Latest / The Occult Rejects / Tucker Carlson’s “Deals with Demons” Episode | Live Reaction w/ The Occult Rejects Part 2
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- 0:02Speaker 1: You see, something's going to happen.
- 0:06Speaker 2: What? What's going to happen?
- 0:15Speaker 1: What?
- 0:24Speaker 3: Just that's why we do our practice, and that's why
- 0:26Speaker 3: we have a sound mind, and that's why we use reason.
- 0:30Speaker 2: This is even another reason why I would even go
- 0:32Speaker 2: with its negative aspects in your brain again, in your mind, yeah,
- 0:35Speaker 2: you know that's a voice in your head that you
- 0:36Speaker 2: went with.
- 0:37Speaker 3: Yeah, And you shouldn't be listening to any of the
- 0:40Speaker 3: voices in your head, right because those are all made up.
- 0:44Speaker 3: Every voice, even the one you think you are, is
- 0:47Speaker 3: made up in an illusion. We are supposed to calm
- 0:51Speaker 3: our mind and you'll never be able to make it
- 0:53Speaker 3: go away. That is one of the new ag woo
- 0:55Speaker 3: woo yoga spiritual things. The thoughts never go away. You
- 1:00Speaker 3: just calm them, they quiet a bit, and then you
- 1:03Speaker 3: cut off a couchable minds, you know, because we're all
- 1:07Speaker 3: skit sell, as Grant Morrison put in the end of it,
- 1:09Speaker 3: like that's one of the things. We're all fucking posts
- 1:11Speaker 3: skitzo grocking around as we do things.
- 1:15Speaker 1: So the psychosis we have experiencing in this country, I
- 1:18Speaker 1: think connects to it. A lot of it ties into
- 1:21Speaker 1: alcohol and drugs. That's you know, lowering people's frequency. You
- 1:26Speaker 1: know it's one I agree of you know, a glass
- 1:28Speaker 1: or two. But as we know a lot of alcohol,
- 1:31Speaker 1: what does it do? It takes us out of our
- 1:33Speaker 1: right mind. In my experience of seeing people get possessed.
- 1:36Speaker 3: I'll goat hall right spirit. It's named at as for
- 1:39Speaker 3: a reason.
- 1:41Speaker 1: It's pretty much like seeing someone's you know, when someone's
- 1:44Speaker 1: out of blackout drunk and you've we've all seen it.
- 1:48Speaker 1: Someone's coked up or out of their mind with alcohol
- 1:52Speaker 1: and they behave radically irrationally, they get aggressive, they get mean,
- 1:56Speaker 1: or they start laughing hysterically, and the next day they
- 1:59Speaker 1: may it not remember anything. It's exactly possession is because
- 2:03Speaker 1: when you see someone get possessed, they just like it's
- 2:07Speaker 1: like a flip, a flip of a switch and they
- 2:11Speaker 1: go from someone you can see look in the eyes
- 2:14Speaker 1: and see what they are to just checked out. I've seen.
- 2:18Speaker 3: This is an interesting thought. This is something that I
- 2:20Speaker 3: was actually listening to. I think it was Douglas rush
- 2:22Speaker 3: Cough or Jason Louver. I don't remember. Both people. I
- 2:28Speaker 3: want to get on my show, and both people we
- 2:30Speaker 3: should get on the Rejects. But they were talking. They
- 2:32Speaker 3: were talking about something that's really important, and it could
- 2:33Speaker 3: have been somebody else. But the idea is that possession
- 2:35Speaker 3: hasn't always been a negative thing.
- 2:38Speaker 2: No, no, no, you know.
- 2:40Speaker 3: What I mean that, Like we used to be possessed
- 2:43Speaker 3: by Eros, right, by the divine madness that leads us
- 2:47Speaker 3: to Sophia, that leads us to wisdom.
- 2:50Speaker 2: I think I even covered that when we did Silent
- 2:52Speaker 2: in the Rainbow Serpent in the Rainbow. Oh nice, ye,
- 2:55Speaker 2: and I had covered that, like even in those traditions,
- 2:58Speaker 2: sometimes being possessed actually wasn't a bed thing. You were
- 3:01Speaker 2: actually letting like a divine thing kind of come into
- 3:03Speaker 2: some shit like that.
- 3:04Speaker 3: Or yeah, for sure, it's.
- 3:05Speaker 2: Almost like Detective I forgot exactly. But it wasn't always negative.
- 3:10Speaker 1: No, not at all.
- 3:10Speaker 3: Well, what do we think flow state is? You know,
- 3:14Speaker 3: when you're an athlete and you reach flow state, it's
- 3:16Speaker 3: almost like being possessed by what by Nike, which has
- 3:20Speaker 3: been inverted into being a shoe, but actually like the
- 3:23Speaker 3: like the goddess of Victory, or being possessed by Apollo
- 3:27Speaker 3: and the Sun, being possessed by Hermes as quick as lightning,
- 3:31Speaker 3: and so like when you were possessed by a god,
- 3:33Speaker 3: right like in the mind of what I brought up
- 3:36Speaker 3: the bicameral Mind by Julian James, is that you are
- 3:38Speaker 3: possessed by a higher intelligent force of energy, just like
- 3:44Speaker 3: an archetype, which is a psychical structure of a natural
- 3:50Speaker 3: force that we're that moves through the human nervous system,
- 3:53Speaker 3: the human the human being in the world, and then
- 3:56Speaker 3: we become embodied and we participate in a way that
- 3:58Speaker 3: is almost more than we are, right, And I think
- 4:01Speaker 3: that's really important. But it's not always a negative being
- 4:04Speaker 3: possessed by demons and anybody who locks himself into those things.
- 4:08Speaker 3: David Beth's actually talked about in a thing where he's
- 4:09Speaker 3: all like, and this is kind of a side note,
- 4:11Speaker 3: but it's the same thing in its own right. Is
- 4:14Speaker 3: that we always want to talk about how like, I'm
- 4:17Speaker 3: never worried about curses from little fucking school age TikTok
- 4:21Speaker 3: witches or anybody in in real the magical society like community,
- 4:26Speaker 3: because of there's no actual lineage and tradition. But what
- 4:29Speaker 3: you should be fucking worried about is Haitian voodoo practicetioneer
- 4:34Speaker 3: trying to curse you, because there's something coming from that
- 4:37Speaker 3: or bards, as Alan Moore talks about, it's one thing
- 4:40Speaker 3: that like a magician could curse your curse you, but
- 4:44Speaker 3: what about your family? What about your family's family? A
- 4:46Speaker 3: bard can weave a tale so strong that your legacy
- 4:50Speaker 3: is cursed for a lifetime. And so that's the difference
- 4:52Speaker 3: between these two iterations of will to power, Like you're
- 4:56Speaker 3: trying to use your willpower to like to put us
- 4:59Speaker 3: something onto a well. How like most of these individuals
- 5:03Speaker 3: out there in the magical occult esotery community don't practice
- 5:07Speaker 3: and training their will and you know that because they've
- 5:10Speaker 3: got fucking blue hair and don't know their gender. And
- 5:13Speaker 3: so it's such a fascinating thing where it's like, if
- 5:16Speaker 3: you don't have enough willpower to control yourself from the
- 5:18Speaker 3: fucking Tavistock fucking dialectic that's being pushed by the DARPA
- 5:24Speaker 3: and the military and industrial complex, and again, do as
- 5:28Speaker 3: you will. You know, that's the whole of the law.
- 5:30Speaker 3: So you can be whoever you want to be. If
- 5:32Speaker 3: you want to be a fucking dinosaur or you know,
- 5:36Speaker 3: whatever your pronouns are, I don't care. That's great, you
- 5:38Speaker 3: be you. But the idea is your will to power.
- 5:41Speaker 3: You don't have a willpower because you're giving up your
- 5:44Speaker 3: will to a movement that's going to move away eventually
- 5:49Speaker 3: when it's done with you.
- 5:51Speaker 2: The most specific you get about yourself, the more blindfolding
- 5:54Speaker 2: horse blenders you're putting on.
- 5:56Speaker 3: That's my yeah, yeah, that's yes, it's good. Uh, thank you, arrows.
- 6:03Speaker 3: I thought we were we're anti dinosaur. We are, which
- 6:05Speaker 3: is then why I related it to uh the the
- 6:10Speaker 3: what I related it to eros. As you know, we
- 6:13Speaker 3: are pro uh dragon, We're very pro dragon around here.
- 6:18Speaker 3: Dinosaurs are actually dragons. I mean, look at the t rex.
- 6:21Speaker 3: These little arms. No, no, he had big fucking wings. Okay,
- 6:24Speaker 3: these are wings. Okay, okay, we move on.
- 6:29Speaker 1: People screaming. I've seen people laughing maniacally. I've seen just
- 6:33Speaker 1: you know, just check out, like just staring blankly. But
- 6:38Speaker 1: you know it, you just you know that this person's
- 6:40Speaker 1: not in their right mind. Yes, And the key is
- 6:43Speaker 1: to try to bring light back, breathe, bring you know,
- 6:47Speaker 1: good energy back, raise the raise the frequency this so
- 6:49Speaker 1: they can come back to their their self theirselves. So
- 6:55Speaker 1: what I would.
- 6:56Speaker 3: Say, I will call a chicken a dinosaur, and ticks
- 6:59Speaker 3: dinosaur and all these things. So there may have been
- 7:02Speaker 3: certain kinds of dinosaurs, I hear you, but we need
- 7:05Speaker 3: to integrate. We need to integrate dragons.
- 7:07Speaker 1: Okay, okay, goody. This battle is between the darkness that
- 7:12Speaker 1: again feeds on that fear that lower vibrational you know,
- 7:16Speaker 1: psyche of like not being in our right mind, not
- 7:18Speaker 1: being in our in our higher selves, right, not being
- 7:21Speaker 1: connected to our spirit, our higher you know, to God
- 7:25Speaker 1: basically right to spirit that is always available. But the
- 7:28Speaker 1: dark side wants to lower that frequency to a place
- 7:31Speaker 1: that would be closer to Hell. Right what we It's
- 7:34Speaker 1: always been described as hell, place of torture, of suffering, pain,
- 7:37Speaker 1: place of the dead. Yeah, well even worse than death, right,
- 7:41Speaker 1: death is one thing go below that, you know, and
- 7:46Speaker 1: it's like that's the level of self destruction, like you
- 7:50Speaker 1: said with the pigs, you know, self destructiveness. So this
- 7:53Speaker 1: is the battle. And again if the dark Side has
- 7:59Speaker 1: you know, waged war on mankind, let's say, right, if
- 8:02Speaker 1: we believe and this is you know, this is not
- 8:06Speaker 1: just Christian tradition. I mean, this is like a lot
- 8:08Speaker 1: of story there is. Yeah, there's a lot of stories
- 8:10Speaker 1: around the world have talked about this. You know that
- 8:12Speaker 1: there's something that's waging war on mankind. They want they
- 8:18Speaker 1: want possession of the soul. They want us to check out,
- 8:21Speaker 1: to get to surrender. Right to check out, say, handover
- 8:24Speaker 1: control of the vehicle, And that seems to be the
- 8:28Speaker 1: real battle. Right, are we autonomous beings?
- 8:30Speaker 3: We have handover control of the vehicle? Being right? Climate
- 8:35Speaker 3: change and carbon net neutrality, what does that mean? What
- 8:38Speaker 3: are we made out of? Carbon wage? War on us humans?
- 8:43Speaker 3: We can connect all these dots. It doesn't have to
- 8:45Speaker 3: be some great Yes, I do believe in this dark
- 8:48Speaker 3: side versus light side type of thing, this so to
- 8:51Speaker 3: speak to Star Wars dark force light force. But at
- 8:54Speaker 3: the same time, there are actual people who are actually
- 8:57Speaker 3: waging war on humanity and human kind, and we can
- 9:00Speaker 3: call them by name, the World Economic Forum being one
- 9:04Speaker 3: of them, right, the Military Industrial Complex DARPA like pallanteer,
- 9:10Speaker 3: so these surveillance states, the colons, elite Builderberg right, and
- 9:15Speaker 3: so the bloodline families that are also doing these things.
- 9:18Speaker 3: And so it doesn't have to be some mythical big
- 9:21Speaker 3: bad entity which we can use is that the cathonic
- 9:26Speaker 3: forces of HP Lovecraftian entities that are like moving through us,
- 9:31Speaker 3: which are fear, lust, greed. So I think it's really
- 9:35Speaker 3: important to kind of like put these these things in
- 9:38Speaker 3: their place of the.
- 9:39Speaker 1: Story, control of our vehicles. I mean, we all experienced
- 9:43Speaker 1: this during COVID. Imagine, like, you know, all this sudden
- 9:46Speaker 1: seems so far out, but like during COVID, we actively
- 9:49Speaker 1: saw people checked out from fear and like dead body
- 9:54Speaker 1: dead things, you know, putting on masks so they can't
- 9:56Speaker 1: even really breathe. They can't in a quarter of law,
- 10:00Speaker 1: you can't. You're like, you know, you can't speak if
- 10:02Speaker 1: you've got a mask on, right, So, like you don't
- 10:04Speaker 1: have any say. So when you put a mask on,
- 10:06Speaker 1: you're basically taking away your power to speak and to breathe.
