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Opponent Preview · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast.
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  I am Curtis Wilson, I'm Brian sigla and buddy.
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  We have a big guest on with us tonight.
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  Owner creator of pick six, previews bread ciancia is with
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  us tonight. Brett, how you doing?
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  Hey, Brian, Curtis, thanks for having me on again.
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  We had a great preview chat last time last summer and I love the
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  intro there. I was ready for Enter Sandman to
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  start pumping through the speaker's here, but if not To
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  get back, talking, Virginia Tech with you guys.
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  And I'm very passionate fan base.
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  So going through a big coaching transition, I had a chance to
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  talk with Brent pry, and we'll get into that in the Virginia
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  Tech portion of the show, but excited to be back, also.
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  Yeah, man. If we, if we did saying, man, we
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  might be getting a like a season two sisters from Metallica so we
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  didn't go that. That's our buddy.
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  Jason who lives down in Roanoke, right?
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  Near Virginia Tech does all our music Force, but you know, it's
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  awesome that you got two here are taught to talk to Ha and
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  let's go ahead and kick it off, man.
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  You know print prai has had a ton of success as a defensive
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  coordinator. Both advancer built at Penn
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  State and when you're dealing with the team, with a brand new
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  head coach, how do you take into account a first-time CAD coach
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  that has done as much as he did? You know, multiple top-10
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  defense has every stop. He's been at the defense first
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  year improved significantly. How do you look at that when
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  you're doing this sort of preview?
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  Yeah, well, coaching changes are I Most Fascinating part of the
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  offseason. And in fact, this is one of the
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  biggest coaching carousels ever and it's my 11th year.
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  Doing picks previews by far, the most coaching transition we saw
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  this all season and yeah, Brent /.
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  I had a chance to speak with him like you said really likable guy
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  on the phone you know talked about the importance of getting
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  back to recruiting in-state seeing how that slipped off last
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  couple of years and the last staff, but bringing back that
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  Virginia core of the roster. But then also, to answer your
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  question, what's important about a new coach A new coaching hire
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  his hires his coordinator hires are crucial and looking at
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  offense. It's almost like he got a
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  two-for-one deal. Bring it in Bowen there and then
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  also Joe Rudolph. The, the offensive line coach
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  from Wisconsin. That's a great double double
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  whammy there. So love the The Hires on offense
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  and he has a proven track record on defense himself.
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  Leading consecutive top-10 defense has at Penn State,
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  they've been pretty much a staple and defensively last five
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  years under him. So I think you're going to see
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  more of that aggressive attacking style of play, come to
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  Virginia Tech. He'll figure out that side of
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  the ball will be with Chris Marva, foreign player of his and
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  then hand the keys over the offense.
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  These experienced guys, and one yeah, bones little bit younger,
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  but Rudolph nose, you know, offensive line, play more than
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  anybody. So I like The Hires, he's made.
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  Yeah, and Bowens obviously, you know, had some quasi
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  play-calling responsibilities under a couple other big names
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  there as well, so you got to feel Pretty confident about
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  that. Let's let's take a look at that
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  offense though. While we're talking about Tyler
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  Boeing kind of a similar question to the pry one we've
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  got a portal transfer quarterback in.
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  Grant Wells coming in with experience, pretty good amount
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  of experience but that experience came with the, with a
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  different team and in a weaker conference, how do you really
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  way that when you're looking at, you know, that versus what The
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  team did last season with a completely different
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  quarterback. That's no longer with us in the
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  completely different offense. Yeah.
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  So it's going to be a definitely a quarterback battle.
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  Their Grant Wells and Jason Brown, both guys had FCS 09.
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  SCSI non-power 5 experience with Wells from our show and Jason
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  Brown FCS All-American. Back in nineteen, LED South
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  Carolina to to Big upsets though, against SEC foes last
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  year. So awesome game experience.
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  But I think the bigger theme for the offense really is just an
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  overall transition here. You look at all the Personnel
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  gone. You're talking about quarterback
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  on lead, running back on the top.
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  Two receivers the Tight end, and three NFL lineman to.
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  And that's, that's my one of my biggest concerns there.
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  I know that Rudolph is an excellent offensive line coach.
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  I think it might take more than one fall Camp.
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  They really get that together, but yeah, answer your question,
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  their quarterback, that's wide open.
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  But this is the quarterback conference guys.
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  This year, I cover all five power, five leagues.
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  And this quarterback, the acc's quarterbacks are loaded.
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  It was really hard to whittle it down to just two guys for the
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  All Conference Team let alone I could make the argument for
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  seven guys. So when You're compared against
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  this conference this year. It's a tough spot.
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  Absolutely. And you know, the good thing
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  about it, like you said, at least, yes, we did lose Braxton
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  Burmeister, he transferred out to San Diego State, but having
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  Wells and having Brown both with a lot of experience, at one of
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  the most crucial positions is definitely key.
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  And let's talk about the offensive side of the ball on
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  that. You go through this data, you
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  look what area of the offense needs to improve for the Hokies
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  to go from that six and six six and seven middle of the road
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  type team to a more productive offense.
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  I think the key stat here would be the pass protection.
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  The sacks per attempt number I have in their sack rate, they
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  greeted outside the top 100 last year 107th and and that was with
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  like I said three NFL errs and there was a talented line
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  individually. They were great in one push but
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  pass protection. You lose Brock Hoffman Smith
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  tenuta I mean, they're all gone in the pros.
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  So, you're rebuilding that offensive line already from a
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  low starting point pass protection.
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  So, that's where I started at. Surprisingly.
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  I kind of shocking when I saw it, but they were top 20 in my
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  explosive passing metric hitting on some home runs there.
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  But again, losing your top, two receivers hurts, Virginia Tech
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  has really been hit by the transfer.
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  Portal is specifically, the receiver room.
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  It seems like the last couple of years.
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  I've been covering this, so yeah, but overall, I'd saved
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  sack rate is the number one target.
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  Let me look at her follow-up question.
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  Real split on the explosive plays because looking at the
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  data, explosive plays was great, right?
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  But every other past metric was just atrocious when you're doing
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  these and you some see something like that, like like do you have
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  to do double takes where it's like this team's explosive,
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  passes, top 20 and then you start looking in like how are
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  they over under 100 everywhere else like how does that go into?
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  You're kind of calculations about where your ranking a team.
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  Yeah, I try and look at everything and, you know, it's a
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  pretty extensive process when I'm previewing teams.
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  I'm watching spring games, I read through all the game
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  reports from last season, talking to coaches coordinators,
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  beat writers, you know, listening in the local shows.
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  So I try and look at everything. Yeah.
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  There are some weird ones that come up like that.
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  I mean, maybe that was just a home run offense, you know,
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  strikeout or a home run, maybe a hit on a good chunk of long,
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  yardage plays, but the per play, And the efficiency were down.
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  So of all the metrics their explosive passing.
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  And I think the more important one is that QB rating, that's
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  kind of all encompassing. It takes everything into account
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  and Virginia Tech was 82nd there.
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  So yeah, it's a lot of data to Crunch through.
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  Yeah, they're definitely tells a story.
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  Do you look at things like offensive Drive, efficiency?
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  Or any of those kind of advanced metrics, not so much to drive
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  efficiency. I like the per play stuff and I
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  also like my offense and defense, percentiles it takes a
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  little bit further, it grades it against the opponent's strengths
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  and what they've been averaging and factors in a couple of my
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  other metrics there. So I don't really do the drive
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  numbers that you see elsewhere. You know I kind of just geared
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  towards what makes sense to me and what is work.
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  My formulas and yeah, I like the / placed off and when you look
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  at it there at the bottom of the Virginia Tech offense page if
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  fell off a cliff last year offensively.
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  So hoping to turn that around for you guys Hunters are and I
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  love what you say that you look at the comparisons of the team
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  they're playing again. So if they're playing against a
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  bad defense and they blow up all offensively, I'm sure you're
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  like well they should have if they're playing a bad defense
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  and struggle offensive ly you're like okay there's some problems
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  there, let me ask this we talked about The offense.
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  Let's talk about the defense. The defense.
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  Looking at your magazine, lot of yellow, which not terrible, but
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  not great. What do they have to improve on
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  this year? To have a successful season
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  under Brent Pride from talking with Coach cry knowing his past
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  record. What do you think they will
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  improve? Yeah well you talk about the
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  staff box there. It's a lot of yellow.
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  There is one green line that's key for this next year and
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  that's returning production. Virginia Tech, top 25 and
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  returning production on defense. And that's usually a clear
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  indicator year every year a pointer towards Improvement.
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  So he has a lot of experienced players coming back.
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  The linebacker Duo decks how I feel and Alan Tisdale really
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  strong You out there a couple all-conference contenders in the
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  in the secondary. So, to answer your question of
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  what the weakness or the point of emphasis should be, is that
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  run defense and the defensive line, you know, that's, they
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  were outside. They were below average in all
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  my rushing defense metrics last year.
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  And, you know, you got to fortify that Center the defense.
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  So, like I said, linebackers look, strong and experienced
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  same with the defensive backs, there's some upside their
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  defensive line looks like the question mark.
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  Yeah, I think that that's what we're concerned about as well,
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  when we're looking at this defense and not just from Top in
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  talent and ability there, but also looking kind of down the
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  depth chart and not seeing a whole lot of experienced talent
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  in that group. So, defensive line, definitely a
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  concern for us, especially as you said on that, that run
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  stopping portion because there's only so much with an attacking
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  style defense that that you can do against the run.
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  It's obvious obviously going to put the quarter Back is going to
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  get rid of the ball, a lot quicker if you bring a lot of
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  pressure. But there's only so much you can
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  do on the Run game from a scheme standpoint.
