Latest / The Courtroom Files / March 12 Court Hearings: Judge Boyd, Simpson, Middleton + More | TCF Podcast #248
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- 0:01Good morning everybody. Happy Thursday, welcome to TCF
- 0:04live. It is a very, very quiet start
- 0:07to the morning in Courtland. Yes.
- 0:09So I'm actually gonna start us with judge Middleton and a
- 0:12sentencing that he did yesterday.
- 0:15So we're gonna start in the way back machine, but you'll notice
- 0:18it's paused. Because before we go there, I
- 0:20want to show you something. You have been requesting it
- 0:23yesterday in the fit of rage of fixing everything.
- 0:27I made it happen. Ladies and gentlemen, the Ellie
- 0:30cam you'll notice she's currently sleeping in the bed
- 0:33down on the floor. So we can check in, on her from
- 0:36time to time. Now, the Ellie cam And yeah, she
- 0:40just moved. So you know what's live?
- 0:43Okie dokie. Let's get going judgment
- 0:45Middleton. Good morning.
- 0:51This is the time and the date for sentence about the better
- 0:56people or just Carl David Lockhart.
- 0:59File number is 26147 FY, are you Carla Lockhart?
- 1:04But I need to identify for the record.
- 1:08You're here with your lawyer, his Rhonda Ives Also president
- 1:13Matthew Huff from the probation department Abigail Stoll from
- 1:17the probation and from the prosecutor's office.
- 1:21This matter is complicated, the defendant was charged with
- 1:26domestic violence as a felony, third offense, or subsequent
- 1:30offense. It was reduced to domestic
- 1:31violence. Second offense and was scheduled
- 1:35for sentencing today, he pled guilty to Devi's, second on
- 1:39February 7th, The defendant is on probation to judge,
- 1:45Pattinson. In a malicious destruction of
- 1:50property case I believe is the underlying charge.
- 1:54For 24 months and filed 251367. This plea violates the probation
- 2:03in the underlying case and I believe we've discussed that at
- 2:07the time of the police. Mr. Lockhart, do you understand
- 2:11this? Plea would be a violation of
- 2:14your probation in the early probation, that was from
- 2:17December. Being convicted of an offence a
- 2:22criminal offense. While you're on probation is a
- 2:24quintessential violation of probation to understand that.
- 2:31And you're willing to proceed with sentence here today.
- 2:34Yes, sir. All right, now, let me give a
- 2:39little background and some disclosure here, I have
- 2:42exchanged emails and discussions with Mr. Hall, and stopped in
- 2:48this morning, to talk to me. Neither Council was present.
- 2:55We reviewed his probation stat of probation or status report
- 3:00and he has two incident reports from the jail.
- 3:05Rhonda do you have copies of those?
- 3:06I do not. I don't know who prepared them,
- 3:10but no one. I don't know.
- 3:12One sometimes to me. Well, I was just handed them a
- 3:15minute ago. Abigail, would you give these
- 3:20two Lord Frank. Lester.
- 3:29Heart is also been heavily involved in Mr. Lockhart as well
- 3:33as Tony are victim, I mean our better veterans coordinator.
- 3:40And we've run up, good answers. Know.
- 3:46Is it doing that thing again? Just a minute.
- 3:52Rhonda, tap your microphone. It's been doing a thing.
- 4:03We're just locks on me. We've got to put it on overall.
- 4:12Buy that at any rate. The defendant is presently on a
- 4:22probation to judge Patterson. He was. an earlier domestic
- 4:29violence were they attempted to get him into a Aftercare
- 4:35treatment program, but the defendant did 93 days rather
- 4:39than enter the program. Then he was placed on that
- 4:43probation and after he was released, he got arrested on
- 4:47this offense on January 29th. He has been in custody since
- 4:52January 29th. And the matter I think has 41
- 4:58days of jail Credit. In this case, Defendant is on
- 5:03Arianna probation to just Patterson.
- 5:06And when this case is completed, will probably be subject to a
- 5:12probation violation. And attempt to find a solution.
- 5:16This is a troubling case. In that it's the least the
- 5:21defense, third assaultive case. It was a serious assault on a
- 5:27complaint. Exclusive. and, It isn't the
- 5:36first one, I had one back in 2022.
- 5:40Mr. Lockhart is an intelligent, man.
- 5:44When I see him, he's always calm the two incident reports that
- 5:50Matt provided for whatever they're worth indicate that he's
- 5:54continued to be involved in a salted Behavior at the jail as
- 5:59recently as earlier in the month of March so, he is a Defend it
- 6:09without a clear solution. but, People are looking for one and I
- 6:19commend them for that. Besides, what would you like me
- 6:24to know? Man, worries reprogrammed has a
- 6:34new set of goals, and new outlook on late life.
- 6:39With skills, to address his substance abuse disorder.
- 6:44His own mental. Diagnosis which I will not stay
- 6:51on the record but the court certainly has the report in
- 6:54front of him or in front of you. You're honor so I think that he
- 7:00needs to be cognizant of all of these things that have impacted
- 7:03his life or the recidivism on this from Mr. Lockhart is, it's
- 7:09just not going to end. I just can see.
- 7:12I'm continually back before you're on or I was part of the
- 7:16case with judge, Patterson. I had been representing Mr.
- 7:20Lockhart up through the final sentencing and which she had I
- 7:25think attorney hardened took over at the sentencing because
- 7:28she had another file with Mr. Lockhart as well.
- 7:31So she completed that file but there's just I think giving him
- 7:38a six-month jail sentence. Doesn't necessarily help us at
- 7:41this point. He needs a program.
- 7:43He needs a plan. And that's what I would add.
- 7:48I know he's interested in and treatment.
- 7:51He has been, he has indicated a willingness to go.
- 7:54He was indicated a willingness to go on our last case.
- 7:58Here's the problem. He got released.
- 8:02And once released reverted back to whatever he had been involved
- 8:08with. And so here we are again, thank
- 8:11you. Well George, Patterson and tried
- 8:13to Fashion a sentence that he couldn't get out.
- 8:16He had to go directly from jail to treatment but somehow The
- 8:22maximum was served, minus good time or something, and he got
- 8:26out and then here we are. Again.
- 8:31Mr. Huff and I, for what it's worth.
- 8:33Don't disagree with what you just said, easy thing to do with
- 8:37just give him 3, 6 5, I'll be retired by the time he gets out
- 8:44and it'll be somebody else's problem. but, I'm afraid he's
- 8:58going to kill somebody. Or seriously hurt them. and I
- 9:04don't want to throw in the towel, I want to have some sort
- 9:07of a treatment option. Rather than just give up.
- 9:16Ms, stole you've inherited. This difficult case.
- 9:20You have any input here. Well, Matt has a really good
- 9:31handle on this part of the problem.
- 9:34Mr. Lockard is. Some of your cases have been
- 9:37with me and some of them have been the judge Patterson.
- 9:40At some time, just how things are assigned.
- 9:43I have dealt with you back on Rock River Avenue and 22 maybe
- 9:48another case after that. I think I don't remember if I
- 9:53had the drinking driving case, you're just Patterson dead.
- 9:56So you're on a probation right now and file 251367 for 24
- 10:02months, that is a one year probation.
- 10:06I mean, one year, maximum sentence, So, I don't need to
- 10:11put you on another probation. You're already on one. and
- 10:15you've got about 270 days or so left in the one year sentence,
- 10:24Mr. Huff, you've got more insight maybe than anyone you've
- 10:29had a number of conversations or Lockhart.
- 10:31You did a presence report and the previous case you've been
- 10:36tracking this, you found the incidents from the jail.
- 10:39What's your input here? Well, you're on.
- 10:43I've been as Iris and of course we've all had some issue with
- 10:48Mr. Lockhart here. I feel like I've probably been
- 10:51his biggest Advocate over the last six years.
- 10:54He's been coming into contact with the courts with new cases
- 10:59and I tried to work with in the past, on meeting rehabilitated
- 11:05goals. And unfortunately, we're moving
- 11:08in the wrong direction here. I'm very concerned that he had
- 11:14this new domestic violence within basically a month of
- 11:17being released the same individual, and it was a bad
- 11:21one. It's a bad case.
- 11:25I'm concerned about the jail reports that I found out that
- 11:28this was going on in jail. I don't know the context, I
- 11:32don't know if someone's calling them names, I don't know if
- 11:34somebody's hitting it first. They reviewed the footage and
- 11:37they say that Mr. Lockhart was the aggressor?
- 11:39I don't know. I don't.
- 11:41That would that be said, I don't know that I'm right.
- 11:43I just pulled a plug. This might be about as close as
- 11:47we can possibly get before the. There's just no consideration
- 11:50for probation anymore. but, if the courts and climb to give
- 11:56them a jail sentence here, And he serves that jail sentence
- 12:00without any sort of issue I would not, I would not object to
- 12:07his probation, continuing on the other file, and then maybe we
- 12:11can get a connected to some long-term rehab.
- 12:14If he does that, maybe he can get his life turned around, he's
- 12:17gonna have to come to terms with the fact.
- 12:19These going to be separated from his local environment from the
- 12:22people, he knows and loves, and he's going to have to just go
- 12:25out on a limb, take a step up a base being an uncomfortable
- 12:28environment, and and take full advantage of the biggest
- 12:31concern. I have right now.
- 12:32If you were to be placed in a rehab center, a special one that
- 12:36is a relatively new resource for us that Guiding Light and Grand
- 12:39Rapids, is it? He's not ready to do that sort
- 12:42of stuff, as indicated by these General reports.
- 12:47We don't want to send them up there and then have that
- 12:50resource go away because we're sending bad referrals that are
- 12:52just causing problems. So that's its a concern.
- 12:55I don't know if that's what's going to be on, but it's just
- 12:57some of the things that factor into the into the equation that
- 13:00I think is worthwhile mentioning.
- 13:01But yeah, I mean ultimately, I'm not.
- 13:05This is a bad case that deserves some sort of a consequence.
- 13:07I'm I'm inclined to work with them.
- 13:09If you can kind of clean up his act in the near future, he has
- 13:14the pending probation violation. That will be scheduled and I
- 13:19think that's all that. I have to offer the course
- 13:21today. All right, you may good point.
- 13:25We're always looking for Placements, as Frank and others.
- 13:31We've got a good working relationship with a number of
- 13:35places Bear River. Some others.
- 13:37I don't want to burn the bridge if we send Mr. Lockhart up there
- 13:41and they Spectacularly fails. They might not take anybody else
- 13:47from our County. I'd like to thank that.
- 13:51He would go there and be successful.
- 13:55Mr. Lockhart And there's a lot going on here.
- 14:00There's PTSD. there's probably a bipolar disorder or other mental
- 14:06health issues and earlier didn't really want to go into all of it
- 14:10but Also, there's methamphetamine.
- 14:13Which it's hard sometimes to tell methamphetamine from mental
- 14:18illness and methamphetamine can trigger mental illness.
- 14:22And I think methamphetamines been in your background for a
- 14:25long time. and you throw an opioids, you were dealing in
- 14:29heroin and that didn't hopefully stick.
- 14:34But you got a lot of anger. You want to angry at guys?
- 14:37I've seen it in a while. So, what I see you, and when
- 14:46Matt talks to you you're intelligent measured.
- 14:50You accept responsibility and all this stuff.
- 14:53I don't think you've denied any of it.
- 14:55Even this most recent one you acknowledge of punched her in
- 14:58the face so you've accepted it ownership of it.
- 15:04But what do you want? You're on a treadmill that never
- 15:07turns off? So what would you like to tell
- 15:12me? Honestly I was thinking to just
- 15:18getting light was going to be pretty much my last effort in
- 15:20anything I transfer substance. Abuse counseling treatment
- 15:23Mental Health. I mean, the program at the end
- 15:27of it was even gonna help out with my housing.
- 15:29Yeah, unemployment. Yeah.
- 15:34Pretty good. I mean I've been dabbling in the
- 15:37Bible since I've been in jail and it was even Christian based
- 15:41I just want to be a daddy, you know, right through all this.
- 15:44I'd like to just be able to go back to boring, to be able to
- 15:47set up my couch and play video games and watch my kids like I
- 15:52don't want to be this. In and out of jail.
- 15:55Having my mom come here and seeing you do this whole time.
- 15:59Hello, those two playing video games and watching kids are not
- 16:02too compatible hockey. But whatever place a little bit
- 16:06so yeah. Well.
- 16:12Center Point is not a dead issue.
- 16:17One concern I had is if I use them all of Judge, Patterson's
- 16:22jail time, He doesn't have. Much time to work with.
- 16:30I think the way Matt and I calculated this, when I was
- 16:34thinking about my sense, he'll have at least 180 days or so to
- 16:39deal with. I'm going to order 90 days
- 16:43credit 41. That leaves 49 days to do, minus
- 16:51good time. In the meantime, this
- 16:54conviction, violates your probation.
- 16:56Mr. Office is going to file a professional violation petition.
- 17:00Then judge Patterson can see you at the end of this next 40 days
- 17:06or so, make a determination, whether presidential placement.
- 17:10Would be appropriate with. Jail home over the top of your
- 17:15head. So there's no sense for me to do
- 17:18another probation. I'm struggling with this since
- 17:22last week till I finally understood the whole
- 17:26ramifications of probationary on.
- 17:29So the fine is 0. I'm always the attorney fees as
- 17:34well. There's 125 dollars of minimum.
- 17:38Costs. Are two additional days.
- 17:43So 49 days, minus good time. Is approximately 40 or 42?
- 17:52Or so, that's certainly enough. Time to file the probation
- 17:55violation petition. Bring the matter back before,
- 17:59judge Patterson, Lauren at the jail is still plugged into this.
- 18:04This gives her 40 days probably gonna sell you do it the jail.
- 18:09I didn't like reading those reports.
- 18:11You can keep them. But one of them, they say you
- 18:15were bullying. Somebody else.
- 18:16And you were the aggressor and last very long on a residential
- 18:20treatment program that mindset And at some point if one of
- 18:27these happens, again, the prosecutors are not going to
- 18:29reduce it to a misdemeanor, they're going to hold the line
- 18:32and they're going to send you to prison.
- 18:37You want to be a dad and I think that would be best for all
- 18:40concerned. Do you care?
- 18:52Matt, whether he sees those reports I don't know if he's
- 18:54entitled to have those or not. I don't know.
- 18:56Because I mean I don't have any objection to it, he's gonna see
- 18:59them the eventually. I don't know if the jail has any
- 19:01policy on things that maybe the jail doesn't want them to have
- 19:05them but they allegations are that you can ask for them at the
- 19:08jail. Once you return them to Mr.
- 19:10Hoffman. You can share them with just
- 19:12Patterson and I will get a copy of them.
- 19:15Yeah, for you. I don't know.
- 19:19I, I don't even filed updated yet.
- 19:26Oh, I don't know, I'll be appointed or not.
- 19:31Jordan was on the sentence, in that case, I can get you. yeah,
- 19:39I would like Rhonda before you. Leave.
- 19:45Mr. Lockhart, you're good to go. I hope you can get some calm
- 19:49time at the jail and they can get you into a treatment
- 19:52program. We could alter the course of
- 19:55history. One of your old clients, Mr. Oh,
- 20:00hi. All right everybody.
- 20:03Good morning once again, TCF live on a Thursday.
- 20:05Thank you all for joining me. I hope you're off to a good
- 20:08start with your day. Great granny a little while back
- 20:13in the chat. I've lost it now.
- 20:17Oh, here it is. It's a moral question before me.
- 20:20Should I find Joy watching someone else's misfortunes that?
- 20:24Get them into a YouTube courtroom?
- 20:27Nah, they should just have not done the crime.
- 20:29Well, it's interesting that you bring that up because tonight on
- 20:32sidebar right here on this channel we're going to kind of
- 20:35talk about that very thing, streaming, Justice, transparency
- 20:39or exploitation, you know, judge Boyd, lost her seat because her
- 20:44opponent in the primary called out the fact that she streams
- 20:49her court and how that's not fair and all that kind of stuff.
- 20:52There's soft and a lot of weirdness going on and a lot of
- 20:56strong opinions. So that's what we're going to
- 20:57talk about tonight on side by 8 p.m.
- 20:59Eastern 5 p.m. Pacific right here on this
- 21:01channel. So check that out.
- 21:02And for those of you just joining, we have a new feature
- 21:05this morning because it was requested a lot.
- 21:08Come on, where did you go? There it is the Ellie cam.
- 21:11So when she sleeping next to me, we can now see that.
- 21:16In in beautiful 1080p action. So that's your co-host.
- 21:21She's giving up on you and gone to bed.
- 21:25Okie dokie. Let's let's get out of the way
- 21:27back machine and do live. We'll go to Allegan County
- 21:32Michigan. This is judge us.
- 21:40At that time, the Prosecutors Office requested.
- 21:44We set this for sentencing at a later date for crime, victim,
- 21:48rights purposes. And it's Pure Blairsville with
- 21:53us. Mr. Blair is is Tina.
- 21:55Caldwell president at your office or she filed any impact
- 21:58statement? She has not been communicated.
- 22:01She does not want any restitution around.
- 22:05And reviewing the file. The original pretrial
- 22:08conference, she did not contain any specific recommendation for
- 22:11sentences. So with that, Mr. Coldwell, this
- 22:14is your chance, that something anything you would like to for
- 22:16yourself and sing this morning. No.
- 22:22I had nothing. This will be on behalf of Mr.
- 22:26Caldwell. Thank you.
- 22:29Your honor, Mr. Caldwell has a strong support system in his
- 22:32family that have been helping him through a lot recently.
- 22:34He's running a lot of time with his brother spending time, with
- 22:38his mother who's in her late seventies, helping her around
- 22:41the house, she is in the hospital today and he's going to
- 22:43be a big help for her when she gets out.
- 22:45We would request minimization of fines and costs as Mr. Caldwell
- 22:51is on disability for under several several reasons.
- 22:54Additionally, malicious destruction of personal property
- 22:58is not considered a serious misdemeanor under MCL 780.811
- 23:02and therefore, there is a presumption under MCL 769.5 of
- 23:07non-jail and non probation sentence for those charges.
- 23:10Thus, we would request finds and costs only in the matter and
- 23:13would request minimization of fines and costs due to Mr.
- 23:17Caldwell's limited financial situation.
- 23:19Thank you. I'm discharge is $200 core cost
- 23:23for two dollars, State cost and fees 125 dollars for a total of
- 23:27525. Quartile shows, you release the
- 23:31Allegan County Jail, on a $300, personal recognizance fund.
- 23:34So, all of that is due, we'll put that up for payment over the
- 23:38next three months. Of course, staff will mail to
- 23:41you a judgment of sentence which will indicate.
- 23:43Just what I said, they received a sentence of no jail, no
- 23:46probation fines cost only. No restitution was requested and
- 23:51those being ordered and you have 90 days three months to take
- 23:55care of the finds and costs with that, you are free to hang up on
- 23:59the court for City this morning, expecting that the male good.
- 24:02Luckily sir. Thank you.
- 24:03Thank you. Yes, I can hear you kind of
- 24:29figure out how to turn my camera on real quick. it's one second.
- 24:37Sorry about that. Okay.
- 24:41Is that on now? Okay, is it on now?
- 24:59America on three separate files on people versus Sky, Thomas,
- 25:03Kenyan filed, 254319 SD file, 25432, 0, s t and file 254335, s
- 25:16t. All three of these cases are on
- 25:19a single citation that was issued by the elegant County
- 25:22Sheriff's Department on charges of operating well in toxicated
- 25:26second offense. Driving, while his driver's
- 25:30license was suspended and having a plate on the vehicle.
- 25:35That was not. Sign to that vehicle by the
- 25:39Michigan. Secretary of State's office,
- 25:42pretrial conference was held in this case back on January 16th.
- 25:48At that time, the defendant entered, a plea of guilty to the
- 25:51charge of operating while intoxicated second offense in a
- 25:56plea of guilty to the charge of driving while his license was
- 25:59suspended and he entered a plea of guilty to the charge of
- 26:04having unlawful plate upon the motor vehicle.
- 26:06He was driving while suspended and unveiled influences. we
- 26:11viewing his criminal background, I ordered a presence
- 26:14investigation in this case, And a substance abuse assessment as
- 26:19required by law for the operating, while intoxicated
- 26:21second. Offense charged.
- 26:24Both of those have been completed so we are able to
- 26:27proceed to sentencing this morning.
- 26:29His Fogle regarding the presets investigation.
- 26:32Have you reviewed that with Mr? Kenny and if so any additions to
- 26:36lesions or corrections to it? No you're on her and we we have
- 26:41reviewed it and we have no Corrections.
- 26:43Thank you. The original pretrial
- 26:46conference. She did not contain any specific
- 26:48recommendations for sentence. So Mr. Kenyan, on all three of
- 26:53these cases operating while intoxicated second offense
- 26:56driving. While your license was suspended
- 26:58and having an improper plate upon the motor vehicle.
- 27:02You were driving, this is your chance to tell me anything you
- 27:05would like to for your sentencing.
- 27:08I think everything's been covered already that I need to
- 27:11know. Thank you.
- 27:13So well on behalf of Mr. Kenyan, processing this morning, Thank
- 27:17you, your honor at the time of this incident Sky had been
- 27:20unemployed for a period of time and was feeling very depressed
- 27:23and aimless. He had been drinking late at
- 27:26night and he was talking on the phone with a young woman who he
- 27:31was interested in who wanted him to come over.
- 27:33It was the first positive thing to happen in his life in a very
- 27:35long time and he reacted without thinking, just trying to chase
- 27:39that feeling, you know, he never should have left the house that
- 27:41day, sky has a very strong connection with his community in
- 27:45Mount Pleasant. He enlisted in the Navy for
- 27:46three and a half years immediately following high
- 27:48school but he returned home after finishing his military
- 27:51service and has lived there ever since he has a strong family
- 27:54support system, made up of his mother father and grandmother
- 27:57who all live in that area and his family gathers, every
- 28:00weekend for Family Sunday, dinner's Sky, shared that these
- 28:03dinners are alcohol free and listed his family, as his
- 28:06strongest support system, his 17 year old son, also lives, 10
- 28:09minutes away from him in Mount Pleasant, and sky has a strong
- 28:12relationship with his son, who stops by to see him almost every
- 28:15day. In terms of a substance use
- 28:17history sky, has shared that on his prior owis.
- 28:23His BAC was very close to a 0.08 in terms of both prior charges,
- 28:27which obviously is still above the legal limit.
- 28:30But was, you know, very close to that level Sky, reported that he
- 28:35used to drink regularly on the weekends and would drink
- 28:38approximately six per six beers per occasion, but did not have
- 28:42an increase intolerance or used over that time.
- 28:44He successfully completed probation in the past after his
- 28:47first OWI and States sober through the course of Probation.
- 28:51And for a short time after he also participated in a long-term
- 28:55residential treatment program about two years ago where he
- 28:58stayed for approximately 45 days, he has been very committed
- 29:02to to a sobriety. He's had setbacks but he has
- 29:05been committed to to getting better.
- 29:07This incident was a huge wake up, call for Sky.
- 29:09Since that day, he started going back to 8 meetings with his
- 29:13brother. Who's been sober for 16 months
- 29:15and a great support for sky and his own sobriety Journey.
- 29:18At this point, he has not consumed alcohol since this
- 29:21charge and is resolved to stop drinking going forward.
- 29:24He is currently attending AA meetings about three times per
- 29:27week with his brother who provides transportation and
- 29:30accountability for Sky. He now has 70 days of sobriety.
- 29:33He also has a very strong employment history following
- 29:38high school. As I said, he enlisted of the
- 29:40Navy, served three and a half years after that.
- 29:43He spent six years working on oil fields in North Carolina,
- 29:45Pennsylvania and West Virginia. While living in Michigan,
- 29:49traveling around to these various States for work.
- 29:51He also ran his own drywall business for at least six years,
- 29:54and successfully managed a staff of six employees, while also
- 29:57handling, the day-to-day operations of his business.
- 30:00He now does work full-time again with significant overtime
- 30:04opportunity at Robinson Industries as an extrusion
- 30:07operator, which is a position position.
- 30:09He has held for about two months now and really enjoys.
- 30:12He works full-time as I Said and often worked over time, choosing
- 30:16to work extra hours on Saturdays and Sundays to save up extra
- 30:19money to move into his own apartment right now.
- 30:21He is still living with the he is living with his mother was a
- 30:24great support system for him, as I said, but he is excited for
- 30:28the chance to live on his own and take further control of his
- 30:30life. This job and his sobriety have
- 30:33given Sky A Renewed sense of purpose and pride and he is
- 30:36motivated by the great feeling of A Hard Day's work that he
- 30:38missed while he was unemployed and by his desire to be a
- 30:41positive role model for his 17 year old son.
- 30:43Finally, your honor driving while license suspended,
- 30:46revoked, or denied and unlawful use of license plate are not
- 30:49considered serious misdemeanors under MCL 780.811 and therefore,
- 30:53there is a presumption under MCL 769.5 of non-jail and non
- 30:58probation sentence for those charges.
- 31:00Thus under files 254335, s t, and 2543220 we would request
- 31:07finds and costs only in the matter for file 254319 SD in
- 31:13which sky is pled guilty to operating while intoxicated
- 31:15second offense. We would request the court.
- 31:18Impose. No more than the minimum
- 31:19required, five days of jail and that the court allow Sky to
- 31:22serve the minimum five days jail associated with this charge,
- 31:25through the weekend community service programs.
- 31:28So that sky is able to keep his job with Robinson Industries and
- 31:30continue. On a positive track.
- 31:32Thank you, honor. So Canyon as you probably know
- 31:38best you should be in Circuit Court being sent for a felony
- 31:42charge. Right now this is your third
- 31:44drinking and driving conviction and you're still here in
- 31:47District Court on a misdemeanor charge. the presents
- 31:51investigation shows you have a prior conviction for operating
- 31:54while intoxicated and the Have the court here any longer but in
- 31:592017 a second conviction in 2022, this arrest was in 2025.
- 32:07So within an eight-year span, you had three arrests for
- 32:11drinking and driving. Offenses, for whatever reason,
- 32:14the officer, in this case, didn't catch that she wrote this
- 32:18as a misdemeanor for a second offense, the prosecuting
- 32:23attorney's office either. It didn't catch it or shows not
- 32:26to charge you as a felon. But again, you have three
- 32:32convictions Now with an eight-year span three in your
- 32:35life time for drinking and driving as a felony and for
- 32:38whatever reason, you're here being sentenced on a misdemeanor
- 32:42charge. So sir, you are now in a very,
- 32:45very, very, very small group of people here in Michigan, who
- 32:48have three or more drinking and driving convictions on their
- 32:51record, At the time you couldn't drive it off.
- 32:55As soon as you got behind the wheel period, you were breaking
- 32:59the law because your driver's license was suspended the car.
- 33:03You were driving wasn't a street legal either.
- 33:06So vehicle wasn't legal, you were legal to drive it and you
- 33:10drove the third time, wrong reviewing the presets and
- 33:15investigation. Again, it shows the same things
- 33:18I just mentioned and operating while impaired conviction. 2017
- 33:22and operating, while intoxicated second offense, conviction, in
- 33:262022, possession of methamphetamine in 2023.
- 33:30Open, alcohol in a motor vehicle 23, a domestic violence.
- 33:35Conviction in 22, a second domestic.
- 33:38Violence kicked conviction in 25.
- 33:41And three unrelated misdemeanors for two of them for plate.
- 33:46Violations, such as you have here, and not having insurance
- 33:50on the motor vehicle. You have a prior conviction for
- 33:54a felony 7 prior misdemeanor convictions prior to this and
- 33:59now pick up three more. So you'll now have a total of 10
- 34:03misdemeanor convictions you've been on probation, it looks like
- 34:08over and over again. You were on probation in the
- 34:1275th district court in Midland. You were in probation to the
- 34:1676th district court in Isabella County again, on probation to
- 34:23the Isabella Circuit Court District Court.
- 34:25Looks like on your felony charge.
- 34:28You are on probation to the 21st Circuit Court.
- 34:32A couple of these were successful.
- 34:35One was revoked. So you've had a lot of
- 34:40government assistance, trying to take care of your looks like,
- 34:43bold, drug and alcohol problems. again, on this case, You have
- 34:56now a felony and 10 misdemeanor convictions.
