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S. Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham Dies at 71 | Federal Housing Bill · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: bill Handle Here. It is Monday morning, July thirteenth, and
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  Speaker 1: we are about to enter a major heat wave.
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  Speaker 2: Is going to be hot the rest of the country.
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  Speaker 2: It is just crazy. I mean, the kind of flooding
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  Speaker 2: that's going on, the heat wave on the East Coast.
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  Speaker 2: And of course the weather up to this point has
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  Speaker 2: been super nice the last few weeks, and then again
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  Speaker 2: now comes the heat. Senator Lizzie Graham died and I
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  Speaker 2: think it was yesterday is when he died? Or was
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  Speaker 2: it Saturday that he died? Amy, she's nodding her head, Saturday,
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  Speaker 2: Saturday night, all right, Republican senator from South Carolina, one
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  Speaker 2: of them will well known senators out there. I mean
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  Speaker 2: there were a hundred senators and most of them we've
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  Speaker 2: never even heard of. But Lindsey Graham was a national figure.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of it has to do because of fact
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  Speaker 2: he was in the Senate for over thirty years. He
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  Speaker 2: was involved in foreign affairs in a big way over
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  Speaker 2: the years. A fervent American, I mean, he wore his
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  Speaker 2: patriotism on his sleeve, one of the most. He was
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  Speaker 2: an interesting background, born and raised in a small town
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  Speaker 2: in South Carolina. His parents died when he was in
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  Speaker 2: his twenties, so he got himself and his.
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  Speaker 3: Younger sister through college.
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  Speaker 2: He was a member of the ROTC, which is officers
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  Speaker 2: training and you get paid during school. During college you
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  Speaker 2: get a monthly stipend and then someone has to or
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  Speaker 2: you or whoever is doing it has to join the military.
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  Speaker 2: For number of years he became a military lawyer, served
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  Speaker 2: in West Germany during the Cold War. Great time to
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  Speaker 2: be in Germany during those during the Cold War. I me,
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  Speaker 2: your dollar went crazy and the Cold War was really cold,
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  Speaker 2: and it really was a war. He stayed in the
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  Speaker 2: reserves for two decades, traveling to working in Iraq in Afghanistan,
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  Speaker 2: not as part of the Senate, just as part of
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  Speaker 2: his deployment as a reservist. He would actually go even
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  Speaker 2: while in the Senate. One of his best best friends
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  Speaker 2: in the Senate was John McCain. They were inseferable, even
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  Speaker 2: though in sufferable, insufferable, in unseparatable, in separable, I think
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  Speaker 2: that's what I said. Even though they had different beliefs
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  Speaker 2: in many ways. And a wonderful quote from Lindsay Graham
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  Speaker 2: about John McCain in something that he disagreed with, And
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  Speaker 2: he was asked by a reporter about John McCain's vote,
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  Speaker 2: and he said, this man is a hero. This man
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  Speaker 2: was a pow. This man is a genuine American hero.
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  Speaker 2: He can vote any way he wants.
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  Speaker 3: They were close.
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  Speaker 2: He believed that we should be at the center of
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  Speaker 2: NATO and the Democratic Alliance. He described himself at twenty
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  Speaker 2: fourteen as a pragmatic politician who didn't like populist slogans.
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  Speaker 2: He said, I know Washington is broken, but what's broken
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  Speaker 2: about it is everybody yelling and nobody trying.
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  Speaker 3: To fix it. I'm trying.
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  Speaker 2: And a quick word about his death that looks like
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  Speaker 2: a tearing his a orda and they're investigating it now.
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  Speaker 2: That was a preliminary finding, and of course the conspiracy
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  Speaker 2: theorists have exploded.
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  Speaker 3: Cash Patel, head.
