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The Stories Behind Iconic Canadian Jingles · Music Explored Podcast

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  Short.
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  So
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  when,
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  when
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  did
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  we
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  meet?
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  We
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  met
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  about
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  a
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  month,
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  we'll
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  say
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  about
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  within
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  the
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  last
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  two
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  months,
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  I
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  think.
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  I
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  was
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  at
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  Shangri
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  La
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  coming
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  in
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  as
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  you
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  were
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  exiting.
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  That's
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  right.
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  And
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  we
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  had
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  a
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  really
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  quick
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  conversation
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  and
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  introduction.
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  And
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  in
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  that,
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  let's
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  say,
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  five
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  minute
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  conversation,
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  I
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  was
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  like,
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  huh,
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  what
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  an
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  interesting
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  gentleman.
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  And
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  from
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  there
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  I
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  just
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  asked
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  you,
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  hey,
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  I
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  think
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  we
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  should
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  do
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  a
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  podcast.
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  I
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  don't
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  know
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  if
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  anyone's
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  ever
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  approached
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  you
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  that
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  way
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  and
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  just
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  said,
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  hey,
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  man,
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  you
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  seem
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  interesting,
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  let's
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  do
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  a
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  podcast.
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  But
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  yeah,
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  here
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  we
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  are.
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  Well,
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  I
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  do
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  appreciate
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  that.
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  And
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  yes,
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  it
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  has
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  happened.
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  I
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  generally
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  don't
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  agree
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  to
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  it.
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  I've
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  done
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  radio
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  interviews
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  and
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  TV
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  things
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  and
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  they've
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  done
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  special
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  sort
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  of
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  documentaries
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  on
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  me
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  for
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  radio
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  and
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  TV
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  Canada
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  and
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  the
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  States.
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  Yeah,
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  I
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  guess,
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  I
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  guess
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  it's
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  happened.
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  And
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  very,
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  I
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  guess
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  all
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  the
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  main
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  newspapers
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  have
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  written
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  stories.
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  It
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  seems
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  to
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  recycle
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  the
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  idea
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  that
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  I'm
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  a
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  dual
• 1:04
  personality,
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  apparently.
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  It's
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  interesting
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  to
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  people,
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  they
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  discover
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  that
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  every
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  few
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  years
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  and
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  I'm
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  a
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  new
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  commodity.
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  Here
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  I
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  am
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  again.
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  So
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  you
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  are
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  again.
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  You
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  know,
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  I,
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  but,
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  you
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  know,
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  I
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  don't,
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  I
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  don't
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  like
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  being
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  totally
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  in
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  the
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  spotlight,
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  but
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  I
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  appreciate,
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  you
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  know,
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  there
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  was
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  something
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  that
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  struck
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  me
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  about
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  you
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  in
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  that
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  few
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  minutes
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  also.
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  I
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  thought,
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  these
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  guys
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  are
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  smart.
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  I
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  want
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  to
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  do
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  this.
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  Interesting.
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  Well,
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  hashtag,
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  he
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  said
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  yes.
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  Tricked
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  him
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  again.
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  Got
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  him.
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  We
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  got
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  nothing
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  to
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  say
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  here.
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  Yeah,
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  well,
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  you
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  don't
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  know
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  that.
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  I
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  actually
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  stuck
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  around.
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  I
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  didn't
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  really
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  leave.
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  I
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  listened
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  to
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  you
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  play.
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  Oh,
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  he
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  tricked
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  me.
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  Yeah,
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  well,
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  I
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  was
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  there
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  for
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  about
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  an
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  hour
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  after
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  that.
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  A
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  full
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  hour.
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  Wow.
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  I
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  did,
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  I
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  didn't,
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  I
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  wasn't
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  honestly
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  hearing
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  every
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  note.
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  Yeah,
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  and
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  you
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  guys
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  are
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  great.
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  You
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  know,
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  I
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  was,
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  I
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  ended
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  up
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  having
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  a
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  meeting
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  unexpectedly
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  with
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  management
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  there,
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  and
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  I
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  just,
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  as
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  I
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  was
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  staying,
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  I
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  was
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  listening
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  to,
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  so,
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  you
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  know,
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  it
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  was
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  good
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  music.
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  Gotcha.
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  Well,
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  that's,
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  I
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  appreciate
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  that.
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  That's,
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  that's
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  a
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  compliment
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  coming
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  from
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  a,
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  a
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  guy
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  with
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  your
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  experience.
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  So,
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  yeah,
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  thank
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  you.
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  You
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  fooled
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  me.
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  You
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  really
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  did.
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  I
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  thought
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  I
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  saw
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  you
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  leave.
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  I
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  thought
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  I
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  saw
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  you
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  exit
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  the
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  building.
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  I,
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  I,
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  I
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  did.
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  And
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  then
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  I
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  decided
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  I
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  remembered
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  something.
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  I
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  never
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  left
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  anyway,
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  so.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Okay.
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  Well,
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  there's
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  the
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  story
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  of
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  our,
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  our
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  relationship
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  thus
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  far.
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  That's
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  it.
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  Nice.
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  Nice
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  knowing
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  you
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  guys.
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  I
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  met.
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  Right,
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  right.
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  Mic
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  drop.
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  So
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  you
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  heard
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  me
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  play.
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  I
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  didn't
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  have,
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  I
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  haven't
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  had
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  a
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  chance
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  to
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  hear
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  you
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  play
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  in
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  person
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  yet,
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  so
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  I
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  look
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  forward
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  to
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  that.
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  I
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  don't
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  know.
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  I'm
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  at
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  a
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  piano
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  here.
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  Yeah,
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  right
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  on
• 2:47
  cue.
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  I
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  am
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  on
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  a
• 2:49
  piano.
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  Yeah.
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  Because
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  I
• 2:50
  figure
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  you
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  can
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  ask
• 2:51
  me.
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  I
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  love
• 2:53
  that.
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  Okay.
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  Anyway.
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  That's
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  amazing.
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  Well,
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  we'll
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  get
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  back
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  to
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  that.
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  Screw
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  talking.
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  Let's
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  do
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  this.
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  Let's
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  play
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  Name
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  that
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  Tune
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  or
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  something.
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  Go
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  ahead,
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  stump
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  the
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  band.
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  Right.
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  Right
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  in
• 3:10
  our,
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  I
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  guess
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  Google
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  deep
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  diving.
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  Thank
• 3:13
  you,
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  Google,
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  for
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  all
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  the
• 3:14
  information
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  that
• 3:15
  you
• 3:15
  provide
• 3:15
  to
• 3:15
  us.
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  We've
• 3:17
  come
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  up
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  with
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  some
• 3:18
  really
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  cool
• 3:18
  things.
• 3:18
  I
• 3:19
  don't
• 3:19
  even
• 3:19
  know
• 3:19
  where
• 3:19
  to
• 3:19
  start,
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  but
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  dricky.
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  What's
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  your
• 3:21
  favorite
• 3:21
  jingle?
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  If
• 3:22
  you're
• 3:22
  just
• 3:22
  like
• 3:22
  sing
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  one
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  right
• 3:23
  now.
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  Oh,
• 3:24
  James,
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  when
• 3:25
  I
• 3:25
  looked
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  at
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  the
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  list
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  of
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  jingles
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  and
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  we
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  should
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  probably
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  break
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  down
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  some
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  of
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  the
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  like
• 3:30
  iconic
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  jingles
• 3:31
  that
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  you've
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  done,
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  there
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  was
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  pizza.
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  Pizza.
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  Correct.
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  9,
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  6,
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  7,
• 3:35
  7,
• 3:35
  11,
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  11.
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  I
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  guess
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  I'm
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  allowed
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  to
• 3:37
  do
• 3:37
  it.
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  That
• 3:44
  one
• 3:44
  might
• 3:44
  be
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  the,
• 3:45
  the
• 3:45
  most
• 3:45
  iconic.
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  Maybe
• 3:46
  not
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  so
• 3:47
  much
• 3:47
  actually
• 3:47
  now
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  that
• 3:48
  I
• 3:48
  think
• 3:48
  about
• 3:48
  it.
