Latest / The OneCry Podcast / #150 The Presence Centered Life (2 - The Significance of Sacred Places)
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- 0:00Music.
- 0:04Your life, but you've got to listen for Him, and you've got to turn aside,
- 0:10and you've got to meet Him in the sacred places He's designed for you.
- 0:17Welcome to the One Cry Podcast, a nationwide call for spiritual awakening.
- 0:23The goal, accelerating the movement of God through sharing revival truth, stories, and reports.
- 0:33Well, welcome back to the OneCry Podcast.
- 0:36I am Jordan Bowen, and of course, I am with your normal host,
- 0:39the Bill Eliff. The Bill Eliff.
- 0:42Bill is such a great friend of mine, and I'm honored to be walking through this
- 0:46series with him about the essential presence, the daily presence of God in our
- 0:51lives and how we can have that.
- 0:52We were talking earlier, Bill, about places.
- 0:55You know, what are places? And maybe our listeners even right now,
- 0:59I want to ask you this question, but they can be thinking of their answer.
- 1:01What is a place in your life that just is significant?
- 1:06One of the greatest places you've ever been that just stands out throughout your days?
- 1:10You know, I got a lot of those. We all do. Yeah. You know, but.
- 1:15If I take five minutes to think about that, I immediately think about a mountain
- 1:22above Colorado Springs.
- 1:25Wow. Where years ago, when I had gone to an 18-month battle for the soul of
- 1:32a church, and I mean, it was an intense battle to turn that church,
- 1:36and God took us there by his grace.
- 1:38But I was so weary, man. man, I was just spent. I wanted to go sell shoes somewhere.
- 1:47And some men said, you need to get away.
- 1:51In fact, I told them, I said, if I could do something stupid right now, I'm just so tired.
- 1:56And they said, we want to give you a little sabbatical. And one guy said, go to the beach.
- 2:01And another guy said, no, no, no, no, don't go to the beach.
- 2:04You need to go to the mountains.
- 2:05And he had access to this little A-frame cabin.
- 2:09It was just big enough for me and my, At the time, my five kids,
- 2:13and I mean, that sounds big, but it was just two rooms, an A-frame.
- 2:20And they were little, our kids were little. One of our youngest babies slept
- 2:24in the car top carrier that we propped open.
- 2:28And that A-frame was sitting up about probably 2,000 or 3,000,
- 2:34maybe 4,000 feet above Colorado Springs. Springs, and every night we'd watch
- 2:39the lights in Colorado Springs come up. Wow.
- 2:42And then during the days, I would hike up in those mountains,
- 2:47and I don't have time to tell the story, but the Lord restored my soul.
- 2:52I don't know where I would be if it wasn't for that spot, that place.
- 2:58And, you know, it was the beauty of God's creation combined with the glory of
- 3:05his very personal ministry to me and his presence. It was just a powerful.
- 3:14So we're going to talk about that.
- 3:16We're talking about how do we experience the presence of God,
- 3:20the essential presence of God.
- 3:22And one of the fascinating things we kind of outlined last week,
- 3:26if you didn't hear the podcast,
- 3:27I really encourage you to go back because it'll give you a foundation for how
- 3:32God has manifested his presence throughout the Bible and through human history
- 3:36and that he wants to be with us, but he knows us.
- 3:41And so he meets us in places.
- 3:46He just meets us in places. I read a little quote, Jordan, that is pretty fascinating.
- 3:53It said, places matter.
- 3:56We are surrounded by places. We walk over and through them. We live in places.
- 4:02We relate to others in them. We die in them.
- 4:05Nothing we do is unplaced. Wow.
- 4:09It's all, our whole life is in this context of places.
- 4:15And so I want you to think about this for a moment just biblically.
- 4:20Now, first of all, we begin in a place, right?
- 4:24Right. And that place is in eternity with God, but our first human place was the garden.
- 4:31And God created this place. It was designed in a specific way for Adam and Eve, for his creation.
- 4:40And so that it was designed as a place where the triune God and Adam and Eve
- 4:47could walk together in the cool of the day.
- 4:49Right. They experienced his presence right there.
- 4:52Now, we know they were cast out of that because of their sin and their rebellion.
