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The Bolt Report | 28 October · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: He's the good report tonight strap in a really full show,
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  Speaker 1: another alban Easy government global warming disaster. Just nine months ago,
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: the Prime Minister went to the Giant to Margo Smelter
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  Speaker 1: and made this bost to its workers.
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  Speaker 2: This is what a future made in Australia looks like.
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  Speaker 1: But today to Margo warns it's about to shut down
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  Speaker 1: because power prices under albin Easy are too high. Plus
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  Speaker 1: the US Constitution says no, but Donald Trump refuses to
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  Speaker 1: rule that. Running for president a third time, the media
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: goes nuts for missus his real game. Also know the
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  Speaker 1: shocking pedophilia scandal that labor doesn't want investigated like it
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  Speaker 1: did when it could blame Catholics.
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  Speaker 3: Call for royal commissions whenever anything comes out immediately, They
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  Speaker 3: take years, they cost a lot of money.
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  Speaker 1: And plenty more coming up. But first you couldn't get
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  Speaker 1: a clearer example of this new apartheid that's being forced
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  Speaker 1: on Australians. The Victorian Governor has announced its finance for
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  Speaker 1: the Victorian Public Health Care Awards, and one of them
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  Speaker 1: is Saint Vincent's Hospital because it now treats patients by
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  Speaker 1: race and people claiming to be Aboriginal go to the
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  Speaker 1: head of the queue. As the government proudly explains, Aboriginal
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  Speaker 1: patients and Saint Vincen's used to have to wait longer
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  Speaker 1: for treatment, or so it says. But under this new program,
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  Speaker 1: First Nations patients are now seen more promptly than non
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  Speaker 1: Indigenous patients and that's because of apartheit in a hospital.
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  Speaker 1: Let me explain. If you are injured and you go
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  Speaker 1: to the emergency department of Saint Vincent's Hospital in Melbourne,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to be asked if you are Aboriginal. If
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  Speaker 1: you say yes, you get priority treatment. You don't even
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  Speaker 1: have to be aberage. It can be as fake as
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  Speaker 1: Bruce Pasco and so many Australians now who falsely claim
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  Speaker 1: aboriginal benefits like free medicines. You tick that box I'm aboriginal,
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  Speaker 1: and at Saint Vincent's you are automatically assigned Category three status.
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  Speaker 1: That's the third of five categories in the trianch system,
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  Speaker 1: meaning you get treatment within thirty minutes. If you say no,
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  Speaker 1: you're not aboriginal, you'll be assessed under the usual system,
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  Speaker 1: meaning you can be in Category four or five. Instead
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  Speaker 1: many you could wait hours unless you really are sick
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  Speaker 1: enough to be a three as well, or even a
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  Speaker 1: two or a one. Now this is so wrong. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is the kind of race politics that once made
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  Speaker 1: South Africa are leper in world politics. You know, boycotted
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  Speaker 1: riots against South Africa. But nowians and public servants, people
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  Speaker 1: of the left seem to think there's actually a good
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  Speaker 1: apartheid and like it or not, you are going to
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  Speaker 1: get it. Now. It's good. We did dodge a bullet
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  Speaker 1: when promise Anthony Albanezi tried too hard, try to change
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  Speaker 1: our constitution so that anyone claiming to be Aboriginal got
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  Speaker 1: more political rights, not just to vote for our politicians
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  Speaker 1: in our parliament, but another vote for a kind of
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  Speaker 1: Aboriginal advisory Parliament as well, with special powers. At sixty
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  Speaker 1: percent of Austrains, of course, voted no, and that's lucky
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  Speaker 1: for us. You can't actually change our constitution without giving
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  Speaker 1: Australians a vote a referendum. But our politicians, especially in
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  Speaker 1: Victoria and South Australia, are still pushing ahead with this
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  Speaker 1: new agenda of apartheid, and so are the bureaucrats and
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  Speaker 1: artists they finance. And you see so many signs now
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  Speaker 1: this ugly division by race. I mean. Two years ago
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  Speaker 1: many of our top arts groups started to offer mob
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  Speaker 1: tics that's an eighty percent discount for people claiming to
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  Speaker 1: be Aboriginal for tickets to events of the Cydney Opera House,
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  Speaker 1: Austram Ballet, National Gallery of Australia, Sydney Fringe Festival, Straight Open,
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  Speaker 1: and both the Sydney and Melbourne Syphony Orchestras and other
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  Speaker 1: arts events as well. The City of Melbourne even had
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  Speaker 1: posters outside as Signal Arts Studio telling whites they weren't
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  Speaker 1: welcome inside. So this is a safe black space and
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  Speaker 1: if your blood is of the seter please respect their
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  Speaker 1: request not to enter. Many universities have so called safe
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  Speaker 1: spaces too, aborige learning centers or study rooms. And this
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  Speaker 1: new apartheid is now so common that most Austraians now
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  Speaker 1: just blindly accept that. We also have sports teams picked
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  Speaker 1: on race by our top football codes, so that we
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  Speaker 1: see actual competitions of race pitted against race. I mean
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  Speaker 1: it's obscene. More seriously, of course, South Australia two years
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  Speaker 1: ago created his own Aboriginal Learning Advisory Parliament, the first
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  Speaker 1: Nation's voice the Parliament, and Victoria has his own First
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  Speaker 1: People's Assembly of people identifying as Aboriginal, supposedly representing other
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  Speaker 1: people identifying as Aboriginal, of whom just eight percent in
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  Speaker 1: Victoria who can vote actually bother to. That's how undemocratic
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  Speaker 1: this race politics is. It's South Australian voice got only
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  Speaker 1: ten percent turnout. What's more, Victoria's Parliament is expected to
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  Speaker 1: vote this week for a treaty and yet more powers
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  Speaker 1: for that first Nation's Assembly, first People's Assembly, and what
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  Speaker 1: follows from that. Look you can only guess, but it
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  Speaker 1: isn't going to be good. I mean, preferential hospital treatment
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  Speaker 1: for one race. That's just the taste of what's the come.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure why not, I don't know. Preferential ambulance treatment
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  Speaker 1: depending on your race, preferential school enrollment, perhaps lower taxes
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  Speaker 1: for one race. Look the whole thing, it's essentially evil.
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  Speaker 1: It really is evil, dividing us by race. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: has any of this agenda brought Australians together do you
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  Speaker 1: think in the last decade or two? Or has it
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  Speaker 1: in fact driven us a part more and more? That's apartheid.
