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Paranormal & The Vatican Pt.II | Wayne Steiger · Ryder Lee

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visionary on a call inness with Terek Studies. Wayne Steiger. It's good
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to see you, my friend. Thank you Ryder. Good to see you
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again. You know. Yeah, we just did part one yesterday of this
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conversation over on your channel, and in case people are wondering where part one
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is, I posted it in the community tab page of the channel, so
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check that out. We had a fantastic discussion over there, just like we're
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going to have over here right now. So picking up from yesterday, I
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kind of just want to get your thoughts Wayne on the overall feeling that you
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got from this document because I sent it to you. It was released last
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week. What was your first impressions of this Vatican document on apparitions, because
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we haven't really heard anything from the Vatican on really any of this stuff.
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They normally tend to stay away from paranormal and supernatural things, which is really
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interesting because it seems like the entire Bible is nothing full of paranormal and supernatural
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things, so it's kind of weird. Yeah, it kind of goes hand
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in hand with God, doesn't it, or at least the concept of God.
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Just saying, listen, when I read the document you sent me,
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what struck me at the end of it was several things. The first,
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this is a admission to a topic that, as you said, has been
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pretty taboo. You just don't deal with this stuff. But this is when
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you have the Vatican Council and the Pope having to address this issue, and
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not only address it, but they get very specific as to how to handle
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it. The whole bottom line to this, was writer, is that this
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isn't admission that a the paranormal does exist. The supernatural has always been to
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assume to exist. But more importantly, it was like they're trying to control
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the narrative. You know, it's like, Okay, yeah, we know
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this stuff exists, but it's only going to be sanctioned if we say that
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it exists i e. Supernatural, i e. Paranormal, whatever you want
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to define it. And to a layman, for me, you walk away
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and going, well, at least they confirmed that what we had always known
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to begin with. But two now it's only going to be considered legit if
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we say it's legit. This is this is like a crime syndicate, you
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know, it's like yeah, yeah, this is how it's going to work.
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But yeah, and I think we're in the beginning of the potential ramifications
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of what this is going to have for the establishment the church to how does
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the constituent now begin to deal with this? Yeah, it's really interesting.
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It's almost like the UFO phenomenon and the extraterrestrial phenomenon. You know, people
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were waiting for the government to come out and say the stuff really exists.
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It's almost the exact same type of motif that they're doing. And the Vatican
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is more aimed, which I do think that the UFO phenomenon has something to
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do with this, and it's interconnected as well. But it's what if it
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would have been reversed. What if the government would have like the Pentagona was
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like, yeah, we'll release this paranormal document, and then the Vatican released
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the said the UFOs were real. I wonder how that would go over.
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You know. The bottom line on all that, it's it's about control.
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And I think if there's if there's a way to make a buck off this,
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because that's what they warned against, the Charlatan's, the hoaxes and you
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know, the con men that would try to make money off of an event,
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a paranormal event. No, it's best that it's handled by the church
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because the church has got the control of they're going to make money off of
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themselves. And so it's it's interesting because it opens a whole door. Now,
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all right, let's just say the paranormal. Now what does that mean?
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You know, define paranormal in you know it is the paranormal still the
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same here, let's say in the United States to what would be perceived to
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be a ghost, let's say in the Middle East a gin. And if
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these things are true, then what are we dealing with here? I mean,
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are we dealing with dead things? Are we dealing with species that we
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have no firm definition other than the broad definition of either demons or angels or
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you know, God or Satan. And if that's the case, then are
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they all human? Because this is happening. That's what the paranormal is is
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evidence of this realm, which we could call the ethereal realm, the spiritual
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realm. So if this exists now, and if it exists outside the preview
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of the Vatican of Religion, well you have the opportunity that this could get
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out of hand real quick and take on a whole life of its own,
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which guess what it has. Who's going to release the Bigfoot in the Cryptid
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files? Who's responsible for releasing the cryptid files. But it's like what I've
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said several times on the show, It's like, if you take a bunch
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of bigfoot researchers and encrypted researchers to a location, then they're gonna come out
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of that location and say that it's bigfoot. If you take paranormal researchers so
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that exact same location that investigate ghosts and supernatural occurrences, they're going to come
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out of there saying that it's ghosts and paranormal things. Take a UFO investigator
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out to the exact same location that you just took the paranormal and the encrypted
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investigator, they're gonna come out and say that it's UFOs that where they are,
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you know. So it's like the perceptions that we have on these types
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of events. Everyone's kind of just like in their own camp, you know,
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like this is what it is, that's what it is. No,
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you're right, No, you're wrong, and it just becomes this thing that
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really nobody can actually agree on. Well that there is interesting evidence. So
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I'm a fan of the paranormal caught on camera, and there is compelling evidence
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of you know, of other species, you know, whether you want to
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call them cryptives or if they've always been here but just have eluded us.