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  So, you know, we'll see what Brent Pride dials up for that.
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  Let's go ahead and turn it over to some of the opponents that
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  the Hokies face. And we'll start with the with
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  the first big opponent of the, of the season for the Hokies,
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  the Boston College Eagles. Let's start it here, though.
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  Let's say we got your Kovac. He's returning.
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  If he can return to form this season, can they be better than
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  they were predicted to be last season before he lost so much
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  time. Well, tricky question there
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  because you got to look back to where they were projected last
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  year and they were actually projected, second or third in
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  the Atlantic division was sounds hard to believe looking back on
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  it. But optimism was running very
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  high for Boston College this time last year.
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  Year it was supposed to be the best offensive line that they've
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  ever had the best receiver core they've ever had in field.
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  Reykjavik was ready to take that next step towards all-conference
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  and really none of it clicked. Of course, he went down to
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  injury three games in and the offense fell off a cliff right
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  away. You know, when he was not in the
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  lineup, they were second worse in America, or I should say, in
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  power 5, so it's huge getting him back.
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  But the problem now is that great offensive line, they were
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  supposed to have, they're all in the pros.
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  Now it's an Fire rebuild up front.
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  The lone starter coming back, Christian mahogany.
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  He could have pushed for for all-conference.
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  He got injured in Spring ball, so he's out.
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  So yeah, a complete rebuild on the offensive line and when you
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  look back on some of them, you know, some of their games, and
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  their scores, and their, their grades that I have in there, my
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  game, greater, they Place, pretty poorly last year.
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  So I have them down all the way in sixth place in the Atlantic.
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  Yeah. Last year was it was a big talk
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  of BC, potentially being that team, that could challenge
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  Clemson with Phil and like you said, that offensive line.
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  It's a rebuilding and it feels like BC every few years, they do
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  rebuild the offensive line but they're they're you know,
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  they're the reduction of returning is not as much in on
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  the defensive side of the ball. They were turning a little bit
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  more there. You know second year under half
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  of who is a defensive guy, but is the defensive line, their
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  biggest question mark. And in the 2022 on that side of
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  the ball. Yeah, it's probably a similar
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  answer to what I just gave for Virginia Tech, you know, the
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  experience and the star power on Boston College.
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  Defense comes in the secondary and the linebacker room and
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  especially that secondary. They were it's hard to believe
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  that they were number three in the country and passing yards
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  per game. Allowed pass defense was strong
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  and the headliner, there is, who is that?
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  It's Jaden would be. Who was a former Florida State
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  Blue Chip recruit that haffley flipped brought him up to Boston
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  College. And he's been excellent out
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  there, so strong. Secondary improving linebacker
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  core defensive lines, probably the weakness and then that
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  they're rushing stats, show it. So Yeah, that's what we had
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  identified as well. Just looking at your work and
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  looking looking around. It looks like they're going to
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  be pretty thin on that defensive line in terms of returning
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  production and just strength. Overall, let's turn it over to
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  UVA. UVA, you know, they got a great
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  wide receiver room, great quarterback.
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  Looks like they're going to have a improved running back room
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  heading into 2022, but will this team be able to overcome the
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  mass Exodus that they Had on that offensive line.
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  Yeah, that's that's a problem for them.
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  And in a transition year to lose the entire front four, linemen
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  transferring out. And then a couple of them were
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  all-acc honors. So there's some big shoes to
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  fill their and yeah, and you wonder if that's going to hamper
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  the progress of Brandon Armstrong, he was a do-it-all
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  machine last year. Put up incredible stats, the
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  offense was humming but really the problems were in the defense
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  and I don't see an overnight fix their they have some Fewest
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  returning production in America. It's a coaching transition year
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  and while I do like the higher radzinsky definite transition,
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  it has transition your written all over it.
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  So they're going to need to outscore teams.
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  They certainly can with Armstrong but he's going to need
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  protection. That receiver core is one of the
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  best in the conference though and all that Firepower is back
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  again, don't forget, they got, they get back, Lavell Davis, who
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  was a great freshman there two years ago, it was out last year,
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  and in return to the lineup. So a lot of Firepower on
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  offense. Yeah, their biggest question,
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  there is definitely that old line and we saw at the end of
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  last year, it was, it had a couple good players, but overall
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  they were beat up and you know you could break through and not
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  give Armstrong the time to make those passes and to me if that
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  doesn't improve mean, they look like again maybe a 5 to 7 win
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  team with all that offensive power off by Firepower it, you
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  know you just mentioned there, you know, Tony Elliot hired John
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  rosinski as a defensive coordinator lot of Access that
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  Air Force you know with the military school there but their
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  secondary has been absolutely horrible the last few years
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  which is shocking on the Bronco, Mendenhall being a defensive Guy
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  having a track record so can rosinski get their pass rush
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  enough to really cover up that week secondary?
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  Or is it going to be another long year for them on the
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  defensive side of the ball? Yeah.
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  Well first off I like to hire like a hit on and and obviously
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  Coach Elliot did too. He said they crossed paths in
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  the coaching clinic and, you know, he was, he found it
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  appealing, that radzinsky had success recruiting within some
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  stuff confines. I mean, I know it's a loose
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  comparison but the military credentials to get into the air
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  force compared to the high academics of UVA.
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  He made that comparison. So take that with a grain of
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  salt but it looks like a good fit, you know, Virginia
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  experimented with three man base last year and really backfired
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  and that's really been rosinski bread and butters is 34 base.
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  So, We'll see if he has a better chance at rebuilding.
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  It last year was a disaster and and you lose a lot of star
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  players. So yeah, I don't see any
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  overnight fix longer-term, looks okay, but that's kind of why I
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  have Virginia outside the top three.
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  I had them tied. Actually with Virginia Tech
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  forth in the coastal behind. Miami pit and UNC.
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  Yeah, it's going to be a big head to head.
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  Yes. Especially after the field
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  storming last year on opponent Turf.
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  So That's a great for the Rivalry but we have Stadium.
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  North Lane Stadium. North Brett.
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  Just always remember. Yeah, that was incredible to see
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  and that that actually wasn't the only one I saw out in the
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  apple cup, Washington State, fans, stormed Husky Stadium,
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  husky field, wherever the cone and you Dove and planted a flag
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  there. So it's a new trend.
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  I'm seeing opposing field storming, exactly?
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  All right. Well, let's take a look at
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  probably a field storming that will never happen at either.
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  Location is when Virginia Tech players.
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  West Virginia for the Black Diamond trophy.
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  One of the most heated rivalries in the 90s and early 2000s, came
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  back in 2017. They now play a home and home
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  last year in Morgantown where the Hokies came up inches short
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  from taking out a dub. But a lots changed in up there.
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  Neal Brown is third year in the biggest is on the offensive side
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  of the football. He is going are a with G Peril
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  hail recruited. The guy he was coaching out at
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  USC JT, Daniels, gets him pick some up out of Georgia, you
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  know. they sing some blue-chip, quarterbacks and Harold himself
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  has seen some blue-chip, quarterbacks Is the Airaid
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  system going to be enough of a difference to improve this
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  offense than what they've looked like the past few years which is
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  just been kind of men. Yeah it's been a really weak
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  offense. They've been defense first under
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  Neil Brown and it's kind of hard to believe given his offensive
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  background. He used to call it as NASCAR
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  offense of how fast they were in between snaps running to the
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  line. None of that.
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  Even they didn't come close to that, it West Virginia so far.
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  So complete overhaul, Glee, we saw Graham Harrell turn around
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  USC, overnight program out there that was known as tailback you
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  for generations and he comes in and says, no, no more.
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  Tailback we're going 5 wide, Throwing It All Over the field.
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  Now, they put up great numbers, so he's turned around and
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  offense before coming in here. Yeah, you bring in a former
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  five-star. Our mats, it's rare to pull off
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  like that and yeah, I think the JT Daniels, I'll ask some
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  success here he was. I thought he was fine at Georgia
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  to but, you know, it's going to be hard to Or take steps and
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  Bennett. So he wanted to try a new power
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  5 opportunity. The problem I don't think will
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  be the offense. It's this huge transition that
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  they have on defense. Basically, the entire units gone
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  except for Stills, in the middle who's who's a great talent
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  himself but complete rebuild on defense.
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  So it looks like they're their strength kind of flipped this
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  time around. Yeah, and flipping to the other
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  side of the ball, they kind of look like our wide receiver
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  room. They had a mass Exodus to the
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  transfer portal from, from that side.
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  And they were solid of sometimes inconsistent in 2021.
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  They return their best defender though Dante.
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  Stills, does this team still have enough town on that side of
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  the ball and downstream in the to and 3D to really fill those
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  holes that the portal created? I don't think so, to be honest,
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  I mean, first off, you look at They brought in and this wasn't
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  anywhere near a top-10 transfer class or anything like that.
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  So it was all one way it was. It was out the front door,
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  exiting the program and these guys weren't transferring down.
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  They weren't guys that went to the FCS level.
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  I mean, most of these guys were plucked off by other power 5
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  defense, has now Darrell Porter and Method or both to Miami.
• 20:43
  Who else you got a guy going to Colorado?
• 20:44
  Jackie Matthews down the Mississippi State, and don't
• 20:47
  forget this time. Last year, their best defender
• 20:49
  on the team. Tai Chi Smith was Just Away by
• 20:52
  Georgia. So it's a talent drain on
• 20:54
  defense. No, real big transfers coming in
• 20:58
  as a class and then you look back to the recruiting profile
• 21:01
  and it's outside the top 40. So, I don't see any reason why
• 21:04
  that will be an overnight fix for them.