• 3:49
  Everyone
• 3:49
  loves
• 3:50
  Marine
• 3:50
  Land
• 3:50
  to
• 3:50
  me
• 3:50
  was
• 3:51
  probably
• 3:51
  the
• 3:51
  biggest
• 3:52
  one
• 3:52
  as
• 3:52
  a
• 3:53
  child.
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  Yeah,
• 4:01
  I
• 4:02
  made
• 4:02
  that
• 4:02
  one
• 4:02
  up.
• 4:03
  And
• 4:03
  you
• 4:03
  did
• 4:04
  Safari
• 4:05
  for
• 4:05
  that.
• 4:05
  That
• 4:05
  was
• 4:06
  the
• 4:06
  version
• 4:06
  I
• 4:06
  did.
• 4:08
  Oh,
• 4:08
  that's
• 4:09
  the
• 4:09
  one
• 4:09
  that's.
• 4:09
  That's
• 4:09
  the
• 4:09
  one
• 4:10
  that
• 4:10
  stuck.
• 4:11
  Wow.
• 4:11
  You
• 4:11
  said
• 4:12
  what?
• 4:12
  African
• 4:12
  lines.
• 4:12
  African
• 4:13
  Lion
• 4:13
  Safari.
• 4:14
  That's
• 4:14
  also
• 4:14
  you.
• 4:15
  Well,
• 4:15
  yeah.
• 4:16
  You.
• 4:16
  You
• 4:16
  do
• 4:17
  want
• 4:17
  me
• 4:17
  to
• 4:17
  play
• 4:17
  these,
• 4:17
  I
• 4:18
  guess,
• 4:18
  since
• 4:18
  I'm
• 4:18
  already
• 4:19
  here.
• 4:19
  I
• 4:20
  just
• 4:20
  want
• 4:20
  the
• 4:20
  world
• 4:20
  to
• 4:20
  know
• 4:21
  your
• 4:21
  greatness.
• 4:21
  African
• 4:22
  Lion
• 4:23
  Safari.
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  And
• 4:25
  then
• 4:26
  this
• 4:26
  one,
• 4:26
  I
• 4:27
  think
• 4:27
  most
• 4:27
  middle
• 4:28
  aged
• 4:28
  people
• 4:28
  like
• 4:28
  myself
• 4:29
  know
• 4:29
  the
• 4:30
  most
• 4:30
  now
• 4:30
  is
• 4:31
  Sleep
• 4:31
  Country
• 4:31
  Canada.
• 4:33
  I.
• 4:34
  I
• 4:34
  have
• 4:34
  to
• 4:34
  say
• 4:34
  they're.
• 4:35
  They're
• 4:35
  doing
• 4:35
  a
• 4:35
  turbo
• 4:36
  botch
• 4:37
  version
• 4:37
  of
• 4:37
  it
• 4:37
  with
• 4:37
  some
• 4:38
  operetta
• 4:39
  kind
• 4:39
  of
• 4:39
  thing
• 4:39
  on
• 4:39
  the
• 4:39
  radio.
• 4:39
  No,
• 4:40
  I
• 4:40
  hate
• 4:40
  that.
• 4:40
  But
• 4:41
  if
• 4:41
  you
• 4:41
  listen
• 4:41
  very
• 4:41
  closely,
• 4:42
  there's
• 4:42
  this
• 4:43
  little
• 4:43
  thing
• 4:43
  underneath
• 4:43
  the
• 4:44
  hook
• 4:44
  at
• 4:44
  the
• 4:44
  end
• 4:44
  that
• 4:44
  they're
• 4:45
  still
• 4:45
  using.
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  So
• 4:49
  the,
• 4:50
  the
• 4:50
  thing,
• 4:50
  the
• 4:50
  one
• 4:51
  I
• 4:51
  did,
• 4:51
  which
• 4:51
  is.
• 4:52
  Don't
• 4:52
  come
• 4:52
  back
• 4:52
  to
• 4:53
  it.
• 4:53
  Why
• 4:53
  buy
• 4:53
  your
• 4:54
  mattress
• 4:54
  anywhere
• 4:55
  else.
• 4:56
  Yep.
• 4:57
  Yeah.
• 4:57
  And
• 4:57
  there's
• 4:57
  always
• 4:58
  that.
• 4:59
  Yeah.
• 5:00
  Yeah.
• 5:00
  But
• 5:00
  you
• 5:00
  know
• 5:00
  what's
• 5:01
  funny?
• 5:02
  I
• 5:02
  put
• 5:02
  in
• 5:02
  a
• 5:03
  key
• 5:03
  of
• 5:03
  C.
• 5:03
  Let's
• 5:03
  see.
• 5:04
  But
• 5:05
  they'll,
• 5:05
  they'll
• 5:05
  just,
• 5:05
  they'll
• 5:06
  do
• 5:06
  something
• 5:06
  like
• 5:08
  sharp
• 5:09
  or
• 5:09
  E
• 5:09
  flat.
• 5:10
  Not
• 5:10
  related
• 5:11
  at
• 5:11
  all.
• 5:11
  And
• 5:11
  all
• 5:11
  of
• 5:11
  a
• 5:12
  sudden
• 5:12
  though,
• 5:12
  I
• 5:13
  had
• 5:13
  that
• 5:13
  tag
• 5:13
  on
• 5:14
  at
• 5:15
  the
• 5:15
  end.
• 5:16
  No.
• 5:16
  You
• 5:16
  know,
• 5:17
  and
• 5:17
  it
• 5:17
  sounds
• 5:17
  weird.
• 5:18
  Anyway.
• 5:18
  Sunwing
• 5:19
  ca.
• 5:20
  I
• 5:22
  did
• 5:22
  that
• 5:23
  and
• 5:23
  I
• 5:23
  do
• 5:24
  a
• 5:24
  lot
• 5:24
  of
• 5:24
  updates
• 5:25
  and
• 5:25
  that
• 5:25
  kind
• 5:26
  of
• 5:26
  bothers
• 5:26
  me
• 5:26
  too
• 5:26
  because
• 5:27
  there's.
• 5:28
  They're
• 5:28
  sticking
• 5:29
  some
• 5:29
  other
• 5:29
  song
• 5:29
  in
• 5:30
  the
• 5:30
  middle
• 5:30
  of
• 5:30
  it
• 5:30
  now
• 5:30
  just
• 5:31
  as
• 5:31
  a.
• 5:33
  What
• 5:33
  happens
• 5:33
  with
• 5:34
  jingles
• 5:35
  and
• 5:36
  advertising
• 5:36
  in
• 5:36
  General
• 5:37
  is
• 5:37
  seasons.
• 5:37
  Right.
• 5:38
  So
• 5:38
  they.
• 5:39
  They
• 5:39
  come
• 5:39
  out
• 5:39
  every
• 5:40
  couple
• 5:40
  of
• 5:40
  months
• 5:40
  with
• 5:41
  a
• 5:41
  whole
• 5:41
  new
• 5:41
  ad
• 5:41
  campaign.
• 5:42
  Yeah,
• 5:43
  right.
• 5:43
  But
• 5:43
  it
• 5:43
  doesn't
• 5:44
  always.
• 5:45
  There
• 5:46
  may
• 5:46
  be
• 5:46
  somebody
• 5:46
  in
• 5:46
  an
• 5:47
  office
• 5:47
  somewhere
• 5:47
  doesn't
• 5:48
  understand
• 5:49
  phrasing,
• 5:50
  notation,
• 5:51
  theory,
• 5:51
  and
• 5:52
  how
• 5:52
  to
• 5:52
  correlate
• 5:53
  music
• 5:54
  to
• 5:55
  words.
• 5:56
  I
• 5:56
  don't
• 5:56
  mean
• 5:56
  lyrics
• 5:57
  and
• 5:57
  music.
• 5:57
  I
• 5:58
  mean
• 5:58
  the
• 5:58
  copy
• 5:59
  that
• 5:59
  an
• 5:59
  announcer
• 6:00
  is
• 6:00
  saying
• 6:00
  and
• 6:01
  things
• 6:02
  don't
• 6:02
  always
• 6:02
  work.