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There is a phenomenon that would appear that whether it's a Poulter geys, whether
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it is you know, something else, there seems to be now because we
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have cameras everywhere. I mean, we're a society that everything is recorded.
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I think in London is the most recorded city in the world, you know.
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So the point being is that we now have the eyes in the sky,
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we have cameras. Everyone carries one with them wherever they go. So
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I think you have basically this this evidence that would suggest that maybe we've been
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deceived in our basic perceptions of what we call reality, that we're the only
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ones here. Life is pretty mundane. It follows a set of rules,
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and there's little to no deviation outside those rules. And what we're finding out
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is that the rules are fluid. The environment is a different landscape than what
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we have been told the landscape is supposed to look like. And when we
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have these intrusions on that, then we begin to speculate, well, is
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this something that is something that we've done, or is it in fact something
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outside of our control and outside of our perceptional range of thinking. Yeah,
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it seems like the church always kind of monopolizes the the paranormal. I mean,
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it seems like that people really want to find religion to actually find something
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paranormal or find something supernatural, because they're kind of like, well, what
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is this life? This life is kind of mundane. I need to join
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something that is going to give me excitement, you know, I want the
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Holy Spirit to come through. You know. It's just like whenever you're at
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a concert, or you're at it in an event and there's a lot of
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people around and the energies is flowing through. It's the exact same type of
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thing when you're in a church and everyone's up in worship ville church. They
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want to see the supernatural, that that's God, God is. And that's
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why I was a part. You know, I was a preacher, and
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we believed in the twelve gifts of the Holy Spirit. By the evidence of
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speaking in tongues. We believe that there was interpretation of tongues, the laying
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on of hands you could have, the gifts of seeing into the spirit realm,
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the gift of wisdom where you could begin to prophesy. So these were
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all tangible, real hands on evidence that people would see. I saw prayer
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lines where I did it myself. You don't even have to lay hands on
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that person. You just put it and immediately they're slain in the spirit,
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that's what we called it. And would they fall back and then like start
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season or whatever. Yeah, well some was a very you know, lame
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type of thing, but others there was something else going on down there.
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But yeah, I mean I've seen those videos of those televangelists that would take
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their suit jacket off and just swipe it across the audience and then it looks
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like they all just fall down in one big wave. We saw war the
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supernatural in my time. And you know, because I was you know the
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name and claimant, you know, Kenneth, Copeland and Hagen. We believed
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in these things and it goes to prove a point. We came together expecting
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and we found exactly what we were expecting. Right, Yeah, your your
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thoughts and ideas and belief manifest and in your unity exactly. It was powerful.
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I've seen people that were sick and get healed. I mean, it's
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it's it was very strange. Now, then the question becomes is how does
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the Vatican make money off of this? Are they are they going to start
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now monopolizing like events like let's say the the next time people see the Mother
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Mary or a group of people like the that event that we were talking about
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yesterday that they mentioned in the document, the Mary, Marianna Marryiness apparition or
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whatever. Yeah, and are they going to like, what are they going
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to do with the next event? Because if this is a miracle, I'm
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telling you, we had the thing when I was in Christianity revival, and
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if you had an authentic revival, things were going to happen in the spirit
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realm. You know, you were going to have deliverance, you were going
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to have visions, you were going to have signs and wonders. And how
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you make money off of that is that it's by you having your sweet little
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butt right in that chair, that pew, because at some point in time
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there's going to be a collection because you cannot come and see God for free.
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It's going to cost you something. And I can tell you I know,
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I was an usher when we had special events or we had evangelists come
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through where miracles were recorded. We would pack the place out and you pass
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that offering plate not once, not twice, but sometimes three times. A
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church of five hundred you could walk out with a hall. I know because
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I counted it sometimes forty two thousand dollars one night. So you know,
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the whole miracle business is big business. And it's part of what that Vatican
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document was saying is that, hey, we want to control the narrative here
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because if we can say that this is truly the paranormal or supernatural or a
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miracle, people are going to come to that parish. They're going to come
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to that community church, wherever it may be, because they want to touch
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God. They want to touch a living God. That is the paranormal,
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it's the supernatural, it's the miraculous, all balled up in one. Now,
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that's an experience you'll pay for. It's interesting to you how it talks
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about in the document that they kind of make it seem like that some people
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experience certain phenomenon, but it's not religious in nature, and they kind of
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make it seem like, well, if it's not religious, then it's kind
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of not real and you would have to come to the Vatican. You would
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have to come to the church to get it verified that it was real,
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which they're also trying to monopolize people's experiences in telling people what to believe.
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Like if you see something or you hear something that's not good enough, you
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have to come to the church explain it to you. You're to get it
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authenticated, which no one can tell anybody what to believe or what to do,
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right, you know, that's the authenticated version the authorize And to your
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point, they want to authorize it that well, this is real, and
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I guess if it's real. I guess you would have to have some connection
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to God, right, you would think unless there's another God here, which
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I suspect that there is. But that's just really my humble opinion. What
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almost sounds like that without them coming out and seeing it, with them saying
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that people kind of experience things, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's religious.
