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- 0:11Speaker 3: The World's a Pigeon Podcast.
- 0:17Speaker 4: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.
- 0:22Speaker 3: Fred as a tennis bro. Have you gotten behind the
- 0:24Speaker 3: pickleball trend?
- 0:25Speaker 4: No?
- 0:25Speaker 3: No, hard no, no, it's an abomination. I hate pickleball.
- 0:30Speaker 3: It sucks.
- 0:31Speaker 5: I am planning tonight to hit up Almos and get
- 0:33Speaker 5: a make up steak.
- 0:34Speaker 2: I'm going solo.
- 0:36Speaker 1: I don't know if I'll do whatever I gotta do.
- 0:38Speaker 1: I'm gonna go stuff my fat face with a steak.
- 0:40Speaker 3: Any coffee shop incidents with media members ring each other,
- 0:44Speaker 3: anything like that going on.
- 0:46Speaker 6: That was That was like the big story last year.
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- 1:07Speaker 6: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered.
- 1:09Speaker 3: It is Tuesday here at Chills Stadium.
- 1:12Speaker 2: And the Gang's back from Indy.
- 1:15Speaker 3: Evan and Deuce, we're going to talk about their experience
- 1:19Speaker 3: at the combine. We'll talk about what they learned, what
- 1:23Speaker 3: their highlights were, what their low lights were. We'll also
- 1:26Speaker 3: talk about what NFL news is happening around the league.
- 1:30Speaker 3: There was a not a big trade, but a significant
- 1:33Speaker 3: trade yesterday with the Texans and the Lions.
- 1:36Speaker 6: Talk a little bit about that.
- 1:38Speaker 3: Free agency opens up on the eleventh, Tampering opens up
- 1:42Speaker 3: on the ninth. So wats to go over here on
- 1:46Speaker 3: a off Today?
- 1:47Speaker 4: Is today the deadline for franchises. You got another another
- 1:50Speaker 4: franchise tag sign today, well, not signed, but tagged. Breese Halls,
- 1:55Speaker 4: Jeta yet.
- 1:57Speaker 3: Off season stuff to get at here, Patriots Unfiltered. It's Evan,
- 2:01Speaker 3: it's Paul, it's me, it's Deuce, it's Alex and the booth.
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- 2:12Speaker 3: So let's get right into it. Evan, Induce, you're back
- 2:16Speaker 3: from Indy. What were your highlight?
- 2:19Speaker 5: Almost steak of course, shout out there. So we got
- 2:24Speaker 5: to start with the food, right, That's what every want? Sure,
- 2:26Speaker 5: The breakfast as well a good breakfast. As far as
- 2:30Speaker 5: football though, I would just say the edge group. I
- 2:32Speaker 5: think there's a lot of different, really intriguing players there
- 2:36Speaker 5: that the Patriots could definitely use that had that Mike
- 2:38Speaker 5: Rabel style. That was a conversation I had a lot
- 2:41Speaker 5: and Indy was, you know, Mike Abel player like you
- 2:44Speaker 5: just we.
- 2:44Speaker 1: Didn't know exactly what that was last year.
- 2:46Speaker 7: Now you have a.
- 2:46Speaker 5: Pretty good sense of it, and I think there's a
- 2:48Speaker 5: number of guys that that could help in positions in
- 2:51Speaker 5: the not just edge but also tight end.
- 2:53Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 2:53Speaker 2: I think on the along those lines. This draft, I
- 2:57Speaker 2: feel like, before I really started to dive into it,
- 2:59Speaker 2: kind of had a bad rap for being a weak
- 3:02Speaker 2: draft class because at the top it's maybe not as strong.
- 3:05Speaker 2: It's not a quarterback draft outside of Mendoza, so you
- 3:09Speaker 2: don't have a ton of blue chippers, you know, in
- 3:12Speaker 2: a draft like this. But I think this is one
- 3:14Speaker 2: of those like real draft nerds kind of drafts because
- 3:17Speaker 2: it goes deep at several positions and I think you're
- 3:20Speaker 2: gonna see starters come out of the third, fourth, maybe
- 3:24Speaker 2: even into the fifth round at certain positions just to
- 3:27Speaker 2: add a depth, you know, type positions on the defense,
- 3:31Speaker 2: especially like Mike mentioned, edge, linebacker, safety, corner, tight end,
- 3:36Speaker 2: wide reliever. Yeah, they're they're just depth really into probably
- 3:41Speaker 2: early day three. I'm not saying that they're gonna be
- 3:44Speaker 2: like game changers, but you know there's gonna be guys
- 3:47Speaker 2: that get to that point in those positions specifically that
- 3:52Speaker 2: I think are gonna be you know, interior offensive line,
- 3:54Speaker 2: great center, and guard draft this year. You know, so
- 3:58Speaker 2: like that that's distraints now, is that the sex seed
- 4:02Speaker 2: There's six blue Chippers up at the top and everybody's
- 4:05Speaker 2: like going for them. No, but I think that there's
- 4:07Speaker 2: probably more depth in the draft than I gave it
- 4:09Speaker 2: credit for before I really started to dive.
- 4:11Speaker 6: Good draft to not be looking for quarterback.
- 4:14Speaker 8: Good draft, to not be looking for a quarterback.
- 4:17Speaker 2: Good draft. If you don't need a running back, it's
- 4:18Speaker 2: a terrible Outside of Jeremiah Love, the running backs are
- 4:21Speaker 2: not great. You know, those positions are a little bit weaker.
- 4:27Speaker 2: You know, like I said, I don't know if there's
- 4:30Speaker 2: the top end talent, the blue chip type talent, but
- 4:33Speaker 2: I think that there's a lot of depth at certain
- 4:36Speaker 2: positions that the good evaluators are going to find starters,
- 4:39Speaker 2: you know, in the fourth round in a draft like this.
- 4:42Speaker 5: Yeah, that's also some players that are good atop the
- 4:46Speaker 5: draft aren't really the premium positions too.
- 4:47Speaker 1: I think that's what hurts it. But another year where.
- 4:50Speaker 5: Guys just test out of the roof, I mean it's
- 4:52Speaker 5: just amazing.
- 4:53Speaker 2: The Yeah, we can talk about that. I mean there's
- 4:55Speaker 2: some survivor bias there, Like there's only about a thirty
- 4:59Speaker 2: seven percent and participation rate. So all these players, all
- 5:03Speaker 2: these kids are getting you know, advised, like if you're
- 5:07Speaker 2: going to test poorly, then just don't test right and
- 5:09Speaker 2: and just kind of say, hey watch my tape.
- 5:12Speaker 3: You know. So well, they do get tested at the
- 5:15Speaker 3: private one on once, right they are.
- 5:18Speaker 2: Pro days, but like yeah they do, but those are
- 5:22Speaker 2: all hand times and it's just different.
- 5:25Speaker 3: Well even be on the pro day if the you know,
- 5:27Speaker 3: every team has allowed a certain amount of players to
- 5:30Speaker 3: come to their facility, do they put them on a
- 5:33Speaker 3: vertical No, No, they don't do that.
- 5:36Speaker 2: No, they'll measure them and they'll weigh them, but not
- 5:39Speaker 2: you know, the combine type stuff happens either at the
- 5:42Speaker 2: combine or the prode drill or no. No, they will
- 5:46Speaker 2: do private workouts or they'll put them through football stuff,
- 5:49Speaker 2: you know, like Rabele going down to LSU last year
- 5:52Speaker 2: and working out Will Campbell, but forty times and things
- 5:55Speaker 2: like that is this time of year and uh, you know,
- 5:58Speaker 2: the participation rate is really at the combine.
- 6:02Speaker 8: The even teams sending people is starting.
- 6:05Speaker 6: To Yeah, I got I hurt back. Like a lot
- 6:09Speaker 6: of teams are just skipping the combine.
- 6:11Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's not a ton, but you know,
- 6:13Speaker 2: half a dozen maybe this year, and so you're just
- 6:17Speaker 2: getting to the point now where the only guys that
- 6:19Speaker 2: are testing are the guys that are going to run well.
- 6:22Speaker 2: And if you're not going to run well, then you
- 6:24Speaker 2: don't test. So you know you have that sort of
- 6:26Speaker 2: thing going on.
- 6:27Speaker 3: The averages are going up, correct, Yeah, yeah.
- 6:31Speaker 6: All right, Well what does that mean for the future
- 6:33Speaker 6: of the combine? If thirty seven.
- 6:36Speaker 3: Only participating, that number is probably going to go down.
- 6:40Speaker 3: And you know, I don't know what the percentage is,
- 6:43Speaker 3: but there's a handful of teams not even with a presence.
- 6:47Speaker 2: What does that mean for the event? Yeah, it's a
- 6:49Speaker 2: that's sort of another question I think, just you know,
- 6:52Speaker 2: in terms of big picture coming out of Indy that
- 6:55Speaker 2: that's on my mind is just.
- 6:56Speaker 8: You know, what's the future look like at the combine?
- 6:58Speaker 8: Is it reimagined?
- 7:00Speaker 2: Is there a way to incentivize the players to actually test,
- 7:03Speaker 2: you know what, what can they do to make that happen?
- 7:06Speaker 2: Because as of right now, they're at, like I said,
- 7:09Speaker 2: a thirty seven percent participation rate. But that's not even
- 7:13Speaker 2: them participating in all the drills, right that, Like the agilities,
- 7:18Speaker 2: like nobody does the agilities anymore, Like you don't the
- 7:21Speaker 2: I think one running back ran a three code. One
- 7:25Speaker 2: running back out of the entire class ran a three code.
- 7:28Speaker 2: And it's like if you look at the predictive stuff,
- 7:32Speaker 2: but the agilities in a lot of positions, you know,
- 7:35Speaker 2: edge rusher, you know, places like that. That's maybe the
- 7:38Speaker 2: most important drill out of all of them is how
- 7:40Speaker 2: they change directions and how quick they are, you know,
- 7:43Speaker 2: in terms of sinking their hips and you know that
- 7:45Speaker 2: sort of thing. And these players it's at the very
- 7:48Speaker 2: end of the workout they opt out, they don't do it.
- 7:51Speaker 2: So you know, there's even drills within the drills that
- 7:54Speaker 2: are that players are cutting. So we're seeing all these
- 7:57Speaker 2: like athleticism testing numbers and all these score and stuff
- 8:00Speaker 2: like that. And it's like just the forty and the
- 8:02Speaker 2: jumps and there's no agility. Well, it's it's great to
- 8:05Speaker 2: know that that guy's explosive, but like can he move?
- 8:07Speaker 2: Like can he cut? Can he you know? Can he
- 8:09Speaker 2: change directions? We you know, based off the combine numbers
- 8:13Speaker 2: at least you don't know. Interesting.
- 8:15Speaker 3: But the big scandal down there is, yeah, Robin Coventry
- 8:19Speaker 3: writes in can someone please mention the outrageous flirting that
- 8:23Speaker 3: occurred during Mike's chat with Cynthia Freeland at the Combine?
- 8:27Speaker 3: There might be in Boston, but it's hot and India,
- 8:30Speaker 3: So what's going on here?
- 8:31Speaker 2: I don't know about multiple people's.
- 8:33Speaker 5: Really Yeah, this is the first time hearing of it.
- 8:35Speaker 5: I'm a little say you were involved, Well, I wasn't
- 8:38Speaker 5: aware of that. We were having a moment.
- 8:41Speaker 1: She liked my Boston accent, which is like, I don't know, you.
- 8:43Speaker 2: Don't really have a hard Boston.
- 8:44Speaker 5: I don't know, I didn't accent. In my defense, I
- 8:49Speaker 5: was noticing she was going around to the different teams
- 8:53Speaker 5: and she was hugging it out with everybody.
- 8:55Speaker 1: She came right in. I'm like, oh, we're hugging. I
- 8:57Speaker 1: didn't ever met you in my life.
- 8:58Speaker 5: But she gave me a hug right off the bat,
- 9:00Speaker 5: so maybe that set the tone, but uh, that was
- 9:02Speaker 5: it was fun.
- 9:03Speaker 4: Guys have been back for two days. This is the
- 9:04Speaker 4: first time. This is the first time you hear number
- 9:06Speaker 4: tuba hugs.
- 9:08Speaker 3: That's why I was a little just so you could
- 9:09Speaker 3: do that. I mean, Walter and Melroe same thing. Do
- 9:12Speaker 3: some and Cynthia Freedom. We're definitely flirting during that interview
- 9:15Speaker 3: for what's going on.
- 9:17Speaker 5: I'd like to think I just give good interview and
- 9:19Speaker 5: it seems like why couldn't they said I was flirting
- 9:22Speaker 5: with Rabel.
- 9:22Speaker 4: That was I'm sure you did that too.
- 9:26Speaker 1: There were some screenshots with me with Rabel.
- 9:28Speaker 5: You know, I think I just like she was grabbing it,
- 9:31Speaker 5: like look at you, and I'm just like, but deuce on.
- 9:35Speaker 1: The loose now.
- 9:37Speaker 5: It was It was fun though. We got to talk
- 9:38Speaker 5: to a number of people. I mean, you know, the
- 9:40Speaker 5: big one was Tony Kinkeller. We got to talk to
- 9:42Speaker 5: him for the first time. Really good Wazoo guy. You know,
- 9:47Speaker 5: just I always enjoy talking to the guys actually on
- 9:49Speaker 5: the inside and you know, getting to make these decisions.
- 9:52Speaker 5: So it was interesting getting talked to me he took
- 9:54Speaker 5: over Cam Williams this.
- 9:55Speaker 1: Year, so that was good, but no.
- 9:57Speaker 5: My biggest disappointment though, of the Combine, and I was
- 9:59Speaker 5: telling the boys here was I was killing some time
- 10:02Speaker 5: on Friday before coming back at the at the workouts,
- 10:04Speaker 5: and Jack Hughes was standing right there waiting to go
- 10:07Speaker 5: on McAfee, and I'm, you know, a lifelong hockey guy,
- 10:09Speaker 5: and you know, he still got the teeth out, and
- 10:11Speaker 5: all I can think of what a picture of that is,
- 10:13Speaker 5: you know, get a pick with this kid. But I
- 10:15Speaker 5: chickened out and I didn't get one. So that's my
- 10:17Speaker 5: biggest regret of the combine, not getting a picking.
- 10:21Speaker 4: At the Common.
- 10:21Speaker 5: He literally flew in to go on McAfee, and so
- 10:24Speaker 5: I happened to walk in right as he was just
- 10:26Speaker 5: you know, hanging around with this.
- 10:27Speaker 1: You know a few different people.
- 10:28Speaker 8: Done that over Zoom.
- 10:30Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 10:30Speaker 6: I know, I give him credit as I hate Zoom.
- 10:32Speaker 5: Didn't he play last night because I think he had
- 10:34Speaker 5: a game the night before in New Jersey, and I'm like,
- 10:36Speaker 5: holy crap. Like I was saying to Ev, I'm like,
- 10:39Speaker 5: you're so used to looking at all these NFL prospects
- 10:42Speaker 5: and all of a sudden you see a kid who's
- 10:43Speaker 5: like five ten one sixty five and elite professional athlete there.
- 10:47Speaker 5: You know, it's it's pretty striking.
- 10:49Speaker 6: But there was one wide receiver was five to six.
- 10:52Speaker 1: Yeah, the combine the little guys.
- 10:53Speaker 4: Yeah, so that would be my question. You guys talked
- 10:56Speaker 4: a lot about some of the deeper positions and one
- 11:00Speaker 4: position that we haven't really discussed at all, as wide receiver.
- 11:02Speaker 4: I'm just curious what your your thoughts were, both of
- 11:05Speaker 4: you on that On that group.
- 11:07Speaker 2: I'm excited about that group, honestly. I think there's a
- 11:10Speaker 2: lot of depth in that group too. And again, like
- 11:13Speaker 2: I think that when you don't have like you know,
- 11:16Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison junior Malik Neighbors type of prospect that's kind
- 11:20Speaker 2: of anchoring the whole thing. Is like this is the
- 11:23Speaker 2: prize of the draft, and you start to get a
- 11:25Speaker 2: little bit of you know, it's not a great receiver class,
- 11:28Speaker 2: but uh, there's there's a lot of good receivers I
- 11:31Speaker 2: think in this class. Now the question is, you know
- 11:34Speaker 2: who among those kind of Day two group has a
- 11:38Speaker 2: ceiling to them that is going to actually move.
- 11:40Speaker 8: The needle for a team like the Patriots.
- 11:42Speaker 2: Like I think that there's probably a lot of guys
- 11:44Speaker 2: that are going to be NFL receivers out of this class.
- 11:47Speaker 2: But is there one in particular that you're looking at
- 11:50Speaker 2: and you're like, Okay, that guy has the potential to
- 11:52Speaker 2: be a number one receiver and not just part of
- 11:55Speaker 2: a receiver room in the NFL. I think that there's
- 11:57Speaker 2: a lot of guys that are probably gonna have nice
- 11:59Speaker 2: careers in the league in this group, I'm not sure
- 12:01Speaker 2: if there's a lot of guys that are going to
- 12:02Speaker 2: be stud number one, you know, uh, move the needle
- 12:07Speaker 2: type of guys.
- 12:08Speaker 5: Kind of what your flavor is too. You know, do
- 12:10Speaker 5: you want a big guy like Malechi Fields was one
- 12:15Speaker 5: off the list, Yeah, Denzel Boston, you know, not Evans.
- 12:19Speaker 4: Because they'll be gone.
- 12:20Speaker 8: No, because he ran a four six.
- 12:21Speaker 5: Now he's slow, you know, And so there's big guys
- 12:24Speaker 5: who are slow.
- 12:25Speaker 1: And I mean, I know you liked what's his face?
- 12:27Speaker 5: Brazzle? Yes, who's a tall, fast guy. You know, there's
- 12:30Speaker 5: a lot of shifty guys. You know, Makay Lemon probably gone.
- 12:34Speaker 5: But I think it's it's it's tough. It's like looking
- 12:36Speaker 5: what's going to fit the Patriots best? What are they
- 12:38Speaker 5: what kind of receiver do they need. It's easy to
- 12:40Speaker 5: say they need a number one, but those can come
- 12:42Speaker 5: in different packages. They can be uncoverable guys who can
- 12:46Speaker 5: line up anywhere, or they can be big outside receivers
- 12:48Speaker 5: that you're hoping can can break some runs and you know,
- 12:51Speaker 5: not just be big body downfield contest to catch guys.
- 12:54Speaker 5: So I think that's what I'm trying to sort out
- 12:56Speaker 5: right now, is like to Evan's point, who not only
- 12:59Speaker 5: who has that potential maybe on day two three.
- 13:01Speaker 1: I mean, I'm still a big fan.
- 13:02Speaker 5: I'd almost always take a wide receiver in there and
- 13:04Speaker 5: try to continue to develop that position.
- 13:07Speaker 1: But it's what's the body type? What are you looking for?
- 13:09Speaker 5: I mean, I know a lot of people like Omar
- 13:11Speaker 5: Cooper Junior and I was one and a lot of
- 13:12Speaker 5: a lot of probably a big riser, I guess you.
- 13:14Speaker 1: Would say, coming out of the combine. So it's just
- 13:17Speaker 1: it's like flavor, It's it's tough.
- 13:19Speaker 5: I mean, especially where like I said, it's not a
- 13:21Speaker 5: lot of separation from these guys. It's going to really
- 13:23Speaker 5: come down to what the teams prefer, and that's something
- 13:25Speaker 5: you don't really get from these mock drafts. It's you're
- 13:28Speaker 5: going through making the mock draft rather than you know,
- 13:30Speaker 5: this team's really going to want this guy. You know,
- 13:32Speaker 5: hard to know until they are.
- 13:33Speaker 3: So when do the pro days start in the private visits?
- 13:37Speaker 7: Yeah?
- 13:37Speaker 8: Pro days will be after free agency?
- 13:39Speaker 2: Yeah, most team after the eleventh Yeah, most teams now
- 13:42Speaker 2: are you know, turned to the pro side and started
- 13:44Speaker 2: focusing on free agency. So we'll get like pro days
- 13:47Speaker 2: towards the end of March. I was actually just talking
- 13:49Speaker 2: to our friend Lucas the BC's Pro days on the
- 13:52Speaker 2: twenty third.
- 13:52Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 13:52Speaker 2: Yeah, so like right in that area is probably where
- 13:57Speaker 2: you know they'll they'll start doing that kind of stuff.
- 13:59Speaker 2: And then after the pro days come the private visits
- 14:02Speaker 2: and you know, the early April time of the year,
- 14:04Speaker 2: so that will happen then. But yeah, the wide receiver
- 14:07Speaker 2: position in deuces right, a lot of different body types,
- 14:11Speaker 2: skill sets, you know. I keep gravitating towards the you know,
- 14:15Speaker 2: bigger frames, you know, the guys on the outside that
- 14:18Speaker 2: you know, six three six' four type of receivers BECAUSE
- 14:20Speaker 2: i just look at How drake maythru to guys Like
- 14:23Speaker 2: Mac collins last, year And i'm, LIKE i just kind
- 14:25Speaker 2: of feel like you could get like a more, explosive
- 14:28Speaker 2: younger version Of Mac. Collins like that sort of feels
- 14:31Speaker 2: like the right type of, receiver especially if you're gonna
- 14:34Speaker 2: Bring digs back and have him be sort of the inside.
- 14:37Speaker 2: Guy you, know it really gets somebody on the outside
- 14:40Speaker 2: that can take the top off the defense and that
- 14:42Speaker 2: has a catch radius and has some size to. Him
- 14:45Speaker 2: that's Why i've gravitated Towards brasel so, much is because
- 14:48Speaker 2: he's six,' four ran a four to, three seven, you
- 14:51Speaker 2: know has that big, catch radius explosive guy on. The outside,
- 14:55Speaker 2: you know that just seems, like maybe, YOU know i
- 14:58Speaker 2: saw a mock draft today that had them TAKE a
- 15:00Speaker 2: conceptsi Owned FROM texas a and m was a really.
- 15:02Speaker 2: Fun player but that's like a shifty. Slot GUY and
- 15:05Speaker 2: i just don't know, if that, you know he's bigger
- 15:07Speaker 2: than Like A. Pop douglas he's like, five ten, Five
- 15:09Speaker 2: ELEVEN but i don't know if that's really the skill
- 15:13Speaker 2: set that fits. The quarterback it might be the skill
- 15:16Speaker 2: set that fits the, offense historically but is that really
- 15:19Speaker 2: the type of Receiver That drake may wants to? Throw to,
- 15:23Speaker 2: YOU Know A zakari Branch. From georgia he's like a
- 15:27Speaker 2: five foot Eight Pop douglas. Flowers, clone yeah is that
- 15:32Speaker 2: really the type of Receiver that drake may likes? Working with,
- 15:35Speaker 2: you KNOW like i think that that's a question, that
- 15:38Speaker 2: YEAH because i didn't include him on, my LIST and
- 15:40Speaker 2: i got some people that asked me like why why
- 15:42Speaker 2: didn't You Include Branch and i'm like a five foot eight,
- 15:45Speaker 2: Slot receiver like why didn't we just kind of try
- 15:47Speaker 2: to do this and it didn't.
