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Men Are Just Too Afraid To Approach Us! Part 2 | Rantzerker 187 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Coming to you live from deep within a leafy and windy and still actually not
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  too bad radioactive wasteland. We are the survivors of the alt right apocalypse,
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  once more, wading into battle against the froggy Lobster, not being approached hoards
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  with Rent Zirker number one eighty seven, the second Men are just too afraid
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  to approach us. Part two, hopefully, the part in which we finished
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  this. We are we are more than halfway through it. So yeah,
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  we are more through it. That is all. I'm good I am gonna
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  say too. It is actually a fairly nice wasteland. It's not icy,
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  it's not snowy, it's not even windy here. It's actually shirt sleeve weather.
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  It's actually it's actually here where I am, where I am. I
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  go out in bare feet in my tank talk to go take my dog out
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  to pete. Okay, well you might actually you might actually have warmer weather,
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  which means that it's going to end up here soon, which is good.
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  That is usually the way it works. It's a little chili like.
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  It's under twenty degrees celsius here, so under twenty okay, yeah, No,
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  eleven degrees is shirt sleeve weather. Allison, that's eleven celsius for you
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  Americans, not for me. I'm not going to go around and shirt sleeves
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  in eleven degrees celsius. Oh, it's eleven celsius. Is no sleeve weather
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  for me unless it's really windy or humid or always really out here. So
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  it's it's always a little more chilly, I think then it would be plus
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  the cities are warmer in general. But anyway, so it's not quite as
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  bad as it could be, guys. That's the takeaway. That is the
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  takeaway. This video is not quite as bad as it could be, too,
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  you know, I mean, so far, nothing particularly laudable, but
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  nothing really rage inducing from this human Yeah. No, like Lauren's generally good
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  people. I mean, I think she's trying to kind of understand, and
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  she's she's sort of open to hearing the other side out, and you know,
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  like she might think that, oh, here's a solution you know that
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  other people have tried for like the last twenty years that she just doesn't know
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  about, right, Oh why don't you try this? Right? And it's
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  it's I think it's coming from a it's coming from a decent place, right,
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  I think if it worked, men would have tried it. I mean,
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  men aren't just like, oh my god, women are demanding that we,
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  you know, I don't know, not thrust them against the wall and
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  like like that Romeo and julietline that we actually be, you know, somewhat
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  polite. And it's not that it's it. You know, if if if
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  it was something doable, I think men would have done it by now to
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  be able to have tried. Probably he would have tried, and then they
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  would have been shamed out of existence, like the p uas eh yeah,
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  well yeah no, and that whole thing, the pickup artist thing, right,
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  the moment that anybody stumbled on something that worked, Like, who was
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  that guy? Neil? I want to wrote the game? Right? Oh
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  god, I can't remember his history. No, no, no, Neil
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  something or other, but he wrote the book the game, and he was
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  like it was basically he'd cracked the code, right, He'd cracked the code
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  of how to get into a woman's pants and her being like absent. What
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  was that guy's name? One Neil, the guy who wrote the game.
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  No, not Neil de grass Tyson. The game, like the movie was
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  the not the movie, the game, the book the book The Game right
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  that the pick up artist Neil Neil Strouss Neil Strauss. That sounds right,
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  he says, But I wouldn't. I wouldn't necessarily believe him because he's got
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  a worse memory than me. But but you know, he wrote a book
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  about how young Neil Diamond, Oh my sweet sweet Caroline, Oh my sweet
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  baby Jesus. But but yeah, no, it's so uh yeah, Neil
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  whatever his name is, I think it was or something like that, he
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  wrote a book on basically how to get women to want us, we want
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  to sleep with you. And it's like everybody was furious. Everybody was furious,
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  and it's it's because like we figured out how they were and we can
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  we can actually intentionally signal things that might not be one hundred percent correct,
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  like our status, or we can act like we have more status than we
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  have. We can act like we have more money than we have. We
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  can we can get fit, hit the gym. It was that bad,
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  I think, Yeah, it's just the social cues of someone who's who's self
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  confident and who's desirable, who's desirable, and he didn't Yeah, doesn't even
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  have to reference like acting like you have more money than you do just giving
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  off these desirable social cues. And he developed this strategy for help. Then
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  the become more socially desirable, and everybody and their dog piled on pickup artists
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  that they were piling on instells, and before they were piling on Andrew Tap,
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  like yes, before, before they were even piling on m ras.
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  Really, I mean they just ignored m ras. Yeah, and then they
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  started piling on us too, well, piling I don't know, they've been
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  piling on m ras for decades. Really, it's it's always like they get
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  pissed off at someone else and then they punch us. Well there you go,
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  yeah, because it's easy because they love us all in together, because
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  like oh, you know the roue V, the m R Alec Manassei,
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  and the m R A. You know what's his name, Rogers, the
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  Roger Elliott Rogers, Elliott Elliott Rogers. Now everything is in cell, Karen,
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  I know now everything now, even m rs or in cells, because
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  in cells are even more dangerous than are having issues of custody and alimony.
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  They're in cells. That's their problem. I know, I know their problem
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  is that they had three kids with some woman. But they're involuntarily celibates.
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  Oh, I've heard about it in cell recently, there was a there was
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  a woman on Twitter who described how her current partner his ex wife, basically
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  said you're going to have sex with me or you won't see your kids again.
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  That's a that's an in cell problem, if there ever was, definitely
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  definitely problem. Yeah, as a man in cell problem, Yeah, explain
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  about sexual violence from women are definitely in cells. Yeah. No, My
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  my ex when I first got with him, he was he'd had he had
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  an ex wife who was milking him for alimony and child support. She used
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  that to get a problem, to get a boob job. But and then
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  she, uh, he got with this other woman who you know, claimed
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  to be a battered woman or her ex was in prison for battering her,
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  right, and she just absolutely she she was volatile, violent, you know,
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  like you know how Aaron Pitsy used to describe herself, right, you
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  know, like just belligerent, violent, you know, just she had been
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  born into a cycle of violent people, right, And whether that was genetically
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  heritable or whether that was just epigenetically heritable, like the level of cortisol in
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  her mother's womb, you know, inducing a type of stress response in in
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  you know, the baby, conditioning the baby for to have that kind of
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  response, or just observational. You know, dad beats mom. Mom beats
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  dad. When mom's really mad at dad, she beats the kids, right,
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  and she you know, like, so you have this the generational kind
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  of perpetuation of violence as the solution to conflict. Right, And my eggs
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  got with this woman who clearly her ex was not the Maybe he belonged in
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  prison, I don't know, but he was not the only one of the
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  two who belonged in prison. Like he my ex said, you know,
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  he had a an argument. She would she would get shoes on meds like
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  antidepressants, right, you're not supposed to drink when you're taking those, and
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  she'd get one and a half beers in and then she'd just turned. They'd
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  be sitting watching TV, right, and she'd turn to him and she'd say,
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  you know what your problem is, and she'd just start in on him.
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  And then by the end, like he had a set of chef grade
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  pots and pans, all the handles were broken off because she'd slam them around,
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  throw them at him. All of this stuff, right, he says,
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  I never laid a finger on her, and I believe him right,
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  just after being with him for fifteen years, I totally believe that he would
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  have never laid a finger on her. He decides one night they're having this
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  big drag out fight. He goes to the hotel where he was working as
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  a cook and gets a room, and he tells the evening clerk, the
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  swing shift clerk at the desk, not to let her in, don't tell
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  her I'm here, don't let her in, don't give her a key,
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  And that guy forgot to tell the graveyard guy about that. So she shows
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  up at like two o'clock in the morning and she's like, oh, you
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  know, we're having a weekend get away, and she gets a key.
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  She nagels a key because they know who she is, right, And then
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  he's like, it was like in that scene in play Misty for Me where
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  Clint eastwo Wood wakes up from a sound sleep and she's standing over him with
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  a knife, right, and she just starts stabbing and he's like fighting her
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  off, and then like all of the people in the rooms around him phone
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  the cops. The cops come and try to arrest him. Right, He's
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  lying there covered in his own blood, and you know. And so I'm
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  like, and what was what was going on when I first got with him.
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  Well, she was stealing his mail. She was locking her dog in
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  the house that she still had keys to, right, that he owned that
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  he was trying to sell, locking her dog in there for days to shit
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  and piss all over everything. So when the realtor would try to show it,
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  there would be dog shit and piss all over everything. This little fluvy
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  dog would go bolting out the door, right and uh, and yeah,
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  she was stealing his mail. One of the pieces of mail she stole was
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  the uh, the notice to appear in court from his ex wife, okay,
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  so that she could increase the alimony. Right. And then they phone
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  the day before the court date like we haven't heard back from you, like
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  do you know that you're due in court? And I'm just like, what
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  the fuck? Right? And then I find out these bites are having coffee,
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  They're like hanging out, and I'm like, what the no, well,
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  yeah, no, and I'm sorry. This is not an in cell
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  problem. It's not an in cell problem. It's a stuck his dick and
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  crazy problem. Yeah, and she and then she's writing him. So she
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  breaks the lock on the super mailbox, right, like the big mailbox that
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  they have in uh areas with acreages. Right, She breaks his padlock,
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  and she steals all his mail, and she leaves a card saying, if
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  only we could be together. But I know that circumstances are keeping us apart.
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  But I love you so much. And I'm like, what the fuck.
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  We're moving. We're moving. I don't care whether we go north or
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  whether we go east, but we're leaving. We're going now. You need
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  like a mote and some alligators. Oh Jesus, it was was a fucking
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  cycle. And then she sues him. She sues him. Oh, this
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  is over the property that he solely owned. It was in his name.
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  She loaned him eighteen hundred dollars worth of her welfare while he was supporting her
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  for like a year. Okay, she loans in eighteen hundred dollars to help
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  him buy the place. Right, he pays her back, and then she's
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  like, well, that was half the down payment, So I'm claiming half
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  the cost of the sale and half half of the money he earned logging the
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  property. So she made she made, She collected two thirds of the profits
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  off that property, he got one third. Did that make sense to anyone?
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  Well, you know, they did change things a little bit not long
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  afterwards, but like what the fuck. I'm just like, yeah, okay,
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  and he going, he goes in front of the he goes in front
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  of the judge that just says, why aren't you represented? He says,
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  if I could afford a lawyer, I wouldn't be here. Okay. So
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  it's really it's really irritating to have your misogyny misclassified. We're not in the
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  category of men who are suffering because they don't have female companionship, where we
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  sort of talk and advocate for the men who suffer for having had female companionship.
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  Yeah, oh yeah, No, like some of these women, like
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  the Will Smith thing, the Jada Pinkett Smith thing, she's like going on
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  tour, like humiliating him even more because you know, they were permanently separated.
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  They were living completely separate lives when he went and smashed Chris rock cross
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  face like they weren't even together, they weren't even fucking. Yeah, we
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  talked about that on yesterday's show. Yeah, somebody complained that, you guys
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  said that Will needs to man up that I know. No, he's talking
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  about he should have a spine, Allison. That's not manning up. I'm
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  not pulling that shit. But I mean, like, if you're you shouldn't
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  look I'm saying that. And I don't know. If you guys disagree with
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  me in the chat, then say so. But like, at some point
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  you have to stand up for yourself. I go with what Paul says.
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  You know they're there sometimes, yes, people are victimized, and yes,
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  sometimes that's men. But at some point, at some point, there are
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  victims that there are volunteers. Right, yeah, Well, and I don't
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  I don't even care about you know that he didn't stand up for himself.
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  Fine, don't stand up for yourself. You've been separated from this bitch since
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  twenty six yeah, right, Okay, she's fucking some other guy as you
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  as you're sitting there with her pretending that you're still together in public. Well,
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  she's making him, you know, carry on with the acts like oh,
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  let's go. And then he goes to the oscars with a woman he's
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  been separated from for what five years? Four years at this point already.
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  Yeah, and then and then she still expects him to go up there and
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  defend her honor by essentially like making a mockery of the whole the Oscars and
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  slapping Chris Rock across the face over nothing, over someone who isn't even interested
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  in him anymore. I mean, yeah, I'm sorry, but at some
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  point, like I gotta say, you know, that's not that's not that's
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  not Will Smith being a victim. That's Will Smith volunteering, Yeah, to
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  defend the indefensible, Yeah, which is some bitch, some bitch who treats
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  him like shit. Okay, who wants to keep pretending that they're together because
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  it helps her career, it helps her pro public profile. Well, right,
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  because if if being apart from him, if being separated from him,
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  if she was able to move on from that and like get jobs and and
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  be successful, right, she she would have done it. She would have
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  been like, yeah, no, like we're not together anymore, I'm not
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  riding his coattails. No, she needed to continue to ride his coattails because
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  he was still highly popular and yeah, and well way more successful. I
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  mean like, just okay, what's her best role. What's her most famous
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  role? The hippo in Madagascar? So yeah, she had a little role
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  in the matrix. Uh reloaded, I think yeah, I mean like,
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  and she dated Tupac for a while, okay, but you know it's it's
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  like I'm looking at it, and she's like, she's a she's a freaking
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  gold dig and whore, right, who didn't want to give up her gold
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  mine. And you know, and she's just like, oh, yeah,
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  no, we're going to pretend that I still own this gold mine and I'm
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  still working this gold mine and this gold mine and I are like, we're
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  partners and and but I'm I'm not giving you no sex, I'm not giving
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  you no nothing. We're living apart, and you're going to show up at
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  every public event with me as if we're still together. And then after four
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  years of that, okay, then he annihilates his freaking public reputation. Yeah,
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  over over a joke. And she's still because she and she and she's
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  on she's on the public humiliation tour, right, I'm saying after that,
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  now she's the one that's like, you know what that facade that we were
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  doing, I'm not doing it anymore, and I'm gonna throw you under the
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  bus now. And then how does Will respond? He's like Oh, well,
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  she's just so, she's just so smart and wonderful, and he's still
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  like white nighting for her. I'm saying like that. I'm sorry, let
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  me interject a different opinion. Do you think that he would be given an
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  inch if he said this, this is a gold digginghore, this little stealing
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  gold digging hoore. No, but he could he could basically say, you
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  know, like I don't have anything to do with her. I'm fine,
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  like we're separated, we're we're split up. I'm fine, and we don't
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  have anything to do with each other, and so go ask someone else.
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  And he could have made a different decision, right, But the whole reason
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  I think why he actually hit Chris Rock. Okay, Chris Rock asked Jada
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  Pinkett Smith out on a date after he heard because he heard through the grape
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  vine that they weren't together anymore, so he wanted to date her. That
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  was a big bullet he dodged, right, So Will's like, I'm already
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  met at Chris Rock. And then Chris Rock makes the joke, and she
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  rolls her eyes and acts like she's upset, right, and then he goes
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  up and he's gonna play the grand freaking hero and then she's totally gonna bang
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  him tonight and for every night forevermore. And instead of doing that, right,
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  that was his fantasy, I'm sure, right, and uh and then
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  and then it just blew up in his face, and he's still fucking clinging
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  to that strategy, right, and there comes a time, right you can
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  you can say, like, take take the man up attitude out of it,
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  okay, because what he was doing when he hit Chris Rock was manning
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  up. Okay, take that shit out of it, and just basically say
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  like, you don't have to man up, you just have to stop being
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  a fucking doormat for this bitch, right, Like, this is a woman
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  who's who's she's like a a She's a black hole in a mini skirt who
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  choose up men and then they don't much care whether she freaking swallows them or
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  spits them out. That's what she is. Yeah, I mean, I
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  said, I never used the term man up, But what I would say
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  is that Will's integrity should be worth more than his reputation. And what would
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  have been the wisest thing was for him to not respond at all or laugh,
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  because he did originally laugh at the joke and when I again, if
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  Jada gives him the daggers, who fucking cares like we're not together? You
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  know what I mean? I mean, it would have been even better if
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  he went up there and joined Chris Rock and roasting Jada like a little bit
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  more. But that's what I would have liked to have seen. But like
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  it didn't happen. He made a choice. I think that, Like,
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  you know, I have sympathy for male feminists and simps because I get like
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  why they're in that position, but something got to shake them out because they're
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  just dealing with more and more abuse. And we we anyway we talked about
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  on the show yesterday. Yeah, it is very it's very self destructive.
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  But let me go ahead. Yeah, let me just do the because we
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  got a few sho super chows and I want to do the the call outs.
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  So I got some super chows and then we'll get into the video.
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  Only about a half hour in, all right. So I got one from
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  djt This was earlier today before the show, for twenty five dollars, Thank
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  you, DJ chat Ta and they say fresh supply of Internet hamsters for you,
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  maintaining frame number seventy. I think that's from a while ago. I'm
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  pretty sure the super chatter was so quiet that stream because everyone was sitting back,
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  closing their eyes and thinking of Rome. I think that was the Rome
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  Show. Then be talking about, you know, thinking about the Roman Empire.
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  Then I got one from anonymous for ten dollars and they say, in
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  a previous stream, you brought up the college consent escalation, Can I hold
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  your hand, can I kiss you? Et cetera, and summed it up
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  as quote, avoiding sexual assault by committing sexual harassment end quote. I can't
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  quite get this out of my head. And even without that escalation, isn't
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  that already the standard for anyone trying for intimacy. It's not really a reassuring
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  thought that basically all relationships are risking soft sexual harassment, well allegations, avoiding
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  the hard sexual assaultations. And even gets worse when you think you're risking harassment
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  to even start this whole process. And I'm not filled with hope for any
• 27:07
  of this humanity. Well, it's it is, it is. Actually it's
• 27:11
  the catch twenty two. Yeah no, because some of these campuses have defined
• 27:18
  sexual harassment as asking a girl out who doesn't want to go out with you
• 27:26
  once and take her not for an answer, Right, that's an unwanted sexual
• 27:30
  overture. Yeah, and so it's like, okay, why are men scared
• 27:36
  of approaching women? I know, wild, Yeah, it's crazy. I
• 27:42
  don't understand. I don't understand why anyone would like just cool their heels and
• 27:48
  cool their jets and play video games instead. Yeah, no idea. It's
• 27:53
  it's a mystery. It's a it's a true mystery. All right. Uh
• 28:00
  so I got another super Chow Chow from Richard Bierre for five dollars and he
• 28:08
  says, anyone remember the book The Rules, which was advice for women to
• 28:15
  land the man that they wanted. And there was a Ted or TEDx talk
• 28:19
  where the presenter was explaining her program. Quote you choose, he chases end
• 28:23
  quote as Allison forgiven me for inflicting torture upon her. Yet I guess that
• 28:26
  has to do with the eye. Yeah, he gave me an eight minute
• 28:33
  song that was oh no, one that actually that I don't know he gave
• 28:38
  you. He gave you World revolving, World revolving, Yes, which but
• 28:45
  every other beat, oh god, that was just hell to listen to too.