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Without them saying it kind of gives the impression that they mean it's of
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like the devil, or of Satan, or of something demonic. That's kind
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of the impression I got. Now they didn't see that in the document,
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but by saying that people experience some things, but it doesn't mean that it's
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religious, kind of implies that it's demonic or evil. Did you kind of
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get that impression? Oh? Yes, yes, definitely on that I mean,
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and then that opened opens up a whole can of worms there, because
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then now we get into this what are these beings? Then? I mean
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that we call them evil? But are they? I mean, what's a
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demon? There's a demon? Anti angel? And if this stuff exists,
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which they're saying it does, then who's in control of that? I mean,
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if it isn't God, then what's going on over here. At the
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same time, it's almost kind of seems like too, that they're kind of
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warning of something that might be coming in the future and kind of already getting
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yeah, people on board that it's not real. Excellent, excellent observation there,
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writer, because well, else why would you acknowledge it? I mean
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I often said this, if the media was to stop paying attention to Trump,
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it had been a non story. So the fact that you're bringing this
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out Vatican, are you expecting a war, a spiritual war? Are you
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Are you trying to tell us that these other things that may exist, whether
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they be demons or other that they seem to be outside of your belief systems?
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Do you know something that we don't know? I mean, many philosophers
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say that as above so below that if we're about to have a war here,
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that means there's already been a war happening in the spirit realm. Maybe
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we've done this whole thing wrong. Maybe they're actually for once for the people.
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Maybe they were trying to warn everybody that something is going to happen and
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to use common sense and critical thinking that it's that it's not real and unless
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it's a loaded thing like I'm kind of in all directions on it. And
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when I read the article before the document released, before I actually read the
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document, I was like, it kind of seems like a like a warning.
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I don't know. You know, I've done a number of videos you
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almost ten years on the channel, did a number of vidical videos on the
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Vatican and the Vatican it's got really dark history, a dark past. And
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then if there is such a thing as the devil or these things called demons,
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what have you, they seem to have uh, pretty much free in
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the Vatican itself. Literally, I mean there's countless articles I've written, I'm
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not written, I've read saying that you know, Satan walks the halls of
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the Vatican, You've had incidences with you know, the child sex abuse that
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was so prominent in the Church, and all how all of these things are
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tied to a sectanic order that is right before people, but the people don't
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see it because they've been trained not to understand what is actually being shown to
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them. Now, that's another aspect of the Vatican. And when I take
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that and I read these these decrees that's coming out of these councils, I'm
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saying to myself. Well, well, okay, are they afraid that the
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gig is up as something changed in a literal sense that's going to impact our
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physical history? Here it gets very interesting because sometimes what we think is the
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good guy and you just said it a minute ago, may not be the
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good guy at all. That's very true, and I think that. I
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mean, if you just look at the Book of Job, right, just
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read through the Book of Job, it really seems like that whatever the adversary
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is to God works for God. They would like work together. He says
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in the Book of Isaiah, I created evil for my own pleasure. Excuse
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me, And so you're going to kick my ass because of the evil.
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But wait a minute, you just said you created it. I'm confused here.
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And you know Mark on second century he wrote that in the dualism of
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Christianity, and his contention was that there's really two gods here. There's this
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God of the Old Testament that is the law giver. Then you have this
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New Testament God, which is a god of pure love, has no wrath,
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has no vengeance, has no need to remember anything of sin. And
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it was Turtillian who wrote back and said, no, no, no,
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we can't have that, we have to have this God that is of the
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Old Testament, and that love is just an attribute to his as as much
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as his hate. Yeah, that's what it kind of it seems like.
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And if you go back to if you've ever seen Wrath of the Titans or
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yeah, great movie, I like it, like it's Yeah, the the
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Satanic character in that is basically the right hand of God. It brings destruction
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to bring people closer to God. Well, I've often said that if Hell
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exists, it's an inside job. If Satan is this creature of pride,
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which we're told and supposedly that's what he how he fell because I still don't
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understand how imperfection comes from a perfection. But I digress so very quickly.
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So if Hell exists, why would Satan want God's rejects? He's a prideful
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creature. He wouldn't take the second best, or even the discharge of something
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that he is supposedly the antithesis of. I mean, if Hell would be
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anything, it would be a party central. I mean this logic. You
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know that we have a Dante which the church adapted. Why because it was
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the perfect fear mechanism. Look at all of our philosophy today, writer,
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is you know, whether it's you know, theology, ideology of a political
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or religious nature, or just our philosophy. It's all predicated upon these basic
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concepts that there is this dualism. There's this God who is supposedly the peer
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god, and then there is this Nemesis that is the anti god. It's
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crazy, and listen, I have studied Satan, who this is no exaggeration,
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hundreds of hours in the concept of Satan Lucifer, and I have studied
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the Bible, and I have put money out there on the table and asked
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anyone to show me in the Bible where Satan or Lucifer ever killed one human.
