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- 0:00Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguar's football touchdown Jacobell touchdown
- 0:07Speaker 1: pass from the Corn. It's Monday, December two. This is
- 0:18Speaker 1: Jack Wars Happy Hour. Jack Wars Happy Hours presented by
- 0:25Speaker 1: Jet Home Loans. And now a guy who's only culture
- 0:29Speaker 1: comes from yogurt, Jane yes Um, Welcome in Jaguar's Happy
- 0:38Speaker 1: Our presented by Jet Home Loans. My name's J P. Shadrick.
- 0:42Speaker 1: His name is Tony Boselli. His name is Pete Prisco.
- 0:47Speaker 1: Here's what's coming up on the program today. Bucketeers twenty
- 0:49Speaker 1: eight Jaguars eleven will recap this football game all the
- 0:53Speaker 1: way through a quarterback change at halftime and now beyond.
- 0:58Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew will be the quarterback this coming Sunday against
- 1:01Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers. Doug Maron announced it today. The
- 1:04Speaker 1: defensive depth tested yesterday. We'll see how those guys stepped
- 1:08Speaker 1: up and played social media questions. They are piled up
- 1:12Speaker 1: today at ANFC South Review. I guess the Jags are
- 1:16Speaker 1: out of the race and around the National Football League.
- 1:19Speaker 1: That's all coming up with the biggest news today, of course,
- 1:23Speaker 1: the change of quarterback. Gardner Minshew will be the strutter
- 1:26Speaker 1: this week after coming in at halftime against the Bucks
- 1:30Speaker 1: yesterday and finishing the game. Doug Maron said it on
- 1:33Speaker 1: his conference call today, but boy, that first half guys
- 1:38Speaker 1: six possessions, three turnovers three three and ounce no juice
- 1:42Speaker 1: at all in the stadium in the first half. Now, listen,
- 1:46Speaker 1: it was as bad a start as you probably could
- 1:50Speaker 1: have uh, coming off the three losses in the division,
- 1:54Speaker 1: coming home for the first time in thirty five days,
- 1:57Speaker 1: thirty eight days, whatever it was, you is London and
- 2:00Speaker 1: the bye week, we're in there, and to start the
- 2:03Speaker 1: game the way you did offensively, I mean, it was
- 2:08Speaker 1: it was just it was surreal as far as the
- 2:12Speaker 1: lack of energy in the stadium, which you can't I mean,
- 2:16Speaker 1: that's not on and we set it before had I mean,
- 2:17Speaker 1: the fans are ticked, they're unhappy, rightfully so, and so
- 2:21Speaker 1: it's not on them, and and we talked about it
- 2:23Speaker 1: that it's imperative for the players to come out and
- 2:26Speaker 1: create the energy and get things going. And they did not.
- 2:29Speaker 1: And it started. It starts with the quarterback, uh, Nick
- 2:33Speaker 1: Foles and how he performed, and it just kind of
- 2:36Speaker 1: trickled down throughout the rest of the offense. Defensively, they
- 2:38Speaker 1: hung in there. You know. Yes, they gave up to
- 2:42Speaker 1: twenty five points in the first half, but a bunch
- 2:45Speaker 1: of turnovers. One of those was to pick six return
- 2:49Speaker 1: scoop score, So it's really eighteen points you gave up.
- 2:52Speaker 1: But still it's uh and it's not just a quarterback.
- 2:56Speaker 1: I mean the offensive line I think probably had their
- 2:58Speaker 1: worst day in my opinion. Uh. If you if you
- 3:01Speaker 1: heard Doug Morone today, Pete, you're with us all right?
- 3:04Speaker 1: Hell high feete? How are you? Um? I'm good By
- 3:07Speaker 1: the way, they might be the worst team in the
- 3:10Speaker 1: league right now. The worst they might be. You can
- 3:14Speaker 1: make a case for it. How so, oh what do
- 3:18Speaker 1: they do well? Do they do anything? Well? Um m hm,
- 3:25Speaker 1: well they have did you put it that way? Fete?
- 3:28Speaker 1: DJ harks you know top five and something in the
- 3:32Speaker 1: a f C and Leonard for that. They catch they
- 3:35Speaker 1: catch the ball out of the backfield. Well, it's like
- 3:38Speaker 1: number two rushing in the FC or maybe what are
- 3:41Speaker 1: they doing well right now? As we as we speak
- 3:43Speaker 1: of right now? Well, I mean, I mean you have
- 3:50Speaker 1: to be doing something happy if you have assets, you're stumped.
- 3:56Speaker 1: You have you're stumped again, I'm not stumped. I'm just
- 3:58Speaker 1: thinking through to have a precise answer before I give
- 4:02Speaker 1: it to you. I mean, what's Leonard for they can
- 4:05Speaker 1: punt well? Logan Cook's having a great year. There you go, Okay,
- 4:11Speaker 1: Leonard for dead was leading the anc and rushing. Does
- 4:14Speaker 1: he still he's close there? Let me check so you
- 4:17Speaker 1: have what do you have yesterday? Leonard yesterday had thirty
- 4:21Speaker 1: eight yards rushing on fourteen carries. What are they doing
- 4:25Speaker 1: well right now? But he also had fifty three yards
- 4:27Speaker 1: receiving on nine catches. What are they doing well right now? Um? Pete?
- 4:34Speaker 1: It's fair. I mean, when you lose four in a
- 4:36Speaker 1: row the way they've lost four in a row, nothing
- 4:39Speaker 1: is going right and nothing is very good. But I
- 4:44Speaker 1: mean I think you, I mean, you look at boy.
- 4:47Speaker 1: This is I don't even I don't even want to
- 4:49Speaker 1: say this. But if you look at say a number
- 4:51Speaker 1: of teams around the NFL who aren't being are aren't
- 4:53Speaker 1: performing at a high level right now? I mean, what
- 4:56Speaker 1: do the Bengals do well? What do we an adult
- 5:00Speaker 1: better at quarterback right now? Yesterday? I get that I'm saying,
- 5:05Speaker 1: but is there anything? If you're the Bengals, you're hanging
- 5:07Speaker 1: your hat on right now. Probably not Tony, but this
- 5:12Speaker 1: team can't hang it out on anything right now. That's
- 5:14Speaker 1: the I agree with you. When you're losing, that's that's reality.
- 5:18Speaker 1: That's the reality. At least one yesterday, Dophins one yesterday.
- 5:27Speaker 1: The Dolphins won yesterday. Yeah, Redskins. I understand that just
- 5:35Speaker 1: because you win one game, or lose one game, or
- 5:37Speaker 1: lose four in a row like we have is a good.
- 5:40Speaker 1: It's awful. It is awful with the capital a p.
- 5:44Speaker 1: We talked about that last week. We said that. I
- 5:48Speaker 1: said it. I said it's the worst team in the
- 5:50Speaker 1: league right now, and I said it three weeks ago.
- 5:53Speaker 1: If they don't, if they don't play better and they
- 5:57Speaker 1: continue to play the way they are, they won't win
- 5:59Speaker 1: an other game. I mean, you can't. I mean, so
- 6:04Speaker 1: the defense plays better. They actually held you know, Tampa
- 6:08Speaker 1: under all their season averages. Offensively, especially in the second half.
- 6:11Speaker 1: They played well. And but then all of a sudden,
- 6:15Speaker 1: you look up and you have four turnovers of the
- 6:17Speaker 1: offense and you can't score points. This team doesn't score
- 6:21Speaker 1: any points, and it continues to be a problem. They
- 6:25Speaker 1: didn't score points last year, they're not score points this year.
- 6:28Speaker 1: They have. They have a total of thirteen points in
- 6:30Speaker 1: the first half in the last four games. And so
- 6:34Speaker 1: it's not just defense, it's not just the offense. It's
- 6:36Speaker 1: all it's it's a it's an awful product on the
- 6:42Speaker 1: field right now. There's no way to sugarcoat it. And
- 6:45Speaker 1: the heart and then you got and then you got
- 6:48Speaker 1: the album Jaws. You got a contract for a guy
- 6:50Speaker 1: that you're mentioning that is out of this world. It me,
- 6:54Speaker 1: it's a disaster. Well, that is what it is. I mean,
- 6:57Speaker 1: there's nothing you can do about that. I know what
- 7:01Speaker 1: it is. It's not good. It's not good, but it's
- 7:03Speaker 1: it's it's a cost that's paid. There's nothing you can
- 7:05Speaker 1: do about it. So like you shouldn't play a guy
- 7:08Speaker 1: just because of his contract if he's not play him.
- 7:11Speaker 1: But that's just it. It's it's it's the whole thing
- 7:14Speaker 1: is a disaster right now. And and there's no silver lining.
- 7:18Speaker 1: There's nothing you can sit there and say, oh, well,
- 7:20Speaker 1: at least they have this guy, or at least they
- 7:22Speaker 1: have no you have a quarterback that paid all that
- 7:24Speaker 1: money that's now going to restrict your ability to do
- 7:27Speaker 1: things with the salary cap. Well, they're gonna have plenty
- 7:30Speaker 1: of cap room at the end of this year. I
- 7:33Speaker 1: meant million of it on the cap for for him, agreed.
- 7:39Speaker 1: And there's nothing you can do about that. You can
- 7:41Speaker 1: beg somebody to do an Oswailer deal and trade him,
- 7:43Speaker 1: and I hope you trade. They trade a third round
- 7:46Speaker 1: pick to get him off the books or something like that. Yeah,
- 7:49Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna happen. Um. And the I
- 7:53Speaker 1: mean when you say there's nothing to hang your hat on,
- 7:55Speaker 1: there's no good I mean, they do have some good
- 7:58Speaker 1: young players. They do, and Josh Allen being one of them.
- 8:03Speaker 1: And of them, that's right, they have good young They
- 8:05Speaker 1: have some good young players. Um. And I can't believe.
- 8:10Speaker 1: I can't. I can't believe I'm the one going there.
- 8:12Speaker 1: But as you look for the future and then when
- 8:15Speaker 1: it comes to you know, the draft and free agency
- 8:17Speaker 1: and everything else, there are a bunch of holes and
- 8:21Speaker 1: there's a bunch of areas that need to be addressed
- 8:24Speaker 1: and can you can you address those in one year? No? No,
- 8:29Speaker 1: that's the chance. And so that's where it gets frustrating.
- 8:33Speaker 1: And that's where it gets you. You look at it,
- 8:35Speaker 1: you're like, dang, how did how did how did we
- 8:38Speaker 1: get here so quickly? M Yeah, that was a question
- 8:47Speaker 1: player procurement. That's the easy thing to do. Players. You
- 8:51Speaker 1: gotta build players. You gotta find the right players. You
- 8:54Speaker 1: know that, Tony, you can have the greatest coach in
- 8:56Speaker 1: the world, didn't have any players. He didn't win it.
- 9:00Speaker 1: I agree. I mean it's a tough situation. It's continued
- 9:05Speaker 1: by the way. We haven't we haven't done the show
- 9:07Speaker 1: since Tom's little press conference last week. What the hell
- 9:10Speaker 1: was that? Well? I think there's been there's been articles
- 9:15Speaker 1: written about it, Pete that I'm sure you saw. There's
- 9:17Speaker 1: been a lot of talk about it. It was not
- 9:19Speaker 1: received very well. I did not. I don't think it
- 9:22Speaker 1: went over well. It didn't look much better after this
- 9:25Speaker 1: weekend either. The fans didn't like it. I don't think
- 9:27Speaker 1: the media like that. They jumped on should have liked
- 9:30Speaker 1: it was I didn't. I didn't say anyone should. What
- 9:33Speaker 1: was your biggest issue with it? Standards? And I've never
- 9:37Speaker 1: saying anything. That went to a new hye of never
- 9:41Speaker 1: saying anything. He didn't say one thing. Nothing. I didn't
- 9:44Speaker 1: say one thing other than to ploor the fans to
- 9:46Speaker 1: pay and go to the game. He did not. And
- 9:49Speaker 1: believe me, I've been around that guy a long long
- 9:52Speaker 1: time and I've dealt with him not saying anything. By
- 9:57Speaker 1: far and away. That was the worst instance of him.
- 10:00Speaker 1: I'm not saying a thing. He didn't say one thing,
- 10:02Speaker 1: didn't dress anything, didn't say anything. Do you no, I
- 10:10Speaker 1: did not come across right. I don't think it was.
- 10:12Speaker 1: The message was communicated very well. Whatever the message that
- 10:15Speaker 1: was trying to be uh conveyed um and it didn't
- 10:20Speaker 1: help anything. But don't you think he needs to go
- 10:23Speaker 1: up there and answer the questions and not get combative
- 10:26Speaker 1: about it, just to answer the questions. If you're gonna
- 10:30Speaker 1: go with yourself self up to that, which, by the way,
- 10:34Speaker 1: I don't know was he forced to do it, did
- 10:35Speaker 1: he want to do it that, you don't know. But
- 10:37Speaker 1: if you're gonna open yourself up that way, answer the questions.
- 10:41Speaker 1: You would have been underneath a rock for the entire season.
- 10:46Speaker 1: Answer the questions well. And I would tell him if
- 10:51Speaker 1: he walked in front of me, I tell him the
- 10:52Speaker 1: same thing I would be. I'll say this, I think
- 10:57Speaker 1: you don't have to answer all the questions, but you
- 10:58Speaker 1: have to answer some of the questions. And the hard
- 11:00Speaker 1: part was and it was set off by the one
- 11:04Speaker 1: of the early questions about Jalen Ramsey, and Tom's response was,
- 11:08Speaker 1: I don't want to He's not on this team. I
- 11:10Speaker 1: don't want to talk about him. The problem with that
- 11:12Speaker 1: is it should have been addressed when the trade was
- 11:15Speaker 1: made and then it's put to bed. You don't have
- 11:17Speaker 1: to talk about it again. We talked about that on
- 11:19Speaker 1: this show and it didn't happen then, so that kind
- 11:22Speaker 1: of started the entire communication between Tom and the press,
- 11:26Speaker 1: and then you know, you started asking about the coach
- 11:28Speaker 1: and what are you gonna do with that now? I
- 11:31Speaker 1: for one, and maybe you could have said it differently.
- 11:33Speaker 1: If you're Tom, if you're asked about whether you're gonna
- 11:36Speaker 1: you know what your evaluation of Doug Morone is right now.
- 11:41Speaker 1: The answer is that it's an ongoing process and will
- 11:44Speaker 1: continue to evaluate and in the decision we've made at
- 11:47Speaker 1: the end of the year, that would have been fine.
