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Mac & Bone Hour 2: Panthers/Texans Joint Practice Takeaways · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:19
  Speaker 1: Again, it's practice.
• 0:20
  Speaker 2: They have a great rush out there, great group. I
• 0:23
  Speaker 2: have all the confidence in the world in our guys
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: up front.
• 0:25
  Speaker 3: We're all competitors.
• 0:26
  Speaker 2: Obviously, we all want to go out there and score.
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: For sure, throws and decisions, I want back. There's routes
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: on the outside.
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: Guys want back.
• 0:35
  Speaker 3: There's cuts.
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: Running backs want back. Same up front. Everyone feels that
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: way about today. There's definitely no finger pointing. It's no
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: one group, one person.
• 0:43
  Speaker 4: It's all of us. We've got to be better.
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: There you go. That is Bryce Young. Doesn't want to
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: just single out the pass protection, and he probably shouldn't because,
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, he threw some footballs that were just ill-advised.
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: He dropped the ball at one point, had a ball
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: knocked out of his hands. I mean, he had three turnovers.
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: It was not his best day either, but every bit
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: of it was because of pressure. He didn't make any mistakes.
• 1:07
  Speaker 4: All right, what a great day.
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: There you go. Dave still felt good when he stepped
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: to the press conference yesterday.
• 1:13
  Speaker 5: That's what Finney says when he walks into Jersey Bikes
• 1:15
  Speaker 5: on a Tuesday and still can't get a phone number.
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: Everybody, bring that Canales energy. No matter how bad things
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: are going, bring this energy right here, baby.
• 1:31
  Speaker 6: All right, what a great day.
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: There you go, Fit. Have that on standby for us, Fit.
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: We all need that today. Your speech, Mac, to have
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: that ready. It didn't last until the second hour of
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: the show. That's all right. Hey, it's preseason for us, too, baby.
• 1:43
  Speaker 7: Well, truth be told, I was sitting on the next
• 1:45
  Speaker 7: cut to play because we got a bunch of sound
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  Speaker 7: to play.
• 1:47
  Speaker 8: I wasn't prepared to be. Playing sound effects back to back.
• 1:50
  Speaker 1: My bad, though.
• 1:51
  Speaker 8: My bad. It was the pass rush got in the way.
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: It's all right, baby. Blame it on Daniil Hunter and
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: his giant arms. Our offensive line struggled a little bit
• 1:58
  Speaker 1: today over there. Bro, did you see that picture of
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: Daniil Hunter's arms yesterday? I don't know if y'all saw that.
• 2:04
  Speaker 8: Did you see his veins?
• 2:06
  Speaker 1: The veins in those arms. Are you freaking kidding me, dude?
• 2:09
  Speaker 1: Imagine spending two hours and I guess... I guess yesterday,
• 2:14
  Speaker 1: like Bryce knows that dude can't clobber you. He can
• 2:17
  Speaker 1: just kind of hug you and hold you. But imagine
• 2:21
  Speaker 1: being a quarterback and that dude's coming after you. And oh,
• 2:25
  Speaker 1: by the way, on the other side is Will Anderson.
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: What a defense. I mean, that's the thing. What a
• 2:29
  Speaker 1: damn defense. It isn't like, Bone, we got torn apart by,
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: you know, one of the worst defenses in football. Those
• 2:36
  Speaker 1: guys are ridiculous.
• 2:37
  Speaker 5: That's why I'm glad I'm no longer playing the game
• 2:39
  Speaker 5: and I'm just talking the game after seeing those guys
• 2:42
  Speaker 5: up close yesterday.
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: Buckeye Dave says, typical Bryce, stop making excuses for him.
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: We're not making excuses. We were watching the practice, and
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you that those turnovers are not good, but
• 2:55
  Speaker 1: every one was because of pressure. None of them were
• 2:58
  Speaker 1: in clean pocket. I'm telling you, the pressure percentage must
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: have been 65%. It was, it was ridiculous. Seven, seven
• 3:08
  Speaker 1: times sacked Freeling beat by hunters four times. I mean,
• 3:12
  Speaker 1: it was horrible. The Bryce's reaction to the pressure was
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: not ideal bone. I'm, I'm, I'm telling you that, but
• 3:19
  Speaker 1: I'm also telling you, man, it was a butt whooping
• 3:22
  Speaker 1: on the edges. That was the thing that was, and,
• 3:26
  Speaker 1: and the cut, listen, coverage moments were great too, but
• 3:31
  Speaker 1: They forced three turnovers. I thought our defense was good,
• 3:34
  Speaker 1: but we didn't force one turnover. So it was a
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: butt whooping, man. It was a butt whooping.
• 3:39
  Speaker 5: Three Wing hasn't seen something move that fast since his
• 3:42
  Speaker 5: teammates at Georgia on a parkway.
• 3:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, man, there you go, Monroe. A little humor, Monroe,
• 3:49
  Speaker 1: to make you feel better today. By the way, Dave Canales, though, because, again,
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: this was just practice. As upsetting as it was to
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: watch this yesterday for the offense, it is just practice.
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: They are able to take this information in and use
• 4:03
  Speaker 1: it as they plan for the Bears opener. And Dave Canales, Bone,
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: as he always does, is looking for the bright side.
• 4:10
  Speaker 1: He says this was a good day of learning for
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: rookie Monroe Freelink.
• 4:15
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's fantastic. I mean, this is what he needs.
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  Speaker 6: This is what Monroe needs as he works his fundamentals,
• 4:20
  Speaker 6: his technique, all the little different things. It just gets
• 4:23
  Speaker 6: magnified when you play two rushers like this. And we
• 4:26
  Speaker 6: didn't need the one-on-one pass rush. We got that in
• 4:28
  Speaker 6: the natural flow of things. And so there's a lot
• 4:30
  Speaker 6: of good tape to coach off of.
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: Is he too positive? Is he too upbeat? Or is
• 4:36
  Speaker 1: he just being himself? He's being himself. I will say, though.
• 4:40
  Speaker 1: All right, what a great day. Thank you, Dave.
• 4:41
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 4:43
  Speaker 5: He does sound more like early Canales with the upbeat
• 4:47
  Speaker 5: positivity stuff. Because I think he's sort of... He's always
• 4:52
  Speaker 5: going to be himself, but I feel like we haven't
• 4:54
  Speaker 5: really heard as much over-the-top stuff like that. But yesterday
• 4:57
  Speaker 5: definitely was trying to put the pig on the lipstick.
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, he... Or the lipstick. You want to
• 5:02
  Speaker 1: put the lipstick on the pig, yeah. Yeah, get that straight.
• 5:05
  Speaker 1: You want to reverse that around. That wouldn't make much sense.
