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Hour 3 Live with Dave Bartoo from Pearl River Resort: CFB Win Total Time! Can Lebby get to 5 wins? Golding to 8? We discuss! · Out of Bounds with Bo Bounds

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  Speaker 5: have do you have any numbers on Arnett? Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got them right here. I got it right here.
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  Speaker 5: So we got Zack Garnett is the new This is
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  Speaker 5: the weirdest thing in the world. Zack Garnett was the
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  Speaker 5: defensive coordinator at Misissippi State. The interim coach was fired
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  Speaker 5: after going five and seven to hire a two to
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  Speaker 5: ten coach, and now he is back as the defensive
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  Speaker 5: coordinator after two years of the Mississippi State fan base
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  Speaker 5: getting HUTZLERD what is Zach Garnett as DC?
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  Speaker 2: Right? So, and we got we got twenty twenty, twenty
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  Speaker 2: one and twenty two for him as DC. Okay, right,
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  Speaker 2: then you have him as head coach twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 2: Brock was a DC then right, and then Hudsler the
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  Speaker 2: last two years. So pre Zach so twenty nineteen the
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  Speaker 2: defense I had it grated out as number eighty three
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  Speaker 2: in the country. Okay, they were sixty third in generating
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  Speaker 2: momentum for the offense, they were eighty second in EPA,
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  Speaker 2: and they were one hundred and second in points allowed
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  Speaker 2: per snap in scoring efficiency.
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  Speaker 5: That's the year before he got there.
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  Speaker 2: Year before he got there, Okay, one hundred and second.
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  Speaker 5: Okay. So twenty twenty bobs Sho struggled a little bit
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  Speaker 5: and Joe Moorehead's last year a lot of bit Okay,
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  Speaker 5: a lot of bit, a lot of it.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get let's give Zach a credit here. He took
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and second defense scoring efficiency defense in nineteen
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  Speaker 2: and it was number forty five in twenty twenty. Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 2: So there was an immediate impact there. But that was
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  Speaker 2: his best year.
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  Speaker 5: Which is interesting because he had to play ten conference
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  Speaker 5: games because of COVID, right, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, and so overall he was ranked fiftieth nationally twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty twenty one, it was seventy third, so it took
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  Speaker 2: a step back, okay, and then twenty twenty two bumped
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  Speaker 2: right back up to twenty twenty levels at fifty five.
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  Speaker 2: All right, So his strength is is scoring efficiency a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. So his three years his average scoring efficiency
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  Speaker 2: was sixty first in the country, okay. And his game
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  Speaker 2: control and momentum developed, which is the most powerful number
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  Speaker 2: in football outcome, that was sixty fourth.
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  Speaker 5: So you know, so he looks like Kirby Smart compared
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  Speaker 5: to Coleman Hutzler. But he had a more than solid
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  Speaker 5: run under Mike Leech, is what you're saying.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he he was, you know something. And this isn't
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  Speaker 2: adjusted for talent. This is raw numbers, okay, you know.
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  Speaker 2: To compare his scoring efficiency, he was forty five, sixty nine,
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  Speaker 2: and sixty eight in his three years. The last two years,
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  Speaker 2: Coleman was one twenty and ninety.
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  Speaker 5: One, twenty and ninety yep, right, Hustler was one twenty
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  Speaker 5: and ninetieth. So in twenty twenty four, Coleman Hustler was
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  Speaker 5: one hundred and twentieth in defensive scoring efficiency. In twenty
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  Speaker 5: twenty five, he was ninetieth right in defensive scoring efficiency yep,
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  Speaker 5: which is which puts him at one ten combined.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know so, so for his so for
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  Speaker 2: his two years, I'm sorry, one O five, my bad,
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  Speaker 2: good lord? Yeah, still early. Yeah, his basically his two years.
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  Speaker 2: If anybody remembers twenty nineteen with Shoop pre Arnette. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that was a better year than the last two. So
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  Speaker 2: think about that, y'all.