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  Speaker 2: Of the FBI, is now put FBI investigating his death.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, guy, let me tell you about Graham. When
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump first came out in US politics, and it
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  Speaker 2: was real alien ideology Graham and totally against what Graham
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  Speaker 2: had practiced since childhood. We have to have alliances where
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  Speaker 2: they're as head of the free world. He privately mocked
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  Speaker 2: that we're talking about. Trump probably mocked the military that
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  Speaker 2: Graham loved. He called the military suckers and losers. In
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  Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, Graham described Trump as a race baiting, xenophobic,
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  Speaker 2: religious bigot who should go to hell. Also a nutjob.
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  Speaker 2: So President Trump wins the presidency, and what happens, he says,
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  Speaker 2: never mind, I like the guy.
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  Speaker 3: He is spectacular.
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  Speaker 2: He completely decided to abandon all of his previous ideals
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  Speaker 2: and instead became a very loud follower. We're a sycophantic
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  Speaker 2: follower of the president. He played golf with Trump, made
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  Speaker 2: excuses for him on TV, backed him up no matter what,
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  Speaker 2: supported him. As Trump destroyed those alliances he was so defending.
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  Speaker 2: He of course refused to vote to convict Trump. And
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  Speaker 2: even after the results of the election and when the
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  Speaker 2: the overrunning of the capital first happened, Lindsey Graham went
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  Speaker 2: up there and really did blame Trump for it. Now
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  Speaker 2: that's changed completely. It's you know, it's a shame that
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  Speaker 2: that happened. And like every other Republican, you was very
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  Speaker 2: difficult to go against Trump because of maga. One of
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  Speaker 2: the things that Trump up to this point had the
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  Speaker 2: ability to do. I don't know from now on whether
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  Speaker 2: he does or not, is he could primary people out.
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  Speaker 2: And Lindsey Graham up for election a matter of fact,
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  Speaker 2: up for the general election come November. Well, his term
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  Speaker 2: was about to end. And now what happens, Well, the
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  Speaker 2: governor now appoints a senator, appoints someone to be senator
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  Speaker 2: until the end of the term, and there will be
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  Speaker 2: the election will happen, and Graham's name will of course
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  Speaker 2: not be on the ballot. Sometimes when someone dies before
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  Speaker 2: the name can be removed, the name appears on the ballot.
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  Speaker 2: And what happens that's fun, is that they get elected.
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  Speaker 2: Dead people get elected. And I think Graham would have
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  Speaker 2: gotten elected because he was that popular. And I think
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  Speaker 2: mainly because there are some elect some members of the electorate,
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  Speaker 2: the citizens citizenry are just stupid and don't pay attention,
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  Speaker 2: and I think others would do it as a statement
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  Speaker 2: of how much he was beloved. So Lindsey Graham, dead
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  Speaker 2: at the age of seventy one, which is way too
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  Speaker 2: young to die, had very high blood pressure, had a
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  Speaker 2: lot of plaque and as a result of that. One
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  Speaker 2: of the symptoms of very high blood pressure is euryeorda
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  Speaker 2: explodes because it weakens the AORDA.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so here's what happened. A couple days ago.
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  Speaker 2: There was and is a federal housing bill that is
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  Speaker 2: now a federal housing law, and supporters hope it's going
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  Speaker 2: to put a dent in California, mainly in the nation's
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  Speaker 2: housing shortage. It is the largest single piece of federal
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  Speaker 2: housing legislation in at least thirty years coming out of Congress,
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  Speaker 2: and the bill became law in the middle of the
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  Speaker 2: night early Saturday, without fanfare, without the president's signature. The
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  Speaker 2: vast majority of cases bills are passed because the president
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  Speaker 2: is involved, and the president signs the bills and sometimes
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  Speaker 2: signs the bills with a great deal of fanfare, has
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  Speaker 2: the table as the people behind them says, this is
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  Speaker 2: going to affect millions of people, or this is going
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  Speaker 2: to straighten out whatever problems we had. Not then, although
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  Speaker 2: it was originally set up to do exactly that the
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  Speaker 2: President was going to come. The lectern was being put up,
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  Speaker 2: the chairs were being put up in I think it
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  Speaker 2: was the East room where he was going to do it,
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  Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, a couple hours before,
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the chairs are removed, the lectern
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  Speaker 2: is removed.
