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The Next Round: Texas-Tennessee, Ole Miss-Florida & Oregon-USC Headline a Massive College Football Weekend | Hour 1 · The Next Round

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Speaker 1: We got games tonight. NFL game in Green Bay and
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Speaker 1: Liberty and Coastal in college football. We'll talk about those
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Speaker 1: games coming up. This is the next round presented by
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Speaker 1: Hard Rock Bet here on Sporting State. Jim Dunaway, Lance Taylor,
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Speaker 1: Ryan Brown, Clay Travis with us at 1020 Central, 1120 Eastern,
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Speaker 1: Joel Klatt later in the show. Lane Kiffin in segment two,
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Speaker 1: crying towel out for Lane Kiffin on a couple of subjects.
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Speaker 1: We'll get into that coming up. But, man, we've got
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Speaker 1: a best weekend so far of college football. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you may not live up to that, but schedule-wise, in
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Speaker 1: your opinion. Yeah, on paper, because we're finally getting the
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Speaker 1: Big Ten in conference.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Which helps overall. The SEC, we'll talk about this later.
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Speaker 1: This is as good a day as you're going to
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Speaker 1: find in the SEC. Great game in the Big Ten,
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Speaker 1: not Pac-12. Oregon and USC, that adds to it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think there's like six to eight
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Speaker 3: games you'd be like, if this was a standalone Thursday
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Speaker 3: or Monday night game, I'd.
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Speaker 2: Be all in.
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Speaker 1: That's right.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Four ranked games between the SEC, and that's the first
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Speaker 1: time in AP poll history, though in the ranked game
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Speaker 1: between Iowa and Michigan and the ranked game between Oregon
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Speaker 1: and USC. And you've got a pretty good schedule. So
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Speaker 1: that's the first time any conference, not just the SEC, right?
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Speaker 1: Any conference has ever had four in-conference games, all in-conference.
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Speaker 1: Top 25. Matched up in the top 25 in AP
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Speaker 1: poll history. I mean, that's believable when you stop and
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Speaker 1: think about it for a second because this is really
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Speaker 1: hard to do, but it's exciting to me. First, you've
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Speaker 1: got to have eight conference teams in your conference. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and you've got to have at least eight ranked. For
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Speaker 1: a lot of the history of college football, conferences were
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Speaker 1: only eight, ten teams in a conference, so that was
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Speaker 1: hard to do. So it's a pretty historic weekend and
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Speaker 1: a good time. A couple of good Big Ten games,
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Speaker 1: so that's what makes it so good. Don't you think the.
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Speaker 2: Big Ten game is the best game of the weekend?
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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I know we're an SEC country. No, no, no, no,
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Speaker 2: but I mean— I'm just talking about the implications and everything.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Oregon-USC, yes. I mean, the debate for me,
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Speaker 1: entertainment value becomes— Oregon-USC at the Coliseum or Ole Miss-Florida
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Speaker 1: in the Swamp. You said best. Biggest, I think, is
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Speaker 1: what you really meant, is the most meaningful or whatever.
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Speaker 1: It may not be the best game. Yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 1: I would go both, though.
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Speaker 3: I think it's just an even matchup that went from
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Speaker 3: USC-1 to Oregon's now a three-point favorite.
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Speaker 1: I've got a feeling Ole Miss-Florida is going to be
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Speaker 1: a very entertaining football game. Well, it feels like both
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Speaker 1: of those will be high scoring. Am I wrong about that?
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Speaker 3: I mean, both totals are in the 60s.
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Speaker 2: So, yeah, I mean, I think it's going to play–
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Speaker 2: In the 30s, both teams.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the way Gary Patterson's defense has been playing
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Speaker 1: and the way Dan Lane, I can't believe I'm saying
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Speaker 1: this about these two coaches, but the way those two
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Speaker 1: defenses have been playing, there should be points in that game, yes.
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Speaker 1: But to, I mean, to y'all's points, I mean, if
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Speaker 1: you get a couple of 35-31 games there, that's very entertaining.
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Speaker 1: But we do have the number one team in the
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Speaker 1: country on the road in one of the toughest places
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Speaker 1: in America to play at Neyland Stadium. We get word yesterday,
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Speaker 1: I think Clay may have been the first to report it,
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Speaker 1: that Donald Trump, President Trump, will be at this game.
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Speaker 1: We know how crazy it is. We've all been to
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Speaker 1: Neyland Stadium for big games. We know how crazy it
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Speaker 1: is for a big game. Now you throw in the
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Speaker 1: extra security barrier and all that when the president shows up.
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Speaker 1: It's not even an easy stadium to park at and
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Speaker 1: get to. You walk a long ways. Now you've got construction.
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Speaker 2: On that one. It's hill each way. I get Can
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Speaker 2: never figure it out, but there's hills everywhere in New England.
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Speaker 1: You're going uphill both ways? It's like you walk uphill
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Speaker 1: to get to the stadium, you walk uphill to get
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Speaker 1: back to your car.
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Speaker 2: I think there was a point in life where it
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Speaker 2: might have been cool that you're in the same vicinity
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Speaker 2: as the president, but I would think that most college
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Speaker 2: football fans are like, please sit this game out.
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Speaker 1: I've done it twice, both Alabama games, Alabama-Georgia and the
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Speaker 1: 2017 National Championship game, Mercedes-Benz.
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Speaker 2: The reason I skipped that game.
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Speaker 5: That is right.
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Speaker 2: Stayed at the hotel.
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Speaker 1: And a lot of people... said you might have made
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Speaker 1: the right call there because it was pouring down rain
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Speaker 1: and you're stuck outside.
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Speaker 2: It was icy too.
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Speaker 1: It was like 35 degrees. It was just cold enough.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't snow, but it's rain or just warm enough.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't snow. And then the 2019 Bama LSU game
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Speaker 1: in Tuscaloosa, he was there as well. And, I mean,
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Speaker 1: it creates issues. There's zero doubt. Anytime the president of
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Speaker 1: the United States goes somewhere, it's going to create issues. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think I was at both of those games. I
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Speaker 1: think those are the only two I've ever been at
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Speaker 1: that the president's been at. I think I am with
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Speaker 1: you on that.
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Speaker 2: I mean, if he can pardon hardened criminals, couldn't he
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Speaker 2: get this game moved off 11 o'clock?
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Speaker 1: To move it back into prime time. It's a surprising
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Speaker 1: number one versus ranked matchup, I guess, when they were
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Speaker 1: making this decision because Texas and LSU is– is in
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Speaker 1: prime time coming off of losses, but that's what you
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Speaker 1: do when you set the schedule in advance, you know.
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Speaker 1: That's right. You're going to get some of these clunkers
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Speaker 1: or games. They're not clunkers, but games being played. where
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Speaker 1: you wouldn't normally have played them.
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Speaker 2: I read that Arch has never been to Knoxville. Have
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Speaker 2: you guys seen this?
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Speaker 1: Never been to Knoxville?
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Speaker 2: Never been to the city of Knoxville.
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Speaker 1: I'm surprised by that. So he never went, I guess
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Speaker 1: he wasn't born.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he probably wasn't.
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Speaker 1: He wasn't born when Uncle Peyton was playing.
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Speaker 2: You would think that they could get him on campus
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Speaker 2: for a visit, wouldn't you?
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Speaker 1: You would think. I mean, I know he's being asked
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Speaker 1: about this this week, why Tennessee wasn't a factor in
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Speaker 1: his recruiting, why he chose Texas.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And Arch is no longer talking at length with the media,
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Speaker 1: so I don't know that he's gone in-depth on that.
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Speaker 1: I truly believe we're going to get to the point
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Speaker 1: where every Manning offspring is going to play at a
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Speaker 1: different SEC school. Like, I've got a gut feeling that
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Speaker 1: Peyton's son, Marshall, who's going to be highly recruited in 2021,
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Speaker 1: that he'll go. We were talking yesterday on the show
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Speaker 1: that he'll go to Georgia or Bama or LSU or
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Speaker 1: somewhere else like that. Do the Mannings seem like they
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Speaker 1: would want their kid to play for Lane Kiffin?
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 1: They really don't, do they? I mean, even as good
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Speaker 1: a quarterback's coach as Kiffin is. I feel like... Well, 2031,
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Speaker 1: we don't know if Lane will still be there. That's
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Speaker 1: a great point. That's a great point you're making there.
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Speaker 1: Who knows?
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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. We never... I mean, people aren't
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Speaker 2: critical of Arch Manning. I don't think people.
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Speaker 1: You mean as far as his play on the field?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been awful. He had one good quarter, and
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Speaker 2: he's been terrible. And he's playing at the same level
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Speaker 2: as Matier and Lovett right now. But nobody will take
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Speaker 2: shots at him because he's a man.
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Speaker 1: I saw a great breakdown of it that he's trying
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Speaker 1: not to make mistakes.
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Speaker 2: And... That should have been last year.
