the rosters.
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  Speaker 2: You're you're not letting them play the game in order
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  Speaker 2: to get on base. You're not letting them play the
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  Speaker 2: game in order to listen. Hey, look, there have been
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  Speaker 2: plenty of times or I looked at the batters that
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  Speaker 2: were coming up for the Phillies and going, oh, smells
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  Speaker 2: like no hits to me. But you know, that's just
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  Speaker 2: the way the batting order goes sometimes, and that's that's
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  Speaker 2: the game. I mean. Otherwise, again, why even have a team?
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  Speaker 2: Why not just have a designated guy that just does
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  Speaker 2: everything right? So I mean, well, why not just you know,
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  Speaker 2: while we're out of you know, just let's let's put
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  Speaker 2: let's put like spots out in the in the seats,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you know behind the fence that say two
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  Speaker 2: x and every time you hit a home run it
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  Speaker 2: lands in that spot. If you hit a three run homer,
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  Speaker 2: it counts for sick runs. It doubles the runs. Like,
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  Speaker 2: let's just do that now, Like and I hope Rob
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  Speaker 2: Manford isn't listening to this because that they'll be like,
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  Speaker 2: oh cool again any ideas, But yeah, like I I
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  Speaker 2: just feel like that's where where some of these things
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  Speaker 2: he's doing are headed. And Yeah, I when I when
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  Speaker 2: I found out about I was like, that is that's
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  Speaker 2: just really stupid?
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  Speaker 1: It really is. Well, like I said, I kind of
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  Speaker 1: thought this was like an onion piece or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: But then Jason still Or was writing about it. And
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  Speaker 1: as Jason Stark is writing about this and I'm reading it,
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  Speaker 1: Manfred talks about this and it sounds a whole lot
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  Speaker 1: like more like he's talking about it seriously behind the scenes,
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  Speaker 1: And I'm thinking to myself, what the hell are these
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  Speaker 1: baseball owners and even general managers, Like, why are they
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  Speaker 1: not putting the kai bosh to this and saying no,
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  Speaker 1: this is fucking dumb. This is absolutely insane.
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  Speaker 2: That are doing this. How about you if you weed
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  Speaker 2: out the owners that clearly don't give a shit, right
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  Speaker 2: and they're going to just make a buck, yes, Or
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  Speaker 2: you have situations where I don't know your your team
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  Speaker 2: can't play in its home stadium because the roof got
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  Speaker 2: ripped off in a hurricane. Why don't you figure that
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  Speaker 2: stuff out and get rid of the John Fishers of
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  Speaker 2: the world of baseball ownership. Why don't you do that
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  Speaker 2: stuff instead of worrying about dumb shit like this.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, Well, I mean, i'd love to hear from
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  Speaker 1: some folks out there what they think about this philadelph
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: Sports Table at gmail dot com. Shoot us off an email.
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  Speaker 1: We'd love to read it here on the show and
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  Speaker 1: respond to it. But another another thing that's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: happening this, you know, I mean, they there was a
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  Speaker 1: memo that was actually sent out earlier this year to
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  Speaker 1: all thirty teams to really kind of shed some light
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  Speaker 1: on where they want to take umpire calls in the
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  Speaker 1: game of baseball. So beginning this coming season, I think, uh,
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  Speaker 1: this coming season in Triple A, and I believe that
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  Speaker 1: it's even gonna be happening in Actually, I should actually
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  Speaker 1: say it's going to be happening in spring training. With
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  Speaker 1: the majority of facilities, We're actually going to have robo
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  Speaker 1: umpiring every now and again, Len, And it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: h It's gonna be something where there're gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: certain amount of challenges. And I think this is something
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  Speaker 1: that's interesting because you're taking something that it's it's legitimate
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  Speaker 1: baseball discourse that why do we have umpires when we
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  Speaker 1: can just have a robot doing this and and and
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  Speaker 1: you know, a gun or whatever it is laser technology
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  Speaker 1: showing us what balls and strikes are because there there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of times that games are determined by officiating
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  Speaker 1: and by umpiring, and Major League Baseball is going to
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  Speaker 1: be testing this out during spring training to see, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if these robo ump ump calls are you know, going
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  Speaker 1: to be effective with regard to the game of baseball.
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  Speaker 1: This I can see a little bit more certainly than
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  Speaker 1: the Golden at bat. But you know what, what are
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts on where robot umpiring may start going because
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  Speaker 1: of where or I should say, what we're actually going
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  Speaker 1: to be seeing, you know, in spring training this year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I I I part there's a part in this, like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I don't want to see you know, robots,
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  Speaker 3: you know, in general across you know, the the American workforce.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to see the American worker you know,
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  Speaker 2: out of jobs due to due to robots, you know.
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  Speaker 2: But in this case, I think, you know, there's a
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  Speaker 2: reason that there is a hashtag ump show you know,
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  Speaker 2: because these guys are have gotten way too big for
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  Speaker 2: the bridges. A lot of them think that we're all
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  Speaker 2: here to see them, and we're not. So I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to see them get knocked down a peg. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Now there's in addition to the the automatic amps, there
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  Speaker 2: is the challenge system, which I think we should also
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  Speaker 2: talk about. Yeah, but yeah, I don't know. I would
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  Speaker 2: like to go the challenge route first, see how that works,
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  Speaker 2: and because I think it can be used almost as
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  Speaker 2: a told you so or a punishment towards some of
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  Speaker 2: these umps, and and you know, really, you know, just
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  Speaker 2: you know, keep stats on, Okay, how many challenges for
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  Speaker 2: this ump were called and how many of them you know,
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  Speaker 2: were you know, man that that challenge is legitimate because
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  Speaker 2: this un blew that call. I'd like to see stats
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  Speaker 2: kept on that because I'd like to see you just
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  Speaker 2: you know. What the reward is for the amps. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they get to work the World Series and that's a
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  Speaker 2: big prestige thing, and they work in the playoffs and
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  Speaker 2: they make more money that way. But by and large,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like there's any kind of repercussions for
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  Speaker 2: umps that are bad. There's no accountability it took how
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  Speaker 2: long to get you know what's his name? That they're
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  Speaker 2: really horrible and Angel Hernandez out of the Yeah, and
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: there's still some bad ones in there, so you know
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  Speaker 2: what kind of repercussions are there for these guys. I
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  Speaker 2: would like to see this go. Let's go down this
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  Speaker 2: challenge thing first, see if we can maybe maybe improve
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  Speaker 2: the umps that way, you know, give them a chance
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  Speaker 2: to see you're wrong here, you're wrong here, you're wrong here,
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  Speaker 2: and then maybe that'll help them become better umpires. Go
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  Speaker 2: that route first, and then if it's not working, then go, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we gave you guys a chance. We're going robot umpires.