- 15:48Speaker 8: Really work like.
- 15:49Speaker 5: It's kind of one of those things of like it's
- 15:50Speaker 5: A historical patriots thing where, you're, like well we need that.
- 15:53Speaker 1: SHIFTY slot I mean.
- 15:54Speaker 4: I might, a LOT but i. Understand, everything yeah he's
- 15:57Speaker 4: got a.
- 15:57Speaker 2: Little bit more size.
- 15:58Speaker 4: To him.
- 15:59Speaker 2: You Know Omar cooper junior obviously is a very popular
- 16:02Speaker 2: name that might have been like a late first, round
- 16:05Speaker 2: pick early second.
- 16:06Speaker 8: Round pick, but again, you know.
- 16:08Speaker 2: Five, 't, ten shifty good, route, runner strong, you know
- 16:13Speaker 2: body control and, contact balance but like not the catch
- 16:18Speaker 2: radius that you're, looking for not.
- 16:20Speaker 4: The size so he might be the bigger guy in
- 16:22Speaker 4: that one would be, his teammate his. College, TEAMMATES yeah
- 16:26Speaker 4: i really like Maybe a day, two, Guy, right yeah
- 16:29Speaker 4: you know.
- 16:29Speaker 2: You have concerns about his top end speed with my
- 16:32Speaker 2: dri good. For you so you Know who serrat reminds
- 16:34Speaker 2: me a Lot Of.
- 16:35Speaker 1: WESTERNATIONAL championship i watched the.
- 16:38Speaker 2: Whole season he's got A Little jacobe myers to, his
- 16:40Speaker 2: game where he's kind of got this like craftiness, to
- 16:43Speaker 2: him and he's GOT this iq where you he knows
- 16:46Speaker 2: how to get open and you can tell that he
- 16:48Speaker 2: sort of understands the technique and the nuances of. The
- 16:51Speaker 2: position there was just concerns about his his top end
- 16:54Speaker 2: speed and his ability to run. By people and then
- 16:57Speaker 2: he didn't run, the forty so that tells me that
- 16:59Speaker 2: his top end speed ain't. So good so you know
- 17:01Speaker 2: that that's maybe a little bit of a concern. With
- 17:04Speaker 2: him but if you're looking for a guy that's kind
- 17:06Speaker 2: of just smooth and gets open and has a, you
- 17:09Speaker 2: know a good size to him for that type of,
- 17:11Speaker 2: skill set, you know he's to me kind of a
- 17:14Speaker 2: Lot Like jacobe.
- 17:15Speaker 3: Myers was in terms Of the patriots staff scouting, and
- 17:19Speaker 3: coaching what will you say their, mood was UH mood
- 17:24Speaker 3: i would stay excited for.
- 17:26Speaker 5: Next, year, yeah yeah that was that was the Biggest
- 17:30Speaker 5: takeaway i'd have.
- 17:31Speaker 1: FROM conversations i saw.
- 17:32Speaker 3: One video It was rabel Walking and, evan Trailing and
- 17:38Speaker 3: rabel said something to You like evan's.
- 17:41Speaker 4: Like yeah.
- 17:44Speaker 2: So first, Of all first, Of all deuce kind of
- 17:47Speaker 2: threw us under the bus with the question that He
- 17:49Speaker 2: asked brabel and, was, like oh we don't really get
- 17:52Speaker 2: to talk. To You and rabel, WAS like i do
- 17:53Speaker 2: a press conferences multiple times, a week and and THEN
- 17:56Speaker 2: like i, was like, YOU know.
- 17:58Speaker 6: I saw that when the two of you was. Sitting, down,
- 18:00Speaker 6: yeah right.
- 18:00Speaker 7: So this, is.
- 18:02Speaker 1: Oh this, gets like this.
- 18:04Speaker 7: Is Spread.
- 18:09Speaker 2: So i'm walking and we were walking from uh the
- 18:13Speaker 2: table where we were sitting doing the interview to the
- 18:16Speaker 2: side scrum that he did with, local media, and so,
- 18:19Speaker 2: you know being, you know the big JAY that, I
- 18:21Speaker 2: am i, was like here's thirty SECONDS that i can
- 18:23Speaker 2: talk To the Elliott or rabel and we're walking, over
- 18:26Speaker 2: there AND so i, was, like oh this will, you
- 18:28Speaker 2: know this will, be funny, like oh this will be
- 18:29Speaker 2: my my in, you know to have a conversation. With
- 18:32Speaker 2: him AND so i, WAS like i do go to
- 18:34Speaker 2: your press conferences and ask questions every once in, a
- 18:37Speaker 2: while and he was like. Very occasionally hannah, was, Like well.
- 18:41Speaker 8: I'm going to ask.
- 18:41Speaker 2: A question i wanted to be a. GOOD question i
- 18:43Speaker 2: don't want to come in there and ask, you something,
- 18:46Speaker 2: you know just to ask, you, something right, and uh
- 18:49Speaker 2: after the side scrum was over with the, local media
- 18:52Speaker 2: he stands up and he Looks At nicole yang From
- 18:54Speaker 2: The boston globe and, He, goes nicole how many questions do?
- 18:58Speaker 2: You think evan asked last Season, and Nicole and nicole.
- 19:04Speaker 1: Is like frozen, deer head like deer, in headlegs very, you.
- 19:07Speaker 2: Know classic rabel putting somebody on the spot in front.
- 19:10Speaker 2: Of Everybody and i'm Standing, behind Rabel so i'm. Giving them,
- 19:13Speaker 2: Nicole like i'm going, like high like lots lots, of
- 19:16Speaker 2: questions and she, said FIVE and i, was, LIKE oh
- 19:20Speaker 2: i asked.
- 19:21Speaker 4: Five, MORE yeah i was.
- 19:22Speaker 2: LIKE five i was killing Her four at the rest.
- 19:25Speaker 4: OF it i was, Like five like, come on ask
- 19:28Speaker 4: at least a couple of questions. Every, WEEK yeah i,
- 19:30Speaker 4: was like five.
- 19:30Speaker 8: Is crazy, but yeah that that continued throughout the.
- 19:34Speaker 1: Entire morning evan caught strays on.
- 19:36Speaker 5: That ONE and i want to apologize because it was
- 19:38Speaker 5: A way i thought into, THE interview i, pointed OUT
- 19:41Speaker 5: and i was trying to make the joke that we
- 19:42Speaker 5: don't get up early enough to talk to you during,
- 19:44Speaker 5: the SEASON because i know he hates having a, go on,
- 19:47Speaker 5: You Know greg hill at like six.
- 19:48Speaker 1: Am EVERYONE so i was just trying to have a little.
- 19:50Speaker 5: Icebreaker joke but, you Know as i'm LEARNING when i Interviewed,
- 19:54Speaker 5: rabel more you don't get to play on. Your field
- 19:57Speaker 5: he's gonna take you and where he wants. To go
- 20:00Speaker 5: and so he took it AS and i don't ask
- 20:02Speaker 5: any questions in the. Press CONFERENCES so i Felt like
- 20:04Speaker 5: evan caught the strays because then it turned into a
- 20:06Speaker 5: conversation about whether or not we asked questions ENOUGH when
- 20:09Speaker 5: i was really just trying, to say, you know. We
- 20:11Speaker 5: didn't we didn't get talk to you since, last year
- 20:13Speaker 5: and this is next time we're checking in. With you, you
- 20:15Speaker 5: know have you recovered from the you know That KIND.
- 20:17Speaker 4: And i know what you're saying too about how he'll
- 20:19Speaker 4: turn the tables like you think that you're just, making,
- 20:22Speaker 4: like oh just a, little sarcastic like, funny line but
- 20:25Speaker 4: he'll should grasp on.
- 20:26Speaker 1: To it and, YOU'RE like I didn't.
- 20:27Speaker 4: I REMEMBER when I when i talked to him to
- 20:29Speaker 4: do the. Yearbook feature there were other interviews that were
- 20:33Speaker 4: going to happen at the. SAME time i had my,
- 20:35Speaker 4: five minutes someone else was going to have their. Five
- 20:37Speaker 4: MINUTES and i was, like being, you know my, goofy
- 20:41Speaker 4: SELF and i, WAS like i hope you guys didn't
- 20:44Speaker 4: ruin it. For ME when i came in like talking
- 20:46Speaker 4: to like the, other guy like our people that were
- 20:48Speaker 4: going to be talking, to him like making, A joke,
- 20:52Speaker 4: he's like you just worry about not ruining it for yourself,
- 20:55Speaker 4: and LIKE and i, Was, LIKE okay i kind of
- 20:58Speaker 4: walked into, that one, you know but he'll always turn it.
- 21:01Speaker 4: RIGHT away i think it's funny that he's sort of
- 21:06Speaker 4: monitoring how many questions. WE ask i would think he's
- 21:09Speaker 4: thrilled that, we don't, you know bogged down the.
- 21:12Speaker 5: PRESS conference i mean he said it right at the
- 21:14Speaker 5: end of our interview. With him, he's like ask, more,
- 21:16Speaker 5: questions guys. You know so it became a whole thing.
- 21:19Speaker 3: Like sometimes, you know the questions you want to ask
- 21:22Speaker 3: aren't the questions and they want to ask.
- 21:24Speaker 4: The way evan, said IT like i can go in
- 21:26Speaker 4: there And say i'm curious about what made you Think of.
- 21:29Speaker 4: Kiris tanga i'm not going to ask. Those QUESTIONS let
- 21:34Speaker 4: i let the beat writers that are there every day
- 21:37Speaker 4: ask those. Nonsensical questions i'm not going to waste anyone's time.
- 21:41Speaker 4: With those i'm going to ask a question about something
- 21:44Speaker 4: very specific to, a game or something very specific to
- 21:47Speaker 4: a or a decision or a personnel move that may
- 21:52Speaker 4: or may not be something that we should, be, asking
- 21:54Speaker 4: right those are the Only questions i'm. Interested in, you
- 21:56Speaker 4: know you Know Why jalen Hawkins over, dougger something, you
- 22:01Speaker 4: know but that's. Very broad but like they don't want me.
- 22:05Speaker 2: Asking, That yeah so THAT'S why i plant Those, with
- 22:07Speaker 2: taylor and he Just. Obviously yeah So when, rabel said,
- 22:13Speaker 2: you know originally said how many questions do You think?
- 22:16Speaker 2: Evan ASKED and i, was, like well That's because taylor
- 22:17Speaker 2: asked them all.
- 22:18Speaker 3: For him.
- 22:20Speaker 4: And he, was like Don't.
- 22:21Speaker 2: BLAME taylor i, Was like i'm Not, blaming Taylor but i'm.
- 22:24Speaker 4: Crediting.
- 22:25Speaker 2: Him YEAH but i only ask questions if, It's pertinent
- 22:28Speaker 2: Like if i'm writing a story right and the story it,
- 22:30Speaker 2: should be and the story is only going to WORK
- 22:33Speaker 2: if i have a Quote from rabel, in There then i'll.
- 22:36Speaker 2: Ask him, You know i'm writing about the, offensive line
- 22:39Speaker 2: like what you? Know that what have you seen from
- 22:41Speaker 2: that room? This season i'm not going to go in
- 22:43Speaker 2: there and, be like so You Know ben Brown Or,
- 22:46Speaker 2: jared wilson, you, Know.
- 22:47Speaker 4: Like i'm Not gonna that's a.
- 22:49Speaker 8: Perfect time i'm, thinking It but i'm not going to.
- 22:51Speaker 4: Do it and we came out of that same, press
- 22:53Speaker 4: conference YOU and i and we both thought the same.
- 22:56Speaker 4: EXACT thing i can't Believe Because greg bdarda asked if
- 22:58Speaker 4: there was going to be any and he thought to
- 23:01Speaker 4: Sticking With. Ben brown that's absolutely a question that was on.
- 23:04Speaker 4: My MIND but i don't think that's One that Patriots
- 23:06Speaker 4: dot com should.
- 23:06Speaker 5: Be, asking YEAH so i didn't. EXPRESS conmense i gotta
- 23:10Speaker 5: go sit in the. Front row i'm going to.
- 23:12Speaker 6: JUST might i might.
- 23:14Speaker 4: TOSS bombs i might go in With.
- 23:17Speaker 1: GUNS pola i, will, say though.
- 23:23Speaker 4: You called me out last year for not asking a lot.
- 23:25Speaker 4: Of questions so why Did you ben?
- 23:28Speaker 2: STRIKE me i think it's UH WHAT i i think
- 23:33Speaker 2: some of it is probably, you, Know calculated but he
- 23:36Speaker 2: knows all of.
- 23:37Speaker 8: Our names he knows the, entire beats.
- 23:40Speaker 2: Everybody's name HE generally i think knows like what's, you're
- 23:45Speaker 2: asking what, you're writing, you know that sort.
- 23:47Speaker 7: Of.
- 23:47Speaker 2: Thing uh but when we had the local, media scrum
- 23:50Speaker 2: he he went right down the line and allowed each
- 23:53Speaker 2: person to kind of ask. One, Question, yeah, Ivan, yeah, Mike, yeah, Mark.
- 23:59Speaker 8: Yeah andrew he knew every single person's name in.
- 24:02Speaker 5: That scrub THE story i told was my first Combine
- 24:06Speaker 5: when PAUL and i. WERE there i remember we were
- 24:07Speaker 5: sitting at our. LITTLE table I mean i think there
- 24:09Speaker 5: were what four of us there at. THE time i
- 24:11Speaker 5: mean it was a, small contingent But Seeing mike frable
- 24:14Speaker 5: With the titans and he's just, you know sitting like
- 24:16Speaker 5: babel sits like with the team kick back and, you
- 24:20Speaker 5: Know and, i'm, like man can You imagine?
- 24:21Speaker 1: Bill STOPPED like i couldn't. Imagine it cut to.
- 24:24Speaker 5: This year, you know not only does he sit down
- 24:25Speaker 5: with US and i felt like we had a, pretty good,
- 24:28Speaker 5: you know growing rapport, with him but, you know just
- 24:30Speaker 5: to see how he greeted everybody that was sitting of
- 24:33Speaker 5: our team around the table and, you know kind of
- 24:35Speaker 5: Joking with cassidy and, you know it just HE'S quickly
- 24:39Speaker 5: i think that's what somebody, asked, him like what's. The difference,
- 24:41Speaker 5: HE'S like i know everybody, this year and it, was
- 24:43Speaker 5: clear especially our team around, the table that he's familiar with.
- 24:47Speaker 5: These people he felt comfortable, with us and, you know
- 24:49Speaker 5: that was the biggest thing for. THE interview i just
- 24:50Speaker 5: didn't want to do the same old thing where, it's,
- 24:52Speaker 5: cold like, you know you should start to know us a,
- 24:55Speaker 5: little BIT and i think.
- 24:56Speaker 7: We do.
- 24:56Speaker 4: Ask quch mike was kind because at that first combine
- 24:59Speaker 4: he he then got up from that and came over
- 25:01Speaker 4: and dumped on ME if. I recalled but that's, you
- 25:05Speaker 4: know that.
- 25:06Speaker 5: Is, funny THOUGH as i get to know more and
- 25:07Speaker 5: you know the story, you told, you know like him
- 25:10Speaker 5: always kind of taking something you said and he's going
- 25:12Speaker 5: to take it the way he wants to. Take it
- 25:13Speaker 5: and Thinking About pop douglass when he they asked him about,
- 25:16Speaker 5: you know it's very well and, HE'S like i, don't
- 25:17Speaker 5: KNOW sometimes i don't know if he's kidding.
- 25:19Speaker 1: Or not he keeps you on.
- 25:20Speaker 5: Your toes, you know he's just he's, incredibly likable but
- 25:23Speaker 5: at the, same time he he he's a tough nut
- 25:26Speaker 5: to crack and, so yeah he's always he can't pin,
- 25:30Speaker 5: him down like, you know, you like you can't go
- 25:32Speaker 5: into an interview with him and, be, like oh this
- 25:33Speaker 5: would be a good joke because you don't know what
- 25:35Speaker 5: he's going.
- 25:36Speaker 1: To do, you know you don't know what direction he's
- 25:37Speaker 1: going to. Take it but that's a.
- 25:38Speaker 6: Good thing he never lets.
- 25:39Speaker 1: You, lead, yeah yeah, you know he's got to take
- 25:41Speaker 1: it how he wants to.
- 25:42Speaker 4: Play, it yeah, he's in he's going to. Lead it
- 25:45Speaker 4: he's going to direct where.
- 25:46Speaker 2: You're, going yeah, that audience he's definitely the one. That's leading.
- 25:51Speaker 4: THAT'S like, i SAID and i don't even mean it
- 25:53Speaker 4: Overly disrespect sure it came off, Is Disrespectful but i'm
- 25:56Speaker 4: not interested in asking those kind of, You know THAT'S what.
- 25:58Speaker 5: I mean, you know we go to THE questions i don't,
- 26:01Speaker 5: you know come out. OF it, i mean you have
- 26:02Speaker 5: the training in the background for those kind of things
- 26:04Speaker 5: where we come out of those press conferences like nobody asked.
- 26:07Speaker 5: About This and, i'm like that's a, good point, You
- 26:08Speaker 5: KNOW like i my brain isn't really wired. THAT way,
- 26:11Speaker 5: I mean i like to go there and be attentive
- 26:12Speaker 5: and listen to what he's having. To say but, you
- 26:14Speaker 5: know and there's been times in the PAST where i,
- 26:16Speaker 5: would ask, you know. Build questions where It was i'm
- 26:18Speaker 5: working on SOMETHING and i really am very curious, about
- 26:21Speaker 5: this and no one else is going to, ask IT
- 26:22Speaker 5: so i don't KNOW when i get to. That, Point
- 26:24Speaker 5: now i'll sit up front, and ask get Right in
- 26:26Speaker 5: vrabel's face and ask.
- 26:27Speaker 4: The question and it's the.
- 26:28Speaker 2: Most interesting thing that he said to us in, our
- 26:30Speaker 2: interview which Is On patriots YouTube in patriots dot com
- 26:33Speaker 2: if you want to check, it out was about the
- 26:36Speaker 2: physical development of the players LIKE that i think really
- 26:39Speaker 2: stood out to me. The most and he told a
- 26:41Speaker 2: really cool Story About tom brady early on AND before
- 26:45Speaker 2: tb twelve, im pliability, you know doing the tight end
- 26:49Speaker 2: and linebacker lifting regiment to try to build up. His body.
- 26:54Speaker 2: You know he said probably around like two to, oh three,
- 26:56Speaker 2: you know around. That timeframe and he said he doubt
- 27:00Speaker 2: the young players on the team and, was like is
- 27:02Speaker 2: a grown? Man sport like we got to, get stronger
- 27:05Speaker 2: we got to, get bigger we got to get, you
- 27:06Speaker 2: know guys got, to grow, you. Know PHYSICALLY and, i think,
- 27:10Speaker 2: you know we're kind, OF talking i think about the,
- 27:12Speaker 2: Offensive line so it was kind of pretty, obvious who,
- 27:14Speaker 2: you KNOW who i was.
- 27:16Speaker 3: TALKING about i think your question was something along the
- 27:19Speaker 3: lines of, you know what is it that you want
- 27:21Speaker 3: players to? Work on and the offication and he said
- 27:24Speaker 3: we got to. Get, Stronger yeah he's, like boom they
- 27:26Speaker 3: had that top.
- 27:27Speaker 5: Of, mind well it was off his press conference was
- 27:29Speaker 5: he had said that he challenged the coaches to continue
- 27:31Speaker 5: to evolve and to find ways within their system to
- 27:34Speaker 5: continue to change and and get better and bring new twists.
- 27:37Speaker 5: To it and, you know the question was kind of
- 27:39Speaker 5: what about, the players what more do you want? To
- 27:41Speaker 5: see and he went, into THAT so i thought It,
- 27:43Speaker 5: WAS yeah i totally clocked, It Too and, i'm like
- 27:45Speaker 5: you know who?
- 27:45Speaker 9: This?
- 27:46Speaker 2: Is, me, YEAH right I, Mean, campbell wilson But Even
- 27:50Speaker 2: Drake MAY like i think all of THOSE guys i
- 27:53Speaker 2: think he was talking to in, terms of, you know
- 27:55Speaker 2: play strength and developing the pounding.
- 27:59Speaker 1: THIS year, I mean i think he's got to put,
- 28:00Speaker 1: you know as.
- 28:00Speaker 5: He, GETS older i think he'll fill out a, little
- 28:03Speaker 5: bit but, you know having that little bit of extra
- 28:05Speaker 5: layer of muscle to protect him over the.
- 28:06Speaker 1: Long season I'm.
- 28:07Speaker 3: Sure onion it's liked the wrestling right. All right eight
- 28:13Speaker 3: five to five past five Hundred Is The. Hotline Podcast
- 28:16Speaker 3: at patriots dot com is the. Email address let's get.
- 28:19Speaker 3: Into it we'll start with Let's see Dan. And daytona What's?
- 28:23Speaker 7: Up, dan.
- 28:25Speaker 4: Hey can you guys?
- 28:26Speaker 10: Hear?
- 28:26Speaker 3: Me?
- 28:27Speaker 1: Yes Yeah he.
- 28:30Speaker 11: EVAN induced i first wanted, to ask how was? The
- 28:32Speaker 11: combine did you guys have? A guitar we just talked.
- 28:34Speaker 2: About it it, Was good it was it.
- 28:37Speaker 5: WAS good i came in a little late because of,
- 28:38Speaker 5: the Snow but Evan was evan got the full uh
- 28:41Speaker 5: the full.
- 28:41Speaker 1: Push, bang.
- 28:44Speaker 10: Okay.
- 28:44Speaker 11: That's good. I'm, glad, yeah SORRY but i just came
- 28:46Speaker 11: in on a lot on.
- 28:47Speaker 12: Your, discussion okay one.
- 28:50Speaker 11: OTHER thing i want one OTHER thing i wanted to
- 28:51Speaker 11: bring up for let you. Guys go i'm not going
- 28:55Speaker 11: to beat the, dead HORSE but i think you guys
- 28:58Speaker 11: heard About the. Inception kids, everyone's take Even on paul
- 29:02Speaker 11: shows especially and on national media with calling hurt and stuff.
- 29:07Speaker 11: Like that what do you guys think about if, they said,
- 29:11Speaker 11: you know if if we happen To Let stefon diggs
- 29:13Speaker 11: go and they bring in Uh the conception kid Out,
- 29:18Speaker 11: OF texas A, and m what would, you guys would
- 29:20Speaker 11: you guys rather bring up bring him in or maybe
- 29:23Speaker 11: possibly even keeping both bring if we were to draft
- 29:26Speaker 11: conception and then keep. Stuff ON but i think they
- 29:29Speaker 11: should also restructure. His, DEAL.
- 29:34Speaker 1: Okay I mean i don't think that's.
- 29:35Speaker 4: A swap, i, mean no THEY need I mean i,
- 29:39Speaker 4: like concept but they need more. THAN that I expect
- 29:43Speaker 4: i would need to be replaced if they do Not bring.
