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UK Column News Podcast 16th December 2024 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Today is Monday, the sixteenth of December twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty four, just after one o'clock. Welcome to the UK
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Speaker 1: Column News. I'm your host, Brian Gerrish, delighted to have
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Speaker 1: Ben Rubin with me in the studio and we'll be
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Speaker 1: joined by Diane Rasmus and mcaddie via the link from Scotland. Well,
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Speaker 1: I just want to say everybody, I hope you had
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Speaker 1: a great weekend. Very busy for us here in the
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Speaker 1: UK Column. I can't believe it's already the sixteenth December
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Speaker 1: and we're heading down to what it's going to be
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Speaker 1: our final Friday before we have a Christmas break. So
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Speaker 1: just to remind viewers of that, well, we're going to
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Speaker 1: get started off with the dark Heart of Camden. It's
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Speaker 1: very interesting because many, many years ago, Camden and Islington
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Speaker 1: and those inner London districts were heavily tied up with
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Speaker 1: Tony Blair's new labor agenda, and here we are with
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Speaker 1: them cropping up again. Ben, what have you got?
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Speaker 2: Yes, there's something going on in North London and Camden
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Speaker 2: in particular appears to be a test bed for the
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Speaker 2: radical innovation agenda that's being rolled out across the country.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to draw your attention back to the announcement
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Speaker 2: last week by Pat McFadden, the Chancellor of the Duchy
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Speaker 2: of Lancaster, who is, after the Prime Minister, the most
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Speaker 2: senior member of the Cabinet office. Right, so this is
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Speaker 2: an extraordinarily powerful individual in central government and what he announced,
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Speaker 2: as Charles and Mike both spoke about last week, is
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Speaker 2: the introduction of what they call a test and learn
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Speaker 2: mindset into central government, where we can make the state
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Speaker 2: a little bit more like a startup. It sounds very innocent,
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Speaker 2: in innocuous, doesn't it Just a little bit more like
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Speaker 2: a startup. But that is the disruptive innovation approach that
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Speaker 2: has been deployed by big tech companies and small disruptive
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Speaker 2: technology companies over the past fifteen to twenty years.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 4: This has completely reshaped the economic.
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Speaker 2: System and they are going to try and introduce it
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Speaker 2: into government to completely reshape and transform the state. Now, importantly,
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Speaker 2: I've got to say that this isn't actually new. This
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Speaker 2: is what Dominic Cummings was proposing that we do by
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Speaker 2: introducing all of these crazy type of individuals into central
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Speaker 2: Government's exactly the same approach and also this is what
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Speaker 2: I used to do professionally, right, So we've spent ten years,
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Speaker 2: fifteen years going through the full stack of the economic system,
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Speaker 2: working with big companies to radically reshape and transform their
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Speaker 2: operations using a test and learned methodology. And I think
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Speaker 2: what's really important to point out is that first of
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Speaker 2: the state in its current configuration cannot adopt this approach.
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Speaker 2: It's fundamentally not set up to do it. It's not
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Speaker 2: agile enough, it's not smart enough for cartmouth quickly enough.
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Speaker 2: And what that means is that they're going to completely
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Speaker 2: recreate government and you will have these small digitally enabled,
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Speaker 2: hyper intelligent, hyper informed cells pushed out from the center
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Speaker 2: across the whole of the country in order to build
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Speaker 2: new systems and to replace those that already exist. Now,
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Speaker 2: I'm going to draw your attention to this individual here,
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Speaker 2: guy called Nick Kimber. This is where we get to Camden.
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Speaker 2: His background, since up until November this year, he was
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Speaker 2: a policy fellow at UCL. UCL we're very familiar with
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Speaker 2: where Jeff Mulgan's currently based, amongst many others, this is
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Speaker 2: a kind of hotbed of this progressive policy agenda. He
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Speaker 2: was also up until November the policy associate at the
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Speaker 2: Future Governance Forum, which we will talk.
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Speaker 4: About at a later date.
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Speaker 2: That is absolutely at the center of where these new
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Speaker 2: progressive policies are being developed and coordinated from. And then
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Speaker 2: crucially he spent over five years and actually he's still
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Speaker 2: employed by the London Borough of Camden where he was
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Speaker 2: head of Inclusive Economy and then subsequently the director of
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Speaker 2: Strategy and Design, and he's now been seconded from there
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Speaker 2: for the past two months, four days a week into
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Speaker 2: the Cabinet Office.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So this is someone from a very senior transformation role
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Speaker 2: in Camden Council who's been seconded into the Cabinet Office
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Speaker 2: in order to deliver this change agenda that Pat McFadden
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Speaker 2: announced last week, or he didn't just announce it. It's
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Speaker 2: a continuation of what starma Atal have been put in
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Speaker 2: place to deliver. Now I'm going to endow your attention
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Speaker 2: to this statement that Nick Kimber put out on his
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Speaker 2: LinkedIn page. This gives us a bit more insight into
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Speaker 2: what the Labor government opposing to do. So I won't
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Speaker 2: read out the whole thing, but I just want to
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Speaker 2: point out that it was held at UCL East. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: so actually this guy used to work at UCL. UCL
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Speaker 2: hosted the announcement. Mcfannin announced the initial wave of test
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Speaker 2: and learned pioneers, focusing on family support and temporary accommodation.
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Speaker 2: Really importantly, you know to me that screams of frankly
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Speaker 2: stealing children and also housing immigrants. Right, that's what a
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Speaker 2: lot of that is going to be about those two
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Speaker 2: service lines. And then just continuing on his statement, the
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Speaker 2: fund will help us model new ways of working between
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Speaker 2: central government and place. It's this horrific word that they
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Speaker 2: use that means new ways of working between central government
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Speaker 2: and local authorities. Right, So this is going to transform
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Speaker 2: that relationship and how it actually works in the real world.
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Speaker 2: And they're going to show how we might better integrate
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Speaker 2: operational voice that means frontline colleagues and design methods into policy,
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Speaker 2: and so how are we going to more effectively coordinate
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Speaker 2: what people are doing on the front in the center
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Speaker 2: whilst harnessing the experimental capacity of local government. They're going
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Speaker 2: to act locally, but the learning will be national and
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Speaker 2: that'll be centered around the Cabinet office.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 2: This is some insight into how this thing is actually
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Speaker 2: going to play out on the ground. Now, why is
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Speaker 2: that important? Well, they're reshaping the whole of government. That's
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Speaker 2: why it's important to bring it back to Camden. Who
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Speaker 2: else is in the Cabinet office? I think I've spoken
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Speaker 2: about Georgia Gold every week for the past month or so.
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Speaker 2: Now Georgia Gould is in the Cabinet office. And actually
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Speaker 2: she was the mayor of Camden and our friend Nick
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Speaker 2: Kimber would have worked for her directly because she was
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Speaker 2: voted in as mayor in twenty seventeen. Georgia Gould is
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Speaker 2: also very close to a political foundation and Democracy Next
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Speaker 2: and actually Democracy Next. We're working in collaboration with Camden
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Speaker 2: Council to test out a bunch of their new approaches
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Speaker 2: to things like saw Tissian and Sistersens' assemblies over the
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Speaker 2: past few years. And Claudia challis there on the right
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Speaker 2: hand side. Have spoken about that at length. What else
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Speaker 2: is in Camden? Just a rappartment. We could literally sit
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Speaker 2: here all at the time noon talking about this and
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Speaker 2: I'll come back to it in future shows. But what
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Speaker 2: else is in Camden?
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Speaker 4: Well?
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Speaker 2: There, it is geographically located in central North London. It's
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Speaker 2: also where you can find Kiss Starmer's constituency. He's the
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Speaker 2: MP for Hoburn and Saint Pancras, so very closely linked
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Speaker 2: into this little group that are working to transform the country.
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Speaker 2: And also, interestingly in the completely unrelated news, it's where
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Speaker 2: christ Church School is located, which is where the satanic
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Speaker 2: abuse case took place that has been badly misrepresented and
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Speaker 2: misreported by Tortoise Media, amongst others that we spoke about
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Speaker 2: on the show last week.
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Speaker 4: And all of that.
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Speaker 2: Happened while Georgia Gold was a counselor at Camden Council. Right,
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Speaker 2: these are the people that are working currently to reshape
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Speaker 2: the country.
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Speaker 1: And a lot more about this and we'll discuss some
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Speaker 1: of it in extra after today's news. Right, I'm going
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Speaker 1: to come straight in with a prompt that I had
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Speaker 1: from UK column viewer sent me an email saying pay
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Speaker 1: attention to this one. So Windsor and maiden Head residents
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Speaker 1: could be hit by a twenty five percent council tax rise.
