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- 0:08Speaker 1: Finally, finally, finally, it is here. It is West Virginia,
- 0:16Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina. This is three guys before the game, and
- 0:19Speaker 1: it's the actual game preview for the first time this season.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Not the month that we just gave you of looking
- 0:28Speaker 1: forward to the start of the season. It's finally here.
- 0:32Speaker 2: Finally here.
- 0:33Speaker 3: This is odd. Maybe this is unconfirmed, too.
- 0:36Speaker 4: It's the first time in history I can remember There's
- 0:38Speaker 4: been 27 months between the last football game and this
- 0:40Speaker 4: football game.
- 0:41Speaker 2: I was just going to say the opposite. I think
- 0:43Speaker 2: it got here quickly. Oh, my God.
- 0:45Speaker 3: No chance.
- 0:46Speaker 4: No.
- 0:47Speaker 3: You were on an island there by yourself.
- 0:49Speaker 1: Basketball seems like it just got over. Baseball seems like
- 0:52Speaker 1: it just got over. Like if someone said the Mountaineer
- 0:54Speaker 1: football team hasn't played in the last seven years, I'd go, yeah,
- 0:56Speaker 1: it has been seven.
- 0:57Speaker 2: It's been forever. But if you follow the Mountaineers, like
- 1:00Speaker 2: basketball season, the season lasts a year and a half.
- 1:03Speaker 1: We know that.
- 1:04Speaker 2: So basketball went on forever. Then baseball went on forever.
- 1:08Speaker 2: And then after baseball ended, three days later, football was
- 1:11Speaker 2: going on. So to me, it feels like it's been
- 1:14Speaker 2: a continuum. We need a game.
- 1:16Speaker 3: I think August has been like 73 days long. Let's play.
- 1:19Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 1:20Speaker 1: I agree.
- 1:21Speaker 2: None of you guys are old. Because if your old
- 1:23Speaker 2: time goes like, oh, my gosh, another day down. How
- 1:26Speaker 2: many do I have left?
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- 2:01Speaker 1: By Jan Dills, attorneys at law, they won't take no
- 2:05Speaker 1: for an answer. Simply, it's not in their vocabulary. Don't
- 2:07Speaker 1: take it. Spreads on stats coming up. What's a deal
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- 2:26Speaker 1: provider for all Mountaineers, including you. So the reason I
- 2:31Speaker 1: said what I said at the start of the season,
- 2:34Speaker 1: the show, to get the season started, is just like
- 2:37Speaker 1: the other day, I don't know, I was listening to something.
- 2:42Speaker 1: And like it was just the reoccurrence of the same
- 2:45Speaker 1: theme over and over talking about the game, which is
- 2:49Speaker 1: fair because nothing's happened yet. And I just said, can
- 2:54Speaker 1: we just play the frickin' game so that'll give us
- 2:58Speaker 1: an entirely new feeled Of topics to jump into. By
- 3:03Speaker 1: the way, we'll be in studio Sunday early, and we'll
- 3:09Speaker 1: have a new episode, the post-recap of the Coastal Carolina
- 3:13Speaker 1: game by 1 o'clock Sunday afternoon.
- 3:17Speaker 2: But what time are we taping?
- 3:19Speaker 1: We'll discuss that internally. All right. I might need to
- 3:21Speaker 1: start just a teeny little bit earlier.
- 3:24Speaker 2: Okay.
- 3:25Speaker 1: Anyway, so that's our rundown. We've got a lot of
- 3:27Speaker 1: things going on. We're recording Thursday at noon. We start
- 3:32Speaker 1: our stuff tonight at Buffalo Wild Wings at the Suncrest
- 3:35Speaker 1: Town Center in case you're listening anytime between 3 p.m.
- 3:38Speaker 1: and 6 p.m.
- 3:39Speaker 3: Small narrow window. We're talking to a small few people
- 3:42Speaker 3: right now.
- 3:43Speaker 1: A few of you can catch it as soon as
- 3:44Speaker 1: it comes out. We'll be there. Thank you very much, Jake,
- 3:48Speaker 1: for those of you that are viewing. Buffalo Wild Wings tonight.
- 3:51Speaker 1: We've got music, WVU student athletes, Mountaineer assistant basketball coach
- 3:55Speaker 1: Johnny Estelle. He'll take his chance. At the Nerf hoop shootout.
- 4:00Speaker 1: We've got a blazing wings challenge. You're going to be
- 4:02Speaker 1: strong eating those hot wings. And then tomorrow from 4
- 4:06Speaker 1: until 10.
- 4:06Speaker 3: Real quick, tonight's 6 o'clock.
- 4:08Speaker 1: Did you say that? 6 to 7.30. Yep.
- 4:11Speaker 3: Free admission. Correct.
- 4:12Speaker 1: It's always free. We don't charge a cover. I think
- 4:15Speaker 1: it's important.
- 4:15Speaker 4: Today's day and age, I think it's important to say
- 4:17Speaker 4: that each time.
- 4:18Speaker 1: People are charging to get into stuff.
- 4:19Speaker 3: I think they're charging for a lot of things. Really?
- 4:21Speaker 3: Free admission for this event.
- 4:24Speaker 1: We should be like everyone else nowadays. Hold our hand
- 4:26Speaker 1: up and say tips. Can you give us a tip?
- 4:28Speaker 1: Can you give us a tip?
- 4:28Speaker 2: Boy, and now, look, I tend to be an over-tipper. Really?
- 4:32Speaker 1: That's a stunner.
- 4:34Speaker 2: Well, over-tipper for service, but now you're somewhere and somebody
- 4:38Speaker 2: hands you something and you're paying with your credit card
- 4:40Speaker 2: like 20%, 25%? Like, excuse me?
- 4:43Speaker 1: I saw some crap yesterday where it started at 22%.
- 4:45Speaker 1: That was the start tip at 22%. I have no
- 4:50Speaker 1: problem tipping if I get that, if you give me
- 4:51Speaker 1: some unbelievable. Anyway, we digress, which is for the first time.
- 4:55Speaker 3: Save that for next July.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Yeah. We'll get into that. So I do think this.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Because of the early start to the football game Saturday,
- 5:03Speaker 1: the majority of the funness will be at the food
- 5:07Speaker 1: court Friday. Well, now.
- 5:09Speaker 3: But we'd be happy to see you Saturday morning.
- 5:12Speaker 1: There's no question.
- 5:12Speaker 3: People come through.
- 5:13Speaker 1: I understand that. I get it. I'm just saying.
- 5:16Speaker 4: A lot of new things at Daniel's to see on Saturday.
- 5:18Speaker 4: Don't discount Saturday.
- 5:20Speaker 1: Can you do this for me as well, as Bud's
- 5:23Speaker 1: on this program? If you are coming to the food court,
- 5:27Speaker 1: Do us a favor, if possible, don't park at Daniels
- 5:33Speaker 1: unless you're purchasing something from Daniels because we have to
- 5:37Speaker 1: be fair to Phil so that his parking lot isn't
- 5:42Speaker 1: just full of guys or girls that aren't doing commerce.
- 5:47Speaker 1: So just park somewhere else and then just walk on over.
- 5:51Speaker 1: That's the best way to go to the food court
- 5:52Speaker 1: is to walk on over. It's a good entrance point.
- 5:55Speaker 1: By the way, new pavement.
- 5:56Speaker 4: Well, that's what I was going to say. We need
- 5:57Speaker 4: to help out Phil here because he's gone above and beyond.
- 6:00Speaker 4: Not only is he giving us the space to do this,
- 6:02Speaker 4: fresh new paving.
- 6:04Speaker 3: Out in front.
- 6:05Speaker 1: And a new facade on the building.
- 6:06Speaker 4: Might see if Phil can be contracted out to work
- 6:09Speaker 4: for the state roads there, the county roads, city roads,
- 6:12Speaker 4: whoever does it, whoever's in charge of it, maybe.
- 6:14Speaker 3: Get some stuff done because Phil got his area paved.
- 6:16Speaker 4: Right.
- 6:17Speaker 2: It's beautiful. Put him in charge. Well, Phil gets things done.
- 6:21Speaker 1: All right. Let's jump into the, we've got Hoppy's obvious
- 6:24Speaker 1: observations in a second, but let me just tell you this.
- 6:27Speaker 2: Oh, you got your charts. Nice.
- 6:28Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. We're ready to go. This depth chart bull
- 6:34Speaker 1: crap is some bull crap.
- 6:36Speaker 2: By Rich?
- 6:38Speaker 1: No. Coastal started it. They started it. Wouldn't release a
- 6:42Speaker 1: depth chart. Weren't going to release. Didn't release their game
- 6:45Speaker 1: notes until Wednesday. Jeez. And then when they put their
- 6:49Speaker 1: depth chart out, it was all ores.
- 6:52Speaker 3: They did go heavy oars.
- 6:53Speaker 4: Rich didn't go as many oars this year as I
- 6:55Speaker 4: thought he would. He was heavy oar last year.
- 6:57Speaker 1: I'll just give you a historical background on this depth
- 6:59Speaker 1: chart stuff.
- 6:59Speaker 2: He was heavy oar. He was, but this year it's like, what,
- 7:01Speaker 2: three or four?
- 7:02Speaker 3: Except a quarterback, he still gave you an oar.
- 7:04Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we're not on the oar anymore. FYI.
- 7:08Speaker 1: The depth chart stuff started with Jim Harbaugh. He was
- 7:12Speaker 1: the first one that came out and said, we're not
- 7:13Speaker 1: releasing a depth chart. And then if you remember, James Franklin,
- 7:16Speaker 1: then of Penn State, said, well, we're not going to
- 7:18Speaker 1: release a depth chart. And then, you know, because it's
- 7:20Speaker 1: monkey see, monkey do in this business. Now everyone has
- 7:23Speaker 1: to get cute with their depth chart or not release
- 7:25Speaker 1: one or just do a bunch of or, or, or,
- 7:28Speaker 1: or because they don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. They
- 7:30Speaker 1: don't want to deal with Johnny's mom or dad because
- 7:34Speaker 1: Johnny's running two instead of one, and so they just
- 7:38Speaker 1: or it. What a silly world we've become.
- 7:41Speaker 4: Well, to be fair, the depth chart only matters like
- 7:44Speaker 4: right now. There's like a 72-hour period where it matters
- 7:46Speaker 4: this week, and then it will not matter past then.
- 7:48Speaker 4: I did think there were some interesting things on West Virginia.
- 7:50Speaker 3: What do you mean by that? Do you want to
- 7:51Speaker 3: talk about that for a second?
- 7:52Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
- 7:53Speaker 4: Because I did find some things that jumped to me.
- 7:57Speaker 4: Number one, how about LaMarcus Dillard? Freshman offensive lineman. This
- 8:01Speaker 4: is a number two true freshman from Landover, Maryland. So
- 8:05Speaker 4: Rick Trickett's talked about what a talent he thinks Dillard is.
- 8:08Speaker 4: To see him listed as the number two, that jumped
- 8:10Speaker 4: to me. Josh Isosa is a guy that we've talked
- 8:13Speaker 4: a lot about in previous years. Transferred from Oklahoma. Thought
- 8:16Speaker 4: he had a bright future here, would be able to
- 8:18Speaker 4: get up to speed. He has really closed here lately, Tony.
- 8:21Speaker 4: He's He's listed as number two center right there. Now,
- 8:25Speaker 4: you might have an abundance of centers. Wes King, Isosa listed.
- 8:29Speaker 4: He's come on late in camp. Cam Griffin, obviously, from
- 8:32Speaker 4: Jacksonville State, a very good center. So maybe some real
- 8:34Speaker 4: depth there. I'm anxious to see how much Isosa gets
- 8:38Speaker 4: in the game and plays and how far he's come. Defensively, again,
- 8:42Speaker 4: stay with the young wave of guys. I think we
- 8:43Speaker 4: weren't surprised to meet Matt Sieg in there as an
- 8:46Speaker 4: or potential starter. He's going to be in that starting
- 8:48Speaker 4: lineup sooner rather than later. But he's all over that chart.
- 8:51Speaker 4: Kick returner, punt returner, defense. Zach Alley even slipped in there.
- 8:56Speaker 4: He was on offense on some Beanie Bowl stuff there
- 8:58Speaker 4: in his press conference this week. So you're going to
- 9:00Speaker 4: see Sig all over. I'm not sure you see him
- 9:01Speaker 4: on offense his first game.
- 9:03Speaker 1: Take the under.
- 9:03Speaker 3: That wasn't a surprise.
- 9:04Speaker 4: Myles Cautry from Alabama is a guy that publicly wasn't
- 9:08Speaker 4: talked about a lot, but really made a push there,
- 9:10Speaker 4: especially late in camp. He comes in number two on
- 9:12Speaker 4: the depth chart behind Jameer Latimer at one of the
- 9:14Speaker 4: safety positions. So really interesting. Freshman-wise, how about this true freshman?
- 9:19Speaker 4: Kevin Brown, Amari Latimer, Matt Sig, Cautry, LaMarcus Dillard, five
- 9:23Speaker 4: true freshmen that you could see getting time really early.
- 9:26Speaker 1: Something that wouldn't happen in the past because they wouldn't
- 9:28Speaker 1: get here until August in years gone by. Now they
- 9:30Speaker 1: get in here in January. They get an off-season conditioning program.
- 9:34Speaker 1: They get a spring ball. They get the summer workouts.
- 9:36Speaker 1: And then they get the August camp. So you can
- 9:38Speaker 1: get these guys ready a lot quicker. But Dillard.
- 9:42Speaker 2: And no redshirt stuff. Five to play five.