- 11:49Speaker 1: I mean that he said it differently, but I'm not
- 11:51Speaker 1: sure what else is he is supposed to say when
- 11:53Speaker 1: you start asking about the job status of the head coach. Well,
- 11:58Speaker 1: that I understand and add and the other whole nobody
- 12:02Speaker 1: would answer that question right and then. But the other
- 12:04Speaker 1: hard part is is you don't want to come across
- 12:07Speaker 1: and I think some of the people got frustrated is
- 12:10Speaker 1: imploring the fans obviously that drove the fans crazy and
- 12:14Speaker 1: going over statistics of young players doing good things because
- 12:19Speaker 1: nobody wants to hear that right now, even if it's true.
- 12:23Speaker 1: I'm not saying I mean, Josh Allen's a good player.
- 12:26Speaker 1: It's almost like you were patting yourself on the back.
- 12:31Speaker 1: So you can't do those things because you set yourself
- 12:34Speaker 1: up for what happened. I mean, if you get out,
- 12:36Speaker 1: I mean the conversation is answer the j Graham's question
- 12:40Speaker 1: because you didn't do it before, and then you go
- 12:42Speaker 1: on saying it's not good enough and needs to get better,
- 12:45Speaker 1: and it starts with me and it goes down to
- 12:47Speaker 1: the organization. I mean, that's the only thing you can
- 12:49Speaker 1: say at that and then you answer the questions the
- 12:51Speaker 1: best you can. What did you guys think of Doug
- 12:55Speaker 1: last week? Saying that there was internal questions about the
- 12:58Speaker 1: way he handled train Again, that was clear a shot
- 13:00Speaker 1: at Coughland. Well, that was the day before the cold
- 13:03Speaker 1: press Conference's it was clearly a shot at the other coach,
- 13:09Speaker 1: and my question that does well, that's part of the problem,
- 13:14Speaker 1: the other coach, or should be only one coach. I
- 13:19Speaker 1: don't know what Doug gains by saying that at this point, Well,
- 13:25Speaker 1: you know he's going out the door. Why not take
- 13:29Speaker 1: I'm going down, You're going down with me. Well, if
- 13:31Speaker 1: that's the case, then it's gonna be an ugly four weeks.
- 13:34Speaker 1: It will be an ugly four weeks. Of course, it's
- 13:36Speaker 1: going to be an ugly, disgusting in in fight he
- 13:40Speaker 1: saw fighting between players yesterday or arguments. It's going to
- 13:43Speaker 1: be banned for the next four weeks. Tony, There's no
- 13:46Speaker 1: doubt about it. You can't sugarcoat it, even you, in
- 13:50Speaker 1: your captain Sunshine ways can't sugar if you just can't.
- 13:55Speaker 1: I'm not trying to. By the way, have I tried?
- 13:58Speaker 1: Have I sugarcoated anything to last three weeks? I mean
- 14:02Speaker 1: one thing I sugarcoated? We all think about it because
- 14:06Speaker 1: the fans know, they'll know, they'll they'll tweet at Tony Basilio,
- 14:09Speaker 1: tell them what do you go ahead? Tell me what
- 14:12Speaker 1: do I sugarcoat it? Pete Will This team won another
- 14:14Speaker 1: football game this year. They might have an accident and
- 14:18Speaker 1: win one, but other than that, no, they stick. They're bad.
- 14:21Speaker 1: It's a bad team. Come on, let's be real. They
- 14:24Speaker 1: can win this week. By the way, the Chargers are
- 14:26Speaker 1: come across the country there four and eight. They just
- 14:28Speaker 1: lost the Broncos. They're awful on offense, I mean just atrocious.
- 14:33Speaker 1: They can't score points and they turn it over. So, yeah,
- 14:36Speaker 1: do you think do you think they'll win this week? Tonty?
- 14:39Speaker 1: You know, I mean, I hope I get locked the Chargers.
- 14:50Speaker 1: You're the most you're just locking for the Okay, next week. Okay,
- 14:55Speaker 1: it's a winnable game, But do you think they'll win it?
- 14:57Speaker 1: I don't. Okay, what's the next one? But you agree
- 14:59Speaker 1: with me to just aren't very good right now? No,
- 15:01Speaker 1: but they got passed rushers, they got third within James back.
- 15:04Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is a better quarterback than what Jacksonville has.
- 15:08Speaker 1: Hold on a couple of things there. Philip Rivers is
- 15:10Speaker 1: having a bad year. He's having a bad year. He's
- 15:13Speaker 1: still better than what they have. He was threatened to
- 15:15Speaker 1: be benched by Anthony Lynn. Basically, yeah, he's still better
- 15:18Speaker 1: than what they have. I do worry about their defense,
- 15:20Speaker 1: because I mean, Joey bosat Melvin Ingram, especially after what
- 15:25Speaker 1: I just watched on tape. Gardner better to be able
- 15:28Speaker 1: to be mobile, start running right now. Um, and Derwin
- 15:33Speaker 1: James is back. They're much better on the back half
- 15:35Speaker 1: with him obviously, So yeah, I'm not saying I wouldn't
- 15:39Speaker 1: favor us to win the game if uh, for entertainment purposes, Yeah,
- 15:44Speaker 1: if for entertainment purposes only, And the next read the
- 15:47Speaker 1: next three. Then the next week you go to Atlanta.
- 15:50Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no no, no, Tony, do
- 15:52Speaker 1: have a little schedule. What are you talking to? That's tough.
- 15:56Speaker 1: They're not good, but that's that's gonna be a dreadful trip.
- 15:59Speaker 1: You know the history of that nothing to play game
- 16:04Speaker 1: at the call, see if you think that place will
- 16:06Speaker 1: be going a little bit. And then at Atlanta. Yes,
- 16:09Speaker 1: Atlanta is not better than them. Atlanta is no good,
- 16:13Speaker 1: but they're not better than them. And then home against
- 16:17Speaker 1: the Colts. The culture probably needed to stay in the race.
- 16:19Speaker 1: They're not playing well, but they're not winning again, and
- 16:25Speaker 1: that would be that would be a bad thing to
- 16:26Speaker 1: be a high draft thing. Don't draft yet, Pete. So
- 16:31Speaker 1: they're gonna well, we might we eliminated yet, well, no,
- 16:34Speaker 1: we are. It's we're officially not I have officially eliminated,
- 16:38Speaker 1: you have, Yes, we are really officially eliminated from the playoffs.
- 16:42Speaker 1: So four wins, four and twelve will get you what
- 16:44Speaker 1: a top five pick, probably, So you're so you're gonna
- 16:47Speaker 1: go on an eight game losing. You're gonna fish the
- 16:49Speaker 1: season by losing eight straight games? Yes, oh, four and
- 16:55Speaker 1: eight might get you the way things are going, the
- 16:57Speaker 1: number three, yeah, four pair, So we should start eyeing
- 17:04Speaker 1: the draft. Then oh gosh, oh no, it's December. Second,
- 17:09Speaker 1: it would be the first Where do you want to dress? First? Peet?
- 17:11Speaker 1: Where would you go? Offensive line first and foremost? Tackle?
- 17:16Speaker 1: I would actually think I've started the defensive line, but uh,
- 17:20Speaker 1: there's going I'm going big one way or another. Yeah,
- 17:24Speaker 1: one way or the other. Two big people in the
- 17:26Speaker 1: first two picks. We gotta we're gonna have to talk
- 17:30Speaker 1: about that offensive line a little bit tony because back
- 17:33Speaker 1: is an issue. Well, Pete, we've talked Pete. I mean,
- 17:36Speaker 1: I love cam but we talked about it from the
- 17:38Speaker 1: start of the year. There was concerns we talked about
- 17:42Speaker 1: on the Thursday Show with Jeff Pete, you and I've
- 17:44Speaker 1: talked about it, and it's a it's an issue right now,
- 17:48Speaker 1: and it's not gonna be easy. You talk about a
- 17:50Speaker 1: matchup that is not favorable for us, the way Cam
- 17:53Speaker 1: is playing right now, it's gonna be tough for Cam.
- 17:55Speaker 1: And I feel, you know, I hate talking, you know,
- 17:57Speaker 1: I love protecting those guys and love being, you know,
- 18:00Speaker 1: in their corner. But right now, it is what it is.
- 18:02Speaker 1: And with Joey Bosa coming, Holy cowt and Melvin Ingram
- 18:06Speaker 1: is a good pass rusher as well, and Juwan Taylor
- 18:09Speaker 1: had the worst game of his uh of his young career. Now,
- 18:12Speaker 1: I think we play well yesterday either penalties, uh yeah,
- 18:17Speaker 1: penalties and some leakage in the second half of pass protection. Yeah,
- 18:21Speaker 1: it was not good. All right, we'll get back to
- 18:23Speaker 1: the old line a little bit later. We'll come we
- 18:26Speaker 1: have to. We had enough O line talk, right, No,
- 18:29Speaker 1: it was not at all, really, j P. You listed
- 18:36Speaker 1: some of them. You are amazing at this job. I mean,
- 18:40Speaker 1: you really nail things, so are you, Tony. Thanks a
- 18:44Speaker 1: lot for that. Back a moment defensive talk. A little
- 18:49Speaker 1: bit later, we'll get back to the quarterback change as well. Gardnerment.
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- 22:19Speaker 1: you look at what we're doing out there, it's it's
- 22:21Speaker 1: not it's not good enough. So um. You know, like
- 22:25Speaker 1: I said before, it's it's it's tough, um, and you
- 22:29Speaker 1: try to do the best job you can. But at
- 22:30Speaker 1: the end of the day, when you're when you're pulling
- 22:32Speaker 1: quarterbacks and you're pulling you know, maybe other players, there's
- 22:36Speaker 1: no doubt it's a direct reflection on on on me.
- 22:39Speaker 1: That's how I look at them. Like I said before,
- 22:41Speaker 1: We're gonna find a way and get get a good
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- 22:45Speaker 1: gotta get do differently, look to see if there's something
- 22:47Speaker 1: that we can build on, look to see if there's
- 22:49Speaker 1: something that can get us over the top. And then
- 22:52Speaker 1: you know, go out there and compute our asses off
- 22:54Speaker 1: and that's all you can do. Head coach Dug Marone.
- 22:58Speaker 1: Yesterday after the Jags lost to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
- 23:02Speaker 1: Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans,
- 23:05Speaker 1: j P Shadrick, Tony Boselli, Pete Prisco, glad you're along
- 23:08Speaker 1: with us social media questions. A little bit later, You've
- 23:11Speaker 1: asked Pete for people to tweet in and say, what
- 23:15Speaker 1: Tony is SUGARCOATD this year? No, not this year, the
- 23:19Speaker 1: last few weeks. Okay, well yeah, um well, if you
- 23:23Speaker 1: extended it to this year, you wouldn't. You'd have about
- 23:25Speaker 1: responding this the last month. Okay it somebody said, somebody
- 23:31Speaker 1: said Tony a SUGARCOATD. How horrible Andrew Norwell has played
- 23:34Speaker 1: this season? That's not true. So like number one Peze
- 23:37Speaker 1: said it last week, he's the thirteenth rade of guard
- 23:39Speaker 1: in the NFL. Um Oh no, I'm just saying that.
- 23:45Speaker 1: I don't. I'm saying but he is. He's about seventeen
- 23:52Speaker 1: sixteenth radeed guard. He's middle of the back. Okay, no,
- 23:55Speaker 1: that's not middle of the pack. He was. He was
- 23:57Speaker 1: terrible as he played. He played bad yesterday. There's sixty
- 24:00Speaker 1: four guards in this league on a regular basis. He's
- 24:05Speaker 1: in the upper he's in the upper third of guards.
- 24:10Speaker 1: So to say he is horrible is not accurate. And
- 24:12Speaker 1: any fan that and actually don't really want to do this,
- 24:15Speaker 1: like wants to sit down and watch the tape and
- 24:17Speaker 1: understand what is going on and watch him actually play.
- 24:21Speaker 1: That's fine, but you they're not doing that. They're going off.
- 24:25Speaker 1: You know, a penalty here, a bad play there. You
- 24:28Speaker 1: have to look at the entire thing, because I could
- 24:30Speaker 1: go do that with every offensive alignment in the league.
- 24:33Speaker 1: And I'm not like he was bad. He played he
- 24:35Speaker 1: played poor. Yes, yes, you think can was better yesterday?
- 24:40Speaker 1: A j Uh. I don't think any of them played well. Well,
- 24:45Speaker 1: somebody had to be the best. Looked like I didn't know.
- 24:47Speaker 1: I I wun't watch the tape, but it looks like
- 24:49Speaker 1: A j was better than all of them. Okay, a
- 24:52Speaker 1: j or Linda because the other three didn't play well.
- 24:57Speaker 1: Bunch of penalties up front yesterday, because we have sixteen
- 24:59Speaker 1: penalties on scene, which is the second most of the
- 25:02Speaker 1: single game in franchise history. I thought we were going
- 25:05Speaker 1: to defense. No, we're on We're here now, We're in it,
- 25:11Speaker 1: all right. So that's the next year, going in the
- 25:15Speaker 1: next year, going going into next year, Taylor will be
- 25:20Speaker 1: the right tackle. Is he the only guy? Are sure
- 25:23Speaker 1: of being in this spot? M good question, No, because
- 25:27Speaker 1: you can't change everybody, and so Brandon Linder will be
- 25:31Speaker 1: your center. I guess A j cand will be your
- 25:34Speaker 1: right guard. Will Richardson Um he had a bad day
- 25:38Speaker 1: well as well. Yesterday did not play well, You'll be her,
- 25:41Speaker 1: You'll be your left guard. Probably, I don't know, because
- 25:44Speaker 1: here's the thing. Can you you have so many holes
- 25:46Speaker 1: to fill where I sit right now, if you go
- 25:48Speaker 1: through that, the entire roster of what you have to fill,
- 25:53Speaker 1: you only have so many draft picks to do it with.
- 25:56Speaker 1: And so I'm not saying Andrew Noel is worth the
- 25:59Speaker 1: money you're paying him right now. You're paying him a lot.
- 26:01Speaker 1: But we've talked about that's what happens in free agency.
- 26:04Speaker 1: But I don't think you can just sit here today
- 26:06Speaker 1: and say Andrew Neill is gone. That's not accurate. Like
- 26:11Speaker 1: you have to look at other places you have to
- 26:13Speaker 1: fill and fix. And if Andrew Oil is one of
- 26:16Speaker 1: your more consistent offensive linemen, are you just gonna get
- 26:20Speaker 1: rid of him because you're mad how much you had
- 26:22Speaker 1: to pay him two years ago? I don't think so.
- 26:26Speaker 1: Now it has to be addressed. You have to look
- 26:28Speaker 1: at it. Can you restructure it, can you do things,
- 26:31Speaker 1: or can you find somebody as good or better? Then
- 26:35Speaker 1: you make the change. But until you know that, you
- 26:37Speaker 1: just can't just say get rid of them because I
- 26:39Speaker 1: don't like the deal we signed him to even though
- 26:42Speaker 1: he's probably playing consistently. One of the better linement that
- 26:46Speaker 1: we have is cap hit next year is fourteen million dollars.