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Speaker 1: This is a problem. Until they have to have him
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Speaker 1: risk it, that's when he becomes really, really good like
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Speaker 1: he was in the fourth quarter. The first three quarters,
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Speaker 1: he's trying not to make mistakes. It is fascinating. He
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Speaker 1: goes on the road, and he plays at Tennessee. Cut
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Speaker 1: number 10, Tyler. Linebacker Arian Carter. Tennessee, man, I don't
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Speaker 1: know how you feel. Tell me after you listen to
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Speaker 1: Arian Carter, the expectations of this Tennessee team. Now they
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Speaker 1: get to play number one, Texas on the road with
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Speaker 1: that heavy moniker of being the number one team in
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Speaker 1: the country. Arian Carter expects the place to be amped
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Speaker 1: and expects the Vols to be ready. Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 7: I expect the same thing that Nealon and the fans
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Speaker 7: bring every game, honestly.
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Speaker 1: Probably a different level of intensity.
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Speaker 7: Obviously, you know, both two blue blood teams and then
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Speaker 7: obviously having Checker kneeling in there, you know, it's just
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Speaker 7: going to be a different type of intensity, I feel like,
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Speaker 7: and I don't expect nothing less.
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Speaker 1: You got an early feel on this game here, Texas-Tennessee
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Speaker 1: coming in? Can I give him the stat that Connor,
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Speaker 1: you were out yesterday dealing with your situation at your home.
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Speaker 1: More on that later. Connor O'Gara with the stat. Arch
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Speaker 1: Manning has zero road wins in regulation. His two road
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Speaker 1: wins are overtime road wins. And not that those don't count.
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Speaker 1: And his career is a starter. And his career is
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Speaker 1: a starter. Not that those don't count. But Connor's point is,
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Speaker 1: when the guy goes on the road, it's tough. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he had to go to overtime to win at Kentucky
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Speaker 1: and at State. And then you've got losses at Ohio State,
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Speaker 1: loss at Florida. I mean, as a starter, did not
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Speaker 1: win a road game in regulation last year. His road
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Speaker 1: games are tough for him.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about that some of these games might
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Speaker 2: be track meets when you look at Ole Miss and
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Speaker 2: Florida and you look at Oregon and USC. I don't
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Speaker 2: see it with this.
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Speaker 1: This one ain't one.
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Speaker 3: It's going to be a rock-fighting graveyard. The total is 56.5,
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Speaker 3: but I think points are going to be a premium.
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Speaker 3: The good news for Tennessee is they run the ball
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Speaker 3: so effectively. 299 yards per game right now, which is
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Speaker 3: fourth nationally running the football. I think that takes a
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Speaker 3: little pressure off Faison. I don't think Faison is ready
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Speaker 3: to beat a Texas defense. Could be completely wrong. This
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Speaker 3: feels like a big stage for him.
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Speaker 2: But I just think Arch is going to have a
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Speaker 2: lot of problems with this Jim Knowles defense.
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Speaker 3: And I think it's going to be a one-possession game.
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Speaker 3: And the feel I would get is it's going to
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Speaker 3: be low scoring and both quarterbacks will struggle.
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Speaker 1: This is... probably a Tennessee team trying to run it,
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Speaker 1: and then a Texas team trying to get Arch going
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Speaker 1: like he was in the fourth quarter early in that game.
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Speaker 1: You said something, Brownie, that I thought was pretty amazing pre-show.
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Speaker 1: As we were about to hit the open, Brown says,
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Speaker 1: did you guys see the betting market on Ole Miss
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Speaker 1: at Florida? And it even factors into the NFL this weekend.
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Speaker 1: The Ole Miss Rebels have a– A little moniker on
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Speaker 1: them this weekend is they hit the road going to Gainesville.
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Speaker 1: So two stats here from Ole Miss. They are currently
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Speaker 1: a three and a half point underdog at number 21, Florida.
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Speaker 1: If that holds, if they're the dog and they that
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Speaker 1: will hold, they're going to move throughout the week. They
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Speaker 1: have never been the favorite. Yeah, they're Florida from the
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Speaker 1: open in Florida and the favorite the entire time. And
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Speaker 1: on a Thursday, it would take a lot to flip that.
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Speaker 1: It's not going to flip. They will only be the
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Speaker 1: fifth top 10 team since 1978 to be a dog
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Speaker 1: to a team outside the top 20. You use top
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Speaker 1: 20 because top 25 is a relatively new invention. It
9:47
Speaker 1: used to only be a top 20. But the bigger
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Speaker 1: one that got my attention is from Dave Mason, who
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Speaker 1: covers the gambling industry for The Athletic and 24-7. Ole
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Speaker 1: Miss and the points is the most popular college football
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Speaker 1: side this weekend, ticket-wise. That means bets, right? Number of bets.
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Speaker 2: Not necessarily total dollars, but number of bets.
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Speaker 3: And I put more into tickets because I think you're
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Speaker 3: getting more of a fair percentage.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you could have.
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Speaker 3: I've used Billy Walters before, but some major guy in
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Speaker 3: that affects the numbers that puts $ 2 million on this.
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Speaker 2: To me, it's all about ticket numbers.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a number of tickets is an indication of the public.
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Speaker 2: The percentage of the public.
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Speaker 1: The percentage of the public. Who's really good at picking winners, right?
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Speaker 2: Outstanding.
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Speaker 1: Keep doing it, baby. So, Ole Miss, the biggest tickets
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Speaker 1: of any college game... And more bats than any of
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Speaker 1: Sunday's NFL games so far. I know this guy well
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Speaker 1: enough to know that's what his head is doing right now.
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Speaker 3: I said it on Monday. I think Florida is a really,
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Speaker 3: really good play. I think emotionally Ole Miss coming back
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Speaker 3: to earth. I heard somebody this morning, might have been
10:54
Speaker 3: Rick Neuheisel. He was a guest on one of the
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Speaker 3: Mad Dog channels or something, and he was talking about
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Speaker 3: Ole Miss is not losing this game.
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Speaker 2: Trinidad is coming to play.
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Speaker 1: Listen, he has taught me. This aspect of it, I
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Speaker 1: never paid attention to this before I knew Lance, and
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Speaker 1: Lance has taught me. The public looks at this and
11:13
Speaker 1: they're like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute,
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Speaker 1: wait a minute, wait a minute. I just watched Ole
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Speaker 1: Miss beat LSU. And I'm getting points? They're a top
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Speaker 1: five team and I am getting a field goal on
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Speaker 1: the road? It's my old Miami Heat LeBron James. I
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Speaker 1: get LeBron James, Dwayne Wade in points at Indiana?
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Speaker 6: At Indiana.
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Speaker 1: Every time they were at the Pacers, they were catching points.
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Speaker 1: At Indiana? And I know exactly when people will say
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Speaker 1: that to Lance, Lance would say, you're getting those points
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Speaker 1: for a reason.
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Speaker 2: Well, the seesaw of the public opinion. I mean, you
11:41
Speaker 2: guys remember a couple of weeks ago, Oklahoma is going
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Speaker 2: to destroy Michigan.
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Speaker 3: Michigan won't be able to score. Michigan wins the game.
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Speaker 3: Now Oklahoma is like the worst offense we've ever seen.
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Speaker 3: Dead man approaching Athens. I know you hate people that
11:54
Speaker 3: want to top your story because Donnelly said you've got
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Speaker 3: this incredible Ole Miss thing. But I ran across this
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Speaker 3: this morning, which is pretty awesome. Pete Golding, obviously coaching
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Speaker 3: his eighth game, seventh against a ranked opponent.
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Speaker 2: If he wins, it would be his sixth ranked win.
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Speaker 2: That's more than 48 power fours over the last five years.
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Speaker 1: All the guy does is coaching these games, it seems.
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Speaker 1: It's a unique circumstance. It really is.
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Speaker 2: But half the power fours.
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Speaker 3: Auburn is one of those teams that Pete Golding, over
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Speaker 3: the last five years, will have more ranked wins than Auburn.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, not just coaches. You're talking about programs. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: If he wins this game Saturday.
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Speaker 2: I'm talking about Nebraska. I'm talking about Iowa. I'm talking
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Speaker 2: about Wisconsin.
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Speaker 1: So that's if he wins Saturday. He'll have more ranked
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Speaker 1: wins than those programs have had.
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Speaker 2: Over the last five years.
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Speaker 1: Over the last five years.
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Speaker 2: And this is in eight games.
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Speaker 1: Pete Golding will be like 100 years from now. They'll
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Speaker 1: have to explain this.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they will.
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Speaker 1: Because they'll be like, some coach will have this incredibly
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Speaker 1: difficult schedule to the start, and they'll say... Only Ole Miss'
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Speaker 1: Pete Golding coached against more top 25 teams, and then
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Speaker 1: they'll have to explain why. Remember, Jim, Pete Golding took
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Speaker 1: over in the playoffs. That's right. So it was only
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Speaker 1: ranked games to start with for him.
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Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
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Speaker 1: A coach left his team before the playoffs? It was
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Speaker 1: a guy who ended his career coaching at Central Arkansas.
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Speaker 1: His name was Lane Kiffin. We'll get into the big
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Speaker 1: it's Dan Lanning versus Lincoln Riley. It is Oregon versus USC.
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Speaker 1: must-win situation week four of For a team that everyone
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Speaker 1: had in the playoffs, here's Dan Lanning.
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Speaker 4: How much do you acknowledge that this is a pretty
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Speaker 4: big game? It's a ranked opponent, ranked opponent. And what's
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Speaker 4: at stake for conference, start of conference play and what
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Speaker 4: a second loss could mean for this team or what
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Speaker 4: a win would mean for this team? Do you embrace that?