• 28:48
  Yeah, I know it was paid for. It's just subtly wrong.
• 28:53
  Only someone of the spectrum could enjoy that. It just drives just subtly wrong.
• 28:59
  So there's one too huge What every other meat beat is missing from Thunderstruke.
• 29:04
  It's just so soubtly wrong. It's like AI music. Yeah, it's
• 29:10
  it's like AI music. It almost feels right, but there's something so wrong
• 29:14
  about it that it just like at the end of the song, you're like,
• 29:17
  why do I feel like offing myself? Way? Yeah, maybe that's
• 29:22
  all the super Child's Thanks guys, and I guess we can get into the
• 29:27
  rest of Lauren Chen's video. Yes, okay, all right, let's let's
• 29:33
  let's do it. So, all right, we're gonna play some more of
• 29:37
  you guys in there ready to watch? I am you know Lauren Chen did.
• 29:41
  It's actually kind of interesting just to say this before we get started.
• 29:45
  Lauren Chen did do a recent I guess you could say, uh, interview
• 29:51
  or discussion with MICHAELEB Peterson, and they were discussing the dating market. And
• 29:56
  I'm seeing more and more people talking about this stuff, and I I think
• 30:00
  that there's genuine concern. So hopefully everyone that's on that journey is going to
• 30:06
  find themselves over in this dark corner of the Internet, like at least like
• 30:11
  in the the honest corner. Like, yeah, I'm saying, the honest
• 30:15
  corner of the Internet. Yeah. The thing is that is it dark because
• 30:19
  the solution that everything starts with being honest. Yes, it does. But
• 30:23
  that's hard fight a delusion. No, it's hard for people. It's hard
• 30:27
  for people to you know. But the other thing I wanted to say is,
• 30:32
  yeah, they should be afraid because it's not just demographic collapse. The
• 30:37
  a lot of the things that a society requires from men are incentivized through the
• 30:42
  process of pair bonding and courtships. So, in other words, a society
• 30:48
  captures that instinct to spread your your peak bock's tail, and takes that instinct
• 30:56
  and applies it to the the the whatever that society requires to maintain itself,
• 31:00
  protect itself, build itself. And if men are no longer courting and doing
• 31:07
  the things that the society says require, are they as required for them to
• 31:12
  be worthy of women and worthy of courting women? Do you see what I'm
• 31:18
  saying? Like, if if we had a society of uh, you know,
• 31:22
  that required men to jump through flaming hoops, not just metaphorically, you
• 31:26
  know, but that that's what built the society. Then that society would most
• 31:30
  likely tie jumping through flaming hoops into into a sexual success, sexual and reproductive
• 31:38
  and social success with women, not sexual success. Yeah, but it's yeah,
• 31:44
  it's it's all of it's all of that, the entire, the entire
• 31:48
  package. And and then that society would be able to perpetuate itself by motivating
• 31:52
  men to jump through flaming hoops in order to to gain access to the resources
• 31:57
  that women have, and and that thing. And so when we're looking at
• 32:02
  this situation where men are turning away from courting the women of this society,
• 32:08
  that means they're turning away from building, maintaining and protecting the society. And
• 32:14
  it's not even they don't even have to, Like, men don't even have
• 32:16
  to pick up a spear and become the sea people. They just have to
• 32:22
  walk away at this point. Yeah, and you look at Warren Ferrell,
• 32:28
  right, what was his little analogy. If if tomorrow all women decided that
• 32:34
  the most attractive thing about a man was his ability to walk on his hands,
• 32:38
  Yeah, they'd all be walking on their hands. They'd all be trying
• 32:43
  desperately to learn how to walk on their and the entire industry of handwalking,
• 32:50
  entire and not just entire industry around teaching men to walk on hands, judging
• 32:54
  men who walk on hands, developing hand walking technologies. Yea, even like
• 33:00
  there would be books like how to meditate, how to become a better man
• 33:04
  by you know, like that hands. You know, it would would launch
• 33:08
  a whole bunch of things and uh and and would drive a lot of like
• 33:14
  the GDP. So it's like this, this stuff is critical. And when
• 33:20
  men walk away from courting women, they're walking away from more than just relationships
• 33:23
  with women, They're walking away from a relationship with society itself. Yeah,
• 33:30
  and yeah, you're fucked if you don't fix that. And it's so freaking
• 33:34
  funny because everybody I see, all these people who are like, well,
• 33:37
  the way to fix that is, well, we just blame men harder,
• 33:42
  Like why are they? Why are men engaging in so much toxic masculinity that's
• 33:46
  making women afraid and making women want to make it even more more dangerous to
• 33:52
  approach them. Yeah, like that's the left's answer to this. It's but
• 33:57
  but, but men are so toxically masculine makes women scared, So women should
• 34:01
  be able to you know, like just push a button and a gigantic,
• 34:06
  comically huge camera comes out and squishes him into a puck. You know,
• 34:10
  everything approaches, You know that that needs to happen because of toxic masculinity,
• 34:16
  And then you got the right saying, well, why does it matter if
• 34:20
  you get squished into a puck once out or every five or every two?
• 34:22
  Uh? Approaches like you should be able to man up and survive that.
• 34:30
  You know, It's like, okay, you both are screwed period. Like
• 34:36
  you're just not engaging with the problem. You're not engaging with it truthfully.
• 34:40
  You want to hide in blaming men because you don't want to engage with it
• 34:45
  truthfully. And if you don't engage with it truthfully, you're never gonna solve
• 34:47
  it. So welcome to the future. Mm hmm, Yeah, it's gonna
• 34:52
  be so fun. Okay, So I got a rumble. Rand Nova fan
• 35:00
  twenty one gives us a dollar and says, better Bachelor covered this today related
• 35:04
  to today's discussion, and then sends me a New York Post article. I'll
• 35:07
  drop it in here in case, just so you guys know what the I
• 35:10
  I heard about this, but I didn't read the article. Starbucks. Barissa's
• 35:15
  secret note on cup to help young women sparks heated debate what are men supposed
• 35:19
  to do? And it was a I guess on the code it said I'm
• 35:22
  the cup. She wrote this message, Are you okay? Do you want
• 35:27
  us to intervene? If you do, take the lid off the cup because
• 35:30
  some you know, some Starbucks saw that there was some man that was,
• 35:36
  you know, harassing her or dangerous to her. I mean, it's sparking
• 35:42
  a debate. I guess there's that. Can you drop that link in the
• 35:45
  someone to take a look at the comments? Yeah, sure, sure,
• 35:49
  let's I don't know if New York Posts has comments, but I will supposed
• 35:52
  to. They don't. They don't have comments. I don't think. I
• 35:58
  hate that. I saw the comment, saw that they had comments. Oh
• 36:00
  okay, just give me the link. I'll take a look at It's in
• 36:04
  the live show chat. It's in the live show chat. All right.
• 36:07
  So anyway, thank you for the super chat. Sorry the rumble rant Nova
• 36:14
  fan and let's continue this Lauren Chen video Lee Basis. And you couple that
• 36:20
  with the growth of online communities like feminists and in cells who kind of frequently
• 36:25
  demonize the other sex as just being scary and terrible. I think there are
• 36:30
  a lot of young people out there, both women and men, who spend
• 36:32
  a lot more time reading about the opposite sex or complaining about the opposite sex
• 36:37
  than they do actually interacting with them. And in that paradigm, I think
• 36:42
  it'd be very easy to build all women or all men up to be scary
• 36:46
  and intimidating to the point where you no longer feel like you can approach that.
• 36:51
  And to that end, it actually kind of reminds me of something Destiny
• 36:53
  said when he and I were on the Culture War with TIMPOOLA while, I'm
• 36:59
  pausing it there, just for the banana, okay, just to let you
• 37:02
  know you're echoing a little bit, I am, oh, okayeah. Maybe
• 37:07
  it's my things turned up too much. Is it like like it sounds the
• 37:10
  same, or it's just a little like like like my like the my headphones
• 37:15
  are being picked up by my microphone. Yeah, I think, Well,
• 37:19
  Lauren is echoing, okay, yeah, when you when you play her,
• 37:23
  she's echoing, all right, let me see, let me play a little.
• 37:27
  I'm just looking at the levels here while ago. Even when it comes
• 37:30
  to things like recreation what do a lot of men do for recreation now while
• 37:34
  they play games online? And don't get me wrong, obviously there's a social
• 37:37
  aspect to that. You can, you know, be chatting with guys as
• 37:39
  you're playing with them, but that's a very gender segregated hobby, which isn't
• 37:44
  a bad thing, but it's like, think about it. If you're a
• 37:46
  young man today, there's a good chance that you know, at least part
• 37:50
  of your high school and college experience was done remotely where you weren't actually going
• 37:54
  to class and therefore meeting women in person. And if you have a part
• 37:58
  time job, maybe you actually go into an office, but you might also
• 38:01
  be likely to just be doing things online. I mean, I know virtual
• 38:05
  assistance are really popular nowadays. There's even a lot of call center jobs where
• 38:08
  you don't actually need to go into an office, and so you're not getting
• 38:12
  exposure to women there either, and your free time, maybe you're also less
• 38:15
  likely to be actually going out to things like bars talking to women there.
• 38:17
  You could just be playing online. Nothing wrong with that inherently, but it's
• 38:22
  it's going to be probably just other dudes, and so you're not going to
• 38:25
  meet a woman there either. I know, well, yeah, no,
• 38:30
  but the point I just go ahead, I just do you want me to
• 38:35
  go? And no, no, no. Just meeting women through internets.
• 38:45
  Meeting women through online gaming is not generally a thing because they're usually halfway across
• 38:52
  the country. Right, It's like it's just not feasible. You're going on
• 38:58
  a massive multiplayer online role playing game or something like you go on a World
• 39:04
  of Warcraft or Fortnite or or Overwatch or Team Fortress two or something like that,
• 39:10
  Right, you're not meeting people in your community, right, that you
• 39:15
  could actually establish a relationship with. I mean, it's the same with deviant
• 39:20
  Art. Right. My daughter she has a guy that she's feels very close
• 39:25
  to, right, well, he's on the other side of the country,
• 39:30
  and so it's it's just like, well, you know, they really like
• 39:34
  each other and everything, but it's it's just not feasible to like, you
• 39:37
  know, maybe build a family or anything like that. So you're looking at
• 39:43
  a situation where like the online thing because it is so broad, so spread
• 39:49
  out, so like you're it's it's like our discord here, right, you
• 39:54
  know, we got people from the Netherlands, we got people from Germany,
• 39:58
  we got people from like all over the US and Canada. We got people
• 40:02
  from like everywhere, and like, how do you you can build friendships over
• 40:09
  that? You can't. You can't procreate from three thousand miles away. You
• 40:15
  just can't do it, right, You can't. You can't build a real
• 40:19
  romantic or partnership right under those circumstances. So you know, like it's but
• 40:30
  at the same time, you know, like both of my sons they go
• 40:36
  out and work with their physical bodies in the workplace, right like they they
• 40:44
  they meet women there, they interact with women there. There's just nobody that
• 40:51
  nobody that they're interested in that would be interested in them, right, And
• 40:57
  that's just how it is. Go ahead, out. I want to say
• 41:00
  something to this too, but I'm let Alison say her thing first. Okay.
• 41:05
  I think they're undercounting something that I noticed after the Kouff, A lot
• 41:10
  of men started to say, my life was so much better, so much
• 41:16
  more peaceful, so much more relaxed when approaching women or having anything to do
• 41:22
  with them was taken off the table. There are a substantial number of men
• 41:28
  who have realized that the solitude and the quiet that Koof brought them is worth
• 41:37
  keeping and they are not approaching women anymore, and it has nothing to do
• 41:42
  with fear of rejection. The other issue that some of the people the men
• 41:46
  said was they just self select themselves out. Like I mean, men can
• 41:51
  also make these make these cost benefit analysis and say, you know I am
• 41:58
  mid, you know I'm a I'm a five or lesser whatever that means for
• 42:01
  men, Yeah, don't. I don't make seven figures. Why would I
• 42:07
  expose myself to the amount of rejection and discomfort an unpleasant interaction for what for
• 42:19
  a mid woman? Like think about it, like a mid man is going
• 42:22
  to get a mid woman, and yet the mid woman is like the most
• 42:27
  expensive woman out there now. And the reason why is because you know,
• 42:31
  the mid the sheer amount of stuff a mid man has to get to get
• 42:36
  a woman. You see what I'm saying. Yeah, like if you're if
• 42:39
  you're a top you're top tier man, you don't have to go through as
• 42:44
  much of the crap. And yet any but the end of the road,
• 42:49
  like you know, maybe maybe you have to deal with one out of every
• 42:52
  ten is a rejection. In the end, you're getting a woman who is
• 42:57
  probably a higher, higher level. Shall we say, if we want to
• 43:00
  be so like, I don't know, juvenile, but if you are a
• 43:04
  man who's lower, you're going to be going through slogging through a hell of
• 43:07
  a lot of rejection and all just to get a woman who's about as good
• 43:10
  looking as you. You know, just mid, isn't it. Yeah?
• 43:15
  Yeah? No, Like okay. So there was a video on the channel
• 43:20
  Black Conservative Perspective a day or two ago right where this this woman, she
• 43:30
  she live streamed on TikTok right. She she was on a first date with
• 43:36
  this guy, and he was like a decent looking guy. He had a
• 43:38
  really nice car, I'll tell you that much. But they pulled up at
• 43:44
  the cheesecake factory and she starts streaming and she's just she's refusing to get out
• 43:52
  of the car. I'm not going into the cheesecake factory, right, And
• 43:57
  he's like, are you filming right now? She's like yeah, and he's
• 44:00
  like, okay, okay, what's what's the freaking deal. She's like,
• 44:04
  this is a cheesecake cut factory. You don't take me on a first date
• 44:07
  at the cheesecake factory. Look at me, Look at me. And she's
• 44:10
  like, she's middle of the road. She's probably like a six point five
• 44:15
  seven maybe right, okay, And she's she's like, you don't you don't
• 44:22
  take some as someone who looks like this right to the cheesecake factory. It's
• 44:30
  a chain, it's a chain restaurant. No, you take me to this
• 44:32
  other place, right. And then he's like, okay, you want to
• 44:37
  talk about it, And she's like, yeah, get back in the car
• 44:40
  and we'll talk about it. And he's he's like, well, here's where
• 44:46
  I made reservations. And it was like a nice, really fancy place,
• 44:51
  right, but you were an hour late, right. You made me sit
• 44:53
  in your lobby in your building and wait for an hour while you got ready,
• 45:00
  right, and uh. And then when when we I walked you out
• 45:06
  to the car, you you wouldn't take my arm. And she's like,
• 45:09
  well it was too soon for that. It's too soon for that, and
• 45:15
  and he's like and we'd missed our reservation. So now we're at the cheesecake
• 45:21
  factory. And and I'm like, the cheesecake factory. Isn't that like the
• 45:25
  keg Right, it's just like a nice place. I like the cheesecake factory.
• 45:31
  What else? Yeah, it's you know, it's like it's a step
• 45:36
  up from like red Lobster. It's it's a it's a chain, but it's
• 45:39
  like, yeah, it's not bad, it's it's expensive. And so I'm
• 45:46
  I'm just like okay, so and then she so I'm thinking because she's she's
• 45:53
  coming across as a very bad actress, okay in terms of her arguments,
• 46:00
  right, Like, so I'm thinking, is this staged? Is this stage?
• 46:04
  Right? I think it might be staged. And then he tells her,
• 46:09
  Okay, I'm just going to drive you home, and she's like,
• 46:14
  what you just that's it. You're just gonna drive me home. And he's
• 46:19
  like, yeah, I don't want to go on a date with you,
• 46:20
  Like you're not willing to cooperate your like I have rules too, right,
• 46:25
  and yeah, and then the last three seconds of that video before she stopped
• 46:34
  streaming, you could see she was crying and you could see she was trying
• 46:39
  not to like burst into tears. And I'm like, Okay, that's real,
• 46:45
  that's real. She was streaming it live. Yeah, she thought she
• 46:50
  had the upper hand. She was she was like a really shitty actress when
• 46:55
  she was trying to make her power play. And then he just put his
• 47:00
  foot down and said, well, yeah, no, I'm done, Like,
• 47:02
  see you later, don't expect to call. I'll drive you home.