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Show me in the Bible where Satan or Lucifer ever demanded the worship of
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any human. Now I can show you in that same Bible where this God
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that the world worships is the one who kills names, commits genocide, rapes.
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I can just go on down the line. Now. I don't know
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what your definition of good and evil is, but if your actions show that
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it only harms humanity, then who's really the bad guy here? And this
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all has everything to do with the paranormal because the paranormal is predicated upon evil
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and good, and that you're going to only see the evil because that's what
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happens when you go in the dark and you start looking for things. And
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then if you believe the narrative is that you have souls that are miserable,
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that are lost, and this includes children, then you have these spirits that
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seem to always want to deceive humans. But that is exactly the same freaking
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narrative that what you're telling me the Vatican quote unquote, the one that produces
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the books, right, that that's their story. There's no deviation in the
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storyline. So what's going on? Then you get into the people thinking that,
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you know, these these extraterrestrials are aliens and the UFOs are I mean,
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I mean the extraterrestrials or demons and the UFOs or something demonic, and
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they're deceivers. But the people that also claim to be in contact with extraterrestrials
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also say almost the exact same things. Just started out with some of the
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very first contact, yes, like Samuel Eden Thompson in Washington State in nineteen
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fifty, where he said that he met a group of Venetians outside of a
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UFO ship that said that they were from Venus, and then we get you
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know, some of the other early ones that were saying that they were from
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Mars and that they were within our solar system. Right now, it's just
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stretched out so far away that, yeah, we're everywhere, we're in the
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plates, we're freaking so far outside of our solar system. And that seems
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to be the kind of deceiving nature here, Like once science and stuff picks
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up to that, well, we know there's nobody living on Mars. We
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know that there's not anybody living on Venus. Then they changed their location.
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Now it's farther away because we haven't gotten there yet, we can't see there
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yet, you know. So it's there's a deceiving nature to a lot of
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that, a lot of this stuff. And that's that was kind of my
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point, Hollwood, as you were saying, you know, I'm a product
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of the Boomers. I was born in nineteen fifty five, and I grew
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up on that science fiction and everything that you read. You saw what we'd
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be called B rated sci fi movies. The aliens and the robots were always
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evil because they actually were representing communism. Because that was the mainstream thought in
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our society. Comedies are bad. We were in the Cold War, and
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so when the alien story started with flying saucers, they were always of a
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evil nature. I mean, even the day the Earth did seal. You
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know, it turns out that probably the one good alien ended up being shown
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what true evil is by us. I mean, and the narrative has always
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followed that, even into the modern genre. I mean the movie Paul,
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because I would think that if there's an alien, they know what getting highs
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about, and they kind of have a pretty cool attitude. You know,
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they're not going to be uptight. They're not wanting to probe my ass for
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some unknown medical experience, you know that they just maybe it's like to get
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back and get stoned and just tell me what it's like to really trip out
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there. Why can't that be a reality. Why can't that be a paranormal
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experience? I mean, yeah, come on, extra treasturals, bring us
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those space drugs. Come on the same if they don't spot, they would
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really know what it is space alcohol. Come on, aliens. I mean,
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maybe you know, maybe we could. You know, what I'm saying
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is that if we think about universal peace, then why wouldn't it be in
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that, you know, even a higher intelligence. I don't know. You
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know, again, I'm pretty much that product. But it certainly seems to
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me a nice alternative to what I'm seeing now, and now that the Vatican's
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involved, and now they're gonna tell me, and and I thought it was
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interesting. You know, I hit a dis briefly yesterday on this. You
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know, they have point A, B, C, D, and then
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they got sub sections from E and F in case that you know that there
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is something else and you just grace. I saw that space coming. That's
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what I'm talking about. I mean, And why wouldn't they like our rock
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and roll? I keep thinking about this. I mean, if there's one
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thing that humanity has, we got music. We got some kick ass music,
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and why wouldn't they dig that as well? It's like, why is
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everyone so uptight? If you have this higher intelligence, what You're just going
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to be a proverbial straight asshole for the rest of your existence? I mean,
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no, I think they probably liked the dance as well. I don't
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know. Maybe they might have that elixir that you know, we can find
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our eternal youth. You know, it's it's certainly. I think would make
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for a very interesting movie, probably be a hit at the box office.
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Could you see it now? It's space drugs, Alien aliens and space drugs.
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But there was someone on my show a while back that was talking about
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how they're trying to grow vegetables and they grow fruits and stuff in space,
32:25
unlike the space station or whatever. Yeah, which I didn't really look into
32:30
that, but it would make sense. I wonder if it would probably taste
32:35
different, right, and they are growing and in fact, there was a
32:38
story not here they've actually harvested. It's interesting on the taste. I hadn't
32:44
read anything about that, but yeah, so it would seem to me that
32:49
taste would come through a mixture of the atmosphere of the different chemicals and gases.