- 9:44Speaker 1: Five to play five. Dillard explodes. He explodes. He's going
- 9:50Speaker 1: to be really, really good.
- 9:51Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 9:52Speaker 4: So we'll get into offensive line coming up here a
- 9:54Speaker 4: little bit. The question will be, how many guys get
- 9:56Speaker 4: in that rotation here first games? That's seven guys when
- 9:59Speaker 4: the game's still in. And I'm not talking about if
- 10:01Speaker 4: the game gets out of hand in one of.
- 10:02Speaker 3: These next two games.
- 10:03Speaker 4: I'm talking about, Hop, as the game is competitive and close,
- 10:06Speaker 4: how many actual linemen play? We've heard about the depth
- 10:09Speaker 4: all offseason. How many will Rick Trickett actually put in
- 10:12Speaker 4: the game as these games are close? Something we'll be
- 10:14Speaker 4: watching closely.
- 10:15Speaker 2: Absolutely.
- 10:15Speaker 1: All right. If you're a regular listener to Three Guys
- 10:17Speaker 1: Before the Game, you know we start things off by
- 10:19Speaker 1: getting really obvious.
- 10:20Speaker 3: He's got thoughts that sound brand new.
- 10:22Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
- 10:23Speaker 3: But they're things we already knew.
- 10:25Speaker 1: Already knew it.
- 10:26Speaker 3: He's got his whip bomb ready.
- 10:27Speaker 1: Heaven knows.
- 10:29Speaker 2: Let's make it quick before his bladder blows.
- 10:31Speaker 1: He's got a bad bladder. Absolutely.
- 10:34Speaker 4: Boom.
- 10:42Speaker 1: Hoppy's obvious observations are obviously not sponsored by anyone.
- 10:48Speaker 2: You know how I go down rabbit holes? Mm-hmm.
- 10:51Speaker 3: No.
- 10:52Speaker 2: So two rabbit holes to start, then I have a
- 10:54Speaker 2: couple other things. But one is the legal fighting that
- 10:57Speaker 2: goes on over what's happening now in college sports. Georgia
- 11:02Speaker 2: Attorney General Chris Carr, Georgia Attorney General Chris Carr, has
- 11:06Speaker 2: jumped into the LSU controversy of whether or not to
- 11:09Speaker 2: use former pro players. urging the SEC, quote, unquote, to
- 11:12Speaker 2: take all measures available to kick them out of the league.
- 11:17Speaker 2: If LSU does so, banish them from the conference. Now,
- 11:19Speaker 2: that's the Georgia attorney general who's a graduate of?
- 11:22Speaker 1: Probably Georgia.
- 11:23Speaker 2: Georgia.
- 11:24Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 11:25Speaker 2: So, you know, here we go. I also, Brad, have
- 11:29Speaker 2: gotten really obsessed about this unsportsmanlike conduct thing for the
- 11:34Speaker 2: first down. And I'll tell you why. I think there's
- 11:38Speaker 2: a good reason.
- 11:39Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
- 11:40Speaker 2: What do you mean? Who are you?
- 11:41Speaker 1: What do you do?
- 11:43Speaker 2: If there's a flag for holding, you go, oh. But
- 11:46Speaker 2: you didn't really see it, right? I mean, maybe you
- 11:48Speaker 2: saw it. Maybe you didn't. So, okay, whatever. But for
- 11:51Speaker 2: the first down, everybody's going to see it. You're going
- 11:54Speaker 2: to see because the player gets up. And the way
- 11:57Speaker 2: I understand after doing my own research, if the player
- 12:01Speaker 2: just signals first, like stands up, signals first down, that
- 12:04Speaker 2: should not be a penalty. That should not be a penalty.
- 12:08Speaker 2: But if the player, for example, gets up, is still
- 12:11Speaker 2: hanging on the ball, and the official's trying to get it,
- 12:13Speaker 2: and he signals first down, you've got a problem. If
- 12:16Speaker 2: he is overzealous in signaling the first down, and Brad,
- 12:19Speaker 2: this gets into a subjective area.
- 12:21Speaker 3: No, you're very black and white right now.
- 12:22Speaker 4: There's no subjectivity in anything you're saying here, so I'm
- 12:25Speaker 4: sure the calls will go exactly down the line as
- 12:27Speaker 4: they should.
- 12:28Speaker 2: If he is overzealous.
- 12:32Speaker 1: Overzealous.
- 12:32Speaker 2: Overzealous.
- 12:33Speaker 4: Did I signal? Did I wave the arm? What was
- 12:35Speaker 4: the force of my arm coming forward? Where was I looking? Yeah,
- 12:39Speaker 4: this is very clear.
- 12:40Speaker 2: If he does it in the face of the opponent,
- 12:44Speaker 2: that's going to get flagged. It should be flagged the
- 12:46Speaker 2: way I understand it. If he wipes his nose and
- 12:49Speaker 2: signals first down, which is what the.
- 12:51Speaker 1: You didn't do the wipe well, though. That was kind of.
- 12:53Speaker 2: All right, you do it.
- 12:54Speaker 1: You got to do it like with malice, right? It's
- 12:57Speaker 1: got to be like... Which is what they say.
- 13:01Speaker 2: what the TCU player did, even though it seemed rather innocuous.
- 13:04Speaker 2: If he does a gunshot or a throat slash. And
- 13:07Speaker 2: one of the reasons... Now, I think there's tremendous subjectivity
- 13:11Speaker 2: on this. You think?
- 13:12Speaker 1: You think?
- 13:14Speaker 2: Obviously.
- 13:14Speaker 3: That's a great obvious observation there by you.
- 13:16Speaker 2: But here's the thing. This is why it's important. Because
- 13:20Speaker 2: it is now a point of emphasis. And you know, Tony,
- 13:22Speaker 2: in the beginning of the season, they're always heightened on
- 13:24Speaker 2: points of emphasis. Absolutely. And when the first time it's
- 13:27Speaker 2: called against West Virginia... People are going to lose their minds, right?
- 13:31Speaker 1: Yes.
- 13:32Speaker 2: And then, so let's say it's called on West Virginia.
- 13:34Speaker 2: Somebody signals a first down. They throw the flag. And
- 13:37Speaker 2: then somebody for the Chanticleers does it, and there's no flag, Brad.
- 13:42Speaker 1: Uh-oh.
- 13:43Speaker 3: As we saw last week.
- 13:44Speaker 1: Going to be some stuff then.
- 13:45Speaker 3: As we saw last week.
- 13:46Speaker 1: Then, like, wait a minute.
- 13:47Speaker 3: Game one.
- 13:48Speaker 2: You called it on him? You didn't call it. So
- 13:50Speaker 2: I think this will be a point of controversy all
- 13:53Speaker 2: season long.
- 13:54Speaker 1: Well, I don't think it'll be all season long. I
- 13:57Speaker 1: think that by November, they'll call it less, and it'll
- 14:03Speaker 1: be less of a story. But I think the first
- 14:05Speaker 1: six weeks, pretty good.
- 14:07Speaker 3: Yeah, but the same thing will happen.
- 14:08Speaker 4: West Virginia's going to get flagged against Virginia. It'll be
- 14:10Speaker 4: in a big moment. We'll lose our mind. And then
- 14:12Speaker 4: later in the season in November, somebody will do it.
- 14:14Speaker 4: Nobody will call it. And we're still going to remember
- 14:16Speaker 4: the one at Virginia when they screwed us.
- 14:17Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 14:18Speaker 2: And think about this.
- 14:20Speaker 3: Early call.
- 14:20Speaker 2: His first report.
- 14:21Speaker 1: No, you're right on it.
- 14:22Speaker 4: His first report back on Sunday after Virginia.
- 14:25Speaker 2: Let's say in the Virginia game, Brad, we'll build on
- 14:27Speaker 2: the Virginia thing, that you're driving, you're at the 15-yard
- 14:31Speaker 2: line of Virginia, it's a big moment, and a guy
- 14:33Speaker 2: obviously holds. You go, killer. Well, let's say that Cam
- 14:39Speaker 2: Cook runs for three yards, gets a first down and
- 14:42Speaker 2: gives a first down, and you're at the eight, and
- 14:45Speaker 2: they get you for 15.
- 14:47Speaker 4: Now, Rich would say just don't do it, right? All right,
- 14:50Speaker 4: just knock it off, players. Don't do it.
- 14:51Speaker 1: I would imagine that's what he's coaching them to do.
- 14:54Speaker 4: We're legislating out a lot of fun here. You can't
- 14:56Speaker 4: celebrate a first down.
- 14:57Speaker 2: And you should be. Look.
- 14:58Speaker 4: Again, Bill Belichick didn't get flagged either. Are coaches exempt
- 15:00Speaker 4: from this rule?
- 15:01Speaker 1: Apparently.
- 15:01Speaker 3: Is this only players?
- 15:03Speaker 2: West Virginia should be in pretty good shape because what
- 15:05Speaker 2: does Rich want to do after the ball up and go?
- 15:08Speaker 4: You're right, Hoppy. That's your best point you've made here,
- 15:12Speaker 4: in my opinion.
- 15:13Speaker 1: Obviously.
- 15:14Speaker 3: In my opinion.
- 15:15Speaker 4: There shouldn't be a lot to affect West Virginia when
- 15:19Speaker 4: they have the ball because you're going so fast. That's
- 15:21Speaker 4: a tremendous point. Now when the opponent does, I'll still
- 15:23Speaker 4: lose my mind over that, but that's a great point there.
- 15:25Speaker 4: You wrapped that up nicely.
- 15:26Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 15:26Speaker 3: Very good.
- 15:27Speaker 2: All right, we'll move on to the next thing. I
- 15:29Speaker 2: spent a lot of time this week thinking about this
- 15:33Speaker 2: Pat White number retirement. And, you know, we stood around
- 15:38Speaker 2: and we were talking about this. That's great. Pat White's
- 15:39Speaker 2: being honored. He should be honored. And then you think,
- 15:42Speaker 2: wait a minute, let me go back and really look
- 15:45Speaker 2: at what he did. And Brad, you got some stats
- 15:47Speaker 2: you got to get into. So I did that this
- 15:49Speaker 2: week and thought, my gosh, did he really do all that?
- 15:53Speaker 1: He did that.
- 15:54Speaker 3: Did that?
- 15:54Speaker 1: I mean, it was fun.
- 15:56Speaker 2: And we, and we lived through it.
- 15:57Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 15:58Speaker 2: We lived through it. And, Brad, you're going to give
- 16:00Speaker 2: some of these numbers. I'm not going to give them,
- 16:01Speaker 2: but I want to point out a couple of things.
- 16:03Speaker 2: I went into John Antonik's wonderful illustrated book of Mountaineer
- 16:07Speaker 2: football history. Rich Rodriguez begins his fifth season. This is
- 16:12Speaker 2: what Antonik wrote. By his fifth season, Rodriguez thought most
- 16:17Speaker 2: of the pieces were in place. After one fall practice
- 16:20Speaker 2: this year, Rodriguez told a small gathering of reporters, of
- 16:23Speaker 2: press wags, He was really encouraged about the young talent
- 16:25Speaker 2: he had, particularly at the skill positions where he was
- 16:27Speaker 2: beginning to work with Steve Slayton, Owen Schmidt, Darius Renaud,
- 16:31Speaker 2: and Pat White.
- 16:33Speaker 3: Good early call.
- 16:34Speaker 1: Rich was on it.
- 16:35Speaker 3: Good early call. Good scout by Rich.
- 16:38Speaker 2: And also in Anthony's book, and I think you guys
- 16:40Speaker 2: know this, but that he's a recruited player out of Daphne, Alabama,
- 16:44Speaker 2: was drafted by the Angels. Rich Rod had to go
- 16:47Speaker 2: there and convince him to come because he could have
- 16:49Speaker 2: easily gone to minor league baseball. Brad, you'll get in
- 16:53Speaker 2: the stats, but just a couple things. I mean, winning
- 16:55Speaker 2: four was, I think, the only college quarterback to start
- 16:58Speaker 2: and win four consecutive bowl games? Correct.
- 17:00Speaker 1: Correct.
- 17:02Speaker 2: And the other thing that stood out to me is,
- 17:05Speaker 2: I mean, his stats are just ridiculous, but there were
- 17:08Speaker 2: games where he would stand out because he'd gained like
- 17:12Speaker 2: 200 yards or 220 yards, and that's what stood out.
- 17:16Speaker 2: And Slayton would have like 160 yards.
- 17:18Speaker 4: That's probably the most remarkable about the numbers he racked
- 17:21Speaker 4: up is that he wasn't doing them as the only
- 17:23Speaker 4: guy with a feature. There's a college football Hall of
- 17:26Speaker 4: Famer right there with him. And oh, by the way,
- 17:29Speaker 4: Owen Schmidt was an NFL pick. And oh, by the way,
- 17:31Speaker 4: Renaud was doing things. And Noel Devine. It was a
- 17:35Speaker 4: remarkable collection of high-end super talent, which is why you
- 17:40Speaker 4: very nearly played for.
- 17:40Speaker 3: The national championship. There's my obvious observation.
- 17:44Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 17:46Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 17:46Speaker 2: But you look at the The game stats, you go, oh,
- 17:48Speaker 2: West Virginia rushed for 460 yards.
- 17:51Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Obscene numbers.
- 17:53Speaker 2: It was. And then, Tony, you tweeted a little highlight package.
- 17:59Speaker 2: And you remember, but you don't really remember until you
- 18:03Speaker 2: look at it.
- 18:03Speaker 1: You go, wow. Special.
- 18:06Speaker 2: I mean, just un-freaking-believable.
- 18:09Speaker 1: I truly enjoyed his interviews this week. We interviewed him.