• 47:07
  If you're if you're mid as a woman, you you are going to have
• 47:13
  to meet meet anybody here with halfway. Don't don't play games. Don't play
• 47:19
  game. Don't play games. We'll lose. Yeah, like don't. Yeah,
• 47:23
  should lose. Like honestly, it's it's you're the only control you're gonna
• 47:30
  have over a man. Quote unquote. Control is if you actually have an
• 47:35
  emotional resonance with him. Yeah, have that on the first date. You
• 47:38
  don't know, and she still home. I would have left her the bus
• 47:46
  stop. Yeah. Stop having sex, Okay, stop having sex with men
• 47:52
  who are significantly more attractive than you. Yeah. Yeah. But also but
• 47:58
  also the thing too is like don't overvalue yourself. I mean, like that
• 48:04
  that woman, she was a little bit a little overweight. Some guys like
• 48:07
  that, right, not all guys. You know, she had a pretty
• 48:13
  face and everything, but you know, like she wasn't anything like super special,
• 48:16
  and you know, and she's just like, you know, I I
• 48:22
  put on my makeup and dull myself up, and you take me to the
• 48:27
  cheesek. I can't go in there. I can't go into the cheesecake factory
• 48:30
  looking like this, right, And and he's just like okay, and yeah,
• 48:37
  no if it was me, If it was me, I would have
• 48:40
  been just get out the car, get out my fucking car and get yourself
• 48:45
  an uber home, right, Like he was at least nice enough, right,
• 48:51
  And he was. He was like middling attractive as well. He was
• 48:53
  about as attractive physically as her, looked like he had money, definitely had
• 49:00
  standards, right, And yeah, I mean, honestly, this could have
• 49:05
  played out a lot better. She could have been like, oh, cheesecake
• 49:07
  cafe, I can't believe you're indulging me on the first day, or she
• 49:12
  was defensive. Yeah, she she could have been like, oh this is
• 49:16
  nice, right, or you know, oh I was I was like really
• 49:22
  hoping for something a little nicer, right, And then you could say,
• 49:24
  well, I did have a reservation, but you were an hour late,
• 49:28
  right, and we missed it. And then she could have been like,
• 49:31
  oh, I'm so sorry. Right. Alternatively, I don't know. I'm
• 49:37
  lactose intolerant. Plus I'm also gluten intolerant. Plus like candy eggs, can
• 49:40
  we go to like a vegan? Well, the cheesecake factory doesn't just serve
• 49:45
  cheesecake, Alison. Yeah, I mean that that wouldn't be dinner. Yeah.
• 49:51
  Can we go to the air Fern Bar? Yeah? No, it
• 49:54
  would be the difference between I don't know if you've ever been to Colisseum Steak
• 49:59
  and Pizza here where I live. It's my favorite restaurant, really good steaks
• 50:05
  for about thirty percent cheaper than what you would pay at the keg Right,
• 50:12
  why does she put that video up continue here? Yeah? Well, I
• 50:16
  think she was streaming it because she was going to show how she had the
• 50:20
  upper hand. She's a sassy black lady who has the upper hand because she's
• 50:23
  just so hot and her cleavage was all out and like you know, and
• 50:28
  she was like flipping her grades just like It's not just the the audacity of
• 50:34
  being like, oh, this isn't good enough, which is yeah, is
• 50:37
  expensive. It's the audacity of of playing these kind of dominance games. I
• 50:43
  know he didn't take you to fucking Wendy's, right, Like, you know,
• 50:46
  you know what my first dates generally are we go to like uh,
• 50:53
  we would go to like a Denny's or a Boston Pizza or you know,
• 50:59
  like someplace like that, right that that's like very very middle range. And
• 51:05
  then I pay for my meal because you know, like I don't if I
• 51:10
  would, you know, like this is this is back when I was dating,
• 51:14
  Right, if I was gonna like let you into my pants. I
• 51:19
  don't want you to think that I'm doing it because you paid for dinner,
• 51:23
  right, I want you to think that I'm doing it because I want to
• 51:27
  let you into my pants. Right. And so it's just like no,
• 51:32
  it's it's I look at it, and I'm like, no, you're getting
• 51:38
  to know each other, Like why is why would you expect somebody to invest
• 51:45
  four hundred dollars on a first date. You don't even really know each other.
• 51:52
  You don't know whether you're gonna hit it off, right, Why should
• 51:57
  he invest four hundred fucking dollars just to get to know you and then realize
• 52:07
  that you don't like each other? Now, you go for coffee, or
• 52:10
  you go for a couple of beers, right, you each pay for your
• 52:15
  own stuff, right, so you can sit in a place that's not noisy,
• 52:21
  like a nightclub and get to know each other. Rights, that's how
• 52:24
  you do it, right, You don't You're not like Oh, you're gonna
• 52:30
  pay four hundred bucks up front, but you know what, it's not too
• 52:36
  soon for you to pay four hundred bucks for dinner for me, but it's
• 52:40
  too soon for me to take your arm while we're walking to your car.
• 52:46
  Which is shit that women did with men of brief acquaintance, right, with
• 52:52
  men that they were related to, friends, with men who were just like,
• 52:58
  you know, somebody who was like helping them out, you know,
• 53:02
  like men who were not off limits. Right, women would take their arm
• 53:08
  and walk up the street. Doesn't even freaking remotely suggest a romantic relationship.
• 53:16
  It's just what gentlemen do with It's what young twenty five year old men do
• 53:24
  in Eastern Europe when they're helping little old ladies across the street, offer the
• 53:30
  arm, you know, help them across the street. So it's like,
• 53:34
  I'm just like, it's too soon for that, but it's not too soon
• 53:39
  for him to spend three days pay to feed your ass. Really, And
• 53:47
  then she was so upset at the end. I was like, no,
• 53:51
  that that bit was real, and like she's trying to maintain her composure,
• 53:57
  but her eyes are tearing up, and then she just shuts up off the
• 54:00
  feet, and I'm like, oh that bitch, right, she's she's really
• 54:06
  not happy with herself and good learns a lesson. Yeah, I hope so,
• 54:14
  Like Jesus, Okay, I think pretty much all women should at least
• 54:19
  meet guys halfway. That's sort of my opinion, and it seems to end
• 54:23
  up in having a better situation overall, as far as I can tell,
• 54:28
  the women I've seen in long term relationships learn to meet their partner halfway.
• 54:32
  Yeah. No, it's like Paul. It's like Paul Elibs said when we
• 54:36
  were on with with Pearl Davis. Right, He's like, Okay, So
• 54:40
  I used to date a lot, and you know my rule was you'd better
• 54:45
  be reaching for your purse when the check comes, and because I'm not paying
• 54:50
  for your company. And yeah, there were a couple of times when I
• 54:54
  paid the check because all I was interested in was sex. And you know,
• 55:00
  women can complain and moan and whine all they want about how just because
• 55:05
  you bought me dinner doesn't mean I owe you sex. Okay, so pay
• 55:10
  for your own fucking dinner, all right? I can I just let me
• 55:19
  give Can I give my thoughts on this clip? So far? So Okay.
• 55:22
  First of all, I think because we did get a little bit on
• 55:25
  a tangent, I don't think Lauren was saying that video games are to blame
• 55:30
  or that they're a problem. She's actually said twice in that clip that it's
• 55:34
  not there's nothing wrong with you know, having hobbies and even having hobbies that
• 55:38
  are dominated by men. That's not what she's saying. I think what she's
• 55:45
  saying is is that because yeah, because we are spending more time online,
• 55:51
  and I think that the KOOF had something to do with it, but because
• 55:55
  of that, we're not meeting people in real life. Now, where I
• 55:58
  do take issue is she says that the internet has you know, created feminists
• 56:07
  and in cells, so she's creating two camps and she's trying to make a
• 56:10
  both sides argument, and I don't think it's valid. I'm sorry, Lauren.
• 56:15
  I like you a lot of the time, but you are absolutely wrong
• 56:17
  here. There's a big difference between like until you see in cells teaching classes
• 56:22
  in elementary school all the way up through college, and in the business world
• 56:29
  and in the entertainment industry and in the media and in our music and everywhere
• 56:32
  else, until you see that sentiment all over the place. There is no
• 56:37
  comparison. There is no comparison. And the in cells and the migtao and
• 56:44
  the men's rights activists and the pickup artists are all a product of feminism.
• 56:47
  Like you could say that they are reactionary, but they are and that's fine.
• 56:53
  But that's where the blame lies. And I think that I don't know,
• 56:58
  maybe, you know, I think that Laura and had a different upbringing
• 57:01
  than the average Western person, Western woman. Maybe she was exposed to feminism
• 57:07
  and all of that. I don't know, Like when she came to the
• 57:08
  States, I don't know. I mean, I know that they got feminism
• 57:12
  in China and everywhere else. It's not like she really avoided it was original.
• 57:17
  Yeah, she is. I think she still is. She said,
• 57:20
  oh no, she moved to Tennessee, but she wasn't like BC or something.
• 57:23
  Well, my point is she's been around it, but for whatever reason,
• 57:28
  to some degree, she's been resilient. Now I say to some degree
• 57:32
  because I said this on the show yesterday, and I've said this many times.
• 57:37
  Feminism is not exclusive to feminists. It is also in like so called
• 57:44
  conservatives are feminists. Basically most people, like almost everyone except for people like
• 57:50
  over here where we are are feminists to some extent, even the people who
• 57:53
  tell you like Andrew claven says he's anti feminist. And I know that,
• 57:58
  you know, we've had a thing about whether what that means, but he's
• 58:01
  not. Okay, he's basically like a second wave feminist. It's not it's
• 58:05
  not much better. And and that's just the reality. That's what that's what
• 58:09
  the default setting is for every person you meet, even if they tell you
• 58:14
  they're not a feminist, it's just not true. It's been an influence.
• 58:19
  But well, yeah, that's what it comes down to is what do they
• 58:22
  say when they see something? Who who do they come to the rescue of?
• 58:24
  Who do they put in the victim category? They do? They put
• 58:28
  women there first? They're all feminists. There is no like when you say,
• 58:31
  oh, the trad cuts are the real feminist. Yes they are.
• 58:34
  Yes, that's we know this. This is the reality. Everybody is feminist,
• 58:37
  with a very small percentage that can actually resist the temptation to cape for
• 58:42
  women. That's the reality. And Lauren is no exception. And that's okay
• 58:45
  because that's the It gives you a sense of like what we're up against is
• 58:52
  the reality that we're trying to shake something out of people that's been embedded in
• 58:58
  them. And it's been in our soul culture and our civilization and our society
• 59:01
  since before we were born. And that's the kind of damage we're trying to
• 59:05
  undo. So yeah, not easy, but again I have to be I
• 59:09
  have to basically say, like I hope that you keep moving down that road
• 59:13
  so that you see, you know, like what you even even your position
• 59:19
  as like non feminist or anti feminists or whatever, is actually still pretty feminist.
• 59:22
  You know, it's just not you know what I mean, Like you
• 59:25
  may draw the line somewhere different, but it's still it's still the same coming
• 59:30
  from the same route. Go ahead, Yes, Okay, there's just a
• 59:34
  few qualifications that I wanted to add to that when we talk about behaviors or
• 59:39
  beliefs. And I saw a recent tweet on Twitter. I think i'll encapsulate
• 59:45
  this when this this individual said, uh, they most Jewish people are amazing
• 59:52
  people. Most Muslims are amazing people. We need to remember that, you
• 59:58
  know, as we as we deal with the political situation that's around that we're
• 1:00:04
  dealing with now. And I responded with most men are amazing people, and
• 1:00:12
  that doesn't stop us from believing that the primary way that they treat women is
• 1:00:16
  oppressive. That's where I'm what I'm getting at there. I mean, we
• 1:00:22
  can recognize any group that we that we have to we have to accept that
• 1:00:27
  the average member of that group, we have to realize the average member of
• 1:00:30
  that group is probably a decent person. And yet when it comes to men,
• 1:00:35
  we are convinced that the sum total of their actions towards women are oppression.
• 1:00:42
  Yeah. No, And and you know, like that to riff off
• 1:00:45
  of Brian's point, you know when when you Okay Claven, he's he's basically
• 1:00:52
  a second wave feminist. Well, you know, I talked to a lot
• 1:00:54
  of conservatives who were like, you know, well, you know, something
• 1:00:59
  when wrong, something went totally crazy in the nineteen sixties. But the Suffragettes,
• 1:01:07
  you know, they had laudable goals and they were just about equality.
• 1:01:12
  No, they had a fucking streak of man hating a mile wide running right
• 1:01:17
  through the middle of their agenda. Okay, that is just that, that
• 1:01:22
  is just historical fact. You know, Like you know when when people say,
• 1:01:30
  you know, I saw like a little short Dan Bongino, right,
• 1:01:35
  like he's like, you know, I kept on screaming at people when it
• 1:01:39
  was like in twenty twenty that BLM, Black Lives Matter, right, they're
• 1:01:44
  fucking communists, don't give them money. They're fucking communist grifters. They're they're
• 1:01:50
  freaking Marxists right, Like they're not a good people, okay. And I
• 1:01:54
  took all kinds of heat from it. And he's like, what the fuck
• 1:01:59
  are people doing? Because you literally have Patrice Cooler's on camera when he posted
• 1:02:05
  it. He posted the clip where she's saying, well, we're trained community
• 1:02:09
  organizers, and we're trained Marxists, and you know we've we've been ideologically trained
• 1:02:19
  and teological h yeah, yea many times. Yeah. And he's like,
• 1:02:24
  they're literally telling you what they're about, Okay, They're literally telling you why
• 1:02:31
  they're doing what they're doing, and you are just intentionally not listening to them.
• 1:02:39
  The Declaration of Sentiments is like a massive diatribe. It's an indictment against
• 1:02:45
  men. It's a screed. That is its core tenet is men are bad
• 1:02:53
  and they do bad things to women, and therefore women are oppressed by men.
• 1:03:02
  Yeah but yeah, so no, I agree, And that's the thing
• 1:03:07
  that I think that Lauren gets wrong. She misses that. She thinks that
• 1:03:13
  she's you know a lot of people who and they're not just conservatives like you
• 1:03:16
  got these supposedly classical liberals. They think that, oh, if we can
• 1:03:21
  just go back to the nineties, like they had this thing in their head
• 1:03:23
  about this other time, and it's just that's the damage is so much more
• 1:03:30
  than that. The damage is so far beyond that. And it's not a
• 1:03:32
  both sides thing. It's just not like it's like they can't even see what
• 1:03:37
  women have chosen to do with our entire society because we have given them free
• 1:03:45
  reign to do it and no responsibility. Like til Deer has said, that
• 1:03:50
  essentially what our whole not just feminism, although that's the vehicle through which this
• 1:03:54
  is all happening. It's basically just given women the ability to do whatever they
• 1:04:00
  want and we all just have to bear the consequences. And it's just showing
• 1:04:03
  that that's what they want to do anyway. So they're just voting for whatever
• 1:04:08
  they want. They're just doing whatever they want. Nobody has I was holding
• 1:04:12
  to any standards. They don't care if it's self destructive. Eventually they'll be
• 1:04:15
  like sixty and they'll be like, what happened to my life? And why
• 1:04:17
  didn't somebody stop me? It reminds me of, you know, the the
• 1:04:21
  video of the woman who said she was like a TikTok video and she was
• 1:04:26
  talking about this guy that she went on a date with or had been with,
• 1:04:29
  and she decided to dump him because she didn't think he was husband material
• 1:04:32
  and she was looking for the husband vibe or whatever, and he just accepted
• 1:04:36
  her decline and walked away, and she was like, why didn't he fight
• 1:04:40
  me? Why didn't he fight with me to get me back? Why didn't
• 1:04:43
  he try? Why don't you know? Because we assume that you're adults and
• 1:04:48
  that you can make decisions, and now that you can, so it's like,
• 1:04:53
  do you want men to oppress you? Because I feel like me,
• 1:04:57
  yeah, I thought that's right. It's like, do you want men in
• 1:05:00
  charge? Because they'll take it. You just have to give it to them.
• 1:05:04
  But like, this is what we're doing. We're just letting women do
• 1:05:08
  whatever they want, and they're doing self destructive, short sighted, stupid shit,
• 1:05:12
  and then like later they're going to look back and be like, what
• 1:05:14
  have I done? Why didn't men stop me? And then men will be
• 1:05:15
  in the blame for that, and then for that. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:05:21
  I have to go, I have to step away for about ten minutes.
• 1:05:26
  All right, okay, all right, in ten minutes, Okay. I
• 1:05:30
  just want to point out that people are generally as good as the external standards
• 1:05:34
  they are held to. If women are not being held to any external standard,
• 1:05:39
  that is, any kind of moral or ethical system, if we believe
• 1:05:43
  that every moral and ethical system that you could possibly external system. So how
• 1:05:47
  do women treatment? Are they judged by how they treat men? No,
• 1:05:53
  they're they're like starting from socially, we blame men for how women treat them,
• 1:06:00
  like did you what did you do to make her do that to you?
• 1:06:04
  You know, we blame male victims of female domestic violence, starting from
• 1:06:12
  just the social situation where people will watch a woman wail on a man and
• 1:06:16
  again be like, well, what did he do to deserve it? All
• 1:06:19
  the way up to how the police respond, which is that a man who's
• 1:06:26
  who's physically abused by his wife, and then we won't even get into sexual
• 1:06:30
  abuse because that's almost a non non starter. But what man who is physically
• 1:06:33
  abused by his wife is more likely to be arrested than the woman who's abusing
• 1:06:39
  him. Okay, So we do not hold women accountable for how they treat
• 1:06:44
  men. They have no external standard as women. Where is an external standard
• 1:06:47
  going to come form for women except for men? And we absolutely do not
• 1:06:51
  hold women accountable for their behavior towards men period. That I mean, feminists
• 1:06:58
  will say, ah, but we do. No, that we don't.
• 1:07:00
  And you can see that in the statistics and how the justice system treats women
• 1:07:06
  who are violent towards men, how the police treat women who are violent towards
• 1:07:11
  men, how society treats women who are violent towards men, all kinds of
• 1:07:15
  violence, emotional violence, physical violence, sexual violence. It's a non starter.
• 1:07:19
  It's not an issue. And it's like we give women pass after pass
• 1:07:25
  after pass, and people tend to rise to the level that they're held to.
