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- Lucas: So last week I finally watched the documentary on Blockbuster's rise and fall, and it got me thinking about the company that killed it — Netflix. But here's the thing that struck me: Netflix didn't just beat Blockbuster once. It has reinvented itself, fundamentally, at least three separate times in twenty-five years. Luna: Three times? I can think of the DVD to streaming shift, and then the move into originals. What's the third? Lucas: The third one is happening right now — the pivot from a pure subscription streaming service into a business that also runs on advertising revenue, video games, and live events. But let's start at the beginning, because the 2007 pivot was the most radical. Netflix had seven and a half million subscribers in 2007, all getting red envelopes in the mail. They were a logistics company — fifty million DVDs shipped per month, fifty-eight distribution centers across the US. And that year they launched streaming as a free add-on for the DVD plan. Luna: Right, and at the time streaming was terrible quality, the library was tiny, and most people had awful internet speeds. It seemed like a side project. Lucas: Exactly. But Reed Hastings has said publicly that he saw DVD peaking by 2010, and he knew — if Netflix didn't own the next distribution method, someone else would. So they deliberately cannibalized their own cash cow. They put streaming first even though it meant fewer DVD subscribers over time. That's the hardest strategic move for any business: undermining your own profitable product while it's still printing money. Luna: And a lot of companies just can't do it. Kodak invented the digital camera but buried it because film was too lucrative. Lucas: Exactly. So 2011 is where it gets really painful — and really instructive. Netflix announced it was splitting its DVD and streaming businesses into two separate companies. The DVD arm would be called Qwikster. And they raised the price by sixty percent on customers who wanted both services. The backlash was immediate and brutal. Luna: I remember this. It was a PR disaster. They lost eight hundred thousand subscribers in one quarter. Lucas: The stock crashed from three hundred dollars to under sixty. But here's the counterintuitive part — that aggressive push actually accelerated the transition to streaming far faster than if they'd been gentle. Hastings apologized, killed Qwikster, but kept pushing streaming. And by 2013, they had thirty-three million streaming subscribers globally. The DVD business was in decline, but streaming was growing exponentially. Luna: Which brings us to the second big pivot: original content. They bet a hundred million dollars on House of Cards — two full seasons, no pilot — based entirely on data about what their subscribers watched. Lucas: A hundred million dollars for a show starring Kevin Spacey, directed by David Fincher — it was a huge gamble. But it signaled something bigger: Netflix was no longer just a distributor. It was a studio. And that changed the entire Hollywood landscape. By 2018, Netflix was spending more on content than any other studio in the world, over twelve billion dollars a year. Luna: And the streaming wars followed. Disney+, HBO Max, Apple TV+, Peacock — everyone launched their own service. Suddenly Netflix was competing against the biggest content libraries in history. Lucas: Which brings us to the third pivot we mentioned. In late 2022, after years of saying they'd never do ads, Netflix launched a lower-priced ad-supported tier. And in 2024 they started rolling out games — over ninety titles now, mostly mobile. They've also dipped into live events like the Netflix Cup golf tournament and a live roast of Tom Brady. Luna: It feels like they're hedging. The core subscription business is maturing, subscriber growth in the US is flat, so they're looking for new revenue streams and new engagement hooks. Lucas: Which is exactly what a healthy pivot looks like. You don't wait until you're desperate. You zig when the market thinks you'll zag. And speaking of pivots — I want to mention something that makes it possible for us to keep doing deep dives like this on the show, without ads getting in the way. Luna: Yeah, this is a good moment to pull back the curtain a bit. We don't run ads, and that's intentional. The show is listener-supported, and a small group of people already chip in monthly through Buy Me a Coffee. Lucas: It's Buy Me a Coffee dot com slash fexingo. If these conversations have moved your work forward or changed how you think about business, that's where you can keep it going. No pressure ever — just a heads-up that it's how we keep the show ad-free and independent. Luna: And because of that support, we can spend two weeks researching a single pivot like this one instead of rushing through. So genuinely, thank you to anyone who's already part of that. Lucas: Alright, back to Netflix. So we've got the dvd to streaming pivot, the originals pivot, and now the advertising and gaming pivot. But I think there's an even more interesting pattern underneath all of this. Every pivot Netflix has made was a bet on a future that wasn't obvious at the time. Luna: What do you mean by wasn't obvious? In 2007, streaming was obviously the future, wasn't it? Lucas: Only if you believed internet infrastructure would improve fast enough. In 2007, the average US broadband speed was about five megabits per second. Netflix's streaming required three megabits for a decent picture. Only about half of US households had broadband at all. So it was far from a sure thing. Hastings has said he gave streaming a thirty percent chance of working. Luna: That's surprisingly low for such a huge bet. Lucas: Right. And the originals bet was even riskier. Netflix had zero experience producing shows. They were competing against HBO, AMC, all the networks. But they had data showing that subscribers who watched the original British House of Cards also watched David Fincher films and Kevin Spacey movies. So they triangulated. It wasn't a gut feeling — it was a calculated risk based on their own user data. Luna: And now every streaming service is doing the same thing. Disney+ has The Mandalorian, Apple has Ted Lasso. The playbook is public. Lucas: Exactly. The first mover advantage only lasts as long as it takes competitors to copy you. So Netflix has to keep moving. The advertising tier now has over forty million monthly active users globally. That's a massive new revenue stream, but it also changes the business model fundamentally. They now have to satisfy two customers: subscribers and advertisers. Luna: That's a tension. Advertisers want more ad inventory, which means longer ad breaks, which annoys subscribers. Lucas: And that's the classic pivot tension. Every time you change direction, you risk losing the core users who loved you for what you were. But if you don't change, you die. Blockbuster is the cautionary tale. They had the chance to buy Netflix for fifty million dollars in 2000. They passed. By 2010, Blockbuster was bankrupt. Luna: So what's the fourth pivot look like? What's Netflix's next move? Lucas: My guess is they go deeper into live events and sports. They've already tested it with the Netflix Cup and the NFL Christmas games. Sports rights are expensive, but they drive huge live viewership and advertising revenue. The other frontier is gaming — if they can turn Netflix into a destination for casual mobile games, that's a whole new engagement loop. Luna: But gaming is a crowded space. Apple Arcade, Google Play, Xbox Game Pass. Netflix doesn't have a natural advantage there. Lucas: They have distribution — two hundred sixty million subscribers. If even ten percent of them play a Netflix game monthly, that's twenty-six million users. That's a meaningful gaming platform. And they don't need to be the biggest. They just need it to be sticky enough to reduce churn. That's the real metric: not game revenue, but subscriber retention. Luna: So the pivot isn't about replacing the core business — it's about defending it. Lucas: Exactly. And that's the most underrated lesson from Netflix's history. The best pivots aren't desperate scrambles. They're deliberate moves made from a position of strength, anticipating where the market is going before you're forced to go there. Netflix is doing that right now with ads and games. The question is whether it'll be enough for the next decade. Luna: Any final thought on what other businesses can learn from this? There's a tendency to think 'we're not Netflix, we can't pull off a big pivot.' Lucas: The scale is different, but the logic is universal. Every business has a version of the DVD that's currently profitable but will be obsolete in five years. The hardest question a leader can ask is: what is our DVD? And once you identify it, the second hardest question is: are we willing to kill it before we have to? Most companies aren't. The ones that are, survive. Luna: And that's why we keep coming back to these stories. They're not just history — they're a mirror. Lucas: That's it for this episode of The Pivot Podcast. Next time we'll look at a company that failed at its pivot spectacularly, and what went wrong. See you then.