- 10:09Speaker 1: So you're like a dead You're like a dead thing.
- 10:11Speaker 3: Now, Oh, masks, I thought masks were good. I'm confused. Okay,
- 10:19Speaker 3: never mind, let's move on.
- 10:20Speaker 1: And then beyond that, we saw the hysteria that came
- 10:23Speaker 1: with it. You know, from fear, all that fear around.
- 10:26Speaker 1: You're infected. You might be infected. This person could be infected.
- 10:29Speaker 1: You didn't get your shot. You better stay away. You
- 10:32Speaker 1: can't come to the family gathering. You can't come into
- 10:34Speaker 1: that to my establishment. And if you're in California, I
- 10:37Speaker 1: mean I left the state because it was like I
- 10:40Speaker 1: can get a fake vaccine card, but I don't want
- 10:43Speaker 1: to engage with people that are mandating this right. What
- 10:46Speaker 1: kind of hysteria? What kind of madness is this?
- 10:48Speaker 2: Right?
- 10:49Speaker 1: So we've all experienced that kind of possession, not like
- 10:52Speaker 1: some people personally experienced it and then said, wait a minute,
- 10:55Speaker 1: I was in fear and I've woken up, and others
- 10:58Speaker 1: just saw it and saying like everyone's possessed all of
- 11:01Speaker 1: a sudden by this, Yeah, by this fear. So what's
- 11:04Speaker 1: in your toothpaste? If you're using the.
- 11:05Speaker 3: Break what's in your toothpaste doesn't matter?
- 11:13Speaker 1: Yeah, from I understanding, and.
- 11:14Speaker 3: It does matter. Don't use fluoride in your toothpaste. Floora
- 11:16Speaker 3: is bad for you children. I just want you all
- 11:18Speaker 3: to know I do believe. I do like the nano part.
- 11:21Speaker 3: There's a certain toothpaste that I really like out there,
- 11:24Speaker 3: but I don't have any sponsors yet. So if there
- 11:26Speaker 3: any spouse sponsors out there for a healthy brand, healthy's toothpaste,
- 11:29Speaker 3: I'd love to take it on put that out there.
- 11:32Speaker 3: Thank you all for the healthy brand healthy toothpaste that
- 11:35Speaker 3: we use in this household.
- 11:36Speaker 1: Yeah he was, you know, he was with that lodge
- 11:39Speaker 1: as well, but higher higher than I was. But the
- 11:44Speaker 1: point is that it's it's it's an initiation to kind
- 11:49Speaker 1: of what I felt was being observed and watched and
- 11:54Speaker 1: thank you.
- 11:55Speaker 3: Nano hydroxy appetite, appetite, that's that. Yes, I have that
- 11:58Speaker 3: in my toothpaste. That's exactly where I was trying to say,
- 12:00Speaker 3: thank you, mistic, mamma, that's exactly what we're what we're
- 12:03Speaker 3: trying to say, thank you.
- 12:04Speaker 1: You know it was watched because after doing the first
- 12:08Speaker 1: degree initiation where you get the blindfold and the noose
- 12:11Speaker 1: and all this stuff is online. I'm not revealing some secrets,
- 12:14Speaker 1: all the phrases and things, you know, the geometry of
- 12:19Speaker 1: it where you have to walk, you know.
- 12:20Speaker 3: Certain it's talking about the entered apprentice degree, where you're
- 12:24Speaker 3: taking on the idea of dying of your ego or
- 12:28Speaker 3: dying of your old self and being reborn, which is
- 12:30Speaker 3: actually a really important aspect of any initiation tradition. It's
- 12:34Speaker 3: the osiris slain right nick.
- 12:39Speaker 1: Directions and points and say certain things. All that's online
- 12:42Speaker 1: now it's public, but when you perform it, ritualistically, like
- 12:45Speaker 1: a play. There are other forces that are not human
- 12:50Speaker 1: that are engaging in the experience.
- 12:54Speaker 3: And he's talking about the free Masonic egg.
- 12:57Speaker 1: Grigor know that because when I was leaving the lodge
- 13:00Speaker 1: that night with my friend, we got a phone call
- 13:06Speaker 1: and it was an unknown number and this sort of
- 13:10Speaker 1: husky voice.
- 13:11Speaker 3: Okay, so he's just talking about he was getting his
- 13:13Speaker 3: entered apprentice degree and then he left the lodge with
- 13:15Speaker 3: his friend and now he's getting a phone call.
- 13:17Speaker 1: Was on the phone and he was like, how is
- 13:19Speaker 1: the meeting. I was like, it's an interesting game you
- 13:22Speaker 1: guys have going here, and it's like and we were
- 13:25Speaker 1: just talking a bit, seeing a lot of things that
- 13:28Speaker 1: were like biblical, you know, forty days in the cave,
- 13:30Speaker 1: forty some stuff that I didn't understand. But I knew
- 13:36Speaker 1: that they were watching me because I was walking back
- 13:38Speaker 1: to my apartment in New York.
- 13:40Speaker 3: I knew that they were watching me because I was
- 13:42Speaker 3: walking back to my apartment in New York.
- 13:44Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, so you're watching me. He's like yeah.
- 13:46Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, what am I doing. He's like, you're walking?
- 13:49Speaker 1: So I stopped walking and I'm like, oh yeah, He's like.
- 13:52Speaker 3: So, didn't you just say he was talking to a
- 13:53Speaker 3: friend from the lodge?
- 13:56Speaker 2: Uh No, I think he said it was like a, no,
- 13:58Speaker 2: it was somebody that he didn't know.
- 14:00Speaker 3: Okay, okay, a phone call he got and the voice
- 14:03Speaker 3: husky voice, a phone call of a husky voice. It's
- 14:05Speaker 3: like a it's like we're listening to Reddit right now.
- 14:08Speaker 1: Yeah, you stopped walking, and I was like, okay, it
- 14:11Speaker 1: could be a guess, but let's just go, you know,
- 14:13Speaker 1: continue the conversation. Go upstairs. And I had like a
- 14:17Speaker 1: gray shirt on in black pants, and I started recording
- 14:23Speaker 1: the conversation. The audio did not record. Subsequently, only the
- 14:28Speaker 1: video recorded.
- 14:29Speaker 3: But so his phone is in on the conspiracy.
- 14:33Speaker 1: Right as I was recording. This basically was it was
- 14:37Speaker 1: this man's voice, and then it would be a woman
- 14:39Speaker 1: that would take over. So it was like two voices.
- 14:41Speaker 1: It was one as a man, one is a woman.
- 14:43Speaker 1: And then she basically said stop recording, and I was like,
- 14:49Speaker 1: you know, I didn't stop. I would maybe like stop
- 14:51Speaker 1: for a minute. And I turned it back on and
- 14:53Speaker 1: I had a at that time, I had a cross on. Sorry,
- 14:57Speaker 1: it was not across, it was it was a Islamic sword.
- 15:02Speaker 3: Uh huh across. No, it's not Christian. It's an Islamic sword.
- 15:07Speaker 3: I had an Islamic.
- 15:08Speaker 1: Sword on why that I had as a necklace.
- 15:15Speaker 3: Interesting, But he's getting his second he's only getting his
- 15:18Speaker 3: first degree.
- 15:19Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd have to be up a little bit more,
- 15:21Speaker 2: I think in order to do that.
- 15:23Speaker 3: Which again, everyone you can go look up exactly what
- 15:26Speaker 3: the entered Apprentice degree is about. You just lost Key's
- 15:29Speaker 3: a freemasonry Manly P. Hall has tons of work on it.
- 15:31Speaker 3: Mark Stavish and Angel Miller has talked about it. Jason
- 15:35Speaker 3: Paul Lamb has talked what's his name, oh, Jamie. Jamie
- 15:40Speaker 3: Paul Lamb has a whole book on it, a great book.
- 15:42Speaker 3: And so I'm just there's tons of work on the
- 15:44Speaker 3: Masons that we all can know what the Intered Apprentice
- 15:47Speaker 3: degree is.
- 15:48Speaker 1: My shirt off and she's like, put your shirt back on,
- 15:52Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, you don't like this this
- 15:54Speaker 1: symbol or what's wrong, you know? And it was like
- 15:56Speaker 1: put your shirt back on, and I'm like, you know,
- 15:59Speaker 1: we just continue to But there were a few things.
- 16:01Speaker 3: The symbol he doesn't know what he was wearing is that.
- 16:03Speaker 1: I remember distinctly, including her saying, I'll leave you with this.
- 16:07Speaker 1: You're wearing a gray shirt with black pants, so something.
- 16:11Speaker 3: Gray shirt with black pants, because he just got done
- 16:14Speaker 3: with his degree, so he was just coming from looking nice.
- 16:16Speaker 1: Obviously had been observing me that night, and they continued
- 16:20Speaker 1: to talk with me, and it was essentially they texted
- 16:27Speaker 1: me thereafter, and it was like it went on for
- 16:29Speaker 1: an hour or so, like off and on. My friend
- 16:31Speaker 1: who took me there, got really sick to a stomach.
- 16:33Speaker 1: He was like vomiting actually after that, during that same
- 16:36Speaker 1: time that I was on the phone, and he really
- 16:39Speaker 1: was like physically out of it. And so I was
- 16:42Speaker 1: conversing with these things for like an hour, and again with.
- 16:46Speaker 3: These things, he's conversing with people, not things. He's conversing
- 16:49Speaker 3: with people on a phone for like an hour. His
- 16:51Speaker 3: friend's convulsing, right, And I want everyone to know out
- 16:54Speaker 3: there because maybe you don't understand the way I think
- 16:56Speaker 3: about things is obviously what he's saying. We need to
- 16:59Speaker 3: see from multiple models of reality. He could be a
- 17:04Speaker 3: making this up and already knew what they were going
- 17:08Speaker 3: to talk about, or knew this is gonna come up,
- 17:09Speaker 3: So we made this up to sound cool and important.
- 17:12Speaker 3: Which we know people that have done it in our lives, right,
- 17:16Speaker 3: We all know people who have embellished and made up
- 17:19Speaker 3: lies to make themselves sound cool, right, And the spiritual
- 17:21Speaker 3: community and the ocult community in our normal everyday community,
- 17:24Speaker 3: and the religious community, all these things. Or actually he
- 17:28Speaker 3: got a phone call because he's Shawan Stone, he's Oliver
- 17:31Speaker 3: Stone's son, so he is in the big club of
- 17:34Speaker 3: nepotism and craziness. And so there are people watching him
- 17:38Speaker 3: that are part of the three letter agencies fucking with him,
- 17:41Speaker 3: who have integrated themselves into their lodge. Because it's easy.
- 17:46Speaker 3: All you have to do is act like a good
- 17:47Speaker 3: person and say the right things, and a bunch of
- 17:49Speaker 3: individuals could just be like, oh, this is a great person.
- 17:52Speaker 3: Is his background check works out? We need more people,
- 17:55Speaker 3: this is great, let's bring him in. And as we
- 17:57Speaker 3: heard in the last symbol of Dan Brown's you know,
- 18:01Speaker 3: you can have bad people being initiated because of they
- 18:04Speaker 3: act good, right, and so that or what are we
- 18:08Speaker 3: gonna say.
- 18:09Speaker 2: I said, oh no, yeah, yeah.
- 18:12Speaker 3: Or or there actually was ultraterrestrial demonic entities tapping into
- 18:19Speaker 3: his cell phone making it so it didn't work, and
- 18:21Speaker 3: they were fucking with him because of they are the
- 18:24Speaker 3: Jacques Valet slash Peter Lavenda men in black who are
- 18:28Speaker 3: trying to fuck with this one individual who really doesn't
- 18:31Speaker 3: have any power whatsoever over anything. So multiple realities to
- 18:36Speaker 3: see this through.
- 18:37Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, God said to you earlier, I said, there's
- 18:42Speaker 2: like two things I see with this. The guy's making
- 18:44Speaker 2: it up or if it really happened, he was being trolled.
- 18:47Speaker 3: Yeah, I like this frat boy hazing stuff. That's funny. No,
- 18:52Speaker 3: I know, I completely agree. Yeah, it's silly.
- 18:56Speaker 1: The fallen Angels because this goes back to again the Gin,
- 19:04Speaker 1: the unseen world, the idea that remember the Book of
- 19:08Speaker 1: Enoch talks about this, that the fall basically is not
- 19:13Speaker 1: just Lucifer's. It's like Lucifer and the what was it there?
