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PCA Bunting with 2 strikes, Kyle Green takes over at UNI, Hawkeye talk with Eliot Clough on spring football & the transfer portal · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  Alright, good afternoon. Welcome Miller and Condon.
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  It's a Wednesday on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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  Back at it for the next block of six hours of programming,
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  starting with Miller and Condon. You're Trent Condon.
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  Ken Miller until 2 off the bench.
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  Sean and Lucas until 5:00. Overtime Iowa 5 until 6.
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  Here's what's coming up on our program as far as our guest
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  list. We will start things off at the
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  bottom of the hour. Elliott Clough covers the
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  Hawkeyes. Kirk Ference had his spring
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  presser yesterday. Some interesting Nuggets that
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  came out of that, so I'm sure Trent and I'll toss those around
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  before Elliott comes in here at 12:30 to talk.
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  Hawks. Our only guest in the first hour
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  of the program. It's Wednesday, which means we
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  head to Chicago to start our second hour.
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  David Kaplan on the situation with the Bears and the fact that
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  Roger Goodell is now putting a little pressure on the Bears to,
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  you know, what to get off the pot.
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  Is it Illinois? Did Indiana make up your damn
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  minds? Put a shovel in the ground,
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  Let's go, Goodell. Yet the league with the winter
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  meetings yesterday made that very clear.
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  So we'll do that. We'll do the Cubs.
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  Apparently there's a analytics I've changed since I was a kid.
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  Bunting on 3rd strike is now OK with two strikes.
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  I mean bunting with two strikes is OK now?
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  I don't get it. Did you wear wear that?
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  I I did not. I know it's new to me.
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  New to me too, but reading some of the comments last night,
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  apparently I don't know anything about baseball because I heard
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  that I didn't hear that. I read that a lot of you people
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  that do old school don't know anything really top of the
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  night. Let me set the scene.
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  It's 2 nothing Angels. PCA leads off the 9th strike,
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  one strike, two tries to bunt. On the third pitch it's popped
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  up. Foul ball.
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  Back to the Dago de goes. It was a good idea for PCA.
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  Apparently. I hate analytics.
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  David Kaplan kicks off the second hour and then Rob Doster
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  field of 68 will once again join us.
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  We'll break down the final four with Rob.
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  Look forward to that. Trent Scott, some plays of the
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  day. There is a basketball game
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  tonight, maybe kind of an it's a big #9 1/2 ten Oklahoma in
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  Colorado. Colorado.
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  Not much left on that roster. So we'll see.
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  But plenty of day baseball, lots to keep an eye on, including CB
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  Buckner behind home plate in Milwaukee.
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  And for me, that's worth the price of admission.
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  He is so bad and it was on full display once again last night.
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  Did you see the play? I did, absolutely.
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  You sent it to me right away. I saw Twitter absolutely going
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  nuts about it. And now I'll be honest, when I
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  first thought, here Ken goes again.
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  You know this isn't going to be that big of a deal, right?
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  And then? You clicked on the video.
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  I watched the video as one of the most This is worse than Jim
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  Joyce this. Is this might be the worst call
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  I've ever seen. This is worse than Dankinger.
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  Yes. This is making crap up.
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  Yes, he wasn't obstructed. No.
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  He had a perfect view. Now he chose not to look at the
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  base, and that was the. Problem, right?
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  But then to not only already missed it, things happen, your
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  eyes wander completely understand that.
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  Maybe you have to sneeze and look down.
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  Whatever. But instead of just taking the
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  easy way out, well, obviously he's safe, right?
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  He makes up that he missed first base.
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  There is nothing, none that would lead you to believe it's.
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  Not like he just touched the base with the, you know, the tip
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  of his toe. His whole shoe was on first
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  base. Not only that, our buddy JP
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  Richardson with Central Iowa Sports a big time umpire.
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  He tell you too. It's not just about your eyes,
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  it's also your ears without a doubt.