- 26:52Speaker 1: So you gotta look at it. I mean, Pete, you
- 26:54Speaker 1: know this all the time. Guys, you're restructured. I mean,
- 26:58Speaker 1: now that's a that's a whole another issue. If he's
- 27:00Speaker 1: willing to restructure than then okay, but it happen is
- 27:03Speaker 1: fourteen million dollars they save nine by sending a packet.
- 27:07Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but you understand, you just can't start
- 27:09Speaker 1: getting rid of guys until you have someone to replace them.
- 27:12Speaker 1: There's only so many holes you can fill in each offseason.
- 27:15Speaker 1: A right, let me correct myself. They don't say they
- 27:17Speaker 1: save five and a half, so he's probably not worth
- 27:20Speaker 1: gut it. Okay, So I guess the bigger picture on this,
- 27:24Speaker 1: right is who's making all these decisions. There might be
- 27:28Speaker 1: different decision makers that have different ideas on offensive, right,
- 27:32Speaker 1: I mean, this all might be a different system that
- 27:36Speaker 1: they don't fit into. Well, then you have to make
- 27:38Speaker 1: wholesale changes. You can't do that in one year either, obviously,
- 27:42Speaker 1: you can't. You have to kind of build it out
- 27:44Speaker 1: of based on unless you just say, you know what,
- 27:46Speaker 1: we're gonna go super young and we're just gonna take
- 27:49Speaker 1: and I don't think you can do that the offensive line,
- 27:51Speaker 1: especially if you're gonna be going with a young quarterback
- 27:52Speaker 1: and Gardner Minshew cam Robinson be here next year. He's
- 28:00Speaker 1: under contract, but he's got I mean. The thing that
- 28:04Speaker 1: concerns me and it's he's coming off in a c L.
- 28:06Speaker 1: So I know that's hard. But I see the same
- 28:11Speaker 1: bad habits of leaning, turning, dropping his left foot when
- 28:15Speaker 1: he punches, you know, giving up the edges that we've
- 28:19Speaker 1: seen for the last three years. I've not seen improvement
- 28:23Speaker 1: in those areas. And that's what would be than me.
- 28:27Speaker 1: Could he go to guard, Um, I don't know. And
- 28:33Speaker 1: he's kind of got a nasty streak in it and
- 28:36Speaker 1: he has mentality where if you got a body on body,
- 28:40Speaker 1: you might be able to handle it, you know. I
- 28:42Speaker 1: don't know. So here's the thing. This is what I
- 28:44Speaker 1: don't know. Is he physically strong enough big enough? Sure one,
- 28:50Speaker 1: does he want to play guard? He might be if
- 28:53Speaker 1: you don't have any options, you do. But Pete, you
- 28:56Speaker 1: know this is well, if the Jaguars cut Camerabinson today,
- 28:59Speaker 1: there'll be ten teams signing him, trying to sign him
- 29:02Speaker 1: because of the lack of offensive alignment in this league. True,
- 29:08Speaker 1: and so he might say, I'm not playing guard. Someone
- 29:11Speaker 1: else will let me play tackle and pay me as
- 29:12Speaker 1: a tackle. What if he could be a good guard,
- 29:17Speaker 1: and I don't know that. I mean, you know better
- 29:19Speaker 1: than you've never seen him line up and guard. But
- 29:22Speaker 1: now you know what it takes to be a guard.
- 29:24Speaker 1: Does he have the tool set to be a guard?
- 29:28Speaker 1: That's something you don't know until you do it in
- 29:30Speaker 1: some levels, because you need to know can he handle
- 29:32Speaker 1: the close combat, the close uh close combat, the you
- 29:36Speaker 1: know the you know it's happens quicker, you know they're
- 29:39Speaker 1: on top of you. It's a different it's a different position.
- 29:43Speaker 1: But like some of the best guards in this league
- 29:46Speaker 1: today are former tackles. So I have to Jack Martin
- 29:52Speaker 1: was a was a tackle. Marcia Yonda was a tackle
- 29:56Speaker 1: Collegio Assembly. I know he's not one of the best
- 29:58Speaker 1: card but he was when he was good. He was
- 30:00Speaker 1: he was a former tackle. I agree with that, But Pete,
- 30:03Speaker 1: they also are does he have the lower body strength
- 30:07Speaker 1: to be a guard? Right? Well? That see you would
- 30:10Speaker 1: know that better. Do you think he does. I'm I'm
- 30:14Speaker 1: on the fence right now, I really am, and I'm
- 30:15Speaker 1: not trying to avoid it. I'm just not sure. Like
- 30:18Speaker 1: Ben Coleman played guard next to you, he was a
- 30:20Speaker 1: tackle at one point. Yeah, but he did. He made
- 30:26Speaker 1: a nice transition to guard right. He did a very
- 30:29Speaker 1: good job. Yeah, he had a big lower he was
- 30:32Speaker 1: strong in the lower box. I'll say this, I would
- 30:36Speaker 1: probably getting I'd be probably getting will rich and some
- 30:38Speaker 1: reps at left tackle. I know I would in the
- 30:42Speaker 1: off season. He clearly played better than what Camps played
- 30:46Speaker 1: at left tack when he was there. I would definitely
- 30:48Speaker 1: get him some reps at left tackle. Um, but you,
- 30:52Speaker 1: I mean, but JP makes a great question. I mean
- 30:56Speaker 1: a great point. I mean, you look at the roster
- 30:57Speaker 1: and there's you know, when you can go do the
- 30:59Speaker 1: same thing on the defensive side. But a lot of
- 31:01Speaker 1: it is who's making those decisions? Is it Tom? Is
- 31:07Speaker 1: it Dave? Is it Doug? Or is there is there
- 31:09Speaker 1: new pieces at all? Three? Is it new pieces in
- 31:12Speaker 1: a couple? Come, Tony, you know it's gonna be new
- 31:15Speaker 1: pieces across the board. Pete, I don't know anything right now.
- 31:19Speaker 1: I really don't have a common sense is that okay?
- 31:23Speaker 1: And I can't argue with that. The way it's going,
- 31:25Speaker 1: that's fair. But so then you sit here and you
- 31:29Speaker 1: look at the let's put the cellion to the GM spot.
- 31:33Speaker 1: Oh gosh, he would love that. Not on the ring, Tony, Okay,
- 31:42Speaker 1: put you in a GM spot. Is Cam Robinson? You're
- 31:44Speaker 1: starting left tackle when you open the season next year,
- 31:47Speaker 1: Tony ball GM. Are you looking for replace? I'm looking
- 31:51Speaker 1: for someone to compete with him at that job based
- 31:53Speaker 1: on what I've seen this year? Okay? Is Andrew Norwill
- 31:57Speaker 1: coming back? If you could say five million dollars by them? Go?
- 32:00Speaker 1: I mean who? Well? I mean right now, I have
- 32:02Speaker 1: no one else in the roster. So it depends on
- 32:04Speaker 1: whether how the draft plays out in all the different
- 32:06Speaker 1: other areas I have to fill. So I don't know,
- 32:10Speaker 1: and Lender at his bloated salary, he comes back or
- 32:13Speaker 1: you try and get him to knock it down. Uh, No,
- 32:17Speaker 1: I think he's coming back. He can't change everyone out.
- 32:20Speaker 1: I mean you can't. Just you can't make these sold
- 32:23Speaker 1: so changes like that. No, I Lender is my starting center.
- 32:28Speaker 1: Is there anybody behind other than Richardson who's on this
- 32:32Speaker 1: roster that can play that developed and grow and becomes
- 32:36Speaker 1: something at the line. I mean Tyler Shatley is your
- 32:40Speaker 1: swing guy. That's what he is. I don't I don't
- 32:42Speaker 1: see him coming in as a starting No, he's nothing.
- 32:45Speaker 1: He's coming in short spells for a few weeks started
- 32:47Speaker 1: that he's smart. Guys you want me, I have not
- 32:50Speaker 1: seen enough of Brandon Thomas. I don't know if he
- 32:51Speaker 1: moves well enough. Um, and those are the only two
- 32:55Speaker 1: other guys besides Will Richardson or in a bay and
- 32:58Speaker 1: I don't think a boy. He's the your left tackle,
- 33:03Speaker 1: so he's to fill in tight end? Yeah, he's the extra. Well,
- 33:09Speaker 1: we don't have the problem is you. I mean you
- 33:11Speaker 1: gotta address tight end. I mean you need probably two
- 33:16Speaker 1: tight ends. You need someone to step up. You have
- 33:20Speaker 1: no playmakers at the tight end. I mean Nicole Leary.
- 33:24Speaker 1: And I'm not saying I mean Nico Leary. I'm not
- 33:26Speaker 1: sure why we didn't get here earlier. He's literally your
- 33:29Speaker 1: best tight end on the roster than you can play fullback.
- 33:34Speaker 1: He's a move guy, but I mean he's not he's
- 33:37Speaker 1: not a playmaker. He's a good soul. He's a good
- 33:41Speaker 1: in fairness to them about the tight end position. It
- 33:43Speaker 1: is a bad position in the NFL. Right now, he
- 33:47Speaker 1: just is. I mean you go across the board. Now
- 33:52Speaker 1: Baltimore has three of them, but most teams struggle to
- 33:57Speaker 1: find one Tony. It's a bad position. But the Cowboys
- 34:01Speaker 1: they brought Jason Wittnett in the booths. Right. Yeah, but
- 34:05Speaker 1: you have if you if Landard for Nette is gonna
- 34:09Speaker 1: be your back, you have to have big physical tight ends.
- 34:13Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. And what do you want to
- 34:17Speaker 1: be on offense? Do you want to be a physical team?
- 34:21Speaker 1: Get the personal We don't have big physical tight ends,
- 34:24Speaker 1: but they want to be, just like it was, just
- 34:26Speaker 1: why Nick Boyle in Baltimore is so valuable because he
- 34:29Speaker 1: can block. Let's come back, um a little more on
- 34:33Speaker 1: this topic ahead. We'll get back to the quarterback decision
- 34:36Speaker 1: as well. We do just skip talk top. We'll forget it. Well,
- 34:41Speaker 1: we won't forget it. We can come that. Do that
- 34:43Speaker 1: when you come back, do whatever you want, because you
- 34:45Speaker 1: just lied to everyone listening. You said we were talking defense,
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- 38:26Speaker 1: though you know something been farmed for for a long time.
- 38:29Speaker 1: Coach Brown came in and told me and Nick um
- 38:31Speaker 1: situation and we both talked about it. Um you know,
- 38:35Speaker 1: I agree that we're gonna do a thing again to
- 38:36Speaker 1: get us back in again, and you just try to
- 38:38Speaker 1: get loose, um, you know, try to take completions early,
- 38:40Speaker 1: getting the flow of the game. UM. I thought we
- 38:43Speaker 1: did a decent job of that. Gardner mints you the
- 38:46Speaker 1: second Jaguar's quarterback, the starter this week against the Los
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- 38:54Speaker 1: Tony was Elly Pete Priscoe. Yeah, he came in at halftime,
- 38:59Speaker 1: So it's his job. It's his job that way. Yes,
- 39:02Speaker 1: Doug announced that today. No, no, not just for this week.
- 39:06Speaker 1: It's his job unless he plays well. I don't know.
- 39:11Speaker 1: He didn't come out and say, hey, it's his job
- 39:13Speaker 1: for the whole season. He was asked specifically about that.
- 39:15Speaker 1: He didn't really go there. But I don't think you
- 39:17Speaker 1: go back unless Gardner Mitchew gets hurt or throws like
- 39:20Speaker 1: eight picks. I don't think you go back to nick
- 39:24Speaker 1: Folds this season, in my opinion. What's the old saying.
- 39:28Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to put the toothpaste back in
- 39:30Speaker 1: the tube. I mean you you you bench falls and like,
- 39:35Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna go back and forth. Doesn't
- 39:37Speaker 1: work that way. Maron said today on the conference call
- 39:40Speaker 1: that the mobility was really a big reason why. So
- 39:44Speaker 1: that's really it's gotta be a shot of the offensive
- 39:47Speaker 1: line and how they play. Why is that a shot
- 39:48Speaker 1: at the offensive line? How is it not? How is
- 39:54Speaker 1: it not? Well? Why because a lot of people will
- 39:59Speaker 1: tell you that mobile quarterbacks you need mobility in today's
- 40:02Speaker 1: NFL to play. And then if you look at most
- 40:05Speaker 1: of the teams that are having success, they have an athletic,
- 40:08Speaker 1: mobile quarterback. Let's just go through the teams. Seattle, great,
- 40:16Speaker 1: ben offensive line, Baltimore, Baltimore, Buffalo, good offensive line in Baltimore, Yeah,
- 40:23Speaker 1: Buffalo athletic quarterback uh, San Francisco, Jimmy geez, he's can
- 40:29Speaker 1: move though. Candy Pete, Yeah a little bit. Line is
- 40:33Speaker 1: pretty good though. When he when they got the two
- 40:35Speaker 1: tackles healthy, I mean, Dallas, Dak Prescott athletic, athletic. I'm
- 40:43Speaker 1: just saying, but there's a lot of to just say.
- 40:45Speaker 1: It's the reason that they like his mobility. Like any
- 40:50Speaker 1: quarterback that has mobility, whether you have a good or
- 40:52Speaker 1: bad offensive line, is gonna pu an extra pressure on
- 40:54Speaker 1: the defense. Well, how about just saying he's played better.
- 40:58Speaker 1: The guy played awful for time. Well, that's anybody I
- 41:02Speaker 1: wouldn't have said. It's the mobility thing. I'd take. We're
- 41:05Speaker 1: playing Gardener because he's playing better. We feel like he
- 41:08Speaker 1: gives us the best yet to win. That's it. Here's
- 41:11Speaker 1: for you. Sell. When Nick Foles ever be the starting
- 41:15Speaker 1: quarterback in Jacksonville, I don't know. You know, no, what
- 41:22Speaker 1: if Gardner gets hurt? No? No, no, aside from injury,
- 41:26Speaker 1: will he win the job back? Um this year or
- 41:30Speaker 1: not this year? No? So we can hear more talk
- 41:32Speaker 1: about culture building. They built the culture all right? Why
- 41:36Speaker 1: I mean, why are you taking shots at him now
- 41:39Speaker 1: about the culture thing? Because I didn't like it last
- 41:42Speaker 1: week and I still don't like it. It's just, I mean,
- 41:46Speaker 1: the guy's down. I mean, do we have to kick
- 41:47Speaker 1: him when he's Downpete, I mean, he just got fifty
- 41:50Speaker 1: million dollars. Make me get down like that? Well's to see.