- 29:46Speaker 2: DIGS back i would like to PAIR some digs with
- 29:49Speaker 2: somebody instead of one for. ONE swap i would like
- 29:54Speaker 2: To See stefan diggs and Sign An alex pierce draft
- 29:59Speaker 2: Of The chris, sprasle draft somebody that is on the,
- 30:02Speaker 2: outside that, you Know let digs do the short underneath
- 30:05Speaker 2: chain moving stuff and then have your guy on the
- 30:08Speaker 2: end over the top and you know that sort. Of
- 30:11Speaker 2: THING LIKE i i think that's the best course of action,
- 30:14Speaker 2: for them and, you know kind of THE one i
- 30:16Speaker 2: expect them.
- 30:17Speaker 8: To DO like i think they're going to try to.
- 30:19Speaker 8: FIGURE something, i mean.
- 30:20Speaker 3: The people who pay attention to such things Say that
- 30:22Speaker 3: diggs wiped Out his instagram.
- 30:24Speaker 2: Account completely what does it?
- 30:27Speaker 7: Mean?
- 30:27Speaker 2: Now, so yeah what does?
- 30:29Speaker 6: That mean you know who knows.
- 30:31Speaker 1: For us IS that i don't know.
- 30:33Speaker 2: Absolutely nothing Mark's. In connecticut? What's?
- 30:37Speaker 11: Up, mark, hey guys thanks for taking my call, as
- 30:41Speaker 11: always and just had two quick things.
- 30:44Speaker 12: For you it looks like there's a couple of really
- 30:47Speaker 12: big linemen in. This, draft uh, You know i'm looking
- 30:50Speaker 12: at guys that are, six seven six eighty six nine
- 30:53Speaker 12: to maybe replace the right side of. That line and
- 30:58Speaker 12: my other POINT that i really wanted to talk about
- 31:00Speaker 12: is again. Tight end we haven't thressed tight end in a,
- 31:04Speaker 12: long time and it just seems like the middle round
- 31:06Speaker 12: is going to be real strong with Guys that i'm,
- 31:10Speaker 12: looking at guys that are six five.
- 31:11Speaker 11: Six six that can do.
- 31:13Speaker 12: It all they're a blocker and. A receiver and just
- 31:15Speaker 12: kind of wanted to get your guys's take from the combine.
- 31:19Speaker 12: On that appreciate you guys.
- 31:20Speaker 5: As always, all, Right Thanks mark brabel said to kind
- 31:23Speaker 5: of surprising, to me that's what he went the volume
- 31:25Speaker 5: of the tight end class so not, you know necessarily.
- 31:27Speaker 5: The top, You Know kenyon city was. CRAZY tested i
- 31:31Speaker 5: mean he looks like. A specimen but, AFTER that, i
- 31:33Speaker 5: mean again it's a little. BIT flavor, i think, you
- 31:35Speaker 5: KNOW you're i just don't really get the people who,
- 31:38Speaker 5: are like well they need, the blocking like you're stressing.
- 31:40Speaker 5: The BLOCKING like i understand that that's, the Need and
- 31:42Speaker 5: i've been one to lament. That NEED but i also
- 31:44Speaker 5: think that there's a number of really great athletes in
- 31:46Speaker 5: here that could potentially, give you, YOU know t two
- 31:50Speaker 5: that can make an impact in the passing game and,
- 31:52Speaker 5: you know maybe you figure out the blocking tight end
- 31:54Speaker 5: part of it on your own time. As well likes,
- 31:56Speaker 5: to Say, but, i'm uh, You know i'm much more
- 31:58Speaker 5: intrigued by Guys Like max claire then the other Guy From,
- 32:01Speaker 5: ohio state, you know and just that has some athletics.
- 32:03Speaker 2: There can block a. LITTLE bit i went through all
- 32:05Speaker 2: these guys yesterday for the, most PART and I Think
- 32:10Speaker 2: max claire is actually probably the one that stood out
- 32:12Speaker 2: the most because he can block A little i just
- 32:14Speaker 2: think that from an offensive, Coordinator's Perspective Eli Stower's michael
- 32:21Speaker 2: Trigg from baylor uh six three. Two forty they're, really
- 32:25Speaker 2: RECEIVERS and i think from an offensive, coordinator's perspective, it's,
- 32:29Speaker 2: like well what MISMATCH am i getting by putting this
- 32:32Speaker 2: guy on? The field, you know like it if he's
- 32:36Speaker 2: just going to get treated like a receiver and they're
- 32:38Speaker 2: gonna stay in Three corner nickel or they're going to put,
- 32:42Speaker 2: their six, you know defensive backs on the field on?
- 32:44Speaker 2: Third down like what ADVANTAGE am i getting by having
- 32:47Speaker 2: this player instead of just putting a wide receiver on
- 32:51Speaker 2: the field in? His SPOT and i think that that's
- 32:54Speaker 2: where like it sort of changes, from, like Yeah like
- 32:56Speaker 2: stower's is a great athlete and he can catch the
- 32:59Speaker 2: ball and he's, super smooth, you know all that kind,
- 33:02Speaker 2: Of stuff but how do they go about getting the
- 33:08Speaker 2: mismatches that you're hoping to create? With him if all
- 33:12Speaker 2: you're really doing is putting Him In hunter henry on,
- 33:14Speaker 2: the field who are both not. Plus BLOCKERS and i
- 33:17Speaker 2: think that's the, problem that, you know just from like a,
- 33:19Speaker 2: coaching angle, it's like well WHAT do i do with?
- 33:22Speaker 2: This guy, you, know, like yeah he's, you know athletic
- 33:25Speaker 2: and he's a, good receiver but like what's? His role
- 33:29Speaker 2: and HOW do i get him on the field for
- 33:32Speaker 2: three all? Three downs? You KNOW and i think that's
- 33:35Speaker 2: the biggest thing that when you look at it from,
- 33:37Speaker 2: that angle because like all these guys that are going in,
- 33:41Speaker 2: that range a lot of them can just. Catch passes,
- 33:44Speaker 2: you know they're Talking, About Stower's, trig jolly the GUY From,
- 33:49Speaker 2: Nc state like none of these guys are great, plus
- 33:53Speaker 2: BLOCKERS and i just don't know Even like claire is
- 33:55Speaker 2: like Probably A hunter henry blocker where he's gonna be functional, But,
- 33:59Speaker 2: behid yeah not be like great as.
- 34:02Speaker 3: A blocker staying on the tight, End theme luke writes
- 34:05Speaker 3: in curious, your thoughts would trading Or Cutting hunter henry
- 34:09Speaker 3: save us any money on? The cap, and, is so
- 34:11Speaker 3: what do you think reasonable trade compensation would be To
- 34:14Speaker 3: receive my thought is Possibly trading henry then signing a
- 34:18Speaker 3: tight end or two from this free Agent Group, Kate Otten,
- 34:20Speaker 3: daniel Bellinger And, charlie kohler and then drafting one or
- 34:24Speaker 3: two from This Group, Oscar Delt john Gillenborg Or. Sam
- 34:28Speaker 3: rousch the purpose of this would be to try to
- 34:30Speaker 3: get us some balance from the tight ends for both
- 34:32Speaker 3: the pass and run game to run twelve person.
- 34:36Speaker 2: MORE effectively i don't like.
- 34:38Speaker 7: THAT plan.
- 34:39Speaker 5: I don't, I mean I Think hunter henry is definitely,
- 34:42Speaker 5: you know on the other side of thirty and he'll be.
- 34:44Speaker 5: Winding down but you know, those guys that feels like
- 34:47Speaker 5: a net loss. TO me i do think it's a
- 34:48Speaker 5: position of a major long, term need and That's why
- 34:52Speaker 5: i'm you Know, with evan and this is a really
- 34:54Speaker 5: interesting class and they haven't drafted a guy in.
- 34:56Speaker 1: A while, i mean it's really.
- 34:57Speaker 5: Just been, You know Hooper and henry last couple, of
- 35:00Speaker 5: years and before that it wasn't a LOT of, i
- 35:02Speaker 5: mean not the crosses of the world. Remember HIM so
- 35:06Speaker 5: i think it's a position of long term Need and
- 35:07Speaker 5: i'd love to see them target one of these mid
- 35:09Speaker 5: range guys and hope that he develops into.
- 35:12Speaker 4: That, Guy yeah i'm interested in the draft stuff that
- 35:14Speaker 4: you guys are. Talking about but, you Know Replacing hunter
- 35:18Speaker 4: henry With A, charlie kohler, You Know, kate OTTEN that's.
- 35:24Speaker 1: I mean I take kate out And, With yeah i'm
- 35:26Speaker 1: talking about.
- 35:27Speaker 4: Replacing him, you know it's kind of LIKE the. Digs
- 35:29Speaker 4: thing it's a different version. Of it but like you
- 35:33Speaker 4: can decide you want to. Move on you can convince
- 35:35Speaker 4: yourself because you've been brainwashed into thinking that the salaries
- 35:38Speaker 4: have anything to do with any, Of this so you
- 35:40Speaker 4: can convince yourself you're better off if you move On
- 35:43Speaker 4: from digs or you need him to take a restructured
- 35:45Speaker 4: deal of. Some sort you need, the player you need. The,
- 35:49Speaker 4: production now if you think that he's on the way
- 35:51Speaker 4: down and last year what you got out of him
- 35:53Speaker 4: on the field is going. To, DECREASE fine i need
- 35:58Speaker 4: someone who's going to do what he did last year
- 36:01Speaker 4: and then that that would just be net EVEN like
- 36:05Speaker 4: i don't like the idea of moving on from good
- 36:07Speaker 4: players without a plan to.
- 36:09Speaker 2: REPLACE them i like, the idea, you know just looking
- 36:12Speaker 2: at the tight end class and very able to, said volume,
- 36:15Speaker 2: you know. Deep class, you know double dipping is not
- 36:18Speaker 2: a Terrible if.
- 36:19Speaker 4: I've done that, a lot and they have.
- 36:21Speaker 2: Not, recently yeah you know they have a third they
- 36:23Speaker 2: have two fourteen and yeah you talk Like, that mills.
- 36:30Speaker 8: You know four six.
- 36:31Speaker 2: Round picks, You know so can you go get One of,
- 36:34Speaker 2: deuce's guys one of these receiving type of tight ends
- 36:37Speaker 2: and then maybe go get a blocking tight end and
- 36:39Speaker 2: develop both those Guys Behind hunter henry for, you know
- 36:42Speaker 2: and maybe you know one of those guys starts to
- 36:45Speaker 2: contribute in some capacity as. A rookie, you know the
- 36:48Speaker 2: Emailer Mentioned, sam rouse who had a hell of a
- 36:51Speaker 2: combine is like two sixty five and you know six four,
- 36:55Speaker 2: sixty five two, sixty five but, can run, you know
- 36:57Speaker 2: ran like in the four sixes high four sixes.
- 37:00Speaker 8: Four sevens, you know he's really. Intriguing player.
- 37:03Speaker 2: You know it's, Funny though like the one thing, with
- 37:04Speaker 2: him like, he's like yeah He's got. Dinah, arms yeah
- 37:07Speaker 2: he's got like a seventy six. Inch wingspan so like
- 37:12Speaker 2: he's like Literally The will campbell and. Tight ends he looks.
- 37:14Speaker 2: The part he looks fantastically. He had he has all,
- 37:17Speaker 2: this talent but he's just his frame is. Just, Awkward
- 37:21Speaker 2: yeah and so, you know just watching, him yesterday a
- 37:23Speaker 2: little bit like that does come up where catch radius
- 37:26Speaker 2: and blocking radius and things of.
- 37:28Speaker 8: That nature but like that guy is that guy is.
- 37:31Speaker 2: A unit i mean.
- 37:33Speaker 5: HE'S big i, JUST say i SEE the te two
- 37:35Speaker 5: position is just, an opportunity a clear opportunity where on.
- 37:38Speaker 5: The Offense and i'd like to upgrade at the wide.
- 37:40Speaker 5: Receiver position but the most direct route to me is if,
- 37:43Speaker 5: you could, you know work a Guy In hunter henry
- 37:45Speaker 5: is starting to come in and now you've got maybe
- 37:46Speaker 5: a dynamic young rookie that you can feed THOSE t
- 37:49Speaker 5: e two steps too that he starts to develop a
- 37:52Speaker 5: little bit and maybe, you know it Does give josh
- 37:54Speaker 5: and you kind of twist to play with depending on
- 37:56Speaker 5: what their skill.
- 37:57Speaker 3: Set is Anthony and virginia wants to know who are
- 38:00Speaker 3: the guys right now that are projected to be gone
- 38:03Speaker 3: By the patriots pick that may still be there when.
- 38:05Speaker 6: We pick in, other words guys who. May, fall well
- 38:07Speaker 6: that's so hard.
- 38:08Speaker 1: TO know i mean too early.
- 38:10Speaker 5: FOR that i look more at, position groups. YOU know
- 38:12Speaker 5: i mean definitely the defensive. END edges, i mean there's
- 38:14Speaker 5: going to be some of those guys no matter where
- 38:17Speaker 5: or who goes when unless there's a. Huge RUN but
- 38:19Speaker 5: i think that that's. THE position i kind of like
- 38:21Speaker 5: the tackle. CLASS too, I mean i feel like this
- 38:23Speaker 5: draft right tackle of. The future if you could come
- 38:24Speaker 5: out of this draft with the right tackle of the
- 38:26Speaker 5: future and somebody you Know Behind, morgan moses would you
- 38:29Speaker 5: want to do that with the. FIRST pick i don't
- 38:30Speaker 5: Know if i'd want to do it with the.
- 38:31Speaker 4: First pick there's been a lot of talk. ABOUT that
- 38:33Speaker 4: i think there would.
- 38:34Speaker 2: Be one there because the drop off. Is terrible, so
- 38:37Speaker 2: like if you don't draft From The blake miller on,
- 38:40Speaker 2: your group that cluster of. Tackles gone getting a guy
- 38:46Speaker 2: that has starter potential down the road after that is
- 38:48Speaker 2: going to.
- 38:49Speaker 3: Be, tough well according to One of, Paul's Guys. Mike giardi,
- 38:53Speaker 3: you know he says he didn't report that's.
- 38:56Speaker 4: Not true but what's. Not true he didn't say that.
- 38:59Speaker 4: He's tiring now somebody made that up right and attributed
- 39:03Speaker 4: It to mike, gi, Right, right, yeah yeah so that's.
- 39:06Speaker 5: Not true well, either way he's, you know he's near
- 39:09Speaker 5: the end and we were lucky to get as many
- 39:11Speaker 5: games out of him last year as. They did they
- 39:12Speaker 5: took steps from the moment one of training camp to manage.
- 39:15Speaker 5: His workload they're probably going to have to do. That
- 39:17Speaker 5: again can you hope to get that same performance out.
- 39:20Speaker 5: OF him i think they really need to be.
- 39:22Speaker 1: Protected at the right.
- 39:22Speaker 4: Tackle, SPOT yeah, I mean i do see tackle as,
- 39:25Speaker 4: a NEED but i just don't like it at. THIRTY
- 39:28Speaker 4: one i think they NEED to i think they need
- 39:30Speaker 4: to find a player that fills a, you know a
- 39:32Speaker 4: more pressing need for. Twenty. Six, Yeah YEAH and i
- 39:35Speaker 4: know that that sometimes, seems counterproductive, you know because you
- 39:39Speaker 4: are going to need To. Replace Moses and i'm sorry
- 39:42Speaker 4: there is some uncertainty on the. LEFT side, i mean
- 39:44Speaker 4: you can't know. FOR sure i know what the, plan
- 39:46Speaker 4: IS And i i'm down with, the plan but they
- 39:49Speaker 4: can't know that for, sure now so.
- 39:52Speaker 8: Which SPOTOM lest i?
- 39:53Speaker 2: Get it because they both BOTH like i think the
- 39:56Speaker 2: number one THING that i came out of the combined
- 39:58Speaker 2: is listening to all The what i'm hearings and reading all.
- 40:01Speaker 2: That stuff i'm most concerned about is that nobody really
- 40:05Speaker 2: feels like they're gonna aggressively pursue, left guards and that,
- 40:08Speaker 2: TO me i just like think that that would be a.
- 40:10Speaker 2: MAJOR mistake i don't really understand like it's a good
- 40:14Speaker 2: left guard free. Agency class, it is and you know
- 40:17Speaker 2: there's multiple guys at the top of. The Class David
- 40:20Speaker 2: edwards Suamalu, From. Pittsburgh Vera tucker potonio is now a.
- 40:24Speaker 2: Free agent, You Know ian rappaport was Talking Up, zion johnson,
- 40:28Speaker 2: YOU know bc kid that played left guard For the
- 40:30Speaker 2: chargers last handful of year's first. Round pick like getting an,
- 40:34Speaker 2: established act, you know pure left guard to play Next.
- 40:39Speaker 8: TO campbell i could do wonders.
- 40:41Speaker 3: For him, You Know vray bowls is very open with
- 40:46Speaker 3: the information that he, gives us but he could also,
- 40:48Speaker 3: Be cagy like maybe they are thinking hard about guard
- 40:52Speaker 3: and they're just not letting.
- 40:54Speaker 4: That out.
- 40:54Speaker 2: RIGHT now i would like to, Hope, so fred because
- 40:56Speaker 2: that that to me seems like such an. Easy one
- 40:58Speaker 2: like there's all these left guards available and. Free agency
- 41:01Speaker 2: the market's not that crazy at the guard position right
- 41:04Speaker 2: now where you're gonna have to pay that guy thirty
- 41:05Speaker 2: million dollars, a year like you can get one for ten.
- 41:08Speaker 2: Million dollars that's an upgrade and a really. Solid PLAYER
- 41:11Speaker 2: and i, just think, you know we've talked about it
- 41:13Speaker 2: in the past with you, know guys like how much
- 41:16Speaker 2: it benefits guys to have somebody next to them that
- 41:19Speaker 2: knows what they're doing and like has like a certain
- 41:22Speaker 2: skill set that can compliment their. SKILL set i just
- 41:25Speaker 2: feel like that's such an. Easy layup another piece.
- 41:27Speaker 5: Of that to Me is i've seen a lot of,
- 41:28Speaker 5: you know every here's my simple twenty eight point plan
- 41:31Speaker 5: For the, patriots offseason and a lot of times those
- 41:33Speaker 5: plans Include extending mike on one you.
- 41:36Speaker 1: To, you know get out of this last year of.
- 41:38Speaker 5: HIS contract i know he graded out very highly on
- 41:42Speaker 5: The online metris kind. OF thing i, Don't know i'm not.
- 41:45Speaker 5: So sure I'M really i have Questions About Mike on whenu's.
- 41:48Speaker 5: Future here if this is going to be his. Last year,
- 41:51Speaker 5: you know maybe they do, extend HIM but I just
- 41:52Speaker 5: i think that that's a need, either way and maybe it.
- 41:55Speaker 4: Both sets and it's back to my thing that drives
- 41:57Speaker 4: me the. Most crazy, it's, like oh they got to,
- 42:02Speaker 4: you know they got To redo. Diggs's contract they got
- 42:04Speaker 4: to redo, His contract like so all the good players that, You,
- 42:07Speaker 4: have like so are we going to be? Next year
- 42:09Speaker 4: this time we're going. To be we have To Redo milton.
- 42:11Speaker 4: Williams's contract like anybody who makes any.
- 42:13Speaker 1: SIGNIFICANT money i saw one, of, those like what are?
- 42:16Speaker 4: We doing the cap goes up exponentially. Every year it's
- 42:20Speaker 4: now over three hundred. Million dollars why are you so
- 42:24Speaker 4: worried about? CAP space i. Just don't i'll never. GET
- 42:28Speaker 4: it i don't. Get it it doesn't make any sense
- 42:30Speaker 4: to me in a league with a soft cap that
- 42:32Speaker 4: you can do anything you want. With it why the
- 42:35Speaker 4: fans are so fixated on the numbers that the. PLAYERS
- 42:38Speaker 4: get i will never Get Why robert kraft is interested.
- 42:42Speaker 4: IN it i totally get it's, his MONEY and i
- 42:45Speaker 4: get That When mike rabel says we don't just want
- 42:49Speaker 4: to get younger and better cheaper is also one of those.
- 42:55Speaker 4: Three THINGS and i understand from a, team PERSPECTIVE if
- 42:59Speaker 4: i can get this production for ten million dollars in
- 43:03Speaker 4: the same production for, five million sign me up for the.
- 43:06Speaker 4: Five million, every time it generally doesn't work. That way
- 43:10Speaker 4: good players. Cost money mike wyn who was a good
- 43:13Speaker 4: player for them, last year he, costs money. YOU know
- 43:16Speaker 4: i think his average annual value was like, nineteen, Million
- 43:19Speaker 4: right so it's not outrageous for a TOP flight, i
- 43:22Speaker 4: mean would you call him a top, five guard top
- 43:25Speaker 4: five right? Guard anyway maybe if you want to differentiate
- 43:28Speaker 4: between left, And, right yeah maybe maybe a, right guard,
- 43:31Speaker 4: you know so like that's what that's what. They, cost
- 43:34Speaker 4: like why does it bother people that he makes a
- 43:36Speaker 4: good amount. OF money, i, think now look, at you
- 43:40Speaker 4: you're a little worried about down. The road, you know
- 43:42Speaker 4: his size, he's been he's been, Pretty big he's battled some.
- 43:44Speaker 4: Weight issues maybe you don't want to. Extend him that's.
- 43:47Speaker 4: Totally DIFFERENT but i don't UNDERSTAND why i Can't Have
- 43:52Speaker 4: stefan diggs at, you know with taking twenty six million on, the,
- 43:56Speaker 4: Cap right why that's like puts him out like twenty
- 44:01Speaker 4: five in terms of wide receivers for like an average,
- 44:04Speaker 4: annual value.
- 44:04Speaker 8: Not to mention they have forty one.
- 44:06Speaker 2: Million dollars even if.
- 44:08Speaker 6: He does even if he is willing to take, a
- 44:10Speaker 6: haircut he's going to take. A haircut but even if,
- 44:14Speaker 6: he did it doesn't solve your problem at.
- 44:16Speaker 3: Wide receiver you still need somebody who will take away
- 44:21Speaker 3: the attention to him so that he Doesn't Become.
- 44:23Speaker 4: December, Digs right and if you want to TELL me
- 44:26Speaker 4: i want to move On from DIGS because i don't
- 44:28Speaker 4: think he did it in, the PLAYOFFS and i worry,
- 44:31Speaker 4: about it it's only going to get what that's a
- 44:33Speaker 4: perfectly logical. Football Argument but i'm not going to get
- 44:37Speaker 4: rid of him because He makes he's going to make
- 44:39Speaker 4: more money next year than he did.
- 44:40Speaker 2: THIS year i just Wondered at fred's, point two like
- 44:43Speaker 2: he's getting all this double team and extra attention in.