- 18:13Speaker 1: I interviewed him on the Rich Show podcast. Monday. And
- 18:16Speaker 1: then he had the media session Tuesday. Like he, number one,
- 18:21Speaker 1: he's an interesting dude.
- 18:23Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 18:24Speaker 1: He is an interesting dude. And like, I went back
- 18:29Speaker 1: and listened to his answers. Extremely well thought out, delivered deliberately.
- 18:38Speaker 1: And if you listen to what he said now, of
- 18:40Speaker 1: course I made him cry.
- 18:41Speaker 2: I know you did. Yeah.
- 18:42Speaker 1: I made him cry. And that is one of the
- 18:45Speaker 1: all-time great stories where it almost didn't happen. Right. Right?
- 18:50Speaker 4: Right.
- 18:50Speaker 1: And so like every young guy or person or girl
- 18:54Speaker 1: that's in either a sporting environment or a work environment,
- 18:58Speaker 1: and you're thinking about, well, I'm going to bag this.
- 19:01Speaker 1: Chances are, if you get through the hard part, the
- 19:07Speaker 1: benefit is something you could have never anticipated. And that's
- 19:11Speaker 1: the case with him. Right?
- 19:13Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 19:14Speaker 1: And that's sports. I think today he's in the ears,
- 19:17Speaker 1: and so is Rasheed Marshall, among others over there, to
- 19:21Speaker 1: these younger players saying like, hey, I know this might
- 19:24Speaker 1: not be fun right now. I know this isn't exactly
- 19:26Speaker 1: what you had in your mind right now. This might
- 19:28Speaker 1: not be good at all. Trust me when I tell you,
- 19:31Speaker 1: go through it, endure it, and come out on the
- 19:34Speaker 1: other end. It'll be worth it.
- 19:35Speaker 2: It's amazing.
- 19:36Speaker 4: As you mentioned, Hop, we all lived through that time.
- 19:38Speaker 4: That was truly a rock star environment. For those guys
- 19:43Speaker 4: and then that team and the program collectively, when we
- 19:46Speaker 4: would go somewhere, it was stop and stare at those guys.
- 19:50Speaker 4: at rich leading it through. And then there's Pat white
- 19:51Speaker 4: and Steve Slayton at home events or fan day, the
- 19:55Speaker 4: amount of planning hours that went into, all right, what
- 19:58Speaker 4: are you going to do with Steve and Pat? And
- 20:00Speaker 4: how are you going to position them so that the
- 20:01Speaker 4: lines aren't outrageous and you try and get people through
- 20:04Speaker 4: and what's the escape route when it's over and you've
- 20:07Speaker 4: got to close it down. How are you getting Pat
- 20:09Speaker 4: and Steve back out of the building and back into
- 20:11Speaker 4: the locker rooms? It was just a remarkable time. And
- 20:14Speaker 4: I think that was one I think most everybody appreciated
- 20:16Speaker 4: at the time that you were seeing unbelievable greatness from
- 20:19Speaker 4: multiple people.
- 20:20Speaker 3: But, man, it's fleeting, isn't it? It just goes fast.
- 20:23Speaker 4: From that Louisville game when he burst on the scene
- 20:26Speaker 4: to how much fun everybody had at the Sugar Bowl
- 20:28Speaker 4: and how historic that was and giggling and laughing at
- 20:31Speaker 4: Georgia coming in, talking about their SEC speed, and they're
- 20:34Speaker 4: just staring at the back of Pat and Steve Slayton
- 20:36Speaker 4: all day long. to the Fiesta Bowl, and then the
- 20:40Speaker 4: next year for Pat even continued on, right? Broadened his
- 20:43Speaker 4: skill set, had that game in the bowl game where
- 20:45Speaker 4: he threw it all.
- 20:45Speaker 3: Over North Carolina.
- 20:47Speaker 4: Just a remarkable year, but you talk about something that
- 20:49Speaker 4: went fast. His time went fast.
- 20:51Speaker 2: It did go fast. I think two things, several things.
- 20:54Speaker 2: One is that we did realize at the time we
- 20:57Speaker 2: were watching something special, but to the point also where,
- 21:00Speaker 2: and I think we've said this before, is you're watching
- 21:02Speaker 2: a game and you were saying, well, just wait, he'll
- 21:05Speaker 2: break a couple. I mean, you knew it was coming.
- 21:07Speaker 2: And it almost always did, first. Second of all is
- 21:11Speaker 2: that it's great that he's getting this honor, but also
- 21:13Speaker 2: for everybody to go back and kind of remember in
- 21:17Speaker 2: detail what he did. And I'll go back to Joy, man.
- 21:20Speaker 2: It was just incredible joy. Incredible joy. A lot of joy. Amen.
- 21:26Speaker 2: And it was just amazing. And I think, too, because
- 21:28Speaker 2: I was thinking about in the modern era, I can't
- 21:31Speaker 2: go back to the 40s, but.
- 21:33Speaker 1: Pretty close.
- 21:35Speaker 2: Well, you see... You think about West Virginia's had some
- 21:38Speaker 2: really great quarterbacks. You think about Oliver Luck, Jeff Hostetler,
- 21:41Speaker 2: Mark Bulger, Major Harris, Will Greer. I mean, you could
- 21:45Speaker 2: name others. Pat White's the GOAT. Pat White's the GOAT.
- 21:49Speaker 1: Yeah, he is. He is.
- 21:51Speaker 2: I don't think it's– I don't think it is even–
- 21:53Speaker 2: I don't think it's debatable. Well, you can debate it,
- 21:56Speaker 2: but I think the evidence weighs heavily in favor of
- 21:59Speaker 2: Pat White being the GOAT.
- 22:00Speaker 1: Guys? Don't disagree with you because ultimately, you know, it
- 22:04Speaker 1: comes down to him and Major. And the deal is,
- 22:08Speaker 1: to me, your ultimate goal is to win. And he won. Now,
- 22:12Speaker 1: I know you could say, well, Major won all of it. Yeah,
- 22:14Speaker 1: Major did in 88. 87, didn't win the bowl game. 89,
- 22:19Speaker 1: didn't win the bowl game. It ultimately comes down to
- 22:22Speaker 1: the wins.
- 22:24Speaker 2: It comes down to wins. Major wasn't here for his
- 22:25Speaker 2: senior year. It wasn't a great– everybody loves Major, but
- 22:29Speaker 2: it wasn't a great feel there at the end. And
- 22:32Speaker 2: then Pat White just left on the highest possible rung. Yes.
- 22:35Speaker 2: So those are my obvious observations. I look forward to it.
- 22:39Speaker 2: In fact, I'm going to show up Saturday, and I
- 22:41Speaker 2: want to be there for Pat White's.
- 22:42Speaker 1: You're going to the game.
- 22:43Speaker 2: Going to the game, yeah.
- 22:44Speaker 3: Remember, get there early. I will. Ceremony 1145.
- 22:47Speaker 2: 1145.
- 22:47Speaker 1: When was the last time you physically were at a
- 22:51Speaker 1: WVU football game?
- 22:53Speaker 2: To be at the game itself?
- 22:54Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 22:56Speaker 2: Well, I remember Fred Wyatt was. It's been a while.
- 23:03Speaker 1: Be over 14 years, right? Maybe 14 years. The last
- 23:06Speaker 1: home game.
- 23:08Speaker 2: Yeah, when I was with MSN. Yeah, like 14 years.
- 23:11Speaker 1: The pinstripe bowl year. Yeah.
- 23:14Speaker 2: Was that the New York?
- 23:16Speaker 1: The pinstripe bowl year. Yeah, it was that year.
- 23:18Speaker 2: Boy, ended on a down note.
- 23:19Speaker 1: Snowy. A little snowy.
- 23:21Speaker 3: Maybe that's why it's wiped from your memory.
- 23:23Speaker 2: Probably so.
- 23:24Speaker 1: Still to come, we have spreads on stats and textual healing.
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- 25:07Speaker 1: Lines start to form. Weather-wise going to be pretty good?
- 25:10Speaker 3: Yeah, should.
- 25:11Speaker 2: Right?
- 25:12Speaker 3: Yeah, temperature is really nice. Just need that rain to
- 25:14Speaker 3: skirt around.
- 25:15Speaker 1: It was hot. Yeah.
- 25:16Speaker 4: They say high 70s for the temperature right now.
- 25:19Speaker 1: Now, do you think Rich thought the temperature yesterday was 72?
- 25:22Speaker 1: Do you think he went with that?
- 25:23Speaker 2: No, because it started out warm.
- 25:25Speaker 4: Probably when he got in there, it was already 80 plus.
- 25:28Speaker 1: Like on Rich's thermometer, what do you think he'd call
- 25:30Speaker 1: the temperature from yesterday? 77?
- 25:31Speaker 2: 77, 81.
- 25:31Speaker 4: Boy, it got really, it was like 70. It was warm,
- 25:35Speaker 4: but it got 81 degrees. I don't know if you
- 25:36Speaker 4: know this, but Rich really struggles with the temperature.
- 25:39Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 25:39Speaker 4: He doesn't really– he doesn't really– We contended all camp
- 25:43Speaker 4: that he would take– this is unconfirmed. He would take
- 25:46Speaker 4: the reading early when he arrived and not adjust it.
- 25:50Speaker 2: Not adjust as it went on?
- 25:51Speaker 3: That was our thought.
- 25:51Speaker 2: So he gets our belief. So not in-game adjustments of
- 25:54Speaker 2: the temperature?
- 25:54Speaker 3: That's our belief.
- 25:55Speaker 1: So he gets in the office about 6 in the morning, right?
- 25:57Speaker 2: When it's 71 degrees.
- 25:59Speaker 1: Yeah, he gets in about 6 in the morning at 71.
- 26:02Speaker 1: He looks at his car probably when he walks. He
- 26:04Speaker 1: backs in all the time too. He's a big backup guy.
- 26:06Speaker 1: And so he looks at it, walks in, and to him,
- 26:08Speaker 1: 71 is for the rest of the day. So he'd
- 26:11Speaker 1: get to the press conference. He'd go, hell, you know,
- 26:12Speaker 1: we're looking for hot weather. It's only 71 degrees. Yeah,
- 26:15Speaker 1: it was at 71 at 6, Rich. It wasn't 71
- 26:19Speaker 1: in the afternoon.
- 26:20Speaker 3: It's one of our fall camp observations, Hoppy. Again, unconfirmed.
- 26:27Speaker 3: That's our belief.
- 26:28Speaker 1: All right. You ready for your thing?
- 26:30Speaker 2: Let's go.
- 26:31Speaker 1: Is it good?
- 26:31Speaker 3: Well, there's stuff. Stuff.
- 26:33Speaker 1: All right, well, let's do it then.
- 26:34Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it because I know nothing about this.
- 26:36Speaker 3: Well, remember, we're not super deep. We'll just go right
- 26:38Speaker 3: to the numbers. Here comes the heater.
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- 27:26Speaker 1: improve in accuracy and efficiency as the season goes forward?
- 27:30Speaker 4: Much like teams, the biggest improvement comes, yeah, once you
- 27:33Speaker 4: get going. I mean, what am I going to look
- 27:36Speaker 4: at here for analytics, deep analytics? Both teams are completely new.
- 27:39Speaker 4: And yeah, I don't even know that that's relevant moving forward.
- 27:42Speaker 4: But we've got some things to discuss, at least. We'll
- 27:45Speaker 4: wrap some numbers in around them. But let's start where
- 27:47Speaker 4: Hoppy left off with Pat. I've My note hoppy here
- 27:51Speaker 4: says the most significant number for Saturday.
- 27:53Speaker 2: Yes. Five.
- 27:54Speaker 1: Yes.
- 27:55Speaker 2: Not white.
- 27:55Speaker 3: Here's some numbers.
- 27:56Speaker 4: 4,480 rushing yards. Excuse me, what'd you say? 4,480 rushing
- 28:03Speaker 4: yards all time. Third among quarterbacks in NCAA history.
- 28:07Speaker 1: Bogus.
- 28:08Speaker 4: Well noted, well documented, well discussed.
- 28:10Speaker 3: Should be second.
- 28:11Speaker 1: Yes.
- 28:12Speaker 4: Denard Robinson had 15 more rush yards than Pat. Denard Robinson,
- 28:16Speaker 4: of course, moved from quarterback to running back late in
- 28:19Speaker 4: his senior season.
- 28:20Speaker 2: That doesn't count.
- 28:21Speaker 1: That makes me irate.
- 28:23Speaker 4: I got down a little rabbit hole today because that's
- 28:24Speaker 4: made me irate for years.
- 28:26Speaker 1: You guys have been down more rabbit holes than Elmer Fudd.
- 28:28Speaker 4: As close as I can tell, at least 220 additional
- 28:34Speaker 4: rushing yards in season at the running back position in
- 28:36Speaker 4: games he started. Put up another hundy or so in
- 28:39Speaker 4: their bowl game. Now, he did move around a little
- 28:41Speaker 4: bit that game. Took some snaps in what was then
- 28:44Speaker 4: a wildcat because he had moved to running back, but
- 28:46Speaker 4: he was in the quarterback position. But 200 to 300
- 28:50Speaker 4: additional yards came for Denard Roberts, who was an unbelievable
- 28:53Speaker 4: college player.
- 28:53Speaker 2: And, of course, Rich.
- 28:54Speaker 4: Does Rich know how to use the quarterback and run
- 28:57Speaker 4: the quarterback there that he has number two and number
- 28:58Speaker 4: three on that list? But Pat should be number two, passed,
- 29:01Speaker 4: of course, by the young man from Navy. But what
- 29:04Speaker 4: an unbelievable accomplishment, again, to be splitting yards with other
- 29:09Speaker 4: skill guys on those teams and to finish in third place,
- 29:13Speaker 4: current third place all time among quarterbacks. It is just
- 29:16Speaker 4: simply stunning. He had 6,049 career passing yards, 103 career touchdowns.