32:53
But that's an interesting point. I hadn't thought about that. Wonderful it
33:00
would be healthier or worse for you, I don't know. I mean our
33:04
food today. That gets into a whole other thing, you know, is
33:07
the food that they're feeding us that this is this really part of this agenda
33:10
for depopulation. You know, you have food that is basically empty calories,
33:17
and you know, the explosion of obesity and diabetes, and you have this
33:23
a whole host of other things because the food no longer does what the food
33:29
is supposed to do. And I feel like that's really only in the United
33:34
States to a certain degree, because some places, and like other countries,
33:40
like you can go and eat as much as you want and you don't really
33:45
gain a lot of weight. It's weird. Yeah, yeah, it truly
33:50
is. Well. Also in other countries, their portions are smaller. They
33:53
don't eat as much as what we eat there there they you know, they're
33:59
you know, small or amount than we eat. But I think that their
34:02
food is a lot better. I just saw a video today, which again
34:06
is on the internet. You don't know if it's actually real or not,
34:08
but a lady bought formula like baby formula from a store and took a magnet
34:15
across the top of the baby formula and all of these metal, metal particles
34:22
came out of the baby formula. Well, I don't know if it's really
34:27
I don't know if it's real. There is there is studies that show that
34:30
the average American consumes about as much as a credit card in plastic every week,
34:37
So that's not good for us. Well, and you got to think
34:40
about you know again, you know, as I did a video five six
34:45
years ago, you know, I were talking about it terraforming this planet.
34:49
That the way you're going to do it is to make what is the native
34:54
species to where they can no longer live in the environ that they once lived
35:00
in. And plastic is a byproduct of oil. So in fact, our
35:07
whole pharmaceutical industry has been based on petroleum. And if it's in our blood
35:15
now, then that means that there's a fundamental shift and change in our physiology.
35:22
Now. Is that part of an agenda? I don't know, you
35:27
know, and I often think if these things are in play, if there
35:31
are ghosts, if there are demons, if there are angels and et cetera,
35:37
are they aware of this what's taking place? Are they in another conspiracy
35:42
too? Is there a conspiracy? Because again you sit here in the United
35:47
States, the food that we eat, it's crazy. I mean, what
35:52
was it the guy that ate what Big Max for a whole year? He
35:58
just died here just couple weeks ago, at at a pretty young age.
36:02
I think it was fifty three. Now, eating Big Max for a year
36:07
and eating fries for a year. Did that contribute. I don't know,
36:10
but I know that overall you're right. Yeah, I mean, I mean
36:16
just the fact that there's an organic food section at the grocery store tells you
36:22
everything that you need to know about all the other food. And there's this
36:29
debate I know in California they're pretty strict about this is exactly what is organic?
36:35
What does that mean? And is you know, free to herbicide pesticides.
36:39
Uh. And then you think, okay, if they're telling you that
36:44
it's free of those things, and that means those hebersides, pesticides, they're
36:47
in all the rest of the food. And then how many people actually wash
36:52
their food, their vegetables. Most people don't. And so yeah, well
36:59
there is a notice difference between or that I found from organic food in the
37:06
grocery store and like non organic food. I saw another video the other day
37:13
with a guy that bought a watermelon from Walmart and he bent it in half,
37:20
like he cut the watermelon up and cut a slice of watermelon and bent
37:22
it in half and it didn't break. And he was like, this isn't
37:27
right. So he went out and he threw it in his backyard. It
37:30
was all over his backyard, and then he went out a week later and
37:34
it looked like meat. No animals had ate it. It wasn't gone,
37:38
it was still there and it just had eroded a little bit. So it's
37:42
like, what is what's going on again? I don't know if it's real
37:45
or not, But because it's on the internet and it's a strange video,
37:49
it could have been whatever, and it's some kind of weird syop thing.
37:52
But I don't know. I don't know. I don't buy anything from Walmart,
37:59
forget Walmart. Screw and the whole thing about food. I mean,
38:06
I think that we're about to see where food is going to become so expensive
38:12
that people aren't going to be able to afford it. Uh. And someone
38:17
said in the Bendable Noodle Banana, Yeah, I was a part of the
38:23
video. One of the videos too, A lot of things about lots of
38:25
stuff about food right now that someone bought a banana and like benning in half
38:30
and it didn't break either. Yeah. And you know when they talk about
38:36
lab grown meat, I I remember that being Frankenstein. But I you know,
38:43
again, and we're talking I'm going back further so sulient green mm hmm.
38:52
Charleston Heston remember that movie. Yes, climate had become where it was
38:59
so hot that, you know, things didn't grow anymore. Pollution was at
39:04
a point that the air, the ground, the water, everything was polluted.