• 1:07:29
  If women are not held to any external standard of expectation of behavior,
• 1:07:33
  they won't rise to the standard they're not held to. Okay, So when
• 1:07:39
  we say that women are there is nothing holding them to account. There isn't
• 1:07:44
  there's nothing legitimate holding them to account. I don't give a crap about how
• 1:07:48
  fat women get how like whether or not they want to have careers or not
• 1:07:56
  have children, or have children. I'm not pro life, okay, you
• 1:08:00
  know I am. I'm okay with the decisions that women make about their lives,
• 1:08:06
  but I'm not okay with women not being held to a standard of accountability
• 1:08:11
  for those decisions and their effect on the men and children in their wife and
• 1:08:15
  the other women in their lives period. Okay. I don't care what choice
• 1:08:20
  women make as long as they are accountable to the people that are affected by
• 1:08:25
  it. Okay, Yeah, all right, I got some superchows and a
• 1:08:30
  super chat, so I'll go ahead and look at those really quick and then
• 1:08:35
  we will continue. So thank you guys so much for feeding us, giving
• 1:08:42
  badger chand the tip. I guess, and here we go. Richard Bierre
• 1:08:45
  gives us five dollars and says, I read an article some time ago about
• 1:08:48
  a particular tribe where the men had to prove their worth as partners with their
• 1:08:53
  skills in knitting this particular type of hat, using cactus needles to knit with
• 1:08:58
  the best candidates knit a cant that is water tight and can be used to
• 1:09:01
  transport water without any leaking or loss. I guess there was more. I
• 1:09:06
  assume any or loss. Well, anyway, thank you for that. Xarenx
• 1:09:14
  gives us five dollars and says answer slowly but surely, and especially given the
• 1:09:20
  Starbucks secret message story, we're adopting light levels of sharia. Question, what
• 1:09:26
  is irony? Wager five dollars. Yes, very, very true. And
• 1:09:32
  then I got one for Richard Bierre for five bucks, and he says,
• 1:09:38
  I've come to agree somewhat with those who dislike viewing waves of feminism. I
• 1:09:42
  think regarding Andrew Claven as a second wave feminist is wrong. Oh did I
• 1:09:47
  say, Richard, I'm sorry, I got them mixed up. Okay,
• 1:09:51
  Richard Bierre had the last one. This one is Zarenx. I apologize.
• 1:09:56
  I think regarding Andrew Claven as a second wave feminist is wrong. Mona Sharon
• 1:10:00
  and her Aspen Institute talk on feminism. It's on YouTube sets second wave is
• 1:10:03
  anti family within the first five minutes of the video Claiman is not anti family,
• 1:10:08
  though, so it doesn't make sense to put him in that box as
• 1:10:10
  far as I'm concerned, Well, I think that the sixties feminists may have
• 1:10:15
  been anti family as the extreme end of that, and I'm sure that Mona
• 1:10:21
  Sharon is right about that as their ultimate like, you know, their their
• 1:10:27
  most radical position. But I think the other stuff, like you know,
• 1:10:31
  women entering the workforce or whatever it is they were fighting for in the sixties,
• 1:10:34
  outside of that and the sort of sex positive stuff, I don't think
• 1:10:38
  that he's really that opposed to it. I think that he'll because I watched
• 1:10:42
  a lot of Claven And the thing is too, is that when I see
• 1:10:47
  videos of him where he's responding to videos of feminist women saying the most hateful,
• 1:10:56
  misindert shit, and he pities them. He's like, oh, the
• 1:11:00
  those poor girls, Like it's like somehow they didn't decide this. They're adults,
• 1:11:03
  okay, and so like that that bothers me because he will, like,
• 1:11:09
  you know, shit on red pill guys. I won't name any names
• 1:11:12
  because I don't want to trigger anybody in the chat, but he he'll he'll
• 1:11:15
  shame those guys with the quickness, but he won't hold women to the same
• 1:11:18
  standards. And it's like, well, if you're not gonna do that,
• 1:11:21
  then you're not getting anything done. The truth is is that men are ready
• 1:11:26
  to They're ready and willing, and they've been willing to to try to earn
• 1:11:32
  a woman's love. That's all they want is they want her love, right,
• 1:11:36
  that's what most men want. But women have not been asked to step
• 1:11:42
  up and earn a man's respect, and so they're just doing whatever they want.
• 1:11:45
  And that's why you get like, you know, women that just get
• 1:11:48
  run through by every dude under the sun, and they still demand the guy
• 1:11:51
  with six figures, a six pack, you know, six feet tall,
• 1:11:56
  et cetera. And they want all of that to be forgotten. I mean,
• 1:12:00
  it was like the video. I don't know if you remember. Well,
• 1:12:01
  I don't want to get into the body count thing, but I'm saying
• 1:12:04
  it's there. There is one standard that men are willing to meet. They
• 1:12:10
  but they want to know that it has meaning to it and they want that.
• 1:12:14
  Like you could say that men are walking away and all that, but
• 1:12:15
  they're not happy about it. It's not their ideal situation. Their ideal situation
• 1:12:20
  is to is to earn the love of a woman, and a woman should
• 1:12:25
  want to earn the respect of a man because they already get his love.
• 1:12:30
  Right, So I think that, uh, that's what I mean when I
• 1:12:34
  say that Claven is basically a second waiver. I mean, in my opinion,
• 1:12:39
  and that's not just him. I mean, I've seen this, like
• 1:12:42
  you guys have seen on Twitter that Pearl's been well. I don't know if
• 1:12:45
  she has been lately, but she was fighting with a daily wire a lot
• 1:12:47
  because and and they're like pushing back really hard, right, And I think
• 1:12:51
  there's more to it than that, than than what we're seeing. But I
• 1:12:55
  think that she is right to do that they should be helped, that they
• 1:13:00
  held their feet to the fire. And I like that Lauren Chen is even
• 1:13:02
  exploring this because she could just join in with those guys and just tell men
• 1:13:06
  to men up. But she knows it's not working. And but what she
• 1:13:10
  doesn't know, No, it's not. But what she does not know or
• 1:13:14
  not seem to grasp, is that it's not. It's not because of or
• 1:13:19
  in you know, because of men. It's not because of men. It's
• 1:13:24
  because of women and their standards. That's all it is. It's just the
• 1:13:29
  truth, like they you know, and why why do they have those stands?
• 1:13:31
  But because we've told them that they're entitled to everything. We've told them
• 1:13:36
  that since they were born. So what do you expect a girl turned sixteen?
• 1:13:41
  She thinks it doesn't matter what she actually looks like. She thinks she's
• 1:13:44
  a ten. You've seen that where women are asked to rate themselves and they
• 1:13:46
  all rate themselves ten, and they read each other ten because the sisterhood,
• 1:13:50
  they have to support each other, and no one is better than anyone else.
• 1:13:54
  This is this is not like play acting. This is literally what they
• 1:13:58
  believe. And so that means men, they're not going to measure up,
• 1:14:02
  you know what, I know, I'm gonna take this somewey completely different than
• 1:14:04
  body count and looks. Women think things like women are more empathetic than men
• 1:14:12
  because men don't have emotions. And I tweeted that out and I got some
• 1:14:15
  people get really upset. Apparently that was a little too subtle. I thought
• 1:14:20
  yoxy moron was obvious, but apparently it was a little too subtle. And
• 1:14:27
  but they think things like that, and they think that they're more moral while
• 1:14:30
  not being held to any kind of standard in how they treat the opposite sex
• 1:14:33
  whereas men are they are legally and socially. I mean, look at this,
• 1:14:39
  I mean there are women who want men to approach, so men are
• 1:14:43
  being lambasted for not approaching, even though there's a whole bunch of other women
• 1:14:47
  who are incredibly vocal who say that men approaching them in public is like they
• 1:14:51
  get post traumatic stress syndrome from it, right, you know, and they
• 1:14:56
  need to have all these laws and protections against being approached by men in public
• 1:15:00
  and to stop it, okay, And you know you at any point do
• 1:15:05
  we stop and say, well, what is how is this being experienced by
• 1:15:09
  men? At what point do women think, you know, well, maybe
• 1:15:13
  maybe what I want out of men isn't what's important here, but how men
• 1:15:17
  are being treated by women, how they're being expected to do X and not
• 1:15:23
  X at the same time by groups of women, How they're being lambasted and
• 1:15:28
  blamed and shamed or not being able to do X and not X and please
• 1:15:32
  every woman by reading her mind, you know. And it's like, at
• 1:15:35
  some point you got to stop. You're not better than men, you're not
• 1:15:40
  more moral than men because you're a woman. In fact, is quite likely
• 1:15:43
  that you're less because you aren't held to a standard of behavior towards the opposite
• 1:15:47
  sex the way men are, and you aren't. You aren't socially and you
• 1:15:51
  aren't legally. People will say, oh yeah, women are held and I'm
• 1:15:57
  like, they only ever seem to allude to these so called standards that women
• 1:16:00
  are held to when they're justifying why women don't have to abide by them,
• 1:16:05
  which has to be the most twisted, ridiculous logic. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:16:10
  women are totally expected to care about men's emotions. That's why they don't have
• 1:16:14
  They shouldn't have to care about them at all. Yeah, And it's like
• 1:16:15
  that's the only time I really see that they allusion to any kind of standard
• 1:16:20
  that women should be held to. But yeah, is that is when people
• 1:16:27
  are decrying that women are held to any standard. Well, that's not how
• 1:16:30
  it works, sister. Yeah, you have to point to me to a
• 1:16:33
  standard which women have to step up and behave in an ethical, moral,
• 1:16:40
  gracious, and compassionate way to Millward's men. They have to be they have
• 1:16:45
  to be their brother's keeper too. Where is that standard? Yeah, and
• 1:16:49
  where is it alluded to in a way that women don't get a get out
• 1:16:54
  of jail free card where they are judged by it And nobody says, oh,
• 1:16:58
  because it exists, means that women should shouldn't have to be held to
• 1:17:00
  it, which is the most did you see that logic? Because women are
• 1:17:03
  held to a standard of behavior you shouldn't have to abide by by all.
• 1:17:10
  That's the only time I hear about that. So it doesn't exist, It
• 1:17:14
  doesn't functionally exist. They should be able to hate men, and that you
• 1:17:18
  can complain about it. Yes, like that, they shouldn't have to judge
• 1:17:24
  themselves by any other behavior towards men at all, whatsoever. That's what I
• 1:17:28
  want to call out. And then women will many women will turn around and
• 1:17:30
  say, well, women are just better people. No, you're not.
• 1:17:33
  You're as good as the standard that you're held to. You know, women
• 1:17:38
  are more more or more empathetic people. You're as good as how much you
• 1:17:44
  understand and respect the views of people who are not like you. Men,
• 1:17:48
  Okay, you're not empathetic if you have nothing to be empathetic towards. All,
• 1:17:54
  right, get that idea. So it's that whole idea, not just
• 1:17:57
  that women think that they're tends, or that women think that they can have
• 1:18:01
  as much sex with with more attractive men than they are and then still be
• 1:18:06
  marriage material. You know, would they accept the reverse? But regardless,
• 1:18:12
  it's not that that really concerns me. What really concerns me is this belief
• 1:18:15
  that women have that they're moral, more more moral than men innately when look
• 1:18:21
  at the freaking the gender roles, there is such a thing as not being
• 1:18:27
  a real man. How are you not a real man? You haven't served
• 1:18:30
  and protected the people around you enough? How are you not a real woman
• 1:18:33
  while you have a penis? Like? This is? This is? This
• 1:18:38
  is the difference, you know, the and again, people rise to the
• 1:18:43
  standard they're held to. If women are not held to a standard of how
• 1:18:45
  they treat men, they're not morally better, probably not even morally equivalent.
• 1:18:53
  Okay, And that's what infuriates me. It's not women thinking that they're at
• 1:18:58
  ten. It's women thinking that there are freaking mothers that they're better people.
• 1:19:03
  You're not better people, right, And that the fact that you think you're
• 1:19:09
  better people without any legitimate expectation, that you judge yourself by how you treat
• 1:19:15
  men, means you're worse people. Okay. Like, there is no society
• 1:19:21
  where men are not judged by how well they protect women, how well they
• 1:19:26
  provide for women, not even the dreaded Muslim societies that everybody like, we're
• 1:19:32
  supposed to be non racist, and yet we think Muslim men are the most
• 1:19:34
  horrible men that ever walk the face of the earth. Okay, all right,
• 1:19:40
  No, actually they still have the same attitude of protection and provision right
• 1:19:45
  as any other men in any other society. Men judge themselves by the safety
• 1:19:50
  of their family and by how well their family eats. And this is almost
• 1:19:57
  this is universal unless you're talking about an extremely mate cherchle society in which the
• 1:20:00
  men have absolutely nothing to do, like all right, so this is this
• 1:20:06
  is Oh, I'm just gonna say, because I got another super child that
• 1:20:10
  I skipped, and then I have super chats and there might be something else.
• 1:20:14
  But I'm sorry, Richard, I skipped yours from before. But I'm
• 1:20:18
  gonna get it right and now. So Richard Pierre gives us five dollars and
• 1:20:24
  says she live streamed the interaction that she was likely thinking that she is another
• 1:20:28
  Shira seven to eleven and was putting him on blast to humiliate him, but
• 1:20:32
  not giving her the sprinkle sprinkle that she thought that she deserved, and was
• 1:20:36
  already looking the level up. I have heard that there is a second part
• 1:20:40
  to that video, and he wants me to play this and Karen is back,
• 1:20:47
  and then I got some super chats he I don't know what. Elson
• 1:20:55
  was ranting for about ten minutes, I got I got another one from who
• 1:21:01
  is this ZARANX for five bucks and he says, I get that the thing
• 1:21:05
  is the anti family bit jives with Charles Foyer's sentiment of marriage as a prison
• 1:21:11
  for women. Remember that Fourier died in eighteen thirty seven, roughly eleven years
• 1:21:15
  before the eighteen forty eight Declaration of Sentiments. I agree that there were other
• 1:21:18
  bits in there, but that just makes feminism a cobble together hodgepodge of whatever
• 1:21:24
  they can make work and confuse the masses as they nihilistically lance bits and pieces
• 1:21:28
  of and off society as they've been doing. So, I'm willing to say
• 1:21:31
  Claven like too Many is an unwitting accomplice to feminism's machinesis yeah, I'm basically
• 1:21:36
  saying that too, although I will say that the anti family stuff it goes.
• 1:21:42
  I've been reading this book Rachel Wilson's a Cult Feminism, and she goes
• 1:21:46
  into the history of this and even before it was called feminism, that it
• 1:21:50
  goes under other names and it's wailed or like you know, pre Victorian,
• 1:21:57
  and that very interesting stuff. Again, I think if you think about it,
• 1:22:01
  if these ideas have been taking roots slowly over the course of hundreds of
• 1:22:05
  years, it's kind of hard to shake it loose, you know, it's
• 1:22:10
  kind of hard to shake it loose. Well, well, and I think
• 1:22:13
  I think it's not just a matter of the ideas having taken roots slowly over
• 1:22:16
  hundreds of years. I think that I think that the ideas themselves prey upon
• 1:22:20
  a vulnerability and in people's inborn psyches. Yes, and it works because it's
• 1:22:28
  something that we're prone. We're sort of a lot of protective vulnerable to.
• 1:22:31
  Yeah. Yeah, we're already prone to it. So it's like, you
• 1:22:35
  know, the the idea that women do need to be protected and provided for,
• 1:22:46
  children need to be protected and provided for, and women are essentially the
• 1:22:51
  mother child diad. They're not just women, they are women and children.
• 1:22:58
  And I mean, like you just look at it like the Israeli conflict right
• 1:23:01
  now, you oh, women and children, women and children, right And
• 1:23:05
  it's like they don't say women, children and non combatant men. They say,
• 1:23:10
  oh, women and children. I think I have heard that, which
• 1:23:13
  is which is actually surprising change. They were actually saying some civilian men in
• 1:23:18
  some places. Yeah, it's it's getting a little bit better. But you
• 1:23:23
  know, like you literally have you know, innocent women and children, Innocent
• 1:23:28
  women and children, and you know like that that's kind of the refrain.
• 1:23:32
  That's what really tugs our heartstrings and makes us feel sympathy, makes us feel
• 1:23:38
  like that these people are victims. It's because they're women and children. And
• 1:23:42
  you can victimize women and children, you can't really victimize men because the message
• 1:23:46
  for if you think about it, when they say innocent women and children,
• 1:23:50
  yeah, the message is for men. Is the messages for men to go
• 1:23:55
  out and tell about our society's what's different and toxic. But you know,
• 1:24:00
  like I guess it had its function in the day, is that we deny
• 1:24:05
  this. It's not just that we because other societies recognize the power. Yeah,
• 1:24:10
  they expect it, but they recognize it. Go back in literature,
• 1:24:15
  you read things like Gone with the wind Or of Mice and Men, and
• 1:24:20
  you can they acknowledge openly the power that women have socially. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:24:27
  no, and you acknowledge the fact that, yes, you have these
• 1:24:30
  expectations of men to go out and protect and preserve women and children, right,
• 1:24:36
  but you also recognize that that's what they're doing. They're not like,
• 1:24:45
  oh, men are just toxic. Yeah, we don't. In the past,
• 1:24:49
  we actually recognize this impulse in the social power of women, and we
• 1:24:56
  recognize that men wanted to protect and provide for women, that this is something
• 1:25:00
  innate, instead of seeing their primary effect of their actions towards women being you
• 1:25:06
  know, all men are awesome, but they're there are some total of their
• 1:25:10
  actions towards women as oppression kind of thing, is what I was saying earlier.
• 1:25:15
  Yes, we believe this, this absolute lie about human nature. So
• 1:25:18
  it's it's more than we just have this situation. It's that we've we have
• 1:25:24
  lied to ourselves about our nature and so we've lied to ourselves about the social
• 1:25:30
  power of women, and we've lied to ourselves about the nature of men.
• 1:25:35
  And like, it's the lie that's going to destroy us, Yes, because
• 1:25:42
  we we've constructed this situation where people are not para bonding anymore. Well,
• 1:25:47
  it's a lied about men and women in the relationship between them, you know,
• 1:25:51
  it's it's it's it's a complex of lies because you know, there are
• 1:25:57
  the lies of omission that we have now, which is, you know,
• 1:26:00
  we don't tell men, or we're not supposed to tell men that women can
• 1:26:08
  sometimes be bad. Right, that's a lie of omission. We're not allowed
• 1:26:15
  to tell anyone that men can sometimes be good. That's a lie of omission.
• 1:26:19
  And we basically say women are always deserving of social investment, societal investment.