• 5:09
  Speaker 1: He acknowledged... It was lopsided. He acknowledged they were way
• 5:13
  Speaker 1: better than us. Like he acknowledged all that, but he
• 5:17
  Speaker 1: also like, that's the most upbeat thing you could say
• 5:19
  Speaker 1: about your rookie tackle. Giving up four sacks is it
• 5:23
  Speaker 1: was great. It was fantastic. Like, you know what I mean?
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: It was, I don't know. It's his tone is bothering
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: the text line a little bit today, but in fairness,
• 5:31
  Speaker 1: everything is bothering Panther fans today, except for us. Oh, no,
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: we'd never bother y'all. We would never bother y'all Panther fans. Mack,
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: I say this all the time.
• 5:42
  Speaker 7: Like, I want my coach after a practice like yesterday
• 5:45
  Speaker 7: to go in there and be upset, rough with the media.
• 5:49
  Speaker 8: But first off, that's not who he is.
• 5:52
  Speaker 1: No, no, he's not.
• 5:53
  Speaker 7: And this generation of coach, that's not who they are. Like,
• 5:58
  Speaker 7: how many coaches in the Dave Canales age frame? late 30s,
• 6:02
  Speaker 7: early 40s, are like Parcells-like.
• 6:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Like, that's what I want as a sports fan. But
• 6:11
  Speaker 8: this breed, and it's not just in football, it's in basketball. Bone,
• 6:15
  Speaker 8: you see it in baseball.
• 6:16
  Speaker 7: You're not going to see these dudes get behind a
• 6:19
  Speaker 7: microphone and consistently rip the crap out of their team,
• 6:24
  Speaker 7: whether they deserve it or not. Now, I think privately,
• 6:27
  Speaker 7: we were in that building yesterday waiting for interviews. I
• 6:30
  Speaker 7: bet you privately he got after them. He's not going
• 6:32
  Speaker 7: to do it in a public forum.
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: There's no need.
• 6:34
  Speaker 5: It's a practice. He wouldn't even do it after a game.
• 6:37
  Speaker 5: We're not in the era of old crusties as much
• 6:39
  Speaker 5: as we used to be. It's not the crusty era.
• 6:41
  Speaker 5: Because the players are different. Players are different. Players respond
• 6:45
  Speaker 5: differently to that, right, probably. But, yeah, I'm sure. And
• 6:49
  Speaker 5: I'm sure coordinators and position coaches. Oh, I'm sure this tape.
• 6:53
  Speaker 5: I'm sure all the coaches won't be like, this is
• 6:55
  Speaker 5: a fantastic teaching tape.
• 6:57
  Speaker 1: Like, no. But with that said, he was a little.
• 7:02
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have expected fantastic. From what I know. But
• 7:07
  Speaker 1: I get it. He's just being himself. And listen, they
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: learned yesterday. They learned. Now they got to adjust. And
• 7:13
  Speaker 1: I will say this. The Bears defense is nowhere near
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: as good as that defense.
• 7:17
  Speaker 3: You are.
• 7:17
  Speaker 1: I will say that.
• 7:18
  Speaker 5: By the way, Joe Gilbert, the offensive line coach, not
• 7:21
  Speaker 5: necessarily Mac, a happy-go-lucky offshucks guy. I'm pretty sure those
• 7:25
  Speaker 5: guys got absolutely destroyed by Joe Gilbert.
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: Don't think that everyone is.
• 7:31
  Speaker 9: Is.
• 7:31
  Speaker 8: Sunshine and Rainbows?
• 7:32
  Speaker 5: The front, like Canales puts up, Joe Gilbert, we know
• 7:35
  Speaker 5: and see him on video and hear him, that dude
• 7:38
  Speaker 5: will get after these guys. No doubt about that. Yeah,
• 7:40
  Speaker 5: you're right. And Todd Walsh on the other side. The
• 7:43
  Speaker 5: coaches on the position coaches, they're not like that. They
• 7:46
  Speaker 5: don't have to be like that.
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: 704-570-9610. I will say this, though. There were guys on offense, Bone,
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: that made plays and did well. The problem is, Bone,
• 7:58
  Speaker 1: it was all the second team offense. Kenny Pickett and
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: the second team offense was so much better than the
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: first team offense. Now they didn't go against the Neil
• 8:06
  Speaker 1: Hunter and Will Anderson. And if we can do a
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: second team league bone, Houston's very vulnerable on defense. If
• 8:12
  Speaker 1: we did a second team league NFL B, if we
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: did that, um, Kenny Pickett had a beautiful touchdown pass
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: to Metchie early, beautiful touchdown pass to horn where he
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: had to fight the fight for the ball away from
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: a DB, uh, and literally laid on the ground wrestling
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: for it so the DB couldn't take it from him
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: in the end zone bone for about 30 seconds until
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: Tommy Tremble came in and picked him up out of
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: the air and removed him away. Horn made multiple big plays.
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: Just seen Reed had a really nice catch. Running with
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: the ones at times. It's all second team. Reed, like... Yeah,
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: Reed was out there with the ones that didn't get
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: a pass because Bryce didn't. There weren't many passes completed yesterday.
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: I think somebody had an unofficial tally of like nine
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: of 17 or whatever. But those guys made plays, Tommy Tremble.
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: But when Tommy Tremble made the plays, I think it
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: was with the second unit. The first unit, again, I
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: can't sugarcoat it. It was horrible. I can't imagine Bone.
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: They didn't find the end zone one time. They didn't
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: find the end zone in red zone drills, including the
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: one where they spotted it at 10 and gave them
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: four plays. It's hard to imagine Bone. a battle in
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: a joint practice that could be more lopsided. I'm just
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: being honest with you. Now, I don't think we need
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: to send in texts that we're going to win three
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: games like some of y'all are doing. We got a one-game,
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: we got a two-game guy on there. But we got
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: a two-game guy now. Can I say something, Mac? But
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: it is concerning. Definitely.
• 9:39
  Speaker 5: Can I say something, Mac, though, that I'm going to
• 9:43
  Speaker 5: try to spin this in a direction momentarily where... It's
• 9:47
  Speaker 5: awful that the way they played yesterday, there's no direction
• 9:51
  Speaker 5: that could go that's positive. I will say this, though.
• 9:54
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of time between yesterday and the Bears game.