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Speaker 4: Do you talk about that? Or is it just another game?
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Speaker 4: This is the biggest game because it's this game.
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Speaker 5: It's certainly not just another game. We don't talk about
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Speaker 5: all the scenarios that play out. We worry about the
15:03
Speaker 5: things that we can control. So how can we go
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Speaker 5: out here and perform the best that we want to
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Speaker 5: be able to perform? But do we think this is
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Speaker 5: a big game?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Do our players realize that?
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Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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Speaker 5: It's Big Ten play.
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Speaker 2: That's different.
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Speaker 5: All that matters. We don't go through all the what-ifs scenarios.
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Speaker 5: We go through, okay, how do we prepare to be
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Speaker 5: the best version of us for this game?
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Speaker 1: Okay, let me let you hear Lincoln Riley, too, on
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Speaker 1: the other side of the street. And then I want
15:25
Speaker 1: to talk about this game. Lincoln Riley also talking. about
15:29
Speaker 1: the magnitude of Oregon-USC?
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Speaker 8: It's definitely an important game. There's no question about it.
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Speaker 8: It's two good teams, two really good programs going at it.
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Speaker 8: It was a really big game last year, too. It
15:42
Speaker 8: had big playoff implications and all of that. That's honestly
15:47
Speaker 8: what this game should be. This game should have a
15:53
Speaker 8: lot riding on it and be important. It's important to
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Speaker 8: The fan bases, it's important to college football. And so, yeah,
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Speaker 8: I mean, I think it's exactly what it should be.
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Speaker 8: And we're excited. We're excited about it. Our guys are
16:04
Speaker 8: excited to play. It'll be a hell of a battle.
16:07
Speaker 1: Fact of the matter is, though, USC hasn't really been
16:10
Speaker 1: in the playoff conversation since 2009. We love to do
16:14
Speaker 1: things like this in this industry. This is the most
16:16
Speaker 1: important game for Lincoln Riley in his USC tenure. Oh,
16:19
Speaker 1: that's easy. I know we love to do those things
16:22
Speaker 1: in this industry, but this one feels pretty easy. Biggest
16:26
Speaker 1: game for USC since Pete Carroll was the head coach.
16:28
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know.
16:29
Speaker 3: I mean, 2016, I know they got off to the
16:32
Speaker 3: rocky start against Alabama, but that was a two-loss team
16:35
Speaker 3: that won the Big Ten, won a Rose Bowl.
16:37
Speaker 1: Pac-12.
16:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pac-12, excuse me. Won a Rose Bowl against... Ohio
16:42
Speaker 2: or against Penn state. And in one of those games,
16:44
Speaker 2: it meant something, you know, a lot of these bowl
16:46
Speaker 2: games don't necessarily mean something.
16:47
Speaker 1: That's my point. That was a 14 playoff that USC
16:52
Speaker 1: really never got. They were close, but not really to
16:56
Speaker 1: being in that 14 playoff. Meanwhile, This is one of
16:59
Speaker 1: those games that gets you into that.
17:01
Speaker 3: Well, he's coached 19 games against ranked opponents since he's
17:05
Speaker 3: been at USC.
17:07
Speaker 2: What do you think the record is?
17:08
Speaker 3: Say that again now. 19 ranked opponents he's coached against
17:12
Speaker 3: since he's been at USC. I feel like when Lance
17:14
Speaker 3: asks me these questions, it's either 18-1 or 0-19. It
17:15
Speaker 3: can't be 0-19.
17:16
Speaker 1: I'm going to say 5-14. 3-16.
17:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's 6-13. That's better than I would have thought.
17:22
Speaker 2: But it's not great, and it's got to be better,
17:24
Speaker 2: and this would be his signature win up until this point. Now,
17:28
Speaker 2: you know, unfortunately for Lincoln Riley, if they win this game,
17:31
Speaker 2: it could go the other way for Oregon. I think
17:34
Speaker 2: USC can lose this game and still get in based
17:36
Speaker 2: on schedule. I don't think Oregon can. I mean, if
17:40
Speaker 2: they beat Ohio State, I just– That's in the horseshoe
17:43
Speaker 2: for those that forget.
17:44
Speaker 3: I just don't know how they're going to go to
17:45
Speaker 3: Columbus and win that game after losing, you know, not
17:49
Speaker 3: only at the Coliseum, but losing in Stillwater to Oklahoma State.
17:54
Speaker 1: Joe Klatt will be with us at 1230 Eastern. 11.30
17:58
Speaker 1: Central on the next round part of the show, Hour 3.
18:01
Speaker 1: And I'll ask him about that, but I'm with you guys.
18:03
Speaker 1: I feel like this is an elimination game for Oregon
18:07
Speaker 1: if they lose this. Obviously, they can battle back, but
18:10
Speaker 1: I just don't think they will. Yeah, the only thing
18:12
Speaker 1: that saves it from being an elimination game is the
18:16
Speaker 1: fact that they could still win the Big Ten by
18:17
Speaker 1: losing this game. they could still lose this game and
18:20
Speaker 1: make it to the Big Ten Championship. Like you said yesterday,
18:23
Speaker 1: like Alabama lost to Florida State. That's the equivalent to
18:25
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. That's right. This would be one loss in conference.
18:27
Speaker 1: Terrible losses. Terrible losses, no doubt. Alabama losing at Florida State.
18:31
Speaker 1: Oregon losing at Oak State. Terrible losses. But in this world,
18:36
Speaker 1: if you are in the Big Ten Championship game or
18:38
Speaker 1: the SEC Championship game, you're going to the college football playoff. Now,
18:42
Speaker 1: I think what we're all saying here, Lance, is if
18:44
Speaker 1: you've lost this game... You going the rest of the
18:47
Speaker 1: way unscathed and playing in Indianapolis feels remote.
18:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does.
18:51
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see what the crowd looks like
18:53
Speaker 3: in the Coliseum. I mean, the renovations they've done, it
18:55
Speaker 3: looks beautiful on camera, but you never see it full.
18:58
Speaker 3: But I would assume Oregon's going to send a lot
19:00
Speaker 3: of people down. Tickets, you can get in for $ 78.
19:03
Speaker 3: To put that in perspective, that's more than A &
19:06
Speaker 3: M at LSU.
19:07
Speaker 4: Wow.
19:08
Speaker 3: Get-ins are $ 71 there. South Carolina at Alabama. What's going
19:12
Speaker 3: on with Alabama fans?
19:13
Speaker 2: $ 19 you can get in bright day.
19:14
Speaker 1: That's a night game too. It's going to be good weather.
19:17
Speaker 2: But 78 is, I mean, I know it's the LA economy,
19:19
Speaker 2: but that shows there's a demand for that ticket right now.
19:21
Speaker 1: And a 4.30 p.m. kick, so there's no excuse. Game
19:24
Speaker 1: too early, game too hot. You know, it's a 4.30
19:27
Speaker 1: Pacific time kick. I mean, this should be as raucous
19:31
Speaker 1: as that place gets. Like, even when that place is
19:33
Speaker 1: full and packed, it's not the most intimidating place in
19:36
Speaker 1: the world to play. Though I'm told it used to
19:38
Speaker 1: be back in the day, like when Back in the
19:41
Speaker 1: John McKay days, I think the Coliseum was a feared
19:43
Speaker 1: place to go. I think usually just because the quality
19:46
Speaker 1: of the team. It wasn't the crowd necessarily.
19:49
Speaker 2: It wasn't the rocket.
19:50
Speaker 4: Crowd.
19:51
Speaker 1: They've called it the mausoleum for years. We didn't put
19:54
Speaker 1: as much. We didn't talk about home field advantage in
19:58
Speaker 1: crowds as much back in the 70s.
20:00
Speaker 2: Yeah.
20:01
Speaker 1: Because, you know. I guess people acted differently. There were
20:05
Speaker 1: fewer students that were allowed in.
20:07
Speaker 2: We didn't have sports talk.
20:09
Speaker 1: We didn't have sports talk to talk about this kind
20:11
Speaker 1: of stuff.
20:11
Speaker 3: But I mean, this atmosphere, and I've been to games
20:13
Speaker 3: there before, it will be, I mean, it will be
20:16
Speaker 3: way down the pecking order. Like the two best atmospheres
20:19
Speaker 3: are definitely going to be in Neyland and they're going
20:22
Speaker 3: to be in the swamp for sure. Like those will
20:24
Speaker 3: be crazy. It's like a get in right now to
20:26
Speaker 3: Neyland is $ 359. That's a big stadium.
20:30
Speaker 1: And what's the swamp again?
20:32
Speaker 2: A swamp get in. It's huge, I think. It's 198.
20:36
Speaker 2: I mean, it's second biggest ticket this weekend.
20:38
Speaker 1: That's crazy. All right. A little NFL will set the
20:41
Speaker 1: table tonight. And I got a pretty interesting NFL question.
20:45
Speaker 1: But I want Lance to start thinking about this later on.
20:47
Speaker 1: Brown's already got his head started thinking about this. Later
20:50
Speaker 1: in the sport state today, who are the New York
20:55
Speaker 1: Jets in college football when it comes to the quarterback position?
21:00
Speaker 1: You see what I'm asking?
21:00
Speaker 2: Yeah.
