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Hawkeye talk with Eliot Clough, Bill Bender on College Football & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  Our number 2, Miller and Condon, welcome back.
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  Glad you're with us. We'll take you until 2:00 in
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  this next hour. Momentarily, Elliot Cliff
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  hotguyinsider.com, part of 24/7 sports.
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  We'll do basketball, men's and women's and some football for
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  Elliot. That's coming up.
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  Bill Bender covers college football.
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  That's his primary beat over at The Sporting News.
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  We'll talk to him at the bottom of the hour.
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  Trent will make some pics. Boys, a brutal slate of college
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  hoops again tonight. Did you?
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  Oh, absolutely. And you found a couple.
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  Of this, well, it's finals week. It's every year.
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  I know, I know, every year, but doesn't mean it's not brutal.
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  It is. It's hockey night in the Miller
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  house. Anyways, let's get to Elliot
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  Clef. He joins us talk some Hogs.
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  Hello, Elliot, Trent and Ken, how are you?
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  Good. How are you guys?
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  Doing well press conferences today.
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  Seems like Jen Jensen met with the media, making maybe some
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  news when it comes to Emily Rodriguez.
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  Just the fact that this continues to linger.
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  How's this going to end, Elliot? As far as you know, will she
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  remain a hawk? This, this point we're we're all
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  kind of in the dark as to what's going on there.
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  But I guess the longer it goes on with no clarity, you got to
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  start wondering, don't you? Right.
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  Well, to to be frank with you guys, women's basketball isn't
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  my beat. So I'm definitely not the one to
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  to go to on, on a lot of stuff like this, but on talking to a
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  few people around the situation, it it does it it's just it's a
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  little odd, right? And it makes you raise an
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  eyebrow as to how maybe things could be going awry, especially
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  so quickly for a transfer portal edition that you made one of the
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  best programs in the country, one of the best, you know,
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  coaches in the country and Jan Jensen.
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  And so, yeah, I mean, I'd, I'd love to provide more clarity on
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  that, but yeah, right now it it just appears to be a huge
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  question mark. We jump over to the men's side
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  of things, a dominating performance against Western
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  Michigan on the heels of, you know, what could have been,
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  should have been against Iowa State.
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  The opportunity to get that signature victory to really kick
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  off the Ben McCullum era. To do that I thought was
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  impressive. Western Michigan's terrible.
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  They're a bad basketball team. But still, to be able to show up
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  like that right away, put it to him and just keep going, I think
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  that said a lot about this group.
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  Yeah, I think he did too. And honestly, I think we saw it
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  in the Iowa State game when they went on.
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  There were, you know, taken to 22 to four runs from Iowa State
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  in the in the beginning of that second-half, they responded it
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  wasn't like the Michigan State game.
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  I mean, even between those two games, we heard about how how
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  Ben and and the Iowa staff really focused on offense and
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  getting to their sets for their actions, even if the the
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  opposing defense isn't allowing it and and making things happen
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  one way or another offensively. And we saw that happen in the
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  second-half. They really stagnated, but
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  eventually got things going, got an 8 O run against the Cyclones
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  and then, you know, following it up with with a big win against a
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  program that you said it, Trent, not my word.
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  They're terrible. Getting to bounce back when like
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  that is, is really positive. It's like, OK, you know, that
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  sucks. We lost a rivalry game.
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  It's also the first year of the Ben McCollum era.
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  Like you can't be too upset. That was an incredible showing
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  on the road against the top five team in the country with guys
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  like Damon lips beam on Sheila Vich.
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  I mean, you guys know the roster Joshua Jefferson like those guys
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  are stud and for Iowa. Did you do that with mostly a
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  mid major Ross rosters pretty damn impressive and pretty
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  telling of how good of a coach Ben McCollum is.
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  But I think I think honestly the mentality is is there for them
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  to to get right back to their winning ways clearly, and I mean
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  we've just continued to see Tate stage continue to improve and
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  and he played really well against Western Michigan.
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  I think he might be one of the more underrated 2025 recruits in
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  in high major basketball. I mean, he's he's been really
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  good. Yeah, no doubt about it.
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  You know who else I mean that they all of the Drake transfers.
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  We thought Sturtz's game would, you know, would transfer to the
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  Big 10 and he clearly has. But but as I, as I look at the
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  at the rest that came with them, Banks, Combs, Manawao and and
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  and Howard, really all of them, at least thus far, you know,
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  with Big 10 play on the horizon night in and night out, they
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  don't look out of place at all in my for my money, Elliott, how
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  about you? Yeah, of course, you know, you'd
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  love to have Cam Maniow be two or three inches taller, but
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  other than that, you know, Speaking of the mentality, I
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  mean, those guys are just attack, attack, attack gonna
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  what McCollum like to describe Isaiah Howard is as like half
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  nut, half crazy, and you can kind of see it in the way he
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  plays. There's there's no, but I I, I
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  don't know. It's always, like I said, always
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  in attack mode, ready to do what he needs to be.
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  It's a controlled chaos from all of those guys.
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  They're willing to do The Dirty work.
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  Kale Combs is silky smooth, man. Like, I did not think he was
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  going to be this good, let alone this impactful.
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  The nice little floater. He's got a nice little jump shot
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  too. Banks is, I think starting to
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  figure some things out. He kind of disappeared for a few
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  games there, but he was really good the second-half against
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  Iowa State, Yeah. I mean, they've they've really
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  thought, I really, really thought Kale Combs was going to
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  be an end of the rotation guy. But he's been a great, you know,
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  additional ball handler in that starting lineup to take some of
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  the pressure off Bennett Thirst. But yeah, yeah, the Drake guys
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  have been good. Brendan Hassan has been one of
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  the more confounding things. He played a few minutes against
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  Iowa State. He played a few minutes a much
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  more against Western Michigan. What kind of role?