- 41:54Speaker 1: But that's the difference between you and other people. It's
- 41:57Speaker 1: not all about the money. I mean, your pride is
- 41:59Speaker 1: a professional you want to be good at your craft,
- 42:01Speaker 1: you want to do a good job. It's not just
- 42:02Speaker 1: about the money. Beat. I mean, I'm sure, I'm not.
- 42:05Speaker 1: I guarantee you. Nick Foles is sitting there saying, screw it,
- 42:09Speaker 1: I got fifty million dollars. I don't care. That's like
- 42:13Speaker 1: no player says that it does soften the little No,
- 42:16Speaker 1: it doesn't. Trust me, it does not, it does. It's
- 42:20Speaker 1: professional football. It is about the money. No, it's I mean,
- 42:24Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I disagree. Would he
- 42:26Speaker 1: rather be making fifteen million dollars less and playing somewhere
- 42:31Speaker 1: that that's a dumb question. It's not either if he
- 42:38Speaker 1: was making what is making wrong? I'm saying right now
- 42:42Speaker 1: today the money isn't making him feel any better. I'm
- 42:48Speaker 1: not saying over the big I'm not. I'm not saying.
- 42:50Speaker 1: You know, I'm not saying you step away from it
- 42:52Speaker 1: and you go down the road, you know, a year
- 42:55Speaker 1: or you know, after his career is over. Obviously it
- 42:58Speaker 1: softens the blow right now. Trust me, he's a competitor.
- 43:03Speaker 1: You think he woke up the morning says, who cares,
- 43:06Speaker 1: I got fifty million dollars, Well, that's a Pete Prisco thing.
- 43:09Speaker 1: That's a that's stupid. Go get about a million dollars
- 43:15Speaker 1: worth of ones and fill your room with it and
- 43:17Speaker 1: go dive into it for a while and feel a
- 43:20Speaker 1: lot better. Well, like, listen, I agree. Over time obviously
- 43:25Speaker 1: the softens the blow and you look back and say,
- 43:26Speaker 1: at least I got the money. I agree with that.
- 43:28Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be I mean stupid. I'm saying today
- 43:33Speaker 1: and in the near future. It hurts because you have pride.
- 43:36Speaker 1: You were brought here to do a job. I'll give
- 43:40Speaker 1: you a perfect example. I got went to the Texans,
- 43:42Speaker 1: got paid back then good money, and I could not
- 43:46Speaker 1: play because of injury. I was bummed because I know,
- 43:50Speaker 1: hold on, no but here, but you should say, well,
- 43:53Speaker 1: you got the money. You should soften the blow and
- 43:56Speaker 1: soften any blow. Is miserable because you want to compete.
- 44:00Speaker 1: That's why you're there. That's what made you get to
- 44:02Speaker 1: the level. I know, I know you. You wouldn't have
- 44:04Speaker 1: taken half that money to be able to compete. Yes,
- 44:07Speaker 1: if if, if someone has said, listen, you're gonna make
- 44:12Speaker 1: half as much money this year, but you're gonna able
- 44:14Speaker 1: to compete and continue to play. Done? Done? You kidding me?
- 44:21Speaker 1: Maybe the old the oldest sell he might have done
- 44:23Speaker 1: that new but selly No way, No, I'm just done
- 44:26Speaker 1: over the long haul, get right, though, Tony softens the blow. No,
- 44:32Speaker 1: not today, it doesn't not today. Yeah, I'm with you
- 44:35Speaker 1: on that, but I'm not m I'm not a guy
- 44:41Speaker 1: when he's down, Tony. But when you signed that contract
- 44:43Speaker 1: to become the guy and you get benched, that's the
- 44:47Speaker 1: reality of it. The guy's gonna take heat, and he
- 44:49Speaker 1: should take the heat. I'm fine take the heat about
- 44:52Speaker 1: how he's played. I'll take I'll bring the heat. He
- 44:54Speaker 1: didn't play well. But like for you to bring up
- 44:56Speaker 1: this culture nonsense, and I read all these Twitter people
- 44:58Speaker 1: taking shots at the culture. What does that have to
- 45:00Speaker 1: do with? Nobody wants to hear that after care, it
- 45:04Speaker 1: doesn't matter, is my point. That does not matter. Wins
- 45:08Speaker 1: and losses, performing, that's all that matters. So let's focus
- 45:12Speaker 1: on that for the culture comment. But we're gonna give
- 45:17Speaker 1: him a F minus for the way you play again, Sure,
- 45:22Speaker 1: if that's how you want to do it, fine for him.
- 45:26Speaker 1: We'll give him an A plus for how he gotta
- 45:28Speaker 1: god well. For the record, Doug Brown was asked if
- 45:34Speaker 1: minshe will start for the remainder of the season in
- 45:36Speaker 1: the conference call today. He said, quote, we're planning on
- 45:39Speaker 1: him playing. Yeah, end quote, that was the yeast. So
- 45:43Speaker 1: he's the starters I misspoke earlier. Yes, let's come back
- 45:47Speaker 1: in a moment. We got a specially half studio. Yes,
- 45:50Speaker 1: special guest Marcus Pollard will join us here, he'll join us.
- 45:56Speaker 1: There's an event coming up, a flag football camp. Is
- 45:59Speaker 1: he gonna play the right in for us? We'll find
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- 49:29Speaker 1: Prisco and special guest in studio with this Marcus Pollard,
- 49:34Speaker 1: former NFL tight end and director of player Development. Hi, Marcus,
- 49:39Speaker 1: and before we go any further? Hold on, hold on,
- 49:42Speaker 1: hold on, before we go? Wait? Wait, no, wait, wait?
- 49:45Speaker 1: Can I say it on the show? I got my
- 49:47Speaker 1: son just say, just holding it down? Something down? Let go?
- 49:54Speaker 1: Is pizza with us? Or did he take a break? Yeah,
- 49:56Speaker 1: I'm here, Okay, So Pete, Just so you don't think
- 49:58Speaker 1: it's me who says that there's no soft landing because
- 50:01Speaker 1: of the money today. For Nick Foles, we were talking
- 50:05Speaker 1: in uh, who are you? Who are you talking to me?
- 50:07Speaker 1: You were talking there as a player, Marcus. Does the
- 50:12Speaker 1: money mean anything today for Nick Foles? That does not. Uh.
- 50:16Speaker 1: For a guy that loves to compete as well as
- 50:18Speaker 1: I've gotten to know Nick, Nick will probably give you
- 50:21Speaker 1: fifty million dollars back to have success and to play
- 50:24Speaker 1: in a winning culture. I don't know if people keep
- 50:26Speaker 1: talking about this culture, but for Nick it means everything
- 50:29Speaker 1: to him, and so he give it back in our Heartbeatpete,
- 50:32Speaker 1: I hear you. But as Tony said, the two of
- 50:36Speaker 1: us spent time in that locker room and it's got
- 50:38Speaker 1: paid an NFL contract, and I promise you, buddy will
- 50:41Speaker 1: give that money back to be successful on that field,
- 50:44Speaker 1: no question if they're willing to give it to him,
- 50:49Speaker 1: but him giving it back don't make him have better
- 50:52Speaker 1: success on sign or the past three games either, So
- 50:54Speaker 1: giving it back as a new point. My point is
- 50:56Speaker 1: that if he could give it back, and you could
- 50:58Speaker 1: look into a crystal ball, wave a magic wand and
- 51:01Speaker 1: give the money back and him per have success and
- 51:03Speaker 1: have his teammates have success, he'd do it. I know him.
- 51:06Speaker 1: That will now long term, Pete. Yeah, one day you'll
- 51:09Speaker 1: look back and say, well I got fifty billion bucks,
- 51:11Speaker 1: my family set for generations and you move on with life.
- 51:15Speaker 1: But in the midst, when you're a competitor, man, all
- 51:18Speaker 1: you want to do is play and win. That's all
- 51:21Speaker 1: you want to do. Well, I mean, look, I get it.
- 51:26Speaker 1: You're a competitor. You want to play. Of course you
- 51:28Speaker 1: want to play. But like two j P said, it
- 51:30Speaker 1: softens the blow. You're wrong, Okay, this season it will
- 51:39Speaker 1: not soften the blow. This year, it will not soften it. Marcus.
- 51:44Speaker 1: So you're here to promote an event coming up. Thank
- 51:46Speaker 1: you for coming in absolute coming up the Gatorade Junior
- 51:49Speaker 1: Training Camp Girls Flag football coming up on yes on
- 51:55Speaker 1: the seventheh that's a Tuesday, and and kids should be
- 51:57Speaker 1: out of school. So we're looking forward to the first
- 51:59Speaker 1: time event like this be myself from you football people
- 52:02Speaker 1: will have some high school coaches there as well as
- 52:04Speaker 1: some of our players are coming out to help these
- 52:06Speaker 1: girls work on their skill set because I understand that
- 52:09Speaker 1: this girls flag it's probably the fastest growing sports in
- 52:14Speaker 1: high school and so these girls are doing these games
- 52:17Speaker 1: that they have during the spring, and we thought what
- 52:20Speaker 1: a great opportunity to teach them about playing high school
- 52:25Speaker 1: girls and we would like for those girls to be
- 52:28Speaker 1: They don't have to be, but we would like for
- 52:30Speaker 1: them to to be on a team that has a
- 52:32Speaker 1: girls team or trying out or trying out for the team.
- 52:36Speaker 1: This is the skills development training. What we're doing for
- 52:39Speaker 1: these girls. And what a great opportunity knowledge, So skills
- 52:45Speaker 1: can't led by you. Some players coming out and some
- 52:48Speaker 1: special guest coaches as well. Open to the first one right, yes,
- 52:52Speaker 1: first one hundred and the deadline will give you all
- 52:54Speaker 1: the way up to December six. So there are only
- 52:57Speaker 1: a hunter spots. So if you want to come, go
- 53:00Speaker 1: now to yeah, Jaguars dot com slash Prep. There you go,
- 53:05Speaker 1: that'll show you all. That'll show you all the events
- 53:08Speaker 1: that are available, and then you click on the Girl's
- 53:11Speaker 1: Flag event. It'll take you to that event. You can
- 53:14Speaker 1: register there and go online. So so cool. I've just
- 53:17Speaker 1: one recommendation as you're going out and promoting this, No
- 53:20Speaker 1: the you r L people ask you to get there.
- 53:24Speaker 1: I thought made it worked together. We know the law
- 53:31Speaker 1: every Sunday. But when he when he's not here, I
- 53:34Speaker 1: would have knew it, you know, I had already send
- 53:36Speaker 1: the information. Aready had already. That's cool though, I think
- 53:40Speaker 1: it's great. Let's have three daughters, Tony, I've not been invited. Okay, um, yes, skills,
- 53:51Speaker 1: big skill though. I played quarterback and yeah played tight
- 53:55Speaker 1: end and had great feat though oh yeah, believe me,
- 53:58Speaker 1: I know I've had a few times not on the
- 54:01Speaker 1: feel at the same time, but um yeah, I think
- 54:04Speaker 1: it's great, very cool doing it for the for the
- 54:07Speaker 1: ladies and three girls who love competing. None of them
- 54:10Speaker 1: played flag football. I'm gonna ask them why not. It's
- 54:13Speaker 1: a good question, tell them come out well, but they don't.
- 54:16Speaker 1: They're not a team, so they wouldn't call all right,
- 54:19Speaker 1: you don't have to be on a team. We would
- 54:20Speaker 1: like for them to be on a team so they
- 54:21Speaker 1: can take the training and do right. But we want
- 54:25Speaker 1: girls to get involved in football absolutely else. I think
- 54:28Speaker 1: it's a great way to con so all the other
- 54:31Speaker 1: things that we take from learning football, we could think
- 54:33Speaker 1: the girls can do the same thing. Ascap Oh absolutely.
- 54:35Speaker 1: The cool thing for it is is like my girls
- 54:38Speaker 1: are huge football fans, Like they go to every game,
- 54:40Speaker 1: they watch it, they go watch their brothers play. I mean,
- 54:43Speaker 1: they love it. They love watching football, and so I'd
- 54:47Speaker 1: imagine for them, even though they're not a team, but
- 54:49Speaker 1: to go learn more about the games. So because I
- 54:52Speaker 1: always think when you know something or a sport, whatever
- 54:55Speaker 1: it is, but the more you know about the more
- 54:57Speaker 1: enjoyable it is to watch because you kind of have right.
- 55:00Speaker 1: So it's a what a cool event like hockey. I can't.
- 55:02Speaker 1: I can't do hockey because I don't understand it. But
- 55:04Speaker 1: like you said, if you understand the sport, more likely
- 55:07Speaker 1: to watching and participating. Absolutely very cool. Coming up at
- 55:10Speaker 1: dream Finders Homes flex Field at Daily's Place Tuesday, December seventeen,
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- 55:18Speaker 1: Prep take notes on that. Yeah, and that you can
- 55:22Speaker 1: go on there and see all the list of the
- 55:23Speaker 1: events clicking on the Jaguars, the Gatorad Junior Training Camp
- 55:27Speaker 1: event girls Flag football and you can register right there. Marcus,
- 55:31Speaker 1: good stuff, Thank you very much for inside. I love it.
- 55:35Speaker 1: Pete Briscoe will be back in just a moment. Tony
- 55:37Speaker 1: you're I guess you'll be back. I'll be back. Best
- 55:39Speaker 1: segment we've had because Pete didn't say much. I was
- 55:42Speaker 1: on it though, you just blocked me out. Yeah, that's
- 55:45Speaker 1: why it was so good. He was an offensive labmen
- 55:47Speaker 1: and blocked you out. No, the best segment we ever
- 55:50Speaker 1: had was when we did two Hours when you were
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- 1:00:01Speaker 1: right tackle gets beaten, the strip sack, you know. In
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- 1:00:08Speaker 1: he saw me coming from the background. Welcome back, Jaguars
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: Happy Hour, second hour of the program. That's Ted Coach
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: Dug Maroon Yesterday j P. Shadrick Tony WASSELLI Pete Prisco
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: your social media questions coming up. We'll go around then
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: FC South and around the NFL in Week thirteen. Nice
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: to see, by the way, nice to see Basselli and
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: get another former player to go after me and JP.
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: You sit on the sideline after saying that, you don't
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: even defend me. What do you mean? I was right
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: here the whole time. Yeah, he sat on the sideline.
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: Pete was right here. What do you want me to say? Pete?
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: You used my line the whole segment. What are you
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: talking about? You didn't You didn't, You didn't say anymore.
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: You just just sat there and let me take it.
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: It was unbelievable, Pete. You should know this by talking.
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: You should know this. Used my line the whole segment.
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: You should know this by now. About JP, he will
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: run for her at the first sign of trouble. He alright.