- 29:22Speaker 4: West Virginia had, here's what you guys were talking about.
- 29:24Speaker 1: How many touchdowns?
- 29:27Speaker 3: 103.
- 29:27Speaker 4: 42 wins in the four years in which he started games.
- 29:30Speaker 4: And as you mentioned, Hoppy includes all four bowl wins.
- 29:32Speaker 3: How about that?
- 29:33Speaker 1: 42 over four. 10-1 average.
- 29:35Speaker 3: Not bad. Pretty good.
- 29:36Speaker 4: So yeah, I share the sentiment with you guys. Can't
- 29:39Speaker 4: wait to to see him honored. And again, to your point, Hoppy,
- 29:43Speaker 4: what's fun about these moments, and there's not a lot
- 29:46Speaker 4: of them, is when it gives you a chance to
- 29:49Speaker 4: sit and look back and remember. And we can say, ah,
- 29:51Speaker 4: how great was that? And how many times, Tony, did
- 29:54Speaker 4: we just sit and giggle? Like, you'd have to do
- 29:56Speaker 4: it in commercial break. But we just giggle at it.
- 29:59Speaker 4: That poor team trying to stop third and seven, third
- 30:02Speaker 4: and nine, third and 12. Okay, West Virginia's going to pass.
- 30:05Speaker 4: They don't want to pass. They'd rather run it. Pat
- 30:07Speaker 4: drops back. You got everybody covered.
- 30:08Speaker 3: Nobody's over. Okay, see you first down. Gain of 16.
- 30:11Speaker 3: Move the sticks. Here we go.
- 30:12Speaker 4: First down or more. Just how many times do we do?
- 30:14Speaker 4: We would get back in the bus after games and
- 30:16Speaker 4: literally just giggle at people.
- 30:17Speaker 3: Like, did you just see that? Did you just see
- 30:19Speaker 3: what happened?
- 30:20Speaker 4: The number of times I had to apologize to friends
- 30:23Speaker 4: in the business because of Pat and that era is.
- 30:28Speaker 3: I can count them on two hands.
- 30:29Speaker 1: When we were boat racing them?
- 30:30Speaker 3: Just boat racing people.
- 30:31Speaker 2: Guys, total yards for Pat White, 5.7 miles.
- 30:37Speaker 1: It's a good day.
- 30:39Speaker 3: It was awesome.
- 30:39Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good day.
- 30:40Speaker 3: It was awesome. Sadly fun.
- 30:41Speaker 1: All right. You know what's interesting? Yes. This is ironically.
- 30:44Speaker 1: So ironically.
- 30:46Speaker 2: Is it ironic?
- 30:46Speaker 1: It is. It's not coincidental. Okay. Ironically. Big debate. Pat
- 30:50Speaker 1: White will have his jersey retired Saturday on the same
- 30:55Speaker 1: day that West Virginia plays Coastal Carolina. whose offensive coordinator
- 31:00Speaker 1: is Nick Petrino, whose dad is Bobby Petrino, who Pat
- 31:06Speaker 1: beat while at West Virginia. And Petrino was the Louisville
- 31:11Speaker 1: head coach. So the Petrinos are going to get the
- 31:15Speaker 1: remnants of the Pat White era.
- 31:17Speaker 3: That's a good point.
- 31:18Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 31:19Speaker 4: And head coach Ryan Beard's son-in-law of Bobby Petrino.
- 31:22Speaker 2: Sure.
- 31:23Speaker 1: To add to the connections. You going coincidental or ironic
- 31:25Speaker 1: on that?
- 31:25Speaker 2: I think that's a coincidence. I don't think it's ironic.
- 31:29Speaker 2: It's close, but I don't... But anyway, interesting factoid.
- 31:32Speaker 4: So there's the starting point on the Missouri State staff. Heavy,
- 31:35Speaker 4: heavy Bobby Petrino tree influence, in fact, in the same
- 31:38Speaker 4: family as Bobby Petrino on a lot of that. Missouri State,
- 31:42Speaker 4: last season, a lot of success. This Coastal team, and
- 31:45Speaker 4: they are rebuilding as well, lost 15 of their top
- 31:48Speaker 4: 16 guys when it comes to snap counts. Probably their
- 31:51Speaker 4: best players over on the other sideline for West Virginia
- 31:53Speaker 4: and Zeke Durham-Campbell should have a big season for West Virginia,
- 31:56Speaker 4: or at least you hope he does. 50 new players,
- 31:58Speaker 4: plus For Coastal Carolina, they'll run a pro-style offense. Ryan Beard,
- 32:02Speaker 4: quick to point out, though, they'll do what they have
- 32:04Speaker 4: to do to win it. If they have to throw it,
- 32:05Speaker 4: they'll throw it. If they have to run it, they'll
- 32:07Speaker 4: run it, whatever the game dictates. They had a really
- 32:09Speaker 4: talented quarterback last year at Missouri State who threw for 7,000-plus
- 32:13Speaker 4: yards in his career. They threw it all over. That's
- 32:15Speaker 4: where you start with this Coastal team. Who will they
- 32:18Speaker 4: go with at quarterback? You mentioned all the oars from
- 32:21Speaker 4: Ryan Beard. There's four of them listed as oars right now.
- 32:24Speaker 4: Let's talk about a couple of these guys. Deuce Bailey.
- 32:28Speaker 4: is one of the candidates. He arrives with Beard from
- 32:30Speaker 4: Missouri State. He did not start last year for Missouri State,
- 32:34Speaker 4: had just 110 snaps, but did play in a couple
- 32:37Speaker 4: of games for them last season. So some familiarity there
- 32:40Speaker 4: with Deuce Bailey. Trey Guerrero is another guy you'll probably
- 32:44Speaker 4: see at some point. You may see both those guys.
- 32:46Speaker 4: He's a JUCO transfer from Tyler Junior College. He's interesting
- 32:49Speaker 4: from this standpoint, guys. He really throws the ball all over.
- 32:52Speaker 4: If they want to go to the air, this might
- 32:54Speaker 4: be your guy. He had some big, powerful offers to
- 32:58Speaker 4: be a backup. LSU, Florida State, Arkansas, and Texas Tech,
- 33:02Speaker 4: to name a few of those. So that's a guy
- 33:04Speaker 4: that had some recruiting buzz around him, at least to
- 33:07Speaker 4: go into those places and be a backup. So you'll
- 33:09Speaker 4: probably see him at some point.
- 33:10Speaker 1: Might start.
- 33:11Speaker 3: Might start.
- 33:12Speaker 4: Trevor Jackson's another guy, transfer from Arkansas. Big arm, but
- 33:15Speaker 4: can also run it. And Lopez is a freshman. But
- 33:18Speaker 4: you may see all four. I think those first two
- 33:20Speaker 4: are the guys you're going to see most likely. Wide
- 33:23Speaker 4: receiver Tristan Gardner is a guy to keep an eye on.
- 33:25Speaker 4: He's a Missouri State transfer. Had 400-plus yards receiving last season,
- 33:30Speaker 4: six touchdowns. As a true freshman, that 400 yards total
- 33:34Speaker 4: would have led Coastal if it was last season, Hoppy.
- 33:37Speaker 4: Colester returns two running backs. These are guys that were
- 33:40Speaker 4: on the team last year. They combined for nearly 800
- 33:42Speaker 4: yards rushing and almost six yards per carry. Javon Edwards
- 33:46Speaker 4: and Dom Nicely are the two running backs. They can
- 33:49Speaker 4: go inside, outside. They'll also catch it a little bit
- 33:52Speaker 4: as well. I'm keeping an eye more closely. To me, guys,
- 33:56Speaker 4: this is less about Coastal Carolina and more about what
- 33:59Speaker 4: West Virginia does. We talk about throwing the football. Is
- 34:01Speaker 4: Coastal going to come out and want to throw it?
- 34:03Speaker 4: You have a lot of questions about West Virginia's pass rush.
- 34:06Speaker 4: We mentioned the other day, that defensive line, guys, is
- 34:09Speaker 4: really young when you get down beyond the three starters. Gabriel,
- 34:15Speaker 4: Corey McIntyre, and Zeke Durham-Campbell. And you start to get
- 34:18Speaker 4: beyond that, and you're going to some JUCOs right away.
- 34:20Speaker 4: You're going to a D2 guy and Will LeBlanc. that
- 34:23Speaker 4: is coming up listed as number two. Emerson Joy made
- 34:26Speaker 4: the depth chart transfer in from Canada. So you've got
- 34:29Speaker 4: some guys that have not played at this level beyond
- 34:32Speaker 4: the first three. What can West Virginia do in pass rush?
- 34:36Speaker 4: How will they be against Coastal when they decide to
- 34:38Speaker 4: open it up? We know last year West Virginia was
- 34:40Speaker 4: very good against the run and forced a lot of turnovers,
- 34:44Speaker 4: as we mentioned in one of our over-under episodes.
- 34:46Speaker 3: They didn't fall on enough, but they forced a ton.
- 34:48Speaker 4: But pass game defense last year was a real struggle.
- 34:51Speaker 4: 128th nationally in opponent passing yards per game was West Virginia.
- 34:58Speaker 4: Choms Jain, Nick Taylor getting the starts at the corners.
- 35:01Speaker 4: Watching them early, Hoppy. How good can they be? How
- 35:04Speaker 4: good can this pass rush be? Darius Wiley, KJ Henson,
- 35:08Speaker 4: Yendor Mack, another freshman. I didn't mention him in the
- 35:10Speaker 4: true freshman lineup. Is he a guy you see coming
- 35:13Speaker 4: in tomorrow? He's listed as an or right now as
- 35:15Speaker 4: a backup with Henson. behind Corey McIntyre. So you would think,
- 35:18Speaker 4: given the rotation of offensive line guys, you may see
- 35:22Speaker 4: Mack in there at some point early. So keep an
- 35:24Speaker 4: eye on this pass defense. If I'm looking for one
- 35:27Speaker 4: area on the field, I want to watch the offensive line.
- 35:29Speaker 4: I want to watch Michael Hawkins, of course. But this defense,
- 35:32Speaker 4: what can it do when the shots drop back to throw?
- 35:35Speaker 4: That's something to keep an eye on. Flip over to
- 35:38Speaker 4: the other side. Again, I'll give you some numbers from
- 35:40Speaker 4: last year. It absolutely doesn't matter, Hobb. But Coastal was
- 35:43Speaker 4: bad last year. On defense, 130th nationally in explosive plays,
- 35:49Speaker 4: opponent explosive plays. That's a part of the West Virginia
- 35:52Speaker 4: offense that I think takes a big leap this year.
- 35:54Speaker 4: I think you're going to see some pops. You're going
- 35:56Speaker 4: to see some long runs. I think Michael Hawkins is
- 35:58Speaker 4: going to give you some where he whips them off.
- 36:00Speaker 4: So that's an area. Let's watch explosive plays in this game.
- 36:05Speaker 4: Last year, Carolina gave up 200 yards rushing in seven games,
- 36:08Speaker 4: 200 yards or more in seven games. Again, all new defense,
- 36:12Speaker 4: but that's an alarming stat. Missouri State last year, 76
- 36:16Speaker 4: nationally against the run overall. They gave up 200 yards
- 36:20Speaker 4: on the ground to USC in last year's opener, which
- 36:21Speaker 4: is about the only comparable game you can draw.
- 36:24Speaker 3: What's Rich going to do, Hoppy, to start this thing out?
- 36:27Speaker 2: Rich likes to run the football.
- 36:28Speaker 4: He's going to line up and run it. So keep
- 36:29Speaker 4: an eye on Carolina's second line of defense there, the linebackers.
- 36:33Speaker 4: In talking to Ryan Beard and their play-by-play voice, they
- 36:36Speaker 4: think this is probably the best position group on the
- 36:40Speaker 4: field for Carolina. Trey Brown is... He's one of the linebackers.
- 36:43Speaker 4: He had 11 and a half sacks last year. He's
- 36:45Speaker 4: a preseason All-Sun Belt second team this year. Savon McDowell,
- 36:50Speaker 4: another guy, second team preseason as well from a few publications.
- 36:53Speaker 4: Those are the guys you're going to watch. Are they
- 36:55Speaker 4: able to plug the holes? Can West Virginia get to
- 36:57Speaker 4: the second level, clear a lane there? That's where the
- 37:00Speaker 4: big explosives start to come into play. So let's watch
- 37:03Speaker 4: this offensive line for West Virginia. Per pick six previews.
- 37:08Speaker 1: Excuse me?
- 37:08Speaker 4: Pick six previews. Great preseason publication. West Virginia was ranked
- 37:13Speaker 4: 121st nationally in O-line run push last season. Probably could
- 37:18Speaker 4: have given you that for your obvious observations. You didn't
- 37:21Speaker 4: need a number to tell you that West Virginia struggled.
- 37:24Speaker 4: I'm watching that first and foremost. When the offense has
- 37:27Speaker 4: the ball, what does this line look like? We've talked
- 37:29Speaker 4: so much about it. How improved are they? There's no
- 37:32Speaker 4: doubt they're going to be better. But what does that mean?