- 35:00This is your third drinking and driving conviction.
- 35:03Again at the time you had no right to drive it all because
- 35:05your license was suspended. You live up in Mount Pleasant.
- 35:09I don't know what happened here. Only you do.
- 35:12It sounds like you got a call from somebody decided to come to
- 35:15Allegan County for Mount Pleasant.
- 35:17But I've just heard any event you were arrested on Christmas
- 35:22Day at. 3:45 in the morning here in Allegheny County and arrested
- 35:26on your third drinking and driving a fence sir, given your
- 35:30record, giving all the chances you've had before on probation
- 35:34and now have a third conviction for the very same thing.
- 35:39Here in County, clearly, you are a public safety risk because you
- 35:45can continue to drink and drive after having that type of a
- 35:49record and having all the services that have been
- 35:51provided. That sounds like all the things
- 35:54you've gone through on your own on.
- 35:56South of that doesn't sound like you're able to not drive after
- 36:01drinking which is all I'm concerned with the drug and
- 36:04alcohol use is between you and your own body.
- 36:06But when they get behind the wheel, And drive from Mount
- 36:10Pleasant down to Allegan, then it becomes a public safety risk
- 36:13and a public safety issue. so on this charge of operating, well,
- 36:18let's take it this way to try to be easier are the charge of
- 36:21driving while your license was suspended first On that chart,
- 36:25we'll post a sentence of fines and costs only on the charge of
- 36:29driving. While your license was suspended
- 36:31to find his court cost or two hundred dollars they cost and
- 36:35fees are 125 dollars for a total of 525.
- 36:40We'll put that out for payments over the next three months on
- 36:45the charge of having an unlawful plate.
- 36:48Upon the motor vehicle. You were driving while suspended
- 36:51Supply in Cross only on that shares.
- 36:56They are set of 195 dollars will also put that out for payment
- 37:01over the next three months charge of operating Wallace.
- 37:06Hawks located. Second offense will place you on
- 37:09probation for a period of two years and that will be with
- 37:13substance abuse counseling as directed by the probation
- 37:17department, standard condition of probation on those charge is
- 37:21that you're not possessed. Or consume any alcohol marijuana
- 37:26or legal Controlled Substances. Other than those prescribed to
- 37:29you, by a medical professional. They will have the authority to
- 37:32check you for that here at the probation department.
- 37:35Have you checked by the police at your home?
- 37:38And for the reasons as already stated on the record, I'm going
- 37:42to order a physical monitoring for alcohol.
- 37:44Consumption for the first month of the probationary period
- 37:48utilizing either scram or soberlink at the discretion of
- 37:51the probation department on this, charts, all require
- 37:55attendance at a Victim Impact Panel Your driver's license
- 38:00either is or soon will be gone for the next year because of
- 38:05your convictions. Specific condition of your
- 38:07probation is that you not operate a motor vehicle until
- 38:10you obtain a valid license to do.
- 38:12So from the Michigan Secretary of State's office.
- 38:15So, driving while on probation at all, would be a violation of
- 38:19your probation. The charge of operating while
- 38:22intoxicated second offense. The fine is 1,000 square cost
- 38:26her $400 State costs and fees are 125 dollars.
- 38:30There was a 720 oversight fee for that term of Probation and a
- 38:35100 dollar fee for the substance abuse assessment that was done
- 38:39for the court, for a total of 2000 and 345 dollars.
- 38:44Portfolio shows on the misdemeanor charge who released
- 38:46on a 500.00 personal recognizance Bond.
- 38:50So all of that is due. You will have the entire time on
- 38:53probation to pay that amount on a monthly payment plan set up
- 38:57through the probation. Department in charge of
- 39:00operating well on Fox located second offense and vehicle.
- 39:03A mobilization is mandatory we checked.
- 39:06There was no record according to the Secretary of State's office
- 39:10of the vehicle. You were driving which again
- 39:12just means you were driving a vehicle that wasn't street legal
- 39:15but we don't have any idea who the title owner of it was so
- 39:19accordingly in a mobilization order cannot be answered on this
- 39:24case. Probably Mr. Kenny, for the
- 39:26reasons has already stated on the record, I'm posing a jail
- 39:29term of 60 days in the Allegan County Jail.
- 39:31I'm showing credit for one day already served needs to report
- 39:35to the elegant County, Jail by next Friday, March 20th of this
- 39:39year at 3:00 in the afternoon. Or after that time events will
- 39:44be issued for your arrest. Will indicate that I have no
- 39:47objection to Mr. Kenyan. Having Work Release.
- 39:50If he qualifies out of the jails work release program.
- 39:53I'll also ask the probation department to set this for an
- 39:57internal review. The following Monday, March 23rd
- 40:01to verify that he's in custody at the Elegance jail on that
- 40:05date. Finally asked your probationary
- 40:08sentence report to advise you pursue the MCL 771.2.
- 40:12The URL eligible to be discharged at the halfway point
- 40:16of your probationary sentence. If you have completed all the
- 40:19terms and conditions of your probationary sentence at that
- 40:23time. So in your case, probation could
- 40:25be concluded in assume as one year sending your files on to
- 40:30our probation department at best time.
- 40:32They're going to contact you on the telephone to set up your
- 40:35probation order. What telephone number, can they
- 40:38reach you at this morning? A 989. so, in 9899, You are free
- 40:56to hang up from the court proceeding.
- 40:58Be available at the telephone number.
- 41:00You just gave us the probation. Department will contact you at
- 41:03that number shortly. Good luck to you sir.
- 41:05Thank you. Miss Pogo.
- 41:06Thank you. Once again, everybody.
- 41:10Good morning TCF live. It's Thursday Barbara.
- 41:13Thank you for the five dollar. Super Chat and thank you for
- 41:16gifting the five memberships. You say, Dan, glad he got things
- 41:21fixed, Dan is glad to I hate missing days, especially because
- 41:25of tech, but I've totally redone, everything, wrote some
- 41:28custom scripting, and we should have no further issues of that
- 41:32kind. Anyways, going forward, but I'm
- 41:34sure something else will break because that's how this goes.
- 41:39Let's change things up. We'll stay in Michigan.
- 41:41Let's go see what's going on with Brian Oakley. she's,
- 41:50Council zero blood test result in here somewhere.
- 41:54Yes. But all right, based on that.
- 41:58Hey. James yes, back accounts on that
- 42:01blood test result and what I've read in the report I can accept
- 42:04the plea to the Imperial driving charge.
- 42:05I will dismiss the original charge of intoxicated driving
- 42:08and the accompanying civil infraction.
- 42:12We've already got you on a personal Bond, I'll continue
- 42:14Bond, send you down stairs, to make an appointment with the
- 42:16probation department, and then we'll see each other.
- 42:18I don't know, four or five weeks.
- 42:19The three of us will talk about that report questions.
- 42:23Counseling, anything else? You have a great day.
- 42:28Name. Got it right in front of me
- 42:33Wallace. Do I need a prosecutor for this
- 42:37one? Do I need a prosecutor?
- 42:45Are we ready on will afford? Strata ready?
- 42:51Good morning Council, your appearance for Miss Miller Ford.
- 42:53Good morning Anna. Belcher on behalf.
- 42:56The defendant sir. Please state your name for the
- 42:57record. Good morning in the morning, I
- 42:59will first Good morning Council. What do we got here?
- 43:02We have a girl wild license, not valid, that was in warrant
- 43:07status. I'm asking for the warrant to be
- 43:09recalled. My client is in the process of
- 43:11trying to take care of his outstanding tickets so that he
- 43:15can potentially resolve this with a plea.
- 43:17I'm requesting another pre-trial date.
- 43:23Okay, so the playroom and I've got for guilty plea is going out
- 43:25the window. Yeah.
- 43:27Judge they they want him to plead as charged, our hope is
- 43:30and he's paid. I believe he said around 20
- 43:32years, you had me. Hello, I'm just confused by the
- 43:34paperwork. I'm looking at Leah is already.
- 43:41And I see that David Judge, Martin.
- 43:42All right, April. 23rd. What time?
- 43:44I'm sorry. Not That's a zoo.
- 43:48All right, you got that Mr. Wheeler for yes, sir.
- 43:53All right. We'll mail you a notice Council
- 43:55anything else today. No, not on this matter.
- 43:58Thank you. You're welcome.
- 43:59Thank you. Yes, you owe us money.
- 44:04I know. Are you working?
- 44:07No, not at the moment. When's the last time you worked
- 44:10last week? I'm going to return it back to
- 44:13work. I just got out of jail so that's
- 44:15why I'm not working. Okay, can you commit to some
- 44:17kind of regular payments, either weekly biweekly or monthly?
- 44:19Yes. Okay.
- 44:22How do you want to do it? How much, how often when can you
- 44:24start? Oh, by weekly.
- 44:26And I can start today or whenever You tell me today?
- 44:32How much? Well, I started over 100.
- 44:35You're sure a positive. All right, you're gonna do that
- 44:39online. Then, are you gonna come in I
- 44:41can either one. Say again, either one but I can
- 44:46do it online. However you want to do it.
- 44:48All right, I made a note, good luck.
- 44:50Thank you. Thank you.
- 45:05All right. What do we got today?
- 45:09Iran. I don't know that.
- 45:19I've seen the response. I don't think I've seen and it's
- 45:28not in the file. You have a copy if Let me have
- 45:33it. If you guys, if you guys just
- 45:35give me a few minutes, Yeah, sure.
- 45:40Let me, let me go through that and then we'll talk.
- 46:43System. But it.
- 46:57Pause in the action with judge Oakley.
- 47:00So let's go over to judge Simpson, he's just getting his
- 47:04day going. the right, is this the conflicts with and puts on
- 47:12the court, please hear all that or Corporates part.
- 47:16Also, there's not believe there's confidence in Michigan
- 47:19court. Rules are the cases decided,
- 47:20they're under two, they extended conflict.
- 47:22That's just giving away waivers to court will present here to
- 47:26manage. Court calls, the case of the
- 47:28people versus Evan Sherbert, we're going to be people.
- 47:34Good morning on assistant. Public defender was buckets for
- 47:36Mr. Schubert Who is a? Yes, sir.
- 47:41Can you state your name, please? And then Thank you.
- 47:46All right. I'm just pressing a German time
- 47:49to finish in negotiations with the people honor.
- 47:52And if are you, how long are you?
- 47:57It's going to be in the what are your Delta County?
- 48:01Delta County. It looks like he has a right
- 48:04now. It'll be till May 18th, but I'm
- 48:07hoping for earlier court date today, they extended out pretty
- 48:10far due to a different court case going up.
- 48:12But yeah, as of now, Said May, May 18th that okay?
- 48:20That's fine. It's March.
- 48:26Well. During the matter to April 9th.
- 48:37And we can get it resolved at that.
- 48:41That's 2026 timing. Thank you.
- 48:43Thank you. Thank you.
- 48:53For calls, okay. So the people versus aveanna
- 48:56Johnson And his people. Morning Hunter.
- 49:01Edward Ruka on Jensen. Okay?
- 49:05So Sarah, can you take your name?
- 49:08Johnson morning, young Like, thank you, sir.
- 49:12You gotta we've been a few different tactic with one more
- 49:15adjournment. We have wrap this up, I do.
- 49:17But communicate some additional offers to Mr. Johnson. if we,
- 49:23I'd asked for two weeks to Get the right probably cause
- 49:32conference and March 26th. 20269, a.m. thank you avianna.
- 49:40I have an appointment set up with you tomorrow.
- 49:43All right. All right.
- 49:45Thank you. People first Daniel Smith.
- 49:52Yes. And good morning.
- 49:55You're on our Lord. Jackie assistant public defender
- 49:57with and on behalf of Mr. Smith on in MDOC.
- 50:01But president he assumed Mr. Smith, could you say your name
- 50:04for the court? Daniel Scott Smith.
- 50:08All right, I have before me a play form.
- 50:10Is that what we're doing? Yes, sir.
- 50:13Play for me indicates that will be pleading.
- 50:19Guilty to two charges of use of a controlled substance both.
- 50:22One year offensive. those being counseling for upon his
- 50:26successful pleaded those churches counts one and two
- 50:28would be just That is a court will understanding of the
- 50:33agreements. Yes, that's the full
- 50:37understanding honor. We are going to request this
- 50:39part to consider same-day sentence, but it's not a part of
- 50:42the plea agreement. Well, why would I be kind of So
- 50:48he's incarcerated since 2023. This is an offense from
- 50:51September 2023. He's been he was arrested
- 50:55September 19th. So about a week and a half after
- 50:582023 has been in prison ever since and he's gonna lock in
- 51:03prison, he said in advance substance use Street and
- 51:05classes. They find.
- 51:06All right. So Smith, can you raise your
- 51:09right hand to be sworn? You not only swear or firm
- 51:13testimony about to give will be the truth.
- 51:15The whole truth and nothing but spiritual help you get Yes,
- 51:18you're honor. All right, state, your name.
- 51:21For the record. Daniel Scott Smith.
- 51:24Sir, this is quartz understanding that you're going
- 51:26to be pleading guilty to two Chargers of use of a controlled
- 51:29substance. Those are misdemeanors on by up
- 51:33to one year incarceration and a 2000 prime plus court costs.
- 51:37You understand that? Yes, your honour.
- 51:42You also understand that while I'm taking your play, I would
- 51:45not be your sentence judge and you would be sentenced before
- 51:47judge fresh hour and 14 Age 3 District Court, you understand
- 51:51that? Yes, your honour.
- 51:54All right. Still wish to plead guilty.
- 51:58Yeah, sure. To the charge of use of a
- 52:02control. Substances contained in count
- 52:03three, how do you plead? Guilty.
- 52:07To that same charge as contained in counter.
- 52:10How do you play? Guilty.
- 52:13You understand that by pleading guilty, you will not ever trial
- 52:16of any kind. Yes. all right, you signed your
- 52:20head cause to be signed on your behalf and advice of Rights for
- 52:25Yes, sure. You have any question regarding
- 52:28those rights? No, I do not you're on her. you
- 52:31understand that you're waving or giving up those rights,
- 52:34including the rights that are containing paragraph, five,
- 52:37those being your trial rights, Yes, sir.
- 52:40You understand you're giving up your right to appeal up, right?
- 52:43Yes, sir. Are you on probation or girl?
- 52:48I know not currently. All right, has anybody promised
- 52:52you anything other than what's been stated here today on the
- 52:54record to get you played? No, your honor.
- 52:57Anybody threaten you or coerce? Know, you're honor.
- 53:01You're doing this voluntarily and of your own free will.
- 53:05Yeah, sure. Because you believe that you are
- 53:09indeed guilty of these offenses. Yes, you're right.
- 53:14On the day, September 9th, 2023 location of Gregory Road
- 53:21Webster, Township, Washington County state of Michigan.
- 53:24Did you have cocaine in your possession?
- 53:27Yes, I did. You also have fentanyl in your
- 53:31possession. Yes, I did.
- 53:34You use both of those drugs? Yes, I did.
- 53:39All right, and you knew that you were using cocaine.
- 53:43Yes. And you knew that you were using
- 53:45Fentanyl. Yes.
- 53:48Right? So I do have to advise you that
- 53:51you could make this conduct between the time low.
- 53:54Like acceptance of your please and the time of sentencing.
- 53:57That it misconduct is defined in Michigan court rules you would
- 54:01not be entitled to withdraw your plea and the court would not be
- 54:05bound by setting. So, evaluation recommendation,
- 54:07you understand that sir? Yes, your honour.
- 54:11So, you're aware of any of the promises threats or other
- 54:13induced into led to this place? No, yes, you're right.
- 54:17Well, you're not aware of any other promises.
- 54:20Are you sir? No.
- 54:23Okay? And have I complied with the
- 54:25forward? Would it be proper job?
- 54:27Just please? Yes, sir.
- 54:29Well accepted please guilty to counseling for California,
- 54:33dismissed present and reporters, 1483.
- 54:37Probation sentencing will be April 6th 2020.
- 54:43Six nine a.m. before judge pressure.
- 54:46Bond working. Thank you, sir.
- 54:49Thank you. because of the people versus What mama do.
- 54:56Yellow people, Mr. Yahoo Are you there?
- 55:14Yeah, I'm here. Okay, that's just Mr. Office
- 55:20trying to Mr. Diablo, was unable to meet with him.
- 55:23We are requesting in a German and go over his case. which,
- 55:31federal prisons where I, All right, Mr. Gallo Yes.
- 55:41What state are you being held in?
- 55:44I'm FCI Cumberland in Maryland. In Maryland.
- 55:49Yeah. Peru.
- 55:50Yeah. And so you're trying to you're
- 55:55trying to get through to him, that's just right, that's just
- 55:59so let's do this. Sir, are you gonna be there in
- 56:05the month of April? You think?
- 56:07Yeah, I'm not going over. Okay.
- 56:10All right. And let me give you some time to
- 56:14try to get to know during this April 9th.
- 56:17Doesn't 26 190. Thank you Josh.
- 56:21Thank you. All right.
- 56:27Thank you. Thank you, too.
- 56:32For girls, case of the people vs, Jessica Englund.
- 56:40If this. defend the next bucket and pairing on happiness,
- 56:42angling, who is now approaching you, please state your name for
- 56:46the record when you approach just gonna call Anglin.
- 56:48All right, 52, plea forms. Is that what we're doing?
- 56:52That's correct. The honest.
- 56:53All right, in the case ending and 5007.
- 56:59It's just core to understanding that she's going to be leading.
- 57:02To an guilty to an added account to abuse of methamphetamine.
- 57:06The one year fence on a successful created that charge
- 57:09account one would be messed. And the and actually, on the
- 57:15other case ending in 5008. Also, pleading debt to that same
- 57:20chart with count one being dismissed.
- 57:22That's the Court's full. Understanding a bigger.
- 57:24Yes. I have heard more.
- 57:29Raise your hands weren't from the testimony about truth of
- 57:35God. Yes, sir.
- 57:36Thank you, Jessica. All right, man.
- 57:44He's just going to be leading. Guilty to charges of Memphis.
- 57:50Yes, sir. Those are punishable by one
- 57:54year, incarceration, of 2000 prime plus court costs, you
- 57:57understand that? Yes, sir.
- 57:59Understand that while I'm taking play, I would not be your
- 58:02sentencing judge. And in the case ending in 5007,
- 58:05that you'd be sentenced before judge Ferry and in the other
- 58:08case, you'd be sentenced before junkyard.
- 58:10You understand that? Yes.
- 58:12Still wish to be guilty. Yes, sir.
- 58:15All right. To the charge of
- 58:18methamphetamine, has contained in the case 5007.
- 58:25Kirk in January of this year, how do you?
- 58:30That same charge. Contains in case five zero zero,
- 58:35eight. Occurring.
- 58:37And Penn State English in October 2025?
- 58:45How do you understand that? My cleaning Yoki, you will not
- 58:49have a trial of any kind, yes, sir.
- 58:53Cause to be signed or did sign an advice of rice Farmers.
- 58:56That correct. The point I talked about with
- 58:58you, right? That asked.
- 58:59Yes, Question regarding any of those right?
- 59:02Yeah, please look on the pony, my paragraph five.
- 59:05You'll see a copy of that. Those are your rights are part
- 59:08of a trial, completing guilty. You'll be giving up those rights
- 59:11as well as all the rights are there for.
- 59:12Yes. And can you giving up your right
- 59:14to a plumber? Oh, yes.
- 59:17Are you on probation or parole? No, sir, anybody promised you
- 59:21anything? Other than what's been stated
- 59:22here today to get you to, please?
- 59:24No, sir anybody threaten you or course you know doing this
- 59:28voluntarily of your own free will and because you believe
- 59:32that you are indeed guilty. Yes Starting in case 505007 on
- 59:43the date of January 14th, 2026 at the location of 449. 2nd
- 59:48Street sea, man. Arbor Washington County state of
- 59:50Michigan. Did you have methamphetamine in
- 59:52your possession? Yes, no, not really, but yet
- 59:56about to use it, all right? And you knew what you had was
- 59:59methamphetamine, I guess. On. the date October 6th 2025
- 1:00:10location of Wisteria drive and City ran over Washington County
- 1:00:14state of Michigan Museum. Yes.
- 1:00:18Have you used it on that day? Yes, sir.
- 1:00:21All right. Could you you know what you had
- 1:00:23in your possession was? Yes, I'm looking at now, look at
- 1:00:29the higher churches. The actual charge in this case
- 1:00:33and accepted her plate. Man, I do have to advise you
- 1:00:36that if between the time of my acceptance of your clean time of
- 1:00:39sentencing, if you commit misconduct, is to find it in
- 1:00:42Michigan court. Rules, you would not be entitled
- 1:00:43to withdraw, your plea. And inject would not be found by
- 1:00:47any sentence evaluation of recommendation.
- 1:00:48You understand that? Yes, sir.
- 1:00:50All right, Council. Are you aware of any other
- 1:00:53promises threats or other inducements which have led to
- 1:00:56this place? Okay.
- 1:00:57No, yeah. And have I complied with the
- 1:01:00quote? That's fine.
- 1:01:01The fantastic. Court will accept the
- 1:01:03defendants, the guilty and both of these cases.
- 1:01:09Now, two count, two. how one is dismissed, he said investigation
- 1:01:16and report is ordered, and in case five zero zero, seven
- 1:01:20sentencing will be March 27th, 2026 8:30.
- 1:01:28Before Judge Perry. And any other matter.
- 1:01:36March 31st 2026 90, mm before judge car work.
- 1:01:46And will continue if you. Happy that I put the sense.
- 1:01:57because people versus she, and he's in Better morning, but for
- 1:02:05the people, Solo, can you stay? Loser turning.
- 1:02:11Yeah. Russian.
- 1:02:16Good morning, Runner. Oh, okay, there she is.
- 1:02:19All right. Good morning, Miss rushing.
- 1:02:23Point. Mr. Olive, can you state your
- 1:02:27name? Yeah, I live All right, to the
- 1:02:33podium on behalf of Olive and I'm saying for her attorney at
- 1:02:37record Mr. Brandon Ms. That's permission.
- 1:02:40Is that correctness. What did you say?
- 1:02:46Did you remember me from last week?
- 1:02:47Okay, yes. And you're on her.
- 1:02:51Um, I am Mr. Bird is remaining on one matter.
- 1:02:53I do know that there was a substitution in on one of the
- 1:02:56cases and it was adjourned. So, we're asking to adjourn this
- 1:02:59matter, to whatever date that PCC was sent to.
- 1:03:02I think it's going to be put two weeks out.
- 1:03:05Here miss Olive. It's another one for Miss
- 1:03:09Oliver. You mean yes, she had two that
- 1:03:12were up for today. I believe that we are remaining
- 1:03:13on. Let me get the exact correct one
- 1:03:16and I can make sure that the Apologize.
- 1:03:24It's okay, Mr. Cook she is another yes, sir.
- 1:03:27So that's institution attorney about 0173.
- 1:03:30I've been formed by Miss Hall's father today that they intend
- 1:03:33apparently and retaining that attorney on her remaining case
- 1:03:36also. Got it.
- 1:03:42First 26 Clovis. Oh, okay.
- 1:03:46So it's probably two weeks out. I might have to support me.
- 1:03:49Believe it's March 26th. That's sounds correct.
- 1:03:53All right. Probably cause conference.
- 1:03:55In this case, then we'll be during the March 26th 2026. 9
- 1:04:00a.m. And we'll continue if for
- 1:04:03whatever reason we have those dates wrong, just kind of my
- 1:04:06staff and roll. Make sure that they match up.
- 1:04:11All right. Thank you.
- 1:04:13Thank you. Thank you.
- 1:04:14Miss Olive. Thank you.
- 1:04:20All right, everybody, we'll keep an eye on Judge Simpsons court,
- 1:04:23but let's go down to Florida weighed Mercer. the one kind of
- 1:04:30Grand Theft one kind of burglary of a structure, one count of
- 1:04:33criminal mischief, Ms, told there is probable cause for
- 1:04:36these three charges. And this tool monitor standing
- 1:04:41is you're already on state probation.
- 1:04:43So listen to the attorneys and we'll see where we go from here.
- 1:04:45Mr. Mitchell anything. Your honor for Warren hasn't
- 1:04:49been said and we request a seven-day.
- 1:04:51Hold for probation to send one in mixture McDaniel.
- 1:04:57Thank you. So, miss toll.
- 1:04:59Well, let me tell the attorneys this so I received a warrant
- 1:05:02request on Miss toll. Today Thursday, it must have
- 1:05:07been late Monday or late Tuesday after hours.
- 1:05:11I reviewed it. It was the same complaint,
- 1:05:12almost the same but the warrant was for burglary of a dwelling.
- 1:05:16It did, it said burglary, obviously.
- 1:05:19It's better if the officer says Burger obstruction Burger would
- 1:05:21do I think it just said burglary.
- 1:05:22But when you looked at the statute number, it was the
- 1:05:25burglary of a dwelling statute. And it was a second grip felony
- 1:05:29in the warm. So I rejected it and I said,
- 1:05:31it's either the complaints wrong or the warrants wrong.
- 1:05:34It can't be Burger obstruction in third degree, felony, at
- 1:05:37least not in these circumstances so I rejected it.
- 1:05:39So rather than getting the warrant amended it appears to
- 1:05:43just made a probable cause arrest.
- 1:05:44That's what I'm that's a gas on my part.
- 1:05:47So I went in this morning when I saw she had been arrested and I
- 1:05:49just dismissed or rejected that warrant because there's no need
- 1:05:52for Warrant now cuz I made a PC arrest.
- 1:05:54So Mr. I just bringing everybody up to date on where we stand
- 1:05:57man, but there is probably calls for what you're charged with.
- 1:06:00Now, the reason that's important is broken over dwelling is a
- 1:06:03higher degree crime than burglary of a structure.
- 1:06:05You're accused of going in someone's shed and selling some
- 1:06:08items. You're not accused of going in,
- 1:06:09someone's home. What I'm gonna do is show you
- 1:06:12the following bonds, ma'am, on the Grand Theft because you
- 1:06:15already on probation, you're going to be 10,000 dollars on
- 1:06:18the burglary of a structure. Your bond is going to be 10,000
- 1:06:20dollars on the criminal Mission. If your boss can be 5,000
- 1:06:22dollars, Miss tool your total bond is 25,000 dollars do not
- 1:06:26try to post it because I'm going to do what I do 99% of the time
- 1:06:30and that is I'm going to hold you for seven days.
- 1:06:32I want to ask Mr. Mitchell to notify, the state probation
- 1:06:34office of your arrest, gets the state probation office.
- 1:06:37Seven days to seek and obtain a warrant from the Circuit Judge
- 1:06:40on the vop and that judge Garcia judge Garcia will decide if
- 1:06:45you're going to get a bond in the video P.
- 1:06:46The vast majority of the time. If there's a Bop based on new
- 1:06:50fell and he charges, there's no bond.
- 1:06:52But if there's no warrant within seven days, I'm going to release
- 1:06:55that holding. You'll be free to post a bond.
- 1:06:57If there is a warrant, we'll see if it's got a bond on it.
- 1:06:59So you've got a bond, you new cases.
- 1:07:01You do not have a bond in the seven-day bosp.
- 1:07:04Hold you have any questions? Okay, they had me.
- 1:07:08Take a drug test this morning and I passed it.
- 1:07:10Is that what is it? Just because I have any charges
- 1:07:12that they won't get correct. I did I did let the attorneys
- 1:07:17know that you passed your analysis this morning and that
- 1:07:20is exactly right. The reason you're not getting a
- 1:07:21bond is because there's it appears you may have validated
- 1:07:25from your probation by getting new charts, okay?
- 1:07:28And So I talk with you because the investigators were going to
- 1:07:34my mom's house and asking about what was going on.
- 1:07:37And so, My answer, okay with it. They must there's so many to
- 1:07:42mention that first appearance, the investigator that I talked
- 1:07:45to told me to mention to y'all at first appearance to that I
- 1:07:49was cooperative or whatever. And That I would do, whatever I
- 1:07:54had to do to. He got his name, I think it was
- 1:07:59Burgess or Isabella's or something.
- 1:08:00And he said to mention his job first appearance.
- 1:08:04And I appreciate that that doesn't change what I'm going to
- 1:08:06do today. Now, that may make a big
- 1:08:07difference and make a big difference later on.