- 44:45Speaker 2: The playoffs you know these teams are game planning you,
- 44:48Speaker 2: now heavily and he's. Third down It's wears digs and
- 44:52Speaker 2: wears the. Double team like if you have somebody on
- 44:54Speaker 2: the outside that's now saying. No you if you, do that.
- 44:57Speaker 2: You're leaving you know insert player. Name here one on
- 45:01Speaker 2: one on, the outside, like now you can't do that
- 45:04Speaker 2: as easily as you might have did total. This YEAR and,
- 45:06Speaker 2: i think, you know the two guys that got taken
- 45:09Speaker 2: Out Were hunter Henry And, stefan diggs and all year
- 45:12Speaker 2: long they had kind of been the engines of the
- 45:15Speaker 2: passing offense and they get, taken out and that we
- 45:17Speaker 2: saw what, the offense, you know where. It went, you
- 45:20Speaker 2: know it's just to.
- 45:20Speaker 5: Me what the biggest challenge is for this team on
- 45:23Speaker 5: offense this offseason is how do? You upgrade and, you
- 45:26Speaker 5: know these guys are all coming back essentially except for
- 45:29Speaker 5: the tight end.
- 45:30Speaker 1: Two SPOT but i.
- 45:31Speaker 5: Don't think anyone here thinks that that's going to be
- 45:33Speaker 5: good enough next year for, them to, you know be
- 45:35Speaker 5: able to compete at that. Next level, you know you're
- 45:37Speaker 5: Looking at Booty and Douglas and henry are all going
- 45:40Speaker 5: to be free agents. Next year you need a long term.
- 45:43Speaker 5: Plan there you need to find. A guy Even if diggs,
- 45:46Speaker 5: comes back it might be just this year even and
- 45:49Speaker 5: then you're still you're gonna have a lot of turnover.
- 45:51Speaker 5: Next YEAR so i just really think they need to
- 45:53Speaker 5: find a way to take the Weapons around drake this
- 45:56Speaker 5: year to a, new LEVEL and i mean to be.
- 45:58Speaker 5: TOTALLY frank, I mean I like diggs for what. HE
- 46:00Speaker 5: is i kind Of like hollin's report. With him but the,
- 46:02Speaker 5: other guys IT'S just i don't know if they're good
- 46:05Speaker 5: enough to really get them to, you know that elite
- 46:07Speaker 5: level week in week out IN the.
- 46:09Speaker 1: Nfl, Season Well, wright sin you guys.
- 46:12Speaker 3: Are shocked vrabel knows, Everyone's, name rabel Who's. In ohio
- 46:16Speaker 3: guy's personality is Every miss. MIDWESTERN dad i grew up with.
- 46:20Speaker 3: Personable ballbusters we're drafting from four to thirty one. This
- 46:24Speaker 3: year what do you think the best value position wise
- 46:27Speaker 3: at this point is in? The draft henderson was in
- 46:29Speaker 3: EARLY second i want us to get the value of
- 46:34Speaker 3: rush nine hundred and eleven rushing yards to nine touchdowns
- 46:37Speaker 3: two hundred and eleven. RECEIVING yards i know we had
- 46:39Speaker 3: some fluky, long runs but given, the opportunity he had
- 46:42Speaker 3: the tools to bring those flukes to. THE house i
- 46:45Speaker 3: don't care if that value is on offense. OR defense
- 46:48Speaker 3: I take henderson's rookie Season Over nikhil harry's entire Career
- 46:52Speaker 3: Or jalen pok, and honestly most of our late first
- 46:55Speaker 3: early second, round picks.
- 46:58Speaker 2: So he's looking for that type. OF value, i mean
- 47:02Speaker 2: the strength of the draft is the, edge rushers and,
- 47:05Speaker 2: you know they've made it pretty clear at least they're
- 47:07Speaker 2: kind of putting out there that edge dresher is a
- 47:10Speaker 2: position that they're going, to hammer maybe even sign multiple
- 47:13Speaker 2: and draft one at least. One guy you know mentioned
- 47:18Speaker 2: somebody else, mentioned like who are some of the guys
- 47:20Speaker 2: that are kind of maybe falling down. THE board i
- 47:22Speaker 2: think Cash is howl is one of those types of
- 47:24Speaker 2: guys on the edge because he has. Weird, dimensions again,
- 47:27Speaker 2: you know he's got, shorter arms And ruben band is
- 47:29Speaker 2: going to be. Just Fine ruben bands going, top five top,
- 47:32Speaker 2: ten Easily but howl is someone that was kind of
- 47:35Speaker 2: in that teens range going into the combine that maybe,
- 47:40Speaker 2: you know slips a little bit because of the depth of,
- 47:42Speaker 2: the class because of the fact that he doesn't have the,
- 47:44Speaker 2: longest build and, you know maybe that's a guy that
- 47:47Speaker 2: could be someone at thirty one that would give you
- 47:49Speaker 2: tremendous value because that would be the best player available.
- 47:52Speaker 4: For sure that's why those are always really hard. To
- 47:55Speaker 4: like if we have, THE question i think a couple
- 47:57Speaker 4: of emails ago you know what guy has a chance?
- 48:01Speaker 4: To FALL and i think it's it's hard to answer
- 48:03Speaker 4: those because the league's view of the top of the
- 48:10Speaker 4: draft is much different than what you're probably seeing from. Most,
- 48:13Speaker 4: people now some guys are better, than Others The, damee
- 48:16Speaker 4: Bruglers The, daniel jeremiah's they tend to have a better
- 48:19Speaker 4: track record. Than most but one guy that you think
- 48:24Speaker 4: is falling is probably WHY the nfl had him to, you,
- 48:28Speaker 4: know roughly to, begin with there's. Always outliers there's, always
- 48:32Speaker 4: sorry there's always a cold strange okay who everybody you
- 48:36Speaker 4: know had you know in the, fourth round and you
- 48:38Speaker 4: Know the patriots. Saw differently they're. Always outliers but generally
- 48:43Speaker 4: the league doesn't look at these wow, he's falling or
- 48:47Speaker 4: wow he he he went much higher than. We thought
- 48:51Speaker 4: like the league all kind of has the guys and we.
- 48:54Speaker 4: Just don't we're not privy.
- 48:56Speaker 8: TO it i think the only like exception would.
- 48:58Speaker 2: Be medicals, you know if a guy goes through this
- 49:01Speaker 2: type of process, this YEAR and i think besides, the
- 49:04Speaker 2: interviews the combine medicals is probably the most important part of.
- 49:07Speaker 2: The week and if you get to the POINT like i,
- 49:09Speaker 2: saw yesterday report out There That caleb downs's needed and
- 49:12Speaker 2: check out great and, so Like If caleb downs now
- 49:16Speaker 2: goes from a top five pick, to.
- 49:18Speaker 4: Fifteen that would be a, huge drop right then a
- 49:21Speaker 4: lot of people think he's the very best player in, the,
- 49:23Speaker 4: draft right.
- 49:23Speaker 6: Which Should douas sanders a?
- 49:25Speaker 7: Huge, drop.
- 49:27Speaker 2: Yeah, Talent, wise yeah, but YEAH like i think That
- 49:31Speaker 2: those it usually is something.
- 49:33Speaker 8: Like that it's either personality didn't.
- 49:36Speaker 4: Not as big as it was made out. To be,
- 49:38Speaker 4: BUT yes i don't think anybody thought he was gonna
- 49:39Speaker 4: be a fifth. ROUND pick i think a lot of
- 49:41Speaker 4: people didn't think he was going to be a First.
- 49:42Speaker 6: Round, yeah, yeah yeah, ALL right i.
- 49:45Speaker 3: Smell food That means, i'm hungry and that means we
- 49:48Speaker 3: have to take. A break but before, we do just
- 49:51Speaker 3: want to let you know that it might be off season,
- 49:55Speaker 3: for football but tax season is.
- 49:57Speaker 2: Definitely here, you guys do.
- 49:58Speaker 1: YOUR tax, I said i turn him.
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- 52:25Speaker 15: It's time for another Episode of pats From the. Past
- 52:27Speaker 15: Podcast matt smith here Alongside, with papiolo and we're pleased
- 52:30Speaker 15: to be joined By former Patriots Quarterback. Matt castle let's
- 52:33Speaker 15: go Forty year matt to two thousand, and seven which,
- 52:36Speaker 15: for many many reasons is the seasons that should be
- 52:38Speaker 15: celebrated Here In. New england maybe not with, the banner
- 52:41Speaker 15: but should be Celebrated In. New england how good was?
- 52:43Speaker 15: That team as one who had a chance of front
- 52:46Speaker 15: row seat to see, greatness there it.
- 52:48Speaker 9: WAS unbelievable, i mean even going in, THAT offseason i
- 52:50Speaker 9: think the expectations started.
- 52:52Speaker 7: To rise but also we had all these.
- 52:54Speaker 9: New toys we Had the ferraris on, the outside We Have,
- 52:56Speaker 9: randy moss We Have, Wes Welker dante Stall where jabar.
- 52:59Speaker 7: GAFFNEMSH call, i mean we.
- 53:00Speaker 9: Were loaded tight end room, Was Outstanding daniel Graham And,
- 53:04Speaker 9: ben watson so we had a. Full compliment and throughout
- 53:08Speaker 9: THAT offseason i, was, like man we're. REALLY good i
- 53:11Speaker 9: MEAN because i had been there and we had we always,
- 53:14Speaker 9: were successful but this was a different breed. Of team
- 53:18Speaker 9: and then we got to that first week Against the
- 53:20Speaker 9: JETS and i, was like, oh man IT'S what, i
- 53:24Speaker 9: EXPECTED but i didn't know that it was going to
- 53:26Speaker 9: happen that quick where we just dominated teams probably until
- 53:31Speaker 9: about what week, eight nine when we finally had a
- 53:34Speaker 9: Game against baltimore where we had to.
- 53:35Speaker 7: Come back we had the Throw to jabar gaffe and THE.
- 53:39Speaker 2: Probably la Game in indy.
- 53:43Speaker 15: That year you guys were DOWN ten, i Think and
- 53:46Speaker 15: tom had to bring. Him back bulker scored to get.
- 53:48Speaker 15: It closer THEN fuck i think scored the.
- 53:50Speaker 4: Game win he touched yes.
- 53:52Speaker 7: There there that was a.
- 53:53Speaker 9: Game too so later in, the season like we started
- 53:55Speaker 9: to get a little bit, better competition but the season
- 53:58Speaker 9: itself was just a masterpiece in terms of the confidence
- 54:03Speaker 9: Level that brady had throughout. The year the chemistry that
- 54:05Speaker 9: he had with all, those guys Particularly with Randy and
- 54:08Speaker 9: welk was was just incredible to see in person and
- 54:14Speaker 9: watch and to see their work ethic week in and.
- 54:16Speaker 7: Week out and.
- 54:17Speaker 9: Then even you go to week sixteen Against, the GIANTS
- 54:21Speaker 9: and i was supposed to play in, that, GAME right
- 54:23Speaker 9: i was getting reps.
- 54:24Speaker 7: That week, they're, like hey, be prepared probably about the first.
- 54:26Speaker 9: Quarter or so second quarter you're going to go in
- 54:28Speaker 9: this game because we were locked up and all of
- 54:31Speaker 9: a sudden that game start and the intensity was like a.
- 54:32Speaker 9: PLAYOFF game, i mean it was unreal because we couldn't
- 54:37Speaker 9: improve our, seat obviously and they nor. Could they and the, Anticipation,
- 54:42Speaker 9: was okay we're going to go, Out here we'll play
- 54:45Speaker 9: our guys and then get ready. For playoffs and then
- 54:48Speaker 9: all of, a sudden the first, quarter ENDS and i
- 54:51Speaker 9: Vividly remember tommy coming to the silence, And saying i'm
- 54:53Speaker 9: not coming out of this. Fucking game and to, a
- 54:55Speaker 9: man all those guys, were like. Let's go and there
- 54:59Speaker 9: was something more Than just. Week sixteen it was something
- 55:02Speaker 9: more than. Just competitive they knew what was at stake
- 55:05Speaker 9: going sixteen and h And when brady, SAID that i, Was,
- 55:08Speaker 9: like Okay maybe i'm not going to play in. This
- 55:10Speaker 9: game but it was the back and forth of that
- 55:13Speaker 9: game was unreal and the intensity. Of it it really
- 55:16Speaker 9: was like another playoff game before we.
- 55:18Speaker 4: Even started and that was one of the few games
- 55:20Speaker 4: that you didn't get to play that year because you had,
- 55:21Speaker 4: so many like thirty eight to. Fourteen, games right you
- 55:24Speaker 4: got a lot of, work, There.
- 55:25Speaker 9: Right it got a lot of work and got in
- 55:27Speaker 9: a bunch of those ball games because we're just blowing
- 55:28Speaker 9: out a ton of teams and it was, just, Like
- 55:30Speaker 9: well castle's going, in here.
- 55:33Speaker 15: When you look Back at tho that and you probably
- 55:35Speaker 15: don't get a lot of reps in Practice because tom
- 55:37Speaker 15: gets all. The reps but do you get any reps
- 55:40Speaker 15: where maybe you're Thrown, to randy maybe you're Thrown To
- 55:42Speaker 15: west and what did that do from a? Development standpoint
- 55:45Speaker 15: you don't know where your career is going.
- 55:46Speaker 7: To go at.
- 55:46Speaker 4: That point you're backing up the greatest quarterback.
- 55:48Speaker 1: He was probably that at.
- 55:49Speaker 15: The time what was that like to be able to
- 55:52Speaker 15: work with those guys to help you down the road
- 55:54Speaker 15: when you finally did get. A, shot yeah, you know
- 55:56Speaker 15: some of it was.
- 55:57Speaker 9: Individual drills, you know every now And then i'd get
- 55:59Speaker 9: a bump and get to throw to. Those guys and
- 56:02Speaker 9: the big development part for us was, sometimes preseason, RIGHT
- 56:05Speaker 9: preseason i got to start that fourth, PRESEASON game i
- 56:08Speaker 9: got to go and there was times where they let
- 56:10Speaker 9: me go with, the starters and so you develop a
- 56:11Speaker 9: little bit of. Chemistry there but, and THEN like i
- 56:14Speaker 9: said during, training camp is really they'll give you some
- 56:17Speaker 9: reps with the, ones occasionally and so that was pivotal
- 56:21Speaker 9: for me to develop a little bit of chemistry with.
- 56:23Speaker 7: Those guys, But overall.
- 56:25Speaker 9: I'm, telling You if tommy wanted to throw, A ball
- 56:28Speaker 9: Like sometimes josh would put me in to throw one
- 56:31Speaker 9: of these past concepts that we have that he's run a.
- 56:33Speaker 7: Million times, he's, like hey let me. Get this i'll,
- 56:35Speaker 7: be like, come, on bro let me have. One throw.
- 56:40Speaker 9: You KNOW but, i mean so you don't get that
- 56:42Speaker 9: much time on task with, those guys but in the
- 56:45Speaker 9: offseason and that you get a little. Bit more and
- 56:47Speaker 9: that was pivotal in terms of just kind of developing.
- 56:49Speaker 9: Those relationships.
- 56:50Speaker 4: For sure what was it like the. Following year, you
- 56:53Speaker 4: know you've obviously expectations sky high again, in, eight right
- 56:56Speaker 4: and then tom he goes down, first quarter ten minutes into,
- 56:59Speaker 4: the game and all of a sudden you have thrust.
- 57:01Speaker 4: Into it what was your mindset like going.
- 57:03Speaker 9: Into, THAT well i was lucky and fortunately because that
- 57:05Speaker 9: preseason taught me he was dealing with a little bit
- 57:07Speaker 9: of a. Foot INJURY so i got to start a
- 57:09Speaker 9: few more GAMES than i normally would have probably played
- 57:11Speaker 9: a little bit more in. The PRESEASON so i remember
- 57:13Speaker 9: that that was helpful in terms of just getting yourself
- 57:16Speaker 9: prepared to play because of. THOSE games i always say
- 57:19Speaker 9: that was for a guy like me who was a
- 57:21Speaker 9: backup was such an important aspect of my development because it's,
- 57:25Speaker 9: live games, live bullets and now you might not have
- 57:27Speaker 9: the same competition is going up against the ones all,
- 57:30Speaker 9: game long and you can see that as your career,
- 57:32Speaker 9: gets older, those ONES like i got to play in.
- 57:35Speaker 9: The preseason now they're down. To two but that development.
- 57:38Speaker 9: Was huge And then week one HIT and i was
- 57:40Speaker 9: back in THE position I normally i'm sitting there WATCHING
- 57:43Speaker 9: and i remember that play like it was Yesterday when
- 57:45Speaker 9: randy caught the ball down the side and, he Fumbles and,
- 57:47Speaker 9: i'm WATCHING but i hear the hush come over the
- 57:49Speaker 9: stadium AND then i look BACK and I see. Tom
- 57:51Speaker 9: Down and I've seen tom down a. Few times he's
- 57:54Speaker 9: one of the Toughest guys i've ever. Played with but
- 57:56Speaker 9: the fact that he wasn't getting up and that the
- 57:58Speaker 9: doctor was out there meant so was a little bit more.
- 58:01Speaker 9: Intense here and then to watch him go in the
- 58:03Speaker 9: locker Room and bill just casually come over, And, say
- 58:05Speaker 9: castle get, your howmet you're? Going on just, like that
- 58:10Speaker 9: there was, no panic there was, no like let's make
- 58:12Speaker 9: this bigger than. It is it's just like matter, of,
- 58:14Speaker 9: facty hey get ready to go and then they then
- 58:17Speaker 9: they punt it down to the one yard line and we.
- 58:19Speaker 9: Start going we run the Ball and randy runs a
- 58:21Speaker 9: route that he wasn't. Supposed to he's supposed to run the.
- 58:23Speaker 9: Quick post patrick's urtain. Jumps inside he runs right by
- 58:26Speaker 9: him just because he's a savvy vet and. Saw IT
- 58:28Speaker 9: and i come up off the fake anticipating the, inside
- 58:31Speaker 9: posts and he's ten. Yards behind patrick's urtain went right
- 58:34Speaker 9: by him and going DOWN and i, was.
- 58:36Speaker 7: Like, All right i'll just throw it. Out there see.
- 58:38Speaker 7: What happen he catches it and goes.
- 58:39Speaker 9: Fifty six SO but i don't know if it really
- 58:43Speaker 9: set in until after, that game right when the media attention,
- 58:47Speaker 9: that week the noise that was coming outside. The building
- 58:52Speaker 9: every media outlet was trying to get an interview about
- 58:55Speaker 9: you know who you're going to, bring in want to
- 58:56Speaker 9: do a, sit down you haven't played all the different
- 58:59Speaker 9: storylines behind my career, And uh and THAT'S when i, had,
- 59:03Speaker 9: TO like i had to try to decompress a. Little
- 59:07Speaker 9: bit and then, you know getting back in the building
- 59:09Speaker 9: though that week was huge for me because once you're in,
- 59:12Speaker 9: this building the routine is the same week in and.
- 59:14Speaker 9: Week out and that's one of their strengths is that once,
- 59:17Speaker 9: you're here it's a work work. Like mentality you're gonna,
- 59:20Speaker 9: come in we're gonna do the. Same thing we're gonna.
- 59:22Speaker 9: Get prepared we're not gonna talk about, who's here, who's
- 59:25Speaker 9: not whoever's playing is getting ready. To go and so
- 59:28Speaker 9: they did a great job of just kind of keeping
- 59:30Speaker 9: me on tasks.
- 59:30Speaker 15: That Week, that, MONDAY like i don't know that it
- 59:33Speaker 15: was a, gong, show Okay but I'm sure pioli was
- 59:36Speaker 15: making calls and all the, you know like, you said five, Alarm,
- 59:40Speaker 15: Fire chris sim's, this guy that guy are all? Coming
- 59:43Speaker 15: in what's going through your mind? That like and then maybe,
- 59:46Speaker 15: more importantly what did it mean to YOU when i
- 59:48Speaker 15: don't know if anybody came up to you, and, Said,
- 59:49Speaker 15: hey matt.
- 59:51Speaker 4: It's you we're riding. With YOU can i just add
- 59:53Speaker 4: to that real quick before you. Answer it my recollection
- 59:57Speaker 4: is that they had some visits Planned and bill pulled
- 1:00:01Speaker 4: the plug on him and, JUST said. I don't i
- 1:00:04Speaker 4: think the thought Process that bill probably had was he
- 1:00:07Speaker 4: doesn't need any veterans coming in looking over. His shoulder.
- 1:00:10Speaker 4: It's him we're Going with matt and he doesn't. Need
- 1:00:13Speaker 4: that is? That true OR am i making?
- 1:00:14Speaker 9: That up you know what it might. HAVE been i
- 1:00:16Speaker 9: tried to stay out of that as much. AS possible i,
- 1:00:18Speaker 9: WAS like i had enough on my plate to be honest.
- 1:00:21Speaker 9: With you but the fact that they didn't bring somebody
- 1:00:23Speaker 9: in and now that would create more noise and more
- 1:00:27Speaker 9: chatter even inside the. Locker room who's going to? Be
- 1:00:29Speaker 9: Playing is castle? Your guy are they going to have
- 1:00:32Speaker 9: a quick plug on him where they're going to pull
- 1:00:34Speaker 9: him as soon as he has, any issues, you know with.
- 1:00:37Speaker 7: The team and then we won those first.
- 1:00:39Speaker 9: Two games we get boat Raced, By miami we, go
- 1:00:42Speaker 9: out We Beat, san francisco we get Beat By.
- 1:00:44Speaker 7: San diego so we kind of had that back.
- 1:00:45Speaker 9: And FORTH and i remember Right After, san diego coming
- 1:00:48Speaker 9: home from, That trip bill coming in and talking to
- 1:00:51Speaker 9: me and, Just, saying hey you're. Doing fine we're on the,
- 1:00:54Speaker 9: right PATH and i don't want you thinking about this or.
- 1:00:58Speaker 9: The other just keep doing what. You're doing you're. Our
- 1:01:00Speaker 9: guy and that gave me confidence when He said i've got.
- 1:01:03Speaker 9: Your back you're. Our guy and he told me that
- 1:01:06Speaker 9: straight to. My face, and look you don't get a
- 1:01:08Speaker 9: lot of That. From bill you don't get a lot.
- 1:01:09Speaker 9: Of reassurance it's do, your job all. That stuff but
- 1:01:12Speaker 9: the fact that he did say that kind of was
- 1:01:15Speaker 9: a turning point for ME because i think the next
- 1:01:17Speaker 9: Week was denver and we went out and had a
- 1:01:19Speaker 9: heck of a night and from there we started to
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- 1:02:56Speaker 3: This week tony is the REAL m vp for getting A.
- 1:02:59Speaker 3: Belt forduce i'm still a little Unsure why deuce didn't do,
- 1:03:04Speaker 3: that himself but this act of Kindness from tony has to.
- 1:03:07Speaker 6: Be acknowledged but also that belt.
- 1:03:09Speaker 9: Is.
- 1:03:10Speaker 5: CRAZY okay i, have, well first a couple. OF things
- 1:03:13Speaker 5: i didn't have a CHANCE like I literally i Got in.