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  Let's say it's the middle February.
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  They're hanging around. They're going to be a tournament
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  team. What part of the rotation is it?
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  Is it maybe 7 minutes a game? Is it pushing up to 15 minutes a
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  game? What do you anticipate?
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  Crystal ballot here is Fort Elliot.
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  What do you think for Hassid as we kind of make our way through
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  the Big 10 Conference schedule? Man, Trent, you know, Dave and I
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  had a conversation about this on Swarm cast last week, I think
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  and I I do think he's one of the top five most talented players
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  on this roster just because he's so good at his given skill set,
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  right? Like he's one of the best
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  shooters in the country. Like the defense is, it's not
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  great, but I don't think it's necessarily bad.
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  Like in what we've seen, it hasn't been awful.
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  I'd like to think that he starts to work his way up closer to 15
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  minutes and and earn some of that trust from the staff to
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  play decent defense, to be, you know, maybe a guy that that
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  brings the ball up the floor a little bit here and there.
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  Honestly, as as just a guy who who loves to watch stellar
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  shooters. I, I, I, I want it to be 15
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  minutes a game. I, I'd probably, I'd probably
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  put it in the middle right there at like 10.
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  It's just a, it's just a strange situation in a roster filled
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  with mid major guys. Your high major player is, is,
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  you know, kind of a reserve. It is in a reserve role.
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  I really thought he'd start from from game one and and that's the
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  way it would be with this team. But yeah, it's it's been odd.
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  It's not quite the Emily Rodriguez situation, but but it
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  is. It is odd.
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  What about Fulgaris? Are are we?
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  I'm not disappointed, but did we?
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  At least I thought that, you know, that the transition would
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  have been smoother. He certainly had his moments,
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  but like the rest of the team, he's about to embark in the Big
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  10. There's a bunch of dudes in the
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  Big 10, you know, that are going to look him right in the eye or
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  he's going to look up at Fulgaris's first go round in the
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  Big 10. How do you think it's going so
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  far as a Hawkeye? I think it's OK.
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  I, I, I think we're all in the same boat of wanting to see more
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  from him because he was brought in to be the secondary playmaker
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  to Bennett Sturtz, right? Like you, you don't bring in an
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  all conference player, even from the mid major program who has
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  that type of skill set and don't look to have him be that type of
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  impactful player. Honestly, guys like I, I think
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  having him start would, really would, would change some things
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  offensively for Iowa. Probably take Tavion Banks out
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  of the starting line up. He was the 6th man of the year
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  in in the Missouri Valley Conference last year.
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  Maybe he's going to be a little bit more comfortable, a little
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  bit more consistently impactful off the bench like an Isaiah
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  Howard. I mean, you look at Isaiah
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  Howard starting those first few games, he looked really
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  uncomfortable and coming off the bench, he's looked much more
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  comfortable and much more confident.
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  Who's to say that flipping that with Banks and Alvaro wouldn't
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  ignite something? I would, I would love to see him
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  start. I, I, I don't know that coming
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  off the bench is something that you can look at it as sort of a
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  spark drug plug roll where yeah, he's, he's not starting, but he
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  provides minutes or provides, yeah, minutes and, and scoring
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  like a starter would. But he hasn't done that off the
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  bench. He's he's done something, he's
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  shown some 3 point build shooting ability.
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  He's obviously got a skill set tailor made by, by European
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  skill coaches, if you will. And I, I, I would love to
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  honestly, like, it's kind of the same thing with Brendan Hosson.
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  I just want to see more. I want to see more.
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  I want to give, see him given more responsibility on the court
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  to be who he is. And I don't know, I don't know,
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  you know, obviously I'm not in practice every day.
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  We're not seeing everything. But man, I I just want to see
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  them given that opportunity and see what they can do with it.
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  So Iowa had their two big 10 games as they've struggled with
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  them historically got to win got the win against Maryland and he
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  looked at the beginning slate UCLA pretty good, really good
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  point guard with Donovan Dent UCLA but a very winnable home
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  game. You go to Minnesota feels like
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  that's one that you have to get. And then after that see line.
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  I could we be talking about this team getting off to a really
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  good start when the UCLA Minnesota game and suddenly that
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  Illinois matchup on January 11th that the conversation may be may
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  be starting to shift in the top of maybe we can actually get a
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  full Carver. Man, I hope so.
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  I don't think, well, other than covering a few women's games
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  here and there, I haven't been part of a full Carver yet in in
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  my few years on the beat. So I hope so.
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  Yeah. Like you said, UCLA is a
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  winnable game. You got to beat Minnesota.
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  I mean, from what I've seen in Minnesota, they're not good like
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  at all. I mean almost lost to UW Green
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  Bay. Like took overtime to get
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  Gottlieb's boys. Exactly.
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  Exactly So which by the way, Bettendorf alum plays for UW
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  Green Bay, Kaden Wilkins for high school basketball fans out
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  there. But yeah, you know, I, I think
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  they the, the, the hope is that they at the very least go 2 and
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  O to start the new year going against UCLA, going against
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  Minnesota. And then you set up for an
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  awesome Big 10 battle. You start to figure out where
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  these Big 10 teams start to, you know, find their spot in in the
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  league, if, if you will, you know what echelon they belong
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  in, whether it's middle of the pack, top, middle, top between
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  programs like Iowa and Illinois, who Illinois just lost to
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  Nebraska at home. I mean, and this Nebraska team
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  is showing some pretty good things.
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  Price Stanford playing really well.
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  Is he ever? Yeah.
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  So that that's the that's definitely something to watch.