• 6:02
  But
• 6:03
  that,
• 6:04
  that
• 6:04
  one
• 6:04
  is
• 6:09
  the
• 6:10
  original.
• 6:10
  You
• 6:10
  want
• 6:10
  to
• 6:10
  hear
• 6:10
  the
• 6:11
  original
• 6:11
  Sunwing?
• 6:11
  Of
• 6:12
  course.
• 6:12
  Yeah.
• 6:12
  I've
• 6:13
  done
• 6:13
  more
• 6:13
  in
• 6:13
  jingles,
• 6:14
  by
• 6:14
  the
• 6:14
  way.
• 6:14
  I
• 6:14
  think.
• 6:14
  You
• 6:15
  know,
• 6:16
  start
• 6:16
  with.
• 6:17
  We'll
• 6:17
  start
• 6:17
  with
• 6:17
  jingle.
• 6:18
  Yeah,
• 6:18
  let's
• 6:19
  do
• 6:19
  that.
• 6:22
  Well,
• 6:22
  okay.
• 6:23
  I.
• 6:23
  I
• 6:24
  seldom
• 6:25
  sing
• 6:25
  on
• 6:26
  these
• 6:26
  things
• 6:26
  except
• 6:26
  backup
• 6:27
  stuff.
• 6:27
  I
• 6:27
  hire
• 6:27
  real
• 6:28
  singers,
• 6:28
  but
• 6:29
  I'll
• 6:29
  come
• 6:29
  up
• 6:29
  with.
• 6:30
  I'll
• 6:30
  come
• 6:30
  up
• 6:30
  with
• 6:31
  the
• 6:32
  singing.
• 6:35
  This
• 6:35
  went.
• 6:37
  Relax,
• 6:38
  have
• 6:38
  some
• 6:39
  holiday
• 6:39
  fun.
• 6:40
  And
• 6:40
  sun
• 6:41
  wing
• 6:41
  with.
• 6:41
  We
• 6:42
  know
• 6:42
  that
• 6:42
  you're
• 6:42
  number
• 6:43
  one.
• 6:43
  So
• 6:44
  get
• 6:44
  away
• 6:44
  with
• 6:45
  sunwing
• 6:45
  today.
• 6:46
  Sunwing
• 6:46
  ca.
• 6:47
  Sun.
• 6:49
  You
• 6:50
  know.
• 6:50
  So
• 6:50
  now
• 6:51
  they're
• 6:51
  doing
• 6:51
  it
• 6:51
  in
• 6:51
  the
• 6:51
  key
• 6:52
  of
• 6:52
  A.
• 6:52
  Now
• 6:52
  Sunwing
• 6:53
  C
• 6:54
  Now
• 6:54
  while
• 6:54
  we
• 6:54
  changed
• 6:55
  it.
• 6:55
  Sunwing
• 6:56
  ca.
• 6:58
  That's
• 6:58
  how
• 6:58
  we're
• 6:59
  doing
• 6:59
  it
• 6:59
  now.
• 6:59
  But,
• 7:00
  but.
• 7:01
  Would
• 7:02
  you
• 7:02
  like
• 7:02
  to
• 7:02
  hear
• 7:03
  why
• 7:03
  I
• 7:03
  did
• 7:03
  that
• 7:03
  one?
• 7:04
  Yeah,
• 7:05
  I
• 7:05
  want
• 7:05
  to
• 7:05
  hear
• 7:05
  why
• 7:05
  you
• 7:05
  did
• 7:06
  all
• 7:06
  of
• 7:06
  them.
• 7:06
  But,
• 7:06
  yeah,
• 7:08
  that
• 7:08
  one.
• 7:08
  I
• 7:09
  was
• 7:09
  on
• 7:09
  a
• 7:09
  vacation
• 7:10
  with
• 7:10
  my
• 7:10
  lady.
• 7:13
  They
• 7:13
  were
• 7:13
  called
• 7:13
  Red
• 7:14
  Seal
• 7:14
  vacations.
• 7:15
  It
• 7:15
  was
• 7:15
  2004.
• 7:17
  Okay.
• 7:18
  They
• 7:18
  were
• 7:18
  just
• 7:18
  a
• 7:18
  small
• 7:18
  little
• 7:19
  company.
• 7:20
  Yeah.
• 7:20
  I
• 7:21
  didn't
• 7:21
  know
• 7:21
  anything
• 7:21
  about
• 7:22
  what's
• 7:22
  Red
• 7:23
  Seal.
• 7:23
  What's.
• 7:23
  Suddenly.
• 7:23
  I
• 7:23
  never
• 7:24
  heard
• 7:24
  of
• 7:24
  it.
• 7:24
  Actually,
• 7:24
  I
• 7:24
  just
• 7:25
  got
• 7:25
  it
• 7:25
  out
• 7:25
  of
• 7:25
  a
• 7:25
  brochure
• 7:26
  and
• 7:26
  booked
• 7:26
  it
• 7:26
  through
• 7:26
  a
• 7:26
  travel
• 7:27
  agent.
• 7:28
  There
• 7:28
  were
• 7:28
  some
• 7:28
  problems
• 7:29
  on
• 7:29
  the.
• 7:30
  The
• 7:30
  trip,
• 7:31
  which
• 7:31
  they
• 7:32
  try
• 7:32
  to
• 7:33
  fix
• 7:33
  up
• 7:33
  right
• 7:33
  there
• 7:34
  at
• 7:34
  the
• 7:34
  place
• 7:34
  in
• 7:34
  Mexico,
• 7:35
  this
• 7:35
  resort.
• 7:37
  But
• 7:37
  it
• 7:37
  was
• 7:37
  four
• 7:37
  days
• 7:38
  of
• 7:38
  complaining
• 7:38
  until
• 7:39
  they
• 7:39
  finally.
• 7:39
  So.
• 7:40
  So
• 7:40
  half
• 7:40
  of
• 7:40
  the
• 7:41
  week
• 7:41
  was
• 7:41
  ruined.
• 7:41
  Right.
• 7:42
  Yeah.
• 7:43
  I.
• 7:43
  I
• 7:44
  contacted
• 7:45
  the
• 7:45
  company
• 7:45
  and
• 7:45
  they
• 7:45
  sent
• 7:46
  me
• 7:46
  one
• 7:46
  of
• 7:46
  those,
• 7:46
  you
• 7:47
  know,
• 7:47
  vouchers
• 7:47
  for
• 7:48
  a
• 7:48
  hundred
• 7:48
  dollars.
• 7:49
  Yeah.
• 7:49
  Here's
• 7:49
  a
• 7:50
  credit
• 7:50
  on
• 7:50
  a
• 7:50
  future
• 7:50
  trip
• 7:51
  that
• 7:51
  you
• 7:51
  never
• 7:51
  really
• 7:52
  want
• 7:52
  to
• 7:52
  do
• 7:52
  because
• 7:53
  you
• 7:53
  don't
• 7:53
  want
• 7:53
  to
• 7:53
  deal
• 7:53
  with
• 7:53
  them
• 7:53
  anymore.
• 7:54
  Yeah.
• 7:55
  Yeah.
• 7:55
  I
• 7:55
  don't
• 7:56
  know
• 7:56
  why
• 7:56
  they
• 7:56
  think
• 7:56
  that
• 7:57
  they
• 7:57
  give
• 7:57
  you
• 7:57
  something
• 7:58
  graffiti,
• 7:59
  you're
• 7:59
  going
• 7:59
  to
• 7:59
  want
• 7:59
  it
• 7:59
  at
• 7:59
  all.
• 8:00
  But
• 8:01
  anyway,
• 8:02
  I.
• 8:03
  I
• 8:03
  put
• 8:03
  it
• 8:03
  in
• 8:04
  a
• 8:04
  box
• 8:04
  along
• 8:05
  with
• 8:05
  a
• 8:05
  bunch
• 8:05
  of
• 8:05
  stuff
• 8:06
  because
• 8:06
  I
• 8:06
  was
• 8:06
  moving
• 8:07
  houses.
