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The Rita Panahi Show | 13 May · The Rita Panahi Show

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  Speaker 1: On scorn lives Austrodia.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Wider Panalty Show.
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  Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panning Show. Coming
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  Speaker 3: up tonight, Coalition Climate wars on the horizon as Liberals
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  Speaker 3: off for Susan Lee as leader. Patrick Carline will be
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  Speaker 3: here to discuss the day's top headlines, including leftist feminist
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  Speaker 3: agitators Abby Chatfield and Clementine Ford turning on each other.
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  Speaker 3: Sippety Bastian will weigh in on the new liberal leader.
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  Speaker 3: Is she a genuine women's rights warrior or does she
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  Speaker 3: struggle to explain what a woman is? Kosher Gator will
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  Speaker 3: have the latest on the trade war between China and
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  Speaker 3: the US, and later in the hour they always droll
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  Speaker 3: Alex Stein on the Trump administration taking on big farmer
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  Speaker 3: and left. He's losing. It is a extra unhinged tonight.
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  Speaker 3: I can help me talk to somebody.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't you Entime tegal.
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  Speaker 3: Rules Today voted in Susan Lee as their new leader,
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  Speaker 3: opting for her over Angus Tail on a very slim
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  Speaker 3: margin of twenty nine to twenty five, which saw Jacenterprives
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  Speaker 3: decide not to run for deputy leadership. Are that left
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  Speaker 3: ted O'Brien to defeat Phil Thompson quite comfortably thirty eight
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  Speaker 3: to sixteen votes. Now on Susan Lee, we know she
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  Speaker 3: added an extra s to her name because of her
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  Speaker 3: belief in numerology. She has also done some massive backflips
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  Speaker 3: on a range of issues, from Israel to the Voice referendum.
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  Speaker 3: On Israel, she is a bit of a late convert.
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  Speaker 3: She labeled Foreign Minister Pennywonk's criticism of the only Jewish
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  Speaker 3: state disgraceful. Recently, but earlier in her political career she
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  Speaker 3: took a different approach. In twenty eleven, she voted for
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  Speaker 3: Palestinian statehood, saying a secure Israel demands a Bible Palestinian state.
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  Speaker 3: The occupation's daily toll checkpoints, permits, lockdowns, home detention, settlement
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  Speaker 3: expansion is exhausting the Palestinian people and are undermining hopes
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  Speaker 3: for peace. And in two thousand and eight, she said
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  Speaker 3: during Israel's sixtieth and adversary in Parliament that Gaza is besieged,
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  Speaker 3: contained on the brink of starvation. She said, while we
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  Speaker 3: celebrate Israel's remarkable achievements, the Palestinian people must not be
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  Speaker 3: airbrushed out of existence. On the Crucial Voice referendum. She
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  Speaker 3: was initially in favor before the backflip to the No side,
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  Speaker 3: and only last year she was promoting the deeply flawed
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  Speaker 3: activist gender wage gap report.
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  Speaker 5: I'm pleased to see the scrutiny that is being applied
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  Speaker 5: today with the release of this data to organizations in Australia.
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  Speaker 3: My message to corporate Australia is it's not.
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  Speaker 5: Good enough to have a morning tea and cupcakes and
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  Speaker 5: pink icing.
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  Speaker 3: Now let's bring in a senior News Corp writer, Patrick
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  Speaker 3: Carly for his take on this issue. How do you
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  Speaker 3: see at Patrick? The choice was between Angus Taylor Susan Lee.
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  Speaker 3: Is this the rebirth of the Liberal Party?
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  Speaker 6: Well, we'll have to wait and see.
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  Speaker 7: Reeza.
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  Speaker 6: Look, she's got the hardest job in politics at the moment.
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  Speaker 6: She's going to seek to unite a party that managed
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  Speaker 6: to alienate so many different parts of the community only
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  Speaker 6: a couple of weeks ago with the election. The Liberal
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  Speaker 6: Party doesn't know what it is, what it's trying to be,
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  Speaker 6: and what it wants to be. And this this rebuild,
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  Speaker 6: if you want to call it, that is going to
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  Speaker 6: take months, if not years. She's going to be in charge.
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  Speaker 6: She's traditionally a moderate. You talk about backflipping, but the
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  Speaker 6: party managed to put off so many sections of the community.
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  Speaker 6: What she has to try and do is sort of
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  Speaker 6: present a party that listens to Australia and actually is
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  Speaker 6: aware of what strands care about in a way that
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  Speaker 6: it plainly did not coming into twenty twenty five. She's
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  Speaker 6: got a really tough.
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  Speaker 3: Job, she certainly does. And that job may be even
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  Speaker 3: tougher if the moderate Susan Lee as Liberal leader sees
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  Speaker 3: a split with the National Coalition because the issue of
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  Speaker 3: energy is going to be crucial. If the National Party
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  Speaker 3: walk away from their net zero commitments, that is going
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  Speaker 3: to be quite a rift in the coalition. Certainly, if
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  Speaker 3: Matt Canavan was elevated to leader, that would be happening.
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  Speaker 3: But even David a little Proud has indicated that he
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  Speaker 3: is not interested in this renewables only position. He just
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  Speaker 3: does not see it as sustainable and it's not going
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  Speaker 3: to power Australia.
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  Speaker 6: Look, I think the timeline this is probably helpful for
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  Speaker 6: somebody Susan Lee in this position. In the net zero
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  Speaker 6: twenty fifty question has sort of got muddled in the
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  Speaker 6: last few years by rising power prices and by growing recognition.
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  Speaker 6: I think that the renewables dream is unachievable without fossil fuels.
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  Speaker 6: And I mean, you've got all these sort of arguments
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  Speaker 6: going on about gas and whether we should be using
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  Speaker 6: more gas because it shut down on more coal power
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  Speaker 6: stations sooner, and you've got all these little arguments with
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  Speaker 6: their arguments. I don't think the twenty fifty question is
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  Speaker 6: sort of front of center for a lot of Australians
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  Speaker 6: at the moment.
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  Speaker 3: It isn't. But we are going to see labor be
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  Speaker 3: even bolder in their emission targets. There's a huge push
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  Speaker 3: from within labor, the very powerful climate lobby groups within
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  Speaker 3: Labor are wanting to see them take a bolder position
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  Speaker 3: really utilize this enormous election landslide. Can energy be the
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  Speaker 3: debate point between the two parties? Because we had just
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  Speaker 3: an election where many people wondered what the difference was
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  Speaker 3: between the two parties. Could it be energy?