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  Speaker 1: It really does set people at each other's throats. Joining
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  Speaker 1: me is Georgie Crozier, the Opposition Health spokeswoman in Victoria,
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  Speaker 1: Georgie Crazier, thank you so much for your time a
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  Speaker 1: public hospital treating patients by race and even boasting about
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  Speaker 1: it like it's got to get an award.
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  Speaker 4: You know your response, well, Andrew, I, when I learned this,
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  Speaker 4: I was quite shocked because I'm a former nurse and
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  Speaker 4: my experience is that you know, when somebody walks through
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  Speaker 4: that emergency department and you are triache a patient, you
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  Speaker 4: don't judge them other than their health and medical needs
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  Speaker 4: and you treat them on that basis. So you know,
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  Speaker 4: triache is about risk assessment and having a look at
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  Speaker 4: the issues surrounding that patient, and you know, you don't
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  Speaker 4: judge it based on the color of your skin or race.
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  Speaker 4: And this is what we've got happening in Melbourne. It's
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  Speaker 4: just a glimpse of what just into Allen's treaty is
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  Speaker 4: going to do to Victorians. It's going to divide Victorians
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  Speaker 4: and I don't think it's a good thing. I think
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  Speaker 4: it is going to cause more problems than perhaps the
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  Speaker 4: intent of what they are trying to do here.
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  Speaker 1: It's just extraordinary to me. Georgia, the hospital and the government.
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  Speaker 1: The premiere says oh, look, this policy has actually fixed
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  Speaker 1: the problem. They claim to have found that people identifying
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  Speaker 1: as Aboriginals that tended to wait longer in emergency for treatment. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why, if it's true, or even why
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  Speaker 1: they were you know, I'm sure the doctors and nurses
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  Speaker 1: weren't going around saying you were average. Will go to
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  Speaker 1: the backboard of the queue. But you buy that excuse.
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  Speaker 4: No, And I think there are massive issues here, Andrew.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, of course, you know, indigenous status is part
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  Speaker 4: of that risk profile that you're doing when you're assessing.
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  Speaker 4: But to say that it's bringing the numbers down, well,
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  Speaker 4: we don't really have evidence of the outcomes for those patients.
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  Speaker 4: Are they being referred on to further support? And of
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  Speaker 4: course what's happening now is that the Allen Lober government
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  Speaker 4: is shutting down Collingwood co Health, which actually cares for
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  Speaker 4: thousands of vulnerable Victorians, many of these Indigenous Victorians in
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  Speaker 4: their primary and community care needs. They're shutting that down
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  Speaker 4: just a short space away from Saint Vincent's and where
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  Speaker 4: are those where are those people going to go for
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  Speaker 4: basic care? They will flood into Saint Vincent's Hospital. And
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  Speaker 4: the other thing i'd say, is it's going to cause
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  Speaker 4: a bit of chaos in terms of who's determining who's indigenous.
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  Speaker 4: How do you how can you actually qualify that if
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  Speaker 4: everybody decides that, well, they're going to be prioritized first,
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  Speaker 4: I'll just say I'm indigenous. I think it's setting it
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  Speaker 4: up our health system, not only dividing our health system,
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  Speaker 4: but it's setting it up to cause absolute chaos within
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  Speaker 4: the health system and causing more problems around those wait times.
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  Speaker 4: And that again goes to the impacts of the Ala
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  Speaker 4: Labor government overseeing a health system that has been under
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  Speaker 4: huge pressure and crisis because they have not managed it
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  Speaker 4: properly over many, many years.
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  Speaker 1: Well, look, you're not saying anything there that I've heard
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  Speaker 1: quite a number of Aboriginal leaders say too, that they
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  Speaker 1: already Aboriginal only services are being absolutely roughted like student
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  Speaker 1: placements or student grants, medicines and things by people who
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  Speaker 1: are not Aboriginal claiming they are. And this will I think, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: why wouldn't you, Why wouldn't you say you're Aboriginal. Georgia Crozier,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much indeed for you time, really appreciated
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  Speaker 1: and as Georgie crows. You said, you know, this is
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  Speaker 1: the kind of thing that you'll probably get more of
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  Speaker 1: with this new treaty. And we'll talk about that treaty
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  Speaker 1: in Victoria later in the show. That it really is
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  Speaker 1: red hot. But let's go to something else that really
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  Speaker 1: is alarming today, alarming news and makes you wonder how
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  Speaker 1: much longer the Coalition can dither about scrapping Australia's promise
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  Speaker 1: the cut emissions of carbon diox to zero net by
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  Speaker 1: twenty fifty because you look at this latest disaster today
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  Speaker 1: from the Albanizi governments and at zero schemes. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: every week I give you more. Just last January, the
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  Speaker 1: Prime Minister went to the giant Tomago aluminium smelter in
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  Speaker 1: New South Wales, the Hunter Valley and told this twelve
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  Speaker 1: hundred workers that the smelter was a great example of
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  Speaker 1: his Made in Australia's scheme, which actually is a scheme
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  Speaker 1: to spend billions of taxpas dollars are green power and
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  Speaker 1: other green green schemes to stop this global warming whatever,
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  Speaker 1: like a plan for supposedly green aluminium.
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  Speaker 2: This is what a future Made in Australia looks like.
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  Speaker 2: Us taking the products that come out of the ground
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  Speaker 2: in Wheeper at the baux Site mine, making sure that
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  Speaker 2: work occurs at Gladstone, and then the final product comes
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  Speaker 2: out here at Tomago.
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  Speaker 1: This is what a future made in Australia looks like,
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  Speaker 1: says the pro Miniter of the people at Tomago. Has
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  Speaker 1: labor not is behind him going Well, what it now
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  Speaker 1: looks like is to Margo facing collapse, facing closure unless
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  Speaker 1: it's given massive, massive government handoutse because electricity prices under
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  Speaker 1: this Albanizi government have exploded and the government's green energy
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  Speaker 1: simply isn't there to use. Instead, as the Margo's boss
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  Speaker 1: put it, unfortunately, all market proposals receive so far show
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  Speaker 1: future energy prices are not commercially viable and there is
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  Speaker 1: significant uncertainty about when renewable projects will be available at
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  Speaker 1: the scale we need. And let me tell you, the
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  Speaker 1: more renewables you get, the more expensive they'll be. That's
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  Speaker 1: been the international example. The tendency is quite pronounced. Opposition
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  Speaker 1: leader Susan Lee asked the key question today, leaving Bone
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  Speaker 1: babbling about how the Opposition was just gloating.
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  Speaker 5: How can labor promise a future made in Australia when
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  Speaker 5: all it actually delivers is future shutdowns, future job losses
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  Speaker 5: and higher energy prices.