• 8:08
  Six
• 8:08
  months
• 8:08
  later,
• 8:08
  I'm
• 8:09
  unpacking
• 8:09
  the
• 8:09
  box,
• 8:10
  I
• 8:10
  find
• 8:10
  that.
• 8:11
  I
• 8:11
  find
• 8:11
  that
• 8:12
  voucher,
• 8:12
  and
• 8:12
  it
• 8:13
  got
• 8:13
  my
• 8:13
  backup.
• 8:14
  So
• 8:14
  I
• 8:15
  called
• 8:15
  them
• 8:15
  again.
• 8:15
  I
• 8:16
  said,
• 8:16
  oh,
• 8:16
  well,
• 8:17
  Mr.
• 8:17
  So
• 8:17
  and
• 8:18
  so
• 8:18
  deals
• 8:18
  with
• 8:18
  this
• 8:18
  vice
• 8:19
  president
• 8:19
  of
• 8:19
  marketing.
• 8:20
  And
• 8:20
  I,
• 8:21
  I
• 8:21
  said,
• 8:22
  no,
• 8:22
  he's
• 8:22
  the
• 8:22
  guy
• 8:23
  who
• 8:23
  signed
• 8:23
  the
• 8:23
  Voucher.
• 8:23
  I
• 8:24
  don't
• 8:24
  want
• 8:24
  to
• 8:24
  talk
• 8:24
  with
• 8:24
  him.
• 8:24
  I
• 8:25
  want
• 8:25
  to
• 8:25
  talk
• 8:25
  with
• 8:25
  the
• 8:25
  president
• 8:26
  of
• 8:26
  the
• 8:26
  airline.
• 8:27
  Wow.
• 8:28
  Oh,
• 8:28
  he
• 8:29
  never
• 8:29
  deals.
• 8:29
  He
• 8:30
  doesn't
• 8:30
  do
• 8:30
  that.
• 8:30
  Certain.
• 8:31
  Well,
• 8:31
  he
• 8:32
  does
• 8:32
  now.
• 8:35
  Yeah,
• 8:36
  so.
• 8:36
  So
• 8:37
  a
• 8:37
  man
• 8:37
  calls
• 8:38
  me
• 8:38
  up
• 8:38
  like
• 8:38
  an
• 8:39
  hour
• 8:39
  later
• 8:39
  and
• 8:40
  he's
• 8:40
  the
• 8:40
  president
• 8:40
  of
• 8:40
  Sunwing
• 8:41
  Airlines.
• 8:42
  And
• 8:43
  we
• 8:44
  just
• 8:44
  got
• 8:44
  to
• 8:44
  talking
• 8:44
  for
• 8:45
  a
• 8:45
  couple
• 8:45
  of
• 8:45
  minutes
• 8:45
  and
• 8:46
  I
• 8:46
  said,
• 8:46
  you
• 8:46
  know,
• 8:46
  I
• 8:47
  really
• 8:47
  appreciate
• 8:47
  you
• 8:48
  calling.
• 8:48
  You're
• 8:48
  in,
• 8:49
  you're
• 8:49
  in
• 8:49
  a
• 8:50
  similar
• 8:50
  business
• 8:50
  the
• 8:51
  other
• 8:51
  side
• 8:51
  of
• 8:52
  what
• 8:52
  I
• 8:53
  guess
• 8:53
  you
• 8:53
  call
• 8:53
  a
• 8:53
  luxury
• 8:54
  type
• 8:54
  of
• 8:54
  business
• 8:55
  to.
• 8:56
  It's
• 8:57
  a
• 8:57
  service
• 8:57
  business
• 8:58
  because
• 8:58
  travel
• 8:59
  and
• 9:00
  food
• 9:00
  and
• 9:00
  beverage
• 9:00
  and
• 9:01
  playing
• 9:01
  parties
• 9:01
  and
• 9:02
  all
• 9:02
  that.
• 9:02
  Yeah.
• 9:03
  A
• 9:03
  lot
• 9:03
  of
• 9:03
  the
• 9:04
  music,
• 9:05
  you
• 9:05
  know,
• 9:05
  that
• 9:05
  I
• 9:06
  do
• 9:06
  on
• 9:06
  a
• 9:07
  live
• 9:08
  with
• 9:09
  my
• 9:09
  own
• 9:09
  band
• 9:09
  is
• 9:10
  corporate
• 9:10
  and
• 9:11
  private
• 9:11
  parties.
• 9:12
  It
• 9:12
  can
• 9:12
  be
• 9:12
  club
• 9:13
  stuff
• 9:13
  too,
• 9:13
  but
• 9:15
  you
• 9:15
  know,
• 9:15
  so
• 9:16
  I
• 9:16
  said
• 9:16
  we
• 9:16
  do
• 9:16
  something
• 9:16
  similar.
• 9:17
  We're
• 9:17
  just
• 9:17
  kind
• 9:18
  of
• 9:18
  catering
• 9:18
  to
• 9:18
  people
• 9:18
  and
• 9:19
  trying
• 9:19
  to
• 9:19
  make
• 9:19
  them
• 9:19
  all
• 9:20
  feel
• 9:20
  special,
• 9:20
  important.
• 9:21
  It
• 9:21
  says,
• 9:21
  well,
• 9:21
  what
• 9:21
  do
• 9:21
  you
• 9:22
  do?
• 9:22
  And
• 9:22
  I
• 9:22
  told
• 9:22
  him.
• 9:23
  And
• 9:24
  I
• 9:24
  said,
• 9:24
  and
• 9:24
  I
• 9:24
  write
• 9:24
  jingles
• 9:25
  too.
• 9:25
  Says
• 9:26
  what?
• 9:26
  Really?
• 9:27
  Well,
• 9:27
  we
• 9:28
  just
• 9:28
  fired
• 9:28
  Co
• 9:28
  set
• 9:29
  advertising
• 9:29
  this
• 9:30
  morning.
• 9:30
  After
• 9:30
  two
• 9:30
  years.
• 9:31
  They,
• 9:31
  they
• 9:31
  can't
• 9:32
  come
• 9:32
  up
• 9:32
  with
• 9:32
  something
• 9:33
  and
• 9:34
  we're
• 9:34
  on
• 9:34
  the
• 9:34
  air
• 9:35
  in
• 9:35
  three
• 9:35
  weeks.
• 9:35
  We,
• 9:36
  we
• 9:36
  bought
• 9:36
  all
• 9:37
  this
• 9:37
  ad
• 9:38
  time
• 9:39
  worth
• 9:39
  of
• 9:39
  airtime.
• 9:40
  Wow.
• 9:41
  Can
• 9:41
  you
• 9:42
  make
• 9:42
  up
• 9:42
  something
• 9:42
  for
• 9:43
  me?
• 9:43
  And
• 9:43
  I
• 9:43
  said,
• 9:44
  sure.
• 9:44
  Says,
• 9:44
  but
• 9:45
  we
• 9:45
  need
• 9:45
  it
• 9:45
  in
• 9:45
  48
• 9:46
  hours.
• 9:46
  Can
• 9:46
  you
• 9:47
  present
• 9:47
  it
• 9:47
  at
• 9:47
  our
• 9:47
  office?
• 9:47
  This
• 9:48
  is
• 9:48
  a
• 9:48
  Wednesday
• 9:48
  afternoon.
• 9:49
  Can
• 9:49
  you
• 9:50
  be
• 9:50
  here
• 9:50
  at
• 9:50
  noon
• 9:50
  in
• 9:50
  our
• 9:50
  office
• 9:51
  at
• 9:51
  Burnham
• 9:51
  Thorpe
• 9:52
  and
• 9:53
  you
• 9:54
  know,
• 9:54
  somewhere
• 9:54
  4:27
• 9:56
  at
• 9:56
  noon
• 9:57
  and
• 9:57
  present
• 9:57
  this.
• 9:57
  So,
• 9:58
  so
• 9:59
  I
• 9:59
  put
• 9:59
  this
• 9:59
  thing
• 9:59
  together.
• 10:00
  Wow.
• 10:01
  And
• 10:01
  presented
• 10:01
  it
• 10:02
  and,
• 10:02
  and
• 10:02
  they
• 10:03
  bought
• 10:03
  it.