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  Speaker 5: Remember everything kind of imploded and got out from under
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  Speaker 5: Joe Morehead in year two. But a lot of the
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  Speaker 5: Jeffrey Simmons left, Jonathan Abram left, Montese Sweat left from
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  Speaker 5: the twenty eighteen team, and then you lost Fitz who
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  Speaker 5: could run the football and take the air of the
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  Speaker 5: ball and help the defense. I'm assuming some of this
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  Speaker 5: sol ties together. Bartwo can weigh in, But you had
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  Speaker 5: a good offense that could just pound the rock all
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  Speaker 5: that stuff that you want that Bar two has been
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  Speaker 5: talking about. You want to run the football and stop
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  Speaker 5: the run in this league. And then twenty nineteen Morehead
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  Speaker 5: and Shoop everything just went sad ways. So Bob Shoop
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  Speaker 5: in twenty nineteen was better than Coleman either one of
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  Speaker 5: Coleman Hudtler's years.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Okay, So I think that the sunshine here is
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  Speaker 2: Zach When he took over for twenty nineteen, right right,
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  Speaker 2: he inherited the one hundred and second scoring efficiency defense
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  Speaker 2: flipped it to forty five. Okay, you and I and
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  Speaker 2: everybody listening will absolutely one hundred percent by number forty
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  Speaker 2: five defense, scoring efficiency, defense in twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 5: Right now, yeah, I would think that, and you don't
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  Speaker 5: ever know how that correlates to wins, but I would
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  Speaker 5: think that that probably saves Levy's job.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, I'll tell you how it correlates to wins. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: There are three major metrics that have the highest correlation
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  Speaker 2: to win almost ninety percent. Okay. If you win game control,
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  Speaker 2: you win over ninety percent of the games. If you
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  Speaker 2: win scoring efficiency, you win over eighty eight percent of
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  Speaker 2: the games. Okay, okay, So if you go from ninetieth
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  Speaker 2: and one hundred and twentieth to forty fifth in scoring efficiency, right,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna win more football games. Like look at last year. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you are one. In my mind, you are one hundred
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  Speaker 2: percent winning those three games that you blew with a
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  Speaker 2: forty five defense Texas, Tennessee in Florida.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you know. And even if it's two out
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  Speaker 2: of three, let's say it's just two out of three. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: that's two more wins. Yeah you didn't have, So five
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  Speaker 2: and seven becomes seven and five. What's the energy and
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  Speaker 2: narrative today on State football. If you were seven and five.
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  Speaker 5: Jeff would have finished and he could have, like you said,
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  Speaker 5: because you gave back the Arizona State game, but took
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  Speaker 5: Texas Tennessee in Florida, so you didn't take everything. If
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  Speaker 5: he is seven and five, everybody is fired up about
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  Speaker 5: right Mississippi State Football and Jeff Levy two wins.
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  Speaker 2: Right, And this is why we talk about why staffing
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  Speaker 2: is so important. Day one, rookie head coaches their biggest mistake,
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  Speaker 2: what will get them fired ninety five percent of the
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  Speaker 2: time is they hire bad coaches and their buddies because
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  Speaker 2: they're too scared to make a decision on getting good
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  Speaker 2: guys there. They surround themselves with yes men and people
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  Speaker 2: that make them comfortable, and then they lose games and
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  Speaker 2: gets fired instead of bringing guys in at the beginning
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  Speaker 2: to have a higher ceiling and in a higher floor.
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  Speaker 5: Wow. And that's what Jeff Levy did. And he had
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  Speaker 5: no guidance from his afletic director. And you know Greg
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  Speaker 5: Byrne would not have allowed a Coleman Hutzler to be
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  Speaker 5: to be hired. Hudzler finished one hundred and twentieth in
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  Speaker 5: defensive scoring efficiency in twenty twenty four, ninetieth, and twenty
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  Speaker 5: twenty five. Zach Garnett is a massive upgrade. Now where
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  Speaker 5: will he finish, We don't know. As bart he could
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  Speaker 5: finish forty fifth, sixty fifth, or seventieth. That now, look,
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  Speaker 5: even if he finishes seventieth, that is a monster upgrade
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  Speaker 5: over Hutzeler and still could be enough to get Levy
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  Speaker 5: over the finish line. As far as Went, I don't
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  Speaker 5: know what that number is on campus, whether it's six Went.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, there's a there's a beautiful path to six.
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  Speaker 5: If you're any good coaching seven, I get that that
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  Speaker 5: would be considered just a phenomenal year. But when you
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  Speaker 5: have at Minnesota at South Carolina, those are not super
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  Speaker 5: good teams. And when you have Vanderbilt, Missouri and Auburn
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  Speaker 5: at home there and then Tennessee Tech and limon road,
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  Speaker 5: there is a path to six.
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  Speaker 2: We got to take advantage of right opportunity, especially those
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  Speaker 2: home games, especially the games early in the season. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the Missouri because Missouri isn't going to be without their
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  Speaker 2: running back, right because I carried them on third down and.