- 4:57And they left that place. But then you just start finding all through the rest
- 5:03of the Old Testament, God meeting them in places. Think about this, Jordan.
- 5:09He met them in an ark, right? Yeah. Think if they hadn't had that place.
- 5:14Wow. And who made that? Well, God used Noah, but it was in God's mind.
- 5:20Right. To create that place that was a place of safety, a place of protection, a place of salvation.
- 5:29Yeah. It's a place of his presence.
- 5:31And then we see God meeting Abraham out of the stars.
- 5:35Yeah. And how beautiful this is that God came to Abraham and gave him promises, right? Right.
- 5:42And in very specific places, we see Joseph getting thrown into a pit and then
- 5:50thrown into and Potiphar's house into prison and then exalted to a palace.
- 5:56You know, and in all these places, God manifested himself.
- 6:02Then we see Moses and the whole story. story, but Moses is on the backside of
- 6:09the desert, and one day he looks up and there's a bush that is not consumed.
- 6:14And don't you know that Moses forever remembered that spot?
- 6:19That was a spot where God came to me. That was a spot at 80 years old when I
- 6:26thought I would never be used again. Hmm.
- 6:29That God came to me and called me back into service and really showed me that
- 6:35everything in my life had been just preparation.
- 6:38But it was his presence. Nothing spectacular about that spot in the desert,
- 6:44but God's presence made that spot spectacular.
- 6:49We go on in the life of Moses, and we see him one day, as he led the children
- 6:55of Israel out, going up to Mount Sinai.
- 6:58My, what a place. And I'm sure that Moses probably thought there's nothing special
- 7:03about this mountain until the Lord led him there.
- 7:06And what made it special was his presence and God giving with his hand,
- 7:13giving his commandments, telling them how they are to live.
- 7:18And up on that mountain, him saying, Lord, I want to see your glory.
- 7:24And God said, well, you can't see
- 7:26my face, but I'm just going to hide you here. And I'm going to pass by.
- 7:30You'll see the back of me. And he saw the glory of God. It was so sacred,
- 7:34it didn't even record the end of that story.
- 7:37Try to describe it, what his presence was, the fullness of his presence was like.
- 7:42So in all of these places, Jacob at Peniel, Moses at Sinai, right?
- 7:50David on the Valley of Elah fighting Goliath. Don't you know?
- 7:55He never rode by that place again.
- 7:58Without thinking of God. Here's the point.
- 8:01We need places, but we need places that are filled with the presence of God,
- 8:07that are made memorable by the presence of God. So how does that happen?
- 8:15Well, it happens in two ways. One, it happens because of God's relentless pursuit.
- 8:22I mean, you look at all these places, Abraham's place, Jacob's place, right?
- 8:28David's place, Moses's place. You think of God showing up to Mary in the garden tomb.
- 8:36You think of Peter at the side of the Sea of Galilee after he had miserably
- 8:40denied the Lord and God restored him and loved on him there.
- 8:45And just all of these spots were because he first loved us. He first pursued us.
- 8:54But also, there are spots where man cooperated.
- 8:59You know, the Bible says about Moses, for instance, that when he looked over
- 9:04and he saw the burning bush, that he turned aside. side.
- 9:09I've often thought, well, what if he hadn't turned aside? What if he'd just
- 9:13gotten scared and afraid and just run away?
- 9:16Or what if he knew it was the Lord and he had just run?
- 9:19But man made this choice.
- 9:23Moses made this choice to turn aside and to take off his shoes and to enter
- 9:30into the presence of God.
- 9:32So God has places that he wants to meet you.
- 9:40Now, secondly, I want you to realize that we see in human history that any place
- 9:47can become a sacred place.
- 9:49I mean, it doesn't have to be something spectacular.
- 9:54You know, we go to great lengths to create things in the kingdom of God and
- 10:00in a church, and we make really beautiful sanctuaries and all of that. That's fine.
- 10:05You know, there's nothing wrong with that. In fact,
- 10:08God went to extraordinary lengths to create a tabernacle and to create a temple
- 10:15because it was to communicate something and to be the house of his presence, right?
- 10:22So that's fine, but God can make the side of the road his temple.
- 10:29His place of his presence, humble heart his presence.