• 1:26:29
  That's not true. That's an overt lie. And then you have men
• 1:26:33
  deserve nothing because they're horrible people. That's another overt lie. Right, So
• 1:26:39
  you have this complex of lies where it's basically just saying women are always good
• 1:26:45
  and they always deserve everything, and men are, at least in the main
• 1:26:51
  bad. They're only ever conditionally good temporarily, you know, as long is
• 1:27:00
  they're acting for serving women's benefit. But otherwise they're just a net a net.
• 1:27:10
  And the people are so negative on society, they're so stuck in these
• 1:27:14
  these very ossified gender roles. Oh yeah, and they can't even squidge an
• 1:27:18
  inch out of them. And then it's so ironic because these are the same
• 1:27:21
  people are like, oh, we question gender roles now you don't. Yeah,
• 1:27:25
  no, well not the fundamental ones. I mean, like they basically
• 1:27:30
  said, oh, the gender roles used to be that women stayed at home,
• 1:27:34
  men only made babies and and men went out and worked. And it's
• 1:27:40
  like, no, that's actually not how things worked for thousands of years.
• 1:27:45
  Yeah, no, women actually were economically productive, right, They produced resources
• 1:27:51
  just like men did. And yeah, they also had the added benefit or
• 1:27:58
  the added role of there's another lie of producing children. So there's another lie,
• 1:28:03
  right, women weren't allowed to work. Yeah, no, women always
• 1:28:06
  worked. Yeah, they always worked. I mean they always had their own
• 1:28:10
  thing, and that actually is a lie that hides the the humiliation of having
• 1:28:15
  lost that thing for women. Oh yeah, okay. But the other thing
• 1:28:19
  I wanted to point out is when we say women and children, innocent women
• 1:28:23
  and children. We probably should get a little bit further into this video after
• 1:28:26
  this, but when we say who are we directing this message to, we're
• 1:28:30
  directing it towards men. But now some Yeah, but now our society wants
• 1:28:36
  to both have both the role women occupy the role of innocent victim and also
• 1:28:43
  hero capable of overcoming the villain that's victimizing her innocence. Yeah, but never,
• 1:28:48
  never, never villain you can. And this is the thing, like,
• 1:28:51
  because because four hundred years ago there were villainous women, there were wicked
• 1:28:58
  women. You know you could we talk about women who were wicked, women
• 1:29:02
  who were bad. Now you can't. You're not allowed to right, You're
• 1:29:09
  not allowed to bad mouth Jada Pinkett Smith. You just give her a multimillion
• 1:29:13
  dollar book deal and send her on a tour continuously victimizing the man that is
• 1:29:20
  caught in her Thrall, all right, Brad, I got some super chats.
• 1:29:29
  Oh boy, I'm gonna go ahead and read those. I know,
• 1:29:31
  I don't. I don't know if there's questions, but I should read them.
• 1:29:34
  Albert Nata Retro gives is five dollars Canadian. Oh, I have a
• 1:29:36
  new tool, Eric, and you used to just look at them, and
• 1:29:41
  says Penelope pussy Cat, Lola Bunny, Melissa Duck, and Petunia Pig have
• 1:29:45
  all made complaints against Pepele Pew. The me tune movement is upon us.
• 1:29:50
  Yeah, it's a joke, thank you, And then he gives us another
• 1:29:55
  five dollars Canadian and says, happy to say. I heard a story about
• 1:29:58
  a guy who stabbed himself in the hand, and they interrogated him and his
• 1:30:01
  wife cause they thought he was abused. So they actually considered the possibility that
• 1:30:08
  she might have done that. That's that's crazy. And then Albatross gives us
• 1:30:14
  two dollars and says said this before women are rewarded for bad behavior. Yeah,
• 1:30:18
  well that's what Thomas Soule said. If you incentivize bad behavior, you're
• 1:30:23
  going to get more bad behavior. What. Okay, so let's do more
• 1:30:28
  of Lauren Chen's video. Thanks guys for all of the support. Again,
• 1:30:32
  that is feed the badger dot Com forward slash just a tip if you want
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  or you can send us a rumble rant shout out to the rumble gang.
• 1:30:43
  Okay, let's continue. No, a situation like that to those of
• 1:30:45
  us who are older, like where you just don't interact with the opposite sex,
• 1:30:49
  may seem far fetched or unrealistic, but I think we would be shocked
• 1:30:53
  by how many young people are living existences that kind of fit that description.
• 1:30:57
  But that brings us to some more findings from dat site. It also explains
• 1:31:00
  that for men who don't approach women, these men are significantly more risk averse
• 1:31:03
  than those men who do approach women, and as date site or Alexander notes,
• 1:31:08
  this is actually a white pill. It isn't the powerful society at large
• 1:31:11
  that explain young male singletom. It's much more mundane. Young men are simply
• 1:31:15
  not trying. Okay, yeah, but why the risk that you're increasing the
• 1:31:23
  risk and you're finding that the men who are risk averse are not are opting
• 1:31:27
  out. But that's their fault. No, it's not okay, you have
• 1:31:31
  to accommodate all men, right, if you want this to work, you
• 1:31:38
  have to accommodate the widest possible array of men, including the risk adverse.
• 1:31:45
  I don't even understand what this is supposed to like, this is oh my
• 1:31:46
  god, this is a revelation. We've increased the risks of approaching women and
• 1:31:51
  it's the risk a verse men who have stopped. Well, that's their fault.
• 1:31:57
  Dude. Do you know how much you have to work, you have
• 1:32:00
  to do overcome anxiety. Well here's another here's another thing. This is only
• 1:32:06
  looking at the male half of the population. What about the women? Like,
• 1:32:12
  what what's the data for that? Now there is a guy, he
• 1:32:15
  has a YouTube channel. I think he's Australian. He goes on college campuses
• 1:32:20
  and he asks women to rate men and he shows him pictures of men.
• 1:32:26
  And these guys are not ugly. They're like, you know, middle of
• 1:32:30
  the ground. Some of them are even kind of handsome. Some of them
• 1:32:32
  are our exceptional, like they could be models or something like that. The
• 1:32:38
  women rated them consistently three or less. Yeah, three or less, So
• 1:32:45
  there's a there's another side to this, Lauren, that you're not looking at
• 1:32:48
  there now. Of course, no one has the courage to actually like conduct
• 1:32:54
  a study looking at women's tastes. This is why we're stuck with things like
• 1:32:59
  you know, the the was it the plenty of fish or okay, cube
• 1:33:02
  it stuff and I think there's the one where you swipe tender. There's you
• 1:33:08
  know, some of that. But like then, of course you bring that
• 1:33:11
  up and people like Lauren Southern will say, oh, well, you know
• 1:33:14
  that's you. You're just you're just selling you're just selling doom porn. That's
• 1:33:17
  that's a different place. But no one's doing a study on that, no
• 1:33:20
  one, So like, what are we supposed to do? And will they?
• 1:33:24
  I mean, can you really trust a college to conduct a study on
• 1:33:28
  women's sexual preferences or their taste in men and their standards? Considering that colleges
• 1:33:32
  are all run by feminists, they're not going to information. The dark triad
• 1:33:39
  traits translate to more more sexual partners, more interest in women, like like,
• 1:33:46
  we know what's going on. But here's the other thing. Why does
• 1:33:50
  Alexander think that dimensions of personality are so maliable? Yeah? No, and
• 1:33:59
  and all. So this idea that you know, eighty percent of men on
• 1:34:05
  ok Cupid were rated by women on okay Cupid as less than average in attractiveness,
• 1:34:11
  right, and that's going by profiles. That's not just going by pictures,
• 1:34:15
  that's going by the profiles. Right. So it's the six sixty six
• 1:34:18
  conundrum, right. You know, six feet six inches and six figures,
• 1:34:25
  right, that's what women want. And so anything less than six six six
• 1:34:30
  is you know, subpar, it's below average. So you have that that
• 1:34:38
  problem you have. You have the problem of women just not like the entitled
• 1:34:44
  woman who just was not going to go into the cheesecake factory, right because
• 1:34:50
  she's just like, I am so super hot even though she was basically a
• 1:34:56
  six point five, Right, I am just I'm too high quality for this
• 1:35:01
  shitty place. Right. So you have you have this this situation where women's
• 1:35:09
  expectations are like through the roof. And then they're also being artificially priced out
• 1:35:17
  of the market, right because they can earn enough to you know, if
• 1:35:24
  I had to, I wouldn't have to settle for, you know, a
• 1:35:28
  man. I could settle for a sperm donor, right, like if I
• 1:35:35
  wanted to, you know, if it came down to that, right,
• 1:35:39
  and I'm just gonna put it off and put it off and put it off,
• 1:35:41
  and put it off and put it off and put it off. Right,
• 1:35:45
  because oh, the men in my age bracket when I'm in my twenties,
• 1:35:49
  like they're all struggling students, they're all you know, like building up
• 1:35:56
  there. You know, Like I don't have to settle for a man with
• 1:36:00
  potential, Right, I can have a man with all of it, Right,
• 1:36:06
  I can have a Brad Pitt and you have. We really need to
• 1:36:11
  actually also look at women's propensity to idealize fashion fashion trends. Right. Men
• 1:36:19
  don't change their wardrobes every season, they just don't, right, women do.
• 1:36:26
  Right. They want all the newest colors, they want all the newest
• 1:36:30
  styles, they want all the newest everything, right, and all the latest
• 1:36:36
  makeup and fingernail and you know, and hair trends and all of that.
• 1:36:43
  Right, they want to keep up, keep up with the freaking times.
• 1:36:47
  Right, Well, what is feeding that, right, Because it's not like
• 1:36:55
  women are looking at the women around them on the street either, Right,
• 1:37:00
  They're looking at the women in the fashion magazines, they're looking at the women
• 1:37:04
  on you know, on the online ads, they're looking at the female celebrities,
• 1:37:11
  right. Well, they're also looking at the men in that space,
• 1:37:14
  right, and they're like, well, I want something up to date.
• 1:37:19
  I want something up to date. I want something that's in fashion now,
• 1:37:25
  right. And if that's Paul Rudd, or if that's Chris Pratt, or
• 1:37:30
  if that's Brad Pitt, or if if that's you know, Antonio Banjerras.
• 1:37:39
  I remember when it was Zach Gallifanakis. When The Hangover came out, the
• 1:37:45
  women, like the women on dating sites wanted a man like that. It
• 1:37:48
  was only because they saw the movie. Yeah, Like they are so fashion
• 1:37:55
  oriented, right that they they just like, oh my god, I can't
• 1:37:59
  wear the thing that I wore last year because it's so last year. Well,
• 1:38:02
  yeah, that's what they that's what they're looking for in men too,
• 1:38:06
  And it's like, you know, like not everybody can be like that frickin'
• 1:38:13
  dude or sorry, clothes horse. Not everybody can be a clothes horse,
• 1:38:17
  well not every not every man can live up to the style at the time.
• 1:38:24
  I mean, like my man, right, I'm sure if he really
• 1:38:28
  wanted to, he could get like super fit. He could be like a
• 1:38:31
  you know, he could be a total barrel chested slav with like very low
• 1:38:36
  body fat, super muscular, right all that He's never not gonna be a
• 1:38:45
  Ukrainian peasant with an extra large head, right, yeah, he's not ever
• 1:38:50
  gonna be that with short arms, short legs and an extra large head.
• 1:38:56
  He's you know, and he's got beautiful eyes, and he's got beautiful qualities.
• 1:39:00
  He's very strong and uh and he can pin me down, ride me
• 1:39:06
  hard, and put me away wet if you get me, if you get
• 1:39:11
  what I mean. But but right he's he's never going to be able to
• 1:39:18
  like just oh, I'll just change my entire body structure to compensate for women's
• 1:39:28
  shifting fickled tastes, you know, because right now it's Ryan Reynolds who's who's
• 1:39:36
  popular among the women, whereas it used to be Russell Crowe. Right,
• 1:39:44
  and and I'm just like, what What the fuck? What the like?
• 1:39:46
  How do men even navigate this? Okay, let me point let me let
• 1:39:53
  me explain where Alexander is coming from. He thinks because he's identified a an
• 1:39:59
  aspect of per personality, which as a psychologist, I'm not exactly sure why
• 1:40:02
  he thinks it's so maliable, but whatever, he thinks that he because he's
• 1:40:08
  identified an aspect of men's personality, that this is a white pill, because
• 1:40:12
  men can then change that fundamental aspect of their personality and rise to the occasion
• 1:40:18
  right of being able. Why is it that more risk risk phobic men are
• 1:40:23
  not taking the risk because the risk has increased. So what he's saying is,
• 1:40:29
  well, no, we don't have to worry about the fact that the
• 1:40:30
  risk has increased. Yeah, and there is no way just men just being
• 1:40:38
  the fundamental part of your personality that may actually be rooted in your genetics.
• 1:40:42
  Go do that, men, Go genetically re engineer yourself, do some little
• 1:40:45
  psychological tinkering, like I don't know, a Westworld. You just change some
• 1:40:49
  of your personality factors. Just did put some new programming anywhere, and guess
• 1:40:57
  this. What will happen is the risk will become greater because this is what's
• 1:41:00
  happening. We are creating a situation that selects for dark triad men. Okay,
• 1:41:06
  they're the ones who are approaching women. There are the ones who are
• 1:41:10
  more likely to get into relationships with women, probably even before all this shit
• 1:41:13
  happened, but now even more so because they have no risk aversion whatsoever,
• 1:41:18
  none whatsoever, no risk for her, no risk for himself. Okay,
• 1:41:23
  and that more and more these men are dominating the dating sphere. More and
• 1:41:29
  more women are having horrible experiences with these men. So we're increasing the risks
• 1:41:32
  of men approaching you see what I'm saying to try to filter out these men
• 1:41:38
  that we're actually filtering in. So the risks will go up. Yeah,
• 1:41:42
  risk verse men will will go will stop, stop taking the risks as they
• 1:41:47
  go up. The current crop of risk, not risk of you know,
• 1:41:50
  the current level of risk aversion that this has become. The filtering system that
• 1:41:56
  will be you know, that'll be lost to time. The next level of
• 1:42:00
  risk adverse men, you know, like our non risk adverse men will stop.
• 1:42:03
  So if you if you have a man who's I don't know, fifty
• 1:42:05
  percent risk adverse, now he's not approaching, right because the risks are this,
• 1:42:10
  but we we are still incentivizing the psychos to approach. So we're gonna
• 1:42:15
  be like, well, how do we get the psychos to stop approaching women?
• 1:42:16
  Will increase the risk? Oh, now the men who are sixty percent
• 1:42:20
  risk adverse are no longer approaching. Even more, the dating sphere is even
• 1:42:26
  more dominated by the psychos. What are we gonna do, Well, let's
• 1:42:29
  increase the risk now the seventy percent you know, risk adverse men aren't approaching,
• 1:42:33
  and it's even more dominated by the psychos. Well, what do we
• 1:42:36
  do. Let's increase the risk now the eighty percent men you know are no
• 1:42:41
  longer approaching, even more dominated by the psycho. I think, I think
• 1:42:45
  what you're trying to say is a positive feedback loop, negative feedback loop,
• 1:42:49
  and he is a no, it's a positive feedback Okay, well, were
• 1:42:54
  you never kind of feedback loop. It is negative in the sense that it's
• 1:42:58
  not good. It's positive in the sense that it just cascades and feeds on
• 1:43:02
  itself and cascading and feeding on itself because people like this are never saying,
• 1:43:09
  well, okay, let's stop pushing the pushing the the expectations onto men to
• 1:43:14
  rise to this occasion to change a fundamental aspect of their personality that may be
• 1:43:18
  genetic. Let's let's just not do that. Let's ask ourselves, what the
• 1:43:24
  fuck are we doing? You know what? What what are we What are
• 1:43:28
  we doing to men? What are we expecting from men? Is it reasonable?
• 1:43:30
  Is it reasonable to increase the risk for the average man because of the
• 1:43:36
  behavior of the psychos who are completely risk averse, who care, who are
• 1:43:42
  completely risk averse, and who just happened to be the most successful and getting
• 1:43:46
  boon tank. Yes, okay, and they don't give a fuck for whatever
• 1:43:54
  reason. Women love these men and and they still are attracted to them,
• 1:44:00
  even though they're probably ninety five percent of all the really nasty sexual experiences that
• 1:44:06
  women have are the men that they are. They're just inevitably attracted to,
• 1:44:13
  and there is no level of risk that will stop these men from engaging in
• 1:44:16
  the behavior that's causing everybody to say, well, let's increase the risk to
• 1:44:19
  men. There's no level. It's only gonna it's just going to concentrate them
• 1:44:26
  and concentrate the dating world on them, so that the only men available to
• 1:44:30
  women are those men who have zero risk aversion. Whatsoever, for any reason.
• 1:44:35
  They don't give a fuck. If they're women are uncomfortable, they don't
• 1:44:38
  give a fuck. If women are screaming and saying stop, stop, stop,
• 1:44:43
  they don't give a fuck. They're gonna do whatever the fuck they want,
• 1:44:45
  and they do not care about the experience of women as a result.
• 1:44:48
  That's what we're selecting for in this psychotic race to the bottom. And this
• 1:44:55
  guy is part of it. He's a handmaiden. And since it's ritable,
• 1:45:00
  since dark triad traits personality traits, personality profiles are genetically heritable, what we're
• 1:45:08
  doing, and we are promoting a situation through welfare and you know WIC and
• 1:45:15
  you know mother mother and Children programs and all of that stuff that basically allows
• 1:45:21
  women to make completely careless and reckless reproductive choices. Right without having a stable
• 1:45:30
  father in the home, they can just go and fuck dark triad guy and
• 1:45:38
  uh and have his babies. Right, We're just gonna end up with more
• 1:45:41
  of these men. Yep, we're gonna We're gonna breed out everything that's wonderful
• 1:45:46
  about being human. Oh you just yeah, We're gonna it's not even gonna
• 1:45:51
  be idiocracy because those those people were generally well meaning, it's gonna be psychotic,
• 1:45:58
  psychotricy or whatever, except except for except for the one guy who really
• 1:46:02
  got off on watching the like the show Man getting kicked in the balls.