- 1:03:15Speaker 5: TUESDAY night i got to, THE hotel i went to.
- 1:03:17Speaker 5: THE bar i had a couple of Drinks with tony
- 1:03:19Speaker 5: and a couple other guys from. The TEAMS then i
- 1:03:21Speaker 5: went up and went. TO bed i, got up we
- 1:03:23Speaker 5: had eight. O'CLOCK interviews i went right to, the thing
- 1:03:25Speaker 5: and so by, EIGHT am i don't even Know when tony.
- 1:03:27Speaker 5: Got it, i'm like where did you, go to like
- 1:03:29Speaker 5: a country western store to get this? Ridiculous belt But there's,
- 1:03:33Speaker 5: I'm glady i'm glad he brought. This up there's a
- 1:03:35Speaker 5: further part of this story now for, those interested which
- 1:03:37Speaker 5: a lot of people were not interested in this ESSAY
- 1:03:39Speaker 5: that i wrote about.
- 1:03:40Speaker 4: My belt it was IT was i. Was interested it was.
- 1:03:44Speaker 2: TOO long i just asked for the cliff.
- 1:03:46Speaker 5: Notes first it was like my wife was Literally like
- 1:03:50Speaker 5: i'm not reading.
- 1:03:50Speaker 4: All this, i'm like.
- 1:03:51Speaker 5: Come On so i'm getting ready to get go to
- 1:03:55Speaker 5: the Airport from Indy and, i'm like this belt.
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: IS wait i don't know if you guys saw the
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: picture of.
- 1:03:58Speaker 5: The belt there's a lot, of metal it's very it
- 1:04:00Speaker 5: WAS like i was on the last loop of, it
- 1:04:01Speaker 5: Anyway like i'm going to take, it off roll, it
- 1:04:03Speaker 5: up put it in my suitcase here at, the Hotel
- 1:04:05Speaker 5: and i'm not going to wear a belt on. The
- 1:04:06Speaker 5: plane just be done. WITH it i, get home where's.
- 1:04:10Speaker 5: THE belt I lost. TONY'S belt i lost that. METAL
- 1:04:13Speaker 5: belt i had the other belt for like. Fifteen years
- 1:04:16Speaker 5: somehow it fell out of. MY bag i have.
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: No idea.
- 1:04:21Speaker 2: This was a bag. You checked this was A bag.
- 1:04:23Speaker 5: I checked that was, my life had all my clothes,
- 1:04:27Speaker 5: in it all, my toiletries like it was my.
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: Luggage BAG that. I gone the belt.
- 1:04:31Speaker 5: Was gone so just so, YOU know i got a,
- 1:04:34Speaker 5: new belt but it's the twelve dollars doesn't.
- 1:04:36Speaker 4: Fall out how many days were YOU in i, Don't
- 1:04:39Speaker 4: know Tuesday to friday and you checked. A, BAG.
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: Well i just didn't want to deal.
- 1:04:42Speaker 5: With IT usually i gotta wait for, people anyway or,
- 1:04:44Speaker 5: CHECKING bags i, don't care, You KNOW so.
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: I apologize i.
- 1:04:48Speaker 5: DIDN'T know I saw tony this morning and he checked,
- 1:04:50Speaker 5: my BELT and i didn't have the heart to tell
- 1:04:51Speaker 5: HIM that i, lost that, you know beautiful country.
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: Western belt he.
- 1:04:55Speaker 4: Got me but HOW did i? Lose it original.
- 1:05:00Speaker 7: The ONE that?
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: I loved did? YOU read i DON'T know.
- 1:05:02Speaker 16: I DID and i just don't understand what, Discipline kids
- 1:05:06Speaker 16: AND like i don't know if it fell off in
- 1:05:07Speaker 16: the machine or LIKE what, I mean i did Turn
- 1:05:10Speaker 16: and I'M like i would have grabbed IT if i,
- 1:05:12Speaker 16: saw it but it just it.
- 1:05:13Speaker 5: Wasn't there and, you KNOW like i grabbed, my bag pulled,
- 1:05:15Speaker 5: my COMPUTER and i started.
- 1:05:16Speaker 7: With BELTS well i DID.
- 1:05:19Speaker 8: Get i say, pre check so you don't have to
- 1:05:22Speaker 8: worry about.
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: All this the worst part of that, story though was
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: how little.
- 1:05:25Speaker 5: They cared like it was like they looked at me
- 1:05:27Speaker 5: for like a millisecond OR like i, Don't, Know like,
- 1:05:30Speaker 5: i'm like.
- 1:05:32Speaker 4: That's, funny also you also don't always have to take
- 1:05:36Speaker 4: off your, Belts.
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: Again paul she, was like you can leave your.
- 1:05:39Speaker 5: Shoes on i'm, like Great and i'm LIKE and i
- 1:05:41Speaker 5: went to put my hat and now she could leave the,
- 1:05:42Speaker 5: Hat Too and, i'm like how about the belt and, she's,
- 1:05:44Speaker 5: like oh probably leave.
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: It on i'm, Like probably like are?
- 1:05:48Speaker 4: You like it?
- 1:05:49Speaker 16: Was?
- 1:05:49Speaker 2: BIZARRE right i DO have tsa.
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: PRE check i don't do.
- 1:05:53Speaker 6: It doesn't because if you, have that you don't but
- 1:05:55Speaker 6: you still need to tell them if.
- 1:05:56Speaker 7: You have you.
- 1:05:57Speaker 5: KNOW what i started to get sick OF the tsa
- 1:05:59Speaker 5: PREACH check colt because my wife just joined, it too
- 1:06:01Speaker 5: and everybody's just like how great. It is but then
- 1:06:03Speaker 5: somehow they're always complaining about like it wasn't as, fastest
- 1:06:06Speaker 5: time and the people who went.
- 1:06:07Speaker 2: In the it was, you know it's like you know
- 1:06:11Speaker 2: fast laying on the on the highway like nobody had,
- 1:06:14Speaker 2: it yet so it was. Really fast but like, for
- 1:06:16Speaker 2: PEOPLE like, i said travel, for work like you have,
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: YOUR laptop i usually travel with.
- 1:06:20Speaker 8: An iPad like there's.
- 1:06:21Speaker 5: A lot of so it's not taking stuff out that
- 1:06:23Speaker 5: appeals to You because, I'm like i'm at, that anyway
- 1:06:25Speaker 5: WHERE do i have?
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: TO go i just.
- 1:06:26Speaker 4: PACKED it i don't want.
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: To unpack.
- 1:06:31Speaker 4: It's. SO much i got to get to the.
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: Gate quick so. Two hours i'll, TELL you i have
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: like SIX things i have to.
- 1:06:37Speaker 3: Get good eric's story because he was one of, you
- 1:06:40Speaker 3: know he's the world TRAVELER.
- 1:06:41Speaker 4: Was i think he was the first ever to get
- 1:06:44Speaker 4: early adopter.
- 1:06:45Speaker 3: Early adopter so there was one game where we had to,
- 1:06:50Speaker 3: you know. FLY commercial i forget where it Was and
- 1:06:54Speaker 3: i'm behind HIM and i DIDN'T have T. S A
- 1:06:57Speaker 3: so i'm in a different Line and I'm but i'm
- 1:06:58Speaker 3: watching him and for some reason they were making him
- 1:07:02Speaker 3: show just a little bit more than. He expected and
- 1:07:05Speaker 3: the harm thing that was going on it. Was systerical it.
- 1:07:09Speaker 3: Was hysterical all the rolling of the eyes and the,
- 1:07:13Speaker 3: heavy size and, oh.
- 1:07:15Speaker 2: Well when we got to the Airport on, sunday morning,
- 1:07:17Speaker 2: you know there's a mass exodus to get out from.
- 1:07:20Speaker 8: The blizzard so like it was packed. The airport that.
- 1:07:23Speaker 8: IS busy i seen logan in a.
- 1:07:24Speaker 2: Long time if we didn't have, PRE check i don't
- 1:07:27Speaker 2: know if all of us would have made it. Through security,
- 1:07:29Speaker 2: like it, you know it was going to. Be tight
- 1:07:32Speaker 2: and so even though the line might, be similar it
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: goes so much faster because there's less that you have
- 1:07:37Speaker 2: to do once you get to. The checkpoint, so like
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: it still moves a lot quicker than the.
- 1:07:42Speaker 3: Regular line also in, The newsletter mark says what Circles
- 1:07:47Speaker 3: does fred? Run in when trying to think of something
- 1:07:50Speaker 3: widely loved or celebrated that.
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: You, don't like he came up with?
- 1:07:53Speaker 3: Zucchini palm are people out there extolling the virtues of
- 1:07:56Speaker 3: zucchini Parm and i'm?
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: Missing, It yeah i've never HEARD of.
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: Kini farm people.
- 1:08:01Speaker 4: LOVE it i did kind of chuckle at. That one People,
- 1:08:04Speaker 4: Like WOW.
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: Like i like.
- 1:08:05Speaker 6: Fried zucchini if you have the choice of, chicken palm,
- 1:08:08Speaker 6: veal palm or.
- 1:08:08Speaker 3: Zucchini parm why are you ordering zucchini egg plant parm?
- 1:08:13Speaker 3: The same oh, that's.
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: Right THAT'S when i got.
- 1:08:15Speaker 4: It WRONG then i totally. Fretted that oh that is
- 1:08:19Speaker 4: that makes it so much BETTER.
- 1:08:21Speaker 2: That i totally. FRETTED that, i mean THAT'S what. I meant,
- 1:08:25Speaker 2: I mean i meant.
- 1:08:25Speaker 4: That totally i've never heard of palm in. MY life i, love,
- 1:08:30Speaker 4: zucchini THOUGH but i.
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: Was buying It because, i'm, like well that.
- 1:08:32Speaker 5: Makes SENSE like i love, fried zucchini but it's usually
- 1:08:34Speaker 5: cut up, in wedges but like a big hunk of
- 1:08:36Speaker 5: it WITH sure i.
- 1:08:37Speaker 4: Probably EAT maybe i just make plant farms what you
- 1:08:39Speaker 4: plant farm.
- 1:08:40Speaker 2: IS what i was. Thinking of.
- 1:08:42Speaker 6: That's great so does that change market at all? At
- 1:08:45Speaker 6: all now that it's is egg plant zucchini kind of.
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: The, same no one's like a big long, you know
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: ones like a.
- 1:08:53Speaker 3: Cucumber, One dude yeah wow You and cynthia yah.
- 1:09:01Speaker 4: Boy oh, boy.
- 1:09:03Speaker 2: Okay so, oh okay now. Makes sense eggplant parm not.
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: Zucchini parm.
- 1:09:10Speaker 5: It's fine it's just like a fried delivery system like what.
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: HE like i, Don't know but.
- 1:09:15Speaker 6: Why would you get eggplant?
- 1:09:16Speaker 3: Park mushy PEOPLE like i don't people love, egg plant
- 1:09:21Speaker 3: so that should have been.
- 1:09:22Speaker 4: My.
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: Answer, eggplant, YEAH yeah i.
- 1:09:25Speaker 2: DON'T know i screwed.
- 1:09:26Speaker 4: That one that's like my.
- 1:09:27Speaker 6: SEAFOOD thing i Wish somebody we're all just jumping in.
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: ON like i, don't, know yes zucchini part LIKE what i.
- 1:09:32Speaker 4: WISH somebody I wish i had NEVER heard. I DID
- 1:09:36Speaker 4: when i, READ that i laughed, To myself, i'm like who,
- 1:09:40Speaker 4: The hell like.
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: You weren't hear when he brought it up on. The, show, No, Okay.
- 1:09:45Speaker 3: Yeah so people had several opportunities to, ask you what
- 1:09:48Speaker 3: the hell are you?
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: Talking about, were.
- 1:09:50Speaker 6: LIKE yeah, I know.
- 1:09:53Speaker 8: Alex thing where it, was like, you know it's just above.
- 1:09:55Speaker 4: My head, you know that's definitely. A, possible yeah but as,
- 1:10:00Speaker 4: WE learned i Wasn't, Here thursday MIKE because i was at.
- 1:10:02Speaker 4: A funeral but, no one, you know so as we
- 1:10:05Speaker 4: as we learned in. The open, so.
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: Hey Condolences, so alex that's a follow up for this.
- 1:10:09Speaker 6: WEEK'S newsletter i Need A mia KULPA that i meant
- 1:10:14Speaker 6: to write.
- 1:10:15Speaker 2: That, up, yeah yeah.
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: SHE'S uh i just.
- 1:10:17Speaker 5: Saw, her actually she's listening, over there and she kind
- 1:10:20Speaker 5: of clarified a little of the. DIGS thing I guess
- 1:10:22Speaker 5: cardi b had something to say, about him and then
- 1:10:24Speaker 5: he was getting people at his ig and then he's
- 1:10:26Speaker 5: got it.
- 1:10:26Speaker 2: To leave he said something at a. Concert, drama okay
- 1:10:31Speaker 2: no mention of my fantastic restaurant Review Of saint Almo's
- 1:10:35Speaker 2: versus prime.
- 1:10:35Speaker 8: FORTY seven i thought that.
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: WAS interesting I haven't i still haven't been a skipped. Seven,
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: fantastic yeah you said. BETTER steak i was, much better.
- 1:10:42Speaker 8: MUCH better i went to a.
- 1:10:44Speaker 3: Place In san FRANCISCO that i guess is really hard to.
- 1:10:46Speaker 3: Get into it's like where the mayor goes and everything
- 1:10:48Speaker 3: is Called the House Of. Prime rib literally all they
- 1:10:52Speaker 3: have is, prime rib but, you know. Different cuts but
- 1:10:57Speaker 3: it was outstand how.
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: Do you get the?
- 1:10:58Speaker 5: Primary fred like what is the because, you know like
- 1:11:00Speaker 5: you must have a thing like this is how you
- 1:11:02Speaker 5: have to get prime rib, with this like what?
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: Is well, YOU know i got it last.
- 1:11:05Speaker 1: YEAR and i got kind of torn up.
- 1:11:06Speaker 3: By it, for me It's prime it's it's medium rare
- 1:11:09Speaker 3: baked potato wedge or, blue, cheese salad horse horse radish
- 1:11:15Speaker 3: sauce on.
- 1:11:15Speaker 2: The, side yep that's That's what i'm.
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: TALKING about i like that that. Sounds good but this
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: this place.
- 1:11:21Speaker 3: Was outstanding and they have this thing where they have
- 1:11:23Speaker 3: a big salad comes in this big metal bowl and it's,
- 1:11:26Speaker 3: on ice and then she takes it and she, spins
- 1:11:29Speaker 3: it and the salad, starts spinning and as, it's spinning
- 1:11:32Speaker 3: she's adding in all the, other stuff the dressing and
- 1:11:35Speaker 3: the crew, and everything and it's it's a really.
- 1:11:37Speaker 2: COOL presentation i.
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: DIDN'T know i didn't know. About. That fred that sounds.
- 1:11:40Speaker 5: Pretty good but it's, prime rib like a respected cut
- 1:11:44Speaker 5: of meat in the. STEAK world i think it's.
- 1:11:47Speaker 3: A different part of the animal than, the steak, you
- 1:11:50Speaker 3: know ribbi. Or WHATEVER and i don't think it's held
- 1:11:54Speaker 3: in its high regard as filet mignon.
- 1:11:56Speaker 5: Or ribbi BUT it's i. LOVE it I love i
- 1:12:00Speaker 5: just always go with The file it. Seems easy it's
- 1:12:02Speaker 5: always a nice kind. Of meat don't get maybe a
- 1:12:04Speaker 5: little sauce.
- 1:12:05Speaker 3: On, it yeah but house the prime Rib In. San
- 1:12:07Speaker 3: francisco if you want, to go. You can't there's just,
- 1:12:11Speaker 3: no reservation so don't. Even, try well what strings did?
- 1:12:13Speaker 3: YOU pull i had this guy and you picked me
- 1:12:16Speaker 3: up in. His maserati i'm not.
- 1:12:18Speaker 6: Kidding, Either yeah.
- 1:12:20Speaker 4: So that's one of. Our, Listeners yeah, I'm, serious yeah?
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: Oh really oh?
- 1:12:24Speaker 7: Yeah yeah was It?
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: A christian.
- 1:12:28Speaker 4: It was one of our.
- 1:12:29Speaker 3: Actual listeners, All right speaking, of listeners eight five five past,
- 1:12:35Speaker 3: five hundred let's Go to Eldred In.
- 1:12:37Speaker 4: North carolina What's?
- 1:12:38Speaker 7: Up, eldred hey fellow y'all?
- 1:12:41Speaker 10: Doing Today, Elder, hey evan thanks for the thanks for
- 1:12:46Speaker 10: the report on the. Wide receivers by the time he,
- 1:12:49Speaker 10: CAME over, i WAS like, I said i was staying
- 1:12:51Speaker 10: the beginning of. The season but how y'all feel about
- 1:12:54Speaker 10: their trade for a j if it comes through du maybe,
- 1:12:57Speaker 10: this year, it's not maybe a third?
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: Next, year, YEAH sure i Love, IT now i like.
- 1:13:03Speaker 1: The player i'd love to watch that happen.
- 1:13:05Speaker 4: Next year so that's what a medical INFORMATION On. Aj
- 1:13:09Speaker 4: brown but all these reports about, THE knees i don't
- 1:13:12Speaker 4: know if this is from other teams that are trying
- 1:13:14Speaker 4: to like lessen, the trade, you know package that they
- 1:13:19Speaker 4: would have to, give.
- 1:13:19Speaker 3: Up or if this is truly or maybe his own
- 1:13:22Speaker 3: agent doing it because he wants to get, Traded right
- 1:13:26Speaker 3: and YOU know i, HEARD now i don't know who reported,
- 1:13:29Speaker 3: this first but, you know after all the bluster With,
- 1:13:32Speaker 3: the eagles now a second will get?
- 1:13:34Speaker 2: It done who reported that and is there? Any, VALIDITY
- 1:13:37Speaker 2: well i think that the reporting out of the combine
- 1:13:40Speaker 2: was that the framework is looking a lot like EITHER
- 1:13:43Speaker 2: the dk metcalf trade last year or the Digs from
- 1:13:46Speaker 2: Buffalo to houston trade two off, seasons ago which was
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: a second and a Fifth. For diggs would, YOU yeah
- 1:13:54Speaker 2: I think.
- 1:13:55Speaker 8: I WOULD but i think the the Question.
- 1:13:57Speaker 2: To paul's like about his knees and stuff, like that
- 1:13:59Speaker 2: is last year the tape wasn't, As good and is
- 1:14:02Speaker 2: that because?
- 1:14:03Speaker 8: He's disgruntled is? That money is that because he's?
- 1:14:07Speaker 2: Slowing down like that's something that somebody Like the patriots
- 1:14:12Speaker 2: are gonna have to sift through and decide where they
- 1:14:15Speaker 2: land on because, you know there's a lot of, reasons why,
- 1:14:19Speaker 2: you know is He Just randy Moss in oakland and
- 1:14:21Speaker 2: he just feels like he's kind of wasting a way in.
- 1:14:23Speaker 2: This offense it doesn't really use him and doesn't really
- 1:14:26Speaker 2: feature him the. Right way so he's kind of moping
- 1:14:28Speaker 2: and he's not really, you know going all out or
- 1:14:31Speaker 2: you know what What was so.
- 1:14:32Speaker 3: If the eagles would say no To the, patriots second
- 1:14:35Speaker 3: because it's the, thirty first would you Tell, the, Eagles
- 1:14:37Speaker 3: listen we'll give you a twenty twenty seven second and
- 1:14:41Speaker 3: a third instead of this second and, a fourth.
- 1:14:46Speaker 6: A third, this year a second. Next year would you?
- 1:14:50Speaker 13: Do?
- 1:14:50Speaker 4: That, yeah me if it, was me give him.
- 1:14:53Speaker 10: Every time you're gonna laugh.
- 1:14:55Speaker 7: At me.
- 1:14:56Speaker 10: Oh god on the, Thirty first i'm Getting creates Forselle
- 1:15:00Speaker 10: what i'm getting ro getting because They, get yeah it's gon.
- 1:15:05Speaker 10: Be blocked he's. Sixty five he blocked and he, also
- 1:15:09Speaker 10: RUNS like, i said route different routes and four, three seven,
- 1:15:14Speaker 10: you know forty and everything was pretty good doing. The
- 1:15:17Speaker 10: combine but they got him taking the second round in
- 1:15:21Speaker 10: the second round Fifty Five. San diego unless lets they
- 1:15:26Speaker 10: get the edge and then move up that THAT but
- 1:15:29Speaker 10: i Don't trust woolfling getting getting. Wide, receivers yeah, five,
- 1:15:32Speaker 10: years alright, all right That's what i'm.
- 1:15:36Speaker 1: Looking at, all right, All, right aldred.
- 1:15:38Speaker 7: Thank.
- 1:15:38Speaker 4: You so The aj brown trade thing to me kind
- 1:15:41Speaker 4: of made me chuckle because when everybody, comes back when
- 1:15:43Speaker 4: all you guys come back from, the combine there's a
- 1:15:45Speaker 4: lot Of what i'm, hearing this there's a lot Of
- 1:15:47Speaker 4: what i'm hearing, right WELL what i heard from reading
- 1:15:51Speaker 4: a lot of these recaps Of what i'm hearing is
- 1:15:53Speaker 4: the same Phraseology the eagles are un serious ABOUT Trading
- 1:15:57Speaker 4: aj brown TO which, i say according to? Whom like
- 1:16:04Speaker 4: so in, other words they're looking for more than you're
- 1:16:06Speaker 4: willing to, give them so they're un serious about. Trading,
- 1:16:09Speaker 4: HIM now i have no doubt That the eagles do
- 1:16:10Speaker 4: not want TO Trade. Aj brown they've dealt with him
- 1:16:14Speaker 4: for going on. Three seasons they obviously think he's a
- 1:16:18Speaker 4: big part of their team that they feel they're able
- 1:16:21Speaker 4: to win with this guy sometimes, being disgruntled so they
- 1:16:26Speaker 4: don't want to. TRADE him i agree, With that but
- 1:16:29Speaker 4: why are they unserious if they don't want to just give? Them,
- 1:16:32Speaker 4: Away YEAH like i just and the fact that.
- 1:16:37Speaker 2: It was like three different that's THE way i took
- 1:16:39Speaker 2: it was like three.
- 1:16:40Speaker 4: Different dispatches at the same, exact phraseology un serious about trading,
- 1:16:44Speaker 4: the player which tells Me to, evan's point we're all at,
- 1:16:48Speaker 4: you know, what's it prime, Forty nine prime, Forty seven prime,
- 1:16:52Speaker 4: forty seven and you know we're all sitting around having
- 1:16:55Speaker 4: it at. All times but they're run serious. About that so.
- 1:17:00Speaker 3: So remember when, The paw remember when there, Was rumors
- 1:17:04Speaker 3: remember when there. WAS rumors i think it was about
- 1:17:06Speaker 3: chefter Rumors.
