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Michigan Man Danton Cole: JD gets back on the ice, Hlinka Gretzky Cup and Jays talk with AV. · NHL Unscripted with Virk and Demers

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  Speaker 1: NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart podcasts.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, episode forty four, coming at you here on
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  Speaker 1: NHL Unscripted.
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  Speaker 2: Hey V and JD. Right to rock.
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  Speaker 1: Is it NHL season yet? JD? This is truly the
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  Speaker 1: dog days of August where you're just lurching towards getting
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  Speaker 1: some hockey talk going. We do have a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of hockey talk coming up, by the way, was not
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  Speaker 1: expecting a little Hextall conversation with Jack Hextall conversation. On
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  Speaker 1: a serious note, we'll be honoring the Gaudreaux brothers and
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  Speaker 1: our special guest day is Danton Cole movie talk. We'll
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  Speaker 1: get into Eddington as well. But this is kind of
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  Speaker 1: that point. JD is a hockey finder going. Okay, we're
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  Speaker 1: almost a couple more weeks training camps, open season previews,
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  Speaker 1: blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I feel like at this point, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the fans that are still listening here to us in August,
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  Speaker 2: they're just waiting for the season to start, just the
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  Speaker 2: way we're all waiting for the seasons to start. It
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  Speaker 2: is one of those things, all the all the storylines,
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  Speaker 2: we're fishing for storylines and things like that, and we're
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  Speaker 2: giving our predictions, but you know, it just goes to
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  Speaker 2: show you that these kind of months are are are
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  Speaker 2: when things start to ramp up. And I think right
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  Speaker 2: around the beginning of September is when really things start
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  Speaker 2: to go and we start feeling the training camp coming in.
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  Speaker 2: But but yeah, let's just let's just let's just get
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  Speaker 2: us there already, because you're on vacation right.
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  Speaker 1: I am. We're all here on the West Coast here
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  Speaker 1: in the Bay Area with my wife's family. So we
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  Speaker 1: uh just hanging out a little barbecue, a little splosh.
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  Speaker 1: San fran Yeah, I flew to San Francisco. She lives
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  Speaker 1: in My assister Lunch lives in South San Jose. So
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  Speaker 1: hopefully we'll see some Demurse fifty five jerseys today. The
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  Speaker 1: Santa Cruz Boardwalk. That's the goal.
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  Speaker 2: Youah, oh, so you're up in Santa Cruz. Amazing. That's incredible.
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  Speaker 2: That's like, that's my old stopping grounds for years. Go
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  Speaker 2: to go to Willow Glenn, go to the table, Willow
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  Speaker 2: Glennay a little Willow Glen. Go to the table. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: and then oh god, I'll think of a sandwich space.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta give to you, but it's it's a it's
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  Speaker 2: a sneaky good city for food. Man Jose is what
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  Speaker 2: they call it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned that because years ago I had
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  Speaker 1: some buddies were traveling Canadian media when the Sharks were
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  Speaker 1: in the Cup Final. They're like, I go one, they go,
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  Speaker 1: I go, that's great, I go. I really liked the
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  Speaker 1: Bay Area. It's beautiful, weather, good five people greet that,
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  Speaker 1: but not a lot of a lot of talents. I go,
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  Speaker 1: it's Silicon Valley. It's a lot of nerds.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the the guys that were probably on
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  Speaker 2: location too, from the from the who was going? Who
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  Speaker 2: were there? There was just some MENHL guys.
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  Speaker 1: Going there ts N guys that were producing.
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  Speaker 2: Nerds too.
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  Speaker 1: Anyways, Fine, it's not like they're a wheeling beef anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, t s N.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yikes. But that's is that what they called the
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  Speaker 1: man Jose. They go, they go if you look at
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  Speaker 1: the fast So.
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  Speaker 2: They did initially back in the day, not back in
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  Speaker 2: the day, but they I listened. When I was there,
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  Speaker 2: I was was young and single and and we had
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  Speaker 2: a great team, and I mean listen, we we had
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  Speaker 2: no issues. It was a great city. I thought it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's gotten expensive, it's got way too expensive
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  Speaker 2: now and people have started to move, so you're not
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  Speaker 2: seeing as many young people there. But it's I think
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  Speaker 2: there's gonna be a little bit of a renaissance that
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  Speaker 2: area of San Francisco. Everything with AI, you know, not
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  Speaker 2: giving people market advice now, but you know if you
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  Speaker 2: look where AI is going. But we're talking, we're really
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  Speaker 2: fishing for stories here because we're talking about AI and
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  Speaker 2: San Jose real estate market.
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  Speaker 1: By low Yeah, I mean that's definitely a it's definitely
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  Speaker 1: a good conversation because you're right, it's expensive as some
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  Speaker 1: of these house prices out there. Mcteese like, I get it,
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  Speaker 1: but it's just gone to a different level over the
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  Speaker 1: last ten to fifteen years, having's exploded one under.
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  Speaker 2: We've got the sorts out there though.
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  Speaker 1: Just hopefully. Yeah, I got to ask one of our
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  Speaker 1: cousins that we grab a racket, go get go, get
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  Speaker 1: a set in. By the way, nhl' strip's going back
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  Speaker 1: to posting weekly after Labor Day, so we're almost at
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  Speaker 1: that point. We'll strict giving you weekly content again. But
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  Speaker 1: as we're lurching our way through August, we're as JD said,
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  Speaker 1: fishing for a little bit of content here. I do
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  Speaker 1: want to say out a serious don't we been talking
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  Speaker 1: about the Goodrow brothers. Now we're coming up with the
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  Speaker 1: one year anniversary of the loss of Johnny and Matthew.
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  Speaker 1: It's still heartbreaking to think about. Saw some of the
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  Speaker 1: interview of the widows there on Good Morning America talking
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  Speaker 1: with Will Reeve to commemorate what would have been Johnny's
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  Speaker 1: thirty second birthday, Johnny's widow, Meredith and Matthews would of Maddeline.
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  Speaker 1: They did reveal the formation of the John and Matthew
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  Speaker 1: Gudreau Foundations, So that foundation was officially launched in March
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  Speaker 1: to help preserve the memory of the Goodrow brothers by
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  Speaker 1: quote supporting projects and initiatives that align with the values
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  Speaker 1: and passions that they champion during their lives. So it's
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  Speaker 1: really a great tribute, and you know, maybe there's more
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  Speaker 1: thought right now on hockey. Can even an award after
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  Speaker 1: Johnny Hockey. I don't know if that's really the step
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  Speaker 1: you want to go, but it's really nice to see
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  Speaker 1: the strength of them and the fact that they've been
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  Speaker 1: publicly out there. You know, it really starts to kind
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  Speaker 1: of make their memory as strong as possible in the
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  Speaker 1: public eye.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, the two widows kind of
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  Speaker 2: finding closure and finding ways to kind of move forward
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  Speaker 2: in a positive manner. I think is just is very
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  Speaker 2: good and it's good to see them creating this foundation.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I don't quite know what you know,
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  Speaker 2: award you could you can maybe put Johnny under or
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  Speaker 2: you know, his brother the name itself, but I think
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  Speaker 2: just kind of doing what we've been doing and honoring
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  Speaker 2: him in as many ways as possible and keeping his
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  Speaker 2: memory alive, because you know, we've kind of set him
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  Speaker 2: multiple times in the podcast just gone but not forgotten,
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  Speaker 2: and I think this is a beautiful way to kind
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  Speaker 2: of continue that sentiment.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. As far as actual hockey action took place last
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  Speaker 1: week the Helenka Gretzky Cup stage in Czechia and Slovakia,
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  Speaker 1: so the term of previously the Under eighteen Cup, then
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  Speaker 1: the Helenka Cup before becoming the Helnka Gretzky Cup, whatever
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  Speaker 1: you want to call it, featuring the world's best players
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  Speaker 1: age seventeen and younger, and the first time this is
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and three, the Americans do come out on top.
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  Speaker 1: They won goal by beating Sweden five through the championship game.
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  Speaker 1: Player of the Game honors going to Jack Hextall and
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  Speaker 1: before you wait, related to Rodny Leah Brian No, Hextall
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  Speaker 1: does not appear to be related to the famous hockey family.
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  Speaker 1: We all know he's attending Michigan State in twenty twenty six,
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  Speaker 1: but in terms of previous standouts at the tournament, Matthew, Mitchkoff,
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  Speaker 1: Cole Profetti, Nathan McKinnon, Tyler Sagan, Alex Ovechkin, gdie, what
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  Speaker 1: do you got for me on the Helenka Gretzky Cup.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, good job by Jack Hextall. But I
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  Speaker 2: love that little thid bit of Is he related No,
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  Speaker 2: not at all. It's like me and Jack Demerz. It's
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  Speaker 2: just waste of a last name. You think it is
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  Speaker 2: no famous ties to it. Listen, it's it's kind of
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  Speaker 2: always in a weird spot, the Helenkas. So, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it doesn't get the coverage that it
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  Speaker 2: deserves because it's a good tournament. I mean, it's very competitive.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if anybody watched that tournament, you know, watching
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  Speaker 2: the US win and in the way in the fashion
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  Speaker 2: they did and you know, especially beating Canada. I mean
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  Speaker 2: they took that game like it was it was the
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  Speaker 2: Olympics final. So it's really it's really something I think
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  Speaker 2: anytime you I think any tournament we're guys represent their
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  Speaker 2: country is something that should get more viewership. And I
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  Speaker 2: think it is a very good format and it's always fun.