- 19:16Speaker 1: The three hundred three hundred I think that fell But
- 19:21Speaker 1: a lot of it had to do with the origin
- 19:24Speaker 1: of like how the angels fell in love with human
- 19:28Speaker 1: human women, right, That's the story of Enoch, was that, yes,
- 19:31Speaker 1: they fell in love with human women, they had children.
- 19:34Speaker 1: The nepheline, the fallen ones are also I guess they're
- 19:37Speaker 1: also fallen ones, and like the bloodline war Basically I
- 19:43Speaker 1: was like you know, fallen angels.
- 19:45Speaker 3: Having he just said bloodline war interesting enough, So that's
- 19:50Speaker 3: an interesting little little drop there. And they asked the
- 19:52Speaker 3: Book of Enoch talking about the Watchers. The Watchers are
- 19:55Speaker 3: the fallen angels. The watchers gave the gifts of the
- 19:59Speaker 3: gods to the the humans and fell in love with
- 20:02Speaker 3: the women and made it and did the thing.
- 20:06Speaker 2: He says some really interesting shit with this, where I think,
- 20:09Speaker 2: in certain ways, I do think he makes a good point.
- 20:11Speaker 2: And then also like this is like very this part right,
- 20:15Speaker 2: he is very interesting. That's all I can say, I think,
- 20:17Speaker 2: And I'll go on as he.
- 20:19Speaker 1: Mentions bills are not human women and becoming like the
- 20:23Speaker 1: great leaders of old, you know, the the ise of
- 20:26Speaker 1: renowned men, the men of renow and exactly the leaders
- 20:30Speaker 1: of the military and the emperors or kings of the time.
- 20:34Speaker 1: We're all bloodlines. So all this came up that night.
- 20:39Speaker 4: What's interesting is if you bring up that story from
- 20:42Speaker 4: You're not gonna it's alluded to in Genesis six as well,
- 20:46Speaker 4: people look at you like, that's the craziest thing I've
- 20:48Speaker 4: ever heard. Where does that come from? Is that like
- 20:51Speaker 4: a David Ike concept or something. But then if you
- 20:55Speaker 4: just assess it not emotionally. That's pretty much every religion
- 21:00Speaker 4: tells that story, including Christianity. Jesus is the product of
- 21:03Speaker 4: spirit and a human woman God and Mary, so metaphorically the.
- 21:10Speaker 1: Greek myths are the same. Alexander was. His mother said
- 21:14Speaker 1: that Zeus came to her exactly, So I'm not you know, or.
- 21:18Speaker 3: A great dragon is actually the interpretation of how Alexander was.
- 21:24Speaker 4: I mean, that's not proof, but it's certainly an indication.
- 21:28Speaker 4: This is not like a crazy new theory that David
- 21:29Speaker 4: Ike thought.
- 21:30Speaker 1: Of, not at all. And that's why I always say
- 21:32Speaker 1: the basis of every religion. Yeah, but that's why people
- 21:34Speaker 1: get so they want you to think about I guess
- 21:36Speaker 1: like he's the crazy guy. But that's why I studied
- 21:39Speaker 1: history because I wanted to say, no, I was just
- 21:42Speaker 1: picking up on old traditions and he's just listening to
- 21:45Speaker 1: people that are telling him stories, which I think to
- 21:48Speaker 1: hear that.
- 21:48Speaker 4: Story in any church in the United States every Sunday,
- 21:50Speaker 4: exactly right. So it's not conceptually, it's not a departure
- 21:55Speaker 4: from what people have thought for thousands of years that
- 21:58Speaker 4: there is the physical reality of actress from the spiritual
- 22:04Speaker 4: I'm impregnating human women.
- 22:06Speaker 1: Right right, and going again. I mean even the Ananachy
- 22:09Speaker 1: texts of the Samerians before, you know, which predates the
- 22:12Speaker 1: Old Testament, talking about exactly this thing about the Ananaqi
- 22:15Speaker 1: sky gods creating the first humans as their workers, and
- 22:20Speaker 1: you know, and again like the flood, which.
- 22:23Speaker 3: Is that thing?
- 22:24Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I just want to throw this
- 22:26Speaker 2: in there real quick. What I find interesting about this
- 22:29Speaker 2: part is that I do I do agree actually with
- 22:32Speaker 2: what he's saying here with this whole Uh. If you
- 22:36Speaker 2: really want to try to like start looking at the
- 22:37Speaker 2: n FL them, I think you can find other examples
- 22:40Speaker 2: like well, what has that then? You know, I'm saying
- 22:43Speaker 2: that could start making things a little iffy. The reason
- 22:46Speaker 2: why I want to focus on that is because that
- 22:48Speaker 2: I do think whatever's referring to before, it's a very
- 22:53Speaker 2: interesting thing I see going on is how certain radicalized
- 22:58Speaker 2: Christians want to start taking almost kind of a conspiracy
- 23:01Speaker 2: theory thought change almost kind of the religion itself by
- 23:05Speaker 2: now equating something to be specific to now to then
- 23:10Speaker 2: use that to spin off Satanic panic and just you know,
- 23:15Speaker 2: dishole everything's demons. Because I do see the Nephilim as
- 23:19Speaker 2: being the gateways now start bringing in that aliens or demons.
- 23:24Speaker 1: That's great.
- 23:25Speaker 2: Yeah, Like the nephylum to me is like the mechanism
- 23:28Speaker 2: that I think is going to be used as the
- 23:30Speaker 2: justification to start like pointing fingers at certain things. Yeah,
- 23:35Speaker 2: and to get them going even more with uh, you know,
- 23:39Speaker 2: silly shit.
- 23:40Speaker 3: Yeah. No, that's that's a that's important, and it's important
- 23:43Speaker 3: because then it can lead to people that we're kind
- 23:44Speaker 3: of connected to doctor Heather Lynn who's doing amazing work
- 23:47Speaker 3: on the Onanachi with her Onachi revelations and trying to
- 23:51Speaker 3: talk about things that maybe you know, this is more
- 23:53Speaker 3: this there is something to do with this ultraterrestrial but
- 23:57Speaker 3: it's also integrated with this idea that it doesn't have
- 23:59Speaker 3: to come from outside of our planet. It can be
- 24:02Speaker 3: something that's going on with our planet and past civilizations
- 24:06Speaker 3: that happen pre Younger Driest period. As Graham Hancock is
- 24:10Speaker 3: talking about all the time that like what if the
- 24:13Speaker 3: Sumerian epic of the numa Elish with Inky and Enlil
- 24:17Speaker 3: and the Opcalu is actually hitting on something that the
- 24:23Speaker 3: individuals and these magicians of the gods that actually they
- 24:26Speaker 3: knew about the cyclical nature of our planet and how
- 24:29Speaker 3: it goes through catastrophes that line up with the precision
- 24:34Speaker 3: of the equinoxes. And when you know about these things,
- 24:37Speaker 3: then you can prep for the next one, which could
- 24:40Speaker 3: be Also why are parasitic class of oligarcic tech bros
- 24:47Speaker 3: and bloodline families are trying to a say that they
- 24:50Speaker 3: have this divine lineage of this divine right of kings,
- 24:52Speaker 3: and b they are also building bunkers because they don't
- 24:55Speaker 3: know what the fuck to do. They're trying to get
- 24:57Speaker 3: off planet. They're trying to figure out what's going to
- 24:59Speaker 3: happen as the poles seem to be shifting so slightly,
- 25:03Speaker 3: and our weather patterns are weird as we move from
- 25:06Speaker 3: solar minimum to solar maximums and back and forth, and
- 25:09Speaker 3: so yeah, some pretty interesting stuff.
- 25:16Speaker 1: The flood mythology comes from that.
- 25:17Speaker 4: You know that God was so displeased by the behavior
- 25:20Speaker 4: of the Nephilon that he destroyed the world, right and.
- 25:23Speaker 3: Howard you're talking about Miro Massa, you're talking about the
- 25:26Speaker 3: sword maker, that the sword maker that like that swords
- 25:30Speaker 3: were possessed by the blood and this whole lineage of
- 25:34Speaker 3: swords is that was built now have this possession of
- 25:38Speaker 3: a blood pack that moves through time and massa mune brilliant.
- 25:42Speaker 3: Thank you Howard, that's true. You can go hit up.
- 25:45Speaker 3: I actually explained that whole thing in my Cagra Bachi
- 25:48Speaker 3: episodes and a manga that's out there. So thank you
- 25:52Speaker 3: Howard for the obscure reference of blood and swords and
- 25:56Speaker 3: Japanese mythology.
- 25:58Speaker 1: Behavior that he did. He specifically called out was violence
- 26:04Speaker 1: right right, and eating of actually eating of humans the
- 26:08Speaker 1: Nephelin did, remember Enick, Yeah, I didn't ever.
- 26:12Speaker 2: Hear Have you ever heard that before? That's like actually
- 26:14Speaker 2: new to me.
- 26:15Speaker 3: Uh to say it again.
- 26:16Speaker 2: He's saying that one of the parts or one of
- 26:18Speaker 2: the reasons why the Nephelin were considered evil or bad
- 26:20Speaker 2: was because he started eating humans.
- 26:22Speaker 3: Never heard of that before.
- 26:23Speaker 2: Yeah, he goes on about that here right now?
- 26:25Speaker 5: Really, Oh yeah, the giants ate the humans. Do you
- 26:29Speaker 5: remember that's it's in folklore? I think, what isn't it?
- 26:33Speaker 5: Isn't that folklore stuff where Jack climbed a beanstock and
- 26:36Speaker 5: up there were a bunch of like, uh or the
- 26:38Speaker 5: trolls over the bridge.
- 26:40Speaker 3: I don't know. That seems pretty.
- 26:41Speaker 1: Folklory to me, Well, it's in one of them.
- 26:46Speaker 3: It's in one of them. It's didn't one of them,
- 26:50Speaker 3: you know. Fuck? Okay, great, thanks Sean.
- 26:54Speaker 1: Either.
- 26:55Speaker 3: I thought you wanted to know history, and now we're
- 26:57Speaker 3: talking about myth and folklore, and so of course giants
- 26:59Speaker 3: seed human.
- 27:00Speaker 1: I mean, I thought it was in the Bible, but
- 27:01Speaker 1: it's definitely an enoch then, because that was the issue
- 27:04Speaker 1: that they were the giants were eating people.
- 27:06Speaker 3: No, that's bullshit, it's utter bullshit. And the idea, yes,
- 27:09Speaker 3: the the in the Bible it states that, and so
- 27:12Speaker 3: we all know Noah and his arc isn't just in
- 27:15Speaker 3: the Bible in that time of Abraham. It's actually also
- 27:18Speaker 3: in the epics of Gilgameshus and Chinese mythology, South American mythology.
- 27:22Speaker 3: The great flood of the younger dry ass period of
- 27:25Speaker 3: the wiping of the old world into the new or
- 27:28Speaker 3: whenever that happened, is one of those things that is
- 27:32Speaker 3: all over the place. And were the watchers who birthed
- 27:36Speaker 3: with you know, birds, this, you know this bloodlines, were
- 27:40Speaker 3: they eating humans and creating giants, centaurs and fucking unicorns.
- 27:45Speaker 3: I don't know, it's crazy.
- 27:49Speaker 1: And uh so this you know then takes us to
- 27:52Speaker 1: the very you know, present day of you know when
- 27:57Speaker 1: demon you know, the low around demons drinking human blood
- 28:00Speaker 1: blood or like you know, demon possessed humans drinking human blood,
- 28:03Speaker 1: Dracula mythology, right, I mean, this is all it's it's
- 28:07Speaker 1: it's drawn upon the old world. But it you know,
- 28:11Speaker 1: when I when when Hunter Das Thompson talks about adrenochrome
- 28:15Speaker 1: and people say, oh, he made that up, and I go, yeah,
- 28:17Speaker 1: except I talked to a military intelligence guy who goes,
- 28:22Speaker 1: drenacome is real because it comes across our our, our
- 28:25Speaker 1: messaging boards all the time. You know, Adrenochrome is being
- 28:28Speaker 1: trafficked into the country. Adrenochrome is a compound from the
- 28:32Speaker 1: human adrenal gland. Is that correct?
- 28:34Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 28:34Speaker 1: I mean my understanding is it's it's like an adrenaline basically,
- 28:37Speaker 1: it's adrenaline that gets secreted and from like obviously adrenaline
- 28:43Speaker 1: from anxiety, from stress, fear, fear, and it's you know,
- 28:47Speaker 1: it's something specifically that is being used for you know,
- 28:53Speaker 1: as it as a drug or is it you know,
- 28:56Speaker 1: is it demonic food? I don't know. I mean it's again,
- 28:59Speaker 1: it's it's not something that I've personally experienced. But you know,
- 29:02Speaker 1: it's like we're connecting the ancient world to the modern world,
- 29:06Speaker 1: and it seems to be you know, if it's one
- 29:08Speaker 1: long thread, we can't you know, we can't just ignore that.