• 10:03
  It
• 10:03
  came
• 10:03
  out
• 10:04
  of
• 10:04
  it.
• 10:04
  Oh.
• 10:04
  But
• 10:04
  I
• 10:05
  left
• 10:05
  out
• 10:05
  a
• 10:05
  little
• 10:05
  point
• 10:06
  on
• 10:06
  the
• 10:06
  phone,
• 10:07
  that
• 10:07
  first
• 10:07
  phone.
• 10:11
  Well,
• 10:11
  I
• 10:12
  really
• 10:12
  like
• 10:12
  it
• 10:12
  to
• 10:12
  be
• 10:13
  something
• 10:14
  like
• 10:15
  Marineland
• 10:16
  or
• 10:18
  Sleep
• 10:18
  Country
• 10:18
  Canada.
• 10:19
  And
• 10:19
  I
• 10:19
  laugh
• 10:20
  and
• 10:20
  he
• 10:20
  says,
• 10:20
  why
• 10:20
  are
• 10:20
  you
• 10:20
  laughing?
• 10:21
  He
• 10:21
  said,
• 10:21
  because
• 10:21
  I
• 10:21
  wrote
• 10:22
  both
• 10:22
  of
• 10:22
  those.
• 10:23
  That's
• 10:24
  hilarious.
• 10:24
  That's
• 10:25
  amazing.
• 10:25
  Yeah.
• 10:26
  So
• 10:26
  I
• 10:26
  did
• 10:26
  that
• 10:27
  and
• 10:27
  he
• 10:27
  sent
• 10:28
  me
• 10:28
  a
• 10:28
  fifteen
• 10:28
  hundred
• 10:28
  dollar
• 10:29
  voucher
• 10:30
  by
• 10:30
  register
• 10:30
  mail
• 10:31
  for
• 10:31
  my
• 10:31
  girlfriend
• 10:31
  and
• 10:31
  I
• 10:32
  to
• 10:32
  go
• 10:32
  anywhere
• 10:32
  they
• 10:32
  fly.
• 10:33
  And
• 10:34
  we
• 10:34
  went
• 10:34
  to
• 10:34
  London,
• 10:34
  England
• 10:35
  and
• 10:36
  I
• 10:36
  got
• 10:36
  all
• 10:36
  their
• 10:36
  Sunwing
• 10:37
  commercials
• 10:37
  and
• 10:38
  signature
• 10:38
  commercials
• 10:39
  and
• 10:39
  Rio
• 10:40
  palace
• 10:40
  and
• 10:40
  Vacations
• 10:41
  except
• 10:41
  Express
• 10:41
  in
• 10:41
  the
• 10:42
  States.
• 10:43
  So
• 10:43
  I've
• 10:43
  done
• 10:43
  a
• 10:44
  lot
• 10:44
  of
• 10:44
  business
• 10:44
  with
• 10:44
  them
• 10:45
  because
• 10:45
  of
• 10:45
  my
• 10:45
  complaining,
• 10:46
  you
• 10:46
  know.
• 10:46
  Yeah.
• 10:46
  I
• 10:46
  was
• 10:46
  going
• 10:47
  to
• 10:47
  say,
• 10:47
  look
• 10:47
  where
• 10:47
  complaining
• 10:48
  gets
• 10:48
  folks.
• 10:49
  All
• 10:49
  you
• 10:49
  got
• 10:49
  to
• 10:50
  do
• 10:50
  is
• 10:50
  complain
• 10:50
  and
• 10:50
  you
• 10:51
  might
• 10:51
  be
• 10:51
  able
• 10:51
  to
• 10:51
  network
• 10:52
  at
• 10:52
  the
• 10:52
  same
• 10:52
  time.
• 10:53
  Yeah,
• 10:53
  yeah,
• 10:53
  that's
• 10:54
  right.
• 10:54
  Some,
• 10:54
  you
• 10:55
  know,
• 10:55
  the
• 10:55
  old
• 10:55
  saying
• 10:56
  goes.
• 10:56
  I
• 10:57
  guess
• 10:57
  my
• 10:57
  mother
• 10:57
  would
• 10:58
  say
• 10:58
  if
• 10:58
  you
• 10:58
  don't
• 10:58
  ask,
• 10:58
  you
• 10:59
  don't
• 10:59
  Get
• 10:59
  Right,
• 11:00
  right.
• 11:02
  It's
• 11:02
  such
• 11:02
  a
• 11:02
  good
• 11:03
  point.
• 11:03
  I
• 11:03
  guess
• 11:03
  I
• 11:03
  better
• 11:03
  ask
• 11:04
  my
• 11:04
  question
• 11:04
  then
• 11:04
  so
• 11:05
  I
• 11:05
  can
• 11:05
  get
• 11:05
  the
• 11:05
  answer.
• 11:06
  What
• 11:06
  made
• 11:06
  you
• 11:06
  start?
• 11:10
  I
• 11:10
  wrote
• 11:10
  linens
• 11:10
  and
• 11:11
  things
• 11:11
  when
• 11:11
  I
• 11:11
  was
• 11:11
  buying
• 11:11
  towels,
• 11:12
  by
• 11:12
  the
• 11:12
  way.
• 11:13
  So.
• 11:13
  And
• 11:13
  the
• 11:13
  owner
• 11:14
  of
• 11:14
  linens
• 11:14
  and
• 11:14
  things
• 11:15
  chain
• 11:15
  was
• 11:15
  in
• 11:16
  the
• 11:16
  store
• 11:16
  and
• 11:16
  I,
• 11:17
  I
• 11:17
  let
• 11:17
  him
• 11:18
  know
• 11:18
  I
• 11:18
  wrote
• 11:18
  jingles
• 11:18
  too.
• 11:19
  So
• 11:19
  you
• 11:19
  know,
• 11:20
  I
• 11:20
  guess
• 11:20
  just
• 11:20
  by
• 11:20
  networking,
• 11:21
  as
• 11:21
  you
• 11:21
  just
• 11:21
  said.
• 11:22
  Sorry
• 11:22
  to
• 11:22
  cut
• 11:22
  you
• 11:23
  off.
• 11:23
  No,
• 11:23
  it's
• 11:23
  okay.
• 11:24
  What
• 11:24
  made
• 11:24
  you
• 11:24
  want
• 11:24
  to
• 11:25
  start
• 11:25
  the
• 11:25
  Toy
• 11:25
  House
• 11:25
  Media
• 11:26
  Creations
• 11:26
  company
• 11:27
  in
• 11:27
  the
• 11:27
  first
• 11:27
  place?
• 11:30
  Well,
• 11:32
  I
• 11:33
  don't
• 11:33
  know.
• 11:34
  That
• 11:35
  happened
• 11:35
  when
• 11:35
  I
• 11:35
  was
• 11:35
  17
• 11:35
  years
• 11:36
  old
• 11:36
  and
• 11:37
  I
• 11:37
  was
• 11:37
  doing
• 11:37
  a
• 11:37
  lot
• 11:38
  of
• 11:38
  session
• 11:39
  work
• 11:39
  already.
• 11:40
  Yeah.
• 11:40
  Okay.
• 11:41
  And
• 11:41
  I
• 11:42
  approached.
• 11:43
  So
• 11:44
  that
• 11:44
  was
• 11:44
  way
• 11:44
  before
• 11:45
  Toy
• 11:45
  House.
• 11:45
  Toy
• 11:46
  House
• 11:46
  Media
• 11:46
  Creations
• 11:47
  kind
• 11:47
  of
• 11:47
  came
• 11:47
  around
• 11:47
  2003.
• 11:49
  Okay.
• 11:49
  But
• 11:49
  many
• 11:50
  years
• 11:50
  before
• 11:50
  that
• 11:51
  I
• 11:52
  was
• 11:52
  knocking
• 11:52
  on
• 11:53
  doors
• 11:53
  of
• 11:53
  people
• 11:53
  in
• 11:54
  the
• 11:54
  ad
• 11:54
  business
• 11:54
  who
• 11:55
  were
• 11:55
  writing
• 11:55
  jingles
• 11:55
  saying,
• 11:56
  can
• 11:56
  you
• 11:56
  give
• 11:56
  me
• 11:56
  their.
