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Oh, Damn Odom: Lamar Odom Doc Recap with Blue Telusma · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: And I are back and listen. You all know the
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  Speaker 1: Very very interconnected.
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  Speaker 3: Honey, We're on the right side of history.
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  Speaker 1: Repeatedly, we listen, we are and rain drops today we
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  Speaker 1: are here to I'm not gonna say recab, but I
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  Speaker 1: think it's called doing a deep dive in lamar Odom's
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  Speaker 1: Netflix documentary because it's the reason why can't say we're
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  Speaker 1: doing a recap like we do a mother in Night
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  Speaker 1: Live with our reality shows, because we can talk about
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  Speaker 1: scene by scene and give our opinions. This one is
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  Speaker 1: different because it's a documentary of lamar Odam's life and
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  Speaker 1: his marriage to Chloe, his child's mother, his family life,
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  Speaker 1: and of course the addiction he faced. But blue, let's
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  Speaker 1: just get right into it. Listen, if you haven't watched
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  Speaker 1: the documentary, spoiler alert, We're going to reveal some things.
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  Speaker 1: But I'll say this, it's worth the watch.
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  Speaker 3: Smoke some weed first, illegally obtained or eat an edible
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  Speaker 3: child because he he gonna work your nerves. That boy
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  Speaker 3: ain't learned nothing, but go ahead, Sorry.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well let's talk about it. So the thing is this.
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  Speaker 1: It starts off giving us a glimpse inside of his
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  Speaker 1: personal life, you know, his childhood, growing up. His auntie
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  Speaker 1: is a part of the documentary.
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  Speaker 3: I love her.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, she's listen. She's like every black person untie
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  Speaker 1: that still lives in the neighborhood because she doesn't want
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  Speaker 1: to go away. She's kind of like pourl from two
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  Speaker 1: to seven very much. So you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: Like she's the one that kind of knows everything. She
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  Speaker 1: talks about how his mom wanted to name Hi Lama,
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  Speaker 1: but she said that words for sissy's and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: we still using that word in twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 3: Now, man, you got a fresh week, but not a
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  Speaker 3: fresh attitude. What's going on? Ma'am, ma'am, you can't see that.
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  Speaker 1: This is Netflix.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, y'all Captain in the in the episode what is
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  Speaker 3: that about?
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  Speaker 1: But when you learn about his childhood, you know his
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  Speaker 1: father always dealt with drugs unfortunately, and the relationship where
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  Speaker 1: his mother wasn't always there. Starting starting from his childhood,
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  Speaker 1: do you think that that really does paint the picture
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  Speaker 1: of who Lamar is as an adult.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Because one of the things that I realized immediately
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  Speaker 3: is that Lamar Odom is a love bomber and an
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  Speaker 3: addict and his daddy was a love bomber and an addict.
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  Speaker 3: Because in the very beginning they talk about how his
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  Speaker 3: father was charismatic but had a problem. Right, And when
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  Speaker 3: you look at how Lamar met his baby mama, she
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  Speaker 3: was crying over a broken heart and he love bombed
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  Speaker 3: her during a week moment. Do we not just describe
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  Speaker 3: Chloe Kardashian during every single season up until she met
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  Speaker 3: Lamar Odom. Finding a damsel and presenting yourself as a
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  Speaker 3: savior when you're about to be her biggest dependent feels
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  Speaker 3: like a family curse that he got from his pappy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: the apple didn't even leave the tree. Child's still stuck
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  Speaker 3: on the branch. Ah, this is me being nice, car Loss.
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to be no and be listening. Let's get
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  Speaker 3: into it.
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  Speaker 1: Because the mother of his children, you know, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: he she was dating one of his friends and when
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  Speaker 1: right and when the boy broke her heart, Lamar's like,
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  Speaker 1: give me a chance, And then she gave him a chance.
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  Speaker 1: He starts to make some noise in school for his athleticism,
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  Speaker 1: and then he gets her pregnant and then tells her
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  Speaker 1: to follow me and she follows him.
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  Speaker 3: Trapman?
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  Speaker 1: Is that was that? What that was?
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  Speaker 3: It was giving Trapman as a girl. Here's the thing,
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  Speaker 3: me and Lamar Oldemar, we're all in the hout. Is
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  Speaker 3: he like forty something like early forties?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he definitely definitely laid forties.
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  Speaker 3: He's he's older than me then, but like, let me
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  Speaker 3: see because because you know, he had a hard life,
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  Speaker 3: so we can't tell from his face.
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  Speaker 1: Child Lord Jesus' girlfriend.
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  Speaker 3: Me man, he triggered me. He is the main that
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  Speaker 3: I fear. He's forty said okay, So Lamar and I
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  Speaker 3: are like, okay, so in the same realm ish. Right
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  Speaker 3: back then, if a cute boy liked you, there was
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  Speaker 3: something about entrapment that used to happen, like, oh I
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  Speaker 3: gave you a baby, you have to follow me around.
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  Speaker 3: He is a very selfish man. And I watched the
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  Speaker 3: documentary quickly realizing Lamar Odom is the black Charlie Sheen.
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  Speaker 3: The only person who can take that many drugs, drop
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  Speaker 3: dead and come back like Jesus from Eastern is Charlie
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  Speaker 3: Sheen and Lamar Oldham. Those men are pickled and preserved
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  Speaker 3: in drugs. Okay, the drugs are actually keeping them alive.
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  Speaker 3: I don't recommend you try this at home. And the
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  Speaker 3: man said, he said, yeah, I die for three days,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm back though. What's like, wait, what That's not normal?
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  Speaker 3: Only Charlie Sheen can do that. But in Charlie Sheen's documentary,
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  Speaker 3: I do believe that Charlie Sheen evolved in some way.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not absolving Charlie Sheen of his sins, but by
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  Speaker 3: the the Charlie she documentary, I can see a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of growth.
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  Speaker 1: Child.
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  Speaker 3: I watched the lamar Odom documentary and said, is there
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  Speaker 3: another part three? Because where's the part where I feel
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  Speaker 3: like he like learned something and is a better person.