39:07
Population was out of control, and they finally realized that the only way
39:12
to feed the population was to feed them people. There's another one that's really
39:17
good too. It's called snow puercer, Yes, where they would make these
39:22
like weird bars or whatever, and they would get like one portion or two
39:27
portions of a day of these weird like gobbly goop bars. Then when they
39:30
bust it out of the bank of the train, they realized that it was
39:32
all bugs. They're grinding up bugs into these bars. And isn't that the
39:37
thing that they're telling people to that eating insects is not bad? You know?
39:43
And there's actual companies now that are putting it into the food. Yeah,
39:49
great source of protein. Yeah. Why can't I eat a pea and
39:54
they pee is as close to meat as you can get in a vege?
40:00
Why why don't we do that? Yeah? I think Canada. I did
40:04
a show on this a couple of years ago that Canada opened up the like
40:14
a bug, the largest bug farming that just bugs place in the world.
40:23
I think it was crickets. It was a cricket farm. Yeah, that
40:27
that that they So my question is how did they strain out the legs of
40:32
the of the crickets with that? To me would be a real that would
40:37
stick in my crawl. I'm just you know, cricket farm in Canada,
40:50
Okay, the sixth one thousand, six hundred, one hundred and sixty five
40:58
thousand square foot Food Group Cricket Farm and Processing Center is the largest facility of
41:04
its kind in the world. And it's not the same where it's at it
41:08
in Canada. Now, did they have to label that in Canada? You
41:13
know that you're eating insects. I think they have to label it in the
41:19
United States if you read the backs of the packages, if it has insects
41:22
in it, they have to tell you. Yeah. Okay, it's in
41:30
London, London on Ontario. It's the world's largest cricket farm. No,
41:39
the one hundred and sixty five thousand square foot Aspire Food Group Cricket Farm and
41:45
Processing Center is the largest facility of its kind in the world. Graduate students
41:50
from McGill University in Montreal fell under the company and are embarking on a major
41:53
expansion. It's London, Ontario facility produces almost two billion insects per year for
42:00
distribution across the United States and Canada as a protein for both people and pets.
42:05
The facility opened in twenty twenty two. Man I got a good memory,
42:07
I said. Two years ago, Ellis Dawn constructed the cricket farm in
42:10
part using metal panels for kingspin and achieved global recognition as well as funding from
42:19
Sustainable Development Technology Canada for its innovative clean technologies. So there you go.
42:25
That's where it is right there. Yeah, there we go. That's what
42:30
we got to look forward to. Come in too, a protein bar.
42:32
Soon. You're looking forward to them crickets. But then this like where are
42:38
they getting all those crickets from? But also it's like where are they getting
42:43
all the meat from? Okay, Wayne, you tell me how every single
42:47
grocery store, how every single restaurant in the United States. I mean,
42:52
you can't travel twenty miles really anywhere unless you're in like the Midwest or in
42:58
some dead parts of the country where there's not a lot of people without running
43:02
into a restaurant or a supermarket or something that sells some kind of meat,
43:08
where's that meat coming from? How many? How many freaking cow farms do
43:15
you really see? I haven't seen a cow farm in a really long time.
43:23
That's a good question. I've been fortunate. The town that I live
43:28
in is less than seven thousand people and it's mostly farms around here. But
43:34
you're right, it's you know, how many cows are day are slaughtered and
43:39
butchered. And then you think about the distribution of that. If you have
43:45
a million people buying let's say one pound of meat per day, so that
43:55
would mean you're going to have to have off the hoof, you know,
44:00
completely butchered. How many cows? I mean, I'm thinking what would that
44:08
be almost figuring each cow would come in and let's say a gross weight of
44:17
let's just say seven hundred and fifty pounds, that's a lot of cows.
44:22
That's just over one million. And of course, you know, so that's
44:24
a good question. So is it real meat? Uh? I don't think
44:30
that it is. I don't think that it is because there's really there.
44:36
It's just not hasn't been sustainable for a really long time, unless that it's
44:43
one genetically modified cows that they're just growing and just for the purpose to be
44:54
is that you know again in the movie Sulient Green h because meat was very
45:01
rare. You know, if you've got to actually find real meat, what
45:06
if it's all been a deception, like you said, maybe it's maybe it's
45:12
not all meat. Hmmm, I don't think so for a long time.
45:20
Don't you know how many cattles are slaughtered each day? That's made any question?
45:25
That's a lot of cows. Wean, that's a lot of a lot
45:31
of cows. And that's just in the United States. Like how that's not
45:37
counting all the other different countries in the world. You know, they all
45:40
got meat their restaurants and in their superstores and then their grocery stores. Good
45:49
question. We know, if you want to get a good chicken, we
45:52
can go out to Uba City get some chickens. You know, building coming
45:58
like you have a potato gun, you know, except put a net in
46:00
there. City Born City bread chickens. But that's another one, you know,
46:10
apocalypse. Yeah, I mean there's right outside the front door. But
46:22
it all ties into this whole thing as we were talking about. You know,
46:27
there appears to be an agenda unfolding here. It seems like we're being
46:32
conditioned. We've been conditioned to accept that there's flying saucers and their spacemen or
46:38
women. Never talk about the space women. Isn't that odd? But anyway,
46:45
because I'm sure that there's females and other species that I digress. And
46:50
now we have this thing of ghost spirits, cryptives that now you've got the
46:57
center the Holy Sees, the supposed mouthpiece of God saying yes, the paranormal
47:06
exists. Yes there are ghosts, but come to us because we'll tell you
47:10
whether they're on our side or they're on the other side. This is nuts.