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  Speaker 6: Look Ted O'Brien, who is Susan Lee's deputy, he was
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  Speaker 6: the nuclear guy for the party.
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  Speaker 3: He had listed a word about nuclear throughout the campaign
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  Speaker 3: that was so.
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  Speaker 6: Terrified it fell apart. That whole sort of notion of
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  Speaker 6: nuclear as an alternative really did fall by the wayside,
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  Speaker 6: didn't it. Throughout? Look, I think power bills are the
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  Speaker 6: big question here. Are they going to keep going up?
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  Speaker 6: Is it going to be because of renewable energy targets
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  Speaker 6: that are unachievable. Look, the hip pocket drives a lot
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  Speaker 6: more in terms of a voter sentiment than does saving
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  Speaker 6: the world. The abstraction of saving the world, I think,
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  Speaker 6: and certain those power prices really hurting people. I think
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  Speaker 6: how those come down will have a huge bearing on
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  Speaker 6: targets and thoughts.
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  Speaker 3: But that argument really probably because we don't have a
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  Speaker 3: coalition government that is strong enough to make these arguments.
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  Speaker 3: And I've argued if they actually went to the election
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  Speaker 3: campaign made it a referendum about energy policy, they would
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  Speaker 3: have done a lot better. But if people aren't connecting
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  Speaker 3: the spend on renewables with the increase in their energy bills,
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  Speaker 3: because they keep hearing this nonsense about renewables are the
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  Speaker 3: cheapest form of energy, so many think if you invest
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  Speaker 3: more in renewables, your bills would be lower, despite the experience.
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  Speaker 3: Now today, the new Labor Ministry was officially sworn into
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  Speaker 3: office and Anthony Albernizi has demoted factional rival Tania Plyversex,
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  Speaker 3: sending her down the ladder from Environment Minister to Social
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  Speaker 3: Services Minister. He promoted a close ally Senator Murray Watt
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  Speaker 3: tox former position in order to finalize Labour's so called
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  Speaker 3: nature positive reforms. And we've also got a decision on
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  Speaker 3: the thirty four billion dollar Northwest Shelf gas project happening. Patrick,
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  Speaker 3: what do you make of this cabinet? It looks strong.
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  Speaker 3: It's people who are experienced. He's got a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people very loyal to him. It seems like it's going
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  Speaker 3: to be a very disciplined outfit.
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  Speaker 6: Look, Murray, well it's got some challenges walking into that
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  Speaker 6: environment role. He's going to make a decision on the
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  Speaker 6: Northwest Shelf, I think in the next few weeks, and
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  Speaker 6: that's a massive one. Whatever he decides on that, and
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  Speaker 6: whatever government goes with is going to upset a lot
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  Speaker 6: of people because it is so pitched that battle. Look,
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  Speaker 6: it's not surprising that Tanya Plupisek is one of the
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  Speaker 6: big losers, if you like, of the election.
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  Speaker 3: In an internal sense.
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  Speaker 6: She's been demoted and I think look Elbow at the
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  Speaker 6: moment is in a position where he can promote and
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  Speaker 6: demote as he sees fit. He has such a mandate
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  Speaker 6: given the election result, it'll be interesting to see how
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  Speaker 6: those ministers go. But it was all about factional wrangling
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  Speaker 6: and all the rest, which I find it's not necessarily
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  Speaker 6: merit based, which I find disappointing. I mean, these people
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  Speaker 6: are very important that you should have the best person
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  Speaker 6: in each of the best jobs.
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  Speaker 3: Well, talking about merit, there's now talk of quotas being
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  Speaker 3: introduced for the Liberals. Certainly Susan Lee in the past
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  Speaker 3: has promoted quotas gendots. It's funny to be Patrick, we
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  Speaker 3: never talk about other quotas. If you really want to
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  Speaker 3: have a parliament that's representative of the community, you can't
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  Speaker 3: just stop a gender quotas. You would have to have
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  Speaker 3: all sorts of other categories. And we've got what one
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  Speaker 3: point four million Chinese Australians. They're certainly not reflected in
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  Speaker 3: the Parliament and every other innicity and minority group.
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  Speaker 6: Look, I think the Liberals have a massive issue with
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  Speaker 6: women at the moment, putting aside quotas. I don't know
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  Speaker 6: any woman under the age of forty who voted Liberal
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  Speaker 6: to be honest, they did not appeal on any level.
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  Speaker 6: That is a big problem for the Liberal Party.
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  Speaker 3: So I was electing through a quotus is no females going.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think quotas are the way to go, but
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  Speaker 6: it did not feel like a party that represented women's
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  Speaker 6: best interests, especially with the work from home staff. Early
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  Speaker 6: on in that campaign they alienated working mums, working women
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  Speaker 6: in a way that really cost them deeply. So I
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  Speaker 6: don't think quotas are the answer. I agree with you
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  Speaker 6: on that, but they do need to be seen to
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  Speaker 6: be making moves towards appealing to women.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I think women will gravitate towards strong
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  Speaker 3: policies like men do. Maybe not in the same numbers
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  Speaker 3: of men, but he actually give them something they vote for.
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  Speaker 3: As we saw with the Voice, they will back you.
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  Speaker 3: Now let's go to the UK briefly, where Labor Party
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  Speaker 3: there has done a massive u turn on a number
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  Speaker 3: of issues, including the country's open borders approach. It seems
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  Speaker 3: that the threat from Nigel Faraja's Reform Party has British
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  Speaker 3: Prime Minister Keir Starma talking like Donald Trump. Look at
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  Speaker 3: what he posted on XCA. He said, if you want
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  Speaker 3: to live in the UK, you should speak English. That's
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  Speaker 3: common sense. So he's insisting on raising English language requirements
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  Speaker 3: and he also posted this. He said, the Tories lost
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  Speaker 3: control of our borders and let net migrations saw to
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  Speaker 3: record levels, undercutting hard working Brits. I won't stand for it.
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  Speaker 3: I promised to restore control and cut migration and I'm
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  Speaker 3: delivering with tough new measures British workers. I've got your back. Patrick.