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  Speaker 1: What we won't do.
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  Speaker 6: What you are not here, any one member of this
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  Speaker 6: government do is stand at this dispatch box and celebrate
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  Speaker 6: the death of manufacturing jobs in this country.
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  Speaker 7: I'm old enough to remember that happening.
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  Speaker 1: I'm old enough to have been.
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  Speaker 8: Sitting there when a treasure of Australia's go to manufacturing
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  Speaker 8: to leave this country.
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  Speaker 6: I remember what that was like and it won't happen
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  Speaker 6: on our watch.
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  Speaker 1: But Chris, it is happening. Your power prices are killing
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  Speaker 1: our heavy industry. China will soon be doing aluminium smelting instead.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me is National cenator in Matt Canavan, the former
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  Speaker 1: Resources Minister, Matt Canavan. Thanks you, Tom. What does this
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  Speaker 1: to maago announcement? Till you.
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  Speaker 6: Well Andrew? The green energy chickens are coming home to roost.
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  Speaker 6: We've been promised now for years that green energy would
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  Speaker 6: lead to lower power prices, that it would save Australian manufacturing.
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  Speaker 6: In fact, it would lead to a new renaissance. We
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  Speaker 6: will promise to extra investment in critical minerals, in rare earths,
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  Speaker 6: in hydrogen, remember that hydrogen all Thanks to the wonders
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  Speaker 6: of wind and solar energy, and right now we're finding
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  Speaker 6: out that the reality, the lived reality of renewable energy bites,
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  Speaker 6: bites very badly. And it's very sad for the looking
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  Speaker 6: like a thousand odd workers there in the Hunter Valley
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  Speaker 6: that face a loss of their job because the labor
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  Speaker 6: government here in Canberra has made promises that it can't keep.
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  Speaker 6: Now what we hear from this government is the kind
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  Speaker 6: of management gobbledegook that a once proud labor party would
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  Speaker 6: have ridiculed, would have laughed at, because whenever we have
• 14:26
  Speaker 6: seen those manufacturing downturns in previous years, you always get
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  Speaker 6: consultants and bosses of big companies talking of rationalization, globalization, downsizing,
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  Speaker 6: and it's just all excuses to sack people and put
• 14:42
  Speaker 6: them on the streets. Now we have a labor government,
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  Speaker 6: a labor government that revels in language like the global
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  Speaker 6: energy transition.
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  Speaker 1: What the hell does that mean?
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  Speaker 6: What does that mean for any of these thousand families
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  Speaker 6: that are now critics where they may not have a job.
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  Speaker 6: It's just absolutely absurd that the Labor Party now, it's
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  Speaker 6: just very sad that a proud labor party used to
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  Speaker 6: stand up for workers is reduced now to this corporate
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  Speaker 6: gobbledygoop that means nothing to anybody, is not delivering results.
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  Speaker 1: There is no global energy revolution of any kind, transition
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  Speaker 1: or whatever they want to call it. The world is
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  Speaker 1: using more cold than ever. I mean, seriously. And the
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  Speaker 1: crazy thing here, Matt about this, I think the whole
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  Speaker 1: agenda is to cut our emissions. Now you've got to
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  Speaker 1: Marga and so many other smelters. Well, they're exactly what
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  Speaker 1: should be the first to go under a program designed
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  Speaker 1: to do that, because they are the biggest users of electricity,
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  Speaker 1: the biggest emitters in the country. But now that they
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  Speaker 1: are closing as a consequence of policies to close heavy emitters,
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: now the federal and state government think, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: this is too embarrassing. They're offering massive subsidies investments to
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  Speaker 1: these smelters to try to stay open in Wayala, the
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  Speaker 1: smelter in Mount Azer in Bell Bay, Tamaga. I mean
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  Speaker 1: this is madness, isn't it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Look it gets worse, Andrew.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, the.
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  Speaker 6: Precise cause, the imminent cause here of this terrible situation
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  Speaker 6: at Tomogo is the collapse in our energy competitiveness. The
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  Speaker 6: force feeding of too much renewable energy into our electricity grid.
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  Speaker 6: But over the longer term, here we have this absurd
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  Speaker 6: situation that your government, the labor government, is placing a
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  Speaker 6: carbon tax on facilities like tom Ago. Tom Ago is included,
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  Speaker 6: but they have something called the safeguard mechanism. We're over
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  Speaker 6: two hundred factories and mines and other terrible things that
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  Speaker 6: produce jobs and wealth for our country. They're asked to
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  Speaker 6: pay a carbon tax to reduce their emissions by five
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  Speaker 6: percent a year. And most of those firms have to
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  Speaker 6: go and buy carbon credits to meet those reductions. They
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  Speaker 6: place a cost on their doing business. And as you say,
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  Speaker 6: after imposing those costs, after effectively imposing a tax on
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  Speaker 6: wealth creation, at tax on manufacturing, when that threatens the
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  Speaker 6: viability of these institutions, the government comes along and is
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  Speaker 6: coming along now and throwing billions of dollars of taxpayer support,
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  Speaker 6: taxpayer pond support to try and keep them open. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: the government doesn't know whether it's Arthur or Martha here.
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  Speaker 6: Want to put a tax on businesses that you want
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  Speaker 6: to keep going and want to keep being viable. It
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  Speaker 6: makes no sense at all, and it certainly makes no
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  Speaker 6: sense for Australia to be imposing these emission reductions, the
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  Speaker 6: costs of these emission reductions on Australians when we are
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  Speaker 6: doing so, our mission cuts are about double what the
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  Speaker 6: developed world is doing. Not China and India, let's leave
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  Speaker 6: them to one side. They're going. They're just going, like
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  Speaker 6: the clapp is right on emissions. But even if you
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  Speaker 6: compare us some benchmarkers to the US, to Japan, to Korea,
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  Speaker 6: to Europe, we are doing double what those countries are doing.
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  Speaker 6: Why when the govern announced it's twenty thirty five targets,
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  Speaker 6: Matt Keane said that we have a higher ambition than
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  Speaker 6: other advanced economies. Why why are we punishing the Australian people.
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  Speaker 6: Why are we punishing Australian workers to go harder and
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  Speaker 6: faster than the rest of the world on this issue.
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  Speaker 6: It doesn't help the environment at all. It just is
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  Speaker 6: losting Australian jobs.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, the more smelters the government props
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  Speaker 1: up to make, say open, there are other companies then
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  Speaker 1: that aren't so heavily unionized. That's the key here, Matt.