21:01
Speaker 1: Who is that? Keep it to the power four. I mean,
21:04
Speaker 1: I don't need you to throw, you know, Coastal Carolina
21:06
Speaker 1: or something at me later on. But who are the
21:08
Speaker 1: New York Jets in college football when it comes to
21:11
Speaker 1: the quarterback position? When we come back, though, a little
21:14
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin crying after the loss in Oxford and the
21:17
Speaker 1: NFL tonight. And who doesn't have a ring that's still
21:21
Speaker 1: playing in the NFL? All that right here on Sporting State.
21:26
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21:32
Speaker 1: As you would imagine on the SEC teleconference, Pete Golding
21:36
Speaker 1: was a little different than Lane Kiffin was. Apparently, Lane
21:40
Speaker 1: got into a conversation about a text thread, the text
21:44
Speaker 1: threads with coaches going on. Again, fired up that the
21:48
Speaker 1: nine-game conference schedule is different in our league and the
21:52
Speaker 1: SEC than it is in others. pointing to some teams
21:55
Speaker 1: like Miami that may not play a ranked team all
21:58
Speaker 1: season long other than Notre Dame and some others. Louisville
22:01
Speaker 1: now with their toughest part of their schedule possibly behind them.
22:05
Speaker 1: And he also went back to this trip to Oxford.
22:09
Speaker 1: And this is from WAFB and the great Jacques Doucette
22:14
Speaker 1: down in Baton Rouge who covers LSU. from the SEC
22:20
Speaker 1: teleconference where Lane says that Ole Miss kept playing the music.
22:25
Speaker 1: It's supposed to cut off. Any in-city music is supposed
22:28
Speaker 1: to cut off at 15 seconds. Lane complained that it
22:31
Speaker 1: actually went on through the snap several times. Listen in.
22:34
Speaker 9: You know, you get back on track, play at home,
22:37
Speaker 9: and those games happen. And a lot of factors go
22:40
Speaker 9: into that. You know, we didn't protect really well around
22:42
Speaker 9: them and crowd noise and– Music being played all the
22:48
Speaker 9: way through the snap when the center's hand's on the
22:50
Speaker 9: ball again and again. So those will help you struggle
22:55
Speaker 9: at quarterback and false start. So there's a lot of
23:01
Speaker 9: things to improve on around him and that he'll do
23:04
Speaker 9: better and play better this week.
23:06
Speaker 2: Maybe you just paid for the wrong quarterback. Why can't
23:08
Speaker 2: you ever take responsibility? I mean, it's so old with
23:11
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin.
23:12
Speaker 1: He did answer back. He said this was... Ole Miss'
23:15
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He did say that. And, you know, Pete
23:19
Speaker 1: has gone out of his way of saying this wasn't
23:22
Speaker 1: our Super Bowl. We've got to get ready to play
23:23
Speaker 1: Florida this week. It's a tough challenge. It takes a
23:26
Speaker 1: special level of arrogance to call a game another program
23:29
Speaker 1: Super Bowl simply because you were the head coach of
23:31
Speaker 1: the other team. That's right. That's why I go back
23:33
Speaker 1: to the fact they didn't. Most Super Bowls, you rush
23:35
Speaker 1: the field in college if you win that game, and
23:38
Speaker 1: they didn't rush the field. It's one of the smartest
23:40
Speaker 1: observations you've ever made, and I had not thought of
23:42
Speaker 1: it until you brought it up. I said one up.
23:43
Speaker 1: I didn't say the only one. I had not thought
23:45
Speaker 1: about it until you brought it up. That probably, more
23:49
Speaker 1: than the music, more than the loss, that probably stuck
23:51
Speaker 1: with Lane Kiffin more than anything, that he was able
23:53
Speaker 1: to walk off that field and not have the moment
23:57
Speaker 1: where he had to fight off an Ole Miss student
23:59
Speaker 1: or his state trooper had to Give somebody a forearm.
24:02
Speaker 1: The fact he didn't have to do that probably bothered
24:04
Speaker 1: him all night. Yeah, and probably still bothers him all
24:06
Speaker 1: the way through the time. We would have heard about
24:08
Speaker 1: it all week. Oh, gotcha. So tell me, LSU with
24:13
Speaker 1: A & M coming to town, just gut feeling around
24:15
Speaker 1: the table real quick about that one. Hard one to
24:18
Speaker 1: figure out?
24:19
Speaker 2: No, not really.
24:20
Speaker 3: I mean, Leavitt's got a turnover problem, but I think
24:23
Speaker 3: Texas A & M has got more of a quarterback
24:25
Speaker 3: problem in general, and I don't know where they're going
24:27
Speaker 3: to get their offense. We'll know a lot about LSU.
24:30
Speaker 3: I fully expect LSU to bounce back and maybe even
24:32
Speaker 3: win this game going away. If they struggle and if
24:35
Speaker 3: A & M was to pull the upset, this thing
24:37
Speaker 3: could take a nosedive quickly if A & M pulls
24:40
Speaker 3: the upset.
24:40
Speaker 1: I think A & M pulls the upset. I'm ready
24:42
Speaker 1: to go A & M.
24:42
Speaker 2: I hope you're right.
24:43
Speaker 1: I think A & M pulls the upset in this one.
24:45
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24:50
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24:53
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24:54
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26:25
Speaker 1: the show, we jumped into one as well. And didn't
26:28
Speaker 1: you tell me it's down to just two people now
26:30
Speaker 1: on our show? I think it is.
26:31
Speaker 2: I think it's me and Forrester.
26:32
Speaker 1: You and Forrester. Forrester, do you have your play yet ready?
26:35
Speaker 1: Do you have your play yet? Do you know who
26:36
Speaker 1: you're doing yet?
26:37
Speaker 2: No, but I mean, I can go on the fly.
26:39
Speaker 1: Okay. Forrester, do you know yours? If not, we can
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Speaker 1: do it later in the show. Yeah, I can do it. Okay.
26:44
Speaker 1: I just still wonder... Get through Atlanta and Green Bay
26:46
Speaker 1: and not be– do you have a play? Yeah, it's
26:50
Speaker 1: Green Bay. It's Green Bay. How do you spell it's
26:52
Speaker 1: going to go Green Bay?
26:54
Speaker 2: It sure is.
26:54
Speaker 1: So Green Bay for you tonight is your survivor play.
26:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will continue to fade Miami. I'll take Kansas City.
27:01
Speaker 1: So you'll go Kansas City. Excellent play by you. And
27:04
Speaker 1: the next loss. And the survivor gives to the winner
27:07
Speaker 1: and we'll have balloons and grand prizes. We're going to
27:10
Speaker 1: reset and keep going. Maybe, maybe we'll do that with
27:13
Speaker 1: our friends. I'm sorry, guys. I had no idea. Arizona
27:18
Speaker 1: was going to win at the chargers week one.
27:20
Speaker 4: Yeah.
27:21
Speaker 1: Obviously I'd still maybe be in this had it not
27:23
Speaker 1: gone there. So here is our NFL power rating, top five,
27:28
Speaker 1: bottom five that we do here on the show. Um,
27:32
Speaker 1: I go Bills, Rams, Seahawks, Niners, Chiefs at the top.
27:38
Speaker 1: LT goes Niners, Seahawks, Bills, Chiefs, Rams. And Brown does Bills, Niners, Rams, Chiefs, Seahawks.
27:46
Speaker 1: So the same five teams, right? It looks like it.
27:49
Speaker 1: We just jumbled them around differently.
27:51
Speaker 2: Damn, Brown, how do you have the Seahawks five?
27:53
Speaker 1: Because I don't think they're as good as those other four.
27:55
Speaker 1: I mean, your team's better than the Seahawks, Lance. I
27:58
Speaker 1: really wanted to put the Rams second, but they did
28:00
Speaker 1: lose to San Francisco. I can't ignore that. Yeah, I can't.
28:03
Speaker 1: It's the NFL. It was just two weeks ago.
28:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, that ended up being an ass-whipping.
28:09
Speaker 1: And a totally different continent, done away. Bottom five, I
28:12
Speaker 1: go Buccaneers, Jets, Commanders, Titans, Dolphins, Dead Lasts. El Tigo's Commanders, Buccaneers, Falcons, Titans,
28:23
Speaker 1: and Dolphins. I just can't put the Falcons there yet.
28:26
Speaker 1: Maybe that changes after tonight. How's that possible? Have you
28:29
Speaker 1: watched them? They've scored 16 points in two games. Because
28:33
Speaker 1: you have Bijan. and you've got London, and you've got
28:37
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts.
28:38
Speaker 2: At some point, you know what you don't have. This
28:43
Speaker 2: is amazing. And I was talking to our man Luke.
28:45
Speaker 2: We went for a couple of beers yesterday, and he
28:46
Speaker 2: was talking about how bad it is to be a
28:48
Speaker 2: Falcons fan. And I was like, I went through the
28:50
Speaker 2: years with the Rams. So the Falcons are the first
28:53
Speaker 2: team to not run a play in the opposition's red
28:57
Speaker 2: zone through the first two weeks since the Rams in 2008.
29:01
Speaker 1: Mike Johnson gave us that stat on the show yesterday.
29:03
Speaker 1: Blew me away.
29:04
Speaker 2: How impossible is that?