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  Speaker 2: Now screw you guys exactly. You know, best of luck
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  Speaker 2: in your future endeavors. So my only concern with the
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  Speaker 2: challenge is, and I from the article I read, is basically,
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  Speaker 2: you know maybe two or three challenges per game, and
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  Speaker 2: if you if you challenge the strike call and you
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  Speaker 2: were correct, then you get to keep that challenge. So
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  Speaker 2: you as long as you keep winning these challenges, you
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  Speaker 2: could have an indefinite number of challenges. Theoretically. My only
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  Speaker 2: concern about that is then that eats into the whole
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  Speaker 2: pace of play thing that we were fixing with the
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  Speaker 2: pitch clock. Yes, so you know that you're going to
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  Speaker 2: have to find a way to go. Yes, you keep
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  Speaker 2: winning these challenges, but you can't. You can't challenge every
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  Speaker 2: pitch here there needs they're gonna have to. Yeah, they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna have to figure that out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, because like you can't. Could you imagine like
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  Speaker 1: every every third inning or something like that. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there's our every I mean every inning, you know, every
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  Speaker 1: maybe like every other batter you're challenging. You know, you're
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  Speaker 1: the pictures I challenge.
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  Speaker 2: I think of those Yankees Red Sox playoff games from
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  Speaker 2: like the early part of the two thousands. Every game
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  Speaker 2: turned into a five or six hour affair because they
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: were microman and and and that's what I'm afraid it's
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: going to turn into one of those type things. So
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  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, I want to avoid that at all costs.
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  Speaker 2: So they're they're gonna have to figure some stuff out there.
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  Speaker 2: So I would go to the challenger out first, and
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  Speaker 2: then hey, if these guys aren't getting better, then sorry
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  Speaker 2: you're out. Because we see it all the time. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you watch a game and they've they've got that box now,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: you know, on the on the TV screen and it's
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  Speaker 2: just like that picture was clearly outside like how is
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  Speaker 2: he calling? This is strike? So you know, it would
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: be nice to as a fan be able to go
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: that that was a bullshit call and then okay, then
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: they challenge it and then okay, good, I'm I'm not insane.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: That wasn't fact ball, you know that kind of thing.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. Uh, let's try the challenge
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: first and then maybe, you know, if you gotta hold
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: I think officials and umpires just in every sport need
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: to be held more accountable. And I know, you know,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: you can only maybe slap these umpires on the risks,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: and we don't even know if they get slapped on
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: the risks. Actually, you know, if the majority of the time,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: it'd be nice to know that. I do understand from
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: a pr standpoint, why these organizations and sports leagues don't
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: necessarily make that public if it if it happens at all,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: because like the public could just completely just turn on
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: officiating to the point where it would be worse than
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: it actually is now. I think, however, there needs to
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: be some sort of accountability. There just has to be
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: some sort of accountability as athletes get better at their sports.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: And in any you know, boss employee relationship. You know,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: let's say you have an employee that's performing poorly. You
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: know you have you know you want. If you're gonna
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: get rid of them, you have to be careful about
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: it because you don't want them coming back saying I
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: was fired onjustly. So a lot of times what a
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: boss will do is, Okay, I'm going to create a
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: paper trail. I'm going to create a document thing where
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: I can go into any kind of grievance and just
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: say this, this, this, this, this, then this happened after
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: we talk to them, and the continue to happen. That's
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: why they're getting free out. So and I think that's
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: what this could be. Because you know, the the the
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: MLB umps, they have their own union, which obviously there's
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: gonna be huge grievances if you know, people start losing
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: jobs there and you can say, hey, look we put
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: in this challenge system. We we have documented proof now
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: that your guys are consistently wrong. And we tried to
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: work and and and make you work with you guys
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: and be better. You guys suck, So you're gonna go
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: and and then there could because you can, you can,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: you can argue, you know, about different things. But when
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: you've got that paper trail in front of you, when
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: you've got documented evidence in front of you, what are
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: you gonna say?
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Exactly exactly?
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: That's that's why I'd be looking to go go down
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: that route.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, it's gonna be interesting to follow these
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: these proposals, these things that have been floated. My god,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: the golden appat run. It can't happen, dude, it can't happen.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: It just can't.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it will.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well, we're gonna keep tabs on it
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: here at the PSD podcast show for sure. But uh,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: before we go to our first break, we wanted to
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: get into some Philadelphia Union talk, Lens, since we have
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: you on the show here, and uh gotta say, I
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: was not necessarily surprised that Jim Curtin was fired longest
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: you know, tenured, of course, you know union coach. He
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: just did a lot for the team, did a lot
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: for the organization. Folks. If you want to hear a
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: very detailed conversation about this, go back in the podcast
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: feed to our table talk show. This past week where
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: we got into some post mortem about this Union season,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: the two twenty four season. But len Philadelphia Union, they're
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: gonna be looking for a new coach and that means
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: a lot of different changes are gonna be coming to
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: this team. The one thing that we talked about on
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: the Table Talk pod was the fact that Aleandre Badoya
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Kai Wagner that their negotiations right now to potentially come
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: back to the team. It'd be great to have Kai
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Wagner back. Aleandre Bdoya, as much as people have loved
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: him over the years, having that dual role of being
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: in the front office and also playing on the field
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: too might not be the best in our buddy. Josh
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Schuster of Philadelphia soccernow dot com made some really good
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: points about that, quite frankly, and I really do agree
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: with Josh that maybe Bedoya just needs to stay in
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: the front office at this point, if that's gonna be
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: your job, if that's gonna be where you want to
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: contribute most to the organization moving forward, as they're obviously
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: going to be in this any quote rebuild type of
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: mode after this season. There's a lot of guys not
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: coming back on this roster. Uh I think that needs
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: to happen from from Bedoya standpoint, sign Wagner. But there's
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of changes coming to this team. Line.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, with the Badoya thing, I mean that just
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: screams conflict of interest. I mean having somebody, you know,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: be I don't know what kind of role he's supposed
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: to have in the front office, if it's like, you know,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: consultant to the GM or to the you know, the
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: sporting director or whatever, you know, I don't know, but
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: that just like to me, I would feel like, you know,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: if I was a player, you know, he'd be watching
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: me and as a member of the front office. Now
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: he's you know, yeah, I'm a.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Front office specialist. I think like player development in front
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: office specialist.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: That to me, you can't be in both roles. That
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: to me is a recipe for disaster, for mistrust, uh honestly,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: you know, and and just insecurity among the players. I
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: just I don't like to thought of that all.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not a big fan of that either. But
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I have no idea what team is going to be,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: or I should say, what coach is going to be
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: coming to this team. It's gonna be bizarre. Watching this team,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: you know, whether we're gonna be watching on Apple TV plus,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: where I've really enjoyed watching this team. I like what