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  Speaker 2: People get excited when they're watching you know, Sweden Finland
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  Speaker 2: or you know Sweden Canada, you know check USA. It's
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  Speaker 2: just something that kind of brings out the energy of
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  Speaker 2: of of the fan base and in a way that
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  Speaker 2: you know, the Stanley Cup finals do. So it's it's
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  Speaker 2: one of those things. It just makes it a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more high stakes when when it's for countries. So I
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  Speaker 2: like it. I thought it was it was a great tournament.
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  Speaker 2: I thought that game against Canada was US Canada was
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  Speaker 2: was very very good and as advertised, because anytime you
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  Speaker 2: get the two big dogs together, they don't.
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  Speaker 1: Bark right right exactly anytime USA Canada's evolved as surely
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  Speaker 1: right now, as you said, people just starve for hockey's
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  Speaker 1: if you're a fan of hockey, you're gonna be watching
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  Speaker 1: something that's there. As far as being on the ice.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, our boy JD back on the ice. Saw
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  Speaker 1: on the instagium. You're posting the annual pro Am sun
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  Speaker 1: Life event in Quebec City. Players were in Canadians and
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  Speaker 1: or deeks them. I love that you're out there with
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  Speaker 1: Steven Stamcos, Jonathan marchisso, David Deharnay direct Brossard. How is
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  Speaker 1: the event looking? You had a blast.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I've been on the ice a couple of times now.
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  Speaker 2: Uh you know. I did a shoot with the NHL
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  Speaker 2: and body armor for with Jordan Cayrou a couple of
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  Speaker 2: weeks before that pro Am needed to get on the ice,
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  Speaker 2: touch the ice. I was with Cole Profetti and Jordan
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  Speaker 2: Cairou and then they're gonna they're gonna air that in October.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's we kind of went on the ice before
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  Speaker 2: I get into the sunlight. Not to talk all about me,
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  Speaker 2: which we're gonna do, but uh no.
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  Speaker 1: Just pointing out the United as rusty as some might thip,
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  Speaker 1: you'ple thin can hang up the skates. That's say you're
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  Speaker 1: still on the ice.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, geez, I did that. I did that, uh
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  Speaker 2: that shoot with body armor, and then I was on
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  Speaker 2: the ice for this tournament. I was like, fuck, I
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  Speaker 2: make mate might take a comeback here. Jonathan Tames can
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  Speaker 2: do it taking three years off. I'm right on that cuss.
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  Speaker 2: So if anybody's looking big Daddy's coming back. Light up.
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  Speaker 2: A few guys play a nice ten minutes a night.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly one year deal depth defense. It's been great in
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  Speaker 1: the room. No one's going to tee that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, give me one hundred thousand dollars and then give
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  Speaker 2: me every signing bonus under the sun and I'll get you.
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  Speaker 2: I'll get you, I'll get you to the playoffs. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was. It was a good tournament. It's fun to
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  Speaker 2: see you know, the pro am sun Life uh in
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  Speaker 2: Quebec City. They do a great job. I used to
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  Speaker 2: do it when I was, you know, a lot younger
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  Speaker 2: and starting out in the league and you know, just life.
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  Speaker 2: I missed it for you know, five six years, and
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  Speaker 2: they reached out this year and there was It's funny
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  Speaker 2: because there's there was two games. So you mentioned, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you mentioned the likes of Stamkos and Jonathan Marcia show.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't in that game. I was in the LEAs,
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  Speaker 2: which is the old guys, the retired guys. So I
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  Speaker 2: was playing with like I was playing with like you know,
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  Speaker 2: Patrice Bergron was there, Derek Pissard, David Derrihett Derenet, Alan
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  Speaker 2: Colti of the Nordiaks. There's a bunch of Nordiaks. Sylvan
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  Speaker 2: la Fay like not Sylvana Fay, I'm sorry, but no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: alant Coote, Eric Schwuinard like like just the guys that
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  Speaker 2: played years ago, and that ain't will tell you who's
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  Speaker 2: who's you know, one of the original rdiques and.
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  Speaker 1: Uh legend think of the stasties. Now, that's amazing that era.
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  Speaker 2: Yeahs hockey. Yeah, And he was taking the draw, so
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  Speaker 2: he was taking the opening face off, like the you know,
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  Speaker 2: the commemorative face off whatever, the ceremonial puck drop.
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  Speaker 1: I like, by the way, he Jady's sixty eight years old,
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  Speaker 1: still playing hockey.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So he was taking the draw against David Darnett
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  Speaker 2: and he was on the Quebec side, so and we're
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  Speaker 2: in Quebec, so he's gonna win the draw, he's so
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  Speaker 2: he goes and wins the draw and then there's a
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  Speaker 2: pause and he just leans into David Deren and he
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  Speaker 2: goes in French. He goes, I can't bend down and
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  Speaker 2: get that.
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  Speaker 1: Puck sixty eight year old man, What are we expecting here?
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  Speaker 2: Man? He was moving. I five fucking locked him up, though,
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  Speaker 2: Oh I ran him on.
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  Speaker 1: So many out there.
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  Speaker 2: Fun event. It was a really fun event, and it
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  Speaker 2: was it was done well good cause, you know, children's
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  Speaker 2: cancer and and and really good stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Just to thought. Will Folger, one of our great producers
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  Speaker 1: at MLB Network, just went for the first time with
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  Speaker 1: his family to Montreal and Quebec City. So I said,
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  Speaker 1: what's the scouting report? He goes, We liked it, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, little understand. He said, no, that was good.
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  Speaker 2: He goes.
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  Speaker 1: He goes, Montrell was nice, he goes, it felt more
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  Speaker 1: like an American city, like it was cool. It was
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  Speaker 1: Quebec City definitely felt more like you felt different. I said, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He said. The one tricky thing was as soon as
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  Speaker 1: they say they're from America, you can kind of get
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  Speaker 1: that hairy eyeballs, you know, but we're not Trumpers, like,
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  Speaker 1: oh okay, good godess It's like it's not not the
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  Speaker 1: best time for American's traveling. But he said, uh maybe,
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  Speaker 1: so he said, he goes. Food wise he goes, we weren't.
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  Speaker 1: We were hesitant on the poutine. I go, why because
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  Speaker 1: we're just not because this sounds ridiculous. We're just not
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  Speaker 1: big French fried people. So I'm like, we're really that
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  Speaker 1: excited for French fries. He goes. So eventually we're driving
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  Speaker 1: at my one Sone's like, oh, we gotta try the
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  Speaker 1: poutine and it was like a McDonald's. But we're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna have that. Go tell you at least went to
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  Speaker 1: Saint Hubert's like, tell me you did something.
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  Speaker 2: So you get it. There's like a million of them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't know what place they went to.
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  Speaker 1: He said they did have it was good, but he
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  Speaker 1: was like, you know, it's not really much. Alem like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but but you did like Old Quebec. He's like, here's
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  Speaker 1: the thing about Ubec city. I said, my wife, being American,
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  Speaker 1: I go, she likes Montreal, but Quebec City, especially Old Quebec,
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  Speaker 1: you think, is unbelievable. Like everyone who goes to Old
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  Speaker 1: Quebec is taken away. Anybody who can't go to Europe
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  Speaker 1: just be goes. I'll just go to Old Quebec.
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  Speaker 2: I go.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a honeymoon. Spot in North America. He's like, no,
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  Speaker 1: he goes. Listen that four and a half kilometer area
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  Speaker 1: going to shot to a front and Actuly, that'll take
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  Speaker 1: your breath away. You're seeing castles and ship from the
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  Speaker 1: sixteenth century. It's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the Canadian little piece of history that it's
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  Speaker 2: to your point, it feels so much like Europe. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's as expensive in terms of flying into that
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  Speaker 2: fucking airport. It's so so gosh turned expensive to flying
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  Speaker 2: in there. It's a small international airport. But uh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: my parents are there and I was that's where that
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  Speaker 2: sun Life game was and I spent a week there
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  Speaker 2: with family, and it's it's beautiful. It's it's really a
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  Speaker 2: nice place. You know, cold as all hell in the
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  Speaker 2: winter time, but it's it's it's it's so nice. There's
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  Speaker 2: so much history to it. And yeah, I always tell people.
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  Speaker 2: People are like, what do you go to Montreal? Correct,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, maybe go to Montreal for the weekend.
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  Speaker 2: It's fun, you know, there's a lot of vibrant city.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm like, go to Quebec, especially during the summer
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  Speaker 2: when they have they have a concert series that goes
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  Speaker 2: on for like a month and a half and it's
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  Speaker 2: like it's it's it's good, And I can't believe he
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  Speaker 2: was considering a poutine. Your friend at McDonald's is like,
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  Speaker 2: just just drive off a cliff, like, come on.
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  Speaker 1: Tals of Montreal got the debate of Montreal Quebec City,
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  Speaker 1: Where do you land?
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  Speaker 3: I think I think the best thing is to try
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  Speaker 3: and do both. They're like different, you know, they're a
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  Speaker 3: different vibe of both. Obviously, like Quebec City definitely feels
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  Speaker 3: more like a foreign country for no other reason that
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  Speaker 3: fewer people speak English there. But I said, Quebec City's
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  Speaker 3: more walkable too. Montreal is a little bit more spread
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  Speaker 3: out Quebec City. You're pretty much all hanging out in
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  Speaker 3: the same stretch, you know. I think you got to
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  Speaker 3: do both if you can. I mean, if you're driving,
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  Speaker 3: it's a bit of a schlep.
