Latest / THE DAILY BRIEF / Robert Reich CALLS OUT 'Corporate Democrats,' warns of 'fundamental shift' in the party
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- 0:00Speaker 1: A new Substack piece by former Labor Secretary Robert Reich
- 0:03Speaker 1: calls out those whom he calls corporate Democrats amid the
- 0:07Speaker 1: recent rise of several progressive Democrats across the country. Reich
- 0:12Speaker 1: writes in part this. To be sure, over the last
- 0:13Speaker 1: three decades, Democrats have scored some important victories for working families.
- 0:17Speaker 1: The Affordable Care Act, an expanded earned income tax credit,
- 0:21Speaker 1: and the Family and Medical Leave Act, for example.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Yet they've done little.
- 0:25Speaker 1: To alter the widening economic inequalities that have taken a
- 0:28Speaker 1: huge toll on working class families. And the former Labor
- 0:32Speaker 1: secretary joins us now. The paperback edition of his book,
- 0:35Speaker 1: Coming Up Short, a memoir of my America, is out now.
- 0:39Speaker 3: Mr.
- 0:40Speaker 1: Secretary, thank you so much for joining us again. Always
- 0:41Speaker 1: good to talk to you. So let's delve into your
- 0:44Speaker 1: piece here a little bit. We're certainly seeing a lot
- 0:46Speaker 1: of energy on the left right now for Democrats, progressive candidates,
- 0:50Speaker 1: some even affiliated with the D.S.A., surging in at least
- 0:55Speaker 1: parts of the country. Is that because, in your estimation,
- 0:58Speaker 1: they are talking big, big swings, big promises and not
- 1:01Speaker 1: just settling?
- 1:03Speaker 2: Yes, I think that we are seeing right now a
- 1:07Speaker 2: fundamental shift in the Democratic Party that is similar to
- 1:11Speaker 2: the shift that occurred in the Republican Party in terms
- 1:13Speaker 2: of populism, progressivism, a concern for affordability, a concern for
- 1:19Speaker 2: average working people. And for too long, it seems to
- 1:24Speaker 2: me at least, and again, I don't want to engage
- 1:26Speaker 2: in false equivalents because I think the Democratic Party at
- 1:29Speaker 2: least does value working people and has been on the
- 1:33Speaker 2: side of working people to a far greater extent than
- 1:35Speaker 2: the Republican Party, in my humble opinion. But I do
- 1:39Speaker 2: think that the Democratic Party is now fired up to
- 1:43Speaker 2: deal with the kitchen table economic problems that affect most
- 1:49Speaker 2: American families these days.
- 1:52Speaker 1: So, Mr. Secretary, you write that you saw the start
- 1:54Speaker 1: of the corporate Democrats there in the 1980s and the 1990s.
- 1:57Speaker 1: It became a party of big money. Again, we're not
- 2:00Speaker 1: offering equivalencies here between the two, but you suggest that
- 2:04Speaker 1: perhaps maybe moderated some of their ambition. So what would
- 2:09Speaker 1: be an example or two of something they could do
- 2:12Speaker 1: that would be big, that would make a difference?
- 2:16Speaker 2: Well, I think we're hearing it around the country in
- 2:18Speaker 2: terms of progressive Democrats who are saying, you know, number one,
- 2:22Speaker 2: Medicare for all or at least a single party payer
- 2:26Speaker 2: for health care that's going to be affordable. You know,
- 2:30Speaker 2: number two, child care. And number three, housing, making housing
- 2:35Speaker 2: more affordable and more available, particularly to young people in
- 2:40Speaker 2: this country who now cannot afford a house.
- 2:43Speaker 3: I mean.
- 2:45Speaker 2: Issue by issue, what people talk about over the kitchen
- 2:47Speaker 2: table really are now central to the Democratic message. And
- 2:52Speaker 2: I think that a lot of Democrats I speak with,
- 2:55Speaker 2: a lot of Democratic candidates are not getting off on
- 3:01Speaker 2: the issues that Republicans want to talk about, you know,
- 3:06Speaker 2: issues of wokeism or issues having to do with the
- 3:12Speaker 2: Democratic socialists of America and No, the Democrats are focusing
- 3:17Speaker 2: where they should on this issue of what can we
- 3:21Speaker 2: do to make your life better off? I also expect
- 3:25Speaker 2: that Democrats are going to be asking the same question
- 3:28Speaker 2: that Ronald Reagan famously asked in 1980 at the end
- 3:32Speaker 2: of his debate with Jimmy Carter. And that is, are
- 3:34Speaker 2: you better off than you were at the start of
- 3:37Speaker 2: this presidency? And most people are going to say no.
- 3:41Speaker 3: When you talk to voters... They are extremely angry at
- 3:45Speaker 3: the Democratic Party, even if they didn't vote for Trump.
- 3:48Speaker 3: What went wrong in the Democratic Party? How did the
- 3:52Speaker 3: Democratic Party become so corporate? And where were those mistakes made?
- 3:58Speaker 3: Was it NAFTA? Was it in compromising on single-payer health care?
- 4:02Speaker 3: What went wrong?
- 4:04Speaker 2: Oh, I think you've got to go way back, back
- 4:07Speaker 2: to the early 1980s, when the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee,
- 4:12Speaker 2: under let's say it was Tony Coelho at the time,
- 4:16Speaker 2: made a deal with corporate America and said, essentially, look,
- 4:19Speaker 2: we are in control of the House. We've been in
- 4:21Speaker 2: control of the House since 1955. Remember, this is the
- 4:25Speaker 2: early 80s. So we're going to be in control of
- 4:28Speaker 2: the House forever. Why shouldn't we drink at the same trough?
- 4:32Speaker 2: As the Republicans. And that was that that proved to
- 4:36Speaker 2: be a deal that was really a an unmaking of
- 4:43Speaker 2: the Democratic Party. I mean, once the Democrats began drinking
- 4:47Speaker 2: at the same corporate level. trough as the Republicans, you know,
- 4:51Speaker 2: it's very difficult to bite the hands that feed you.
- 4:54Speaker 2: And I saw again and again Democrats who were reluctant
- 4:58Speaker 2: to take on big corporations and Wall Street because of
- 5:02Speaker 2: all the funding that was coming from big corporations and
- 5:05Speaker 2: Wall Street. The big difference I see now is that
- 5:09Speaker 2: Democrats are saying, many Democrats, not all, but many Democrats
- 5:12Speaker 2: are saying that to those funding sources, those big corporations
- 5:16Speaker 2: and the wealthy people. They're saying, no, we don't want
- 5:19Speaker 2: your money. We are actually depending now on small donations.
- 5:24Speaker 2: We think we can do it. We're organizing like mad
- 5:26Speaker 2: and we're creating a very different kind of campaign. And
- 5:31Speaker 2: I think we'll see this increasingly in the Democratic Party.
- 5:35Speaker 1: The paperback edition of Coming Up Short, a memoir of
- 5:39Speaker 1: my America is available now. He's also got a can't
- 5:42Speaker 1: miss sub stack author and former Labor Secretary Rob Rice.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Thank you very much. We appreciate it.
- 5:47Speaker 2: Thank you.