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  But yeah, I mean, I think we're going to learn a lot about this
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  team in the next few weeks as as they start Big 10 play,
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  obviously Bucknell coming up in in Des Moines and then UMass
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  Lowell and then things start to get rolling.
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  That's where the season starts to get fun.
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  The Illinois game Sunday, the 11th.
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  That's wild card Sunday in the NFL and that the time is TBD.
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  It's going to be carried on Fox. Doesn't that lead you one to
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  believe that that'll be an early tip on Sunday the 11th because
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  Fox has to get in? I'm assuming Fox has a game on
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  that Sunday. I don't know 100%, but it's Fox
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  in the NFL. I'd be surprised if they don't.
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  Doesn't that lead you to 1-1 to believe that that might be a
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  real early tip on Sunday? Yeah, I guess that would make
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  sense. I haven't looked that far ahead
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  from being honest, Ken. And man, I only have so much
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  room for sports in my brain. So I don't pay that much
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  attention to the NFL. But I yeah, I mean, I guess I,
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  I, I think about you. You got a factor in church on
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  Sunday, too, folks. Don't, don't can't forget about
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  Jesus. So, yeah, I don't know.
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  I don't know what time the the game will fit, but yeah, what
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  your, your, I follow your logic. Makes sense?
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  Let's jump into a little football with you, Elliot.
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  Transfer portal still a couple of weeks away from that thing
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  opening up. We're already hearing names,
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  plenty of quarterbacks more than anything starting to get in in
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  there and the bidding process will begin on that front.
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  What's the latest that you're hearing as the transfer portal
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  as it gets set to open a from an Iowa perspective?
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  In fact, let's start there. Do you anticipate that we're
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  going to see a bunch of names enter the portal?
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  Is it just going to be a handful as it's been in years past?
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  I, I would get a handful and you know, we've got our eyes on on a
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  few position groups starting to hear a little bit more about the
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  running back position group and a few possible entries there.
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  So keep an eye on that. Of course, you know, you look at
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  youngsters that haven't been able to quite to breakthrough,
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  but you know, maybe they end up somewhere else and they get some
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  playing time. So I would, I would probably say
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  a handful at this point. I don't think you're going to
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  see any big, you know, super productive players enter the
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  portal. And that's just necessarily
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  there might be in that running backroom.
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  Keep it, like I said, keep an eye on that.
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  But yeah, right, right now, I wouldn't expect more than that.
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  Maybe 10:10 to 11:50, maybe it's not going to be a lot.
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  I mean, there's, there's obvious, you know, walk on.
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  You can probably make their way to the FCS and find some playing
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  time somewhere. But yeah, I wouldn't expect a
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  ton. Hank Brown, maybe?
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  Maybe yeah, I, I think I told you guys last week that I'd
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  actually heard some Yeah at a, at a bulb prep practice.
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  So we'll see. I it's definitely going to be a
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  battle between him and Hecklinski.
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  I don't want to count out Brown yet.
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  No, I hope they both stay in. I hope they both battle.
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  We've talked about edge rusher. Certainly it's going to be a
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  very costly one if they'll go that direction.
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  Wide receiver? What about kicker?
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  The kid from Bettendorf is a Burr.
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  Do they anticipate he's the starter next year taking over
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  for Drew Stevens? I saw Drew Stevens brother was
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  at wazoo. Is there a connection there?
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  What can you tell us at a position that we know for Iowa
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  football is incredibly important?
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  Right. Right now, just based on what
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  we've seen and and what we know with this team, I would expect
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  Iowa to dip into the portal for a kicker.
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  You mentioned Drew Stevens, brother, He was recruited by
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  Iowa out of high school. Iowa was not going to offer him
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  a scholarship. So we opted to go to South
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  Dakota State and then Washington State.
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  Now you're looking at it as well.
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  He's got experience. You need a kicker.
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  He's a couple years older than Burr.
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  I think that would make a lot of sense.
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  I'm not reporting anything, but I do think that would make a lot
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  of sense if that were to come to fruition.
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  Obviously, it would make sense for him to go to Iowa State too,
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  depending on what Conradi does. Could he be a hot?
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  Who knows? That's that's the I he's a walk
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  on. That's true.
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  We'll see. But yeah, I would not be, I
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  would honestly most likely expect I would go after a kicker
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  because Burr has shown some encouraging things.
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  Just, you know, with with Drew, the one thing that you noticed
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  and like open kids, they practice and and spring practice
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  is the ball just comes off Drew's foot different compared
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  to Kaden Burr. Whereas Kaden Burr's ball kind
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  of lost. So he's still working on that
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  power. We're still working on some of
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  those things to add to his frame.
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  So I I would expect I want to go get maybe a little bit older of
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  a kicker that, you know, you can trust in those situations where,
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  you know, you got to beat Nebraska 1310 at at home this
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  coming year, right? So yeah, that that would make
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  sense to me. Vanderbilt will be the opponent.
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  Diego Pavia made NASA of himself, but he does that kind
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  of weekly, so it's not a big surprise on that one.
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  Mentioned this yesterday, Elliot.
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  There's going to be a lot of casual fans going to be flipping
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  on the TV on New Year's Eve, and I think a lot are going to be
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  rooting for the good black and gold, not their black and gold.
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  Yeah, I mean, he went from a lovable underdog.
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  Wow, don't really like this guy anymore.
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  We're rooting for the, the big or I guess monster program that
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  Indiana has become and Fernando Mendoza over him to win the
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  Heisman. So, yeah, too bad, too bad.
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  You know, I, I think I said it last week too, is that
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  Vanderbilt's kind of become my side team, if you will, that I
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  like to watch a little bit. And I I do like the roster.
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  I think Clarkley's a really good coach.
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  But yeah, Diego not not doing himself any favours.
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  Nope, that's for sure. Elliott Clef, good stuff.