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Apple TV is actually done with their Major League soccer programming.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: But we're gonna We're gonna see some different stuff from
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: this team. And will the talent on this team be
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: able to reflect whatever the new coach wants them to
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: do on the field. I mean, and that's that's really
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: going to be that big off season issue that glare.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Are they going to be able to do what this
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: new coach and whoever that is going to be, what
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: type of position that coach wants to put them in
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: on the field, if the talent's gonna be there to
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: actually do that. So Jim Curtin probably gonna get swooped
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: up by somebody sooner rather than later. But I don't know.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Twenty twenty five could be a rough go with this
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Union team teams Land. I think it could be rough
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: next year.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I love nothing more than to see Curtin hook on
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: somewhere else as as as a coach and and just
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: consistently win. Yes, I would, because I think it's something
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: that and maybe they don't care, which is certainly a possibility.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Maybe you know, Sugarman and Ernst Tanner, the sporting director.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: You know, maybe maybe they just won't care one way
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: or the other, but it would be really nice for
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: them to see, here's how the talented coach that you
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: had when working with, you know, actual talent, here's how
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: he performs. And because they don't put into this team,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: they don't put enough into this team, right, and that's
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: the problem. And I'll be interested to see what kind
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: of coach they get because to me, you know, I
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: guess if you're I guess if you're a coach that's
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: coming up. I mean, any MLS job would be oh man,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm the manager of an MLS club. You know,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: there's a certain something to that. But you know, if
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: you're an experience manager that's been our coach or whatever
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: the term is, that's been around for a while, you
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: know when you're walking into a bad spot, whereas maybe
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: a younger guy is just too excited about the opportunity.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: So I think they're going to get a young guy
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: for that reason, because I think anybody that's had some
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: time in the game that understands what's happening with the
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: with the organization, I think they're going to look at
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: that and go, hmm, I don't know if I want
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: to go to Philadelphia.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: I think they're gonna have a hard time finding an
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: experience manager for that reason, because I just I don't
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: think it's an attractive situation.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's going to be interesting for sure. Well, folks,
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• 27:20
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• 27:22
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• 27:24
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• 27:31
  Speaker 1: gotta get into this Philadelphia Flyers team. Wanted to talk
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: to you about, you know, how this team has really
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: been performing. Seems like they may be getting back perhaps
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: to their twenty twenty three twenty twenty four form. I mean,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: it was a rough start to the season, but I
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: gotta say it appears that, you know, some of the
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: goaltending issues that have haunted this organization for the past,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: you know, thirty thirty five years, you know, maybe maybe
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: a thing of the past. Here, sim Erson having a
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: pretty good season, Ivan Fanotov having a pretty good season
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: thus far, and this team is really coming together in
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: a lot of ways. I think a lot of the
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: lines are really just starting to solidify themselves. And I
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: think John Tortorella, of course, is going to continue to
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: tinker here and there, you know, around the edges. But
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I think overall, this Flyer season has been again getting
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: fun to watch as the as the quote rebuild, and
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: when I say rebuild on this platform, folks, I know
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: that this organization didn't do too much during this offseason.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I know that they didn't bring in much talent, but
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: what we want to see is growth from certain players.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, you have got a player like Travis Sandheim,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: who's having an incredible, incredible career. Two years ago, we
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: thought he was out the door. John Tortorella probably thought
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: he was out the door. Tortorella didn't want to have
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: anything basically do with him two years ago. Now, all
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, Travis Sandheim is having a career year
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: and is really one of the leaders on this team. Len,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: we're seeing the growth and development of certain guys still
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: after a certain period, after a long period of time
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: of following a lot of these guys. Met Ve Mitchkov
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: has been fun and electric to watch as well. Again,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I think we're starting to see this fun Flyer season
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: here and starting to see certain guys develop and where
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: they may be put perhaps in the future.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there's definitely some interesting stuff going on with
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: the team. I feel like just in general in terms
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: of like just maybe just their name throughout the league,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: I think maybe there's a little bit more respect. I
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: know that there's the Four Nations tournament that's coming up
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: between you know, Canada, the US, oh yes, and Finland.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: There was there's two guys from on the on the
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Canadian team from the Flyers, both the Travises Ye Connectney
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: and Sandheim, and I wasn't surprised to see Connectney, but
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: I was very pleasantly surprised to see Sandheim on that team.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: And then you have a restera line and is on Finland.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean it's good to like, I don't know,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: it just felt like for a couple of years like
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: they were just a complete afterthought, like none of those
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: guys would be on any of those teams. And you know,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: you look at the year that connect Me's havn't He's
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: over a point per game player. He's got thirty points
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: in twenty five games. He's I think fifteenth in the
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: league in scoring. Right now, are tied for fifteenth in
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: the league in scoring. You know, you've got mitchkov has
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: got nineteen points in twenty three games, so he's almost
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: a point per game player. So you're you're seeing some
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: you know, high, you know, high level scoring going on.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Katurier has looked really good since he's kind of come
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: back from that injury that he had last healthy. Yeah, yeah,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: it's it's been noticeable. He had a nice overtime winner
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: against Nashville, so yeah, I mean it's fun and you know,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: you can tell especially mitchkoff Man. He loves that at
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: three on three overtime situation, all that open ice he
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: gets to work with, and I mean he's scored a
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: couple overtime you know, game winning goals. So yeah, it's
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: been it's been fun to watch so far. They're right now,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: they're in a good position. It makes me curious for
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: you know, I've heard a number of things of like,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: you know, guys that might be dangled at the trade deadline,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: the Scott Lawton's and wrist the lines of the world. Yes,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: is that something that they're going to do if they're
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: legitimately in in playoff contention, which as it stands right now,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: they're they're the the second wildcard team, I believe. So yeah,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: I mean that that's that's gonna be some decisions they
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: have to make. I still want to see some growth
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: from some of the younger guys. I like to see
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: a little bit more out of Forrester. I like to
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: see a little bit more out of Farrabee. Tip it's
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: been I think I think he's been decent, but you know,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: I kind of expected a little bit more out of
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: him so far. Brink is as pleasantly surprised me with
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: with kind of what he's been doing. But yeah, so
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of young guys that you'd like to
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: see maybe take a little bit more of a step
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: forward before I really feel good about Okay, we have
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: the young talented core that i'd hope we had, because
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: I still, you know, again, I still think that it
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: would behoove them to have a high pick in there,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: and I know that they've got a few first round
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: picks in this draft. I think they're just going to
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: have to hit on a couple of guys if they're
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: going to go down this route and make the playoffs.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: They're just going to have to hit on some guys