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  Speaker 1: Because when you listen, we can fast forward towards the
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  Speaker 1: end because that ending sound by the moment the interview
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  Speaker 1: was done and he wanted to go to Vegas, and
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  Speaker 1: it was listen, it was sad because it was sort
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  Speaker 1: of like, you went through this whirlwind of addiction and
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  Speaker 1: despair and all the things death, and you still want
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  Speaker 1: to you still want to party. And I thought that
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  Speaker 1: was I don't know, I thought that was sad and
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  Speaker 1: and and even when you go back to his his
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  Speaker 1: child's mother, Liza Morales, and how they lost a child
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  Speaker 1: due to crib death. Right, is that the to death?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, one of those type of situations.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, while he was on the road, and pretty much
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  Speaker 1: how that situation unfortunately drove them apart because he was
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  Speaker 1: making some noise you know, in the NBA, and he
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  Speaker 1: moved her to Los Angeles and pretty much abandoned her
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  Speaker 1: like he abandoned her.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the same way he abandoned Chloe. And the thing
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  Speaker 3: is too, is we talk about this on the main
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  Speaker 3: show a lot about how when you're a woman and
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  Speaker 3: you have any sort of power or cloud or platform,
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  Speaker 3: there are these batty men who see you as a
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  Speaker 3: cloud Chase. It wasn't until this documentary that I realized
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  Speaker 3: that Lamar Odin was a batty because you would think
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  Speaker 3: that because he was a basketball star and how all
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  Speaker 3: this stuff. But the fact that he himself admits that
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  Speaker 3: Chloe was a good look. Wow. So not even the
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  Speaker 3: rich men of baddies. I was worried about the brokies,
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  Speaker 3: not even the rich mentor baddies. Carlos, I'm gonna get
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  Speaker 3: a dog, Okay, send me your breeder's name, because I
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  Speaker 3: give up.
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  Speaker 1: I give up.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, y'all don't convinced meally broken alone? Now the rich
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  Speaker 3: one's of batties too, I give up.
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  Speaker 1: I give up. We need to we really need to
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  Speaker 1: settle on this first of all, before we get to that,
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  Speaker 1: because already already knew you when I was gonna clock
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  Speaker 1: what he said, because I'm not sure a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people did. Maybe they they they.
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  Speaker 3: Always so much they don't want to humanize her.
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  Speaker 1: We need to talk about did you gag when you
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  Speaker 1: learn that they got Chloe Kardashian to even be featured
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  Speaker 1: in the documentary?
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  Speaker 3: I was tickled. It's the only reason I kept watching
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  Speaker 3: when he kissed me off because the one thing I
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  Speaker 3: would give about Chloe, and I've said this before years ago,
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  Speaker 3: Chloye Kardashian has cosplaying as everybody's favorite downtrodden black auntie,
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  Speaker 3: and so the black Auntie lives inside of her. I
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  Speaker 3: will always feel some kind of sincere sadness for because
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  Speaker 3: we all know that black women in our family who's
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  Speaker 3: trying to save all these men and die is depleted. Right.
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  Speaker 3: Even Chloe has said she's been settling it for like
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  Speaker 3: three years now because she doesn't want to look at
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  Speaker 3: another penis again because of Lamar and them. Right, So
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  Speaker 3: the black woman lives in said of Loye Kardashian, I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna always have some kind of sympathy for And part
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  Speaker 3: of what I saw was a woman who gave everything
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  Speaker 3: for a man who benefited heavily and is still not
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  Speaker 3: grateful enough for me. That man is un grateful. Lamar Odom,
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  Speaker 3: you are ungrateful my birthday twin. Kelly Clarkson said, what
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  Speaker 3: doesn't kill you make you stronger. Kelly, you were wrong.
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  Speaker 3: What doesn't kill you sometimes gives you more audacity. He
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  Speaker 3: didn't get stronger, He's just more audacious. He literally ended
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  Speaker 3: the documentary by saying, I'm about to go to Vegas
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  Speaker 3: and get married.
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  Speaker 1: Child.
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  Speaker 3: I'm about to find another victim baby like he's still outside, Carlos.
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  Speaker 3: Not everybody gets better with age.
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  Speaker 1: It was the thing about is this. It was disheartening
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  Speaker 1: to I have to get it out. Yeah, Sam, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think he ever was in love with Chloe.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know.
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  Speaker 1: I think he loved the idea of being with Chloe
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  Speaker 1: Kardashian because again rain Drops, if you haven't watched it,
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  Speaker 1: is what he said.
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  Speaker 3: That.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I clocked it immediately, and he said, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm around this family, and I'm like, oh, I can
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  Speaker 1: get used to this. This is what I need. It
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  Speaker 1: was never like I'm in love with her, none of
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  Speaker 1: those things. She was in love with him. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: realize she was so young, twenty four years old when
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  Speaker 1: they got married within thirty days of meeting each other.
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  Speaker 1: He was plotting against her the way the women back
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  Speaker 1: in the day some of the day poke hoos and
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  Speaker 1: consums to get pregnant by the rich rapper.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna look at what day did they get married?
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  Speaker 3: Lamar odom Chloe Kardashian marriage, because you know we are
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  Speaker 3: we're journalists here, guys, and said, we want to make
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  Speaker 3: sure that we get the dates right, because hold on,
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  Speaker 3: I have a little bit of tea mar odo. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: So they were married in two thousand and nine. Marriage date.
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  Speaker 3: I want to get the exact date.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, please, they were.
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  Speaker 3: Married September twenty seven, two thousand and nine. So they
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  Speaker 3: met in September, late August and then got married in
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  Speaker 3: late September. Right, I saw Chloe Kardashian and I don't
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  Speaker 3: think I've ever said this anywhere before I ran into
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  Speaker 3: Kloya Kardashian the month before she met Lamar Odom. It
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  Speaker 3: was July two thousand and nine. I was working for
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  Speaker 3: a nonprofit that was flying me to Vegas for a conference.