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  Speaker 5: all right, bar two, we our net is a major,
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  Speaker 5: major upgrade in the Seal Building on the campus Mississippi
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  Speaker 5: State for football. I mean he is a major upgrade, right, yes.
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  Speaker 2: And we are hopeful the upgrade is equivalent to what
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  Speaker 2: he did his first year in Starkville when he took
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  Speaker 2: the one hundred and second scoring efficiency defense to forty fifth.
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  Speaker 2: That was his best year too, twenty twenty, that was
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  Speaker 2: his best year as a play caller, and not just
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  Speaker 2: because of the numbers, but what he took and what
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  Speaker 2: he did with it. So now he's inherited the ninetieth
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  Speaker 2: scoring efficiency offense. Can we get back to forty five?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that is a win win win, win, win
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  Speaker 2: win win if he gets that thing into.
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  Speaker 5: The top fifty. And then if he can do all
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  Speaker 5: this along with Camarrio, Taylor and three three really good
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  Speaker 5: opportunities at home to win SEC home games against Vanderbilt, Missouri,
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  Speaker 5: and Auburn. None of those teams are gonna be great
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  Speaker 5: or even really good. Now, they may be. One may
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  Speaker 5: end up surprising us in being pretty good. But to me,
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  Speaker 5: that's the ceiling on all three of those teams.
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  Speaker 2: Well, exactly, and look at the turnover, the lack of
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  Speaker 2: continuity in the SEC. Right, everybody made a change, I
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  Speaker 2: mean including Mississippi State. Right, they made a change of
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  Speaker 2: defensive course. Yeah, but old miss made changes, lets Us
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  Speaker 2: made changes, Texas made changes, Oklahoma's remained the same, Georgia
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  Speaker 2: remained the same, but Tennessee turned over their DC, Arkansas
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  Speaker 2: new staff. Vanderbilt retained everybody. Yeah, you know, but they
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  Speaker 2: haven't been able to play defense since clark Lee got there.
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  Speaker 2: You know. South Carolina turned over the whole offense, Florida
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  Speaker 2: turned over the whole staff, Auburn turned over the pretty
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  Speaker 2: prince of whole staff. So I mean there is there
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  Speaker 2: is a lack of continuity. Somebody has to take advantage
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  Speaker 2: of it. And we saw years ago, remember when there
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  Speaker 2: was lack of continuity in the SEC. When when there
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  Speaker 2: was it was a little tumultuous with Auburn and Alabama
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  Speaker 2: and Mark Rick couldn't take advantage of it, and Gary
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  Speaker 2: Pinkel did.
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  Speaker 5: That's right, He went to the SEC championship game, right.
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  Speaker 2: And so when there's disruption in the elite brands and
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  Speaker 2: the elite recruiters, that's the opportunity for the bottom half
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  Speaker 2: to have great coaching and rise up. That was Mark
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  Speaker 2: Rick's time. He failed, right, that was his window to
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  Speaker 2: jump through when the rest of the league was a
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  Speaker 2: little discombobulated. That shows you how good Gary Pinkell was.
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  Speaker 2: Because the windows only open for one head coach one.
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  Speaker 2: Gary jumped through it and did awesome at Missouri. That
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  Speaker 2: was Mark Rick's opportunity in his career to put Georgia
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  Speaker 2: on the map because of what was going on. And
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  Speaker 2: Gary just said, now, dude, you aren't that guy, and
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  Speaker 2: Boom bumped him aside. And then once everything settled a
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  Speaker 2: lot of that, then the big boys already taken back over.
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  Speaker 5: Sure, you're when Lane Kiffin just took advantage of that
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  Speaker 5: opportunity the last two years in Oxford while other people
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  Speaker 5: couldn't get up and running and wrapped their brain around
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  Speaker 5: the portal.
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  Speaker 2: Right, there's these scheduling windows, and then there's then there's
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  Speaker 2: conference windows. This is why D'Antonio at Michigan State rose
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  Speaker 2: up and was in the top ten because when he
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  Speaker 2: was doing that, he was a great head coach. But
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  Speaker 2: Michigan was having problems. Ohio State was upside down, Penn
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  Speaker 2: State was turned over and had had had Bill over
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  Speaker 2: the train wreck called Bill O'Brien as their head coach.
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  Speaker 5: And so that's right, they were coming off the Sandusky.