- 29:11Speaker 3: Well here's something that can't just ignore that, Well we
- 29:13Speaker 3: could actually we could just ignore that or not. I mean,
- 29:16Speaker 3: you know, the idea more like less is like, you know,
- 29:20Speaker 3: why why are we talking about that when you know,
- 29:22Speaker 3: like bringing those things up when there are actual like
- 29:25Speaker 3: the elites and I even like that, right, parasitic class.
- 29:28Speaker 3: There's lots of human trafficking going on and these different things,
- 29:31Speaker 3: and yet we want to talk about maybe one drug
- 29:34Speaker 3: that you know, whatever, it's it's craziness.
- 29:38Speaker 1: So interesting that you mentioned forty five. Obviously that's the
- 29:40Speaker 1: end of the Second World War, right British you know,
- 29:44Speaker 1: British broadcasting was originally part of British intelligence, like it
- 29:48Speaker 1: was always you know, they understood that propaganda was key.
- 29:51Speaker 1: I mean, that was right first.
- 29:52Speaker 3: Uh, thank you, young stitches. I'm guessing this is from
- 29:57Speaker 3: somewhere in the Biblical text. These giants consumed everything humans produced,
- 30:00Speaker 3: and when humans can support them, the giants turned against
- 30:03Speaker 3: them and devour mankind. That just sounds like the same
- 30:06Speaker 3: thing that we're always getting in our mythology where you know,
- 30:09Speaker 3: Chronos it kills his father Unest and Zeus kills Chronos
- 30:14Speaker 3: and now you know, Zeus is then taken over by
- 30:17Speaker 3: you know, the human you know, the humans try to
- 30:19Speaker 3: take down Olympics. So this is we're always trying to
- 30:22Speaker 3: kill our father, right, very Freudian getting back into that,
- 30:25Speaker 3: the Freudian ship that we don't want to get stuck with.
- 30:29Speaker 1: Bringing us into the First World War, getting us you know,
- 30:32Speaker 1: getting us involved, and then obviously the Second World War
- 30:34Speaker 1: the same There was a huge amount of propaganda that
- 30:37Speaker 1: was that was put out for it, but then we
- 30:40Speaker 1: adopted those same techniques post forty five, I would say
- 30:43Speaker 1: with the various radio projects, you know, whether it was
- 30:47Speaker 1: like you know and from radio to television, right, the
- 30:49Speaker 1: same concepts. A lot of the guys as you know
- 30:52Speaker 1: that were like intelligence OSS officers or you know, part
- 30:56Speaker 1: of the OSS then became like executives and whatnot. For
- 31:00Speaker 1: the original you know TV channels, which as you know
- 31:03Speaker 1: at the time was like what like four you know,
- 31:06Speaker 1: it was like ABC CV plus, yeah, four, right, and
- 31:10Speaker 1: so it was very it was very important to send
- 31:13Speaker 1: out messaging. And then likewise with radio.
- 31:16Speaker 3: Yeah is that fascinating? Hey they're mystic mama. It's isn't it?
- 31:20Speaker 3: Like they're just dropping ship all over the place. So
- 31:22Speaker 3: how can the normy individual take in any of the
- 31:26Speaker 3: information besides just getting fear mongered into all these different
- 31:30Speaker 3: talking talking words.
- 31:31Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was even saying before because then there
- 31:32Speaker 2: is ship in there that's like kind of like, you know,
- 31:35Speaker 2: serious that I could see, like really captivating you. And
- 31:38Speaker 2: then when they throw this ship and you just take
- 31:39Speaker 2: it as well, that shit sounded good.
- 31:42Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 31:44Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying the price stuff sounded pretty deep. This
- 31:46Speaker 2: motherfucker knows what he's talking about. I guess I'll believe
- 31:48Speaker 2: what he says.
- 31:49Speaker 3: Yeah, both these people are authorities. That's that's Oliver Stone's son, Tucker.
- 31:53Speaker 3: Tucker is a truther.
- 31:55Speaker 1: It was the same thing. It was like, Okay, first
- 31:57Speaker 1: radio was used, you know, for for information before television,
- 32:01Speaker 1: but then radio became the music and so it became
- 32:04Speaker 1: like Top forty what was it, the Top forty project,
- 32:07Speaker 1: Like essentially it was like let's let's figure out how
- 32:09Speaker 1: to basically condition people using music, and it's no longer
- 32:13Speaker 1: going to be symphonic, right, like long symphonic pieces of music.
- 32:18Speaker 1: It's going to be short three minutes or less of
- 32:21Speaker 1: you know, something that can like.
- 32:22Speaker 4: Cook people and cultural propaganda.
- 32:24Speaker 1: Culturally propagandaze over and over hypnotize people essentially. I mean
- 32:27Speaker 1: that's some music does. Think about the when we engage
- 32:31Speaker 1: with so interesting, engaging with young people now and seeing
- 32:34Speaker 1: how much, like you know, when I was a kid,
- 32:36Speaker 1: hip hop was it was kind of coming you know,
- 32:38Speaker 1: it was coming on in the nineties, but nowadays it's
- 32:41Speaker 1: like all those lyrics, a lot of a lot of
- 32:45Speaker 1: the the more debasing, you know lyrics. Let's say, how
- 32:48Speaker 1: do you end up with an only fans culture? Well,
- 32:50Speaker 1: starts with the lyrics that are put out through hip
- 32:52Speaker 1: hop music that's propagated to every you know, young kid
- 32:56Speaker 1: across the country.
- 32:57Speaker 3: Propagated by the military and dust drill complex and hip
- 33:02Speaker 3: hop rap culture, gang bang culture was put out there
- 33:05Speaker 3: by the fucking CIA in the three lettered agencies.
- 33:09Speaker 1: And then that becomes part of the cultural conditioning, languaging
- 33:14Speaker 1: all these things. So I think music is one of
- 33:16Speaker 1: the most important magical tools that no doubt you know,
- 33:20Speaker 1: that's that's used to obviously influence culture and then obviously
- 33:25Speaker 1: not just music and film, and nowadays with streaming, it's
- 33:29Speaker 1: it's hypno putting people in hypnotic states for hours on end,
- 33:33Speaker 1: right when you stream things into the conscious yea or
- 33:35Speaker 1: social media or hypnotic noticed and very addictive.
- 33:39Speaker 3: So much like going to Vegas with not only the
- 33:43Speaker 3: blue lights hitting the dopamine drop all the time. But
- 33:46Speaker 3: as you scroll, what does this look like? Let alone
- 33:48Speaker 3: it being like slots also looks like something else, you
- 33:51Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
- 33:53Speaker 1: TikTok especially may people literally just fall asleep to it,
- 33:55Speaker 1: you know, it's scrolling and streaming.
- 33:58Speaker 4: So part of the point the propaganda effort is not
- 34:02Speaker 4: just to highlight lies, but to prevent people from considering
- 34:05Speaker 4: things in full context or seeing the whole picture, always
- 34:09Speaker 4: eliminating certain important themes from the public conversation. And certainly
- 34:16Speaker 4: anything supernatural would fall into that. Blood and genetics would
- 34:21Speaker 4: also be part of that. But the people who run
- 34:25Speaker 4: the world never stop paying attention to the supernatural, to
- 34:29Speaker 4: blood and genetics, did they?
- 34:31Speaker 3: No?
- 34:31Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean from my experience, and
- 34:34Speaker 1: again I mean I have a limited experience of it.
- 34:37Speaker 1: But you talk to some of these families. And I mean,
- 34:42Speaker 1: first of all, in the UK, you feel it, especially
- 34:44Speaker 1: in England, the aristocratic culture, the mindset to this day
- 34:50Speaker 1: they still have a king, you know, okay, you know
- 34:54Speaker 1: they still have the aristocracy and the bloodlines families and
- 34:58Speaker 1: whatnot traditions. And then you know, you think about, like
- 35:03Speaker 1: you know, some of these families talk about they can
- 35:05Speaker 1: trace their ancestry back to the Roman Empire or even
- 35:10Speaker 1: before sometimes. But again it's just whether or not you're
- 35:16Speaker 1: aware again, like whether or not you're aware of it.
- 35:23Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, thank you. Not only are these
- 35:25Speaker 3: bloodline families tracing themselves back to the Roman Empire, that's
- 35:30Speaker 3: that's not even the Roman Empire, you know, one hundred
- 35:33Speaker 3: AD on all the way up. It started before then obviously,
- 35:38Speaker 3: you know, into the BC timeframes. But they're tracing their
- 35:42Speaker 3: lineages back thousands of all the way back to Sumer
- 35:45Speaker 3: and Babylon into Sargon and A a Cod and all
- 35:48Speaker 3: these different you know, And so they're trying to trace
- 35:50Speaker 3: their bloodline families all the way back pre that time
- 35:54Speaker 3: frame six thousand and thirteen thousand and beyond. And so
- 35:58Speaker 3: we all have to remember out there that I'm always
- 35:59Speaker 3: trying to hit on is that the Vatican has so
- 36:02Speaker 3: much of our history locked up into their archives, let
- 36:05Speaker 3: alone the British Museum, let alone the National Science Museum,
- 36:09Speaker 3: let alone what China has and Russia has, and all
- 36:14Speaker 3: the stuff that they sacked from fucking the Nazis, as
- 36:17Speaker 3: the Nazis were going out there looking for ocult history.
- 36:21Speaker 3: But you know, and so they're they're like tracing these
- 36:23Speaker 3: things back to root races like Blovotsky was doing and
- 36:27Speaker 3: all these things, which is neither here nor there, but
- 36:29Speaker 3: the idea of that it only goes back to the
- 36:31Speaker 3: Roman period because we have to remember, as we know
- 36:32Speaker 3: with Peter Mark adams work, that he's hitting on because
- 36:36Speaker 3: he's hitting on that Rome and the Mithraea cults stem
- 36:40Speaker 3: pre that into your Middle East, into your Persia Iran.
- 36:43Speaker 3: You know that the same place all the way back
- 36:45Speaker 3: to Babylon. And that's where deck doctor heather Lins work
- 36:49Speaker 3: and Peter Mark adams work is aligning, is that they're
- 36:52Speaker 3: tracing these stellar cults, which is where we can get
- 36:55Speaker 3: our Mithraea cult from the Rome to the orphic tradition
- 36:59Speaker 3: of the egg of Fanes right and being born from
- 37:02Speaker 3: the light that light being born from there all the
- 37:05Speaker 3: way back to the stars of how these are rituals
- 37:09Speaker 3: of the stars and these stellar cults, and so it's
- 37:12Speaker 3: a fascinating thing that there's so much more going on
- 37:15Speaker 3: and it isn't all just blood sucking demons, and like
- 37:20Speaker 3: the Abrahamic traditions being the things that are trying to
- 37:22Speaker 3: save us, it's like no, like there the Abrahamic traditions
- 37:25Speaker 3: are coming from these stellar mystical traditions that are trying
- 37:29Speaker 3: to initiate people into what is truly going on with
- 37:33Speaker 3: the world and the humans that inhabit it, which is
- 37:35Speaker 3: really important. And it's not just for the upper oligarchic
- 37:41Speaker 3: transhumanist class of the parasitic class. It is for every
- 37:45Speaker 3: single one of us. Which is why places like here Megas,
- 37:49Speaker 3: in the media, the occult rejects, why we talk to
- 37:51Speaker 3: so many people, why we have so many conversations about this,
- 37:55Speaker 3: and why we hit on it so hard, is that
- 37:58Speaker 3: that there is so much more going on than we
- 38:00Speaker 3: could ever imagine. And right now the curtain is being
- 38:03Speaker 3: raised from this game. But at the same time, there's
- 38:05Speaker 3: so much chaos going on that it's hard to parse
- 38:07Speaker 3: fact from fiction.
- 38:10Speaker 1: I think some families more so than others. The families
- 38:15Speaker 1: that are more aware of it, I think have a
- 38:18Speaker 1: certain conditioning process that some people talk about when it
- 38:23Speaker 1: comes to the pedophilia. I think that's more normalized. It's
- 38:28Speaker 1: kind of part of the boarding school culture. Yep, oftentimes,
- 38:31Speaker 1: Like that was my sense of it when I was
- 38:33Speaker 1: I was at Oxford for two terms and you know,
- 38:36Speaker 1: hanging out with you know, some people, some families that
- 38:39Speaker 1: are more known than others, and they would tell, you know,
- 38:42Speaker 1: some of them would tell me, like, you know, the
- 38:43Speaker 1: boarding school culture was very you could say, you know, homosexual,
- 38:49Speaker 1: and that kind of dates back to in terms of
- 38:52Speaker 1: the aah.
- 38:55Speaker 3: That's crazy, screwed it up? Where are we at here?
- 38:58Speaker 1: Originally part of British intelligence, like it was non security camera,
- 39:03Speaker 1: then we adopted those same times.
- 39:05Speaker 3: Right, we're moving ahead because I fucked up. But the
- 39:07Speaker 3: idea is he just said boarding school culture has a
- 39:09Speaker 3: lot to do with homosexuality. We didn't say that he
- 39:13Speaker 3: did for some reason. Whatever that means, Let's move ahead.