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  Speaker 3: This is quite astonishing. You got the labor leader in
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  Speaker 3: the UK, someone who was seen as far left by many.
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  Speaker 3: He seems to be more conservative, more right wing than
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  Speaker 3: the Liberal leader in Australia right now.
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  Speaker 6: Look as he was posting those I think the Sun
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  Speaker 6: newspaper in London was reporting that five hundred people had
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  Speaker 6: crossed the English Channel that day, as he was actually
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  Speaker 6: talking tough. And I think there's been twelve thousand people
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  Speaker 6: crossing English Channel in small boats this year, landing in
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  Speaker 6: England seeking refuge and a new life. It's all everyone
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  Speaker 6: to talk tough, but it sounds very little too late,
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  Speaker 6: doesn't it.
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  Speaker 7: Really it.
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  Speaker 3: Does. And it's a matter of whether you actually think
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  Speaker 3: there's any substance behind that retrick, because you don't feel
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  Speaker 3: like labor actually believe any of this. Obviously, reform has brilliantly.
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  Speaker 3: They're doing amazingly in the polls. There was a recent
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  Speaker 3: local elections and by elections where they did very well,
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  Speaker 3: So I think this is a reaction to that. And
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  Speaker 3: isn't it funny that we were told that Trumpian politics
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  Speaker 3: turned off Australian voters when we had a very smaller
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  Speaker 3: liberal policy platform, and you've got Nigel Farage embracing Trumpian politics.
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  Speaker 3: I'm winning in the UK. Now before you go, I've
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  Speaker 3: got an example of the far left attacking itself from within,
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  Speaker 3: this time involving radical feminist influences Clementine Ford and Abby Chatfield,
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  Speaker 3: who have been attacking each other on social media since
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  Speaker 3: late last week. Over the weekend, it all got a
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  Speaker 3: bit too much for Abby Chatfield.
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  Speaker 2: Please stop dehumanizing me.
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  Speaker 3: Please.
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  Speaker 8: You can criticize my content, you can criticize my work,
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  Speaker 8: just I'm begging you to stop lying about my intentions.
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  Speaker 2: I stop saying that I had a personality.
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  Speaker 7: You don't know me.
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  Speaker 3: I just wanted to stop now. The arouse stem from
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  Speaker 3: an article Ford wrote on her blog last week lashing
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  Speaker 3: Chatfield for profiting from the performance of being politically engaged
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  Speaker 3: and presenting herself as a voice of feminists and political authority.
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  Speaker 3: Called called a shallow and so she platformed genocide supporters.
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  Speaker 3: I think she's referring there to Abby Chatfield's interview with
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  Speaker 3: Anthony Alban. Easy Ford then took to other social media
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  Speaker 3: platforms to call Abby Chatfield fake as well as selfish
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  Speaker 3: and ego centric. Patrick, I'll be covering this in more detail.
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  Speaker 3: He left is losing it. But what do you make
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  Speaker 3: of this meltdown? You've got leftist feminist versus leftist feminist.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you've got grand standards colliding with grand standards, don't you.
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  Speaker 6: And I mean I think that language platforming genocide.
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  Speaker 3: Supporters to this hyperbolic that sort of shows.
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  Speaker 6: You where this debate is taking place.
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  Speaker 9: It's all about.
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  Speaker 6: People who are Look, it's about they're playing the man,
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  Speaker 6: I would say, but that's not the right way putting
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  Speaker 6: it instead of playing the issues. Look, they're actually fighting
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  Speaker 6: each other. It's sort of entertaining and quite challenging for
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  Speaker 6: the rest of us. We look at this and what
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  Speaker 6: the hell are you talking?
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  Speaker 3: Well, those young female voters you were talking about, that's
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  Speaker 3: the primary audience. Here and if that's the sort of
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  Speaker 3: politics they're being fed you can kind of understand their
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  Speaker 3: voting passions at Patrick Carline, Thanks for your time tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Joining me now is Women's Forum Australia's head of advocacy,
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  Speaker 3: Stephanie Bastian. Stephanie will start with Susan Lee, interested in
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  Speaker 3: your reaction to her being elevated at two Liberal leadership.
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  Speaker 3: She is the first woman to ever lead the Liberals,
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  Speaker 3: but she has a long history of either being on
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  Speaker 3: the fence or being on the wrong side of major
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  Speaker 3: debate when it comes to the gender issue. Is she
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  Speaker 3: an advocate for women's rights or has she been captured
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  Speaker 3: by the gender idea logues.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's no indication that she's been captured by the
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  Speaker 1: gender idea logs. But having said that, she's been relatively silent.
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  Speaker 3: On the issues.
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  Speaker 1: She's made no moves to defend women's sex based rights
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  Speaker 1: on every front. She talks a lot about gender and
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  Speaker 1: equality in the workplace, but as far as women and
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  Speaker 1: their right to save sports and change rooms and domestic
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  Speaker 1: balance shelters, she's been relatively silent. I think it's really
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  Speaker 1: important that the Liberal Party doesn't go down the pathway
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  Speaker 1: of quotas. The problem with quotas is that it'll pre
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  Speaker 1: select the right type of woman. The people that are
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  Speaker 1: pushing for quotas have said very little about the women
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  Speaker 1: who are defending women's sex based rights, including the treatment
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  Speaker 1: of moiradeeming, cath thieves, and many others. So I hope
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  Speaker 1: that they avoid that minefield because I think it'll lead
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  Speaker 1: to the destruction of democracy in the Liberal Party.
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  Speaker 3: Or what would happen if we did have a Liberal
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  Speaker 3: party that was even more similar in its character and
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  Speaker 3: its policies to labor. Would that make them more electable?
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  Speaker 3: Are we really going to have the tyranny of group think?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it'll make them electable at all.
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  Speaker 3: What will make them.
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  Speaker 1: Electable is having policies tackling difficult policies that the public
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  Speaker 1: want to vote for. This election was a referendum on
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  Speaker 1: the cost of living and the way that the debates
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  Speaker 1: went and where the chips fell as they decided that
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  Speaker 1: Albanezi with his five to eight grand cuts on hex
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  Speaker 1: debt and the tax of the tax cuts won the day.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that they actually need to put their
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  Speaker 1: heads together and come up with genuine policies. I mean
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  Speaker 1: Susan was the Deputy leader when they came out with
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  Speaker 1: the work from home policy.