- 37:35Speaker 4: How much better are they? Can they push around this
- 37:37Speaker 4: Coastal Carolina front, get to that second level, and give
- 37:40Speaker 4: an opportunity to pop some guys? And as I said earlier,
- 37:43Speaker 4: the other part of this O-line, how many guys are
- 37:45Speaker 4: you playing? Is this a seven-man rotation when the game
- 37:48Speaker 4: is close tomorrow? Are there eight guys that Rick Trickett
- 37:51Speaker 4: feels comfortable moving in there? The starting five is what
- 37:54Speaker 4: the starting five has been for a few weeks. They've
- 37:56Speaker 4: mixed guys around. They've moved folks in other positions. It
- 38:00Speaker 4: does feel like there's some versatility there. But how many
- 38:02Speaker 4: actual guys will get into this game when it's close?
- 38:05Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they continue to say they feel pretty
- 38:08Speaker 1: good with eight and a half to nine guys that
- 38:10Speaker 1: they think they can play.
- 38:12Speaker 4: Yeah, you just wonder, is that OK? That's who they're
- 38:14Speaker 4: comfortable with. And over the course of the season, you're
- 38:16Speaker 4: going to need that many. But when the game's close,
- 38:19Speaker 4: the basketball coaches do this all the time. We love
- 38:21Speaker 4: 10 guys. 10 guys can play and help us win.
- 38:23Speaker 4: And then you start to get the early seasons, 10
- 38:25Speaker 4: guys play.
- 38:26Speaker 3: And then it starts to drop to nine. Then maybe
- 38:28Speaker 3: it's eight.
- 38:28Speaker 4: By the time the big 12 season comes, that number
- 38:31Speaker 4: is cut really down on who you can trust. So-
- 38:34Speaker 4: When it starts, how many can you get to if
- 38:36Speaker 4: you're West Virginia's offensive line?
- 38:38Speaker 2: But also, if you get ahead in these first two games,
- 38:41Speaker 2: then other guys get in.
- 38:42Speaker 4: Yeah, then you'll play some guys, but that's expected. I'm
- 38:44Speaker 4: looking for it when it's actually close. What are you
- 38:47Speaker 4: doing from a sub standpoint, and how comfortable are you
- 38:49Speaker 4: with some of these backups? All right, the betting line
- 38:51Speaker 4: in this one, West Virginia favored by 21 as of
- 38:54Speaker 4: this morning per DraftKings, total sitting at 56.5. Historical lines
- 39:00Speaker 4: can be difficult to pin down exactly when you go
- 39:02Speaker 4: back 20 years. whether it was a closing line, was
- 39:05Speaker 4: that the opening line, what exactly was it? I'm comfortable
- 39:07Speaker 4: saying this based on these numbers. Rich is pretty good
- 39:11Speaker 4: in this spot, favored by 20 points or more. He's
- 39:13Speaker 4: sitting around 60% against the spread in games that look
- 39:17Speaker 4: like this over his head coaching career. That's just against
- 39:21Speaker 4: the spread. That's not winning it, but just for those
- 39:22Speaker 4: that enjoy the numbers.
- 39:24Speaker 1: Sure.
- 39:25Speaker 2: So what's the total again?
- 39:26Speaker 1: 56.5.
- 39:27Speaker 2: So that's... 36, 17, 37, 17.
- 39:33Speaker 1: What do you think about that number?
- 39:36Speaker 4: I told Hoppy before the show, this is one of those,
- 39:38Speaker 4: I know we're not paid to say, I don't know,
- 39:39Speaker 4: but I mean, how do you know? This wouldn't surprise
- 39:42Speaker 4: me if West Virginia goes out and wins this by
- 39:45Speaker 4: four touchdowns and really looks good and exploits some things
- 39:48Speaker 4: from Coastal. as they're trying to figure themselves out, and
- 39:50Speaker 4: there's some big explosive runs. But I also wouldn't be
- 39:53Speaker 4: shocked if this is a game where you win it
- 39:55Speaker 4: by 17, because you're also trying to figure things out.
- 39:57Speaker 3: So I don't know on this. I don't know.
- 40:01Speaker 4: That number might be up a little bit from some
- 40:04Speaker 4: of the computer projections.
- 40:06Speaker 3: But again, what's the computer know about what these teams are?
- 40:08Speaker 1: No one knows.
- 40:10Speaker 3: Truly no one knows.
- 40:11Speaker 1: You truly don't know, because it's all It's all heart.
- 40:14Speaker 1: It's all how much have you improved and developed since
- 40:17Speaker 1: the last time you played a game, and now development
- 40:19Speaker 1: is so much better than it was because they're just
- 40:23Speaker 1: practicing and working more. So to answer your question, Hoppy, right,
- 40:29Speaker 1: it's probably somewhere in the middle, right? We all have
- 40:31Speaker 1: the narrative in our minds of what we want it
- 40:34Speaker 1: to look like, right? We want them to go out
- 40:36Speaker 1: there and look like, you know, the 1984 Nebraska Cornhuskers
- 40:41Speaker 1: with Turner Gill– Mike Rozier and Dean Steinkuhler probably not
- 40:46Speaker 1: going to look like that. But that's our narrative that
- 40:49Speaker 1: we have in our mind. And it's not going to
- 40:51Speaker 1: look like it did last year. So it's in the middle.
- 40:57Speaker 3: And this isn't an FCS game either.
- 41:00Speaker 4: No, we'll have a different conversation for Tennessee Martin and
- 41:03Speaker 4: what you think the margin should be. So this one,
- 41:05Speaker 4: if it's 17, but you control the game and you
- 41:08Speaker 4: look good doing it.
- 41:09Speaker 3: OK, that's what it is.
- 41:10Speaker 4: If it's 24, 28, then you should feel pretty good about, again,
- 41:13Speaker 4: a coastal team that's in a complete rebuild with a
- 41:16Speaker 4: new coach. But again, not an FCS type program.
- 41:18Speaker 2: Correct.
- 41:19Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 41:20Speaker 1: So Hoppy, again, I keep saying this and I always
- 41:24Speaker 1: say this. Every school right now and its fan base,
- 41:28Speaker 1: including us, we go through preseason games. intoxication of optimism
- 41:33Speaker 1: yeah and so it never looks as good as you
- 41:36Speaker 1: really want it to look i'm i'm more encouraged though
- 41:38Speaker 1: i feel good about what they will look like.
- 41:41Speaker 2: Yeah i do i i am too i go back
- 41:44Speaker 2: to what rich says though and what everybody says this
- 41:47Speaker 2: is obvious too is that until you play a game
- 41:49Speaker 2: sure right because you can see certain things in practice
- 41:52Speaker 2: but until you play a game until michael hawkins takes
- 41:55Speaker 2: a bunch of snaps and 60 000 people and you
- 41:56Speaker 2: got the other team is gets to play too so
- 41:59Speaker 2: you As Brad said, you just don't know. I would
- 42:02Speaker 2: guess if you had to make a guess, it would
- 42:04Speaker 2: be to me that after the game, Rich Rodriguez is saying,
- 42:07Speaker 2: we won the game. Thanks to the fans. It was
- 42:10Speaker 2: a great day. But boy, we got a lot of
- 42:12Speaker 2: things to work on, Brad, because X, X, X.
- 42:14Speaker 1: X, X. Because of course, you improve your most from
- 42:18Speaker 1: your first to your second.
- 42:19Speaker 4: He also might say that if you win by 24,
- 42:21Speaker 4: it might be that exact line.
- 42:23Speaker 1: But we've seen Rich win big games. I've seen Rich
- 42:25Speaker 1: win big games on the road and lose his mind. Oh, yeah. i.e.
- 42:30Speaker 1: Mississippi State. Oh, my gosh. You might remember that one
- 42:32Speaker 1: a little bit.
- 42:32Speaker 2: I do.
- 42:33Speaker 3: He's a great Bulldog mascot down there, very photogenic.
- 42:36Speaker 1: He'd come get his picture taken with you, look at
- 42:38Speaker 1: the camera. As soon as it clicked, he'd walk away.
- 42:40Speaker 2: I think it was those cowbells.
- 42:41Speaker 1: So my point on this is this. To this point
- 42:44Speaker 1: of this preparation to start this season, there's been a
- 42:47Speaker 1: governor on Michael Hawkins. He has not played in full– run,
- 42:55Speaker 1: throw the ball to the official, run back to the
- 42:57Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and just go, go, go. Because everything
- 43:00Speaker 1: is kind of like, you know, you're getting them to
- 43:02Speaker 1: get to, they're like horses, right? I mean, in the
- 43:04Speaker 1: sense that you train a horse to run the race,
- 43:07Speaker 1: but every day he doesn't run the race. You're getting
- 43:09Speaker 1: them ready to do the thing. And that's very similar
- 43:13Speaker 1: to football. You're getting everyone ready to get it because
- 43:15Speaker 1: it's a violent game and you just can't do it
- 43:17Speaker 1: every single day or you won't have any players. So
- 43:21Speaker 1: that's the big thing. Like, How does Michael Hawkins perform?
- 43:25Speaker 1: How does DJ Epps, an unbelievable rags-to-riches story, like I've
- 43:31Speaker 1: watched him in preseason, and he makes big boy plays
- 43:34Speaker 1: all the time. When it's on him, does he do that?
- 43:37Speaker 1: Does Jaden Bray? There's so many unknowns. That's what makes
- 43:42Speaker 1: me very excited.
- 43:43Speaker 2: I think one of the knowns is Cam Cook.
- 43:45Speaker 1: Yes.
- 43:46Speaker 2: Yes.
- 43:47Speaker 1: It is.
- 43:48Speaker 2: He has run the ball. He's taken hits. I mean,
- 43:50Speaker 2: to him, it's a continuation of what he has done previously.
- 43:55Speaker 4: Yeah, I have no questions about him. But again, the
- 43:57Speaker 4: running back is so dependent on how Michael Hawkins plays
- 44:00Speaker 4: and how that offensive line plays, right? If you don't
- 44:02Speaker 4: give him any help, Cam Cook's not going to have
- 44:04Speaker 4: anywhere to go. So yeah, I'm with you, Hop. I
- 44:06Speaker 4: don't think there's any question about what he's going to
- 44:07Speaker 4: give you and how he's going to perform. He's got
- 44:09Speaker 4: to have some help around him.
- 44:10Speaker 2: True.
- 44:10Speaker 4: And then that's what I'm saying. That's where some of
- 44:13Speaker 4: these explosives really have a chance. If Michael Hawkins gets
- 44:16Speaker 4: out there, and remember, guys, he hasn't been hit for
- 44:18Speaker 4: how long?
- 44:19Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 44:19Speaker 4: How long has it been since Michael Hawkins has been
- 44:20Speaker 4: hit on a football field? It's been a while. So
- 44:23Speaker 4: he gets that first one out of the way, gets up.
- 44:24Speaker 4: All right, now I'm playing football.
- 44:25Speaker 3: Now we go.
- 44:26Speaker 4: If that starts rolling hop and you're moving guys up
- 44:29Speaker 4: front around the offensive line, that's when now Cook and
- 44:31Speaker 4: Hawkins look out. Yeah. Right?
- 44:33Speaker 3: Among others. Right.
- 44:34Speaker 4: Start to have a chance to really go.
- 44:36Speaker 1: You know, this will only be Michael Hawkins' 10th college game.
- 44:39Speaker 2: Right.
- 44:40Speaker 1: His fifth career start.
- 44:41Speaker 4: Right?
- 44:42Speaker 1: And here's another guy, John Niter, who's looked good in practice.
- 44:45Speaker 1: Comes from Connecticut. Bigger atmosphere here. Does he just continue
- 44:49Speaker 1: to do what he has done, both at UConn and
- 44:51Speaker 1: on the practice field here? Does that translate? I'll give
- 44:54Speaker 1: you another one. Teron Francis, who is a redshirt freshman
- 44:57Speaker 1: transfer from LSU. Like, he's got a body. Like, oof.
- 45:01Speaker 1: You look at that and go, like, that could do. OK, well,
- 45:03Speaker 1: how's he perform? They're trying to get consistency out of him.
- 45:07Speaker 1: Cyrus Traugh. has had a good preseason camp. But in
- 45:10Speaker 1: the program last year, after transferring over, like that dude
- 45:13Speaker 1: can make plays. Keon Hutchins is a guy that's got
- 45:16Speaker 1: great speed. So again, you just don't know. You have
- 45:19Speaker 1: to let the horses run and see what it looks like.
- 45:22Speaker 3: I thought this was interesting.
- 45:23Speaker 4: Zach Alley said this week, one of the things he's
- 45:25Speaker 4: most concerned about defensively is his guy's nerves and handling
- 45:29Speaker 4: the environment. You start to go down this defensive line
- 45:33Speaker 4: or defensive unit outside of Gabriel and McIntyre and Ben Cutter,
- 45:37Speaker 4: there's not a lot of guys that have played in
- 45:39Speaker 4: environments this big and like this and with the crowd
- 45:42Speaker 4: and so anxious to go. So just thought that was
- 45:44Speaker 4: interesting that Zach pointed that out, that nerves is a
- 45:47Speaker 4: big thing, even though it's a home game. All right,
- 45:49Speaker 4: one last bit on the numbers here. Let's talk basketball
- 45:52Speaker 4: for a second because the schedule, the non-conference schedule, was
- 45:55Speaker 4: officially released earlier this morning. A couple things jump out there.
- 45:58Speaker 4: First of all, three exhibitions this year, taking advantage of
- 46:01Speaker 4: the new rule that you can play three. One on
- 46:05Speaker 4: the road at Maryland. Another, how about this? On the
- 46:09Speaker 4: road at Glenville, headed to the Waco Center down there
- 46:13Speaker 4: at Glenville. You think those fans will be excited for
- 46:15Speaker 4: the Mountaineers to arrive? Great day to be a pioneer
- 46:17Speaker 4: wherever you may be.