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: that other people miss in the first round, you know,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: in order to just keep that pipeline of young talent going.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Unless we start to see the Farabees and Forresters and
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Tippets of the world, Like, prove to me that you're
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: a you're a top six player, Like that's what I want.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: I want you to prove to me you're a top
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: six player. Otherwise, you know, I have to wonder about
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: the seal of this team in the future. So we'll
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: see what they do.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Right, One thing, I wanted to mention really quick before
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: before we move on here, but with regard to this
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Flyers team and with regard to mattfe Mitchkov. Okay, if
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: you remember well before that draft where he was drafted
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: by the Flyers, some pundits were writing that Mitchkov had
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: some character issues with his team at the time, SKA
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: and the KHL, even so much so some of his
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: teammates then actually had to come to his defense via
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: some interviews to debunk those rumors. And I just wanted
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: to throw out there because I haven't heard much of this.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: As you know, as Mitchkov is now here in the
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: US playing for the Flyers, and again, as I use
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: that word electric, he's been absolutely electric on the ice.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: It turns out that those rumors were exactly that they
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: were rumors. I mean, this guy has been a team player,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: and I think it really sucks every now and then
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: when pundits analysts they get some sort of quote story
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes, they bring things out, they talk about, oh,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: this guy could be a character problem. We see it
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: with the NFL draft.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Lend.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: You know, we hear about it in baseball every now
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: and again. You hear about it in every single sport
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: basketball too, and sometimes it just it's just crap and rumors.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: And I think we saw that with Matt Veab mitchkov here.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: You know, the character stuff that was talked about him
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: before he was drafted to the Flyers. It was all rumors.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: It was just all rumors and innuendo and people probably
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: trying to get clicks. This guy's been a really good
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: teammate thus far. I just wanted to throw that out
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: there because I don't think too too many folks are
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: talking about it at this point. He's been great. He's
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: been fantastic thus far, and a great teammate. And like
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: I said, I just wanted to throw that out there.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it seems like everybody on the on
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: the Flyers loves them. Yeah, I mean yeah, you know,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: so I don't really think there's much for an issue there. Honestly.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: I think that is more people from what in Russia
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: that wanted him to maybe maybe deflate his value because
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: they wanted him to be in Russia for as long
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: as humanly possible, and you know, I'm sure they didn't
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: want to see him leave after the one season with SKA,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: But you know, that's what happened. But I think maybe
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: that was like, Okay, if we can maybe deflate his
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: value a little bit, maybe he'll be over here a
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: little bit longer. Yeah, that was my thought on And
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: you know that talk starts there in Russia, and maybe
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: he gets picked up by a couple of people, you know,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: in the Western hemisphere, and you know, maybe that happens.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: But it wouldn't surprise me if all that talk started
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: in Russia.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: All right, well, good talk there about the Flyers. Let's
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: move on to some brief college football talk here, Lenn.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I don't really get to talk college football with Eric,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: but I'm just dude, I am so pumped for the
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: twelve team college football playoff bracket. I mean, as of now,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: as we're recording this here on Wednesday, December fourth, as
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: things are today, number one would be Oregon. Number two
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: would be Texas. Number three would be SMU, number four
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Boise State. And to kind of go down the list
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: how these matchups would would take place, Tennessee would face
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Ohio State, Arizona State would face Penn State, Alabama would
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: face Notre Dame, Indiana would face Georgia in that first round.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of good games there in those four games,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of good games.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: And I will say, you know, we went to Penn State,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Penn State play in Arizona State. Of course I would
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: take Penn State, but boy, Penn State against Boise State
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: would be one hell of a game. It really would be. Listen.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I gotta say this. I'd mean people may be listening
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: to this after Saturday, after the Big Ten National Championship. No,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think Penn State is gonna win the game.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: I think They're gonna give it a good fight. It's
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: gonna be on a neutral field in Indianapolis, I believe,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: and I think Oregon's gonna end up winning. But Lynn,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I cannot wait to see some of these teams play
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: each other because this is good. This is going to
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: be really good, compelling and entertaining college football when you
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: look at these brackets right now, where we're at here
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: in December, even if they change a little bit, because
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: you've got a couple of teams that are on the
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: bubble with Miami and Ole Miss, they're on the bubble,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: they could potentially make it here. Things have to work
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: out for them with other teams winning and losing. So
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I'm really pumped for this at this point.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's definitely interesting. I wanted to ask you
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: something I wanted to get into about this, is, you know,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: talking about scenarios and things like that, is you know, yeah,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Penn State is playing Oregon in the Big Ten Championship game.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: We do expect Oregon to win that game. If they do,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: how far do you think that drops Penn State in
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: the in the rankings? Because currently their fifth, how far
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: do you think that drops they're seeding if at all?
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: I would think, See, it's it's interesting. Excuse me. It's
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: interesting because of Penn State beating whom I think, Oh
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: my gosh, who DoD they recently beat? Or no, Ohio
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: State beat Penn State, right, so if they are if
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: the rankings go, it's I mean, I would say they
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: would probably fall to like eighth somewhere around there.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: I would think, Okay, so you think they could fall
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: the way to eight?
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I think they could. I think that I could either
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: seventh or eighth I think is where they could actually fall.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I yeah, I think they I think they could actually
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: so if they do, but if they beat Oregon, I
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: mean they're probably looking at number three.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, It's funny because you know, where I
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: work and live, like, you know, Penn State is the
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: home team, whether you went to that to that school
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: or not. You know, you know, there's yeah, professionally, you know, yeah,
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: I mean there's Philly fans, and there's Pittsburgh fans, and
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: there's Baltimore fans here in central Pennsylvania. But you know,
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Penn State is kind of like the overwhelming uniting thing.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Especially where I work. I hear people talk about all
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: the time. One of the guys that is, you know,
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: at my terminal. It doesn't work in my building, but
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: he played under Paterno, so he you know, he definitely,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: you know, is a huge Penn State fan. And I
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: was talking to him about it, and it almost sounded
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: like not that he wanted Oregon to win, but I
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: could hear it in his voice, like, man, I really
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: want to go to that that that home playoff game
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: because it's only the first round before it goes to
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: neutral sites. So like like I could hear in his
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: voice like, yeah, it'd be great if they won the
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Big Ten, but man, I want to go to that
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: first round game. Like so it's an interesting conundrum. So yeah,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it would be interesting. The other thing
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: that is interesting for me with regard to Penn State is,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: you know if they if they do host in the
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: first round, it's already snowing up there, it is, So
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: you know, how would it be if an Arizona State
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: or a Tennessee or an alle Bama. How would it
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: be if any of those teams had to come up
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: north and play in those conditions? Would that affect them
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: too much? Right? Right?