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  Speaker 3: I had it layover in Los Angeles and took a
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  Speaker 3: flight with Kim Kardashian, Reggie Bush, and Chloe Kardashian the
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  Speaker 3: month before she met Lamar Chloya Kardashian was the third wheel.
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  Speaker 3: And I remember sitting there like, is that Kim Kardashian
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  Speaker 3: at my gate? No, that's not Kim Kardashian my gate,
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  Speaker 3: because they were still fairly new two thousand and nine,
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  Speaker 3: was right, but Lurid became strataspheric, right. And I remember
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  Speaker 3: I got in the flight with them and they were
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  Speaker 3: in first class, and I was like in Comfort Plus
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  Speaker 3: or something like a couple of rows behind them, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm just staring at them like it's Kim Kardashian, Reggie.
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  Speaker 3: But first of all, everybody shorter than I thought. I'm
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  Speaker 3: five nine, so me and Chloe were the same height.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, Chloe is not as fat as I thought.
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  Speaker 3: She's prettier than I thought. She looked like a lonely
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  Speaker 3: third wheel. Though right she looked like a lonely third wheel.
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  Speaker 3: Fast forward all these years now watching the documentary and
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  Speaker 3: hearing his first baby Mama talk about how he grabbed her.
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  Speaker 3: It's very much the same way that Chloe was the
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  Speaker 3: month before they met. She seemed like a pretty lonely
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  Speaker 3: girl who was right for the picking the fact that
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  Speaker 3: I saw her in that light, and then a month
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  Speaker 3: later she's in this world were marriage with this man
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  Speaker 3: who I think is a love bomber. There's something predatory
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  Speaker 3: about it that I can't unsee, Carlos, because that girl
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  Speaker 3: in that in that at Lax looked like a lonely
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  Speaker 3: third wheel with her her sister and her cute boyfriend.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, that's exactly the kind of girl
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  Speaker 3: that a guy like Lamar would go after, because your
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  Speaker 3: Kardashian adjacent, Like, you're not the pretty sister, but you're
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  Speaker 3: right next to the throne. You have access to all
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  Speaker 3: the things that Kim and Chris and them have, but
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  Speaker 3: you're the weak spot that the press is making fun
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  Speaker 3: of who clearly is visibly lonely.
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  Speaker 1: Nine and and and one thing that I learned about
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  Speaker 1: straight man because straight men have said this to me.
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  Speaker 1: Straight men have said they can spot a woman with
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  Speaker 1: daddy issues, and they can spot a woman who's lonely,
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  Speaker 1: and what and and and listen, Blue is right because
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  Speaker 1: again straight man said this to me. They go after
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  Speaker 1: you because they are able to who sort of mowed
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  Speaker 1: you to be the woman they want you to be,
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  Speaker 1: and they know you're not gonna leave them, and they
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  Speaker 1: do everything else.
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  Speaker 3: They're grateful to be chose. I tell people all the time.
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  Speaker 3: One of the things that scares me is a lot
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  Speaker 3: of attractive men in Hollywood when they hit on me,
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  Speaker 3: are annoyed when I'm not more grateful to be chosen.
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  Speaker 3: How dare you think we're equals? Like, I'm fine. There's
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  Speaker 3: a couple of people that y'all call your man crushed
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  Speaker 3: Monday's who I've curved, who called me a bitch because
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  Speaker 3: how dare I turn you down? Oh honey, Yes, we'll
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  Speaker 3: talk off camera. And they get very upset because they're
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  Speaker 3: thinking you're racially unabiguous black women over thirty five and
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  Speaker 3: you plus size. You should just be happy that I
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  Speaker 3: want to smell your draws. I'm like, no, I actually
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  Speaker 3: have self esteem. I have a great therapist. Men men
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  Speaker 3: like that get very angry when you're not reallying to
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  Speaker 3: kiss the ring in that way, and Lamar owed him
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  Speaker 3: very much comes off like that. To me, I think
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  Speaker 3: this documentary did him no favors. I actually liked him
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  Speaker 3: more before the documentary.
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  Speaker 1: It explained that to me. Was it okay, did a
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  Speaker 1: lot of they have to do with you know, we'll
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  Speaker 1: we're going to dive into this some more. Was it
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  Speaker 1: his treatment towards Chloe from the first day they met
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  Speaker 1: until the day she smelled the crack and saw him
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  Speaker 1: smoking it at the house after recovery? Was it? Was it,
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  Speaker 1: like you said earlier, the audacity of how he just
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  Speaker 1: isn't It's one thing because addiction is real addiction. You
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  Speaker 1: really it does have a strong hold on you. Do
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  Speaker 1: you give him a pass because the addiction or do
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  Speaker 1: you think the addiction aside before he, as he said,
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  Speaker 1: did his first cocaine in Miami later in life, and
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  Speaker 1: he's a legend. He did his first hit of cocaine
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  Speaker 1: in Miami after he met Chloe. That's what he's a legend.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: The addiction is why I was showing him grace because
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  Speaker 3: it is a disease and I recognized it as a disease, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it is. My issue is hindsight was supposed to be
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty it wasn't. My thing is those moments of
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  Speaker 3: clarity that even addicts have, the lack of depth in
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  Speaker 3: those moments of clarity, and his mask slipping and showing
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  Speaker 3: that when he wasn't being addicted in that moment, he
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: was being conniving. It's the conniving part, it's the cloud
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: chaser part. I do think that being in the shadow
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: of like a Kobe Bryant and then finding your way
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: to be bigger than the Kobe did something to him.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: I think he was the and I hate to use
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: this analogy. Back in the nineties and early two thousand,
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: used to be like, are you the Kelly Rowland or
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: the Beyonce we now know in twenty twenty six to
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Kelly Rowlan is a bad bitch, right, but back in
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: the day, she's just gorgeous. She's a stunning specimen of
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: a woman. But back in the day, before we knew better,
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: we saw her as second we saw her as the sidekick,
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: and it was always a running joke, are you the
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: main character or the sidekick? Lamar Odom was always adjacent