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  Speaker 3: It's all done, it's all gone.
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  Speaker 2: Why well, it's a Save America Act that the President
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  Speaker 2: is pushing very hard and has to do with voter
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  Speaker 2: id and he said, I'm not signing this until Congress
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  Speaker 2: passes the Save Act. And Congress was not about to
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  Speaker 2: pass the Save Act because it's going to stall in
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  Speaker 2: the Senate. Got it in the House. I mean, Mike
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  Speaker 2: Johnson will do anything that the president wants, rolls over,
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  Speaker 2: puts his paw up, gets a treat I mean, whatever
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  Speaker 2: the president wants, Mike Johnson does, but not necessarily the Senate.
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  Speaker 2: So he just let it become law because according to
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  Speaker 2: the Constitution, if a bill is passed and the president
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  Speaker 2: does not sign it, it becomes law in ten days.
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  Speaker 3: So now what happened, Well, it's law.
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  Speaker 2: The President has made his point very clear, you don't
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  Speaker 2: pass the Save America Act. I'm not signing. What's going
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  Speaker 2: to be interesting? What else he's not going to sign?
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  Speaker 2: And here is what the bill does, not a lot.
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  Speaker 2: It has fifty six regulatory tweaks, programs, low cost loans grants,
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  Speaker 2: they're not going to move the needle because it's not
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  Speaker 2: a lot of money. Supporters say that collectively put it
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  Speaker 2: all together, it might just move the needle. We don't
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  Speaker 2: know because the numbers have to be so astronomical and
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  Speaker 2: this is little bits and pieces. So what is what's
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  Speaker 2: happening with it? Well, first of all, the reason that
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  Speaker 2: in the Senate it's the Grow or the Save America
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  Speaker 2: Act didn't pass, not the House because of Mike Johnson,
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  Speaker 2: Because there is a yes in my backyard movement, especially
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  Speaker 2: here in California where we have more experience than most
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  Speaker 2: in continuing with affordable housing because we don't have any Now,
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  Speaker 2: what's making housing more affordable if they can help? Well,
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  Speaker 2: money is given to various programs. There are some tweaks
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  Speaker 2: which I'm going to tell you about in a moment,
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  Speaker 2: but to give you an idea, And it's described as
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  Speaker 2: overwhelming support. I mean overwhelming support both the Senate and
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  Speaker 2: the House. As in the Senate for example, it was
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  Speaker 2: originated as a joint proposal by Tim Scott South Carolina,
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  Speaker 2: who is a conservative among conservative conservatives, and Elizabeth Warren,
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  Speaker 2: who's about as left wing as it can be one
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  Speaker 2: of the things. For example, would change something called the
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  Speaker 2: Community Development Block grant. This is federal money going to
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  Speaker 2: the cities for affordable housing and economic development. And with
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  Speaker 2: price the cities, well, they'll have their grant funds cut
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  Speaker 2: by ten percent, but then the savings go to municipal
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  Speaker 2: counterparts that are more effective non governmental NGOs, hoping that
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  Speaker 2: the building will be at a faster clip. Here's one
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  Speaker 2: that is kind of interesting, just to show you the
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  Speaker 2: kind of archaic rules manufactured housing. Manufacture housing are these,
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  Speaker 2: I guess trailers.
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  Speaker 3: But they don't move around very much.
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  Speaker 2: They're built on assembly lines, they're shipped to where they're needed,
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  Speaker 2: and they are affordable, and both lawmakers California, United States
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  Speaker 2: say we need those in droves. And the ones placed
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  Speaker 2: on permanent foundations are fewer than one in ten.