- 1:17:08Speaker 4: About, garoppolo yeah they wouldn't trade four first round first.
- 1:17:11Speaker 3: Round picks if that's what they were, asking for they,
- 1:17:13Speaker 3: then yeah they were un serious about Trading.
- 1:17:15Speaker 4: For garoppolo, and like If the eagles ARE saying i
- 1:17:18Speaker 4: want a first round pick and no one's willing to
- 1:17:21Speaker 4: give more than, a second is that being unserious about
- 1:17:23Speaker 4: wanting to trade them or is that asking for more
- 1:17:25Speaker 4: than you're willing to?
- 1:17:26Speaker 6: Give, up right you can't be serious.
- 1:17:29Speaker 4: Now if you're if you're saying That the eagles are
- 1:17:31Speaker 4: looking for Like The max, crosby thing which is what
- 1:17:34Speaker 4: you know reportedly to first and a good. Young player
- 1:17:39Speaker 4: NOW The aj brown shouldn't be getting that kind of.
- 1:17:41Speaker 4: A deal maybe that could be a little bit more
- 1:17:44Speaker 4: perceived as. Being unserious but just because someone's not willing
- 1:17:48Speaker 4: to just give you their player doesn't mean they're unserious. About,
- 1:17:50Speaker 4: trading well.
- 1:17:50Speaker 2: That's the WAY that i took it From the combine stuff, Was,
- 1:17:53Speaker 2: that Yeah the eagles will listen to your phone CALLS
- 1:17:56Speaker 2: On aj brown and they're not going to give me
- 1:17:58Speaker 2: if you want to offer two first round, and yeah
- 1:18:00Speaker 2: they'll probably make. That trade but they're not. Gonna hit
- 1:18:02Speaker 2: they're not in a business of giving away. Good Players
- 1:18:05Speaker 2: As howie roseman said at, the combine like if you
- 1:18:08Speaker 2: come in here and you blow us away with, an offer,
- 1:18:11Speaker 2: then like, well listen but we're not going to just
- 1:18:13Speaker 2: hand you one of our. Best players it's, all, NEGOTIATION Right,
- 1:18:17Speaker 2: i mean that's what.
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: It is that's and it just starts.
- 1:18:18Speaker 4: Out and then, it immediately, you know devolves into, you
- 1:18:22Speaker 4: know these. Dumb teams they don't, know what they don't
- 1:18:24Speaker 4: know how to make. These Plays, like No the eagles
- 1:18:27Speaker 4: have been a pretty well run organization in. Recent years
- 1:18:30Speaker 4: they've won a lot. Of games, YOU know i don't
- 1:18:32Speaker 4: necessarily think they're head coach is the greatest Coach that i've.
- 1:18:35Speaker 4: Ever Seen but nick won a lot, of games and
- 1:18:40Speaker 4: their their personnel department FROM the gm on down obviously
- 1:18:44Speaker 4: knows what it's doing because they have a lot of.
- 1:18:46Speaker 2: GOOD players, i mean he's Gone To super bowls now
- 1:18:49Speaker 2: twice with two, different coaches two. Different quarterbacks Like They
- 1:18:53Speaker 2: howie roseman WAS the gm of the team that Beat
- 1:18:55Speaker 2: the patriots in seventeen and now he's the team that
- 1:18:58Speaker 2: just Rebuilt the eagles and made it back To Another.
- 1:19:00Speaker 2: Super bowl that's the other thing that worries ME ABOUT.
- 1:19:03Speaker 2: A j brown is like if it comes across that
- 1:19:05Speaker 2: they ended up trading him for like the, Digs packages,
- 1:19:08Speaker 2: like well what what is how? We know like why
- 1:19:10Speaker 2: Why Is howie roseman trading away one of their best
- 1:19:13Speaker 2: players for a second, round pick like you know at
- 1:19:15Speaker 2: the end of the round, Like that that to me
- 1:19:17Speaker 2: would be like a little.
- 1:19:18Speaker 4: Bit alarm Trading With. HOWIE roseman i would immediately be
- 1:19:21Speaker 4: like check my back pocket and see if my wallet was.
- 1:19:23Speaker 2: Still there and kind of like how teams talk about
- 1:19:25Speaker 2: trading With Like sam presty IN.
- 1:19:27Speaker 8: The nba, it's like you, know what like, the thunder
- 1:19:30Speaker 8: the thunder.
- 1:19:30Speaker 4: Okay, basketball yeah it's kind of just like.
- 1:19:35Speaker 2: When, he calls like you, get nervous like, you're like
- 1:19:37Speaker 2: what does? You want? YOU know i feel like that's
- 1:19:39Speaker 2: the Way with Williams.
- 1:19:41Speaker 7: And phelim?
- 1:19:42Speaker 6: What's Up william.
- 1:19:45Speaker 10: How you?
- 1:19:45Speaker 4: All right where?
- 1:19:46Speaker 9: You?
- 1:19:46Speaker 2: Been man?
- 1:19:49Speaker 17: Work here? All? Right, Here man i'm always listening no. Matter, What,
- 1:19:54Speaker 17: Okay okay i'm gonna try and make this short. And
- 1:19:58Speaker 17: brief i'm just gonna say, Two. THINGS evan i don't
- 1:20:01Speaker 17: LIKE the i don't like the News that i'm hearing
- 1:20:03Speaker 17: About the. Brier RECEIVERS that's Bs and i'm gonna. Leave
- 1:20:06Speaker 17: it leave it. LIKE that a guy Named mala co
- 1:20:08Speaker 17: feels that's Who.
- 1:20:09Speaker 7: The patriots was.
- 1:20:10Speaker 17: Looking at he was at. The combine he ran.
- 1:20:12Speaker 7: A four six four who said they were looking.
- 1:20:15Speaker 2: At him, OH no.
- 1:20:18Speaker 17: I don't even want to get. IN that i don't
- 1:20:20Speaker 17: want to, do it and last will not. Leave it
- 1:20:24Speaker 17: i'll leave.
- 1:20:24Speaker 2: This one.
- 1:20:26Speaker 17: I'm with, eldris, too okay because the main person that's
- 1:20:30Speaker 17: been escapegoating, all This Mister. ELLIOT wilf i don't trust
- 1:20:33Speaker 17: you in terms. OF receivers i don't trust you on.
- 1:20:36Speaker 10: Tight end you can't.
- 1:20:37Speaker 17: Drink yet the jury is still out, on, you brother
- 1:20:40Speaker 17: you KNOW what. I mean so we, watched him you
- 1:20:42Speaker 17: KNOW what. I mean so we'll see. What happens uh, the,
- 1:20:44Speaker 17: day gentleman you have a good One and i'm.
- 1:20:46Speaker 7: Always listening, All, right well?
- 1:20:48Speaker 6: Thank you is he tried to trap the?
- 1:20:50Speaker 2: Tight?
- 1:20:50Speaker 6: END yeah, i know he said he wide receiver doesn't trust,
- 1:20:55Speaker 6: that end and, YOU know i.
- 1:20:58Speaker 2: Get it i'm not trying to run Cover For, elliot
- 1:21:01Speaker 2: WOLF but i feel like he's getting blamed a lot
- 1:21:03Speaker 2: for Things that bill, did that like he wasn't even here,
- 1:21:07Speaker 2: For ye like he was not here when They Drafted.
- 1:21:09Speaker 2: Nikill harry SO like i don't You Know, Taekwon Okay
- 1:21:13Speaker 2: like i'll give you, that one, but like, you know
- 1:21:17Speaker 2: you're saying their history with wide receivers like he's been
- 1:21:19Speaker 2: here for the last twenty years drafting to all, These receivers, like,
- 1:21:24Speaker 2: yeah sure, you know BUT like i, Don't KNOW like
- 1:21:27Speaker 2: i feel like it's always comes back To Nik kill
- 1:21:29Speaker 2: harry and, it's, like oh that, wasn't him so it's
- 1:21:32Speaker 2: not hold it.
- 1:21:33Speaker 3: Again again we don't know what that draft process really
- 1:21:37Speaker 3: Was when bill, Was here like what, you Know did
- 1:21:41Speaker 3: elliott really have the, you know the luxury of saying
- 1:21:45Speaker 3: this is who, we're taking right?
- 1:21:46Speaker 4: You?
- 1:21:46Speaker 5: Know, RIGHT well I mean i think was It in
- 1:21:48Speaker 5: indy that he said one of the biggest mistakes that
- 1:21:50Speaker 5: you see teams make not listening to.
- 1:21:52Speaker 4: The, SCOUTS yeah, i think well what, He SAID so, i,
- 1:21:54Speaker 4: MEAN yeah i mean wide receivers are DIFFERENT because i
- 1:21:57Speaker 4: think there was some examples of Busts with Bill without
- 1:22:00Speaker 4: Bill before verabel. Like whatever but the tight, end Thing to,
- 1:22:05Speaker 4: mike's point if we're talking about, tight ends they really
- 1:22:08Speaker 4: haven't done, That, recently.
- 1:22:10Speaker 1: Yeah Twenty with keenan and.
- 1:22:15Speaker 4: They've double dipped in the Past. With belichick but that
- 1:22:18Speaker 4: doesn't mean that's something that they're looking to, do now.
- 1:22:20Speaker 4: YOU know i, keep, saying like let's See What mike.
- 1:22:23Speaker 4: Rabel do, you know we'll figure out in. Due time
- 1:22:26Speaker 4: that's not that's that's not Really A mike rabel time.
- 1:22:31Speaker 12: Know what.
- 1:22:31Speaker 4: HIS moves i think we have.
- 1:22:33Speaker 2: A good Feel For mike rabel, type, players, sure yeah
- 1:22:36Speaker 2: and like more specifically like scheme fits like what, you
- 1:22:40Speaker 2: know as looking at some of these mock drafts That
- 1:22:43Speaker 2: Have zion.
- 1:22:43Speaker 8: Young from miss bring.
- 1:22:45Speaker 1: HIM up i think barthwin, with HIM and i.
- 1:22:47Speaker 2: Think he's a, talented guy but like it's like sixty five,
- 1:22:51Speaker 2: To seventy like he reminds me just from a body,
- 1:22:54Speaker 2: type skill It's Like keon white and so you've already, tried,
- 1:22:57Speaker 2: that right like like you, too, heavy big not good
- 1:23:01Speaker 2: enough outside, the tackle like. THE guy i think we
- 1:23:04Speaker 2: kind of know, that now, You, know like like who's
- 1:23:07Speaker 2: a fit in terms of like the style that, they
- 1:23:10Speaker 2: play their body type like that sort.
- 1:23:12Speaker 5: Of thing do you feel like with edge they would
- 1:23:14Speaker 5: be willing to go smaller and not, as long but
- 1:23:18Speaker 5: for get off.
- 1:23:19Speaker 8: And YEAH like.
- 1:23:20Speaker 1: I washability the way.
- 1:23:22Speaker 2: THE way i look at It with edge, is Like
- 1:23:24Speaker 2: Isn't harold landry his? His guy like that that he
- 1:23:28Speaker 2: drafted Him, In tennessee he's kept him his, Whole career
- 1:23:31Speaker 2: like that's sort of what he. Looks for that's six
- 1:23:34Speaker 2: two six three two fifty two. Fifty five like length
- 1:23:38Speaker 2: is a little bit of an Issue, with landry but
- 1:23:39Speaker 2: they he has the explosedness in the bend that makes up,
- 1:23:42Speaker 2: for it so he's cool. With it like THAT'S why
- 1:23:44Speaker 2: i keep coming back to cash as HELL because i
- 1:23:45Speaker 2: feel like He's Just, Harold landry like Literally Just. Harold
- 1:23:49Speaker 2: landry so like that that's the type, of guy, You
- 1:23:51Speaker 2: Know chase on like six three two, fifty Five Like
- 1:23:55Speaker 2: Ish brandon swittenson six three two, fifty five you, Know
- 1:24:00Speaker 2: sixty so that's like maybe the high end. Of it
- 1:24:03Speaker 2: but he's got the speed and he's got the ability
- 1:24:05Speaker 2: to win with speed off. The edge so like that's
- 1:24:08Speaker 2: clearly their their type of guy at. That position that
- 1:24:11Speaker 2: goes back, to him you Know in tennessee.
- 1:24:13Speaker 3: As, Well yeah Barton poland chefty is saying That the
- 1:24:17Speaker 3: vikings are willing To Trade Jonathan, grinnard greenard give me
- 1:24:22Speaker 3: that every day of, the week twenty eight, reasonable contract high,
- 1:24:25Speaker 3: production player and the trade compensation for sure would be
- 1:24:28Speaker 3: much Lower.
- 1:24:29Speaker 2: Than, crosby yeah he.
- 1:24:30Speaker 1: Was a he was a beast. Out there Poor. Willcam,
- 1:24:33Speaker 1: minisoda yeah that's a.
- 1:24:35Speaker 2: Good one that's another one of these guys fifty five
- 1:24:38Speaker 2: like fits. Their mold, YOU know i just don't Know
- 1:24:40Speaker 2: if i'm giving up a ton of draft picks in
- 1:24:42Speaker 2: a year like this for. Edge rushers there's a lot
- 1:24:45Speaker 2: of guys that don't come with draft capital compensation in
- 1:24:48Speaker 2: free agency and in the draft that you can get.
- 1:24:50Speaker 2: For nothing, so like how much are you really going
- 1:24:53Speaker 2: to give up for a Guy like grenard Who's Not,
- 1:24:55Speaker 2: Max crosby.
- 1:24:56Speaker 3: Like he's a, known commodity you know what, you're, getting.
- 1:25:00Speaker 2: Sure but he's you know what you're getting with the
- 1:25:02Speaker 2: guys in free, agency too and those guys are free,
- 1:25:04Speaker 2: you know it's.
- 1:25:05Speaker 3: Just, money yeah but there's a reason why they're in,
- 1:25:07Speaker 3: free agency and with, the draft you really don't know
- 1:25:10Speaker 3: for sure what.
- 1:25:11Speaker 4: You're, getting well why isn't there a? Reason? WHY no
- 1:25:13Speaker 4: i always look at It like grennard's available and for, trade,
- 1:25:18Speaker 4: Right right but there's a Reason why minnesota is, looking to,
- 1:25:21Speaker 4: you know move on. From, HIM yeah i, don't know
- 1:25:23Speaker 4: but it's the same as. Free Agent, NOW crosby i
- 1:25:26Speaker 4: would put in a different kids Because the raiders clearly
- 1:25:29Speaker 4: do not want. To move it's not the same as,
- 1:25:31Speaker 4: free agent but like they don't want to. Trade them
- 1:25:33Speaker 4: they if they if they end Up, trading crosby it's
- 1:25:35Speaker 4: because they feel like they, had to like he forced
- 1:25:37Speaker 4: their hand and he, wanted.
- 1:25:38Speaker 3: Out right but it's not the same as free agent.
- 1:25:41Speaker 3: Free agent you let a guy get the, free agency,
- 1:25:44Speaker 3: You KNOW like.
- 1:25:44Speaker 4: I think it's very Similar with grenard and. Free Agencies
- 1:25:47Speaker 4: if minnesota is just looking to. Move, on NOW if
- 1:25:50Speaker 4: i don't, KNOW that i don't know the details, OF
- 1:25:52Speaker 4: this i didn't Read the. Schefter post maybe it's the
- 1:25:55Speaker 4: same kind. Of deal grennard just wants to, move on
- 1:25:57Speaker 4: he wants to, be out he wants to be out
- 1:25:58Speaker 4: of There in minnesota, accommodating, him, RIGHT then i would
- 1:26:01Speaker 4: say that's More. Like crosby But if minnesota's, you know Maybe.
- 1:26:05Speaker 2: So schefters he's kind of speculating that it's a. Salary
- 1:26:10Speaker 2: cap but if, that's it they would they would like to,
- 1:26:13Speaker 2: keep him but, you know he's a big contract and
- 1:26:16Speaker 2: they're up against its salary, cab wise and if they
- 1:26:19Speaker 2: get the right.
- 1:26:19Speaker 4: Car they wanted to, keep him they could keep them.
- 1:26:21Speaker 4: Correct right and THAT'S why i think it's very similar
- 1:26:23Speaker 4: to a free agent if like, You know Oway, or
- 1:26:28Speaker 4: mafey you know the's got. Quittye pay these guys, are all,
- 1:26:31Speaker 4: you know reasonably talented players that their teams would very
- 1:26:35Speaker 4: easily be able to retain if they.
- 1:26:36Speaker 2: Wanted to that's my, point is like this is a
- 1:26:39Speaker 2: deep market for, edge rushers especially if you start counting
- 1:26:44Speaker 2: all the guys that might, get traded like you deep free,
- 1:26:47Speaker 2: agency class extremely. Deep draft so like if You're like
- 1:26:51Speaker 2: grinnin's a, good player, but like are you going to
- 1:26:53Speaker 2: go out and offer one of, your first, you know
- 1:26:55Speaker 2: first or second round pick for him when you can
- 1:26:58Speaker 2: just that could be a, new, edge right that's cheap
- 1:27:01Speaker 2: all the Things that, Abel SAID like I just i
- 1:27:04Speaker 2: don't KNOW if i would.
- 1:27:05Speaker 3: Do that but, YOU know i get the asset and,
- 1:27:08Speaker 3: The money like you don't want to do both if
- 1:27:10Speaker 3: you don't. Have to but a lot, of times like
- 1:27:13Speaker 3: THE way i look at, it is you know you
- 1:27:17Speaker 3: need you need, that position and is this guy going
- 1:27:21Speaker 3: to be better than who you would use that draft?
- 1:27:24Speaker 6: Pick for and if the answer, probably yes then it's.
- 1:27:27Speaker 3: Worth doing it's worth giving up the draft pick and
- 1:27:30Speaker 3: paying an established guy the money and losing, that pick
- 1:27:34Speaker 3: because now we've got somebody we know that's going to
- 1:27:38Speaker 3: be plug.
- 1:27:38Speaker 5: And play and if it's a second rounder, or later
- 1:27:41Speaker 5: probably a harder player to project. His ceiling WHEREAS if
- 1:27:44Speaker 5: i could say confidently he'll be Better, than greener maybe
- 1:27:47Speaker 5: not in, rookie year but in a couple, of years
- 1:27:48Speaker 5: it's a little bit easier in.
- 1:27:49Speaker 1: That decision but, you know it's not. Really hot do
- 1:27:51Speaker 1: you know what?
- 1:27:51Speaker 4: You are it's really hard. To know and that's why
- 1:27:54Speaker 4: it's hard to make decisions on these kinds. Of things
- 1:27:56Speaker 4: it's not easy to just be a, you know a
- 1:27:58Speaker 4: professional general manager and know the. Right move but there's
- 1:28:02Speaker 4: a million things that. Go on bill used to, say about,
- 1:28:04Speaker 4: you know the guy is at this, level now and
- 1:28:08Speaker 4: this guy is at, this level but we project in
- 1:28:10Speaker 4: two years this guy is going to be here while
- 1:28:12Speaker 4: this guy is going to be coming on the other.
- 1:28:14Speaker 4: Way around so the second, round Pick to, evan's point
- 1:28:17Speaker 4: in a deep edge class might not be as Good
- 1:28:20Speaker 4: As jonathan grennord, right now but maybe in twenty, seventy's
- 1:28:25Speaker 4: better maybe a twenty. Eighties, better maybe, YOU know.
- 1:28:29Speaker 2: I just, wonder too, you know like how does this
- 1:28:32Speaker 2: help impact the trade market for edge rushers with this?
- 1:28:36Speaker 2: Draft class because we were there for, all week everybody
- 1:28:40Speaker 2: just edge. Classes unbelievable edge class. Is, unbelievable, so like
- 1:28:44Speaker 2: if you're in the market for, edge rushers are you
- 1:28:47Speaker 2: going to go out and pay a free agent a ton?
- 1:28:49Speaker 2: Of money are you going to go trade to first
- 1:28:51Speaker 2: round Picks For max crosby when you can Just Draft david? Bailey,
- 1:28:55Speaker 2: right like, you know like where's that sort of fall into?
- 1:28:58Speaker 8: This thing?
- 1:28:59Speaker 2: AS well i think it's interesting, because sometimes, you know
- 1:29:02Speaker 2: the draft can water down the market where teams, are,
- 1:29:05Speaker 2: LIKE well i don't need to give up a first
- 1:29:07Speaker 2: round Pick For jonathan Grinner because i'm just gonna draft
- 1:29:09Speaker 2: you guys and we'll, recreate them.
- 1:29:12Speaker 5: Force him to wait till after the draft and then
- 1:29:13Speaker 5: maybe you don't get, your guy or then the needs are.
- 1:29:16Speaker 2: Still there Rick, And Riverside.
- 1:29:18Speaker 6: Rhode island it's a lot, Of, ours yeah a lot of.
- 1:29:20Speaker 3: Alliteration there what would be an under the radar move
- 1:29:24Speaker 3: that wouldn't totally. Surprise you can you see An established
- 1:29:27Speaker 3: patriot player? BEING traded, I could.
- 1:29:30Speaker 5: I could I mean i was actually. JUST thinking i
- 1:29:32Speaker 5: MEAN usually i look at just who are the free agents?
- 1:29:35Speaker 5: Next year you know guys who a contract easy, TO move,
- 1:29:38Speaker 5: i mean just running down, The, List Booty henry douglass
- 1:29:40Speaker 5: and One, Who, Hollands, Bradbury, Ellis, Bearinger, JENNINGS dobbs i, You,
- 1:29:45Speaker 5: Know mapu Farms. And pettis those are. THE group, I
- 1:29:48Speaker 5: mean i could see one of. THOSE guys, I mean i,
- 1:29:50Speaker 5: to me it goes back To and i've neglected To
- 1:29:53Speaker 5: add hollands to. The list so next year at wide
- 1:29:54Speaker 5: receiver you're Gonna, Have booty Douglas and hollands.
- 1:29:57Speaker 1: All up they just they they need to get better
- 1:30:00Speaker 1: at the wide. RECEIVER position i just think that if.
- 1:30:02Speaker 5: They go into next year trying to run it back
- 1:30:04Speaker 5: with essentially the, same GROUP and i don't even Know
- 1:30:07Speaker 5: if i'm gonna be happy with just, a rookie like
- 1:30:09Speaker 5: even if you just, plug well now We got, Casey,
- 1:30:11Speaker 5: conceptsion okay but at the same time that better.
- 1:30:15Speaker 3: Way would you feel better if they ran it back with.
- 1:30:17Speaker 3: Wide receiver if, they noticeably at least, on paper got
- 1:30:20Speaker 3: better at. OFFENSIVE line, I.
- 1:30:24Speaker 1: MEAN i i, DON'T know i, DON'T know i don't
- 1:30:26Speaker 1: maybe not maybe not.