- 39:15Speaker 1: To it, you know, scrolling and streaming.
- 39:18Speaker 4: So part of the point of the propaganda effort is
- 39:22Speaker 4: not just to highlight lies, but to prevent people from
- 39:25Speaker 4: considering things in full context or seeing the whole picture,
- 39:29Speaker 4: almost eliminating certain important themes from the public conversation, and
- 39:34Speaker 4: certainly anything supernatural would fall into that. Blood and genetics
- 39:41Speaker 4: would also be part of that.
- 39:44Speaker 3: But the people, we truly have the best audience, We
- 39:47Speaker 3: truly have the best comments.
- 39:48Speaker 4: I'm serious, who run the world never stop paying attention
- 39:53Speaker 4: to the supernatural, to blood and genetics?
- 39:55Speaker 1: Did they?
- 39:56Speaker 3: No?
- 39:56Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean from my experience, and
- 40:00Speaker 1: again I mean I'm I have a limited experience of it.
- 40:02Speaker 3: But oh yeah, we already saw this.
- 40:03Speaker 1: Thanks, guys, I can't I can't help you.
- 40:05Speaker 4: Basically, I don't know why I think I'm jumpier than you,
- 40:07Speaker 4: because if I was, you know, in between degrees and
- 40:10Speaker 4: the Masons and Satan started calling me, I would drop out.
- 40:13Speaker 1: What's not about dropping out or not, it's about any.
- 40:15Speaker 3: Barry Goll Guys and Satan started calling him. This is
- 40:18Speaker 3: what obtuscation and the embellishment happens.
- 40:20Speaker 2: He even talks about the whole six six six number.
- 40:22Speaker 2: I don't know if we jump past that or that,
- 40:23Speaker 2: but he does mention where he was getting like phone
- 40:25Speaker 2: calls from six to six six.
- 40:26Speaker 3: It's like that's it.
- 40:28Speaker 4: Yeah, that sends you know, its sons to boarding school
- 40:32Speaker 4: at seven or eight years.
- 40:35Speaker 1: Or even younger since or even younger.
- 40:37Speaker 3: And that's how you get a strange priest class culture.
- 40:40Speaker 3: That's why you get you know, when you take the
- 40:42Speaker 3: feminine out of things and we vilify sex and the aros,
- 40:47Speaker 3: the erotic nature of humanity and intimacy, you are going
- 40:50Speaker 3: to get people who are trying to repress desires instead
- 40:54Speaker 3: of work through them and understand the monster within can
- 40:57Speaker 3: be integrated so we can be come heroes on our path.
- 41:01Speaker 4: Yeah, my grandfather went, you know, at that kind of age,
- 41:06Speaker 4: and I wasn't good for him. I don't know why
- 41:10Speaker 4: you would do that. But it has something to do
- 41:13Speaker 4: with breaking down.
- 41:16Speaker 3: And it's not the Freemasons love their drama. It's mainstream
- 41:19Speaker 3: individuals who are trying to larp for the for certain
- 41:22Speaker 3: groups because it's like the Freemasons mostly Again, I don't
- 41:25Speaker 3: this is an abstraction and a generalization. It's not the Freemasons.
- 41:29Speaker 3: It's individuals who then come out of those things don't
- 41:33Speaker 3: understand the symbolic narrative that the psyche is going through
- 41:38Speaker 3: to go through a dying process and being reborn a
- 41:41Speaker 3: new individual, and so we are all trying to master
- 41:45Speaker 3: ourselves in this great game we call the world. And
- 41:48Speaker 3: I think that's really important. So it's not about it's
- 41:52Speaker 3: not about that because I think again, the Masons give
- 41:54Speaker 3: a lot of great things to the world and government,
- 41:57Speaker 3: like a lot of masonry is outlawed in different countries
- 41:59Speaker 3: because has been in the past, because it's dangerous when
- 42:04Speaker 3: good men stand up for the three pillars Beauty, strength,
- 42:10Speaker 3: and wisdom. You know, I think these are really important things.
- 42:15Speaker 4: Oh, normal qualities in a young man.
- 42:19Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's.
- 42:20Speaker 4: A pederastic thing, but it does have to do.
- 42:24Speaker 1: With Yeah, abuse has many forms, right, there's a physical,
- 42:27Speaker 1: there's a verbal. Yeah, the sexual is just usually like
- 42:30Speaker 1: the one that no one wants to talk about. I
- 42:33Speaker 1: know that's right, but obviously occurs.
- 42:36Speaker 3: So okay, does he keeps saying he has limited experience
- 42:42Speaker 3: and then goes on to try to talk about all
- 42:44Speaker 3: of his experience, And so that's that's a good that's
- 42:46Speaker 3: a good call.
- 42:48Speaker 1: I mean, it's sound like you you you ever like
- 42:51Speaker 1: establish like I'm going to meetings. No I wanted to
- 42:53Speaker 1: initiate to three degrees.
- 42:55Speaker 3: That you know, you do you establish you become you. First,
- 42:58Speaker 3: you sign up, you sign the petition, and then people
- 43:01Speaker 3: are all like you need you go. You interviewed with
- 43:04Speaker 3: two Masons, and those Masons you are like, okay, start
- 43:07Speaker 3: coming to things. Let's get you kind of see if
- 43:09Speaker 3: you like it. And then you'd need every Mason in
- 43:13Speaker 3: your lodge needs to agree that you can be accepted.
- 43:16Speaker 3: Otherwise you're not accepted. So it's not like it's just
- 43:19Speaker 3: really nearly. I wanted to do it, so I did it.
- 43:21Speaker 3: It's like no, there is like you're now initiating as
- 43:24Speaker 3: an entered apprentice. Your petition has been signed, and now
- 43:27Speaker 3: you're going to go through through degrees and until you
- 43:29Speaker 3: reach master Mason degree, the third degree of the Blue lodge,
- 43:33Speaker 3: you are not a Mason Blue lodge. Blue meaning the
- 43:37Speaker 3: color of higher avatardom, like Krishna was blue. A lot
- 43:42Speaker 3: of these higher beings come down as blue. Why because
- 43:45Speaker 3: blue is the color of the fourth Sepharra chess said,
- 43:50Speaker 3: or Jupiter Jupiter blue. So this is really important as
- 43:54Speaker 3: you move your way through the tree. Blue is this
- 43:57Speaker 3: sphere that has its own intelligence and force, so we
- 44:00Speaker 3: can understand its correspondence into our world. This guy's such shit.
- 44:05Speaker 1: I I entered and in between, by the way, okay,
- 44:09Speaker 1: so this is why I know this gets far out,
- 44:11Speaker 1: but like in between, we're already pretty far out the initiation,
- 44:15Speaker 1: the first degree, and the third degree. From in that
- 44:18Speaker 1: time period, I would get phone calls from six to
- 44:20Speaker 1: sixty six numbers all the time. Six six six sixty
- 44:23Speaker 1: six sixty six. We want your soul, like just demonic voices.
- 44:27Speaker 3: We want I want, bro, somebody's fucking with this guy.
- 44:30Speaker 3: It's so ridiculous. Sixty six to six is carbon, six neutrons,
- 44:35Speaker 3: six electrons, six protons is the planet we live on.
- 44:38Speaker 3: That's a three to eleven song.
- 44:40Speaker 2: By the way, m M yeah, I just I can't
- 44:43Speaker 2: with this. I don't buy it, all right, Like I said,
- 44:46Speaker 2: he's being fucked with controlled that's so crazy.
- 44:49Speaker 1: Your soul's kind of nonsense. So Satan called yourself. I mean,
- 44:53Speaker 1: I don't know if you know if it was Satan
- 44:55Speaker 1: or the CIA, but someone with a sixty six six
- 44:57Speaker 1: number that sounded a tannic called my cell and would
- 44:59Speaker 1: be like, we want your soul, and I would just laugh.
- 45:02Speaker 3: You must have the worst friends, not.
- 45:03Speaker 1: Mine, to give you know, my soul belongs to God.
- 45:05Speaker 1: So I don't know what you're taught. I can't, I can't,
- 45:08Speaker 1: I can't help you. Basically, I don't know why I.
- 45:09Speaker 4: Think I'm jumpier than you, because if I was, you know,
- 45:12Speaker 4: in between degrees in the Masons and Satan started calling me,
- 45:15Speaker 4: I would drop out.
- 45:17Speaker 1: Well, it's not about dropping out or not. It's about
- 45:18Speaker 1: initiating in your in they said, it's an initiating and
- 45:22Speaker 1: understanding of the world. And that's why I believe the
- 45:25Speaker 1: checkerboard is very real. Like the way that it's designed
- 45:27Speaker 1: is the checkerboard on the floor. It's black and white.
- 45:29Speaker 1: Not all satanis or evil. I do believe that there's
- 45:31Speaker 1: the path of light and there's a path of dark.
- 45:33Speaker 1: They want to assess who you are, and as I
- 45:35Speaker 1: say they, I mean, I could higher realm. Let us
- 45:37Speaker 1: to know what you are. So I believe that people
- 45:40Speaker 1: that join.
- 45:41Speaker 3: And black and white isn't just of the checker board,
- 45:43Speaker 3: isn't just good and evil. It actually is a representation
- 45:46Speaker 3: of the two pillars on either side of the tree
- 45:49Speaker 3: of life. For the two pillars you walk through when
- 45:50Speaker 3: you enter into the lodge, Jochim and Boaz, which is
- 45:53Speaker 3: obviously in the Bible as well, But the idea of
- 45:55Speaker 3: the pillar of mercy, in the pillar of severity. It's
- 45:58Speaker 3: not always in this black and good versus evil thing,
- 46:01Speaker 3: which is the dualistic nature that the fundamentalists are trying
- 46:04Speaker 3: to continually put us in, that there's this all good
- 46:07Speaker 3: thing and this all evil thing. Neverthe two shall meet. No,
- 46:10Speaker 3: we need to move into the thinking of the platonic good,
- 46:13Speaker 3: that anything that is that is a representation of that
- 46:16Speaker 3: good is a privation of the good. And you can
- 46:19Speaker 3: be completely a bad, terrible person. Obviously evil it can
- 46:23Speaker 3: be a used word because I totally feel like there's
- 46:25Speaker 3: lots of there are evil people in the world, But
- 46:28Speaker 3: in the platonic worldview, you see that as a privation
- 46:30Speaker 3: of the good, not that it is its own all
- 46:33Speaker 3: evil thing. This dualistic way of seeing.
- 46:35Speaker 1: Stuff, which was a darker side, you know, I think
- 46:40Speaker 1: I've seen it.
- 46:41Speaker 3: And then also the black and white checkerboard I forgot
- 46:43Speaker 3: is the yin and the young, and so they need
- 46:46Speaker 3: each other, big big one here, the yen and the
- 46:50Speaker 3: young need each other. Because of that is how you
- 46:53Speaker 3: create the ten thousand things of this world of the Kingdom.
- 46:59Speaker 1: They basically are willing to do anything. They're willing to
- 47:01Speaker 1: drink the blood, they're willing to make the oath essentially
- 47:04Speaker 1: to the dark because they just want power. And if
- 47:07Speaker 1: they know that you're not, your soul isn't wired that way,
- 47:11Speaker 1: you don't end up on the Satanic path. So again,
- 47:14Speaker 1: like a lot of these were just just kind of tests.
- 47:17Speaker 1: I felt like they were just kind of tests. Just
- 47:19Speaker 1: kind of like I got a call from Azazel one time,
- 47:25Speaker 1: as Aseel calls and then like a passed away.
- 47:30Speaker 4: The angel shut up, you just said, Azel called him,
- 47:34Speaker 4: and then his grandmother passed away a few days later.
- 47:37Speaker 2: You know, you know what the thing is like, Like
- 47:41Speaker 2: this is like one of those things that it's like, oh,
- 47:43Speaker 2: if you put it that way, like your conscience is
- 47:45Speaker 2: even gonna tell you should feel bad questioning if this
- 47:48Speaker 2: is a lie.
- 47:50Speaker 3: Yeah right, that's crazy.
- 47:54Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 47:54Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, I hate to say it,
- 47:56Speaker 2: but I do think that has done a lot. I mean,
- 48:00Speaker 2: look look out, certain politics even work that way.
- 48:04Speaker 3: Yeah, that's wild. Aazel was a watcher right in the
- 48:07Speaker 3: Book of Enoch, known for corrupting ula. He's uniquely blamed
- 48:13Speaker 3: for revealing heavenly seekerts that led to humanity's ruin. He
- 48:16Speaker 3: taught men how to make swords, knives, shields, and coats
- 48:18Speaker 3: of mail. It's an easy google. Is Azel is not
- 48:23Speaker 3: calling you, And if you think that's what's happening, you
- 48:26Speaker 3: should probably go to a therapist because these forces don't
- 48:32Speaker 3: know to use phones, and if they are, you need
- 48:34Speaker 3: to check yourself. But you need to figure out what
- 48:37Speaker 3: what you're going through, because it's more than just miss.