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  Speaker 3: They never move again.
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  Speaker 2: However, federal law says that manufactured housing includes its reference
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  Speaker 2: to mobile origins, it has to have a permanent chassis.
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  Speaker 2: Federal building codes force it to have a permanent chassis
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  Speaker 2: so it can be moved. Houses don't move, and the
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  Speaker 2: expense of building a movable foundation is astronomical compared to
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  Speaker 2: a normal foundation. So what ends up happening, there's a
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  Speaker 2: ten to twelve inch thick floor beneath the floor because
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  Speaker 2: it has to be able to be moved. Well, no,
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  Speaker 2: we don't need that. So that's one of the things
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  Speaker 2: that this bill does. It removes a permanent chassis requirement.
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  Speaker 2: That alone, according to Representative Scott Peters, Democratic San Diego, said,
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  Speaker 2: we'll expand access to one of the mostly affordable forms
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  Speaker 2: of homeowner ownership because it's thousands and thousands of dollars
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  Speaker 2: to do that. Also, the chassis business, you can't build
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  Speaker 2: multiple housing, you can't build in stacks. And also what
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  Speaker 2: happens after a natural disaster, After emergency federal dollars have
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  Speaker 2: come and gone. What Congress is doing is providing communities
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  Speaker 2: with long term rebuild than grants.
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  Speaker 3: That's new.
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  Speaker 2: So over the last decades, the program spent more than
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  Speaker 2: one hundred billion dollars on long term work of recovery,
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  Speaker 2: home construction, infrastructure repair. That money tends to be reserved
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  Speaker 2: for low income in people in communities do not bounce
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  Speaker 2: back quickly. Well, that is going to be expanded. So
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  Speaker 2: the bottom line is that this program, of which I
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  Speaker 2: think there are fifty eight provisions little bits and pieces
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  Speaker 2: put them all together, and the supporters hope that it's
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  Speaker 2: going to move the needle. The President has said that
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  Speaker 2: this housing bill is small potatoes. It's a big yawn.
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  Speaker 2: Where the voter registration bill is critical to the security
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  Speaker 2: of this country. So let me throw something at you,
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  Speaker 2: voter id how's it going to affect you. It's not
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  Speaker 2: gonna affect me. I don't think it's any.
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  Speaker 3: Big, Neil.
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  Speaker 2: The housing situation in this country is so dire. Anything
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  Speaker 2: that can help, particularly here in southern California where housing
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  Speaker 2: is downright unaffordable. Okay, before we get into a flock
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  Speaker 2: surveillance and what it is, Neil, tell us about the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, flock surveillance cameras.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've heard about flock surveillance, but
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  Speaker 2: there's some big issues because LAPD uses FLOCK surveillance or
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  Speaker 2: did they suspended them? And what they do is their
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  Speaker 2: license place readers is what they are. And the problem
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  Speaker 2: is and these are folks privacy advocates that are saying, well, okay,
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  Speaker 2: they are supposed to just be used for police purposes, surveillance,
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  Speaker 2: dealing with bad guys, people that are on the run,
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  Speaker 2: people that have committed crime, were in the middle of
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  Speaker 2: committing crime, and so a lot of concerns over who
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  Speaker 2: controls the data, how it can be shared with other agencies,
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  Speaker 2: including immigration. Now an Inspector General AUDIT is urging a
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  Speaker 2: pause on the new deployments and contracts with cities until
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  Speaker 2: privacy security oversight rules are in place. Just to give
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  Speaker 2: an idea what FLOCK does. It contracts with over five
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  Speaker 2: thousand municipalities across the country, including LAPD and San Francisco,
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  Speaker 2: San Diego, I mean all of it in La alone,
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty eight pole mounted cameras, and it
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  Speaker 2: allows the authorities track vehicles have been reported stolen or
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  Speaker 2: registered to fugitives and its Flock is only one of
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  Speaker 2: the vendors used by the city for automated license plate
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  Speaker 2: readers and boy, have they been criticized sharing data with
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  Speaker 2: state and federal officials, and advocacy groups are worried that
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  Speaker 2: the information could help the immigration crackdown.