• 9:57
  Speaker 5: There's a long layoff here. So this is a situation
• 10:00
  Speaker 5: where they're not going to hear for the next couple
• 10:03
  Speaker 5: of weeks, Mac, how good they are and go in
• 10:05
  Speaker 5: with a, overstated confidence they're going to hear for two
• 10:09
  Speaker 5: weeks now how bad they are and maybe ultimately getting
• 10:12
  Speaker 5: their ass whooped in the timing of this thing because
• 10:15
  Speaker 5: now they're going to have to go fix things now
• 10:17
  Speaker 5: and for two weeks they're going to be told how
• 10:19
  Speaker 5: bad they are and not how good they are so
• 10:21
  Speaker 5: when they see the bears maybe they gain something off
• 10:23
  Speaker 5: of yesterday.
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: No doubt about it we do have to let let's
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: let bryce uh tell you what the heck happened on
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: one of his two interceptions he this is the one
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: where the clip was the clip on this one is
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: definitely out there a lot of y'all may have seen
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: it He's under pressure yet again. And I mean, I
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: think TMAC is covered by like three people, maybe four.
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: And he just literally, I mean, it's so un-Brice-like because
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: Bryce throws the ball away a lot. Bryce, you know,
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: Bryce will. I know they started rough with the turnovers
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: last year in the first two games, but for the
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: most part, Bryce tries to not really put the ball
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: into harm. And he totally forced this thing, just threw
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: a YOLO bomb up in the air and it was picked.
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: Listen to Bryce talk about it.
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: Bad decision. One of those that you want back, want
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: to force a play downfield when there's not one there.
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: And again, that's things that, you know, you've got to
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: watch going into the film, make sure that you have
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: that mindset of growth. And, you know, obviously that's not
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: a decision that, you know, I need to be making. So, again,
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: that's what these camps are for, to be able to grow.
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: So there you go. They're going to grow. Why did
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: Bryce say grow? Come on, Bryce.
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: Bryce, man.
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: Why do you do that? Bryce, the texters are going
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: to pick up on that one. I saw that quote.
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: I said, no, Bryce. I saw super excited yesterday, ability
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: to grow, and I knew we were in trouble. Oh,
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: my goodness. Darren says on the text line, why can't
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: we get Kenny Pickett in with the ones just to
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: see how it works? Come on, y'all. You think Kenny
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: Pickett would have been able to handle that pressure just
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: beautifully yesterday? Y'all not see. Y'all watch. Y'all YouTube some
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett lowlights, please. And just remind yourself of why
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: he's on his fifth team. I ain't trying to be
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: mean to the guy. He did some good stuff yesterday.
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: But come on, man. He was playing against slightly different competition.
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go ahead.
• 12:07
  Speaker 5: And guess that Bryce would have been similar if he
• 12:10
  Speaker 5: played against the other guys.
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Darren, we put Bryce on the twos. You don't
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: think he would play well? Just come on, man. Darren
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: probably complained about Pickett earlier in the offseason. I'm guessing.
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: We have a texter here that says, Austin from Charlotte
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: was feeling down after the joint practice, but the Blueprint
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: episode brought me back. We'll be fine. You know those
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: are hand-selected clips to make us feel good. Did you
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: watch the Blueprint episode, Boney?
• 12:39
  Speaker 5: I actually meant to watch it this morning, and I
• 12:42
  Speaker 5: completely forgot. I was so into the stuff from yesterday
• 12:46
  Speaker 5: of the camp stuff. I forgot to watch it. To
• 12:50
  Speaker 5: be honest, I forgot to watch it. So that's on me.
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: I'll watch it today. I forgot. I watched it. It
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: didn't do a whole lot for me. And maybe that's
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: just because, Bone, like you were saying, the only thing
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: in my mind has been what I saw yesterday at
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: that practice. I wasn't really upbeat yesterday. So all these
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: great clips, it's like, yeah. I was watching all these
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: great offensive clips, and I'm like, that's great. We couldn't
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: do any of that against the Texans once. We're doing
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: it against ourselves. So what does that mean? You know
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Should I be worried about the defense?
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: Should I be worried about Jalen Phillips' bone because Monroe
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: Freeling's holding his own against him? But literally, like, can't
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: do anything yesterday. Gave up four sacks. So, like, I
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: don't think it was good timing for that thing to
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: come out.
• 13:36
  Speaker 5: I wasn't in a, oh, let me get fired up mood.
• 13:38
  Speaker 5: I was more in the what the hell happened today
• 13:40
  Speaker 5: type mood. So that's kind of why I probably forgot
• 13:42
  Speaker 5: about it yesterday. Yeah, I don't think. I don't know
• 13:44
  Speaker 5: about anybody else. Clearly, Austin got him fired. It didn't
• 13:46
  Speaker 5: really get me fired up in light of what happened yesterday.
• 13:51
  Speaker 5: But anyway, I mean, there were some cool bullets in there.
• 13:53
  Speaker 5: You could see Jalen Phillips and his cats. You could
• 13:56
  Speaker 5: see Jalen Phillips at his house. I wish they do
• 13:58
  Speaker 5: more of that.
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: On there.
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: It was mostly just practice and press conferences and stuff
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 14:05
  Speaker 5: You want a little hard knocks where they give a
• 14:07
  Speaker 5: little insight on the background on the guys.
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: I kind of liked that. The, um, they did do,
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: they had guys mic'd up and it was funny. Um,
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: Bryce didn't tell TMAC that he was mic'd up, which
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: is like a cardinal sin, right?
• 14:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you have to. You tap your chest or you.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: Say mic'd up. That's the bro code, yeah, because you
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: can't let them. They come up to you and say something.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: They didn't know you're mic'd up. So there were some
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: fun mic'd up moments on there. I will say that.
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: We're going to do a thing called Mac'd Up where
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: we put a mic on you during the commercial breaks.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: Everyone can hear what you're saying.
• 14:41
  Speaker 5: Now, people can hear your noises that you make during
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: the commercial. Trust me, they have noises. I think they
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: need a break. I feel like they do. I know
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: y'all do. 704-570-9610. This texter says the worst thing about
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: it is if you read the Houston writers, the defense
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: got their butts kicked, too. Sounds like it was a
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: complete domination. See, that's where I go backbone to the
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: Rorschach test comment I made last week. The fact that
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: it feels like these joint practices are like a Rorschach
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: test where everybody sees different things.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: I read those accounts. You're talking about the one on Texans.com.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that guy was watching. They made
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: it seem like the Texans offense did damn near what
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: the Texans defense did. And I just didn't see it
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: that way. I didn't have as good of a view
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: on the defense. But I can tell you, Bone, I
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: think they only scored twice. in all, like, six, seven possessions.