• 11:57
  Your
• 11:57
  overflow
• 11:58
  just
• 11:59
  as
• 11:59
  extra
• 11:59
  money?
• 12:00
  I
• 12:00
  was
• 12:00
  still
• 12:00
  in
• 12:01
  high
• 12:01
  school.
• 12:01
  Yeah.
• 12:02
  I
• 12:02
  guess,
• 12:02
  I
• 12:02
  guess
• 12:03
  it
• 12:03
  was
• 12:03
  just
• 12:03
  wanting
• 12:03
  to
• 12:04
  expand
• 12:05
  musically
• 12:06
  and
• 12:07
  make
• 12:07
  it.
• 12:07
  Make
• 12:07
  some
• 12:08
  real
• 12:08
  ash
• 12:08
  k,
• 12:09
  you
• 12:09
  know?
• 12:09
  Yeah.
• 12:12
  And
• 12:12
  you
• 12:13
  thought,
• 12:13
  you
• 12:13
  saw,
• 12:13
  you
• 12:14
  saw
• 12:14
  that
• 12:14
  as
• 12:15
  an
• 12:15
  opportunity
• 12:16
  at
• 12:16
  17
• 12:16
  years
• 12:17
  old.
• 12:17
  That's
• 12:17
  pretty
• 12:17
  incredible.
• 12:18
  Yeah.
• 12:18
  Yeah.
• 12:18
  What
• 12:18
  led
• 12:19
  to
• 12:19
  that?
• 12:19
  Yeah.
• 12:20
  Would
• 12:20
  have
• 12:20
  the
• 12:21
  foresight
• 12:21
  to
• 12:21
  go,
• 12:22
  let
• 12:22
  me
• 12:22
  bug
• 12:25
  music.
• 12:25
  I
• 12:26
  guess
• 12:26
  I,
• 12:26
  I
• 12:26
  guess
• 12:27
  through
• 12:27
  association.
• 12:27
  I
• 12:28
  was
• 12:28
  already
• 12:28
  working
• 12:29
  in
• 12:29
  some
• 12:30
  shows
• 12:31
  and
• 12:31
  got
• 12:31
  you
• 12:31
  on
• 12:32
  record
• 12:32
  things.
• 12:32
  And
• 12:33
  people
• 12:33
  were
• 12:33
  talking
• 12:33
  about
• 12:34
  the
• 12:34
  fact
• 12:34
  that
• 12:34
  they
• 12:34
  were
• 12:35
  doing
• 12:35
  session
• 12:35
  work
• 12:36
  who
• 12:36
  were
• 12:36
  much
• 12:37
  older
• 12:37
  than
• 12:37
  me.
• 12:39
  And
• 12:41
  the
• 12:41
  pizza,
• 12:41
  pizza
• 12:42
  being
• 12:42
  the
• 12:42
  first
• 12:42
  thing,
• 12:43
  just
• 12:43
  came
• 12:44
  from
• 12:44
  a
• 12:45
  guy
• 12:45
  called
• 12:45
  Ben
• 12:45
  McPeek
• 12:46
  who
• 12:47
  I'd
• 12:47
  say
• 12:47
  was
• 12:47
  the
• 12:48
  king
• 12:48
  of
• 12:48
  jingles
• 12:48
  back
• 12:49
  then.
• 12:49
  I
• 12:49
  think
• 12:49
  he's
• 12:50
  long
• 12:50
  passed
• 12:50
  away.
• 12:51
  And
• 12:52
  I
• 12:52
  just
• 12:52
  kept
• 12:52
  bugging
• 12:53
  him
• 12:53
  saying
• 12:53
  you
• 12:54
  have
• 12:54
  something
• 12:54
  that
• 12:54
  you
• 12:54
  can't
• 12:55
  have
• 12:55
  time
• 12:56
  for.
• 12:57
  And
• 12:57
  they
• 12:58
  had
• 12:58
  about
• 12:58
  three
• 12:58
  stores
• 12:59
  at
• 12:59
  that
• 12:59
  time.
• 13:00
  Okay.
• 13:01
  And
• 13:01
  I
• 13:01
  made
• 13:02
  that
• 13:02
  up
• 13:02
  in
• 13:02
  about
• 13:02
  15
• 13:03
  minutes.
• 13:03
  It's
• 13:03
  really
• 13:03
  a
• 13:04
  kids
• 13:04
  line
• 13:06
  and
• 13:06
  they,
• 13:07
  they
• 13:07
  kept
• 13:07
  it
• 13:07
  for
• 13:07
  about
• 13:07
  two
• 13:08
  years
• 13:09
  as
• 13:09
  the
• 13:09
  company
• 13:09
  grew.
• 13:10
  They
• 13:10
  didn't
• 13:10
  put
• 13:10
  it
• 13:11
  on
• 13:11
  the
• 13:11
  radio
• 13:11
  right
• 13:11
  away,
• 13:12
  but
• 13:13
  I
• 13:13
  think
• 13:13
  they're
• 13:13
  still
• 13:13
  using
• 13:13
  it
• 13:14
  on
• 13:14
  and
• 13:14
  off
• 13:14
  for
• 13:14
  many
• 13:15
  years.
• 13:15
  So.
• 13:15
  Yeah,
• 13:16
  yeah,
• 13:16
  we're
• 13:16
  all
• 13:17
  familiar
• 13:17
  with
• 13:17
  that
• 13:17
  one.
• 13:18
  Yeah,
• 13:18
  I
• 13:18
  think,
• 13:18
  yeah,
• 13:19
  it's,
• 13:19
  it's
• 13:19
  a,
• 13:20
  it's
• 13:20
  a
• 13:20
  test
• 13:20
  one
• 13:21
  that
• 13:21
  they
• 13:21
  used
• 13:21
  in.
• 13:21
  At
• 13:22
  the
• 13:22
  border
• 13:22
  service.
• 13:23
  I
• 13:23
  don't
• 13:23
  know
• 13:24
  if
• 13:24
  you
• 13:24
  know
• 13:24
  that
• 13:24
  it's
• 13:24
  in
• 13:25
  law
• 13:25
  books.
• 13:26
  So
• 13:26
  people
• 13:26
  coming
• 13:27
  from
• 13:27
  other
• 13:27
  countries
• 13:30
  often
• 13:31
  morass
• 13:33
  coming
• 13:33
  into
• 13:34
  Ontario
• 13:34
  per
• 13:35
  se,
• 13:35
  but
• 13:35
  I
• 13:35
  think
• 13:35
  it
• 13:36
  played
• 13:36
  beyond
• 13:36
  Ontario.
• 13:38
  Hum
• 13:38
  the
• 13:38
  pizza.
• 13:38
  They
• 13:39
  say,
• 13:39
  yeah,
• 13:39
  I'm
• 13:39
  a
• 13:39
  Canadian
• 13:40
  citizen.
• 13:41
  Oh,
• 13:41
  hum
• 13:41
  the
• 13:42
  pizza
• 13:42
  pizza
• 13:42
  commercial.
• 13:43
  If
• 13:44
  they
• 13:44
  didn't
• 13:44
  know
• 13:44
  it.
• 13:44
  They
• 13:44
  say,
• 13:45
  sorry,
• 13:45
  you
• 13:45
  can't
• 13:46
  come
• 13:46
  in.
• 13:48
  It's.
• 13:48
  There
• 13:48
  are
• 13:49
  cases
• 13:49
  actually
• 13:49
  written
• 13:50
  in
• 13:50
  law
• 13:50
  books
• 13:50
  about
• 13:51
  that,
• 13:51
  but
• 13:51
  I
• 13:51
  found
• 13:52
  that
• 13:52
  out
• 13:53
  a
• 13:53
  couple
• 13:53
  years
• 13:53
  ago.
• 13:53
  I
• 13:54
  saw
• 13:54
  the
• 13:54
  actual
• 13:54
  cases
• 13:55
  from
• 13:55
  a
• 13:55
  friend
• 13:55
  that's
• 13:55
  a
• 13:56
  lawyer.
• 13:56
  Wow.
