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Being in badass in Business and Life is a good Thing · Authentic Living

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  Welcome to authentic living with Roxanne, a place where we have conscious conversations
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  about things that really matter in our lives.
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  And now here's your host, Roxanne Durgesh.
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  Derhodge, it's, Roxanne.
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  How are you this week?
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  I'm I'm sure you're hanging in there like we all are.
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  So today, I have a colleague.
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  I met Dana about a year ago.
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  Dale is a a professional speaker like myself, I actually just got accepted in.
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  She was the membership person that got me involved with, caps, which is the professional
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  association for speakers in Canada.
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  Dana actually knew someone in common, and we got connected that way.
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  And we we've been attending meetings for quite a while.
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  Data's, done a lot of things and have a bit of a bio.
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  So, Dana, thanks so much for being here with us today.
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  Oh, it's my pleasure.
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  Thank you, Roxanne.
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  So Dana is, I've gotta literally be it's it's it says becoming a badass.
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  She's a bit of a badass in life and business.
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  You know, being a badass in a life and business requires you to stand in your power and be
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  super fee with being unique.
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  Dana knows all about standing out and being unique.
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  Her personal brand of the inner dominatrix, which is everybody's thinking, oh, I can't wait
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  to hear about that, pushes people out of their comfort zone, challenges their perceived
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  notions that has them stepping into a fierce termination to rock their bowels.
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  And that seems like it should go with red shoes, Dana.
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  Sexy unfilled lives Dana is a 2 time international number 1 best selling author, a 2
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  time awards, winning speaker and This commitment is to living life in command of her,
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  I was gonna say divine feminine, but feminine power helping others connect with her in a
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  dominatrix has made her a sought after speaker and coach.
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  Wow.
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  I like it.
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  Thank you.
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  So I know recently, Dana just, I just bought a copy of her book, and I have not read it.
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  So I will say that upfront.
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  So I can get to that.
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  Absolutely.
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  So Dana just recently, launched your box.
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  So maybe we should start their data.
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  Sure.
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  What's that?
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  I know it's been a whirlwind.
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  Yeah.
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  It has been a whirlwind.
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  Oh my goodness.
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  Yeah.
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  All of these things are like an epic undertaking, but so this is the first of a
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  series.
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  And the series is called the inner dominatrix Guide.
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  And of course, this one is called become a badass.
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  In business.
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  So the book has been, a journey for me personally because in this book, I've brought
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  in a lot of my personal story, a lot of the, you know, stories from the dungeon.
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  So, you know, really kind of pulling back the kimono wide open and sharing all my
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  vulnerability in this story and, you know, bringing the lessons of that world and how they
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  relate to business and how people can step into the mindset that they need to really show up
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  and grow the business that they're looking for.
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  Now until 50 Shades of gray, none of us were talking about this kind of stuff.
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  Right?
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  And then it became kinda I'm gonna use the word vanilla because everybody was talking about it.
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  Yes.
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  I want you to I I heard your story and was a year ago in, to be able to represent our
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  chapter in, Ottawa so it was a pleasure.
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  I saw you and some other fantastic, other speakers.
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  So I I have the pleasure of of knowing your story or what was it 5 minutes?
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  That's all I got.
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  Anyway I know.
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  You just get a small little segment.
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  So And
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  I'm like, okay.
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  Tell me more.
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  So I have to get out and see your keynote sometime.
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  So, you know, Dana, I often say that, you know, we all have a path.
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  We have a story, and obviously you're saying that in your book, you're sharing that.
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  Tell me up kind of what, I mean, obviously, you're speaking, you're coaching, you're doing
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  lots of things out there.
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  Where did where did your story begin?
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  I you know, it's been this evolution.
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  You know, people say, oh, where did it begin?
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  I don't know too many people that have a really clear cut beginning, but you know, to kind of
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  walk people through quickly the journey.
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  So when I graduated school, I was a massage therapist, and so that was back in 92.
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  And Over the years, my work evolved.
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  And gradually well, actually, very quickly, I started to having to bring in energy work and
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  cycle therapy because I found that was really what was going on for people.
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  What was keeping them stocked physically was more what was in their head.
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  And so my work progressed and involved into more of a coaching model.
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  And eventually, I just realized, you know what?
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  Really, I'm doing coaching and I'm being underpaid for it.
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  So I decided to retire my license and and go full time into coaching.
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  Now that's that's one street.
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  Now along simultaneous with that, In 1999, I opened up a massage supply store and went
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  through the journey of, you know, having staff and inventory and then eventually going through
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  a bankruptcy and having to lay everybody off.
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  And it's in that journey where I started to realize that the skills that I had in my
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  personal life of being a dominatrix, which was, you know, again, concurrent with all of these
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  things, like, it was lined up.
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  Right?
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  So I was a dominatrix in my personal life and had a real strength going on there, but I
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  wasn't bringing that into my business.
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  And when I took a really hard look at why the business failed, you know, beyond the, oh, we
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  had too much inventory or we had staff making mistakes and, you know, shipping the wrong
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  product out, the way to ship it out, ship it back, and ship it out again.
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  The underlying piece was that I could see that I wasn't being the leader that was required.
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  And the leadership skills that I was leaving kind of segregated into my personal life and
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  not bringing them into the business.
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  And then in with that, I started to look around to other women in business, particularly women,
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  And I noticed that, you know, what?
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  There's a lot of women who do not stand in that power.
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  They do not stand in that leadership in a way that's unapologetic.
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  And yet still quiet, soft, and feminine.
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  And so I I really wanted to bring this inner dominatrix as an archetype for women in
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  business.
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  Amazing.