- 1:08:09Okay, so, don't don't talk about the case to anyone, but if you,
- 1:08:14if you've been Cooperative, that's something you, tell your
- 1:08:17attorney that and your attorney will talk to the state about
- 1:08:19that. And that is a factor the
- 1:08:20prosecutor and usually, the judge also want to know about.
- 1:08:23The other thing is, you do have a condition if you're ever on
- 1:08:25bond. In this case, have no contact
- 1:08:27with that property, don't go to that property.
- 1:08:29That that's your, where you're being accused of this crime at,
- 1:08:31okay? Have a good English.
- 1:08:33So we'll see you seven days. Nothing to give her notice for
- 1:08:36court date. That would be when it would be
- 1:08:38the seventh for both cases. So Corporal, Hornet, be able 7th
- 1:08:43at 8:30 on both cases, on you talking about both case, I'm at
- 1:08:47the vop or is the vop would also be the seventh since the new law
- 1:08:50violation is a felony. So we can't hear the VIP date
- 1:08:53until we get there. So just give her that the
- 1:08:56Sabbath please corporal. Then we have the vlp.
- 1:09:00When we see here, right now, the for April, the vop date matches,
- 1:09:05the No Name is a felony in a, he goes on the right phone, they
- 1:09:10arrange. It doesn't gonna be a p date.
- 1:09:12Correct? Because the VIP date for April
- 1:09:13is much later. Alright, thank you.
- 1:09:16We have Joshua cleaning next. Mr. Cleaning, good morning, Mr.
- 1:09:28Cleaning, you're here for first appearance, accused of four
- 1:09:30charges, the accused of possession of controlled
- 1:09:32substance develop a prescription resisting officer, without
- 1:09:34violence, possession of marijuana less than 20 grams in
- 1:09:37possession of drug equipment, which is also possession of drug
- 1:09:40paraphernalia. We should make any you want to
- 1:09:42be heard, we had a discussion about probable cause anything,
- 1:09:44open on the record nothing. Yeah, so, Mr. Cleaning.
- 1:09:47I want to find this probable cause for these four charges,
- 1:09:49although I think that they possession control substance is
- 1:09:52based upon a, what's called a residue amount.
- 1:09:55A residue means a small amount left and some type of
- 1:09:59paraphernalia or baggy or device for inhaling a substance.
- 1:10:03Sometimes a residue amount is not even enough to send to a
- 1:10:06lab. So typically the state
- 1:10:09attorney's office will make a decision on whether they're
- 1:10:11going to try to prosecute that or not.
- 1:10:12Someone consider that that allegation.
- 1:10:15When I set your bond that this may that that one fell in
- 1:10:18charge, you have main up going away, I don't know.
- 1:10:20That's not gonna be my call. That'll be the state's call.
- 1:10:22We'll see what they decide to do with it, but right now you use
- 1:10:26And felony in three misdemeanors.
- 1:10:28Let me listen to the attorneys and I'll set you a bond.
- 1:10:30I think you're entitled to one. As far as I can tell.
- 1:10:32Mr. Mitchell, anything goes here on.
- 1:10:35We just requested be subject to random uas.
- 1:10:37Thank you, Mr. McDaniel. Nothing but you're cleaning
- 1:10:39almost at your bond at 2500 dollars each.
- 1:10:41I'm gonna treat that felony charge as a misdemeanor because
- 1:10:44it does appear to be based on a residue amount.
- 1:10:46Yvonne is 2,500 times 4, that's 10,000 dollars, cash or Surety
- 1:10:50cash or Surety means. You can go through a bondsman.
- 1:10:52If you want to go through a basement, you have the right to
- 1:10:55do that. You'll get used a phone in a few
- 1:10:57minutes or to try to post a bond.
- 1:10:58You do have a condition random of your analysis because you're
- 1:11:01charged with the drug offense and Mr. Cleaning, I'm going to
- 1:11:04ask a jail to give you a notice for your court date.
- 1:11:06We're going to give you a notice for you fell.
- 1:11:07Only date right now because right now it's a felony, if it
- 1:11:10becomes a misdemeanor that will change your court date.
- 1:11:12Or right now, his court date will be win.
- 1:11:15April 7th at 8:30 Mr. Cleaning, do you have any questions?
- 1:11:20The best sir. Thank you yes sir.
- 1:11:25Next we have four cleaning. Mr. Cleaning, good morning, sir.
- 1:11:36You're here because you've been accused of one, kind of
- 1:11:38possession of Fire by or Ammunition by convicted felon.
- 1:11:41That's the second group fell only.
- 1:11:43One kind of engaging in criminal offense with a weapon which I'll
- 1:11:46come back to in just a second one, kind of possession of
- 1:11:49controlled substance without a prescription.
- 1:11:50That's also a residue of residual amount.
- 1:11:53It's not a it appears to be of a small amount in some type of
- 1:12:00baggy or smoking device and possession drug equipment, which
- 1:12:05is paraphernalia Mr. Cleaning, I believe Mr. McDaniel wants to be
- 1:12:08heard on probable, cause on the engaging and criminal offense
- 1:12:11with a weapon Mr. McDaniels like Craig.
- 1:12:13Yes. Just that is not.
- 1:12:15I mean, it's found under pillow. It was clearly he having his
- 1:12:18possession. My name is committing, some fail
- 1:12:20in the act of failing. Technically, qualifies as a
- 1:12:27caring, possibly the statue requires carrying.
- 1:12:30Yeah, the question is allegedly. It was under his pillow, not on
- 1:12:36his person. So that's the issue thing.
- 1:12:40Mr. Mitchell Well at the court decide on that but regardless we
- 1:12:46also request CD subject to random UA's.
- 1:12:48So Mr. Cleaning, I want to find no problems on the gauging and
- 1:12:52criminal offense with a weapon that statute says you've got to
- 1:12:54use this blade, threatening to use or carry a weapon.
- 1:12:58There's no allegation. You did any of those things.
- 1:13:00There's an allegation, you possessed a weapon by
- 1:13:03constructive possession. This is not a constructive
- 1:13:05possession, statute that you're accused of.
- 1:13:07So on that charge that charge on.
- 1:13:09I'm going to find no probable cause officer certainly has the
- 1:13:12right to have been that within 24 hours.
- 1:13:13If he or she wishes to regarding the other three charges there is
- 1:13:16probable. Cause unless you the following
- 1:13:18Bond, the possession of Fire by convicted felons, a secondary to
- 1:13:22the bond. In that case of 25,000 dollars,
- 1:13:24the other two Bond will be 2500 dollars each for the same
- 1:13:29rationale, like Express in your son's case.
- 1:13:32So, you've got a total Bond of 30,000 dollars and no problems
- 1:13:37in one charge, you've got a condition of random year
- 1:13:40analysis, Mr. Cleaning, I mean, you can be drug tested at any
- 1:13:43time, I'm going to ask a jail to give you a notice for your court
- 1:13:45date, which will be April 7th at 8:30 and you will get you the
- 1:13:49phone store in just a few minutes.
- 1:13:50Do you have any questions? I'm sure I wish you the best.
- 1:13:54We have Amanda, Hamlin. Next Chris Hammond.
- 1:14:05Good morning ma'am. First thing I need to do is get
- 1:14:07your name correct, because the complaint use a two names
- 1:14:10interchangeably. What is your last name?
- 1:14:12Ms? Hamlin, my last name on my
- 1:14:15license? Handling.
- 1:14:16Okay, the complaint says handling in places and in some
- 1:14:19places it says, handling slash Tucker or Dash Tucker Family.
- 1:14:23You're here because you've been accused of one kind of
- 1:14:25possession drug paraphernalia Ms. Hamlin, I'm going to point
- 1:14:27the pope. There's officer represent you
- 1:14:28and I'm gonna ask you to listen to Mr. McDaniel in this Mr.
- 1:14:31Meter allegation. You want to just listening and
- 1:14:36she said, 30 days in the county jail. 300 855 fine.
- 1:14:39One day, Joe credit and she has signed a Blue Wave one way,
- 1:14:42right? Thank you Mr. Matt Damon Mr.
- 1:14:46Mitchell's I agree with the state.
- 1:14:47It is your owner Miss. Hamlin.
- 1:14:49Did you hear that agreement? Yes sir.
- 1:14:51Do you have any questions about that agreement?
- 1:14:52Yes, sir man was that to play? You would like to enter the
- 1:14:56resolve this misdemeanor case. Yes, Sam, I'm gonna step your
- 1:15:00player, no contest to the charges possession.
- 1:15:01Drug paraphernalia judge you go to that offense and issue to 60
- 1:15:05that, excuse me, 30 days in jail, is the agreed upon Senate
- 1:15:08one day, credit 385 court costs and fines are imposed that'll be
- 1:15:13a civil judgment. If you don't get a word off at
- 1:15:15the jail, hope you'll get, it worked off at the gym.
- 1:15:16Is Hamlin, there's no probation involved in the sentence.
- 1:15:18You have 29 days left at most, the reason I say at most is hope
- 1:15:23you're going to do some get some games on and get out there
- 1:15:25little early with no probation. Missing.
- 1:15:28You have any questions? Yes.
- 1:15:31All right man, we wish you the best, thank you.
- 1:15:43Terms of your state. Probation, ma'am.
- 1:15:49I've got a copy of warning in front of me and it's a no bond
- 1:15:53Warren. It's been signed by the circuit
- 1:15:55judgment. So what I'm going to do this
- 1:15:56morning is I want to get you a rain.
- 1:15:57I want to get you a lawyer pointed to represent you.
- 1:15:59If you're asking for one family, want to have an attorney
- 1:16:02appointed, represent you Yes, sir.
- 1:16:04This will be listening to Mr. McDaniel my pointing that up and
- 1:16:07resolves to represent, you know, we're really not guilty.
- 1:16:09Yes, it doesn't April 23rd, Court, docket and advisor.
- 1:16:12There'll be a attorney that I speak with her part of that
- 1:16:13hearing. Mr. Mitchell anything.
- 1:16:18No, thank you both. So, miss Libby, the Publisher's
- 1:16:22office will speak to you before your court date, ma'am.
- 1:16:24And then you'll see judge Garcia on that date.
- 1:16:26You have any questions, you know, have a good day ma'am.
- 1:16:29Thank you, Andrea Bell. Icon.
- 1:16:40Because that's what she says that.
- 1:16:43She told us that the last quarter date.
- 1:16:44It should be on Dre. Mr. Bell, you have a hold from
- 1:16:48the Florida Commission on offender review that used to be
- 1:16:52called the Florida parole commission.
- 1:16:53I think we told you this may happen when I saw you.
- 1:16:56The first time they have filed a detainer on you.
- 1:16:58So you've got a bond in your local charges.
- 1:17:01You have no bond in this whole from the Florida Commission on
- 1:17:05offender review and they will be in contact with you at the jail.
- 1:17:08If they haven't done so already they have certain timelines.
- 1:17:10They have to follow within their system.
- 1:17:12Just be aware. You got some charged with a
- 1:17:15bond. You have another charged with no
- 1:17:17bond as of right now, any questions.
- 1:17:19Mr. Bell. I saw with no bonds to like the
- 1:17:22violation. Yes, yes.
- 1:17:24Okay. Okay.
- 1:17:26We should have been sir. All right.
- 1:17:29Now I think we're going to give him a coordinate in the fell.
- 1:17:32And is that right Corporal? Yes sir.
- 1:17:33We did. Perfect.
- 1:17:35Okay. I think I'm not sure it's been a
- 1:17:46while. I, you know, you said that
- 1:17:49situation. I think it may be 10 days for
- 1:17:52the time to hold his place on them.
- 1:17:53Do they have to the throne of the mission or the they don't
- 1:17:57call him broker's anymore that person when you call it.
- 1:18:01Ah, that person has to beat with him at the jail.
- 1:18:04Think it's 10 days from when the Holy place?
- 1:18:07I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
- 1:18:09I mean you don't ever see him or yeah.
- 1:18:11My God. How long do they only take to
- 1:18:14come see him. I've seen him to take some
- 1:18:15months. Sometimes come see him being
- 1:18:23pretty fast. I don't know what time it is.
- 1:18:26So thank you Corporal. That's everything I had on my
- 1:18:28list. Same thing up from jail.
- 1:18:29This morning. No sir.
- 1:18:32Mr. Mitchell anything from the state here?
- 1:18:34Are I just noticed that I was looking back?
- 1:18:36Do we need to bring Michael Eubanks up to address, the
- 1:18:39failure to appear that he had in his felony case.
- 1:18:44He's not even I think he's already been seen on that and
- 1:18:46he's got no bond on that. Yes, I've been seeing correct.
- 1:18:49Okay, I didn't know that. So no one shall make a charging
- 1:18:52decision on that. On the other.
- 1:18:54On the new cases will either sit on a dock or if you ask for a
- 1:18:58warrant will I get that route but I got you.
- 1:19:00Oh, nothing else, nothing else, Mr. Mike, Daniel anything else?
- 1:19:03So ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our docket for today.
- 1:19:07It's 8:40, friends. I'll keep an eye on the State of
- 1:19:10Florida to see if anything else pops up there.
- 1:19:13In the meantime, let's go back to Michigan, judge to Santo.
- 1:19:19All right, thank you for addressing very early report.
- 1:19:22The court does have before today, the sentencing for your
- 1:19:29client on his plea, to the property 2002000.
- 1:19:34Among the charge of large. P1000 to 20,000 as well as
- 1:19:43larceny 1,020,000 the rno in the last Larsen less than 200 were
- 1:19:48all dismissed by way of resolution between Council and
- 1:19:51council. Did you have an opportunity to
- 1:19:54review the report and recommendation with your client?
- 1:19:56All right. Are there any corrections that
- 1:19:58need to be made? All right, and then as to the
- 1:20:02recommendation and then we are asking to be sentenced under
- 1:20:06height up on the recommendation of the information officer when
- 1:20:10he has a few words to say to you, but just met just a
- 1:20:13Cordova. Can you give you a little bit of
- 1:20:15background of course? Okay, we have made restitution
- 1:20:18for restitution on the council. One and two, Mateo is going to
- 1:20:24be turning 23. In may he graduated from Saint
- 1:20:28Mary's Catholic sectional he or his associates degree from
- 1:20:31Henry, Ford College. He has a CDL license.
- 1:20:34He works full-time for Corrigan's.
- 1:20:37Sister Ann, Arbor, his employer is aware of the situation and is
- 1:20:41very, very supportive of Mateo. His mom is in the courtroom.
- 1:20:46His dad was a report for among prior proceedings.
- 1:20:48Parents are loving, but firm and All the rest of the attorneys
- 1:20:54fees, the court has everything is being paid for from Mateo
- 1:20:58savings account. He had been saving his money to
- 1:21:00move out of his parents house. Now, he won't be able to move
- 1:21:04out, because all that money is being spent on this criminal
- 1:21:06case and I can just tell you, you're on the one, I met him in
- 1:21:11jail in November he was filled with shame and remorse and
- 1:21:16embarrassment. This is not something that is
- 1:21:18consistent with Matteo's character.
- 1:21:21And so with that I'll have him say a few words to your brother.
- 1:21:23Okay. Thank you.
- 1:21:25I just personally feel apologize to court system for waste no
- 1:21:29time and energy to the victim for causing damage and
- 1:21:32properties stealing their property from embarrassing.
- 1:21:35My family through the police officers that night that I ran
- 1:21:40from making deal with the actions of me and my boat
- 1:21:43offended. I'd be regret my actions.
- 1:21:46It is not my character to steal or damage or run from law.
- 1:21:51Enforcement being intoxicated is not an excuse for running
- 1:21:54causing damage on harming the law.
- 1:21:56I'm in the process of learning the my mistakes, and we come in
- 1:22:00a better person. So this may never happen again.
- 1:22:03okay, I appreciate those words, sir and Just so you're aware,
- 1:22:11you know, when someone's here in front of the court, it's not a
- 1:22:14waste of time. We're here, right?
- 1:22:17We're here for whatever we have to be here for and if you have
- 1:22:23learned from this experience so that you're not going to repeat
- 1:22:27these behaviors again that it's 100% on a waste of time.
- 1:22:31Okay. Um, And I appreciate you word,
- 1:22:35sir, you may not be aware of how many individuals are. present
- 1:22:42for sentencing that have victims in their choose, not to say,
- 1:22:46Rich. on these a bit concerning for the court because then the
- 1:22:51court doesn't know what they are actually remorseful or not.
- 1:22:54Um, so let me just clarify one thing.
- 1:22:59Yes, the restitution was paid to.
- 1:23:02I believe it was Mr. Anderson. And Miss Williams.
- 1:23:11Miss and I and I say this because last Thursday The
- 1:23:16co-defendant, Mr. Quitter was sentenced.
- 1:23:19In that matter, this molt Mulk, I believe m o a k.
- 1:23:25She was one of the victims. But she had sent in an email
- 1:23:31indicating that she was requesting restitution.
- 1:23:35But I don't recall that she had a specific.
- 1:23:38So when you indicate Council that restitution is paid in full
- 1:23:41the restitution, that was known at that time.
- 1:23:45With Mr. Henderson, and Mr. Williams that has been paid in
- 1:23:49full, um, The representation of Mr. Mohammed, with the
- 1:23:54Prosecutors office was that the information they had?
- 1:23:58Was that there was no other restitution.
- 1:23:59That was big requested at that time, it wasn't until the
- 1:24:03communication came from my probation department to the
- 1:24:07victims per the crime, victim rights act that we were made
- 1:24:10aware that there was a third victim that was requesting
- 1:24:12restitution. So I only say that to say that,
- 1:24:15yes, the restitution that was known at that time for Mr.
- 1:24:20Henderson. And Miss Williams were paid for
- 1:24:22in full However, there may be additional restitution now that
- 1:24:28would be jointly and separately and with Mr. Cleaner as I
- 1:24:34indicated to Mr. Quitter. And that would be done after a
- 1:24:37restitution hearing, because we don't unless there's an amount
- 1:24:40that's been agreed upon, right? Because we don't know what that
- 1:24:43amount is, and we don't have that information yet.
- 1:24:45So I just wanted that to be obviously, for the records
- 1:24:49specified. You know, Mateo has
- 1:24:52responsibility and however, it plays out, we'll be fine with
- 1:24:56them. Okay, and so Mr. Mr. Hills, I
- 1:24:59again, I do appreciate that. You did apologize to the
- 1:25:05individuals while you're here in court, because Mr. Henderson was
- 1:25:09simply working another job so that you can get Christmas
- 1:25:12presents for his kids. And so then in the additional
- 1:25:16cost and expense of that, So, with all that being said, the
- 1:25:23court does find that there's reasonable grounds to
- 1:25:25Department. I'm still 769.5 baseball with
- 1:25:28the court is heard from Mr. Hill's.
- 1:25:30And for Ms, Prasad as well as reviewing the report in the
- 1:25:33recommendation. The court also finds that the
- 1:25:37following sentences in the best, interest of justice is
- 1:25:39reasonable proportion to the seriousness of the matter.
- 1:25:44Taking into account the circum. The circumstances surrounding
- 1:25:48Mr. Hills and legislative guidelines.
- 1:25:50The Court's going to order 24 months probation, you are
- 1:25:54eligible for early discharge and go over that shortly.
- 1:25:56You are also eligible under Haida.
- 1:25:59You are not violating any criminal law of any unit of
- 1:26:02government. You're not to leave the state
- 1:26:03without the consent of the court, you are to report.
- 1:26:06Truthfully to probation officer is often to probation officer,
- 1:26:09may be required. Whether in person in writing or
- 1:26:11virtually, you are to notify probation.
- 1:26:15Immediately of any change in address or employment status.
- 1:26:20You are not to use any alcohol or drugs, unless prescribed, and
- 1:26:23you have to participate random testing the rehabilitative goal
- 1:26:27for that condition. So the court can manage your
- 1:26:29progress and maintaining absence and sobriety.
- 1:26:31And sure it does appear for both you and Mr. Corner, that alcohol
- 1:26:36played a significant role in. The behaviors.
- 1:26:42The Court's going to order that you are to enroll at participate
- 1:26:45in athletes and substance use counseling.
- 1:26:47I understand that you currently are so you will continue with
- 1:26:50what you're currently doing. I'm not going to indicate your
- 1:26:52to find a different level, a different one.
- 1:26:54You can continue with what you're doing, the rehabilitative
- 1:26:57goal for that condition, obviously is so you can have
- 1:26:59continued assistance in providing coping mechanisms.
- 1:27:04So you can hopefully prevent this from happening again.
- 1:27:08You are not to have any contact with any of the victims.
- 1:27:20Fusion, the only other individual that we're aware of
- 1:27:23as I've indicated with this smoke, and then, that would be
- 1:27:26something for restitution hearing to determine the amount
- 1:27:28if that's what is but forth. I'm just stating that so you
- 1:27:35don't think that we're just going to take A statement that
- 1:27:42says, all I'm out, thousands of dollars and just say okay this
- 1:27:44is what you have to pay their house to be some supporting
- 1:27:47documentation for that, okay? Just as there was for the other
- 1:27:49two individuals and then you have to participate in making
- 1:27:53decisions class. So rehabilitative goal for that
- 1:27:55condition serves so that you can further understand consequences
- 1:27:59of poor decision-making. Hopefully preventing this from
- 1:28:02happening again. Okay.
- 1:28:04Do you have any questions regarding those conditions?
- 1:28:06I don't know. Okay. um, the Court's going to I
- 1:28:14don't remember except for I'm sorry.
- 1:28:17Can you please pull up Mr. Quitters Ace.
- 1:28:26Yes. Yes.
- 1:28:32Can you please tell me what I assess for his fine. on the
- 1:28:41mdop. 200 to 1,000. Yes.
- 1:28:51I'm sorry. She's okay.
- 1:28:55So I'll work backwards. What?
- 1:28:57I'm trying to do Castle. I'm just trying to make sure
- 1:28:58that they're young. It's the same here, okay?
- 1:29:02And then for count to the larceny.
- 1:29:07One house. And then count three, no
- 1:29:13attempt. Okay.
- 1:29:18So I'm just going to take me a minute here.
- 1:29:20I'm just gonna work backwards cancel my Italian, that the
- 1:29:25screening fee was 100 dollars. The oversight fee is 1200
- 1:29:28dollars. And victim assessment.
- 1:29:30They have 75 dollars. Justice system assessment via 50
- 1:29:33dollars. Prosecution $300.
- 1:29:45So do that include the restitution method did it?
- 1:29:52I don't think so because that was already paid.
- 1:30:10I'm missing something in there. Well, what is this?
- 1:30:16Show that the fine just the fine was assessed.
- 1:30:21Or forgot one. I want 1,000 and Would that be
- 1:30:31right in the first state parks in miscellaneous and economic
- 1:30:35body? Yes, let me see here.
- 1:30:50And drag assess 300 dollars for cost of prosecution or $400.
- 1:31:00Okay. I'm not sure.
- 1:31:10Okay, what does it show? Me see here.
- 1:31:13So if you go to the finest of Arizona Shelf, video is 1200.
- 1:31:34Miscellaneous was 4008. Okay, so that's where my
- 1:31:41difference was here. Okay?
- 1:31:44All right, what does it show the finest for account 2?
- 1:31:58Is 1,300.5 says Total Gym. So broken up cost was 15870.
- 1:32:04She was 75. Wait a second, what's that?
- 1:32:091,735, oh 1000. Okay.
- 1:32:11Okay. The state cost 50.
- 1:32:15MLS was 275. all right, and then I'm going you seeing the 9400
- 1:32:36for count three. Three.
- 1:32:39Four. Five hundred.
- 1:32:43Okay, listening is was 200. Years.
- 1:32:47Okay. What's under the back of my 75?
- 1:32:51I think, but okay, all right, perfect, thank you.
- 1:32:53All right, so um, All right, so Council I just want to make sure
- 1:32:59I was keeping that balance between the two so the courts
- 1:33:04going to order and the count one 1,000 fine, one hundred dollar,
- 1:33:08screening assessment fee, 1200 dollars, supervision oversight
- 1:33:11feed that's fifty dollars. A month at 24 months.
- 1:33:13Since you're eligible for early discharge if they have of that,
- 1:33:16could be weight, 400 dollars to the cost and crime victim,
- 1:33:20assessment view of 75 dollars, just a system assessment, fifty
- 1:33:23dollars for 1285. That is a 1,000, fine, 200
- 1:33:32dollars for the cost prosecution.
- 1:33:34I didn't charge a screening or oversight fee because I just
- 1:33:37charged at an account one. 75 now, they're kind of assessment
- 1:33:40fee, $50 justice system, assessment fee for 12 1325. and
- 1:33:46then the last count of attempt, I know is 500 dollar sign. 200
- 1:33:56dollars that cost prosecution. Predicting assessment fee of 75
- 1:34:01dollars. Justice system, assessment via
- 1:34:0350 dollars. so 4,975 dollars between all
- 1:34:17three cases or keeping in mind that up to 600 dollars of that
- 1:34:21could be waived if you discharge early.
- 1:34:22Okay? So I know that's a large amount,
- 1:34:26sir. And you'll be stuck looking at
- 1:34:29home for a little bit longer. But many have you set up your
- 1:34:33payment plan but probation, okay?
- 1:34:34And as I did indicate your eligible for early discharge as
- 1:34:40long as all the following have occurred, you've completed at
- 1:34:42least half of your original term of probation.
- 1:34:43I'll probably should requirements of been completed.
- 1:34:46You've got at least three months without any violations and
- 1:34:48allies have been either, Payton full, or even if that return
- 1:34:51making full payment, Okay, any questions?
- 1:34:55All right. Go back to thank you, judge.
- 1:34:57Thank you. Good luck to you sir.
- 1:34:58Have a seat over and probation. Somebody will be with you
- 1:35:00shortly. Thank you.
- 1:35:01Thank you. So Thursday morning here at TCF
- 1:35:05live. Good to have you all with us.
- 1:35:08Hope you're enjoying your day so far, let's go down to Ohio Judge
- 1:35:13O'Donnell. Thank you.
- 1:35:19Thank you. So what you want to do?
- 1:35:22Yes, sir. What's your plea to the
- 1:35:25allegations? I'm guilty of everything that
- 1:35:28was said. It's time, is it?
- 1:35:36You think you're on our, um, we just like to ask the court today
- 1:35:39for any leniency in sentencing. And this speaking of Mister
- 1:35:42Madoc on my understanding, these cases are much older.
- 1:35:44He understands that as well, your honor he does suffer from
- 1:35:48drug use and mental health. Use her Mr. Maynard, he has been
- 1:35:53diagnosed with bipolar at the time of failing to appear for
- 1:35:58probation. He indicated, he was having
- 1:35:59issues with his bipolar medication.
- 1:36:01He was reaching out to Signature, Health, to try to get
- 1:36:03adjustments in that medication. Unfortunately was on successful,
- 1:36:06so he did take himself off the medication.
- 1:36:08So, we just like to ask for any leaning scene and sentencing
- 1:36:11today. Thank you.
- 1:36:32So maytech, what do you want to tell me?
- 1:36:36Have a second judge Donald. Sure.
- 1:36:41So last time I wrote you a 15-page letter and completely
- 1:36:45annoyed the crap out of you and how do you know you annoyed the
- 1:36:49crap out of me? Because it was mostly bulshit
- 1:36:51and I you could see right through it and you're a smart
- 1:36:53man and I know you could and that's why you We are here
- 1:36:57again. I lost my father, a couple
- 1:37:01months ago he was killed by a nursing home.
- 1:37:05I am on my own, I have my own place.
- 1:37:07I still work for Jack that the guy that you know, that I got
- 1:37:11this case from I work every day, I have my own apartment and
- 1:37:14Cleveland in my girlfriend, I've actually been doing really good.
- 1:37:18I've just, I was trying to save money.
- 1:37:21I'm getting money from a lost from a lawsuit, from my dad to,
- 1:37:24I was gonna come back to court and pay it.
- 1:37:25But that's neither here. Nor there.
- 1:37:27I don't want to waste your time anymore.
- 1:37:30This Court's time and keep dragging this on, this is 10
- 1:37:33years old. I haven't been in trouble since
- 1:37:34I haven't heard anybody. I have stolen anything, there's
- 1:37:37not one thing. I've done to the public, to
- 1:37:39prove that I'm a nuisance that I don't belong in the public.