• 13:57
  But
• 13:57
  anyway,
• 13:57
  I'm.
• 13:58
  I'm
• 13:58
  dominating
• 13:59
  this.
• 13:59
  Why
• 13:59
  don't
• 13:59
  you
• 14:00
  go
• 14:00
  back
• 14:01
  to
• 14:01
  your
• 14:01
  question?
• 14:01
  Fascinating
• 14:02
  us.
• 14:02
  That's
• 14:02
  what's
• 14:03
  happening.
• 14:03
  We
• 14:03
  love
• 14:03
  every
• 14:04
  nugget
• 14:04
  you've
• 14:04
  given
• 14:04
  us.
• 14:05
  That's
• 14:05
  impressive.
• 14:06
  I
• 14:06
  was.
• 14:06
  I
• 14:06
  was
• 14:06
  trying
• 14:07
  to
• 14:07
  explain
• 14:07
  to.
• 14:08
  Sorry.
• 14:08
  Drakey
• 14:08
  Dick.
• 14:09
  What
• 14:09
  year
• 14:09
  was
• 14:09
  the
• 14:09
  first
• 14:10
  jingle
• 14:10
  you
• 14:10
  did?
• 14:13
  If
• 14:13
  I
• 14:13
  tell
• 14:13
  you
• 14:13
  that,
• 14:14
  you're
• 14:14
  going
• 14:14
  to
• 14:14
  realize
• 14:14
  how
• 14:14
  old
• 14:15
  I
• 14:15
  am.
• 14:15
  Aren't
• 14:16
  we
• 14:16
  doing
• 14:17
  some
• 14:17
  quick
• 14:17
  math
• 14:17
  here?
• 14:18
  Yeah,
• 14:20
  in
• 14:20
  the
• 14:20
  early
• 14:21
  1970s.
• 14:22
  Okay,
• 14:22
  okay,
• 14:22
  okay.
• 14:24
  And
• 14:24
  before
• 14:24
  that,
• 14:25
  were
• 14:25
  you
• 14:26
  just
• 14:26
  performing
• 14:27
  with
• 14:28
  the
• 14:29
  Nova
• 14:29
  Sounds?
• 14:31
  Started
• 14:31
  the
• 14:31
  Nova
• 14:32
  Sounds
• 14:32
  as.
• 14:33
  Yeah,
• 14:33
  I
• 14:33
  guess.
• 14:33
  I
• 14:34
  guess
• 14:34
  that
• 14:34
  was
• 14:35
  the
• 14:35
  first
• 14:35
  band
• 14:36
  I
• 14:36
  was
• 14:36
  performing
• 14:36
  with.
• 14:37
  I
• 14:37
  created
• 14:37
  my
• 14:37
  own
• 14:37
  band
• 14:38
  with
• 14:38
  Bren
• 14:39
  walking
• 14:39
  to
• 14:39
  school
• 14:39
  one
• 14:39
  day.
• 14:40
  We
• 14:40
  felt
• 14:40
  sorry
• 14:40
  for
• 14:41
  ourselves
• 14:41
  because
• 14:41
  he
• 14:42
  played
• 14:42
  the
• 14:42
  flute.
• 14:45
  Rock
• 14:45
  bands
• 14:46
  didn't
• 14:46
  have
• 14:46
  a
• 14:46
  lot
• 14:46
  of
• 14:46
  flute,
• 14:47
  except
• 14:47
  for
• 14:47
  maybe
• 14:47
  Jethro
• 14:48
  Tall.
• 14:48
  That's
• 14:48
  true.
• 14:49
  Yeah,
• 14:50
  yeah.
• 14:51
  And
• 14:51
  I
• 14:51
  play
• 14:52
  piano.
• 14:52
  And
• 14:52
  there
• 14:53
  were
• 14:53
  only
• 14:53
  a
• 14:53
  couple
• 14:53
  of
• 14:53
  bands
• 14:54
  like,
• 14:55
  you
• 14:55
  know,
• 14:55
  the
• 14:55
  Doors,
• 14:56
  the
• 14:56
  Animals
• 14:57
  with
• 14:57
  keyboards
• 14:58
  in
• 14:58
  them
• 14:58
  occasionally.
• 14:59
  Yeah,
• 15:00
  right,
• 15:00
  Sure.
• 15:00
  I
• 15:00
  mean,
• 15:01
  yeah,
• 15:01
  there
• 15:01
  were
• 15:01
  some
• 15:02
  amazing
• 15:03
  keyboard
• 15:03
  players
• 15:03
  like
• 15:04
  yes.
• 15:04
  And
• 15:05
  all
• 15:05
  those
• 15:05
  groups,
• 15:05
  but.
• 15:06
  So
• 15:07
  we
• 15:07
  just
• 15:07
  said,
• 15:07
  let's
• 15:07
  make
• 15:08
  our
• 15:08
  own
• 15:08
  band.
• 15:08
  And
• 15:08
  we
• 15:08
  started
• 15:08
  a
• 15:09
  talent
• 15:09
  show
• 15:09
  in
• 15:09
  high
• 15:09
  school
• 15:10
  and
• 15:10
  won
• 15:10
  that
• 15:10
  show.
• 15:11
  But
• 15:12
  wait,
• 15:13
  let
• 15:14
  me
• 15:14
  see.
• 15:14
  What
• 15:14
  was
• 15:14
  your
• 15:14
  question
• 15:15
  again?
• 15:15
  I
• 15:15
  don't
• 15:16
  know
• 15:16
  if
• 15:16
  I
• 15:16
  actually
• 15:16
  answered
• 15:17
  it.
• 15:18
  When.
• 15:19
  After
• 15:19
  you
• 15:19
  got
• 15:19
  your
• 15:20
  first
• 15:20
  jingle,
• 15:21
  were
• 15:21
  you
• 15:21
  doing
• 15:21
  jingles
• 15:22
  while,
• 15:22
  like,
• 15:23
  you
• 15:23
  got
• 15:23
  your
• 15:23
  first
• 15:23
  jingle
• 15:24
  while
• 15:24
  you
• 15:24
  were
• 15:24
  playing
• 15:25
  for
• 15:25
  the
• 15:25
  note
• 15:25
  with
• 15:25
  the
• 15:26
  Nova
• 15:26
  sounds
• 15:26
  or
• 15:26
  creating
• 15:27
  that
• 15:27
  band?
• 15:29
  Yeah,
• 15:29
  yeah,
• 15:30
  yeah.
• 15:30
  But
• 15:30
  I
• 15:30
  was
• 15:31
  also.
• 15:32
  I
• 15:32
  auditioned
• 15:32
  for
• 15:32
  Billy
• 15:33
  Preston
• 15:33
  as
• 15:34
  band.
• 15:37
  I
• 15:37
  was
• 15:37
  doing
• 15:37
  other
• 15:38
  things.
• 15:38
  I.
• 15:39
  Rca
• 15:40
  or
• 15:41
  Studios,
• 15:42
  which
• 15:42
  is
• 15:43
  downtown
• 15:43
  in
• 15:43
  Toronto,
• 15:44
  around
• 15:44
  College
• 15:44
  and
• 15:45
  Young
• 15:45
  on
• 15:45
  Mutual
• 15:46
  Street.
• 15:46
  It's
• 15:46
  not
• 15:46
  there
• 15:46
  anymore.
• 15:47
  Okay.
• 15:48
  The
• 15:48
  old
• 15:48
  CBC
• 15:48
  studios
• 15:49
  were
• 15:49
  around
• 15:49
  there
• 15:50
  too.
• 15:50
  Right.
• 15:51
  They
• 15:51
  were
• 15:51
  holding
• 15:51
  auditions
• 15:52
  all
• 15:53
  around
• 15:53
  North
• 15:53
  America.
• 15:54
  He
• 15:54
  toured
• 15:55
  with
• 15:55
  other.
• 15:55
  Three
• 15:56
  other
• 15:56
  keyboard
• 15:56
  players.
• 15:58
  I
• 15:58
  actually
• 15:58
  made
• 15:58
  the
• 15:59
  cut
• 15:59
  when
• 15:59
  I
• 15:59
  was
• 16:00
  like
• 16:00
  19.