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  Speaker 5: You had your three.
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  Speaker 2: Big brands all having problems. D'Antonio went, Okay, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: take over for a few years because I'm awesome and
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  Speaker 2: I know I don't have the talent, and he did.
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  Speaker 2: Gary Pinkele did the same thing and had his opportunity
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  Speaker 2: in the SEC.
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  Speaker 5: And Spurrier did the same thing at South Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well Spurrier's just that's bad, but still bad.
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  Speaker 5: It still applies.
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  Speaker 2: Oh God, I love Okay, And.
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  Speaker 5: I think you could argue with I'd like to go
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  Speaker 5: back and look, but I think you could argue that
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  Speaker 5: Mike Leach did that at Washington State while Southern cal
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  Speaker 5: was blanking around, while some other teams in the Pac
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  Speaker 5: twelve at that time were not doing what they were
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  Speaker 5: supposed to do bar two. Mike Leach said, I'll win
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  Speaker 5: eleven games at Washington State for the third time, at
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  Speaker 5: third time in school history or what.
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  Speaker 2: And it was Oregon's opportunity too, because Washington was struggling.
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  Speaker 2: He was struggling. UCLA couldn't figure it out. Well, you
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  Speaker 2: never figured it out. How the heck are you in?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, folks, if you've never been on the UCLA campus,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you want to talk about sunshine and palm trees.
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  Speaker 5: Give me the job today. I can kill the winner
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  Speaker 5: three months. God, I said, this is just unbelievable. Fifteen
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  Speaker 5: years ago when I went on campus. Jackson knows this.
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  Speaker 5: I came back, I got on the air and I said,
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  Speaker 5: I don't understand how they don't win. It's it's just
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  Speaker 5: it's it's beautiful people, a beautiful campus, big time research
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  Speaker 5: in academics on Billy West, close to the beach. What
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  Speaker 5: are we not doing? And and Dan Guerrero refused to
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  Speaker 5: ever raise any money or make them good. It was
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  Speaker 5: the most incredible thing I've ever seen in my life.
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  Speaker 2: No, it is just a you can't even we can't
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  Speaker 2: explain it. Right, it falls right in there with Ed
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  Speaker 2: Ordren winning national title. It's amazing, but I can't. I
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  Speaker 2: can't explain it.
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  Speaker 5: We we throw at to bar two. You have five
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  Speaker 5: seconds to answer this or you get lifted up by aliens.
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  Speaker 5: How did Jean Chiswick win the National change?
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Yeah, I mean it's just like well,
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  Speaker 2: I mean that just solidified Cam Newton is the greatest
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  Speaker 2: damn football player of my life.
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  Speaker 5: He is.
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  Speaker 2: I know. I will that's the hill I will die on. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: Cam Newton that single season, that was the single greatest
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  Speaker 2: pick up the bags on Saturday season I will ever
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  Speaker 2: see in my life in college football. Incredible flat outen
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  Speaker 2: amazing real quick though. Okay, it looks like SEC has
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  Speaker 2: had some rule changes yes for the year. Yeah, one
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  Speaker 2: of the one of the things is offensive pass interference
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  Speaker 2: will now result in a ten yard penalty. Okay, little
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  Speaker 2: little nugget on that how it will impact the game.
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  Speaker 2: It shouldn't impact the game at all. When you see
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  Speaker 2: a defensive penalty, that is a non self inflicted wound. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And what I'm talking about is a defensive penalty holding
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  Speaker 2: passing interference. It results in three extra points. And it
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  Speaker 2: all depends on when it happens first, second, or third down.
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  Speaker 3: Bar two?
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: I was thinking, but we got to hit Buster Faulkner
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: real quick? Is it right?
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: We gonna hit Buster?