- 1:37:41I mean, I, You know, I've been on it on and off for bipolar
- 1:37:49medication, some work, some hasn't and it's just, it's been
- 1:37:52a nightmare for me. But the real thing is, is I go
- 1:37:56to work every day. Sir, I don't cause anybody any
- 1:37:59trouble. I'm, I haven't obviously in 10
- 1:38:01years. I haven't got a new, you know,
- 1:38:03charge of stealing or theft or anything and That's honest, you
- 1:38:08got it's true. I if you're if you if you got
- 1:38:11that mental health condition, why why aren't you do something?
- 1:38:16Why don't you do something about it?
- 1:38:19Well, because I've been too scared because I haven't had an
- 1:38:21idea. I've had warrants, so I don't I
- 1:38:23thought that they would arrest me if I go to any place like
- 1:38:25that yet, but how do you think use a meth helps your mental
- 1:38:29health condition? It helps my, it's helped my
- 1:38:31ADHD. I used it in the morning.
- 1:38:33One time I take, I eat a little piece that I have, I don't sit
- 1:38:36there and snort the stuff all day.
- 1:38:38I don't sit there and go wild and get high and say it's
- 1:38:41nothing to do with that. I use it in a waistband.
- 1:38:43I don't know that, right? No, you don't.
- 1:38:45I can't possibly know that and I can't prove that right?
- 1:38:49I, I do know, one thing. I, I don't honestly think I
- 1:38:53deserve to To be I think I think letting me go today would be
- 1:38:58honestly, the fairest thing because I know you don't usually
- 1:39:02do that but I haven't heard it. I never do that. because that's
- 1:39:10You see? Sir it would, I'm sorry.
- 1:39:19Well. The prosecutor on your 17 case.
- 1:39:26And the public defender, both retired.
- 1:39:31A number of years ago. That's how old this thing.
- 1:39:34Yeah. So you know receiving On the
- 1:39:4217th case. Yeah, Jack was supposed to come
- 1:39:44here and actually tell you guys that those items were found, but
- 1:39:47that's neither here, nor there that doesn't matter today. and,
- 1:39:55you were giving you were giving intervention on that case which
- 1:39:58meant if you complied with the two-year plan.
- 1:40:03By August 19th record. Erase I wish I would have done
- 1:40:11that. I wish you would have done it
- 1:40:13too. I've always wanted to be a cop.
- 1:40:15That's been my old thing. My whole life, honestly. but so,
- 1:40:21So, we tried a bunch of treatment you disappeared and
- 1:40:24you hit this appearing. and, You get this other charge, which is
- 1:40:30a failure to appear because you kept disappearing, then he
- 1:40:34disappeared some more. It was due to my every
- 1:40:36placements and everything that happened, but that was all going
- 1:40:38on. Last time you were here.
- 1:40:40Yeah. Okay. and, we addressed that as
- 1:40:46best we could, and then I addressed the mental health
- 1:40:51stuff when you were here back in November of 23, And I did go, I
- 1:40:58did go, I was meeting with them and then that it just started
- 1:41:01giving me really bad nightmares and things were just okay,
- 1:41:04that's why? That's why you need to address
- 1:41:08it. Not just stop taking it and not
- 1:41:10show up. I mean.
- 1:41:13That's your biggest. That's I do want to work with
- 1:41:17somewhere honestly, I really do want to work with the facility
- 1:41:20and now that once I get out that I have my that I don't have
- 1:41:23warrants and stuff I able to go to a hospital and get my an idea
- 1:41:27and actually go and do these things.
- 1:41:29And that's, that's huge me, that's part of why I'm coming
- 1:41:32here and I'm saying, let's get this done because I want an
- 1:41:35idea. Again, I don't want to have to
- 1:41:36hide, I don't want to have to run.
- 1:41:37I want to be able to keep my apartment, keep my life, and
- 1:41:40they fail to go to and get a clinic.
- 1:41:42And get, I'm not here to cause anybody trouble.
- 1:41:44I'm not here to hurt anybody else in the public.
- 1:41:47I just want to work and make a life like my father and
- 1:41:49everybody else. You you wasted a good At least a
- 1:41:54good name years more than that sir.
- 1:41:56Well I know that at least a nine years you've been coming here
- 1:41:59and this completely wasted time my grave.
- 1:42:02I been grieving my sister since its half my life has been
- 1:42:07wasted. I don't want to waste the more.
- 1:42:08This is the chance for me to get my ID and I can actually go and
- 1:42:12get help in the things that I need.
- 1:42:13And I wish there was a way. I could prove that, you know,
- 1:42:15that you care, you know? Honestly listen.
- 1:42:19Yeah. I just want to show you that you
- 1:42:21know, you ever wished your time that I can be a member of
- 1:42:24society and I'm not gonna screw up anymore, but that that's up.
- 1:42:27That's completely on you. I just don't have a dad and turn
- 1:42:33to have no family. They were all just, you know,
- 1:42:36killed that you're somebody that I look up to and I'd love to
- 1:42:41show you what I have built rather than you know they I'm
- 1:42:47just a screw up and Nothing. I mean not having my dad here
- 1:42:52right now. It's hard enough for me
- 1:42:53honestly, it's I haven't even. I'm actually in the process of
- 1:42:57bearing him right now. He hasn't even buried yet.
- 1:42:59That's part of the main reason why I really really really you
- 1:43:03know how I close I was to my father and my family and that's
- 1:43:07the main reason I'm asking to just to be dismissed him, like
- 1:43:10goes so I could be with him that that very him that he was killed
- 1:43:15by the nurse at home and Euclid and that's, I just want to be
- 1:43:21able to bury my dad. And get help and do these
- 1:43:25things. And I have my own place, I'm not
- 1:43:27going out into me and my girlfriend, both lived there, I
- 1:43:30worked for Jack. I'm still in the same, I haven't
- 1:43:33none of that has changed. Do you still up off the same?
- 1:43:36Clear, no sir, I have been. My address is 4172 Rocky, River
- 1:43:42Drive, Cleveland, Ohio, 44117 or no.
- 1:43:45I'm sorry for. You used to live up by Sinclair.
- 1:43:48Would you work there? Sinclair off around 185th up
- 1:43:53there. Oh that's my boss does Jack
- 1:43:57James, he works. He doesn't let it go anymore.
- 1:43:59He's in charge. But there would be nothing
- 1:44:08better in this entire world's me right now to be able to go very
- 1:44:11my father and get help and get an ID.
- 1:44:13And be done with this. I, you know.
- 1:44:17So what what has stopped you in the past from doing that?
- 1:44:21So in the past two years what stop you've been doing that me
- 1:44:24getting an ID and not and having to hide and run and I've just
- 1:44:27been working. Well you were you were hiding.
- 1:44:29Why? Because I was scared of this day
- 1:44:33yet. Here you are.
- 1:44:41I never thought these things would come about like this and
- 1:44:43never thought my dad would be killed.
- 1:44:44I just I don't want to be in prison and he was when did your
- 1:44:49dad die? A couple months ago.
- 1:44:53And and how old was he that time, 76ers?
- 1:44:57Well you certainly knew that time was coming sometime, right?
- 1:45:01I mean everybody dies, he was in really good health over each.
- 1:45:07But then that happens. And so question is, what do you
- 1:45:10do? Where do you go from there?
- 1:45:13Well, I have, there's a lawsuit against a nursing home, but I
- 1:45:17just love, regardless of the lawsuit velocity that works, or
- 1:45:20it doesn't work. Okay?
- 1:45:21Showing him that I can do the right thing, but whether it
- 1:45:25Whether it results in some. Vindication for, for you.
- 1:45:32Because of what happened. It may or may not.
- 1:45:36Whatever way it goes, you still got to move on.
- 1:45:40I mean, and that's why I'm not really my life if it doesn't
- 1:45:43work out. And then, what are you gonna do?
- 1:45:46You gonna go to like a, like a meth depression or what?
- 1:45:49No. That's what I did with my
- 1:45:51sister. I ruin my life.
- 1:45:52When my sister passed away, I screwed up.
- 1:45:54I when she got killed, I, I did a lot of dumb things with this.
- 1:45:59I, if I have an idea right now, I'm going to get medication,
- 1:46:02not, I can promise you that I could wear medication.
- 1:46:06So what I'm going right back to Signature Health, if I got out
- 1:46:09of here today, right now, if you said we're done with this
- 1:46:12instead of going home right now, I'm going my first.
- 1:46:15My first place is going to Signature Health, to get signed
- 1:46:18back up so I can get medication. You got to understand something.
- 1:46:22Sitting here. That this isn't this if you were
- 1:46:27if you were on probation and Kyle, the county, I guarantee
- 1:46:30you that they would terminate your probation right now and
- 1:46:33you'd walk out the door and go out with your life without
- 1:46:36having any probation. Okay?
- 1:46:38That's, that's a certainty. I would rather be back on
- 1:46:41probation honestly but it don't I don't do that because Then
- 1:46:47what what is any? What?
- 1:46:49What have you accomplished? What is the system accomplished
- 1:46:53by rewarding you for consistently not showing up?
- 1:46:56Because because nothing has been solved.
- 1:46:59Okay, you still have the metal health condition that is on
- 1:47:02treated, And now you're you're on top of that, your piling on
- 1:47:07the map. and, I can't imagine a worse combination than not being
- 1:47:13treated for bipolar and use a meth.
- 1:47:17And here, like Ricochet Rabbit off every wall.
- 1:47:21I don't I go to work every single day.
- 1:47:23Sir. That's okay.
- 1:47:24Except I know. None of us.
- 1:47:27Jackson told you before though. Okay, I haven't seen you in two
- 1:47:31years. That's true, that's true.
- 1:47:32So Sir, I would go right now, today, right?
- 1:47:37To Signature Health, not to get meth and I would go, I would get
- 1:47:40the medication that I need. I and I'm not just saying this
- 1:47:43to get out of jail, I'm saying this because I want a life, I
- 1:47:45don't want to be able to bury my dad, Burying my dad right now is
- 1:47:49the only thing I want to be able to do if you want a life and,
- 1:47:52and it's up to you to create the life.
- 1:47:55Regardless of what I do. Yeah.
- 1:47:57I mean right now. You got?
- 1:48:01Two fees and enough for. So right now I can give you 42
- 1:48:08months. With credit for what, nine
- 1:48:12months, 10 months, something like this?
- 1:48:15And you have them 32 months to do.
- 1:48:19And then and then at some point you get out and you determine
- 1:48:23what you're going to do with your life.
- 1:48:28It's a matter what? See, nothing I've done in nine
- 1:48:32years is mattered. I've had, I've had no effect.
- 1:48:39Your daily life. Because you've you've done
- 1:48:42whatever you want to do. And end up in.
- 1:48:48Kentucky and where, okay, that's the only place I can see for
- 1:48:51sure that you've gone. Because that's where they
- 1:48:54graduate and that was a nightmare, right?
- 1:48:56It was so, it was. Now when you were here when you
- 1:49:02were here, after you pled guilty on this Failure to appear and I
- 1:49:08sentenced you you talked about in that presents report, what a
- 1:49:11nightmare it was and how you would never do that again.
- 1:49:14You're going to comply with everything because you don't
- 1:49:16want to be put in that position again.
- 1:49:19I just wanted out of jail every time and I wanted to not be on
- 1:49:22probation, and do I just wanted I Sir.
- 1:49:28I know one thing if I if there's anything else going on right
- 1:49:32now, I don't want to lose my place.
- 1:49:33I worked hard to get it and that means more to me than any drug
- 1:49:36or anything else. And I don't, I don't want to
- 1:49:39lose not being able to bury my father.
- 1:49:41I mean, I have to make what be on that.
- 1:49:45I want to be sober and not do anything that that's like a huge
- 1:49:49thing to me and I can't, I don't need anything, I just been so
- 1:49:52messed up with all these all these courts and warrants stuff.
- 1:49:55I don't I what was reminding me because it's been so long.
- 1:50:00Yeah. You had a breaking and entering
- 1:50:03and a receiving on that 17 case. Yes, what were the facts of
- 1:50:07that? It was the weed.
- 1:50:08Wacker was my boss's weed. Wackers, he didn't pay me for
- 1:50:11plowing for four months and I took I needed.
- 1:50:14You got into his were every store to stuff and took it.
- 1:50:17I was yes. Yes.
- 1:50:20Long story short. I supposedly I took the two lead
- 1:50:22whackers. And supposedly.
- 1:50:24I sold one of them after he didn't pay me for four months
- 1:50:27and that's where we started at. And what involvement did drugs
- 1:50:32have in that? Not, that was not that had
- 1:50:36nothing to do a drugs. That was me.
- 1:50:41Not getting paid for plowing. because I plowed for him for
- 1:50:44four months straight and he didn't pay me once during that
- 1:50:47time, If you could once go against
- 1:51:08everything, that you probably would normally do.
- 1:51:10And let me, I asked her what I normally do.
- 1:51:13I don't, there is no normal. It was completely have normal
- 1:51:17this place. No, I know it's Zoo here, but so
- 1:51:22I mean if you could love me very my dad and you you have you're
- 1:51:27right about one thing. Okay.
- 1:51:33You haven't? Apparently haven't committed any
- 1:51:37crimes anywhere else. Because sure, as shit, if you
- 1:51:40did, you'd get caught. I'm not this part of criminal, I
- 1:51:48guess you could say. I haven't I haven't and I I'm
- 1:51:51not a threat in any way to society.
- 1:51:54You're a pain in the ass to society, okay?
- 1:51:59No, just to you sir. I'm not sure that.
- 1:52:05I, I would never steal from somebody.
- 1:52:08Again, I learned my lesson on that out of anything that
- 1:52:10happened. I learned I would never touch
- 1:52:13another thing in my entire life. I wouldn't take a pic after
- 1:52:16that. After dealing with all that, I
- 1:52:17wouldn't take a pack of gum. It Dad that did teach me a
- 1:52:21lesson on that part. That would never just steal.
- 1:52:25I'm not a threat to any public at all.
- 1:52:31Been any sort of way. When did you get arrested on
- 1:52:36this thing a couple of weeks ago, where how did that happen?
- 1:52:40I was driving my dad's vehicle to one place to another.
- 1:52:50That was moving some furniture into my place.
- 1:52:54Some more furniture. Without a license like an idiot.
- 1:53:00And I tell you to get a license. Know, I couldn't go with so with
- 1:53:08having warrants. Why don't you have a license?
- 1:53:11Because the orange thing, What else?
- 1:53:15What are the reasons? Don't you have a license?
- 1:53:17There would be no other reason, right now, if I had no warrants,
- 1:53:19I'd go, right and be able to get my license.
- 1:53:22Well, the warrants not stopping me from getting a license,
- 1:53:24right? Yeah.
- 1:53:25Because all the rest me on sight, if I go to try to get a
- 1:53:28ID. That is literally, the only
- 1:53:33thing I will have my license. In days if I was able to get up,
- 1:53:37when's the last time you had a belt, please places 10 years
- 1:53:41ago? you know, the original crime
- 1:54:00that I committed here, And the original thing.
- 1:54:05Is stealing and I learned my lesson on that.
- 1:54:09I absolutely 100% learned what is not, right?
- 1:54:12I'm not cause I'm know, as you can see, I'm no harm to public
- 1:54:17men. And any sir, I don't mean to
- 1:54:19say, man, I I'm no harm to public.
- 1:54:22I just want to go about my life and live at the right way and I
- 1:54:26know how to do that. It just this whole core thing,
- 1:54:29and being tied to its just It's twisted my head backwards.
- 1:54:32I finally got my own place. I just want to bury my father
- 1:54:36and go about that. And you'll never see me again in
- 1:54:40the score. I mean, oh, you'll never see me.
- 1:54:43Those are the famous words. You'll never see me in like
- 1:54:46counting again. That's for sure.
- 1:54:47Well, shit, you were right about that because I didn't seen you
- 1:54:51for two years, right in Lake County.
- 1:54:54I learned where to stay away from sir.
- 1:54:55I know stayed away from here, we stayed away from probation
- 1:54:58department. I scared shitless of any of
- 1:55:00them. Okay.
- 1:55:06This stuff is scared me. The death of me.
- 1:55:08I don't belong in prison. I'm not a person that should go.
- 1:55:12I Don't. I just don't want to lose my
- 1:55:19place and everything. I have worked for because I
- 1:55:21don't have anybody to rely on now or jump back on and I'll
- 1:55:24have my dad. I don't have my mom, my sister's
- 1:55:27dead, I don't have anybody, it's just me and This will rack
- 1:55:33everything that I have tried and this will put me in a bad spot
- 1:55:36then and well of course it will prison puts everybody in a bad
- 1:55:39spot. Some people get out of that bad
- 1:55:43spot. Some people don't. but, Believe
- 1:55:48me. And anybody who I send a prison
- 1:55:51here. Or you can believe her or even
- 1:55:54believe her. Certainly his earned.
- 1:55:57That those prisons stripes. Okay, yeah, there's that.
- 1:56:01I don't send people their lightly I understand.
- 1:56:12All right, I'm going to continue your community control. 10 days
- 1:56:18in jail. Let me see, have on this seven.
- 1:56:25Oh my God. With credit for five.
- 1:56:36You're gonna, you're gonna you're gonna go to signature?
- 1:56:41And get involved in the Dual diagnosis program.
- 1:56:44You're going to follow the recommendations.
- 1:56:46Should I hug you? I'm serious sir.
- 1:56:49Could I hug you or give you a bad Shake something?
- 1:56:52No, No hugs going. Well, I know it's just here.
- 1:56:55Here's what you can do. You can you can show up at
- 1:56:58signature. And show up at probation and get
- 1:57:01your shit together. Okay, that that's the
- 1:57:03equivalent, I never deserve this from you. after all, this should
- 1:57:06I put you through and I've heard a lot worse about older people
- 1:57:10and Believe you believe that Kim people say bad things about me,
- 1:57:15not bad things about you that you don't fuck around, excuse my
- 1:57:18language and you don't mess around.
- 1:57:19So I told you last time you were here, the terms of only one
- 1:57:26doctor only one dentist and one Pharmacy.
- 1:57:29Take the medication is prescribed sign your releases
- 1:57:32full employment, GED to AAS a week and a sponsor and a valid
- 1:57:38license. Now. what I was going to do with
- 1:57:45you was I was going to send you for 14 months with credit for
- 1:57:50about two months, okay? But keep in mind that what's
- 1:57:55available because you've burned me twice, right?
- 1:57:59Now for me, I heard yourself twice.
- 1:58:02Okay, so there's 42 months out there.
- 1:58:05If you if you burn yourself a third time because remember, If
- 1:58:10you decide you're not going to show off, you're going to get
- 1:58:12caught. because you always do every time, And I tell you, one
- 1:58:18person is going to be really pissed about.
- 1:58:19This is Jennifer Oh no, she don't want to see me.
- 1:58:23Okay. All right, Kim, anything else?
- 1:58:34It's time. Is it anything else not?
- 1:58:36Thank you. All right.
- 1:58:38I don't know why he's been so helpful and lenient towards me
- 1:58:41and I know you shouldn't, but I do appreciate it, and I think
- 1:58:45I'm gonna try, I'm not gonna tell you, I'm gonna do it, but
- 1:58:47I'm gonna try my absolute artists to not see you again.
- 1:58:51Talk about it, just do it. JoJo.
- 1:58:53Donald Well, that was super interesting Friends.
- 1:59:00The one thing about O'Donnell's court is it's just an incredibly
- 1:59:04raw place with very, very plain language, but I don't know that
- 1:59:09I have ever heard a defendant who's being Sons asked to hug
- 1:59:14the judge. That is the first at least here
- 1:59:16on TCF. Okie dokie.
- 1:59:18Let's go back to Michigan and let's go back to judge Oakley.
- 1:59:29You guys don't have to jump up. Your own space.
- 1:59:37Bring me. My bible stuff, you know, two
- 1:59:45Donald Trump calls. One is suspicious because it
- 1:59:49came from my clients. All right, but this is the way
- 1:59:53from someone else's house. The second one is about
- 1:59:56incredible because the caller days last night.
- 2:00:02I saw some walked out what he called.
- 2:00:10Either if you stalls, put my climb behind the wheel.
- 2:00:13On the first one says in the carbon Edition or someone on one
- 2:00:17road and there's someone else there's a locked out.
- 2:00:21The police come. They talk to people as well as.
- 2:00:27And he makes mistakes that a, that's what is it ends up
- 2:00:32getting charged with operating as well, operating all foxy, he
- 2:00:37would have never run around eyes but even if he was, doesn't
- 2:00:40really matter in the state, but the law states or his Arabian,
- 2:00:43and this will lessen voluntarily knowingly, intelligent himself
- 2:00:47in termination. They must have been made full
- 2:00:50awareness of both of nature. Everybody band in the
- 2:00:54consequences to abandon The people quote, furthermore and
- 2:01:01Oregon. State that you still have in the
- 2:01:06landing Dodge people outside and argument made up.
- 2:01:09I'm selling. Before the difference here is
- 2:01:12that the people can be ignore cypriol, Stewart, simply there's
- 2:01:17a 11 factors looking at looking, at whether or not read whether
- 2:01:22or not state employees was no only made The age of that's two
- 2:01:29different issues though. First is should they have
- 2:01:31mirandized him? And your argument is Miranda or
- 2:01:35not. Statements aren't usable.
- 2:01:37Yeah. So let's not mix.
- 2:01:40Those two arguments Right. Let's talk about first.
- 2:01:43First one first, let's talk about whether or not they should
- 2:01:46Miranda is a unless you want to just skip that one because I
- 2:01:52think Bert Murray Morgan control on track.
- 2:01:54Okay? But carries out and attracts out
- 2:02:01but Even if the even if you wasn't Miranda's, I think
- 2:02:06sipping out control. the, because she had a looks at
- 2:02:14whether or not Constitutional advice to Brandon.
- 2:02:21Whether a person with Miranda's, it's one of the facts and none
- 2:02:24of the none of the 11 back to full and of himself.
- 2:02:27So now listen to how to say look at all the factors together
- 2:02:31along with everything else. So whether or not, even Randy
- 2:02:35dies, I don't think it's because the issue here, it's just to
- 2:02:39allow you to suppress the city. All right, then, let's talk
- 2:02:42about the other factors. The reality control are the age
- 2:02:49of the age of the Funded the extent of the Police Department,
- 2:02:53police contact. benefits had lack of constitutional advice
- 2:02:57injury at Cox Communication or Bill help with defendant and The
- 2:03:05five private food sleep with medical assistance, my client
- 2:03:09was so lost his point, two days away from her birthday on the
- 2:03:13date of the day of the shot. Stewart's Stewart was an 18 year
- 2:03:19old. Didn't know about tips, 20 year
- 2:03:22old lady eighteen year old. I believe He was young, he
- 2:03:27didn't know. Getting no.
- 2:03:33Just not trying to see. Yeah, he's he's not juvenile but
- 2:03:41he's not, he's not the belt. Holy for.
- 2:03:47He doesn't have any prior police contact.
- 2:03:50He's not aware of his rights completely.
- 2:03:53He wasn't around, guys. He was finally in constipated
- 2:03:57and he was potentially in an accident.
- 2:04:00Did ask about scary was taking to the hospital.
- 2:04:06It was obviously that was 0.25 is exceedingly High.
- 2:04:11It's three times the legal limit to draw.
- 2:04:15I find it. difficult to believe that we say, To God.
- 2:04:23But we have what we're going to take every state, say against
- 2:04:27your events, your own, so interests, and it's the main
- 2:04:34when you add in, you take all of that and you add in the facts of
- 2:04:38the first nine, one one call, there's a I didn't have the data
- 2:04:42since we can fly. The people say, they don't
- 2:04:46understand. The reason for that, the reason
- 2:04:49for that is this wall was when retrieves, the walls falling
- 2:04:54next day. That day from this color is
- 2:04:58actually Lively paid, the phone call, I believe, the phone call
- 2:05:03was made from that phone for two reasons.
- 2:05:06One, there's a screenshot of my clients fall and saying it was
- 2:05:10used to call Uncle blessing and two when you listen to the 911,
- 2:05:19call the individual who Says his name is.
- 2:05:23Brandon is cognitive 911 saying that there's Carnage.
- 2:05:28It's a 300 price against black and there's some walk without
- 2:05:33Road. While he's making that phone
- 2:05:38call always making that only call automated message from this
- 2:05:42Wallace's iPhone breaks in and says, the owner of this iPhone
- 2:05:46would have been involved in a serious car accident.
- 2:05:49They're not with stopping, and they give GPS coordinates and
- 2:05:54those GPS coordinates. Just happened to be Mr. Steve's
- 2:05:58house. So, it was another person in the
- 2:06:03car. It's probably possible that this
- 2:06:06could be, you know, was the driver, put the car on the
- 2:06:08kitchen skull and he made his phone call a later time.
- 2:06:14That's reasonable doubt or trial, I understand them.
- 2:06:17But when you look at that and you put it all together, there
- 2:06:22is reason to doubt my flying statement because of his level
- 2:06:28of intoxication because someone else was there.
- 2:06:30It was essentially driving because no one saw by flying, I
- 2:06:36believe these statement should be suppressed.
- 2:06:38I believe that there are not credible based and when I would
- 2:06:43be students, there's no one would put it Mr. Wallace
- 2:06:46operating at the Anything else at this time, Madame,
- 2:06:53prosecutor. I decided.
- 2:07:00And going to bulshit do. I have obviously way too
- 2:07:03fantastic to try the next five. The next one Festival that I was
- 2:07:08still undergoing through their logical and they're all
- 2:07:10neurological, which creation was unable to fully understand or
- 2:07:15appreciating the situation and a statement that we had made and
- 2:07:19they were to fly to standard then all men in their late,
- 2:07:22teens and early twenties. When you get in a past commit, a
- 2:07:25crime up until they're responsible for taxes going to
- 2:07:29balance. Designated multiple decision.
- 2:07:32You may have said. She's decided to try to drum.
- 2:07:35He made a decision to make you statements.
- 2:07:38He made in decisions such as electing not to complete field,
- 2:07:43sobriety tests made decisions not to when they asked whether
- 2:07:47or sorry where he got the alcohol, people who didn't want
- 2:07:52to call them, he maybe sort of concerned when they ask, what
- 2:07:55friends house he was having to go back to that.
- 2:07:57Tell them, he made all of these decisions that day, I find it
- 2:08:01hard to believe that he can make all of these well-informed
- 2:08:04decisions. If you wasn't able to fully
- 2:08:09understand those statements such as I parked there on drove.
- 2:08:14All this other state has said, if you made it a place to
- 2:08:17Providence vehicle but can't appreciate the state nurse such
- 2:08:20as navigating consent, to do field sobriety system and or a
- 2:08:26computer or anything of that nature.
- 2:08:27He also told police that he was lost, he told police that he
- 2:08:31could change from England. That moms law enforcement
- 2:08:33officers who was making very clearly informed decision based
- 2:08:38upon the situation. Respond.
- 2:08:42Yes, you are one. If I don't believe they can take
- 2:08:46one instance. This case configure.
- 2:08:48Hey, everyone's getting a pretty password committing crimes
- 2:08:52because they're, they're not, they're not informed by that's
- 2:08:56not possible, but it is fully looking at his age, it's one,
- 2:09:00instance, it's of The cypriot Trackers that goes towards,
- 2:09:06towards the entirety. So we're not saying that
- 2:09:08everyone gets free pass because they're not fully formed yet.
- 2:09:13That's a broad generalization. But the people's daughter again,
- 2:09:19a is being one factor. The level of the cops patient
- 2:09:23being a very good essential dependent, doesn't mean it's
- 2:09:26cool. So, I think.
- 2:09:31Everything needs to be looked at much more closely and not just
- 2:09:34Cherry victim. Well, he said he was great.
- 2:09:36So obviously when you know, what was the collaborating surface?
- 2:09:40What was operating, evidence whatsoever, not even the two,
- 2:09:42not only one calls, put it in Los that we saw by police car
- 2:09:47additional car, that would at least circumstances he was
- 2:09:52operating the vehicle people. So racing, the car was was
- 2:10:00Pilot's mother that one of his credit card receive our and that
- 2:10:04he had an evolving his top. And so you know obviously he
- 2:10:07brought I mean, a key fob for a new model car doesn't mean that
- 2:10:12you're operating and you could be sitting in the past, there's
- 2:10:14something to see if someone could push the sorrow or starts
- 2:10:17going to be next to the car, so much to start button and it
- 2:10:20started your operating. Looking at everything.