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  Speaker 3: That's the fear. LAPD.
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  Speaker 2: Dean Giamalis, chief Information officer, told news outlets that the
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  Speaker 2: LAPD s making more protections around the information collected.
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  Speaker 3: The sticking point is around having.
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  Speaker 2: Very clear terms about who owns the data, what happens
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  Speaker 2: with the data once it's collected, and he said the
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  Speaker 2: LAPD is going to stop using flocks until we get
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  Speaker 2: those privacy security sharing concerns ironed out three year contract
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  Speaker 2: the LAPD has with Flock, but it's set to expire
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  Speaker 2: on Saturday, and LAPD officials had previously announced the City
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  Speaker 2: Attorney's office was working on drawing up a new contract,
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  Speaker 2: and one of the Flock people said Saturday's decision that
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  Speaker 2: they're holding off re signing is a surprise.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: LAPD has used license plate readers for years, and Flock
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  Speaker 2: says the technology should have strong privacy protections and oversight.
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  Speaker 2: Okay also says the technology complies with California law that
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  Speaker 2: the information not be shared with certain agencies. Well, it
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  Speaker 2: turns out the FLOCK does share with federal authorities, including ICE,
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  Speaker 2: and it has led to smaller cities just straight out
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  Speaker 2: in their relationship. Mountain View, Northern California turned off its
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  Speaker 2: thirty flock cameras in February because city officials announced that
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  Speaker 2: the federal and state law enforcement agencies had access city
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  Speaker 2: data in violation of the policy of the city. And
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  Speaker 2: as you can imagine, the demonstrators in recent months outside
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  Speaker 2: of LAPD headquarters are gathering and they demonstrate for weeks
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  Speaker 2: at a time. In the meantime, LAPD boosters, homeowner associations
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  Speaker 2: elected officials have pressured the city to increase the number
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  Speaker 2: of cameras.
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  Speaker 3: So what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I like surveillance, especially catching bad guys. At the
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  Speaker 2: same time, do I want the information shared with immigration? Well,
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  Speaker 2: there has to be a limit with how much it's
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  Speaker 2: shared with. So I'm on the side of the bad
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  Speaker 2: guys getting surveilled, and because I don't think there's much
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  Speaker 2: privacy out there, although this helps invade your privacy, but
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  Speaker 2: you know, risk versus benefit, adverse versus positive. My guess
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  Speaker 2: is once this is ironed out, we're going to go
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  Speaker 2: back to using these license plate readers.
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  Speaker 3: I just like it.
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  Speaker 2: The only time I am not in favor of license
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  Speaker 2: plate readers, and this one really gets my eyre up
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  Speaker 2: is those license plate readers that read your license at
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  Speaker 2: toll booths. I hate those. Those should be illegal going
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  Speaker 2: through toll booths, those toll roods where they read your
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  Speaker 2: license plate. And if you don't pay, or you don't
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  Speaker 2: have prepaid a prepaid card, you're screwed.
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  Speaker 5: You're a man of ethics and standards.
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  Speaker 2: Complete hypocrisy, I mean complete across the board. All right, question,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you what what do Americans old
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  Speaker 2: people fear more than death? Other than working here? Connor,
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  Speaker 2: what are you afraid more than death? Just curious because
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  Speaker 2: you're not old, but still the question still remains.
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  Speaker 6: More than death, more than death? What do you fear
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  Speaker 6: more than death? Okay, Amy, what do you fear more
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  Speaker 6: than death?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if it's more than death, because I
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  Speaker 5: think it would result in death, but it would be
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  Speaker 5: like being burned.
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  Speaker 2: Alive, burned alive, Okay, not bad, Neil more than.