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: I mean if we can do it later, if you want,
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: We've got another hour after this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Tomato tomorrow. I got Buster pulled up right here.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, let's do let's hit Buster Faulkner. Since Mississippi State
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: and Ole Miss are playing Florida, Yeah, and I really
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: like John Summer and I think he's got a chance
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: to do a good job there, and he was incredible
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: at Troy and Tulane. So Old Miss to me, Old
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: Miss has got a tough deal because they play LSU
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: at home, which is going to be an out of
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: your mind, emotional and mentally spent win or lose game
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: just because everything that is around it. And then they
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: go to Florida the next week, and then Mississippi State. Well,
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: I think I totally dropped the ball. Mississippi State does
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: not play Florida. That's okay, we still want to profile
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: Buster Faulkner. Misssippi State played Florida last year and of
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: course didn't kick a field goal and threw a pick
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: at a time when you run the football right off
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: the guard and set up for a field goal, why
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: did I dream that up? That's okay, all right, So Florida.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: Buster Faulkner's coming from Georgia Tech, where he had what
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: I thought was one of the most underrated quarterbacks in
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: college football the last two years, and I loved watching
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: him play. This kid was so good that two years
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: ago they took Georgia to a seven or eight overtime game.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: I watched every second of it. It was one of
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: the best performances I've ever watched in the history of
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: college football by this kid, in which Georgia out recruits
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: Georgia Tech by like fifty to sixty spots. But Buster
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: Faultner is now the OC at Florida for John summerl
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: is in an A B or C coordinator.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: He's a B coordinator, got it B coordinator, and to me,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: a lot of the attention focuses on Buster in the offense.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: I still think the strength of the Gators right off
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: the bat is going to be Brad White and Summer
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: all on defense. You know, you and you and I
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: have talked about Brad White. Brad White has won a
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: lot stoopso is Brad White. Probably half of his paycheck
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: because Brad, I mean seriously, Brad White's defense won him
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: a ton of game.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: You would have him in the top half of the
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: league as a d c R. Yes, absolutely, out of
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: the sixteen teams, Brad White would be one of the
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: top eight defensive coordinators the DC at Florida.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and a couple of years ago he'd probably
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: be closer to the top three. Okay, right, But there
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: was some slippage. This is why everything fell apart. Part
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: of it why I fell apart of Kentucky. But the
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: ceiling for Brad White is elite. He has an elite ceiling.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: I do not feel that Faulkner has that elite ceiling. Okay, Now,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Faulkner's floor is high his bad years. You know, you
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: look at Middle Tennessee, Okay, Now, Middle Tennessee has no
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: ten But they don't. Come on, no, they don't.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: I'm with you, under suck.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: And we can laugh at Middle Tennessee right now, because
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: they pulled to Chad Morris, they went and hired a
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: coach that was crappy, hoping he wouldn't be crappy, and
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: he's still crappy. Who is it, Derek Macy? Okay, go ahead, right,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: you know so. But at Middle Tennessee you look at
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: his numbers twelve, thirteen, fourteen, seventy, you know, in terms
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: of scoring efficiency, eighty second, seventy fourth, fifty seventh. Okay,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: they're all improving, they're all getting better. Then he popped one.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: At Tennessee. He was Middle Tennessee State was twenty third
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: in the country in two thousand and five in scoring efficiency. Now,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I know number twenty three isn't elite, but number twenty
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: three at Middle Tennessee State is incredible, pretty damn good, right.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: Actually that's elite for Middle Tennessee State.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Right it is. Then he goes to Arkansas State, Okay,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: seventy ninth, twenty ninth, and seventieth in scoring efficiency. Again
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Arkansas State. This is a program that recruits in the eighties, nineties,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: hundreds plus right, and he popped a top thirty scoring
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: efficiency offense there Southern miss for one year. We'll call
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: that a one off. And then at Georgia Tech, two
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: of his three years were really good. He was twenty
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: fifth in scoring efficiency. That's incredible in twenty twenty three, okay,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, it took us step back to eighty one,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: which is the equivalent of Mississippi State. In twenty twenty four, okay, okay,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: and then and then last year is thirty third in
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: scoring official Damn.
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: That's a big jump back in thirty five thirty three.
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: So that's impressed well.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: And so the question is, so like King, was King
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: hurt in twenty twenty four or did he Jackson?
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: Do you mind he did get hurt at Georgia Tech.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: And when you have a starting QB missed three or
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: four games, yeah, you know this, it can totally disrupt
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: the numbers, your reference.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: And it's not three or four games, right, because now
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: you have rusted. That's why you got to break out
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: of it. It's like it's like trying to stee at Missouri.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: He might come back in week four, six, eight, right,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: a lot hardy at Hardy Sorry, and he might come
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: back in week four or six or eight. We talked
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: about it. He might come back again.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: He needs to.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: Come back after the fourth game because Mississippi State plays
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: Missouri at home and start.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: But how much shows is he going to have when
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: he is cleared to play that first game. It's it's
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: going to take a while.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: Drink said. He he could be five weeks or eight
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: weeks away coach.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Speak, he has somebe we're doing week five and thirteen.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: He'll come back, right, Grea. So with Buster, he's he's
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: had a couple of elite years in it, but it
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: takes time to build to it. Right, It's never right
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: out of the gate, He's not.