- 2:10:23Again, looking at the hotel and the circumstances, including the
- 2:10:27suspicious animals suspicious, not on a phone call.
- 2:10:32I think, I believe. Causes a credibility issue with
- 2:10:37Satan of a 125 BAC. Maybe else let's talk
- 2:10:47specifically about Supreme on how it applies to these facts.
- 2:10:54He's shy. Well, I understand it's probably
- 2:11:03explained that he had a week of career as a church murders on
- 2:11:08September, what it has used the, obviously New Hope Police have
- 2:11:12been understood that he could not drink, you know, so that
- 2:11:16each of that drive them even knowledge and wherewithal to
- 2:11:22know what these things were wrong extended.
- 2:11:24His previous experience, please add a, I know that we had no
- 2:11:29prior. So I'm the reason to believe the
- 2:11:31new what, you know, they replace they were fully uniforms.
- 2:11:34And what can a little bit of salted police officers, but I
- 2:11:38didn't expect out of potential updates.
- 2:11:40According to be able to talk here, he almost immediately
- 2:11:43stated that he went on. She said all the other
- 2:11:48statements within the first Global business and their action
- 2:11:51police, the last of any advice bqs or just constitutional
- 2:11:56rights. And again, he that he will be
- 2:12:00Australian, he was lost and he had police background or she was
- 2:12:04family. He made decisions such as not
- 2:12:07doing the PHP. Not doing those right?
- 2:12:10How's all that fit on a little? The fact that he made decisions
- 2:12:15house that fits the piano. I understand his statements that
- 2:12:19he's he knows law enforcement. He you know, he knows cops,
- 2:12:22whatever. I know my rights, whatever that
- 2:12:23is I understand how that would fit to his educational level,
- 2:12:26but how does all this other stuff you're giving me fits to
- 2:12:29Brianna? Having made other decisions.
- 2:12:38All right. Okay, anything else you want to
- 2:12:55say about Supreme? I think he wish, if you think
- 2:13:00they help you, I guess he starts.
- 2:13:06What do you know when he gave us a statement?
- 2:13:11Hey, you did have a very, very, very, very fun.
- 2:13:16Place. Oh but he did but sprinkle and
- 2:13:20the other case People are lost age.
- 2:13:23Probably 15% of traffic stops are drunk driving in order to
- 2:13:30learn investigated drunk. Driving, you have to ask
- 2:13:33questions of me. Adhere didn't tell the officer
- 2:13:37that we needed to sort of medical intervention about
- 2:13:41camping. Our is the investigation.
- 2:13:45Optionality. When we get equal force
- 2:13:48assistance after Neo safety would not see.
- 2:13:51It is a trained and certified EFT on the defendant could not
- 2:13:56articulate what was wrong with them other than not feeling
- 2:13:59well. I think that that would be less
- 2:14:03than okay. All right, anything else?
- 2:14:09Yes, you are understanding that. Voluntary Church of Google or
- 2:14:17just waiting for. Oh, we're not talking about
- 2:14:24where the front of the paper talking about the statements
- 2:14:28that were made. That link that link on to these
- 2:14:32Charities. And again I think there's
- 2:14:36cheating of 20 years old one, two five alcohol, you know under
- 2:14:43under household. It Identity looking at taking
- 2:14:49that into consideration with these statements.
- 2:14:54We know what I'm saying. It's true and there's no other
- 2:14:56cooperating evidence to put me back and do vehicle operated.
- 2:15:01All we have is its ease so I'll get its we know what?
- 2:15:07The I believe statements can't be looked at a scrap.
- 2:15:15Anything else? In the Oaks, right?
- 2:15:18It's closed calls. But now your motion, I encourage
- 2:15:21you to appeal it. Anything else?
- 2:15:25Good luck. Why am I doing an arraignment
- 2:15:34on? Line.
- 2:15:37Here. Is this one of them?
- 2:15:41This one that I got? Acne, the game ended up.
- 2:15:44No. Okay.
- 2:15:51I only have this one. I'm ready on Ackman.
- 2:15:57Thank you, Jane, you started our leasing love.
- 2:16:00Yes, sir. Judge Wayne County is not on
- 2:16:03Zoom yet. Those are random.
- 2:16:04Know is that Wayne County? Yeah.
- 2:16:08Yeah. But that's all I know.
- 2:16:14Aaron Frazier. Figure out, what's ready?
- 2:16:18And one, and I'll be happy to do.
- 2:16:21Come good morning Council. Yeah.
- 2:16:24How you been haven't seen you for a while?
- 2:16:29Good. Okay.
- 2:16:30He busy. Good.
- 2:16:35No more fun? Yeah.
- 2:16:39All right. So tell me about Mr. Fraser, and
- 2:16:41his file. So if it is all in or not
- 2:16:51guilty, playing we move forward, He's 40 and 848 is 5 children,
- 2:17:0512 17th. Coming from our leadership,
- 2:17:15hiring a jumper. Okay, basically, he's got, he
- 2:17:19got this species. The traffic looks back, and the
- 2:17:24basically had a higher back who's coming from his nephew's
- 2:17:28birthday party. They give us a call for Traffic
- 2:17:36Control guys. Yep.
- 2:17:38So I talked about it in the discovery.
- 2:17:40I emailed them, the discoveries well and so he's really just put
- 2:17:45it good. All right, Mr. Frazier, did you
- 2:17:48discuss your rights and options with Council?
- 2:17:50Yes. You understand.
- 2:17:51Those rights and options. You understand the possible
- 2:17:53penalty from Pair of driving understanding that, are you
- 2:17:56pleading guilty to that charge freely and voluntarily today?
- 2:17:59All right, did you drive a vehicle in Sumter touch my
- 2:18:01February 14th 2026 prior to driving to drink alcohol
- 2:18:05counselors or blood tests? We just stipulate results were.
- 2:18:14You, you think the facts have been met for the impaired?
- 2:18:17So why I'll dismiss the intoxicated, the high BAC and
- 2:18:20the Civil infraction. Mr. Frazier, I'm going to send
- 2:18:23you down stairs, to make an appointment, with our probation
- 2:18:25department to come. Back for a screen in the
- 2:18:27meantime, I'm going to put you on a personal Bond.
- 2:18:29Two conditions that are pretty obvious.
- 2:18:31Stay out of trouble and show up for court.
- 2:18:33Third one is do not purchase possessor, consume and you mood
- 2:18:36altering substance unless you got a doctor's prescription for
- 2:18:39the substance. Can you live with my rules?
- 2:18:41Raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm and
- 2:18:44acknowledge the debt payable Court amount of 1,000 if you
- 2:18:47screw up on bond, Any questions Council?
- 2:18:55All right. Who's got him on a soberly?
- 2:19:02We don't have monster overlink. You mean you did that on your
- 2:19:08own? Proactive.
- 2:19:12Yeah. Okay.
- 2:19:13Make sure you let probation know that when you come in for your
- 2:19:15interview, if you go down, you'll have someone put on
- 2:19:20picking that date. So go down to probation, all
- 2:19:23right? Have a great day people.
- 2:19:24You're welcome. Delaware.
- 2:19:28All right, let's change things up, Lansing, Michigan, Tony
- 2:19:33Flores. That is.
- 2:19:39People, the state of Michigan versus Zachary Schmidt. 12
- 2:19:46appearances for the record. Misfortune Guild.
- 2:19:54Hey, Linda Sheridan. Donnelly on behalf of the
- 2:19:55definite Zachary Schmidt, who is appearing separately from MDOC
- 2:19:58and sir, you are? Zachary Schmidt?
- 2:20:00Is that correct? That's correct.
- 2:20:03All right, thank you. This time set for probable
- 2:20:06conference probable cause conference.
- 2:20:08Misfortunate Gil. How we proceeding at?
- 2:20:15This. So we're gonna.
- 2:20:15Is that a fair statement, Ms? Donnelly.
- 2:20:18Yes, your honour. Hearing exam was set last week,
- 2:20:21on March 27th. You'd like to continue to that,
- 2:20:24right? We have the written date set for
- 2:20:27next week, Parts 27th. So we'll do a, we'll leave on
- 2:20:32for the previously scheduled prelim for March 27th.
- 2:20:38At. The premium scheduled for 9 and
- 2:20:42the rent is 8:30, okay? so, at 9:00, Anything else for
- 2:20:49the record in dock in, 260 036 this has been left for
- 2:20:54Examination for next week. Next Friday at 9:00.
- 2:20:59Anything else was Fortuna? Go not for the people stop me.
- 2:21:02Not for defense. All right.
- 2:21:03Mr. Smith. We'll see you next week live on
- 2:21:06March 27th at 9:00. Thank you for your parents
- 2:21:08today. Thank you, your honor.
- 2:21:12Does Cunningham nearly brought up?
- 2:21:16But kind of, so we can do that. You want to do that.
- 2:21:19Which one Cunningham here on her?
- 2:21:24Yes. All right, so we're on the
- 2:21:36record in Dhaka. 26 is 00390. That is people the state of
- 2:21:42Michigan versus Jasper Cunningham appearance of the
- 2:21:46record Mrs. Fortune, go Hayley Fortuna Jill on behalf of the
- 2:21:51people. The Stanley assistant public
- 2:21:52defender, Sarah Donnelly on behalf of the defense for
- 2:21:55Cunningham who's standing to my right and sir you are Jasper.
- 2:21:57Cunningham is that correct? Yes sir.
- 2:21:59All right, thank you. This is the time set for plumber
- 2:22:01examination today. That's for two and a girl how we
- 2:22:04proceeding your honor at this time.
- 2:22:05The people need to ask for a one-time a tournament.
- 2:22:08It appears there was an issue with our subpoena and the
- 2:22:11correct officers were not subpoenaed for today exam.
- 2:22:16Again, I would ask for this one time in German and I would
- 2:22:20ensure that they were here at the next preliminary examination
- 2:22:23day. All right?
- 2:22:24And you've you've given you've given notice to that to Ms.
- 2:22:28Donnelly respond to Stanley. Thank you, your honor.
- 2:22:31So we will be objecting to that. A German today is a day set for
- 2:22:34a preliminary exam. The defendant Mr. Cunningham has
- 2:22:37a right to have this exam within 21 days of arrangement.
- 2:22:40So that being today's date. We were asked this space to be
- 2:22:43dismissed without prejudice. All right.
- 2:22:44Thank you, be Mr. Cunningham is is not incarcerated.
- 2:22:49He got a PR Bond so we are going I will grant the one time a
- 2:22:54journeyman. Or a good costume.
- 2:22:58Mr. Cunningham has no doesn't waive any rights.
- 2:23:05So, the people can. Subpoena the required Witnesses.
- 2:23:19And then we will reschedule the prelim, you'll need two weeks
- 2:23:23for the, for the freedom to please. 27.
- 2:23:29Okay, so March 27th. At 9:00.
- 2:23:37This is a good cause of German based on the request from the
- 2:23:40prosecutor's office to subpoena Witnesses for the pulmonary
- 2:23:44examination. Mr. Cunningham's, not waiving
- 2:23:46any rights because it is a good cause of German and we've
- 2:23:49adjourned to March 27th at 9:00 anything else for the record in
- 2:23:53docket 260390, just for tune. A girl, not for the people.
- 2:23:57You're honestly not for defense. All right, Mr. Cunningham, we'll
- 2:24:00see you on March 27th at 9:00. Okay, thank you.
- 2:24:16Know, I need to talk to him. Okay.
- 2:24:20Oh responding is on yeah, okay I need to talk then we should be
- 2:24:25able to call Archer. Just watch her.
- 2:24:30Are you ready on Archer? And you'll have to mute him.
- 2:24:38Yes, no, thank you. All right, let's call.
- 2:24:41Jose Archer So we're on the record in docket 260 zero five
- 2:24:47six nine that is people the state of Michigan versus Jose
- 2:24:51Archer. Here says for the record this
- 2:24:55fraternity kill Haley for two together on behalf of the people
- 2:24:57miss wanji. Good morning.
- 2:24:59Yona Millennial deewani for me to Archer who's appearing from
- 2:25:02the jail. And sir, you are Jose Luis
- 2:25:07Archer. Yes, sir.
- 2:25:11All right. You can hear me.
- 2:25:11All right, Mr. Archer. Yes, and all right.
- 2:25:15Thank you. This is the time set for a
- 2:25:17probable cause conference. It's for tuning Gil how he
- 2:25:20proceeding at this time, you're on we would be asking that this
- 2:25:23matter be left on for preliminary examination and
- 2:25:27offer has been extended to a domestic violent second that
- 2:25:32offer would have of course remain open into the beginning
- 2:25:34of the preliminary exam. Is that a fair statement was
- 2:25:37watching for next week. Thank you.
- 2:25:41All right, so let's leave on for plumbing examinations for March.
- 2:25:50All right. The 19th, the 13th.
- 2:25:59The 19th. March 19th. 2026 at 8:30.
- 2:26:09So we'll leave on for polymer Examination, for March 19th at
- 2:26:138:30. Anything else for the record in,
- 2:26:15260, 0569 and Miss Fortuna, go not for the people miss, you
- 2:26:20know, for the difference in a. Thank you.
- 2:26:21All right, I'll see you next Thursday morning at 8:30.
- 2:26:26Thank you for your parents today.
- 2:26:27Mr. Archer. And we now have Mr. Jackson.
- 2:26:35All right, friends, let's Head, South Fulton County, Georgia,
- 2:26:39judgment, Bernie. Which position is this?
- 2:26:46Number one, Mr. Bradford. All right.
- 2:26:54He Smith. Are you ready?
- 2:26:56Great. Let's get on the record with
- 2:26:58position one. It's 25 SC. 007 7500 State
- 2:27:04versus Bradford. Mr. Bradford is in court with
- 2:27:06Ms. Would his counsel Ms. Smith is here for the state and Mr.
- 2:27:10Bradford, my understanding is that you are prepared to enter a
- 2:27:15plea in your case, rather than go to trials.
- 2:27:16Is that correct? Yes.
- 2:27:17Okay, Miss Smith is going to put you under oath and just a
- 2:27:21moment. Ask you questions about you
- 2:27:23about your case, you need to answer those truthfully, and
- 2:27:26completely. You also need to let me know if
- 2:27:28you've got your own questions. If something comes up and like
- 2:27:31wait that's not what I thought was gonna happen or just don't
- 2:27:33make sense. We let me know that.
- 2:27:35Yes, great. And I'll try to explain it if I
- 2:27:37can and we'll see if we can get through this Miss Smith.
- 2:27:41Thank you, Mr. Bradford, please raise your right hand.
- 2:27:45Do you swear or affirm that the testimony before this court
- 2:27:50shall be the truth? The whole truth and nothing.
- 2:27:52But yes. Okay.
- 2:28:00Are you at this time? Taking or under the influence of
- 2:28:02any alcohol, drugs, or medicine know, and is there any
- 2:28:06medication that you would normally take that you haven't
- 2:28:08been giving today? No, How old are you?
- 2:28:11And how far have you gone to school?
- 2:28:1362 one year in the college? Are you able to read write and
- 2:28:18understand the English language? Yes.
- 2:28:20The understanding that you have the right to plead are the
- 2:28:23guilty or not guilty to these charges.
- 2:28:24And if you plead not guilty or remain, silent, you may receive
- 2:28:27a jury trial. Yes.
- 2:28:30Have you had enough time to speak with your attorney?
- 2:28:32About all of the facts and circumstances known to you
- 2:28:34regarding the charges of this? Indictment?
- 2:28:36Yes. We need more time to discuss
- 2:28:39your case with your attorney know.
- 2:28:42And are you satisfied with her services?
- 2:28:45Yes. I'm sorry are you satisfied?
- 2:28:47Your client has a full understanding of this
- 2:28:49proceeding. Hey all, do you wait for more
- 2:28:52reading of the indictment in any and all defense in the
- 2:28:54indictment for the purposes of this?
- 2:28:56Plea we do just a Bradford. Do you remember being arrested
- 2:29:00on these charges? I was never arrested on it.
- 2:29:03You're in custody. Now, did you come from another
- 2:29:06jurisdiction? They are took me from West
- 2:29:10Virginia and brought me here, okay?
- 2:29:12So then in 25 on future, they want, they said got it.
- 2:29:20So there's a commitment date of when you made landfall here of
- 2:29:28November 21st, 25, that would have been, you're getting here
- 2:29:31from West. Virginia not been here from West
- 2:29:35Virginia since August, they sent me to Truman.
- 2:29:42PC. And they hold me there and then
- 2:29:46they brought me here, okay? November November is when you
- 2:29:50got here, okay, the incident that we're going to talk about
- 2:29:55today, is from long, long ago, 2017, what you're saying is that
- 2:30:01you were not arrested in 2017 in connection with whatever may
- 2:30:06have happened at the Life Church.
- 2:30:07I've never been arrested for that.
- 2:30:08Okay, we're not aware of any warrants related to this other
- 2:30:13than what got you picked up in West Virginia.
- 2:30:15Are you have any other wants? No.
- 2:30:18Okay. Mr. Bradford, do you understand
- 2:30:22that? This is an negotiated plea of
- 2:30:24guilty, which means that the state River recommends to the
- 2:30:26court of sentence of five years, probation?
- 2:30:28Yes. Are you aware that?
- 2:30:30The court is not have to accept that recommendation and at the
- 2:30:33court, consensus you to the maximum on each charge and can
- 2:30:36run those sentences consecutively?
- 2:30:38Yes, you understand that if you're placed on probation of
- 2:30:42any kind, you cannot violate any criminal laws of any
- 2:30:45governmental unit or any special conditions of probation without
- 2:30:48being subject to replication for the balance of the sentence.
- 2:30:51Yes. Do you understand that this is a
- 2:30:54guilty plea, which is permanently recorded on your
- 2:30:56criminal history. Yes, you also understand that,
- 2:31:00if you charged with another crime in the future, that this
- 2:31:03plea may be used to enhance that sentencing.
- 2:31:05Even on the federal case. Yes.
- 2:31:08Are you currently on probation? Know.
- 2:31:11Are you a United States citizen? Yes.
- 2:31:15Do you understand that there may be other adverse or unfavorable
- 2:31:18consequences as a result of this guilty?
- 2:31:20Plea conviction just as there would be following a conviction
- 2:31:23from a trial. For example, your guilty, may
- 2:31:26affect your right to vote, the right to Hope public office, the
- 2:31:29right to serve on a jury, the right to obtain a passport or
- 2:31:33the ability to obtain employment.
- 2:31:37Coming to repeat it. I guess that last one, okay, one
- 2:31:42of the effects of your guilty, plea would be your ability to
- 2:31:45obtain employment. Yes.
- 2:31:49Do you understand that by pleading guilty to a felony?
- 2:31:51You cannot use receive possess transport, or own a firearm and
- 2:31:57that if you did, you could be charged with another felony
- 2:31:59offense. Yes, do you understand that you
- 2:32:03waive any and all defenses? Including any mental health
- 2:32:05defenses by entering this? Plea of Gucci?
- 2:32:07Yes. Do you understand that by
- 2:32:10pleading guilty you're giving up the following rights, the right
- 2:32:13field trial by jury. The right to remain silent and
- 2:32:16not incriminate yourself. The right to see and hear the
- 2:32:19witnesses called to testify against you.
- 2:32:22The right to the assistance of counsel either hired by you, or
- 2:32:25court appointed. If you cannot afford an
- 2:32:27attorney, the right to the presumption of innocence, which
- 2:32:30means that the state must prove, Beyond a reasonable doubt that
- 2:32:32you're guilty of these charges. The right to testify on your own
- 2:32:35behalf or remain silent, the right to present other evidence
- 2:32:39of your own in your own Witnesses and the right to
- 2:32:42appeal of convicted of these charges after a trial.
- 2:32:44Yes. I'm sorry, you satisfied your
- 2:32:47client understands that these are the rights that they'll be
- 2:32:49waving by entering this guilty plea, I am.
- 2:32:52Mr. Bradford has anyone for us threatened or promise?
- 2:32:55You need to get you to answer into this guilty plea today.
- 2:32:58No. That's two.
- 2:33:01Indictment number 25. Sea 007750.
- 2:33:05How do you please account one burglary in the second degree
- 2:33:09and count to Criminal Trespass and damage to property?
- 2:33:13Guilty. Is this guilty, plea freely and
- 2:33:17voluntarily giving with full knowledge of the charges against
- 2:33:19you. She?
- 2:33:23Says do you understand that you do not have a right to appeal
- 2:33:25your guilty? Plea conviction but if you
- 2:33:27believe that there have been some type of error, you can
- 2:33:29apply to the appropriate Appellate Court to request a
- 2:33:32discretionary appeal. Yes, do you understand that
- 2:33:37there has to be completed within 30 days from today?
- 2:33:39Yes. Do you understand that you have
- 2:33:42only four years from today for felony charge and 12 months from
- 2:33:45today, for misdemeanor charge to file a habeas?
- 2:33:48Corpus petition challenging, the voluntary of this plea?
- 2:33:51Yes. Thank you, Mr. Burford, yarn at
- 2:33:54this case, for the proceed to trial the state, which show that
- 2:33:57on December 23rd. 2017, officer coping with the Atlanta Police
- 2:34:02Department was dispatched to three to four, three, Stone,
- 2:34:06Road, South West, that's in Atlanta, Georgia also in Fulton
- 2:34:09County, when the officers got there, they observed a window
- 2:34:13that was broken and also blood, that was on that window on.
- 2:34:18They were able to see a trail of toys coming out of the church,
- 2:34:22and at this time, no defending was on the scene and no one was
- 2:34:25on the scene. However, as I stated blood was
- 2:34:28on the window, a black cell phone was laying on the ground,
- 2:34:31a golden necklace and a child, a trail of toys was wrapping
- 2:34:34around. From the window outside of the
- 2:34:37church. The officer searched the area
- 2:34:39but did not find the defendant. However, crime scene analyst
- 2:34:43came on the scene and took a sample of that blood that was on
- 2:34:46the window and it was later confirmed by gbi back in 2025
- 2:34:50that the blood belonged to the defendant traveling Bradford at
- 2:34:54that time officers sought out a warrant for Mr. Bradford and
- 2:34:57he's eventually arrested or taken into custody for these
- 2:35:00charges. And those are the facts of the
- 2:35:02case, regarding the negotiated plea between the state and the
- 2:35:06defense. We've agreed to a sentence of
- 2:35:08five years probation for count one and 12 months probation for
- 2:35:11count, two for both counts to rent, concern for a total of
- 2:35:14five years probation for the defendant to complete and
- 2:35:18anti-theft course for that to be no contact with the victim or
- 2:35:22any representative representatives of the church.
- 2:35:24Stay away from the incident location in reserve restitution
- 2:35:29for the broken window and toys that were stolen from the church
- 2:35:32that night, that'll be off from the State honor.
- 2:35:35Right. Ms. Stallworth, do you have any
- 2:35:39criminal history information on Mr?
- 2:35:41Bradford. Yes, your honor.
- 2:35:43He has 24 Cycles total eight from the state of New York.
- 2:35:46Three from West Virginia. There are six convictions
- 2:35:49outside of the ten year period. I can list them off if you
- 2:35:52would. Like I just like the most recent
- 2:35:55two, there's one in 09 out of Douglas County for burglary and
- 2:36:00one in 07 from Cobb County, for burglary and personal inning
- 2:36:04officer Buffalo destruction of law enforcement officer criminal
- 2:36:07damage to property, second degree, giving Falls named and
- 2:36:10false statement or riding. Got it.
- 2:36:13And what is what's the most recent cycle?
- 2:36:27This one, that is open before that it was one in 2019 out of
- 2:36:31Floyd County. And that's true across all three
- 2:36:35states. The most recent one is the Floyd
- 2:36:38County one. The fusion.
- 2:36:44First Virginia was July of 2025. that was the last one in that
- 2:36:49county and then in New York, I think it was a one.
- 2:36:58Oh 2014. I'm sorry.
- 2:36:59Okay it was a misdemeanor assault.
- 2:37:03Thank you so much, you're welcome.
- 2:37:06This would thank you. Judge to Mr. Bradford is 62
- 2:37:09years old. He does have college, education.
- 2:37:11He does construction work. He's eager to get out and back
- 2:37:15to work. He's been in custody here, 112
- 2:37:19days. So he was booked in.
- 2:37:20As you heard on November 21st, I do believe he should with me.
- 2:37:23He was incarcerated in West Virginia since last summer.
- 2:37:26So he wanted to make sure that that was on the record and
- 2:37:29otherwise we would just ask that you accept the state
- 2:37:32recommendation, okay? Mr. Bradford where will home?
- 2:37:36Be when you get out this plea gets you out.
- 2:37:38So I don't know it'll be today should be tomorrow, I'm hearing
- 2:37:44about different states with which you have connections,
- 2:37:46where you plan on going. Well, I Wrong Georgia.
- 2:37:50I'll be here in Rome Georgia until I get an impact compound,
- 2:37:54but my house is in West Virginia and all my tubes and everything,
- 2:37:58I do federal work, I remodeled projects.
- 2:38:02Okay? Yes, so your goal would be to
- 2:38:05get back to West Virginia. Yes.
- 2:38:07All right, you have a place though in Rome to stay.
- 2:38:10Yes. Okay, that's good.
- 2:38:12Because it sounds like, you know, you can get your probation
- 2:38:16transfer to another jurisdiction, meaning another
- 2:38:19state, but it takes a few weeks, there's paperwork involved, Etc.
- 2:38:22It's not right away. And while you're waiting, you
- 2:38:25need to be here in Georgia, but it sounds like you can get a
- 2:38:28roof over your head, but I'll just be enrolled which is fine.
- 2:38:31That's in Georgia, okay? Do you have any questions about
- 2:38:36anything we discussed? Okay. any reason you would need
- 2:38:45to be in Georgia after you go back to The your place in West
- 2:38:55Virginia, only time I will be coming through Georgia to see my
- 2:38:59kids and we have worked here. We was we had done projects up
- 2:39:05in Rome. Georgia, we have remodel the
- 2:39:07projects in East Rome. I'm Ted your kids are where in
- 2:39:13Georgia. I have my oldest daughter is
- 2:39:17right here and Fulton County. My baby daughter is is in a
- 2:39:22grown And my other daughter isn't going to okay?
- 2:39:28And what what age range are we talking about?
- 2:39:32You're 62. So your kids all 30, 16.
- 2:39:35Okay. 15 16 18. Okay.
- 2:39:39All right. Thank you.
- 2:39:40That's helpful, Mr. Bradford. This is a unique case.
- 2:39:45We don't get a lot of these where a coda sit from long, long
- 2:39:48ago, surfaces and then the state in dates, unless it's like a
- 2:39:52dead body kind of case. But this was a church.
- 2:39:54I understand why this state went forward on this.
- 2:39:57I do find there's a factual basis for the two charges and
- 2:40:01your police to the two charges. I also find that you're pleased
- 2:40:04are knowing and voluntary. Meaning you've understood what
- 2:40:07we talked about and no one's forcing you to enter the police.
- 2:40:10Is that correct? I will accept the plea then is
- 2:40:13wood. Can someone in my office sign in
- 2:40:15that for you the Smith and Mr? Bradford, can we sign for you?
- 2:40:19Yes we'll do that. I'm going to set you Mr.
- 2:40:23Bradford. Count one.
- 2:40:25To five years to serve three months.
- 2:40:29I know you've done more than three months, but it's going to
- 2:40:31be complicated to sort out. The credit you get for the time
- 2:40:35you were in West Virginia, but you get credit for the more than
- 2:40:39three months. You've been here and that just
- 2:40:41Rings your probation a little bit, not much but hey, every
- 2:40:43month counts. So five years to serve three
- 2:40:46months balance, on probation. Special condition of probation
- 2:40:50is that too. There are two of them one.
- 2:40:54Is that you stay away from the Life Church, like I make it
- 2:40:58easier because number two is that you will stay out of the
- 2:41:02state of Georgia. Other than the roam judicial
- 2:41:06circuit, which is Floyd County. So you can go there.