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: It's been lost in the sauce that the defense didn't
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: have nearly as bad of a day as the offense, obviously.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think so at all. Like, I think the
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Houston stuff is exaggerating on that side. Like, if you
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: read Cassidy Hill's, Cassidy Hill, you know, she watched every play,
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: had a great point of view on it. It's a
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: much more positive review of the defense. I know this.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Derrick Brown was all over the place. all over the
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: place in the run game. Now their pass rush wasn't great,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: but it was short passes. Like it wasn't until the,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: until the two minute drill where they got their butt
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: kicked at the end, they weren't getting any big plays.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: There were a ton of balls broken up. I think
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: horn broke up three passes. Smith Wade broke up one, um, Mary, uh, no,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: it was Wheatley. Wheatley hit the bleep out of somebody. Um,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: I can't believe there weren't any fights. It almost disappointed me, Bone,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: there weren't any fights.
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: I thought there was one at the end, and you
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: mentioned it, where they were fighting for the ball on
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: the last play in the end zone. Mike Jack had
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: his helmet off and was sprinting to the end zone.
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: I thought something might happen. I couldn't tell if he was—
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: That looked close. That looked like it was headed. At first,
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: I thought he was celebrating. I couldn't figure out if
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: he was mad or something. Mike Jack always seems to
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: be in the mix of these things, though, right? Yeah,
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: and he had a good practice too, man. Did take
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: a shot into the nether region at one point, had
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: to come out. And by the way, the two-minute drill,
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: but he made plays. He had a pass breakup, had
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: a run stuff. The DBs were getting involved in the
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: run stuffing too. So, like, I was reading, I forget
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: which one of these Texan writers was trying to say
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: David Montgomery had some big runs.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: I didn't really see. There's one that a Texan's website
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: tweeted out, Bone. acting like it was some great run.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: And he was clearly tagged off by Derek Brown and
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: a DB. Like they didn't, they could have hit him
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: if they wanted to. They literally two hand touched him,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: but he kept running and the Texans website tried to
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: act like it was a big play or something. So,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: stuff like that's misleading. You can claim whatever you want, man.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Like last week, remember? The Jacksonville media was claiming, oh,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: that Bryce Young would have been sacked on all those
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: big plays. And the Carolina media is saying, oh no,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: come on. That's not the case.
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: We have a first on the text line, Mac, from
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: Paul Metallica. He used a word. Paul Metallica. I don't
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: think a Texter Mac has ever used this word before.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: I don't think Willie P has ever used this word.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: And talking about Bryce Young's coach speaking type stuff from
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: the quarterback spot, it's a melange of what he has
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: been coached to say and how to say it.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: A what?
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Melange. M-E-L-A-N-G-E. Is that a real word? If so, that's
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: over my head.
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: I looked it up and apparently Melange, if that's how
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: I'm saying it right, a mixture, a blend of medley
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: of different things or people.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: There you go, baby. No texters ever use the word.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: You should be Paul Melange now. Paul Metallica. Who would
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: have thought a guy named after a heavy metal band
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: would be that cerebral? Man, what a big word for
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: the show. That's impressive, baby. That is impressive.
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: When we come back, a guy who probably has a
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: melange of big words, Wes Durham of the ACC Network.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: He'll call State Virginia on Saturday with Max Brown. He'll
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: preview that. He'll talk about the Heels game. All things
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: ACC with the great Wes Durham next on Sports Radio
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: 92.7 WFNZ.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: This goes out to Texter Paul Metallica, baby. This goes
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: out to you, Paul. We don't know if that's your
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: real last name or are you named after the greatest
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: metal band ever, but we like it. And it gave
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Finney an excuse to play a little Metallica, so we'll
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: take it, baby. We are rocking and rolling, trying to
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: deal with a rough joint practice for the Panthers offense.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: We will circle back to that, I'm sure. But we
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: got to talk about the fact that we got real
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: football games coming up on Saturday. We're just two days
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: away from this week zero where there's four different games
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: involving ACC teams, including Carolina and TCU on Saturday. including
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: NC State and Virginia on Wednesday. We got to talk
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: through these games, maybe even some of the week one games, Bone,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: like Clemson LSU involving ACC teams as well. That Louisville
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Ole Miss one is enticing. Very much so. Let's talk
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: about the early season for the ACC with Wes Durham,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: ACC Network, ESPN, joining us on the Mac and Bone Show. Wes,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: what's going on, man? How you doing?
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Can't get worried about those joint practices, fellas.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: We're not worried at all, Wes.
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: Wes, we're keeping it measured now because if they played well,
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: we wouldn't be too excited.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It's just a joint session.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: I just heard him say the Panthers got banged around
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: in a joint practice.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Joint practice? Did they have pads on? Did we double-check that?
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: They did. They didn't use them. Our offensive tackles did
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: not use them.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: Oh, Wes.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Hey, let's do this, though. To your point, Wes, let's
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: talk about Real Ball, baby, because it starts this week
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: in Week 0. We were talking about this earlier with Carolina.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: They still feel like a team where it's so hard
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: to know what to expect. I mean, 40-plus new freshmen,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: tons of new transfers, too. What are you expecting? Is
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: there anything we can say we know what to expect
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: from Carolina on Saturday against TCU?
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Um, that's a really good question. And it's well, because
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: you say, well, they got 40 odd new players. And
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: if you had the 70 some from a year ago,
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: it's basically, it's almost 120,000, two years. Okay. So look
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: at it broad scope wise, you've got a little boy
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: or man, should I be really concerned that, you know,
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: that's going to be another four and eight. I know
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: one thing, Bobby Petrino has been a lot of things
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: to a lot of people in his career, but The
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: one thing Bobby Petrino can do is scheme offensive plays.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: And Bobby Petrino knows how to run the football in
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: a variety of ways. And I think with Ben Hall
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: and Demond June and an offensive line, Christo Kelly, obviously
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: the anchor at center, Billy Edwards has got some experience
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: behind him. I mean, legitimate experience behind him. Um, I
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: think that Carolina is going to try and run the ball.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: I think that'll be job one for them in Ireland
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: against TCU. And it should be because quite frankly, what
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: you want to do against somebody like Sonny Dykes, who
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: wants to sling it like he did last year in
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Chapel Hill, when he get, when he got the window
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: is you want to keep the ball away from them.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: So in essence, I think Carolina is going to be a,
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: I don't want to say a dominant run team, but
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: in terms of percentage of usage, I would say you're
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: probably looking at a very dominant run team. Um, I
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: think defensively, Elkhart, Abjadeh, the defensive end, Elkhart, is terrific.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: I think they've got a couple pieces elsewise on the defense.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: In some respect, I'm kind of more concerned about what
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: they might be defensively just based on their growth a
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: year ago and now some of the guys that are gone.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: That weather out there also is supposed to be open championship. Like,
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: I know you're a golf guy, Wes, and it's, Mag,
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: it's supposed to be like, what's the, I'm going to
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: try to name a court, Royal, Royal Julie Andrews, Mag,
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: what's the case out there?