- 46:17Speaker 3: It's going to be fun.
- 46:18Speaker 4: You're also facing Wheeling again this year. And I thought
- 46:21Speaker 4: part of that reason is Wheeling did a great job
- 46:24Speaker 4: last year. Chris Richardson does a tremendous job coaching that team,
- 46:27Speaker 4: but is good in an exhibition setting because he runs
- 46:29Speaker 4: good stuff. Runs good stuff, as coaches say, right? One
- 46:32Speaker 4: of the biggest compliments. And will not just run up
- 46:35Speaker 4: and down the floor on you. Will get into some
- 46:37Speaker 4: sets and give you a chance to get a look
- 46:39Speaker 4: against them. Here's the other part that's significant about playing
- 46:42Speaker 4: Wheeling this year. When they visit Hope Coliseum, Hoppy, they
- 46:45Speaker 4: will have a familiar name as you look down the roster.
- 46:49Speaker 4: That would be last name Pitsnoggle. First name Quincy. Quincy
- 46:53Speaker 4: Pitsnoggle suiting up for the Cardinals this year. Has grown
- 46:57Speaker 4: to the size of his father.
- 46:59Speaker 1: 6'11. Really?
- 47:00Speaker 3: Can shoot it.
- 47:01Speaker 4: Has a chance to be a very good player in
- 47:03Speaker 4: the MEC. But Quincy Pitsnagel will be making, I will say,
- 47:07Speaker 4: his return to the Coliseum. Of course, he's been there before.
- 47:10Speaker 4: Been there before, but he's coming back as a player.
- 47:13Speaker 2: 6'11?
- 47:13Speaker 3: For Wheeling, yeah. He got the gene. He got the gene.
- 47:16Speaker 2: 6'11. The fruit did not fall far from the tree.
- 47:18Speaker 4: Eight home games, six away slash neutral site games in
- 47:21Speaker 4: this non-conference schedule. And guys, this is right up there
- 47:23Speaker 4: with one of the most challenging games non-conference games nationally.
- 47:26Speaker 4: You have a chance to win the ACC title. You're
- 47:29Speaker 4: playing three teams from that league and maybe a fourth
- 47:32Speaker 4: if you run into Notre Dame out at the Players'
- 47:34Speaker 4: Era tournament. And Virginia Tech and Pitt in the same
- 47:37Speaker 4: week will be a wild week, but certainly a lot
- 47:40Speaker 4: of fun getting those two traditional rivals in the same week,
- 47:43Speaker 4: four days apart.
- 47:44Speaker 3: So fun basketball season coming, right?
- 47:46Speaker 1: Yeah, North Carolina.
- 47:47Speaker 3: Yeah, they're one of the three ACC opponents.
- 47:49Speaker 1: Friday after Thanksgiving. potentially you could have half of your
- 47:54Speaker 1: non-conference games against power four teams. That's never happened. Is
- 47:59Speaker 1: that a good thing? It can be. It has the
- 48:03Speaker 1: potential to be if you get the Ws, yeah, then
- 48:07Speaker 1: it helps you then. It's like putting a lot of
- 48:09Speaker 1: money in the bank at a high interest rate. You
- 48:11Speaker 1: do that in November and December. That'll pay all season.
- 48:15Speaker 4: Yeah, you win three or four of those, and you
- 48:17Speaker 4: are feeling really good. And again, I credit NCAA basketball
- 48:21Speaker 4: and the selection committee. They don't ding you for playing
- 48:24Speaker 4: these games. You get rewarded for stepping out and playing
- 48:27Speaker 4: a challenging schedule. And it does give you some margin
- 48:29Speaker 4: for error there, Hop. Last year, you only had a
- 48:31Speaker 4: couple of those games and a couple of heartbreaking losses
- 48:34Speaker 4: in those to Clemson and to Ohio State, to name
- 48:36Speaker 4: a few. And so if that goes the wrong way
- 48:38Speaker 4: on you, suddenly you're standing out there. If you only
- 48:41Speaker 4: had a couple... Where are your big non-conference wins? And
- 48:43Speaker 4: they do use that against you, as we saw. So
- 48:46Speaker 4: I like this.
- 48:46Speaker 3: It's a challenge.
- 48:47Speaker 4: You've got a really talented roster, especially if the court
- 48:50Speaker 4: does what we hope it does there with the young men.
- 48:52Speaker 4: And you get Bilo and Javon Buchanan through that. This
- 48:54Speaker 4: will be a really fun basketball season. And it's coming fast.
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- 49:37Speaker 3: He was there for a while.
- 49:38Speaker 1: Yeah. He was going to take it. It goes seven
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- 50:32Speaker 3: Well, I don't want to do that. I want to
- 50:33Speaker 3: try and get Saturday.
- 50:34Speaker 1: I know.
- 50:34Speaker 3: I might have to.
- 50:35Speaker 1: Well, that's a great.
- 50:36Speaker 2: Should I wait to Saturday to get the triple rewards points?
- 50:39Speaker 3: Well, I don't even think it registers there. I think
- 50:41Speaker 3: it just starts you.
- 50:42Speaker 1: You got to do that. All right. So do that.
- 50:43Speaker 1: Triple rewards points every Saturday this fall. Thanks to the
- 50:47Speaker 1: folks at Go Mart. Oh, yeah. Time for Textual Healing,
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- 52:01Speaker 2: Tony, by the way, I'm an organ donor. I want
- 52:04Speaker 2: to wait a while before my organs are done. But
- 52:06Speaker 2: I was at the Heart and Vascular Institute about two
- 52:09Speaker 2: weeks ago, and I was getting a tour, and I
- 52:12Speaker 2: came across this young man from the Eastern Panhandle, 27
- 52:14Speaker 2: years old, was there. When he came in, his heart
- 52:17Speaker 2: was functioning like about 10% or 15%. They stabilized him.
- 52:22Speaker 2: and he was waiting for a heart transplant that would
- 52:24Speaker 2: be performed at WV Medicine. And he and his wife
- 52:26Speaker 2: were there, and they were just, they were, you know, concerned,
- 52:29Speaker 2: but obviously, but just so thrilled that he felt better
- 52:32Speaker 2: and was going to have this new lease on life.
- 52:34Speaker 2: So some amazing stories there.
- 52:36Speaker 1: Yeah, the transplants, that programs, those programs are continuing to grow.
- 52:41Speaker 2: Yes.
- 52:42Speaker 1: Like different organs, and it's just continuing to explode.
- 52:47Speaker 2: All right.
- 52:47Speaker 1: Really super quick here. Again, Buffalo Wild Wings, 6 until 7.30
- 52:51Speaker 1: Thursday night. Tomorrow, Food Court, 4 until 10. Rev Kev's Barbecue,
- 52:56Speaker 1: Connection 304. And the cookies are sold out from Bed
- 53:01Speaker 1: and Cutter's Mom, but receiving some late word might be
- 53:05Speaker 1: about a couple dozen stragglers. So if you didn't pre-order.
- 53:09Speaker 1: There they are. There's the cookie for those of you watching.
- 53:11Speaker 3: O'Mill Cream Pie.
- 53:12Speaker 1: O'Mill Cream Pie. If you didn't order, there may be
- 53:15Speaker 1: a limited number if you get over there. Pretty good
- 53:18Speaker 1: and quick. You can pick some up. Food court, Saturday,
- 53:22Speaker 1: 9 in the morning until 11. 9 in the morning
- 53:25Speaker 1: until 11.
- 53:26Speaker 2: Is that where I get mine? Because I bought five.
- 53:28Speaker 1: Yes, you'll pick them up there. Mountaineer Roasting, we'll have
- 53:31Speaker 1: game day grind. They'll have game day. By the way,
- 53:33Speaker 1: you know you can get a pour over? Did you
- 53:34Speaker 1: know that? You can get a pour over at the
- 53:37Speaker 1: Mountaineer Roasting location of our game day grind. And we
- 53:41Speaker 1: encourage you to do that.
- 53:43Speaker 3: There's a nice picture there.
- 53:44Speaker 1: Did you see that picture? Well, yeah. It's well done.
- 53:45Speaker 2: You can almost smell that coffee.
- 53:47Speaker 4: So you can get a pour over when you order.
- 53:48Speaker 4: So you can go in and right on your left,
- 53:50Speaker 4: you grab one of those bags.
- 53:51Speaker 1: You don't need to grab the bag. They have the
- 53:52Speaker 1: beans behind you.
- 53:53Speaker 3: I know, but you want to take them with you
- 53:55Speaker 3: when you get home.
- 53:56Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 53:56Speaker 4: If you can't get them out and you're roasting it,
- 53:57Speaker 4: you want to take them with you.
- 53:58Speaker 1: So a special thanks to the food court partners, Daniels
- 54:01Speaker 1: of Morgantown, Rocky Simmons Vision Homes, and the folks at
- 54:03Speaker 1: Clear Mountain Bank. We also have live music, not only tonight,
- 54:07Speaker 1: but Friday at the event. By the way, you know
- 54:12Speaker 1: Mike Green, the artist Mike Green. Just want to throw
- 54:16Speaker 1: this out to you. 6 until 9 on Friday. He's
- 54:19Speaker 1: going to be at the Pleasant Street, 123 Pleasant Street Co-op,
- 54:23Speaker 1: his last art show. And he's going to be doing
- 54:25Speaker 1: his presentation. So if you're familiar with Mike Green, well-known
- 54:30Speaker 1: local artist for years in the education system here, 123
- 54:33Speaker 1: Pleasant Street Co-op on Friday from 6 until 9 p.m.
- 54:38Speaker 1: Does really great stuff. You want to take a look
- 54:39Speaker 1: at that.
- 54:40Speaker 2: Hey, speaking of performances, guess who I ran into at
- 54:44Speaker 2: the tax office? Who?
- 54:46Speaker 1: At where?
- 54:47Speaker 2: I was at the tax office.
- 54:49Speaker 1: Paying your property taxes?
- 54:51Speaker 3: Just hanging out?
- 54:52Speaker 2: No, Tony paid his property taxes this week.
- 54:55Speaker 1: How did you know that?
- 54:56Speaker 2: Because you said it.
- 54:57Speaker 1: Oh, I told you?
- 54:59Speaker 2: Because you live your life out loud.
- 55:00Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Is that an attack?
- 55:03Speaker 2: No, it's just an observation. Like, hey, Tony, what's up? Well,
- 55:07Speaker 2: I paid my taxes today. I mean, you live your
- 55:09Speaker 2: life out loud, and that's fine.
- 55:11Speaker 1: But you came back from that trip to Washington saying
- 55:13Speaker 1: you had a guy behind you in this seat that
- 55:15Speaker 1: was talking a lot that pissed you off. So do
- 55:17Speaker 1: I piss you off? Never. Okay. Never.
- 55:19Speaker 2: No, we're boys. I was in the tax office paying taxes.
- 55:24Speaker 2: Who's next to me?
- 55:26Speaker 1: Tell us.
- 55:27Speaker 2: Charles Wesley.
- 55:28Speaker 1: Get out of here.
- 55:29Speaker 2: There we go.
- 55:30Speaker 1: Charles Wesley still pays his taxes? He does.
- 55:34Speaker 3: Of course he does.
- 55:35Speaker 1: Why wouldn't he pay his taxes?
- 55:36Speaker 4: Well, doesn't Chuck have someone handling that for him now?
- 55:38Speaker 4: You mean somebody doing it for him like Conley CPA
- 55:39Speaker 4: or something can take care of that?
- 55:40Speaker 1: I thought Chuck would have people.
- 55:42Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting because he'd just come off a big tour.
- 55:45Speaker 1: He was in Canada. He was everywhere.
- 55:47Speaker 2: He was everywhere. Great audience is a big deal, but
- 55:50Speaker 2: he's going to go.
- 55:51Speaker 1: Pay his tax. Well, he needed that discount before September 1.
- 55:54Speaker 1: That's exactly right.
- 55:55Speaker 2: We were both in there.
- 55:57Speaker 1: I mean, Chuck, they didn't raise Chuck. You know, be
- 55:59Speaker 1: no fool, he's getting that September 1 discount.
- 56:01Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was good to see Charles Wesley there. Oh,
- 56:04Speaker 2: I think he's going to come Friday to Tailgate.
- 56:06Speaker 1: Is he really?
- 56:07Speaker 2: He said he was.
- 56:07Speaker 1: Excellent. He's got the weekend off, doesn't he?
- 56:11Speaker 2: He does, because he's been gone so long, and when
- 56:14Speaker 2: he got back, his wife was like, I'm taking a
- 56:16Speaker 2: girl's break.
- 56:18Speaker 1: He's got the kids.
- 56:18Speaker 2: You got the kids. So I think he's going to
- 56:20Speaker 2: bring the kids to our Tailgate on Friday.
- 56:22Speaker 1: Excellent. I saw his most recent, some of his posts
- 56:25Speaker 1: on Instagram, And he was in Canada, and he was performing.
- 56:29Speaker 1: I mean, the crowd was, like, just awesome and filled.
- 56:33Speaker 1: I mean, what a story.
- 56:34Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
- 56:35Speaker 1: So Chuck pays his own taxes now.
- 56:37Speaker 2: Well, he was working it out. I mean, I was
- 56:39Speaker 2: paying mine. He was paying his.
- 56:40Speaker 1: That's never an easy process. They're good people over there. Oh,
- 56:44Speaker 1: they're great people. But, I mean, someone needs to figure
- 56:48Speaker 1: that thing out and make it dumber. I mean, just, like,
- 56:50Speaker 1: make it more simple. Can you make it more so
- 56:53Speaker 1: these slips? You've got to go in with slips, and
- 56:55Speaker 1: you've got to have it like you've got three slips
- 56:57Speaker 1: over this slip, and now that slip doesn't work because
- 56:59Speaker 1: that was from 2024. Now, you've already paid half of
- 57:02Speaker 1: your 2020. Now, this was your 2020. Do you have
- 57:04Speaker 1: your 26 billion? And now you've got to go over.