- 2:41:09Now, that's going to be okay and you can stay there until you get
- 2:41:12your probation transferred, to West, Virginia.
- 2:41:14If you want to come back here to visit family, you go to Floyd
- 2:41:17and people come to visit you, you know, you don't go to
- 2:41:20Gwinnett. You don't go to Fulton.
- 2:41:21If you're going to be in Georgia, there is no issue if
- 2:41:24You're employed County if you're outside of Floyd County and you
- 2:41:27were to get pulled over for a speeding ticket or anything like
- 2:41:30that. That would be a violation of
- 2:41:32your probation and the state could I don't know if they would
- 2:41:35but they could say let's get a warrant and and do something
- 2:41:38about that. So you can pass through
- 2:41:40obviously because there's probably an airplane in Rome,
- 2:41:44but not the kind of airport you're going to fly into.
- 2:41:46But if you're staying in Georgia, Floyd County, only The
- 2:41:51rest of the countries, yours. All right.
- 2:41:56We met regroup if there is restitution but I'll leave that
- 2:41:59to the state and you'll need to work with Georgia, Probation to
- 2:42:05figure out the paperwork, you need to do through icons to get
- 2:42:08your case transferred, to West, Virginia, the possibility to get
- 2:42:12restitution way because right now I have nothing.
- 2:42:16I all my money went to Having my ex-wife.
- 2:42:22Very, so two things one. I'm sorry about the burial to
- 2:42:26what I'm going to do is wave your probation supervision fees,
- 2:42:31that's something different than restitution.
- 2:42:33I'm gonna waive, your probation supervision fees for the first
- 2:42:37two months while you get back on your feet.
- 2:42:38You may already be back in West Virginia by then, but if you're
- 2:42:42still in Georgia, you'll not have to pay the supervision fees
- 2:42:45for the first two months. Restitution is different.
- 2:42:48I don't know that we'll have the hearing, but if we do, you would
- 2:42:52have the opportunity to present your ability to pay.
- 2:42:55So the state would have to prove up amounts owed.
- 2:42:58How much it cost to fix the window?
- 2:42:59We were, we lost these toys, whatever it would be.
- 2:43:02I'm gonna make a number up, that's a 1000 bucks.
- 2:43:05You're not expected to write then stroke, a check for 1,000
- 2:43:09bucks, you would pay as you are able over time as you are
- 2:43:12earning supporting your family Etc.
- 2:43:14So it's something you'd be obligated to pay but not all at
- 2:43:19once and it never. Results in you going back to
- 2:43:21jail. We don't do it that way, but if
- 2:43:24you are spending money on fancy new cars, we might say, you know
- 2:43:27what, you can't do that anymore. You got to pay 100 bucks a week,
- 2:43:31going forward to do that, but that's only if we end up having
- 2:43:34the restitution hearing and I don't know that we will.
- 2:43:36Okay, this would anything else. Thank you, Miss Smith, thank
- 2:43:41you. All right, you're gonna need to
- 2:43:43report to probation within 48 hours after your release Ms.
- 2:43:48Simpson, who was with probation is going to come, talk to you
- 2:43:50about that. Because if you're going straight
- 2:43:52to Rome, she'll let you know where in Floyd County, the
- 2:43:55probation office is He is oh, I meant to ask you.
- 2:44:02These are old convictions, but he's you're on probation and
- 2:44:05Floyd County. Probation.
- 2:44:10Okay, it must have been a short, piecey state.
- 2:44:21Government of 28 section got it and when you completed it, oh
- 2:44:25well Mr. Bradford, you weren't quite candid with me.
- 2:44:28You made it sound like man. It took forever to get to Fulton
- 2:44:31because it was a long trip from West Virginia, but you had
- 2:44:34another stop know because when I was told, I was a future for
- 2:44:38Fulton County, not for Floyd County, because my probation was
- 2:44:41finished and Floyd County. Well, I guess they saw
- 2:44:45differently and you spent some time up there, don't change
- 2:44:47anything here, but it sounds like, you know, where probation
- 2:44:50is employed. Yes, I know where probation is.
- 2:44:52That's where you need to go within 48 Hours of your release.
- 2:44:55That's it. When in Rome, friends, winning
- 2:45:03Rome, let's go back to Ohio and JoJo Donald
- 2:45:34His answer was the effect of well not really or something
- 2:45:37like that and I asked him. What occurred and he really
- 2:45:41didn't seem anything. Yes, sir.
- 2:45:43So Why don't we do this before, we?
- 2:45:47Because a week, if you're going to plead guilty, we have to go
- 2:45:50through the Acknowledgment and waiver of Rights once again and
- 2:45:56then get to the facts of what occurred.
- 2:46:00In order for there to be finding a guilty.
- 2:46:02So, Why don't we do this? Why don't we preliminarily have
- 2:46:06you tell me because you wrote something down?
- 2:46:09What occurred and then we'll see if we go forward with the
- 2:46:12acknowledgment waiver of Rights. So why don't you tell me
- 2:46:16whatever it is? You want to tell me?
- 2:46:19Yes, you're on today. I'll write this letter to
- 2:46:22honorable Judge and understanding.
- 2:46:24That's a day. I will be answering Goods.
- 2:46:26He plea of judgment. On July 25th and moment,
- 2:46:29absolute fairing panic. I made the Roman decision
- 2:46:32operating my vehicle and very dangerous to speed.
- 2:46:34I'm not realize that no matter how Freight I was that doesn't
- 2:46:38excuse, my actions. I want to take full
- 2:46:41responsibility for my. Laps and judgment your honor.
- 2:46:45I want to express deep remorse to law enforcement officers and
- 2:46:49everyone else who were involved or could have been involved.
- 2:46:52And just incident, I take full accountability from my laps and
- 2:46:55judgment on. You know, our next time it is
- 2:46:57best to stop and follow the rules of traffic and law.
- 2:47:00Thank you for your time, respect for the College Plan.
- 2:47:03Okay, so Mr. Bland so this Panic set in when you saw that they
- 2:47:06were trying to pull you over. Yes sir.
- 2:47:08Okay. All right.
- 2:47:10How how old are you 24 and how far did you go through school?
- 2:47:15High school. Are you a US citizen?
- 2:47:18Yes, sir. And you're able to read write
- 2:47:20and understanding the English language.
- 2:47:21Yes, sir. Prior to come in here in the
- 2:47:24last 48 hours. If you take any drugs, alcohol
- 2:47:27or any prescription medication? No sir.
- 2:47:31Have you ever been diagnosed with?
- 2:47:32No, sorry. No, you got a copy of this
- 2:47:36charge, right? This invite me.
- 2:47:38Yes. Do you have any questions about
- 2:47:42it? I'm sorry before I accept your
- 2:47:44guilty, plea and I need to determine that, you know, and
- 2:47:47understand the constitutional rights, you'll be waving the
- 2:47:51consequences of your guilty, plea and the maximum penalty I
- 2:47:54could give you and I need to be satisfied that she pleased being
- 2:47:57made freely knowingly. And voluntarily.
- 2:48:00So I'm going to ask you questions.
- 2:48:01If you don't understand a question, stop me.
- 2:48:04If you want to talk to Mr. Mulkey, some more, let me know
- 2:48:07that and I'll give you more time.
- 2:48:09Do you understand that? Yes, sir.
- 2:48:11You have a constitutional right to have a trial either to me or
- 2:48:15to a jury of 12 Lake County Citizens.
- 2:48:17Do you understand that right? Yes.
- 2:48:18Are you waving that, right? Yes, if you go to a jury trial,
- 2:48:22all 12 members must agree, to a guilty verdict before you can be
- 2:48:25found guilty. Do you understand that right?
- 2:48:27Yes, sir. Are you waving that, right?
- 2:48:29Yes. If you go to trial, the
- 2:48:31prosecutor will call witnesses to testify against you?
- 2:48:34Do you want to understand that the prosecutor has to prove you
- 2:48:36guilty Beyond A Reasonable Doubt at a trial?
- 2:48:39Yes, after the Witnesses are done.
- 2:48:41Testifying for the prosecutor. You have the constitutional
- 2:48:44right to have your lawyer cross exam on the witnesses.
- 2:48:46Do you understand that right? Yes, sir.
- 2:48:48Are you waving that way? Yes, if you go to trial of the
- 2:48:52right to have witnesses, come here and testify for you.
- 2:48:54Do you understand that right? Yes, sir.
- 2:48:56Are you waiting there, right? Yes.
- 2:48:57If those Witnesses refused to come to court and I'll issue an
- 2:49:00order. That's called a subpoena to make
- 2:49:02them come here and testify. You want to understand that,
- 2:49:04right? Yes, sir.
- 2:49:05Are you waiting that, right? Yes.
- 2:49:07You have the right to testify a trial if you want to.
- 2:49:10Do you understand that, right? Yes.
- 2:49:12Are you waving that right? Yes, you have the constitutional
- 2:49:15right to not testify trial, if you do not want to do you
- 2:49:18understand that, right? Yes.
- 2:49:19Sir. Are you waiting that, right?
- 2:49:21Yes. If you decided not to testify a
- 2:49:24trial, nobody is allowed to comment on that decision.
- 2:49:26Do you understand that? Yes, sir, if you go to trial on
- 2:49:30your phone guilty of the right, to appeal, the guilty, finding
- 2:49:32do you understand that, right? Yes, sir.
- 2:49:34Are you waving that right? Yes.
- 2:49:37If you file an appeal, you have the constitutional right to have
- 2:49:39a lawyer represent you in the appeal.
- 2:49:41Do you understand that right? Are you waving that, right?
- 2:49:44Yes. If you could not afford to hire
- 2:49:46a lawyer, one will one would be provided at no cost to you.
- 2:49:49Do you understand that? Yes, sir, if you found appeal,
- 2:49:52you're entitled to get a transcript of all the hearing.
- 2:49:54And this case, you understand that right?
- 2:49:56Yes, sir. Are you waving that, right?
- 2:49:58Yes. If you could not afford, a copy
- 2:50:00of the transcription to you free of charge.
- 2:50:03Do you want to understand that? Yes, sir.
- 2:50:05If you click guilty today, you do not have the right to appeal
- 2:50:08the guilty. Finding do you understand that?
- 2:50:10That's our, do you have any questions about any of these
- 2:50:12rights? No.
- 2:50:13Sorry. You still want to plead guilty
- 2:50:15to this chart? Yes, sir.
- 2:50:17If you want to understand by pleading guilty, you're fully
- 2:50:19admitting your guilt to the charge.
- 2:50:21Yes. You understand by pleading
- 2:50:23guilty to the spelling of voluntarily giving up your
- 2:50:26freedom for whatever period of time, I could sense you to
- 2:50:28prison to jail or to Community Control.
- 2:50:32Yes, sir. No, this feeler to comply with
- 2:50:34the water or signal of a police officer, is a felony of the
- 2:50:37third degree. It carries these 60 month
- 2:50:39maximum prison sentence. And a 10,000 dollar maximum find
- 2:50:44you, understand that? Yes, sir.
- 2:50:51The class two is at a three to life.
- 2:50:54Yes, around you understand that? The conviction on this case
- 2:51:00would carry a driver's license suspension of at least three
- 2:51:03years up to your lifetime. Yes, sir.
- 2:51:05You want to understand if a prison term is imposing.
- 2:51:08This case, you might have to serve a period of post-release
- 2:51:12control as part of your sentence for up, to two years under the
- 2:51:15Parole Authority. Yes, sir.
- 2:51:18If you were placed on post-release control and
- 2:51:20violated any conditions of Parole Authority, could return
- 2:51:23to the prison for the nine months.
- 2:51:24For each violation up to one half of my sentence, do you
- 2:51:27understand that? Yes, sir, if the violation Maury
- 2:51:30new felony, then you could get an additional consecutive prison
- 2:51:33sentence for the violation. Do you understand that?
- 2:51:35Yes, if that would have the maximum prison sentence for
- 2:51:39that, finally should be either 12 months or the time left under
- 2:51:43Post Release Control. Whichever is more.
- 2:51:45Do you understand that? Yes, sir.
- 2:51:48Do you understand that? If a prison term is imposed, in
- 2:51:50this case, you would be eligible for judicial release.
- 2:51:54That's our, I could place you on community control for up to five
- 2:51:57years but if you violated any conditions, I could send you to
- 2:52:01prison for 60 months, do you understand that?
- 2:52:03Yes, sir. Has anybody promised you?
- 2:52:05That I would be lenient on you just because you're pleading
- 2:52:08guilty today. No sir.
- 2:52:09Has anybody promised you? What I will send you to in this
- 2:52:12case. No sir.
- 2:52:13You understand. I do not have to follow the
- 2:52:15sentencing recommendation of either the prosecutor or your
- 2:52:18lawyer. Yes, sir.
- 2:52:19Have you had enough time to talk to Mr?
- 2:52:21Mulkey, before pleading guilty today.
- 2:52:23Yes, as he discussed everything about your case and answered all
- 2:52:26of your questions. Yes, sir.
- 2:52:28Are you satisfied with the advice?
- 2:52:30He is giving you yes. Have you been threatened or
- 2:52:33coerced in any way to plead guilty?
- 2:52:35Today? Those are you freely knowingly
- 2:52:37and voluntarily entering your guilty plea.
- 2:52:40Yes sir. Do you have any questions at
- 2:52:42this point in time? No.
- 2:52:43All right, Miss Bell. Mr. Bland into the key at the
- 2:52:49start of this hearing the activity, he engaged in.
- 2:52:51Does that satisfied the state that that those facts is recited
- 2:52:55by Mr? Bland would result in a Guilty
- 2:52:58verdict is shown a trial, I believe.
- 2:53:00So your honor, a state would just added the operation of that
- 2:53:02motor vehicle causes a substantial risk of serious,
- 2:53:05physical harm to persons or property.
- 2:53:07All right. Mr. Bland based on your
- 2:53:11recitation with what Miss Bell added.
- 2:53:15What is your plea to the charge of failed to comply with the
- 2:53:18order or signal of a police officer application?
- 2:53:23Bob, would you find out? Maria had a date of 415 but that
- 2:53:28was, as of early last week. So we'll probably going to have
- 2:53:33to move it back. Yeah, maybe a week or so.
- 2:53:47Signature here, 3126. Simon say, Okay, Mr. Bland is
- 2:54:38this your signature on the written plea of guilty?
- 2:54:40Yes, sir. And did you sign it?
- 2:54:43Voluntarily? Yes.
- 2:54:47And you want me to accept you already please guilty?
- 2:54:50Yes, sir. So we pleaded guilty.
- 2:54:54Mr. Land was present. With Mr. Mulkey, advised valve
- 2:55:00is rights and nobody intelligent voluntary, waiver He understands
- 2:55:04the nature of the charge of consequences of his guilty, plea
- 2:55:06in the maximum penalty trying to be knowing intelligent,
- 2:55:09volunteer, will accept the plea of guilty and find him guilty of
- 2:55:12fair to comply. With the order or signal of a
- 2:55:15police officer, he felony of the third degree.
- 2:55:18And refer this for a presents report.
- 2:55:27He sensing will be. April 15th.
- 2:55:36And I think, 2 p.m. Little, Bob comes back.
- 2:55:45Just yesterday. That that's a new day, right?
- 2:55:47Okay. All right.
- 2:55:48Yeah, for 4:15 or 2:00 and the binders continued.
- 2:55:55Anything else on this belt. Nothing.
- 2:55:57Thank you. Smoking know.
- 2:56:00You're honor. Thank you.
- 2:56:00Okay, we're drinking. Okie dokie, friends.
- 2:56:05Join us tonight, right here on this channel for sidebar, APM
- 2:56:09Eastern, 5 p.m. Pacific.
- 2:56:10We will be talking about streaming.
- 2:56:13Ha live courtrooms here on YouTube.
- 2:56:16Is it fair? Is it right?
- 2:56:17Do people complain too much about it?
- 2:56:20Do they have a point? All those kind of things will be
- 2:56:22discussed. This is kind of off the back of
- 2:56:25Judge, Boyd losing her primary in part actually probably in
- 2:56:30hole because her opponent was screaming.
- 2:56:33Bloody murder about her streaming her court.
- 2:56:36So that'll kind of be the jumping off play for tonight's
- 2:56:39discussion so be sure to join us.
- 2:56:40I think that'll be fun. Also, in the fourth hour, the
- 2:56:45bottom half of the fourth hour. So about 45 minutes from now, we
- 2:56:49will be having a little bit of a discussion on a story.
- 2:56:53I brought you a couple of days ago if you'll recall, we talked
- 2:56:56about a set of kids who tp'd a teacher's home.
- 2:57:03And the teacher came out to pursue them and he found the
- 2:57:07street and got run over by one of the kids fleeing in their
- 2:57:10automobile and was killed while there's been a development.
- 2:57:14So we're gonna talk about that in the bottom of the fourth hour
- 2:57:17because It got interesting. Anyways, not that was an
- 2:57:22interesting before, but even more.
- 2:57:23So now, anyways, let's go back to judge McBurney new
- 2:57:27contestant. it's beautiful. It's not sensitive community.
- 2:57:42All right. Good morning, Mr. Rhodes.
- 2:57:45Somewhere in Mr. Mabank, how you doing?
- 2:57:47Okay, I'm blessed. I woke up this morning and I
- 2:57:50didn't wake up me, too. So we're on the same footing
- 2:57:53there. Mr. Rhodes.
- 2:57:55Mr. Jerome tells me that you are prepared to interpret.
- 2:57:59Please. Not just in one but both your
- 2:58:01cases now, is that correct? Yes, it sounds like we have a
- 2:58:03global resolution as we call it. Okay, that's 24 SC, 006456 and
- 2:58:1025 CE 005983. The two different prosecutors
- 2:58:16involved in the case. And just so, you know, it sounds
- 2:58:19like Miss Smith looks like Miss Smith, because she seated here.
- 2:58:21Will be asking you most of the questions Ms. Reese, who is
- 2:58:25standing to your left, may have questions for you.
- 2:58:28She's handling the case involving the cruelty to
- 2:58:31animals, but it may be, she's simply relaying to me what she
- 2:58:35believed, the facts are in that case.
- 2:58:37Just so you know, the two different players for the state
- 2:58:40because your case, It within that office.
- 2:58:45All right. Miss Smith will put you under
- 2:58:48oath. Once you're under oath please
- 2:58:49answer all the questions. Truthfully if at any point you
- 2:58:52need to speak with Mr. Jerome privately let me know and if any
- 2:58:56point you have questions, let me know.
- 2:58:57Yes, sir. Miss Smith.
- 2:58:59Thank you, judge Mr. Rhodes, please raise your right hand.
- 2:59:03Do you swear or affirm that the testimony?
- 2:59:05You shall give of the matter currently?
- 2:59:07Before this court will be the truth.
- 2:59:08The whole truth and nothing, but yeah.
- 2:59:11Okay, you can lower your hand. Please take your true,
- 2:59:14correcting legal name. Carry on Mario.
- 2:59:16Are you at this time taking or in the influence of any alcohol?
- 2:59:20Drugs or medicine? Oh yeah.
- 2:59:22Is there any medication that you would normally take that you
- 2:59:25haven't been given today? No.
- 2:59:27How old are you and how far have you gone in school?
- 2:59:3022 years old. And he became the 12th grade
- 2:59:36year. Did you do you have your GED or
- 2:59:38you must got into your senior year?
- 2:59:40Yeah, I got it to my senior year.
- 2:59:42Okay? Are you able to read write and
- 2:59:45understand the English language does my?
- 2:59:48Do you understand that? You have the right to the guilty
- 2:59:51or not guilty to these charges? And if you plead not guilty or
- 2:59:54remain silent, you may receive a jury trial.
- 2:59:56Yes, ma'am. Have you had enough time to
- 2:59:58speak with your attorney? About all of the facts and
- 3:00:00circumstances known to you regarding the indictment?
- 3:00:03Yes, ma'am. Do you need more time to discuss
- 3:00:06your case with your attorney know?
- 3:00:07And are you satisfied with these Services management?
- 3:00:11Council. Are you satisfied that your
- 3:00:13client has a full understanding of this proceeding?
- 3:00:15Yes. Also do you waive the formal
- 3:00:18reading of the indictment in any and all the defects in the
- 3:00:21indictment for the purposes of this, please?
- 3:00:22Yes. Mr. Rose, do you remember being
- 3:00:26arrested on these charges? Yes, ma'am.
- 3:00:29The state is unaware of any outstanding.
- 3:00:31Warrants related to these charges.
- 3:00:32Are you or your attorney aware of any outstanding warrants?
- 3:00:35Know. Do you understand that?
- 3:00:39This is a negotiated plea for both cases, which means that the
- 3:00:42state will recommend to the court, a global sentence of 10
- 3:00:45years to serve one with the balance probated.
- 3:00:47Yes. Ma'am.
- 3:00:48Are you aware that? The court does not have to
- 3:00:50accept that recommendation? And that the court can sentence
- 3:00:53you to the maximum on these charge and can run those
- 3:00:55sentences consecutively? Yes.
- 3:00:57Wow You understand that? If you're placed on probation of
- 3:01:02any kind, you cannot violate any criminal laws of any
- 3:01:05governmental unit or any special conditions of probation without
- 3:01:08being subject to replication for the balance of the sentence as
- 3:01:12well. Do you understand that this is a
- 3:01:15guilty plea which is permanently recorded on your criminal
- 3:01:17history. Here's my You also understand
- 3:01:20that if you charged with the crime in the future, that this
- 3:01:22plea may be used to enhance that sentencing.
- 3:01:24Even on the federal case. Yes, ma'am.
- 3:01:28Are you currently on probation? No man.
- 3:01:30Are you a United States citizen? Yes ma'am.
- 3:01:33Do you understand that there may be other adverse or unfavorable
- 3:01:36consequences as a result of this guilty?
- 3:01:38Plea conviction just as there would be following a conviction
- 3:01:41from a trial for example. For example, you're guilty, plea
- 3:01:45may affect your right to vote the rights of Hope, public
- 3:01:47office, the right to serve on a jury, the rights of obtain, a
- 3:01:51passport, or your ability to obtain employment.
- 3:01:54Yes. Ma'am.
- 3:01:56Do you also understands about pleading guilty to a felony?
- 3:01:58You cannot use receive possess transport, or own a firearm and
- 3:02:04that if you did, you could be charged with another felony
- 3:02:06offense. Yes, ma'am.
- 3:02:08Do you understand that you waive any and all defenses?
- 3:02:11Including any mental health defenses by answering this
- 3:02:13guilty? Yes, ma'am.
- 3:02:16Do you understand about pleading, guilty?
- 3:02:18You're giving up the following rights the right to a trial by
- 3:02:21jury. The right to remain silent and
- 3:02:23not incriminate yourself. The right to see and hear the
- 3:02:26witnesses called to testify against you, the right to the
- 3:02:29assistance of counsel either hired by you, or court,
- 3:02:32appointed, you cannot afford an attorney.
- 3:02:34The right to the presumption of innocence, which means that the
- 3:02:37state must prove Beyond a reasonable doubt that you're
- 3:02:39guilty of these charges. The right to testify on your own
- 3:02:42behalf or remain silent. The right to present other
- 3:02:46evidence of your own and call your own Witnesses and the right
- 3:02:49to appeal that convicted of these charges after a trial.
- 3:02:51Yes, ma'am. So are you satisfied that your
- 3:02:54client understands that these are the rights that they'll be
- 3:02:57waving by entering this guilty plea.
- 3:02:58Yes. Mr. Rose Has anyone forced
- 3:03:01threatened or promised? You anything to get you to enter
- 3:03:03into this guilty? Plea know.
- 3:03:06As to indictment 24 s c, zero, zero six, four five, six.
- 3:03:12How do you please account one? Driving fleeing and attempting
- 3:03:16to elude, count to death by receiving stolen property count,
- 3:03:20three willful obstruction of law enforcement officers and count
- 3:03:24four driving without a valid license.
- 3:03:29Good. Regarding indictment, number 25,
- 3:03:32SC 0, 0, 5 9 8 3, how do you please account?
- 3:03:38One. Aggravated assault.
- 3:03:39Count to aggravated cruelty to animals, count three, possession
- 3:03:44of a firearm or knife during the commission.
- 3:03:47Hold on one second. Okay.
- 3:03:55I'm sorry. Yeah that that's just so in the
- 3:04:01indictment ending in nine eight three, the state is dismissing
- 3:04:07count four, Reckless conduct and count five discharge of a
- 3:04:13firearm near a public highway. So the two misdemeanors, the
- 3:04:16state is dismissing. Thank you.
- 3:04:20You're welcome. And I'll just repeat the last
- 3:04:24one that number 25, SC 0, 0. 5, 9 8 3, how do you please
- 3:04:28account? One?
- 3:04:29Aggravated assault. Count to aggravated cruelty to
- 3:04:32animals and count. Three possession of firearm or
- 3:04:35knife during the commission of Orem to commit certain felonies.
- 3:04:39Yes. Is this guilty plea freely,
- 3:04:42involuntarily, giving with full knowledge of the charges against
- 3:04:45you? Yeah.
- 3:04:47Do you understand that you do not have a right to appeal from
- 3:04:49your guilty conviction but if you believe that there has been
- 3:04:52some type of era you can apply to the appropriate Appellate
- 3:04:55Court to request a discretionary appeal.
- 3:04:57Yes ma'am. Do you understand that this has
- 3:05:00to be completed within 30 days from today?
- 3:05:02Yes, ma'am. Do you understand that you have
- 3:05:05only four years from today for felony charge and 12 months from
- 3:05:08today, for misdemeanor charge to file a habeas, corpus petition
- 3:05:11challenging, the voluntary of this plea?
- 3:05:14Yes ma'am. Thank you, Mr. Rose Yonder
- 3:05:17regarding indictment ending in six, four, five, six.
- 3:05:19If this case, worth the proceed to trial, the state would show
- 3:05:22that on February 18th 2023 around 11:30, p.m.
- 3:05:27Corporal. Brian as b, y r, n e.
- 3:05:31Receive the flock hate notification for a stolen white
- 3:05:34Kia. Forte in the area of Washington
- 3:05:36Road in Desert Drive, that is in Atlanta Georgia.
- 3:05:39And also, in Fulton County while the officer was canvassing, this
- 3:05:43area, he didn't notice that white key of forte and initiated
- 3:05:47a stop based on that block hit. When the officers are put on
- 3:05:50their lights to vehicle begins to Fleet and started to drive on
- 3:05:53the wrong side of the roadway and also down Mount Olive Road.
- 3:05:57That road had a dead end. So when the car got up on the
- 3:06:02dead end, the driver who was identified as the defending
- 3:06:05Kyrie Rose, he drove through the gate of the house.
- 3:06:07That was at 3177 Mount Olive Road at that time.
- 3:06:11Mr. Rows and three other occupants of the car got out and
- 3:06:15started. Is a plea on foot Mr. Rose was
- 3:06:18found during this foot race and he was placed under arrest for
- 3:06:23the charges. We have in front of us, the car
- 3:06:27was confirmed that it was stolen through gcic and also that
- 3:06:33blockade that the officers were able to receive and was able to
- 3:06:37and that's the reason why they pulled over the car but those
- 3:06:39are the facts and circumstances regarding the case in Regarding
- 3:06:43the facts in this case. And then, as previously stated
- 3:06:45for the charges we have here, it would be a global offer of 10
- 3:06:49years to serve one. Did you want me to break down
- 3:06:51the sentences for each count? I think I can do that.
- 3:06:56Well, let me make sure The, it's a felony for count one and then
- 3:07:07the other two and count to the stolen car and then two
- 3:07:11misdemeanors. Okay, got it.
- 3:07:14No, like to do now is here from his Reese, about the factual
- 3:07:17basis for the case ending in 983.
- 3:07:23And I need you to be near microphone because Ms. Rivers
- 3:07:26couldn't hear you. So you can either take seat in
- 3:07:31the middle of the prosecution table or that's probably your
- 3:07:34best. Bet.
- 3:07:35Thank you. The judges, in this case, went
- 3:07:40to trial state would expect the evidence to show that on March.