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: Royal County Down is the court in Northern Ireland.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Listen to, listen to T-Bone get after the golf here.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Let me, okay, first of all, Port Monic, the Island Club,
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: and some of those courses are a little bit closer
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: to Dublin than Royal County Down. And, in that area
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: but boy am i impressed with you going with the
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: sky sports report there.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: Of the well i did call it royal julie andrews
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: and that's obviously not the name of the.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Course julie andrews that is lovely there.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Might be a course out there named after her west.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Trip to scotland where st andrews is not ireland where
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: carolina's playing they will welcome you with open arms I
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: get you somewhere near the course, not fully there to
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: the front door. For UNC, before we get to your game,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: the pack in Virginia, last year, obviously, an embarrassment. Then
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: they have the drama, and they have more drama this offseason.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: But what do you think would be deemed a successful
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: year this year for the Heels based off expectations? Oh, look, guys,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: I think they can be a better football team. I
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: don't know that the record will be better because the
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: schedule's harder. Yeah. I mean, I do. I think the
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: schedule is marginally harder. But I think they could win.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, you could always have the Kurt Cignetti
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: lightning strike, okay? The idea of them going to a
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: bowl game would be a terrific season, in my opinion,
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: for Carolina. If they go 6-6 or 7-5. That would be, yeah,
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: I think that would be incredible. I just don't know
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: that all of this can happen that quickly. Maybe it can. Remember,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: you just said to yourselves, 40-some-odd new players, 120 over
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: two years, coaching changes, all those things. But kids are kids,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: and Carolina has compensated some kids, and they've brought some
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: to guys they think can play football in, and it'll
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: be interesting to see what happens nonetheless.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: It's going to be fascinating to see what happens Saturday. Now,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: after that one, you've got NC State, Virginia. I mean,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: what a way to start things off. I mean, it's
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: a big one for both these teams. And I don't
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: know what to think. I love C.J.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: Bailey.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I really like this state team. I like their schedule.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: But Virginia's got experience. I know the quarterback changes, and
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering about that. But they got a lot of
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: experience back. What do you make of this matchup?
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: I think it's a terrific game. We're fortunate to be here,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: excited to be here. It's going to be a headline
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: game in Week 0 nationally. If you go big picture,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: you can argue this game could be really important to
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: who ends up playing in Charlotte in December. That's a
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: long way away, but you can make that argument. Because
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: I think these are two of the teams that can
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: challenge the top three with Miami, obviously, Louisville, SMU. And
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: then I think NC State, Virginia, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Pitt.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: I'm only somebody out here and it's going to kill me.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, you've got all these other teams that can
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: clearly contend just based on what they've done recently. If
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: things go their way, I'm excited to see what Dave's
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: team is about. I think Bailey is terrific. I think
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: he's done a terrific job bringing some of his buddies
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: with him. Davion Goss is unbelievable. JoJo Trader's had a
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: terrific training camp for them at wide receiver. Defensively, I
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: think Harvey Dyson III, the defensive entry transfer from Tulane,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: is a prospect that can help them. They've just got
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: the right– it feels like they've got the right culture,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: the right mix, the right blend in today's college football
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: to be successful. Your point about Bo Pribula– The two
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: years ago at Penn State, last year at Missouri, this
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: is more of a runner than a thrower historically. But
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: I also think Des Kitchens, who used to work for
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: David NC State and now has been with Tony Elliott
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: the full way here, is probably going to scheme up
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: some stuff for Pribula to throw the football because everybody
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: knows what Pribula can do. I think defensively is the
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: question I have about Virginia. Where are they? Last year
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: they got high production from the front seven. They were
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: efficient in the back. I think that's why the game
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: is the game tomorrow. It's Saturday at 3.30.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: Wes, is Virginia's offensive line an indictment of college athletics
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: right now? I think some of these guys went to
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: school with Dan Bonner. They have two six-year guys, two
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: seven-year guys, a fifth-year guy, and a fifth-year tight end.
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: Has Virginia kind of flown under the radar a little
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: bit for a team that had one of their best
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: years ever last year?
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: All right, first of all, let me tell you this.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: The fact that you said you think some of those
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: kids went to school with Dan Bonner. All right, the
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: left tackle is Mikael Boley, okay? His dad is Michael Boley,
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: who played in the NFL. He was a draft pick
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: of the Atlanta Falcons. Oh, yeah. Wait a second. The
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: left guard is Noah Josie, whose dad was Brian Josie,
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: who played guard at Vanderbilt in the early 90s. Do
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: you know who did both of their dads' games on radio?
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, that would be you, Wes.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: So if they went to school with Dan Bonner, what
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: the hell does that make me?
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I know, man.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: I had a choice to make, Wes. I could have
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: went you or Dan, and I went Dan. But it
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: still stings, Wes.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: All right, so here's the reality of this. That is
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: the secret sauce. They found a couple of guys who
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: were committed to the program. Metcalf, the kid at center,
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: is very good. Monroe Mills is back healthy. They were
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: excited about him a year ago. He never got on
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: the field. He's going to play right tackle. It comes
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: back to they lost a lot at running back, but
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: they did get Peyton Lewis, who's a Southwest Virginia kid
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: who started his career at Tennessee. Middlebrook is the kid
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: from Middle Tennessee who's going to start at running back.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: I think Tony Elliott and Virginia are seeing the the
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: success of having some patience, guys. I really do. And
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: I think Virginia and NC State, that's why I think
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: it's a heck of a game. I think they both
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: can really do some things, to be honest with you.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: All right, Wes, I mentioned we got a big one
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: in week one next weekend between LSU and Clemson, and
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: there was an interesting story out of Clemson this week
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: written by Larry Williams, who's covered the Tigers for a while,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: saying that we all felt by now Christian Vizina, the veteran,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: would be the starter, but that the last week or so,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Tate Reynolds is surging and Vizina, has not been great.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Have you heard any of that talk? I just find
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: it so hard to believe Dabo would send the freshman
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: out there to Death Valley to start on the road.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: There's been a lot about Clemson's preseason that's been interesting
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: to me. Dabo's saying a bunch of nobodies, one of
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: our worst practices, things of that nature. I find it all–
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying Dabo is poor-mouthing, okay, because he doesn't
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: do that. But I do think it's interesting that Clemson
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: is coming away on a year where a lot of
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: people aren't real sure what Clemson's going to be, especially
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: as you guys know the quarterbacks. that they were having
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: these kind of commentaries. I'm not going to be terribly surprised, A,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: if they play really, really well next Saturday night. But, B,
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: the other part, I'm not going to be also surprised
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: if Tate Reynolds runs out there, guys. I'm just not.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, Dabo and the way Chad Morris wants to
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: run the offense, they need somebody who can go who's
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: got legs at quarterback. Tate Reynolds is a much better
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: prospect at quarterback in that discipline than Chris Fazzina is.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: So we'll see. I do know this. They've got a
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: terrific talent at wide receiver in Wesco. They've got some
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: really good players on defense, including Will Health at defensive
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: end and Sammy Brown at linebacker. that's going to have
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: to carry them a little bit for sure next Saturday
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: night in that environment. Now, here's the other thing, too.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: We really don't know what Lane's got. Lane's got a
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: lot of guys they paid money to who come with
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: good reputations whose coach has consistently been in the news. So,
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, how's LSU coming together? Are they just coming
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: together because it's Lane and LSU and a lot of money?