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Speaker 1: I think that comes up on screen here we are
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Speaker 1: Simon Werder. Sorry. Werner said he and his colleagues inherited
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Speaker 1: a horror show and extra money was needed to stave
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Speaker 1: off effective bankruptcy. Well, the important thing here is that
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Speaker 1: When you get into the BBC report on this, it's
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Speaker 1: just fascinating. Here's the big headline, Everything's collapsing, but they
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Speaker 1: want more money. And if we just pull up a
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Speaker 1: little bit of the text, it says that the authority
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Speaker 1: had take walls. The authority has taken difficult decisions over
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Speaker 1: the last eighteen months. It need to continue to make
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Speaker 1: tough calls and residents currently pay about seventeen hundred a
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Speaker 1: year in council tax or a debound property, but in
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Speaker 1: Newbury it's two three hundred and sorry, let's there we are.
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Speaker 1: So the key bit here everything's collapsing, but they want
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Speaker 1: more money. That's a very emotive headline and it makes
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Speaker 1: you think that, yes, is those nasty counselors who are
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Speaker 1: just demanding more money. Everything's collapsing. We're not sure why.
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Speaker 1: Fascinating It took four journalists to cover this story. Four
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Speaker 1: Was it a local news story or was this BBC spin.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to say I think it was BBC spin.
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Speaker 1: And one of the key things they did is big
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Speaker 1: up the concerns of ordinary people. Now, we should be
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Speaker 1: paying attention to what the man on the street says.
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Speaker 1: But the point I'm making is the people on the
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Speaker 1: street have no idea what's really happening around them. So
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Speaker 1: here was mister David Shefford and he said, counsel tax
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Speaker 1: keeps going up all the time, and your wages and
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Speaker 1: your pension don't go up. It's a disgrace. I used
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Speaker 1: to clean the streets in windsor go down to the
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Speaker 1: river Tempts and have a look at the state of
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Speaker 1: the place down there. It's filthy, it's a disgrace, and
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Speaker 1: that's what we're paying for. So I can understand the
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Speaker 1: sentiment from this man completely. But basically the BBC here
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Speaker 1: is playing games with the public because we've got this
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Speaker 1: key headline. Then everything's collapsing and they want more money.
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Speaker 1: And the BBC's inference in the first place is that
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Speaker 1: the previous Conservative leaders' decisions to cut and freeze council
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Speaker 1: tax were responsible for this terrible collapse and the increase.
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Speaker 1: But actually, when you get into the article, something else
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Speaker 1: comes through. So let's put a bit of this up.
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Speaker 1: District councils could be abolished and more elected mayors introduced
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Speaker 1: across England under new plans for a major redesign of
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Speaker 1: local government and later. It even talks about the date
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Speaker 1: of twenty thirty ministers are set to publish a paper.
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Speaker 1: So this is all about devolution, it's all about sortition,
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Speaker 1: it's all about absolutely changing the way that our government
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Speaker 1: system works in this country at high level and local level.
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Speaker 1: And before they can do this political manipulation, they need
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Speaker 1: to destroy what is in place at present. So this
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Speaker 1: is nothing about a bit of incompetence from local councils.
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Speaker 1: What we're actually looking at is a massive plan to
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Speaker 1: destabilize the country in order to bring in the New Agenda.
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Speaker 1: And it's been quite incredible today and in fact over
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Speaker 1: a number of days that when Ben has gone looking
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Speaker 1: in one area to do with these policies, Mike and
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Speaker 1: I are seeing it in other areas. So if you
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Speaker 1: think all of the warfare is just happening in Ukraine
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Speaker 1: and Syria, no, we are being attacked in our own country,
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Speaker 1: buy our own government.
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Speaker 2: And this is where the test and learn teams will
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Speaker 2: come steaming in. So hey, look we've got a whole new.
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Speaker 1: Thing, correct, We're going to solve all the problems. All
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Speaker 1: you need to do is move across to the new Agenda.
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Speaker 1: So if we put this back up on screen councils
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Speaker 1: to be merged in a major local government shake up.
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Speaker 1: So this is another headline here and here we are
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Speaker 1: where these metro mayors are set to gain new powers
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Speaker 1: over planning in a bid to speed up the delivery
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Speaker 1: of new housing and infrastructure. Why do we need the
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Speaker 1: new housing and infrastructure because, of course immigration is still
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Speaker 1: out of control. Never mind the rubber boats. Just look
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Speaker 1: at the people who are actually allowed into the country.
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Speaker 1: They've got to be housed. And so what are we
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Speaker 1: going to do. We're going to build more and more
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Speaker 1: houses where we're going to put them over brown field sites.
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Speaker 1: And what does that mean? The houses will be built
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Speaker 1: on the sites where employment opportunities have been decimated and flattened.
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Speaker 1: So pay attention when you see these stories about local
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Speaker 1: councils running into trouble over money, heading towards bankruptcy. This
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Speaker 1: is the deliberate breakdown of the country in order to
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Speaker 1: bring in the new government. It has been called government
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Speaker 1: two point zero in the past, a new system of
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Speaker 1: government which is not going to be about what this
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Speaker 1: country needs. It's going to be a government system device
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Speaker 1: amongst others, by the World Economic Forum and the UN
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Speaker 1: and I'm going to say we did warn you. Where
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Speaker 1: does that take us? I think it's welcome Diane to
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Speaker 1: the program, and Diane, everywhere we look there are strange
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Speaker 1: things going on.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, Brian, I'd like to take the viewers back
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Speaker 5: to twenty seventh of September twenty twenty one when this
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Speaker 5: company that we're going to do report on now was
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Speaker 5: first mentioned, and this company is called Teleperformance, when Mike
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Speaker 5: uncovered that a Guardian article saying that a facial recognition
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Speaker 5: data in the NHS app and remember our scrap the
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Speaker 5: app campaign was being analyzed and being shared by a
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Speaker 5: company called Teleperformance, which isn't British and they're based in France.
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Speaker 5: And so because of the story I'm about to tell you,
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Speaker 5: I've looked in Teleperformance quite in detail, and I think
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Speaker 5: everyone needs to be aware of what they're doing. And
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Speaker 5: I have a feeling that my reporting will continue on
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Speaker 5: this company because there's so much to report. On this
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Speaker 5: slide here we have a picture of I have a
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Speaker 5: residence permit that I have as some of the permanent
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Speaker 5: status in the UK, and what this shows is basically
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Speaker 5: my right to be in the UK, which is almost
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Speaker 5: like a driving license, kind of record and even though
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Speaker 5: it has no time limit on it, the residence permit
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Speaker 5: says to thirty first of December twenty twenty four is
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Speaker 5: the expiration date. And the reason that I was given
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Speaker 5: for that when I got this particular piece of paper
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Speaker 5: in the mail was that they were moving us to
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Speaker 5: digital ID to prove our status to be in the
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Speaker 5: UK in twenty twenty four. So we had to now
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Speaker 5: have to sign up for what's called an EVSA to
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Speaker 5: maintain our proof of identity to be in this country.
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Speaker 5: And I have just a short clip here from the
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Speaker 5: Home Office showing what we have to do and what
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Speaker 5: privacy we have to give up to apply for our EVSIN.
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Speaker 6: Step two confirm your identity by using the UK Immigration
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Speaker 6: ID Check app and following the instructions. If you are
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Speaker 6: using a computer, laptop or tablet, you will need to
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Speaker 6: download the app on a smartphone and use the smartphone's
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Speaker 6: camera to scan a QR code, or you can request
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Speaker 6: a connection code to connect to the app instead. The
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Speaker 6: app will ask you to take a picture of your
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Speaker 6: BRP or passport, check your documents information, and take a
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Speaker 6: picture of your face. When taking the picture, take the
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Speaker 6: same care you would when taking a passport photo, this
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Speaker 6: will be used to prove your immigration status.
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Speaker 5: Now, when that video was posted, that was done by
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Speaker 5: a company called Sourpersteria, which was the outsourcing company originally
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Speaker 5: that handled visas immigration, especially for people living within the
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Speaker 5: UK or trying to live in the UK. But what
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Speaker 5: has happened over the past two months was there were
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Speaker 5: a good problems with this app that people were not
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Speaker 5: able to use it.
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Speaker 3: It wasn't working at all.