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  Speaker 1: That must close because we've got to cut a missions
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  Speaker 1: according to the government. So who who Which companies then
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  Speaker 1: have to pay the price? Matt. I don't think now
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  Speaker 1: that the Liberals have got any option but to scrap
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  Speaker 1: the net zero target. I mean, look, look, it's a
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  Speaker 1: target rich environment at the moment, Kevin Rudd. Matt is
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  Speaker 1: back in Australia, and that's after Donald Trump, of course
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  Speaker 1: told him a couple of weeks ago at the meeting
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  Speaker 1: with our Prime minister, he'd never like our ambassador to Washington,
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  Speaker 1: never like Rudd, never would. Rudd was questioned a couple
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: of hours ago about his relationship with Trump. This is
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  Speaker 1: have a listen to this.
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  Speaker 7: A good thank you do.
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  Speaker 8: I haven't seen you for a while. It's good to
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  Speaker 8: be back in Canberra. I'm here with the Trade Minister.
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  Speaker 8: We're speaking to a gathering of Australian business who want
• 19:01
  Speaker 8: to do a lot of business, investment and trade with
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  Speaker 8: the United States, and that's what we're here to do.
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  Speaker 7: It's it good to have patch things up with President Trump.
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  Speaker 7: He doesn't forget people who.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Quotes well, do you know something.
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  Speaker 8: You know what I think is that the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 8: had an excellent meeting with the President the United States
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  Speaker 8: and we're here to do a job it's it.
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  Speaker 7: Good to have patch things up with him.
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  Speaker 4: Mister upp what do you think of those comments from
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  Speaker 4: Donald Trump that he doesn't forget people who quote safe, Well.
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  Speaker 8: You know what I would say is that I'm from
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  Speaker 8: America and I'm here to help, and my name's Kevin.
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  Speaker 1: Is here to help, Matt. Let's not forget that. Kevin
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  Speaker 1: Ruders is one who first said Global Woman's a great
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  Speaker 1: moral challenge of our time. Had an the mission's reduction
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  Speaker 1: scheme that he said at the time it costs us
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  Speaker 1: the average is around the dollar a year of What
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: a joke that was. He's here to help. Is that
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: good news?
• 19:49
  Speaker 9: Well?
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: I think what was mostly interesting about that is the
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: guy next to Kevin's a guy called Don Farrell, the
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: leader of the government sorry deput leader the Government Senate.
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: He's got an instring relationship with Kevin. I think he
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: was enjoying that more than anyone else. He may even
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: call them media and told them they'd be there.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: To arrange that.
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: Who knows, but look, but look. I wish Kevin all
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: the best, Andrew always have. I want to see Australia
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: succeed on the world stage. He's an Australian ambassador. I
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: hope he does well. And look, the deal that was
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: done last week was good. But as I said last week,
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: the best deal for an international agreement is always its
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: first day. The real test comes when you have to
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: implement it, that the rubber hits the road. And going
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: back to rarely discussion, I'm very concerned here that the
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: government's promised a lot to deliver rare earths of the
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: critical minerals for the American government. But if we can't
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: have competitive energy prices, we're not going to be able
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: to succeed in the metals manufacturing markets that we need
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: to control to reduce the grip of the Chinese Commis party.
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: It's not just about digging stuff out out of the ground.
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: We have to succeed in the processing of those minerals
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: to supply useful products to America. And while ever we
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: have some of the high power prices in the world,
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: that is going to be nigh on impossible. So the
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: government needs to fix that solution if we're really going
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: to contribute to resilient supply chains in the free world.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Let me absolutely endorse and underline that point. Matt. Let's
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: not forget the reason China corners the world production of
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: these rare earth minerals is. One of the reasons is
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: that it has plentiful, cheap coal fired power, and that
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: is one reason. It invested in coal fired power for
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Indonesia for the same reason, and that helped wipe out
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: our nickel industry, including nickel smelters completely. And now we're
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: going to be in the rare earths business.
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: Believe we send them out, we send them our coal
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: to do that, all right, send it to them.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Honestly, the further you go in this, the matter it is. Mcanavan,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time. After the break,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump sensus hate is mad by refusing to rule
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: out running for a third time as president despite a
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: constitutional ban. Is he really a dictator or playing a
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: clever game? The answer after this, I bet you thought
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump was so nice to Anthony Albanezi at they're
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: meeting a couple of weeks ago. Turns out that's nothing
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: compared to the love the US President gave to Japan's
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: new and very conservative Prime Minister, Sanae Takiyashi Takaichi. I'll
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: get used to that today when they met to sign
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: a deal to send the US the rare earths it
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: needs for defense. Hey, that's a deal like we had
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: among other things. It's China threat. Just listen now to this.
• 22:50
  Speaker 9: I have always had a great love of Japan and
• 22:53
  Speaker 9: a great respect of Japan, and I will say that
• 22:57
  Speaker 9: this will be a relationship that will be stronger than
• 23:00
  Speaker 9: ever before, and I look forward to working with you
• 23:02
  Speaker 9: and on behalf of our country. I want to just
• 23:06
  Speaker 9: let you know anytime you have any question, any doubt,
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: anything you want, any favors you need, anything I can
• 23:13
  Speaker 9: do to help Japan, we will be there. We are
• 23:16
  Speaker 9: an ally at the strongest level, and it's a great
• 23:19
  Speaker 9: honor to be with you, especially so early in what
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: will be I think one of the greatest prime ministers.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I think you will be one of the greatest.
• 23:27
  Speaker 9: Everything I know from Shinzo and others, you will be
• 23:29
  Speaker 9: one of the great prime ministers.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Trump offering to do favors and not just demanding them.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I tell you that alliance between two very powerful democracies
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: is critical, particularly with the China threat. But for much
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: of the media, the attention is actually on what Trump
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: said on board is air Force one. He wasn't ruling
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: out define the US constitutional ban and running for a
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: third term as present. I would, I would, I would
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: love to do it. I have my best numbers. Ever,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: it's very terrible.
• 24:06
  Speaker 9: I have my best nubb rest.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Did you read it? Am? I not rolling it out
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: until you'll have to tell me. Actually, his poll numbers
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: are slide and I never mind that Q the anti
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Trump hysterics.
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: You know who told us he was going to be
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: a dictator on day one, and damn if he isn't
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: a dictator.
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: I turned to all that years ago.
• 24:30
  Speaker 10: He told me he was not going anyway. He had
• 24:33
  Speaker 10: he said it, he said, I want to be president
• 24:36
  Speaker 10: for life.