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Because as we've seen, fellas, from time to time, that
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily work in today's college football.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Lane might have half the Cleveland Browns camp, you know?
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Which might not be a good thing.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's just– okay. That's another visit for another show.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Can we just say this? Aren't we glad we have
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: avoided that crossing of the Rubicon right now? I mean,
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: do we really need guys getting cut by Dave Canales
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: and Dan Morgan on Sunday– showing up on a college
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: campus on Wednesday because, hey, I want my year back.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Heck no, we don't. Heck no, we don't.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just something we don't want. And Ghostbusters,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: we don't want to cross those wires.
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: Wes, cool announcement yesterday. The ACC Today, your SiriusXM show
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: on the ACC radio channel, will now be on TV
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: starting today, right? So Mondays and Thursdays, 10 a.m. to noon,
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: ACC Network. We can now watch you guys. I know
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: we will hear. That is awesome stuff, man.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Well, thanks. We're excited. Now, we're getting ready to start
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: the show here in about 20 minutes, and I'm in
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: a hotel room in Charlottesville, and Roddy is in the
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: comforts of his own home, so it'll be an enlightening
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: two hours at 10 o'clock on ACC Network this morning.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: But that's kind of the way the show has worked
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: with the folks at SiriusXM. No, we're grateful for the
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: partnership of both ACC Network and and Sirius XM. And
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: we're excited to talk football. We'll have a couple of
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: folks on today, uh, including, uh, Kevin Richardson, the new
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: voice of the Stanford. Remember Stanford plays Hawaii. Yeah, that
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: is Hawaii, uh, this weekend. So, uh, we're looking forward
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: to talking to Kevin, finding out what to do to
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: Pritchard's first teams like, and, uh, And we're going to
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: talk to Mike Barber about the state of Virginia football. So, yeah,
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: we're excited. And I appreciate the plug on that and
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: hope folks enjoy it twice a week on TV on
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: ACC Network.
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: Stanford, Hawaii played a heck of a game last year.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I remember I lost money on that game. You lost
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: money on it? I bet on that game, yeah. I'm
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: not proud of myself. All right, Wes, be good, man.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Enjoy the start of the season. Thanks for coming on,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: as always.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: I'm going to hop on the internet here real quick
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: and see if I can get me a Royal Julie
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Andrews t-shirt.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Big course designer she was.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: Take care, boys.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Be well.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: All right, Wes.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: There you go. I knew it didn't sound right. Wes
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: liked your attempts at Scottish golf courses.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: I knew it didn't sound right. By the way, Scotland, Ireland,
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: not really. They're 10 hours apart. Yeah, you did kind
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: of mess that up. Close enough, Bone. Close enough. That
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: Tate Reynolds thing is interesting, though. And he said, like,
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: Larry Williams is reporting that it feels close. You just
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: heard Wes say he wouldn't be shocked.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: I like, I wouldn't be shocked if Tate Reynolds got
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: that job eventually, you know, kind of like the way
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Lawrence and Watson, like eventually into their freshman year, didn't
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: take long. They got the starting job.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: Don't you throw into the fire, see how he does.
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: And then go freshman.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: In Baton Rouge. Against half the Cleveland Browns? I don't know, man,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: but we'll see. I'll do just a package for Tate Reynolds,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: what I would do.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: Fitty, a texter wants to know, we don't have time
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: for an update, but a texter wants to know, will you,
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: in honor of the heels in Ireland, do an update
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: at some point this week in an Irish accent?
• 34:35
  Speaker 8: I can try.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 34:37
  Speaker 8: I'm part Irish.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: That ought to go well.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: You're Irish.
• 34:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I got some Irish in me.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: There you go, Fit. There's only one Irishman on this show, man.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: There you go, baby. Although I'm Scots-Irish. I'm not even
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: real full Irish. You know what I mean?
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Scots-Irish. Oh, I never knew this. I'm also Scottish,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: by the way. Okay.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: But you still didn't know the difference between the golf
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: courses in Ireland and Scotland, though. I didn't help you.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know the golf courses in Charlotte.
• 34:58
  Speaker 8: Leave Bone alone, Mac. He got lost over in the
• 35:02
  Speaker 8: garage yesterday.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: We're not going there. Can you come in here in
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: honor of your Scottish heritage? Can you come in tomorrow
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: in a Braveheart kilt?
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: Oh, I absolutely will. First victory dance of the year
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: for the Panthers, I'm wearing a kilt. When we come back,
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: there was Wes Durham, thanks to him. We had a
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: great talk yesterday with three Panther players that you don't
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: want to miss.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: First up, new.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: Tight end Darren Waller about what he could add to
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: the offense, his journey to this point, the team itself.
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: Do not miss Darren Waller next on Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody. It is the Mac and Bone Show,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio 92.7. Panthers camp wrapping up, but we've got
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: one of the newest additions, if not the newest addition,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: to the Carolina Panthers. Tight end Darren Waller joining us
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: on the show. Darren, how you doing, man?
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: What's going on? I'm great, man. Blessed to be here.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: So what's it like to get here kind of in
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: the middle of camp? I mean, you're a savvy vet,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: so I feel like you can probably pick up things
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: at this point in your career quicker than when you
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: were younger.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: But what is it like kind of joining in progress
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: on the fly like this?
• 36:23
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, there's naturally some catching up to do.
• 36:26
  Speaker 9: The train's already been rolling since, you know, mid-April to
• 36:30
  Speaker 9: mid-June is a foundation-laying process in the spring, which is
• 36:33
  Speaker 9: very important for a team to have success in the
• 36:36
  Speaker 9: long run. And then, you know, those first few weeks
• 36:39
  Speaker 9: of training camp into already having a first preseason game,
• 36:42
  Speaker 9: I come in the mix with a second preseason game.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: So it's like, yeah, you feel that.