29:05
Speaker 1: One of four teams ever. One of four teams ever.
29:08
Speaker 1: I mean, that is incompetence at its highest level. I
29:11
Speaker 1: don't know how you can be that bad. What was
29:13
Speaker 1: the Rams record that year, Lance?
29:14
Speaker 2: In 2008, hold tight, that was.
29:18
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm going to guess not good.
29:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't good.
29:21
Speaker 1: The other one was the 0-16 Lions. Yeah, that's what
29:24
Speaker 1: Brooks told me this morning. This puts you in the
29:26
Speaker 1: category with the 0-16 Lions.
29:27
Speaker 2: Michael Penix Jr. is here to bail them out. I
29:31
Speaker 2: do think it'll be a difference.
29:32
Speaker 1: You can laugh all you want. I made two NFL
29:35
Speaker 1: bets yesterday, and both of them are on the Falcons tonight.
29:39
Speaker 1: Have fun, Scott.
29:39
Speaker 2: I've got a play up and available.
29:41
Speaker 1: They're not going to win a game. Packers is hosting
29:46
Speaker 1: Falcons tonight. You get a play at lanceslike.com. How close is,
29:50
Speaker 1: not that I'm not campaigning for my Dolphins, I just
29:53
Speaker 1: wonder how close is your team number 31 to To
29:56
Speaker 1: the Dolphins not being in everyone's basement. I mean, they
29:58
Speaker 1: deserve to be there right now. Trust me, they deserve
30:00
Speaker 1: to be there. I just, I don't even think about it.
30:02
Speaker 1: You're going to start there all season long. I figured
30:06
Speaker 1: out where to put everybody else.
30:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would reevaluate once the Dolphins win a game.
30:11
Speaker 1: Okay, so in 2027. It was harder for me to
30:15
Speaker 1: figure out. Who's number one than it was, obviously, who's 32.
30:20
Speaker 1: I don't disagree. I'm not campaigning for the Dolphins. I'm
30:22
Speaker 1: just asking how close it is.
30:23
Speaker 3: When Kevin Stefanski took the job and Tua basically is
30:28
Speaker 3: still getting paid by the Dolphins.
30:30
Speaker 2: A lot of money. I just felt like this was
30:32
Speaker 2: going to be a much better offense. We haven't seen Tua.
30:35
Speaker 2: We haven't seen Penix.
30:37
Speaker 3: They are averaging eight points a game, and they're minus
30:39
Speaker 3: six in turnovers through two games.
30:40
Speaker 2: Can't win in the NFL, turn in the football.
30:42
Speaker 1: But correct me if I'm wrong. Tua is... 100%. Now,
30:46
Speaker 1: I'm going to go heavy air quotes because we are
30:47
Speaker 1: talking about Tua here. But in Tua terms, he's 100% tonight, right?
30:51
Speaker 1: This Pinnock's choice is, they think that gives them the
30:55
Speaker 1: better shot at winning the game. I think so going
30:57
Speaker 1: into the game tonight. 7-15 on prime. 0-2 Atlanta. 1-1
31:01
Speaker 1: Green Bay. The 1-1 Green Bay win was against... a
31:06
Speaker 1: pretty bad team as well, right? The Jets.
31:08
Speaker 2: They were down 10 points in the fourth quarter, had
31:10
Speaker 2: to come back and win that game. And Aaron Glenn
31:12
Speaker 2: botched overtime.
31:12
Speaker 3: Green Bay leading the NFL right now in penalties, just
31:15
Speaker 3: playing really sloppy football.
31:16
Speaker 1: This is a yucky game.
31:17
Speaker 6: Yeah.
31:18
Speaker 1: One of my bets was on the Falcons taking the points.
31:21
Speaker 1: The other one was on the Falcons, where you can
31:24
Speaker 1: slide it and get more points and more odds. Falcons
31:28
Speaker 1: by a touchdown tonight. Wow. And everybody watches the show,
31:31
Speaker 1: if you're new, I'm really, really... Not good at making bets.
31:35
Speaker 1: LanceIsLock.com for the official play. I did want to get
31:38
Speaker 1: to an ESPN story that Catherine Terrell wrote. The best
31:43
Speaker 1: 10 players in NFL history without Super Bowl rings. I'm
31:47
Speaker 1: going to give you this list. It's pretty obvious. It's
31:49
Speaker 1: talked about a lot. But I want to ask you guys,
31:52
Speaker 1: and Brooks and Forrest, you all can chime in as well,
31:55
Speaker 1: the best players playing right now who don't have a
31:58
Speaker 1: Super Bowl ring. But they go Marino one, obviously. That's
32:02
Speaker 1: always the go-to. Barry Sanders, Munoz, Butkus, who I didn't
32:07
Speaker 1: know didn't have one, but I guess he played before
32:09
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl era, right?
32:10
Speaker 2: They've only got one in 85.
32:12
Speaker 1: And he played in Chicago. Bruce Smith, greatest tight end ever,
32:16
Speaker 1: Tony Gonzalez. Alan Page, who lost with the Vikings in
32:20
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Deacon Jones, again, he was before Super
32:23
Speaker 1: Bowl era. LaDainian Tomlinson. And then I didn't know Randy
32:28
Speaker 1: Moss didn't win one with the Patriots. So Randy Moss
32:30
Speaker 1: never won one.
32:30
Speaker 2: Nope. Had that special year in 07, but they couldn't
32:33
Speaker 2: get it across the finish line.
32:34
Speaker 1: So that's Catherine Terrell just missing Junior Seau, Fran Tarkin,
32:38
Speaker 1: and quarterback the Vikings to a couple of Super Bowl losses.
32:42
Speaker 1: But playing right now in the NFL, who could join
32:45
Speaker 1: that list? And who doesn't have one now and possibly
32:49
Speaker 1: doesn't get one ever? Well, the most obvious answer, the
32:52
Speaker 1: easiest answer, is the best answer, I think, is Josh Allen.
32:55
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's the best player in the NFL not to
32:57
Speaker 1: have a ring.
32:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, we go 1A, 1B, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. Oh, really?
33:01
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to go Myles Garrett.
33:02
Speaker 2: No, I was going to go Lamar.
33:04
Speaker 3: Myles would be up there, but Lamar, Joe Burrow, if
33:08
Speaker 3: we get away from quarterbacks, Myles Garrett, Christian McCaffrey– We
33:12
Speaker 3: could look at some 49ers, Trent Williams.
33:14
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry. Derrick Henry, definitely. Max Crosby, T.J. Watt, Jamar Chase,
33:20
Speaker 2: George Kittle.
33:21
Speaker 1: I mean, just listen to these names. And the vast,
33:24
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say vast.
33:25
Speaker 2: How many active coaches do you think in the NFL
33:27
Speaker 2: right now have Super Bowl championships as a head coach?
33:29
Speaker 1: Active? Sean Payton.
33:31
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying they're the same team yet.
33:33
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, Sean McVay, Andy Reid. Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy,
33:37
Speaker 1: and that's it.
33:38
Speaker 2: Nope.
33:38
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh? Yep.
33:41
Speaker 2: Is that it? There's one more.
33:42
Speaker 1: There's one more?
33:42
Speaker 2: There's six.
33:43
Speaker 1: Who am I missing that's obvious? Oh, Mike McDonald. Yeah,
33:46
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald.
33:48
Speaker 2: So these things aren't easy to get.
33:49
Speaker 1: No, they're not. I mean, and the truth is, those
33:52
Speaker 1: names you just reeled off, you reeled off a lot
33:54
Speaker 1: of names. The bigger portion of them will not win.
33:56
Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to ask. Josh Allen. It feels like,
33:59
Speaker 1: you know. Boy, I mean, if they don't win it
34:01
Speaker 1: this year. It feels good right now. We're two weeks in.
34:03
Speaker 2: Yeah. But.
34:05
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been doing this a while now. At
34:06
Speaker 1: some point, the window starts closing. I don't know where
34:10
Speaker 1: are Mahomes if he's going to win another one. He's
34:12
Speaker 1: won a few. He's two games in, and they look
34:14
Speaker 1: like they've turned it around a bit. Yeah, I still
34:17
Speaker 1: don't believe in them. So the Mahomes window may have
34:20
Speaker 1: closed already.
34:21
Speaker 3: But, you know, to win one, you've got to get
34:22
Speaker 3: to one. And Josh hadn't even gotten to one. He
34:25
Speaker 3: just had weird, weird situations. The way he was careless
34:29
Speaker 3: with the football game. And the end of the first
34:31
Speaker 3: half against Denver last year really cost them.
34:35
Speaker 1: And here's what I fear would happen to Josh Allen.
34:37
Speaker 1: And this is just a gut feeling. Maybe it's because
34:39
Speaker 1: I'm a Dolphins fan. I hate the Bills. But I
34:42
Speaker 1: fear for him that he'll finally get there one day
34:45
Speaker 1: and it'll be built up like finally Josh Allen's going
34:47
Speaker 1: to get his moments and they get upset by somebody.
34:49
Speaker 1: And he gets the Dan Marino where he gets to
34:51
Speaker 1: the end of his career and they're like, man, this
34:54
Speaker 1: guy was amazing. Maybe the best quarterback of our generation ever.
34:57
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you the wildest thing. I'm correct about this, right?