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Speaker 5: They couldn't get anything to go through, they couldn't get
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Speaker 5: their picture taken correctly, you couldn't float anything. And so
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Speaker 5: to make a very long story short, and you can
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Speaker 5: see all the documentation of all of this in the
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Speaker 5: show notes, was that in October of twenty twenty four,
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Speaker 5: the ukv said Citizenship Application Service announced that Soposteria is
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Speaker 5: no longer the service provider for this. And what also
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Speaker 5: happened in early December, I believe it was announced then
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Speaker 5: that those thirty to December residence permits we're going to
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Speaker 5: be valid for at least a few months longer, at
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Speaker 5: least until March, you know. And I never signed up
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Speaker 5: for one in the first place, despite being made to
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Speaker 5: do so, because I just don't want digital idtap to
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Speaker 5: prove my identity. So we have some a lot of
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Speaker 5: legislation that has gone on around the House of Commons
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Speaker 5: had some written questions and answers about what was happening
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Speaker 5: with this particular situation. What was going on with the
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Speaker 5: ebsis what do we need to do with them? What
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Speaker 5: will they what will they be used for? What would
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Speaker 5: they not be used for? Which just basically everything to
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Speaker 5: prove you have the right to work, to prove that
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Speaker 5: you can buy a house, to prove that you can
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Speaker 5: get in and out of the country when you go
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Speaker 5: abroad and when you come back. So you need it
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Speaker 5: for pretty much everything that you do as someone with
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Speaker 5: a legal but not a citizenship.
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Speaker 3: Status in the UK.
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Speaker 5: And so when this switched over in October fifteenth, twenty
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Speaker 5: twenty four the report started to come out that the
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Speaker 5: new company that would be taking over from Sopostera Sterea
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Speaker 5: is called tel As Contact. Teal is contact Act is
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Speaker 5: fully owned by Teleperformance and what they purchased Tilos Contact
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Speaker 5: in twenty fourteen. And the issue here, of course is
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Speaker 5: that there are so many evil things bringing out this company.
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Speaker 5: And here's what I'm going to get into a little
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Speaker 5: bit of the details. The chairman of the Board of
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Speaker 5: Directors is a man called Malay Hafid al Alami, who,
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Speaker 5: among many other things, has a presence at the World
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Speaker 5: Economic Forum, and he is the Minister of Industry, Trade,
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Speaker 5: Green and Digital Economy for the UNS Industrial Development Organization.
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Speaker 5: We have a video here from the CEO of Teleperformance
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Speaker 5: called Daniel Julian. Let's hear what he had to say.
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Speaker 5: This was a video of an interviewed he did in
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Speaker 5: the thirty first of July.
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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty.
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Speaker 7: During the second half the valley that we got in
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Speaker 7: April and May. And when I say that it's even
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Speaker 7: if there is a second wave of pandemic, because we
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Speaker 7: have convicted our operation into a vast majority of work
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Speaker 7: at home.
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Speaker 4: In fact, we have more.
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Speaker 7: Than seventy percent of our people who are working at
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Speaker 7: home today, two hundred twenty thousand.
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Speaker 8: People, huge numbers of people having to adjust essentially overnight.
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Speaker 8: Looking at the year ahead, I take note of the
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Speaker 8: fact that you said business growth accelerated in June, pointing
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Speaker 8: to a robust prospects for the second half. Does that
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Speaker 8: apply to all of your regions? I know the US
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Speaker 8: is your biggest market.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say June has been absolutely excellent. In fact,
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Speaker 7: it was like a pre COVID shape and it applies
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Speaker 7: to almost all our activities and all the regions except
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Speaker 7: one of our business which is still very very depressed,
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Speaker 7: very flat, which is TLS, which is our subsidiaries that
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Speaker 7: process visa for the governments. US travel bands are still
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Speaker 7: are still here. They are they demand of visa and
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Speaker 7: this is the only business that is low.
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Speaker 5: So there he is mentioned in TLS contact directly and
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Speaker 5: needing to increase that area of their business. Obviously they've
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Speaker 5: done a great deal by doing this in the UK
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Speaker 5: because they've now taken over from Surtasteria. How did they
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Speaker 5: deal this when they when they transformed everyone to working
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Speaker 5: at home all of their call well most of the
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Speaker 5: call centers in the UK. They put in new a
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Speaker 5: structure called TP cloud Campus.
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Speaker 3: Let's see what the what.
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Speaker 5: Telperformances YouTube channel tells us about TP cloud Campus.
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Speaker 9: In compliance with international regulations and security and data privacy,
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Speaker 9: we continuously monitor risks and threats through our unmatched data
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Speaker 9: security and fraud prevention protocol such as highly secure access controls,
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Speaker 9: multi factor authentication, artificial intelligence and machine learning to monitor
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Speaker 9: Clean desk policy and fraud would TP observer BYOD and
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Speaker 9: TPOD device Lockdown Security Operations Center with twenty four to
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Speaker 9: seven risk monitoring proprietary technology that tracks suspicious behaviors global
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Speaker 9: GDPR compliance through approved binding corporate rules. As you can see,
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Speaker 9: it is safe to implement a remote workforce through our
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Speaker 9: teleperformance cloud campus.
21:47
Speaker 5: And what they mean by clean desk policy is that
21:49
Speaker 5: they are actually implementing AI technologies and surveillance cameras into
21:53
Speaker 5: the staff working at home. That even includes watching their children.
21:56
Speaker 5: If they have children under eighteen and they happen to
21:58
Speaker 5: be on the camera, is still get tracked very very
22:02
Speaker 5: discussing behavior. So if you look now at some of
22:05
Speaker 5: the other legislation and so on, I don't have time
22:07
Speaker 5: to go into it, but there again links to the
22:08
Speaker 5: show notes of legal cases that they have been involved
22:11
Speaker 5: in the past few years, a number of very very
22:14
Speaker 5: dirty practices. But let's look at some of the contracts
22:17
Speaker 5: directly from the Contracts Finder website. This is the contract
22:20
Speaker 5: that they have awarded to what is now the service
22:23
Speaker 5: that I'm going to be required to use at some
22:25
Speaker 5: point one hundred and sixty three million pounds and This
22:29
Speaker 5: involves everything around their visa application processes and so on.
22:34
Speaker 5: If we look at the fois for example, you can
22:36
Speaker 5: see as well there's ninety six fois that you can
22:38
Speaker 5: find about teleperformance and a lot of them have to
22:41
Speaker 5: do with a range of bad practices where members of
22:45
Speaker 5: the public have been trying to find out what they've
22:47
Speaker 5: been doing with their data and breaching privacy issues.
22:51
Speaker 4: And so on.
22:51
Speaker 5: Just two more contracts that have been awarded just in
22:54
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four. We have one called Get into Teaching
22:57
Speaker 5: Information Service which is forty doubbles for five million pounds,
23:01
Speaker 5: which allows people to call up and find out how
23:03
Speaker 5: to get teacher training at a call center.
23:06
Speaker 3: Is that really worth the worth that amount of money.
23:08
Speaker 5: Another one that is particularly alarming is the Universal Credit
23:11
Speaker 5: Target Case Review Resource Augmentation Program, which is six hundred
23:15
Speaker 5: and ninety four million pounds where they are going to
23:18
Speaker 5: be looking for cases of fraud within the universal Credit system.
23:21
Speaker 5: So that is also very very scary in terms of
23:25
Speaker 5: what that means for people who are on benefits. And
23:27
Speaker 5: we have finally now just a few days ago they
23:30
Speaker 5: announced a new thing called TP micro Services. I believe
23:34
Speaker 5: we have a video showing what that is supposed to do.
23:39
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24:44
Speaker 5: So after that energizing music, if you're interested in working
24:47
Speaker 5: for Teleperformance, they have their job openings listed. There will
24:50
Speaker 5: one available in Glasgow for example that I've got here
24:53
Speaker 5: that is starting at eleven pounds seventy five per hours,
24:57
Speaker 5: so that as around twenty thousand per year at leave,
25:00
Speaker 5: and when you look at their accounts, you have to
25:02
Speaker 5: wonder where the money is actually going because up to
25:04
Speaker 5: the year end of December twenty three, according to their
25:06
Speaker 5: filing on company's house it only showed a six point
25:09
Speaker 5: three million pound profit after taxes. For a massive company
25:12
Speaker 5: that applies I think employees a run three hundred thousand people,
25:15
Speaker 5: So we have to wonder if that money isn't going
25:17
Speaker 5: to that handsome man who runs the company, Daniel Jillian.
25:21
Speaker 5: That was very sarcastic, by the way, So that's that's
25:24
Speaker 5: that's the start of my reporting and teleperformance.
25:26
Speaker 1: Brian and Ben Jane, thank you very much. Incredible, isn't it.
25:31
Speaker 1: But I was told many years ago that we needed
25:34
Speaker 1: all the digital stuff in order to be safe. If
25:37
Speaker 1: we wrote a check we could you know we were
25:39
Speaker 1: at risk of fraud. And now all the digital stuff
25:42
Speaker 1: has come in, there's more and more risks that we
25:45
Speaker 1: need more and more digital stuff for. So just going
25:48
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25:51
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27:42
Speaker 5: Thanks, This is a really important interview once again meet
27:46
Speaker 5: continuing to expose the inductrination and sexualization of children that
27:50
Speaker 5: is happening in our libraries and other education systems. And
27:53
Speaker 5: I really want everyone to encourage to watch. This man
27:56
Speaker 5: has been doing this work for twenty five years in
27:58
Speaker 5: America and he's got some very ideas on what we
28:00
Speaker 5: should be doing over here to get organized in the
28:03
Speaker 5: UK to.