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  Speaker 2: But oh it's just three hours on the Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: If you're looking for a lot to do, like especially
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  Speaker 3: during the summer, Montreal's got a million things going on,
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  Speaker 3: and if you wanted to do like fast food poutine,
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  Speaker 3: just go to a LaBelle Province or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: Skip the McDonald's yea.
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  Speaker 1: Be right Montreal just for laugh, Jazz Festival, always a
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  Speaker 1: lot of stuff happening. Definitely in the summer. But to
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  Speaker 1: Jade's point, Quebec it's it's cold as hell. But they
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  Speaker 1: do winter right because they have to embrace it. It's
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  Speaker 1: six months of it. So like, all right, lebo m,
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  Speaker 1: let's let's get after it.
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  Speaker 2: Lebo m. The Peewee tournament in Quebec in the winter,
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: they do the whole ice Castle and everything. Yeah, ice
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: Castle on Quebec. I get to Quebec. We're all your
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: dreams come true.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: But you're right. I can imagine. I can imagine that.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, I hear people stories of friends flying within
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: Canada and the prices are absurd. I can't imagine they
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: got you right now. That are Canada Air Canada strike
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: right now by the way.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: Anyways, okay, oh, I can say, because my mom's out
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: there anywhere. What a dump of a company. It is crazy.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean, they're touching customers. It's just unfair.
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's just that Air Canada rouge. Yeah, cheaper, Stacy.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Those seats are from nineteen fifty five. The plane is
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: from nineteen fifty five. I can't believe it gets up
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: and down. You're just like, oh my god, here we go.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Life in my hands for six thousand Canadian to fly
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: an hour.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: Next time, just hop on the v rail one more
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: top before we'll get to our guest. The Red Wings
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: make a little It's not a lot of news that
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: get here, but they did as sign defense fan Travis
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: Haminick to a one year, one million dollar deal. So
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Hamnick's a depth defenseman Ottawa the past three plus seasons.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Before that, he was playing with the Abbots for the HL. Again,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: Detroit's a team and he've been waiting for a while
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: now since Seve Weisman's taking over from them to do anything.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make this sound like they're signing Nick Litstrom,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: but thoughts on Haminick adding to the mix.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, old veterano, you know, old veterano defenseman. He's, you know,
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: guy that's been around the league and understands. I think
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: he's gonna, you know, he'll play a he'll play a role,
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: and I think, you know, he'll be that bottom bottom pairing.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: You know. Listen, this is a big prove of year
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: for Detroit, not only for the team, but for Steve Eiserman.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: You know, I didn't haven't loved what they did in
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: the off season. You know, they brought in James en Riemsdyke,
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: they brought back you know, Patrick Kane, but other than that,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: you know, they brought in a goaltender. So you know,
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: they brought in John Gibson and you're hoping that shores
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: up things. But I just don't feel like they did
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: much and they impacted anything, and especially in that Atlantic division,
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: like the Gold Standards Florida and if you're not thinking
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: you're getting close to Florida, well you got to get
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: through them to make the finals. And it's not like
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: you're going to just quietly stumble your ass into the finals,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: like you gotta beat these guys because they're not going anywhere.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: And there's a lot of teams that got a lot
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: better in the Atlantic, and Detroit was in one of them.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: So I think we're all, I think everybody's kind of
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: hard on Steve Eiserman now and we're all like, hey,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: what's the plan, what's the iSER plan. We're looking, we're waiting,
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: we're trying to see what's what's happening. Who you bringing in?
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: And I think they just ran out of guys, and
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: you know, Hamminick was available, a good veteran defenseman to
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: come in on a on a small deal hopefully can
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: help that that Decoor. And you know they got a
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: good four Sherriot along with Maurite Cider and then you
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: got Edmonson and this Johansson. But you know, this is
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: a big year for this Decorp, big year for this
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: team and and you know, hopefully John Gibson really does
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: help them and can get them into a good spot
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: where Eiserman can kind of take a swing at the deadline.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: But this is not a team for me. That's that's
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Stanley Cup contending, and I would say borderline. This is
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: a borderline playoff team.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which I feel like it's been for the last
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: couple of years. It just feels like, you know, there's
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: a time Hockey Down was was that for a reason.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: It was the enviable place to go. People know the
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: passion they have for the sport there, right, They couldn't
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: even get a meeting with Nikolai Eilers think about that.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's uh, it's something that's a little bit,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: you know, it was kind of what it's It's weird
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: because when I was in the league, the Sharks and
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: the Red Wings, we were in the playoffs every year,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: you know. For I think they had that amazing stretch
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: of like twenty one twenty two straight seasons, maybe more.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: And it's like now you're just kind of like, Okay,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: when is this turnaround going to happen? And when are
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: these these guys that they brought in, these young prospects,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: when are they going to kind of develop and flourish?
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: And you know, I'm I'm a little worried. If they
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: don't make the playoffs this year, there's gonna be some
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: serious changes there. I think this has to be Eiserman's
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: last chance, so I expect to swing by him at
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: the deadline and if they're in a good spot, and
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: but who knows, Man, it's just it's just doesn't look good.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Hockey Town, great pizza, best pizza in America.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Little Caesars, No, you Caesars Kicks. But yeah, I feel
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: like you're a chain guy. I think, no, God, you
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: can I never go change.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I kidding, no, never. The only chain that support is
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: the Keg. But if I'm back home, only because I'm
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: not in Canada, so I'll go to the cake. But
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: that's it in America, Chin decent?
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: How could Bee fit the cake?
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: See little baseball stake.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I'm all in a little baseball stake.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: These how to be. We'll talk baseball. But later on
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: the Blue Jays, by the way, having it just a
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: fantastic season, first place right now in the Al East.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Also a little smelling salts get into that conversation in
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: the NFL. But it is time for our special guest
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: coming up after this quick break. Danton Cole was drafted
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: in the sixth round, one hundred and twenty third overall
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: by the Jets back in nineteen eighty five. Had an
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: interesting career playing for the Jets, the Lightning, the Devils,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: the Islanders, the Blackhawks, at won the Stanley Cup in
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: New Jersey, and an impressive coaching career. Danton Cole coming
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  Speaker 1: up right for this you're an NHL unscripted. Our next
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  Speaker 1: guest was drafted in the sixth round, one hundred and
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: twenty third overall by the Winnipeg Jets in the nineteen
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: eighty five NHL's draft. He went on to score fifty
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: eight goals and one hundred and eighteen points at three
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: hundred and eighteen games. The Jets, Lightning, Devils, Islanders and
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Blackhawks want a Stanley Cup in New Jersey and well
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: into an impressive coaching career in the IHL, HL and
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: us HL as well as college hockey. Quite an accomplished career.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: It is dancing Cole Welcome to NHL and script. Good
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: to see a dancing Hey.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: Nice seeing you guys, Thanks for having me on.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Of course, you started out at Michigan State under legendary
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: coach Ron Mason, who retired as the winning his coach
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: in US college hope hockey history. What kind of a
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: coach was he?
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: Uh? You know, Coach Mason was just great to play for.
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: And I think you know, one of the things when
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: a lot of us look back on you are playing
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: time there, what he did a really good job was
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: one he kind of brought you along and gave you
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: kind of what you could handle.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: And as you know, a real good trait in the coach.
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: And you know, you're think in your freshman year and
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: everybody came and everybody was on the power play before,
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: so you know, you thought you'd come in and do that,
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: but you had to kind of earn your time and
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: maybe kill penalties, and you know, you take faceoffs and
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: then you work your way.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: Into those roles.
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: And I know that patience has maybe lost a little
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: bit in today's game, but he was real good with
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: that and identifying again giving you some things that you
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: could see succeed at and build on that. And then
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: I think just from a mental aspect in terms of
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: preparing you to play pro hockey, we just the guys
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: that I went to camp with Brian mccrenolds in Winnipeg
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: the first time, we just felt that when we're in
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: Winnipeg's camp that especially in the rookie camps back then,
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: we were just very prepared.
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: We knew how to get through a practice, We knew
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: how to take care of ourselves away from the rink,
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: We knew how to you know, amp it up for
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: a game and you know, how to finish off a
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: win or you know, to claw back from a loss.
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: So I think he just from a mental aspect, did
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: a great job. And then lastly, like just just his
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: knowledge of hockey. And we've looked, you know, I went
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: back at when Chris Alango and I coached together several
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: times in different places, and we were together in Michigan State.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: We looked at some old films from like our Jeesus
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: sophomore in junior year, and.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: You know, some of the things we did was i'd
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: say pretty much ahead of its time just in how
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: we organized going through the neutral zone. We for checked
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: how that kind of transitioned back and some of our
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: penalty killing, and it just it was kind of fun
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: to watch and see it and say, hey this, you
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: know coach was you know, it's like your parents, there
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: are always a lot smarter after you leave and you
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: figure it out. But but I love playing for him,
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: and he made me a lot better hockey player and
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: it made me a great uh or Greg made me
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: a lot better coach as well.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: What was kind of one of the unique things that
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: he did that that set him apart as a coach.
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: You know, I think with with him and again it
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: was different. You know, we're back in the eighties, so
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: it was a different era. I think, especially coming from
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: juniors where you know, you knew your coach real well.