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  So, I mean, most of us, you know, females, you know, you and I, I think, around the same kinda
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  age category.
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  Be Roxanne we, you know, we I mean, at least I know in in my family was like, yeah, achieve,
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  but when you get out in the world, You get those implicit messages that say, oh, it's all
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  well and good.
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  You know, however, There's that that, you know, what they say, the glass ceiling.
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  It's really there, and it keeps bumping up against it.
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  So a lot of times, what ends up happening, I remember when in corporates, I was always
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  bumping up against it.
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  And you're like, is it because I'm female?
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  Is it if I say too much, you know, I'm quote unquote, you know, the aggressive one of the
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  the one of the bad word, the bitch.
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  But I'd be do doing no difference at the corporate, you know, table than my other male
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  counterparts.
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  So it kinda, you know, a lot of after a while, you kinda you found your groove
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  Mhmm.
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  To be able to get done.
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  And sometimes you would back off.
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  I know I would at times.
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  And because I'm the only one generally, maybe, or some women would, but when it came to, like,
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  kinda formalizing things they'd back off.
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  Right.
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  Yeah.
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  There's there's a it's a fine balance in that, you know, women haven't been seen as you know,
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  the leaders are assertive.
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  And so when they do step up, they're afraid of being called the bitch.
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  And it for good reason because, you know, we have been when we stand up.
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  And yet, there are ways that we can lean into our feminine strength.
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  That calls people to task without being masculine aggressive.
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  And I think it's when women get into the masculine aggressive energy is is when they
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  more likely get called a bitch because it doesn't feel the same.
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  But, you know, it's it's I think it's more of, I know, for me, one of the analogies is when
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  you think about the stereotypical black woman, you know, mama.
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  Right?
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  Don't nobody mess with mama.
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  And it's that kind of energy.
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  She is strong.
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  She is feminine.
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  And yet the like, you just know you do not pull anything with her, right, because You're gonna
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  get a cuff upside the head.
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  And I think if women, you know, in business and in the boardroom were to actually pull a little
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  bit more from that feminine strength, lean into it, people would show them more respect
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  naturally because it's not using you're not trying to copy what the men are doing.
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  You're you're bringing your own authentic strength into the scenario.
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  Absolutely.
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  I I I completely agree.
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  But sometimes what ends up is it's difficult.
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  You're trying Oh, yeah.
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  Angles.
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  Right?
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  And I think that, you know, I I and I saw it, you know, in the in the 15 years kind of in
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  consulting.
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  And sometimes it would be blatant.
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  And then sometimes, you know, you would see females above you, and I can think of, you
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  know, one particular female that was, you know, 2 ranks above myself at that time.
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  And she was brutal.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  And then you think, well, you're female like me.
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  You're you're getting the same tide except you're too up from me, you know, kinda wanting
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  to kinda, I guess, be able to relate to be able to think that, you know, you would kind of
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  understand what it's like to be, you know, female in the ranks.
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  And sometimes, you know, it was easier to deal with the males at that rank than it was that,
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  you know, and I'm not seeing that of all, you know, SVPs they're a female, but in the in my
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  opinion, the one that I was exposed to did it quite poorly.
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  Yeah.
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  And it's it's challenging because realistically, women have only been in the
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  workforce for, a 100 years and, you know, moving up the ranks for probably the last 50 or
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  60 years.
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  So we don't have a lot of history to draw on.
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  And and whereas men have had a very long history of working with other men, and they
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  have developed this camaraderie and, you know, here, I'm gonna mentor you.
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  I'm gonna pull you along.
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  You know, the the women who were leading the way, You know, I give them kudos.
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  They had to fight and claw.
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  And and so, you know, they probably were burnt out and didn't have anything left to give.
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  To the women who were coming behind them.
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  Now it was short sighted, but I do I, you know, I completely forgive them that it's like, how
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  could you?
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  Like, you just You have spent so much fighting and clawing.
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  And I think the next generation that's kinda coming behind you and I They're seeing where
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  they need more collaboration.
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  They need more mentoring.
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  And and and our generation, I see more women reaching down to lift up.
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  So I think I think that's gonna change in the next 50 years.
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  I think we're gonna see a a lot more collaborative, a lot more mentoring, and and we
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  need it.
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  We absolutely need it.
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  So the
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  the burning question I have Mhmm.
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  Which I'll go deep.
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  I'm sure you've heard this a million times.
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  As a dominatrix, right?
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  What are the translatable skills that you bring to the boardroom?
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  And when you women, how do you kind of, introduce those con steps.
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  Yeah.
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  So
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  here's here's what I see is, you know, if we look at the dominatrix and turn her into an
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  archetype, she is authentically confident because when you step into the dungeon, the
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  moment that you step in, you have to show up fully.
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  You have to be holding this space, holding the energy, and holding that, you know, presence.
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  Otherwise, the submissive will not believe you.
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  You know, they can smell fear a mile away.
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  That it's like you have to be on.
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  There is no faking it.
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  And I think that's a really big piece for business is that, you know, we've been taught
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  for a long time saying, you know, fake it till you make it.
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  Faking it doesn't work anymore, especially when you wanna lean into a feminine power, that's
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  not faking it.
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  That is that quiet confidence in which you have to, like, own it in your body.
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  So that's probably the first one.
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  Next one is in negotiations.
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  So, obviously, you know, for people who know a little bit or have watched 50 Shades or read 50
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  Shades, there's a negotiation that happens prior to any scene.
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  And we talk about What's what are you willing to do?
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  What do you wanna do?
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  What do you never wanna do?
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  And then, you know, and what do I wanna do and what I never wanna And you play within the zone
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  of what overlaps.