28:04
Speaker 3: Continue to try to stop this.
28:05
Speaker 5: Agenda as well from reaching our children and putting them
28:09
Speaker 5: through all kinds of disgusting grooming behaviors and materials and
28:13
Speaker 5: so on.
28:13
Speaker 3: So please tune in for that, okay.
28:16
Speaker 1: And you had a productive weekend with a number of people,
28:20
Speaker 1: but also including Sonia Poulton.
28:24
Speaker 3: I did, yes, thank you.
28:25
Speaker 5: We had a Sonya Pulton Christmas on Saturday.
28:28
Speaker 3: A bit of good.
28:29
Speaker 5: News after all of the bad news I've just reported
28:31
Speaker 5: on teleperformance. We had a wonderful weekend really with her
28:36
Speaker 5: through Common Knowledge Edinburgh, which I've now joined as a
28:39
Speaker 5: member of the executive committee. I'm really happy to say
28:42
Speaker 5: she came up here for a talk on basically twenty
28:45
Speaker 5: twenty four review and also looking at the past and
28:49
Speaker 5: giving us a bit of hope for the future. I
28:52
Speaker 5: want to show a few photos that she used which
28:54
Speaker 5: her talk kind of centered around, because if you can
28:57
Speaker 5: see them, they are really quite memorable because these are
29:00
Speaker 5: all people that we know, and just the way that
29:02
Speaker 5: she chose these photos and talked about them was very interesting. First,
29:06
Speaker 5: we have we have Hugh Edwards and the Queen, so
29:10
Speaker 5: she was using these as you know, basically Hugh Edwards
29:13
Speaker 5: being kind of well up until very recently, I guess
29:17
Speaker 5: the media establishment's role model, if you want to call
29:20
Speaker 5: him that. The BBC talking a lot about the policing
29:24
Speaker 5: system and the lack of protection of children, generally speaking
29:28
Speaker 5: and asking why this is being enabled and actually saying, well,
29:32
Speaker 5: the monarchy is in trouble, partially because nobody really cares
29:35
Speaker 5: about the Green King Charles the way they have cared
29:38
Speaker 5: for other monarchs previously.
29:40
Speaker 3: We have Justin Welbey, the.
29:43
Speaker 5: Now former Archbishop of Canterbury at King Charles coronation and
29:48
Speaker 5: asking a question why exactly was he allowed to resign
29:52
Speaker 5: when really he should have had a much worse ending
29:54
Speaker 5: to his time as the Archbishop of Canterbury. We have
29:59
Speaker 5: Sircrest has been reminded before the show he's Sycus Armer,
30:04
Speaker 5: along with the yard former category as well, and again
30:08
Speaker 5: showing these connections once again between all of the horrible
30:12
Speaker 5: abuse that has happened in sort of all the areas
30:15
Speaker 5: of the British establishments that we all hope, I believe
30:19
Speaker 5: will come down I'm hoping sometime soon in the future,
30:22
Speaker 5: and it seems like Sonia really sees them crumbling because
30:25
Speaker 5: there's only a certain amount of time that these can
30:28
Speaker 5: actually continue, because the public is waking up to it
30:31
Speaker 5: and will start to hopefully demand that something else happens
30:34
Speaker 5: a bit differently, well quite differently in the future. We
30:38
Speaker 5: have Epstein and Trump again linking the past to the
30:41
Speaker 5: present and kind of you know, don't forget that Trump
30:45
Speaker 5: and Epstein were close friends at one point, regardless of
30:48
Speaker 5: whatever happened at that island. We have Trump and Musk
30:52
Speaker 5: once again and her belief that Musk is actually a technocrat.
30:56
Speaker 5: His dad was a predator apparently, which I didn't know
30:58
Speaker 5: before Saturday. Idea that Musk wants us to do everything
31:02
Speaker 5: on X and a reminder of Linda Yakarino believe her
31:05
Speaker 5: name is, who is from the WF and she is
31:09
Speaker 5: has sort of the second in command under Musk at
31:12
Speaker 5: this point, which he appointed. We have Diddy and the
31:16
Speaker 5: whole ditty situation around what's going on with the Pitofila
31:20
Speaker 5: that's being exposed through him along with five Davis, who
31:24
Speaker 5: she knows as a former music journalist, is what she
31:26
Speaker 5: called everything wrong with the music industry and how he's
31:30
Speaker 5: abused many men and then helped their careers and helped
31:32
Speaker 5: them launch their labels and so on. And meanwhile these
31:35
Speaker 5: people are being portrayed as the height of respectability and
31:38
Speaker 5: people that we should be looking up to to see
31:40
Speaker 5: what we should be doing. Jay Z Beyonce, she called
31:45
Speaker 5: Beyonce the top of the music illuminati.
31:48
Speaker 3: She mentioned that recently.
31:49
Speaker 5: They brought their twelve year old daughter to a party,
31:51
Speaker 5: which she showed a photo as well which she was
31:53
Speaker 5: very sexualized.
31:54
Speaker 3: Did not look like she was twelve.
31:56
Speaker 5: She looked like she was about twenty five, the way
31:58
Speaker 5: she was dressed and made, and she believes that generally
32:01
Speaker 5: we're too enthralled with these famous people and we allow
32:04
Speaker 5: them to get away with too much as a result,
32:06
Speaker 5: and including adults making careers out of their children. So
32:10
Speaker 5: overall there's me and Sonya. I was really happy to
32:13
Speaker 5: have a photo take with her. I introduced her, which
32:16
Speaker 5: was a huge privilege and honor for me, and I'm
32:18
Speaker 5: afraid I got a bit emotional when I.
32:19
Speaker 3: Was doing so, because she's been so much to me.
32:22
Speaker 5: But she talked about the power of established of the
32:25
Speaker 5: establishments now but that she believes that twenty twenty four
32:28
Speaker 5: has been a year of awakening and that there are
32:31
Speaker 5: more critical thinkers out there in the UK than we believe,
32:33
Speaker 5: although we're told that there aren't as many of us
32:35
Speaker 5: as there are, and how we need to keep working
32:38
Speaker 5: to fight the lies to that they have used for
32:41
Speaker 5: so long to maintain the status quo and to protect
32:44
Speaker 5: the party. It all costs, But she thinks that this
32:46
Speaker 5: year has been a hopeful year and we have to
32:50
Speaker 5: work against these people that were selected from a very
32:52
Speaker 5: very long time ago in the past, but now that
32:55
Speaker 5: the message is coming out with some of these predators
32:57
Speaker 5: and pedophiles that no matter who you are, if she
33:00
Speaker 5: did something wrong, you could be next. You need to
33:02
Speaker 5: start paying attention. And she expects more to come out
33:05
Speaker 5: in the next few weeks. So I'll talk a little
33:08
Speaker 5: bit more on extra time, Brian, but that's kind of
33:10
Speaker 5: the highlights of her talk.
33:11
Speaker 3: So I hope that was helpful for everyone.
33:13
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you very much. Of course, Sonya's done lots
33:16
Speaker 1: of very good work in her time, and much of
33:19
Speaker 1: it on the subject of child abuse and calling out
33:23
Speaker 1: people in the system involved. So absolutely more on that
33:27
Speaker 1: in due course. Now, I just wanted to move on
33:30
Speaker 1: to a little section which is really about mister Lammy.
33:35
Speaker 1: But let's start by reminding people that on the ninth
33:38
Speaker 1: of December we reported about Brooks Newmark MP, and this
33:43
Speaker 1: was on the back of a report that we originally
33:46
Speaker 1: did way back in September twenty thirteen, when we pointed
33:51
Speaker 1: out the Brooks Newmark said publicly that he'd been meeting
33:55
Speaker 1: with General Idris. This was on the Turkish Syrian border.