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: Those are good numbers man, right they are, but again,
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: elite ceiling.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: You know, he's been a play caller for more than
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: ten years. He popped at twenty three at Middle Middle Tennessee. Right,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: so he's got a lot of experience. He popped at
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: twenty nine at Arkansas State, in a twenty five at
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Georgia Tech.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Right, and his progression is pretty good. Right, He gets
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: better pretty much year over year. And he's never had
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: a bad year. Back back two back to back years
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: down He's never had two regressive years, so if he
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: has a bad year, it immediately gets turned around the
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: other way, uh and goes positive. So between the two, though,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: I'm still higher on the ceiling of Brad White and
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: the Florida defense. I'm more scared, you know, if I'm
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: playing Florida, I'm more concerned about the strength of the
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: defense than the strength of the offense. Okay, but combined,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: very solid, Okay, pairing of OCDC.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, Faulkner is a that's a that's a
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: real good bee offensive coordinator.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Right, right, But I still think Brad White again, no
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: fair enough, is a better B B plus a minus
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: type of coordinator.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: And he had to deal with Stoops in Kentucky, so
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: he maybe even better than that, right. I mean, if
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: you'd drive Brad White at Texas or LSU or Alabama
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: with that kind of talent for four to six year stretch, what.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Would we have. Hell, even at Kentucky if they had
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: a decent offense.
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: They didn't believe Stoops, didn't believe in scoring points. No,
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: it's an incredible Colvin Hutzer didn't believe in stopping people.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: It's an incredible philosophy. But one that some people like
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: to adopt.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when did Stoops get hired at Kentucky?
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: Oh a million years ago, like twenty thirteen.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Okay, Well, I'm pulling all the numbers
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: on Kentucky's scoring efficiency since he beats ten.
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: He beat Mullen in twenty sixteen, so he got hired
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: in twenty thirteen. He beat Mullen in twenty sixteen. Because
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: I was at Kentucky, I did a show for four
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: Rosas Bourbon.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, so was your fault?
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: It was my fault that team just it was post
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: It was the first year post Stack, and they had
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: to get Fitzgerald up and running, and they went to
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: Kentucky and lost. They kicked a fifty yard field goal
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: to try to win the game.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: But you know, and and so like with with Kentucky,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: they're their numbers offensively, I mean, twenty twenty four, one
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: hundred and twenty third scoring efficiency in the country. Who Kentucky?
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: Good grief? That's awful. Yes, one hundred and twenty third
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: in offensive scoring efficiency and win.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four, good lord and Ole Miss lost to
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: them twenty twenty five, ninety six at home, ninety six.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: That's still one of the most So the sixth unbelievable upsets.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Sixteen year average scoring efficiency rank of Kentucky Okay, sixteen
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: years national rank scoring efficiency average seventy first. That was
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: an average year in the last six sixteen years. That
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: was an average year at Kentucky.
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: He could never get out of his own way. Terrible
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: and he made over one hundred million dollars. Oh my goodness,
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: I mean it's just brilliant. I don't know what you said.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: He got hired in twenty thirteen. Yeah, okay, so twenty thirteen,
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: one hundred and third, twenty fourteen, ninetieth, twenty fifteen, ninety third.
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: So he started at Kentucky one oh three ninety ninety
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: three on offense and got his contract renewed.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Right, God bless him.
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• 32:10
  Speaker 5: know Bo. Please ask Bar two what Philip Montgomery brings
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: to the staff. I haven't heard a whole lot about him.
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: I would like to know where he fits in and
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: what he could possibly do for Jeff Levy and Camaro Taylor.
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: So for our listeners, Philip Montgomery, he's been at Auburn,
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: he's been a head coach at Tulsa. He's bounced around
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: a little bit. I think he's got a pretty solid
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: probably B minus or B grade as a coach. He's
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: a veteran. Levy and Philip Montgomery, I think we're together
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: at Baylor under Art Briles. Everybody knows what they did
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: on offense with RG three and that other dude I
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: can't remember his name at Baylor and they had a remember,
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: Art Briles was hired by Mike Leach. Art bros Was
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: a legendary coach in Texas high school football, and Leech
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: thought that that would be a good move for Texas
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: Tech to have all those connections. So in like nineteen
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: ninety nine or something, when Leech got hired from Oklahoma
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: at Texas Tech, he hired Art Briles. That gave Brills
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: his you know chance, his big shot, and I think
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: he became the head coach at Houston and then and
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: then Baylor. So bar two, can you tell me? What
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: can you tell me about offensive assistant coach Philip Montgomery
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: under Jeff Levy?