• 16:00
  And
• 16:01
  they
• 16:01
  wanted
• 16:01
  me
• 16:01
  to
• 16:01
  tour,
• 16:02
  but
• 16:02
  I
• 16:02
  was
• 16:02
  just
• 16:02
  going
• 16:02
  into
• 16:03
  University
• 16:03
  of
• 16:04
  Toronto
• 16:04
  at
• 16:04
  that
• 16:05
  time.
• 16:05
  Maybe
• 16:06
  I
• 16:06
  was
• 16:06
  already
• 16:06
  in
• 16:06
  for
• 16:07
  a
• 16:07
  year.
• 16:09
  And
• 16:11
  so
• 16:11
  I
• 16:11
  was
• 16:12
  really
• 16:12
  just
• 16:12
  involved
• 16:13
  in
• 16:14
  playing
• 16:14
  as
• 16:14
  a
• 16:14
  session
• 16:15
  player
• 16:15
  on
• 16:15
  other
• 16:16
  people's
• 16:17
  records.
• 16:19
  Wasn't
• 16:19
  just
• 16:19
  Nova
• 16:20
  Scot,
• 16:20
  Nova
• 16:20
  Sounds,
• 16:21
  just
• 16:21
  a
• 16:21
  live
• 16:21
  thing.
• 16:21
  And
• 16:21
  we
• 16:21
  called
• 16:22
  ourselves
• 16:22
  Quasimodo
• 16:23
  when
• 16:24
  we
• 16:24
  did
• 16:24
  high
• 16:25
  school
• 16:25
  and
• 16:27
  university
• 16:28
  dances.
• 16:28
  The
• 16:29
  same
• 16:29
  people,
• 16:29
  but
• 16:30
  like
• 16:30
  chameleons.
• 16:31
  Yeah.
• 16:31
  Okay.
• 16:31
  Yeah,
• 16:32
  we
• 16:32
  changed
• 16:33
  our
• 16:33
  name
• 16:33
  and
• 16:35
  how
• 16:35
  we
• 16:35
  dressed
• 16:36
  and
• 16:36
  played
• 16:36
  a
• 16:36
  whole
• 16:36
  different
• 16:37
  repertoire.
• 16:38
  I
• 16:38
  like
• 16:38
  it,
• 16:38
  you
• 16:39
  know,
• 16:39
  for
• 16:39
  university
• 16:39
  dances
• 16:40
  and
• 16:41
  stuff.
• 16:41
  And
• 16:41
  then
• 16:41
  when
• 16:42
  we
• 16:42
  played
• 16:42
  somebody's
• 16:42
  weddings,
• 16:43
  we
• 16:43
  were
• 16:44
  in
• 16:44
  tuxedos.
• 16:47
  So,
• 16:47
  yeah,
• 16:48
  it
• 16:48
  was
• 16:49
  basically
• 16:49
  a
• 16:50
  whole
• 16:50
  mixture
• 16:51
  of
• 16:51
  things.
• 16:52
  There
• 16:53
  were
• 16:53
  some
• 16:53
  very
• 16:53
  good
• 16:53
  people
• 16:54
  in
• 16:54
  the
• 16:54
  band
• 16:54
  who
• 16:54
  went
• 16:54
  on
• 16:55
  to
• 16:56
  quite
• 16:57
  big
• 16:57
  fame,
• 16:57
  and
• 16:57
  fortunate,
• 16:58
  if
• 16:58
  you
• 16:58
  will.
• 16:59
  You
• 16:59
  know,
• 16:59
  I
• 16:59
  stayed
• 17:00
  here
• 17:00
  in
• 17:00
  Toronto,
• 17:01
  but
• 17:01
  most
• 17:01
  of
• 17:01
  the
• 17:01
  other
• 17:01
  people
• 17:02
  kind
• 17:02
  of
• 17:02
  took
• 17:03
  off
• 17:03
  and
• 17:03
  went
• 17:03
  on
• 17:03
  the
• 17:03
  road.
• 17:04
  And
• 17:05
  my
• 17:05
  mother
• 17:05
  would
• 17:05
  not
• 17:06
  sign
• 17:06
  the
• 17:06
  consent
• 17:07
  form
• 17:07
  for
• 17:07
  Billy
• 17:07
  Preston's
• 17:08
  tour,
• 17:08
  by
• 17:09
  the
• 17:09
  way.
• 17:09
  Wow.
• 17:10
  They
• 17:11
  came
• 17:11
  over
• 17:11
  to.
• 17:12
  At
• 17:12
  home
• 17:13
  in
• 17:13
  Toronto
• 17:14
  and
• 17:14
  they
• 17:14
  came
• 17:15
  over
• 17:15
  with
• 17:15
  the
• 17:15
  paperwork
• 17:16
  and
• 17:16
  she
• 17:16
  saw
• 17:17
  them
• 17:17
  and
• 17:17
  she
• 17:18
  took
• 17:18
  me
• 17:18
  in
• 17:18
  the
• 17:18
  kitchen
• 17:18
  and
• 17:19
  we
• 17:19
  had
• 17:19
  this
• 17:19
  little
• 17:19
  house.
• 17:20
  You're
• 17:20
  not
• 17:20
  going.
• 17:21
  Wow.
• 17:22
  How
• 17:22
  bummed
• 17:22
  were
• 17:23
  you?
• 17:23
  So
• 17:23
  it's
• 17:24
  not
• 17:24
  the
• 17:24
  first
• 17:24
  time
• 17:24
  she.
• 17:25
  She
• 17:25
  did
• 17:25
  that.
• 17:26
  I.
• 17:28
  I
• 17:28
  had
• 17:28
  been
• 17:28
  doing
• 17:29
  acting
• 17:29
  as
• 17:29
  a
• 17:29
  kid
• 17:29
  and
• 17:30
  wanted
• 17:30
  to
• 17:30
  get
• 17:30
  into
• 17:30
  television
• 17:31
  stuff,
• 17:31
  and
• 17:32
  I
• 17:32
  was
• 17:32
  in
• 17:32
  the
• 17:32
  drama
• 17:32
  class
• 17:33
  at
• 17:33
  the
• 17:34
  Royal
• 17:34
  Conservatory
• 17:35
  of
• 17:35
  Toronto.
• 17:35
  Yeah.
• 17:36
  And
• 17:36
  that
• 17:36
  class
• 17:37
  fed
• 17:38
  television
• 17:38
  productions.
• 17:39
  And
• 17:39
  mostly
• 17:40
  it
• 17:40
  was
• 17:40
  girls
• 17:41
  in
• 17:41
  the
• 17:41
  class.
• 17:41
  I
• 17:41
  was
• 17:42
  like,
• 17:42
  the
• 17:42
  only
• 17:42
  guy.
• 17:42
  So
• 17:42
  they
• 17:43
  really
• 17:43
  wanted
• 17:43
  me.
• 17:44
  And
• 17:44
  she
• 17:44
  would
• 17:45
  never
• 17:45
  agree
• 17:45
  to
• 17:45
  that
• 17:45
  because
• 17:46
  I
• 17:46
  had
• 17:46
  a
• 17:46
  first
• 17:46
  cousin
• 17:47
  who
• 17:47
  failed
• 17:48
  school
• 17:48
  who
• 17:48
  was
• 17:49
  an
• 17:49
  actor
• 17:49
  because
• 17:49
  of
• 17:49
  all
• 17:50
  the
• 17:50
  rehearsing
• 17:50
  and
• 17:51
  filming
• 17:52
  of
• 17:52
  shows.
• 17:52
  So
• 17:53
  she
• 17:53
  said,
• 17:53
  you're
• 17:53
  not
• 17:53
  going
• 17:53
  to
• 17:53
  be
• 17:54
  like
• 17:54
  your
• 17:54
  cousin.
• 17:54
  So.
• 17:55
  So
• 17:56
  I
• 17:56
  really
• 17:56
  think
• 17:56
  I
• 17:56
  wanted
• 17:57
  to
• 17:57
  be
• 17:57
  an
• 17:57
  actor
• 17:57
  first.
• 17:58
  Interesting.