- 48:39Speaker 3: For some reason, not all Masons get the phone call
- 48:41Speaker 3: from Aaizel. So what do you do? What do you
- 48:43Speaker 3: do in sean stone in the corner of your own home? This?
- 48:46Speaker 3: Maybe maybe we should check his computer history now.
- 48:51Speaker 1: I mean it basically identified itself with and what did
- 48:56Speaker 1: you say? No, I just I knew what Azazel was,
- 48:59Speaker 1: so I knew a spirit of that was around. And then,
- 49:02Speaker 1: like I said, my grandmother passed, like I think within
- 49:04Speaker 1: within one or two days of that call. So I
- 49:06Speaker 1: was like, wow, okay.
- 49:08Speaker 3: Was Grandma sick? Questions and rest in peace, Grandma. So
- 49:13Speaker 3: we are very compassionate here at Magus in the media
- 49:16Speaker 3: and the occult rejects, and so we don't want to
- 49:19Speaker 3: make light of his grandmother dying because Grandma's are really
- 49:21Speaker 3: important in our life. But he didn't say that Grandma
- 49:24Speaker 3: had already been dealing with a lot of health problem.
- 49:27Speaker 2: I was going to say, how do you know this
- 49:28Speaker 2: isn't something that was already said like six months ago,
- 49:31Speaker 2: like your times zone.
- 49:32Speaker 3: That's exactly it, and so now he's causing This is
- 49:35Speaker 3: really important of why we need to train in philosophy
- 49:38Speaker 3: and understand objective reality, as we need to know the
- 49:43Speaker 3: difference between causation and correlation, because there's a massive difference
- 49:48Speaker 3: between these things.
- 49:49Speaker 1: What did the Angel of Death say on the phone?
- 49:52Speaker 2: Was it?
- 49:52Speaker 1: I don't remember, Like again it was. It wasn't like
- 49:55Speaker 1: I remember specifically an announcement of something. It was just
- 49:58Speaker 1: more of like in that time.
- 50:00Speaker 3: I agree for it.
- 50:01Speaker 1: I agree from these wanting my soul and.
- 50:06Speaker 3: Looking dude, I guess.
- 50:08Speaker 1: It was witches cackling like you know, come play with us,
- 50:12Speaker 1: like come you know, come join us. Sometimes it was
- 50:15Speaker 1: one time, and it's funny.
- 50:17Speaker 3: It truly feels like like Sean Stone is going through
- 50:19Speaker 3: a mental break. Actually, like this whole thing is him
- 50:22Speaker 3: going through a mental break, and he didn't really have
- 50:24Speaker 3: much foundation to stand upon to begin with, maybe because
- 50:26Speaker 3: his dad sold him into slavery at a young age.
- 50:28Speaker 3: I don't know. I played this on Alex not saying it,
- 50:31Speaker 3: not saying anything, but I'm saying something.
- 50:33Speaker 1: Danes show. Actually back in twenty twelve, it was a
- 50:36Speaker 1: call from against six sixty six and they were doing
- 50:38Speaker 1: ball worship. They're like calling on a good one, yo.
- 50:42Speaker 2: You know what's interesting that you mentioned before? Maybe it
- 50:46Speaker 2: could be like the like the you know, the you know,
- 50:48Speaker 2: the military or some sort of intelligence agency. I will
- 50:52Speaker 2: say it's interesting because he had said before it was
- 50:55Speaker 2: all sixes. You know, I mentioned before that I did
- 50:58Speaker 2: time in the FEDS and I had a Federal probation office.
- 51:03Speaker 2: Whenever they called, it was all nines.
- 51:06Speaker 3: Really.
- 51:07Speaker 2: Yeah, they had a way to where they could hide
- 51:09Speaker 2: their numbers so you didn't know it personally, so you
- 51:11Speaker 2: couldn't like fucking annoy them.
- 51:14Speaker 3: Oh that's good, that's good and all. Okay, So what
- 51:16Speaker 3: Nick of the Occult Rejects is saying, our great friend
- 51:19Speaker 3: Cardinal Head is saying, is that people can mask their
- 51:23Speaker 3: number by having it be shown as a different number.
- 51:26Speaker 2: Yeah, well they got Yeah. Well, I'm just saying, like
- 51:28Speaker 2: right there, I've experienced the federal government do that to
- 51:30Speaker 2: me when they called me for probation, it was all nines.
- 51:33Speaker 2: So I mean, could you have an agency that's like,
- 51:35Speaker 2: all right, we'll just throw all sixes in there. Mind
- 51:37Speaker 2: fucked this them, dude, you got the three sixes in this.
- 51:39Speaker 2: And now his mindset's already in that, in that thought
- 51:43Speaker 2: that Now when you tell them, now, when you tell
- 51:45Speaker 2: him it's a Zazel, they'll fucking read more. One will
- 51:47Speaker 2: believe them.
- 51:48Speaker 3: No, that's genius. And because what that reminds me of
- 51:51Speaker 3: is the book Robert Anton Wilson wrote about Alistair Crowley
- 51:54Speaker 3: and how Crowley would bring people through levels of initiation.
- 51:57Speaker 3: It is probably embellsch a little bit, but you would
- 51:59Speaker 3: mind fuck somebody. It's called operation mind Fuck for a
- 52:02Speaker 3: reason and the idea, you know, and that's Robert Anton
- 52:05Speaker 3: Wilson's word for it. But Crowley would put people through
- 52:09Speaker 3: levels of initiation into the world at the same time
- 52:12Speaker 3: to see how much and how you could put somebody
- 52:15Speaker 3: into imprint vulnerability. It's called the it's called the Historical Luminatus,
- 52:19Speaker 3: no Wilson's work, But it's a conversation that Einstein is
- 52:27Speaker 3: having with Carl Jung talking with this other character, talking
- 52:32Speaker 3: about his experiences of going through Croley's AA and Croley
- 52:36Speaker 3: being the huckster that he is and slight mentalist at times,
- 52:41Speaker 3: showing how to break down an individual to rebuild them
- 52:44Speaker 3: with a magical worldview. And so I'm not saying that's
- 52:47Speaker 3: what's happening to Sean Stone, but there's a lot going
- 52:49Speaker 3: on here that sounds like Shawn Stone's going through a
- 52:51Speaker 3: fucking mental break. Crowley was I six. Croley was part
- 52:56Speaker 3: of World War two and he helped us defeat the
- 52:59Speaker 3: Germans Nazis. By the way, we don't believe the Nazis
- 53:03Speaker 3: actually fell, They just moved over to the Great Three Countries.
- 53:07Speaker 3: And that's how we created NASA.
- 53:08Speaker 2: So is the peace sign supposedly.
- 53:12Speaker 3: No, that's it's Typhon. So he created Typhon to defeat exactly,
- 53:17Speaker 3: to defeat the Sun, the soular swastika. And so there
- 53:21Speaker 3: was a great occult history going on at that time.
- 53:23Speaker 1: Frame a Ball and they were like, it sound like
- 53:27Speaker 1: they were doing a ritual. These demonic voices are like Ball,
- 53:30Speaker 1: all you know, they're doing a ritual on this yeah,
- 53:33Speaker 1: on the phone call. So it was almost like they
- 53:36Speaker 1: were they were trying to like engage my energy for
- 53:38Speaker 1: what they were doing. You see, that goes back to
- 53:42Speaker 1: the question around the dark side wants more energy because
- 53:46Speaker 1: again it's disconnected from God. Well, I mean, is it disconnected.
- 53:51Speaker 1: Let's just say they're more disconnected. I don't think anything
- 53:54Speaker 1: is disconnected from God.
- 53:55Speaker 3: My prefer there is nothing disconnected from God. Because if
- 53:58Speaker 3: we can translate the God from being the am our
- 54:00Speaker 3: Hammock tradition which stole the prime mover idea from Aristotle.
- 54:04Speaker 3: But that's not what Aristotle was talking about. You cannot
- 54:07Speaker 3: you cannot like relate these two. Is that there is
- 54:09Speaker 3: no such thing as something away from the good.
- 54:11Speaker 2: Yeah, these comments.
- 54:16Speaker 1: God's universe, I don't think. I think the dark still
- 54:19Speaker 1: ultimately serves the creator's intention. I don't think you can.
- 54:23Speaker 1: You can't divorce yourself from the universe. But like you say,
- 54:25Speaker 1: their frequency is lower, so they're drawing upon higher vibrational
- 54:30Speaker 1: energy to try to right, to try to draw us down.
- 54:34Speaker 1: That's the battle, right, It's like, how many of those
- 54:36Speaker 1: of the light can we bring to the dark? How
- 54:38Speaker 1: many can we sink? We can't? They stopped after twenty twelve,
- 54:44Speaker 1: after our last degree of initiation, and after twenty twelve,
- 54:46Speaker 1: I never got calls again.
- 54:47Speaker 3: Twenty twelve is last degree of initiation. Strange enough theory
- 54:51Speaker 3: that in twenty twelve the world did end and we've
- 54:52Speaker 3: been stuck in a slow time warp to make it
- 54:55Speaker 3: so we didn't realize that the world ended. Our psychology
- 54:58Speaker 3: doesn't really handle apocalypse very well.
- 55:01Speaker 1: So I just felt like it was this kind of
- 55:03Speaker 1: testing phase.
- 55:05Speaker 3: It's kind of easy. Yeah, I agree, Frader get a
- 55:08Speaker 3: new right.
- 55:09Speaker 2: You've never thought about changing his number.
- 55:10Speaker 1: You get a new number, you know, not saying everything
- 55:14Speaker 1: like life is obviously the full of challenges, So I
- 55:16Speaker 1: think the dark can manifest in different ways. But for me,
- 55:19Speaker 1: it was like it was a very overt confrontation with
- 55:23Speaker 1: something that people would think is you know, a fairy
- 55:26Speaker 1: tale until you've lived. People at the lodge, at the
- 55:30Speaker 1: Cornerstone Lodge in New York were having similar experiences. Well,
- 55:33Speaker 1: I mean, I know the person I went with it,
- 55:35Speaker 1: but like some of the other guys that I know,
- 55:38Speaker 1: I don't think they anything changed in their life because yeah,
- 55:42Speaker 1: I mean, we all have different paths, right, we all.
- 55:45Speaker 3: Like Frader, I didn't know it. I think you just
- 55:48Speaker 3: showed yourself as Frader is an op of obviously nine
- 55:53Speaker 3: nine nine. Thanks Frader, at least you tell us that's good.
- 55:59Speaker 3: You know, my path, Frader is an op of Ysade,
- 56:03Speaker 3: an op of the Moon on the ninth suffer of
- 56:06Speaker 3: the tree of life. Thank you for being an op
- 56:08Speaker 3: of the moon Freighter.
- 56:10Speaker 1: This was frankly initiatory. I wanted to explore these things.
- 56:14Speaker 3: You know.
- 56:14Speaker 1: I went all the way to Iran just to talk
- 56:15Speaker 1: to you know, guys that were talking to Jin's and
- 56:18Speaker 1: trying to understand how the world you know, is working.
- 56:22Speaker 1: What drove you, Yeah, just.
- 56:25Speaker 4: Well you grew up in a materialistic society in southern California,
- 56:28Speaker 4: where the possibility of this stuff was not discussed.
- 56:31Speaker 1: I would well, no, I mean I went, I wasn't
- 56:33Speaker 1: you know. My dad took me to India and Tibet
- 56:34Speaker 1: when I was you know, nine, no ten, and you
- 56:38Speaker 1: know we went to the Himalayas and went to like
- 56:41Speaker 1: visit you know, Tibetan monasteries that we went to what's that,
- 56:45Speaker 1: uh the Tala Palace and uh, you know, the the
- 56:49Speaker 1: depict demons and stuff. Very overly in the iconography, right,
- 56:52Speaker 1: if you look at the artwork right of Tibet, Nepal,
- 56:55Speaker 1: the Buddhist cultures and even Hindus, right, Like you know,
- 56:59Speaker 1: they understand that there's demons and angels, and they wouldn't
- 57:02Speaker 1: call it. They wouldn't call it angels like it's but
- 57:04Speaker 1: like demi gods, right, I mean they would describe like
- 57:06Speaker 1: demi gods. Right, they don't call it that either, and
- 57:08Speaker 1: gel like more divine powerful being. They call it davas
- 57:12Speaker 1: dark faces of the demonic realm, and.
- 57:15Speaker 3: Devas and angels. Angel means devas and this is just
- 57:18Speaker 3: means messengers, messengers from different realms or frequencies or the
- 57:24Speaker 3: areas of our human of like consciousness that are tapping
- 57:30Speaker 3: into you know.