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  And one of the simplest things if your eyes do wander is you
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  hear the cleats hit first base. Yep.
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  Or the ball to hit the first baseman's glove.
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  Instead, he makes it up. Made it up.
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  Totally made it up. An awful, awful look.
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  No, and he gets home plate today and I can't wait until the two
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  teams start to embarrass this cat by touching their helmet.
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  I love the Absi think it was Snyder who and I never thought
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  of this before. It adds to the experience of
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  being at a baseball game because once you realize that they're
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  going to the replay and it doesn't take long at all.
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  I love this part. You then see on your Jumbotron
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  exactly what we're seeing at home on television sets, whether
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  it's in the strike zone or out of the strike zone, whether it
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  was a good challenge or a bad challenge, it kind of makes it
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  in in a small. Way interactive, right?
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  Yeah, because you can see at least with what the TV box has,
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  which is not official but pretty good.
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  And then you take it a step further and very quickly you get
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  to know and then the umpire. Now, one thing that I do, I told
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  you about my theory yesterday, right?
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  As we're going to say, instead of pitch catch framing, it's
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  going to go the opposite direction.
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  We're going to have them move that ball out just a little bit
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  and then maybe trick the team into using the challenge and go
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  that direction. And that's a possibility.
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  One theory that I heard that at minimum's interesting is if this
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  is something and for the betters out there, maybe this is an
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  angle, is that this is going to hurt the elite level guys,
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  starting pitchers because those are the guys we think back to,
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  Greg. Maddock.
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  Oh, he was. He's the poster.
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  Child. I mean, if ABS was a thing then.
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  He's not in the Hall of Fame. He still might be a Hall of
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  Famer, but but the numbers are not going to look quite safe.
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  Him and Clavin, that whole Braves pitching staff, but
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  particularly Maddox, you're. Right.
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  He was one of one as it pertained to that and just the
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  movement that you saw that was pitch framing before pitch
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  framing was a thing. Just all the parts but the home
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  plate umpire, who was his. Catcher Eddie.
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  What's Eddie's last name? It it it wasn't Javi Lo.
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  Was. Not it was Eddie.
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  Eddie. He had his personal catcher.
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  What the hell was There was a couple of different ones, but
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  you know, Eddie. Was the guy Eddie?
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  I think it's Eddie. Is it Eddie?
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  Eddie doesn't. Doesn't ring a bell.
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  No, Eddie didn't say. Oh yeah, in my mind.
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  OK, anyway. 2 old guys for getting things on radio.
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  About a backup catcher. He was different and now when we
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  bring it to today's environment, hope plate umpire is going to
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  give the benefit of the doubt. To an elite guy.
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  To the top plate, starting pitching veterans.
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  Yeah, yes, that very well has a chance to change, I thought a
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  minimum. That's the theory.
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  I think keeping an eye on going forward of how that looks.
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  Yeah, No, I'm with you. It's fascinating.
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  It it adds A wrinkle. I'm surprised that didn't get
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  here earlier. Glad it's here now.
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  And I I think that this is going to be something that's
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  universally maybe not loved, but certainly accepted by baseball
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  fans who follow the game of, of baseball.
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  I want to get to Kirk Ference, what he said yesterday, Eddie
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  Perez, Eddie Perez, Eddie Perez. That was his catcher, Eddie
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  Perez. Eddie Perez, you had the Eddie.
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  Yep, you had the Eddie. Nailed it.
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  Absolutely. No, No big deal.
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  Anyways, are you any closer to spinning out the national
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  champion? Michigan.
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  You are Michigan. You said that very quickly.
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  I did. I have.
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  I don't think yesterday you were at that spot.
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  I wasn't. I told you, probably what's
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  going to lean in that direction for me is what we saw obviously
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  on the sideline. The difference between Tommy
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  Lloyd and Dusty May I think is pretty significant.