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  You certainly did us a favour, as you do most weeks.
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  Elliott, thanks for jumping on. We will talk to you in advance
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  of that football game, the Reliant Quest on the 31st.
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  Thank you Ellie, appreciate you coming on.
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  Merry Christmas, Happy New Year to you and happy holidays.
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  Thanks pal. Back at you.
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  Bye guys. Yep.
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  Good to talk to you, Elliott Clef as we check in on Iowa and
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  where they go. I I did not realize just there's
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  some winnable games right off the fat bat in the big 10.
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  There are there are. I like it.
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  The UCLA game, that it's a Saturday game, it's at home,
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  feels like that's one where get the crowd going, beat a name
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  opponent, pretty solid team. You get Minnesota on the road
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  and suddenly it sets up that Sunday.
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  Or if that plays out, if, if Iowa actually does that, they're
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  sitting at a 13 and 2. They're in the top 25
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  everywhere. All advanced metrics have them
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  as a top 25 team currently. And they're just out of the AP
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  poll. They're in the coaches poll.
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  They're probably in the top at that point, what, 20 maybe in
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  the country. And here comes Illinois.
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  And we know that by basketball rivalry.
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  God love it. And for our listeners in the
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  Quad Cities, you know it better than even we do.
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  But that rivalry, it mattered. And it still can matter.
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  We've seen that recently where there was vitriol.
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  That's got to be an early tip, Trent.
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  I'm sorry. That has to be early.
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  Please be early. As opposed.
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  Well doesn't it depend on what game gets placed where on Fox?
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  Well, there's there's three games on that day and one of
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  them Sunday night. So one of them is going to be
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  noon, one of them is going to be 325.
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  But if it's a noon game, it's not going to be early.
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  I want to watch the damn basketball game.
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  You can. I know you have ADVR.
• 18:31
  I know, I know, I know. Anyways, it's all about me.
• 18:34
  But yes, then they play Purdue. But then there's some winnable
• 18:37
  games. You know, you go take on to
• 18:38
  Freeze, then here comes Rutgers, USC, there's some winner.
• 18:42
  This is some. You do get a double play against
• 18:45
  Nebraska. Do get a double play against
• 18:47
  Purdue. Only see Michigan, you see him
• 18:49
  again. Only see him once though.
• 18:51
  Michigan State. Done right, they are done.
• 18:54
  Done with Michigan, it's done with.
• 18:55
  Michigan State. Do not do not have the
• 18:57
  tiebreaker. You do get to see Maryland
• 18:59
  again. That's.
• 19:01
  Winnable Rd. game. You know.
• 19:03
  Of the road games. And you said Wisconsin got
• 19:05
  embarrassed last time they played.
• 19:07
  They lost by 30 to Wisconsin or to Nebraska Rd.
• 19:11
  Games winnable Minnesota. Yes.
• 19:14
  Purdue No, no. Can they win in Indiana?
• 19:18
  I think they can. OK.
• 19:19
  I think it's a toss up type game.
• 19:21
  Yeah. Ken, Tom has him a three-point
• 19:23
  underdog possible, Yeah, at Oregon or Washington.
• 19:26
  Feels like he got to win one of those split.
• 19:27
  Yeah, get at least one when you go to the West.
• 19:30
  Coast. Oh my God, this is right up your
• 19:31
  elves. You see what time that the game
• 19:33
  at Washington tips 10:00. Perfect.
• 19:37
  That is perfect. I love that one.
• 19:40
  Yeah. You go to Maryland.
• 19:41
  Winnable. You go to Wisconsin.
• 19:44
  All right. They're favored to win by one at
• 19:46
  Ken Palm in that game. Iowa is.
• 19:48
  Iowa is how about that? At Penn State?
• 19:51
  They got a ton of winnable Rd. games.
• 19:52
  They do. They do say you lose at home to
• 19:58
  Purdue. Yep, maybe one other.
• 20:00
  You go 8 and two in the Big 10, eight and two, you get Ford Rd.
• 20:05
  wins. Yeah, 12 and 8.
• 20:08
  No, you're in. You're well there.
• 20:09
  You're not just in. No, you're well in.
• 20:11
  We're talking about. Taking a couple of days off at
• 20:14
  the Big 10 tournament, Maybe at least one is.
• 20:16
  It is it better to be a seven seed?
• 20:18
  Is it better to be a six seed? That's the kind of conversation
• 20:20
  we're having. Yes, we are.
• 20:22
  How about? That got to get the hand you.
• 20:23
  Know what I I saw? I never clicked on it.
• 20:26
  Damn it. Leonardi came out with that and
• 20:28
  it was way too early. I get it.
• 20:29
  But let me see what he where. He's got the Hawks.
• 20:31
  All right, let's race Leonardi. Come on, Twitter machine.
• 20:37
  All right, here's his bracketology from today.
• 20:40
  Well, Iowa states are one seed. How about that?
• 20:43
  They got the winner of Southern and Norfolk.
• 20:45
  Street he's only This is the first four.
• 20:49
  I got them all here. I got the bracket.
• 20:51
  I got the whole big bracket in front of us.
• 20:52
  Yes, they get the winner. Iowa State of Southern and
• 20:55
  Norfolk State good in the round of 32.
• 20:58
  Either Clemson or Kentucky. Kentucky.
• 21:02
  That's how Fall. Around a 32.
• 21:04
  I don't want that to happen. They would play in Saint Louis
• 21:06
  in this scenario with the Houston region.
• 21:09
  They are the number one seed in the South region in Houston for
• 21:12
  the Sweet 16 and the Elite 8 for the Iowa Hawkeyes.
• 21:16
  Iowa shipped out to Philadelphia where they would face a team
• 21:22
  that clobbered them and a secret scrimmage, the Saint Louis
• 21:25
  Billikens Good Saint Louis 710 game.