• 36:45
  Speaker 9: All right, I got some catching up to do to
• 36:47
  Speaker 9: get back in the mix, to get into the flow,
• 36:49
  Speaker 9: to learn. But also at the same time, just knowing like,
• 36:52
  Speaker 9: as long as I can do the most that I
• 36:54
  Speaker 9: can do what I can every single day, that's enough.
• 36:56
  Speaker 9: I don't have to put too much stress on myself
• 36:58
  Speaker 9: to know everything in one day. It's just like, let
• 37:02
  Speaker 9: me get an extra hour with my coach. Let me
• 37:04
  Speaker 9: ask questions and, and not be afraid to ask questions
• 37:07
  Speaker 9: just because, you know, I'm a guy who usually knows
• 37:09
  Speaker 9: what's going on in different places. Like, you know, humble yourself, learn, um,
• 37:14
  Speaker 9: get to know guys, um, and do everything you can
• 37:17
  Speaker 9: to catch up, and then eventually you'll find your way,
• 37:20
  Speaker 9: and it'll be a lot smoother.
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: We've been able to follow your journey from afar for
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: a while, whether it's your football journey, your life journey,
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: all you've been through. You're still 33, a lot of
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: football left, but you joined a young offense. So what's
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: it mean for you to still be that productive Darren Waller,
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: but now there's that experience and there's that leadership aspect
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: that you can pass down to all these guys?
• 37:39
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I think that's something that I'm definitely taking
• 37:42
  Speaker 9: into account as I'm exploring what, this stage of my
• 37:46
  Speaker 9: career is like going into year 10 you know it's
• 37:49
  Speaker 9: like there's definitely still things I can do that I
• 37:52
  Speaker 9: was able to do earlier in my career but at
• 37:54
  Speaker 9: the same time it's like there's more I can give
• 37:56
  Speaker 9: to the team than just statistical output and catches and
• 38:00
  Speaker 9: route running ability there's things that I've been through seen
• 38:05
  Speaker 9: reactions how how defenses react how how things move and
• 38:09
  Speaker 9: just how to navigate because we've got some young studs
• 38:11
  Speaker 9: on this team that can really play and they're navigating
• 38:14
  Speaker 9: their own journey through being the guy and, um, the
• 38:18
  Speaker 9: focal point of offenses and the focal point of what
• 38:20
  Speaker 9: defenses are preparing for. So it's, uh, just to be
• 38:23
  Speaker 9: able to be in the room with those guys, if
• 38:24
  Speaker 9: they ever have questions, uh, offer what I can, uh,
• 38:27
  Speaker 9: but also learn from them too. I always feel like
• 38:28
  Speaker 9: you can be the student one day and the teacher
• 38:30
  Speaker 9: the next. So it's, uh, It's an interesting journey.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: How are the conversations with XL and Jimmy Horn going?
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: There's some southern accents there. Are you picking up on that?
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: It's a gym. Just listen to them, man. Once you
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: slow down and listen to them, you definitely understand. You
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: got to sneak up on it.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: Horns are a little underrated because we've talked a lot
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: about the stuff that, I mean, there's a whole video
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: of XL riding horses standing up in his hometown.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Speeding.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: He showed me some sliding on horses.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: But Jimmy Horns are a little underrated at the southern
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: stuff too.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: Isn't he? Oh, yeah, yeah. He floored it. I love Jimmy, though, man.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: He's incredible.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: We're talking with Darren Waller, new tight end for the
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. All right, so we're watching the joint practice,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: and one of the guys, the guy that does our
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: afternoon show, Kyle Bailey, comes over to me and says, man,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: you see Waller lining up in the slot? You see
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: him get off that line? Like, he still gets off
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: that line. Like, last year, you got downfield. I mean,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: I think it was 12 catches of balls that were
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: 10 yards or more in the air, 5 20 yards
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: you know in nine games six touchdowns in nine games
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: you feel like people might look at that age and
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: say hey he still doesn't get downfield like that is
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: that still something you're confident that you can bring to
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: this offense.
• 39:42
  Speaker 9: Uh yeah absolutely especially with the um the groundwork being
• 39:45
  Speaker 9: laid this offseason with the training like The speed is
• 39:48
  Speaker 9: back to where it was a few years ago. Being
• 39:51
  Speaker 9: in the 20s and stuff like that is something I
• 39:54
  Speaker 9: work hard to get back to, which I don't feel
• 39:56
  Speaker 9: like I was.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: There last year.
• 39:58
  Speaker 9: So I'm grateful that I'm able to get back there
• 40:01
  Speaker 9: and still have that in my toolbox to make explosive
• 40:04
  Speaker 9: plays for an offense because those things give your offense
• 40:07
  Speaker 9: a lot of momentum, give your team momentum. So I
• 40:08
  Speaker 9: feel like I can still bring that to this team.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: Darryl Bevel comes over as well, a guy that you
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: know from Miami. How big do you think he's going
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: to be for this.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: Offense, too?
• 40:17
  Speaker 9: Uh, Bev, I think is good is super helpful just
• 40:19
  Speaker 9: in terms of like understanding, like from what I've seen
• 40:22
  Speaker 9: him do in his role so far as like giving
• 40:24
  Speaker 9: a picture of like, okay, what is this defense's philosophy?
• 40:28
  Speaker 9: How are we trying to attack them? What did they do?
• 40:30
  Speaker 9: What are they trying to do against us? What are
• 40:32
  Speaker 9: they trying to take away from us and bringing that
• 40:34
  Speaker 9: element to football? Cause that's where I feel like my
• 40:36
  Speaker 9: game has elevated is trying to get that wisdom of like, okay,
• 40:39
  Speaker 9: this is everything the defense is trying to do. The,
• 40:41
  Speaker 9: here are their rules. This is what, how we're going
• 40:44
  Speaker 9: to attack them, this is why we're going to attack them.
• 40:46
  Speaker 9: I think he brings so much expertise from his time
• 40:48
  Speaker 9: in the league. He did that last year. We got
• 40:50
  Speaker 9: a lot out of his additions to third down, breaking
• 40:53
  Speaker 9: down their coverages and tendencies in different situations. I think
• 40:56
  Speaker 9: he does that for our guys. Like you said, a
• 40:58
  Speaker 9: young offense, it's important to learn those little things that
• 41:00
  Speaker 9: help separate guys.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Do you worry that because, I guess Canales said the
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: other day, he's got to rely on your tape from
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: last year. He only has so much to watch of
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: you here in practice. Do you feel like Because of that,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: I think your tape looked pretty good when you played
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: last year. Do you feel like, hey, I can definitely
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: be on this 53? Do you wonder if they would
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: try to practice? Squads, have there been conversations about that?
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: No.