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: I think he really separated his duties. I mean he
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: ran practices, he ran the games, and then uh coach
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: Gwasdeki and Coach Christensen were the assistants that we had
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: when I was there, you know, they did a lot
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: of the day to day things, and so he really,
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: I think again a lot of things he was ahead
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: of his time. And now it's the way things are
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: run is like that. If you look in the NFL,
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: I mean, the head coach in the NFL are like
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: see Eos And I think I think back then he
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: kind of ran it that way. And it wasn't hey
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: if you needed stuff, And again he had a boy,
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: had a great psychological point of view on things, and
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: when you needed it wasn't an he never deal with
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: you individually, but it was always kind of like when
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: you needed it, and he just he had a real
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: good feel when to jump in on that and then
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: also when to delegate. So again I think he was
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: just he was ahead of his time in a lot
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: of ways.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Well, it's been great because you've been in part of
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: hockey and so much hockey history and notable personalities. You
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: were on the Tampa Bay Lightning when the team entered
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: the league. What was that first you like with expansion franchises,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: maybe a Phil Esposito story for us.
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: Well, there's a lot of stories, but yeah, it was
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: it was fun. You know, I was in Winnipeg and
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: Mike Hartman was there with me and we got kind
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: of bundled together and the expansion draft, and you know,
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: we're kind.
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: Of excited about that.
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: You know, you know, new start with a new team,
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: and you know, playing in Florida, you know, Winnipeg, that's
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: a little bit different weather. So it was a little
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: bit nice, a little change there for us. But you know,
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: it was exciting down there.
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: The people. You know, Phil did a great job in
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: terms of getting everybody in the.
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: Community excited about it and the crowds coming out and
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: you know, and it was again you look back, it
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: was a lot different then than it is now with
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: an expanse or franchise and you didn't have you know,
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: the social media and all that you had to you know,
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: Phil had he had to hype it and do a
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: lot of work in that sense.
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: So but it was fun, like you know, the whole
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: communities behind it.
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: We had pretty good first year and I think, uh,
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: you know, at the time, it was you know, probably
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: one of the most successful first year teams. Think Florida
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: came in a little later and had a better first
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: year than we did.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: But but it was good. Got us in the community.
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: We played in a you know, small rink there and
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: out at the fairgrounds. It was like ten thousand people
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: temporary and then then moved over after that first year,
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: but it just had a real good community feel. We
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: had a uh Phil put together a lightning club, and
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: there was a big ten outside the building, which made
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: sense because around the fairgrounds there, and and we had
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: elephants walking around and everything.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: But the fans could kind of go there after the.
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: Game, and then the players were encouraged to go there,
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: so you know, he really tied the community in with
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: the team and and and build it from there. But
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: it was it was a lot of fun with a
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: really good locker room. I'd say, you know guys like
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: you know, Brian Bradley's you know, been involved with the
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: team ever since, and you know Rob Rammage and Basil
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: McCrae and you know, just guys like that that that
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: had been around and understood the game and understood how
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: to you know, do things, but just appreciative of what
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: we had. So it was, like I said, it was
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: a lot of fun and we enjoyed our three years
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: down there.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: You know, you mentioned the Jets and that's where you
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: kind of began your career and uh, you know, I
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: just want to know, you know, how that was starting
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: in Winnipeg. And you know, do you have any welcome
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: to the NHL moments that may or may not include
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Big Walt Keith Kitchuk.
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well came in, uh yeah, a little
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: just you know, we practiced with us after the Olympics
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: when I was there and then was gone.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: They came in. But I really liked Winnipeg. It was
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: you know, they as an organization, they did a good job.
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: You know, I played most of my first year in
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: the AHL and had you know, Dave Ferris was a
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: coach down there, got a lot of playing time and
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: then kind of made the team. Was there for for
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: most of the next two years. And I'd say, just
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: great playing in a hockey town.
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: You know, we had you know, he had.
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: Two two newspapers and boy there's two or three pages
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: every day that were just about hockey. So it was
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: it was neat and he playing it came down now
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: puts you you know, in the spotlight a little bit,
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: but it just it felt good and uh to have
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: that that kind of talk. And I remember, I don't
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: know if it was our first home game, but it
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: was one of the first home games we had Winnipeg
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: my my first full year, and we were playing Toronto
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: and Wendell Clark was there, and I got I was
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: like a checking forward back then when you used to
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: do that, need shadow guys and do things like that.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: So I was on the ice against a decent amount.
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: We ended up in front of the net and uh,
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: you know, jostling around a little bit, and you know,
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: he shoved me, probably first because I'm smart enough not
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: to hit and shove him for and then so I
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: show him back and then just drilled me right right
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: in the face with his glove and just smote me
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: right And so I kind of turned around rough. I'm like,
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: what the hell's going on here this guy? And he's like, hey,
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: he goes there, he goes, he goes less, less talking, more.
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: And more fighting. Just skate it away. So all right,
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: I got.
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: I guess it's uh there, there's a pecking order and
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: I'm near the bottom of it.
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: So anyhow, keep keep my head up.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: That was hockey of that era. It's true, less talk
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: and more fighting. Yeah, you go from the outhouse of
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: the penthouse strikes short in ninety four to ninety five season,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: you get traded from Tampa to Jersey and winning that
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Stanley Cup. What was that whole experience.
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: Like it was I tell you what in terms of
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: I was, and I'm glad I was. I was a
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: little bit older, you know, I was twenty eight maybe
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: twenty nine when I won it.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: Just so you can kind of sit back and enjoy it.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: Sometimes when things happen to you when you're young.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: You just go through them and then you you hear
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: a lot of guys talk about that. We want you know,
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: we got to the conference or the Stanley Cup finals
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: my first year in the league, and I was nineteen
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: or twenty and then just thought that would happen every year.
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: So for me, it was.
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: Nice to be able to sit back and I would
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: you know, I kid when we have reunions and Sean
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: Chambers and I got traded over there, I said, that's
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: that was it.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: You know, I was the key part that put us
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: over the top there. But I was.
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: I was a bit player and I filled in when
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: guys were hurt. And but from an experience wise and
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: later in life, between coaching and managing, there was there
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: was a few people there that just made it really,
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: I mean outside of the team, which was fantastic, but
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: playing for Jacques Lamira was in and Larry Robinson was
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: unbelievable and is you know, and I was lucky. So
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: I think I think Ron Mason was the best college coach,
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: and I know there'll be some arguments, but Jacques was
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: an unbelievable tactician and the way he did things and
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: ran a team, and Larry was Larry was amazing as well.
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: So to be around those guys and kind of soaking
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: the knowledge and kind of see how how a team run.
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: Those guys so much excited would Jacqua have twelve thirteen
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: Stanley Cup rings and Larry's either. And then on the
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: other side of it, you know, with loul Lamarillo being
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: being the general manager and how how he ran things
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: and just you know, you know, people answering the phones
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: and you're there on time, and and you just do
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: things professionally.
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: You don't, you know, cut corners to do it.
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: So I was able to kind of sit back and
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: kind of watch all of that happen and go through
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: it and go through a playoff series. And I tell you,
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: as a coach, I stole so much stuff from Jock
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: and Larry and how they did things that I mean,
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: we ran, you know, a lot of the same systems
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: for a lot of times, and how we approach things
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: and just you know, little sayings that Larry had about
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: you know, how to go in the corner, how defense play.
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: I had I think, pretty good success coach and defenseman
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: and had a lot of have a lot of guys
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: in the NHL playing, but ninety percent of what they
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: did was stuff that Larry talked about. And again I
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: was glad I was a little bit older that, you know,
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: I could remember some of that and I wasn't just
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: you know, drinking water from a fire hose that I
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: was you know, could do it.
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: But what what an experience?
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: And you know, you win a Stanley Cupp or you're
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: on a team that wins it, then you know, it's
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: funny your life people that's they all, well, you know,
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: Stanley Cup winner, and they describe you're introduce you that
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: way and I always try and you know, segue away
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: from that. That's not not really what what you want
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: I am as a man or what I want to
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: be regarded as. But it's it's a good way to
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: get your foot in the door, and it's a like
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: I said, I wouldn't trade that experience for anything.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you know the Stanley Cup. It's when you
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: finish your career. The one question is did you win
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: or did you not win? So it's always a tough
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: question to answer because you get judged based on that.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: But I you know, speaking to somebody that won so
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: much later Robinson, I had him as a coach as well.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I had Big Bird as a coach in in San
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Jose and I loved him. I think his knowledge of
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: the game, like you said, it's his little the little
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: tips and tricks he has of like little things that
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: you would never expect, like picking the puck off the
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: wall when it's stuck. Things like that that that he
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: knew that I've never seen another coach teach. Uh is
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: just absolutely incredible. And then also his his looseness around
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: the rink and how he just has fun. I mean,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: talk a little bit about him as as as a
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: guy coming in and you know you said you were
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: a little bit older twenty seven, twenty eight, but like
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: for young guys and also old guys, he's just like
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: kind of the perfect mix for a Jacques Lamaire.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, that's yeah, that's what I was going to say.
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: That that's perfectly he and Jack just because you know,
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: Jacques didn't say a lot. He was he was pleasant
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: to be around on it, but he was kind of
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: quiet and kind of like real urse and direct to
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: the point. But then Larry, like you said, was relaxed
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: and you know, he'd play he'd played three on three
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: after practice with the guys that weren't playing and still
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: be probably the best best player there.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: He still crazy.
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so it was uh, and I played against Larry,
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: so it was kind of you know, we had.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: A few a few run ins when we'd mail back
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: in the day when.