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: to the glamour right, the Kardashians finally centered him and
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: him being cognizant of it and admitting in retrospect that
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: it was intentional. That's why he lost favorite with me.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: When Chloe said I did not want to do Chloe
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: and Lamar. That was Lamar's idea.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Which I had, which up until up until she said that,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: you could not have convinced me that wasn't them.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: I thought it was Chris. I thought it was Chris.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Oh and when I said them, I met Chris.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: We blame everything on Chris. Y'all got me up here
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: defending Chris Jenner. My got today. We all Chris Jender
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: in the bologies. This entire time, it was Lamar.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show. When he said I
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: was on I was on TV twice every Sunday, first
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: of basketball game, then the reality show, and then when
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: they showed that Cringey, that Unisex perfume cologne commercial.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: I remember when it happened.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like, oh you, I let me tell
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: you something. I felt so bad for her because again
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: going back to her being twenty four meeting this man
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: thirty days give me married. And Chloe has been very
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: honest about was she like like Blue intimated, how how
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: she was perceived of growing up? Who are you and
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: the family? Like you don't look like anything like Kim
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: and Courtney.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: Like the ugly one.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she she's always said that, and and the
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: the idea of he took advantage of that to me
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: just based on everything he said, in addition to the
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: fact that when the mistress called Chris first being Chloe
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: and said come get your husband on fucking him.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you something about we need to do
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: a whole episode on mail Baddy. It's like, we need
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: to have an intervention with the seriously, because let's try
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: someone who ad minute though, because they're too proud to
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: admit it. Right. I once knew a mailbody Batty in Hollywood, who,
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: while he was trying to talk to me, was gloating
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: that he was dating and the side piece of the
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: fiance of a media mogul. And he was talking about
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: how like, yeah, you know, he might be rich and stuff,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: because you know, baddies resent Richmond. He might be rich
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: and successful in stuff, but his bitch spent money on me,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: taking me on vacation, and I'm like, I thought it
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: was supposed to be on a day. This is awkward
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: and he's fine as hell. You'll die when you know
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: who it is. He's fine as hell, So I'm just like, ooh,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: this is this is We are never having sex. But
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: to see how much he gloated about the pillow talk
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: between him and her, about the powerful person that they
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: were in Kahouts against. I very much believe that all
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: of Lamar's bitches knew about his Kardashianis and they were
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: probably privileged to way more than they were supposed to be.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: And knowing that's how the baddies speak to their other
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: women does not surprise me at all that she felt
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: the audacity to She probably felt like she knew the
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: family for talking to him all the time. He's a
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: liability in a way that is much louder than I
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: ever perceived. And I do think that the Kardashian women
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: do have a soft spot for coddling broken black men.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: We've talked about this previously, and I can't imagine how
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Chris felt watching that documentary. You're still gloating about taking
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: advantage of my daughter years later, when you had all
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: these opportunities to clean yourself up and say I'm so sorry.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Like years later, you're still gloating, Carlos, He was gloating
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: about taking advantage of her. He wasn't remorseful. He thinks
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: it's cute now present tense twenty twenty six. He still
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: thinks it's cute now. Lamar odem, Sir, you were better
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: off doing a KFC commercial than doing that documentary. Child,
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: That was not just for your legacy. You were better
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: off being finger licking good and telling us that you
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: are worse than we ever imagined. I thought you were sick.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: You sick and you are bad, bitch. That's a bad combination.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Child, This is what.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: You were expecting, Carlos.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Hi's listen. I knew you would dissect us in
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: a way that no one else could because of your
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: education and just insight based on the dynamics of Mars
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: versus being as and as that all relates in Hollywood.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Because the thing is this, I really and it's interesting
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: you brought up Charlie Sheen, which I watched that documentary
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: and it had like three episodes because we're talking about
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Charlie fucking she right worthy of three episodes. But I
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: agree with you. I did feel towards the end there
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: was a level of remorse and if he could do
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: things all over again, it would be different. And I
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: appreciate the fact that him and Denny's richers have a relationship.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Chloe Lamar do not have a relationship today. We never
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: talked about this publicly. Did you watch the episode where
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: he was on The Kardashians last season and he brought
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: the sheet cake? He was hours late, and I remember
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: watching it feeling like something's not right here, and I
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: never want to assume anything, And I think Chloe's coldness
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: was because she also was like, you're just not gonna change,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: and as a producer, I gotta get this out. I
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: believe the reason why Lamar now was on The Kardashians
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: is because Chloe said, I'll do the Netflix thing and
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: it wasn't even exchange. That makes sense, Yeah.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: That makes and honestly too, when you're someone who is
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: used to overextending grace to people that they haven't earned,
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: it always irritates you when someone doesn't show any gratitude
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: that they're getting somethingthing from you that they haven't earned,
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: and they want even more right, we allner that feel Carlos.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: I know that the people who have been honingful to
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: you because carl Hinton and Carlos doesn't get his flowers.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Carlos puts everybody on, but not everybody says thank you?