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  So you're you're negotiating.
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  You're never compromising.
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  And I think, again, that's another piece, you know, for corporate or for business that women
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  can really lean into, not compromising anymore.
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  Win win or no deal.
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  Mhmm.
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  And both of those skills and, of course, You know, there's a bit more, but both of those
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  skills require us to get to this place where we're letting go of the judgments of who we
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  think we are, who we should be, how we think we were gonna show up.
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  And, you know, the more that we untangle from those all that burden of who, you know, how we
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  think we should be showing up.
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  When we start to untangle from that, then we're free.
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  We're free to move.
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  And we're free to just, you know, show up authentically show up as us.
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  And naturally, we're gonna come from this place of negotiating with these because when we're
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  not confined with what we think we should be doing or what we think we're gonna lose and all
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  all those should.
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  Then it's like, oh, let's just show up and play the game.
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  It becomes easy.
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  Wow.
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  That that sounds like a nice place to be.
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  Right?
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  Kinda like when you go into the first time to corporate customer or something like that, it's
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  it's what I hear you're really, you know, I hadn't thought about it from that perspective,
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  but it's a bit of poised.
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  Right?
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  Mhmm.
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  Right?
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  Because if you're going in with that perspective, you're kinda, you know, you got
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  your dress on, you got a presence, but really bigger than that, it's about the space that
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  you're embodying when you're entering that situation to say I bring value, I bring
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  expertise.
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  I'm here, you know, what I know I can help with, and I'm here to really understand you.
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  And not go right into, you know, you know, what I could bring to you because you're it's it's
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  like a win win.
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  If you're talking about that subset, which I love that that that, word you used of the do
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  between the do's and the don'ts and finding that part of the circle that says, really, on a
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  corporate level, what are your needs?
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  These are my offerings.
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  You know, what is your mission?
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  And what's your vision?
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  And if it's corporate culture, you're really kind of it's helping you zone in.
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  Yeah.
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  It it really is.
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  And it you very quickly get to, you know, are we a good fit?
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  And and if it's not a good fit, then you just say no.
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  Because trying to fit, you know, that square peg in a round hole is trying to fit the client
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  that's not the the right connection into your services.
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  So sitting down and just, you know, objectively being able to go Am I able to serve you?
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  What do you actually need?
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  Mhmm.
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  And what what do I have that can that can work for you?
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  And if not, Who else can I send you to?
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  I like that because, you know, especially with, you know, if you're, let's say, you're
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  shifting, arenas, then, you know, if you're going, let's say you're starting to speak
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  professionally, right, and you're going out there.
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  You know, you're kinda thinking, oh my god.
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  Can I do this?
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  You know, can I, you know, presence am I bringing all those things?
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  But if you've kind of worked when I when I hear just clearly and you tell me, didn't it?
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  It sounds like a mindset.
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  Very much so.
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  So it's a mindset from that starts back away.
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  So a lot of people talk about mindset and you'll think about You know, even with, you
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  know, the classic Napoleon Hill, thinking grow rich.
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  Right?
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  That is in essence, a mindset book, but For most people, it doesn't actually address what
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  is getting in the way of you having that mindset.
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  It's one thing to say, I'm going to think positive.
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  I'm gonna, you know, see a good outcome.
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  And, you know, I'm gonna muscle my way through this.
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  Okay.
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  So here's my thing about willpower.
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  Will power is useless.
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  And, if you think back to, like, grade 6 science and you take magnets and you know, hey,
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  you have magnets and you take try to push the 2 south poles together.
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  Mhmm.
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  And no matter how hard you push, they just repel at the same strength that you are
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  pushing.
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  That to me is willpower.
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  So you can get close but you'll never click.
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  And you burn yourself out, and especially for women, we burn ourselves out pushing, pushing,
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  pushing, pushing, pushing, for willpower instead of taking a step back and say, okay.
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  Well, why don't I get, you know, get rid of what it is that preventing me from showing up
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  authentically, which is all of our internal judgments and the program is and all the, you
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  know, all the interesting fun things of our monkey mind.
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  If we eliminate those, then it's easy to show up.
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  And you start to move into the place of feeling passionate about what you're doing, And then
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  it's easy to engage the client or whatever it is that you're doing.
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  Or it's easy for you to go in and ask for a raise or any of those things.
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  Because you're not pushing.
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  And for women is vital because the minute that you get into push energy, you repel everyone in
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  the room.
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  Mhmm.
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  That magnet pushing them away, and they just, you know, they flee.
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  But when you flip the magnet around, you have the north and the south poles trying to click
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  together.
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  They just pull each other together, and it becomes easy.
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  And that's what we wanna move people towards is, you know, ditch the whole push hustle and
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  grind Sorry, Gary V.
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  I think you're totally wrong.
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  And, you know, being able to dig into our passion so that it propels us forward.
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  I like I like that example.
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  That's a very nice example.
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  And how many of us have done that?
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  I know I've done that through occurred several times.
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  Right?
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  Absolutely.
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  And then if you just kinda slow down and flip around a bit, all of a sudden, then things
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  start to slow.
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  Now with women,
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  Mhmm.
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  What are some of the biggest stumbling blocks that you find get in their way at achieving
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  this kind of mindset?
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  I think, 2 major things.
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  1, I'm not good enough.
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  Comes up in any number of variations.
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  So I'm not good enough for this job.
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  I'm not ready.
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  And, you know, Cheryl Sanderson spoke about that and lean in because the women will wait
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  until they are 110% ready before they go for and apply for the job.
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  You know, so the I'm not good enough.
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  It it shows up.
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  And then, you know, 2 is this worry about being judged.