- 1:30:28Speaker 2: How MUCH but I Like casey concepts is in a
- 1:30:30Speaker 2: little bit of a. Different, Tier yeah like if you're
- 1:30:32Speaker 2: taking a player, like that like he's, Really good like
- 1:30:35Speaker 2: you're expecting that guy to come in and make an
- 1:30:37Speaker 2: instant impact as a first. Round pick if you told
- 1:30:40Speaker 2: me that all they're going to do is Draft Another
- 1:30:41Speaker 2: kyle williams in the, third Round then i'm, totally, yeah
- 1:30:44Speaker 2: yeah like that that, is, like no that's. Not enough
- 1:30:46Speaker 2: but if they go out and like they kind of
- 1:30:48Speaker 2: fill their other needs in free agency and they kind
- 1:30:50Speaker 2: of clear the deck to take a receiver in the
- 1:30:52Speaker 2: first round And it's Boston or conceptsion or one of
- 1:30:55Speaker 2: those types, Of guys i'm gonna, Be, like yeah that guy's.
- 1:30:57Speaker 8: A dude how do You?
- 1:30:58Speaker 2: Feel? Boston, uh like for specifically in the Prism Of,
- 1:31:02Speaker 2: DRAKE may i, get it like because of the ability
- 1:31:05Speaker 2: to win the ball down the field and the contested,
- 1:31:07Speaker 2: catch ability it's not usually my cup, of tea but
- 1:31:10Speaker 2: like you see on film, of him just like taking
- 1:31:12Speaker 2: balls off guy's heads and stuff, like that and.
- 1:31:14Speaker 8: You're, like okay well That's Like drake may is going to.
- 1:31:16Speaker 2: Love that like you just throw it anywhere near, this
- 1:31:19Speaker 2: guy like twenty five thirty yards down, the field and
- 1:31:21Speaker 2: he's going to.
- 1:31:22Speaker 8: Catch It Like i'll i'll take my Chance To.
- 1:31:25Speaker 4: Drake, may's development because, you know, everybody looks, you know
- 1:31:29Speaker 4: look at how much better he got in, year, Two
- 1:31:31Speaker 4: RIGHT and i think now people kind of looking at
- 1:31:34Speaker 4: that as a, Finished, product well you better hope it's
- 1:31:36Speaker 4: not a. Finished product you better hope that he gets
- 1:31:38Speaker 4: a lot. Better too SO maybe i want to get
- 1:31:41Speaker 4: better at. WIDE receiver I think i was the. ONLY
- 1:31:43Speaker 4: one i think everybody had, edge RUSHER and i totally
- 1:31:48Speaker 4: agree that edge rusher is a. MAJOR need i want
- 1:31:51Speaker 4: to see help on. The offense so my personal need
- 1:31:54Speaker 4: to me is a Weapon For. DRAKE may i think
- 1:31:57Speaker 4: they need to. Get. Something now it might not. Line
- 1:32:00Speaker 4: up i'm not saying that. They're failing i'm not saying
- 1:32:03Speaker 4: they're failing on. That argument by, The way i'm not
- 1:32:08Speaker 4: saying they're failing if they don't take a first round
- 1:32:10Speaker 4: wide receiver by at, Thirty one, like right thirty one
- 1:32:13Speaker 4: is hard, to say like they need to take, this
- 1:32:16Speaker 4: position like you never know how it's going, to unfold.
- 1:32:18Speaker 4: Who's available the value just may not. Be THERE but
- 1:32:23Speaker 4: i think they need to better than they have to,
- 1:32:25Speaker 4: your point dues running. It back they might be better
- 1:32:29Speaker 4: doing That because drake might be that much better and
- 1:32:32Speaker 4: be able to do a little bit more with the,
- 1:32:33Speaker 4: Same GROUP but i don't think. THAT'S enough i think
- 1:32:36Speaker 4: they need to be.
- 1:32:37Speaker 5: BETTER now i Liked what, evan SAID and i think,
- 1:32:38Speaker 5: you know THE position i do feel okay about IS like,
- 1:32:41Speaker 5: i said the developmental right tackle if you could maybe
- 1:32:43Speaker 5: get that in round two. OR three i like having
- 1:32:46Speaker 5: that as, you know part. Of it but you can
- 1:32:48Speaker 5: see there's going to be major turnover at the wide
- 1:32:49Speaker 5: receiver position. Next year regard like, you know whether you
- 1:32:52Speaker 5: want to keep these guys, or not you've got to
- 1:32:54Speaker 5: be prepared.
- 1:32:54Speaker 3: For that Kyle, AND pembroke i keep hearing tackles. The
- 1:32:58Speaker 3: need but what do you guys Think? Of Mark, because
- 1:33:00Speaker 3: bryant he has the size and a year under. HIS
- 1:33:02Speaker 3: belt i think he could be a potential Replacement. FOR
- 1:33:05Speaker 3: moses i Think if.
- 1:33:07Speaker 5: Thurst and Hell the third didn't bump him down. The
- 1:33:09Speaker 5: list THAT'S what.
- 1:33:10Speaker 1: I meant, I knew, I knew, I knew i knew
- 1:33:15Speaker 1: it wasn't on the til.
- 1:33:15Speaker 5: My TONGUE but i was a little, YOU know i
- 1:33:17Speaker 5: would have been excited if he had worked his way
- 1:33:19Speaker 5: into the into that third. Tackle role and, you know
- 1:33:21Speaker 5: and it clearly they didn't trust him yet they went
- 1:33:24Speaker 5: out and got.
- 1:33:24Speaker 1: Another guy and.
- 1:33:25Speaker 4: We're not seriously going to sit there and say a
- 1:33:28Speaker 4: seventh round pick is. The answer, Right now i'm not
- 1:33:30Speaker 4: telling you it. Can't be but like, the email like based,
- 1:33:35Speaker 4: on what based, on what based on what, you saw he.
- 1:33:39Speaker 4: Is huge the guy looks like he was built in a.
- 1:33:42Speaker 4: Tackle factory he looks exactly the way you would think
- 1:33:46Speaker 4: a tackle.
- 1:33:46Speaker 2: Should look it Looks Like morgan moses ten years andy.
- 1:33:49Speaker 4: Was picked in the. Seventh, round yeah so why and
- 1:33:53Speaker 4: he's a, tackle now maybe he's going to be one of.
- 1:33:57Speaker 4: These guys THERE'S the nfl is littered with really good
- 1:34:00Speaker 4: offensive lineman That would day. Three Picks so i'm not
- 1:34:02Speaker 4: telling you. It's impossible if there's a position that it,
- 1:34:05Speaker 4: can happen it's. Offensive line it probably happens at that
- 1:34:09Speaker 4: spot more than. Any OTHER but i. DON'T know i
- 1:34:12Speaker 4: don't KNOW how i can just sit there, and, say
- 1:34:14Speaker 4: well it's hard when, You, saw no we don't have
- 1:34:15Speaker 4: to worry. About you We Have. Marcus brown you.
- 1:34:17Speaker 1: Do nothing no evidence to go off of that they.
- 1:34:20Speaker 5: ARE excited i mean maybe, they are but based on
- 1:34:22Speaker 5: the playtime, this year there's no evidence that they're excited
- 1:34:25Speaker 5: to have.
- 1:34:25Speaker 10: A thing you know.
- 1:34:25Speaker 2: IT is i mean like the fact that he couldn't
- 1:34:27Speaker 2: become the jumbo tight end and the sixth offensive lineman
- 1:34:29Speaker 2: and when he was built in the tackle factory there
- 1:34:32Speaker 2: mumfer was Doing that like, That's disappointing like if he
- 1:34:35Speaker 2: was gonna that's exactly how you break a young guy
- 1:34:38Speaker 2: in that's not ready, to start but he is ready
- 1:34:40Speaker 2: to have.
- 1:34:40Speaker 16: A role.
- 1:34:41Speaker 8: You, Know yeah, nate's older but that's exactly what.
- 1:34:44Speaker 2: You do Dan and Virginia.
- 1:34:45Speaker 3: And Michigan regarding paul's lament about fans concerning themselves with the,
- 1:34:49Speaker 3: Salary cap i'm not one of, those People but i'm
- 1:34:51Speaker 3: wondering if fans questioning a player's salary cap number as
- 1:34:54Speaker 3: a Holdover. From Belichick during bill's tenure as, head coach
- 1:34:57Speaker 3: we got used to his focus on value in players
- 1:35:00Speaker 3: getting cut or traded because your contract numbers were. Creeping
- 1:35:03Speaker 3: up so salary cap numbers were often part of the.
- 1:35:06Speaker 3: OFFSEASON discussion i, don't know just. A, theory.
- 1:35:08Speaker 6: No that's a.
- 1:35:09Speaker 4: GOOD point i Agree with dan and as that's why people.
- 1:35:14Speaker 4: Do it BUT what i want to know is at
- 1:35:17Speaker 4: what point do you look at that and say that that.
- 1:35:19Speaker 4: WAS wrong i know they used to have themselves potential
- 1:35:22Speaker 4: championships by doing things.
- 1:35:24Speaker 3: Like this they used to have a formula of it
- 1:35:27Speaker 3: was percentage of the cap that a. Person had, you
- 1:35:30Speaker 3: know you had to be a certain level of player
- 1:35:32Speaker 3: to take up a certain percentage of.
- 1:35:34Speaker 8: The cap most teams do it by percentage of cap
- 1:35:38Speaker 8: and not just the.
- 1:35:38Speaker 2: Raw number it makes, no SENSE but i think the
- 1:35:41Speaker 2: difference is, is like just to maybe make the case
- 1:35:43Speaker 2: on the, other side, is like if you have earmarked
- 1:35:48Speaker 2: twenty six million Dollars For, stefan diggs we all know it's, really,
- 1:35:53Speaker 2: Cash right, so like if they're spending that twenty six
- 1:35:56Speaker 2: million Dollars On, stefan diggs. They're not they don't have
- 1:35:59Speaker 2: that twenty six million dollars to go spend on. Somebody
- 1:36:01Speaker 2: else so is there a better way to spend the
- 1:36:04Speaker 2: twenty six. Million Dollars and i'm not saying. There is i'm, just,
- 1:36:07Speaker 2: saying like if that's the way you're looking at it's
- 1:36:09Speaker 2: not no cap space. Is, Fugazi, No no.
- 1:36:11Speaker 4: I'm talking that's what my. Whole point. IT'S money i.
- 1:36:15Speaker 4: Get IT and, I again, I'LL say i Understand Why
- 1:36:17Speaker 4: robert kraft cares, about IT but i don't understand why
- 1:36:19Speaker 4: play like fans care.
- 1:36:21Speaker 2: About it i'm, ACTUALLY no i don't even but they
- 1:36:24Speaker 2: LOVE playing gm.
- 1:36:25Speaker 4: Because but it doesn't really Work that, SO okay i
- 1:36:28Speaker 4: think it's twenty Million that digs would earn. Next year
- 1:36:32Speaker 4: his cap number is bigger, than that but HIS salary
- 1:36:34Speaker 4: i think is, twenty million twenty point six or something.
- 1:36:37Speaker 7: Like that.
- 1:36:39Speaker 4: So if you don't give that, to him.
- 1:36:43Speaker 16: You let.
- 1:36:44Speaker 4: Him go oh and that's twenty million we have to
- 1:36:47Speaker 4: spend ON who i need someone who's better than him to.
- 1:36:52Speaker 4: Substantiate THAT and i don't necessarily think you just automatically. Get,
- 1:36:58Speaker 4: better now if you're going to, tell, Me well i'm
- 1:37:00Speaker 4: going to let him Go because i'm going to make
- 1:37:02Speaker 4: a big run at, You Know, alec pierce and he's
- 1:37:05Speaker 4: going to cost more. Than, That OKAY now i can talk.
- 1:37:08Speaker 4: ABOUT that i think he's a. YOUNGER guy i think
- 1:37:10Speaker 4: he's a totally. Different, player OBVIOUSLY maybe i can talk
- 1:37:14Speaker 4: myself INTO that i can be BETTER and i can
- 1:37:16Speaker 4: use that those. Resources better but the whole IDEA of
- 1:37:20Speaker 4: I want digs BACK because i really like, the player
- 1:37:23Speaker 4: but not at. Twenty million it's got to be. AT
- 1:37:24Speaker 4: sixteen i don't. Get that i'll never, get it and
- 1:37:28Speaker 4: people are infatuated.
- 1:37:29Speaker 5: WITH it i like his bigger, point though about things
- 1:37:31Speaker 5: that over twenty years you kind of just got lulled
- 1:37:34Speaker 5: into thinking was the best way to do it because
- 1:37:36Speaker 5: that was The way bill was doing it And the
- 1:37:38Speaker 5: patriots were having success for the great majority of those.
- 1:37:41Speaker 5: Twenty years but as you get away, from IT and,
- 1:37:43Speaker 5: i mean just to use the most big, example of,
- 1:37:46Speaker 5: you know the coach acknowledging, YOUR existence.
- 1:37:48Speaker 4: I guess the biggest THING that I that i'm sort
- 1:37:52Speaker 4: of confused by is how people haven't figured out that
- 1:37:54Speaker 4: that's not why they. WON yet i don't know how
- 1:37:57Speaker 4: many years are going to go by before you realize
- 1:37:59Speaker 4: when and they used to tell you that was why,
- 1:38:01Speaker 4: they won and you. Bought it at, some point did
- 1:38:05Speaker 4: you stop Believing In santa claus they won Because Of
- 1:38:07Speaker 4: tom brady and the other good players that they had
- 1:38:10Speaker 4: to go along. With them, and oh by, The Way
- 1:38:12Speaker 4: bill belichick was one of, the best if not the
- 1:38:15Speaker 4: very best coaches that has. Done it it wasn't because
- 1:38:18Speaker 4: they nickel and, dimed everybody, Right, right.
- 1:38:20Speaker 2: Yeah there's some maybe truth to like the sustainability aspect,
- 1:38:24Speaker 2: of it in, terms of like they were really good
- 1:38:28Speaker 2: in the heyday of like staying ahead of, roster problems
- 1:38:33Speaker 2: like they'd never until, the end they didn't get caught
- 1:38:35Speaker 2: with their pants down at big positions Like Drafting nate
- 1:38:38Speaker 2: solder because You Knew matt light was running out. Of
- 1:38:41Speaker 2: time now they were in a luxury of being able
- 1:38:43Speaker 2: to do something like that because their roster was pretty.
- 1:38:46Speaker 2: Stacked everywhere, but like those were the types of things
- 1:38:50Speaker 2: that they were they were they did that isn't, Necessarily
- 1:38:53Speaker 2: MONEY but i think it's like a lot, of teams,
- 1:38:57Speaker 2: you Know Like, Kansas City Like kansas City Traded tyreek
- 1:39:00Speaker 2: hill because, they said we are going to spread that.
- 1:39:04Speaker 2: Resources around Now that mahomes's extensions, kicking in.
- 1:39:07Speaker 4: It's the, Same thing we're going to use. That money
- 1:39:11Speaker 4: and that Would Criticize. Kansas city the same way because
- 1:39:15Speaker 4: you didn't want to pay. The Money and i'm not
- 1:39:17Speaker 4: even Talking About. Tyreek hill i'm talking about the state
- 1:39:20Speaker 4: of their roster because they had a quarterback that was
- 1:39:22Speaker 4: so good and made them so relevant no matter what
- 1:39:25Speaker 4: they had, around him until it finally wasn't. Good enough
- 1:39:28Speaker 4: so think of this past Year For, kansas city like
- 1:39:31Speaker 4: say nineteen For, the patriots when suddenly he just isn't
- 1:39:35Speaker 4: good enough to win all by himself anymore the way
- 1:39:38Speaker 4: he did for, ten years and you let it deteriorate to.
- 1:39:41Speaker 4: This point And to, evan's point it was always these
- 1:39:44Speaker 4: quality Drafts that bill, would have and you would Have
- 1:39:47Speaker 4: high Tower and Jones and Collins, and soldier and he'd
- 1:39:51Speaker 4: have these guys ready, to go until all of a sudden.
- 1:39:55Speaker 4: He didn't till all of a sudden It Was malcolm
- 1:39:58Speaker 4: Brown And. Dominique, easley now all of, a sudden we
- 1:40:00Speaker 4: don't have any.
- 1:40:01Speaker 5: Replacements, left, yeah, YEAH yeah I mean i was just
- 1:40:03Speaker 5: Thinking About paul and to, your point you know they didn't,
- 1:40:06Speaker 5: DRAFT well i don't think in two thousand, and six
- 1:40:08Speaker 5: two thousand, and seven two thousand, and eight and then
- 1:40:10Speaker 5: you got to two thousand and nine and they kind
- 1:40:12Speaker 5: of were caught at the defensive end position when you're
- 1:40:15Speaker 5: going out To Get derek burgess off the scrap heap
- 1:40:17Speaker 5: just to fine pass rush and then to your point
- 1:40:19Speaker 5: ten you get. Some guys nikovich emerges and all of
- 1:40:22Speaker 5: a sudden.
- 1:40:23Speaker 4: Or nine it was a twenty Twenty Five bills chiefs
- 1:40:28Speaker 4: reset For, the patriots, you know Like. The bills the
- 1:40:31Speaker 4: two thousand And nine patriots were able to make the
- 1:40:33Speaker 4: playoffs and not do anything when they. Got There the
- 1:40:36Speaker 4: chiefs obviously we weren't even. That successful but that's. It
- 1:40:40Speaker 4: happens even when you're. Really good you have a YOU have,
- 1:40:44Speaker 4: i mean everybody has. A budget i don't dismiss the
- 1:40:46Speaker 4: money because everybody has. A budget there's nobody that runs
- 1:40:50Speaker 4: any business that says money is. No object we can
- 1:40:53Speaker 4: just burn it all that We were eagles might do it,
- 1:40:55Speaker 4: that way, YOU know, I mean i mean usually, IN
- 1:40:59Speaker 4: football i, would say Like The Los angeles dodgers do
- 1:41:02Speaker 4: do it. That, way yeah they seemingly have. No budget
- 1:41:05Speaker 4: now they defer all the money and someday they're going
- 1:41:07Speaker 4: to have to pay.
- 1:41:08Speaker 1: It all but.
- 1:41:10Speaker 3: It works Dan and Virginia and michigan Also said fred
- 1:41:14Speaker 3: regarding your recent questioning about whether there's been a sports
- 1:41:16Speaker 3: person who won big without having that fierce. Competitive fire
- 1:41:20Speaker 3: what About. Beorn bord not really familiar, with him but
- 1:41:23Speaker 3: he seemed to be at the top of the game.
- 1:41:25Speaker 3: With in my oppression is that he was always a,
- 1:41:26Speaker 3: low key. Quiet personality he was, low key but.
- 1:41:30Speaker 2: He, was very.
- 1:41:30Speaker 6: Very, competitive yeah.
- 1:41:32Speaker 4: It's yeah and he also quit at, twenty, four right
- 1:41:34Speaker 4: because you know he, lost, yeah right which was kind
- 1:41:39Speaker 4: of like just destroyed the whole thing.
- 1:41:41Speaker 12: For.
- 1:41:41Speaker 4: Me yeah, oh yeah. He retired he retired early because
- 1:41:44Speaker 4: he suddenly lost.
- 1:41:46Speaker 6: To, McEnroe, yeah well he, Started losing That's what.
- 1:41:49Speaker 4: I'm saying he couldn't, beat McEnroe and, he's like.
- 1:41:51Speaker 3: How many times do you think he lost To? MAC androe,
- 1:41:54Speaker 3: i think, you know they had he beat him, early
- 1:41:56Speaker 3: on and then he. STARTED losing i don't know what
- 1:41:59Speaker 3: the final talent, it was but, BUT.
- 1:42:01Speaker 4: Yeah i Don't think fred's point is low key. Personality quiet,
- 1:42:07Speaker 4: you know you don't have to be outwardly fiery to be. Insanely,
- 1:42:10Speaker 4: competitive YEAH and I think borg was pretty competitive and
- 1:42:14Speaker 4: then all of a sudden he.
- 1:42:15Speaker 3: LOST it i read, his BOOK and I read Agassy's
- 1:42:18Speaker 3: book borg's book was black.
- 1:42:20Speaker 2: Very vanilla agassy's book.
- 1:42:22Speaker 4: WAS out I read.
- 1:42:23Speaker 1: Agay's book yeah it. Was, cool, yeah yeah they were
- 1:42:26Speaker 1: seven and seven.
- 1:42:28Speaker 5: All, time yeah but what were the last EIGHTY One
- 1:42:31Speaker 5: us opens and Eighty one Wimbledon while borg won The eighty.
- 1:42:35Speaker 5: Wimbledon FINALS so i think mac and roe was three
- 1:42:38Speaker 5: and one In The grand Slam.
- 1:42:39Speaker 4: Fim borg Won five wimbledons in, a row and then
- 1:42:42Speaker 4: he finally lost to McEnroe in that. Epic match AND
- 1:42:46Speaker 4: then i think shortly thereafter he called it was what.
- 1:42:49Speaker 1: Was the original question of a sports figure who were
- 1:42:52Speaker 1: just Talking about like.
- 1:42:53Speaker 2: We're talking about this a, little BIT and i think
- 1:42:56Speaker 2: football is harder to find them, really easy and basketball
- 1:43:01Speaker 2: like like, really easy like those Guys Like, kevin durant like,
- 1:43:06Speaker 2: you Know even lebron to an extent is like kind
- 1:43:09Speaker 2: of not that was always like kind of the big
- 1:43:12Speaker 2: knock on him is that he wasn't Wired like Jordan
- 1:43:14Speaker 2: or kobe or one of those. Like killers i've Talked about,
- 1:43:18Speaker 2: Jokic Before like jokic like.
- 1:43:20Speaker 4: Would rather ride his horses and getting that fight the. Other,
- 1:43:24Speaker 4: day yeah look in, his eyes guys like kind of
- 1:43:27Speaker 4: frightened me it.
- 1:43:28Speaker 8: Doesn't care do you?
- 1:43:29Speaker 1: See that do you guys see that competitive shine through?
- 1:43:31Speaker 5: In HOCKEY like i get what. You're saying in basketball
- 1:43:33Speaker 5: seems like a. Great disparity there's.
- 1:43:35Speaker 2: Guys Like steph curry is the nicest guy on.
- 1:43:36Speaker 5: Right, and then but there are also guys IN the
- 1:43:38Speaker 5: nba that are Creat like kobe you. Know so, BUT
- 1:43:41Speaker 5: hockey i have trouble thinking of guys that stand out for.
- 1:43:45Speaker 5: Their competitiveness not to say that, THERE aren't I just i,
- 1:43:47Speaker 5: don't think, you know, With football IT'S like i think
- 1:43:49Speaker 5: about How Competitive tom brady WAS and i saw that
- 1:43:51Speaker 5: firsthand and, annoying COMPETITIVE and i don't really ever remember
- 1:43:54Speaker 5: getting that vibe.
- 1:43:55Speaker 1: WITH hockey i don't Know Different.
- 1:43:57Speaker 2: Tim, Duncan, Yeah Tim tim duncan said like words his
- 1:44:01Speaker 2: entire career and was one of the best players of
- 1:44:04Speaker 2: his zero like, you like there's all sorts of guys
- 1:44:06Speaker 2: like that IN. The nba, but yeah that's one of
- 1:44:08Speaker 2: those kinds. Of, Sports yeeah zach And.