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: He's not gonna get the fox sold to anybody. He
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: is all about protection and you know, Switzerland, Switzerland, trying
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: to keep himself out of any harm's way. He's not
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: he's not. He's not a guy who's gonna go to
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: war with you. He's not a warrior. But by the way, Tony,
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: we were talking about folds and what the options could
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: be for folds. Yeah, you could, you could trade him.
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: But who's gonna take on that contract? Nobody? You could
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: beg somebody to do an Oswiler like deal where you
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: give him a draft pick to take him. And how
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: when you trade, does his entire cap money go with him,
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: but you take you keep some of the cap. Right?
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: And then here's the other problem in the scenario this year,
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: from what I understand, you can't with the last year
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: the CBN unless they get a new cb A done.
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: You can't designate post June trade or cut, which means
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: you can't split the money. So if you traded him,
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: you're still taking a huge cap it off. I would
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: not be surprised if they don't get to see the
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: cb A something done here pretty quick. Oh, I agree.
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: I think it's gonna get done. Seven, they're gonna have
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: seventeen games. They're gonna get it done. They'll they'll figure
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: that out and the season is gonna go into February
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: and two buys. Yeah, I think that gets done. It's
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: getting done. But but Tony is still gonna be tough
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: to deal him, and or you know, can you keep
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: a guy? This is a legitimate question. Can you keep
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: a guy who's making twenty two million? Dollars on your
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: roster as a backup quarterback. Yes or not? Yes you can.
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: I mean you have no choice, pet so yes, you've
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: already paid the money. It's gone, it's done, it's guaranteed.
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: It's on the books. So yeah, I mean what else
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: you gonna do? And why not? And if you're gonna
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: go with Minshew, he's your starter. If that's how it
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: plays out and he wins the job, and we still
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: have an offseason. You have training camp in preseason, so
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: much stuff, and then you asked Nick Foles to be
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: Nick Foles and what he's always done if you need him,
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: come off the bench and play great again. Back to
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: what we had this conversation about the offensive line earlier.
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: It also depends on who's making this decision. You don't
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: know who that's gonna be. I don't think it matters
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: they inherit the money issues Also, like just because of
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: new GM or new whoever comes in, that doesn't mean like,
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: oh yeah, what you do over on this one. I
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: mean it's on the books. In business, you'd call this
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: a sunk cost, like it's an asset that you own
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: that you've already paid for and you're not getting anything.
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: It is what it is. So you stop looking behind
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: and focusing on the mistake or what has happened. You say,
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: we're moving forward. Now it's on our books. Let's make
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: the best of it. That's all you can do. H So,
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: as of everything that's played out right now, it's a
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: bad signing. There's no other way to describe it. It's
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: hard for me to think of any other way too
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: put position the situation. I think that's right. Oh right,
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: it's a bad hit to an organization, really is? How
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: about um a little positivity in this when Gardener, When
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: Gardner came into the game yesterday, there was a little life.
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: They moved the ball, you had to let a couple
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: of scoring drives. They were down inside the to another
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: time and through an interception the red zone issues, Right,
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: that's been a theme this year. Is that a real
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: thing because of Minshew or is this a change of
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: you know what is run it once when they were
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: down there? Uh? Yes, I believe so. Is it just
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: the Earth Agency thing at that point in the game.
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I think his ability to extend plays
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: and the off schedule play gives you something extra. It
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: really does. Did. Indeed, he drop a touchdown pass though
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: that was it was a tough catch, and I watched
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: the film, it almost looks like he could have run
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: through better. And mint she was leading him because where
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: MITI wants to put that ball on that that clear
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: out route, you have to put it in the body
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: up into the body of the receiver because it's gonna
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: be a tough throw in traffic. If you put it
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: away from him, too many bad things can happen. He
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: led him a little bit, so d D had to
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: reach out. He got two hands on it, but then
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: it deflected up. But it almost looked like on the
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: film that there was a hesitation by d D and
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: he didn't run through it. And so it's just a
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: bad play all around. Interesting. You know what we promised
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: defensive talk earlier. We didn't quite get to that. Let's
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: touch on it now. Jaguars defense in this game really
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: in the second half turned things on. They slow down
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: this Tampa Bay offense in that second half. Donald Payne
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: had to step in his He had played ten snaps
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: on defense in his career, and I think he had
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: when he had thirteen tackles yesterday. Starting at middle linebacker.
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: Andrew wingered had seven tackles in a sack in place
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: of Ronnie Harrison yesterday. You're getting deep down the depth
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: chart here. Of course, guys that Donald Payne was on
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: the street this year and he started at middle linebacker. Now,
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: because it come of tells you how how deep they
- 1:06:39Speaker 1: have to go down the list right now? On defense,
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: it's not the ideal situation, but there were some high
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: points on defense yesterday. We'll go through this. Look at
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: the starting eleven yesterday. On defense, you having Gockway, third
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: round pick, Abray Jones, undrafted undrafted, David Brant first round
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: plays Campbell the first rounder, undrafted, second rounder, second rounder.
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: But you know Quincy Williams, rookie, third rounder, uh, Donald Payne,
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: undrafted free agent, William Jacobs, the seventh rounder, Trey Herndon,
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: undrafted free agent, Jared Wilson, undrafted free agent, um Andrew Wingard,
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: uh undrafted free agent, a j Boy undrafted free agent,
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: but a free agent. To us, that is remarkable. Do
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: you think about that usually the amount of undrafted I
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: mean that. I mean, like I was looking at the
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: run at the starting lineup, he said, I'm like, wow,
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: the only first round pick on the entire side of
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: the ball is David Bryant and d J. Hayden when
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: he comes to the nickel correct and Josh Allen. Josh Allen,
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: you know, is a rotational player, but the back half
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: is all undrafted. With the starting four, well, two of
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: the first round pick defenders are playing for the Rams
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: right now, we just I mean in in for that group,
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: I give, I give great job play their tail off.
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: I thought Todd washers defense staff did a great job,
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: put them good positions, and I thought that unit. You know,
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: if you look at it the grades and tell me
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: you agree with these guys grades if they played as well.
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: One second before we do that, the Buccaneers were averaging
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: yeah and a half points a game. They were third
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: third and scoring fourth in passing, and if you look
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: at what they did, they did a great job. They
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: gave up uh eighteen points and really slowed down Jamis
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: Winston through the air. I thought I thought they played good.
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: All right, let's go through. Tell me if you thought
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: this guy played good or not, I'll tell you how
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: they graded him. Abrey Jones, mhm uh didn't stand out solid,
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: not great, Nope, big great, Tavin Bryant, Taven Bryant probably
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: had his best game of the year, I thought exactly.
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: They gave him good grades on their Clays Campbell. He
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: made some really good tackles for a loss. You know, Claisses,
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: but Clays right now. Man, the last number of weeks,
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: he's been on the ground a lot and uh, something
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: we hadn't seen from him in the past. Why is
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: that the only things? A lot of snaps this year,
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: and he's way too many snaps were a player at
- 1:09:35Speaker 1: his age as well. I don't think they want to
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: play snaps yesterday too much. Monique and I would say
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: he didn't really flash, didn't do a lot average, bad, great, Yeah,
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: Quincy Williams, he probably had his best game as well.
- 1:09:55Speaker 1: Ye good, you're good today. Tony all Pain, outside of
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: two plays, played good football the game. Bad grade coverage, okay,
- 1:10:07Speaker 1: but he played. He had like thirteen tackles. He had
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: two bad plays. On the touchdown he was in the
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: wrong gap. Um, so I would probably disagree with him
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: on that one. Trey Herndon, Um nice. Just they gave
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: a good grade and run defense and a bad grade
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: in the pass game. Not awful grade, but ok yeah,
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: I just say, okay, Jared Wilson, Okay, that's your your
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: spot on wind guard. Uh. For what he was asked
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: to do first time starting, I'd give him like he
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: played one Okay, yeah, okay, they gave it. Okay, great a.
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: J boy A got pained for for his past coverage. Yeah,
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: he did not play fast yesterday, so I would just say, okay,
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: Josh Allen gave a good grade and run defense bad grade.
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: As a pass rusher, did not get much pressure. It
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: had a sack, but it was a clean up sack.
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: He's very good against Ranni's physical, tough, and everybody else
- 1:11:07Speaker 1: was just everybody else. So Cal Davis, by the way,
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: played tony one snaps yesterday. Question will be when will
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: Miles Jack get back. I would not be surprised if
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: we do not see Myles Jack the rest of the year. Really,
- 1:11:24Speaker 1: that needs bad. I don't know how bad it is,
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: but if it's even if he's not gonna be back
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: at least by after the Chargers game, I'd put him
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: in I R Well, if you don't see Myles Jack
- 1:11:40Speaker 1: for the rest of the year, that means you haven't
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: seen him all year. I mean, let's be real, he's
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: gonna be one of the major Look, I love the kid.
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: He's got to be considered one of the major disappointments
- 1:11:50Speaker 1: of the season. It'll be interesting what they do. Um,
- 1:11:55Speaker 1: because I remember, like the start of the year on
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: this show, we were talking about him being possibility of
- 1:12:00Speaker 1: being one of the great players on defense in the
- 1:12:02Speaker 1: league this year. We were hoping because we didn't see
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: it the year before now and um, we thought that
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: this was an important year from to take the step
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: he signed the deal. Um. To me, I really like
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: Miles a lot. He looks he looks a little heavy.
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: To me, he does look really heavy. He does not
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: look very instinctual at the middle linebacker position. And maybe
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: I mean, he's never played well, but maybe you need
- 1:12:28Speaker 1: to find a middle linebacker, move him to will and
- 1:12:30Speaker 1: let you know, we're you know, it's not quite as
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: cluttered in the middle, and let him kind of use
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: that athletic ability a little bit more. Somebody. But you know,
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: they when they're gonna do staff in here, they might
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: have a team and look at in Gockway and Josh
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: Allen and say, you know what, we're gonna have them
- 1:12:46Speaker 1: standing up and we're gonna go to a different system
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: and The problem with that is where does Miles fit
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: that kind of system. You're talking about three four? But
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: Tampa Bay plays at three four with technically with David
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: and he's not a big Well they really they really
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: play a hybrid. Yeah, that's what everybody's playing now anyways, right,
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: they really play a hybrid. Well, Steelers pretty they still
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: play a base three four. There's a handful of teams
- 1:13:11Speaker 1: they do. But your Miles is here. He's just signed
- 1:13:15Speaker 1: that contract extension. Miles not going anywhere. He can't go anywhere. No,
- 1:13:19Speaker 1: he can't. He's on the roster. But I wouldn't be surprised.
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: You know, the knee injury, and if I'm not mistaken,
- 1:13:28Speaker 1: it's the same knee had issues coming out of college,
- 1:13:31Speaker 1: the right knee, and um, now I don't know anything.
- 1:13:38Speaker 1: So maybe it's not as bad as we know that.
- 1:13:40Speaker 1: I mean, well, thank you. Um maybe it's not that bad.
- 1:13:43Speaker 1: And if you can play this week, great, then obviously
- 1:13:45Speaker 1: you don't put him my R. But if he's gonna
- 1:13:46Speaker 1: miss a couple of weeks this late in the season,
- 1:13:48Speaker 1: I think you just you put him on the IR
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: for the year. Tony, here's a question for you on
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. How many guys who
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: are starting right now or projected starters will count Jack
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: will be starting on opening day next year? Well, I mean,
- 1:14:04Speaker 1: if you look at it, Lasbie, Lassbie here, Well, that's
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: gonna be a money issue of how much money does
- 1:14:12Speaker 1: Class want to make for the right price. I would like,
- 1:14:15Speaker 1: I would want Class back, But he has to be
- 1:14:18Speaker 1: a rotational player. He has to be a guy who's
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: playing twenty five snaps. But if you're hamming that your option,
- 1:14:24Speaker 1: don't you want to go play on a team that
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: has a chance to win? Sure? And that's what I'm saying.
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: You have to have that conversation with him, and I
- 1:14:32Speaker 1: think you he's earned the right with what he has
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: done here and the type of guys you sit him down,
- 1:14:37Speaker 1: say Class, this is where we see you, and this
- 1:14:40Speaker 1: is how much we can pay you for that role. Now,
- 1:14:43Speaker 1: if you want to go somewhere else, we understand it.
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: We want you here on that role. You just have
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: a man to man conversation with him. He's a stand
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: up guy. He's been a great player, great individual, and
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: but he can't be playing sixties naps for you too much.
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: M Um, Yeah, you're running out of guys here though,
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: I mean Josh Allen's gonna be a starter. You have
- 1:15:04Speaker 1: a decision to make with in Gockway. I mean, you
- 1:15:08Speaker 1: offered him nineteen million in the off season, didn't want it,
- 1:15:12Speaker 1: uh so he obviously want three. I don't think based
- 1:15:15Speaker 1: on the production this year you can pay him that.
- 1:15:17Speaker 1: This depends again on who's making the call and do
- 1:15:21Speaker 1: you tag him? Depending on what what what are you playing?
- 1:15:24Speaker 1: What kind of defense are you gonna play? Right? We
- 1:15:26Speaker 1: don't know, So you can't okay million dollar base salary
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: next year. There's no way you know you're not gonna
- 1:15:34Speaker 1: pay You cannot pay that. H I mean Tavin Bryant
- 1:15:37Speaker 1: is gonna be on this team. He's gonna be either
- 1:15:39Speaker 1: you're starting three technique and a rotational player at that position.
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: There's there's one for sure. Miles Jack is gonna be back.
- 1:15:47Speaker 1: I mean, Quincy Williams is gonna be back. But you
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: don't know where Miles Jack is gonna play, so you
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: don't know what he's gonna be doing. So there's one
- 1:15:53Speaker 1: for sure. Is David Bryant. Um, Yeah, d J. Hayden.
- 1:15:59Speaker 1: Now Josh Allen. Josh Allen will be starting so that's
- 1:16:02Speaker 1: why I said I already said him d J HAYD.
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: Now I want him as my starting nickel. I think
- 1:16:05Speaker 1: he's a really good player. Some means there's a lot
- 1:16:08Speaker 1: of a lot of holes. What about a j What
- 1:16:12Speaker 1: do you do with him? How much you know him
- 1:16:13Speaker 1: next year? I'll tell you a second. But I mean,
- 1:16:16Speaker 1: that's a that's a lot of money for it for
- 1:16:19Speaker 1: a guy who's been just okay, right, I don't even
- 1:16:24Speaker 1: know what his number is, so it's hard to say.
- 1:16:26Speaker 1: You're about to tell me, and I'll tell you in
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: a second, but Marshel Darius isn't coming back. Uh, that's
- 1:16:33Speaker 1: a twenty three up. I think two million in camp space.
- 1:16:38Speaker 1: That's an easy to say it. So looking up for
- 1:16:42Speaker 1: his contract when I get it, I'll tell you go ahead.