- 57:31Speaker 2: I'm almost positive I've even mentioned them on the show,
- 57:34Speaker 2: covering certain topics as either things like in a positive
- 57:37Speaker 2: sense or bringing like negative news, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 57:43Speaker 1: They look at everything I think is like different temptation.
- 57:46Speaker 1: So it's like you have to get comfortable. You have
- 57:48Speaker 1: to face the demon. You know, you can't if you
- 57:51Speaker 1: if you hide it, that's it gets scarier, just like
- 57:53Speaker 1: in a horror film. Right, It's always scarier, and you
- 57:56Speaker 1: don't know where the monster.
- 57:57Speaker 3: Is, which is then why a lot of goetic work
- 58:00Speaker 3: is about evoking spirits into a triangle, which I don't
- 58:04Speaker 3: actually think anybody should ever do, because there's ways to
- 58:07Speaker 3: work through your psychological demons, psycho physiological psycho physio phenomenological demons,
- 58:13Speaker 3: which are real and they do possess you, and they
- 58:17Speaker 3: do take shapes and forms. But the idea is to integrate.
- 58:21Speaker 3: You must integrate the shadow parts of yourself so you
- 58:25Speaker 3: can truly stand up in your call to adventure as
- 58:28Speaker 3: the hero and not be a coward.
- 58:32Speaker 1: Once you can, once you can face the monster, you
- 58:35Speaker 1: take away its power. Whereas you know, as going back
- 58:39Speaker 1: to the dream demon, the Freddy Krueger, it's like, you know,
- 58:41Speaker 1: I take my power back. I'm not afraid of you anymore.
- 58:45Speaker 1: That's the only way to defeat the monster.
- 58:47Speaker 2: I believe that.
- 58:48Speaker 1: Yeah, fear and hate also feed the demons. Yeah, well,
- 58:54Speaker 1: and had made a whole film, not Your Born Killer
- 58:56Speaker 1: is kind of about these this thing great film. It's
- 59:00Speaker 1: prey interesting. I mean, that's Borne Killer is if you
- 59:01Speaker 1: watch it as two demon possessed people, which is really
- 59:06Speaker 1: what they are. The main characters Mickey the main you know,
- 59:10Speaker 1: as he's been abused by his father who kills himself.
- 59:15Speaker 1: He's been physically abused by his father. The Juliet Lewis
- 59:18Speaker 1: character has been sexually abused by her father, and it's
- 59:22Speaker 1: like all this kind of chaotic American media, you know,
- 59:26Speaker 1: glorification of these two serial killers. But they're going through
- 59:29Speaker 1: their journey of hell basically like Healscape, until they find
- 59:32Speaker 1: that love. Love kills the demon. Right, that's their salvation
- 59:36Speaker 1: is through love. But we watched the movie. It's just
- 59:39Speaker 1: like two demon possessed people. It's pretty interesting.
- 59:44Speaker 3: Okay, so if we got weird there for a second,
- 59:46Speaker 3: see that brief blow. Yeah, it's cool, cool movie, right.
- 59:52Speaker 3: I think that hate and fear feed Yeah, I do,
- 59:55Speaker 3: see how smoothly, Thank you Frader. He conflates psychopathy with
- 59:58Speaker 3: actual possession. Yes, yeah, that is that's a great point.
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: I do dark forces and super spiritual forces unconscious hate,
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: you know, I think there's healthy, there's healthy. We hate
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: certain things that we find intolerable, right, But if we
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: hate the person, if we demonize, hating rights, that's feeding the.
- 1:00:21Speaker 4: Wanting to hurt other people, you know, having malice toward others. Yeah, exactly,
- 1:00:25Speaker 4: and then fear being terrorized. If those are both spiritual
- 1:00:31Speaker 4: foods for demons, how should we understand our government's concerted
- 1:00:39Speaker 4: effort over many years to make us terrified and hateful,
- 1:00:43Speaker 4: not just the government.
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: Media exam media with it, right, like media and government
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: working hand in hand.
- 1:00:48Speaker 4: Right, I mean those kind of are the messages. Really, Yeah,
- 1:00:51Speaker 4: there's someone you need to be afraid of, and there's
- 1:00:53Speaker 4: someone you should hate, required to hate.
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: Well, think about the nature of the Masonic lodges. There's
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: the Red Lodge and the Blue Lodge. I don't know
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: any Yeah, that's so that's the.
- 1:01:02Speaker 3: What's a red lodge?
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: I don't one is the York and one of the Scottish.
- 1:01:08Speaker 3: Maybe, well, there's only there's the Blue lodge, which is
- 1:01:12Speaker 3: the three and then red lodges are maybe lodges that
- 1:01:15Speaker 3: are past that. I don't I've there's only a blue
- 1:01:18Speaker 3: lodge masonry, which is what makes you a mason. And
- 1:01:21Speaker 3: then I guess those other lodges are the yeah, York
- 1:01:23Speaker 3: and Scottish.
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: Right, I don't know, famous like there's like there's there's
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: the Blue Lodge, which is more like the French ancestry.
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: The Scottish rite is the Red Lodge, and so think
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: about like the bloods that through So this.
- 1:01:37Speaker 3: Is something he just did and everyone out there, just
- 1:01:39Speaker 3: so we all know, Just so we all know, Blue
- 1:01:41Speaker 3: Lodge all masons. To be a mason, you have to
- 1:01:44Speaker 3: go through the Blue Lodge. You cannot just become a
- 1:01:48Speaker 3: Scottish or York, right, or a shriner. You have to
- 1:01:51Speaker 3: go through the three degrees to become a mason. Like
- 1:01:54Speaker 3: I said, masonry is three hierarchical degrees, climbing up the
- 1:01:58Speaker 3: steps and you you hit these things and then all
- 1:02:00Speaker 3: of a sudden you're a mason. And then everything else
- 1:02:03Speaker 3: is the collecting like talent like tool connecting eggs as
- 1:02:08Speaker 3: you're finding them, and that's going to be a Scottish
- 1:02:11Speaker 3: or York whatever whatever it is. And so that's a
- 1:02:14Speaker 3: stupid conflation of understanding what these things are. Yeah, I
- 1:02:17Speaker 3: guess Red Lodge is French instead of but that's a
- 1:02:20Speaker 3: Scottish instead of that's.
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: Stupid, stupid bloods and crips and the Democrats and the
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: Republicans as red and blue also the bloods of the crypts.
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: Stupid idea of it almost goes back to Jordan Maxwell.
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: Especially people articulate, yeah very yeah, yeah, two wings of
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: the same bird. Ultimately, it's like both are there to
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: govern your mentality. Government govern your mind. Right, So it's like,
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: do we want you know, do we want more less
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: a fair? Well, the Republicans are supposed to be more libertarian,
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: more constitutional, more like you know, but they don't. But
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: they tend to just you know, end up spending as
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: much as as as the the Blue team.
- 1:02:59Speaker 3: So the red law ai overview in freemasonally. The trum
- 1:03:02Speaker 3: Regis Lodge is the nickname most commonly used to describe
- 1:03:04Speaker 3: the Royal arch Chapter, a branch of the York Right,
- 1:03:07Speaker 3: or a lodge that practices the first three degrees of
- 1:03:09Speaker 3: Scottish right. Name comes to the prominent use of the
- 1:03:11Speaker 3: color red and their rituals at regalia and room decorations.
- 1:03:16Speaker 3: So okay, again, everyone has to to be amazing. You
- 1:03:20Speaker 3: have to go through the Blue Lodge. You cannot do
- 1:03:22Speaker 3: the other things and gain the other badges. You cannot
- 1:03:25Speaker 3: gain the other Pokemon badges without the Blue Lodge initial badge.
- 1:03:30Speaker 3: You know.
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: Both obviously are just dependent on the same federal reserve system. Right,
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: so you could say like we've been captured by the
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: by this debt slavery, this debt slave federal reserve system
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: since nineteen thirteen, which is again right, around the time
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: that well, as we know, the income tax came in,
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: which yeah, totally unconstitutional.
- 1:03:51Speaker 3: And then also we agree with these things that he's saying, and.
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: The British bring us into their empire because you know,
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: more formally, because before that we were, you know, we
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: were not supposed to be part of the European game.
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: We focused on, you know, the doctrine was about, you know,
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: focusing on our hemisphere, right, bringing the republic, you know,
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: our republic as a model you know, for this region
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: and protecting this region from.
- 1:04:17Speaker 3: The Thank you Freder for the ten dollars super chat.
- 1:04:21Speaker 3: Occultism as cartoon demonology, collapsing symbolic, mystical initiatory traditions into
- 1:04:27Speaker 3: fear driven conspiracy narratives that recreate the exact paranoia at
- 1:04:31Speaker 3: the heart of the Satanic panic dropping bars freighter, thank
- 1:04:37Speaker 3: you for that super chat. You're you're a gentleman and
- 1:04:41Speaker 3: a scholar, and I completely agree.
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: Imperialists of Europe be it, you know, French British. I
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: mean remember during the during the Civil War Mexico, I
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: hadn't know had a coup by the French and the
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: British Empire actually could the Mexican government right around the
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: same time they were trying to install their puppet there. Yeah, yeah,
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: didn't work out. But Mexico then, you know, again there's
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: all kinds of puppeteering that goes on, as we know,
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: through the different forces financially. So that's really I think
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: the key is like America wanting to be a republic
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: independent of the European empires. With the First World War,
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: we made Wilson made a huge decision which I think
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: was a huge blunder committing us to that war. We
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: should have been an arbiter. We should have said, you know,
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: we're not in favor of either empire. We're going to
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: just arbitrate you know, a piece a peace deal and
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: should have stayed neutral. But we didn't. We committed ourselves
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: to the British Empire, and we set up obviously as
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: a result of that with the Versailles Treaty. You know
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: that so many people. The Second World War followed and
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: we you know, obviously again you can get into the
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: whole history of the finance here behind you know, Hitler
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: and rise to power, and so it was like we're
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: going to play you know, Germany against you know, the Oates,
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: who also got financial support from from US, So it's
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: it's the fin you know, it became a financiers game.
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: And that's why I say, like the power behind the
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: scenes really to me is the financial empire, and you know,
- 1:06:13Speaker 1: the roth Childs are obviously a part of that. I
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: don't think they are the be all, end all of it,
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: but they're a very important force financially. The City of
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: London is a very important force. And the Federal Reserve system,
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: which spawned from that central banking system of England. So
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: that's when we talk about like what you know, who's
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: who's the the American federal government serving it's been serving.
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: It's you know, the expansion of a debt slavery monetary system,
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: right because we're borrowing money.
- 1:06:46Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, you got anything for that?
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: Nick? Sometimes, you know, I don't know how to explain
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: this with the ship that he's saying. It's like a
- 1:07:00Speaker 2: lot of it. It's like, yeah, like some of that's
- 1:07:02Speaker 2: probably mostly true, but I just think that sometimes getting
- 1:07:06Speaker 2: lost in these type of areas that he's going into
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: keeps you away from understanding what the occult to magic is.
- 1:07:14Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like I've even said that before, Like you know,
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: originally with the show, the original co host that had
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: lux we did like a or even prior to even
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: jumping into the occult. One of the reasons why I
- 1:07:26Speaker 2: joined an Order is because I noticed or started getting
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: books on actually practicing magic. Is because I realized all
- 1:07:32Speaker 2: the shit that I was watching, you know, I learned,
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: you know, all these orders, all these names, all these
- 1:07:37Speaker 2: supposed bad people, all these things that are so you know, horrible,
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: but like, I still don't know what the fuck magic is, right,
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: you know, I got lost down the whole like negative
- 1:07:47Speaker 2: conspiracy aspect of it, I guess, And then I was like,
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. So like some of the
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: things he was getting at, it's like, yeah, I mean
- 1:07:54Speaker 2: he's probably right on some of these things, but I
- 1:07:56Speaker 2: just feel like these are like typical hit piece topics
- 1:07:59Speaker 2: to talk about the people's attention. Yeah, that's never like
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: kind of new in the conspiracy theory realm, where like,
- 1:08:08Speaker 2: you know, these are things that people would hear about
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: and be like, oh, oh, yeah, that's all to explain.
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: But I feel like it's tossed in there I think
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: is filler.
- 1:08:17Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. I think it's really important that we
- 1:08:19Speaker 3: all know that we have a strange history that certain
- 1:08:24Speaker 3: agencies through times have been built by say the you know,
- 1:08:29Speaker 3: bloodlined families, royal families and things like that, and then
- 1:08:32Speaker 3: money from the royal families have been put into certain
- 1:08:35Speaker 3: names like the Rothchilds and the Rock of Fellers and
- 1:08:39Speaker 3: the like, and upon doing so, then you know, upon
- 1:08:44Speaker 3: doing so, then they create they take other organizations and
- 1:08:46Speaker 3: they build things like the Federal Reserve Bank, International Sallements.