• 21:29
  Then they get UConn in the round of 32.
• 21:32
  Well. They're in the dance.
• 21:33
  They're in the dance, Yes. Can just once Iowa have a
• 21:37
  bracket open up, we get a 215 upset.
• 21:39
  And on top of it, for UConn and the most unlikeable figure in
• 21:43
  college athletics? College basketball.
• 21:46
  Might be certainly in college basketball.
• 21:49
  I will take a time out. Bill Bender's next.
• 21:51
  He covers the He covers college football.
• 21:53
  That's his primary beat at THE Sporting News.
• 21:55
  Bill's next Miller in Condon, Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 22:01
  I'm Mary Condon. Welcome back, Iowa Sports Radio
• 22:04
  Network. Wherever you're listening in the
• 22:05
  state of Iowa. We are grateful that you are
• 22:08
  coming up at the top of the hour.
• 22:10
  Off the bench, Lucas Strange, Sean Roberts, take you until
• 22:13
  5:00. Bill Bender covers college
• 22:15
  football, at least that is his primary beat at
• 22:18
  sportingnews.com. sportingnews.com for Bill, we've
• 22:21
  got a full breakdown of the first round of the playoffs up
• 22:25
  and posted. Hello Bill, Trenton, Ken,
• 22:27
  compliments of the season to you and to yours.
• 22:30
  Good to talk to you. Let's get let's get right to
• 22:33
  these games. Do want to spend a little bit of
• 22:34
  time at the end maybe speculating a little bit all
• 22:36
  these quarterbacks and where they may or may not land couple
• 22:39
  in particular. But on we go to Friday night
• 22:42
  Bill, I think that's the headliner.
• 22:44
  I do. We've seen the the Tulane Ole
• 22:47
  Miss game. Obviously Miami A&M has some
• 22:49
  buzz, but I think Friday night is the headliner, don't you?
• 22:54
  I do, but I might be more excited to watch Miami, Texas
• 22:58
  A&M and I don't ask me why. I just you know what I mean?
• 23:01
  Like I I think that might be the more exciting game with
• 23:04
  quarterbacks. The defensive line, Oklahoma,
• 23:07
  Alabama is the headliner, no question.
• 23:09
  And it will probably be another defensive slugfest like last
• 23:13
  two, especially if miss here and Simpson both under 60%
• 23:19
  completion percentages in the last four games.
• 23:22
  So you know who's who, use the break for their advantage then.
• 23:26
  I like Alabama in the game. I don't love the pick.
• 23:31
  Need to see him run the football and not turn the ball over.
• 23:34
  Just got to have a feeling that Miami too on some level, where
• 23:38
  when you've been told you don't belong to two weeks, I think it
• 23:41
  heightens the focus. I'm right there with you.
• 23:44
  I think we're going to get a couple of good games and setting
• 23:47
  the scene for something that I think is going to be good.
• 23:50
  Before we get to the games though, what we saw, the vitriol
• 23:53
  of the committee, the vitriol of the TV show.
• 23:57
  Or do we need to go to 16? Are we going to get to 24?
• 24:00
  What do you think the fallout is initially?
• 24:03
  People are losing their minds, freaking out.
• 24:05
  Is there going to be a fallout? Are we already going to get
• 24:08
  bracket creep? Easy for me to say, and already
• 24:11
  advanced to 16. What is the fallout from what we
• 24:14
  saw a week and a half ago? I'm not looking forward to
• 24:17
  Saturday night. I'm looking I'm not looking
• 24:23
  forward to the tweets about if JMU gets grilled by Oregon or if
• 24:31
  Tulane gets beat in similar fashion like they did to old
• 24:33
  Mess. I mean, because we're going to
• 24:35
  spend a lot of time saying things like, well, Texas should
• 24:39
  be in or well, Notre Dame should be in.
• 24:41
  And you know, we did that last year on some level.
• 24:44
  But I actually think it's going to be worse.
• 24:46
  And answer your question, Trent, I think this is going to.
• 24:54
  Yes, we're losing you, Bill. Bill, we're going to call you
• 24:56
  right back, call you right back. We are we're breaking up.
• 25:00
  I want to get that answer. We got right to that point and
• 25:02
  then they still all these years and it's not a Bill Bender
• 25:07
  thing. It's a it's a cell phone thing.
• 25:08
  It is. I'm with you.
• 25:09
  I think Bill makes an excellent point.
• 25:11
  I think the vitriol is going to be fast and furious on Saturday
• 25:14
  night. Look at ESPN knew it as well.
• 25:17
  They're they were up against the NFL.
• 25:19
  If if they thought that this was a, you know, a good game, they
• 25:22
  wouldn't have been scared to put, you know, I don't think
• 25:25
  anyways one of the maybe the Miami A&M game in that time
• 25:29
  slot, but instead they're going to give us this game.
• 25:31
  Where's a 21 1/2 point 21 and a half 22 points point spread in
• 25:36
  this game? Bill, sorry about that.
• 25:37
  We were we were losing. You finish your point on Trent's
• 25:40
  question, if you would. No, you know, I just think, you
• 25:43
  know, you know, we'll be arguing about teams that should be in
• 25:49
  instead of looking at the teams that will be in.
• 25:51
  And it will probably push us to 16 sooner rather than later.
• 25:55
  Yeah, I think you're probably right.
• 25:57
  Do you give any of the two big dogs a chance to even get make
• 26:00
  this a close? Maybe with the kind of
• 26:03
  uncertainty maybe that's going through old miss with Lane
• 26:06
  Kiffin leaving, etcetera, might that be make a make for a better
• 26:10
  game? Tulane's losing their head coach
• 26:12
  as well, might that be of the two with the big, with the big
• 26:16
  spreads, might that be the better of the two?