• 24:37
  Speaker 11: This is a guy who's got authoritarian envy.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Now is it really true to me? You know? Is
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: it Dictator Donald Trump? Joining me as a man who
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: knows Trump well? Sean Spicer, Trump's first White House spokesman,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Sean Spicer, Great to see you again. Look it's Donald
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Trump just I don't know, trolling them media, pulling their
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: chain or does he really hope to run for a
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: third term as president?
• 25:06
  Speaker 10: Well, first of all, Andrew, it's great to see you
• 25:07
  Speaker 10: back again. I missed you. Not that James didn't do
• 25:11
  Speaker 10: a fantastic job in your place, but it's good to
• 25:13
  Speaker 10: see you.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Look.
• 25:15
  Speaker 10: I think it's not just the media. He loves screwing
• 25:18
  Speaker 10: with the left in this which the media is just
• 25:20
  Speaker 10: a subset of for him. This is fun. I think
• 25:23
  Speaker 10: he enjoys being president. I think he doesn't want anyone
• 25:26
  Speaker 10: to think he's going to stop. And that's part of it.
• 25:29
  Speaker 10: Is the strategy is to keep them guessing. Is he
• 25:31
  Speaker 10: really going to try to run again? Do we have
• 25:34
  Speaker 10: to worry about him staying on? Is he going to
• 25:36
  Speaker 10: still be the force to be reckoned with? But the
• 25:38
  Speaker 10: bottom line is he loves to keep them guessing. And
• 25:41
  Speaker 10: that's the fun part about it.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: That's a very interesting point I hadn't considered, because, of course,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: normally your last term is your lame duck tern. But
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: if people fear, they all hope that it's going to
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: be a third term, and that sort of WANs a
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: bit very interesting.
• 26:00
  Speaker 10: It's not just the left. He wants the folks on
• 26:01
  Speaker 10: the right to have a little bit of fear that
• 26:04
  Speaker 10: they shouldn't start maybe thinking about running if they don't
• 26:07
  Speaker 10: know that he's ruled it out. So it's not just
• 26:10
  Speaker 10: it's trolling the folks on the left and the media,
• 26:13
  Speaker 10: but it's also keeping the folks on the right at bay.
• 26:17
  Speaker 10: So if you're thinking of running for president, you better
• 26:20
  Speaker 10: be careful about even putting that toe in the water
• 26:23
  Speaker 10: until you know for certain what the answer is.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Very good, well, just because I was wondering why he
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: would do it when it all feeds into this, Oh
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Trump is a dictator sort of mean that is on
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: the left. And this goes to another point that he made.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: You know, he said that it's never had such good
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: poll numbers, so why you know, all that kind of thing.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: But I don't know if that's true, Sean, because the
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: polls that I see, the rest Willson, Paul Nate Silver's poll,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: of all the polls, they all show a fall in
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: his support most people, more people don't support him than do.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: What's going on there?
• 27:01
  Speaker 10: Do you think the base has never been stronger? So
• 27:04
  Speaker 10: while the overall number, Donald Trump knows that his base
• 27:07
  Speaker 10: is one hundred percent behind him and that's rock solid,
• 27:11
  Speaker 10: so that wherever he goes, whatever he decides, they will
• 27:14
  Speaker 10: follow him. And I think that's that's kind of what
• 27:17
  Speaker 10: is really important here. In the first term, you know,
• 27:21
  Speaker 10: it was members of Congress and people on the base
• 27:23
  Speaker 10: that pushed back against him on some of his policies,
• 27:26
  Speaker 10: some of the ideas that he had this time. People
• 27:29
  Speaker 10: are marching in lockstep with him, and I think that
• 27:32
  Speaker 10: there's a big difference to some degree between the overall
• 27:35
  Speaker 10: poll number, which I think he sometimes wants you to
• 27:38
  Speaker 10: you know, he does a little bit of slight a hand,
• 27:40
  Speaker 10: but more importantly the base when it comes to whether
• 27:43
  Speaker 10: or not he would get the nomination again, I don't
• 27:45
  Speaker 10: think there's any question about that.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump is going to have his first big sit
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: down in years now with China's prisident Jijing Ping. That's
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: south in South Korea on Friday and our time. The
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: US and China in the middle of a huge trade war,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: huge tariffs and all this kind of battle. They've also
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: of course in a battle for world power. China is
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: also restricting very critically the rare earth minerals that the
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: US needs for its defense force in particular. So things
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: are pretty pretty frau. What are you expecting?
• 28:25
  Speaker 10: I think you're absolutely right on the rare earth minerals,
• 28:27
  Speaker 10: which is why, in fact, you know, we had what
• 28:30
  Speaker 10: I always thought was an excellent, above average meeting with
• 28:34
  Speaker 10: your Prime minister that I think went better than expected.
• 28:37
  Speaker 10: And why President Trump continues to meet with other Asian
• 28:41
  Speaker 10: leaders and Canadian leaders about rare earth minerals because and
• 28:46
  Speaker 10: I think that plays into China, which is they realize
• 28:48
  Speaker 10: that in the short term they may have the vast
• 28:51
  Speaker 10: majority of rare earth minerals that are critical to our economy,
• 28:54
  Speaker 10: but they see that the US is already looking to
• 28:56
  Speaker 10: decouple and find other sources. I have high exps for
• 29:00
  Speaker 10: this meeting with President she I think this is going
• 29:03
  Speaker 10: to be a big win for the United States. And
• 29:05
  Speaker 10: I think that President Trump is going to have a
• 29:07
  Speaker 10: lot to say and a lot to show the American
• 29:10
  Speaker 10: people when he returns from this three country stop.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: And of course, if those tensions within the US and
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: China is particularly the trade tensions, that can only be
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: good for the rest of the world too. He's also
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: thinking meeting the North Korean dictator. I'm not sure if
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: that's going to happen or not. What's the story here.
• 29:30
  Speaker 10: If you had asked me this twenty four hours ago,
• 29:32
  Speaker 10: I might have given you a pretty solid no. I'm
• 29:35
  Speaker 10: starting to think that there's a good possibility that it happens.