- 3:07:43The 3rd of 2025 East Point. Police Department were called to
- 3:07:471420 Pine Avenue, in Fulton County, regarding a dog being
- 3:07:52shot. When the officer arrived on the
- 3:07:54scene, he talked to Akeisha, Graham, who is the victim of the
- 3:07:57AK assault. She told him that she had been
- 3:08:01inside her house there at 1420 Pine Avenue and she had two dogs
- 3:08:06outside in the yard. She heard a commotion going
- 3:08:09outside on outside. So she went out of the residents
- 3:08:12and observed, one of her dogs outside of the fence.
- 3:08:17Somehow that all gotten out. Evidently had bitten someone.
- 3:08:20So she got that dog and brought it back into the house.
- 3:08:25Shortly after that, she was confronted in the house by
- 3:08:29someone that she recognized from the neighborhood who turned out
- 3:08:32to be the defendant in this case, She didn't know his name,
- 3:08:35but she knew who he was. She stated that he had come on
- 3:08:39to the property armed with a firearm demanding, to see the
- 3:08:43dog that had bit. And the other individual, he was
- 3:08:46declaring that he was there to kill it for attacking his
- 3:08:49girlfriend. He pointed the firearm at her
- 3:08:52and she got scared and ran back in the house and she heard three
- 3:08:56gunshots. When she later went out in the
- 3:08:58yard, there was one of her dogs, not the one that had gotten out
- 3:09:03earlier but a dog that was chained up in the yard at least
- 3:09:0615 feet from the fence laying down on the ground.
- 3:09:08Police. Also observed, the dog dead on
- 3:09:12the ground officers showed two dogs or one dog.
- 3:09:15One dog. Okay, but it was not the dog.
- 3:09:18It was the wrong dog. Not that there's a right dog to
- 3:09:22go and shoot. Once I would change one that bit
- 3:09:25someone So the police showed the victim.
- 3:09:29In this case, a photo of the defendant and she positively
- 3:09:32identified him his being the One that pointed the gun at her
- 3:09:36judge. judges part of the Senate there, is that possession which
- 3:09:40has to be At a consecutive. Okay, but in this case, not the
- 3:09:48other case. So yes.
- 3:09:49Um, I could make the first two counts five to serve one, and
- 3:09:55then the third count five consecutive yes sir, okay,
- 3:09:58understood suspended and the conditions of his probation.
- 3:10:03Special terms. No cannot possess any guns or
- 3:10:07replicas of guns. Cannot own controller possess
- 3:10:11any domesticated animals. He has to be gainfully employed.
- 3:10:17Take parenting classes. Random drug and alcohol screens.
- 3:10:24GED, I believe. He said he had not graduated.
- 3:10:28He is to stay away from the location of 1420 Pine Avenue.
- 3:10:34And have no contact with the victims, Dexter Whitehead.
- 3:10:40And Keisha Graham, at least Dexter on the dog.
- 3:10:48Parenting classes. Yes, sir, judge.
- 3:10:51Because there were a lot of children around when he was
- 3:10:54discharging the gun, okay? Got it.
- 3:11:01Are there people here from Miss Graham's family, who want to be
- 3:11:05heard, someone's raising a hand. For their people here with Mr.
- 3:11:12Rose. Yeah.
- 3:11:13That's Mr. Rose's Family. Okay, well, we'll get to that
- 3:11:15just a moment. Yes.
- 3:11:16Okay, thank you, Ms. Reese, did you have other conditions of
- 3:11:20probation? Okay.
- 3:11:25Benefiting and of course, to complete a defensive, driving
- 3:11:28course, and to maintain gainful and slowly.
- 3:11:34Got it. Okay.
- 3:11:35And there's no restitution that you're aware of Ode to the owner
- 3:11:39of the Kia. Okay.
- 3:11:41All right. Miss Stallworth criminal history
- 3:11:44info on Mr. Rhodes, please. Three Cycles.
- 3:11:49No convictions listed in one FCA in 2025 out of Fulton nothing
- 3:11:54further. Thank you.
- 3:11:58Mr. Jerome Yes, your honor. Um, in terms of the flea, in
- 3:12:03case, there's nothing that we're going to say in regards to that.
- 3:12:05We're just asking that the court on except that please.
- 3:12:08Negotiated. And turns of the dog case you've
- 3:12:12essentially heard the facts. The only additional thing that
- 3:12:14would like to add is that even though the dog was on the leash
- 3:12:17Mr. Robes didn't know it at the time and the dog actually came
- 3:12:20at him. And it was apparently A Very
- 3:12:23Long Leash that his dog was on and this is not the first time.
- 3:12:26The dogs have been loosening the neighborhood and this is not the
- 3:12:29first time that something someone has been by one of their
- 3:12:32dogs and they have several dogs. So it's hard to distinguish them
- 3:12:36individually though. We felt you know and how we
- 3:12:41believe that this is a reasonable complete in this case
- 3:12:44and we just accept that the court, accept the plea is
- 3:12:47negotiated Appreciate the context.
- 3:12:51Is it nonetheless accurate that the dog on a long lead?
- 3:12:56Or a short lead was inside a fenced yard into which Mr?
- 3:13:00Rhodes had entered. So Mr. Rhodes was in the yard.
- 3:13:04He was at the Gate of the yard. He was actually arguing with the
- 3:13:07owner of the dog. And would that be the
- 3:13:09gentleman's name? I heard, or are you agree with
- 3:13:12Miss Graham? Know, that's the gentleman
- 3:13:14that's her father. So okay.
- 3:13:17I'm my understanding is that Ms. Graham wasn't he never even saw
- 3:13:21him his Grand, so, but he was arguing with the gentleman that
- 3:13:25was there. And in the dog was basically
- 3:13:28running up behind him and because, you know, they normally
- 3:13:31have their dogs out on us without a leash.
- 3:13:33He was under the impression. Again, that this doll also did
- 3:13:36not have a leash on him though, he was in the yard.
- 3:13:39The dog was only about five or 10 feet away from that.
- 3:13:43So it wasn't as if he, you know, he shot across several homes or
- 3:13:47whatever the case may be, but um, and Mr. Role was not in the
- 3:13:51yard. He was actually standing at the
- 3:13:53gate He was standing at the gate speaking to the owner, but if he
- 3:13:58had a fence between him and the dog, I guess, I'm trying to
- 3:14:01understand the need to shoot the dog.
- 3:14:05The gate was open. Okay?
- 3:14:07Yeah, it was open. Okay, got it, Mr. Rhodes,
- 3:14:12anything you want to add? That way, he just said, I never
- 3:14:21had verbal or visible confrontation with Miss Keisha
- 3:14:26Graham. I only verbally spoke to her
- 3:14:28father and Mr. Whitehead, is that, am I remember in the name,
- 3:14:31okay? And were you a neighbor?
- 3:14:34Did you live nearby? I stay.
- 3:14:35I stayed down the street on the other side of the neighborhood.
- 3:14:38Okay. We all just used to play
- 3:14:40basketball right there next to her driveway, he used to have a
- 3:14:43basketball goal there, okay? Um, when you get out, will you
- 3:14:48be living close to that household?
- 3:14:50Do you have a different place to say?
- 3:14:51Yeah, I moved to Union City good.
- 3:14:54That's gonna make a lot of his simpler, but I was there more
- 3:14:58you wanted to say. I don't mean to cut you off
- 3:15:00other than your helping me. Understand that you were having
- 3:15:02an exchange with Mr. Whitehead. Not with Ms. Graham, yeah.
- 3:15:06Okay. When the dust situation
- 3:15:09happened, It wasn't, yeah, it wasn't how she was saying, I
- 3:15:15never even got to speak to her until she came out passing along
- 3:15:20the Thirteen. What, so, whatever, when I had
- 3:15:22grabbed my baby mama, we was walking up the street to go to
- 3:15:26the hospital. That's okay.
- 3:15:27So when you say baby mama, I might say go friend.
- 3:15:30This is the, this is the person who got bit.
- 3:15:32Yes, and she had to go to the hospital as a result.
- 3:15:35She got the dog doing through her breasts and bit.
- 3:15:41Do a bone house finger. Okay, and you're saying that's
- 3:15:46not the first time. People in your neighborhood, it
- 3:15:50had unwelcoming counters with one or both of those dogs.
- 3:15:54No sir because he had the dogs for the purpose of being
- 3:16:00Protectors of being a progressive.
- 3:16:02And he don't have a fence to where he can close it, he just
- 3:16:06pull it up. His dogs, run free through yards
- 3:16:09so they can burst out whenever. So we ride past on a scooter or
- 3:16:13you walk as an adults are outside, they can burst out
- 3:16:16whenever they want to. Okay.
- 3:16:18Um, and how many times did you shoot the dog?
- 3:16:23That I can't I don't recall okay but you're not saying you didn't
- 3:16:26shoot the dog, you're just helping me understand a little
- 3:16:29bit more. Why you might have thought that
- 3:16:31was necessary. Yes sir.
- 3:16:32Okay as you think back on it now what could you do differently?
- 3:16:37If you found yourself with your girlfriend in that situation,
- 3:16:41oh, call law enforcement. That's an approach that let them
- 3:16:46deal with it because let's say, what if the officer shoots the
- 3:16:49dog? No one's going to jail.
- 3:16:51Someone gets sued, but Mr. Rose does doesn't spend 190 days in
- 3:16:57jail as a result of that you have a right to be safe and you
- 3:17:01have a right to protect your girlfriend, but you got to be
- 3:17:05careful about how that plays out.
- 3:17:07And it sounds like this is one that the way it broke, it didn't
- 3:17:12go real. Well for you obviously didn't go
- 3:17:13well for the dog. Okay, well I appreciate you
- 3:17:17articulating that that was a thoughtful way of presenting it
- 3:17:19and you're not you giving contacts you're not bringing the
- 3:17:22whole world. You did some things and the dog
- 3:17:24did something. Okay.
- 3:17:27It sounds like the knucklehead thing that was going on back in
- 3:17:312023. That's just you.
- 3:17:32You can't blame a dog for that one.
- 3:17:34No sir. Okay.
- 3:17:35All right, how many kids do you have?
- 3:17:37Oh, one right now. One right now.
- 3:17:41Like, if I were to ask you in three months, how many kids
- 3:17:44would you have? I say, probably Oh my mom's
- 3:17:48looking back my mama in here. I ain't gonna say that, okay.
- 3:17:53Okay. Got it.
- 3:17:54All right. Well Mr. Rhodes, I find there's
- 3:17:59a factual basis for both your cases.
- 3:18:01I understand better. Now that I've heard more about
- 3:18:05the second case while Mr. Jerome was needing to work harder on
- 3:18:10your behalf to resolve the the case where you discharged the
- 3:18:14firearm, which is always a risky thing.
- 3:18:16It's tragic that the dog was hit and killed the maybe larger
- 3:18:24concern that a lot of people have is that you're shooting and
- 3:18:27things are going this way and that way and maybe Mr. Whitehead
- 3:18:30gets hit accidentally, you know mean to do it but he's saying
- 3:18:32don't what are you doing? And then you hit him in the leg
- 3:18:35and he bleeds out and then we're not talking about a cruelty to
- 3:18:38animals charged. We're talking about 30 years for
- 3:18:40you or life for you. It's just The reason to be super
- 3:18:46careful when you put your finger on a trigger because once that
- 3:18:50bullet comes out, you don't control what happens and it goes
- 3:18:53through Mr. Right? And instead of that, dog, and
- 3:18:55Mr. Jerome is very good at what he does.
- 3:18:58He's not that good we wouldn't be talking about a year or GED.
- 3:19:02It would be how many kids you have.
- 3:19:05They're gonna watch, you grow up down and Reidsville, or
- 3:19:09something like that, right? And I say that, not this sound,
- 3:19:12like, I don't get it. Just so you understand the
- 3:19:14stakes that are involved when you pull that thing out.
- 3:19:16And now that you're going to have this sentence, they'll be
- 3:19:20the double whammy. If you'll be a felon and you get
- 3:19:22caught with a gun just in your car, your hand, I need to be
- 3:19:25anywhere near it. That's gonna be more jail time.
- 3:19:27So, really your gun days are done.
- 3:19:29Have a baseball bat or something if a dog's coming at you, but no
- 3:19:33more guns. Okay?
- 3:19:35I find a factual basis for both, you please, I find that you're
- 3:19:38pleased are knowing and voluntary.
- 3:19:40Meaning you've understood what we've been talking about?
- 3:19:42And no one is forcing you to enter your police.
- 3:19:45Do you agree with that? Yes, Mr. Jerome, can we sign
- 3:19:48your name? Someone in my office, sign your
- 3:19:50name to both indictments? Yes question!
- 3:19:53Yes! So another issue is that he's
- 3:19:56actually in school he's not working.
- 3:19:57So we want to see if you could. It could be work or school.
- 3:20:01Get to that. All right.
- 3:20:03Yeah well we get to the conditions But we can sign your
- 3:20:08name to both indictments. Yes you can and Miss Smith.
- 3:20:10Can we sign your name to the indictment ending in four, five,
- 3:20:15six and Ms? Reese.
- 3:20:17Can we sign your name to the indictment ending in 983.
- 3:20:20Okay, and Mr. Rhodes. Can we sign your name to both
- 3:20:23indictments? Yes, sir.
- 3:20:25All right, in the driving a car, fast and crashing and running
- 3:20:30and all that case. Ending in four five, six.
- 3:20:33I'm setting you on count one to five years to serve one year
- 3:20:38with a balance on probation, count two is five years to
- 3:20:43serve, not five years to serve five years probated running
- 3:20:46consecutive to count one and counts, three and four are
- 3:20:51misdemeanors. And those will both be 12 months
- 3:20:53to serve, and they'll run concurrently with count one.
- 3:20:56So, that's 10 to serve one balance probated, you'll get
- 3:20:59credit for the time, you've been in, which by my math is 191
- 3:21:03days. So, over half of the sentence
- 3:21:04already special, Conditions of your probation.
- 3:21:08In that case, one will be get your GED.
- 3:21:10That sounds like you're already trending in that direction.
- 3:21:13And then two, you'll need to compete.
- 3:21:15A complete, a defensive driving course.
- 3:21:18I said in the other case, ending in nine eight three before I
- 3:21:25sent you. I forgot to ask Ms. Reese.
- 3:21:27Was there any information that you had from either?
- 3:21:32Ms? Gram or Mr?
- 3:21:35Whitehead that they wanted me to hear.
- 3:21:37Okay. Thank you.
- 3:21:39You're sentencing. The second case is five years to
- 3:21:45serve one year as to count one and two.
- 3:21:48Those will run concurrently with each other and then the third
- 3:21:51count has to run consecutively and it has to be five years, but
- 3:21:56I'll probate that. So that's a total of 10 years to
- 3:21:59serve one year. Balance probated that sentence
- 3:22:02will run. Concurrently with your sentence
- 3:22:04in the other case, special conditions In the case, ending
- 3:22:07in 983, get your GED. You can have no pets in your
- 3:22:12household. So if you're living with other
- 3:22:14people and they had pets, those pets need to not be in the
- 3:22:17household. Um this is why you're on
- 3:22:19probation, it's not forever but while you're on probation you
- 3:22:23need to submit that. What was the drug and alcohol
- 3:22:27screen situation? was there a reason for that, you
- 3:22:32just seem to be reading the laundry list of stuff and okay.
- 3:22:39All right, I'm not gonna include that formations free to do that.
- 3:22:42If probation is interacting with you, like these guys acting a
- 3:22:45little funny or he smells like weed.
- 3:22:46They can get you to take a drug test.
- 3:22:49They have that ability throughout probation.
- 3:22:50You will need to stay away from both Ms. Graham and Mr.
- 3:22:55Whitehead, so if you see them somewhere else, I know you live
- 3:22:58somewhere else. Now, you gotta walk away and you
- 3:23:00need to stay away from 1420, Pine Avenue.
- 3:23:03So if you have family that still lives there, they need to come.
- 3:23:06See you. You can't go back to that street
- 3:23:09and that neighborhood. And as for the work and school,
- 3:23:12you need to be either enrolled as a full-time student or
- 3:23:16working at least 20 hours a week while you're on probation.
- 3:23:20Okay. I think I covered everything
- 3:23:23anything else Miss Smith from the state MS, MR. Jerome, I
- 3:23:29think I addressed your concern about what if he is in school
- 3:23:31full-time house, he gonna be working full time.
- 3:23:33He doesn't need to your work as much as you want, but if you're
- 3:23:37not working, you better be a full-time student.
- 3:23:39All right? Any questions about any of that.
- 3:23:42Mr. Rose. Mmm.
- 3:23:47All the question asked. Well, oh, you are.
- 3:23:50Can he serve the remaining the remainder of his time?
- 3:23:54Because he's already been up in, for over seven months.
- 3:23:57He wants to serve the remainder at the county jail.
- 3:23:59He doesn't want to be sent to State facilities.
- 3:24:01So fair question, I don't control that.
- 3:24:04My experience is that typically, when there's less than six
- 3:24:07months left on a sentence, you stay put.
- 3:24:10But as you know because you're living it, the jail is very
- 3:24:13full. And so the sheriff's team is
- 3:24:15also looking at who's been sentenced and can we send them
- 3:24:18somewhere? There's not a whole lot of
- 3:24:19points sending you to Jackson if you're going to just be there
- 3:24:22for these are all political offenses and so I send you to
- 3:24:25Jackson for five weeks or whatever it might be.
- 3:24:28I'm not promising you any exit date.
- 3:24:30Other than it won't be more than a total of a year including all
- 3:24:34the time you served. So my guess is you'll stay put
- 3:24:38but I don't control that yes sir.
- 3:24:40All right, thank you Mr. Jerome, that is it for those two cases.
- 3:24:48Okie dokie friends. Fulfilling this Channel's,
- 3:24:51promise of 9 to 11% more judge, boys.
- 3:24:54Let's go there. All right.
- 3:24:56Court is calling 2026 cr0. 01908 State versus Salvador Gonzalez.
- 3:25:03Can I have parties announced? Great Lopez for the defense and
- 3:25:08are you Mr? Gonzalez Council.
- 3:25:10Have you received all discovery that your view with your client?
- 3:25:13Yes, sir. What will find the state is in
- 3:25:15compliance with discovering, Mr. Gonzalez, did you review the
- 3:25:18true bill of indictment with your attorney that you
- 3:25:20understand it? Council.
- 3:25:23Do you waive the reading? Yes, sir.
- 3:25:25State, are you perceiving on the indictment as presented?
- 3:25:29Mr. Gonzalez, did you review the court at monuments with your
- 3:25:32attorney that you understand it inside it and all the
- 3:25:34appropriate places? You're charges possession of a
- 3:25:38controlled substance ability group, one less than one gram,
- 3:25:41that's a state jail. Felony Ranger is anywhere from
- 3:25:44180 days up to two years in the state jail, facility, and up to
- 3:25:4810,000 dollar fine. If you have plead with the state
- 3:25:51court, does not have to follow your plate.
- 3:25:53If the court does not follow your plea, and gives you more
- 3:25:56than you bargained for the fact that you ended up Lee will not
- 3:25:58be used to get you and you will be allowed to withdraw your
- 3:26:01plea. Did you understand?
- 3:26:04You have a right to jury trial a right for you or your attorney
- 3:26:06across examining and confront any Witnesses.
- 3:26:09The state recall in the right to remain silent by entering this.
- 3:26:12Plea, you're giving up those rights to tend to give up those
- 3:26:15rights and enter into the. In this case, You need to speak
- 3:26:20up Council, has your client been able to provide you with any
- 3:26:23defenses. Yeah.
- 3:26:25John, do you believe he has a rational, as well as a factual,
- 3:26:27understanding of the charges against him?
- 3:26:29Yes, sure. Do you believe he's currently
- 3:26:31confident? It was legally saying, at the
- 3:26:33time of the offense, I do. Mr. Gonzalez has anyone
- 3:26:37threatened you post your place, you in fear to get you to enter
- 3:26:40The Plea know? Anyone promise you anything,
- 3:26:42other than the plain? Are you satisfied with the way
- 3:26:46you've been represented? If you're not a US citizen by
- 3:26:49entering this plea, you will be deported denied naturalization
- 3:26:52and reentry. Did you understand?
- 3:26:54Yes. But we'll find that definitive
- 3:26:57has no name. Voluntarily waive, his right to
- 3:26:59jury, trial is your view, the plea bargain page with your
- 3:27:02attorney that, you understand it.
- 3:27:03According to the police punishment is to be assessed at
- 3:27:0738 days in the Bexar County Jail on a 1244.
- 3:27:09There's an 800 dollar fine and no applications.
- 3:27:12Did you understand that to be the police Defence?
- 3:27:15It is wrong State. It's your review.
- 3:27:17The waiver of a pale paragraph with your attorney.
- 3:27:20Did you understand it and sign it in both places.
- 3:27:22By signing that you're waiving your right to appeal, the only
- 3:27:25items that can be appealed are in pre-trial motions that have
- 3:27:28been found heard and ruled upon by the court.
- 3:27:31Did you understand? Council of any such motions
- 3:27:34noon, then, to the offense, how do you plead guilty, not guilty
- 3:27:37or no contest. State in the evidence.
- 3:27:43No objections are. All right, stay tuned, maybe
- 3:27:45excuse. Did you review the waiver?
- 3:27:48And stipulations with your attorney.
- 3:27:50Did you understand it? Did you sign it and all the
- 3:27:53appropriate places? Again, did you understand?
- 3:27:56You have a right to jury trial a right for you.
- 3:28:00Or your attorney to cross examine and confront any
- 3:28:02Witnesses, the state would call in the right to remain site.
- 3:28:06Did you understand that today? The state will be presenting
- 3:28:08evidence and the form of witnesses statements and police
- 3:28:11reports. But most importantly they'll be
- 3:28:13no live. Testimony, did you understand or
- 3:28:16find that defendant has known the involuntary waived and
- 3:28:19consented to stipulation of testimony and stipulations?
- 3:28:23Court will accepting to evidence State's exhibits one and
- 3:28:25attachments and review the same. All right, after viewing States,
- 3:29:00exhibits one. In touch with court, will find
- 3:29:02their sufficient evidence to find you.
- 3:29:04Guilty in the court, will find you guilty, very proceed with
- 3:29:06sentencing. Yes, sir.
- 3:29:07Anything you wish to sample after your client who was just
- 3:29:10asked the court to follow the people, bargain agreement,
- 3:29:12right? Who is Miss Dennis to you?
- 3:29:15Dennis. Personally.
- 3:29:31Okay. All right, this quarter is going
- 3:29:38to do, the court will find you guilty sentence you to 38 days
- 3:29:41in the Bexar County on the in the Bexar County Jail on a 1244,
- 3:29:44give you credit for any time sir, there's an 800 dollar fine
- 3:29:48time and money for current and there's to be no contact with
- 3:29:51Dorothy Dennis. Did you review the document
- 3:29:53entitled trial court certification of defendants
- 3:29:56rights to peel with your turning?
- 3:29:57Did you understand it and sign it?
- 3:30:00Because this plea bargain agreement because I followed
- 3:30:03your flea, bargain agreement and because you waive your right to
- 3:30:05peel, you do not have the Court's permission to appeal
- 3:30:08because this is a felony conviction.
- 3:30:09You're not allowed to own or possess any weapons or
- 3:30:12ammunition. If you have a question over what
- 3:30:14that is, you need to speak to an attorney.
- 3:30:16Do you understand? All right, we can go out the
- 3:30:18record. You're going to have to start
- 3:30:19making better choices. If you have a drug issue.
- 3:30:22There are plenty of places that can help you.
- 3:30:24When you're released from their Bexar County jail, if you can't
- 3:30:26find a place, come back here and I'll help you.
- 3:30:28All right, good luck to you. Thank you awesome. hopefully,
- 3:30:34she's still there to help him, depending on when he gets out
- 3:30:37and who Back to judge mom. I mean your own.
- 3:30:54Yes, 758 on behalf of installing McDonald's.
- 3:30:59Please put your name on the record and Chelsea.
- 3:31:00Donald good morning. Great.
- 3:31:02And so, today's date scheduled for the probation violation,
- 3:31:06your client is on probation for operating while visibly
- 3:31:08impaired. Your client was sentenced on
- 3:31:11January 13th of 2026, and it's a large on February 9th that she
- 3:31:15tested positive for alcohol Council, right?
- 3:31:17That's just a matter with. No, I explained to her right to
- 3:31:22a hearing. This particular explain to her
- 3:31:26what the recommendation of funding.
- 3:31:28This court was with that said, you know, she was a complete
- 3:31:31guilty to the violation of probation understanding by
- 3:31:34entering into this place. She leading certainly
- 3:31:37constitutional rights. Is that correct?
- 3:31:39Yes. Okay, so ma'am, I'm going to
- 3:31:42have you, please raise your right hand.
- 3:31:43He saw me swear from the testimony about giving this man
- 3:31:46and be the truth. The whole truth and nothing, but
- 3:31:48the truth. I'm sorry.
- 3:31:49Yes. All right, thank you, please.
- 3:31:51Keep your hands out of your pockets and you heard the police
- 3:31:53on the record. Correct?
- 3:31:55Yeah, I'm sorry. Yes.
- 3:31:57Okay, I need you to adjust the microphone because we have to
- 3:31:59pick up on everything you're saying for our recording.
- 3:32:01Okay. And as to the allegation man
- 3:32:06that you test the positive for alcohol on February 9th, how do
- 3:32:10you plead guilty? You've gone over your advice of
- 3:32:13rights with your attorney, correct?
- 3:32:13Yes. And you understand all of those
- 3:32:15rights? It's you understand that for
- 3:32:17probation violation purposes, that you'll be waiting some of
- 3:32:20those rights. Yes, Has anybody promised you
- 3:32:22anything threatens you or coercion anyway for you to enter
- 3:32:25into a plea? And you understand the possible
- 3:32:28penalty as a result of the plate?
- 3:32:30Yes. And the recommendation this
- 3:32:32matters for you to continue and complete all children's and
- 3:32:34probation pay at 50 dollar. Probation violation fee and 30
- 3:32:38days on the Alcohol tether and then increased testing that
- 3:32:41that's the recommendation. Yes.
- 3:32:43Knowing all that. Do you want to continue with
- 3:32:44your plea? Yes.
- 3:32:46Has anybody promised you? Anything threatened, you or of
- 3:32:49course you in any way? If you don't enter into a plate.
- 3:32:51No and immigration issues. No.
- 3:32:54Absolutely. Please Barney your client.
- 3:32:55Thank you, Mr. You were close to probation to this course, so I
- 3:32:59correct? Yes.
- 3:33:00And one of the terms and conditions of probation was to
- 3:33:03test. For oh, and or drugs when
- 3:33:07required to Second Works. Yes and on February 9th of 2026?
- 3:33:13Did you take a protest if and if it's possibly.
- 3:33:18Yeah. And was that?
- 3:33:19Yes. Yes.
- 3:33:21And you tested positive alcohol. Is that correct?
- 3:33:23Yes. And this was in violation.
- 3:33:25Oh, you are In terms of condition to probation
- 3:33:29stackable. Yes.
- 3:33:30And satisfyer. Of course, also satisfied, the
- 3:33:33play is knowing volunteering. In fact, the accurate, the court
- 3:33:36will accept your plea to the probation violation indicates
- 3:33:39that is a violation, number one, and Council, you're as the
- 3:33:45recommendation or we have discussed this matter, this was
- 3:33:49elapsed by this Donald. She's Contrite.
- 3:33:54She understands this was not the way to start her.
- 3:33:57Probationary period. Of course, I know that she has
- 3:34:03Other areas done, great jobs. But then we see a lot of people.
- 3:34:08In other words, she ate across the finest, up, to amount.
- 3:34:13She has been taking the class, as she's also schedule for the
- 3:34:20Education. That's education class.
- 3:34:23It's a big. They will start.
- 3:34:26She is remorseful of her as to the recommendations adopted,
- 3:34:32however, rather than a alcohol, Heather.
- 3:34:40An electric cord is willing to accept that she will test and
- 3:34:45cleanly be Explorer and alcohol. I mean for a solar link.
- 3:34:49Bye why should I offer your client a silver link as opposed
- 3:34:54to the alcohol tether, you're going to be because Miss Donald
- 3:34:57works for the US Postal Service. She is a Litter and she's
- 3:35:05fearful that this may have some adverse effect from our
- 3:35:08employment with the okay. And so man, that's all in your
- 3:35:11control. Yeah.
- 3:35:12Did you not violated probation? This wouldn't even be an issue.