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: He's playing in LA and stuff, and uh, but no,
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: he again, you're right, just just tactically, he was really
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: good and just to make the game you know, easy,
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: and you know, we we we'd talk about it later
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: on when we're teaching the defenseman. Just just your automatics,
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: you know, just you know, how going like you're saying,
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: how you're going back for a puck, how you're pulling
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: it off the wall, how you're setting yourself up. You know,
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: he'd you know talk about you know, not you don't
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: have to be the first guy back in the corner
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: and you know, get your face smashed. You know, there's
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: a smart way to play it in then dumb way.
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: And but you know, not being the odd man in
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: a pile. I mean, just stick on puck stuff.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, I can go on and on.
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: But it's one thing to have the knowledge, and it's
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: another thing to be able to you know, be able
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: to pass that on and teach it in a way
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: that's presentable the guys. And like I said, I loved it.
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: I just I thought it was fascinating to hear. And
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: again it's a guy that you know, was you know whatever,
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: I don't know. You can throw him top five top
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: defenseman of all time.
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: You know, and did it and want it.
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: And then you know, also be able to be on
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: the ice with him and go through some of that stuff.
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: So he was and he was good. Like I said,
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: I didn't. You know, there was a lot of games
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: if we didn't have injuries. I wasn't I wasn't playing,
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: So you know, I spent probably more than my fair
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: share time with him after practice. And you know, I
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: think one drill that we used to do, and man,
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: I scored and went and the year after I ended
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: up in the eye, and I think I scored twenty
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: eight goals and thirty two games of UTAH or something.
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: But I'd say ninety percent of that was because Larry.
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: We'd stay on after and you had to hit ten
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: one timers, you know, on net before you could get
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: off the ice, and sometimes that took a took me
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: a little longer maybe some of the guys, but man,
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: my one timer I came back. I remember skating in
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: the summer and I was.
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: Like, I'm shooting.
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: I'm taught an old dog some new tricks. Man, my
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: shot was way better, and they carried over after that.
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: But I used those drills. I used three or four
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: one time or drills that Larry had and how he taught,
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: Like I said, I carried that all the way through.
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: And when we had times with guys with USA Hockey
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: and the young kids that don't know how to shoot
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: a one time, you just just go back to the
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: basics with what Larry taught.
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: And there's just a ton of things like that.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Well as smart as you're saying, Dan, just to kind
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: of borrow from legends wherever you can. I'm curious with
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: your time the New Ork Calender, speaking of a by
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: gone era, Mike Melbray was the coach but also the
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: general manager. How chaotic was that, Like, all of a sudden,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: you've a bad shift, he could trade you the next day.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: It was interesting, you know.
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: I I signed there, and I knew I was kind of,
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: you know, getting getting towards maybe maybe the end of it.
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: And I thought, you know, get to a team where
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: I have an opportunity to be more and more of
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: a full time player and finish up that way. And
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: I ended up signing with the Islanders, and I kind
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: of I think coming out of camp I was there,
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: I was looking for a place and then Jason, you
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: can I don't know if you ever had this experience
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: where you're looking for a place and headn't sign a
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: contract and then they make a trade and all of
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: a sudden, Uh, I'm in Utah playing for Butcher Goring,
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: which actually kind of a blessing in disguise because I
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: love playing for Butch and again another famous player, but he.
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: Had a lot of interesting things and fun to play for.
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: And man, it was I tell you, guys, back in
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: college because I was killing penalties and power play, and
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: I mean it was it was. It was just a
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: lot of fun and that was good. But yeah, the
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: brief time I was in the island and Mike was
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: it was interesting. And you're right, coach GM, you're not
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: sure when when you go into the office afterwards, if
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: you're you know, if you're getting traded or you're gonna.
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: Go over a video or or what was going to
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: go on. And it was it was some interesting times.
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: Uh yeah, he's he didn't go up into the stands
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: and hit anyone with a skater or shoe when I
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: was there.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: I think that was when he did that. But uh, yeah,
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: it was it was interesting.
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: He uh, you know, there there were some struggles there,
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: and I don't think the team was Great's funny because
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: the team in Utah, I think won like back to
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: back championships and all that, so it's a little more fun.
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: But you know, hey, you try and take something away
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: from everywhere you're at, and you know what, I thought
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: he had some interesting ideas on some things. There's there's
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: a I remember one time in the penalty kill and
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: we were five I was killing it was five on
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: four and my stick broke and I was out there
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: and and the bench was at the far end, and
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to change and killing a penalty leave
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: it a five on three to go to the bench,
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: let someone else get and I get to mention. He
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: was just barking, you lose your stick, you got to
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: come off the ice and get a stick and then
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: go back. And I was like, I don't know if
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: I I still don't think i'd buy that theory, but hey,
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: diff different way of thinking, and now you see it.
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: Sometimes I guess if it was a short side of
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: the bench, maybe you switch sides with the player and
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: then get a six. So you know, maybe, uh, maybe
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: there's a theory there. Some I'm not sure I agreed
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: with it at the time, but he was a coach
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: in the GM, so I guess you do what they're
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: going to tell you.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Do you still yeah, Like I I think that's a
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: hot topic debate with a lot of guys in the
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: dressing room even today, Like when you break your stick
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: on the penalty killer in the d zone, when is
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: the good time to change? Like, because I agree with you,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: I think on a five on four you can still
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: block a shot. You can still you know, you're necessarily
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: not not that you don't need your stick, but if
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: you just played the top, you just play the point guy,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: and you stop shifting and you just take those one
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: timers and you're the you're the blocker. If you leave,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: you open up a five on three really quickly. So
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: what's your thoughts on that, Like, when is the right
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: time to change?
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's you know, for me personally, like
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: I would have my guys come off, And I think
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: what you can do is at least from a theoretical
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: you know, if you're walking through you say you can
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: do it in practice, right, you lose your stick and
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: then at least try and get to the bench side
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: of the ice so that if they're hey, there's a
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: puck in the neutral zone, then maybe you know you
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: can zip and cheat a guy off the bench and
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: he can get back. But yeah, I don't think i'd
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: I'd personally get off the ice like you said, I.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: Think you can.
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: You can stay in lanes and sometimes you can do
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: a better job with that. You lose that stick and
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: you lose the reach a little bit. But yeah, i'd
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: leave guys out. I wouldn't tell him to come off
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: in that situate. Now, if it's if it's in the
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: zone where your bench is right there, like I said,
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: and there's a contested buck right at the blue line
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: and you're out there, Hey, if you can jump off
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: or grab a stick and have a guy get on,
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: that's that's a one or two second thing.
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: But I think you're right.
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: If you give guys, you give him ten seconds on
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: a five on three and you got a guy like
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: a Vetchkin out there, I mean they're gonna wheel it
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: around and you know what's going to happen. So yeah,
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: I probably lean towards more BB patient, standing your lanes
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: and try and change when it's possible.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I just I was curious. You know, we've
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: been going through your career obviously, and towards the end
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: you have a brief stay in Chicago with just a
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: murderer's row of personalities. Chris Chellios, Jeremy Ronick, Tonia, Monte
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Ed Belfo Vadislav Tretziak is the goalie coach on that team.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: I would love to hear any any memories of of
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: that group of guys for the brief time you were
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: in Chicago.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was, it was, It was interesting. The nice
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: thing about that was I played.
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: I'd played with the US team a few times, and
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: so I played with Celli and uh Tony and and
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: uh and and Mike as well, So so I knew
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: some of those guys. I didn't know Eddie as well.
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: But it's kind of fun to come in and play
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: with a guy like that. I mean, it's a lot
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: of goalies don't have personality like he does, and he did,
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: and he was I was lucky to play with a
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: lot of great goaltenders and he's definitely one of them.
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: And then it was neat because you know, when I
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: was in Winnipeg, we had some of the early Russians
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: that had come over, so we had some those guys
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: are some of the first that came in, and New
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: Jersey was kind of doing that at the same time.
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: And then when I went to New Jersey, feed us
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: Off was still there and he wasn't playing a lot either,
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: So again, maybe one of the best players I've ever
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: been on the ice with, and just just some of
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: the things he could do in a huge human being,
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: like I don't know if people realize.
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: I mean he's six three six four two fifty maybe
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: and just a rock. He was an unbelievable hands.
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: I mean it was so he'd be out there playing
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: three on three and you'd have Slava and Larry and.
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: Then I'd jump in, I'm go hamm. With these two guys,
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: you'd never lose.
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: But so I knew some of the Russian guys and
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: then and then having treat Check around was kind of neat.
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: So obviously you know you want to you want to
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: chat with him. He wasn't around a ton I do.
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: He liked the sona after practice, and so did I,
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: so I'd always try and time it or I could
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: get in there and chat with him a little bit.
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: But those guys are their stories and what they went
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: through in the eighties and getting out of that country
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: and getting over here. I mean, they're they're fascinating. Those
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: those movies that you watch, that's that's exactly what they
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: talk about. And like I said, and if you watch
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: the old treat Check videos and some of the crazy
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: stuff they had training.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: But yeah, it was fun being around them.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: It was neat.
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: And I love Chicago's back then. The Old Stadium was
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: always my favorite place to play on the road, and
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: I love the National Anthem, and I love the I
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: even like the lousy locker room they used to stick
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: in in the basement. You had to walk up through
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: the gold judge's box to get out on the ice,
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: and yeah, then you hit the national anthem.
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: It was just fans were right on.
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: It was.
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: It was a really cool place to play.
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: So, you know, I got the chance to play there
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: and uh, you know, and be in that city for
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: just just a little bit.
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: But yeah, good, good memories there.