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  And, you know, for again, this is like centuries of us as women being judged for our
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  appearance.
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  Our stature?
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  Are we good mothers?
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  Are we bad mothers?
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  Are we, you know, should we even be in a job?
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  And, you know, again, this is fairly new world for us to be in the corporate world.
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  And all of those, you know, judgments, we are constantly being labeled and, you know, put in
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  little boxes and we take that on.
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  So we need to unplug from that conditioning so that we can show up you know, just as ourselves
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  without fear of how are we gonna be seen?
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  That needs to go, and it can go.
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  And that's another area where I love pulling from the Dominatrix world because let me tell
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  you, as a Dominatrix, the first thing you have to get comfortable.
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  When you start talking about the fact that you are or have been, you are gonna be judged big
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  time.
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  And You might end up in a massive way.
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  So it's it's not just being okay with the judgment, but I take it a step further, and
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  it's like, I want people to use that judgment as fuel, to use it to your advantage and
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  actually be So comfortable with your your, like, bringing on.
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  I love it.
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  Bringing on.
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  Yeah.
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  To be honest with you, that is the one of the most courageous brands I've heard since I've
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  been involved.
• 21:12
  In speaking, honestly, because I I kinda sit there and go, oh, okay.
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  And I'm sure you get that, but when I hear what you're thought is about it.
• 21:24
  Now I am just I understand it more because I don't know that I've ever really sat down and
• 21:28
  talked to you about it.
• 21:30
  Because if I'm okay with who I am Mhmm.
• 21:34
  The what then who cares about the label?
• 21:37
  Right.
• 21:38
  Right?
• 21:39
  And, I mean, obviously, with our society and not that there's aren't bigger problems in the
• 21:43
  world that we, you know, people judge
• 21:47
  We're we're naturally inclined to judge.
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  And the thing is is that it's not we're not trying to change anybody from judging because
• 21:53
  we can't.
• 21:54
  Mhmm.
• 21:54
  But we can change how we respond to it.
• 21:58
  So our conditioned response right now is to put up a big wall and trying to deflect it, which
• 22:04
  is as effective as trying to block somebody who is running at you.
• 22:09
  Mhmm.
• 22:09
  No
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  matter how strong you are, you're not gonna do that.
• 22:12
  You're you're both gonna be bold over.
• 22:14
  But if you instead were to, you know, let yourself receive that judgment and just let it
• 22:20
  go on through and say, okay.
• 22:22
  Thanks.
• 22:22
  That's great.
• 22:23
  And and there's a long conditioning that goes with that, like, in training.
• 22:26
  So I can say this, but please understand that there is some process to get there.
• 22:31
  But it's like the difference is, like, you have that person running at you, and instead of
• 22:36
  trying to block them, you move out of the way.
• 22:40
  And they just they fall without you.
• 22:43
  Mhmm.
• 22:44
  And so that's the difference.
• 22:45
  We have to let ourselves you know, just be okay with it to be able to receive it in a way that
• 22:52
  it's, like, it's all good.
• 22:53
  It's just gonna go right on past.
• 22:56
  So how do you with female executives or people that you work with?
• 23:01
  Mhmm.
• 23:02
  How how
• 23:02
  do you kinda help them And then I know you said they're steps.
• 23:05
  So I I I know you covered it all.
• 23:08
  Yeah.
• 23:09
  How do you kind of start to harden them up in that way.
• 23:13
  Right?
• 23:14
  Because, like, you know, sometimes, you know, you see super confident women and then you you
• 23:19
  get to know them better and you're like, oh my god.
• 23:21
  That it's a facade.
• 23:23
  Mhmm.
• 23:24
  Right?
• 23:25
  Yeah.
• 23:25
  So what kind of things do you do?
• 23:27
  You know, to harden.
• 23:29
  I don't know if to I don't know if harden up is right.
• 23:31
  Well, not quite.
• 23:32
  I wouldn't call it hardening up.
• 23:33
  I would actually call it softening because we're we're taking the layers off.
• 23:37
  Okay.
• 23:38
  So so the process that I do with people is is very interesting in that we look at You know,
• 23:45
  the judgments and, what I call the energetic charge that we have on two sides of the
• 23:50
  equation.
• 23:50
  So we have in ourselves, we have this, you know, judgment say of I'm not good enough.
• 23:56
  And and you have, you know, bugaboos about the fact that you think you're not good enough And
• 24:01
  then you have bugaboo's about what it would mean to actually let that go.
• 24:04
  And so it's like this polarity creating this internal conflict, and it it creates a
• 24:10
  disruption.
• 24:11
  So there's this constant disruption.
• 24:13
  And the process that I take people through, which we don't have time to get into in-depth,
• 24:17
  but, basically, it clears off the energetic charge on both sides, and then you're left with
• 24:23
  a choice.
• 24:24
  You're left in the choice.
• 24:25
  And this case would be whether or not you wanna continue to judge yourself as not worthy.
• 24:30
  And if you clear off the charge that that's been created around why you need to hold on to
• 24:36
  it, why that's, you know, important, why you took it on.
• 24:40
  We clear all of those off.
• 24:43
  You're not going to naturally want to jet see yourself as broken or, you know, unworthy
• 24:50
  because your natural state, and this is this gets a little bit into the higher level
• 24:55
  consciousness, which I love playing with, but your natural state is to see yourself as a
• 25:01
  divine being.
• 25:02
  Mhmm.
• 25:03
  And in that space, there's never anything wrong with you.
• 25:05
  You're not broken.
• 25:06
  You're not scared.
• 25:08
  You're not any of those things.