• 29:38
  Speaker 10: He's in South Korea. It's not often you're in South Korea,
• 29:42
  Speaker 10: and so the ability to get to the demilitarized zone
• 29:45
  Speaker 10: and have a quick bilateral meeting with Kim Jong on,
• 29:49
  Speaker 10: isn't that out of the question, And to be honest
• 29:51
  Speaker 10: with you, I think more of it than anything else
• 29:54
  Speaker 10: comes down to just building on a personal relationship, keeping
• 29:57
  Speaker 10: the lines of communications open with a nuclear power that
• 30:01
  Speaker 10: previously doesn't have a lot of back and forth with US. So,
• 30:06
  Speaker 10: you know, to Trump, I think it's a little bit
• 30:07
  Speaker 10: of a point of personal pride that he had that
• 30:10
  Speaker 10: meeting with Kim Jong on, that relationships have sort of
• 30:14
  Speaker 10: warmed a little bit more than they say. We're both
• 30:16
  Speaker 10: in the b Obama administration before Trump's first term and
• 30:19
  Speaker 10: then during the Biden administration that he's that he's following.
• 30:23
  Speaker 10: So it's a little bit of personal pride, and it's
• 30:25
  Speaker 10: also a little bit of national security.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting that if that happens, he'll have met
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: within twenty four hours or whatever it is the leaders
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: of the two countries which are most keeping Russia in
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: the game in its war in Ukraine North Korea with weapons,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: China with diplomatic and secondary kind of help as well.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: So we shall see if that has.
• 30:49
  Speaker 10: But don't you think that's brilliant.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Well, I really to see results, Sean.
• 30:54
  Speaker 7: I agree.
• 30:55
  Speaker 10: Sometimes there's a little bit of chess going on here
• 30:57
  Speaker 10: that we're not seeing, and I think that's to be
• 30:59
  Speaker 10: honest with you, there's a lot of questions in the
• 31:01
  Speaker 10: United States right now whether or not the real big
• 31:05
  Speaker 10: ask of China will be to back off of Russia.
• 31:08
  Speaker 10: I'm skeptical of that. When I talk to a lot
• 31:10
  Speaker 10: of people close to the Trump administration who otherwise wouldn't be,
• 31:14
  Speaker 10: they feel a lot more optimistic that we may get
• 31:16
  Speaker 10: something out of these negotiations with China that was unexpected,
• 31:21
  Speaker 10: in that being some kind of commitment as far as
• 31:25
  Speaker 10: what they will do to keep Russia and check again,
• 31:28
  Speaker 10: I've got my fingers crossed high hopes. I think that
• 31:32
  Speaker 10: it would be a huge, huge game changer, though, especially
• 31:35
  Speaker 10: when it comes to isolating Putin and you talk about
• 31:38
  Speaker 10: meeting two of the three real big dictators. The only
• 31:40
  Speaker 10: thing you've now done. You've talked, I ran down, You've
• 31:43
  Speaker 10: met with China, hopefully gotten a deal, met with Kim
• 31:45
  Speaker 10: Jong un, you got a deal. You've really started to
• 31:47
  Speaker 10: isolate Putin at that point.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Well to that point, of course, Donald Trump has imposed
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: the very strict sanctions on Russia's too big export earning
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: oil companies and wanted China and India to stop buying
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: their oil and that to cut off putin finances at
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: the knees. So yeah, look, you may be absolutely correct.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Your and Spice are always great to talk to you.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Thanks for your time.
• 32:13
  Speaker 10: Good to see and I'll see you next week.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: After the break. It's not just about preferential treatment by
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: race at hospitals. Australian said no to divining uspur a race,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: but victorious government didn't give the message and it's about
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: to force through something much more radical and dangerous than
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: even the voice I mentioned at the top of the show,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: how one hospital in Melbourne is now treating patients by race.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Aboriginal patients in emergency automatically assigned to category three in
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: the tree arch system, ahead of patients in categories four
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: or five. But this week's State Parliament is expected to
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: pass a treaty bill to give even more special rights
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: to the one percent of Victorians to say they're Aboriginal.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: And I fear this bill is going to inspire labor
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: governments in every state unless the dangers are exposed. Now
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: this bill aims to set up a body called Gelong
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Wall or whatever to be paid more than seventy million
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: dollars a year, and it's going to be made up
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: of this the first People's Assembly that really exists, a
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: kind of aboraginal advisory parliament, but with extra powers, plus
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: a justice arm and a truth telling arm that I
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: guarantee is not going to be about pushing truth but propaganda.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Join me is Lanicolaris. She's just am barrister and a
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: member of the Victorian Bar Council and she has checked
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: what all this actually means and she's got very worried. Lanicolaris,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time. What is this
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: bill really trying to do?
• 33:45
  Speaker 11: Well, thank you Andrew. What this bill is doing is
• 33:48
  Speaker 11: it is seeking to create a new state within our state,
• 33:53
  Speaker 11: an indigenous only government that exists separately from, but together
• 33:58
  Speaker 11: with our state or within our state. It is essentially
• 34:01
  Speaker 11: a co governance structure. And once that mechanism you set up,
• 34:05
  Speaker 11: whereby we have the co governance structure, it will then
• 34:09
  Speaker 11: seek to have a transference of power to it by
• 34:13
  Speaker 11: way of treaties. So it's called a statewide treaty bill,
• 34:17
  Speaker 11: but it's actually setting up this co governance structure. The
• 34:20
  Speaker 11: first set of powers will be transferred by way of
• 34:23
  Speaker 11: the first Treaty, and we will see many many more
• 34:26
  Speaker 11: treaties to come whereby more powers will be transferred over
• 34:29
  Speaker 11: to it.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Now non average of Victorians obviously won't be able to
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: vote for this first People's Assembly, but this very supercharge
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Assembly will have a say over or in the ninety
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: nine percent of Victorians who aren't Aboriginal. What powers do
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: you think it's going to have over the State Parliament.
• 34:50
  Speaker 11: So, in respect of the State Parliament, because it is
• 34:53
  Speaker 11: a co governance structure, any bill, no matter what the
• 34:56
  Speaker 11: bill is about, the member who introduces that bill must
• 35:00
  Speaker 11: consult with this new Indigenous state within our state. So
• 35:05
  Speaker 11: that's in respect of how it will affect State Parliament.
• 35:08
  Speaker 11: But the powers go much further than just State Parliament.
• 35:12
  Speaker 11: In respect of every state government department. Guidelines must be
• 35:17
  Speaker 11: developed in consultation with this new body for everything including health, education, justice,
• 35:25
  Speaker 11: and guidelines need to be implemented that address everything that
• 35:29
  Speaker 11: is in the first State wide Treaty and all the
• 35:31
  Speaker 11: further treaties to come, which of course we don't know
• 35:34
  Speaker 11: what they will include at this point.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: It's really strange. There's also going to be a truth
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: telling arm of this new body that can dictate what
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: version of history should be taught. But can that version
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: be forced on us? I mean, I can see the
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: government imposing it on schools, but beyond that, well.