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  Speaker 3: Shouldn't do anything to stop it.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, that policy was drafted by a former senior
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  Speaker 1: Cabinet minister, So having more women there isn't necessarily going
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  Speaker 1: to bring in more female voters.
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  Speaker 3: Or any voters across the board. You actually need good policy. Yep,
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  Speaker 3: it's all about the policies. Now. Let's talk about a
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  Speaker 3: case out of South Australia. Thirteen year old transgender student
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  Speaker 3: that is, a male who claims to be female has
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  Speaker 3: prompted outrage from parents at a private Catholic school in
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  Speaker 3: South Australia after breaking a number of records by huge
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  Speaker 3: margin Stephanie competing in the girls' events at recent sports competitions.
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  Speaker 3: What else can you tell me about this case?
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  Speaker 1: Well, this case has actually shed light on a range
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  Speaker 1: of very concerning issues about the policies from the Department
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  Speaker 1: of Education in South Australia and federally. More broadly, what's
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  Speaker 1: come to light is that they've said that education of
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  Speaker 1: rides the provisions in the Sex Discrimination Act to protect
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  Speaker 1: single sex sports, but under South Australian education policy that
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  Speaker 1: extends to change rooms and bathrooms. Now, this is a
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  Speaker 1: K to year twelve school, so there is the likelihood
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  Speaker 1: there is the risk that there will be situations where
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  Speaker 1: at all school events you'll have senior male men who
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  Speaker 1: are identifying as female students sharing change rooms and bathrooms
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  Speaker 1: with little prep girls. Certainly in a setting where it's
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  Speaker 1: K to year six in that primary campus, twelve year
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  Speaker 1: old boys in year six with preppees. There's a huge
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  Speaker 1: safeguarding issue here, and I think Peter mal Anawskis needs
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  Speaker 1: to come out and explain why this is happening and
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  Speaker 1: what they're going to do to address the issues of
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  Speaker 1: safety for these young children.
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  Speaker 3: And also there has to be some accountability because I
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  Speaker 3: hear from so many parents who've got similar issues, not
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  Speaker 3: just around sport, but just ale bodies in female spaces
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  Speaker 3: and all sorts of indoctrination that they see happening in
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  Speaker 3: their children's school, and they are reluctant to bringing it
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  Speaker 3: forward because they fear a backlash against their child or
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  Speaker 3: their family. They don't want to have that drama. And
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  Speaker 3: I think this is again an issue that so many
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  Speaker 3: parents are grappling with Stephanie, but very few want to
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  Speaker 3: make an official complaint because that comes with all sorts
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  Speaker 3: of consequences.
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  Speaker 1: It certainly does. But more and more are coming out.
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  Speaker 1: I've noticed since Caroline Marx's documentary on sport last year
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: there has been an increase, whether it was netball in Victoria.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Now the parents are pushing back. This trans student broke
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: all the records last year and again this year and
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: now they're speaking out. So there is certainly a move
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: to speak out more. I'm also very encouraged that our
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: newest female senator in South Australia, Layer b Life, put
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: a press release out. She replaced Simon Birmingham when he
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: retired last year, and she criticized the comments of the
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Education Minister in South Australia who defended the inclusion saying
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: it was more about sport and the inclusion of individuals
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: than anything else. And she said, well, what about the
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: expense of you at the expense of the girls losing
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: out here? And I'm paraphrasing her there. So I think
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: that there is more and more people are going to
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: talk back. I've had people reach out since I posted
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: about it online from other schools, particularly Catholic schools where
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: this is going on. So I think also the Education
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Office needs to start answering some questions about what they're
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: allowing in their schools.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Too surprising, it's happening at Catholic schools before you go.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: The BBC has released a new series called I Kissed
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: a Boy, which is meant to be about two gay men,
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: except the actor playing one of them is actually a
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: transidentified female. The LGB Alliance UK has said that by
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: doing this, they are telling young gay men watching the
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: show that they must be attracted to women who are
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: pretending to be male. That this is regressive, insulting and
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: homophobic in the extreme. Steph, what's your reaction to that,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: because I do see this from many transactivists where they say,
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: if you're a man and you're not attracted to a
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: trans woman who is a man identifying as a woman,
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: then well you're being bigoted. You're almost obliged to be
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: attracted to somebody who's the opposite gender to who you
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: would normally be attracted to.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Yes, I think it's actually disturbing that the BBC are
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: playing into this narrative that you are engaging in some
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: sort of discrimination if you have a genital preference, which
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: is what they call it. And I think it's quite
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: dangerous and it sends a very bad message to young
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: people who are working through themselves and sorting it out.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: They shouldn't have this extra layer of guilt, because Trans writes,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: activists want to be over the head and say you
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: can't choose you know who you're attracted to.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Stephanie Bastian, thank you so much for your time. Tonight
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: still to come. A lefty is a losing it Plus
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: a major development in the China US trade Wark Kosher
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Gator has the latest. You're watching the Reader Panny Show,
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: and it's time for lefties losing it And let's check
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: in with this charming lass. You know she doesn't have
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: to declare her politics. You know precisely how she votes.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I can help you talk to somebody he didn't you can?
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: I please call you an ambulance. I do hope that
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: is satire, but I think just another example of a
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: lefty losing it. Now to the worst vice president we've
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: had here is Kamala Harris being Kamala Harris.
• 23:10
  Speaker 10: And I was just telling somebody recently who did not
• 23:13
  Speaker 10: we perform free to be you and me? When I
• 23:17
  Speaker 10: sang about my friend William who's five years old and
• 23:21
  Speaker 10: wanted adult huggin hole.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: I can sing the whole thing. She always seems a
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: little over refreshed, and we should know. Today is a
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: special dates, the anniversary of this great speech. The iconic
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Coconut Tree speech was shared by Kamala with the world.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: It was a gift really two years ago. How time
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: flies when you're unburdened by what has been.
• 23:51
  Speaker 10: My mother used to she would give us a hard
• 23:53
  Speaker 10: time sometimes and she would say to us, I don't
• 23:56
  Speaker 10: know what's wrong with you, young people. You think you
• 23:59
  Speaker 10: just fell out of a coconut tree. You exists in
• 24:04
  Speaker 10: the context.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Now, this is a delicious little clash. Here is Candice
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Owen's owning Jason Lee. Let's not complete it with being black.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Otherwise you would have to defend well, there's no there's
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: no defending crazy. That's crazy because she was a white
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: woman that says she was black.