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: Do you, Carlos? And I peep that, like I've been
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: watching right, you know, I like to study people, right,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: and so you know what it's like to be general
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: and be around ungrateful people. It's hurtful, and it's very
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: hurtful because you're like, damn, if I did you the
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: way you did me this one, you wouldn't even have
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: the opportunity to be breathing my air right now. Like
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: the fact that we even breathing the same air is
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: already grace in itself, because you've aren't much worse than this, right,
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: And I do feel for Chloe that she's like, I've
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: still kept it cute when I could have eastered you
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: and you're in my face with a fucking Sheetcake acting
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: like it was just a misunderstanding. I'm on Chloe's side
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: on this one. Oh.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I listened team Chloe on this as well, because the
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: thing is this, I she was in love with him
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: and listen to hear how she Unfortunately, she admitted I
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: was an enabler. This is my husband. I thought he
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: could get better. I hated when he was off season
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: because it gave him permission to be out all night
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: doing drugs. I watch him crack. The smell of it,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: you'll never forget, and the fact that she was around
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: all of that. Decides to leave the situation. He goes
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: to the Love Branch. First of all, the owner of
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: the Love Branch. You thought Tiger King was a whack job, right, mother,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: This man is just as cuckoo for Coca Pops. And
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: to note that he took and when I say he
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: lamar Odom, he took twelve of the sexual enhancement drug
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: called reload that you're supposed to say once a day.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: If that he took twelve in one day, twelve, he's.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Supposed to be dead. Like this man is a medical miracle.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: But here's the thing, Carls. Did you see the part
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: at the beginning though where they said they recreated where
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: the hotel scene where he died in a museum. There's
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: a museum. Now lamar Odom almost dying has now become
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: a main attraction for lamar Odom and everybody he's attached
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: to it. That's how sick the attachment to celebrity is.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: We'll take that nasty nearest experience. They're supposed to scare
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: you straight. Back in the day, scared straight actually worked.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Now scared straight is like an infomercial for the next
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: content creator, like ooh, if I almost Zion come back,
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: I get to be an influencer. Like, no, that's not.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: How you were supposed to take that.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: This is not a good thing. So like they're all
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: living as if that moment of him almost dying and
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: them dominating the news feed, it's like the highlight of
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: all of their lives. That is sad.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: It's it's so sad. And the thing hearing that he
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: literally had twelve strokes, six heart attacks and Chloe finds out,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: drops what she's doing and is there with him in
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: the hospital in Las Vegas feeding him and had twenty
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: four hour security because she said the drug dealers were
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: coming to supply him with drugs as he's gonna Oh.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: The baby Mama had a little attitude though at that
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: part that.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: That you are my I said, not too much say
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: because I know what you're talking about. Say what she
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: said that bab I was like this, Okay, Liza girl.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: I'm shrying to be on your side. Not too much.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Friend you gave you tell them recite the park park
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: you're talking about.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: So Klaria Kardashian, here's the thing about clayk Karashian. And
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: I will say, as somebody who understands that kind of girl,
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: we understand that kind of girl. When my father is
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Robert Kardashian and the old j Case, and your mother's
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: christ Jener and your sister is Kim fucking Kardashian, there's
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: a certain level of You're used to the glamour to
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: a certain degree where it doesn't razzle dazzle you anymore, right,
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: And so Chloe's used to a certain level of celebrity
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: that everybody else will gag over. She also has to
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: learn the hard way about gatekeeping, because when you are
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: that conspicuous, everybody wants to be a barn. When she
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: finds out the drug dealers are trying to come to
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: the hospital, she says, for security reasons, we now have
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: to have a list and be restricted about who gets
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: access to Lamar because this is now turned to a
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: fucking circus right. My husband's a clown and now I
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: let the circus right? Makes sense? Maybe Mama talking about
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: when I walked in there, they wanted to the files
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: on the list. Do you know who the fuck I?
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Girl? Girl?
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: You have an attitude that you have to give your
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: name for the list. She's keeping him alive, but you
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: mad that you had to get show your id. Throw
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: everybody away, child, I hate it here. I hate everybody.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Throw everybody away. Y'all got me caping for this white lady.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Throw everybody away. You know I'm not for Latina. I
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: want to be on your side. But you saw you
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: sound like a cloud right now. But that's my love
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: because of the end of the day.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Listen, fun intended it's black or white, right.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: You spelled thank you incorrectly, baby, not thank you for
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: keeping my nigga alive. I got I'm gonna list you.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Do you know who I am? Yes?
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: You.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: The bitch couldn't afford the list. That's why she made
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: the list and you're on it. Jesus wept. I please
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: watch this. I feel like me and Carls are setting
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: 'allup to watch them. That's gonna spike your blood pressure.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: No, it's listen it like Blue said, this document this documentary,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: watching it, it wasn't a complete opposite. When I thought
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I was gonna.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: It's a ship show, it was a ship show. Carl.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Carl said, he are you watching the Lamar documentary? I said, oh,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: it's on BET And then halfway through, Bridges whipped me
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: and me. I look at Bridges like, this is a
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: ship show. Nobody's getting better. Everybody sucks. What's happening everybody?
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: It's not. It's not a redemption story to me because
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: to like you said, Chloe literally is trying to make
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: this guy main alive with a little hope. Right, So,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: and this is no shade to anyone else. I am
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: team Chloe again because and again when I say this,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: I mean this respectfully. We know that unfortunately in the enablers,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: like Clay admitted, she's his wife, enabler meeting she will
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: watch him do it. She admitted that who's to say
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: that me allowing your baby mama and your kids without
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: being vetted. I don't know if they're going to give
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: you something. You know, I'm trying to keep you alive.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: And yes, I understand that if you are the baby
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: mama of lamar Odam. I'm not gonna lie to you.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I don't if you're the child of lamar Otam. Yes,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: the baby. I'm sorry, with all due respect, you have
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: nothing to offer to this situation and you don't have
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: a say you are the baby.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: It's ensy because by that point Chloye looks like a
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: rich or white version of her. Can we be honest
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: that there was some envy? Yeah, my upgrade put me
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: on a list. How dare you? Girl? I get it,
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: but I don't right, I get it. And here's the thing.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Chloe had just walked in on your daddy trying to
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: pull the plug for a check. So the whole family thing,
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: even family's not safe. And here's the thing, I don't
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: know if you've seen it in the news. Lamar Odom
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: has come forward and says that he does not believe
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: that Chloy Kardashian stopped his father from pulling the plug. Ungrateful,
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: your drug addict, the daddy that didn't raise you suddenly
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: is an angel that Chloe Kardashian is lying on even
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: though she did.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, and you know you and I believe in this too.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Certain things is like, who makes this up when she
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: said about your father, Joe wanted to pull the plug
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: and she said, Joe, what are you doing? Let him go?