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, so right off the top of my head, without
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: pulling any numbers, Okay, Okay, I know him as a
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: play caller at Tulsa of having a really solid run. Okay,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: he wasn't the play caller at Baylor. Okay, we know that, right.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Art Briles never let nobody call play neither Stief's is
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: like it's like saying it just does Kyle Flood call
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: plays at Texas or Steve Sarkisy no Stive Cult's plays
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: shut up? Right? So so at Baylor. Uh now, he
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: was cooc at Baylor and so eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Look at look at these numbers. Gosh, Baylor number nine
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: in the country in scoring efficiency, number six, number six,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: number eleven four consecutive years. Right, we're just we're talking
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: about Kentucky just a second ago average in the seventy
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: one over sixteen years, right, and Brills in his last
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: four years, what was nine, six, six and eleven, six,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: six and eleven and n that's the average of number
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: eight in the country.
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: For four years straight. That is filthy.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Completely, That is the exact word. I mean that.
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: That is top shelf, right, that is top shelf stuff.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you've got to ask how much it costs,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: you can affoord.
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: That's right, right, that's exactly right.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: So Tulsa said, Okay, Phil Montgomery, you ain't ever called
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: plays before. Come on over here, and let's see how
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: much of art rubbed off on you. First year at Tulsa.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Forty ninth in the country. Now, let's think about Tulsa.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Tulsa's recruits in the hundreds, right, right, they don't have
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: to nobody, They got no talent. That's dust bowl, right,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: forty ninth in the country. Second season twenty sixth nice,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: third season, forty ninth. So he went forty nine, twenty six,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: forty nine out of one hundred and thirty teams in
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: three consecutive years.
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: That's strong.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: That is really strong, Okay, this guy.
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: So this guy, real quick, we're talking Philip McComb, Philip Montgomery.
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: He has been hired by Jeff Levy as an outfitsive assistant.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: And we had a listener who wanted to know about
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: if he was good and what all he had been
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: able to accomplish. This is this is good, go ahead.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Right and then but then the wheels fall off, right, Okay,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: you know, so we went forty nine, twenty six, forty nine,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: then we went we were kind of middle of the road.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: We went ninety eight, eighty eight, sixty six, so he
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: dropped way down, but then improved and then sixty six,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: then sixty five, then fifty four, so it was coming
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: back up, and that's when he got fired.
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: He was at Tulsa that long.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was at Tulsa from fifteen to twenty two.
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: Well, you just di stain it at a place like that.
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: All in all that that tells me my takeaway is
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: he's pretty damn good.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: You know. He is very very solid. Yeah, and we
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: had him when he left Tulsa. We still had him
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: as a four star offensive coordinator at the G six level. Okay, okay,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: that is totally solid.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: So that's that's good. And you know the last couple
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: of years have been a dysfunctional s show in start
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: Bull football wise, that MSU football fans have to be
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: excited to hear what they already knew, but you laid
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: it out. Numbers on the vast upgrade improvement of our
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: Nette over Hutzler because they don't want to be Hutzelert again.
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: And Philip Montgomery, if Jeff Levy allows him, could be
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: an asset as far as a voice in the room
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: and a voice on game day for Jeff Levy is
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: what you're saying.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Right, Well, and I mean, aren't they related now?
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: Uh? I don't think. I mean, I know Lev's related
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: to Brows because he married Browse's daughter and he's married to.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: He's okay, right, but you know the connectivity there is
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: the Baylor thing with the Baylor thing, right, yeah, and
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: so and then and then once he got fired at Tulsa,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: he went to Auburn for a season with Hugh, and
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Hugh couldn't I don't think he could figure out whether
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: he wanted to call the players. Let Phil do it.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: You know, if you look at Phil's play calling, Phil
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: and Hughes best play calling kind of mirrors each other,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: right in terms of their philosophy when they run on second, third,
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: fourth down, Phil, Phil Montgomery and Hugh Freeze. Oh okay, well,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: because Hugh hired him at Auburn.
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: Oh that's right, and it just but Hugh taking out Auburn.