34:00
Speaker 1: There were connections with people there who were linked to
34:02
Speaker 1: terrorists and our COEDA, and we asked for answers, but
34:06
Speaker 1: we in the first place reported what was actually going on,
34:10
Speaker 1: and we challenged what was going on on what basis
34:13
Speaker 1: was this MP there, Why was he talking with these
34:16
Speaker 1: people when they were connected to terrorists, and what was
34:20
Speaker 1: the agenda? And of course we also pointed out that
34:23
Speaker 1: when I tried to get answers out of my local MP,
34:26
Speaker 1: Gary Streeter, he absolutely did not want to know and
34:31
Speaker 1: closed all the doors. So it was clear to me
34:33
Speaker 1: that Brooks Newmark was being protected in whatever he was
34:37
Speaker 1: doing in those discussions with people connected to terrorists. Let's
34:42
Speaker 1: come up to date because over the weekend we had
34:46
Speaker 1: this headline here from the BBC UK and diplomatic contact
34:51
Speaker 1: with Syrian rebels, says LAMMI no remember the bbcquells them rebels,
34:56
Speaker 1: but actually they were terrorists. Indeed many still are. But
35:00
Speaker 1: this was the single line that caught my attention. The
35:03
Speaker 1: diplomatic contact with HTS does not mean the Foreign Secretary
35:09
Speaker 1: has personally been in touch with the rebel group. And
35:13
Speaker 1: I found that an extraordinary coincidence that the BBC needed
35:17
Speaker 1: to make clear that Lammy had not talken to the
35:20
Speaker 1: talk to these people himself, and was that because we
35:25
Speaker 1: had pointed out that MPs at least in the past
35:28
Speaker 1: were absolutely talking to these sorts of people without any
35:33
Speaker 1: checks or balances. Now, the BBC article went on and
35:39
Speaker 1: the Foreign Secretary was asked whether HTS would be removed
35:42
Speaker 1: from the UK's list of prescribed terror groups. The Foreign
35:45
Speaker 1: Secretary said, the rebel group are not terrorists now, the
35:49
Speaker 1: rebels remain a prescribed organization that came out of al Qaeda. Well,
35:55
Speaker 1: if it came out of al Queda and it must
35:59
Speaker 1: be a terrorist group, then you're laughing. It's difficult, isn't it.
36:02
Speaker 1: It is difficult. Let's just bring in another comment on
36:05
Speaker 1: the bottom of that slide. This is, of course true,
36:09
Speaker 1: both the UK and the US have a vested interest
36:12
Speaker 1: in what happens next in Syria. Why is that because
36:15
Speaker 1: they helped create the events in the first place. So
36:18
Speaker 1: let's remind the audience with another clip of the former
36:22
Speaker 1: head of MI six. Now we showed this on the
36:25
Speaker 1: ninth as well, but I want to bring it in
36:27
Speaker 1: just to let people reflect on what Lammy is saying
36:30
Speaker 1: to the nation and what was actually going on in
36:33
Speaker 1: the background.
36:34
Speaker 11: Originally, we are always optimistic about these things, but sometimes
36:40
Speaker 11: it turns out we've exchanged bad for worse. What's your estimate,
36:45
Speaker 11: I mean, from what we know of HTS, do you
36:48
Speaker 11: believe the sort of transition from being an al Qaeda
36:52
Speaker 11: affiliate into being what some people are calling a genuine
36:56
Speaker 11: liberation movement.
36:58
Speaker 12: Well, I think phillis right to be cautious about this.
37:03
Speaker 12: But when I was chief of mi I six ten
37:05
Speaker 12: twelve years ago, we looked at all these Syrian opposition
37:09
Speaker 12: groups and classified them into those that we could support
37:12
Speaker 12: and those who will be on the pale and too
37:14
Speaker 12: close to al Qayeder and Tararira Sham was definitely in
37:17
Speaker 12: the latter category. But I think Amumhammad al Jolani, the leader,
37:22
Speaker 12: has made great efforts over the last ten years to
37:24
Speaker 12: distance himself from those terrorist groups, and certainly the actions
37:29
Speaker 12: we've seen of Tartaria Ra Sham over the last last
37:33
Speaker 12: two weeks has been those of a liberation movement, not
37:36
Speaker 12: of a terrorist organization.
37:39
Speaker 1: Well, there you have it, one set of rules for
37:41
Speaker 1: anybody in UK, because of anyone in UK perhaps been
37:45
Speaker 1: involved without Kaeder and then calmly said, oh, but not
37:48
Speaker 1: now I've distanced myself. They would be picked up, but
37:51
Speaker 1: not for MI six because they were selecting the terrorists
37:54
Speaker 1: they wanted to work with in order to get regime
37:58
Speaker 1: change in the Middle East. And let's remember that it's
38:01
Speaker 1: taxpayers money that was used, so big thank you to
38:04
Speaker 1: Mike Robinson for his work. Millions of pounds of taxpayers
38:08
Speaker 1: money pumped into overseas projects which included destabilization and regime change,
38:15
Speaker 1: and we absolutely know that we're never going to forget
38:18
Speaker 1: the comment from this woman from BBC Media Action that
38:22
Speaker 1: the BBC's charity were working with individuals within Syria who
38:27
Speaker 1: wanted regime change and tried to get them to be
38:30
Speaker 1: the drivers of that. That's fomenting regime change. And of
38:34
Speaker 1: course money poured into the into BBC Media Action by
38:39
Speaker 1: the Foreign and Commonwealth Office. So I'm just going to
38:42
Speaker 1: end this section by saying the same questions that we
38:45
Speaker 1: asked about Brooks Newmark and were never answered need to
38:49
Speaker 1: be asked again of Britain's present relationships with what are
38:54
Speaker 1: clearly terrorists, but now they are good terrorists called rebels
39:00
Speaker 1: because UK and US interests are being looked after by
39:04
Speaker 1: those terrorists. You could not make this up, Ben, You
39:07
Speaker 1: cannot make it up. Take us into happy as times
39:10
Speaker 1: of disruption, oh I wish?
39:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, So then We're going to look at the way
39:15
Speaker 2: that the economic system and the state are being reshaped
39:18
Speaker 2: by disruptive innovators in the technology ecosystem and in academia,
39:23
Speaker 2: particularly Oxford University and the Enjoy your attention to this
39:26
Speaker 2: announcement here from HM Treasury last week where they talked
39:29
Speaker 2: about innovation being central to achieving our mission to grow
39:33
Speaker 2: the economy and improve living standards across the country. That's
39:37
Speaker 2: why the Chancellor and Peter Kyle met with tech leaders
39:41
Speaker 2: today to discuss how the government is creating the right
39:43
Speaker 2: conditions for innovation to thrive. So we see here Rachel Reeves, Chancellor,
39:48
Speaker 2: Peter Kyle, Secretary of State for Science, Innovation and Technology,
39:52
Speaker 2: alongside Reid Hoffman, who is the founder of LinkedIn, Nicola
39:57
Speaker 2: Mendelssohn CBE who is the the head of global business
40:01
Speaker 2: for Meta formerly known as Facebook, Carolyn Dawson Obe who
40:06
Speaker 2: is the CEO of Founder's Forum Group, which is a
40:09
Speaker 2: crucial forum for this tech ecosystem in the UK and
40:13
Speaker 2: further afield, and also Brent Hoberman, who is her co
40:18
Speaker 2: founder of Founder's Forum Group. I'm going to focus a
40:21
Speaker 2: bit on him and some of the statements that he's
40:23
Speaker 2: been putting out because he is a very influential and
40:26
Speaker 2: well connected gentleman. So a few samples of his roles.
40:30
Speaker 2: He's the exec chairman of Founders Factory I just mentioned.
40:34
Speaker 2: He's the co founder of Lastminute dot Com, which was
40:37
Speaker 2: one of the dot com success stories. He founded that
40:40
Speaker 2: with Martha Lane Fox, who then went on to found
40:44
Speaker 2: Government Digital Service, which has been focused on the digitization
40:48
Speaker 2: of the UK government. And Hoberman himself currently sits on
40:52
Speaker 2: the advisory board of GDS. He's also on the advisory
40:55
Speaker 2: board of Google Cloud. To see how these things kind
40:59
Speaker 2: of merge into each each other. Obviously, no conflict of
41:01
Speaker 2: interest here whatsoever. He's also on the advisory board of
41:04
Speaker 2: the World Economic Forum Digital Europe Council, and he's also
41:09
Speaker 2: a Young Global Leader of the World Economic Forum, as
41:11
Speaker 2: well as having former roles on the board of the
41:13
Speaker 2: Economist Eton College, and on and on and on. An
41:17
Speaker 2: extraordinarily well connected tech investor. He also shared that photo
41:22
Speaker 2: with a more revealing statement next to Hi, which I'm
41:26
Speaker 2: going to look at now actually, because this really tells
41:28
Speaker 2: us a lot more about what's going on under the
41:30
Speaker 2: surface as opposed to what the Treasury put out. So
41:33
Speaker 2: we can see here first of all that this was
41:35
Speaker 2: a brainstorming session. In the first line, this was a
41:38
Speaker 2: stellar group who joined a brain storming sessions. This is
41:41
Speaker 2: a collaborative session between the Chancellor and top Secretary of
41:45
Speaker 2: State for Innovation and Technology and Brent Hoberman and all
41:50
Speaker 2: the other people that we've highlighted there. Now look at
41:53
Speaker 2: just have a little look at some of the topics
41:54
Speaker 2: that they covered. First of all, how to use more
41:57
Speaker 2: AI in government, more procurement from startups and the startup
42:01
Speaker 2: ecosystem is what he's particularly interested in. That's what the
42:04
Speaker 2: Founders group is about, That's what he's invested in. And
42:08
Speaker 2: then also looking at more AI benefits diffused across society,
42:12
Speaker 2: ie not just for city dwellers but also for those
42:16
Speaker 2: in towns to reap the benefits. So this very much
42:19
Speaker 2: in line of the devolution that Brian was talking about earlier,
42:24
Speaker 2: but also the activity that I mentioned with the gentleman
42:29
Speaker 2: from Camden Council, the way that the Cabinet Office is
42:32
Speaker 2: looking to extend its power out of the cities into
42:36
Speaker 2: local areas. What else did they talk about AI adoption
42:39
Speaker 2: within corporates? They talk about WPP as being an exemplar.