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Ah, that's that's like the great unknown. It really is
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: the great unknow. But I go back to go back
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: to your initial question though, Lehn, I actually do think
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: that Penn State would drop behind Notre Dame if they lose.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: They will just because if it wasn't Notre Dame, if
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: it was some school that wasn't like name brand or whatever. Right,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: you know, that's one thing. But because it's Notre Dame,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: I have a feeling that they're looking for a reason
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: to put to bump them up, and I think that
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: that would be Penn State losing, like oh great, we
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: can you know, bump Notre Dame up one more spot?
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Like I just I don't know. Maybe maybe that's just
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: me being haterish, but you know, it's just how I
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: feel like.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: You know, well, I think because I think because I
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: think Penn State would drop behind Notre Dame because of
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Penn State's lack of a I guess quote quality win
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: would not make up for their two laws. His Notre
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Dame's lost in Northern Illinois if you remember that, I
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: mean that was bad. But even they were Yeah, even
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: their win over Army I think is better than anything
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Penn State probably is done up to this point in
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: terms of a.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Big time win Illinois.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I don't know that's true, that that is true.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I mean I think they would go behind. Of course,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: they would go behind Ohio State because they lost to
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Ohio State. They probably dropped down.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: I think the number if they're both two loss teams
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: and they lost to Ohio State. I as much as
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: they hate Ohio State, I can find I can follow
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: the logic there at least, Yes.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Exactly, God, I would I hope Ohio State is at
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: good old, good old soy sauce hair and is I'm
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: really despising him.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: If if if they don't win their first round game,
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: I think he's gone.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, could you imagine inheriting that inheriting that
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: program from where it was, and he just hasn't been
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: able to beat Michigan. I was, I was genuinely rooting
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: for Michigan past I really want.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: True, did not completely hate them.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: That is true.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: That is true. Well, buddy, we definitely got to get
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: into some Eagles talk here too, so uh, you know,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: and I know it's running a little laid here and stuff,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: but okay, Eagles here. I cannot believe we are at
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: this point in time. Like I remember, you know, Eric
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: and I were going through a few weeks ago, we
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: were going through our season predictions and we were just like,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: you know, the Eagles, I mean, maybe they'll win a
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: playoff game, you know, maybe they'll get into the playoffs.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: We thought they were gonna win the division, but it's like,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe are they gonna go far in the playoffs?
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Holy cow? Did we think number one defense in the
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: league at this point? No, nobody did too. I don't
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: be talking to BLG about this too. We had concerns
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: about the linebacker position, We had concerns about the pass rush.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: I was really concerned about that. Since Week six, they're
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: number one in the league and just about every category
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: on defense. At this point, they're the number one defense
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: in the league. Not in a million years did I
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: think Vic Fangio would be able to do this with
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: this roster. Sure, the roster is very, very talented, but dude,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I did not think it was going to get to
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: this point. I feel like the rug is going to
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: get pulled out from under us, kind of like it
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: did last year. I don't think they're gonna collapse by
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: any stretch of the imagination, because it is a completely
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: different feel, right, It's a different feel, It's a different vibe.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: This team is geling. You can see it when they
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: go down to Baltimore and handily beat them. Of course,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: they didn't look good in the first quarter. They never
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: look good in the first quarter, But you want to
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: talk about a team that bounces back after three quarters, Like,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: holy freaking cow, I'm amazed at where this team is
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: at right now. I love it.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: I win it was And it's funny because I was
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: thinking back to like, you know, okay, we did our
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: show at the beginning of the season. I was like, ah,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: I think they'll win the division, and then they get
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: they start the season two and two, and you're just like, right,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they're that good. I remember we
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: had conversations at one point, you know, in our text
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: group of like, man, I think you got to get
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: rid of Sirianni asap and things like that. And now
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: they're ten and two, Like it's it's completely wild. I
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: will say that I have a feeling this week that
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: you know, I think they're gonna beat Carolina. But I
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: have a feeling it's gonna be one of those you
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: know how every now and again we had one of
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: those post game shows where yes they won, but it
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: doesn't feel like a win, right, Yeah, Because I just
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I have a feeling they're gonna this week,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: they're gonna go, ah, it's just Carolina. Yeah, and they're
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: just gonna let them hang around too long. I don't
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: know why, but you know, and hopefully I'm wrong, Hopefully
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: they just come out and handle business.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: But Caroline. Carolina has been playing decent football over the
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: past couple of weeks and almost beat the freaking Kansas
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: City Chiefs.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they have been. Yeah, but I mean, I
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: just I don't know. I just have a feeling that
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: that's gonna that's gonna be the case. Like we're gonna
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be like a win. That doesn't feel like
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: a win, but you know, but yeah, I mean listen
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: that that game against Baltimore, Like I said, statement win,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: that's I mean, they're impressive. I don't know how you
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: can't have them in the you know, if you're picking
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: out four teams that could win the Super Bowl, I
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: don't know how you don't have them as one of them.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Right now, They're an absolute Super Bowl contender. They are.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: They are, especially because of the defense. How many years
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: we've been talking about the fact, no matter what you
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: do during the regular season, especially on offense, it's been
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: a passing league. But we see how important running backs
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: have now been over the past two years. Even though
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: it is a passing league in general, when you look
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: at what defenses are able to do during the playoffs,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: that's inevitably where you win games in playoff games, I
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: should say, And the Eagles are right at the top.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: They are the cream of the crop in terms of defenses.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: And it's consistent week after week. I mean, there's no
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: drop off here, and like you said, there may be
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: a few hiccups here and there. Against Carolina pant they
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: still got to play the Steelers, who are a pretty
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: good team. There may be a couple hiccups there as well,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: but the schedule is extremely favorable. They play some real
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: crappy teams down the stretch here where Saquon Barkley should
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: be eating as he has been, and I man, getting
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: a first round by thin could I.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Think it happly? Really nice? I mean they could absolutely
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: use that. Yeah, I agree, I really. I mean it's
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: hard for me to see anybody outside of Detroit and
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Philadelphia representing the NFC in the Super Bowl, right yeah,
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. Maybe a team catches fire
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: at the end. I don't know, but you know, right now,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: those two look like, hands down, the two most complete
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: teams in the NFC.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely, well, buddy, I'm gonna let you go here.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: You got any final thoughts before we go to break
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: and before we get to work. Thrown down on the table,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I do not, all right, my man? Well your eyes
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: are feeling better here, I hope your eyes are feeling better.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Everything's good. I'm not lay sensitive at all. I have
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: a slight, you know, like a slight headache every now
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: and again above the one eye, but it's not even
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: anything I've been taking tilent all for It's that, you know,
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: that minute of an issue that I really haven't felt
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: the need to take anything for it. So yeah, it's
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: been it's been good. All right. I go back to
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: you know, in I think in February just to follow
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: up and make sure everything looks good and then we
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: go from there.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: So keeping those beady eyes around that's most important, buddy.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, keeping people out.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Yes, all right, folks are gonna take a break when
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: we get back. We got a lot more Eagles talk
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: with our good friend Brandon Lee GOUTENBLG from Bleeding Great
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Nation dot com. Stick with us, all right, we are back.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Let's get to what we are thrown down on the
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: table this week. Lots of Eagles talk. Let's get to
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: it and now on the table joining us this week
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: to get into this Philadelphia Eagles team and some great
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: things that they are doing. We have from Bleedinggreen Nation
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: dot com. You can catch him on the Twitter slash
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  Speaker 1: x at Brandon gouton We've got the one and only
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Brandon lygaut and BLG. How you doing, buddy, Jef?