• 21:08
  All right, the one thing I love about you.
• 21:10
  Brett is you admit when you're wrong reading, the magazine
• 21:15
  night, open it up and you immediately said I was
• 21:19
  completely wrong UNC last year. Many people do not do that.
• 21:23
  I respect the hell out of you because you open up one of the
• 21:26
  first few pages you admitted it. Now this year you can see has
• 21:32
  one of the worst production returns after the loss of Hal
• 21:35
  and tie Chandler. 2,000-yard running back the good.
• 21:38
  Sketcher and Josh Downs is really their only proven
• 21:41
  offensive weapon. They do have some line returning
• 21:45
  but I mean is this team going to be able to reload with the
• 21:48
  unproven depth or do they look again like last year a 6 win
• 21:53
  team? Yeah well that's a great Point
• 21:56
  talking about last year's pick and you know it's a point of
• 21:58
  Pride to have the most accurate magazine.
• 22:00
  I have the five-year title so I do like the to celebrate the
• 22:03
  wins but like you said, you got to acknowledge the losses and
• 22:07
  make no doubt about it. The UNC pick last year was the
• 22:09
  worst pick I've ever done in 10 years.
• 22:11
  I mean, it's just did nothing came true.
• 22:13
  They were a completely different team than what we saw the year
• 22:14
  before and yeah, it was a total Miss.
• 22:17
  So, here we are in 2022. It's a program that has improved
• 22:20
  it yet and I don't see why they will it.
• 22:23
  I can't I can't take him high again until they go out and
• 22:25
  prove it themselves. And you know, Sam Howell gone at
• 22:28
  quarterback. Some offensive linemen are gone
• 22:31
  but that offensive line themselves.
• 22:32
  It was pretty weak. Last year.
• 22:34
  Pass protection. Was weak.
• 22:37
  What else we got? Got ya.
• 22:38
  So I mean they have a great recruiting profile.
• 22:40
  You're just waiting for that to click and it's just hasn't yet.
• 22:42
  So you know, it's a matter of time.
• 22:45
  You'd say, I like their change. I bring it in gene, chizik on
• 22:48
  defense, getting some aggressiveness from attacking
• 22:51
  style and defense. They were to finesse on their
• 22:53
  Bateman. So maybe that triggers a, you
• 22:55
  know, a switch here. But for now I have them third in
• 22:59
  the Atlantic or third the coastal.
• 23:00
  I should say, sorry, and 40th, overall, Yeah, that's that's my
• 23:05
  question on defense, you know, yet she isn't coming in,
• 23:08
  obviously, Bateman that. That that defense just couldn't
• 23:11
  get going last year but you talking about that returning
• 23:15
  production? Everything is this the success
• 23:17
  for this team? Really going to depend on how
• 23:19
  much better that defense has this year.
• 23:21
  Yeah, defense is huge, but really just the overall program
• 23:24
  mindset. I mean, when you listen to Mack
• 23:26
  Brown speak, he was saying how the team was way too
• 23:28
  overconfident back in last August and last September, they
• 23:31
  are reading their own press clippings.
• 23:33
  He he says, and of all teams Virginia Tech punch them right
• 23:36
  in the mouth right away. And and that was even that
• 23:38
  wasn't even Saturday. They'll even make it to the
• 23:40
  opening day was Thursday night and that that pic was thrown out
• 23:44
  the window right away. But but no, I think that you saw
• 23:47
  it all season. They were quitting during playes
• 23:49
  quitting during games. So I think this goes deeper than
• 23:52
  just an X's and O's, they got to have a whole culture rebuild up
• 23:55
  with in that Locker. Got it?
• 23:59
  Yeah, that makes sense. Let's go ahead and flip it from
• 24:02
  you and see to the team that won the ACC last year.
• 24:06
  The Pitt Panthers How much higher would pits returning
• 24:12
  production be if Addison did not leave and let's also add this in
• 24:18
  there. Is he the bigger loss or is
• 24:21
  their offensive coordinator? Whipple that that left.
• 24:26
  Okay, that's great question. So I think the Addison's a
• 24:29
  bigger loss in the immediate term.
• 24:31
  I mean that was a playmaker. Do it all guy Biletnikoff winner
• 24:35
  for Forex ache. So yeah.
• 24:37
  So losing him in the fashion that he left very bizarre but
• 24:42
  yeah that certainly hurts because with him coming back
• 24:44
  this this offense was looking perfect besides a quarterback
• 24:47
  and you brought him to power 5 experienced guy, Keaton slovis
• 24:50
  and looked like all five offensive lineman or back and
• 24:53
  and that this offense wasn't going to miss a step.
• 24:55
  But now you know how big a difference a guy makes you look
• 24:59
  back. Now you can argue okay?
• 25:00
  The Heisman candidate is gone. The blind, the cough Winters
• 25:03
  gone and The Mastermind Behind The Thing, Mark Whipple's gone.
• 25:05
  So that shift more towards a transition Year, my opinion and
• 25:10
  you know, very physical team. Their strength is really the
• 25:13
  defense. I talked to opposing coaches in
• 25:15
  the Atlantic division and Coastal Division and they all
• 25:18
  mention pits physicality and you see it especially that defensive
• 25:21
  line. So that'll carry him again.
• 25:24
  I think there's still a solid top.
• 25:25
  Top 20 team, but questions on offense now.
• 25:29
  Yeah. And you kind of answer it there
• 25:31
  about the level of success for 20 or 21 how much their defense
• 25:35
  is going to have to stay especially their past defense
• 25:38
  because nor doozies known as a defensive mind.
• 25:40
  And he is a very good defensive coach.
• 25:42
  We hate him down in Blacksburg. And there's the white Vic.
• 25:48
  Virginia, Tech Legends chiming in about they should be solid
• 25:52
  but to get back to that. Let's say nine.
• 25:56
  Ten wins. How big of a step does that pass
• 26:00
  defense have to take because if it's only mediocre, are they
• 26:03
  back to where they were at like 20 1920, 18 wins seven or eight
• 26:07
  games and just not looking as good?
• 26:11
  Well, it's a great question, I think, when you look at patent
• 26:13
  are doozies track record as a defensive coordinator and now a
• 26:16
  defensive minded head coach, his defenses are always the same.
• 26:19
  They're always attacking their always leading the league and
• 26:21
  leaving the conference. I'm sorry.
• 26:23
  Placing the national top 10, even in tackles, for loss sacks,
• 26:27
  my - play Metric. Loves them and, and you see it.
• 26:30
  But on the other side of the coin there, by bringing, so much
• 26:34
  resources in the blitz there, Overexposed in the pass game in
• 26:38
  the secondary. So you see more long yardage?
• 26:40
  Breakdowns if they don't hit home on their sacks.
• 26:42
  So all that to say this defensive line is strong again,
• 26:47
  can't see earned All-American honors last year he's back and
• 26:50
  the linebacker group does lose a couple multi-year starters.
• 26:53
  But again such a proven track record on to the staff.
• 26:56
  Charlie Partridge one of the best coaches, they're on the
• 26:59
  defensive line and I really trust the pit rebuilds and
• 27:02
  OneNote to leave you with with pit.
• 27:04
  Is that over the last three years, in my defensive
• 27:07
  percentile average their fourth in the nation, only behind a
• 27:10
  Laburnum. I'm a Georgia, Clemson pits
• 27:12
  right there, number four, so yeah, the secondary might have
• 27:15
  some problems. But overall is the defense,
• 27:17
  there are proven commodity Yeah absolutely.
• 27:20
  And it's every year he proves it, you know, we've gotten a
• 27:23
  couple, we've got him a couple of times and when you get if he
• 27:27
  is it's actually a fun, sideline show to watch because he gets
• 27:30
  really angry when his team's getting beaten, especially on
• 27:33
  the defensive side of the ball. All right?
• 27:35
  I'm gonna flip this because we got a few more minutes with you
• 27:37
  here. You got NC State.
• 27:40
  Clemson in my name is your three.
• 27:41
  Highest ranked ACC teams Could any of those team cracked the
• 27:49
  playoffs? In your opinion, if things break
• 27:52
  the right way? Well yeah.
• 27:55
  I mean of course anybody can break it.
• 27:56
  Here's the here's what's got to happen.
• 27:57
  You've got to win the conference with one loss.
• 27:59
  So you got to come out of their 12 and 11 or 13 to know
• 28:02
  obviously but twelve and one pretty much cements you a ticket
• 28:05
  to the playoffs and you saw with pit last year, a surprise team
• 28:08
  out of nowhere. They would go in the coastal and
• 28:11
  they win the conference but they're sitting there with that
• 28:13
  second loss. That that Mac loss at the
• 28:15
  beginning of the Season really cost them had.
• 28:18
  They have just taken care of business against the Mac team.
• 28:20
  They be 12 + 1 and undoubtedly in the playoffs last year.
• 28:23
  So, So yeah, the question really is, can somebody go 12 in 1 in
• 28:28
  this league? And I think it's a really
• 28:30
  crowded conference now, especially the Atlantic is
• 28:32
  loaded at the top. It was really a tough exercise,
• 28:35
  trying to parse that out the top-5 over there.
• 28:37
  I mean, Clemson's The Proven commodity The Proven Dynasty NC
• 28:40
  State looks like it's their best team in school history
• 28:42
  especially defensively and the quarterback with Evan Leary.
• 28:46
  So a lot of high upside there Wake Forest, they continue to
• 28:49
  win games. They're the defending Atlantic
• 28:51
  Champs, but then seems like Florida State in Louisville.
• 28:53
  I have Skyrocketing in the right direction.