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  So. Does Tommy Lloyd not not coming
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  out and saying I'm not going to North Carolina factor in your
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  decision is all? Is this a distraction for this
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  Arizona T Trent, he's going to, he's going to North Carolina.
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  You think so? I absolutely do.
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  If he's not, why isn't he coming out and saying that he's not?
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  They're gonna have a good coach. After me talking about the
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  Arizona there's after I'm gone, there's gonna be there's gonna
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  be another great coach come through here.
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  Just look how TJ handled it. Yes.
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  Look, I'm gonna call him very quickly.
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  You know what? No, that's not I'm here.
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  I'm good. And I know we've heard coaches
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  say that before. Yeah, and that's why I.
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  But not time after time after time after time.
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  And now you're in the Final Four.
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  What's he gonna do when he gets to Indianapolis?
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  How many times is he gonna have to answer this?
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  Question and he'll answer it in the same way.
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  And then he'll take the North Carolina jump.
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  But what if Billy Donovan's going to take the North Carolina
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  job? He is still the betting
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  favorite. Is he?
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  Yes. And so the theory there is he
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  hasn't taken it because the Bulls season's not over yet.
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  But if he's going to take it, you have to do it now.
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  All right, what's the portal open next Wednesday?
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  No, today and is. It today or is it today?
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  Yeah, it's today on the men's side.
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  OK, so there's two different. Ones and the women open on
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  Monday. I believe I have that correct.
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  That's memory off the top of my head.
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  I think that's what it is. But regardless, Billy Donovan's
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  going to take this job. If he is, you can't wait until
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  the end of the regular season for the Bulls.
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  You have to get this job and you have to be doing it right now.
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  So why is Tommy Lloyd stick handling around the question
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  then? Why does he come out right?
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  What what does he have to gain? He's going to the national,
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  well, what seems like the national championship game he's
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  playing on in the Final four. It's not like you know, if there
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  is an interest in renegotiating his contract, I'm sure that that
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  that is already in motion, right?
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  I I just think I'm on the complete opposite side of this
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  because it bothers the crap out of me when they come out
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  definitive because we've seen so many coaches, millions and one
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  way or the other, the way Tommy Lloyd's doing it, the way TJ
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  Outsenberger did it, it's no difference to me.
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  Have you seen a coach in this spot though, Trent?
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  Have you seen a coach this far in?
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  I think we have have we? I believe so.
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  I can't think of an example off the top of my I just this part
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  of it one way or the other. OK, so he's going to lie to you
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  to make you feel better for a week and then go take the job or
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  just say it. This I, I, I don't think it
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  makes it definitive one way or the other because coaches have
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  lied to us for so long. They have come out with strong,
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  strong responses and then they lie and they take a job a day or
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  a week later because of that. I have no problem with Lloyd.
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  I don't think it's distract. It just is a distraction for
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  Dusty Mays. I don't think so.
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  I don't think that that falls into the thinking of these guys
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  and how many of these Arizona guys are going to be there next
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  year. Well, sure.
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  You know, I mean, we know the guys that have exhausted their
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  eligibility and, and Bradley's obviously not going to be there
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  anymore and, and you're not going to see.
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  Berries is going to the league. He has berries.
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  Going to the league bill roughly Yep I mean so those guys are all
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  booping on too if it does play out in that fashion I.
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  What if his team, what if his team gets embarrassed by
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  Michigan, you know, and, and he does take the North Carolina
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  job, He's going to be public anyway.
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  Number one in Tucson, maybe that doesn't.
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  Bother him. Yeah, right.
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  Right. It's not like you're going to
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  you're, you're going to the ACC, you're not going to make yearly
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  trips to Tucson Exactly 1 would assume.
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  I'm probably not going to sign a home and home with him,
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  probably. Not yeah.
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  Kyle Green is now going back home to you and I.
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  He is leaving TJ staff, the third coach in two years,
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  Robinson two years ago and then obviously two more this year.