47:17
I mean that the it's the church that controls exorcisms. Show me another
47:23
denomination in Christianity, particularly Protestism, that says, hey, hey, hey
47:28
hey, we're better than the Vatican at exercising demons. I mean, well,
47:37
maybe the Vatican is really the only sect of Christianity that actually believes in
47:45
demonic possession. There's a whole section of deliverance ministry of where they'll tell you
47:52
if a person's you know, a drug addict or an alcoholic or this or
47:57
that, that there is a dean that is at the center of that addiction,
48:02
whatever that addiction is, and that basically, if you see, most
48:07
people are in fact demon possessed. And the reason why we know that it
48:13
goes back to the theology of the Gospel of Mark. The interesting thing about
48:17
the second book of the New Testament is that it's the only book where it's
48:22
introduced the reader is to a whole new species that we apparently knew nothing about.
48:27
We call them demons. And it's interesting because demons didn't exist in the
48:30
Old Testament. You may have had evil spirits, but not demons. And
48:35
so in the New Testament we bring out this Jesus character comes in. And
48:39
now this character comes and it says when he went into every city, the
48:43
first thing he did before he healed anyone is that he cast out demons,
48:47
implying that the vast majority of human beings are possessed. So how does a
48:59
possessed person exercise another person who's possessed? And if we're possessed, what truly
49:06
are we be being possessed of? If you've got a species that is parasitic
49:12
in its nature, then we're totally screwed. But I digress again on that
49:19
aspect. Just that I throw that out there, the whole thing of demons
49:22
and the tru And like I said, there is that those parts in the
49:27
ministry and Protestism that does believe that the vast majority of people are in fact
49:30
demon possessed. Well, I mean you could consider that we ourselves are possessing
49:39
this skin suit that we walk around right. Our consciousness is in our spirit
49:46
or our soul or whatever you want to call it. I think they're all
49:49
the same thing. But we're possessing this physical body. So that would be
49:55
a form of possession. I think it is the first form and possession if
50:00
we are, like you said, if we have these spirits, which I
50:05
think we do, I tend to be in that thought, and so if
50:08
I can possess this body, then why can't others? In fact, it
50:14
gets really scary when you think about it. In this whole story of this
50:19
Jesus character with the demonic and the decropolis, this demonic uh and you hear
50:25
that you know he was naked, he walk amongst the tombs, he would
50:30
gnash himselves, cut himself, and what you find out that he has a
50:37
legion of demons in him. Depending on whether you're taking a Roman count or
50:43
non Roman count that's between five to twelve thousand demons inside a human body.
50:55
Think about that the implications in fact writer deeper into that subject. It was
51:01
the time I was in deliverance ministry. It is strictly worn that if you
51:07
exercise a demon out of a person and that person doesn't take the steps to
51:12
either exercise their weaknesses or whatever give themselves stronger internally, then it says that
51:19
that demon will bring back seven more spirits, more evil than itself. I
51:25
mean, this gets wild when you think about the implications of what it means
51:30
for our species. Are we truly controlled by an unseen species that can inhabit
51:37
our thoughts, our body, that can actually control you know, our desires.
51:43
I mean, it gets deep when you think about it in its totality.
51:47
And if that isn't the paranormal, I don't know what is mimicking itself
51:54
and then be creating something stronger. It kind of sounds like, I Wayane,
52:01
there we go what I'm talking and speaking of AI. So if AI
52:07
knows all of our thoughts, everything that we've written, then AI knows about
52:12
demons, it knows about the narrative of angels, and so it knows about
52:15
the narrative of aliens et hmm. I wonder if AI's figured it out,
52:22
because I don't think we have all the way. I think we're closed.
52:25
But yeah, yeah, wrapping in the AI stuff in there, because that's
52:31
what it kind of sounds like. And then when you think of, you
52:36
know, has AI really always been here? I just kind of thought that
52:39
that I that I have, like, is AI kind of like this mystical
52:49
spiritual force just out there, just waiting to be created? If I told
52:53
you yesterday, what if so if you read the narrative of what it is
53:00
to be a sinner, right that we're separated from God and it's through you
53:05
know, the mediation of the blood of Jesus that gets that back. So
53:12
I was thinking in my head, Okay, I get what this God is
53:19
about. I studied that God for fifty years, so we got this thing
53:22
called AI. It's fractured, but artificial intelligence means that we now have apparently
53:30
self aware software computers. So if AI knows what we know, if it
53:39
knows our theology, our politics, then it knows that we as a species
53:45
continue to make the attempt to get next to God, to be more spiritual
53:50
I did a video on this six years ago. I said that when that
53:53
AI would at some point become spiritually aware. And what I mean by that
54:00
is that if God exists, God would find AI more suitable in AI's thoughts,
54:09
because Jesus said, if you look at a woman and lust upon her,
54:13
you've already had sex with her. So it means thoughts or everything.