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  Speaker 5: Death, anything happening to my wife or son?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough. Anne already knows because she came up
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  Speaker 2: with the story. Let me tell you what it is
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  Speaker 2: running out of money when you retire. People are more
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  Speaker 2: frightened of running out of money. This is an annual survey.
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  Speaker 2: It's a survey, of course, a Lion Center for the
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  Speaker 2: Future of Retirement. Sixty seven percent of Americans worry more
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  Speaker 2: about running out of money than dying. Not being able
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  Speaker 2: to afford healthcare is the biggest one.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: There was five recent annual surveys. Running out of the
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  Speaker 2: money always won. This year the margin was higher than ever.
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  Speaker 2: People are living longer, inflation is there, the cost of
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  Speaker 2: healthcare and long term care are rising, and people have
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  Speaker 2: no idea. Anybody who actually looks at it is going
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  Speaker 2: to realize that running out of money is a huge,
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  Speaker 2: huge issue. Do you know what you need to Let's
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  Speaker 2: say you earn fifty thousand dollars a year. Do you
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  Speaker 2: know what you need to earn fifty thousand dollars a
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  Speaker 2: year during retirement? A million dollars in your bank account,
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  Speaker 2: in your retirement fund. Who the hell has a million dollars?
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  Speaker 2: Now it doesn't count so security, so you don't need
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: quite that much. But to have a comfortable retirement. According
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  Speaker 2: to the folks that are are art Public Policy Institute
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. It's one point four million dollars so declining
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: healthcare that retires, long term care, social security cuts that
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: are going to have it happen outliving savings and investments
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: and long term care is really rising. The average assisted
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: living facility now charges sixty two hundred dollars a month.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: When my mother was in her living facility, it was
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: eight thousand dollars a month that I paid, and I
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: should have just parked her on the sidewalk. She wouldn't
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: have known the difference.
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  Speaker 5: Who can afford that?
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  Speaker 2: That's the whole point. Who can afford that? I mean,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: there are people that can. If you're dead broke, medical
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: will put you up in a place and they'll pay
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: thirty two hundred and thirty three hundred dollars a month.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: And there are facilities that accept that much money. But
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: you're two to a room. You basically people are in
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: wheelchairs in the hallway just waiting to die. The place
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: smells like you can't imagine, smells like urine. It's horrific.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Life expectancy is up. It reached seventy nine years in
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, that's I think for men, and that's
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: a record high. And longer life raises the odds of
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: outliving your money because your money doesn't go up, but
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: the cost of living goes up.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: So what do you do? Well?
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: You think about your retirement way early. I started thinking
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: about my retirement in my thirties, and I should have
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: started in my twenties. But I've spent a lot of
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: time thinking about my retirement and I've been spoiling out.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 5: Weren't you busted out and your thirty weren't you living
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: with your parents?
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: But living with my parents at thirty five was that
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: was just a stop gap. I was still making a
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: good living as an attorney. That was just yeah, I
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: just had I sold my house, had no place to
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: go and just live with my mom and dad.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Just I was going to live for a few weeks.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: I stayed a year.
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  Speaker 2: But that's the other thing that people who younger people
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: stay with their parents now because they can't afford it.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: One of the few people I know that is in
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: fact saving up and dealing with retirement in a big
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: positive way.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: You kneel, well, yeah, we try and make good decisions, but.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people, a lot of people can't
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: make good decisions because they don't have the money to
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: make good decisions. So anyway, you're more frightened of death,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I'm more frightened of having more kids like mine. The
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: thought of doing that again, I'm going to blow my
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: brains out. All right, We're done.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Coming up.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Quite often we've heard about this billionaire exodus. Billionaires are
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: leaving the state. Rich people are leaving the state because
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: taxes are too high. Boy, do I have a stat
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: that I'm going to share with you that is really
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: and that's coming up. KF I am six point forty.
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