• 24:24
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's a man saying if you're gonna if you're
• 24:27
  Speaker 10: gonna say that a man can just be a woman.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Why can't reach dollars or just be black? You gotta
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: be consistent because she's white. Okay, because it's a man.
• 24:35
  Speaker 11: No, but.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: I get it. I'm right I'm right. No, I don't agree,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: and this is not a matter of right or wrong.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: But let me let me tell you why isn't Rachel
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: dollars or black because she's a white woman. Okay, because
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: it's a male or it's a female. You know, now,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: to some alsie lefty losing it actually evolving some looney
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: left versus looney left hate and hyperbole. Yes, the feral
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: left is turning on each other with Clementine Ford, who
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: has in the past posted racial abuse about me and
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: misogynistic abuse about other female conservatives. Kind of weird for
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: a supposed women's rights campaign, I wouldn't you think. Well,
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: she's now turned her attention on fellow far left feminist
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: simpleton Abby Chatfield, who, when not promoting butt plugs, is
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: slamming anything to the right of Joseph Stalin. Remember her
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: very sane, very measured reaction when Donald Trump won in
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: a landslide.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: If you're a woman in Australia and you think the
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: US selection doesn't affect us, just know they now have
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: permission to be outwardly sexist.
• 25:43
  Speaker 12: And support a rapist.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Just know that in your heart. No, but they now
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: have permission.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: They now think they are the majority, and they're so
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: uneducated that they think that because they're the majority, they
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: are right. They now have permission to be racist, transfer
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: they've mission to laugh about reproductive health and reproductive freedom.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Well, if you can believe it, she's more unhinged now
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: than back then because her fellow leftist feminist mad Greenie
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Clementine Ford has criticized her for being shallow and profiting
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: from the performance of being politically engaged and presenting herself
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: as a voice of feminist and political authority. That's a
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: direct quote, strong words, and that had Abby in an
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: almighty meltdown. This is worse than when Trump won.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Stop lying about my character and my intentions. I get
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: it enough from Please stop dehumanizing me.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Please.
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: You can criticize my content, you can criticize my work,
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: as I'm begging you to stop lying about my intentions.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I stop saying that I had a person now disorder.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: You don't know me.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: This is so triggering. I just wanted to stop.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, no personality disorder there, and yes you must not
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: dehumanize those you disagree with. Abby, What good advice if
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: only you thought of that when you said conservative voters
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: have no empathy and that it's a good thing that
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: they're supposedly dying out.
• 27:25
  Speaker 12: You spoke to Adam Bandt today on the radio show
• 27:28
  Speaker 12: Thank You, Adam, loved you, love talking to you, And
• 27:31
  Speaker 12: I really am thinking that or hoping that in the
• 27:36
  Speaker 12: next like ten to fifteen years, as people who are
• 27:39
  Speaker 12: voting for Liberal Party literally die out and also like metaphorically.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Die out, literally die out, literally and metaphorically pretty dehumanizing,
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: I would have thought. But let's get back to this
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: left b left inspired meltdown, because of course you're the victims.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: The victim.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Also, please, when I post about Palestine, stop using that
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: as a reason to cretect me more and say that
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I'm performative or whatever. Please stop discouraging me from posting
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: about Gaza.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: It isn't working.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: You're discouraging others, and you're encouraging trolling of me. Please,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Like I, I'm just trying to do what I can
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: to help.
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: Like I just I don't understand why she's so out
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: of it on proving that I'm awful.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: I don't get it.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Ah, this pity party did not stop there, and the
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: heart of it is the accusation from Abby chat Phil
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: that Clementine Ford is sending her leftist trolls after her.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: You know something leftists always do, but though they love
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: to dish it out, they're not so good at taking it.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Because I'm aware now of someone's spreading malicious lives about
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: me again and again and again and again and again,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: because she claims to throw my intentions on everything, it's
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: it's I'm scared of her. Please stop, Clementine. I am
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: begging you to stop. You don't know me at all.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: You're a stranger. I deal with so much every single day.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Oh love, you should see what a conservative woman with
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: a platform deals with every single day, including from the
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: likes of you and Clementine Ford and your ill informed
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: hate field, hordes of lifting losers. We don't go crying
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: about it. And I say this genuinely. If it's affecting
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: your mental health, then turn off your phone, log off,
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: go for a walk. Don't do this.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I deal with insults every single day. I do not
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: need it from you, because you know that when you
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: say it, you validated people on the left, and you
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: are encouraging control. You are risking my safety, and you
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: are faking my mental health. Please stop.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Yes, abuse from the left is another level avvy. But
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: let's not pretend you're not doing to Clementine Ford precisely
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: what she's done to you, and that is sending your
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: ill informed, bio filled fans to troll her. Now, the
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: fallout from Bernie Sanders disastrous interview with Fox News is
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: Brett Bauer continues, you know the one where the global
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: warming hysteric and socialists defended his use of private jets.
• 30:36
  Speaker 11: The only way you can get around to talk to
• 30:38
  Speaker 11: thirty thousand people. I think I'm going to be sitting
• 30:40
  Speaker 11: on a wedding line at United waiting. You know what,
• 30:43
  Speaker 11: thirty thousand people are waiting. That's the only way you
• 30:45
  Speaker 11: can get around. No apologies for that. That's what campaign
• 30:48
  Speaker 11: travel is about. We've done it in the past, We're
• 30:50
  Speaker 11: going to do it in the future.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Only problem is you're not in campaign mode. There's no election, Bernie,
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: and you're not the leader of the Democrats or the candidate.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: You can line up and united with the rest of them,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: and you know you've gone and stuffed up when even
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: CNN is mocking you tell me what the moment was
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: in that answer that you thought, oh, this.
• 31:10
  Speaker 13: Is going wrong. The United thing, you know, because we
• 31:13
  Speaker 13: all like, you know, you're a man of the people.
• 31:15
  Speaker 13: How dare I have to be with the people?
• 31:17
  Speaker 11: Right?
• 31:17
  Speaker 13: That's what Look, it's a cheap question. It's a smart
• 31:20
  Speaker 13: alecky question. So it wasn't a serious question.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: It was kind of trolley.