- 1:44:11Speaker 3: The ranch i've been listening for a long TIME and
- 1:44:13Speaker 3: i heard a lot of Stories about, paul's youth from
- 1:44:15Speaker 3: occasional fights to his success with. The ladies i'm Picturing
- 1:44:19Speaker 3: young paul partying while wearing a disco shirt and a
- 1:44:21Speaker 3: coke spoon around.
- 1:44:22Speaker 7: His Neck That's.
- 1:44:23Speaker 3: Fred hopes and then then a couple of weeks ago
- 1:44:26Speaker 3: we Learned that paul lived at home until his. Mid
- 1:44:29Speaker 3: TWENTIES now i can't stop cracking up with the idea
- 1:44:31Speaker 3: Of young paul going out drinking with, his friends getting
- 1:44:34Speaker 3: into a, bar fight doing a bump, of cocaine then
- 1:44:37Speaker 3: bringing a lady back to his. CHILDHOOD bedroom i can
- 1:44:40Speaker 3: even imagine his mother cooking them both breakfast in.
- 1:44:42Speaker 4: The morning, That. Happened paul that's, way off, way off.
- 1:44:46Speaker 4: Way off and by, the way never did a drug in.
- 1:44:51Speaker 4: My life, yeah no that's not even a. SINGLE one.
- 1:44:56Speaker 3: I know what, you mean, illegal, drugs, illegal. Ilicit, recreational
- 1:44:59Speaker 3: YEAH wish i could say the Same, thing.
- 1:45:02Speaker 8: Paul Like peak paul at. THE combine i want to
- 1:45:04Speaker 8: know what that, was LIKE because.
- 1:45:05Speaker 1: I saw i saw him in your? Final days there?
- 1:45:08Speaker 4: Was that was that the last one you?
- 1:45:09Speaker 3: Went to my?
- 1:45:11Speaker 1: First one your? Last one did you?
- 1:45:12Speaker 4: GO again i think we went a. Few, times, yeah
- 1:45:15Speaker 4: yeah it.
- 1:45:16Speaker 1: WAS great, i mean we told the story about the open,
- 1:45:18Speaker 1: bar stuff but IT was i, don't know it's. Just
- 1:45:20Speaker 1: different it.
- 1:45:21Speaker 2: Was fun did you guys read?
- 1:45:23Speaker 3: THIS story i thought it was INTERESTING when i read
- 1:45:25Speaker 3: it the first time about why they run the forty At.
- 1:45:28Speaker 2: The, combine yes And poor barth like has brought this
- 1:45:31Speaker 2: up for like the entire time HIM and i have
- 1:45:34Speaker 2: been doing. Shows together and then somebody tagged us in,
- 1:45:36Speaker 2: the tree like did you? Know this i'm like you,
- 1:45:38Speaker 2: Literally everything i'll.
- 1:45:39Speaker 3: Read, it short. It's, short so uh do you know
- 1:45:44Speaker 3: why we run? The forty, not ten not, one hundred.
- 1:45:46Speaker 3: But forty before we had, a draft teams would just
- 1:45:49Speaker 3: sign College. All americans the small school kids might be able,
- 1:45:53Speaker 3: to play but how do we standardize how fast? They
- 1:45:55Speaker 3: Are paul brown estimated that, on average a punt travels
- 1:45:59Speaker 3: from foot to a receiver's hand about forty yards in
- 1:46:02Speaker 3: about four and a.
- 1:46:03Speaker 2: Half seconds it's a punt.
- 1:46:04Speaker 3: Gunner Drill gil brandt took it, from him and when
- 1:46:07Speaker 3: the first ever scouts went to, find talent that is
- 1:46:11Speaker 3: what they were. Looking for when we Opened the combine
- 1:46:13Speaker 3: in nineteen, eighty two we made these kids run the
- 1:46:16Speaker 3: forty to standardize.
- 1:46:17Speaker 2: The, test, okay, yes interesting.
- 1:46:22Speaker 8: It's a consistent catch twenty two joke that takes a lot.
- 1:46:26Speaker 4: Of, sense hey do you know why they run?
- 1:46:28Speaker 8: The forty, i'm, LIKE yeah.
- 1:46:29Speaker 4: I too you know why bart is so infatuated with.
- 1:46:31Speaker 4: Special teams it all goes back to the, special Teams DOESN'T.
- 1:46:35Speaker 2: Maybe i don't think there was any specialists that that participated,
- 1:46:39Speaker 2: this year which.
- 1:46:39Speaker 8: Was disappointing every once.
- 1:46:41Speaker 2: In a while you get like a kicker was a
- 1:46:43Speaker 2: disappointed kicker or punter that can kind of fly and, it's,
- 1:46:46Speaker 2: like wow that punter can run a four, To six
- 1:46:48Speaker 2: like that's. Pretty, cool Yeah did barth go to? The
- 1:46:52Speaker 2: combine he? Did not, oh no miss a shame To His.
- 1:46:56Speaker 5: Super bowl it must have been sports was probably, too
- 1:46:58Speaker 5: low too low draft picked issh like the.
- 1:47:00Speaker 1: Fourth, overall well he.
- 1:47:01Speaker 2: Was also At The super bowl for eight days to
- 1:47:03Speaker 2: the budget over budget and he. Got sick, he's Fine.
- 1:47:08Speaker 6: But i'm surprised he, Didn't, Say look i'll pay my
- 1:47:10Speaker 6: own way and Stay.
- 1:47:11Speaker 2: WITH evan i made. The offer there's always a room on,
- 1:47:16Speaker 2: the floor, not open. No bed you guys wouldn't share? A,
- 1:47:20Speaker 2: bed no?
- 1:47:20Speaker 6: What's wrong you get a.
- 1:47:21Speaker 8: King's.
- 1:47:22Speaker 2: Room absolutely mike was on the.
- 1:47:24Speaker 4: OTHER side i did have those.
- 1:47:28Speaker 2: AREN'T pillows i did have to.
- 1:47:36Speaker 3: Let's see Brendan and edmonton get ready for the insert
- 1:47:41Speaker 3: player here has gained twenty pounds of muscle and is
- 1:47:44Speaker 3: in the best shape of. His life tropes coming this
- 1:47:46Speaker 3: Offseason after rabel challenge players to get stronger based on
- 1:47:50Speaker 3: distributing the weight based on what, we've seen is the
- 1:47:53Speaker 3: team committing to any uniform combination for the. Upcoming season
- 1:47:57Speaker 3: the looks looks maxing of the blue and silver and
- 1:48:00Speaker 3: white on white seemed to mog.
- 1:48:03Speaker 2: The opponents in twenty. Twenty five he's looking using a lot.
- 1:48:05Speaker 6: OF words i don't understand it.
- 1:48:06Speaker 1: Looks mog i've been hearing this.
- 1:48:09Speaker 4: Mog world what does? MAG mean i.
- 1:48:10Speaker 1: Don't know it just has come. Across dominate does?
- 1:48:13Speaker 2: It, mean yeah it's like kind, of like, you know,
- 1:48:15Speaker 2: Like So kyle hamilton had a tweet where he was framed.
- 1:48:19Speaker 2: Mob right that's because it Was they they did a
- 1:48:21Speaker 2: still frame of comparing him. To another oh and it
- 1:48:25Speaker 2: kind of like it kind Of Dissed, kyle hamilton like
- 1:48:28Speaker 2: he was worse than the.
- 1:48:29Speaker 5: Other guys this is a sline term for, overwhelmingly, outshining
- 1:48:32Speaker 5: dominating or looking much better than someone else in terms, of,
- 1:48:35Speaker 5: appearance fitness or.
- 1:48:37Speaker 1: Social, status, yeah okay, good.
- 1:48:39Speaker 4: Job, ev yeah that was a Reasonably, Good yeah I'M
- 1:48:44Speaker 4: glad i looked.
- 1:48:44Speaker 3: That.
- 1:48:44Speaker 8: Out good i'm not really a fan, Of It like
- 1:48:48Speaker 8: i've been hearing it a, lot Lately and, I'M like i.
- 1:48:50Speaker 3: Don't know there are no new uh color Combinations that
- 1:48:54Speaker 3: i've heard of for uniforms coming up.
- 1:48:55Speaker 12: This.
- 1:48:56Speaker 3: Year, no no it seemed like, they want like if
- 1:48:59Speaker 3: they ever wear the white on white After The, Super, bowl,
- 1:49:01Speaker 3: YEAH yeah i think.
- 1:49:03Speaker 2: THEY will, i mean they had a great record and it.
- 1:49:05Speaker 6: They did that's why that's why.
- 1:49:07Speaker 4: They went did they have a great record in?
- 1:49:09Speaker 5: Every uniforms they never lost on The, road romantics it
- 1:49:15Speaker 5: seemed like they liked the blue on. Gray more it
- 1:49:17Speaker 5: seemed like we got that a. LOT more i don't
- 1:49:18Speaker 5: did we see the blueberries? Again AFTER like i thought
- 1:49:21Speaker 5: they were Like.
- 1:49:22Speaker 6: The ravens They were bills blue and blue On Blue.
- 1:49:25Speaker 2: RAVENS baltimore i think they wore them one. MORE time
- 1:49:29Speaker 2: i can't remember which the.
- 1:49:30Speaker 1: Bill because the bills. Were, there.
- 1:49:32Speaker 2: Yeah, bills yeah it might have Been. The BILLS but
- 1:49:34Speaker 2: i agree that the the blue on blue it seems
- 1:49:38Speaker 2: to be it seems to be dead for the, most part.
- 1:49:41Speaker 4: So they were Blue on blue that Night at buffalo.
- 1:49:44Speaker 4: The season can't can't do?
- 1:49:46Speaker 7: That again? Right right.
- 1:49:50Speaker 2: Ford And.
- 1:49:50Speaker 3: SAVANNAH georgia i love the idea and internet reports Of
- 1:49:53Speaker 3: pairing Digs. With brown the ONE thing i don't understand
- 1:49:57Speaker 3: is the said Report saying diggs needs to restructure his
- 1:49:59Speaker 3: contra in order to make.
- 1:50:00Speaker 6: It happen can you? EXPLAIN that I think i kind
- 1:50:03Speaker 6: of think it's a little BIT.
- 1:50:04Speaker 3: Of bs, it's like if you Like, aj brown just
- 1:50:07Speaker 3: eff and, get them why would you Play with?
- 1:50:09Speaker 6: Diggs contract aren't there other ways? His contract is it even?
- 1:50:12Speaker 7: THAT big?
- 1:50:14Speaker 4: I agree?
- 1:50:15Speaker 9: WAS it?
- 1:50:16Speaker 1: I MEAN am? I wrong isn't it more about?
- 1:50:17Speaker 5: The cash and like it's like a high cap low
- 1:50:20Speaker 5: cash situation where they need to switch it to give
- 1:50:22Speaker 5: them more cash and maybe potentially lower. The cap and
- 1:50:24Speaker 5: my misunderstanding THAT though i.
- 1:50:26Speaker 8: Think it's difficult to.
- 1:50:27Speaker 4: Do that they don't want to. PAY him, i mean
- 1:50:29Speaker 4: if they didn't want to, do it they don't want
- 1:50:30Speaker 4: to pay them twenty, million dollars but that's sort, Of
- 1:50:32Speaker 4: SALARY like.
- 1:50:33Speaker 2: I don't know who, They is like everybody's just kind
- 1:50:35Speaker 2: of Assuming the patriots don't want to, do that and
- 1:50:37Speaker 2: nobody From the patriots has really.
- 1:50:39Speaker 4: Said, That well i'm just going off of the unserious
- 1:50:42Speaker 4: uh intentions to Trade aj brown the same kind of
- 1:50:46Speaker 4: recaps of all included variations Of restructuring. Diggs's contract it's
- 1:50:53Speaker 4: A so i assume it's coming from some people Within.
- 1:50:56Speaker 2: The patriots you do, wonder if like, you know it
- 1:50:58Speaker 2: was a kind of a one, year commitment Yeah, to
- 1:51:01Speaker 2: digs and so for, both sides like If, your digs
- 1:51:04Speaker 2: don't you make the CASE like i just your. Best
- 1:51:06Speaker 2: receiver it's at a thousand yards coming off of TORN
- 1:51:08Speaker 2: acl i would, you know double teaming me in? The
- 1:51:11Speaker 2: playoffs like, you know what would you guys have been
- 1:51:13Speaker 2: last year? Without me and Then the patriots can look out,
- 1:51:16Speaker 2: and say you're a thirty three year old receiver with
- 1:51:18Speaker 2: the with the bum k me like, you know.
- 1:51:20Speaker 4: It's coming off a very disappointing stretch drive.
- 1:51:23Speaker 8: Right right.
- 1:51:25Speaker 6: Let's see anthony has a tight.
- 1:51:28Speaker 3: End plan he says It's Easy Keith Hunter Henry signed
- 1:51:31Speaker 3: kohler draft one of the past catching. Tight ends if
- 1:51:35Speaker 3: the edge and tight end draft class is as deep
- 1:51:37Speaker 3: as we think, it is then we can easily draft
- 1:51:39Speaker 3: tight end at thirty one in edge in the second
- 1:51:42Speaker 3: round or.
- 1:51:42Speaker 2: Vice, versa well there's nobody at thirty one at tight
- 1:51:47Speaker 2: End unless, sadik falls which is not going to happen after,
- 1:51:50Speaker 2: THE combine i, Don't think but, you know the tight
- 1:51:54Speaker 2: end sweet spot's going to be probably the mid to
- 1:51:59Speaker 2: end a second round into the fourth and fifth round. Like,
- 1:52:01Speaker 2: that likelu there's like probably like ten guys within that
- 1:52:05Speaker 2: cluster that are all going. TO go I think stowers
- 1:52:08Speaker 2: will probably be the first one out of that group
- 1:52:10Speaker 2: and then it will kind of fall in line. From there,
- 1:52:13Speaker 2: but yeah nobody had. Thirty one there's kind of, a
- 1:52:16Speaker 2: Doughnut as deuce likes, to say Between where sadek is
- 1:52:20Speaker 2: going to go and then where the run is going.
- 1:52:21Speaker 8: To, start.
- 1:52:23Speaker 3: Garrett he has his plan for, the line, He says
- 1:52:27Speaker 3: my hope for this offseason is a sign a veteran
- 1:52:29Speaker 3: left guard and draft a young right tackle to Learn
- 1:52:31Speaker 3: from moses for. A year looking ahead to the twenty,
- 1:52:34Speaker 3: seventh Season if campbell doesn't, work out you only have
- 1:52:37Speaker 3: to worry about left tackle because you already drafted your
- 1:52:39Speaker 3: right tackle in.
- 1:52:40Speaker 4: Twenty, six, yeah no, on paper that. MAKES sense i
- 1:52:45Speaker 4: do think only Is as evan just kind. Of eluded.
- 1:52:51Speaker 2: That's a big what if you only have to worry
- 1:52:53Speaker 2: about the most important position, The line but other, than,
- 1:52:56Speaker 2: that right it seems like we're all, in AGREEMENT and
- 1:52:59Speaker 2: i think it's relatively straightforward to add a left guard
- 1:53:03Speaker 2: with some experience and draft a right tackle that has
- 1:53:06Speaker 2: SOME developmental i don't think you really need to reinvent
- 1:53:09Speaker 2: the wheel beyond that. This Year if campbell, flops again
- 1:53:13Speaker 2: then we have. That conversation but assuming that he goes
- 1:53:16Speaker 2: back to the way he was playing pre, knee, INJURY
- 1:53:20Speaker 2: right i think he's gonna.
- 1:53:21Speaker 1: Be, fine well then the issue becomes how much are
- 1:53:23Speaker 1: you paying this veteran?
- 1:53:23Speaker 5: Left guard and is he removable if you do want
- 1:53:26Speaker 5: To slide campbell over to that left, guard spot or
- 1:53:28Speaker 5: do you now have a guy making a lot of
- 1:53:30Speaker 5: money that's already there that, YOU know, i mean maybe
- 1:53:34Speaker 5: then you slide.
- 1:53:35Speaker 2: Him around but That's why i've kind of gravitated maybe
- 1:53:37Speaker 2: a little Bit, towards botonio because like that's a one
- 1:53:40Speaker 2: year like they did this With Like brian waters right
- 1:53:43Speaker 2: where they just like would bring in like for one
- 1:53:45Speaker 2: year of like a, super vet and it's kind of
- 1:53:48Speaker 2: what they try to Do, With, morgan Moses and, bradbury
- 1:53:51Speaker 2: like can you do That with botonio for a year
- 1:53:54Speaker 2: and then maybe draft another guard in the middle rounds,
- 1:53:56Speaker 2: is like throw him In with wilson and you know
- 1:53:59Speaker 2: some of the guys you're trying to develop and then
- 1:54:01Speaker 2: maybe in twenty seven you're handing the job over to
- 1:54:03Speaker 2: a second year player or something.
- 1:54:05Speaker 3: Like That h Tyler and ludlow needs AN updated. Pu,
- 1:54:08Speaker 3: shirt yeah so he has a trivia Game For. Paul
- 1:54:12Speaker 3: uh he says there are seven players that Have Won
- 1:54:15Speaker 3: SUPER bowl mvp but never were voted To A. Pro
- 1:54:18Speaker 3: bowl six of those players have ties To, the patriots
- 1:54:21Speaker 3: as they have either played For the patriots at some
- 1:54:23Speaker 3: point in their career or they Beat the patriots in
- 1:54:26Speaker 3: the playoffs the year THEY.
- 1:54:27Speaker 6: Won mvp who are?
- 1:54:29Speaker 3: Those?
- 1:54:29Speaker 2: Players Wow?
- 1:54:31Speaker 4: Nick Foles De Branch nick foles is not One Of
- 1:54:34Speaker 4: NICK foles i believe Was A.
- 1:54:35Speaker 13: Pro.
- 1:54:35Speaker 4: Bowl Oh deon branch. Is Correct Deon branch okay ties To.
- 1:54:42Speaker 4: The patriots six guys or ties either.
- 1:54:44Speaker 3: Beat them or was played. With them, Hu, hmm yeah
- 1:54:53Speaker 3: only two of them actually played with them out of,
- 1:54:56Speaker 3: the six, So yeah i'm having a. Hard Time Jim,
- 1:55:01Speaker 3: plunkett Okay Super Bowl Fifteeneen, Desmond, howard okay.
- 1:55:11Speaker 4: THIRTY one i should have gotten. That one You. Got Branch, Joe,
- 1:55:14Speaker 4: Flacco Jesus joe flacco was never At The.
- 1:55:17Speaker 2: Pro bowl maybe not, first balance he was literally At The,
- 1:55:21Speaker 2: PRO bowl i think like two.
- 1:55:22Speaker 8: Weeks ago and.
- 1:55:23Speaker 4: Wait, a minute never voted To A. Pro, bowl no
- 1:55:26Speaker 4: but so what does that have to do With?
- 1:55:27Speaker 3: The patriots he was he played With the patriots at.
- 1:55:31Speaker 3: One Time, Joe Flacco, oh flacco he said he beat
- 1:55:35Speaker 3: them in. The playoffs, oh yeah forget it the year
- 1:55:38Speaker 3: they WON.
- 1:55:39Speaker 4: THE mvp i thought we were just doing Like The.
- 1:55:41Speaker 4: Super bowls i'm going to go on every. Single team
- 1:55:44Speaker 4: he was like a.
- 1:55:44Speaker 8: Seventeenth Alternate But joe claco was just In The Pro,
- 1:55:47Speaker 8: bram No but i'm not.
- 1:55:48Speaker 4: ACCOUNT mad i thought there would have been a year,
- 1:55:50Speaker 4: like no, you know quote unquote in his prime where
- 1:55:53Speaker 4: he was he Was A. Pro.
- 1:55:54Speaker 6: Bowl Yeah julian edelman was the, other One And kenneth
- 1:55:58Speaker 6: walker the.
- 1:55:59Speaker 2: THIRD was i Don't Want.
- 1:56:01Speaker 4: Malcolm smith wontedman never went To The.
- 1:56:03Speaker 11: PRO bowl i don't.
- 1:56:04Speaker 2: Think, So wow flacco interesting.
- 1:56:07Speaker 4: Twenty five he's even more OVERRATED than, i, thought, hmm okay.
- 1:56:14Speaker 3: A. Tough question so you GET your. T shirt That's
- 1:56:18Speaker 3: a alex is a very. Good question make sure you get,
- 1:56:21Speaker 3: that email get HIM a. T shirt that's a very.
- 1:56:23Speaker 3: Good question not JUST because i didn't.
- 1:56:25Speaker 4: Know it that's a.
- 1:56:26Speaker 1: GOOD ball i was surprised that You Missed, desmond HOWARD
- 1:56:29Speaker 1: who i.
- 1:56:30Speaker 8: Should have got if you didn't make it as a
- 1:56:32Speaker 8: returner like he never MADE.
- 1:56:34Speaker 4: Like i should Have Gotten. DESMOND howard i would have
- 1:56:37Speaker 4: thought he.
- 1:56:38Speaker 3: Made it, All, right, well listen we're gonna but that's
- 1:56:43Speaker 3: going to be it for this Edition Of. PATRIOTS unfiltered
- 1:56:47Speaker 3: i got to figure out why mixed up zucchini, and
- 1:56:50Speaker 3: EGGPLANT but i did egg plant?
- 1:56:53Speaker 2: Parm?
- 1:56:54Speaker 3: Overrated overrated why would you get egg? Plant parm unless you're,
- 1:56:59Speaker 3: a VEGETARIAN then i. Can understand but if you can get,
- 1:57:02Speaker 3: chicken palm veal palm or, eggplant parm you got to have.
- 1:57:06Speaker 4: The meat which one would be?
- 1:57:07Speaker 6: Your choice veal, veal absolutely one, hundred percent, all day.
- 1:57:11Speaker 1: Every DAY what i Don't think i've had veal? Parm
- 1:57:14Speaker 1: ever oh really it's, Really Good but i'm piece of.
- 1:57:18Speaker 1: Fried meat they gotta, Kill them evan. The farm they
- 1:57:21Speaker 1: don't need all. These mails chicken don't?
- 1:57:24Speaker 2: Chickens? Are yeah?
- 1:57:27Speaker 3: YOU ever i drove Down To virginia beach a couple,
- 1:57:30Speaker 3: of times and if you go on a, certain route
- 1:57:32Speaker 3: you go buy all the.
- 1:57:33Speaker 6: Chicken factories oh does?
- 1:57:36Speaker 1: It, smell yeah that's like the Five.
- 1:57:37Speaker 5: In california they got a slaughterhouse there along the, five
- 1:57:40Speaker 5: cows the slaughterhouse five. Slaughterhouse something no?
- 1:57:44Speaker 2: Read that, all right.
- 1:57:45Speaker 3: That's it we'll See, you thursday catch twenty, two TOMORROW
- 1:57:49Speaker 3: big nerd.
- 1:57:50Speaker 2: Ten o'clock, all right, all, right yeah forty Times.
- 1:57:54Speaker 4: The south bark picture we.
- 1:57:56Speaker 1: Just, covered.
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