• 1:46:08
  Okay, but in general he wasn't well meaning. What I from what I
• 1:46:14
  recall that movie, the idiots were at least not Yeah, they were trying
• 1:46:19
  to. They were trying to be like, they're doing their best, and
• 1:46:24
  that's not that that's not going to be a future everybody's going to be a
• 1:46:27
  fucking idiot and they're gonna be malicious. Yeah, they were. They the
• 1:46:30
  guy's in Idiocracy. The people in Idiocracy were like, my dog bore At,
• 1:46:36
  he's he's well, I mean he's like you got you got the combinations
• 1:46:42
  of stupid, smart, good and bad in a dog, and he's a
• 1:46:45
  stupid good dog, right, you know, like that it's not as good
• 1:46:49
  as a stupid it's not as good as a smart good dog, right,
• 1:46:55
  but it's still pretty good. Right, Like Kevin's Kevin's a smart bad dog.
• 1:47:00
  She's the worst combination of dog. You were saying that this Kipio is
• 1:47:04
  a smart bad dog. Well, Skipio is a smart bad dog too.
• 1:47:10
  But you can still manage him, all right. He's only bad because he's
• 1:47:16
  smart. He's no one ever warned me how manipulative dogs are. No,
• 1:47:24
  no, no, no, most dogs aren't necessarily manipulative. Only the smart
• 1:47:29
  ones are. Okay, let's let's yeah, I got a super child from
• 1:47:33
  Richard Berre, so I should put that up on the screen. And he
• 1:47:38
  gives us five dollars and says, hasn't there been at least one case of
• 1:47:44
  a woman trying to track down the anonymous sperm donor for child support and also
• 1:47:48
  look into what the requirements are to be accepted as a sperm donor. There
• 1:47:51
  is a reason that the UK had or has a shortage of donor sperm and
• 1:47:56
  donors willing to contribute. I heard that at one point the entire donor supply
• 1:48:00
  was from something like only seventeen men. I think it was seven. And
• 1:48:03
  also, what really killed that sperm bank is they were trying to downplay it
• 1:48:10
  like, oh no, no, sounds like eugenics. To me, not
• 1:48:14
  enough men rise up to our high standards. Actually, what was happening is
• 1:48:18
  not enough men were even applying, okay, And that actually gave me sort
• 1:48:23
  of a white pill that there were guys out there who are like, yeah,
• 1:48:27
  you know, no, no, okay, sure, sure, okay,
• 1:48:30
  But there is also a problem since the nineteen eighties, okay, where
• 1:48:39
  sperm count and sperm motility right has been in decline, right, just like
• 1:48:45
  testosterone levels in decline, and the World Health Organization has lowered what is considered
• 1:48:55
  normal multiple times since the nineteen seventies. Because if you if if they didn't
• 1:49:01
  continue lowering what was considered normal, like eighty percent of men would be lower
• 1:49:10
  than normal testosterone levels, sperm count, and sperm motility. So there is
• 1:49:15
  there is a biological problem going on here. And then then you you also
• 1:49:24
  look at, uh that the comment about the sperm donor being hit up for
• 1:49:30
  child support, that was that was not an official sperm donor. That was
• 1:49:34
  somebody, if I recall, that was somebody who there was a lesbian couple
• 1:49:40
  who put out a classified ads for someone to donate sperm so they could have
• 1:49:45
  a child, and that Yeah, it's turning the freaking frogs gay anyway,
• 1:49:53
  But but you have you have a situation. I'm kind of retarded, but
• 1:50:03
  he was right. It it well, he was kind of right. It
• 1:50:06
  doesn't turn the frog's gay. It turns some trans but attersine. But you
• 1:50:13
  you look at you look at the situation with that that one case where it
• 1:50:19
  was a guy who answered a classified ad from a lesbian couple. They wanted
• 1:50:24
  to have a kid, and he privately donated his sperm as a favor.
• 1:50:29
  I think he was a gay man and and he was just like, yeah,
• 1:50:31
  no, you can have my sperm. And they did the Turkey baser
• 1:50:34
  thing and uh. And then when they split up, the one who had
• 1:50:41
  custody, who was the birth mother, she applied for welfare, and welfare
• 1:50:48
  was like, okay, who's the father so we can like save some money
• 1:50:54
  on you know, paying you to exist and uh. And she was like,
• 1:50:59
  oh is this and they were like, well, because he didn't go
• 1:51:01
  through an official sperm donation place and didn't go through a fertility clinic, right.
• 1:51:13
  They they even had a written contract right that he was not to be
• 1:51:17
  held liable for this child, He was not going to have any parental rights
• 1:51:20
  or responsibilities, right signed contract. The court just said, now, fuck
• 1:51:26
  it, we're not recognizing this contract because he didn't go through they didn't go
• 1:51:30
  through official channels, right, so he got dinguished child support. But they
• 1:51:36
  are actually looking at and I don't know whether I hate this. It really
• 1:51:42
  depends on what they do with it. For children who were conceived through sperm
• 1:51:48
  donation to be able to access information about their fathers, their biological fathers,
• 1:51:56
  because you know, you want a medical history. You want to know,
• 1:52:00
  oh, right, whether cancer runs in the family, heart disease runs in
• 1:52:03
  the family, you know all of these other things, right, You want
• 1:52:08
  to know all kinds of stuff about about your biological parentage if you can.
• 1:52:17
  But it like, if that's all it is, If that's all it is,
• 1:52:21
  you just get to know, you know, the medical history of the
• 1:52:26
  person who donated the sperm. I'm fine with that, but I have the
• 1:52:31
  feeling that that's maybe going to open the door to to uh, seeking some
• 1:52:41
  kind of financial obligation on the part of these men. So but yeah,
• 1:52:45
  no, it's it's it's part. Part of it is that men aren't donating
• 1:52:49
  sperm because of I mean, frankly realistic worries about what's going to be done
• 1:52:59
  with that sperm and what's going to be done to them because they donated.
• 1:53:04
  And then also the men are risk averse, Karen, eighty percent of eighty
• 1:53:12
  percent of men who donate sperm. Their sperm fails, it fails, it
• 1:53:24
  can't be used. They get their twenty dollars or whatever it is right for
• 1:53:29
  the sample and it and then they look at you know, the count and
• 1:53:35
  the motility and all of that, and they're like, yeah, no,
• 1:53:39
  this isn't viable. Okay, let's get back to the video because I don't
• 1:53:44
  want to do this. I don't want to do a third episode on this.
• 1:53:47
  We don't. We don't have to. I think we can, like,
• 1:53:49
  however, I don't know how much longer Karen has, but we can
• 1:53:54
  quit soon. So okay, I have I have time. She has time.
• 1:54:02
  I have now that I now that I had to run out, Let's
• 1:54:06
  do it live. We'll do it all right, all right, let's let's
• 1:54:13
  keep going. Let's oh I do I do you want me to know?
• 1:54:17
  I'll just read it really quick, but don't respond to it. Just leave
• 1:54:20
  it. Okay. So Richard Beierre gives us five dollars again and says,
• 1:54:27
  do you realize just what kind and how much special plot a woman will obtain
• 1:54:30
  from being the one to team Akito Gilgamesh opponent who became the friend that's not
• 1:54:34
  quite the name, but I know what you're talking about in you do of
• 1:54:38
  civilizing a dark triad man. Okay, thank you for that. We're gonna
• 1:54:43
  move on. I think you No, I think I think I have to
• 1:54:45
  address that. No, I'm just kidding, Okay, you motherfucker. Okay,
• 1:54:50
  I agree with him there. I think these numbers are a lot more
• 1:54:55
  complicated than saying young men aren't the specifically. I think they're a lot of
• 1:55:00
  quote powerful forces of society out there that have essentially convinced a lot of young
• 1:55:04
  men that to their society is at it again rejection, and that that rejection
• 1:55:10
  wouldn't just be a simple know that they could shrug off, but that it
• 1:55:13
  would be something damaging to their psyche, to their self esteem which is really
• 1:55:17
  and also their career and their Yeah, I did I pause their free their
• 1:55:24
  liberty. And I mean, like, do you do you hear about Britney
• 1:55:29
  Spears and justin Timberlake? Do you guys hear about that? So like Britney
• 1:55:34
  Spears, I mean, I uncover it next week. But Britney Spears like
• 1:55:40
  did did an interview or tell all or something and basically said that when she
• 1:55:44
  was dating Justin Timberlay, he got her pregnant and he pressured her to get
• 1:55:48
  an abortion, and that she's basically like accusing him of pressuring her into getting
• 1:55:53
  an abortion. This is like from the fucking whenever they were dating, like
• 1:55:57
  way back. They can they can do this whenever they want and it doesn't
• 1:56:00
  matter. This is why I'm bringing it up because Brittney spears, I don't
• 1:56:03
  know, if you know, not the most stable looking person these days,
• 1:56:08
  at least not in the court of public opinion, was able to make this.
• 1:56:11
  Just throw this out there, just throw it out there, and we're
• 1:56:13
  all just gonna like have to take this seriously now. So yeah, I'm
• 1:56:18
  like, well, what and if men see these stories Johnny Depp that picture
• 1:56:24
  I can't remember his name, you know, the yeah, yeah, you
• 1:56:30
  know what I'm talking about, the Dodgers picture that had to go to he
• 1:56:32
  had to go to Japan, the Yeah Bauer, Marilyn Manson, you know,
• 1:56:40
  and it goes on and on and on, you know, the guy
• 1:56:44
  from that seventies show, and it's like, well, men are like,
• 1:56:46
  well shit, like this is not like this is terrifying. So it's it's
• 1:56:51
  literally like like Bill Burr, you know, like how many great men are
• 1:56:56
  going to have to be you know, destroyed, you know, by gold
• 1:57:01
  digging horse before society addressed. Right, Well, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:57:06
  And it's not just that men are afraid of rejection, it's what that I
• 1:57:14
  mean. First, it's like Alison said, they're checking, they're they're pre
• 1:57:16
  rejecting themselves because women are telling them that they're not good enough without having to
• 1:57:21
  tell them they're not good enough. But also, you know, for the
• 1:57:26
  few that are considering it, they they're afraid of the consequences of asking a
• 1:57:30
  woman out. I mean, like the just asking the problem. The problem
• 1:57:36
  is not with men, and that the problem too is that is that asking
• 1:57:45
  just just asking, that's that's already a hurdle, right, yeah, and
• 1:57:51
  then getting involved having sex, right, that's another liability, and then getting
• 1:58:00
  married that's a whole another fucking pile of liability. Yeah. Right, So
• 1:58:05
  it's like it just gets worse and worse as you would instead of it getting
• 1:58:12
  better and better. Right, Like the you know you're nervous, you ask
• 1:58:15
  her out, you're nervous, and and then she says yes or no,
• 1:58:20
  and and then either way it's it's not a big, huge, hairy deal,
• 1:58:27
  right, But then you take it to the next level and the next
• 1:58:29
  level and the next level, and every time you up your level, the
• 1:58:34
  potential cost of her just saying yeah, no, I'm done, Yeah,
• 1:58:42
  okay, and I don't like you. It's it's just exponentially. It's like
• 1:58:47
  men are living their lives under the assim tote right of building a relationship.
• 1:58:56
  It's like, it's like, okay, the benefits are kind of you know,
• 1:59:00
  they they go up, they go up, you know, gradually,
• 1:59:03
  right they Yeah, because you go egos, you pull your resources, and
• 1:59:10
  the risk goes back. Yeah, it goes up like a freaking massive bell
• 1:59:15
  curve, just like unbelievable. You mean, it's it goes up. Essentially,
• 1:59:20
  what you're saying is that the the benefit to the relationship for the one
• 1:59:25
  for the man goes up linearly, and the benefit and the risk it's very
• 1:59:32
  and it goes very, very ma enthusian. It's like when he predicted that
• 1:59:39
  the food supply would go up linearly or trismetically, and and then and then
• 1:59:45
  the population was going to go up exponentially, and you know, but yeah,
• 1:59:48
  we're not doing anything to compensate for the exponential increase in risk to men
• 1:59:56
  farming. We're not farming more, we're not ecing crop yields, We're not
• 2:00:00
  like doing anything to balance it out, right, I mean, Malthus predicted
• 2:00:11
  that we would all be dead by now because food supply, right, resources
• 2:00:16
  grow linearly and population grows exponentially. So we were all going to be dead
• 2:00:21
  by now. But we figured out a way to increase resources, increase food
• 2:00:28
  supply, increase all of that stuff, you know, tighten up, make
• 2:00:31
  things more efficient, you know it. Yeah, I think that we get
• 2:00:38
  your point, Karen. I just wanted to make my points about the first
• 2:00:43
  of all the data. Something occurred to me. The men who are still
• 2:00:46
  approaching more and more, they are going to be representative dark triad men who
• 2:00:53
  have a high risk tolerance, they have low risk conversion, and they are
• 2:00:57
  probably moving that average that he says, oh oh, the people, the
• 2:01:01
  men who are still approaching are less risk adverse. Well, yeah, because
• 2:01:06
  they more and more, the men who are still approaching have a larger and
• 2:01:11
  larger proportion of psychos. That's what you're finding. Okay, You're you've discovered
• 2:01:18
  that when you take when you take a population that's risk adverse, it's much
• 2:01:24
  less likely to have the psychos in it, or are the people who the
• 2:01:28
  men who are no longer approaching are probably less likely to have psychos in them
• 2:01:32
  because the psychos will do what they'll do, you know. The dark triad
• 2:01:36
  men will do what they'll do. They don't care, you know. And
• 2:01:39
  so what you found is that a population of men that has a higher level
• 2:01:44
  of dark triad men is less risk adverse. Congratulations, yeah Jesus. But
• 2:01:50
  I you know, I'm glad that she pushed back on that, because the
• 2:01:54
  other thing I want to point out is we are looking at this like men
• 2:01:59
  are afraid of reject and we're like, well, how dare right? How
• 2:02:01
  dare these risk adverse men be afraid of rejection? How dare men have a
• 2:02:06
  personality trait that probably has a genetic component and experience the effects of that,
• 2:02:13
  you know? How dare? And but think about what we're doing to men,
• 2:02:17
  like we're you know, when you when you have a rejection, what
• 2:02:21
  keeps people going? You know, the feeling like they have an inherent worth
• 2:02:26
  that this particular person just didn't see. Do we give men a sense of
• 2:02:30
  their inherent worth? Like that would be what would get risk adverse men to
• 2:02:34
  continue to uh to uh invest, invest and continue to risk rejection is if
• 2:02:43
  they had more people supporting their inherent worth. You see what I'm saying,
• 2:02:47
  Like, if a guy has a bunch of friends to go back to an
• 2:02:50
  ah, you struck out that that woman obviously doesn't understand. You know,
• 2:02:56
  it's just a shallow thing. She probably thought your shoes were not the right
• 2:03:00
  shade of brown or something. You know, some a place for men to
• 2:03:02
  actually lick their wounds and wounds and feel like they have some worth other than
• 2:03:11
  you know, getting a woman interested in them. And that's the other thing,
• 2:03:14
  Like we don't give men a recognition, any other recognition of their worth
• 2:03:18
  aside from sexual validation by women. Well, yeah, because because women have
• 2:03:25
  taken they've they've essentially feminists have taken over the other spheres of men's I guess,
• 2:03:33
  their ability to access self worth. Right. Oh, well, you're
• 2:03:36
  nothing special just because you earn enough to raise a family. You're nothing special
• 2:03:43
  just because you can protect you know, like just think about the brave women
• 2:03:47
  and men of our military who gave their lives right and all. Yeah,
• 2:03:53
  just there's no way, there's no way to distinguish yourself as a man that
• 2:03:59
  women haven't colonized value as a man. Yeah, and so you know,
• 2:04:04
  and women will always have their unique value, right, even even sterile women,
• 2:04:11
  right, because they're women, and women represent procreation, they represent the
• 2:04:16
  propagation of the species, they represent the mother child diad. Right, even
• 2:04:23
  sterile women will have that kind of spillover value right from the women who do
• 2:04:30
  produce children. And so you're you're looking at the situation where it's just like,
• 2:04:35
  well, yeah, no anything like like Barack Obama said, anything a
• 2:04:41
  man can do, a woman can do and do it better and in heals,
• 2:04:48
  right, And it's like that is you know, and that is the
• 2:04:54
  fact that that that he said that and he got applause from women is an
• 2:05:02
  indictment of women because that kind of pandering is so naked and so obvious and
• 2:05:12
  so pathetic and so ridiculous, so over the top, right, and all
• 2:05:19
  it is is just like ooh, women patent themselves. They weren't applauding.
• 2:05:25
  They were like, hear that sound, that's me patting myself on the back.
• 2:05:31
  It's not applause. And it's like, how shall you know, how
• 2:05:41
  narcissistic can you be to it? But isn't even like what I mean.
• 2:05:45
  Okay, I'm not a woman like this. I don't understand it. Maybe
• 2:05:48
  if some woman is listening, who understands this? When a guy gets up
• 2:05:54
  on a stage and says, do I smell the pussy? And oh,
• 2:05:57
  I love the pussy? The pussy represents moral beauty, and I'm like,
• 2:06:00
  what the fuck? I'm sorry, No, I'm not interested in that ship.
• 2:06:05
  Okay, I'm not interested in listening to something my my, my cunt
• 2:06:10
  being praised at the sensive recognition of who I am as a person. Oh,
• 2:06:15
  you don't. You don't want your you don't want your count? Lips
• 2:06:17
  nibbled, what's wrong? Like, I don't understand if a woman who is
• 2:06:25
  in that mindset explain it to me. Because as soon as a man gets
• 2:06:29
  on stage and starts praising my cunt, Oh, praise the cunt, praise,
• 2:06:32
  I'm like, fuck off. Okay, want Brian, am I popping?
• 2:06:44
  No? Do not, Brian, do not do not schold us for
• 2:06:47
  our language, doing it whimsically. Okay, is a beautiful count is a
• 2:06:57
  beautiful word. It is meaningless, Like all of that praise is utterly meaningless,
• 2:07:02
  Like what do you do with it? Like? Oh, I share
• 2:07:06
  this with all every other woman. Yeah, and I get it worse.