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: Glad to be here always helps when the Eagles are
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: doing well, they're actually exciting to talk about.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: So here we go.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Buddy, you have been one of our longtime guests where
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: for well over eleven years, and first and foremost thank
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: you for that. But secondly, I gotta say, this Eagles
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: team is doing something that we haven't seen in quite
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: some time, even the Super Bowl year. The challenges that
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: they had during that twenty seventeen year with so many injuries,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: we were not necessarily seeing the same type of team
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: that we saw back then that ended up winning the
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So like I have high hopes in terms
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: of expectations, we're gonna be getting into that. But I'm
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: feeling good about where this team is at right now.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: Hard not to when they're winning eight games in a row.
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: Their defense is giving up ten point nine offensive points
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: per game excluding three garbage time touchdowns over the past
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: three weeks. Like obvious, clear garbage time touchdowns. It's just incredible.
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: Is the best defense in the NFL.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: The running game is amazing to say, Coon Barkley, it's
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: just such a joy to.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Watch exactly look performing at such a high level as
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: we're heading into this latter part of the regular season,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: especially on defense, as you just mentioned BLG, so I
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: really wanted to start off the discussion with regard to
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: what Vic Fangio has done from a more macro perspective.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, there were a lot of unknowns, a lot
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: of changes on defense that we were all concerned about
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: coming into this season, the linebackers, the pass rush, I mean,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: two rookie cornerbacks and how and if they were going
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: to produce at all. But now that the number one
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: defense in the league, as you mentioned, and I believe
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: they're the least penalized defense in the league two at
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: this point, if I'm not mistaken. So I guess to
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: get this discussion started, First, should we actually be giving
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: even more praise to than what he's getting at this point?
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: And second, you know, what do you think overall has
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: led to the rise in this defense? Really just being
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: so dominant.
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's clearly a situation where he deserves
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: the credit as opposed to Oh, it's just like star
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: players making these big plays and they're not really disciplined. No,
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: they're extremely disciplined. They tackle well, they play smart, the
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: way they pass off, you know, coverages to each other.
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: You can just see on a weekly basis, like they're
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: they're operating at such a high level, so cohesive, and
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: that matches with the talent. Obviously, you have to have
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: the talent there. You don't have the number one defense
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: without that. You can't just have you know, a bunch
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: of below average players. But it's everything kind of just
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: coming together. And I also think, you know, more than
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: just like implementing a scheme. It seems like on a
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: week to week basis, the Eagles are just like ready
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: for the opponent who they're playing, and Vic Fangio is
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: drawing up you know, really good game plans for this
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: defense to execute. It's not just like, hey, this defense
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: does what it does regardless of the opponent. It's like, no,
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: actually like tailoring it to the team they're facing, which
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: is what ideally you would you would want conceptually, you know.
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: And it's it's also it's all coming together at a
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: high level, and you just see like the players who
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: have been playing well, like Zach Bond, like for example, credible,
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: I mean for him to go from what he was
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: as this back up kind of player too. Again, I
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: don't think it's hyperbolic to say all pro like we're
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: talking above Pro Bowl here, we're talking about all pro
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: kind of player, maybe like the best linebacker in the
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: NFL this season, like that kind of level. You know,
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: Like obviously you give Zach Brawn some credit in there
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: as well, but like I don't think that happens without
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: Vic Fangio. So it's really just kind of amazing how
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: all this has come together.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: It really is, because you know, there were a lot
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: of questions about Fangio coming into coming from Miami. You know,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: I guess a lot of those Miami players are a
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: little soft down there. I guess we could take that
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: away from you know what, what Vic Fangio had to
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: deal with perhaps in Miami. But you know, even even
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: after the start of the season, BLG, I was concerned
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: about how effective the pass rush was actually going to be.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: It's something I mentioned a number of times on this
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: podcast platform. And they're currently ranked eighth in terms of sacks,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: and while they're not like completely dominating in terms of
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: sacks maybe like the branc like the Broncos are, And yes,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: I know since Week six they are first in sacks
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: in the NFL with thirty. I mean, Jalen Carter is
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: a big reason why this pass rush is seeing success,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: why the defense is seeing success as well. But aside
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: from him, what else have you been seeing from the
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: pass rush perspective as of late, which is really creating
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: some havoc for some opposing offenses.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, on the Fangio note real quick about the Miami thing,
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: I do wonder like how much the Eagles were cognizant
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: of that and have kind of tried to set up
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: a structure where the kind of safeguard against some of that. Probably,
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: you know, some of it, like you said, is the
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: Dolphins players maybe not being the most conducive to success
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: and winning. But part of it, I think also is
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: the Eagles were you know, cognizant of that. And I
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: think you have kind of like the good cop maybe
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: the position coach Christian Parker bad cop defensive coordinator of
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: Vic Fangeo more old school minded, So I think that's
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: kind of interesting. But to the point of the pass rush,
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: like I think part of I mean, John Carter, as
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: you mentioned, is making life easier on everyone with how
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: much he gets double teamed and held and held. But
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: also I think just the way the coverage has married
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: together with the pass rush, like just the way that
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: they're the Eagles coverage unit is giving time for the
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: pass rushers to get to the quarterback there, so, you know,
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: I think and part of that's just them being amazing players,
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: whether it's Quinn Mitchell or Cooper to Gene or whoever.
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: The part of it, I think again is the scheme
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: kind of helping the pass rush kind of just again
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: everyone being so sound, giving those edge rushers and the
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: interior defensive lineman as well chances to get to the quarterback.