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: And she was like, what do you want? Give me nikes,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: cigarettes in a hotel room, or some shit that is
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: so specific that Chloe, why don't she make up a
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: pair of shoes, some cigarettes, or one hundred dollars in
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: a hotel Yes, Like the thing is when I saw
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: him do it the Today Show and that was a
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Today show.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: That he did, he said that that was a Today
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: I watched it.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: I watched it. Oh, I want to gag you some more.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Jenna and Chanelle said it was great to see Chloe
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: save your life and he said, God saved my life.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Oh see.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: And they first of all they gagged and said, well yeah, God, yeah,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: but Chloe and he was like, hey, just so y'all know,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: you know she did what she did. But God, I'm
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm here because of God.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: I hate that.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: And it was like, yes, like we're all breathing because
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: of God. That doesn't mean that this woman did I
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: sacrifice her entire six months to nurse you back to help.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: And literally the only reason in your life.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I felt. He said this yesterday the Today's Show was lying.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Charlie Sheen would never. Y'all got me up here, using
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Charlie Sheen as a moral litmus, right, Charlie Sheen would
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: never lamar, you are an ungrateful Kyle. And I hope
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: that Chloye Kardashian can finally end this chapter now that
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: we know that she has been keeping even more secrets
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: than we thought. It's worse than we thought. It's worse
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: than And I also think this is why the family
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: is so protective of Chloe.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: If we're this infuriated watching a well curated edited clip,
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: imagine watching this happen in real time for years and
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: years and years while the whole world is feeling bad
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: about his addiction but not recognizing how you're shitting on
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: the person who's keeping you all. Yeah, yeah, no, I
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: will say this. Not everybody gets better with age. Lamar
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Odom is a reminder that you can have every reason
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: to be grateful and still and up a mess and
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: growth is a choice, right lamar Odom. I think his
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Kardashian years until the day he dies, he will constantly
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: talk about it. I think that was his heyday for him.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: More so than his NBA career. He talks about his
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Kardashian years way more than he does about his NBA career,
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: because he doesn't care about the legacy. He cares about
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: the clout. He's a cloud demon. It's official. I blue too, Loosemian.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: These are not the thoughts of Carlos or anybody I
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: blue to looseman think that lamar Odam is a cloud demon.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: I've seen too many cloud demons up close. I know
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: him when I see one. And I do think that's
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: why she's given up, Because when Chloe talks about giving
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: up on men in that way, I think it's because
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: conceived of her that you could invest this much and
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: love that purely and be that selfless and still walk
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: away with nothing and not even a proper thank you,
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: A sheet kick on camera, that's.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: It, baby again hours late, and was sweating the whole time,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: and it was it was sad to watch. And even
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: when she said how she after he got out of
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: a coma and he was nursed back to hell, he
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: could walk again, talk again, and all these things. She
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: got a house pretty much next door across the street
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: from her in Calabasas, and she smelled the crack and
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: saw him do it and punched him in the face.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Good for you, I was the donna say think but
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: it's what you're saying. It's sort of like, since I
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: was twenty four years old, you have done nothing but
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: been a news to take, take and take and take
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: and take and take. And I thought, at least this, ooh,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: maybe this mmmm. I gotta ask you because you would
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: know better than me. Do you think she expected? Maybe
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: he will, at least for the first time since I've
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: met this man, would appreciate this. He did appreciate me
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: the marriage, but maybe he would appreciate the fact that
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: I helped get you back to being lamar odom. Yeah,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: and you're still giving your ask the kids by smoking
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: crack in the.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Crack in the house. Honestly, you know how sometimes when
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: you break up from an ex that you really loved,
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: and you convince yourself that there's this one reason why
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: they couldn't do right by you, and if this one
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: thing was just addressed, y'all, could you know the one
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: that got away? We all had that conversation about the
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: one who got away? Right? I had a one who
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: got away? Where literally, because you guys know how do readings.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: I had to read it tell me, hey, you have
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: more than one soul mate, and one of them might
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: fuck it up, so when you meet him. Yeah, it
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: was devastating. And the minute I met him, I knew
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: it was him, and I kept hoping that he would
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: rise to the occasion. Do you know he came across
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: my He's blocked and everything, but he came across my
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: feet through somebody else last week and I was like, Wow,
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: I've gone through all this evolution, You're still that guy.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Nothing we went through taught you anything, Carlos. It made
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: me so sad because fuck us being together. I was
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: at least hoping that what happened between has changed me.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: I was hoping it would change you. Some people will
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: die the way that you left them. Not everybody evolves
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: over time, and there's a heartbreak that comes not from
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: the relationship not working, but for knowing, oh, you were
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: never going to be better than this, that thing I
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: saw in you, that little glimmer was never going to
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: come into fruition. I think Lamar is that for I
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: think Lamar broke Chloe more than trist ended.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, just ahead, Lizzie, Lizzy, No, Lidy's got
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: a word child. Yes, yes, yes, because the thing is
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: this you it's the difference between Lamar and Tristan and
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: and and I'll give her this. With Tristan that is
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: obviously the father of her child, so there's always going
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: to be some connection there. So she has to buy
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: default in a lot of ways. The Lamar thing, I
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: think I think she really loved him. I think that's
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: her first love. I think she thought this was my
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: forever man. You know when she talked about the candy
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: and him being goofy, like he was everything that, you know,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: she thought like, oh, this is my connection. And I
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: think in Chloe's defense too, you know, listen at that
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: time for her too, Kim got Reggie, Courtney has Scott,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: and I have a basketball player who's handsome and tall
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: and he's with Kobe and my brother Rob looks up
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: to him, you know, like it was.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: But the candy. Can we get back to the candy?
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: When you love and we both know what it's like
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: to be around men who are charming. Yes, when you
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: see that broken little when you fall in love with
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: the man and you see the broken little boy inside
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: of him, it touches something in you, and I think Lamar,
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: even the candy aspect, I love that she They included
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: that because it speaks to she saw a broken man child,
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: and she thought that she could love him and nurse
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: She's a cancer. She thought that she could love him
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: and nurse that little boy inside of him. And that
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: little boy inside of him, I think is what has
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Chris on the hook. I think every time the Karashian
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: woman se Lamar Olden, they see that broken little boy
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: inside of him, and they want to love that little
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: boy so much. But the man he became as an asshole. Oh,
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: I'm a little triggered. We probably should have had a
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: trigger warning before this, because if you ever loved the
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: broken man, we all all this pain, Carlos, we all
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: know this pain. You're like, Oh, if your daddy has
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: showed up for you, if your mother hadn't passed away,
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: if your family had equipped you more, you could be
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: so great. You're so talented, You've been gifted with so
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: many natural Lamar has so many natural abilities. If someone
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: just loved you right, you could you could take over
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: the world. And I love you right over and over
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: and over again. And all you did was take over me. Nah, respectfully,
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: that's probably the last thing I will ever watched on
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: lamar odoms. So this is a grand opening, grand closing.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: We will not be doing any more lives about him.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: I can't. I still need to find a husband, Carlos,
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be a man. Keep watching more.