• 41:27
  Speaker 9: I understand at this point in my career that that's
• 41:30
  Speaker 9: part of the business of the league. That's something that
• 41:33
  Speaker 9: could happen. I kind of leave that up and just
• 41:36
  Speaker 9: control what I can control. I feel like that's gotten
• 41:38
  Speaker 9: me to where I've been able to get in my
• 41:40
  Speaker 9: career and to do the things I've been able to do.
• 41:41
  Speaker 9: At this stage, if there's different turns for me at
• 41:45
  Speaker 9: this point. You know, I'm here to play ball and
• 41:47
  Speaker 9: help this team as best as I can. If it's
• 41:49
  Speaker 9: in a different role at different times, then so be it.
• 41:53
  Speaker 9: But whatever that role is, I'm going to try to
• 41:55
  Speaker 9: do my best at it.
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: Did you ever think that John Gruden, the guy you
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: know well from the Vegas Raiders, would be now in
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: a Barstool content role?
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: In his career.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: I did not, but now that he is, it's like, oh,
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: it makes so much sense.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: He fits.
• 42:08
  Speaker 9: He fits.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: It's like a perfect fit. Perfect fit.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: That video, I'm sure you saw that video with Rich
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: Gannon that went viral. Did you see that during the
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl times? on the street when he buddied up
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: with Rich Gant. And all they did was beat each
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: other up for like a minute and a half. Is
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: that kind of who Gruden is as a football guy?
• 42:25
  Speaker 9: Anything you see from him in the booth and on Barstool,
• 42:27
  Speaker 9: that's literally how he is every day. People are like,
• 42:30
  Speaker 9: he's so funny. It's like every offensive install every single
• 42:33
  Speaker 9: day was like that. It's like a Netflix special every day.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Did guys do Gruden impressions in the locker room?
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Because that's a good voice to do. I figured that
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: would happen. What do you think about Bryce? I mean,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: we were out there today. I know that it was
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: a tough day against that Houston defense today, but I
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: know that Bryce has been doing a lot of good
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: things in camp. What do you think of him? Because
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you hear things about him. What do you
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: think of him as a quarterback?
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: What sticks out?
• 43:02
  Speaker 9: I just think the poise and just the equilibrium emotionally
• 43:07
  Speaker 9: for him, because I feel like he's done some pretty
• 43:10
  Speaker 9: amazing things in his career and also like there's times
• 43:12
  Speaker 9: where he's had to take a step back um like
• 43:15
  Speaker 9: be on the sidelines be in a backup role for
• 43:17
  Speaker 9: like minimum time like so you can see that he's
• 43:19
  Speaker 9: been through things that have helped him like mature just
• 43:22
  Speaker 9: his perspective on things like he's saying things to the
• 43:25
  Speaker 9: offense and he's not only like he's not calling guys
• 43:27
  Speaker 9: out he's like trying to raise everybody up to a
• 43:29
  Speaker 9: different level yeah like even like today he's like there
• 43:31
  Speaker 9: are certain things guys today everybody's be honest when we
• 43:33
  Speaker 9: watch the film including me and it's like that's the
• 43:35
  Speaker 9: what you want to see from your quarterback but also
• 43:37
  Speaker 9: so much thing like his His pocket mobility, the way
• 43:39
  Speaker 9: he kind.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: Of like weaves through like rush lanes and able to
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: get the ball out. People are like, oh, he's shorter.
• 43:44
  Speaker 9: But it's like, man, he's finding those windows and putting
• 43:46
  Speaker 9: the ball where it needs to be.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: So it's like he's done a lot of things.
• 43:49
  Speaker 9: Just me being here a few practices, I'm like, oh, man,
• 43:52
  Speaker 9: like this dude is legit.
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: We're all excited for Mitchell Evans upside as a tight end.
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: What have you seen so far? And what is his
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: ceiling ultimately here.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: Do you think?
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: What is he doing well?
• 44:01
  Speaker 9: Super versatile, man. I'm really impressed with the whole room,
• 44:03
  Speaker 9: to be honest. But, yeah, Mitchell is a big guy,
• 44:05
  Speaker 9: physical in the run game, can pass protect. He's got
• 44:08
  Speaker 9: sure hands, asking him to run whether it's over routes, anything.
• 44:12
  Speaker 9: He's pretty agile for his size, man. I think he's
• 44:15
  Speaker 9: got the tools to have a good, long career as
• 44:17
  Speaker 9: long as he wants to play.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Last thing I want to ask, we're not ending really
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: on a great note here, but I do want to
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: make sure I ask you. You were asked when you
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: signed here and you did the first presser, were you
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: surprised that it took until now for you to get
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: that call from a team? And you said you brought
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: up kind of my availability as part of the reason why. No,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: I'm not really– You had three different injuries last year.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: How are you feeling?
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Are you concerned that you could deal with that again
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: just as you progress in age in your career? Or
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: do you feel like, oh, my body's different right now?
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: I do feel different right now.
• 44:53
  Speaker 9: I feel like last year was a product of– like
• 44:56
  Speaker 9: not training football in retirement and then like coming back
• 44:59
  Speaker 9: and being like, let's see if we can play ball
• 45:01
  Speaker 9: like an old dude going to play pickup basketball.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: He's looking at you when he said that. Oh, I'm
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: so old I don't even try anymore, man. Screw that.
• 45:08
  Speaker 9: But it's really like the foundation laid this offseason was
• 45:11
  Speaker 9: like probably one of the best if not the best
• 45:13
  Speaker 9: that I feel like I've had. And so it's like
• 45:15
  Speaker 9: coming into camp, coming into this like so much more calloused,
• 45:19
  Speaker 9: I feel like. The frequency, like all those injuries, I
• 45:23
  Speaker 9: feel like is definitely not something that's going to happen
• 45:24
  Speaker 9: this year. I mean, not to say like it's a
• 45:26
  Speaker 9: violent game, things can happen out there, but as far
• 45:29
  Speaker 9: as injuries like I had last year, I feel like
• 45:32
  Speaker 9: the foundation that's been laid is night and day. So
• 45:34
  Speaker 9: I feel like it's not going to be like that.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought you may say that because listening to you,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: it feels like you are way more ready to start
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: camp this year. All right, man. Well, hey, we're pulling
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: for you. Best of luck here in Carolina, and thanks
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: for coming on, Darren.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: Appreciate you, man.
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: All right, there he is, first-class guy, Darren Waller, easy
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: guy to root for. All the guys we talked to yesterday,
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: whether it's Darren Waller, Nick Scott, that you'll hear at 825, A.J. Dillon,
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: 9 o'clock, all high-quality individuals, no doubt about it.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: We come back.
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: How worried are Panther fans about the offense after yesterday's
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: very ugly practice?
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.