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: So it's not really just working together in sync and
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: obviously to your players like elevating their game. Milton Williams
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: is taking advantage of those one on one opportunities getting
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: because John Carter is double team. Nolan Smith is really
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: progressing from where he was as a rookie. So Josh
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: Sweat obviously tailed off in a big time way last season,
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: but legals have been purposefully kind of like keeping his
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: snapcount down so he can be a more effective player
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: than he was. So you know, part of it is
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: is just really there's a lot of reasons going into
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: why this pass rush is working.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, and you know, there's one position group that I
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: really wanted to dive into next in terms of this defense,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: and it's the safeties who I think, I don't know,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: maybe if they're not getting a lot of credit this
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: year because we don't hear too too much about specifically
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Read Blank and Ship, CJ. Gardner Johnson, maybe even the
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: backups who are making some pretty good plays, you know,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: week in and week out. But you know, we certainly
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: know that, you know, the two rookies cornerbacks are doing
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: a phenomenal job. But in terms of the safeties themselves,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: with Reid Blank and Ship, CJ. Gardner Johnson, I mean
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: CJ has been on this team before, and we know
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: what type of talent he is in the NFL, But
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: what have you been seeing from the safety position BLG
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: where we can really start to give them some more
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: credit I think for maybe how this defense is performing.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been a big Read Blankenship fan. I thought,
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: you know, he obviously struggled a bit last year. I
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: thought people were getting a little too low on him
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: after some of those struggles, you know, when in reality,
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: the whole defense fell off basically last year, so I
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: think he has really stepped it up this season. For
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: the most part of me is the three interceptions and
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: they're not just like you know, cheapis too. These are
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: like really good plays that he's diving. Ticks almost look
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: similar all of them, and they were at crucial parts
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: in the game too. You think back to Week one
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: against the Packers, he seals that game. Week three against
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: the Saints, he seals that game basically kind of like
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: a real turning point and kind of sort of officially
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: closed the deal in the Commander's game. So, you know,
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: I think Read Blankenship has been excellent. And that's not
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: even just that's just the coverage. I mean as a
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: run defender as well. He also had a role in
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: that Commander's game and that fourth down stop on Jail
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: and Dayden Daniels. He just has I think a high
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: IQ player consistently what we've seen in practice over the years.
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: He just knows where to be, is often in position
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: to make the play and really seems like a good
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: fit in the Vic Fangio defense that way, when you
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: know communication and positioning all that's so key. So I
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: think Blankenship's having a pretty good year. Obviously, we'll see
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: where he's at coming off the concussion in this game.
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: Then CJGJ. I think it has kind of had an
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: uneven year. He had that really big fourth down stop
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: in Week two, which should have sealed the deal if
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: the offense delivered on their end of the bargain there
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: late in the game. Other than that, you know, he's
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: given up some big plays. We haven't really seen the
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: kind of ball production obviously that he had back in
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty two. But I mean in this Ravens game,
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: he was the one, obviously who took the defense aside
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: after those first two Ravens drives and was speaking to
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: the team and got them fired up. And even if
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: he's not necessarily playing his best game in terms of
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: assignment sound, he plays physical and certainly we see that,
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: and I think he's kind of coming on a little
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: bit here. So certainly I think both of those guys
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: are really vital to this team's success.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Well, you know, we all receive as you know,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: as you well know, we all received bizarre tweets every
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: now and again from folks out there on the internet.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: And I want to shift over to the offensive side
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: of things, and specifically with the quarterback position here because
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: I've received some tweets and responses from folks who don't
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: like the fact that Jalen Hurts is the Philadelphia Eagles
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: quarterback even though the Eagles are thirty five and nine
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: in Jalen Hurts' starts dating back to the start of
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two season. That is a I mentioned
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: it on our Opposition Territory podcast this past week. It
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: said seven to ninety five win percentage, it's the best
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: in the NFL during that time. So, I don't know,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: why do you think there are still those Eagles fans
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: out there BLG that don't believe that Jalen Hurts is
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: the guy who should be under center? Because I think
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: to myself as well, well who else do you want
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: under center? You know, who else could the Eagles have
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: gotten to be under center that's going to be producing
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: for this team better? As this team is ten and
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: two on the season here. So I don't know, why
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: do you think we're still seeing that every now and
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: again with certain sectors of this Eagles fan base as
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: it relates to Jalen Hurts.
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think part of it is kind
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: of what you touched on there, a little bit of
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: like who else would it? You have to have the
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: perspective the league wide perspective of what this looks like
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: and also the idea and if you're saying, if you
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: don't want it to be telling Hurts, you'd have to
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: propose realistic alternative, which is not so easy. I mean,
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: I get it from a standpoint. No, like, there are
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: still questions about this passing offense, no doubts about it. Yes,
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: And I think the way they are playing defense at
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: such a high level and the way they're able to
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: run the ball, let's say Quon Barkley, at such a
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: high level, they can win a Super Bowl with this formula.
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: But I mean there's more there's less margin for error
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: than there would be if you had the passing game clicking,
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: and how ideally it should be when you have all
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: the talent you have offensively and then just again from
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: what we've seen from Jalent Hurts ability as a passer before.
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: So you know, I think there are still some fair
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: questions and you have's an area for improvement and part
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: of its nickpicking, right, that's what you're going to do
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: when the team is this good. You're going to look
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: at the areas like, Okay, how could we get even better?
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: And what the potential pit falls could be down the stretch,
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: and I certainly think you could look at the passing
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: offense being an issue you at some point, but I
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: don't think it's disqualifying by any means. I think there
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: is something to Jaleen Hurt's being this like force of
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: personality and you know, setting the tone and you know,
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: just making winning plays as simple and as I say,
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: as that sounds like his ability to pick up the
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: football in this pile of bodies last week he did
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: against the Ravens where that snap kind of gets fumbled there,
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: like that shouldn't be taken for granted. Yeah, on the
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: way he's able to run through, you know, and and
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: and take you know, make take advantage of defenses with
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: his legs, Like it's it's easy to take some of
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: the things he does for granted. And I think like
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: this is part of what goes into It doesn't always
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: feel like the most impressive thing you're watching, as may
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: it is with Joe Burrow or whoever, like making these
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: kind of incredible passes, but it's just quietly contributing to winning.