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: You know who the first person who you know. And
- 1:08:53Speaker 2: I'm not saying that they're not incorrect. I'm not saying
- 1:08:56Speaker 2: they're wrong, and I'm not saying it's a complete sigh up,
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: but I do find it interesting and I just wonder, like,
- 1:09:01Speaker 2: you know, if there is anything small behind it. The
- 1:09:04Speaker 2: first person to ever even give us the name Rothschild's
- 1:09:06Speaker 2: as supposedly being you know, one of the people running
- 1:09:10Speaker 2: the show was Ezra Pound Mmmm. And he also at
- 1:09:15Speaker 2: one point when he ended up being taken in for
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: treason supposedly and had a reason to come over here
- 1:09:22Speaker 2: did he put him? I think it was in St.
- 1:09:23Speaker 2: Elizabeth Hospital. I could be wrong about the name. It
- 1:09:25Speaker 2: was one of the same hospitals that m K Ltre
- 1:09:27Speaker 2: was being done.
- 1:09:29Speaker 3: That's crazy. I'm just finding out bro that they cut
- 1:09:32Speaker 3: our stream for a little bit.
- 1:09:34Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it might have been because of show in
- 1:09:35Speaker 2: the movie. I mean showing that shit.
- 1:09:38Speaker 3: Oh yeah, nice.
- 1:09:39Speaker 2: I'm surprised we made it this long day because a
- 1:09:43Speaker 2: lot of times if you uh uh, I just sorry,
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: I was reading that. Yeah yeah, yeah, so no, I
- 1:09:53Speaker 2: even just find that interesting. You know, is that because
- 1:09:55Speaker 2: like it had neither like maybe well he did have
- 1:09:57Speaker 2: it a book on the occult actually too, but like
- 1:10:01Speaker 2: did he understand that or was it like uh, I
- 1:10:04Speaker 2: don't know how to explain it, but was it kind
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: of like just twisted out they kind of like get
- 1:10:10Speaker 2: you know, catch on as like a thought.
- 1:10:13Speaker 3: Hmmm, nice, No asound. I've read a bunch of his
- 1:10:16Speaker 3: poetry too, freighter and but he's deeply integrating all these
- 1:10:18Speaker 3: things and it's quite fascinating. Well, it seems like the
- 1:10:22Speaker 3: Arconic Intelligence Agency YouTube people, I didn't like it so
- 1:10:26Speaker 3: much that we were and I said that, I said
- 1:10:29Speaker 3: it was extreame was suspended for policy violation from us
- 1:10:32Speaker 3: playing that because they're dropping too many truths. So that's
- 1:10:37Speaker 3: interesting enough. But then we're back up here, so they
- 1:10:39Speaker 3: allowed us to come back. I don't know what that means.
- 1:10:42Speaker 3: What's that mean? Do you know? Nick?
- 1:10:44Speaker 2: Yeah, probably because it's not consistent, like when you go
- 1:10:47Speaker 2: put it back up again, it might show off. Oh
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: you know, honestly, you know what I think was why
- 1:10:53Speaker 2: we got along with because I was even thinking about
- 1:10:55Speaker 2: it while we were doing the show. The reason why
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: I think you got away with it for so long
- 1:10:58Speaker 2: is because at the beginning we weren't playing too much.
- 1:11:01Speaker 2: Before we talked.
- 1:11:02Speaker 3: Oh, we were talking all yeah.
- 1:11:03Speaker 2: I was like, yo, you're stopping it so much it
- 1:11:05Speaker 2: may not even be picking it up yet.
- 1:11:07Speaker 3: Yeah. Freighter covered this yesterday and he had no and
- 1:11:10Speaker 3: no cuts. And so that's interesting that people you know,
- 1:11:12Speaker 3: watching all the way through. Yeah, who knows, well, fascinating enough.
- 1:11:17Speaker 3: You know, I think we got the gist of it,
- 1:11:18Speaker 3: and let's just, uh, well, will they tell me what
- 1:11:21Speaker 3: I did? I don't know. We'll see. We're still here.
- 1:11:24Speaker 3: So it's not like they cut it out completely. And
- 1:11:26Speaker 3: if anything, you get a claim I'm guessing like a copyright.
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: Now oh yeah, yeah, if you were to keep on
- 1:11:30Speaker 2: pushing it and doing it like you know, you came
- 1:11:33Speaker 2: back on and kept doing it, maybe eventually after a
- 1:11:35Speaker 2: few times to be like, you're a dick and now
- 1:11:37Speaker 2: you're getting a strike. This will just be an infringement.
- 1:11:39Speaker 2: They'll say it's not a strike and you just can't monetize.
- 1:11:41Speaker 3: It nice, which is fine for this day and age anyway.
- 1:11:45Speaker 3: And so this is fascinating. I really yeah, they're just
- 1:11:48Speaker 3: giving me a little warning and a magus in the
- 1:11:50Speaker 3: media no call read. Well, yeah, we we'd like to
- 1:11:54Speaker 3: push the little things here and there, and so I
- 1:11:56Speaker 3: do think it's almost a badge of honor, but we
- 1:11:58Speaker 3: do want to keep run in our mouths, just not
- 1:12:02Speaker 3: maybe on this topic. So I think we've reached our
- 1:12:05Speaker 3: end in this fine fairy tale. I think we've come
- 1:12:08Speaker 3: to understand and I hope everyone knows out there that
- 1:12:10Speaker 3: the Freemasons we shouldn't throw under the bus and always
- 1:12:14Speaker 3: want to say that they're the big bad guys when
- 1:12:17Speaker 3: they're not. Actually, I truly do believe the Masons of
- 1:12:19Speaker 3: our world, the Masonic agro Gore, is actually one that's
- 1:12:23Speaker 3: trying to help awaken humanity by awakening the individual, by
- 1:12:26Speaker 3: making good men better. And I think that's really important
- 1:12:29Speaker 3: for us all to know. Also to know that the
- 1:12:32Speaker 3: dark ocult is just that there are dark wizards out
- 1:12:35Speaker 3: there trying to or warlocks trying to put a spell
- 1:12:39Speaker 3: on all of our consciousnesses to move us into this
- 1:12:41Speaker 3: fear state so they can steal our loosh and continue
- 1:12:44Speaker 3: the farming of our data and our intelligence and our
- 1:12:49Speaker 3: own love states, right, love or love or love bombing here,
- 1:12:55Speaker 3: love maxing currently, And so you know, I just think
- 1:12:59Speaker 3: it's really import that we all know that in the
- 1:13:01Speaker 3: Freemasonic world of Hiram Abiff and the Solomon's Temple, that
- 1:13:05Speaker 3: these things should be seen as symbolic, metaphorical, allegorical, and
- 1:13:09Speaker 3: initiatory to change the consciousness of the initiat going through
- 1:13:14Speaker 3: the degrees so they can be the best person that
- 1:13:17Speaker 3: they can be. And we shouldn't fall into the fear
- 1:13:20Speaker 3: that either the scientific materialist or the fundamentalist religious individual
- 1:13:26Speaker 3: wants to continually push us towards. But by truly seeing
- 1:13:30Speaker 3: through things as they are magic in all ways, we
- 1:13:33Speaker 3: understand that magus in the media and the occult rejects
- 1:13:36Speaker 3: are here to help us with small little breadcrumbs as
- 1:13:40Speaker 3: we try to walk our way out of the cave.
- 1:13:45Speaker 3: Nick tell them where they can find you.
- 1:13:47Speaker 2: Listen, I had a blast, man, This was a lot
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: of fun. Thank you the occult rejects here on YouTube
- 1:13:53Speaker 2: as well, bit shoot Rumble in all major podcasts. I
- 1:13:58Speaker 2: did start a substack, so check that out. The'll be
- 1:14:02Speaker 2: extra shitting on there. Sometimes there'll be like early released
- 1:14:05Speaker 2: show notes before the episode drops, and you know, there'll
- 1:14:07Speaker 2: be some extra stuff on this, so check it out
- 1:14:09Speaker 2: if you're interested. And we do have a cult research
- 1:14:12Speaker 2: Institute dot org. That's a website. You can check that
- 1:14:14Speaker 2: out as well. Thank you very much.
- 1:14:16Speaker 3: Man, You're welcome, Nick. This was fantastic. I love doing this.
- 1:14:20Speaker 3: This is the this is Magason the media show. We're
- 1:14:24Speaker 3: bringing you all magic, all myth, all meaning, and all
- 1:14:28Speaker 3: philosophy at all times, and we're just gonna continue doing this.
- 1:14:32Speaker 3: I'm doing more and more shows on a daily basis.
- 1:14:34Speaker 3: Most of the time, I'm probably not going to play
- 1:14:36Speaker 3: certain things because of we're always on the edge of
- 1:14:40Speaker 3: being in trouble with the great arcons of YouTube and
- 1:14:42Speaker 3: social media and copyright strikes. So interesting enough, here we
- 1:14:47Speaker 3: are to bring the fire, the Promethean spark, the Luciferian
- 1:14:50Speaker 3: spirit as much as we can so we can understand
- 1:14:53Speaker 3: that we it is divine or bust because there's only
- 1:14:56Speaker 3: one way, and that's to bring make heaven on earth.
- 1:15:00Speaker 3: So this was fantastic. Everyone head on over to my
- 1:15:02Speaker 3: David Beth interview after this, because David Beth drops knowledge
- 1:15:07Speaker 3: on the world with his The Black Pilgrimage. I also
- 1:15:11Speaker 3: interviewed Danielle Lane, So if you haven't seen the woman
- 1:15:14Speaker 3: who is enraged with the divine passion of Aros, that
- 1:15:17Speaker 3: woman knows how to drop fucking knowledge herself. I have
- 1:15:21Speaker 3: other interviews. Colin conk write you know. I chatted with
- 1:15:25Speaker 3: him and his Universalist book is fantastic and he's trying
- 1:15:28Speaker 3: to help the cause as well as I did an
- 1:15:31Speaker 3: interview with Lon Milo Duquet. It's a good hour. I
- 1:15:34Speaker 3: got him to talk about certain things. One of the
- 1:15:37Speaker 3: massive things was Christianity is not the devil, as in,
- 1:15:41Speaker 3: it is not what we ocult to some magicians are
- 1:15:43Speaker 3: here to do to rise up and rebel against, but
- 1:15:45Speaker 3: also it is we're here to help integrate that into
- 1:15:49Speaker 3: our psyche as well as well, as he says one
- 1:15:51Speaker 3: of his biggest things is he hates it when Bella
- 1:15:54Speaker 3: might say to other people that's not thelemic and so
- 1:15:57Speaker 3: I thought that was a good thing that I got Lan.
- 1:15:59Speaker 2: To say, Wow, that's impressive actually, And I didn't.
- 1:16:02Speaker 3: Hit him to say it. I brought it up in
- 1:16:04Speaker 3: certain ways and through interview he said it himself. And
- 1:16:08Speaker 3: so Lan Milo is obviously Alan Milo Duquette is one
- 1:16:12Speaker 3: of the greats in the spheres of occultism in the
- 1:16:15Speaker 3: Western esoteric tradition.
- 1:16:17Speaker 2: Yo, people listening, go over and hit him up and
- 1:16:20Speaker 2: be like, Yo, you need to go on the Occult Rejects.
- 1:16:23Speaker 1: Yeah, I cannot.
- 1:16:23Speaker 2: I cannot get him to come on. I've tried multiple
- 1:16:26Speaker 2: ways that at this point, it's quite obvious he said no.
- 1:16:31Speaker 3: And the only reason I think he came on to
- 1:16:33Speaker 3: mind was because Wiser told him to, and so he
- 1:16:35Speaker 3: had no idea who I was. And so we just
- 1:16:37Speaker 3: did an hour and it was tight and he did
- 1:16:39Speaker 3: his good, great talks and he's a good man. His
- 1:16:41Speaker 3: book Alistair Crowley, it's his first fiction book, which was
- 1:16:47Speaker 3: I have it being sent to me, so I'm gonna
- 1:16:49Speaker 3: read it, and then we're gonna also do a show
- 1:16:52Speaker 3: on it as well, just because why not, as well
- 1:16:56Speaker 3: as I will be interviewing Angel Miller. So after the
- 1:17:00Speaker 3: make sure to make sure to check out though Cult
- 1:17:02Speaker 3: Rejects Angel Miller podcast we all did together. He's gonna talk.
- 1:17:06Speaker 3: It was fun talking to him on Saturday. But really, everyone,
- 1:17:10Speaker 3: just for me, go check out the David Beth support,
- 1:17:13Speaker 3: the press support David Beth. He's a real g and
- 1:17:17Speaker 3: a real brilliant man in this strange world of the
- 1:17:20Speaker 3: Western esoteric tradition and the straying of the occult tradition itself.
- 1:17:24Speaker 3: So thank you everybody for this fine day. Thank you Nick.
- 1:17:29Speaker 3: And if you all haven't already, subscribe, like and share
- 1:17:32Speaker 3: and realize that there is always hope in all the darkness.
- 1:17:38Speaker 3: I hope everyone has a great afternoon and good night.