- 1:16:45Speaker 1: That's that's a lot of holes on defense. So that's
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: that's why it goes back to the argument of offense,
- 1:16:50Speaker 1: and everyone's like, we'll get rid of this guy and
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: get rid of this guy. Like wait a second, you're
- 1:16:54Speaker 1: not gonna get away. You're not gonna get rid of
- 1:16:56Speaker 1: solid starters. So this is gonna be a process, is
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: what you're saying. It's a process Okay, a j is
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: scheduled to make thirteen million dollar bass salary and he's
- 1:17:07Speaker 1: got so they could say, uh, eleven million dollars by
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: letting them go. He's gone. Let's come back social media questions.
- 1:17:22Speaker 1: And by the way, he's played better than I expected. Sorry, sorry, JP,
- 1:17:27Speaker 1: back me up. So I had to interrupted yet again.
- 1:17:33Speaker 1: Back in a moment. Social media questions right around the corner.
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- 1:20:44Speaker 1: of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Welcome Back, Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shatterck,
- 1:21:04Speaker 1: Tony Baselli, Pete Prisco. Jags fell to the Buccaneers yesterday.
- 1:21:09Speaker 1: Eleven big changes. Gardner Minshew's now the starting quarterback again.
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: He'll start this week and moving forward after he was
- 1:21:20Speaker 1: put back in the lineup at halftime yesterday. It is
- 1:21:22Speaker 1: time now for social media questions. Tony and Pete's favorite
- 1:21:26Speaker 1: part of this show every single week. We've got a
- 1:21:28Speaker 1: lot today, so let's get right to him. Number one
- 1:21:32Speaker 1: at Jakun Kun one. What is wrong with the goal
- 1:21:36Speaker 1: line offense is a play calling. Oh line, not enough
- 1:21:38Speaker 1: big guys, no fullback? Why don't we use Alan or
- 1:21:41Speaker 1: Tavin as a fullback? That's it? I mean, I got
- 1:21:46Speaker 1: no problem with that. I mean you see a lot
- 1:21:47Speaker 1: of teams doing I mean the Buccaneers used Vita Villa
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: as a fullback. Uh. For the Buccaneers on their goal line. Uh,
- 1:21:57Speaker 1: it's not been good. We've only had three rushing touchdowns
- 1:22:00Speaker 1: on the year. And when you're struggling to run the
- 1:22:04Speaker 1: ball in the tight red zone, it starts with the
- 1:22:07Speaker 1: offensive line, in my opinion, I think, and the tight
- 1:22:11Speaker 1: ends camp block either that's a part of it. But
- 1:22:14Speaker 1: you have no true fullback on the roster. So I
- 1:22:16Speaker 1: think the the the social media questions the fair one.
- 1:22:20Speaker 1: Why not put you know, Tavin Bryan or something like
- 1:22:22Speaker 1: that in there? So and then you have to look
- 1:22:25Speaker 1: at scheme that goes to the schemes. I think it's
- 1:22:27Speaker 1: all the above. That's a lot to decipher. Next question
- 1:22:31Speaker 1: at minor forty nine or nine. Question for Pete. If
- 1:22:35Speaker 1: Tony stuck up for his Hall of Fame candidacy the
- 1:22:37Speaker 1: way he sticks up for Norwell, would he be a
- 1:22:39Speaker 1: Hall of Famer already? Your damn right? He would be. Yes,
- 1:22:48Speaker 1: he's putting he's gonna have Andrew Norwell in the Hall
- 1:22:50Speaker 1: of Fame in about three weeks. I mean, you guys
- 1:22:54Speaker 1: are out of control, out of control. Who's you guys?
- 1:22:57Speaker 1: I'm just reading the questions. By the way, we haven't
- 1:23:00Speaker 1: congratulated Uh. Mr Bisselly on being a finalist again along
- 1:23:04Speaker 1: with Fred Taylor. Yes, semi happy, Yes, yes, happy for
- 1:23:08Speaker 1: both of them. Yeah, that's cool, It's really cool. Fred
- 1:23:11Speaker 1: was fired up over the weekend talking to about it.
- 1:23:13Speaker 1: I texted with him and I know he was thrilled
- 1:23:15Speaker 1: with it. And I know Tony. I talked to you
- 1:23:17Speaker 1: and you are too, And I'm locking it. This is
- 1:23:21Speaker 1: the year. Oh you're locking it. The lock hasn't worked. Well, well,
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: that's for you. That's for you. My lock works. This
- 1:23:29Speaker 1: is the year. I'm locking it. Pete has locked the
- 1:23:33Speaker 1: Hall of Fame for Tony. We can we got a
- 1:23:35Speaker 1: Runway ninety eight and have dinner. That sounds like a plan.
- 1:23:41Speaker 1: I like it, uh. Next social media question at Oh, hey,
- 1:23:46Speaker 1: there's the lock that I don't like. It doesn't make
- 1:23:50Speaker 1: me feel very good because we haven't locked very many
- 1:23:52Speaker 1: good things. Next question at Filthy Film hold on how Pete,
- 1:23:56Speaker 1: how's your lock been this year? Off and on? Not
- 1:23:59Speaker 1: as as yours. Next question, what do you guys think
- 1:24:02Speaker 1: about Prisco going for the Jags GM spot. I mean
- 1:24:05Speaker 1: Mayock did it in Oakland, Prisco, I love this. It's
- 1:24:11Speaker 1: the same question as last week. The answers are smart. Yeah,
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: if they're saying that, do you still want him as
- 1:24:20Speaker 1: your vice gmpte. I already told you I'm not working
- 1:24:23Speaker 1: for Pete. Prisco s sure you are. We make a
- 1:24:26Speaker 1: great team, but silly, Yeah, just have to listen to
- 1:24:31Speaker 1: my final say. And I would do all I wouldn't
- 1:24:33Speaker 1: do all the work if Pete would take all the credit. Yeah,
- 1:24:35Speaker 1: that'd be great. Here here's the plan for next year,
- 1:24:38Speaker 1: as I sit on the new GM, We're all gonna
- 1:24:42Speaker 1: go to Canton and watch Basilli celebrate getting into the hall.
- 1:24:45Speaker 1: To be a fun party. We'll have a big old time.
- 1:24:48Speaker 1: And then and then you watched the whole season as
- 1:24:53Speaker 1: they thank for Trevor, and then they get Trevor Lawrence
- 1:25:04Speaker 1: and everything is rosie for the next decade and a
- 1:25:07Speaker 1: half in Jacksonville. For Trevor. You can trade your two
- 1:25:11Speaker 1: first round picks you haven't move up and get him. No, no, no, no,
- 1:25:15Speaker 1: Trevor is a year later. That's what I'm saying. You
- 1:25:17Speaker 1: have two draft picks a year. I'm not doing it
- 1:25:19Speaker 1: that year either. I'm no, I'm going to tank because
- 1:25:21Speaker 1: I'm gonna rebuild this thing the right way. I'm gonna
- 1:25:24Speaker 1: tank for Trevor. I'm gonna use my two first round
- 1:25:26Speaker 1: picks this year to get two big people. I'm gonna
- 1:25:30Speaker 1: in the second, third round, I'm gonna get big people
- 1:25:32Speaker 1: and then and then tank for Trevor. He's already he's
- 1:25:35Speaker 1: already disqualified himself. Let's move on. Yeah, you're no longer
- 1:25:39Speaker 1: a candidate, Mr Criscoe, because Trevor's coming out next year.
- 1:25:43Speaker 1: He's coming out next year, not two years. He's gonna
- 1:25:46Speaker 1: not gonna be in this draft. He's gonna be in
- 1:25:48Speaker 1: the one a year from now. And what JP is
- 1:25:50Speaker 1: trying to say, you idiot, we have two first rounds,
- 1:25:53Speaker 1: but I'm not trading them up. I'm gonna I'm gonna
- 1:25:55Speaker 1: lose to get him. I don't need to trade up.
- 1:25:59Speaker 1: You have first round picks. Next question at Sam I
- 1:26:04Speaker 1: am sheer thirteen. What should we look for or cheer
- 1:26:08Speaker 1: for give us a sliver of hope for the last
- 1:26:10Speaker 1: couple of games. Tony and Peter j pot you guys
- 1:26:13Speaker 1: take this one. Pete get a better draft pick, and
- 1:26:24Speaker 1: Josh Allen the approvement of Tavid Brian Actually he's playing better.
- 1:26:29Speaker 1: And watch Minshew, there's there's your things to watch. There
- 1:26:34Speaker 1: are some young talented players in this team. Sure you
- 1:26:37Speaker 1: want to see how they developed. I think that's a
- 1:26:38Speaker 1: sliver of hope for the future. Next question at Riley
- 1:26:42Speaker 1: Underscore Kendrick, do you guys know where I can donate?
- 1:26:45Speaker 1: And at Jalen Ramsey Jersey. I tried local thrift stores
- 1:26:47Speaker 1: where they kept turning me down because they don't accept
- 1:26:49Speaker 1: trash hashtag. Doovall were past? I thought we were told
- 1:26:55Speaker 1: we're not talking about the Rams one last week right
- 1:26:58Speaker 1: yesterday the salon Ramsey signed that guy's Jersey Freeman put
- 1:27:02Speaker 1: in his house. Yeah, I don't think he would. No, No,
- 1:27:08Speaker 1: what would the uh? I know we're not talking draft Yetah,
- 1:27:10Speaker 1: we are where the Rams drafting? Right now? That's what
- 1:27:13Speaker 1: I was gonna ask. Right now, I'll tell you a
- 1:27:15Speaker 1: second hold on they won yesterday. Since in the twenties,
- 1:27:19Speaker 1: I think right, I think it's late teens. Let's go
- 1:27:24Speaker 1: to the next The good dudes about that is they
- 1:27:26Speaker 1: got cap issues going forward to Yes, they do. Absolutely.
- 1:27:31Speaker 1: We'll get the answer to that coming up at John
- 1:27:33Speaker 1: d Underscore. Scott has the next one. Do you remember
- 1:27:36Speaker 1: Thesellly Burger some of my fondest memories from the late nineties.
- 1:27:39Speaker 1: What ingredients did it have? What would have improved it? Well,
- 1:27:44Speaker 1: we've really gone we're going downhill here, but um we Yeah.
- 1:27:47Speaker 1: I had three patties on it, like on a Hoagi roll,
- 1:27:50Speaker 1: two or three pieces of cheese, some onions and pickles
- 1:27:54Speaker 1: or a little mayo. We mustard little mayo. It was.
- 1:27:59Speaker 1: It was a good burger. Okay, what was that from
- 1:28:01Speaker 1: Tony McDonald's and ninety five or six? Right? I forgot
- 1:28:05Speaker 1: about what could have improved It didn't have onions on it,
- 1:28:11Speaker 1: but okay, grilled onions improved it. I love onions, pipinos. Oh,
- 1:28:15Speaker 1: I like colopenios. Yeah, I think those would be two
- 1:28:18Speaker 1: good editions. Maybe about cheddar cheese. I'd like one more,
- 1:28:22Speaker 1: one more. Hey. By the way, if the Jaguars the
- 1:28:28Speaker 1: Jaguars drafted today, they'd be picking eight for the wrong
- 1:28:32Speaker 1: pick and twenty with the Rams pick. All right, what
- 1:28:38Speaker 1: else would improve these burger piece nothing. Let's go on
- 1:28:42Speaker 1: that mushrooms. I like mushrooms. Okay, good day. By the way,
- 1:28:46Speaker 1: it has a side of ego that comes with it's
- 1:28:51Speaker 1: not very nice, it's hurt full. You are correct, Sir
- 1:29:00Speaker 1: at knows Blog. Thanks question, who does the Nick Foles
- 1:29:06Speaker 1: signing fall on Shod con Tom Coughlin or Dave Caldwell
- 1:29:11Speaker 1: quotes on Tom and Dave. I mean that that's their
- 1:29:13Speaker 1: responsibility and all the above, right, No, no, no, because
- 1:29:18Speaker 1: you hire good people and then you trust their ability
- 1:29:20Speaker 1: to do the job. On the money, it's on Tom
- 1:29:24Speaker 1: and Dave. You don't think though that when they're ready
- 1:29:27Speaker 1: to go sign Nick Foles, they don't call upstairs and say, hey,
- 1:29:31Speaker 1: Mr Cohn, are you okay with us spending eight million? Yeah,
- 1:29:34Speaker 1: but it's not. It's not Shod's job to evaluate the player, correct,
- 1:29:40Speaker 1: that's the that's Tom's ultimately, Ultimately, if you want it
- 1:29:43Speaker 1: goes to Tom Tom, and and ultimately I think that
- 1:29:47Speaker 1: was Tom's decision. It's his decision, and I think he
- 1:29:50Speaker 1: was the one that was wanted Folds more than anybody,
- 1:29:54Speaker 1: just like I think he was the one. And you
- 1:29:57Speaker 1: guys to deny this. I don't know if you've heard
- 1:29:59Speaker 1: this too, but he wanted Leonard Bournett. Well, I'm not
- 1:30:04Speaker 1: gonna speculate who wanted what. But in win uh shot,
- 1:30:14Speaker 1: Kohn hired Tom Coughlin be in charge of all football.
- 1:30:18Speaker 1: It was very clear that he had final say in
- 1:30:20Speaker 1: all football decisions. So how the information is gathered and
- 1:30:24Speaker 1: who is RESPONSI for what piece of that information? And
- 1:30:28Speaker 1: up to Tom? The sign off is Tom at the
- 1:30:31Speaker 1: end of the day. So's how it works. Yes, Tony
- 1:30:38Speaker 1: as a Jaguar guy in the legend and all that.
- 1:30:42Speaker 1: Does it bother you when you sit there and watch
- 1:30:43Speaker 1: the games and you see just Suson beat down New
- 1:30:47Speaker 1: England on Sunday night, you see Lamar Jackson running wild,
- 1:30:52Speaker 1: you see you see you see Patrick Mahomes doing what
- 1:30:55Speaker 1: he's doing. And they passed it on the chance to
- 1:30:58Speaker 1: draft all of them. M Yeah, Let's go to the
- 1:31:01Speaker 1: next question. Final question here at stut whinners for Pete
- 1:31:10Speaker 1: given the secondary needs work, where Thinn at safety, the
- 1:31:13Speaker 1: linebackers are trashed, and the defensive line is likely to
- 1:31:15Speaker 1: be worse next season. But players being let go, where
- 1:31:18Speaker 1: would you start on the inevitable rebuild that's now needed
- 1:31:22Speaker 1: me and Tony talked about it all the time. You
- 1:31:24Speaker 1: have to draft big people all the way around. Fine
- 1:31:27Speaker 1: big people, offensive lineman, defensive lineman. If you're good on
- 1:31:31Speaker 1: those lines, like the forty niners, you're going to be
- 1:31:35Speaker 1: good team. And and that's where you have to start.