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: They in fact, they treated me really well and had
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: no complaints and it was kind of neat to sneak
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: in and, like you said, be around some of those guys.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: You go from playing right into coaching with Grand Rapids,
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: and then you end up becoming the head coach of
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: the Motor City Mechanics of the United Hockey League and
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: you're coaching them during the four o five season when
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: the NHL is is locked out. There's a lost season,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: so the Red Wings aren't playing. So you're coaching in
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: the United Hockey League in Detroit and you're the only
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: pro hockey available at that time in Detroit. What was
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: it like being the only show in hockey town?
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was, it was. It was interesting.
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: So I was with Grand rapids, and I'm I'm in
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: the coaching business. So I got I got fired, and
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: I was sitting at sitting at home, and and like
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: I said before, I knew Chilly a little bit and
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: he was playing there. So, uh, Darien Hatcher, Chilly was there,
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: Sean Avery and Brian Smolenski were all playing for that team.
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: And so Chllie called me and he said, hey, he goes,
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: do you want to coach? And I said, yeah, I'm
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: I've been at home about a week. I was chomping
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: at the bit and so yeah, let's.
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: See what what do you got? So he kind of
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: threw that my way.
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: And then the owners of the team called me and
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: asked if I wanted to finish up the season, and
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: they had they had twenty games to go in the season.
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: So yeah, I jumped down there and finished up that
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: season with him.
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: It was fun. They they played only only home.
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: Games for US, so that was in tr a nice
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: little uh kind of like the NBA now and some
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: of those guys don't play all the time.
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: But but it was. It was good. And I tell
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: you they were they were.
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: They were great and now and I mean I always
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: I'm a big Chris Chelios fan I and and people
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: always say he was the best American player of all
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: the time. Well, I always kind of come back to him,
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: and not just from longevity, but wow, what he could,
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: what he could do, and as good as he was offensively,
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: he was that good defensively.
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: He was tough, he was smart. I mean, I don't know.
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: I'm again I'm I'm a big fan, and but in
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: that level. I always I used to use this.
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: A lot talking to younger guys, and I said, here's
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: a guy that's he's forty forty two years old playing
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: playing for me, And thank goodness I knew him because
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: that helped. But man, he'd come off the ice and
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: he'd ask about a situation, Hey when when they for checked,
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: like this, what do you want to do in there?
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: And I'm like, it's kind of impressive, right Like he
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: just just the receptiveness and and the professionalism and wanted
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: to be coached.
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: And and to be open to it.
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: And I don't know, I just I found it. It
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: was really interesting. And though those four guys were fund
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: we had a pretty good team. It was a little
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: it was funny. We went We went eighteen and two
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: to finish the season and always and people go, oh,
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: he had all the NHL guys that go, well, we
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: were eight and two at home and we were ten
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: and zer on the road when they didn't play for us,
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: So I don't know if they were they were helping
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: us or hurting us, but but it was fun. It
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: was the owners of the team were fantastic guys, and
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: you know, they tried to make a goal of it.
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: It's it's it's tough.
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: Down in Detroit, like you said, it's it's it's tough
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: enough when there's no other pro sports, but minor league
• 43:37
  Speaker 6: sports in Detroit just haven't really ever taken hold.
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: And been able to work. But I love working for him.
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: Learned a ton. They're really good business guys.
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: And you know, they lasted one more year and then
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: I moved on from there.
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: But that was a lot of good memories.
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: It was a fun team and the guys, it was
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: it was neat how everyone kind of accepted that these
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: guys were playing for US at times and not other times,
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: and guys would step up and then step back when
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: they had two and it was, yeah, it was fun.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: It was a really good locker room, good bunch of guys, coach.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: I mean another American born player that you've coached, especially
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: with the United States national team the development program, Jack Keel.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, talk about a guy that's on his way
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: to being considered in in the top you know, US
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: born hockey players. So what was a young Jack Kele like?
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: And uh, you know what what have you seen in
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: his growth and development?
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: Jack, you know, Jack was a I want to say freak,
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: but that always sounds wrong.
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: He was just he was a machine. It's and he
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: was young, so you know he had.
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: That delayed draft you're there, but he uh, you know,
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: he could come in and I mean he was like
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: a you know, his vertical jump and is you know,
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: he could clean three hundred pounds of sixty you know
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: what I mean, just he did.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: This just really yeah, oh he was.
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: He was.
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: Jimmy Cummins, who's still still scull with Calgary, called me
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: and he'd seen a video and he goes, that's not real.
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: He's not.
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: I mean he's just like cleaning you know before the draft,
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: like you know, three hundred pounds like ten times like.
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: It was not And and he yeah, he was.
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: He was a force and his power you can see
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: it on the game and he just when he's on
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: the ice and skating, he can really make it look
• 45:12
  Speaker 6: easy like he's he's like the old Russians, you know,
• 45:14
  Speaker 6: they're full stride and in about two strides they are
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: at full speed.
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: And uh.
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: But yeah, he he was interesting and I like coaching him,
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: and Jack and I had had a good relationship and
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: we put a lot on him. But you know, one
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: thing he really had to work on offensively and defensive
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: he was just playing without the puck. And that's not
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: not a slam on him. It's just he was so
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: dominant that when he had the puck offensively, he just
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: had it, and you know what I mean, he wasn't
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: kicking it and driving to the nat or playing off
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: the pucket on Defensively, his theory on defense was just
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: I just skate back and take the puck away from
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: the other team and just go back on offense, which
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: is which is is fine to a certain extent, but
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: when you get into a little bit more mature hockey
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: and all that, then you just end up.
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: Chasing those Yeah, and he you know what.
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: He took to really well his second year, Like he
• 46:02
  Speaker 6: and Sunny Milano and Alex Tuck were line and I
• 46:05
  Speaker 6: always said it was the best junior line in hockey
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: in the world that year. I mean, they were just
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: fantastic together and they kind of got that where they
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: would kick pucks and Barry Smith would talk a lot
• 46:14
  Speaker 6: about trying to get a teams, trying to get good
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: players to play a two man game. If you get
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: really good players, he can play a three man game
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: where you can you can set up odd man situations
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: all over the ice. And they were just fantastic at it, so,
• 46:26
  Speaker 6: you know, and he and he led in his own
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: way and and just just a savage in the weight room.
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: And like I said, he just he just kept growing.
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: Up getting there.
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: And I in my mind what I saw when they
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: won the Stanley Cup was was that's how he was
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: for us when he was eighteen. I mean, he just
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: he just you know, brought confidence to the whole team
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: the way he played, and he'd dominate with the puck
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: and his he he could be really physical and physically
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: dominant without without throwing.
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: A check in a game, if that makes sense. I mean,
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: he was just a load to.
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: Play and we had the U seventeen year old Challenge
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: and they had McDavid and on Canada's team and we
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: ended up winning that game six, But it was it
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: was about halfway through the game and all of a sudden,
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: it was like we could have just played one on one.
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: It was just those those are the only two guys
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: on the ice. It was what it seemed like, and
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: it was just, I mean, what a high level of
• 47:16
  Speaker 6: hockey and how fun that was. And I just in
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: my mind, I always looked at and I said, you
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: know what, that's when you know, when Jack finally gets
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: to that point, and it just hasn't surprised me how
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: he's played, and it's been, like I said, it was
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: great to see him win a Cup, and then last.
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: Year you have another great year, and yeah, it's just
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: it's fun to see young guys like that.
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: Now now he's a young man, but you know, play
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: that well and do what I thought he could do.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: You're a Michigan guy through and through. I grew up there,
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: played there, coached there, you still live there.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: I'd love to get your.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: Take on with so many players coming from all over
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: the United States now, California, Florida, Arizona, wherever it is,
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: where do you think Michigan is right now in terms
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: of their place in the in the USA Hockey map.
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I think you know I personally and
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: I'm not working for anyone, so I can say whatever
• 48:04
  Speaker 6: I want. I think personally, I think we have Yeah,
• 48:07
  Speaker 6: we have some work here to do in the state
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: of Michigan. And I think, you know, there was a
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: time when it was Minnesota, Michigan and Massachusetts where you know,
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: most of the guys are coming from.
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: I think that it's wonderful that it's expanded.
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: I mean, you look at all the guys coming from
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: California and Texas and Florida and Arizona, and you know,
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: it's amazing. And the NHL has driven a lot of that.
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: All those all those teams have made the games more popular.
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: But I think what we've done in Michigan is is
• 48:32
  Speaker 6: I think we've lost a little bit of focus on
• 48:35
  Speaker 6: on what it made us, made us good in the competition.
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: I think we've turned and this this is probably a
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: nationwide thing too, where you know, if too many triple
• 48:45
  Speaker 6: A teams, not enough double A teams, too many kids,
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: you know, running to get to the next spot instead
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: of being good where you're at I mean, I see
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: guys leaving, you know, Detroit has and I go way
• 48:55
  Speaker 6: back when when Ali Fredi and Pat la Fontaine and
• 48:59
  Speaker 6: Alfie Turcott, we're all on the same midget Triple A
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: teams as juniors in high school and I think we
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: had the best midget league in the in the world
• 49:07
  Speaker 6: at the time, going to where guys are fourteen years
• 49:10
  Speaker 6: old and can't you know, they're they're too good for
• 49:12
  Speaker 6: a team Detroit, so they move their family to Chicago
• 49:15
  Speaker 6: when they go there and play like you should not
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: have to leave the state of Michigan. Now there's a
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: time when you have to. I mean, you know, you
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: get to juniors and you go to the USHL and
• 49:22
  Speaker 6: that's a fantastic league, but you know, when you get drafted,
• 49:26
  Speaker 6: they have to move. But I think people are just
• 49:28
  Speaker 6: they're just chasing the next thing, and instead of being
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: really good where they're at first and then moving, they
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: think the problem is where they're at and they need
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: to get somewhere else. And I think I think Michigan,
• 49:38
  Speaker 6: the state of Michigan or hockey is really good and
• 49:40
  Speaker 6: we're getting good players, but I think we're leaving a
• 49:42
  Speaker 6: lot on the table because we're a microcosmo.