• 28:56
  Florida, State led by the defense Louisville by their
• 28:58
  offense. If they can get some
• 29:00
  complimentary play from their other sides of the balls.
• 29:03
  That's a lot of quality teams in the ACC.
• 29:05
  So long story short, I think they're going to beat each other
• 29:08
  up at the top, you're going to have a two or three lost champ
• 29:11
  and that shouldn't be a knock on the conference.
• 29:13
  I think it's stronger than it was a year ago and is trending
• 29:16
  in the right direction. Albeit, maybe not a playoff
• 29:19
  Contender this year. Yeah, let me get one quick
• 29:22
  follow-up on that. So, You talk to the Clemson
• 29:25
  being established team if they're going to be the team
• 29:27
  that since as conference champion at the end of the year,
• 29:29
  is that all going to revolve around?
• 29:32
  How good DJ you plays this year? Absolutely.
• 29:36
  And but he needs some help to I mean, last year the receiver
• 29:39
  core was banged up and it fell down to a lot of true freshman
• 29:42
  and redshirt freshman and they just couldn't produce.
• 29:45
  And then the offensive line, the offensive line had best staple
• 29:48
  for them. Usually finishing number one, in
• 29:50
  the country, in yards per carry, all those etn Seasons, they were
• 29:53
  always number one, So that took a step back.
• 29:55
  So nothing was really clicking at all.
• 29:56
  They were stuck in the mud and then yes, of course DJ you is is
• 30:00
  under Center and he's the triggerman but everything else
• 30:03
  around and failed soon. Clemson's going through a double
• 30:05
  coordinator change to, which is rare for such a program of
• 30:09
  coordinator continuity. And last bid on Clemson is that
• 30:12
  while the other Powerhouse programs have embraced the
• 30:14
  transfer portal and and used it to bring in all-conference
• 30:17
  caliber guys to patch up some roster.
• 30:19
  Holes Clemson's really been anti portal.
• 30:22
  So I wonder if that starts to catch up to him.
• 30:24
  Um and so I'm not confident that they return to the playoff.
• 30:28
  We got a couple more minutes here and I'm going to ask one
• 30:30
  National question and then we're going to let you get out of here
• 30:33
  and do some promo. I'm not going to count.
• 30:36
  Utah, Utah, as your number 14, Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia.
• 30:42
  The three Blue Bloods, which of those three could you see,
• 30:46
  missed the playoffs, you've looked at the data, you do see
• 30:50
  them as the three of the best teams in the country, but what,
• 30:54
  which one of them is walking on thin ice?
• 30:57
  Where if they make one mistake or have one position get hurt,
• 31:01
  it could really basically in their chances to making it to
• 31:05
  the National Championship. Yeah, that's a great question.
• 31:08
  I think I'll take the two SEC teams just given the fact of how
• 31:11
  rare and hard it is to cram two teams from one League into the
• 31:15
  playoff bracket. So they're both on thin ice.
• 31:18
  They don't have much margin of error of those two options.
• 31:21
  I'd say Georgia is the is has a weaker link just on on their
• 31:25
  youth and I know that's a boring answer but they just set an NFL
• 31:29
  record, 15 draft picks and could get, was the murderer the most
• 31:33
  ever first round of fenders. And Most offenders in the first
• 31:36
  three rounds also. So and the thing about Georgia
• 31:39
  they do rotate their players a lot.
• 31:41
  So it might not be quote unquote returning starters but they're
• 31:44
  experienced. But still I mean, when you're
• 31:46
  trying to fit two SEC teams into a 14 bracket I'll say George is
• 31:51
  the weak link there. Makes sense plus can Stetson
• 31:57
  Bennett and underrated quarterback play like he did
• 32:00
  last year after you have two full-time starting job.
• 32:03
  Well, Brett, we know you have another show to go to.
• 32:06
  You are a busy man. This week, tell everybody where
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• 32:13
  Twitter, tell us what they can get the stuff.
• 32:15
  Because guys week me and Brian already have it.
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  You should go get it to thanks for the promo there.
• 32:21
  I appreciate it. Thanks for the purchases.
• 32:24
  The High Praise. He's and again for having me on,
• 32:26
  so years in a row always enjoy our talks.
• 32:28
  Yeah, it's pick six, previews.com and a pick six
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• 32:34
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• 32:37
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• 32:39
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• 32:43
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• 32:46
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• 32:54
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• 33:15
  It's an exciting time of year, everyone's undefeated.
• 33:17
  So I love talking football and August and the season will be
• 33:20
  here before we know it. Well, thanks for coming on with
• 33:22
  this Brett. We appreciate it again.
• 33:24
  It's gonna we got to make this an annual thing, because it's
• 33:27
  always a good time to for you to come on and share your knowledge
• 33:30
  with us. Share your knowledge with our
• 33:32
  lister's, really offshore and I gotta get back down to
• 33:34
  Blacksburg. I had once been down there, 2009
• 33:38
  for the Nebraska game randomly, but I want to get back there now
• 33:41
  that I'm of age to really enjoy, you know what I'm saying?
• 33:44
  I was, there we go, but I looked like a great time and a
• 33:48
  beautiful campus and and obviously the passionate fans.
• 33:51
  So it's been great interacting with so many of you online and
• 33:54
  the Virginia Tech media at large.
• 33:57
  You know, you can tell you guys love your football.
• 34:00
  We appreciate that, bro. You let us know if you come down
• 34:02
  to Blacksburg, will try our best to get down there as well and we
• 34:05
  appreciate you coming on again this year.
• 34:08
  And, you know, we look forward to having you back again in 2023
• 34:12
  and hopefully better terms for our Hokies.
• 34:15
  But man you do an awesome job of the Magazine's awesome.
• 34:18
  You take care of yourself out there and have a great woman.
• 34:22
  Okay, thanks Brian. Curtis, appreciate it.
• 34:24
  See you in a few see you. Well that was fun man.
• 34:28
  Yeah, it was. When we got to the end, we did
• 34:31
  not think we were going to get to talk to the three other teams
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• 35:08
  Now back to the episode Alrighty so Bryan we weren't going to
• 35:14
  lead with this in the second half but I mean when it breaks
• 35:17
  like this you got to talk about it.
• 35:20
  This afternoon Triumph and il-1 of the lead ones for Virginia.
• 35:24
  Tech reports 28 additional football players on top of the
• 35:29
  four that we mentioned a couple weeks ago have signed with
• 35:32
  triumphs getting an investment of up to 300 thousand dollars.
• 35:38
  So the young guys get A little cash in the pocket.
• 35:43
  Yeah, yeah, we're spread the love a little bit here.
• 35:46
  I like that. We're getting money into more
• 35:49
  players hands on the active roster.
• 35:53
  You know whether you think this goes far enough or whatever.
• 35:56
  Yet I agree. There's other schools out there
• 35:59
  doing more, but you got to celebrate the wins when they
• 36:03
  come and this is definitely a win, no matter how you slice it,
• 36:07
  especially, you know, spreading that out over twenty, eight
• 36:09
  additional players. Shout out to Brandon Hill and
• 36:13
  Kevin Jones, a part of that Collective putting these things
• 36:16
  together for these athletes. Nothing.
• 36:19
  But good things going forward and this definitely puts us at
• 36:23
  least in the conversation. Like Brent proud, was talking
• 36:25
  about with the ni L stuff. Absolutely.
• 36:29
  And if you take a look at the name's Andy, bitter, put a good
• 36:33
  tweet out because the way he had it set up, you can definitely go
• 36:36
  on Triumph website and read it. But if you look at the games to
• 36:40
  me, The majority of these guys are proven, they proven, they
• 36:45
  can play their in the 2D in, in this, the kind of the way it
• 36:50
  should be. I mean, it's not the way it's
• 36:51
  gonna be but the way it should be, if you're a proven guys when
• 36:55
  you get roughly, if you take a look that's roughly ten thousand
• 36:58
  dollars and I'm sure it's probably some guys are getting
• 37:01
  the last. Some guys are getting a little
• 37:02
  more and obviously you got the top 4 guys are probably getting
• 37:05
  a really good penny. But there's not a name on here
• 37:09
  Brian that we don't know. Or haven't talked about it's not
• 37:13
  like it's the sixth string. I like how is he on there?
• 37:17
  Yeah these are. These are two big guys.
• 37:18
  These are guys that are seeing the field most games if not
• 37:22
  every game. And I think that that's where we
• 37:26
  are at this point and I think that's probably good enough for
• 37:31
  now, but we definitely need to keep this this train moving and
• 37:37
  the more investment the better. And you know, I've talked about
• 37:40
  it with some people at this point, you know, when I'm, you
• 37:44
  know, making a donation to The Hokie scholarship fund, I'm
• 37:50
  going to also turn around and match that with one of the ni L
• 37:52
  collectors from now on they you go.
• 37:55
  That's the way it's got to be. You've got it.
• 37:57
  You've got to look both ways now.
• 37:59
  And obviously those guys are going to have Investments,
• 38:02
  they're going to find people, you know, you take a look at
• 38:05
  Malachi Thomas. They found literally a it looked
• 38:09
  like a Ford dealership in his neck of the woods that wanted to
• 38:13
  sponsor him in Malachi was driving on you Ranger.
• 38:17
  I'm down the road, great for him.
• 38:18
  Also know that kid, so good. Things on that front.
• 38:23
  Hopefully we'll see more from Some of the other collectives
• 38:25
  out there but Brian. Well first of all if you see us
• 38:30
  look up, yes, this would you say earlier today Brian this is the
• 38:37
  from now for starting today from now until the week of
• 38:41
  Valentine's Day, there's not a single week that doesn't have
• 38:45
  football. Nice single week.