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: And I think that ultimately is reflected in the record.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: You mentioned a phrase setting the tone, and I think
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: that's a really important part of what his game has been.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: I mentioned again I mentioned on our Opposition Territory podcast
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: this past week. He doesn't need to be that quarterback
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: that's going to throw for three hundred and fifty yards
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: three to touchdowns per game. That's that that's not with
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: this team right now at this particular point in time,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: needs from him because of Saequon Barkley, because of how
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: the defense is performing at such a high level. But
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: he is able to set the tone. And I think
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: while it's not the sexiest thing to say, it's not
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: the sexiest phrasing in the world, it is extremely important
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: to have a quarterback in this league that can set
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: the tone for an entire game. Even though the yes
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: first quarters rough in terms of getting points on the
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: board and sustaining drives. But if you can set the
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: tone for another three quarters, there's something to be said
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: for that.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: Absolutely. And you know, look, this could matter more if
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: the defense doesn't play as well, better stretch or Saquon
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: Barkley knock on wood gets hurt, you know somehow, playing
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: it like it's got that's that's when it would show
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: up or potentially could be a huge issue. Until then,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: you don't worry about that, but obviously, you know, you
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: look at the history, and that's why I think people
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: look at too, like you know, typically the passing offense
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: that those team teams are going to be the more
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: successful teams in the long run. But when you talk
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: about an exceptional kind of years and players, I mean,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: that's I think we're looking at that.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: This year.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: The defense is exceptional. Sakon Barkley is exceptional, and that
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: takes the pressure off Jillen Hurts absolutely.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Again, folks, we're talking to Brandon Lee Gouten at Brandon
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: Gouton on the Twitter slash x Bleeding Green Nation dot com.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: They got fantastic content all the time being put up
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: daily over there again at Bleedinggreen Nation dot com. We
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: mentioned Saquon Barkley here. We know what he can do.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: We know what aj Brown and DeVante Smith can do
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: as well. BLG. But I wanted to get into the
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: tight end position with you. It's one of those storylines
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: I think on the side here that nobody's really addressing
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: too too much, and I'm wondering, really how we should
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: be viewing Dallas Goddard and I'm not sure as of
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: us recording this year on Wednesday, December fourth, could potentially
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: be going on ir maybe he already is, and maybe
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: you can give it update on that. But you know,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: when he was out earlier this year, we basically saw
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: just about the same kind of productivity from Grant Calcata
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: that we saw from Goddard in various stats in terms
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: of the stat lines, and I wonder how much of
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: an important cug as much as I love him, Dallas
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Godder is within this offense moving forward here, what are
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: your thoughts on godd or what he's been able to
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: give to this offense and how this team may proceed
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: with him in the future.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: He did make some big catches in the Ravens game, specifically, yes,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: the touchdown a key first down at one point, so
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: he can contribute, but you know, hasn't quite been like
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: the volume target And then you know, I think some
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: of that hurts too. It's not just about god Her,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: but and part of it is also Dallastart is struggling
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: to stay on the field. It has been a big
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: issue for some time now, and you would have to think,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: given his age, given the contract and everything, those are
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: going to probably be looking doesn't mean they're going to
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: cut him this off season, but they're going to be
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: looking for a potential replacement and successor that that could
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: take over in the future. Certainly, Dallas Gotter is older
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: now than when the Eagles drafted him, when they still
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: had Zach Hurtz. So yeah, I think you know his
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: future situation. But I mean, and you know, we'll see
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: where he's at injury wise now, still on the roster.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: That could be a sign that Eagles maybe think he's
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: only going to miss three games at most, certainly like
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: he did earlier this year. But they still have until
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: Saturday at four pm. If they do want to put
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: him on IR and have this week and Week fourteen
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: count towards one of the four games he would have
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: to miss, and then that in that situation, he would
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: be eligible to return as soon as the Week eighteen finale.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: Maybe he just could keep him on ice to the
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: playoffs if you just want to play it safe there.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: We'll see how that goes. But yeah, I mean, Grant
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: cal Katara, as you mentioned, I think, did a really
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: nice job filling in for him. He's an explosive kind
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: of target when he look at his yards per reception.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: I think if you look at like the qualified tight ends,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: he doesn't rank among them, you know, because of a
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: small sample size. But he's like in top six, top
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: five in terms of yards per reception, so he can
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: offer you some of that. Obviously, not as good as
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: a blocker, that's where he struggles. Ye, but Eagles did
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: sign C. J. Uzoma to the roster from the practice squad,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: will be their second tight end. They might just roll
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: with two. They kind of did that when Goddard was
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: missing time earlier with just Calcatar and Jack Stole, so
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: they might just kind of roll with two for now.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: They have E. J.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: Jenkins on the practice squad. They can't use the elevations
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: on him because they've already run out of those, So
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: we'll see. But for now it's Cal, Katerra and Uzoma
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: for the next couple games.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: All right, well, BLG, before I let you go, just
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: one last topic really to get into, and that topic
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: is the expectations game. The expectations amongst this fan base
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: here because it's of course it should be rising week
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: after week. The expectation is now that the Eagles should
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: end up playing in the NFC Championship Game against the
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. It's what folks are talking about what we'd
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: love to see right here as we're heading into week fourteen.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: Is this a fair expectation for US fans to have?
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: And how do you think the Eagles really would stack
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: up against the Detroit Lions, who who are absolutely dominating
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: their opponents this year as well? What are your thoughts?
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think it should be because they're
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: formula for winning. Is legit, there's nothing fluky about this. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Like they're dominating opponents to go down to Baltimore and
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  Speaker 4: beat that team basically by two possessions before you know,
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  Speaker 4: the garbage time touchdown, Like teams don't do that. No
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: one goes to endto Baltimore and beats Lamar Jackson like that.
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  Speaker 4: Like what they're doing this year, what Saquan is doing,
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  Speaker 4: what some of the players are doing, what the team
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: is doing, it's special stuff. Yeah, and it can't just
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  Speaker 4: be taken for granted and not to be a doomer
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  Speaker 4: about next year, but like you're not gonna probably get
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  Speaker 4: some of that same kind of production just because of
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  Speaker 4: how special it is this year, Just like I was
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  Speaker 4: saying about the twenty twenty three goals back in twenty
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  Speaker 4: twenty two, how special the season that was. They're going
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  Speaker 4: to have some drop off. Doesn't mean to fall cliff entirely,
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  Speaker 4: but I mean they have to take advantage of this,
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  Speaker 4: and they have a real chance of getting the one seed.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously the Lions are in the more favorable position given
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: they only have one loss at the moment. But this
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: game on Thursday night against the Packers is going to
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  Speaker 4: be huge. Like if the Paickers are able to win
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  Speaker 4: that game, and assuming the Vikings that lose at least
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: one of their remaining games with decent chance, then he
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: goes control their destiny at that point for the number
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  Speaker 4: one seed. And like, you know, they can't say winning
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: these final all these final games is a lock, but
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  Speaker 4: like you just want to be favored, and all these
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: final g are yeah, and four of them are at home,
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  Speaker 4: So there's a real path to like winning out here
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: and getting that one seed, and that has to be
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  Speaker 4: the goal, especially like the bye I think is so
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  Speaker 4: especially valuable this year for a team that had their
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: regular season by Baction Week five has to break.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And then also just playing Jared Goff at the Link
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: is entirely different than playing him in Ford Field in Detroit.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: Yep.
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