• 31:23
  Speaker 13: But his answer was terrible, Like you can't defend this answer. Hey, buddy,
• 31:27
  Speaker 13: we all have to stand in line.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: We all have to do this.
• 31:29
  Speaker 13: Even if you have one key privileges, you're still standing
• 31:33
  Speaker 13: in line.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: You still have to do this. You got to go
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: through security. Definitely came across as like I'm not going
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: to see Oh, Chuck Todd. He can't help himself. He
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: has to be a clown. How was that a trolley question?
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: A socialist taking private jets across the country should not
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: be held to account. Joining me now for more on
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: this is Skyneyese contributor Kosher Gata Kosher. That was not
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: a good performance from Bernie. And what can and pain
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: is he talking about? I mean, what sort of delusional
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: situation as he got himself into.
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: The sweet addiction of private air travel, it's hard to
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: give up. He's never going to give it up. You know,
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: we know we're all used to the hypocrisy with the
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: climate hysterics, as you say, whether it's him or Megan Marko,
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: Prince Harry al Gore Zogi, or the hypocrisy of socialists
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: like AOC and him. They just love the trappings of
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: capitalism and the confident of private air.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: So we know that.
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: But I think the worst part for him was when
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: you let the mask slip and show the superiority complex, like,
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: you know, why should I stand in line with the
• 32:35
  Speaker 7: little people? So and so. Then even Chuck Tad, even
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: though he tried to throw a lifeline by criticizing the
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: questioner rat Bear, he had to admit it, as you say,
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: and he let the mask slip, and we're all here
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: to see it.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: That's it, and it's United. If he's too good for
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: United it's not like he's getting on Spirit airlines. Not
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: that I would like to see now a cease fire
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: of sorts in the tariff flaws between the United States
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: and China. They have a great to a ninety day
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: truce and under this new agreement, the US will drop
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: it's one hundred and forty five percent tariff on Chinese
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: goods to thirty percent, while China is going to drop
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: its one hundred and twenty five percent tariff to just
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: ten percent. This is quite the development kosher.
• 33:18
  Speaker 7: It is now. It is a stop gap measure because
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: it's just a ninety day plause, not a resolution, So
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: we've got a lot of wood to chop. But it's
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: certainly a climb down back down from one hundred and
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: forty five plus percent. The thirty percent on China is
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: higher than historical averages, which used to be about three
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: percent pre Trump. In his first term he got about
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: nineteen percent, so it's tougher than that. But he's tying
• 33:37
  Speaker 7: it up with fentanyl and getting China to address the
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: fentinel crisis in some way, which is this whole China
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: wars as much about that as it is about the
• 33:44
  Speaker 7: trade deficits. So for now, on paper at least, there
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: seems to be alignment that they will do something about that.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: But we shall see. But if we want to have
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: a significant economic realignment boost American manufacturing in this reliance
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: on China, particularly in so many crucial supply chains, it
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: can't be this. It has to be something that is
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: more impactful long terms. So do you still think that's
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: going to happen, or are we going to end up
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: with something similar to this as the long term.
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: It's a bigment question because there's six hundred billion in
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: trade between the two countries and he's trying to normalize
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: that and equalize that. I think we'll have to run
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: the numbers on if the thirty percent holds and some
• 34:26
  Speaker 7: of the supply chains recalibrate to Vietnam and other markets,
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: like what does that do? But I think you're right
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: that on the surface, to some people it does feel
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: like a little bit of a leaptown compared to, you know,
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: where the start was. But it could be that once
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: you run the numbers and some of those recalibrations happen,
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: it's moving the needle in the right direction, even if
• 34:41
  Speaker 7: it's not a full seating grease.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: And isn't it funny all those Democrats who are obsessed
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: about the share market fluctuations and the drops, they're not
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: so obsessed now, and the share market seems to be
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: doing quite well now to some wonderful news with the
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: release of Israeli American Eden Alexander. The twenty one year
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: old was held hostage by her mass for more than
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: nineteen months Kosher. The release is seen as a good
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: will gesture towards the Trump administration in the hopes of
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: laying the groundwork for a new ceasefire deal. How do
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: you think that's going to work, because we are hearing
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: also about a rift between Nesshi Yahoo and the Trump administration.
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: Also a lot of wood to chop there. I think
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: it is being pitched as that he was a last
• 35:46
  Speaker 7: American hostage that was held. To Young's hopeworming footage, it
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: was fashioned to have him released before a Trump's upcoming
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: trip to the Middle East. That was done deliberately, so
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: it's like a good backdrop on the eve of that. However,
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: there is this rift. There's also a rift in the
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: Republican Party that's getting deeper about the US's position with
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: respect to Israel. And there are those who believe, you know,
• 36:07
  Speaker 7: it's their strongest ally and nothing should be stopping how
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: much a US gives to support them and this quest
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: and self preservation and sovereignty. There is another part of
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: the base that says, you know, you do what you
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: need to do, but we're not going to keep expending
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: military power, financial power, and even diplomatic power to support Israel.
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: And that faction seems to be ascendant and Trump is
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: really walking a tight rope in that, and then you
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: overlay on that the personality clashes supposedly between him and
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: that and Yahoo, it's Dacey, But I do think it's
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: is stuff in the right direction.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we are are at a fascinating point because there's
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: so many factors at play in Iran is of course
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: part of that equation, and Iran's exiled Crown Prince, Reza Pavlavias,
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: slammed Joe Biden and said that Donald Trump's pressure is
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: the best chance of regime change in Iran. He told
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: The New York Posts that Biden's reversal of Trump's sanctions
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: on Tehran emboldened the Islamus leadership. He said, the Iranian
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: people are trying to send this clear message to the
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: outside world that if you want a true partner in peace,
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: it is us who represent the alternative, not this regime
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: which has taken our country hostage in the first place
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: forty six years ago and continues to do that. And
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: it's not just take an Iran hostage, as we've discussed
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: so many times, Kosher, it's the number one sponsor of
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: terrorism in the region, and you can't really do anything
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: meaningful and long term about her mask or whatever's going
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: to pop up after her mask without addressing the Iranian issue.