• 38:47
  Football is back in Camp is open for business as of Tuesday.
• 38:56
  And it's just that time of year. I'm Nicole de sac tonight, man,
• 39:00
  we had some pizza with some neighbors.
• 39:02
  Had a couple drinks everybody shooting Breeze and me and you
• 39:05
  know, we're talking season starting, you know, hey we're
• 39:08
  going to get together on Thursday nights watching all so
• 39:13
  it's time. It's ready man.
• 39:15
  But let's talk this, let's start Brent pry.
• 39:18
  Quick interview after practice on Wednesday and Something that
• 39:27
  I thought he was very upfront about day one.
• 39:29
  They had some issues about some non competitiveness now Brian.
• 39:35
  Is this something that in your years of your you played
• 39:39
  Collegiate football, you played High School football, is this,
• 39:41
  something that could happen on day one?
• 39:43
  Or is this kind of out of the ordinary?
• 39:47
  I've said it before, I'll say it again.
• 39:49
  If a Coach is satisfied with day one, whether it's effort,
• 39:53
  whether it's Just the product on the field.
• 39:57
  That's a red flag. That's a red flag because no
• 40:02
  team is out there winning day one because it's like I like the
• 40:09
  motto always say is sometimes happy.
• 40:12
  Never satisfied. That's the mindset.
• 40:16
  You need to have, as a coach sometimes, happy never satisfied
• 40:19
  and if you're satisfied on day one, there's no way to go but
• 40:22
  down. So I think you know regardless
• 40:26
  of what the reality was that's a good message to send to your
• 40:30
  teen out. The gate, they one wasn't good
• 40:32
  enough, boys, get out there and do better compete more.
• 40:36
  We're not there yet. Absolutely.
• 40:39
  You love the messaging and then he comes out day to and says it
• 40:44
  was better today. They were more competitive.
• 40:46
  They were more fighting. So, you know, as much as it was
• 40:51
  a message day one, there's also the praise there to make sure
• 40:54
  they, you know, you're getting in the right direction.
• 40:58
  And again, we all feel it with prai.
• 41:00
  He's very candid. You don't feel like he's holding
• 41:03
  anything back. And when he said this, I'm still
• 41:06
  trying to think. I'm okay where we that bad and
• 41:10
  now we're much better or are we legitimately taking, you know,
• 41:14
  the offense is making strides in the offseason?
• 41:19
  I mean, I mean that could be a million things, right?
• 41:21
  Brian. It could I don't know if he's
• 41:24
  being relative to where the defense is, I mean typically
• 41:28
  start a camp defenses are ahead of the offense so the fact that
• 41:33
  the offense was out there doing anything.
• 41:37
  Yeah. Is either indicative of, as
• 41:40
  process, some lack of efforts and some lack of competitiveness
• 41:43
  from the defense. And it could also be that, that
• 41:47
  offense has taken some strides that those that, that
• 41:49
  installation has helped that seeing some new plays that they
• 41:54
  didn't see in spring or some some, some new formations or
• 41:58
  some new routes throughout Concepts that they didn't see,
• 42:01
  in Spring, might be throwing them off a little bit.
• 42:04
  It could be a combination of all those things.
• 42:06
  So, But it is definitely a good sign that the offense is show in
• 42:11
  life. So early in Camp, it shows that
• 42:14
  the efforts that they made at the end of spring.
• 42:17
  And in the summer workouts are paying some dividends because I
• 42:20
  know that they were talking about a lot of installation for
• 42:23
  the full offensive package was taking place.
• 42:26
  After spring practice most of the base stuff was put in and
• 42:30
  spraying and then they started building on that as we went into
• 42:32
  the summer. Absolutely.
• 42:36
  So hopefully, Again, there's just a lot of unknowns and, you
• 42:41
  know, we talked about a few minutes ago even though we did
• 42:45
  have guys get drafted on the offensive line, there are some
• 42:50
  guys coming back with experience.
• 42:53
  Like a Johnny Jordan who did not get as much PT last year but was
• 42:56
  a 13-mile team Big Ten guy. Now something that was brought
• 43:01
  up and for me and you and other fans, you look at them and you
• 43:04
  say why can't they play? You know, somebody asked Prime
• 43:08
  and I can't remember which report was if I did.
• 43:10
  I'd give you the shout out, you'll know that.
• 43:12
  But he talked about guys physically ready like Xavier.
• 43:16
  Chaplain Lamar law and Malachi from here in the r-va in
• 43:22
  prowess. Just up front.
• 43:23
  Yeah. Baby for six weeks, they're
• 43:26
  ready. But he's like right now they've
• 43:27
  got to adjust emotionally socially academically.
• 43:32
  And you know it's it tells you that it's not just Malachi is
• 43:40
  six foot three and a half and he's 300 pounds.
• 43:44
  That's what I see is, I'm looking at the NFL, that's the
• 43:47
  size some of those guys, but how much important is that other
• 43:50
  stuff for on for young man? Getting to college and just
• 43:53
  getting on campus in probably the last four to six weeks?
• 43:57
  I mean, yeah, it's a big adjustment and, you know, just
• 44:00
  being physically, ready usually isn't enough, you know, I don't
• 44:04
  think this is, oh, well, you know, he missed a block at
• 44:08
  practice. So all of a sudden, he's in the
• 44:10
  doghouse for four to six weeks, this is more about The maturity
• 44:15
  on and off the field, this is more about understanding and
• 44:19
  adjusting to all these new things that most of these
• 44:24
  players are experiencing for the first time and making sure that
• 44:26
  they can handle all of that and football because being a
• 44:30
  Collegiate football, player is essentially like working two
• 44:34
  jobs. And at that and that's a big
• 44:38
  thing. It's a you know you wake up at
• 44:41
  7:00 or before every morning, you're doing everything you need
• 44:46
  to do. Usually sometimes six, if you're
• 44:48
  getting a film session in before class and that's running until,
• 44:51
  you know, 8:00 9:00 10:00 every every night.
• 44:55
  You're pretty much going nonstop, especially in Camp,
• 44:59
  once can't breaks, you got, you got classes, obviously, picking
• 45:02
  up there. So there's a lot of adjustments
• 45:04
  that these kids. They're kind of taking on and,
• 45:07
  you know, just being physically, there doesn't necessarily mean
• 45:10
  that you're ready to play. And and that's not talking about
• 45:13
  the the social side and just learning The Playbook.
• 45:17
  There's that, you got to find your place within the team where
• 45:21
  you fit in and you got to make sure that you understand the
• 45:23
  Playbook. So when you get put in the game,
• 45:25
  you're not making that key mistake that that blows up a
• 45:28
  play. I love you.
• 45:30
  Speaking of this thing because it goes, it says a lot.
• 45:32
  And like you, like you mentioned.
• 45:33
  Those guys probably are physically.
• 45:35
  A to play but they have to get their mentally and I love you
• 45:38
  saying, they've got to find their Circle where they fit in
• 45:41
  socially. These got to get adjusted.
• 45:42
  Even though these next few weeks are going to be, they're not
• 45:45
  going to have a social life but you got to find a way on the
• 45:48
  team to fit in socially so I love it.
• 45:51
  Alright so something I can't remember if we knew this or not,
• 45:54
  I didn't remember. But last year the big heavy
• 45:57
  practice was in the morning will bring for.
• 46:00
  I don't do things like that. Brent R, I won't sit in the
• 46:03
  afternoon and he wants us. This practice has to be hot and
• 46:07
  hard. Are you shocked not shot and I
• 46:10
  love it. Oh, I know you would we you know
• 46:14
  we talked about it before Camp is where that where the hard
• 46:19
  stuff is by the time you get to the first game.
• 46:22
  Hell even by the time you get to that last that last scrimmage of
• 46:26
  camp It should be easy, Camp should be hard camp.
• 46:31
  Camp is meant to be hard and if you want to get players used to
• 46:36
  hard, you play him at the hottest part of the day with
• 46:39
  full pads on and, and that's what I like to see.
• 46:43
  Obviously, they're not in full pads yet.
• 46:44
  They're still out there in shells and shells, but you know,
• 46:49
  they'll get there, and I liked it, it's in the afternoon, I
• 46:54
  like the hard. I mean, I know I talked about it
• 46:57
  with with Curtis. I mean you know we when we were
• 47:00
  going through you know almost 20 years ago.
• 47:02
  Now we had 3 to 3 and a practices three meetings a day.
• 47:09
  We go shells in the morning, full pads in the afternoon and
• 47:12
  then we'd have a helmets. Only walk through in the
• 47:14
  evening, install, in the morning, the afternoon, usually
• 47:18
  special teams emphasis in the third meeting.
• 47:21
  So it was all day and it was a lot, but that's what campus for
• 47:29
  Absolutely. Now, you've been talking about
• 47:31
  the insoles to in kind of the way.
• 47:35
  It Brent Pride talked about it is, they have a morning.
• 47:38
  It's almost like they have a morning install and afternoon
• 47:41
  install, and then they do night film reviews when you look at
• 47:46
  the way that set up. So, it's install install hard
• 47:49
  practice film review in the evening which I'm guessing they
• 47:53
  probably get there have breakfast morning install.
• 47:58
  Lunch at the facility. Afternoon install practice
• 48:02
  dinner its facility. Then a film review.
• 48:04
  Probably individual coaching. Do you like the way that
• 48:07
  structured and and why? Yeah, I mean, it really goes
• 48:13
  back to kind of when you look at how people learn and things like
• 48:17
  that and, you know, coming for having a teacher as a as a wife,
• 48:21
  having kind of went through teacher prep, myself, you teach
• 48:25
  a concept You let the student, apply the concept and then you
• 48:30
  correct. And that's what we're seeing
• 48:33
  with how they're setting this up.