42:43
Speaker 2: I used to working in WPP agencies. Mark Reid, who
42:46
Speaker 2: is referenced there, is also a young global leader of
42:49
Speaker 2: the World Economic Forum. What else AI training and skills.
42:53
Speaker 2: So they're going to create a marketplace for you and Blair,
42:55
Speaker 2: Tony Blair's eldest son and his Multiverse company to expand
42:59
Speaker 2: in to government.
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Speaker 4: Right, So this is about.
43:01
Speaker 2: Training and recruitment, recruitment, putting new people into government roles.
43:06
Speaker 4: New and Blair is going to sew that marketplace up.
43:08
Speaker 2: Apparently it's absolutely not and it's completely irrelevant that you
43:16
Speaker 2: and Blair is apparently now worth one hundred million pounds
43:18
Speaker 2: on the back of that this company, Multiverse, that he
43:22
Speaker 2: launched just a few years ago. Right, I mean the
43:25
Speaker 2: growth here and frankly the corruption is absolutely staggering.
43:28
Speaker 4: And what else were they talking about?
43:30
Speaker 2: How to have the best and simplest regulatory environment, i e.
43:34
Speaker 2: We don't want to be regulated, We want to do
43:35
Speaker 2: whatever the hell we want. What else have we got
43:38
Speaker 2: picking up on the spending review and how tech can help?
43:41
Speaker 4: So this was the pattern fad and speech.
43:43
Speaker 2: So how can we attract brilliant people in from the
43:45
Speaker 2: tech industry into government to do a tour of duty
43:48
Speaker 2: in one of those disrupted Innovation tests and learn teams.
43:51
Speaker 2: You can see how these things emerging. And then importantly,
43:54
Speaker 2: this was Reid Hoffman. He was there having just delivered
43:58
Speaker 2: the sert Isaiah Berlin lecture as well as having delivered
44:02
Speaker 2: a lecture at the LSC lone, the School of Economics. Now,
44:06
Speaker 2: so Isaiah Berlin, very interestingly is this gentleman here? And
44:11
Speaker 2: we use this photo quite a bit because that is
44:13
Speaker 2: from Yad Hannahdeve aka the Rothschild Foundation, which funded the
44:20
Speaker 2: design and the build of the Israeli Supreme Court. That's
44:24
Speaker 2: an architectural model of the Israeli Supreme Court in the
44:26
Speaker 2: foreground there. And actually you can see Lord Rothschild, recently deceased,
44:31
Speaker 2: Jacob Rothschild, second from the right in this picture. That's
44:35
Speaker 2: Isaiah Berlin with the red arrow pointing towards him. So
44:37
Speaker 2: he was actually on the board of Yad Hannahdeve. Reid
44:40
Speaker 2: Hoffman is giving a lecture and actually that was given
44:43
Speaker 2: is the twenty second Isaiah Berlin lecture given by Reid
44:47
Speaker 2: Hoffman at the Hampstead Synagogue, which is also in Camden.
44:54
Speaker 2: As we spoke about earlier, on. So these things are
44:56
Speaker 2: all very very closely connected to each other. So what
45:00
Speaker 2: else has Hoberman been talking about. So he was in
45:03
Speaker 2: The Times last week saying that Elon Musk should be
45:06
Speaker 2: helping Britain to slash public spending. Entrepreneurs are far more
45:10
Speaker 2: experience than making tough budget decisions and politicians and bureaucrats.
45:13
Speaker 2: They really want the big tech companies and the billionaires.
45:17
Speaker 4: To get their hands around the state.
45:18
Speaker 2: This article delivered with Rohan Silver, who was a top
45:21
Speaker 2: advisor to Cameron, and I believe he was involved in
45:24
Speaker 2: the Big Society initiative. He was one of the people
45:26
Speaker 2: behind that, working with Steve Hilton, I believe in the
45:29
Speaker 2: early days of the Cameron government.
45:33
Speaker 4: He's also Hoberman.
45:35
Speaker 2: Posted recently about the exciting news coming out of Oxford.
45:38
Speaker 2: Hobeman's got very close links into Oxford and the startup ecosystem.
45:42
Speaker 2: There he's referencing the Ellison Oxford tie up, which apparently
45:46
Speaker 2: is going to be game changing for the UK's quest
45:50
Speaker 2: to commercialize scientific discoveries. They are trying to monetize and
45:55
Speaker 2: politicize absolutely everything right, whether it's the education system, healthcare,
46:00
Speaker 2: absolutely anywhere. This is a market for people to make
46:03
Speaker 2: money in right, you have to understand that.
46:04
Speaker 4: And obviously we know that Tony.
46:06
Speaker 2: Blair, God love him, is intimately involved with Larry Ellison.
46:12
Speaker 2: Ellison's supplied software to the UK government when Blair was
46:17
Speaker 2: in number ten as Prime Minister. They are still working
46:22
Speaker 2: together very closely. In fact, mister Ellison gave the Blair
46:27
Speaker 2: Institute twenty six million pounds in twenty twenty one and
46:31
Speaker 2: actually has donated I believe in twenty two a further
46:34
Speaker 2: thirty eight million pounds to Blair's institute in order to
46:38
Speaker 2: progress the well the ractical change agenda the bless it's
46:43
Speaker 2: at the center of and the people like Ellison are
46:45
Speaker 2: making billions out of on a recurring basis. And in
46:49
Speaker 2: fact the NHS in particular runs one of the biggest deployments,
46:54
Speaker 2: if not the biggest deployment of Oracle, the database system
46:57
Speaker 2: that's been developed by Larry Ellison through not least his
47:02
Speaker 2: links into US military intelligence to CI and also with
47:06
Speaker 2: linked into Israel. And they sit right at the heart
47:10
Speaker 2: of this. And Brent Hogman is a big fan. Actually,
47:13
Speaker 2: I've got a nice little picture of the Ellison and
47:16
Speaker 2: Blair looking cozy on a boat on Lake como I believe.
47:22
Speaker 2: So this is the kind of the melieaure that Tony
47:26
Speaker 2: Blair is associating with, and he has been absolutely strident
47:32
Speaker 2: in recent days. Actually has came out on the eleventh
47:35
Speaker 2: just a few days ago saying that taxes are too high.
47:38
Speaker 4: Yeah.
47:39
Speaker 2: Interesting, we saw that thing earlier about council tax is
47:42
Speaker 2: being lifted. So now Tony Blair can step in and say,
47:45
Speaker 2: oh my goodness, taxes are so high. The NHS is
47:49
Speaker 2: coming apart at the seams again, same language from that
47:51
Speaker 2: BBC article. We need a once in a generation disruption.
47:58
Speaker 2: Here's what could change everything.
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Speaker 1: Can we just put that one back on screen because
48:03
Speaker 1: I think that headline is just very telling. So the NHS,
48:07
Speaker 1: of course destroyed, amongst other things, by the Common Purpose
48:12
Speaker 1: Future Leaders or million change Agents. You can see that
48:16
Speaker 1: article if you go on the UK column website. NHS
48:19
Speaker 1: a million change agents. So we destroy the NHS, and
48:24
Speaker 1: what's Tony Blair saying? We need once in a generation disruption.
48:29
Speaker 1: This means flattening not just the NHS. This is about
48:32
Speaker 1: flattening the country because we've got to destroy the old
48:36
Speaker 1: before the revolution. Their revolution can bring in the new elements.
48:41
Speaker 1: That's what we're looking at, Ben.
48:42
Speaker 2: Exactly and that's what pattern FAD and the Testing Learned
48:45
Speaker 2: teams and the Cabinet Office and George Gould are up to.