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  Blunt and now Green is gone. Do you like to hire 56 years
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  old? I like it because I don't think
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  he's a climber. I don't think he's taking this
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  job to get to better himself, to get a bigger job down the road
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  at his age. And he's not all by any means.
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  You're 56. Obviously his son is as
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  decorated as anybody that ever played basketball there.
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  I think that this is probably it for him.
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  And you can kind of lock it in. You think at minimum he's going
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  to do? A good job.
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  This is maybe not the upside of some of a candidate that could
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  be out there where you're going to hit a Grand Slam with a solid
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  dump. See, Tuttle I think takes the
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  job for a while and if they have success, he's looking to climb
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  that ladder. I don't think Kyle Green is.
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  Now the question also becomes, does Seth Tuttle stick around or
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  is he going to go to Utah State with Ben Jacobson?
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  What? About gold Ames.
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  Could be a possibility. They got a couple couple of
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  vacancies, yes. Don't know what kind of
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  connection or relationship that Ottson and Tuttle have, if
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  that's something that would make sense.
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  But for him. Or does this become very simple?
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  Tuttle becomes the associate head coach and the head coach in
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  waiting and and that's the direction that you and I.
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  Will sign five years. Yes.
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  So it's not a long 7-8 year deal, anything like that.
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  And you know, here is the Ascension plan, it's here, it's
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  on paper, we make that happen and have Seth Tuttle, the head
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  coach in waiting for some places.
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  It hasn't worked at others. But regardless, that's the
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  direction. I think that would make a whole
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  lot of sense for you and I. Were you surprised it was only a
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  five year deal? His age?
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  Not really. Yeah, when you when you factor
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  it in like that. And you and I is not financially
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  in a spot. Probably, although they probably
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  save well they didn't probably they save money, right.
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  Yeah, with with Ben, who what I saw his contact was at 1.3 I
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  think 1.3 to start and then incremental raises throughout
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  the the length of his contract at Utah State.
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  They're they're giddy reading some of the stuff from on on his
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  hiring. They are ecstatic out there that
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  that they got Ben Jacobson. And and initially there was some
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  blowback. Was there?
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  Yeah. One NCAA tournament a decade,
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  tough to swallow when you made seven, last eight NCAA
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  tournaments. And we're bringing in this guy
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  and all the young guns that they've done.
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  But I think as more people have realized, and one thing I've
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  also seen is people understanding the financial
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  constraints that you and I and how tough it has been, and even
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  in comparison to the brethren in the MVC, it's a different kind
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  of job. He's done a really good job,
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  very well. Could have been a tournament
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  team in 2020. There's been close calls,
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  there's been disappointing losses during this decade before
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  they finally got back to it. But they're getting a good
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  coach. I think we all around here know
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  that. Yeah, no, I agree.
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  Kind of sad to see him gone. Thought he'd be there for good
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  and but you know what? He took a chance and and off he
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  goes to Utah State. Cal Green moves on and T JS got
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  a couple of vacancies. Do you read anything into that
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  for Otts having two guys apart? Just you know what I read into
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  it, I read into it that he's starting to, his tree is
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  starting to sprout, trying to to grow some branches.
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  I don't, I mean, obviously he's had a ton of success at Iowa
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  State and had a bunch of success very quickly.
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  He's a hell of a recruiter. He's a hell of a recruiter
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  before he came a head coach. I I think it's a positive, the
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  guy that the teams are looking at the TJ staff and and plucking
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  guys off of it. So that's how I took it.
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  I'm with you. Couple open jobs there.
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  They got Air Crawford still around.
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  You wonder does he ascend up a level?
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  Some people threw his name into the ring also for EU and I job.
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  If Greed wasn't interested and and Tuttle maybe went a
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  different direction. That was one that was talked
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  about. Deonte Garrett, he's an
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  assistant coach. Does he move up the ranks?
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  Oh, maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  George, are they going outside of the group that's there right
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  now as opposed to going out there?