- 10:34Presence i mean here's mary and and here's
- 10:37an angel coming and saying behold favored
- 10:41one you know i'm i'm gonna you're gonna conceive a
- 10:44child and i guarantee you she knew exactly
- 10:47she could tell us if we were here exactly where she
- 10:50was sitting when that happened and that became such a
- 10:54sanctuary of the presence of god god wants
- 10:57you to turn aside now what
- 11:01does that mean what are are some of the ways that that could
- 11:04happen well it means turning aside every
- 11:08day doesn't it i mean it means when
- 11:11the lord wakes you up in the morning getting up i
- 11:15tell you i this is so simple but so profound so i said to me brother bill i
- 11:23know you meet with the lord every day and you read your bible and you pray and
- 11:26and i and i've always said that's the key to my experience of So the presence of God is,
- 11:32but how do you do that? Well, I get up.
- 11:38You don't hit the alarm button. You don't hit the snooze button.
- 11:41You don't say, man, I'm really tired. God doesn't apparently know how much sleep I need.
- 11:46No, you just get up. If it's 3 o'clock in the morning, you get up.
- 11:50If it's 5 o'clock in the morning, you just get up because God is there.
- 11:55And I promise you, if he's prompting your heart to get up, he has something
- 11:59to say to you. And time doesn't mean anything to him.
- 12:06He knows that what you need is his presence, his voice, his instruction,
- 12:13his comfort, his encouragement, his promises.
- 12:18So you've got to turn aside.
- 12:20It's like Moses. You've got to just turn aside and go and be in the presence of God. Amen.
- 12:28And I want to say one more thing to us here about these places.
- 12:33Places of God's presence become great testimonies, right?
- 12:40I mean, I could walk you to the spot up on the mountain above Colorado Springs
- 12:46where I met with the Lord, and it restored my life.
- 12:52Honestly, I don't know where I would be today if it hadn't been for those hours and those days, really.
- 12:58Several weeks in the presence of God that just restored me and confirmed what
- 13:04had happened and where I was and whose I was.
- 13:08And I can take you to many, many places like that in my life,
- 13:13and they become testimonies of the grace and the power of God.
- 13:17Years ago, I went through a very hard thing. And I really got angry at the Lord.
- 13:23And I went out walking and I literally shook my fist at the Lord.
- 13:30Long story, it would be understandable to you if I told you the whole story.
- 13:35But I was upset that the Lord was allowing a very hard, hardest thing that ever
- 13:41happened in my life before or since.
- 13:44And under a big cottonwood tree,
- 13:47the Lord began to minister to me by His Spirit and just took the anger out of my soul,
- 13:56let me unclasp my hands and receive what was happening as if it was from Him.
- 14:04And He showed me that He was going to take care of me and that He He was all that I needed.
- 14:10Years later, probably a decade later, I took all my kids there.
- 14:15And I got them out of the car, and we stood in front of that cottonwood tree,
- 14:20and I told them that story.
- 14:22And that the Lord was here and been here and had met me right here.
- 14:26And so this, just an old cottonwood tree, had become a very sacred place to me.
- 14:32It was a tabernacle. It was a temple.
- 14:36Because the presence of God was there and God wants to give you those places in your life.
- 14:44But you've got to listen for him and you've got to turn aside and you've got
- 14:49to meet him in the sacred places he's designed for you.
- 14:55Jordan, I know you have places like that. Yeah, I do. I do. Yeah.
- 15:01Yeah. There's one not far from here out by the river where I would run,
- 15:05run by there when I'm running, but a park bench that I would stop to pray at.
- 15:09And about two years ago, the Lord told me, you need to come out here and sit until I talk.
- 15:15And he radically changed me in that moment.
- 15:18And it's a place. I have a picture that I look at and I go there often.
- 15:22My wife and I go out there to pray.
- 15:24It's different. It's significant in our hearts and in our minds.
- 15:28And I tell my boys, like you, look at that place. God talked to me there.
- 15:33Wouldn't it be interesting to think that you go through battlegrounds or a state
- 15:39park or something, and there are the little markers.
- 15:41Right. You know, here's where this battle fought.
- 15:44Yeah. Here's where this victory was won. Yeah. And wouldn't it be interesting
- 15:48to see from heaven's perspective.