• 25:09
  And so it's it's bringing people back around to connect with who they are authentically, and
• 25:15
  it's a lot of it's this process of Untangling them.
• 25:19
  And once you untangle, then it's just a choice whether they move forward or not, which is what
• 25:24
  makes it easy.
• 25:26
  It's not forced.
• 25:27
  It's not I have to do 50,000 affirmations.
• 25:30
  I don't have to, you know, do any kind of repetition.
• 25:32
  I'm not having to, like, you know, lift a £100 at the gym before I'm ready, it becomes easy.
• 25:38
  We just remove the baggage that's there.
• 25:41
  And then they show up.
• 25:43
  They're brilliant.
• 25:44
  They're natural brilliant.
• 25:45
  So I I see a lot of people who are absolutely brilliant, but it's like they've got this
• 25:49
  crusted cocoon around them.
• 25:51
  And I come along and I pull off all the layers of the cocoon.
• 25:54
  And then they're like, oh, hey.
• 25:56
  Fabulous.
• 25:56
  I feel fabulous.
• 25:57
  And I'm like, well, been there that all along.
• 26:00
  You just were carrying some baggage.
• 26:02
  So that's kind of in a nutshell what you know, what the process is.
• 26:06
  And as we go along, then I can start to connect them a little bit more to the idea of, you
• 26:13
  know, it's like if you are this divine being, in being willing to receive any energy because
• 26:19
  what if energy is neither positive nor negative?
• 26:23
  Right?
• 26:23
  We start to go into some of those bigger concepts, which, again, the the down the road.
• 26:31
  So that that's that's fascinating.
• 26:33
  So once you kind of get them, you know, outside of the cocoon, then and they can really start
• 26:39
  to list naturally to who they need to be.
• 26:42
  Absolutely.
• 26:42
  Yeah.
• 26:43
  Do you find do you find because in our roles, we take on so much that sometimes I'm gonna say
• 26:51
  systems.
• 26:52
  That's probably not the right word, but, all the responsibilities that women have actually
• 26:59
  impacts that space to get to that space.
• 27:03
  Doesn't make it more difficult.
• 27:07
  Yes and no.
• 27:08
  I mean, it
• 27:12
  that was me.
• 27:13
  I'm sorry.
• 27:16
  Okay.
• 27:17
  Okay.
• 27:18
  So, you know, it's interesting for a lot of the times when I work with men, even though I
• 27:23
  don't, you know, specifically market to men, but sometimes men gravitate towards me.
• 27:27
  I do find that they untangle a little faster.
• 27:31
  And I think sometimes with women, it's it is that feeling responsible, feeling like, you
• 27:37
  know, this is what I'm supposed to be doing.
• 27:39
  I'm the one who's the nurturer or the caretaker.
• 27:42
  And so Sometimes it's it's kind of, you know, prying their fingers off of that responsibility
• 27:48
  to be everybody's nurturer and caretaker.
• 27:52
  Once that is loosened off, it's a lot easier for them to start to be what they call selfish,
• 27:58
  which is the hair taking and, you know, getting letting go of the baggage and stepping into
• 28:05
  being powerful, stepping into asking for what you want.
• 28:08
  You and really claiming what it is that that you're good at.
• 28:11
  Those are the things that, yeah, sometimes it can take a little longer, but it doesn't have
• 28:16
  to.
• 28:16
  It's actually It still can be fairly fast to untangle from it.
• 28:20
  Well, I'm sure because once you kinda I I always go back to you.
• 28:23
  You can't unknow.
• 28:25
  That's right.
• 28:26
  Work.
• 28:27
  Right?
• 28:27
  Because now you're like, oh my goodness.
• 28:29
  I may maybe I have some things to push and pull at me.
• 28:32
  Maybe I'm at a certain stage, maybe I can't do, you know, I think of what I can do now with a
• 28:38
  seventeen year old where where I when I was in consulting, he was 4.
• 28:42
  Like, I mean and there was so much I wanted to keep going, but then again, I couldn't to some
• 28:49
  degree because then I would miss him.
• 28:52
  So I had
• 28:52
  to hide
• 28:53
  that balance and get that Yeah.
• 28:55
  Because I put it up, but then I would have miss really, really significant things with him in
• 28:59
  the stage.
• 29:00
  So it's sometimes it's kinda being able to have those conversations with yourself like what is
• 29:04
  the goal
• 29:06
  You know?
• 29:06
  And, you know, I can achieve any goal, but then is it the goal that I want?
• 29:12
  Right.
• 29:13
  Time.
• 29:13
  Right?
• 29:13
  So I'm sure you could probably talk a lot about that with women.
• 29:17
  Now in reference to, other than mindset, what other things do you kind of pull from the
• 29:25
  Dominage?
• 29:25
  I'm gonna say model.
• 29:26
  I don't know if that's the right word, but the Arch
• 29:28
  archetype is what I think.
• 29:29
  Archetype.
• 29:30
  Yeah.
• 29:30
  What other things do you pull into your coaching from?
• 29:33
  So I'd I'd say this is a a really strong, energy component you know, the the woo,
• 29:38
  spiritual side of things.
• 29:40
  So, intuition, your gut instinct is a really big factor and You know, women have this
• 29:46
  naturally, but we just fine tune that so that you're willing to actually follow it because,
• 29:53
  you know, the example I always give to people is that you know, your intuition has never been
• 29:58
  wrong.
• 29:59
  Never.
• 30:00
  When you think about it, like, there is nothing in the world that is a 100% accurate other than
• 30:04
  your intuition.
• 30:05
  Now where we get in the ways that our monkey mind, you know, steps in there and, you know,
• 30:10
  wants a certain outcome.