35:02
Speaker 1: Elway had lost a Super Bowl. He lost three. Then
35:05
Speaker 1: he got there and won back-to-back, right? Yes, but they
35:07
Speaker 1: had lost three, right? But they were the last two
35:09
Speaker 1: years of his career.
35:10
Speaker 9: Correct.
35:11
Speaker 1: So he ended up two and three in Super Bowls.
35:13
Speaker 1: He had a losing record.
35:14
Speaker 2: What's amazing is the 49ers haven't won one since 1995.
35:18
Speaker 2: That is amazing. The 94 season, the 95 Super Bowl.
35:20
Speaker 2: George Seifert and Steve Young, right? Yeah, and it would
35:24
Speaker 2: take care of so many for so many guys because
35:26
Speaker 2: McCaffrey would win his and Trent Williams and Fred Warner
35:29
Speaker 2: and George Kittle and.
35:30
Speaker 1: All of these great players. Brock Purdy, the great Brock Purdy.
35:33
Speaker 1: That would. But, I mean, Lamar and Derrick Henry could
35:36
Speaker 1: get it if the Ravens were able to do it.
35:38
Speaker 1: Because Derrick Henry is going to be remembered as one
35:41
Speaker 1: of the greatest running backs in NFL history, right?
35:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think when you look at those guys. Now,
35:45
Speaker 3: Walter Payton got one. Barry Sanders didn't. Jim Brown was
35:48
Speaker 3: before it. other great, LaDainian Tomlinson, who you mentioned. I mean,
35:53
Speaker 3: there's some great running backs. Adrian Peterson never got one.
35:56
Speaker 1: But there is a chance that Henry, I mentioned Catherine
35:58
Speaker 1: Terrell's top ten best to never have won it. There's
36:01
Speaker 1: a chance Henry's on that list, that he could be
36:04
Speaker 1: one of the top ten best players never to win
36:06
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. I mean, you'll remember Derrick Henry, LaDainian Tomlinson,
36:10
Speaker 1: They're pretty close on their careers, aren't they? I need
36:13
Speaker 1: to pull up all-time NFL rushing yards.
36:14
Speaker 2: I would put Barry Sanders probably in front of those guys,
36:17
Speaker 2: but close.
36:17
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry's 10th all-time in rushing yards and third in
36:21
Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns now. He's behind Tomlinson in both of those? Yes.
36:26
Speaker 1: I was just wondering, Tomlinson's second in touchdowns, is that right?
36:30
Speaker 2: Yes.
36:30
Speaker 1: But in terms of yards, Henry, he's got some upper
36:34
Speaker 1: mobility though, Brooks, because he's at 13-230 right now. He's
36:37
Speaker 1: probably going to get up to fifth or sixth by
36:39
Speaker 1: the end of the year. At the end of the year,
36:41
Speaker 1: he's only going to be behind Curtis Martin, Adrian Peterson,
36:43
Speaker 1: Barry Sanders, Frank Gore, Walter Payton, Emmitt Smith, unless he
36:46
Speaker 1: gets hurt.
36:46
Speaker 2: I don't want to doubt Derrick Henry.
36:48
Speaker 1: He'll pass LaDainian Tomlinson. But he's 34 years old. Yeah,
36:50
Speaker 1: but this year, that's just the season. 32, I thought. Yeah,
36:53
Speaker 1: I thought 32 as well. He only needs 400 yards
36:55
Speaker 1: to get past LaDainian Tomlinson. So if he does not
36:58
Speaker 1: get injured, he'll pass LaDainian Tomlinson this year. And he'll
37:01
Speaker 1: be seventh all-time. I mean, he's got a really good shot.
37:05
Speaker 1: He only needs 900 yards. to pass Curtis Martin and
37:08
Speaker 1: be 6th all-time.
37:09
Speaker 2: And I would be surprised if Baltimore wins championship this year.
37:12
Speaker 1: Me too, me too. Because it feels like Lamar's window
37:14
Speaker 1: is closed there. And I still, the Bengals are 2-0,
37:18
Speaker 1: but I'm still not buying this Bengals team. I don't
37:20
Speaker 1: know why. It's been an ugly 2-0. That's why. I mean,
37:24
Speaker 1: I say ugly. I mean, I guess the win at Houston.
37:26
Speaker 1: I mean, technically.
37:27
Speaker 2: No, the win at Houston, they were dominant defensively.
37:30
Speaker 3: I mean, the addition of Dexter Lawrence up front on
37:33
Speaker 3: that defensive line has been, been massive through two games.
37:38
Speaker 1: For cincinnati team that i'm sleeping on um an amazing
37:42
Speaker 1: stat as you get ready to watch the nfl this
37:43
Speaker 1: weekend um marvin harrison jr uh the team that knocked
37:48
Speaker 1: you out of the survivor pool yes just one catch
37:51
Speaker 1: through two games.
37:52
Speaker 2: He's only had two targets why is that do you
37:57
Speaker 2: it's weird like mac wilson and trey mcbride get all
38:00
Speaker 2: their targets i understand trey mcbride but But Marvin Harrison,
38:03
Speaker 2: he had a really good preseason, too. It's very, very strange.
38:08
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Las Vegas, 2-0, gets Brock Bowers back this weekend.
38:13
Speaker 2: But they've got to go to New Orleans to take
38:15
Speaker 2: on the revamped Saints.
38:17
Speaker 1: Two of the most surprising teams so far in the NFL.
38:19
Speaker 2: The Saints are a two-point conversion away from being 2-0 themselves.
38:22
Speaker 1: They're 1-1. Tyler Shuck leads. I think I'm right about this.
38:25
Speaker 1: Leads the NFL in passing yards right now. Is that correct?
38:28
Speaker 1: Just ahead of Bryce Young, same division.
38:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's going to be one of those quarterbacks, and
38:32
Speaker 3: I said this when I got glimpses last year, he's
38:34
Speaker 3: going to have a better NFL career than college career.
38:37
Speaker 1: Yep. And then there's the Giants, who have now lost
38:40
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart for the season. Where would you guys go
38:44
Speaker 1: for your quarterback? Obviously, Jameis Winston... Didn't look like he
38:48
Speaker 1: was prepared and ready to go to the other night.
38:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't get into that too much. I would
38:51
Speaker 2: have cut him Tuesday morning. I really would have.
38:54
Speaker 1: You said that on the air. Did I? Yeah.
38:56
Speaker 2: Well, I think he's good for the locker room, so
38:59
Speaker 2: there is a little bit of back and forth there.
39:01
Speaker 2: I mean, Harbaugh knows what he's doing, but he wasn't prepared.
39:03
Speaker 1: A lot of people in the NFL circles literally question
39:08
Speaker 1: his eyesight, whether or not he, you know. The year
39:12
Speaker 1: he threw the equal amount of interceptions and touchdowns for
39:15
Speaker 1: your team? Yeah, but they're still questioning whether or not
39:17
Speaker 1: But he's got that fixed. Is he wearing goggles when
39:20
Speaker 1: he's playing? Does he have his prescription right? Maybe some
39:23
Speaker 1: of that has to do. But I watch guys like
39:25
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz and Marcus Mariota. Those guys came in and
39:29
Speaker 1: they play well. I mean, as well as they can
39:31
Speaker 1: play as back-up quarterbacks. But they signed Will Levis yesterday, right?
39:33
Speaker 1: So that's the fix. They've got Will Levis, but I
39:35
Speaker 1: don't know if that's the fix. It is not. I
39:38
Speaker 1: can tell you. On the fan radio, which you can
39:40
Speaker 1: hear on SiriusXM. I've been listening to some. I like
39:42
Speaker 1: Boomer and Geo coming in. Those New York fans get
39:44
Speaker 1: pissed about stuff. Whatever was on in the afternoon. Greg Harden!
39:48
Speaker 1: They were debating. that the Giants apparently front office really
39:53
Speaker 1: liked J.J. McCarthy during the draft process. Do I have
39:57
Speaker 1: good news for you? Yeah.
40:00
Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell would serve him up right now.
40:02
Speaker 1: You could get him for a steal right now. But
40:04
Speaker 1: the guys that they really wanted to go get was
40:07
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, who's still a free agent. So he's sitting
40:10
Speaker 1: out there. So you get him for nothing.
40:12
Speaker 3: No, and that's what I would do. I'd give him
40:13
Speaker 3: a veteran's minimum, and I would go out. You don't
40:16
Speaker 3: know what kind of shape he's in.
40:17
Speaker 2: But you know the other night, I thought for sure
40:20
Speaker 2: the NFL made you have a third emergency quarterback.
40:23
Speaker 1: I thought that was the rule.
40:24
Speaker 2: They didn't have one. It doesn't count against your active.
40:27
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but I don't know if you
40:28
Speaker 2: guys heard them on the broadcast. They were like, Jameis
40:31
Speaker 2: is the only quarterback they've got left.
40:32
Speaker 1: I thought you had to have it, but it doesn't
40:34
Speaker 1: count against your actives. But they can only go in
40:37
Speaker 1: if both players are ruled out.
40:39
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but they did not have a third.
40:41
Speaker 2: They're not even showing a third up on their depth
40:43
Speaker 2: chart right now.
40:44
Speaker 1: It's Will Levis now. They've got Will Levis now.
40:46
Speaker 2: Because I was asked. Oh, sorry.