- 1:31:38Speaker 1: So it's all about the draft. And Tony I agree
- 1:31:41Speaker 1: with you. You go big defensive lineman first, Avid's lineman second,
- 1:31:44Speaker 1: whatever you want to do, but you gotta get big
- 1:31:46Speaker 1: people in the draft. So I mean, I'm a firm believer.
- 1:31:49Speaker 1: You build a team inside out. Obviously, you have to
- 1:31:52Speaker 1: have the quarterback. You don't have to have a you know,
- 1:31:54Speaker 1: Paul Fame quarterback, but you have to have a good
- 1:31:56Speaker 1: quarterback that can we games for you and you know,
- 1:32:02Speaker 1: operating the offense. So take that off the board. You
- 1:32:05Speaker 1: have to have offensive defensive line. You have to build
- 1:32:08Speaker 1: with big people. And then the next piece on defense
- 1:32:11Speaker 1: is you need one really good corner that will help
- 1:32:14Speaker 1: you because it can change how you do your back
- 1:32:16Speaker 1: halfs cover. But starting you build with big human beings.
- 1:32:24Speaker 1: Did you do that? Did you do the Thursday games Thanksgiving? Yeah?
- 1:32:29Speaker 1: I did? Uh? The game? Did the night games? Okay?
- 1:32:33Speaker 1: I thought you did the Bills Cowboys games. But uh yeah,
- 1:32:38Speaker 1: I mean Josh Allen's another one who's growing as a quarterback.
- 1:32:41Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are becoming good players, and it's
- 1:32:44Speaker 1: just got to be. If you're a Jaguar fan, you
- 1:32:46Speaker 1: have to be infuriated when you see that happening and
- 1:32:49Speaker 1: then you see your guy get benched. You see what
- 1:32:51Speaker 1: they paid Bordles. He's not there anymore. I mean, the
- 1:32:54Speaker 1: whole thing has been a disaster from the quarterback position.
- 1:32:57Speaker 1: Not good, not good, not good, no other way to
- 1:33:01Speaker 1: say it. Well, how do you fix it? You hope,
- 1:33:07Speaker 1: like heck Minsho becomes something that you didn't expect him
- 1:33:10Speaker 1: to become. That's how you fix it. And he'll have
- 1:33:14Speaker 1: a year to do that. Yeah, I mean I think.
- 1:33:17Speaker 1: I mean, unless you're sitting there where you get all
- 1:33:21Speaker 1: the way up to one or two, which I don't
- 1:33:24Speaker 1: see happening, and you evaluate. Yeah, but even if you
- 1:33:28Speaker 1: got the one right now, if you were the one team,
- 1:33:31Speaker 1: would you Joe Burrow is the only guy right now
- 1:33:33Speaker 1: that you could pass my point? I would. I would
- 1:33:35Speaker 1: do a lot of work on Joe Burrows. And if
- 1:33:36Speaker 1: I think he is the next great quarterback in this league,
- 1:33:41Speaker 1: then I'm taking Joe Burrows. Now, I don't know that
- 1:33:47Speaker 1: for a fact. I have watched one game of Joe
- 1:33:49Speaker 1: burrows entire career, which is a good Alabama That's it.
- 1:33:54Speaker 1: That's all I saw. So I don't know if he's
- 1:33:56Speaker 1: the guy. I don't know if he has a skill set.
- 1:33:58Speaker 1: I don't know what his mental makeup, biz, I don't
- 1:34:00Speaker 1: know anything about him. But I'm saying, if you got
- 1:34:03Speaker 1: to the point where you're sitting there at one and
- 1:34:07Speaker 1: you think there's a a quarterback that can be a
- 1:34:11Speaker 1: generational guy, that's going to be your guy for the
- 1:34:14Speaker 1: next ten to fifteen years, you pick them. Otherwise you
- 1:34:19Speaker 1: roll with Mintshew. You let that thing play out through
- 1:34:22Speaker 1: the him and fulls, through the training camp and all that.
- 1:34:25Speaker 1: But you build up both lines and you gotta get
- 1:34:29Speaker 1: more speed in the secondary. That's the other thing that
- 1:34:30Speaker 1: does worry me. I don't think we're very fast in
- 1:34:32Speaker 1: the back end. Are they fast enough at wide receiver? Well?
- 1:34:39Speaker 1: DJ can fly, didn't you run like four three? Yeah? Yeah,
- 1:34:43Speaker 1: I think they are. I'm just asking because we watched
- 1:34:45Speaker 1: these like we watched New England last night. They're not
- 1:34:47Speaker 1: fast enough at wide receiver. I mean DJ can fly,
- 1:34:51Speaker 1: there's any question about that. They'll do it for our
- 1:34:55Speaker 1: social questions. They put us in a better mood. Oh yeah, great,
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- 1:38:36Speaker 1: Welcome Back, Jaguars Happy Hour, j P Shadrick, Tony Va,
- 1:38:40Speaker 1: Slly Pete Prisco. Glad you're along with US eleven the
- 1:38:45Speaker 1: final Yesterday, Buccaneers over the Jaguars. The Jags are now
- 1:38:48Speaker 1: four and eight. There were four and four at the
- 1:38:52Speaker 1: end of October. And the worst part, I don't know
- 1:38:56Speaker 1: if it's the worst part. Wanted to add another worst
- 1:39:00Speaker 1: part I will tell you once you say it. Let's see.
- 1:39:02Speaker 1: Because not only they've lost four straight, they've they've been
- 1:39:04Speaker 1: blown out. It has been a bad looking to possession
- 1:39:09Speaker 1: game I mean losses. I mean so if you average
- 1:39:15Speaker 1: it out, I'm sure it goes well over losses over
- 1:39:18Speaker 1: the four games. That's some. As I said in the
- 1:39:22Speaker 1: post game, it's just some bad football. It's all it is.
- 1:39:26Speaker 1: It's bad. It might be the worst that's ever been
- 1:39:29Speaker 1: around that and that says something. Seriously, this might be
- 1:39:33Speaker 1: the worst, the worst little stretch of football played by
- 1:39:35Speaker 1: any Jaguars team, and that includes the expansion team. Were
- 1:39:45Speaker 1: just some really at the end of Coffin's tenure. There's
- 1:39:47Speaker 1: some really bad football now they were in games. H
- 1:39:54Speaker 1: this might be the world I'm serious. This might be
- 1:39:55Speaker 1: the worst stretch of games that any Jaguar team has
- 1:39:58Speaker 1: ever had. It's painful. How could we be so wrong
- 1:40:04Speaker 1: about this team? We're way off? Yeah, way off. We'll
- 1:40:13Speaker 1: beat your way off? So are you? No? I had him,
- 1:40:18Speaker 1: I had us losing four straight. No, you had him
- 1:40:21Speaker 1: winning seventh straight. Not I go to the super Bowl?
- 1:40:28Speaker 1: Remember we were gonna all eat a runway right? And
- 1:40:32Speaker 1: when the when the division though? You said, and have
- 1:40:34Speaker 1: a home field by Yeah, little off missed it? Just
- 1:40:38Speaker 1: this coach. Let's take a look at the AFC South
- 1:40:42Speaker 1: results yesterday, the games in the division. There was a
- 1:40:46Speaker 1: divisional game Titans and the Colts. The Titans won that
- 1:40:49Speaker 1: one seventeen. Derrick Henry went for one fortne and a touchdown.
- 1:40:53Speaker 1: Tannehill made some big throws efficient a couple of touchdowns,
- 1:40:58Speaker 1: and the Titans made a move there. Pete, how about
- 1:41:01Speaker 1: the fact that they're talking about uh franchising Tanny Hill.
- 1:41:06Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. I mean, he's playing pretty good football. He's
- 1:41:10Speaker 1: four and one is a start. He's playing really good football.
- 1:41:13Speaker 1: And Jacksonville could have hit him a lot cheaper than
- 1:41:16Speaker 1: Nick Foles. Here we go, but let's be real about it.
- 1:41:20Speaker 1: They could have Texans beat the Patriots on Sunday Night football.
- 1:41:28Speaker 1: Watson was strong again. Three touchdowns through the year and
- 1:41:31Speaker 1: one receiving on a pitch play. Brady had some yardage
- 1:41:35Speaker 1: late to try to get them back in the game.
- 1:41:37Speaker 1: Three touchdowns and an interception, but Watson showing off again.
- 1:41:40Speaker 1: This is uh, this is a pretty good Texans team
- 1:41:43Speaker 1: right now, and they're getting healthy in the secondary, which
- 1:41:46Speaker 1: makes them play better. It helps that New England can't run,
- 1:41:49Speaker 1: but they played better in defense. That's a big win
- 1:41:52Speaker 1: for the Texas because they Bill O'Brien was oh and
- 1:41:55Speaker 1: five against the Patriots and and to win that game
- 1:41:58Speaker 1: is important for him. And obviously look out close at
- 1:42:00Speaker 1: division races. I think it's gonna be right out of
- 1:42:03Speaker 1: the wire. Are the Patriots. I mean I when we
- 1:42:05Speaker 1: bury the Patriots at least once a year, usually not
- 1:42:08Speaker 1: this late. I don't, but most people do. Are you
- 1:42:12Speaker 1: are you. I mean, I'm yeah. They do play the
- 1:42:17Speaker 1: Chiefs this week though at Oh think about this, Tony,
- 1:42:21Speaker 1: if the somehow not somehow, because it's possible if the
- 1:42:24Speaker 1: Bills beat the Ravens this week at home and the
- 1:42:28Speaker 1: Patriots lose to the Chiefs at home, the Bills will
- 1:42:31Speaker 1: be tied for first place with They're still playing with
- 1:42:33Speaker 1: it later on the season in Buffalo. Like, well, here's
- 1:42:36Speaker 1: the thing. Even if Buffalo loses this game and the
- 1:42:40Speaker 1: Patriots both lose, they're only one game back and they
- 1:42:45Speaker 1: play each other at the end of the season. If
- 1:42:46Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills wouldn't beat them, split the senior series,
- 1:42:51Speaker 1: So you have to go to division a bunch of tiebreakers.
- 1:42:53Speaker 1: I mean it's not I mean there's a lot of
- 1:42:55Speaker 1: football left to be playing in the a FC East. Yeah,
- 1:42:57Speaker 1: Patriots have issues. You watch the game. They I think
- 1:43:01Speaker 1: they can't run. So they double Edelman. In the past,
- 1:43:04Speaker 1: when you doubled Edelman, you could throw the grock because
- 1:43:06Speaker 1: he or he was getting double. When you can throw
- 1:43:08Speaker 1: Edelman now, they don't have anybody else to throw to
- 1:43:10Speaker 1: run game because I mean, Sony Michelle got away from it.
- 1:43:14Speaker 1: They got away from the line isn't as good either,
- 1:43:17Speaker 1: but they got it. He ran right off the batty.
- 1:43:19Speaker 1: He was running running. Then they got away from it.
- 1:43:20Speaker 1: I don't understand why they did that, all right? The
- 1:43:24Speaker 1: division standings look like this, Houston at eight and four
- 1:43:27Speaker 1: leading the way three and one in the division, Tennessee
- 1:43:30Speaker 1: making a move at seven and five, two and two
- 1:43:33Speaker 1: in the ANFC South, Indiant six and six, and the
- 1:43:36Speaker 1: Jags at the bottom of four and eight. Well, I mean,
- 1:43:39Speaker 1: the power rankings are the rankings. Uh, Tennessee is playing
- 1:43:43Speaker 1: good football and Houston saw to play there. I think
- 1:43:45Speaker 1: they go to Tennessee from not they play him twice
- 1:43:48Speaker 1: Tonty in the last three weeks, and don't be shocked.
- 1:43:54Speaker 1: I think Titans are the better team right now. If
- 1:43:55Speaker 1: the Titans, who are physical and run the ball, don't
- 1:44:00Speaker 1: be shocked at the end of the season if they're
- 1:44:01Speaker 1: at the top of the division. I'm not I'm not
- 1:44:03Speaker 1: agreeing it, but just don't be shocked if it happens.
- 1:44:06Speaker 1: I think it will happen, do you think, I think?
- 1:44:09Speaker 1: But yeah, so you so. If you're doing power rankings,
- 1:44:11Speaker 1: you have Tennessee as one. Houston is too. Oh right,
- 1:44:14Speaker 1: all right? Now, man, maybe I might put them ahead
- 1:44:17Speaker 1: of them. You just said they're a better team. That
- 1:44:20Speaker 1: was an oppressive win last night for Houston, though, I
- 1:44:23Speaker 1: I got. I mean they're close for me. I just
- 1:44:26Speaker 1: they played twice in That's what's going to decide it
- 1:44:30Speaker 1: is the Indianapolis has had problems with sept the last
- 1:44:33Speaker 1: couple of weeks. M There you have it. The AFC South.
- 1:44:38Speaker 1: The Jags are no longer contenders. Yeah, that division. I
- 1:44:42Speaker 1: think are contenders in the division. But four and four,
- 1:44:46Speaker 1: if they would have made a run through that next month,
- 1:44:48Speaker 1: sure at four and four, if they went three straight
- 1:44:53Speaker 1: over the Titans, the Titans, the Bengals, the Broncos, and
- 1:44:58Speaker 1: the Jets. Oh and the Titans now looks like a
- 1:45:03Speaker 1: good win because that's the only team that has a
- 1:45:05Speaker 1: winning record that well. They it was not the Tanny
- 1:45:08Speaker 1: Hill Titans. It was the Mariota Titans. And it was
- 1:45:11Speaker 1: a game that we got the early turnover, jumped up
- 1:45:13Speaker 1: the muffunt, jumped on fast and kind of just rode
- 1:45:17Speaker 1: the momentum till the end and slowed down. They could
- 1:45:19Speaker 1: actually so maybe the jagguars could have the first overall
- 1:45:22Speaker 1: pick up. They lost that game. Well, the Bengals aren't
- 1:45:26Speaker 1: winning another game, aren't they. They played Miami again, so
- 1:45:30Speaker 1: somebody's gotta win another one. Yeah, let's come back. Let's
- 1:45:36Speaker 1: look around the rest of the National Football League Finals
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- 1:49:19Speaker 1: Happy our final moments here, j P. Shadrick, Tony Vasselli,
- 1:49:23Speaker 1: Pete Priscoe, and yet again, if we had the in
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- 1:49:33Speaker 1: Before we go around the league all, you know, joking
- 1:49:38Speaker 1: and tongue in cheek, you know. Put aside, how do
- 1:49:41Speaker 1: you see this thing playing out the last four weeks here?