• 26:20
  I think so. I think Tulane looked good
• 26:23
  enough in the American Conference championship and they
• 26:25
  weren't a team that was looking like, hey, our coaches leaving,
• 26:30
  they look very focused. I think one thing to keep in
• 26:32
  mind, you know, with Lane, it is going to be different for Ole
• 26:35
  Miss, a different experience. Ritz laughed in that first
• 26:38
  meeting, missed his first nine passes.
• 26:41
  So maybe Tulane changes up how they tackle, miss a little bit,
• 26:45
  can keep on Lacey. That'll be the key.
• 26:49
  But to your point, of the two, I think that one could be more
• 26:53
  competitive. JMU runs the football well, but
• 26:56
  if they can't get a running game going against Oregon, it could
• 26:58
  be a long night at Austin Stadium.
• 27:00
  Yeah, that one has the feeling in Oregon, they've been able to
• 27:03
  put it on teams in the past, and I want to go to Ohio State.
• 27:07
  We're not going to see them, of course, until New Year's Eve,
• 27:09
  when they'll take on the winner of the 710 matchup.
• 27:12
  But the Buckeyes after losing to Indiana, and it was different
• 27:17
  because it's Indiana, it's not Michigan.
• 27:18
  But boy, it felt a whole lot to me like Michigan games the last
• 27:23
  couple of years where they were very conservative.
• 27:27
  They almost played into the style that Indiana wanted them
• 27:30
  to play. What is it about Ryan Day?
• 27:33
  He's got more talent than anybody in the country year
• 27:35
  after year after year. And boy, there is just some
• 27:37
  moments where you say what in God's neighbor you doing?
• 27:40
  And and felt like another one to be against the Hoosiers.
• 27:43
  Yeah, you know, a couple second guess calls in the red zone.
• 27:46
  The goal I, I'll tell you this, our our all American team will
• 27:52
  be out tomorrow. There are quite a few.
• 27:55
  I mean, spoiler alert, there are Ohio State guys all over it
• 27:58
  couple Hawks on there too. You know that you'll look
• 28:00
  forward to seeing them. But yeah, you know, so there's
• 28:05
  still pressure on them. I think they would be the
• 28:08
  betting favorite. If they're not, they should be
• 28:10
  the betting favorite to win this thing.
• 28:11
  But you know, Indiana matched the intensity and kept
• 28:14
  everything in front and made Jillian saying indecisive, which
• 28:18
  was the first time that happened all year.
• 28:20
  So I absolutely think I was beatable.
• 28:24
  Kind of lines up that they might play Georgia in the semi finals
• 28:27
  and then a lot of people want that game to happen.
• 28:30
  I will say this about Georgia. They're the out of those SEC,
• 28:34
  they're the one that has found a way to win all year.
• 28:36
  They run the ball well. Gunner Stockton reminds me of
• 28:38
  Gunner, gunner, Stetson Bennett. They all have outstanding
• 28:42
  quarterback names down there. But, you know, I think he's
• 28:45
  really made good decisions with the ball season.
• 28:48
  Yeah, I do. Are we any closer to at least
• 28:50
  identifying a couple of names that actually make sense at
• 28:54
  Michigan? Bill, where are you with the
• 28:56
  Michigan higher and do you have a couple of names maybe that
• 29:00
  that you think might have a better chance than some of the
• 29:02
  others? Well, I you know, Kenny
• 29:04
  Dillingham's interesting and you know, here's one thing I'm going
• 29:07
  to get on the soapbox for two seconds.
• 29:10
  I don't think coaches should be pegged to their answer.
• 29:13
  Like, you know what, like they're we're making Kenny
• 29:16
  Dillingham say he's staying so we can RIP him if he goes, you
• 29:21
  know what I mean? And if somebody presented you
• 29:23
  with a lot of money, you're going to weigh that opportunity
• 29:26
  while trying to stay at the job you have.
• 29:28
  And I think Kaylin de Boer is probably going to go through the
• 29:30
  same thing, Jed Ish on some level after their bowl game.
• 29:34
  But no, Kenny Dillingham is an interesting fit, young,
• 29:37
  charismatic, He's done a very nice job at Arizona State.
• 29:40
  Whoever they hire, I think 110, they need to break away from the
• 29:44
  hardball era completely. So too many scandals at this
• 29:49
  point. And then two, you do a culture
• 29:52
  builder type that can work with the quarterbacks.
• 29:54
  I mean, if you're worried about Bryce Underwood or a five star
• 29:58
  running back leaving, you're you're worried about the wrong
• 30:01
  things. They need to clean up culture
• 30:02
  there. No question.
• 30:03
  No more scandals. Well, we found out that Dylan
• 30:05
  Rayola is leaving Nebraska and with it, well, there's going to
• 30:09
  be a lot of quarterbacks that are going to get paid.
• 30:11
  What is a potential landing spot?
• 30:12
  What's the place that makes sense for Rayola?
• 30:15
  A guy that we know, he's got an arm, there's no doubt about
• 30:17
  about it. Not a whole lot of athleticism
• 30:19
  and speed in today's college football game.
• 30:21
  Where does a fit make sense for Ayola?
• 30:25
  LSU, Can you imagine Dylan Ryola and Lane Kiffin?
• 30:31
  You know that that can happen. I can see it.
• 30:34
  He has 31 touchdowns, 17 interceptions for two seasons.
• 30:37
  The talents there, though, and and it is the old man of me kind
• 30:41
  of watches these announcements and like really, we're
• 30:44
  announcing that Jayden my office staying at his school, is that
• 30:47
  what we're doing now? And resigning, resigning.