- 57:07Speaker 1: You walk over to this room now, and this person
- 57:09Speaker 1: is going to come up, and this person will see
- 57:10Speaker 1: you in one second. But you have this slip here, and,
- 57:12Speaker 1: I mean, I walk out like I just took two
- 57:14Speaker 1: final exams.
- 57:15Speaker 3: This person will see you.
- 57:17Speaker 1: In just a minute.
- 57:19Speaker 2: It is a tad complicated.
- 57:20Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 57:22Speaker 2: I'll leave that, but you go in like, look, I
- 57:23Speaker 2: have my checkbook. Yeah.
- 57:26Speaker 1: What do you want? Exactly what I do. What do
- 57:28Speaker 1: you want? You're like a kid when you go to
- 57:30Speaker 1: a candy store. Here's all my money. Just tell me
- 57:31Speaker 1: what I can get.
- 57:33Speaker 2: Brad, who pays your taxes?
- 57:34Speaker 3: I have a wife that's a certified financial planner.
- 57:37Speaker 2: So you don't even know.
- 57:37Speaker 4: You have no idea. I'm doing what Chuck should be doing.
- 57:41Speaker 4: I've got a great advisor. I've got a great money person.
- 57:43Speaker 3: She handles it.
- 57:44Speaker 2: So you don't even know where the tax office is.
- 57:45Speaker 4: I don't even know you pay taxes, quite frankly. Certified
- 57:53Speaker 4: financial planner there, Hop.
- 57:54Speaker 2: You might be in arrears.
- 57:55Speaker 3: One of the best around. I think we're pretty buttoned up.
- 57:59Speaker 3: I think we're on it.
- 58:00Speaker 1: By the way, did I shout out Clear Mountain Stage?
- 58:03Speaker 1: We're doing the Clear Mountain Stage for the music this
- 58:04Speaker 1: year at the food court. Again, this is a great
- 58:07Speaker 1: organization on campus, Mon Hills Records. We do have WVU
- 58:11Speaker 1: student musicians. They do everything. They do the audio. They perform.
- 58:15Speaker 1: They're fantastic. And so we're putting a light on those
- 58:17Speaker 1: guys thanks to the Clear Mountain Bank folks, Clear Mountain Corner.
- 58:20Speaker 1: We do appreciate that. All right, here we go. Matthew
- 58:25Speaker 1: in Charlotte writes, Tony, let's go Mountaineers. I saw a
- 58:30Speaker 1: report online that Mike Hawkins won the starting quarterback job.
- 58:33Speaker 1: Rich said it was still a competition on his radio show.
- 58:37Speaker 1: Is he playing coy or is this still a legitimate competition?
- 58:41Speaker 1: Let's go forward. Looking forward to the game here in
- 58:43Speaker 1: Charlotte against UVA. I think one of It's never been,
- 58:54Speaker 1: I think this, that Mike Hawkins was brought in and
- 58:59Speaker 1: he was going to be the starting quarterback unless he
- 59:03Speaker 1: screwed up. I don't think he screwed up. That's not
- 59:07Speaker 1: to take one thing away from Scotty. point, it's Michael Hawkins.
- 59:12Speaker 1: And I think you're allowed to have two really good
- 59:15Speaker 1: quarterbacks on your roster at the same time. It doesn't
- 59:19Speaker 1: happen often. It's happened a few times here at West
- 59:21Speaker 1: Virginia where you've got two really good quarterbacks at the
- 59:24Speaker 1: same time. I think West Virginia at this point has
- 59:27Speaker 1: two really good quarterbacks on its roster at the same time.
- 59:30Speaker 1: And if your.
- 59:31Speaker 2: Quarterback is going to run a lot, you need to.
- 59:33Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. We've had, I mean, you go through
- 59:37Speaker 1: the years, we've had some guys, right? Yeah. Remember Jawan Sider?
- 59:42Speaker 2: Yes.
- 59:43Speaker 1: Jawan Sider had to leave to go play. And because
- 59:46Speaker 1: we had quarterback in front of him, the late Browning
- 59:50Speaker 1: Nagel left because Major Harris was the quarterback. So it
- 59:54Speaker 1: happens sometimes. So you're dealing with a position of strength there. But,
- 59:59Speaker 1: you know, you can expect to see Mike Hawkins as
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: the quarterback when they go out there on Saturday.
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: Does Scotty Fox get in Saturday?
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he does. Okay. Text or just a six-word text.
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: What is the plan of attack? Run. Win.
- 1:00:20Speaker 2: Execute, right? Let's use coach speak.
- 1:00:22Speaker 3: Execute.
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: Will in Connecticut. Guys, I'll be on the golf course Saturday.
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: I'm out of market. Looking for a radio stream. Can
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: you point me in the right direction? I'd say Varsity
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: Network app is reliable. And, I mean, WVAQ in Morgantown
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: is now going to carry the games. It'll be on
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: their stream as well.
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: W-A-J-R.
- 1:00:45Speaker 3: W-A-J-R.com.
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: W-A-J-R.com.
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: If you want to pull your browser.
- 1:00:47Speaker 3: Up and hit it there.
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: Texter, gentlemen, a belated happy birthday to former Mountaineer basketball
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: and baseball athlete Paul Popovich, who turned 86 August 18,
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: played 11 years in the majors, primarily for the Cubs. Additionally,
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: still holds the West Virginia High School basketball single season
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: scoring record of 42 points per game while playing for
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: the Flemington Greyhounds. Look at there, Hop. There's his baseball card.
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: Played 11 years in the majors.
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: Wow.
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: He is the Number one all-time player at Flemington High School.
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: Second best player, I would think, at Flemington would be
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: Michael Fregale.
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: Of course.
- 1:01:30Speaker 3: I don't think there's much doubt.
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: Right?
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: Absolutely.
- 1:01:32Speaker 3: Not much doubt about that.
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: Who runs a sports communications office. He was a point
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: guard there for the Greyhounds. They no longer exist.
- 1:01:38Speaker 4: Was Mike Carrier a coach there for a while at
- 1:01:40Speaker 4: Flemington High School?
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: He was.
- 1:01:42Speaker 3: Did he get a start in there?
- 1:01:43Speaker 4: You know, Paul Popovich, when I was in the department
- 1:01:45Speaker 4: real quickly here, remember the year the Coliseum was closed
- 1:01:48Speaker 4: for asbestos removal? We had an office out on Collins
- 1:01:51Speaker 4: Ferry Road, and Paul Popovich would come out occasionally to
- 1:01:54Speaker 4: see Michael and would sit down and we'd have some
- 1:01:56Speaker 4: conversations with him.
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: Would Paul acknowledge that Michael was the second best player?
- 1:02:00Speaker 3: I think he did. I think he did.
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: Hey, three guys, longtime listener, infrequent texter, getting caught up
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: on episodes and Brad's story about hearing Country Roads and
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: Sweet Caroline in quick succession while at the beach. Well,
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: my family was at a resort in St. Lucia a
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: couple years ago during the resort's country and western theme night.
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: They had a band playing both kinds of music, country
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: and western. The band closed that part of their show
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: with Country Roads. After a short break, they resumed playing
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: the second song in the set, Sweet Caroline.
- 1:02:32Speaker 2: Oh, my.
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: You should have seen the looks on the people as
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: we belted out the ESP version.
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: Same. Country's still catching on to that part.
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: Yeah. This gentleman here has been texting us. He's on
- 1:02:47Speaker 1: a 92-week cruise around the world three times.
- 1:02:50Speaker 3: So good.
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: Writes in, still exploring the Mediterranean. Today we were in Marseille, France.
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: We did a ship's tour of the highlights of the town.
- 1:02:58Speaker 1: Then we had some free time. Then we run into
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: Ken and Grace from Manhattan, Kansas. The couple said they're
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: K-State alums and they're on a different cruise ship. They
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: said they follow KSU everywhere but will be home Saturday
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: for their game against Nichols State. He graduated from their
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: school of agriculture. I've learned to wear my West Virginia
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: hat whenever I leave the ship. There's Tim. He's on
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: that 92-week cruise around the world. Might be going to
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: the moon, too, by the time he gets back. That's
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: pretty neat. It's a good gig. Hey, three guys. By
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: the way, K-State people, very similar to West Virginia people.
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: Very similar, yes.
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: Iowa State people. K-State people. Very hospitable. Oklahoma State people.
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: We're all the same. Same people.
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: Different logos.
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: It's not like playing... Well, I'm not going to infuriate anybody.
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: Hey, three guys, Joe in Bluffton, South Carolina. I was
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: doing a scheduled deep dive, and a couple of things
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: stuck out to me. Only four true road games this season,
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: so I go back. And it's happened three times in
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: the last 10 years where you've only had four road games,
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: but two of those are aberrations. 2020 COVID, we went
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: six and four. 2018, the NC State game was canceled
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: due to Hurricane Florence. 2016, the last time it happened
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: without a pandemic or a hurricane, WVU went 10 up
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: and 2 down.
- 1:04:18Speaker 2: Causation correlation.
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: The other note I found was that West Virginia plays
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: four opponents with first-year head coaches this year. Coastal, Oklahoma State,
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: Iowa State, and Utah's. I can't imagine that's happened in
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: recent history, if ever. Might need some help from Brad
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: on going back and finding those numbers. Let's take advantage
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: of this schedule. Starting with a win Saturday. Love the
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: show and always. Let's go, Mountaineers.
- 1:04:46Speaker 4: That is one of the things I think you're optimistic
- 1:04:48Speaker 4: about from the schedule is that now it's time for
- 1:04:50Speaker 4: others to try and implement programs with first-year head coaches.
- 1:04:53Speaker 4: So will you win every one of those games? I
- 1:04:55Speaker 4: don't know, but certainly like to take our chance with
- 1:04:57Speaker 4: a first-year head coach as opposed to some of the
- 1:04:59Speaker 4: guys that left.
- 1:05:01Speaker 3: Mike Gundy, had.
- 1:05:02Speaker 4: He coached a few games there at Oklahoma State? Matt Campbell,
- 1:05:06Speaker 4: a ridiculously long run given Iowa State's history and their program, Hoppy,
- 1:05:09Speaker 4: well-documented over their 100 years. the best 10-year period they've
- 1:05:12Speaker 4: ever had, not even really close for the Cyclones. They've
- 1:05:15Speaker 4: got to try and reboot that and stay in line
- 1:05:18Speaker 4: with something they've never been.
- 1:05:19Speaker 3: That's a challenge.
- 1:05:21Speaker 4: And Utah, Kyle Whittingham, I mean, he did a pretty
- 1:05:24Speaker 4: good job. Was there a long time?
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: Well, good enough to get a job in Michigan.
- 1:05:26Speaker 4: Yeah, those aren't gimmies for those three programs to get
- 1:05:28Speaker 4: restarted here.
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: Texter writes, in the spirit of the Benson Bowl happening,
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: I have an interesting over-under for you three or two
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: or four, depending on the day. What will be higher,
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: the number of miles President Benson exercises this week leading
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: up to the game or Coastal Carolina's point total?
- 1:05:48Speaker 3: Not close.
- 1:05:49Speaker 4: Benson, regardless of what the second part of that question was.
- 1:05:53Speaker 4: The miles President Benson walks, moves, exercises.
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: For Rich's sake, let's get to the exercise mile total.
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: Glad this season is here. Let's go. Texter writes... Hey,
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: three guys, last football. This is wild. This is bizarre.
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: Last football season, my wife and I are staying in
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: the sea cabins at the Isle of Palms in Charleston,
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: South Carolina, on the day of the opener. I tuned
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: in to watch the game on the YouTube TV and
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: found that the previous guest was still logged in. I
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: had to chuckle when I saw their profile. Turns out
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: it was none other than Chase Harler, who had stayed
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: there before. Well, there it is. He took a picture.
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: Who's watching? There's Chase with a ball. Guess we'll be
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: watching the opener this year. The same little spot as
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: last year. So he'll be back in that motel. We'll
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: see on Saturday if Chase is also a creature of habit. Oh,
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: my gosh. That's great.
- 1:06:52Speaker 3: That's a good one.
- 1:06:53Speaker 2: Wait till Chase gets his streaming bill, though. Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: Chris and Johnson City, Tennessee.
- 1:06:58Speaker 3: Showing home there. Couldn't get logged in.
- 1:07:00Speaker 2: Couldn't get logged in. Somebody logged in.
- 1:07:02Speaker 3: Another device already in use.
- 1:07:03Speaker 2: That's actually not that unusual because it was South Carolina.
- 1:07:07Speaker 2: And West Virginians are just, you know.
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: Sure.
- 1:07:10Speaker 3: That's a good one. Texter.
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: Over under 69 and a half. The total rushes for
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: both teams combined on Saturday. 69 and a half.
- 1:07:20Speaker 2: Over.
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, too. I would think so. This
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: is a pretty wild picture. September 2004, West Virginia at
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: Central Florida. Pat White wearing number eight before becoming a legend.
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: You see him here on the left hand. He's the
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: most outside guy on the left. Also, if you see
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: the guy in the end zone with the blue shirt
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: looking at the guys, Bill Stewart.
- 1:07:44Speaker 3: You can tell, can't you?
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: Yep.
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: That's Bill's, Stu's plant. Arms folded. And Pat was wearing eight.