• 30:12
  And so then question the intuition.
• 30:14
  I'm thinking, oh, no.
• 30:15
  That can't possibly be right or, you know, it's it muddles with it.
• 30:19
  So I do an intuition boot camp training with people.
• 30:22
  And get them really connected so that they're listening, you know, the way that they need to
• 30:28
  listen so that they can hear the messages.
• 30:30
  And also really willing to follow it.
• 30:32
  And then what that does, of course, is that it always moves you towards where you wanna go.
• 30:38
  It may not always look cognitively the right decision, but it's always leading you exactly
• 30:45
  where you need to go in and kind of, like, rest on that That also speeds up your kind of your
• 30:50
  decision making process.
• 30:51
  Like, you know, you can do your decisions in 5 seconds or less.
• 30:55
  And I and you don't need to be, you know, scattered and running all over the place.
• 30:59
  So you can be more efficient with time.
• 31:03
  The other thing is being really present, being really mindful.
• 31:06
  And when you are present, you're in a state of relaxation, which Of course, we know all the
• 31:11
  health benefits.
• 31:12
  Right?
• 31:13
  When we lower our stress level, when we lower that stress response, get into the relaxation
• 31:19
  response.
• 31:20
  The body goes into healing.
• 31:22
  You have deeper breathing, which gives you more oxygen, which You know, all the amazing
• 31:27
  benefits of being in a relaxed state, you also have more cognitive processing ability when
• 31:33
  you're in a relaxed state.
• 31:34
  So you're gonna come up with more creative ideas and solutions and be able to, you know,
• 31:38
  be there with the client, negotiate from what they want as well as what you want and and drop
• 31:44
  into that.
• 31:45
  So it's a lot of energy and attunement
• 31:50
  Yes.
• 31:51
  With the core, like, the core real self then.
• 31:54
  I hear
• 31:54
  it.
• 31:55
  Yeah.
• 31:55
  And that from there, then they can kind of project forward where they want to go based on
• 32:01
  the goals that they've come to you with.
• 32:03
  Yeah.
• 32:04
  Wow.
• 32:05
  That's that sounds amazing.
• 32:07
  So the book so tell us about the book.
• 32:09
  Tell I mean, I know I've seen it all over, and, tell me what's what's been going on, and I know
• 32:16
  it's done quite well since it's been released.
• 32:19
  We yeah.
• 32:20
  So we hit we hit number 1, which is great.
• 32:22
  Number 1 in 3 different categories.
• 32:25
  And, more so than that, I you know, people are reading the book really connecting with the
• 32:32
  story seeing themselves in it.
• 32:34
  This is these are the things that I'm hearing.
• 32:36
  It's giving them a completely different perspective on on business, a way to access
• 32:42
  their mindset.
• 32:44
  And, you know, it's it's just so amazing.
• 32:47
  Have people say, I loved your book and it really changed my life.
• 32:53
  Like, that for me is like, okay.
• 32:55
  Great.
• 32:56
  It was worth the 18 months of agony that it took to write this thing than, you know.
• 33:01
  Wow.
• 33:02
  Wow.
• 33:03
  Yeah.
• 33:04
  So people are looking at, and they're really gaining stuff from it.
• 33:07
  They are because it it's very packed with tools.
• 33:09
  It's not just my story.
• 33:12
  But it's I've packed in practical tools of, you know, that people can apply using their life,
• 33:18
  get these, you know, processes going to get started on really claiming your inner
• 33:23
  dominatrix.
• 33:25
  What was that experience like for you writing the book?
• 33:28
  Because it's so much of it was personal.
• 33:31
  I'm sure.
• 33:32
  And and, I mean, obviously, you're blending today.
• 33:37
  Prepared to write the book.
• 33:38
  Like, how did you did you do a did you have a certain ritual?
• 33:41
  You said it took 18 months.
• 33:44
  Yeah.
• 33:44
  It was It was a bit haphazard.
• 33:46
  You know, I would do it differently looking back because it's always easy to see hindsight.
• 33:51
  But, for me, I had a general plan of, what I wanted to cover in the book, and I always kept
• 33:57
  in mind, you know, the the reader.
• 34:00
  That was who I was writing this for.
• 34:01
  It was it was the person who was gonna be reading the book.
• 34:04
  And so when I was figuring out what stories I wanted to include and, you know, what aspects I
• 34:10
  wanted to share, it was always like, you know, why do I wanna tell this person the story.
• 34:15
  How do I tie that in?
• 34:16
  And, you know, why it took me so long because, you know, the actual writing process I probably
• 34:22
  could have done it a month.
• 34:25
  But I would write a chapter and then, you know, have to take some time to actually process for
• 34:31
  with with me, you know, and go and get some sessions and work through, am I willing to
• 34:36
  share this?
• 34:37
  You know, is this a story that is really valuable Is it going to be too much?
• 34:42
  And and it went through a lot of edits because I wanted to make sure that the stories were
• 34:48
  there that created impact, but not so much that they were traumatizing because it's not the
• 34:53
  point.
• 34:54
  It's not to be sensational.
• 34:55
  It's just to give people a flavor of it without being shocking and, you know, jarring.
• 35:02
  So I I, you know, wanted to report things.
• 35:04
  She was like, oh my god.
• 35:05
  You you have to change this.
• 35:08
  This is a little extreme.
• 35:10
  You might hear your people.
• 35:11
  You know?
• 35:12
  So I'm like, okay.
• 35:13
  So I went through a lot of rewrite on the book to to take it deeper to, you know, make it more
• 35:19
  succinct, to make it more concrete, and bring the language in.