- 1:49:45Speaker 1: I think Benshew will will be the start of the
- 1:49:48Speaker 1: entire four week stretch and he should be. I think
- 1:49:50Speaker 1: you'll play well in a couple of games, and average
- 1:49:52Speaker 1: and others. I don't think they're gonna win a game, uh,
- 1:49:57Speaker 1: you know, maybe one, one and three, down a stretch
- 1:50:00Speaker 1: and then you're gonna see wholesale changes at the end
- 1:50:02Speaker 1: of the year. That's that's how I see it playing out.
- 1:50:06Speaker 1: I mean it's not it's not. If you want reality,
- 1:50:10Speaker 1: I'm not arguing with you, but it's a long four weeks.
- 1:50:14Speaker 1: It's going to be a long four weeks. Our show,
- 1:50:17Speaker 1: this show on Monday will make for a long four
- 1:50:19Speaker 1: weeks because we're gonna say the same thing over and
- 1:50:21Speaker 1: over again, which means JP, we gotta start looking at
- 1:50:24Speaker 1: the draft, yes, at some point and free agents. Well,
- 1:50:29Speaker 1: I think at some point you the coaching staff can't
- 1:50:33Speaker 1: do this because you just gotta keep on fighting. That's right.
- 1:50:36Speaker 1: But I'll tell you the thing you do. Worry about
- 1:50:38Speaker 1: it as as an organization. I mean, if it's continues
- 1:50:43Speaker 1: to go the path that Bete just said, it's obvious
- 1:50:47Speaker 1: that like changes, wholesale changes are gonna be made. The
- 1:50:50Speaker 1: danger on every staff is all of a sudden, those
- 1:50:53Speaker 1: guys are starting to spend as much time looking for
- 1:50:55Speaker 1: their next gig, which which is natural and understand at them.
- 1:51:00Speaker 1: But they got families. They got families. I'm not being
- 1:51:03Speaker 1: critical of them. I'm just saying it's not good that's
- 1:51:07Speaker 1: the worst part of a coaching firing. Look the head coach,
- 1:51:13Speaker 1: he made a lot of money, can deal with it.
- 1:51:15Speaker 1: He'll move on. It's like the younger guys who have
- 1:51:18Speaker 1: young families and they got and then they'd sign up
- 1:51:20Speaker 1: for their profession. So you know what you're getting into.
- 1:51:22Speaker 1: But it's never easy on the families when you get
- 1:51:24Speaker 1: fired like that. They gotta go scramble to find other
- 1:51:27Speaker 1: jobs and hope, like you can stay in in in
- 1:51:29Speaker 1: the NFL, it's tough, not fun. You get you, you
- 1:51:34Speaker 1: get hired, You become a coach knowing that you're probably
- 1:51:37Speaker 1: gonna get They all get fired, right, everybody gets fired.
- 1:51:43Speaker 1: To Golfer got fired New York and he want two
- 1:51:45Speaker 1: Super Bowls. Yes, now he resigned. Oh that's right, technically yeah, okay,
- 1:51:55Speaker 1: let's go around the National Football League and recap all
- 1:51:57Speaker 1: these games. Let starting Thanksgiving the Airs over the Lions
- 1:52:01Speaker 1: twenty four. The Bears come away with Risky, started playing
- 1:52:04Speaker 1: better in the second half, made some plays, made some throws.
- 1:52:08Speaker 1: Two games in a row, he's played better. Yeah, I agree,
- 1:52:11Speaker 1: he's trending in the right direction there, six and six.
- 1:52:14Speaker 1: It's it's a long shof for them. To get the
- 1:52:18Speaker 1: wild card just because of how strong I mean you have. Uh,
- 1:52:23Speaker 1: you know you have the two teams in the NFC West,
- 1:52:25Speaker 1: they're not getting the wild card. Both are tenant too,
- 1:52:28Speaker 1: you have. Really, they're gonna be fighting for the Rams,
- 1:52:33Speaker 1: I guess, Pete, no, because from the Vikings and the Packers. Yeah,
- 1:52:42Speaker 1: Bills over the Cowboys. Emotional Jerry Jones after the games
- 1:52:46Speaker 1: these days, Well, that's another job that's gonna be open
- 1:52:50Speaker 1: in my opinion, even if they go to the playoffs.
- 1:52:52Speaker 1: Unless they make a playoff run, I don't see Jerry
- 1:52:54Speaker 1: Jones bringing Jason Garrett back. Pete, I don't either, And
- 1:52:57Speaker 1: I think he's gonna go big and try and get
- 1:52:58Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley. That's what I think he's gonna right up
- 1:53:01Speaker 1: the road. And by the way, let's give Jaun mcdermock credit.
- 1:53:05Speaker 1: Guy has done an unbelievable job with that team. Buffalo
- 1:53:08Speaker 1: is a good team and he's a good coach. And
- 1:53:10Speaker 1: Josh Allen's becoming a good quarterback like some of this
- 1:53:13Speaker 1: predicted he would. And you keep on saying that. And
- 1:53:17Speaker 1: for anyone who doesn't know the reason Pete keeps on
- 1:53:19Speaker 1: bringing up Josh Allen because he was saying in that
- 1:53:22Speaker 1: draft that he was the best quarterback and it it
- 1:53:25Speaker 1: looks so good for a while, especially at the beginning
- 1:53:27Speaker 1: of this year, and now that he's playing well, Pete
- 1:53:29Speaker 1: Brisco not afraid to pat himself on the back and
- 1:53:31Speaker 1: will make sure I always thought he would be the
- 1:53:34Speaker 1: best of that draft. He's not the best in that draft,
- 1:53:36Speaker 1: by the way, No Lamar Jackson is, but Josh Allen
- 1:53:41Speaker 1: might end up being. Remember the Jackson Bills met just
- 1:53:45Speaker 1: two seasons to go in the playoffs going different directions.
- 1:53:48Speaker 1: Since Thanksgiving Night game, you had this one Tony Saints
- 1:53:51Speaker 1: over the Falcons. Not a very good game at all.
- 1:53:54Speaker 1: The Saints weren't very good offensively. Give the Falcons credit,
- 1:53:57Speaker 1: but the Falcons have major issue. Their offensive line is
- 1:54:01Speaker 1: not very good at all. They couldn't block anybody. He
- 1:54:05Speaker 1: got brutalized in that game. He got abused, They had
- 1:54:08Speaker 1: no Julio Jones. They're not a very good football team.
- 1:54:11Speaker 1: That's another team. I think there's gonna be whole Steale changes.
- 1:54:13Speaker 1: It's gonna The only reason there's a hope that there
- 1:54:16Speaker 1: won't be is because how much Arthur Blank likes Thomas
- 1:54:19Speaker 1: de Meetroff and dan Quinn. But that was a Thursday
- 1:54:23Speaker 1: night primetime game on Thanksgiving Division rivals, and it was
- 1:54:28Speaker 1: the stadium was half filled. Can't have that game of
- 1:54:33Speaker 1: the week in the NFL. The Ravens over the forty
- 1:54:36Speaker 1: seventeen the last second field goal. Lamar Jackson solidifying his
- 1:54:40Speaker 1: m VP front running status if it wasn't already solidified
- 1:54:46Speaker 1: right now. But let's not just give it to him
- 1:54:47Speaker 1: quite yet. He's he is the front runner, but a
- 1:54:49Speaker 1: guy named Russell Wilson, who will see on Monday Night football,
- 1:54:52Speaker 1: is having a great year too. I think it's down
- 1:54:54Speaker 1: to either one of those two. Is the m v P.
- 1:54:56Speaker 1: Last two weeks, he's tailed off a bit. He's a
- 1:54:59Speaker 1: statistic I agree. I think Lamar is the front runner,
- 1:55:02Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. But I think that game
- 1:55:04Speaker 1: said is much about the forty niners and what type
- 1:55:06Speaker 1: of team they are. Go across the country at ten
- 1:55:09Speaker 1: am kickoff their local time, terrible weather, wet rain. Baltimore
- 1:55:14Speaker 1: is a good football team, tough place to play, and
- 1:55:16Speaker 1: it took everything the Ravens had. And by the way
- 1:55:20Speaker 1: the forty nine are slowed down, they're the first team
- 1:55:22Speaker 1: that really slowed down that offense. That's a good football team.
- 1:55:26Speaker 1: And don't be surprised if the two teams we just
- 1:55:29Speaker 1: saw we're seeing in Miami in the Super Bowl. Hey.
- 1:55:32Speaker 1: By the way, one quick thing about Lamar Jackson. In
- 1:55:35Speaker 1: a million years, did you ever think that a guy
- 1:55:36Speaker 1: would throw up a hundred thirty yards and we'd be
- 1:55:38Speaker 1: talking about him as the mt D because the problem
- 1:55:41Speaker 1: is he rushed Redskins over the Panthers. Yes, another job
- 1:55:49Speaker 1: that'd be opened both those guys. I think both those
- 1:55:52Speaker 1: teams have new head coaches next year. Uh. The Panthers
- 1:55:57Speaker 1: aren't a very good team. They have a great player
- 1:55:58Speaker 1: on Christie McCaffrey. You know, Kyle Allen has tailed off
- 1:56:01Speaker 1: a little bit. And to lose that game, they had
- 1:56:04Speaker 1: a lead, but to lose to the Redskins the way
- 1:56:06Speaker 1: they did, I do not see uh uh. David Tapper,
- 1:56:09Speaker 1: the owner of the Carolina Panthers, sticking with Ron Rivera.
- 1:56:13Speaker 1: They can't stop the run at all. By the way, terrible.
- 1:56:16Speaker 1: The black Cat ran on the field of Monday Night
- 1:56:18Speaker 1: Football in November four. Since then, teams with cat mascots
- 1:56:21Speaker 1: were winless oh and twelve. Coming into the weekend. The
- 1:56:24Speaker 1: Bengals snapped that though they got their first win of
- 1:56:27Speaker 1: the year and broke the curse all at one time.
- 1:56:29Speaker 1: There's no such thing as a black Cat curse. That's
- 1:56:31Speaker 1: ridiculous and foolish. But congratulations to the Bengals getting off
- 1:56:36Speaker 1: the schneide and for Zach Taylor getting his first career
- 1:56:38Speaker 1: win as the head coach. And Darna was terrible, terrible yesterday.
- 1:56:44Speaker 1: Dolphins over the Eagles. Dolphins in that game can't happen,
- 1:56:51Speaker 1: Philly cannot happen. But give the dog I mean, Brian Flores,
- 1:56:55Speaker 1: I mean, everyone was killing them that they're taking and
- 1:56:58Speaker 1: you talk to people in that building, I think it
- 1:57:00Speaker 1: was even Dan Marino said something of how well he
- 1:57:03Speaker 1: has got those guys prepared and to play hard. They're
- 1:57:05Speaker 1: not very talented, but they play hard. I agree. But
- 1:57:09Speaker 1: when from the Eagle standpoint, there's no way you could
- 1:57:11Speaker 1: be up and allow that game to happen. The way
- 1:57:13Speaker 1: that secondary for the Eagles is the trocious. So Pete,
- 1:57:16Speaker 1: they're really bad. Yes, they had played better than the
- 1:57:18Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, and they were terrible yesterday. Let's
- 1:57:21Speaker 1: get through the final few games. Your Packers over the
- 1:57:23Speaker 1: Giants thirty one fourteen and the snow in New York.
- 1:57:25Speaker 1: The Steelers over the Browns. But let stop he real quick.
- 1:57:31Speaker 1: Pete is Freddy Kitchens in trouble, Yes, he is in trouble.
- 1:57:35Speaker 1: Rams over the Cardinals, Big Broncos over the Chargers. Wild
- 1:57:40Speaker 1: ending there with a pass interference call. Terrible call. You
- 1:57:43Speaker 1: don't call that in that situation, but it was. It
- 1:57:45Speaker 1: was just an awful call, over officiated. Let him play.
- 1:57:49Speaker 1: It was first of all, Casey Hayward was looking back
- 1:57:51Speaker 1: at the ball. You don't call that in the middle
- 1:57:54Speaker 1: of the second quarter. You clearly don't call that. In
- 1:57:56Speaker 1: the final seconds. You don't call that ever. Chiefs over
- 1:57:59Speaker 1: the race. There's forty to nine. Yeah, terrible. So much
- 1:58:04Speaker 1: for the idea that the Raiders could compete the last
- 1:58:06Speaker 1: two weeks. Gotta ruin that. It's a monster match up
- 1:58:10Speaker 1: on Monday Night football, a pair of teams trying to
- 1:58:13Speaker 1: keep pace at the top of their respective divisions. A
- 1:58:15Speaker 1: suddenly resurgent Kirk Cousins has twenty one touchdowns and only
- 1:58:19Speaker 1: three picks as he leads the eight and three Minnesota
- 1:58:21Speaker 1: Vikings into the Pacific Northwest to face Russell Wilson, who's
- 1:58:25Speaker 1: falling a little bit off that m v P pace,
- 1:58:28Speaker 1: but still has the Seattle Seahawks team at nine and two.
- 1:58:31Speaker 1: Who you got tonight in Seattle? Another great Monday night matchup.
- 1:58:35Speaker 1: I mean, you know, years passed, Monday Night football had
- 1:58:37Speaker 1: fallen off. They weren't giving him very good games in
- 1:58:39Speaker 1: my opinion, but this is another great one. I think
- 1:58:43Speaker 1: the Vikings are really good and Kirk Cousins is playing
- 1:58:46Speaker 1: good football. They have two outstanding receivers and one of
- 1:58:50Speaker 1: my favorite backs in the NFL and Dalvin Cook. Uh,
- 1:58:53Speaker 1: they can rush the pastor going to Seattle's tough, tough
- 1:58:57Speaker 1: place to play, but I think the Vikes win a
- 1:59:00Speaker 1: close game to Wow. Pete. No feeling tonight though, Tony
- 1:59:04Speaker 1: he's out, so he's got the hamstring injury. He's not
- 1:59:06Speaker 1: gonna play. That hurts them. Plus, here's all you need
- 1:59:09Speaker 1: to know, Kirk Cousins, big game, prime time on the road.
- 1:59:13Speaker 1: You know what's gonna happen. Seattle and Russell Wilson are
- 1:59:16Speaker 1: gonna light them up. They're gonna win the game easily.
- 1:59:17Speaker 1: I like Seattle all right, easily. Ten ten points? Wow,
- 1:59:23Speaker 1: ten points Pete, Prisco, have a great week. We'll talk
- 1:59:26Speaker 1: to you next week. Tony's down down, You're right, I
- 1:59:32Speaker 1: am this Pete Frisco out of here. You guys all right, man, Tony,
- 1:59:36Speaker 1: we'll talk to you soon. Looking forward to it. Have
- 1:59:39Speaker 1: a good one. Yes, thank you for listening and watching
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