• 37:43
  Speaker 7: And he the exiled prince, was the eldest son of
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: the last Shavaran before the revolution, so he has important
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: symbolic power of voice in this and that he represents
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: that point that the people were very moderate and don't
• 37:55
  Speaker 7: want this regime that's been presiding over them. It's also
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: very difficult to top though, because as he said, Biden
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: emboldened them. That's one thing. Many argue that even George Bush,
• 38:05
  Speaker 7: with the war, there are more embolden them because it
• 38:08
  Speaker 7: created this imbalance and allowed Iran to seep out into
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: the stop gate. At least that Iraq in some way,
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: not perfectly, but was putting against them. So there's many
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: things over here. Again, the US is very very wary
• 38:19
  Speaker 7: of getting involved in any way. I think Trump's favorite
• 38:22
  Speaker 7: mechanism is economic pressure and sanctions and things like that,
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  Speaker 7: so I do expect to see him go hard on that.
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  Speaker 7: But how much that will bring to bear remains to be seen,
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: because as the years take by, this regime is getting
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: more and more powerful, closer to nuclear weapons, and the picture.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Just gets striccier and getting closer to China and Russia.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: It is a real balancing act for Trump, in particular
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  Speaker 3: because he was elected on a landslide on America First policies.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: They do not want to be involved in every war
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: around the world, so there isn't an appetite to get
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: involved in this. But they also have to acknowledge how
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: destabilizing Irani and as it's becoming more emboldened, particularly with
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: its nuclear program. How does he sell this to the
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Republican base if he does need to have some sort
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: of involvement and some sort of investment in regime.
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  Speaker 7: Change, It's a tough one. And regime change is another thing.
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  Speaker 7: It's sort of become a dirty word in the US
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  Speaker 7: because US fingerprints are all over many regime changes or
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: Vertley and Corvertley in the last half century. So I
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: think that's a tough one to the extent that he
• 39:26
  Speaker 7: can describe it as it is stabilizing and that has
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: repercussions back to things at home as simple as gas
• 39:32
  Speaker 7: process for instance. Given their role there, or terrorism or
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: security or things like that, then maybe there's a way
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: in there. But just a straight up regime changer, it's
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: going to be a tough one.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Now to the Trump administration's war against big Farma. I'll
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: have more on this after the break, but kosher. At
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: its heart, this policy is to ensure these multi billion
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: dollar companies are not price gouging in the US and
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: charging exorbitant prices in the US compared to what they
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: charge elsewhere in the world. RFK Junior was there to
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: trumpet this policy.
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  Speaker 4: He can't be bought, unlike most of the politicians in
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: this country, and he is standing here for the American people.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what you know. There's writers Lord Elizabeth
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: Warren or Robert Reich or saying that President Trump is
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: on this side of the olic arcs. There has never
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: been a president more willing to stand up to the
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: olck arks than President Donald Trump. And I'm very, very
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: proud of you, mister President.
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  Speaker 3: He has a point there, Kohar. Trump cannot be bought.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Is the only president who's net worth actually dropped during
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: his presidency. And I guess that's one of the perks
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: of biling a billionaire.
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  Speaker 7: That's definitely one of his superpowers. As the kids say,
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: because pharma is a very, very enriched and well funded industry,
• 40:55
  Speaker 7: and therefore there's a lot of lobbying dollars it flows
• 40:58
  Speaker 7: into Washington, and that's made it difficult nut to crack,
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  Speaker 7: and you know he's going to that. The other thing, too,
• 41:04
  Speaker 7: is this strikes right at the heart of Trump's worldview,
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  Speaker 7: which is the US has been ripped off by other
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: countries for so long as it relates to trade deficits
• 41:11
  Speaker 7: and tariffs, as it relates to underwriting security for the
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: whole world. And this is a big pillar the drugs,
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: because the US subsidizes drug R and D for the
• 41:19
  Speaker 7: whole world. All the innovation, all the patents that's very
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: expensive to attain, happen there. And then just the way
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: that the global markets ras structure and export laws and
• 41:26
  Speaker 7: all of that, they sell it ad dirt. Cheap crisis
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: generics can become available in other countries whereas the US
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: consumer has to pay three to ten times as much.
• 41:35
  Speaker 7: And that's what he's trying to undo here. But it'll
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: be challenged in court and elsewhere, so we shall see
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: how far it gets.
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  Speaker 3: It's incredible like they even are finding a reason to
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: complain about this policy. You would think cheaper drug prices
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: would be something that could embrace like kosher Gaia. Thanks
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: for your time. Pleasure still to come. Democrats outrage by
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: the Trump administration taking in white refugees from South Africa
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: alex dying is up next, Welcome back. Now, President Donald
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Trump is taking on Big Farmer by signing an executive
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: order to lower drug prices in the US.
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  Speaker 9: Starting today, the United States will no longer subsidize the
• 42:25
  Speaker 9: healthcare of foreign countries, which is what we were doing.
• 42:28
  Speaker 9: We're subsidizing others' healthcare, and we're no longer tolerate profiteering
• 42:33
  Speaker 9: and price gouging from Big Farmer. But again, it was
• 42:37
  Speaker 9: really the countries that forced Big Farmer to do things
• 42:41
  Speaker 9: at Frankly, I'm not sure they really felt comfortable doing.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: And in typical Trump style, you had a hilarious anecdote
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: explaining how much more Americans pay. Listen to this.
• 42:54
  Speaker 9: I mean, I'll tell you a story. Friend of mine
• 42:56
  Speaker 9: who's a business man, very very, very top guy. Most
• 43:01
  Speaker 9: of you would have heard of him. A highly neurotic,
• 43:04
  Speaker 9: brilliant businessman, seriously overweight, and he takes the fat shot drug.
• 43:13
  Speaker 7: Very successful, very rich.
• 43:15
  Speaker 9: I wouldn't even know how we would know this, but
• 43:16
  Speaker 9: because he's got comments at President, Could I ask you
• 43:19
  Speaker 9: a question. What I'm in London and I just paid
• 43:22
  Speaker 9: for this damn fat drug I take. I said, it's
• 43:25
  Speaker 9: not working, he said, He said, I just paid eighty
• 43:31
  Speaker 9: eight dollars and in New York I paid thirteen hundred dollars.
• 43:36
  Speaker 9: What the hell is going on?