• 2:07:11
  I get it just. I get it just by existing and I have like
• 2:07:15
  a completely equal share of value with every other want that I want that.
• 2:07:25
  I know. It's oh fucking suffer, like, isn't there isn't there something
• 2:07:31
  about you? You you just want talking back up into your womb and just
• 2:07:38
  be like like, don't don't you want to distinguish yourself. It doesn't better
• 2:07:44
  from your peers, right, better, worse different, you know, like
• 2:07:49
  a little sideways whatever. Don't you want to just don't you want to be
• 2:07:55
  an individual? Don't imagine how to actually? Oh my god, I just
• 2:07:59
  imagine being in like a in a in a I don't know, like a
• 2:08:03
  an audience with with a guy like a Barack Obama saying oh women, women,
• 2:08:09
  women are wonderful because because you all have pussies or vaginas penis is if
• 2:08:16
  you have a penis. But so if it becomes more bizarre and confiea I
• 2:08:20
  know, but it's like it's like I'm thinking, you know, like,
• 2:08:22
  okay, so robotic applause, I am unit, I am vaginal unit six,
• 2:08:33
  I am blood this you know, like that's that's all I see like,
• 2:08:39
  these are fucking sheep, are you? Women are of that? And
• 2:08:45
  you look around, you know, you look around beside you as a woman
• 2:08:48
  raping like an eight year old boy. On the other side is a woman's
• 2:08:52
  taking a cleaver to her husband and there's curing cancer. And you're like,
• 2:08:58
  oh, we all have uterie. Yeah, all this same, we're all
• 2:09:07
  better than men. Silence bonus hole, I can't murder someone. I can
• 2:09:13
  at murder someone better than a man. All right, let's let's let's play
• 2:09:22
  some more rock. You don't see any difference. Okay, he just did
• 2:09:26
  it for votes and he got them because because you have a freaking annoying Yeah,
• 2:09:31
  they just want in a really abstract water sex. Great, because I'm
• 2:09:41
  a woman, like off Jesus Christ. Brain this flattery, like Brian said,
• 2:09:50
  it's so abstract that and it's still actually it's actually completely divorced from the
• 2:09:58
  women because they're not doing anything to get it. So it's just him.
• 2:10:03
  It's all about him providing them something. So what happens when he stops doing
• 2:10:09
  it? You know, if you make your identity this this this fatuous,
• 2:10:13
  empty flattery, then what happens when the man stops doing it? You don't
• 2:10:18
  have the action that you've taken that gives you a sense of value. So
• 2:10:22
  if he stops flattering you, that value is gone, and it's not It
• 2:10:26
  has nothing to do with you. You have no control over it, which
• 2:10:31
  leads you in a situation where you're constantly having to obsess and act controllingly towards
• 2:10:37
  the opinions of men because you basically live through them. And then they call
• 2:10:41
  us pigmies. Are you joking, sister, oh, jollie. These women
• 2:10:48
  most are successful to some extent. Specifically, sixty eight percent reported making at
• 2:10:54
  least one successful romantic is go back to the go back to the church.
• 2:10:58
  So I want to look at that, all right, and do littlech Women
• 2:11:03
  most are successful to some extent, Specifically, sixty eight percent reported making at
• 2:11:07
  least one successful Okay, I just wanted to let Lauren try to finish her
• 2:11:13
  sentence. No, I'm not interested, but she's gonna she's gonna get rid
• 2:11:16
  of the chart before yeah, before she finishes her sentence because she's sneaky.
• 2:11:24
  So a two month relationship that is a failure. Sex. I mean,
• 2:11:30
  yes, I understand that people want to have sex, but in terms of
• 2:11:33
  what we're aiming for as in a healthy long term society. The fact that
• 2:11:37
  people have genital handshakes is irrelevant. So long term relationship, Uh, how
• 2:11:46
  do you have a how do you have two or more? Long in a
• 2:11:50
  year? Yeah, well, it depends on how long long term. It
• 2:11:54
  could be like a year or more than six months, more than two months,
• 2:12:00
  more than two months two months, yeah, yeah, more than two
• 2:12:01
  months at best. We're looking at maybe ten in a long term relationship after
• 2:12:09
  this, No, we're last, I think so, uh one long term
• 2:12:20
  relationship that's like, uh yeah, and and then is like yeah, so
• 2:12:33
  basically after a year of approaches, ten percent of men are in long term
• 2:12:39
  relationships. Mm hmm yeah. Good lord. So that means that the average
• 2:12:46
  man and these this, this this group of men is going to be different,
• 2:12:50
  like the men who are who are approaching women are going to be the
• 2:12:54
  more attractive women or men. Well but but look at look at look at
• 2:12:58
  the look at the like kind of the the okay, successful approaches past year
• 2:13:07
  okay, zero, okay, And what are you trying to I'm thinking connection
• 2:13:20
  contacts dates. Right. Everything seems to be you know, like kind of
• 2:13:28
  following a pattern, right until you get to the uh, the seventy two
• 2:13:39
  and the eighty six, right, who basically they're just not they're not making
• 2:13:52
  they're not making any five or more year. Well, yeah, because you
• 2:13:56
  can't. Really, it's really difficult to have five or more successful approaches,
• 2:14:01
  five or more long term relationships in a year. Except there does seem to
• 2:14:07
  be a small percentage of people who are having five or more long term relationships
• 2:14:13
  in a year. How they manage that very interesting? But regardless, my
• 2:14:16
  overall point is a year of rejection and ten percent of these men might be
• 2:14:24
  in a long term relationship. Real, that's still it's not so that seems
• 2:14:31
  like really depressing to me. Yeah, that's not white. I mean,
• 2:14:37
  that's this is a self selected group of men. You know that these men
• 2:14:41
  are more attractive than average, or more socially capable than average. They also
• 2:14:46
  have a lower risk or they have a higher risk tolerance, which is going
• 2:14:50
  to mean that they're probably be more extroverted, more open, probably more dark
• 2:14:56
  triad. So we're talking about the the top half of men, probably even
• 2:15:01
  more. Actually let's see, Yeah, the top half of men, the
• 2:15:05
  top half of the Bell curve have to approach for a year, and only
• 2:15:11
  ten percent of them end up in a long term relationship, which is probably
• 2:15:13
  in itself meaningless. Where are the rings alex where the marriage is Okay,
• 2:15:20
  how many of these end up in marriage? Okay, all right, let's
• 2:15:26
  play some Yeah, let's place some connection. So, yes, it is
• 2:15:30
  scary to approach a woman and potentially be rejected. And yes, odds are
• 2:15:33
  you will be rejected at least some of the time, and potentially even all
• 2:15:37
  of the time. But still, I think a lot of young men out
• 2:15:39
  there who maybe do spend too much time on in cell forums, they wrongly
• 2:15:43
  believe that it would be simply impossible for them to get a girlfriend, when
• 2:15:48
  that ATA does show that, actually, okay, it is possible for you
• 2:15:52
  to get Ada does not show that. No, And it's well, and
• 2:15:58
  the data is not individual at all, right, it doesn't doesn't select for
• 2:16:03
  traits. It's like a million confounds, right, Like, so all of
• 2:16:07
  these men in this chart are they you know, uh what what's their average
• 2:16:16
  height? What's their average income? Right? You know, like what is
• 2:16:22
  actually what are you? The only difference is that the men who aren't approaching
• 2:16:28
  are more risk adverse. No, yeah, no, and no, it's
• 2:16:31
  it's probably that the men who aren't approaching are maybe they're five foot nine.
• 2:16:37
  Maybe they're there they work as a short order cook, you know, or
• 2:16:46
  as as a department manager at a Walmart. Right, they're not they don't
• 2:16:54
  have a great wardrobe because they don't need one. I mean, like,
• 2:16:58
  I was just at a car dealership the other day, and it's like I
• 2:17:01
  look at all these young men, right, and they're all thirsty young men.
• 2:17:05
  They're thirsty for money, they're thirsty for the ladies, and they're all
• 2:17:11
  dressed in the latest fashion, including pants that look like four inches too short,
• 2:17:18
  right, But I guess that's the style now, that's the metrosexual style
• 2:17:22
  now. But it's like these like, Okay, that's not everybody. No,
• 2:17:31
  that's definitely not everybody. And you know, you're looking at five hundred
• 2:17:35
  dollars commission to sell one car, and okay, that's a good income,
• 2:17:41
  even if you only sell one car every couple of days. But it's it's
• 2:17:48
  like, that's not everybody. That's not every guy. And I'm looking at
• 2:17:52
  some of the guys who work at the grocery store overweight, you know,
• 2:17:56
  they're a little bit sloppy look in they're you know, they're just they're not
• 2:18:03
  those metrosexual guys. Okay, and and they're not. They're not getting dates,
• 2:18:11
  right, not the metrosexual guy really not unless they have hidden depths.
• 2:18:18
  Okay, look meet and meet a woman who appreciates hidden depths. Even the
• 2:18:24
  metrosexual guys are are striking out more than they are actually getting something. And
• 2:18:30
  that's sort of approaches over a year, So this isn't just one approach.
• 2:18:33
  This is multiple over years. And the other thing is that risk aversion comes
• 2:18:37
  with another It's like I was saying, it comes with the suite of attendant
• 2:18:43
  personality qualities. You're more likely to be dark triad, you're more likely to
• 2:18:48
  be extroverted, You're more likely to be more open to new experiences like that.
• 2:18:52
  What's really annoying is that this is glib. This is like, oh,
• 2:18:56
  oh, you know, you're just risk adverse. That's why no risk
• 2:19:00
  kid first is a personality trait. Yeah, be glib, being glib.
• 2:19:07
  It reminds you of the Tom Cruise, remember that Tom cruise being you can't
• 2:19:11
  being glib? Yes, be glibli it's glib perfect, you know. And
• 2:19:18
  it's like, oh, just fundamentally alter yourself. Okay, it's actually better
• 2:19:24
  advice change yourself from the inside out. Why can't actually make yourself taller.
• 2:19:30
  It's actually better advice to say, just get a gym membership, because that
• 2:19:35
  is more doable than fundamentally altering your personality. So with this risk and version,
• 2:19:39
  you're gonna be looking at the extroverts. You're gonna be and the extroverts
• 2:19:43
  are gonna have more social facility, They're gonna be more willing to talk to
• 2:19:46
  people and know how to talk to people, which gets to another aspect of
• 2:19:50
  rejection women. And the more frightened the more that this is. So women
• 2:19:56
  want men to approach and they do not want to feel like there's any agenda,
• 2:20:03
  right, so that any awkwardness is going to signal an agenda, and
• 2:20:07
  they're going to say creepy, any kind of sense of pressure is going to
• 2:20:11
  signal it an agenda. So you're talking about and the more we hype up
• 2:20:16
  the fear right, the more men have to balance on that tightrope of of
• 2:20:24
  approaching and everybody knows why he's approaching, but manufacturing this reality in which oh,
• 2:20:31
  oh, we're just two leaves that happen to bump together on the on
• 2:20:35
  the stream there a little lady, you know, and then reality, you
• 2:20:41
  are selecting for a level of extra version that's far beyond the average man and
• 2:20:50
  risk. Aversion and extra version go hand in hand. Most humans were we
• 2:20:56
  are we are? You know, we don't seem to put enough stock in
• 2:21:03
  understanding that a high level of sociability goes with a high level of risk tolerance.
• 2:21:11
  Okay. And it's that's if you're expecting the average man to be that
• 2:21:16
  well, welcome to the future. No, people aren't pairing up. Can't
• 2:21:22
  expect that, Okay. It's like expecting the average man to have the same
• 2:21:28
  musk, the same musculature and skeletal structure as Chris Holmes Helmsworth. All right,
• 2:21:31
  It's just as improbable to expect the average man to have the level of
• 2:21:37
  extraversion and sociability of somebody with which is associated with low risk tolerance. Okay.
• 2:21:43
  And to be able to walk that tightrope of making a woman feel like
• 2:21:48
  there's no agenda while at the same time letting her know that there definitely is
• 2:21:56
  an agenda. Yeah, I was. I was always one of those women
• 2:22:01
  was just like, you know, like, hey, you don't have to
• 2:22:05
  you don't have to play coy, right, you don't have to. You
• 2:22:07
  don't have to like, you know, coax me along. Right. If
• 2:22:11
  I want to fuck you, I'll fuck you. And and it's like,
• 2:22:16
  you know, it might not necessarily want to see you the next day,
• 2:22:18
  right, but you know, like if I know, if I like you,
• 2:22:24
  right, I'm fine. I'm fine with that, Like it's it's fine.
• 2:22:30
  And I've never actually had sex with anybody that I didn't like, right
• 2:22:35
  that I that I wouldn't spend you know, be able to sit down and
• 2:22:39
  have dinner with or something like that. It doesn't mean I want to be
• 2:22:43
  with them for the rest of my life, right, just means that,
• 2:22:46
  you know, like I I'm not gonna I'm not. But what I'm saying,
• 2:22:52
  okay, is that I never had to play those games. I hated
• 2:22:58
  those games. I've all always hated those games. Just tell me what you
• 2:23:01
  want and let's get it done, right. And most men don't know how
• 2:23:09
  to handle that, right, They really don't because they're not used to it,
• 2:23:13
  because ninety nine percent of women are the complete opposite. They are that
• 2:23:20
  person who's like, well, I have to feel like you're not trying to
• 2:23:24
  get laid with me while at the same time you're signaling that you do yeah.
• 2:23:33
  But the overall point is that that's such a that is such a high
• 2:23:37
  high the amount of yeah, the amount of skill that you need socially,
• 2:23:43
  like psychologically in terms of manipulation to pull off that grid that conundrum dark triad,
• 2:23:54
  yeah, where I'm not really interested. Yeah, well, but but
• 2:24:01
  I'm interested And like my my husband kind of figured out some interesting tricks,
• 2:24:09
  you know, that helped him out in getting laid before he met me.
• 2:24:15
  Right, one was the the oh oh thank god trick, right when she
• 2:24:22
  says, when she says, oh, I'm I'm I'm really sorry, like
• 2:24:26
  I'm just I feel like maybe you're interested in me and and I'm just I
• 2:24:33
  just don't think of you that way. And he would always say, oh,
• 2:24:37
  oh thank god. I was feeling the exact same thing, you know,
• 2:24:41
  like I just really like enjoy your company, but I'm not interested in
• 2:24:46
  you in that way. And I was worried that maybe you were thinking that
• 2:24:48
  I was right. And then like six hours later bow chick a wow,
• 2:24:54
  wow, Okay, yes, but the thing is, the social facility is
• 2:25:00
  really high and want I don't want to say it's psychology, it because the
• 2:25:03
  Dark Triad men are really good at this kind of social manipulation. And the
• 2:25:09
  reason why is they don't give a fuck about their woman's personality. They don't
• 2:25:15
  give a fuck about the woman herself, like she's simply a resource to exploit,
• 2:25:20
  and so they have no none of that anxiety about being rejected by an
• 2:25:24
  actual person that a normal man would have. It's just basically like, oh,
• 2:25:31
  this vending machine didn't take my quarter, Well I'll go to the next
• 2:25:33
  one. Yeah, it's a numbers game. It's a numbers game for them,
• 2:25:37
  and so they can manage this a lot better than the average man.
• 2:25:41
  And like it's to say that, oh, all you have to do,
• 2:25:46
  guys, is attain a really high level of social acumen that you may not
• 2:25:52
  actually be inclined to be able to develop. And incidentally, if you do
• 2:25:56
  want to approach that, it'd probably be a good idea to have like a
• 2:26:00
  a job in sales or in like front facing in retail or something develop those
• 2:26:07
  kind of social skills. But the but like it still is a really like
• 2:26:13
  it's a high demand is a big high ask, and it also means that
• 2:26:18
  those men who are developing those social skills, which are manipulative, let's be
• 2:26:24
  fit, let's be honest, and you know they they're about creating an experience
• 2:26:31
  that's not true. Then they're not focusing on things like keeping the lights on,
• 2:26:39
  making sure people can flush their toilets, creating great art. Because there
• 2:26:45
  is also a correlation between social anxiety and being artistic or scientifically minded, you
• 2:26:52
  know, being a genius when it comes to art or science. Right,
• 2:26:56
  So we aren't incentivizing those men. The men we are incentive are the psychos
• 2:27:01
  who can lie. Well, yeah, that's really great for our society.
• 2:27:03
  Huh, Alexander psych God damn, I'm sorry. I just I asked this
• 2:27:11
  guy for the sources of his information. He still hasn't got back to me
• 2:27:15
  on that. And he also made a really snide Twitter comment that directly referenced
• 2:27:20
  one of my criticisms of his work, which was maybe there's a lot of
• 2:27:26
  men who don't want to approach women because women have told them that being approached
• 2:27:30
  is traumatizing, and they don't want to traumatize women. And he created this
• 2:27:35
  tweet sequence that said, oh, these guys are lying. They actually Oh
• 2:27:39
  they're the same guys who are insulting women on Twitter. Yeah, therefore they're
• 2:27:45
  lying about not wanting to upset women in real life. Like you've made this
• 2:27:50
  false equivalence between men who don't want to upset women in real life and men
• 2:27:56
  who are on Twitter upsetting women. There's no reason to believe there's any kind
• 2:28:00
  of overlap, but you've constructed this overlap in order to dismiss this very legitimate
• 2:28:03
  concern. Even if there is an overlap, it's everybody. Everybody acknowledges that
• 2:28:11
  it's one thing to say something as a nameless, faceless person on social media,
• 2:28:16
  and then to say somebody something to somebody's face, right, that's it's
• 2:28:22
  it's a completely different thing. And to make broad generalizations on social media about,
• 2:28:28
  you know, the situation that you feel you're in, women suck whatever,
• 2:28:31
  right, And to tell a woman you suck as a woman and and
• 2:28:37
  say it right to her face, it's it's like I couldn't even I I
• 2:28:41
  I could only come a little bit close to calling Sachikula cunt in person.