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  Because Blunt did a lot as it pertains to the recruiting side
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  and he also did a lot on the offensive side of things.
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  And now you lose your defensive guy with with Kyle Green moving
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  on to you and I. So there's work to be done now
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  in this coaching staff. Portal update wrestling today
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  women Monday men is next Tuesday, Tuesday next Tuesday
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  the men. So got a little time before it
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  opens, but before you know it, it's going to be here in a way.
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  We're going to go with with that one.
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  There was a couple of NFL things I wanted to bring up to you.
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  NFL Things. Well, just the fact that though
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  the meetings are going on right now, I think they're in Phoenix.
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  I'm just going to be a 5 diamond, not a five star.
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  You know the best that the best of the best that you can get.
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  It does sound like we are going to have a a football game on
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  Thanksgiving Eve. Wednesday night.
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  Wednesday night it it sounds like that and sounds as though
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  Goodell is going to package that with another holiday game and
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  and make that available to a Netflix or a Hulu or whatever
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  the Internet service du jour happens to be.
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  But it does sound like it's going in that direction.
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  It was just more money for the NFL.
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  But the thing I wanted to talk to you about, and obviously
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  we're going to get with Kathy. Did you hear Goodell yesterday
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  kind of putting pressure on the Bears to make their decision
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  with where they're going to ultimately call home?
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  Yeah, he did. He was.
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  He was asked the question and he didn't scold them.
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  But the end of his statement was and this is something that needs
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  to happen relatively soon. Yes, right.
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  Yeah, so we made it pretty clear like the the league is watching.
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  We would like some clarity on where, you know, one of our
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  flagship franchises is going to play their play their home
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  games. It sounds as though, I mean, I,
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  I don't know, Kathy's great. Kevin Warren's been working on
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  this for three years. Yes.
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  Right, that's been his only job. You you would think that after
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  three years he'd have a little bit more of an answer to give.
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  I don't know. I can't see the move in the
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  Indiana. I just I get the I get.
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  Both New York franchises. Playing New Jersey, I understand
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  that. Though commanders do not play in
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  no. The Commanders don't, though.
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  They're now, will they? They're going back though,
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  right? The 49ers?
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  Does it matter to you? You're a Bears fan?
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  I don't care if the Broncos move to Wyoming.
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  Right, but Denver's also in the middle of the state.
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  Sure. I mean, if if the Wyoming border
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  was in north Denver, would you care?
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  No. No, I don't think so.
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  And it's and it's How far? It's.
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  Closer and for some locales. From downtown, it is closer and
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  quicker by car to get to Hammond, IN than it is to get to
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  Arlington. Is that due to traffic?
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  Both. Both in terms of mileage, Crow
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  crow. Flies would be what?
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  I think Hammond actually has a beat.
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  Does it really? Yeah, it's it's part of Chicago.
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  It's closer than I thought. I mean, I just didn't realize my
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  Canadian is showing. My apologies.
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  Yeah, they're not putting into champagne, right?
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  And they they played for. You.
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  They did. Yes, they did.
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  This is not hours and hours. How many years ago was that?
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  Was it 20? 15, probably no.
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  Yeah, more than that. 20 or maybe even a touch.
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  Yeah. More than 20, I think now, man,
• 18:24
  we're getting old. More than 20.
• 18:27
  But that's one thing. It's just, it's never bothered
• 18:29
  me. Now personally, I would like to
• 18:30
  see Arlington Heights, but it doesn't matter one iota one way
• 18:34
  or the other to me. Hammond, IN.
• 18:36
  It's just the Indiana part of it.
• 18:37
  I don't bother some people. I'm sure if I was a Chicagoan,
• 18:41
  it would be different. I understand that part of it and
• 18:44
  city pride and civic pride and all the things that go along
• 18:46
  with it. But in the grand scheme of
• 18:48
  things, you put in one suburb, you put it in another.
• 18:50
  And the actual deal that they're going to get from Indiana, it's
• 18:54
  a lot better than what they're going to.