• 30:50
  I'm sorry I got it wrong. You know, this is the world we
• 30:55
  live in though, where you retain the quarterback and it's almost
• 30:58
  like musical chairs in some aspects.
• 31:01
  DJ Lagway is another interesting one to me.
• 31:03
  I mean, it just didn't pan out at Florida for whatever reason.
• 31:07
  Sorry about the music in the background.
• 31:08
  The washer is apparently done. I think that's a context clue
• 31:13
  for my wife while she's gone. Yeah, good stuff.
• 31:16
  Bill Bender, Sporting News. Bill, thanks for jumping on for
• 31:19
  us. Appreciate what you do.
• 31:20
  Merry Christmas to you and yours.
• 31:22
  Have a happy holiday season. Thank you, Bill Bender.
• 31:24
  Appreciate it. Hey.
• 31:25
  Anytime guys, have a great week. Take care bill benders.
• 31:28
  We struggled with the cell phone.
• 31:30
  It was unfortunate but some good info of the top 4 seeds.
• 31:34
  Top 4 who? Who's jettison first?
• 31:39
  Maybe from the semi final? What would that be?
• 31:43
  Semi final? Who doesn't make it?
• 31:46
  Indiana, Ohio State? Georgia.
• 31:48
  Texas Tech? I guess Texas Tech would be the
• 31:51
  answer because. They'd get they get Oregon,
• 31:53
  yeah, by far the most difficult game that they would have.
• 31:56
  I think that's the easy. So let's take away the easy
• 31:59
  answer, OK of the top. Three.
• 32:01
  All right everyone, now you're into.
• 32:02
  ATC that a boy so Indiana against either Alabama or
• 32:07
  Oklahoma. OK.
• 32:09
  Georgia, Ole Miss Ole Miss dispatch is too late.
• 32:12
  You know, they kind of got best past the weirdness of the Week
• 32:15
  1. Ole Miss had them beat in
• 32:16
  Athens. Had them beat.
• 32:19
  Does Ohio State a cinch against either of their opponents?
• 32:23
  I don't think so. If it's Miami, Miami I.
• 32:27
  Wanna see that game on New Year's Eve, Trent?
• 32:29
  They are. I wanna see so.
• 32:30
  Talented upfront. What they did against Notre
• 32:33
  Dame, that was a long time ago. Did we over value Ohio State
• 32:38
  during the season? They were they've been the
• 32:41
  favorite the entire year. They they struggle against Texas
• 32:44
  in week one. A lot of teams struggle in week
• 32:46
  1. I get it.
• 32:47
  They haven't really had the most dauntingest schedule until they
• 32:50
  got, it was easy, OK, until they got to the Big 10 championship
• 32:53
  game and then they finally played an opponent with a pulse.
• 32:56
  We saw what happened. They've been the favorite all
• 32:59
  year long. And I, I, I don't love them.
• 33:02
  I don't. I don't love the offense.
• 33:04
  I don't love Ryan Day in a big spot.
• 33:07
  Yeah, and you should love the offense because they got a
• 33:09
  couple of NFL receivers. I think all three of those
• 33:13
  teams, you can paint a realistic scenario where they lose,
• 33:17
  including the number one Indiana Hoosiers.
• 33:19
  What don't you like about them? They took another injury on the
• 33:22
  defensive line. Yeah, they did the depth that
• 33:24
  they have and Ohio State played a style that worked in that.
• 33:28
  Maybe it's too much that I go back to October and what
• 33:30
  happened in Kennick Stadium. I would have them beat.
• 33:33
  They did. I would have them beat in that
• 33:35
  game. But every team's allowed one of
• 33:37
  those. But I agree with you, I would
• 33:38
  have them beat. And Alabama, if they returned
• 33:40
  Jim Miller, 'cause they couldn't run the ball against.
• 33:42
  No, no. And he's going to play,
• 33:43
  apparently. But what happened?
• 33:44
  What has happened to Simpson? Well, it's been something all
• 33:48
  year long, I've been telling you.
• 33:49
  He led the country in fumbles when you have that.
• 33:52
  But he went through that stretch in October that he looked all
• 33:55
  right. There's the Heisman winner, or
• 33:56
  if not the Heisman winner, I thought this was a guy that
• 33:59
  could win the Heisman. And I never got to that point,
• 34:02
  but if all of a sudden William starts to get involved again,
• 34:05
  which has been a weird season for him, Alabama can absolutely.
• 34:09
  And you know what I'm saying, Alabama could beat Indiana in
• 34:14
  football. This isn't a basketball
• 34:16
  conversation in football. But I don't think it's a
• 34:19
  stretch. I don't think Oklahoma can.
• 34:21
  Oklahoma can only win it one style and I don't think Indiana
• 34:23
  would let them play that style. What about Georgia?
• 34:27
  I think they're fine. I do too.
• 34:29
  I think they're fine. I do too.
• 34:30
  I think it's the two Big 10 schools.
• 34:32
  I put only against Miami, though.
• 34:34
  I don't think A&M can beat Ohio State.
• 34:36
  I think Miami could, and I think Alabama can beat Indiana.
• 34:40
  What order 1221 Big 10 and if that would happen, if we would
• 34:48
  see both Indiana and Ohio State lose in the quarterfinals, oh,
• 34:51
  the SEC wonks would be going. Crazy, that's for sure.
• 34:55
  Marie Condon, Trents plays of the day there.
• 34:57
  Next, you're listening to Des Moines Sports Station one O 6.3
• 35:01
  KXNO. I'm Marie Condon.
• 35:11
  Final couple of minutes. Salute to Veterans bowl tonight,
• 35:14
  Trent. Oh yeah.
• 35:16
  I'm in. You are.
• 35:17
  Yeah, this is one that I had circle.
• 35:19
  This is one of my Friday picks. Still, you still got one left?