• 35:23
  So it was a a really good learning process, for me all the way through that.
• 35:29
  And and I'm very proud of it.
• 35:31
  It's it's a very good
• 35:33
  It's like it's like your baby.
• 35:34
  Right?
• 35:35
  Like, I mean, I remember when I wrote mine, it's like, you know, you're like, oh my god.
• 35:39
  I mean, you're, you know, you
• 35:40
  get your book Roxanne you're, like, opening it up and you're like, oh my goodness.
• 35:44
  This has actually happened.
• 35:45
  It's it's it's such a process and such an achievement.
• 35:48
  Right?
• 35:48
  Like, obviously and then like you said, you know, if someone were to kind of hear the
• 35:53
  brand, they would think that sensationalism, but it's not.
• 35:56
  Right?
• 35:56
  And I think to do it well, to your points, you had to and then you had to take care of
• 36:02
  yourself too, right, because
• 36:03
  how
• 36:03
  much of this, really, do you wanna share with the world?
• 36:07
  Right?
• 36:07
  And I'm sure there's parts of it that it's nobody's business.
• 36:10
  Right?
• 36:11
  And then if it if it marries into, some of the great things that you shared, that you share
• 36:16
  with your coaching clients.
• 36:17
  And when you speak, that's a whole other thing because that now you're giving back a gift of a
• 36:23
  concept that most people won't you know, obviously, they'll probably read about it like
• 36:28
  we said, but they may not experience it, but to a lesser degree having, someone be so open
• 36:35
  about the strengths of it because oftentimes, we may not look at it as from a strength based.
• 36:42
  Yeah.
• 36:43
  Yeah.
• 36:43
  It's it takes it takes courage to to share your story.
• 36:47
  You know, it's it's pretty easy to write.
• 36:48
  Actually, this is my second book.
• 36:49
  The first book was very easy.
• 36:51
  I It's a book of tools.
• 36:53
  Right?
• 36:53
  It's a pay today book of tools.
• 36:55
  Really easy.
• 36:56
  I I wasn't risking anything.
• 36:58
  This one, I have risked so much.
• 37:01
  You know, in some of the stories, as I, like you said, associating them, I'm like, wow.
• 37:04
  Okay.
• 37:04
  People are actually going to read this.
• 37:06
  Aren't you?
• 37:06
  Like, want them to know this.
• 37:08
  Right.
• 37:09
  Right.
• 37:09
  But there was a there's a point to all of the stories.
• 37:13
  I don't share them just to be, you know, hitting that.
• 37:17
  Oh, look.
• 37:18
  That's sensational.
• 37:19
  Right.
• 37:19
  For sure.
• 37:20
  Yeah.
• 37:20
  And I'm I'm sure you've been asked, lots of different interesting questions about the book.
• 37:26
  What's one of the most interesting questions that you've I've been asked about the book that
• 37:30
  you can think of?
• 37:31
  I think we've kind of touched on a lot of it because you know, people are fascinated with
• 37:35
  the story.
• 37:36
  And and it's always it amazes me how many people say to me, were you actually a
• 37:41
  Dominoatrix?
• 37:42
  Right?
• 37:43
  They're like, were you actually, I'm like, people would fake this.
• 37:46
  Like, I'm gonna put this out here just because, like, I, like,
• 37:51
  I'm not sure and I'm not sure you can fake that because I can't take it.
• 37:55
  Like, really and you asset of me, like, I don't know.
• 37:57
  So that that's kind of funny.
• 37:59
  Plus, why would you go for a topic.
• 38:01
  I mean, I I can't even boost a post on Facebook because it's got the word dominatrix.
• 38:06
  Right?
• 38:06
  So there are a lot of challenges with this.
• 38:08
  I don't think Oh,
• 38:08
  is it?
• 38:09
  Wow.
• 38:10
  Yeah.
• 38:10
  I I hadn't thought about that until recently, but I was like, oh, great.
• 38:15
  But, yeah, that that that's that's one that always surprises me.
• 38:19
  Were you actually is like, yes.
• 38:20
  I was actually because apparently, who was it?
• 38:24
  Gloria Steinnam.
• 38:26
  She was a a stripper very, very briefly.
• 38:29
  And apparently, she wrote a book about being a stripper.
• 38:32
  And so somebody referenced that and she said, you know, were you actually a Dominatrix, or
• 38:37
  was it, like, with Gloria Steinham?
• 38:38
  She was a stripper for 5 minutes and then wrote a book about it.
• 38:40
  And I'm like, no.
• 38:42
  I've integrated this.
• 38:43
  Don't worry.
• 38:47
  You know, what I what I find fascinating and even away from the business perspective, more
• 38:52
  on the story perspective, you know, that so many people have stories, right, and they're so
• 38:57
  afraid to tell to tell them.
• 39:01
  Right?
• 39:03
  If someone's listening and they have a story, Dana, and you know, they're thinking, oh my
• 39:10
  god.
• 39:10
  I don't know.
• 39:11
  It's, you know, I may tip what would people think all that.
• 39:15
  I'm sure you went to all those iterations of
• 39:18
  that.
• 39:18
  Absolutely.
• 39:19
  Yeah.
• 39:19
  I know.
• 39:20
  What would
• 39:20
  you what would you tell them?
• 39:23
  Is there a process you went through before you decided, or what kind of advice would you give
• 39:27
  to someone to say if you're gonna make it a difference you know, I'm sure that was the
• 39:32
  biggest thing to make a difference in the world.
• 39:34
  Absolutely.
• 39:35
  And and I'd say if you're if you're planning on sharing your story, so either through a book or
• 39:39
  on the stage or, you know, even in a group setting and and you're wanting the story to
• 39:45
  make an impact.