- 15:50Right. All those little markers all over the earth. Yeah.
- 15:53Where God has met with people. Yeah. We're going to pray together,
- 15:57and we want to pray for the places of your life and where God wants to make
- 16:05that place special because of his presence.
- 16:08And that's the key. It's not just a special place. Right.
- 16:12What makes it special is that we turn aside and God chooses to meet us there,
- 16:18and we cooperate with him.
- 16:20Those two things. things God's pursuit, but our pursuit of him.
- 16:26And he's got places for you. He may have a place for you this afternoon.
- 16:30He may have a park bench beside a river this week.
- 16:35And I think there are many more places like that than we can imagine if we would
- 16:42just give God time and if we would listen up and we would meet him and it would change our lives.
- 16:49So let me pray for us, and then, Jordan, you close.
- 16:53And we want to invite you, as always, to pray with us, okay? Just pray with us.
- 16:59So, Father, we're so grateful that...
- 17:03You meet us in places. Lord, you just have spots that become sacred because you're there.
- 17:13And you can make any spot like that.
- 17:16And, Lord, I pray that we would recognize that. I pray that we would have our antenna up.
- 17:24I pray when you wake us up, we'd get up. I pray when you say,
- 17:29stop right here and place your hand on the shoulder of someone who's hurting and pray for them.
- 17:37I want to make this a special place for them.
- 17:40I want this to be a memorable place of my presence.
- 17:45And lord help us to recognize the
- 17:49places that you have ordained to see
- 17:53and experience both for us and others the presence of god yes lord and i i long
- 18:00for for more places with you and lord just bill was sharing and i know our listeners
- 18:05have to agree lord when you when you wake me up what i I want to get up and
- 18:10that might not be when I'm sleeping even,
- 18:12but just in my day, when you say, Jordan,
- 18:15I got a word for you. I need you to stop.
- 18:17I need you to go to this place. I need you to sit still and listen.
- 18:21Lord, would we do that? Teach us to be obedient to that, stir our hearts.
- 18:25And even right now, as we unite in a cry together for us to have a better understanding
- 18:31of the opportunity we have every day to encounter you in your presence,
- 18:36Lord, I pray that we would recognize and acknowledge the places in our lives,
- 18:42Lord, where we have heard from you and Lord, the places that you're calling
- 18:46us to, to sit and learn and hear from you more.
- 18:49So Lord, I ask you to do this in each one of our lives and the listeners today
- 18:54in Jesus name. And I want to add one more.
- 18:57Thought to this, Lord, and that is, I think of the places of great movements of revival.
- 19:05Yeah. I think of Fulton Street in the 1857 revival. I think of Asbury.
- 19:12I think of church at Longore, Wales, where you came and began the Welsh revival.
- 19:19And Father, we thank you for your stirring right now around our nation,
- 19:24but we pray that you would manifest Manifest yourself in places.
- 19:30Yes. We pray for college campuses. Yes, Lord. We pray for high school and middle school campuses.
- 19:38We pray that you would manifest yourself in homes.
- 19:43We pray, Father, that you would come in power to your churches.
- 19:48Yes, Lord. And we would make room for you, Lord.
- 19:51Lord, we would prepare a highway for our God, and we would pull down the high
- 19:57places and lift up the low places and prepare a highway for our God so the King
- 20:02of glory could come in and manifest himself.
- 20:06So, Lord, would you make our nation once again a place of nationwide revival
- 20:14and spiritual awakening?
- 20:15Not so, Lord, we can just have things a little better, but so that the great
- 20:21purposes of your kingdom can come and your will be done.
- 20:27And the missionary advance would accelerate.
- 20:31The evangelism would accelerate, Lord.
- 20:36And you would be more greatly glorified. We join together in that prayer.
- 20:40Yes, sir. And we pray it in your name. Amen. Amen. Amen.
- 20:44Well, thanks so much. Jordan for joining me
- 20:47today and thank you for joining us and and
- 20:51we pray that you'll join us each week
- 20:54in this series and and don't forget we're offering a
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- 21:10at one cry and so we hope you'll get that to supplement what you're learning
- 21:17and you're pursuing as we all.
- 21:19Music.