• 48:35
  You teach you teach in the morning and the early afternoon
• 48:39
  you go out there at the heavy practice of the day at 4:00 and
• 48:42
  you apply and then you Circle back in the evening after dinner
• 48:47
  and you correct. Probably looking at film because
• 48:51
  I'm assuming everything. There is getting filmed where it
• 48:55
  can already be instructed in. Then again, I'm guessing what
• 48:59
  happens next morning, so they look at the film review.
• 49:01
  Do you think it's like, are they reiterating where the errors
• 49:04
  were in those morning, installs, and then slowly building?
• 49:09
  Well, the one thing after the film review, individually with
• 49:12
  the players, when the players head back to the dorms for the
• 49:15
  night, the coaches are now getting together and they're
• 49:18
  saying, all right, who did? What welded a what do we need to
• 49:21
  emphasize? Tomorrow is their accession in
• 49:25
  installation where we need to kind of hammer a little bit
• 49:28
  more. Is there a session in practices
• 49:31
  where we need a little extra work?
• 49:32
  Like well, what do we see in practice?
• 49:35
  What do we see from the plays installed and how they were
• 49:38
  executed in practice that we need to really work on the next
• 49:42
  day. So there's some fluidity with
• 49:45
  how those sessions are run in practice and how those sessions
• 49:47
  are running that install. It is awesome to hear, man.
• 49:52
  So again, and just hearing Brent, pry, you can just hear
• 49:55
  the emotion in the fun, he's having in his voice, you could
• 49:58
  hear in the background. You can it sounds like the
• 50:02
  players were having fun. I'm assuming they were doing ice
• 50:05
  baths and joking around. After practice, you can do your
• 50:07
  it in it and I don't felt like we've seen that.
• 50:11
  So again, at the players are having fun, you know, that
• 50:15
  they're using you. Let it all hang out when you
• 50:19
  have fun, it's just the way it goes.
• 50:20
  All right, something we're going to keep an eye on obviously over
• 50:24
  these next few weeks, either in Camp, quarterback rep, watch,
• 50:28
  who's getting, how much who's running with the ones?
• 50:31
  I think Brian right now after spring, excuse me, after Brent,
• 50:36
  prize comments, you know, in the summer, this is really Grant
• 50:40
  Wells jobs to lose. yeah, that that's my feeling as well and I
• 50:45
  don't think that there's a whole lot that he would have to do a
• 50:50
  whole lot wrong to lose it. At this point, I feel like
• 50:53
  there's not much that the others can do to pass him, it's going
• 50:56
  to be if he's out there being inconsistent with the football,
• 50:59
  whether that's turnovers, whether that's overthrows, you
• 51:03
  know, whatever it may be. It's definitely something that
• 51:07
  he would need to lose. Not something that I think he
• 51:09
  can be overtaken with a performance.
• 51:11
  Yep, but as much, as you say that I still love them.
• 51:15
  Brent prize non-committal. Because he's leaving that carrot
• 51:18
  out there. Not only for Grant but for Jason
• 51:20
  Brown and don't get me wrong. Do I think Jason Brown could
• 51:23
  come in here and absolutely. If he plays like he did against
• 51:27
  Georgia Auburn in practice, could he get up and get right at
• 51:31
  Grant Wells? If Wells, doesn't keep the pedal
• 51:33
  to the metal? Yes.
• 51:34
  I think that could happen very easily.
• 51:37
  Like, like Brett said, he was an FCS All-American at st.
• 51:41
  Francis. He won a couple big games down
• 51:43
  at South Carolina last year, we're not dealing With the guy
• 51:47
  who's, you know, just a run-of-the-mill back up, the
• 51:50
  guy's a legitimate starter and, you know, I don't think I think
• 51:56
  Wells knows it. So I don't think Wells is going
• 51:58
  to take the foot off the gas, but I think his he knows I think
• 52:01
  Brown is trying to get that job. Yeah.
• 52:04
  I mean Browns definitely driving and I mean, it looks like from
• 52:08
  the observations from practice, you know, Browns had some good
• 52:11
  throws been pretty consistent. There wasn't at least in the The
• 52:16
  sessions that were available to the writers in the media.
• 52:22
  Anything significantly that jumped off.
• 52:25
  That said Wells was ahead of brown, just on what was seem.
• 52:30
  Obviously, there are other things that are factoring in
• 52:33
  there, that either weren't seen during their sessions or things
• 52:35
  like that. But, you know, I think the
• 52:38
  non-committal thing is good for something like this because It's
• 52:43
  going to push, Grant the next 10 to 14 days.
• 52:46
  Yeah, to have his best practice every day. 100%, 100% on that.
• 52:53
  And I think over the next few weeks for us as fans, you know,
• 52:58
  listen to what Brent process in those interviews, you know, come
• 53:02
  home every night, give give so much credit to the media staff
• 53:06
  that one that they interviewed at 4:00 was up by six.
• 53:10
  Yep. And so it was Tomorrow Connor,
• 53:13
  one, and David Cunningham was posting videos in real time.
• 53:17
  Andy was supposed to grab videos in real time they were.
• 53:20
  And then, and then, so listen to what the players say.
• 53:22
  This one of the coaches, say what process.
• 53:24
  But then with David Cunningham and a better lighting is Oleg
• 53:28
  Barber. All these writers try to read
• 53:31
  them, they're getting info, they're seeing things on the
• 53:34
  ground. We've had David on this show.
• 53:37
  David's an awesome guy also got Ava back on Tuesday, we are
• 53:41
  having it. Tuesday where we're going to.
• 53:44
  We're going about alone not by himself that there was this
• 53:49
  whole screen will be covered next Tuesday.
• 53:52
  I'm gonna see how that looks like somebody impressive to see
• 53:55
  but see what they're saying see what they're observing.
• 53:58
  That's how we're going to be seeing is brown catching Wells?
• 54:01
  Israel's, going ahead. All right.
• 54:03
  So wide receiver, statuses I mean fontelle Minds is becoming
• 54:11
  a star. Yeah I mean recruiting Trail
• 54:14
  tearing up Richmond Brent Pride, giving him the massive shoutouts
• 54:19
  about how his unit has developed over the summer man.
• 54:22
  That is awesome to hear. Yeah, I mean it seems like he's
• 54:26
  developing his players and obviously he's already out there
• 54:29
  on the recruiting Trail pulling in the most Talent of any
• 54:34
  position group coach this, this offseason.
• 54:36
  So I mean that's That's big for him.
• 54:39
  Yeah. And you know prosthetic that you
• 54:42
  know there's some talent that was untapped in this unit that
• 54:44
  that's our new show and he said it was a unit that has to have a
• 54:49
  great camp and I agreed because we're going to be them to step
• 54:52
  up and not only take over the production of our two leading
• 54:57
  receivers from last year. Yeah, but also be a more
• 55:02
  consistent Cog in the offense and not just be relying on that
• 55:05
  big play like Brett was talking about.
• 55:08
  Out in the passing game? Yep, that's the big piece that
• 55:11
  you talked about, there is having a great Camp because I
• 55:14
  think we see it, I think we feel comfortable, Jaden blue, the
• 55:19
  Wayne Lofton Caleb Smith, they can play at a D1 level.
• 55:24
  They have to take their games up, but it's everything behind
• 55:28
  them because if you tell me, they take a good step in Fall,
• 55:32
  okay? That's good.
• 55:34
  Who are the other three guys, took that step because if they
• 55:37
  take a step up from where they are, if they're three gas can
• 55:40
  get to the level of those three guys, then you're kind of
• 55:43
  sitting here saying, okay, we have some flexibility and I
• 55:46
  know, it'll make you happy to know, alright, what sort of
• 55:51
  formations, which were going to talk about in just a few
• 55:53
  minutes, but this group must have a great can.
• 55:56
  If they have a great Camp. It's good thing for us now.
• 56:00
  All right, Brian. This is yours, buddy.
• 56:04
  Offensive line. Combos /.
• 56:07
  Andy bitter. Let's start with first team.
• 56:11
  I don't think there is any shock there.
• 56:13
  Silas, Deane, Z going left to right, left tackle, Jesse,
• 56:16
  Hanson, left guard. Johnny, Jordan Center, Caden
• 56:19
  more and park. Laments.
• 56:22
  No shock, right? Not shocked at all.
• 56:24
  That's the line that we've anticipated really since kind of
• 56:27
  Jump Street when we started talking about this season,
• 56:30
  right? So the guys who we thought were
• 56:32
  going to be there or there, Yeah, we'll see if there's any
• 56:36
  movement on that but I don't the only thing I the only position I
• 56:40
  think there could be movement is at left guard and jewels, we'll
• 56:45
  see. We'll see what that what shakes
• 56:47
  out there but I think all the other spots are firm locks and I
• 56:50
  think Jesse's probably got that pretty safe as well.
• 56:54
  But not, I would say it's 100%. He's similar to the brown Wells
• 56:58
  thing. He's got to keep his foot down
• 57:00
  or somebody could take it. Speaking of the somebody, it
• 57:04
  could be one of the gentlemen, from the second team.
• 57:06
  And let's start Bob shake at left tackle.
• 57:09
  Braylon more. Holy God.
• 57:11
  The guy just got flipped in the spring, too offensive line.
• 57:14
  He's already with the second team Jack hollifield Grand.
• 57:18
  That's your sixth, right? That that's who I think the six
• 57:22
  was coming into the spring when Brent /.