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: Of these videos out But the thing, but I think
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: to your point too, the reason why I love that
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: we did this conversation is because again, one thing you
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: and I do well is we.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Always make it appetizing for the general audiences based on
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: love and relationship. Like this is universal and like you said,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: it is a trigger warning for women who are being
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: with hey hey, yeah right hello. Now in terms of
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: these men who are desiring to be baddies, right, there
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: is this battie the dilemma happening. When it comes to
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: it's a pandemic happening. And the thing is is one
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: thing to learn that Okay, I walked away from this
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: saying while he never loved you, and when he talked
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: about you know, being in your family and that tastes
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: of fame, and he just loved the Papa riotting and
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: all that ship. And when she said we didn't have
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: like the Kardashians. That was our second season. We weren't
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: rolling in the dough. So like he's making millions, I'm
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: gonna come up and you starting.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Commercial with Blue too Loose. My month earlier, child, you
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: definitely weren't rolling on the dough. We were to commercials
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: like together.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Bitch, Yeah exactly. So it also was like, Oh, I
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: thought you were making all this money and she's like,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I was living off of his income, trying to keep
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: things together. And the last thing she said on this documentary,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: which is what Bleu is saying, her exact words were,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: he was playing me so I could continue this lifestyle
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: for him.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Because there's a thing too. Money and access are different.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: And in La in Hollywood, you could be in between
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: blessings financially and have a ton of access. There were
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: times in my career where I was down financially, but
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: I was at Cardi B's birthday party popping it right. Like,
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: access is very different from money, and when you're somebody
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: who has access and you meet somebody who has money,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: you sometimes don't realize that person wants your access even
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: though they have the money. That's the lesson I had
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: to learn the hard way. Friend, Okay, I have a
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: couple of a list enemies who I thought, there's no
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: way you're heading on poor little meat with a little
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: press pass. Oh you want my because you want to
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: come to the function. Oh that's awkward. I thought you
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: really liked me, friend, Fuck you and your egoch like.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: It's this interesting cross section. Rich and famous are two
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: different words for a reason.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Explain that to the audience, because again, a lot of
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: our viewers obviously are in the business. I get what
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: you said when you say that, but explain to them
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: about like the fact that when it comes to Hollywood,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: being rich and famous are different, and the intersection of
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: that can sometimes sprout people who use you and take
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: advantage of you. Yeah.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Well, when I was working, I was working at the Grio,
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: and I had a couple extents in CNN where I
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: had a press path. So I was writing in motorcas
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: with Michelle Obama, and I was going through all these
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: industry events. But I was pressed right, what I did
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: not clock is getting in the room as a currency.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: There are people who are much more famous than you,
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: but who don't have access, who are not on the list,
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: and so it becomes this interesting cross section of you're
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: meeting your childhood heroes, not realizing that they might have
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: all these residual checks, but they haven't been invited to
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: this party in years that you're taking for granted because
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: you're covering for work, and so now they're being your
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: friend for access and you think, oh my god, I'm
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: being chosen by one of my favorite people. Right. And
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: it's not until I lost my press pass it. That
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: wasn't until I left degree.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: I had some famous friends who I'd be like, hey, friend,
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: I've left my job with degree. I'm gonna be doing
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: freelancing now and banking on myself, left on red. Oh
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: because when Oh, but wait a minute, when you were
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: up and I had to kill stories for you so
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: you wouldn't get canceled. I was your best friend. Your
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: whole team knew that I was your a one a
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: spoon coon. But now that I can't give you that access, Oh,
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: different currencies. And so there are people. I did a
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: whole show with a celebrity who I grew up watching
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: and seeing her, and King Magazine found out that she
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: couldn't even pay for the check when we went to
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: get drinks, which you mean your car got declined but
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: you've been famous for twenty years. I just got here.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: And so there's this interesting thing of appearance and smoking
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: mirrors that happens when it comes to celebrity culture, where
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: who has the bag and who has the guest pass
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: are not always the same person. Who's on the list
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: and who can pay for the tab are not always
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: the same fucking person. And when you think someone's cloud
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: chas and sometimes y'all get that shit backwards. Sometimes it's
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: the producer or the crew member or the person who's
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: still in good favor with the network who's actually putting
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: on your fave who you thought was the person in charge.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: I don't want to say too much cross I'm choosing
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: my words careful now.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Listen, listen. You had me at the difference between the
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: bag and the press past, because that is so true.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of people who you know, a lot
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: of my listeners, they follow and they think they're everything.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: And I'm telling you Blue is cooking right now because
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: they may have the visibility, but they don't have a currency.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: They can't pay their rent.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: No they can't, they can't. They just can't. And they
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: they'll do and say anything for a piece of change,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: they'll do. Listen, they'll do strange for a piece of change.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: And strange isn't always what y'all think is prostitution all
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: those things. It really is. What Bleu is saying is
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: befriending the PA of the producer because they are good
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: with this person who's above and if and and you
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: have these men that may have the money, but they
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: don't have the power and they don't have their relevancy.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: And that is why they date the R and B
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: singer or the hot female rapper and they get them pregnant.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: And the reality star who got paid five k to
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: do her an appearance, and that's when you met her.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: Chloyd Kardashian was getting paid five racks to show up
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: to a little event and say what's up everybody? She
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: meets lamar odom who is shooting with Kobe and them?