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: And Pat was wearing eight because Chris Henry was wearing five.
- 1:07:52Speaker 3: That's pretty good.
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: Then Chris took five.
- 1:07:54Speaker 4: It's a pretty good baton pass on number five.
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:07:59Speaker 3: Chris Henry to Patrick.
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: Pat said that he's really hoping that West Virginia's current
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: number five, Jaden Bray, who will become the last to
- 1:08:07Speaker 1: wear number five, just has an incredible year this year.
- 1:08:10Speaker 3: It's a good one.
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: Yeah. Texter writes, hello. He wrote it in all capital letters,
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: which just made me remember. Remember when you used to
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: shout those out, Brad?
- 1:08:19Speaker 4: You haven't done that in a while. Your voice getting
- 1:08:21Speaker 4: worried there? Nah, getting ready for a game. You can't
- 1:08:24Speaker 4: do that. I'm not doing anything crazy.
- 1:08:25Speaker 3: That's for like May.
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: That was a long time ago. We used to just
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: shout out the names.
- 1:08:31Speaker 2: And that comes from Larry King. The late Larry King.
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: Toledo, hello. Hey, this is Big Rob. This is Big
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: Rob from Montgomery. Is that fair? Yeah, I do think so.
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: I do think so. But as we said earlier, Rob,
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: they think they probably line i draw that conclusion from
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: the absence of the oars on the ol is that
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: fair yeah i do think so i do think so
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: but as we said earlier uh rob they think they
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: probably have nine that they could trust also now here
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: we go these tomatoes i bought at a farmer's market
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: earlier this spring they were labeled as san marzano tomatoes
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: look at these hop how did i do you did
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: really really well Look.
- 1:09:15Speaker 2: Do you think they are?
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: Yeah, they are. He got the seeds. Look at those
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: bad boys. He got a little basil underneath those.
- 1:09:20Speaker 2: Beautiful, beautiful.
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: And he had a good, yeah, those are San Marzano.
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: Those are sweet. Those are sugary. And there he is, man.
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: Got a nice garden going. That's a nice garden. Yeah.
- 1:09:30Speaker 2: Got a fence up to keep the deer out.
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: This is the time of the year when people who
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: have gardens get too much, and they bring that to people.
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: And my guy, Dennis, who was one of the guys
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: that was a construction guy when we built our house, uh,
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: last year, he didn't do a garden. So he shows
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: up unexpected on Sunday. And he said, did a garden
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: this year, goes in the back of his truck, brought
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: me about eight to 10 pounds of red and white potatoes.
- 1:10:00Speaker 3: Zucchini.
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: Yeah. Zucchini, two yellow ones. Um, really nice tomatoes, both
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: cherry tomatoes and regular sized tomatoes. And, um, Boy, that
- 1:10:14Speaker 1: was good stuff. Just a total difference when you eat
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: this stuff.
- 1:10:16Speaker 2: It is a time of year when there's no tomatoes,
- 1:10:18Speaker 2: no tomatoes, and then people just start bringing them to
- 1:10:21Speaker 2: your house.
- 1:10:21Speaker 1: They're like rabbits.
- 1:10:22Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: Texter. Hey, three guys, I have a question. If Matt
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: Sig is going to be possible two-way player, maybe get
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: a play or two of him on offense or... What
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: do they do about him and Hawkins having the same number?
- 1:10:37Speaker 3: Good question.
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: Sig wears three. Hawkins wears three. Or does it not matter? No,
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: it matters.
- 1:10:42Speaker 3: Can't have two threes.
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: Can't have two threes.
- 1:10:44Speaker 4: There will be another jersey that Sig will change into.
- 1:10:47Speaker 2: So I was looking at the depth chart. Is Sig
- 1:10:49Speaker 2: kickoff return and punt return? Or is he the or?
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: It's a backup.
- 1:10:52Speaker 2: Is he the or?
- 1:10:53Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the or.
- 1:10:53Speaker 2: OK.
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: He's the or. What are you doing?
- 1:11:03Speaker 4: Well.
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: I've been hearing a lot of people seem to be
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: all over the fullback for the world champion Mountaineers.
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: Caden Luke?
- 1:11:14Speaker 1: Caden Luke.
- 1:11:15Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. He's already a celebrity.
- 1:11:18Speaker 1: Pat that one down, folks.
- 1:11:20Speaker 2: What are you saying?
- 1:11:24Speaker 1: He's going to get used, but don't think he's going
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: to carry the ball a lot.
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: It ain't going to happen.
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: No. He's going to be a blocker. He'll get a
- 1:11:31Speaker 1: carry or two, but like. If he has 25 carries
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: by the time the year's over, that's a lot.
- 1:11:36Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: I mean, one or two a game, maybe. But I
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: think sometimes people think he's going to be the next
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: coming of Owen Schmidt. It's a different time. Different time.
- 1:11:45Speaker 3: Well, I haven't seen a true fullback here in a while.
- 1:11:47Speaker 3: People are excited. Oh, sure.
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying that.
- 1:11:51Speaker 4: You've got some other really talented ball carriers there.
- 1:11:53Speaker 3: See, that's what's interesting, though. Short yardage.
- 1:11:55Speaker 4: I mean, you've got a 230-pound tailback you can put
- 1:11:58Speaker 4: in there with an Amari ladder if you want to
- 1:12:00Speaker 4: just jam and just run it right up in there.
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:12:02Speaker 2: You see Latimer's thighs.
- 1:12:04Speaker 3: Big boy.
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: Very strong young man.
- 1:12:07Speaker 3: Let's play.
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: Greg from Bridgeport.
- 1:12:09Speaker 2: He says, let's play.
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: Greg from Bridgeport writes, will we get this year's Big
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: 12 conference basketball schedule before we get the 2027 football
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: conference schedule? Fair question.
- 1:12:22Speaker 3: It's been taking a while. I'm told close.
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: Oh, really?
- 1:12:26Speaker 3: I'm told close.
- 1:12:27Speaker 1: Have they had the review copies go out yet?
- 1:12:28Speaker 3: I don't know that, but I'm told close.
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: Texter, Michael and Culloden. He's the guy that brought us
- 1:12:34Speaker 1: that fudge that time.
- 1:12:35Speaker 3: It was very good.
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: Was that peanut butter or was that just regular fudge?
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: I think it was peanut butter and chocolate. He asked,
- 1:12:41Speaker 1: what if we zag on Saturday when everyone else thinks
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: we will zig? For example, first play, go for the
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: deep pass when everyone thinks we are going to run
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: Cam Cook.
- 1:12:52Speaker 4: As much as Ryan Beards talked about knowing Rich wants
- 1:12:55Speaker 4: to run it and you got a new offensive line,
- 1:12:56Speaker 4: I'd be stunned if you didn't. But if you do
- 1:12:59Speaker 4: decide to do that, guys, it might look like that
- 1:13:01Speaker 4: play at the end of the half against Rutgers the
- 1:13:04Speaker 4: first year when Chris Henry, the closest people to him
- 1:13:07Speaker 4: were in the press box. Rutgers coach Shiano there a
- 1:13:11Speaker 4: little bit confused about what was happening there.
- 1:13:13Speaker 3: Chris Henry goes down the.
- 1:13:14Speaker 4: Sideline in an 80-7 win for the world champions.
- 1:13:17Speaker 2: I would think that that's the kind of thing you
- 1:13:19Speaker 2: think about Like when you've all been talking about when
- 1:13:21Speaker 2: you're waiting months for the game, I would think the
- 1:13:23Speaker 2: first play is your handoff to Kim Cook.
- 1:13:26Speaker 1: Okay, yes, but let's talk about this a little bit.
- 1:13:30Speaker 2: All right.
- 1:13:31Speaker 1: See, I think that you do it because that's going
- 1:13:34Speaker 1: to become your trademark, but I just don't do it
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: out of any kind of a conventional set. I do
- 1:13:40Speaker 1: something so I have at least a maximum number of blockers. Like,
- 1:13:46Speaker 1: I might go two tight ends. I'm doing something where
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: I'm going to overload the living pea out of it
- 1:13:53Speaker 1: so I can have a positive play. Like, I'm not
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: just going, like, two twins to each side and just
- 1:13:58Speaker 1: try to do it. I'm going to bring somebody over.
- 1:14:01Speaker 1: I want someone coming in. I'm going to power you
- 1:14:04Speaker 1: really hard right off the bat and hit you right
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: in the face.
- 1:14:07Speaker 4: We've had a long time to speculate, do hypotheticals, think
- 1:14:10Speaker 4: about things. Do you think Rich has that first play?
- 1:14:11Speaker 4: They've drawn up.
- 1:14:13Speaker 2: I think Rich is anxious, so.
- 1:14:16Speaker 3: Jam it right in. Let's go.
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: Run it.
- 1:14:17Speaker 3: Let's go.
- 1:14:18Speaker 1: You want to pound it, right?
- 1:14:18Speaker 3: Let's go. Pound it right at them.
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:14:22Speaker 3: Be physical. Yeah, be physical.
- 1:14:24Speaker 4: Because there's nothing better in sports, guys. There's a lot
- 1:14:28Speaker 4: of great about sports. There is nothing better than when
- 1:14:31Speaker 4: your opponent knows exactly what you're going to do, and
- 1:14:34Speaker 4: you do it anyway.
- 1:14:35Speaker 2: Exactly.
- 1:14:36Speaker 4: So whether that's a fastball pitcher when you line up
- 1:14:38Speaker 4: and sales that right, you want to see the signals,
- 1:14:39Speaker 4: pitch calm, you want to hear it, I'll tell you
- 1:14:41Speaker 4: what's coming.
- 1:14:41Speaker 2: Here's coming. See what you can do.
- 1:14:42Speaker 4: Here comes a 95-mile-an-hour fastball going in, 99-mile-an-hour fastball. And
- 1:14:45Speaker 4: in football, what's the equivalent to the 99-mile-an-hour fastball ball?
- 1:14:48Speaker 2: We're going to run it.
- 1:14:50Speaker 4: Don't worry about the headset mics. Don't worry about the
- 1:14:52Speaker 4: hand signals you're stealing. We'll just tell you. We're running it,
- 1:14:55Speaker 4: and it's going to be Cam Cook on the first carry.
- 1:14:58Speaker 2: Because our guys are better than your guys.
- 1:15:00Speaker 1: Run it.
- 1:15:01Speaker 3: Get back to that.
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: When we were cranking it up here with Rich in
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: his first tour, you never heard anybody within the football
- 1:15:10Speaker 1: program go, well, they had us outnumbered in the box.
- 1:15:13Speaker 3: Box was irrelevant.
- 1:15:14Speaker 1: They never, they like, how many are you going to put?
- 1:15:16Speaker 1: It doesn't matter to us how many you're going to
- 1:15:18Speaker 1: put in the box. I don't care.
- 1:15:20Speaker 4: I don't think Pat ever had to count what was
- 1:15:22Speaker 4: in the box.
- 1:15:22Speaker 1: No, just like we're running it regardless.
- 1:15:24Speaker 2: How many do you think over, back to Pat White,
- 1:15:28Speaker 2: how many teams do you think loaded the box.
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: In four years?
- 1:15:32Speaker 4: All of them, and very few had success. And so
- 1:15:34Speaker 4: that's what's going to be fun to watch. That's, of
- 1:15:36Speaker 4: all the things I'm watching, start with that offensive line.
- 1:15:40Speaker 4: Can it start to get you back? to what you
- 1:15:42Speaker 4: were and what you've been when you've been great, and
- 1:15:45Speaker 4: you can run it under Rich Rodriguez when you want
- 1:15:47Speaker 4: to run it.
- 1:15:47Speaker 1: Yes. I talked to an ultra-successful football coach this morning
- 1:15:52Speaker 1: who's no longer involved, but had unbelievable success. And he said,
- 1:15:59Speaker 1: if Rich can run and his defense can stop the run,
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: he wins. So if you want to know all the
- 1:16:06Speaker 1: analytics and everything you want to know, he goes, if
- 1:16:09Speaker 1: they can consistently run the ball and they can stop
- 1:16:11Speaker 1: the run It'll be a good year, and they'll have
- 1:16:15Speaker 1: good success.
- 1:16:15Speaker 2: Why do you think that Pat White and Steve Slayton
- 1:16:17Speaker 2: ran the ball so much?
- 1:16:19Speaker 1: Because they couldn't stop it.
- 1:16:20Speaker 2: Because they could.
- 1:16:20Speaker 1: Exactly right.
- 1:16:22Speaker 3: All right, let's play.
- 1:16:23Speaker 2: Let's go.
- 1:16:24Speaker 3: No more hypotheticals.
- 1:16:25Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:16:25Speaker 3: We play.
- 1:16:26Speaker 1: Finally. Okay, so we're back on Sunday, and I'm sure
- 1:16:30Speaker 1: our text line will be filled with, what do they
- 1:16:33Speaker 1: call it, overreaction?
- 1:16:34Speaker 4: No, there will be no overreactions, I'm sure. It'll be
- 1:16:37Speaker 4: perfectly balanced.
- 1:16:38Speaker 2: We'll be perfectly balanced.
- 1:16:39Speaker 3: We won't overreact to anything.
- 1:16:39Speaker 2: There will be a question about the first down call.
- 1:16:41Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see.
- 1:16:42Speaker 3: We will not overreact.
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: Special thanks to our producer, director, Mr.
- 1:16:47Speaker 2: Jake.
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: We'll release our next episode Sunday afternoon before 1 o'clock.
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- 1:17:29Speaker 3: We're out.
- 1:17:30Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll run into each other at some time this
- 1:17:32Speaker 1: football weekend. Stay well, and we'll see you down the road.