• 57:26
  I was talking about, he's got six.
• 57:27
  He feels good about. All right.
• 57:29
  The think I think Jack hollifield was the six.
• 57:31
  He's put on some good weight. Wait, he played pretty well
• 57:34
  during the spring game so I did what I think he was talking
• 57:38
  about then Daniel Miller Tech the German at Right Guard in.
• 57:47
  There was a reason. Notre Dame was trying to get.
• 57:50
  Johnny Garrett to come of e. He's been on campus.
• 57:54
  He's already on the too deep it right tackle.
• 57:58
  So I mean that that itself is kind of a shock And I mean, I
• 58:03
  think the braylon's if you told me brilliant was on 13 I
• 58:05
  wouldn't be shot. Like, okay, that makes sense,
• 58:08
  but the way that kids already come in and jumped up, there was
• 58:12
  a reason, Joe Rudolph kept fighting got him in that
• 58:16
  offensive line room. Yeah, yeah, that movie was made
• 58:19
  right at the end of spring. It seems to have taken pretty
• 58:22
  well, that's Braylon more fighting for that left guard.
• 58:26
  Position is really the only thing I think is going to be
• 58:30
  Questionable because if he's as good as advertised in can, can
• 58:37
  pick up the offense and also you know, he's where he needs to be
• 58:41
  physically. Then I think that there's
• 58:43
  potential there, I think Bob shik is holding a spot right now
• 58:48
  because he has experience playing tackle.
• 58:53
  I think he's kind of the just the guy that's there is the
• 58:58
  emergency tackle to Art the season.
• 59:01
  I think Jonny Garrett's your example of a guy that they're
• 59:05
  trying to get him some reps right now because he's kind of
• 59:09
  switching positions, right? So he's easing into that that
• 59:12
  Tackle Spot. And I think that's going to be
• 59:17
  good for him. He's got these put some good
• 59:19
  weight on it seems. So I think he'll get his body
• 59:22
  ready for for the season and I think getting some extra reps is
• 59:27
  going to help that. Yeah.
• 59:28
  Now on the third teen big Xavier chaplain from down South
• 59:33
  Carolina and Brody, Meadows, it guard kind of two names, most
• 59:36
  known the other three guys are Walk-Ons.
• 59:40
  You know, there were talking about Johnny Dixon, who
• 59:42
  literally just enrolled On the go already snapping its Center.
• 59:49
  I think, you know, you look this year, it's still a worry spot
• 59:52
  but when we know there are only two guys in the front to leaving
• 59:58
  And then you start looking at braylin and Jack and Johnny and
• 1:00:02
  Xavier and Brody. And knowing Joe Rudolph is
• 1:00:06
  recruiting an offensive line and teaching offensive line.
• 1:00:10
  Yep. You feel like in the short term
• 1:00:13
  we're probably going to be better up front just because of
• 1:00:16
  Joe Rudolph. But in the long term knowing
• 1:00:20
  some of these players knowing their sizes, you looking at
• 1:00:22
  their tape it's like Is it two or three?
• 1:00:26
  Is it a next year or two years from now?
• 1:00:29
  Where there's not a defensive line in the country that wants
• 1:00:33
  to go against? You know, like an exam of your
• 1:00:36
  Braylon Jack Caden and Parker, like, I don't really want to
• 1:00:42
  play them cuz I'm no, it's gonna be nasty.
• 1:00:47
  I mean that's the Hope, right? And I think when I'm looking at
• 1:00:49
  the third team, in the sea Xavier, chaplain sitting there
• 1:00:53
  at left tackle that Future, our left tackle position, ladies and
• 1:00:57
  gentlemen. That's that's the guy.
• 1:00:59
  That's probably going to be starting for the next not
• 1:01:01
  counting, 23 3 to 4 years. So get ready for it.
• 1:01:08
  I see it happening sooner rather than later.
• 1:01:10
  I think if you look at the second team if not by the end of
• 1:01:13
  the camp by end of you know September early October you're
• 1:01:19
  going to see chaplain in the 2D at that at that tackle position.
• 1:01:24
  I think Bob shik is there until chaplain is ready.
• 1:01:28
  I kind of alluded to that a little bit earlier that that's
• 1:01:30
  kind of what I meant. I think the chapel is going to
• 1:01:32
  be the guy at the left tackle position.
• 1:01:35
  Ian, and I'm hoping that. He's up for the challenge
• 1:01:39
  because we need him because we are thin at that tackle
• 1:01:44
  position. Absolutely.
• 1:01:46
  All right Ron. You saw you mentioned on me.
• 1:01:50
  You mentioned on here and you saw Dave and Cunningham's clip
• 1:01:54
  what was that combo drill they were doing that you saw and I
• 1:01:57
  think it was Johnny Jordan I thought I saw his Johnny's
• 1:02:00
  number, I might be wrong but what is that something indict me
• 1:02:04
  we have seen that last year or is this More where it's kind of,
• 1:02:08
  we're moving to where we're going to do some power stuff,
• 1:02:12
  you would have seen it last year but it's a little bit different
• 1:02:15
  so you might see something like that on inside Zone.
• 1:02:19
  But this is more of a true combo and not just a Zone block where
• 1:02:25
  you're, you know, you're passing the guy off up to the next
• 1:02:29
  level. This is truly an actual combo at
• 1:02:32
  the point of attack. And so that's the drill they
• 1:02:35
  were working on and I really like Seeing some different
• 1:02:38
  concepts, a little little newer, newer concepts for for the
• 1:02:42
  Hokies really old Concepts. If we really think about it,
• 1:02:46
  creeping back into into our repertoire here, Nike check that
• 1:02:52
  out. David Cunningham had that as a
• 1:02:55
  Twitter video yesterday pretty cool to see.
• 1:02:58
  Okay I alluded to it earlier. Brian has been telling me what
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  he hopes to see is formation alignment.
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  Frequency. Brian.
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  What the hell does that mean? So I mean, y'all know I'm an
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  offensive nerd here. I like to really dive into what
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  an offense likes to do and looking back at what we did when
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  we had Robbie on kind of looking at what we expect from you know
• 1:03:28
  play-calling perspective, you just a play repertoire all
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  together. What type of formations were
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  looking at what I want to see from some of these practices as
• 1:03:38
  we get Peaks here and there is the frequency, the formations
• 1:03:42
  that bow and is using and how he is deploying the Personnel
• 1:03:46
  within those formations because that's going to tell me.
• 1:03:49
  Number one, Are we looking like more?
• 1:03:53
  What Joe Moorhead did are we looking at what more, like, what
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  Ricky Ronnie does, which is very similar or we looking at a
• 1:04:01
  little bit of hybrid of some of that stuff.
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  But also, some NFL Concepts that he may have picked up during his
• 1:04:09
  time in Jacksonville. But I also want to see the, the,
• 1:04:13
  the frequency because I want to see where these players are
• 1:04:17
  lining up. Whether it's, you know, blue in
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  the slot, whether it's Lon In the slot is blue outside at all
• 1:04:25
  is is Lofton outside at all. Are these guys getting kind of
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  moved throughout the receiver line there?
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  Or are they kind of locked in our?
• 1:04:36
  These guys are outside. These guys are slotted in.
• 1:04:39
  There's not much position flexibility there.
• 1:04:43
  You know how often are we lining up in trips?
• 1:04:45
  How often are we lining up in Pro?
• 1:04:49
  How often a relining up? And In for why'd, you know, I
• 1:04:53
  want to I want to see these things and kind of get an idea
• 1:04:55
  of what this offense is going to look like, and how that ticks,
• 1:04:59
  we obviously know that there's going to be heavy tight in
• 1:05:02
  usage. And that's not just because
• 1:05:03
  Tyler Bowen is the the tight end Coach in the play caller, but
• 1:05:10
  that's kind of indicative with the Joe Moorhead style, right?
• 1:05:12
  That the Titan gets a lot of involvement.
• 1:05:14
  There's going to be that, you know, flat two-wheel concept
• 1:05:19
  that we have forget who it was. Wrote an article.
• 1:05:21
  Oh about that. That was talking, was it Brendan
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  overnight? Even might have been, might have
• 1:05:27
  been French mime in French. Okay, the key player.
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  Yeah. All right, awesome.
• 1:05:32
  All right, so I want to see things like that.
• 1:05:35
  Obviously French is. If you guys haven't checked that
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  out of their check that out, it's a really good write-up of
• 1:05:40
  kind of what to expect for this offense.
• 1:05:42
  Neither the, he always does a good job breaking down tape.
• 1:05:44
  Yes, he does. Yes, he does.
• 1:05:46
  You mentioned the NFL he was under Darrell Bevell while with
• 1:05:52
  While with Jacksonville. So you kind of go back and
• 1:05:55
  think, where's beveled most successful years.
• 1:05:57
  It was over in Seattle with Marshawn with Russell.
• 1:06:00
  So if you see some power elements and Boots, some things
• 1:06:05
  like that, go back and look at some of those Seahawks games.
• 1:06:08
  Look at those Concepts, all right?
• 1:06:10
  Yeah, they tall athletic tight in as well.
• 1:06:14
  Yes, they did. All right.
• 1:06:18
  That was used a lot in the Red Zone.
• 1:06:20
  Yes, he was. All right, so bronze.
• 1:06:22
  Something we had talked about a couple times was out.
• 1:06:25
  Okay, who's going to be the same?
• 1:06:28
  Is it going to be a rotation? I don't think it's going to be a
• 1:06:31
  rotation anymore. Not if things are holding, like
• 1:06:35
  he was talking about at the, at the after practice.
• 1:06:38
  Presser pry, loves Chianti. Jenkins loves him.