48:49
Speaker 2: This is exactly what we're talking about here. And Blair's
48:52
Speaker 2: leading out the macro narrative. He's saying that we need
48:55
Speaker 2: it once in the generation disruption. Where does that lead
48:57
Speaker 2: to believe it or not? It leads to ID I
49:01
Speaker 2: make you this confident prediction. In the not too distant future,
49:04
Speaker 2: British people will all have their own unique digital identifier
49:08
Speaker 2: and will make most transactions through their phone as citizens
49:12
Speaker 2: with government and as customers with firms. It is inevitable.
49:16
Speaker 2: Blair has handed it down. There is absolutely no other
49:19
Speaker 2: direction that we can go into. I'll continue with the.
49:21
Speaker 4: Quote and we will wonder what all the fuss was about.
49:24
Speaker 2: It will make everything we do faster, cheaper and more reliable.
49:28
Speaker 2: Let's just get on with it and stop complaining, shall we.
49:31
Speaker 2: Tony Blair has set the direction that we all need
49:34
Speaker 2: to head in. Apparently right, So what else was in
49:38
Speaker 2: that post from Hoberman? We can see they're on the
49:41
Speaker 2: bottom right. I won't read the whole thing out, but
49:43
Speaker 2: you should go and follow this guy on LinkedIn. By
49:46
Speaker 2: the way, LinkedIn is a real hotbed for this stuff.
49:48
Speaker 2: As you can imagine, this is the professional platform as
49:51
Speaker 2: all these things get announced and where they're a little
49:53
Speaker 2: bit more free and easy with their public statements quite frankly,
49:56
Speaker 2: because as you've noticed earlier, he's given away a lot
49:59
Speaker 2: of information. And we can see here David Agis and
50:02
Speaker 2: William haig who he.
50:05
Speaker 4: David AGAs well.
50:06
Speaker 2: He's the CEO of the Ellison Medical Institute based in
50:09
Speaker 2: Los Angeles, so he's an Ellison outrider. He's been working
50:14
Speaker 2: with him for fifteen years. You can see how this
50:16
Speaker 2: stuff's been tested in developed in the US and is
50:19
Speaker 2: now going to be deployed here in the UK. And
50:23
Speaker 2: William Haigu, a former Tory leader for McKinsey, consulan and
50:26
Speaker 2: now Chancellor of Oxford University, just announced in the past
50:31
Speaker 2: couple of weeks goodness me and he was up against
50:34
Speaker 2: who else was running. Mandelson was running. There's a real
50:37
Speaker 2: rogues gallery of people in the box for this job.
50:40
Speaker 2: Haigus picked it up. Hoberman was backing him big time.
50:43
Speaker 2: So this is something from the William Haigue to be
50:46
Speaker 2: Oxford University Chancellor group that was also popped up on LinkedIn.
50:51
Speaker 4: You can see there.
50:51
Speaker 2: He's got the Raise A May backing him, He's got
50:53
Speaker 2: Hoberman backing him.
50:54
Speaker 4: He's got Baroness.
50:56
Speaker 2: Dan Bissa Moyo who is basically a Rothschild Dent as
51:00
Speaker 2: far as I can tell, John Bell, yeah, all of
51:05
Speaker 2: you know, all of the big names going.
51:07
Speaker 4: For William Hague. He's picked it up.
51:09
Speaker 2: And obviously Blair is going to be really happy about
51:11
Speaker 2: that because he and Hague are thick as thieves and
51:14
Speaker 2: they're going to be standing around together making those funny
51:16
Speaker 2: hand signs that they make and using the intellectual theft
51:19
Speaker 2: and the reputation of Oxford University as well as this
51:23
Speaker 2: technology ecosystem that we've just described to radically transform British
51:28
Speaker 2: society and make billions of pounds and dollars for international investors.
51:34
Speaker 4: In particular.
51:35
Speaker 2: They are absolutely salivating about getting their hands on the
51:39
Speaker 2: NHS and our personal data right. And actually people talk
51:43
Speaker 2: a lot about data, and I really want to reinforce
51:46
Speaker 2: that when they say data, what they mean is you, yeah,
51:49
Speaker 2: and it's human information interactions, hyper personalized and they want
51:55
Speaker 2: to sell that.
51:56
Speaker 4: Read that headline.
51:57
Speaker 2: They're going to sell off NHS data, our data, your
52:01
Speaker 2: data that we paid for. It's all funded by the taxpayer,
52:05
Speaker 2: in order to put us at the heart of.
52:07
Speaker 4: The AI revolution.
52:09
Speaker 2: And actually, I think this image here sums up these
52:12
Speaker 2: two absolutely perfectly.
52:14
Speaker 4: Just look at the facial expressions.
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Speaker 1: My goodness, it's all becoming a bit obvious as we
52:19
Speaker 1: follow these people around and their power base, and the
52:22
Speaker 1: idea that we have a democracy, we vote in these
52:25
Speaker 1: politicians and the politicians run the policy is just simply ridiculous.
52:30
Speaker 1: We are in what many people see now as a
52:34
Speaker 1: building fascist state. Effectively, where big business and government are indistinguishable.
52:40
Speaker 4: Is corporatism.
52:41
Speaker 1: Absolutely well, okay, we'll talk more on this in extra time. Now,
52:46
Speaker 1: Diane'm just going to bring you in briefly. You've got
52:48
Speaker 1: a little segment here. It's really about disruption. But this
52:51
Speaker 1: is the attack on our identity and particularly the identity
52:56
Speaker 1: of children.
52:57
Speaker 4: What have you got?
52:58
Speaker 5: Yeah, So it is a bit a bit of good news,
53:01
Speaker 5: I guess we can't say, actually quite a bit of
53:03
Speaker 5: good news that we are disrupt We have been disrupting
53:07
Speaker 5: puberty for certain children who have been indoctrinated enough in schools,
53:11
Speaker 5: on in libraries and so on to believe that they
53:14
Speaker 5: might be the opposite gender or sex we'll say sex.
53:17
Speaker 3: Gender.
53:18
Speaker 5: Then you know, this goes along with the idea of
53:21
Speaker 5: the cast Review, which said that blocking puberty with medication
53:25
Speaker 5: there's very little or no evidence for it, and in
53:27
Speaker 5: fact there's probably negative.
53:29
Speaker 3: Evidence for it. And so last week the Health.
53:31
Speaker 5: Secretary West Streeting announced that he was going to follow
53:35
Speaker 5: the recommendations made by the Commission of Human Medicines and
53:38
Speaker 5: banned puberty blockers all across the UK, including in Scotland,
53:41
Speaker 5: where they had been held up a bit at first,
53:44
Speaker 5: where of course LGBTU Scotland be very very unhappy about
53:47
Speaker 5: this decision. I just have a quick clip here from
53:50
Speaker 5: west Streeting to see what he waffled about when he
53:53
Speaker 5: made the announcement.
53:54
Speaker 13: At the same time, I know it's not easy being
53:57
Speaker 13: a trans kid in our country today. The trans community
54:02
Speaker 13: is at the wrong end of all of the statistics
54:04
Speaker 13: for mental ill health, self harm and suicide. I can't
54:09
Speaker 13: pretend to know what that's like, but I do know
54:12
Speaker 13: what it's like to feel you have to bury a
54:15
Speaker 13: secret about yourself, to be afraid of who you are,
54:19
Speaker 13: to be bullied for it, and then to experience, the
54:22
Speaker 13: liberating experience of coming out. I know it won't feel
54:27
Speaker 13: like it based on the decisions I'm taking today, but
54:30
Speaker 13: I really do care about this, and so does this government.
54:34
Speaker 13: I'm determined to improve the quality of care and access
54:38
Speaker 13: to healthcare for all trans people. I am convinced that
54:41
Speaker 13: the full implementation of the CAST review will deliver material
54:45
Speaker 13: improvements in the well being, safety and dignity of trans
54:51
Speaker 13: people of all ages.
54:56
Speaker 5: So, of course, you know, we have a lot of
54:57
Speaker 5: waffle there from mister streeting a seen as well as
55:01
Speaker 5: you would expect. In recent days, a lot of the
55:03
Speaker 5: trans lobbyists protesting. There's a sign in front of West
55:07
Speaker 5: Streating's office as saying that we trans kids, so to speak,
55:11
Speaker 5: under eighteen children are not ponds for your politics. And
55:15
Speaker 5: we've seen a lot of the groups coming out, the
55:18
Speaker 5: pro trans groups for who want to transition children saying
55:23
Speaker 5: that puberty blockers are safe and this is ridiculous and
55:25
Speaker 5: it's nothing but discrimination. However, if we look at it
55:28
Speaker 5: from a very objective medical point of view, these medications
55:31
Speaker 5: are very dangerous. If you look at Mark Anderson's report
55:35
Speaker 5: from Friday, he reported on Abjecto Privera, which is one
55:38
Speaker 5: example of one of the drugs that can be used
55:40
Speaker 5: as what's so called puberty blockers. These kinds of medications
55:44
Speaker 5: are typically used in children only for something that is
55:46
Speaker 5: called precocious puberty, which can have detrimental effects on a
55:50
Speaker 5: child if they go into puberty too young. They were
55:53
Speaker 5: originally used for prostate cancer and then and also for
55:56
Speaker 5: women's health conditions. It's serious women's health issues such as
55:59
Speaker 5: indometrios for treatments, but not for children who think they
56:03
Speaker 5: might want to be a man.