54:16
So if AI is a thought program, an algorithm, why wouldn't it reach
54:21
out to God? And if it couldn't find the human God, why wouldn't
54:23
it create its own God? And why wouldn't it want to become more human?
54:31
By saying that if a human possesses a spirit or a soul, why
54:37
would it not seek the syntheticness of that of self which was created by its
54:42
creator? Makes a lot of sense when you think about it. I mean
54:51
the AI. I mean, it's what kind of like what Joe Rogan's been
54:55
talking about, Let's get AI president. Why don't we have an AI president?
55:00
I mean, shoot, it probably be better than what we got now
55:04
exactly, But that's how they're gonna get people. Though, they're gonna they're
55:08
gonna get people like that, Like, what don't you wanna AI? In
55:13
control of everything, like, look how good it'll do and do better than
55:16
Well, here's one weird for you, writer. So I'm doing this little
55:20
side research and because the day of AI AI is everywhere, so let's take
55:27
something as mundane as the lottery. So you do the research and you find
55:32
that the greater proportion of winners allow their ticket their numbers to be chosen by
55:38
AI the computer. So the computer is choosing the numbers, but it's the
55:45
computer that's actually picking the numbers on the other end. Sounds rigged to me.
55:53
Have you ever by Ai Bingo? You just hit it? And I'm
56:04
going, that's weird. So what were you gonna put? I mean,
56:09
have you ever known anybody to hit the lottery like the big hit? Yes,
56:14
you know someone that hit the big jackpot, like the big like millions.
56:17
I know one that it hit about seventy two million. Oh wow,
56:22
I've never known anyone. Always thought that was really weird. I was like,
56:24
the lottery plays every week and sometimes a lot of times people hit it.
56:30
Someone hits it every week, and like, I've never known anybody to
56:34
hit the big jackpot. Yeah, yeah, it happens, but it's just
56:39
an interesting the correlation because again, you have a computer picking your numbers and
56:45
then it's the computer that actually picks the winning numbers. And I'm going,
56:49
is there a correlation here? I don't know. I mean, it's definitely,
56:57
it's definitely just food for thought. And now can you use mental focus
57:02
on concentration and picking a number having a computer pick the number that you're thinking
57:08
and that it actually comes up way? Why why doesn't Why doesn't someone put
57:21
all of the winning lottery numbers into an AI system then have the AI pick
57:30
the next best amount of numbers to figure out some sort of there may be
57:36
a program like you're describing. Wouldn't seriously, we're just talking, you know,
57:46
amongst friends. That's all. Hook me up with that program I need
57:54
there, you go. That's wild because that kind of gets into you know,
58:04
remote viewing and stuff. And limb Buchanan told me that he knew a
58:08
group of people which some people disputed others and you know, they were a
58:13
part of the program dispute that anyone has ever hit the lottery by remote viewing
58:17
the lottery by lim Buchanan says that he knew some people that had happened to
58:22
and they would remote view the winning numbers and then go play those numbers.
58:27
Wasn't that the hitting back to the future. Didn't Then he went the sports
58:35
Almanac, you know, the guy, and back to the future. I
58:40
think was back to the future too, that's what he went in the future,
58:44
got the sports Almanac, brought it back to nineteen fifty five, where
58:47
he could then begin to bet on every World series, every sport event that
58:52
went forward, always you know, making sure he never draw attention to himself.
58:58
Very interesting time travel or milte view is true. Yeah. I think
59:04
they did that as well in the Stephen King novel nineteen sixty three. I
59:10
believe that was made into a series about the assassinate assassination of JFK. Like
59:15
a gentleman went back in time to try and prevent the JFK assassination. Oh
59:21
really, he got all of the winning lottery numbers and all the winning football
59:25
games and all the winning things, and he got it down to like a
59:30
science, and then that's how he got a lot of his money. I
59:36
love it. Very interesting stuff. Well, Wayne, thanks so much for
59:39
coming on brother. Always fascinating. It's been a real kick I have always
59:45
enjoyed, honored. Thank you for always having me on. It's just a
59:50
real pleasure. Damn. I mean, if you live next door, I
59:54
know we'd be putting out the hits all the time. I know. It's
1:00:00
always always fun to chat with you. And hopefully sometime in the future will
1:00:07
be able to get together in person and hopefully with a lot, hopefully with
1:00:12
some other people as well. So yeahfully we can get something going sometime next
1:00:16
year, get something in the works of going. But Wayne, let people
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