• 35:55
  Speaker 11: It certainly will be forced upon our children. Just alluded to,
• 36:01
  Speaker 11: So children from prep to year ten will have to
• 36:06
  Speaker 11: be taught what is called truth telling, and truth telling
• 36:09
  Speaker 11: will be based upon the report of the europ Justice Commission. Now,
• 36:13
  Speaker 11: any person worth their salt knows that the europ Justice Commission,
• 36:17
  Speaker 11: the proceedings before that body were not conducted in any
• 36:21
  Speaker 11: rigorous way. There was a conclusion that was determined from
• 36:26
  Speaker 11: the outset, and then there was no rigorous testing of evidence.
• 36:30
  Speaker 11: There was no presentation of alternative views. And we have
• 36:34
  Speaker 11: the report that essentially is exactly as foreshadowed, and that's
• 36:40
  Speaker 11: what's going to be taught to our children.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I listened in some of the sessions and
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I was discussed. It was as remote from a fair
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: proceeding as you can possibly get. Now, the thing here,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: you're talking about a co governance system, co government system.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: There's just one percent of Victorians have Aboriginal or claim
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Aboriginal descent, and I would be astonished if any of
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: them didn't have non Aboriginal ancestry as well. The whole
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: idea of needing a separate government is preposterous and racist
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: in my view. Now, what is it going to lead to.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: We've already got Coui courts, so Aboriginal only a justice system,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: a race based treatment at Saint Vincent's Hospital. Is this
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: sort of the thing that you think is Victoria's future.
• 37:32
  Speaker 11: It certainly is. And so we do have caury courts,
• 37:35
  Speaker 11: but they pertain to sentencing. So because we're going to
• 37:39
  Speaker 11: have this co governance system and there is this foreshadow
• 37:42
  Speaker 11: transference of power, we will see, for example, a completely
• 37:46
  Speaker 11: separate indigenous justice system because the new state within our
• 37:51
  Speaker 11: state has the powers to make laws that apply only
• 37:55
  Speaker 11: to Indigenous people. So what we're going to see is
• 37:57
  Speaker 11: a complete separation of our society based on race. We've
• 38:01
  Speaker 11: seen only the beginning of it with St. Vincent's Hospital today.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: It's just insane. And how long is it supposed to
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: go for? We're intermarry like crazy and it should. Honestly,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: the whole thing is so racist, lot, I mean, you're
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: sitting there with a straight face having to describe this.
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  Speaker 1: But this is disgusting, It is so disgusting, and fixing
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  Speaker 1: a problem that it will can't fix it makes problems.
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  Speaker 1: Lana Coolarius, I urge people to read what you've been
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  Speaker 1: writing about this because this is so staggering that you
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: need to hear the details to see just how preposterous
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  Speaker 1: it is. Thank you so much for your time after
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  Speaker 1: the break the astonishing scandal of child abuse in childcare.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, if you can't blame Catholics, our labor
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: governments aren't this time that keen on inquiries into this,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: the gross double standards. After this, it seems if you
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: can't blame Jews or Catholics, it's not a huge story
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  Speaker 1: for politicians of the left. If you think that's a
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  Speaker 1: cheap shot, then compare and contrast. Thirteen years ago, the
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  Speaker 1: Gillard labor government set up a Royal commission into institutional
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: responses in the child sex abuse. Now, there was a
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: real anti Catholic witch hunt going on back then, and
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  Speaker 1: the Catholic Church was the main target of that Royal commission,
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  Speaker 1: even though the vast majorities of majority of abusing priests
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  Speaker 1: in evidence before the Commission were offending decades earlier, nine
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  Speaker 1: in fifties, sixties, Most of the seventies, and of the
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Commission's fifty seven case studies into abuse, plenty mentioned the church,
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  Speaker 1: just one mentioned state schools, and none were about abuse
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  Speaker 1: that was occurring right then and right now in childcare,
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  Speaker 1: abuse that could have been stopped. This abuse covered in
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  Speaker 1: the ABC's four Corner show last night.
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  Speaker 12: Our investigation identified one hundred and forty eight childcare workers
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  Speaker 12: alleged or convicted of child sexual abuse or inappropriate conduct.
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  Speaker 12: Forty two are convicted right now, fourteen of facing charges
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  Speaker 12: like twenty six year old Joshua Brown, accused of seventy
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  Speaker 12: three offenses, including sexually penetrating children. There's another ninety four
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  Speaker 12: some court, some banned, some got away with it, and
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  Speaker 12: we can't tell you who they are.
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  Speaker 1: But there's some difference. No Catholic Church to blame, but
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  Speaker 1: politicians maybe could be. So this time, Labour has no
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  Speaker 1: appetite at all for another royal commission like the one
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  Speaker 1: into the Catholic Church last time, but not into child's
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  Speaker 1: six abuse.
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  Speaker 12: Today, the Prime Minister has refused to consider a royal
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  Speaker 12: commission into childcare.
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  Speaker 3: Payble call for commissions whenever anything comes out immediately, They
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  Speaker 3: take years, they cost a lot of money.
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  Speaker 1: The Royal Commission into Institutional Responsors to child's actually abused
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  Speaker 1: skipped over the early childcare sector and so we really
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  Speaker 1: need to grab the bull by the horns now.
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  Speaker 12: At the same time, the ACT and Victoria are fighting
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  Speaker 12: to keep childcare file secret, terrified of what full transparency
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  Speaker 12: might reveal.
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  Speaker 1: Credit to the ABC's Four Corners for noting the difference.
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  Speaker 1: It is true state governments, especially Victoria's Labor one at
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  Speaker 1: this time, even holding back data on child abuse in childcare.
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  Speaker 1: And let's not forget Victoria's then bailue Liberal government happily
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  Speaker 1: held its own parliamentary inquiry, instaid the Catholic Church and
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: enthusiastically backed by the following Labor government, which pushed the
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: persecution the innocent Cardinal George Pell. But now it's keener
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  Speaker 1: and what seems to cover up. I'm joined by Will Kingston,
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  Speaker 1: host of Far at Will Podcasts from the Spectator and
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  Speaker 1: Politics and Culture The sconi's host Sanika to Georgio. Will
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  Speaker 1: and Danika both great to see you again, Will. One
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  Speaker 1: hundred and forty eight childcare workers alleged or convictive of
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  Speaker 1: child sex abuse inappropriate conduct. I tell you what, if
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: the abuses were Catholic priests, I doubt this scandal would
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  Speaker 1: be not getting the inquiry that it seems to demand.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think that's the difference here, Yes, Andrew.