• 18:55
  Get from well they're they're essentially blank checking right
• 18:58
  yeah. And do do what you need to do
• 19:00
  absolutely and we'll do what we need to do I and when it when it
• 19:03
  happened, I remember my take the the next day was well, this is
• 19:08
  just politics and it's worse, right?
• 19:09
  This is somebody trying to get their name in the paper.
• 19:12
  Was it the governor of Indiana that came out very quickly and
• 19:15
  said we're going to accommodate. You right, this was much
• 19:17
  different than the grandstanding that happened to Quad Cities.
• 19:20
  Oh my God, that. Was on the Iowa side of the
• 19:23
  border over there. That would be different.
• 19:26
  That would be like your Denver Broncos move to Cheyenne, right?
• 19:29
  Having a stadium there, that's what it would be like putting
• 19:32
  it. Can you imagine that stadium?
• 19:34
  It just silliness. That's all it is.
• 19:37
  It's it's goofiness, it's silliness, it's grandstanding
• 19:39
  and all that part. But I don't it doesn't bother me
• 19:41
  one bit. One thing I did notice.
• 19:44
  So they approve these rule changes that are boring.
• 19:46
  Right, it's NFL rule changes. Yeah, the the rule changes that
• 19:49
  were applied, it's like kickoff rules and there was a loophole.
• 19:52
  If you're kicking off off from the 50, they could Kick It Out
• 19:55
  about like OK. Oh, they changed that, right?
• 19:57
  Because they exploited that last year, Yeah, however.
• 20:01
  So the Tish push now isn't a thing since the Eagles didn't
• 20:03
  win the Super Bowl. I guess.
• 20:05
  I mean, how much time did we spend last year talking about
• 20:09
  the Tush Bush and banning it and getting rid of it?
• 20:11
  And it's going, it's not happening this year, but it's
• 20:13
  certainly going to happen next year.
• 20:15
  And since the Eagles took a step back this year, no, we don't
• 20:17
  care. No, it just it's it's baffling.
• 20:20
  I hate the play. I want to see it out.
• 20:22
  Laud. I absolutely despise it.
• 20:24
  It's not aesthetically pleasing. It's not football.
• 20:26
  That's rugby. Rugby.
• 20:29
  That's not football to me. But that aside, all the
• 20:32
  consternation that was out there, all the frustration, if
• 20:35
  you weren't an Eagles fan, all right, it's going to go away.
• 20:37
  Certainly in 2026 not even voted on.
• 20:41
  Our last thing and before we get to our break and then we're
• 20:43
  going to get to Elliot Klev. We'll recap what Kirk Ference
• 20:45
  had to say yesterday as he met the media.
• 20:47
  You know, back-to-back to where we started.
• 20:49
  I'm watching the Cubs game last night.
• 20:51
  It's the 9th inning and PCA is down.
• 20:52
  O2 win the count and he tried to lay down a bunt.
• 20:58
  I guess he's he's as fast as the wind right?
• 21:01
  He truly is and I love watching him round the bases.
• 21:05
  This is something that's OK now to do in baseball.
• 21:10
  What am I missing? 2 strikes You never bunt.
• 21:13
  Do you? You don't.
• 21:17
  I don't think it is. Well, I don't know, because I
• 21:19
  was told very I didn't. I wasn't.
• 21:21
  I wasn't in the fight. I was just reading the the
• 21:23
  comments back and forth and there was I guess guys that you
• 21:26
  know, I've been watching baseball all my life.
• 21:28
  I've never seen this before. Why would he do that?
• 21:32
  You need to get on base. You're down 02.
• 21:35
  If you want to bunt, strike one, strike two, that's fine.
• 21:38
  But when you're to your last gasp again, it's game five.
• 21:43
  I'm not going to lose my mind over it.
• 21:45
  I think a big part is he's not a good contact guy and maybe it
• 21:50
  was just something with the match up, didn't like what he
• 21:52
  saw or just as simple as the shortstops playing on the grass.