• 35:23
  Yes. So how did we do against the
• 35:25
  boys in the afternoon? I think we got him.
• 35:27
  Well, I was awful so. I think we got him.
• 35:29
  I think I carried you again. Well, again, the week before I
• 35:32
  went five and oh, that was the first.
• 35:33
  You went one and. Four, I know, but that was the
• 35:35
  first time. All year.
• 35:36
  Don't say it again. I've been carrying your ass most
• 35:40
  of this contest since we tried to beat these knuckleheads.
• 35:43
  Well, it's not difficult. It hasn't been so far.
• 35:46
  Look at us go, you know what, they're going to snap on off and
• 35:48
  get us in the last couple of weeks of the season.
• 35:51
  So what is the number tonight? I well, there's been a ton of
• 35:54
  steam on the Gamecocks. Jacksonville State is now the
• 35:57
  favorite. And who do you have?
• 35:58
  I have Jacksonville State. And you're getting points.
• 36:01
  I'm getting 2 1/2. All right, I bet this one.
• 36:03
  This was one of my first bets of the season, the bowl season, and
• 36:07
  at the time they were getting 3 1/2, so we're in good shape for
• 36:13
  these purposes, though today it's -1 1/2.
• 36:16
  Do what you will with that information with Jacksonville
• 36:18
  State against Troy so they can run the ball.
• 36:21
  That's all I know. Can they?
• 36:22
  They can run the ball good, got a good running back.
• 36:25
  Where are you going to give us that website you go to for the
• 36:27
  latest injuries, the latest affections, in, in or out?
• 36:32
  Not playing play because I don't know how.
• 36:34
  You bet these games. I truly don't because we're
• 36:37
  going to see changes right up until kick off.
• 36:39
  It is on the Action Network. It's always on the front screen
• 36:42
  there. If you just Google Action
• 36:44
  Network bowl opt in or Stuckey, he is the author of it.
• 36:49
  Bowl game, Stuckey, it'll pop up there, but it's on the Action
• 36:52
  Network. And yes, it is a necessity as
• 36:55
  you're going through and trying to figure out who's in, who's
• 36:58
  out, who's not going to play. Now, we got a decent team
• 37:01
  playing tomorrow, South Florida, but Byron Brown, the great
• 37:06
  quarterback is not going to play.
• 37:08
  He's going to serve it as assistant coach in the game.
• 37:11
  But all this information is stacked up there.
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  So thank you to Stuckey, who is awesome.
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  I really enjoy Stuckey and does really good work and keeps us
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  updated on at least as much information as he can get on all
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  these ridiculous bowl games. What else you betting on?
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  College basketball tonight. Not as bad as you were painting
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  earlier. It's not.
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  Great though is it Louisville, TN does nothing for you.
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  Yeah, OK. I'm going to grab the Cardinal
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  plus the three and a half of that one Georgia Tech Marist.
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  No, I can't believe you're not going to be locked and loaded
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  then won't ACC Network plus tonight for that one, grab 7 and
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  Marist. Georgia Tech's not very good.
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  They're gonna play most state tonight.
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  Missouri State. They have hit the skins of late.
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  Losers of four, their last five. Or Roberts on the other side,
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  Not very good. Lay the four and a half there.
• 37:54
  And finally, it's the NBA Cup. And if you know one thing about
• 37:57
  me, I got to be playing the NBA cup -2 1/2.
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  I'm going to take the Knickerbockers.
• 38:01
  Taking the Knickerbockers. I know my son's giddy.
• 38:03
  He's going to the game. Is he?
• 38:05
  Yes, he can't wait for. He's an NBA fan.
• 38:08
  KG was this guy growing up. I guess that's where he got it.
• 38:10
  But Yep. But I'm sure it's banged out,
• 38:12
  right? Wouldn't it be T-Mobile Knicks?
• 38:16
  Wenban, Yama. Banged out.
• 38:19
  I would love to see a real shot of what the.
• 38:21
  Right. I would too.
• 38:22
  I. Would, Well, we'll have somebody
• 38:23
  there. Yeah, let's give them have Kale
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  snap us a picture and we can put it up on social media and see.
• 38:28
  Because I would just guess and it's just a guess that it's not
• 38:31
  going to be shoulder to shoulder in the upper.
• 38:33
  Like that? What when you and I and Kale and
• 38:36
  Sage went to see the the Olympic teams, right?
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  Team USA against Team Canada. That was great.
• 38:42
  It was fun, except when we tried to get out of there.
• 38:44
  That wasn't much fun. You did not handle situations
• 38:47
  like that very. Well, no, sure didn't.
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  But you know what? I got us home.
• 38:50
  You did got you did get us home. Paid a big price, but we got us
• 38:53
  home anyways. That's if.
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  We would have waited 10 more minutes.
• 38:56
  We would have got home I. Wasn't waiting 10 more minutes.
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  I had to get home and get a. Puff, I did.
• 39:01
  No, a gummy. A gummy, Yeah.
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  Gummy land. Las Vegas, NV tomorrow.
• 39:06
  Cappy on the Bears and the Packers, Mitch Holtis on the
• 39:10
  Chiefs. And what lies ahead for Kansas
• 39:13
  City? And Chiefs had three weeks to go
• 39:15
  for them. We had our Wednesday, January
• 39:17
  set with Mitch Holtis. I know for the last six years.
• 39:21
  Yes. Not this season, no.
• 39:23
  Dave Sinican. Not the same, but I like
• 39:26
  Syndicate a lot. A little more legit.
• 39:29
  A little more Jeff Hughes, maybe.
• 39:30
  OK, Bears going to be hanging around.
• 39:33
  Good stuff. We appreciate you being with us.
• 39:35
  We're out of here. We're going to turn things over
• 39:37
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