- 3:35:17Syd what so what what happened for why'd you consume alcohol?
- 3:35:21Thank you. And a weak moment and just very
- 3:35:25impressed. Okay, are you training with the
- 3:35:31doctor's are you treating with the doctor for your depression
- 3:35:34and I mean it up appointment? Thank you recently.
- 3:35:40Right, so that's Tuesday. All right.
- 3:35:53Anything else you want to record to know?
- 3:35:55here's the tissue underneath the only on there, if you like All
- 3:36:06right, the Court's going to do is sobering man just so you're
- 3:36:09aware and testing 600 today. So you will be interrupts, your
- 3:36:12sleepover interrupted so that you can do your testing.
- 3:36:18And then you'll also to increase your random testing as well.
- 3:36:28So you're going to then the courts.
- 3:36:29We're going to continue your probation, agriculture terms of
- 3:36:33Probation, and then you are to Stop it, probation and you'll
- 3:36:39get off your information about obtaining soberly and color.
- 3:36:44Okay, thank you, ma'am. Thank you.
- 3:36:50All right, and let's before we get to the store, I want to
- 3:36:54cover. Let's go back to judge Oakley
- 3:36:56one more time. Good morning.
- 3:37:00Today's date. Time.
- 3:37:02September 24th. Can see a chance to try this
- 3:37:07location. Yes.
- 3:37:10Tell me all about it. It had dreaming. this small
- 3:37:16visibly, Eric and failure to the understanding all the four
- 3:37:22bringing charges with this news. That young man.
- 3:37:26Have anybody with him today? He got your phone number.
- 3:37:36Catch him. Make sure he talks to miss about
- 3:37:38it before he gets out of here. Where is it?
- 3:37:42He's waiting for his notice right now, if you've got
- 3:37:48anything that I should know before, I send you to jail, you
- 3:37:50talk to him about it. I just threw a Lifeline,
- 3:37:54brother. You're welcome.
- 3:37:57Go ahead. Cancel.
- 3:38:00Go ahead Miss Baker. You.
- 3:38:07Did we get to the plea? Yeah, it's very important,
- 3:38:15actually. Okay.
- 3:38:16Original chargers would be more dear.
- 3:38:18Well, I'm a you understand your rights.
- 3:38:22There's Dan the options. They give you.
- 3:38:25You understand a possible penalties, you're pleading
- 3:38:27guilty guilty or no contest, no contact.
- 3:38:29You understand? When you say no conscious,
- 3:38:31you're saying judge, I'm not fighting those Chargers.
- 3:38:33You're doing all that freely involuntarily.
- 3:38:35Do you have litigation? Do you have on it?
- 3:38:39Do you have an incident report? Because the board here is not
- 3:38:42going to work with no contest. I think, Mr. I think the
- 3:38:48prosecutor has he done? His phone doesn't do me any
- 3:38:51good. I got to have the facts.
- 3:38:54I can pass on the file. Yes.
- 3:38:57Okay. All right, Miss Baker.
- 3:39:01Have a seat. Okie dokie friends.
- 3:39:15Let's transition. So I believe it was on Monday.
- 3:39:19we talked about, A case out of Gainesville, Georgia. and if
- 3:39:27you'll recall, it was incredibly tragic.
- 3:39:33So what happened was some kids? We're playing a prank on one of
- 3:39:39their teachers I believe it was four of them if I recall
- 3:39:42correctly. Maybe it was five, they were all
- 3:39:4518. They showed up at the teachers
- 3:39:48house to TP it. The teacher.
- 3:39:55Saw them. And made a move to intercept
- 3:40:00them and in his doing that and running after them, he tripped
- 3:40:05and fell into the street. And as the teens were fleeing in
- 3:40:09their vehicles, one of them was in a truck and he ran the
- 3:40:12teacher over and the teacher was killed.
- 3:40:17We have new information, there's a new story on this and I want
- 3:40:22to go through it with you. Hey specific attention to the
- 3:40:26details at the end of the story. All right, let's pull it up
- 3:40:30here. Just to suck on.
- 3:40:35Let me pull this back up. All right, so teen charged in
- 3:40:42senior prank gone wrong makes vow after teachers death.
- 3:40:46A 2 year old Georgia, high school student charged in a
- 3:40:49teacher's death is expressing his deepest sorrow after an
- 3:40:52annual prank turned tragic. Five, it was five.
- 3:40:57Okay, five, North Hall High. Students were arrested after
- 3:41:01they arrived in a math. Teacher, Jason Hughes home
- 3:41:03carrying toilet paper with plans to carry out the annual plank
- 3:41:06plank prank tradition. In which he was the target as
- 3:41:11the group went to leave Hughes Gainesville home.
- 3:41:14And she's a Vehicles teacher fell on the roadway.
- 3:41:17We know these these details. While this issued a separate
- 3:41:21statement vowing to live out the rest of his life in a way that
- 3:41:26would honor his. I pledged to live out their
- 3:41:28minor in my life in a manner that honors the memory of Coach
- 3:41:30he's exempt by exemplifying Christ.
- 3:41:34We will never be forgotten or he will never be forgotten.
- 3:41:39Wallace's family issued, a statement expressing their
- 3:41:41sadness regarding the incident. We are a family in deep remorse
- 3:41:46and grieving over such tremendous loss in our North
- 3:41:49Hall Community walls. His family said in a statement
- 3:41:52Jason Hughes month, the world to our son.
- 3:41:54Jaden, he took the time to invest in Port is love into him
- 3:41:59making lasting impact, along with the rest of the family.
- 3:42:01Jay expresses, his deepest sorrow and serious topology to
- 3:42:05the Hughes family. Immediately following the
- 3:42:08Collision authorities said the students tried to render Aid as
- 3:42:11they waited a way to First Responders.
- 3:42:13He's later, died from his injuries.
- 3:42:16Wallace was subsequently taken into custody and charged with
- 3:42:19felony first-degree vehicular homicide and reckless driving
- 3:42:24along with misdemeanor charges for Criminal Trespass, and
- 3:42:27littering on private property. The other 18 year olds
- 3:42:32identified as these people whose names that don't really need to
- 3:42:35read were also arrested at the scene, in charged with
- 3:42:37misdemeanor, criminal trespassing on private property
- 3:42:40file. All five of sun's been released
- 3:42:42on bond, In a statement to the New York Times, Hughes wife,
- 3:42:47Laura said to the father of two was, this is where I want you to
- 3:42:51pay attention. Okay.
- 3:42:54He's wife Laura said, the father of two was excited and waiting
- 3:42:58to catch them in the act. When the group arrived at his
- 3:43:01home. This is a terrible tragedy in
- 3:43:04our families, determined to prevent a separate tragedy from
- 3:43:07occurring ruining the lives of these students.
- 3:43:10This would be counter to Jason's lifelong.
- 3:43:13Dedication of investing in the lives of these children.
- 3:43:16The married couple both work as teachers at the public school
- 3:43:20and the popular prank had turned into an ongoing battle in which
- 3:43:25students lost points. If the teacher caught them in
- 3:43:28the act, A statement of Fox 5, the schools that our hearts are
- 3:43:35broken. Jason Hughes was a loving
- 3:43:37husband, of a father passed, a teacher mentor and Coach loved
- 3:43:40and respected. I he gave so much to many of us
- 3:43:44in numerous ways, our hearts go out.
- 3:43:47On and on. But pay attention to that.
- 3:43:52A popular prank had turned into an ongoing battle in which the
- 3:43:56students lost points. If the teacher caught them in
- 3:43:59the act, and, Laura Hughes his wife saying, That he was excited
- 3:44:09and waiting to catch them in the act.
- 3:44:19That completely changes the tenor of this whole thing for
- 3:44:22me. So, I do so much content at this
- 3:44:27point. I don't remember which show we
- 3:44:29talked about the song. I don't remember if it was
- 3:44:31sidebar in the blind or what. But on one of these we touched
- 3:44:35on the idea of the quality of people that we turn our children
- 3:44:45over to And I'm not trying to. Put a stain on this man's name.
- 3:44:54but I raised the point that we turn our children over to
- 3:45:01teachers to raise them. Practically.
- 3:45:06But we don't pay a whole lot of attention to what it is exactly
- 3:45:12that these teachers are doing with these students, we don't
- 3:45:16pay attention to the character of these teachers.
- 3:45:19We're not giving a whole lot of emphasis and thought into what
- 3:45:25goes on on a day-to-day basis, how are they really leading our
- 3:45:30children? And my biggest issue here with
- 3:45:33this Revelation, is that this was encouraged to behavior.
- 3:45:40It was a friendly Behavior. There is not, there's not a
- 3:45:44boundary there between student and teacher.
- 3:45:48There should have been a clear boundary there.
- 3:45:50This never ever should have happened.
- 3:45:52No teacher should have ever been encouraging this and in fact the
- 3:45:56school Issued a statement a day or two prior to this saying that
- 3:46:01we have to be careful about pranks getting out of control.
- 3:46:04So the school knew that the stuff was going on the teacher
- 3:46:09was excited to be a part of it. And now the teacher is dead.
- 3:46:16Now. You can look at that and say,
- 3:46:18hey Dan, it's just T-Pain. It's a tragic thing.
- 3:46:21I get that but every time you go and take a step into something
- 3:46:26that is not, right? You are one step closer to
- 3:46:29something that is very wrong, and we see that play out in
- 3:46:33these courts all the time. People make one or two dumb
- 3:46:37choices and the next thing you know they're popped for
- 3:46:40something major. Like a super drunk because they
- 3:46:43had a bad day and made the choice to go to the bar and have
- 3:46:46one or two drinks that turned into five or six.
- 3:46:49Every time you walk towards something that isn't right,
- 3:46:52you're one step closer to something that is very wrong.
- 3:46:56and it baffles me and it bothers me that The teacher.
- 3:47:04At least this one was in on it and excited about it because I
- 3:47:08don't believe that that creates an overly.
- 3:47:10Great example. for the Utes Michael Daniel we did talk about
- 3:47:18this a little bit on in the blind yesterday and after the
- 3:47:21show. And you've talked about you
- 3:47:24know. The the fact is the school
- 3:47:28ostensibly sanctioned this Behavior.
- 3:47:32I mean if this was if this was well known across the school,
- 3:47:36this was something that other teachers were engaged in
- 3:47:39obviously the administration either had to know this was
- 3:47:42going on. Or should have known this was
- 3:47:45going on if this was such a thing where you know, there was
- 3:47:48like a point system and you know, this was this was
- 3:47:54obviously something that had been going on for a while.
- 3:47:57You know, it's kind of like when we hear about hazing and those
- 3:48:00kinds of things that are happening and then everybody
- 3:48:01runs and hides and and claims that they knew nothing about it.
- 3:48:05But then the more they you investigate the more we find out
- 3:48:08that every buddy knew about it and was in on it and it was
- 3:48:11like, hey just to write a passage and then the people that
- 3:48:14were part of it at one point say, oh come on man.
- 3:48:17It's not that big a deal. Yeah, it's not that big a deal
- 3:48:21until somebody dies or gets seriously injured.
- 3:48:25And now everyone has to play cya.
- 3:48:29And that's where we're we're in the cya phase of this.
- 3:48:33Now, but I guarantee you, there's going to be litigation,
- 3:48:39there's going to be investigations and I I said it,
- 3:48:45I don't know if I said it on the air or off the air, or both or
- 3:48:47whatever, I lose track to. but I think anybody that had knowledge
- 3:48:52of this and and was involved in this kind of behavior, Ada lose
- 3:48:56their jobs, Yeah, I think you can make that argument Michael.
- 3:49:01It's um It's I I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around
- 3:49:07and again, I know there are people and I've seen the chat
- 3:49:10Tim tradition, we did in the 67, I get all of that.
- 3:49:13However, this is another example, and I don't know, a
- 3:49:18better way to say it than how I just set it a few minutes ago.
- 3:49:20If you take one step towards something that is not right.
- 3:49:25You're one step closer to something that is very wrong and
- 3:49:28I don't think that's the lesson that we're teaching.
- 3:49:31Yeah, and let me just say this, there's a big difference between
- 3:49:34students, TP a teacher's house, okay?
- 3:49:38And students doing that independently and haha, we're
- 3:49:42teepee or egging a house, you know.
- 3:49:44That's I mean, it's not great. It is vandalism and stuff.
- 3:49:48But okay, whatever. But then teachers going, Hey,
- 3:49:54I'm gonna lie and wait because tonight is the night.
- 3:49:57I know they're coming because this is a thing, you know, it's
- 3:49:59our game that we have where we have like a point system and if
- 3:50:03I catch them in the ACT, we all I they lose points and we all
- 3:50:07have a good chuckle about it. The next morning and, you know,
- 3:50:10that's there's a huge difference between the two You know, I I
- 3:50:16get it, I get teenagers are going to do teenage things.
- 3:50:19This isn't so much about the teenagers.
- 3:50:22I mean, yeah, they there's obviously gonna be an
- 3:50:25investigation to their role in this teacher's death, but I
- 3:50:28think the much larger but that's a symptom of the problem.
- 3:50:32The much larger issue is going to be investigating, who else
- 3:50:36knew about this and engaged in it and encouraged the behavior.
- 3:50:41And you know you could say well it's tping Mike I mean you know
- 3:50:46it no one gets hurt TP. Yeah.
- 3:50:48Until this person did you know, and and besides that is you said
- 3:50:54Dan, it's like, There has to be, and you said this yesterday, I
- 3:50:58think after the show too, there has to be a separation between
- 3:51:03teacher and student. There has to be like this
- 3:51:06boundary that's clearly set. You know, if I saw my teachers
- 3:51:10out in the wild, when I was in elementary or middle school, He
- 3:51:13said hello and stuff but we didn't hang out.
- 3:51:16Okay, we didn't You know, we didn't go to the movies
- 3:51:20together. We weren't buddies, my parents
- 3:51:25weren't buddies with them. You know, this there was a
- 3:51:28boundary there because there has to be a boundary there.
- 3:51:31There's supposed to be um, so, you know, that's the other
- 3:51:36problem that I have with all of this Yeah, no, that's that's
- 3:51:42just it. There's no boundary and and you
- 3:51:45know you can say, oh yeah, there's boundaries.
- 3:51:47Really look at all of the court cases and there was there was
- 3:51:51four separate stories that I could have pulled up today about
- 3:51:55teachers. Who did adult things with their
- 3:51:59students? Yeah, and I chose not to but I
- 3:52:02could I was thinking about bringing up to kind of reinforce
- 3:52:05this, but we see this all the time.
- 3:52:07So whatever. But but we have teachers and
- 3:52:10students Crossing that boundary all the time, it's to the point
- 3:52:14where the the boundary is at least blurred at the most no
- 3:52:17longer exists. And then we have parents who
- 3:52:21have just completely turned over the raising of their children to
- 3:52:24this group and I'm not trying to throw teachers under the bus.
- 3:52:27I'm really not absolutely but But in the same respect, we have
- 3:52:33to have some level of monitoring some level of accountability and
- 3:52:37I'm sorry, I'm sorry that teachers are underpaid, I'm
- 3:52:40sorry that they're overworked, it sucks.
- 3:52:42But if you choose to do that job, you have to be held and
- 3:52:47hold yourself to the highest of Standards.
- 3:52:49It's just the way it is. And if you can't do it, don't do
- 3:52:52the job. And I'm sorry if that sounds
- 3:52:54harsh, but we're talking about forming human beings here.
- 3:53:00We're talking about young impressionable Minds, that have
- 3:53:03to be led in the right direction.
- 3:53:04And again, I'm sure there's people out there going well,
- 3:53:06Dan, it was just TP, I get it, but it is again.
- 3:53:09It's an encouragement of a knot, right Behavior?
- 3:53:11Right. That's that's the part.
- 3:53:13Not right behavior. And now here we are, that's the
- 3:53:16part. That's the problem.
- 3:53:17If it was, if this was a story about teenagers TP and the
- 3:53:21teacher didn't know about it and and it was just one of those
- 3:53:24things and, you know, he ran out there to try and stop him and he
- 3:53:28fell, and he died that just be the end of the story.
- 3:53:31Tragic kids should be prosecuted.
- 3:53:33End of story. Not much to talk about.
- 3:53:36We probably wouldn't even bring it up or maybe just as a as just
- 3:53:39a sort of oh yeah. And then this happened. but the
- 3:53:43fact is that, when it's an encouraged Behavior by adults,
- 3:53:48You know, the problem with that too is what kind of message does
- 3:53:52that send like? Okay, as we're gonna take off
- 3:53:56points, if you get caught, so don't get caught, so it's okay
- 3:53:59to do stuff. That's kind of illegal because
- 3:54:02again, That's, you know, you could call it vandalism, you
- 3:54:07could even call it criminal damage depending on what it is,
- 3:54:10you do. We're saying that's kind of,
- 3:54:13okay? As long as you don't get caught,
- 3:54:18like what kind of message is that sending I guess?
- 3:54:21And I'm not, you know, I'm not trying to be the morality
- 3:54:24monitor here like, you know, I'm not trying to, you know, bring a
- 3:54:29Karen storm in here but it's somebody died and people knew
- 3:54:35about all this going on and I don't know, would would I feel
- 3:54:39good or let's, you know, those of you that may have a, that may
- 3:54:42not think this is such a big deal.
- 3:54:43If you sent your kids to that school, Would would this be
- 3:54:48something that you were okay with your kids learning?
- 3:54:52Especially when starting it big on the soapbox but Here in the
- 3:54:57United States. It's not like we're top in math
- 3:54:59and science. It's not like we're leading the
- 3:55:01world in the most educated people on, you know, globally.
- 3:55:05you know, maybe if we spent more time on arithmetic and algebra
- 3:55:09and you know on literacy and on history and physics and
- 3:55:16chemistry and less time on he did you keep his house, you
- 3:55:21know, if we spent you know if we read diverted the the priorities
- 3:55:24here or diverted the priorities uh maybe Maybe we wouldn't have
- 3:55:31stuff like this happening. I don't know, maybe we'd be
- 3:55:34better at globally in education. I don't know.
- 3:55:37But that's, that's where I'm at on this Dan and I know I, we
- 3:55:42talked about this so much the last few days.
- 3:55:44I gotta believe you're kind of there also.
- 3:55:48Oh yeah. You said you said, you didn't
- 3:55:51want to be the morality police. I will be right as right?
- 3:55:55It is just that simple. And I say that as a flawed human
- 3:55:57being who makes mistakes every day.
- 3:55:59Right? And understands and acknowledges
- 3:56:02that everybody else does too. But that does not mean you set
- 3:56:06up the behavior. You know, bad behavior, making
- 3:56:10bad choices. That's the exception and you
- 3:56:13manage and deal with the exceptions.
- 3:56:15You don't make it the rule but they set up a damned point
- 3:56:19system. It's amazing.
- 3:56:23It's The Hazing story all over again.
- 3:56:25Just instead of, you know, students, you know, beating each
- 3:56:28other, you know, and a coach standing by and watching it's
- 3:56:33like encouraging vandalism of property, but it's okay because
- 3:56:38the teachers are in on it. Kind of sorta.
- 3:56:43But maybe like then you get into the other areas of like well
- 3:56:47maybe this teacher's wife wasn't in on it and you know, now her
- 3:56:51husband is dead. And now she's having to learn
- 3:56:56that her husband was like involved in this kind of a
- 3:56:59thing. And now you know, what is a
- 3:57:02tragic death to her as being minimized because well he sort
- 3:57:07of was involved in this kind of thing and tried to engage in and
- 3:57:13and you know, an accident happened and obviously these
- 3:57:16kids didn't mean to kill him and that it is still a tragedy
- 3:57:19nonetheless. I mean regardless of what we
- 3:57:21feel about it, it's still very very sad but You know.
- 3:57:27Where what what there's a lot of questions that have to be
- 3:57:32answered now. All because people wanted to be
- 3:57:36stupid. Yeah, so Tim is clapping back a
- 3:57:44little bit in the comments and I don't blame him.
- 3:57:47He's saying, you know, there was no malicious intent, right and
- 3:57:51and and and I totally agree. There was no malicious intent.
- 3:57:54However, Just because there was no malicious intent does not
- 3:57:59make it right. and something that that was portrayed
- 3:58:07obviously because there was a point system portrayed us to be
- 3:58:10good fun or sporting or whatever word you want to put to it.
- 3:58:14You know was one step. Into something that was not
- 3:58:20right and it ended in a tragedy. But this is this is the lesson
- 3:58:26that I wish more and more people would get is every time you make
- 3:58:30a step towards something. That isn't right.
- 3:58:31You're one step closer to it going haywire. and heaven forbid
- 3:58:36that it should ever happen, but it can And here we are.
- 3:58:41Now this kid's life, who ran that guy over is forever
- 3:58:46changed. Yes, he will carry this with him
- 3:58:48regardless of his sentence. Regardless of whatever he will
- 3:58:51carry it with him until the day he dies.
- 3:58:55That family, you know, that Laura the teachers wife and they
- 3:58:59had two children, their lives forever changed and for what.
- 3:59:05Right? For a stupid thing, right?
- 3:59:09That you know what? If you want to have some kind of
- 3:59:12student teacher bonding, find another way, get out onto a
- 3:59:16field and go teachers against students and flag football or
- 3:59:20something. I don't know.
- 3:59:20But this certainly isn't the answer because again, it's one
- 3:59:24step into something that is not right, well, and it was off
- 3:59:28school property was after school hours, you know, that's the
- 3:59:32other thing, you know, because somebody will inevitably say
- 3:59:34well, if what if they played flag football and somebody fell
- 3:59:37on somebody else and broke their neck or what, you know, But
- 3:59:40that's a little that's a lot different.
- 3:59:41And again I'm not saying this student, I ran over homogeneous,
- 3:59:45right? I'm not saying this student that
- 3:59:47ran over the teachers a monster. We know here on TCF we have a
- 3:59:51lot of There's a lot of black and white.
- 3:59:53Okay, there's a lot of you know, this person did child stuff this
- 3:59:57person did murder this person, you know had 32 theft
- 4:00:01convictions. You know, that's all just stuff
- 4:00:04we can we can put those people in a box and say, okay.
- 4:00:08Obviously wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.
- 4:00:13This is one of those that yes, it's wrong.
- 4:00:15But it these are not. Absolutely, like the dregs of
- 4:00:20society. These are kids that did
- 4:00:22something that kids do And then because adults got involved and
- 4:00:27tried to encourage the behavior something bad happened.
- 4:00:31Hey, we wouldn't even be talking about this.
- 4:00:33If the guy didn't get run over of course not it probably go on
- 4:00:36and on and nothing as long as nobody got hurt.
- 4:00:39This would be something that went on at the school and it was
- 4:00:42a fun thing and a lot of dah. and I don't you know, and I
- 4:00:47guess as long as no one gets hurt, you know people would say
- 4:00:49well, what's the problem but this is where the problem is
- 4:00:52because there's always that that one case scenario where Well,
- 4:00:57then what happens when it does happen?
- 4:01:00You know what happens when this does occur?
- 4:01:03Um, that's you know that's that's the problem here again.
- 4:01:06And again I don't want to demonize the kids for being
- 4:01:10kids. You're right Dan that kid's life
- 4:01:14is forever changed. He'll never be this.
- 4:01:17Who knows if he's, I mean, is he gonna go to prison?
- 4:01:19You know, is he going to whatever the case whether he
- 4:01:24goes to prison? Danger.
- 4:01:29Me lost. Michael.
- 4:01:30Oh Up up there. I am.
- 4:01:31Okay, now you're back, whether he goes to prison was.
- 4:01:34Yeah, whether he goes to prison charged with negligent homicide
- 4:01:37or doesn't the kids conscience is mine.
- 4:01:41He's forever. Gonna think about that.
- 4:01:45So, you know, that's, that's the issue.
- 4:01:47Dan, that's the other issue is there's there's lives that are
- 4:01:50forever changed as a result. That's just and I mean look
- 4:01:56accidents can and will happen every day and we're not going to
- 4:02:00engineer that out nor do I want us to write another discussion.
- 4:02:04I feel like we've gone too far in engineering out accidents
- 4:02:08because it's like a crime to like your kid play outside now,
- 4:02:10which is just absolutely ridiculous.
- 4:02:12But there's a difference between that a legitimate like you said
- 4:02:17with a flag football idea. Well what if somebody Falls and
- 4:02:19break their not? Well that's an accident.
- 4:02:21And this technically is an accident too, but it is an
- 4:02:24accident born out of A wrong thing, right?
- 4:02:30It is a wrong thing, right? And not bad intention wrong
- 4:02:33thing. Yeah.
- 4:02:36It. I mean it's it's not it's not
- 4:02:38the crime of the century obviously, but it is one step
- 4:02:41into an unripe territory. Yeah, that's all it takes
- 4:02:45sometimes. Yeah and I think the other thing
- 4:02:47is is I know what's going to wind up happening.
- 4:02:49Is you know, this is gonna descend it, the lawyers, of
- 4:02:52course, whenever they see this they salivate and in the courts,
- 4:02:56we're going to see you know, there's gonna be civil cases up
- 4:03:00the Yang about this. I'm sure. and there's gonna be
- 4:03:04because the kid that ran over the teacher, I mean, I'm sure
- 4:03:10that family will probably wind up suing the school because they
- 4:03:14it's sanctioned and encouraged the behavior and but for that
- 4:03:19you know the kid wouldn't have done it and we're gonna see all
- 4:03:23that going on too. And that's that's the other kind
- 4:03:26of dark side of this. And this will this will not get
- 4:03:29resolved for probably 10 years. Or more. and, you know, I just,
- 4:03:37I just, I feel really bad for every all the parties involved
- 4:03:41in here. Um, I really do but yeah, it's
- 4:03:46totally preventable. you know, I know when we were kids and I
- 4:03:49know look, we grew it, Dan, you, and I grew up in this time where
- 4:03:52there was DodgeBall and And you know, they don't play dodgeball
- 4:03:56anymore, you know, we don't throw the those dodgeballs hurt
- 4:03:59when they hit you in the groin. I mean, you were down for five
- 4:04:02minutes or more. I mean it was a different time
- 4:04:06man. And and and I'm not saying we
- 4:04:09take away everything fun and we stopped having PE and we stop
- 4:04:12doing stuff because somebody might get hurt because that's in
- 4:04:15the same that's in it, like a sanctioned thing, like this is
- 4:04:18school, there's physical activity, there's exercise,
- 4:04:21somebody could pull a muscle, somebody could fall, somebody
- 4:04:24could break a bone, somebody could get hurt when I broke my
- 4:04:28right arm. You know what?
- 4:04:3040 years ago? It was on school property.
- 4:04:32I was playing on the on the monkey bars and you know, When
- 4:04:36we were kids, all the playground equipment was like freaking
- 4:04:40steal. It was iron like you know,
- 4:04:43wrought iron steel, it was completely crazy.
- 4:04:47The that was the equipment we had and, But nobody intended for
- 4:04:55bad things to happen and and generally speaking, you know, my
- 4:04:58parents didn't sue the school because I got hurt on school
- 4:05:00grounds, you know, it's just a different time too.
- 4:05:04So there's just a lot of other considerations you have to have
- 4:05:06and you kind of have to read the room or read the society.
- 4:05:09The way Trends are now before you engage in this kind of
- 4:05:12behavior. Totally agree.
- 4:05:17I will leave you with that last word Michael you get that last
- 4:05:20word. Thanks for thank you so much Dan
- 4:05:22talking with you about yes, but I agree with you tragedy.
- 4:05:25Yes. All right friends.
- 4:05:29So that's the update on that. I'm going to continue to keep an
- 4:05:31eye on this case and see where it goes.
- 4:05:33I'm hoping. I'm hoping that they don't throw
- 4:05:37the book at the kid, especially since the family is saying
- 4:05:40that's not what they want because I don't think it helps
- 4:05:42anything in the same respect. There's got to be some kind of
- 4:05:47punishment and I I agree with Mike that I don't think the
- 4:05:50punishment should stop at. This student I think if there
- 4:05:56were faculty members that were involved which obviously there
- 4:06:00were because there's a point system that's been established
- 4:06:03in the teacher was excited to catch him in the act so he knew
- 4:06:06it was coming. There has.
- 4:06:10There has to be better than that.
- 4:06:11I'm just saying, but you know, if you have different thoughts,
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