56:04
Speaker 3: Or a woman or whatever in the future.
56:06
Speaker 5: So the NICE Guidelines, which is the UK's National Institute
56:09
Speaker 5: for Health and Care Excellence, lists a very long list
56:12
Speaker 5: of common or very common side effects, and these include
56:15
Speaker 5: very serious things like bone loss, depression, dizziness, like serious
56:21
Speaker 5: issues such as you know, basically, if they can do
56:25
Speaker 5: these things to grown ups, it really makes me worry
56:28
Speaker 5: that what they're going to do to children as their
56:30
Speaker 5: bodies are still developing. So that you can look at
56:33
Speaker 5: this link again on the show notes, but I don't
56:35
Speaker 5: want to read them all because they are quite disturbing.
56:37
Speaker 5: So the fact that they're saying but these are safe
56:39
Speaker 5: and saying this in favor of giving these to children
56:42
Speaker 5: for the sake of the discrimination issues in these things,
56:45
Speaker 5: and for mister Streating to say what he said, to
56:47
Speaker 5: sort of apologize for the decision that he was forced
56:50
Speaker 5: to make as a result of actual scientific evidence, is
56:53
Speaker 5: really quite hypercritical and concerning.
56:56
Speaker 1: And it looks to me like the demonstration side his
57:00
Speaker 1: office there was largely orchestrated. It's got that feel about it.
57:05
Speaker 1: So yeah, more on that in due course. Now I'm
57:10
Speaker 1: going to end the news today, I think a little
57:12
Speaker 1: bit unusually with a book and another UK column viewer
57:17
Speaker 1: pointing me in the direction of this book. It's called
57:19
Speaker 1: The Plot. It was It is by Nadine Dorries, who's
57:24
Speaker 1: the Conservative Culture Minister, so it is called The Plot,
57:28
Speaker 1: the shocking inside story of who really runs Britain. Now
57:32
Speaker 1: I'm going to say I have not fully read the
57:34
Speaker 1: book yet. I am about halfway through, so I'm going
57:38
Speaker 1: to be measured in what excuse me and what I say,
57:41
Speaker 1: because there's obviously material in that book that I haven't read.
57:46
Speaker 1: But before I make the comments I want to make today,
57:48
Speaker 1: I'm going to say that it's very clear to me
57:51
Speaker 1: that Nadine Dorris is absolutely over the moon with Boris Johnson,
57:56
Speaker 1: and if you visit a Facebook page, you can actually
57:59
Speaker 1: see many photographs of what is obviously a very close
58:03
Speaker 1: relationship with Boris, and clearly she thinks that he is
58:06
Speaker 1: a wonderful, kind, generous, clever, intelligent man. Now I think
58:13
Speaker 1: that has some limitations, but nevertheless, what she writes in
58:17
Speaker 1: the book I think has got some interest, has got
58:21
Speaker 1: some interest in content, and we need to discuss some
58:24
Speaker 1: of it.
58:25
Speaker 4: Now.
58:26
Speaker 1: Just from her Facebook page, she's got this ad if
58:31
Speaker 1: you like, for the plot, but you can also see
58:35
Speaker 1: a male article. Now I'm going to say that straight
58:38
Speaker 1: away the Daily Mail to me is playing down the
58:43
Speaker 1: content of a book. Here's the sub headline. No, not
58:47
Speaker 1: the Mafia, just business as usual in Westminster. So this
58:51
Speaker 1: is sort of like a film. Really, it's a bit
58:53
Speaker 1: of the Mafia Ben There's nothing too substantial in it.
58:57
Speaker 1: So as far as I can see, the male is
59:00
Speaker 1: talking about the book, but it's not really talking about
59:03
Speaker 1: what she was talking about. And just in a few seconds,
59:08
Speaker 1: I'm just going to use some of the words that
59:10
Speaker 1: she mentions in the book. Cummings gets a lot of attention,
59:15
Speaker 1: usually with label the dark Lord, but she's talking about sadism, narcissism, psychopathy,
59:22
Speaker 1: toxic toxic environments, threatening environments. She's talking about sedition, she's
59:30
Speaker 1: talking about the grooming of women, she's talking about Cummings
59:35
Speaker 1: briefing the media before Parliament has actually taken decisions. So
59:40
Speaker 1: I'm going to say to the audience that already, if
59:42
Speaker 1: you cannot understand why we have a parliament that seems
59:47
Speaker 1: to be out of control, it is because it is
59:50
Speaker 1: actually out of control. It's being controlled not but the politicians,
59:55
Speaker 1: but by people around them, alongside them, and indeed those
59:59
Speaker 1: outside Parliament itself. She talks about the politicization of the judiciary.
1:00:06
Speaker 1: If that is true, extremely serious, because it means that
1:00:10
Speaker 1: we are close now to losing justice itself. She identifies
1:00:17
Speaker 1: a movement, she talks about the Federation of Conservative Students.
1:00:22
Speaker 1: There's lots of talk about Oxford in this book, which
1:00:25
Speaker 1: I found interesting, Ben, But essentially she's identifying that there
1:00:30
Speaker 1: is a group of people controlling the politicians. Here. It
1:00:35
Speaker 1: is MP's were control. She says Boris was removed in
1:00:39
Speaker 1: a plot and that was because poor old Boris just
1:00:42
Speaker 1: didn't understand the people around him. Now I don't agree.
1:00:46
Speaker 1: I think she's rather naive here, but Nevertheless, she's seeing
1:00:50
Speaker 1: something which needs talking about. This for me is the killer.
1:00:55
Speaker 1: She talks about putting a paper in the box with
1:01:00
Speaker 1: the private box that would go to the Prime Minister,
1:01:04
Speaker 1: and it was her choice as to who was going
1:01:06
Speaker 1: to head offcom at the time there was a selection
1:01:11
Speaker 1: of a new head of Offcomb. She puts her official
1:01:14
Speaker 1: opinion in the dispatch box to go to the Prime Minister,
1:01:19
Speaker 1: and overnight her recommendation is changed to somebody else. Now,
1:01:24
Speaker 1: this to me says that Parliament is not only out
1:01:28
Speaker 1: of control, we've got treason at work, we've got sedition
1:01:33
Speaker 1: at work. Was this ever investigated by the police, not
1:01:36
Speaker 1: to my knowledge, And I'm just going to leave you
1:01:39
Speaker 1: with this that Basically she says that Boris was controlled
1:01:44
Speaker 1: initially then betrayed. But she says it is passion, knowledge
1:01:48
Speaker 1: and intellect. I've paraphrased here. This is not her exact words,
1:01:52
Speaker 1: but her exact words. But his passion, knowledge and intellect
1:01:56
Speaker 1: regarding Ukraine meant that he just had to act, and
1:02:00
Speaker 1: Boris acted, He closed down the peace talks and we've
1:02:04
Speaker 1: got whatever it is, five hundred and six hundred thousand dead.
1:02:09
Speaker 4: A million there.
1:02:10
Speaker 1: Well, okay, whatever it is. So the point is, and
1:02:14
Speaker 1: we're going to do more on this that what Nadin
1:02:16
Speaker 1: Doris identifies is parliament not just God some bad things happening.
1:02:22
Speaker 1: She talks about Parliament being out of control and if
1:02:27
Speaker 1: the MP system is out of control, the next question
1:02:30
Speaker 1: we've got to ask is who is controlling Parliament? Because
1:02:34
Speaker 1: what can we see these malicious policies coming in that
1:02:38
Speaker 1: you've covered so well today, Ben, that are now driving
1:02:41
Speaker 1: what's happening in the country. We'll leave on that note,
1:02:45
Speaker 1: have a think about it. If you choose to buy
1:02:48
Speaker 1: the book, then that's, in my opinion good because we
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Speaker 1: can then have a full discussion about what this woman
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Speaker 1: says is really going on inside Westminster. We'll end there. Ben,
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Speaker 1: thank you very much for joining me today and Diane,
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Speaker 1: thank you for coming in. We will be back in
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Speaker 1: a few minutes for UK Column Extra. We've got a
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Speaker 1: lot of things to discuss. Huge thank you to the
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Speaker 1: audience and we will be back at the same time
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Speaker 1: on Wednesday. See you then, bye bye.