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: What's going on all over the place.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: Figure it out, Michigan. Dan, thank you so much for
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: your time. I appreciate it. That's Danton Cole and I
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: could talk to you all day about just so many
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: amazing stories Michigan, your time in Tampa, Chicago, everywhere. So
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time, and hopefully we'll
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: talk soon.
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: All right, my pleasure. Thanks a lot. It's a lot
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: of fun, all right.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Thanks once again to Dan Cole.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: He was terrific.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: As far as they're Cinophon sixty. This week, I really
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: wanted to go watch Highest to Lowest working Friday night,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: went right to the theater there in Seacaucus, right where
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: MLB Networking Angel that We're Kids sold out JD in
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: a Friday night, A lot of demand for the latest
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: Spike Lee joint, fifth time him and Denzel Washing reunited.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I didn't get a chance. I watched the
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Corosala movie again, which is an all time classic that's
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: called High and Low, and Spike is remaking it now.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: This movie called Highest to Lowest and High and Low
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: is a great, great Corosala film. It's one of his
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: best and Spike's a big corsela guy he's remade Asian
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: movies before. It didn't go well. He did Old Boy
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: maybe a decade ago with Brolin. It was terrible. The
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: original Old Boys an outstanding movies. So I was like
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: a little skittish when you're trying to take on one
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: of the great masters. But great reviews so far. Tal
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: is gonna give us a little review because I still
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: want to watch. I don't want to anything spoiled yet,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: but good reviews. To Artel, what did you think of
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Hyas Solois which was not sold out in Los Angeles?
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: Definitely not sold out in Los Angeles.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed it.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: I'm a I'm a big Spike Lee fan. I was
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: thrilled to see another Spike Denzel collab. You know, it's
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: like it's like when a new Scarcese DeNiro or Scarcese
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: DiCaprio movie comes out. It's really exciting and first time
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: since Inside Man seeing these two together. You know, Spike
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: definitely made some choices here that my friend who went
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: with me didn't quite get, and I think there were
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: some without giving anything away, there were a couple of
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: potential little holes in the plot. But it's a great
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Denzel performance. And you know what's I really loved about
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: it is that some of my favorite Spike joints, if
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: you want to call him that, are the ones where
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: they're kind of like a love letter to New York,
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: where he shoots New York a ton and you get
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: the skyline and the neighborhoods and all that. And this
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: is like an all time love letter to New York.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: You've got you've got Denzel playing this mogul living in
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: his penthouse in Dumbo, and you get you know, the
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: Brooklyn Bridge, and he shot all over New York and
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: a lot of shots at Boston sports fans, which I
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: definitely enjoyed. There's literally Nick Turturo, She's staring at the
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: camera yelling fuck Boston.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: At one point.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: So I enjoyed it a lot.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: I think if you're not as into Spike Lee, you
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: might not get it as much. But as someone who
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: enjoys his films and love seeing Denzel, it's a great
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: Denzel performance. I think the character he's playing is supposed
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: to be younger than Denzel is. Bear in mind, Denzel
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: is seventy. I think the character was supposed to be like,
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: maybe more around fifty but still fun performance and really
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: enjoyed it. I want to hear what you think about
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: when you get a chance to see it.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Adn't well, yeah, what about me? Jesus Chop you too,
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: of course? What's your what's your? What do you think
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: Denzel's worst performance is in a film, because I feel
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: like he's always great.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: Oh Ann, I'd love to hear your thought on this.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: He's virtual too many times virtual.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: He's a pretty bad movie him and Russell Crowe, which
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: on the Dan Levittard Show they bought it up and
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: that's laughed. He's like, man, I made Russell Crow's career.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: What are you guys talking about? Virtue Watch. He's pretty
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: bad some of these action movies, I mean Falling, I
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: don't think is great, like some of those like you
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: know those they're kind of become a retrits and all
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: those action movies are not great. But when he's great,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: he's unbelievable. I mean he's an all time genie. I
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: mean Malcolm Max Fences, he got game like love.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Him like he's an varetyat or two.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: And I didn't think that was great either.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not great.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: He was doing a little scenery, you know, I was
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: like overall than he wasn't great only he was great
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: in it either. Oh the movie was, but with him
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: in spiked.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Together doing that, yeah, yeah ruined.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: By the way that. One of the things that just
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: to quickly mention is twas mentioned New York Matthew Lebatique shot.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: He's a cinematographer. He did Record for a Dream and
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Darren Arnofski, So I rewatched Record for Gream last week,
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: which an unbelievable movie. I love that movie, but I
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: heard the way he shoots New York's great swooping camera
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: and stuff, and you're mentioning, you know, in Krosawa's movie
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Hind and Low, it's a kidnapping movie, the one major
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: scene is on the train. So I love the fact
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Spike did this. They're taking the fore train a Yankee
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Stateium and that's where you're referencing the Boston sucks. But
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: I did hear that, So I do appreciate what Spike
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: and take his his flourishes and certainly make it his
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: owne always Eddington's the moay that I want to talk
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: to you guys about, which is from Ari Astor, who's
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: a terrific director. Obviously he did Hereditary, did Midsimar. He
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: came out as like this great horror movie guy and
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: then goes, hey, you know what, I kind of want
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: to serve a little bit. Everyone wants me to eat,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go yang. He does Boways Afraid, which
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: is a really funny, nearly three hour movie about Jewish neuroses,
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: wasn't for everyone's taste. And now he makes Eddington, which
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: is a COVID movie. It's literally set during twenty twenty
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: and it's in a small town and it's out there
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: man again, he's getting away from what he was known for,
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: which is these horror movies instead of wreaking these really dark,
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: bleak comedies. It came out at Sundance, had a bit
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: of a mixed reception. It's really two movies. The first
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: half is a very dark comedy in which Joaquin Phoenix
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: plays the sheriff who's just flaunting COVID rules, doesn't want
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: to wear a mask, thinks the whole thing's ridiculous, and
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: then Pedro Pascal, who's in everything right now, feels like
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: it's mandated. You have to watch Patro Piscal's much the
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: overexposure of Pedro Pascal. He's there being the guy who's,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: you know, more on the side of hey, let's be clear,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: we have to wear a mask. He's the rules. He's
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: running for office. What King thinks ends up being a
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: sheriff is running for office basically just on anti COVID rules.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: And some of the best jokes are really made at
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: the liberals, like there's this whole section where they're supporting
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter. It's really funny, really pointed stuff and
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: certainly very satirical. The second half thote takes a dramatic
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: departure in which it gets very dark. I mean when
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: I say black comedy, dark comedy, it is about as
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: bleak as it gets. But I did really enjoy because
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: Aria Astor is a unique filmmaker. It's definitely a good
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: antidote to Superman and all the super movies you see
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: at the summer. So particularly, I was thinking of tell
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: I think you'd enjoy Edding today. I feel like you're
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: an already. Astra Fante definitely is a unique director.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: I've been hearing so much about this guy and have
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: not seen one of his films so and I've heard
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: a lot about Eddington, but he seems he's like definitely
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: having a moment right now. It seems like he's just
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: one of these guys who like very talented at a
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: pretty young age, is pretty accomplished a ready and yeah,
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: and Eddington seems pretty seems pretty contemporary as far as
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: the themes and the stories, and I love what keen,
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: So we'll definitely have to check that out.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's definitely a great actor. All right, that's your
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: cinephon says, go ahead, you do what you got. What
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: any movies you've seen lately? What you got?
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: No, I just was gonna say, Eddington, I got to
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: check that out. I just saw the trailer for it,
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: and uh, I have to check it out. Whalle Quene Phoenix.
• 56:31
  Speaker 7: Actually like right, oddball different locked the line right, Yeah,
• 56:34
  Speaker 7: he's always I mean his personality in real life, I
• 56:37
  Speaker 7: mean the whole Pedro Pascal OFVI it is, it's absolutely
• 56:40
  Speaker 7: ridiculous right now, like what you.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Were all over at, the whole sexual harassmus issue with him,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: like touching.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Got it, he's still touching and anxiety in public Vanessa Kirby.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: But apparently also says the male co stars as well,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: not that we're making it way.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: I've never seen that who's seen that? Adnan, Are you
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: into getting into a little Jay's talk now that we
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: finished in a file and sixty?
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was about to say, Man, what a store
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: of this team has been there. They're poised to a playoffs?
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Can I lead you?
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: Can?
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: I can I lead you into it?
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: I love it?