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: The fat Shot? I love that. Joining me now is
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: comedian and host of Prime Time with Alex Stott. Alex
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: the fat Shot. That's what we've got to call a zamepick.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: From now on, it has to be the fat Shot.
• 43:51
  Speaker 14: No, Rita, I love that name, the fat Shot. And
• 43:54
  Speaker 14: this is a stat that I just read and I
• 43:56
  Speaker 14: cannot believe it. You know, America spends the most money
• 43:59
  Speaker 14: on diets and diet fads and GLP one drugs like ozimpic.
• 44:05
  Speaker 14: Yet Americans still have the fattest biomass of any country
• 44:09
  Speaker 14: in the world. So it's kind of insane that we
• 44:11
  Speaker 14: spend the most on diet but also or the fattest country.
• 44:17
  Speaker 14: Make that makes sense, Rita.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: It is crazy. And yet you've got Democrats, You've got
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: the usual suspects in the media who have raising objections
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: to this policy. How could you possibly be against Americans
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: paying lists for pharmaceutical drugs.
• 44:37
  Speaker 14: No, it's ridiculous Rita. And our healthcare system in America
• 44:41
  Speaker 14: is so overpriced. That's all people want. We don't want
• 44:44
  Speaker 14: free healthcare, we don't want to become Canada, but we
• 44:46
  Speaker 14: want drugs that we can afford because we have to
• 44:49
  Speaker 14: take them to live. So the idea that these companies
• 44:52
  Speaker 14: are able to price gouge it needs to stop, and
• 44:54
  Speaker 14: Donald Trump is putting an end to it. So God
• 44:57
  Speaker 14: bless Donald Trump for making a prescription pill more affordable
• 45:01
  Speaker 14: for Americans.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Now, the Trump administration is taking a small number of
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: refugees from South Africa, and rather than being congratulated for
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: this act of humanity, the administration is being attacked. Surprisingly,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: among those enraged is the activist Bishop Marianne Edgar Budd.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: You might remember her. She's the one who lectured President
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Trump over his immigration policies on his inaugration day. Well,
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: the Gateway Pundit is reporting her church is ending its
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: nearly forty year partnership with the US government to resettle
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: refugees because the Trump administration is classifying white South African
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: Afrikanas as refugees refugees that need protection. Alex No, they
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: do need protection.
• 45:50
  Speaker 14: I mean, what's happening in South Africa is absolutely horrible,
• 45:53
  Speaker 14: and so just to see these people that are part
• 45:57
  Speaker 14: of a church that are you know, their whole ad
• 46:00
  Speaker 14: is charity, it's meant to help people. But because the
• 46:03
  Speaker 14: South Africa is having to be white, it's clear why
• 46:05
  Speaker 14: they don't want to help them. They don't want to
• 46:07
  Speaker 14: help white people. So it's just a form of reverse racism.
• 46:10
  Speaker 14: I mean a lot of people want to say the
• 46:12
  Speaker 14: systemic racism doesn't exist, but I hate to break it
• 46:14
  Speaker 14: to you, it does exist. In America in the sixties,
• 46:17
  Speaker 14: it was done against black people, and this modern day
• 46:20
  Speaker 14: era it's done against white people. And it sounds crazy,
• 46:22
  Speaker 14: but that's really the world we live in. That is
• 46:25
  Speaker 14: a refugee because they are white. We have people that
• 46:28
  Speaker 14: are part of a church that are refusing to help them.
• 46:31
  Speaker 14: I mean, it doesn't get more racist than that.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: And there is just so much evidence of the way
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: they are persecuted and targeted and why they're in danger
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: in modern day South Africa. This is not some conspiracy theory.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: That's something that has been reported on widely. We've talked
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: about on this program a number of times. Now. This
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: is a little more trivial than all that, and I
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: can't get enough of it, this Bill Belichick Jordan Hudson's story.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Alex I'm among the millions just who can't get enough
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: of this twenty four year old girlfriend of the legendary
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: seventy three year old football coach. Well, she fell short
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: in the Miss Main beauty pageant, placing third, and she
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: didn't look too happy about it. Alex Well, Rita.
• 47:23
  Speaker 14: I love when you asked me about American football because
• 47:26
  Speaker 14: this is a subject that I am an expert on.
• 47:28
  Speaker 14: In Jordan Hudson, she's twenty four years old, and right
• 47:31
  Speaker 14: now they're under a lot of scrutiny because it has
• 47:34
  Speaker 14: been revealed that potentially Jordan Hudson actually met Bill Belichick
• 47:38
  Speaker 14: and she was nineteen years old, and that's where she
• 47:40
  Speaker 14: first got his autograph. Of course, the CBS interview to
• 47:43
  Speaker 14: tried to ask about that, she got flustered and basically
• 47:46
  Speaker 14: shut down the interview. Now it's also coming out that
• 47:48
  Speaker 14: there's a famous ring doorbell camera footage, Rita, if you've
• 47:51
  Speaker 14: not seen it, of Bill Belichick shirtless, and supposedly they've
• 47:55
  Speaker 14: backtracked this and they figured out that this ring doorbell
• 47:58
  Speaker 14: footage was taken at one of Jordan Hudson's properties that
• 48:01
  Speaker 14: now she's able to afford. She has like an eight
• 48:03
  Speaker 14: million dollar real estate portfolio. So all I'm saying is
• 48:07
  Speaker 14: Jordan Hudson is probably taking advantage of Bill Belichick. That
• 48:10
  Speaker 14: is probably obvious. But listen, he's in his seventies. He
• 48:13
  Speaker 14: wants to be with a young woman. I mean, you know,
• 48:15
  Speaker 14: there's a price he has to pay for that. But
• 48:17
  Speaker 14: what I'm worried about Rita. And the last thing I'll
• 48:19
  Speaker 14: say is, I don't know if he'll ever get to
• 48:20
  Speaker 14: coach a game at UNC because the University of North
• 48:23
  Speaker 14: Carolina is not okay with what's happening. And I think
• 48:26
  Speaker 14: there's a good chance that he loses his job because
• 48:28
  Speaker 14: of this.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: Well, he's destroying his legacy in this, and I hope
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: he's having a good time because it's costing him plenty
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: and more than just money. Alex Star and it's always
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: a pleasure. Thanks for your time, And that's it from May.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: Up next is Newsnight. I'll see you at eleven tomorrow Night.