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  Speaker 5: This morning, I've flown in from the UK, a country
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  Speaker 5: where for decades, young white working class girls have been
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: raped and in many cases murdered by predominantly Pakistani Muslim men,
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: and authorities have turned a blind eye due to cultural sensitivity.
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  Speaker 5: I think we've got the similar problem in Australia, where
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: I think there is a disproportionate level of sexual assault
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  Speaker 5: and violence in remote indigenous communities, and often a blind
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  Speaker 5: eye is turned because of cultural sensitivities. And that is
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  Speaker 5: relevant to this story because I don't think the left
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  Speaker 5: really looks at the victims anymore. I'm not sure they
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  Speaker 5: truly care. I don't think they look at the nature
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: of the crime anymore. I think they look at the
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: group that the perpetrators fall into, and if it is
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: a group that they want to go after, like the
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  Speaker 5: Catholic Church because it has had power in the past,
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  Speaker 5: they will pursue it. If it is a group that
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: they want to provide a bit more leeway to like
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: indigenous communities, they will turn a blind eye. And I
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: guess if it's a group that they're apathetic towards, like
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: childcare workers, then who knows. The fact is this is
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: the toxicity of politics laid Bear, Andrew, and until we
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: get back to the roots of real equality and justice,
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  Speaker 5: then this sort of stuff will keep happening.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think that's particularly true when some of the
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: childcare centers are funded or overseen by government, and you
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: might be blaming politicians. Is the what do you make
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  Speaker 1: of all this?
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  Speaker 13: Well, look, I think it is really curious Andrew, and
• 44:04
  Speaker 13: I do think that you raise a point that there
• 44:06
  Speaker 13: is hypocrisy, and I can only really think of one
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  Speaker 13: main reason why, and that's because, for example, the Catholic
• 44:13
  Speaker 13: Church are considered to be I guess, the conscious of
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  Speaker 13: morality when it comes to the sanctity of life, the
• 44:19
  Speaker 13: sanctity of marriage, whether people believe in that or they
• 44:22
  Speaker 13: don't believe in that. And it can be said that
• 44:25
  Speaker 13: those views are unpopular in an increasingly secular society.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Yet you've got.
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  Speaker 7: Labor governments around the country and at a federal.
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  Speaker 13: Level which are increasingly legislating against a lot of things
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  Speaker 13: that the Catholic Church stands for, for example euthanasia and abortion,
• 44:42
  Speaker 13: and so it's just so easy to then target the
• 44:46
  Speaker 13: Catholic Church and not look at anything else. Yet you've
• 44:49
  Speaker 13: got serious allegations of child sexual abuse across the country
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  Speaker 13: in childcare centers, schools and in some Aboriginal communities, And
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  Speaker 13: all I can think put it down to is that
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  Speaker 13: the Catholic Church, like these moral arbiters Labour, doesn't agree
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  Speaker 13: with what they're saying. So it's easy for the Left to,
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  Speaker 13: I guess, put everybody from the Church into this one
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  Speaker 13: category of being pedophiles, which is wrong and incorrect. And
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  Speaker 13: I am not saying that things didn't happen, and obviously
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  Speaker 13: the Royal Commission exposed a lot that was going on in.
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  Speaker 7: The Catholic Church. But I just think it does expose
• 45:23
  Speaker 7: the blatant.
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  Speaker 13: Hypocrisy of the left, that they're easy to turn a
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  Speaker 13: blind eye to some things but go after others when
• 45:30
  Speaker 13: it doesn't necessarily agree with their views.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I'm afraid that seems only too clear to me,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: but I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. Will this extraordinary
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: story broken in the Heraldsun newspaper about race based treatment
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  Speaker 1: in a hospital so proud of it that it is
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  Speaker 1: now a finalist in a government sponsored health award that
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: it automatically puts aboriginal patients in the emergency section of
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Saint Vincent's Hospital in category three of five, so if
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: you're category four or five, they go to the head
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  Speaker 1: of the Q by virtue of being aboriginal. Look, I'm
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: just absolutely stunned. Or it's Australia, like the frog and
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: the boiling water, now coming to accept this is yeah, yeah,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: this is actually good.
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  Speaker 5: I think Australia is, to be honest, about three to
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: five years behind the US and the UK, who are
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: finally starting to wake up to how toxic this type
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: of identity politics is. Andrew, every doctor takes a hipocratic
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: oath which says you must protect human life and that
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: is indiscriminate of race, religion, creed, color, you name it.
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  Speaker 5: I find this, frankly quite sickening and it goes to
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: show that the institutions within this country are so corrupted
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: by this identity politics ideology that they will go as
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: far as prioritizing the health and safety of some people
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  Speaker 5: over others, not out of need, but out of the
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: color of their skin. It really is something which I think,
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: to be honest, I'm lost for words over.
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  Speaker 1: I don't get a Danika. So if you're Aboriginal with
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: a splinter in emergency at Saint Vincent's, you're given a
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: higher priority. And I don't know who's in category four
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: some of the fractured arm.
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  Speaker 13: Well, but the question is, Andrew, how can you tell
• 47:29
  Speaker 13: if somebody's Aboriginal or not? I mean, could you just
• 47:31
  Speaker 13: rock up and say, yeah, I'm Aboriginal and then suddenly
• 47:34
  Speaker 13: you're at the start of the queue. Can you imagine
• 47:37
  Speaker 13: if this story was a story about the shoe being
• 47:40
  Speaker 13: on the other foot, that Aboriginal people came in second
• 47:43
  Speaker 13: best to say white people. Can you imagine the left,
• 47:46
  Speaker 13: the outcry from the left, the cause of racism. And
• 47:49
  Speaker 13: I've got to say, Andrew, we now know a little
• 47:51
  Speaker 13: bit of what the Victorian.
• 47:52
  Speaker 7: Treaty looks like.
• 47:53
  Speaker 13: This is the Treaty in action where every day Laura
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  Speaker 13: biding Victorians who pay their taxes, who are hard workers,
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  Speaker 13: they're going to come in second best. I mean, when
• 48:03
  Speaker 13: I read this story, I really was just shocked and
• 48:06
  Speaker 13: worried that if a family member needed to be treated
• 48:09
  Speaker 13: in an emergency department, they would have to prove who
• 48:12
  Speaker 13: they are before they can actually get treated.
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  Speaker 7: Sixty percent of us voted not to this, Andrew.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: More fool us for thinking that was the decisive vote.
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  Speaker 1: Will Kingston Dnika to Georgia, Thank you so much to
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: you both. Coming up next, Sharry Markson with a very
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: interesting interview. Good Night,