40:50
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. KS Redmill says Levis got signed by the Jets,
40:52
Speaker 1: not the Giants.
40:52
Speaker 2: Is that right?
40:54
Speaker 1: I thought we had him with the Giants.
40:55
Speaker 2: I don't know. But, I mean, they're only listing Jameis'
40:57
Speaker 2: starter and Jackson Darter's your second, but obviously out.
41:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it said Jets yesterday. Yeah, it is Jets. Okay,
41:03
Speaker 1: I always had him at the Giants.
41:04
Speaker 3: Maddie said, what would happen if he goes down? And
41:06
Speaker 3: I said, I've only seen it twice. Unfortunately, I was
41:09
Speaker 3: on the wrong side of it on a Monday night
41:11
Speaker 3: in the fall of 1990 when Brian Mitchell had to
41:14
Speaker 3: come in for, I remember, who was the Alabama quarterback
41:17
Speaker 3: that got the start?
41:18
Speaker 2: Rutledge? for the Washington Redskins, but they knocked out both
41:22
Speaker 2: their quarterbacks, the Eagles did, and Brian Mitchell was taking snaps.
41:25
Speaker 2: The running back Brian Mitchell. The second half body bag game.
41:30
Speaker 1: Body bag game. When we come back, back to college
41:32
Speaker 1: football and what is expected down in the swamp, Ole
41:37
Speaker 1: Miss and Florida. Later on in the show, Alabama and Auburn,
41:41
Speaker 1: big games this weekend as well as we get to
41:43
Speaker 1: the monumental weekend of the SEC. This is the next
41:47
Speaker 1: round presented by Hard Rock Bet right here on Sporting State.
41:50
Speaker 1: Our buddy Montel just sent us something. Remember Montel? I
41:53
Speaker 1: do remember Montel. Yeah, he just sent us and Brooks,
41:58
Speaker 1: I'd love for you to check this out, but it's
42:01
Speaker 1: a graphic on Instagram that somebody put together that says
42:05
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning's first 93 games and Jalen Hurd's first 93 games.
42:10
Speaker 1: Manning's got him by about 3,000 passing yards, but Peyton
42:14
Speaker 1: Manning's quarterback rating was at 87.5. Jalen's is a 94.4,
42:18
Speaker 1: according to this graphic. Peyton had 170 touchdowns. Jalen's got 173.
42:25
Speaker 1: I guess counting his rushing there. Peyton had 109 interceptions.
42:29
Speaker 1: Jalen's only got 45 interceptions.
42:31
Speaker 8: Wow.
42:31
Speaker 1: Peyton, through those first few touchdowns, years, zero Super Bowl appearances,
42:36
Speaker 1: and Jalen's already got two with one win. Yeah, this
42:38
Speaker 1: is where I go eye test. Yeah, I think I'll
42:41
Speaker 1: take Peyton still.
42:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, we take Peyton a hundred times over.
42:44
Speaker 1: To be entirely fair, Peyton took over a terrible situation
42:48
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. And how many more rushing yards does Jalen have? Oh,
42:51
Speaker 1: he's got a ton. He's got a ton. Infinity more
42:53
Speaker 1: than Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning was towing a piano. Yeah. See,
42:56
Speaker 1: this is the problem. When you're the first family of football,
42:59
Speaker 1: people line up to take shots. You do. I mean,
43:01
Speaker 1: they were taking shots at Arch and Archie and now Peyton.
43:04
Speaker 2: Nobody takes shots at those guys.
43:06
Speaker 1: 28 picks.
43:08
Speaker 3: Eli, one of the most overrated quarterbacks in NFL history. Arch,
43:12
Speaker 3: the most overrated quarterback in college football right now.
43:16
Speaker 1: People taking shots by saying nobody ever takes shots at
43:18
Speaker 1: those guys.
43:18
Speaker 8: That's right.
43:19
Speaker 1: That's a shot in and of itself. Before I tell
43:21
Speaker 1: you about Crockett Coffey, hats off to the Florida State
43:24
Speaker 1: punter that was in town this past week playing at Alabama.
43:27
Speaker 1: Daniel Hughes is his name. He's an older guy. from Australia,
43:32
Speaker 1: as most punters seem to be. And he had a
43:35
Speaker 1: unique look. And he posted this. He took some of
43:41
Speaker 1: the shots that college football fans were giving him in
43:46
Speaker 1: the second most watched game this weekend on social media.
43:49
Speaker 1: And apparently he's got a big following on social media.
43:52
Speaker 1: And he had this post to say.
43:55
Speaker 2: So college football is wild at the best of times.
43:57
Speaker 2: I get called Joe Dirt, Joe Exotic.
44:02
Speaker 6: It's pretty funny, but this one has.
44:05
Speaker 1: Taken the cake.
44:06
Speaker 2: I kind of be mad at this.
44:09
Speaker 1: It says this Florida state punter looks like a lesbian
44:12
Speaker 1: that breeds poodles.
44:14
Speaker 2: That's incredible.
44:15
Speaker 1: Wait for it. Wait for it. So he goes on
44:18
Speaker 1: his social media now and he jumps on top of
44:23
Speaker 1: a green Subaru hatchback.
44:26
Speaker 7: Amazing.
44:26
Speaker 1: And he says, Maybe the rumors are true, Subaru USA.
44:31
Speaker 1: Send me that NIL money. That's very well done. He's
44:34
Speaker 1: got a couple of poodles with him laying in the
44:36
Speaker 1: hood of a Subaru hatchback.
44:38
Speaker 2: I think, unfortunately, Subaru is not going to want to
44:41
Speaker 2: engage in this necessarily. I was watching him warm up
44:46
Speaker 2: against SMU on that Monday night game. or Sunday night game,
44:49
Speaker 2: whatever it was, and I forgot if it was on
44:51
Speaker 2: ESPN or ABC.
44:52
Speaker 1: You had the big delay, so you got to see
44:54
Speaker 1: a lot of them, right? Oh, yeah, that's right. He
44:55
Speaker 1: was walking around a lot.
44:56
Speaker 2: But they wouldn't show him.
44:57
Speaker 3: It was really like I was trying to see him again.
45:01
Speaker 3: It was like ABC or ESPN made a point once
45:04
Speaker 3: they got in game, they didn't really show him.
45:06
Speaker 1: Not in game, but in that night, and now that
45:08
Speaker 1: Lance mentions it, he was going along the side shaking hands,
45:12
Speaker 1: taking photos, signing autographs, tossing football during the delay.
45:15
Speaker 8: Yep.
45:17
Speaker 1: And keep in mind, that was week one, so I'd
45:19
Speaker 1: not seen the guy yet. I didn't know he was
45:20
Speaker 1: the player. I didn't either. I was like, is this
45:23
Speaker 1: some gimmick? I was like, don't tell me this is
45:26
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45:30
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45:33
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45:37
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46:41
Speaker 1: Ole Miss is all the way up to number four
46:43
Speaker 1: in the country. Florida is back ranked. John Summerall loves
46:49
Speaker 1: to work the cut. He talks this week about what
46:52
Speaker 1: Florida has to do to knock off number four Ole Miss.
46:56
Speaker 6: If we play like we did last week or the
46:59
Speaker 6: previous week, really any of the weeks we've played so
47:01
Speaker 6: far this year, we will not win Saturday.
47:04
Speaker 2: No chance.
47:05
Speaker 6: And so I talked to him about, you know, the
47:08
Speaker 6: type of teams that win are tough, they're urgent, they're disciplined,
47:11
Speaker 6: they're detailed. The type of teams that don't, they're complacent,
47:16
Speaker 6: they're soft, they lack urgency. And so for us, I
47:23
Speaker 6: told him, I'm like, guys, we're zero and zero this week.
47:27
Speaker 6: In this game, you have every Saturday to be promoted
47:30
Speaker 6: or exposed. And if you like, I'm great with everybody
47:35
Speaker 6: feeling good yesterday till about dinner. And then at dinner yesterday,
47:37
Speaker 6: if anybody walked around the building feeling good about what
47:40
Speaker 6: happened last week, like I'm not like, it's going to
47:44
Speaker 6: be bad for them because like it's, it's over.
47:47
Speaker 2: It's gone forever. Not worried about it. It's gone. Never.
47:51
Speaker 6: I'm not thinking about that game ever again. I'm thinking
47:54
Speaker 6: about this one this week and moving on and, We
47:57
Speaker 6: have a huge task. If we are not fully moved
48:00
Speaker 6: on to getting ready for Ole Miss, this is going
48:03
Speaker 6: to be ugly for us on Saturday.
48:05
Speaker 1: Now, Lance, I understand the gambling side of this, but
48:08
Speaker 1: nobody has a better resume than Ole Miss so far.
48:11
Speaker 1: I mean, Florida, all due respect to Auburn, on the
48:14
Speaker 1: road to Jordan-Hare Stadium, hasn't been tested like this Ole
48:18
Speaker 1: Miss team has. So the gambling folks aside that has
48:22
Speaker 1: Florida minus three and a half and it's been Florida
48:24
Speaker 1: favored all along, and I know they know more than
48:26
Speaker 1: I do, Make that make sense to me because you
48:29
Speaker 1: can't deny that the best resume in the country right
48:33
Speaker 1: now is the Ole Miss Rebels.
48:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can't deny this Florida offense right now,
48:36
Speaker 3: the way it's playing. 162 points through three games. I
48:41
Speaker 3: think it's their most since 2007 with Tim Tebow.
48:43
Speaker 1: Brown and I yesterday did our top four in the
48:45
Speaker 1: Heisman right now, and we both had Baugh in there,
48:48
Speaker 1: and I think we surprised each other that the other
48:50
Speaker 1: one had Baugh in there. I thought I was going
48:52
Speaker 1: to sneak one in past him, and he had him too.
48:56
Speaker 1: Is that the difference? The ability to run the football,
48:59
Speaker 1: just hand.
49:00
Speaker 2: It to Baugh? Because they've got so much balance.
49:02
Speaker 3: When you look at Vernell Brown and you look at
49:03
Speaker 3: Dallas Wilson, and then the ability for Filo just to
49:06
Speaker 3: hand it to Baugh. And right now the second most
49:08
Speaker 3: rushing yards in the FBS is Jaden Baugh. I mean,
49:12
Speaker 3: this offense is playing at another level. Now this is
49:14
Speaker 3: going to be a bigger test. But I think Vegas
49:16
Speaker 3: also factors in where Ole Miss is emotionally coming into
49:19
Speaker 3: this game.
49:20
Speaker 2: It is a big road game. Ole Miss has already
49:22
Speaker 2: beaten two ranks. I get that. But I would have
49:25
Speaker 2: put Florida one and a half numbers a little more
49:27
Speaker 2: inflated than I thought it would be. Back to what
49:31
Speaker 2: Summerall's saying, I don't think they're not going to be prepared.
49:33
Speaker 3: I think he's got the message set. You guys have
49:36
Speaker 3: got to put this in the rear view, what we
49:37
Speaker 3: did Saturday night. We've got to play much better. 16
49:42
Speaker 3: penalties against Auburn. If you would have told me they've
49:45
Speaker 3: got 16 penalties, night game at Jordan-Hare, they have no
49:48
Speaker 3: chance of winning the game. and they still, I know
49:50
Speaker 3: it was a one-possession game at the end, it never
49:52
Speaker 3: felt like that.
49:53
Speaker 1: And penalties that took points off the board, and sure,
49:56
Speaker 1: they were able to score again after that, but you
49:58
Speaker 1: don't always get that opportunity. Penalties that cost you touchdowns. Now, look,
50:02
Speaker 1: sometimes you say, well, the holding penalty cost them a touchdown. Well,
50:04
Speaker 1: they're not scoring the touchdown without the hold. I get
50:06
Speaker 1: those things, right? But penalties that cost you points, I mean,
50:10
Speaker 1: you just, you don't get that second bite at the apple.
50:12
Speaker 1: As good as Florida's offense under the great Buster Faulkner,
50:15
Speaker 1: inventor of offense in America, has been... Their defense has
50:20
Speaker 1: not been good. And now Ole Miss is statistically, their
50:23
Speaker 1: defense is worse. But again, to your point, Ole Miss'
50:26
Speaker 1: defense is worse against Louisville and LSU. Florida's defense has
50:30
Speaker 1: not been good against Florida Atlantic. Florida Atlantic worked them
50:32
Speaker 1: a little bit on that first Saturday night of the.
50:34
Speaker 3: College football season. Well, and they gave up 373 Saturday night.
50:37
Speaker 3: But I think they would take that right now. If
50:38
Speaker 3: you were like, Ole Miss is going to have 373
50:40
Speaker 3: total yards. We'll take it.
50:42
Speaker 2: We'll see what our offense can do and if they
50:44
Speaker 2: can outscore.
50:45
Speaker 3: Now, I would ask you guys, Florida right now at
50:47
Speaker 3: number 21, where do they go if they win this game?
50:50
Speaker 2: Because I think then it's a massive jump.
50:52
Speaker 1: It's a skyrocket.
50:53
Speaker 3: You pass the first test going to Jordan here and
50:55
Speaker 3: beating a solid but somewhat average Auburn team. But then
51:00
Speaker 3: if you've got... You know, number four coming in and
51:02
Speaker 3: you beat them. Well, there's going to be some losses
51:04
Speaker 3: in front of them.
51:05
Speaker 2: A lot of losses.
51:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they will have some upper mobility for sure.
51:08
Speaker 2: I mean, Michigan and Iowa are right in front of them.
51:10
Speaker 2: One of those will go back. USC and Oregon. I mean,
51:13
Speaker 2: Oregon will completely fall out.
51:15
Speaker 1: You would have Ole Miss coming back at you. Tennessee
51:17
Speaker 1: and Texas, one of those are going to get a
51:19
Speaker 1: loss this weekend. LSU could lose to A & M.
51:22
Speaker 2: I mean, I think Missouri probably loses. It's not a.
51:25
Speaker 1: Gimme game for Alabama with South Carolina coming to town.
51:28
Speaker 1: It is not. That has been proven over the last
51:30
Speaker 1: two seasons. Yeah, so it's one of those shake-up win-mats.
51:34
Speaker 2: I mean, could they knock on the top 10 if
51:36
Speaker 2: they win this game?
51:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. Just when you said that, I pictured them
51:39
Speaker 1: going into that 13-14 slot. But, I mean, this is
51:43
Speaker 1: one of the biggest stories in college football in the
51:45
Speaker 1: first month. If they win this game and they are
51:48
Speaker 1: exiting September 4-0— I mean, I think a lot of
51:51
Speaker 1: people thought Summerall would do a nice job there, but
51:53
Speaker 1: I don't think they thought he'd be 4-0.
51:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Florida fans are going to think they've
51:57
Speaker 2: recapped Urban Meyer and Steve Spurrier.
51:59
Speaker 1: We've got our modern-day Spurrier, and we've got another Urban Meyer. Actually,
52:02
Speaker 1: it's the perfect blend of the two. He's got the discipline,
52:06
Speaker 1: the regiment of Urban Meyer.
52:10
Speaker 2: That's right.
52:10
Speaker 1: And the mouth and the personality of Steve Spurrier. It
52:15
Speaker 1: could be that they've gotten to the lab and they,
52:17
Speaker 1: They took Urban Meyer's this and Steve Spurrier's that and
52:20
Speaker 1: came up with John Summerall. If you had gone back
52:22
Speaker 1: to the Meyer days at Florida and said, you know,
52:24
Speaker 1: after he coaches, he's going to be on the desk
52:26
Speaker 1: of one of the major college football shows, I'd be like,
52:27
Speaker 1: you've got to be kidding me. That guy? That guy's
52:30
Speaker 1: got zero personality.
52:31
Speaker 3: I think they are going to win Saturday, and I
52:33
Speaker 3: think at that point we've really got to start considering
52:36
Speaker 3: them a threat to be one of the at-larges.
52:38
Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely. They become a playoff contender. In our preseason
52:42
Speaker 1: when we put up the schedule all the time, We
52:44
Speaker 1: talked about that Auburn game being sort of a defining moment.
52:47
Speaker 6: Yep.
52:48
Speaker 1: And then we all, I think, probably pictured them in
52:50
Speaker 1: for a loss afterwards. It looks different now. It does
52:54
Speaker 1: look different now. It feels different now. I think we
52:56
Speaker 1: all said, ah, this team could be 3-1 coming out
52:58
Speaker 1: of September. But here's the truth, and this is the
53:00
Speaker 1: SEC this year. We're going to do this with every team.
53:03
Speaker 1: Now two of your next three are at Missouri and
53:05
Speaker 1: at Texas. So even if you win this one Saturday
53:08
Speaker 1: and you jump up to 13, 14, you're in the
53:11
Speaker 1: top 10 wherever you are, at Missouri is an extremely
53:15
Speaker 1: difficult road trip for you. At Texas is an extremely difficult.
53:17
Speaker 1: And you've got South Carolina sandwiched every week. That's the league.
53:19
Speaker 1: But if they win on Saturday, Lance, that looks like
53:22
Speaker 1: they're 10-2 at worst.
53:23
Speaker 2: It does.
53:24
Speaker 1: Doesn't it? That's at worst.
53:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that would be an incredible year one, obviously.
53:28
Speaker 1: I don't know, Jim. I mean, you've still got road
53:31
Speaker 1: trips at Missouri.
53:32
Speaker 3: I know you guys think Oklahoma's just an absolute cakewalk.
53:35
Speaker 1: But I'm not going to hand it to Florida. You've
53:37
Speaker 1: got Georgia at Mercedes-Benz Stadium. That'll be a Georgia home game.
53:41
Speaker 1: I mean, they do own Kentucky. They do, but this
53:44
Speaker 1: is a little different Kentucky. We'll learn a little bit
53:47
Speaker 1: about Vandy this week. And he'll be just as fired
53:48
Speaker 1: up for that Kentucky game as he was for that
53:50
Speaker 1: Auburn game because that's his school. That's right, yeah. So
53:53
Speaker 1: it's interesting. Florida's interesting this week. All right, when we
53:56
Speaker 1: come back, the Jets of college football when it comes
53:59
Speaker 1: to the quarterback room. And who's got the better quarterback,
54:02
Speaker 1: modern-day state of Mississippi or yesteryear state of Mississippi? Next
54:06
Speaker 1: on Sporting State.