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: Hugh has been a damn good play caller at Old
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: Miss in Arkansas State and Liberty.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Fascinating. Okay, good, right, really really good good? And then
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: and so and him and Phil seemed to get along
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: in terms of the numbers and so forth. And he
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: was there at Auburn for one year. It didn't work.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Hugh cut him loose. He went to the Birmingham Stallions.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four, he picked up a check at Virginia
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Tech and dropped a one oh four scoring efficiency. But
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: by then Brett Pryor is already out the door at
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Virginia Tech, and so now he's at He's Mississippi State.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: So you know, the potential that he brings in terms
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: of his mind as veteran experience, especially in play calling
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: on the passing game, I think is very solid.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: Okay, that's that's actually some good news. I mean, I'm
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: still extremely skeptical because they shouldn't be in this situation
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: in the first place at seven and eighteen and one
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: in fifteen, and this was all self inflicted. But Arnett
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: and Montgomery and Camaro Taylor and these are kind of
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: the most important pieces are big time upgrades compared to
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: where they were last year.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: I think the important thing here is the decision was
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: made to make a change right, right, and to try
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: to bring in a little bit more veteran presence, which
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: you have with Montgomery. And then defensively, we're hoping that
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: we get Zach Garnett twenty twenty that took the one
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: hundred and second defense Atssissippi State and turn it into
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: a top fifty defense the very next season, right, and
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: we're hoping for progression offensively, Okay, Mississippi States scoring efficiency
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: offense was eighty eighth and twenty twenty four last year
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: was seventy first, Right, So if we can get both
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: the offense, or you guys can get both the offense
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: and the defense into the top fifty in the country,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: you know, now all of.
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: A sudden, you could win some games to get.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: To seven and five. We talked about it, yes today,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: five and seven this year is better than five and
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: seven last year. Schedule over schedule, right, but there's a
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: it's amazing the difference perception wise between five and seven
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: and seven and five or.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: Six and six, no doubt.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Right, you know, somewhere, Jeff's got to win that big game, right, right,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: He's got to win that Texas game. He's got to
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: win that Florida game. He's got to win the Tennessee.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: He had his shots last year, you know, and I
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: do believe psychologically you have to lose before you win.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: And hopefully, well Jeff's done that well. But well, the
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: first part in terms of high pressure games, closing him
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: out in the fourth quarter, right, you know, he had
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: that experience last year, couldn't close it. When he has
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: the opportunity this year, we expect it to be closed now, right,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: We expect that game to be managed a little bit
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: differently and for the win to happen when he's in
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: a situation late in the.
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: Fourth Okay, Okay, wow, So I don't know whether to
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: be optimistic or just numb. After you're telling me about
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: the major upgrade that is Zach Arnett over Coleman Husser
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: and Philip Montgomery would be as far as grades. Philip
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: Montgomery would probably be the highest graded coach on the
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: staff regardless of position.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I don't have those. I don't have individual staff games
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: in front of me. I do recall who's your running
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: back coach? And I know that's you know, the position coaches.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: I know that's getting a little farther down there, but
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I do know the running back coach has an excellent
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: profile I believe for his career. But again, when we
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: talk about offense and defensive coordinator pairings, even with Zach
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: and Jeff, we're still talking the bottom half of the
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: SEC with with with OCDC combined.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: Okay, oh, okay.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Right, But again, but I I should also build on
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: that is the SEC doesn't have a lot of good
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: O CDC combinations. There's holes everywhere.
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: Right, How is that are you buying? I mean, I
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: just think it's part of what happens. You just can't
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: win every every time and blah blah blah. But but
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: are you are you buying that the Big Ten? I mean,
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: Signetti's a freak, But are you buying that the Big
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: Ten is that much better more well coached than the SEC?
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Oh? Not not that much better. I think we're you know,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: I think we're talking coin flips, you know. But but
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: when we're talking about quality of the staff from top
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: to bottom, there's there's usually holes everywhere. Right, But if
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: you if you look at the SEC, the balance has
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: shifted to the offensive side. The SEC is full of
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: great offensive play callers, right, really good ones. You know,
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: you start getting down into the tens and the names
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: are still really good defensive coordinators. Once you get past
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Kirby and then almost past Annibals, who's your guy? Who's next?
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: See?
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: I would be interested to see what your your numbers
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: come up with. Is it Brad White or is it
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: Baker at LSU or Golden at Ole?
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Miss? Yeah, they're all four star guys.
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, none of them are lead right, okay, right, yeah,
• 43:22
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