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Who has all this money but she don't want who's
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: the talent? Oh? But you related to Kim Kardashian though, huh,
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: you might need that little five k. But you related
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: to Kim Kardashian. I something with this?
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Do you think she knows that now she does? Do
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: you think she knows that with Tristan she did.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: I think that's why. I think the reason why Tristan
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: could not hurt her the way Lamar did this because
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Lamar taught her a very painful lesson.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Oh good for her, though, yeah, I mean good for her.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: It's a tough one to learn. And I think that's
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: the reason why you Because I listen to me and
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Lititle still watch the show.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: It's like us and like seven other black people, but
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: we're still.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Right, we still watching right and my heart and listen,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: this is me being an softy. My heart goes out
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: what she talks about. Like you said, all I've been
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: celibate for three years and like, don't leave the house
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, don't let don't let listen. Of course
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: I'm saying it. I haven't lived this. So I give
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: all the grades. Because to to be married to Lamar
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Odom and to be Tristan Thompson's baby mama, trust me twice,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: trust me you you you get a lot of grades
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: and you need some time off.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: But I.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Do understand why there is this fear of meeting somebody
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: because you don't know what their agenda is.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: There's crack pipes and batties outside I might want to
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: stay inside. What if that was every reason to stay
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: in the house, Carloss, I'm just saying, if I get
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: to be in my house with my nice little pantry,
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: with all my all my my foods labeled and my
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: clear containers, or go outside for mail baddies and crackpipes,
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: I'm having an inside movie at night. Fuck y'all. I'm
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: not leaving the house. Y'all got me up here. I'm
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: caping for Chloria Kardashian. Do you understand how hard this
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: is for me as a blood In twenty twenty six
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: you met the ninety two percent caping for CLORYA Kardashian.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: That's how much mailbady And you're thinking about the Mailbady apademic.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: Let me explenin to you something really quickly. But how
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: we got here? Black men were told, All men were told.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: But you know, when the world gets a a cold,
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: the black community gets the flu. Right, everything I was
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: hits us harder. Right. Men were told for years, if
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: you are a straight man, you can only provide. If
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: you're a queer man, you allowed to have feelings because
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: they discard you like the women. But if you're a
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: straight man, you are only a provider. Right, Then the
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: women and the gays started going to school and making
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: as much money, and it could beat you in provision. Right.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: So now you can't wield provision against us because we
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: got our own fucking coins. We going to brunch without you,
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: my guy, right, go to brunch in DC. It's nothing
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: but gays and girls, honey, right, And so it's like, damn,
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: I can't exactly, I can't throw my money in their
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: face anymore. Well, they talk about how they have feelings.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: I want to have feelings, but nobody ever taught you
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: how to not to be self indulgent with your feelings.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: So now we have all these men who have failed
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: a provision, who are trying to understand how to feel,
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: but are not being taught how to be emotionally intelligent
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: with their feelings. And it creates this Baddy mentality where men.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: Now we keep on talking about transgirls versus sis girls.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: We need to be talking about straight men versus everybody
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: else when it comes to the Baddy culture. Because they're thinking,
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: when women get flued out, I want to get flowed
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: out women at cloud chase. I want a cloud chase.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: You have flatten the feminine experience. Women are more than that.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: They're taking the worst parts of us and cosplaying as
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: the worst parts of us. What about the parts of
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: us that I actually care about other people, The parts
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: of us that are holding space for other people, the
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: parts of us to take accountability, the parts of us
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: that nurture. Batty culture is taking the worst parts of
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: womanhood believing all the best parts that they could have
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: actually learned from.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Well, Blue just gave me another topic to address.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: Everything. A production meeting, y'all, y'all just watching our production meetings.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: Let we gotta the male Baddy pandemic next on the
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: Black Divide.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Write that down, Lizzie, Lizy, write that down. That is
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: That's a good one.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: Though.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: We have to do a whole separate thing with that,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: because I do want to educate the girls on some
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: of the telltale sides. Because listen, you know, this week
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: we was a mother in Night Live and we talked about,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: like all of the guys that we're all Atlanta housewives,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: and we're like, well, who's that? What's going on? Like
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: it does seem to be this trend of like these listen,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: these motherfuckers want to get put on. They just they
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: They want to get put on and they want you to,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: like you said, feel like I may not have X,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Y and Z, but bitch, I'm better than what you deserve.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: And that is a fucked up way of moving through life.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: And I it makes me angry, it makes it.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: Makes us unsafe. M the reason why we're reactions because
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: it's unsafe for everybody, including themselves. Lamar Oldham is an
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: unsafe black man who was given the world and is
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: still too ungrateful to say thank you.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: All right, well, rain Drop, let us know your thoughts
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: on this, and if you have watched the documentary, please
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: leap a comment, and if you haven't watched it, and
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: then come back and let us know your thoughts. And
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Blue always let them. They find you, follow you and
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: support you. Sys I'm at Blue Centric.
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: On YouTube and Instagram, and I'm at Blue Tlusma on
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: the Tiki Talkies. I don't know why my TikTok's growing.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: I never go on there, but it's growing. So find
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: on TikTok, I guess and you can find me on
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: Monday Night with Carlos and Dustin and Claudia.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Yo, she's a tree. I love you, Blue, be safe.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: This we are going off this weekend with Dustin and
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: all all the things.
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  Speaker 3: You back going for twenty though, how you doing? You know.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Another stri Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I think on four twenty we should all like wear
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: something in common. Maybe you dressed like Bob Marley or something.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: I can get me a little.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: I would love to get like the way with them.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: That would actually be dope, asking to be dope.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: I'll be all un illegally obtained edible just to be festive.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: Legally obtain that stuff.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: We're not breaking any laws.
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  Speaker 3: Guys.
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  Speaker 1: Well y'all heard it here first. Thank you, Blue, my
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  Speaker 1: love be good babe.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: Thank you guys. By Family by Boo.
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  Speaker 4: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.
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  Speaker 1: With the Lack of Effect Network.
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  Speaker 4: You can also find us on my YouTube channel at
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  Speaker 4: the Carlos King Underscore