• 2:28:48
  I always try and be polite to even my adversaries in person, you know,
• 2:28:54
  but I I apparently I called her one six times on a live stream
• 2:29:00
  we did of one of her her how likely was she being a cunt?
• 2:29:05
  Honestly? Oh? Yeah, no, like it was basically it was.
• 2:29:09
  It was like forty five minutes into the interview, and she's like, wow,
• 2:29:13
  you called me a cunt? And I was like, oh did I
• 2:29:16
  She's like yeah, like six times, and I'm like, are you denying
• 2:29:22
  it? She says, and I'm like no, I just don't recall I
• 2:29:26
  call lots of people cuts and and she's like, wait, do you still
• 2:29:31
  think I'm a cunt? And I was like, yeah, kinda right,
• 2:29:35
  And I really wish I would have actually just looked at my fake watch,
• 2:29:41
  like my non existent watch, and said, well, we've been here for
• 2:29:43
  forty five minutes and you haven't given me a reason to change my mind,
• 2:29:48
  so right, Like that would have been more clever. But no, the
• 2:29:52
  kind is pretty good too. Yeah, And she she actually put that in
• 2:29:56
  the intro, the pre credit intro to a net Flick's freaking episode that she
• 2:30:01
  did. I don't think you made her look very good? No, and
• 2:30:05
  she but I mean she spent the on tire interview looking like she'd been forced
• 2:30:09
  I was like forced feeding her boot bird boot Uh, okay, let's let's
• 2:30:16
  let's do some more of this. I gotta go soon, very very soon.
• 2:30:22
  I mean I should have been gone a little while ago. But I
• 2:30:24
  let you guys, anything is there anything more in this? She just I
• 2:30:31
  think we like I could jump ahead to this tweet that he made. I
• 2:30:35
  got a super chow. I bet I. I really don't want to be
• 2:30:37
  here all night. I'm just I'm just gonna put it out there. I
• 2:30:41
  think I think we've done this two and a half hours, almost three.
• 2:30:45
  No one's gonna watch this. It's too long. So Alexander made a tweet
• 2:30:50
  and he said, in a recent survey we asked about locus of control and
• 2:30:52
  dating difficulties logos of the control. We already know what locus of control is.
• 2:30:56
  So he's trying to suggest that these men who are not stepping up have
• 2:31:01
  a low external locus of control. You know what about of control? Yeah?
• 2:31:07
  Yeah. First of all, a lot of people who are very successful
• 2:31:11
  have well it's it's flattering to have an external locus or an internal internal I
• 2:31:18
  created my success. You know, you got to be careful with that.
• 2:31:22
  The other thing is that these guys who are very successful with women, and
• 2:31:30
  you say they have an internal locus of control, put them through one bad
• 2:31:35
  breakup, one abusive relationship, you know, one situation where they get divorced
• 2:31:39
  or lose their children. These are the guys that kill themselves. Yeah,
• 2:31:45
  because it was all on them and because they created their own situation. And
• 2:31:50
  so it's like you look at it and it's the internal locus of control,
• 2:31:56
  is I mean, I I would prefer that most people people look at things
• 2:32:01
  with a certain amount of balance. Right. There are things that I can
• 2:32:05
  do to improve myself. I can clean my room right, I can follow
• 2:32:09
  twelve rules for life. I can do these things right. I can make
• 2:32:13
  those things happen right. But there's a huge amount of luck and timing and
• 2:32:22
  just randomness that occurs. I'm sure that there's lives that make the difference between
• 2:32:28
  a billionaire and somebody who's living in their car. And I'm sure than a
• 2:32:33
  guy who's like six foot or six foot three with an eight inch you know,
• 2:32:39
  and his fit is very inclined to think that it's his good heart and
• 2:32:46
  intelligence that got him everything. Well, I mean like honestly, he might
• 2:32:50
  even be like, well, it's my eight inches and my six feet is
• 2:32:54
  six foot three, and this that got me what, you know? But
• 2:33:01
  Hey, that's still me, right, and that's me that got those things
• 2:33:05
  right. But but at the same time, when you look at it and
• 2:33:09
  you look at you know, this is this is the internal locus of control.
• 2:33:13
  Is it really is prey to the apex fallacy? Right, Like everybody
• 2:33:20
  that we look at who really made something of themselves, from from Mark Zuckerberg
• 2:33:26
  to Vivek Ramaswami to like anybody who really Patrick bet David, you know,
• 2:33:31
  anybody who was really very successful. Right. Yes, they worked hard,
• 2:33:35
  yes they you know, made all the right decisions in the moment and all
• 2:33:41
  of that, but they arrived at a moment, right. Steve Jobs,
• 2:33:46
  he arrived in a specific moment, right, And maybe he made all of
• 2:33:52
  the right decisions in terms of what he wanted to get done. He made
• 2:33:56
  a lot of really bad decisions in terms of his personal life in favor of
• 2:34:01
  his financial success. But okay, but if he'd arrived, if he'd gotten
• 2:34:09
  his idea three years later, you would have been nobody, nobody, right,
• 2:34:18
  And this is this is the thing. And people who are basically like,
• 2:34:22
  yeah, you can be a self made man, well, yeah,
• 2:34:24
  sometimes sometimes when the planets aligned, yes you can. Right, I'm just
• 2:34:31
  saying that people who are very successful have an inclination to regard them. Yes
• 2:34:35
  they do, they do, as all them right, and or I was
• 2:34:41
  smart enough to see the market, you know, and what it was doing
• 2:34:43
  and everything, and there is an element of truth to that. Right,
• 2:34:48
  I bought the dip. My stocks have more than doubled since you know,
• 2:34:52
  the middle of COVID, right, all of that, you know, like,
• 2:34:58
  okay, yeah, you see a situation, you pounce on it,
• 2:35:01
  right, But I had ten thousand dollars sitting around to invest, right,
• 2:35:09
  Like I If I didn't have that, I wouldn't have been able even if
• 2:35:15
  I saw what was going on, even if I wanted to, I wouldn't
• 2:35:18
  have been able to invest in that, right. So, I mean a
• 2:35:22
  lot of it is really just blind luck. It's just random happenstance. It's
• 2:35:26
  just when you it's the decisions you make, but it's also when and where
• 2:35:31
  you make them according to like random shit that's going on that is completely out
• 2:35:37
  of your control. And people, people who are very successful, they really
• 2:35:43
  want to credit themselves. Oh, it was all my doing, It was
• 2:35:46
  all my I'm Tony Robbins, and it was all about you know, me
• 2:35:52
  and my attitude and my manifestation of the things that I wanted and all of
• 2:35:56
  this stuff. Right, It's like, no, you arrived on the scene,
• 2:36:00
  made decisions, maybe just through like maybe not even thinking about it very
• 2:36:05
  much. You just kind of stumbled into something that turned out to succeed.
• 2:36:11
  And for every one of you, there's a hundred guys right who didn't end
• 2:36:18
  up with anything. Who when is your absolutely you have to go? I
• 2:36:26
  mean, I I you know, like today two hours and forty five minutes,
• 2:36:35
  I mean, I'm just I'm done. I'm done. I'm done.
• 2:36:39
  It's like, okay, I'd like to just you know, be done.
• 2:36:41
  Okay, can we finish this whatever point is made from this slide? All
• 2:36:45
  right, colin me. We asked about locus of control or LOC and dating
• 2:36:48
  difficulties. LLC describes the degree to which you feel you have agency and control
• 2:36:52
  over your life. Internal LLC equals high agency high control, external LLC low
• 2:36:58
  agency. Things just happened to you. Across all the dating difficulty items,
• 2:37:01
  people with a higher external LOC reported more difficulty with dating. These are individual
• 2:37:05
  dispositions, beliefs, and attitudes that shape your behavior. There's a lot out
• 2:37:09
  of your control, but at the end of the day, one thing is
• 2:37:11
  clear. If you're afraid to talk to women, you're not going to meet
• 2:37:13
  very many women. Women are not just going to fall into your lap.
• 2:37:18
  And I'm just, oh, go ahead, go ahead. I was just
• 2:37:22
  going to read the rest of this because he's just reading his tweets. So,
• 2:37:26
  and before we look for the systemic roots of modern dating woes, we
• 2:37:28
  should look at individual behavior. The amount of men who simply are not trying,
• 2:37:33
  who believe everything is out of their control, seems to explain a lot
• 2:37:35
  of it. Yeah, and there's no there, Like, here's the thing
• 2:37:41
  he's proposing that men just sort of randomly came to this conclusion. You know,
• 2:37:46
  just just sometime in the last couple decades, a whole bunch of men
• 2:37:48
  were like, you know, wouldn't it serve me if I just thought everything
• 2:37:52
  is out of my control? You know, why don't I just shoot myself
• 2:37:56
  on the foot and just stop approaching women? You know, Like, where
• 2:38:01
  does he think this comes from? Yeah, yeah, no, And it's
• 2:38:05
  like some of it, I think some of it does have to do with
• 2:38:09
  low testosterone levels in men, no doubt. But some of it also,
• 2:38:15
  I think is is you know, like when you get rejected, when you
• 2:38:20
  get screwed over for promotion because there was a woman who was slightly less qualified
• 2:38:26
  for than you are, but she has a vagina, right, and this
• 2:38:31
  has happened to my husband multiple times, right where you seem less competent and
• 2:38:35
  it be really painful. Just emoaded me. Let me say this, It
• 2:38:39
  must be really painful to have that woman get the job and then put on
• 2:38:43
  her profile. I don't want any man. It doesn't make more than me.
• 2:38:48
  Yeah. And then also to say, the first thing that they did
• 2:38:52
  when they converted me from a contractor to an employee is send me to a
• 2:38:56
  diversity re date diversity seminar where they taught me how bad I have it compared
• 2:39:05
  to the men around here. And it's like they haven't converted a man to
• 2:39:11
  an employee in seven years, they're only converting women. Well, you see
• 2:39:18
  that the discrimination against women dis justifies the perpetual and endless, in eternal discrimination
• 2:39:24
  against men. Yeah, And it's like so I was just like really really
• 2:39:31
  so then she comes and she starts unloading this vomit of like feminist bullshit right
• 2:39:41
  onto my husband, who's you know, he was like co worker, worked
• 2:39:45
  with her for years, and you know, she's confident. She was like,
• 2:39:48
  you know, he was like, yeah, no, I like her,
• 2:39:50
  this isn't This isn't the one he's working with now, is it?
• 2:39:54
  No? No, And she's like, oh my god, I just never
• 2:39:58
  realized how oppressed I am in the workplace, like and how difficult it is
• 2:40:03
  for me as a woman, because you know, like I took this seminar
• 2:40:05
  and and and now I see all the ways I'm being discriminated against. And
• 2:40:11
  he's like, are you fucking kidding me, bitch? Right, So it's
• 2:40:16
  like, did she say anything to that. No, he didn't say that
• 2:40:22
  to her because you don't say that to her because she has job security and
• 2:40:26
  he's a contractor who's on a fire at will. Fucking think what a perfect
• 2:40:31
  system. You put women in position where they can't be contradicted. You fill
• 2:40:33
  their head full of nonsense about how they're discriminated against as they are positively put
• 2:40:39
  you know, put in her men, and then you put men in a
• 2:40:43
  position where they can't be they can't correct the women. So they think that
• 2:40:46
  this is the situation. Yeah, yeah no, And I'm just like,
• 2:40:52
  oh my fuck. Moudility always rolls downhill. Yeah, no, downhill to
• 2:40:56
  men. And and I'm looking at it and I'm thinking, and you know,
• 2:41:00
  okay, so why would men try? Right? I mean, my
• 2:41:07
  husband he tried. And now we're in a good place. We're in a
• 2:41:15
  good situation, right, But why would men try? And part of the
• 2:41:18
  reason my husband is in a good situation is because he put the fact that
• 2:41:22
  he was made te on his application form to this job that he has,
• 2:41:26
  right, So he's he's a he's an oppressed minority. Right. We figured
• 2:41:35
  out a way to just kind of slip it in there, and and he
• 2:41:39
  was snapped up like that, okay. And it's like, well, don't
• 2:41:46
  hate the player, right, I guess hate the game. But you're looking
• 2:41:52
  at a situation where it's just like, no, you have a situation where
• 2:41:56
  women are getting promoted above men. Men aren't allowed to complain because that would
• 2:42:01
  be discrimination against women and harassment of women, and you know, hate speech
• 2:42:05
  and and all of that. And you know, but you're you're intentionally devaluing
• 2:42:11
  men in the eyes of women. And then you're telling women that they're still
• 2:42:18
  oppressed, right, And I'm just like, okay, well, you know
• 2:42:24
  that that's a pretty big external locus of control. Okay, so you artificially
• 2:42:33
  pushed down men to elevate women. Like, so, not only are you
• 2:42:39
  getting a situation where you're basically destroying the meritocracy m hm, you're also promoting
• 2:42:48
  women into positions where more and more men are beneath them and unmarriageable. Yep.
• 2:42:54
  It's like it's could we like be screwing ourselves over anymore? Like,
• 2:42:58
  can we feel more screwing in somewhere? Oh, I'm sure we could.
• 2:43:03
  I'm sure we will. All right, let's free Brian, Let's free the
• 2:43:07
  doge, free the do what do you want me to do? I'm gonna
• 2:43:11
  I'm gonna do the final stuff here, all right? All right? Do
• 2:43:15
  you have a you have any commentary? I do, No, No.
• 2:43:18
  I think we addressed it, okay, And I think that it's interesting that,
• 2:43:22
  you know, we're not talking about women's locus of control, but whatever,
• 2:43:24
  right, that's always left out. You know, it's like the flip
• 2:43:28
  side of the you know, when we talk about like the Middle East,
• 2:43:31
  for example, and we're looking at, oh, look at how bad the
• 2:43:33
  women have it, and we can't measure that because we don't look at the
• 2:43:35
  situation for men. So this is the same thing. We're just inverting the
• 2:43:39
  responsibility. Oh, look at what men aren't doing. What's the situations where
• 2:43:41
  women? I don't know, that's not important. It's just that So Alexander,
• 2:43:46
  you're I don't know how you're a dating coach at all. You don't
• 2:43:48
  even want to talk about women. Apparently, I don't know how he's a
• 2:43:52
  psychologist at all. Like a guy who's un like, unabashedly just saying,
• 2:44:00
  yeah, why don't you change your personality traits? They're duders, like are
• 2:44:05
  you a freaking psychologist? Are Do you realize that that takes? And also
• 2:44:13
  just being so glib about anxiety, do you realize that anxiety is actually pretty
• 2:44:18
  difficult to shift and expecting fundamentally men to change their personality when we actually do
• 2:44:26
  need men who are more risk adverse and more conscientious. You know, these
• 2:44:33
  are our scientific and artistic geniuses. These are our men who keep the lights
• 2:44:37
  on because they're conscientiously coming to work every fricking day to do the work right.
• 2:44:45
  We don't we don't need an entire society of dark triad men who can
• 2:44:50
  lie really well to women. That that would be horrifying. All right,
• 2:44:56
  Maybe the women would love it, despite you know, the increase in sexual
• 2:45:01
  violence. But yeah, it's just not really tenable because what are we seeing.
• 2:45:05
  What is that going to be? That's going to be society entirely comprised
• 2:45:09
  of Genghis Khns. Except Genghis Khan was probably more pro social than a lot
• 2:45:13
  of these men, all right, he liked his mom. He wanted to
• 2:45:20
  create a functional society out of a lot of other people's societies. But you
• 2:45:26
  know, still, so anyway, I think that this guy is over selling
• 2:45:31
  himself and his expertise, and he still hasn't given me a damn reference to
• 2:45:37
  this information that he's presenting on Twitter. But anyway, again, let's free
• 2:45:43
  the doge. So if you want, did you have any final words,
• 2:45:48
  Karen, I'll give you like two seconds, all right, if you would
• 2:45:52
  like to send us a message after the show is over, if you enjoyed
• 2:45:54
  the show and you just want to give us a tip. I want to
• 2:45:58
  say, hey, you're not screaming into the void. We really like your
• 2:46:01
  approach, the fact that you actually challenge people on their inability to hold women
• 2:46:05
  to any kind of account and just give men a break, like there has
• 2:46:09
  to be you know how is it possible that half the human race has absolutely
• 2:46:13
  no functional responsibility for the creation of the society that sustains it, like none
• 2:46:20
  whatsoever. Because that's where we're at here, folks. Women have no responsibility
• 2:46:24
  ever, even though they're half the human race, the half that gives birth,
• 2:46:28
  the half that raises children up until the age of eighteen. At this
• 2:46:33
  point, you know, the people primary responsible for laying down the emotional habits
• 2:46:39
  that a society runs on. Oh, they have no responsibility for any of
• 2:46:43
  this, right, good lord, All right, that's where we're at,
• 2:46:50
  and it's ridiculous. We can't keep doing this because it's dysfunctional. Anyway,
• 2:46:54
  if you want to tell us, yeah, no, you're not just screaming
• 2:46:56
  into the void. We appreciate what you have to say. Feed the Badger,
• 2:46:58
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• 2:47:03
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• 2:47:07
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• 2:47:11
  guess a more fun shall we say, format of fiction at Feedbadger dot com
• 2:47:18
  Slash support and nobody has said anything, so I guess I'm doing the right
• 2:47:24
  thing. I'm I'm good, I'm good, Karen's good. Brian, Okay,
• 2:47:33
  then back to you Brian. All right. Well, if you guys
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• 2:47:43
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• 2:47:46
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• 2:47:50
  like minute, it's literally like a minute of Lauren was mostly reasonable, Sabbi,
• 2:48:00
  she got blind spots. But I think this guy, yeah, she's
• 2:48:03
  she's giving a little too many props to him, and she's not again,
• 2:48:07
  she's not looking at the situation for women. He's not looking at the situation
• 2:48:13
  for women. So without if you don't address it, it's not gonna get
• 2:48:18
  better. It's just gonna keep going anyway, Thanks so much for coming on
• 2:48:22
  the show. Please like, share, subscribe, comment, and I think
• 2:48:26
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• 2:48:28
  video. I guess I'll see you Friday.