• 1:06:42
  He loves what he's doing on the field.
• 1:06:46
  He likes that the defensive back qualities that he's bringing to
• 1:06:50
  that position. He likes that he's picking up
• 1:06:54
  things very quickly and he likes the Improvement.
• 1:06:57
  He's made as far as playing more in the Box.
• 1:07:00
  Yeah those linebacker traits is what he said.
• 1:07:02
  He's got he's learning those traits.
• 1:07:04
  Yeah and you know when you say that that immediately triggered
• 1:07:09
  Brian and me thinking, okay, that's cool.
• 1:07:12
  Gionta had a good season. Last year has always been A good
• 1:07:16
  player. Probably.
• 1:07:18
  Now, in a role where, you know, can he Excel the most?
• 1:07:23
  Very good potential. But we were discussing earlier
• 1:07:27
  today. Who's the backup?
• 1:07:31
  And I told this is my theory and I let Brian, you know, Compound
• 1:07:35
  on it. After I back up I think Jr.
• 1:07:37
  Walker is the backup. I think Jr.
• 1:07:39
  Has more defensive back skills which to me a little bit easier
• 1:07:44
  because if you ask to safety to go, Rush the quarterback thing,
• 1:07:48
  go do it. But what I think though, is,
• 1:07:51
  even though he's going to be the backup, I think we're going to
• 1:07:55
  see more kalai Lawson than we see Jr.
• 1:07:59
  Walker. We're in for one reason.
• 1:08:01
  I think there's going to be times.
• 1:08:03
  We know the aggressiveness of friends, private talked about
• 1:08:05
  it, we know about it, we've seen it, there's going to be times.
• 1:08:09
  He just puts kalai on the field and says, yes, he's coming.
• 1:08:12
  Now then we were talking about Brian.
• 1:08:15
  You asked, you Brian? If that happens.
• 1:08:18
  What are they going to do offensively?
• 1:08:20
  If you put kalai. Lawson on that side of the
• 1:08:23
  field. you're going to want to dial up, something where you get
• 1:08:27
  the ball out, quick, because you want to and you want to maybe
• 1:08:32
  get him split out in space, where if he does have any
• 1:08:37
  coverage responsibility, you're making him have to honor that
• 1:08:43
  Because I think while he does have some Elite athleticism and
• 1:08:50
  a very good straight line speed and obviously the wingspan is
• 1:08:53
  next level. I think you want to get him in
• 1:08:57
  space as much as possible in the coverage aspect.
• 1:09:00
  So if you're going to have something where you know he's
• 1:09:03
  not just pinning his ears back. You want to try to take
• 1:09:06
  advantage that way but you think prize going to fit him put him
• 1:09:10
  on the field to do that or do you think he's on the field?
• 1:09:13
  Those ears are pin back and you're going to have to make
• 1:09:16
  checks, right? You got the moves.
• 1:09:19
  Yeah, I think he, but I think loss of might end up winning
• 1:09:22
  that backup job out, right? We'll see.
• 1:09:24
  Okay. I think he's got that type of
• 1:09:26
  ability, but if there is a weakness at this point is, it's
• 1:09:30
  the fact that he's not quite as Adept in the coverage aspects of
• 1:09:35
  that position. Probably as the other two guys
• 1:09:38
  that we talked about absolutely, all right, we'll look Backer.
• 1:09:43
  Again, this raised our eyes even more and kind of the way it
• 1:09:48
  seemed as its Alan Tisdale's job right now.
• 1:09:51
  But man is Jaden Keller bearing down because man he talked about
• 1:09:56
  he plays fast. Yeah yeah and it wasn't just
• 1:10:00
  him. Connor was interviewing as well
• 1:10:03
  and he was talking about how fast he is like he shot out of a
• 1:10:06
  cannon and you like that that position is going to need to
• 1:10:10
  have good instincts. For what they're what type of
• 1:10:14
  run support, they're going to be bringing and things like that.
• 1:10:16
  So that's going to be really important.
• 1:10:19
  So having a guy like that, that's that's quick that, you
• 1:10:23
  know, can get around, tackles can get underneath blocks,
• 1:10:26
  things like that. So that that's going to be
• 1:10:28
  important for that outside linebacker position, that will
• 1:10:30
  backers. So, we'll see if Keller can push
• 1:10:33
  for the starting role. Obviously, the story with
• 1:10:36
  Tisdale has that ability, is there in consistency is the
• 1:10:39
  issue, you know, Pride talked about, you know, Actually that
• 1:10:43
  being leaked to some, you know, fatigue breaking down, you know,
• 1:10:49
  the mental focus and things like that.
• 1:10:51
  We'll see if a camp under pry rectifies any of that.
• 1:10:58
  You know, I talked about earlier Camp, should be the hardest part
• 1:11:01
  of the season. And and hopefully hopefully some
• 1:11:05
  of that stuff carries over into the season so we'll see.
• 1:11:09
  But yeah, I like I like what Keller's doing and we'll see if
• 1:11:13
  he can push push his tail and obviously if he does that's
• 1:11:17
  that's better for us because that means we're improved from
• 1:11:20
  last year, if nothing else, right?
• 1:11:22
  Absolutely. In the to details, you're
• 1:11:25
  talking about there, there's opportunities there potentially,
• 1:11:29
  to put them both on the field at the same time, mix and match.
• 1:11:33
  Match with, you know, with Dax with Keyshawn.
• 1:11:37
  Maybe even occasionally. Hey we're going to slip one of
• 1:11:39
  them over to Sam. Just to the depth is going to
• 1:11:44
  help. Anytime you have multiple
• 1:11:47
  players at any position that can play will help you in the long
• 1:11:52
  run. Now we'll flip one more piece
• 1:11:55
  here before we close everything out tonight.
• 1:11:57
  They interview tomorrow Connor short interview You know, Jamari
• 1:12:03
  himself well but before he got up there, Brent Pride praised
• 1:12:06
  him about he saying, he probably is the best all-around player on
• 1:12:11
  the team. From a leadership, from a play
• 1:12:13
  perspective, kind of checks all the boxes and you love to hear
• 1:12:17
  that from a guy that he asked to move from the whip from the Sam,
• 1:12:22
  to go back to free safety. And when you get that sort of,
• 1:12:25
  praise it tells you a lot about, you know, Shamari as a person.
• 1:12:31
  But then also tomorrow is a football player that he's
• 1:12:33
  adapted that well to get that sort of Praise from rent fry.
• 1:12:37
  Yeah, it talks about his leadership and team first
• 1:12:39
  mentality as well, right? So, I think that's big and, you
• 1:12:43
  know, I think, you know, Connor physical traits are great, you
• 1:12:49
  know, we've talked about in the past some of his inconsistencies
• 1:12:52
  in coverage and sometimes it's inconsistency in Making the the
• 1:12:57
  sure tackle, right? Yeah, but when he's coming
• 1:13:01
  downhill, when he's sure of it. He's going to lay the lumber
• 1:13:05
  man. Yes, he will.
• 1:13:06
  He's a big hitter. He's got good athleticism.
• 1:13:10
  So and I think he's going to be a good leader in the in that
• 1:13:14
  back half of the defense. And I think that's another
• 1:13:18
  reason that that changes made, right?
• 1:13:20
  Because now you've got garbage kind of the de facto leader of
• 1:13:25
  that defensive line you got, you got decks their de facto leader
• 1:13:32
  of the linebacker Corps. Now you've got Connor in the
• 1:13:35
  secondary as that kind of Elder Statesman in the room.
• 1:13:40
  So you got you got good leadership across each level the
• 1:13:43
  defense and I think that's important to all right?
• 1:13:46
  Right. Well Braun is anything broken in
• 1:13:49
  the last hour here since we've Been talking to Brett from six,
• 1:13:55
  pick six previews. Now I think we're good to go man
• 1:13:59
  again, shout out to Brett ciancia pick six previews for
• 1:14:04
  joining us tonight. Great information is always, and
• 1:14:09
  we really appreciate the expertise and the Deep level
• 1:14:14
  data analytics. Being a data guy here that that
• 1:14:18
  he brings to the table to the sport.
• 1:14:20
  So again, go Out, grabbed his magazine.
• 1:14:24
  We got the digital copy, he's got the hard copy this year, so
• 1:14:27
  if you prefer that the, the feel and touch of paper, turning the
• 1:14:32
  pages, grab that too, man, get it.
• 1:14:35
  Like, seriously, this is the second year.
• 1:14:37
  We gotta, we had him on last year.
• 1:14:38
  We picked it up so much info, so much detail.
• 1:14:42
  Sort of drawing you out there. And you know, when you see the
• 1:14:46
  data, you kind of say okay if we improve here and here we can be
• 1:14:49
  a much better football team and you start looking at the
• 1:14:52
  opponents. It really gets you down a rabbit
• 1:14:54
  hole. Yeah.
• 1:14:56
  All right, brother. And the visuals that had that he
• 1:14:58
  has the data area is really what separates his side from the the
• 1:15:05
  predictions themselves is really what separates his Magazine from
• 1:15:09
  from the others out there. Absolutely.
• 1:15:12
  All right. Well Brian let's promo one more
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  Yep. But the different experiences
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  Yeah. Since since, the early spring, I
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  I want to get everybody or as many as we can, at least one
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  from the season. We obviously got a new coach,
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  there's just so much to kind of roll over in.
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  And things that we can really bounce off each other.
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  I want to I want to push back on each other a little bit.
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  I know that you know, not everybody is of the same mind.
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  I appreciate that. I really like when we can get
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  And usually in, in the boundary Corner podcast, is usually me,
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