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah? This is this We're We're still weeks away from
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Opening Night in the NHL, but it's the most exciting
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: time of the season in Major League Baseball and the
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: favorite baseball team of roughly half of the NHL's players,
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: The Traddle Blue Jays are poised to win a playoff
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: series for the first time in twenty sixteen. Avy, we
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: need your take here? Is this the fine Jesus? Is
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: this finally the year for the Jays? What sticks out
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: for you this season? Where does a vlad Junior rank
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: among the all time Jays? Give me your thoughts, add
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Nan Verkers, the Jays man cometh. Let's go well, right.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Around Victoria Day May two to four, Memorial Day in America,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: the Jays were like a five hundred team. They felt
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: like another mediocre team, probably gonna be around five hundred,
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: no big deal. And then also they take off ironically
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: their one big reagent signing was Anthony Santander. He was
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: hurt Dalton varshow out. They call up Addison Barge, who's
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: been a great story banging down the door. He's been
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: slucking and has been really one of the stories of
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: this Jay's team. They've had a lot of unherlded players
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: and like when you look at their lineup, their five
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: through nine has been great. So Varsha has come back,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: by the way and still slugging the ball great. But
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Adamson Barger, Ernie Clement, Heineman Straw rotation wise, you know,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: Eric Lower came out of nowhere, has been a great
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: starter for them. Their bullpen, little Rodrigue has been great.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: I'd make the hockey analogy. You'd be like, if your
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: fourth line becomes the best fourth line of hockey, Oh
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: my god. If these guys can score a scular a
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: top line can score. And some of the concern earlier
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: on JD was that Vlad is good, not great. Bo's okay,
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: But now the stars sicked up big time as well.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: And to your question about Vlad again, the first half
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: he was fine, just wasn't hitting many home runs. Even
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: now he's got twenty home runs. People like, hey man
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: for five hundred million dollars, I'm expecting thirty thirty five
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: home runs. But if you look at his numbers now,
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: it reminds me of in basketball. If you see a
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: guy who shoots forty percent from three, fifty percent from
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: the field, ninety percent from the free throw line, that's
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: like Vlad. He's hitting three hundred, he's a four hundred
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: on base and he's a five hundred luck Like, dude,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: that's a nine hundred oh ps Like, that's outstanding numbers.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: So he was facing a little bit criticism earlier in
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: the season, slow start, specifically with power. Lad always gets
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: on bas He'll draw walks, he hits the ball hard,
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: like his exit field is great. But now the powers back,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: it's great. Boba Sheett now having a healthy full season
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: last year was a real disappointment. Was it an aberration?
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: Was he on the decline? No, dude, he's gonna leave
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: the league. And it hits like he's great. So you
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: have a Blue Jays team which has superstars in Vladimba,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: George Springer's having his best year in four years. His
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: legging percentages back to what it was in twenty twenty one,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: and then you've got good stories that I mentioned barjar Clement.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: The concern is, this is your question was as far
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: as them being contenders, they're starting pitching is bottom ten
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: in baseball and they don't happen true, right, they don't
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: have a true age. Barrios is in the area of four.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Gosman's three eight nine. Shane Bieber they just got from Cleveland.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: He's been out for Tommy John for a year and
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: a half. He's gonna make his first start. Looks like
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: later this week with the Blue Jays against the Marlins.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: So he won the side on five years ago. He's
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: been a great pitcher, but it's been five years, so
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: you're really relying on past history. He's looked great. So
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: from the miners, can that translates to the majors? We
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: shall see. So I when I look at the other
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: contenders in the AL, I do think the blue Jays
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: pitching is a little susceptible. Hoffin a good closure but
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: prone to giving up some bad performances. But are they legit?
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, Like I think they're gonna win this division.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: And the overarching question is this, can they finally win
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: a playoffs game? They don't want a playoff game in
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: the run of bow and a flat right. I haven't
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: won a serious since twenty sixteen, so it'd be really
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: important NEXTU you finally see them win, because I do
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: think Bo's gonna get like two hundred million dollars. He
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: could be out the door. You know what that's like
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: when two guys get drafted or kind of brought up
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: in the organization at the same time. One guy got
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: five hundred million dollars, the other guy wants to get
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: paid to The Jays can't low ball Bo. If they
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: didn't campaig him, he could be done. Chris Bassett's depending
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: free agents. So listen, man, it's a great time to
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: be a baseball fan. Jays fans should be excited. I
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: do think they win that division. They're five up on
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: the Red Sox or six up on the Yankees. And
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Tal has a George Springer tidbit for us. By the way,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: he's a Connecticut guy, the pride of hard hitting New Britain.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: What do you got?
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: That's right?
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: A Yukon alum and the Little Ti. It is a
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: hockey show, so had to present a little hockey tidbit.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: George Springer attended avon Old Farms with Stanley Cup champion
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: Nick Benino. There you go, there's my tidbit.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: Ain't nobody nobody.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: That was an all time great call those.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: A great little those a great little Blue Jays. Drop
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: down for everybody back home. I appreciate you and you're
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: very good. Go ahead at your gohead. I just find
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: with baseball it's so interesting you see more, you know,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: like you see more of these teams lately in the past,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: you know ten years that are five hundred kind of
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: milling around and then they just explode and catch lighting
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: in a bottle. You don't see that often in like hockey,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: you see it. You know, the Saint Louis Blues are
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: probably recent memory that the team in nineteen that you know,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: worst team in the league and then exploded after January.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: But it's so hard to make up ground in the
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: in the NHL versus baseball. You get these teams on
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: you know these you know, you're playing three four games
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: back to back and you could really catch fire if
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: things kind of line up the right way. So that's
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: it's good to see the Blue Jays. You know, hopefully
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: they it'll kind of be funny. You know, we're tying
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: this in a hockey it'll kind of funny if they
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: win a series before, you know, even though they please
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: have won a series, but if they go deep in
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: the playoffs and yeah, they become Toronto's team.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: Well, in the AL, it's wide open. So, like somebody
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: said to me, could you see a scenario in which
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: they win the World Series? I go, I can't really
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: see them winning, but can I see them making the
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: World Series? I'm like, yeah, Like they're they're better than
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: the Yankees, they're better than the Red Sox right now,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: Detroit's real even slumping recently. Houston's been up and down.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Seattle I think looks pretty strong, but they're still a
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: game in half out of the division.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: So you're right.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, Toronto can end up being the Jayson b.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Toronto's teams winning and you're still they're flickering away.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: Who's your prediction to win?
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: I still think in the nationally, the Dodgers, like Genie,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: they've been slumping. Recently, they faced the Padres Big Series.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: What happened? They swept the Padres like no problem. Padres
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: had won thirteen to fifteen games. Like heard, they go guys,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: the changing the guard Dodgers, like watch this Bam swept
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: so like I will call out LA when they lose.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to count against them one hundred percent
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: of because you can't do that in sports ago, and
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: I think it kind of can. Like when I watch
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: these guys they do it.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. Yeah, They're one of the only light switch
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: teams that I've seen in a long time that can
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: just we don't really, Let's just get a lot like
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: a little bit like Florida, get to the playoffs. We'll
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: be fine.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on smelling salts before
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: we depart. The NFL sent an interesting memo to its
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: teams a couple of weeks ago, tell me they could
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: not administer smelling salts or ammonia capsules to their players,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: although players could by their own little pick me up.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: I bring it up because you know how popular smelling
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: starts are in the NHL. You see players using. They
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: get kind of that wide. I'd look, JD, how much
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: do they help? Where are you out on smelling salts
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: helping you during the game.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: It becomes like a fixation to a point where you know,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: for me, it it just the sensation of you know,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: sniffing the smelling salts and you're like it kind of burns.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: It does wake you up a bit, but it's not
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: like this.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: For me.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: It's never been this crazy thing where I was like,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm alive. Like Jonah Hill is like
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: Jonah Hill, Jonah Hill and get him too the Greek.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: You know. It's it's not like a Jeffrey, but it's
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: it gives a good shot, and it's I mean, man,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: does it burn. It burns, So I mean maybe there
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: it's one of those things smelling. So it's you're gonna
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: do studies on it. It's gonna be like it just
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: burns holes in your brain or some shit like that,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: or like you're people are blind and they're just gonna
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: have some random study come out to Campella June in
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: the next ten to twenty years. They just get ahead
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: of it now. But yeah, it's it's I feel like
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: the NFL. There's a fucking league that needs smelling salts.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: It's the NFL because I mean, you got to be
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: so on top of your game and it's such a
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: car crash sport. Especially certain positions. I feel like you
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: should probably so you know, nobody kills anybody in the NFL.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: I feel like the linebackers and like the safety should
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: not be allowed to take it, but like the kicker
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: and the punter can take it.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: That's actually a great idea, the one who is at
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: the most disadvantage, Like, yeah, the smallest guy. Hey, the kicker,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: he's like five ten buck eighty, go ahead, buddy, go nuts.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: But the linebacker, we don't need that.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: We don't need you, we don't need two seventy absolute
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: made a muscle man coming Downhill on smelling salts, on
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: basically bath salts, just eating his own face just to
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: murder you. I'm like, we don't need that.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: I think George Kittle came out with saying how frustrating
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: he was, but he's like, dude, we gotta have her
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: smelling salts. Like oh, what fun is life could be
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: if you can't have the smelling salts. I'm like, hey, man,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: I'm sure sure it makes an impact. I just like
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: that when you made a Jonah Hill drug reference, I
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: would have thought immediately Wolf of wall Street, but instead
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: you went and get him to the Greek under the
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: radar like it.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: I honestly I think get Him to the Greek does
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: not get enough credit. I think it is so funny. Yea,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: it is so ridiculous, but it is absolutely so funny
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: because it paints such a funny picture of like, you know,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: rock stars and I hearing stories from a couple of
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: people that have like I mean, it's very on brand
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: with what shit goes on in that world. But it's
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: just I just found that scene, the Jeffrey scene is
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: the best to think about a Jeffrey. It goes away,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: but then it comes back.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: Another rewatch here for you. Send up on sixty. Go
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: check out Good in the Greek if you haven't seen
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: it for JD and Tallamadnea. Thanks so much for listening
• 1:06:11
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