• 39:47
  A, you need to be done with your story.
• 39:49
  You you need to be over it and so that you can tell the story without reliving it and becoming
• 39:56
  highly emotional.
• 39:57
  So you need to be through it and you need to be through it in a way that you see the gifts that
• 40:02
  have come from it.
• 40:03
  So, you know, in my in my story, you know, I have had sexual abuse in my past.
• 40:09
  And I have gotten to the point where I see the gift I would not be the coach and the healer
• 40:16
  that I am today.
• 40:17
  If it wasn't for that, I would have loved to have gotten the gift a different way.
• 40:22
  But I see the gifts of it.
• 40:24
  So you have to be that far along that you can look back and go, wow.
• 40:29
  What a gift?
• 40:31
  When you're at that point, it'll be easier for you to tell your story because you have to take
• 40:35
  people through the whole journey to the healing, to the outcome.
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  And, you know, and then and then I would really encourage people if you're gonna go
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  professional with it, speaking, or writing, work with somebody.
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  Get somebody to help you craft that message and pull out what is it about your story?
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  I mean, I've had, I think 4 different Speaker trainers at this point helped me with the
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  messaging, helped me with, you know, my performance.
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  And I've worked with book coaches and writing coaches to help me craft all of this.
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  And because when you're really up close and personal with it, especially when it's a a
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  painful story, you need that objective perspective.
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  And you need the objective perspective that can say, what if you tell it this way?
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  Well, you know, I I don't know if you know this about me, but I work with complex PS PTSD.
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  It's one of my specialties.
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  And I could truly tell you that you saying that it's a gift.
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  Will touch a lot of people's lives because of so many people that I have worked with or, It
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  it impacts things at such a profound level.
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  Right?
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  Yeah.
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  So to be able to get to how you can look back as a gift.
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  It shows, like, how much you have, put it into perspective because that's not who you were.
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  It's something that happened to you, and it takes a lot.
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  And so many, women in the world have experiences, of course, with everything that
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  has come out, So I think that, you know, itself, saying that it's a gift shows me the
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  the extent of your healing and where you have worked through it.
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  And then you're writing through it again.
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  Yes.
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  So being able to care for yourself is gonna trigger things.
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  But to be honest, so, you know, concurrently, you're you're obviously, you come first if you
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  I mean, what's the book or the brand or all those things if there's no Dana, So Right.
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  Doing that in a in a I would say a kind caring way for yourself first, really is the part that
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  I see as being, so important, which, obviously, you've done that.
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  Thank you so much.
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  I really appreciate you honoring that.
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  Yeah.
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  I know.
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  Because I, you know, like I said, being one of my specialties and seeing, the impact of it on
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  people just even people listening to this that have been touched, and we know Absolutely.
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  So how many people that, you know, itself, I think if you when you talk more about it and
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  people recognize it, that gift that you give people to recognize that anything is you are
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  not defined from what happened.
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  You can you can rise out of it and create something like this.
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  So I think that's, thank you for thank you for sharing that.
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  Yeah.
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  And I just wanna, you know, for the listener that it's like if you're not at the point where
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  this could possibly be a gift, whatever your story is, Don't rush it.
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  Mhmm.
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  Keep doing healing work, and it comes naturally.
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  It's not something you force It's not something you have to impose on yourself.
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  It comes from that deeper level healing, and and it just bubbles up where it's like, wow.
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  If I didn't have that happen, I wouldn't have been able to do X Y Z.
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  And and it's, you know, it's there whenever it comes.
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  You have control to decide how it's how it's gonna go.
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  Yeah.
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  And you decide when when and if it comes out in the world.
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  Mhmm.
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  Now, Dana, I'm sure everybody has a lot of questions, and people will probably wanna
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  connect with you and, you know, where to get the book, all those things, or even, if
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  there's, where people can reach you for speaking events.
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  So why don't you tell everybody where they can, find the book and if they need to reach out to
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  you for either coaching or speaking where they can do that.
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  Thank you.
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  I think the best resource is innerdominatrix.com.
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  That'll get you the book.
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  It'll get you links to, you know, a bunch of resources, free resources, tons of freebies.
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  And then anything you need as far as contacting me for speaking or coaching is available there
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  as well.
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  Awesome.
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  It's been a pleasure.
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  Now I, you know, I know I know more, right, other than our flashes that we see in our
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  meetings that I know I know we'll be in a meeting again next week.
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  So, you know, again, time, I I do a podcast.
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  I gain.
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  And and today, I can honestly say that, Mindset is everything.
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  And I think in the business world, we hear it all the time, but this takes it to a different
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  profound level in my opinion.
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  Because it really takes something that scares a living but Jesus all of a lot of people and
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  looks at the strength that it it creates when you take control over where you see things in
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  your life, especially as women.
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  And then, you know, deferring that I'm not good enough, I can't do it.
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  That's not for me.
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  To really get into that whole mindset or that model that Dan is talking about, you know, I'm
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  impressed, you know, to be able to walk in with that confidence which takes so many of us so
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  long to be able to achieve, really, as we go.
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  So, Dana, thank you again for being with us.
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  And, for anyone, wanting to get a hold of Dana, please go ahead, like she said, with her
• 45:51
  contact information.
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  Myself, if you're wanting more, information on authenticity, and getting connected to yourself
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  and in relationship, you can go to roxanderhodge.comforward/blueprint where you
• 46:05
  could download a free course.
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  So take care, everyone, and we'll chat with you soon.
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  Take care, Dana.
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  Thanks Roxanne.
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  Okay.
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  healthy change.
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