• 21:55
  The third base was playing on the grass.
• 21:57
  I get this down. It's an automatic hit.
• 21:59
  Sure. And we saw him do it.
• 22:01
  We saw him do it on the weekend. Not not down O2 in the couch,
• 22:04
  right? But to pop that up, did you hear
• 22:07
  afterwards? Did it come from the dugout?
• 22:09
  Couldn't have or was that PCA on?
• 22:11
  I did. I didn't see that.
• 22:12
  I'm going to ask Kathy that, but I could tell because Boog and JD
• 22:17
  said nothing. So that didn't sit well with
• 22:20
  them, I'm guessing. Anyways, All right, take a time
• 22:24
  out. Elliott Clef coming up.
• 22:25
  Did you hear anything from Ference before we get to
• 22:27
  Elliott? That kind of stuck with you.
• 22:29
  Yes, the one when he was asked about Tony Diaz, the incoming
• 22:33
  wide receiver from UT Rio Grande Valley, and he said he likes to
• 22:37
  catch the ball good. You know, like, like a Curt
• 22:40
  Clegg, you know. But he said he's also fast.
• 22:42
  But it was just a praise that you so rarely hear from new guys
• 22:48
  that it doesn't matter if it's a freshman or a transfer.
• 22:51
  It's incredibly rare that you hear that kind of praise as a
• 22:55
  football player, leadership qualities, those kind of things.
• 22:58
  We've heard that Gronowski, We even heard about McNamara when
• 23:01
  he showed up. But to hear it about on the
• 23:04
  practice field, it just stuck with me.
• 23:07
  It stuck with me, sorry. That you think maybe they've got
• 23:10
  something there? I do.
• 23:11
  I mean, Tony Diaz had an Alabama visit lined up and Iowa came in
• 23:16
  and didn't let him get on that second visit to Alabama.
• 23:19
  There's a guy that was wanted in the portal and to hear that kind
• 23:22
  of praise, maybe it's just walking through the desert and
• 23:26
  searching for that drink of water and just anything out of
• 23:29
  the wide receiver ranks for the Hawkeyes.
• 23:31
  Maybe maybe that's the reason that it stuck with me a little
• 23:34
  bit more, but it was impactful to hear Kirk say that about a
• 23:37
  wide receiver, a new wide receiver.
• 23:40
  I think that said a lot. So Tony Diaz just filed that
• 23:43
  file. That one away.
• 23:44
  We got the spring prospectus. We however did not get a depth.
• 23:48
  Chart, you know, I looked for it this morning, I couldn't find.
• 23:51
  It so I think I also know the reason behind it is you remember
• 23:56
  Kirk last year there was a point and I can't remember if it was.
• 23:59
  I know. He didn't put on a depth chart
• 24:00
  in August for the first time ever.
• 24:02
  Right. It was on the heels of Big 10
• 24:05
  Media Day because A I believe that the way that they are
• 24:08
  structured in terms of NIL payments, if you're a starter,
• 24:12
  this is a baseline. If you're second on the depth
• 24:15
  chart, this is a baseline. So that factors in the depth.
• 24:18
  Chart and he mentioned something about getting calls from family.
• 24:21
  Members. Oh my God, about.
• 24:23
  That depth chart, depth chart until we get to the season.
• 24:26
  It's meaningless. It's something for us to get
• 24:28
  excited. About it absolutely is.
• 24:29
  I mean, and they broke down the roster in a different way.
• 24:32
  They had all the position groups kind of where did.
• 24:34
  You find it because I went to Hawkeye Sports and I couldn't
• 24:36
  find it. It was in the e-mail that that
• 24:38
  Whites, yeah, that whites sent out.
• 24:40
  I'll, I'll send it along to you though, because yes, not a depth
• 24:43
  chart, but still kind of a good, a good viewing and I think
• 24:46
  you'll like that. I'll print it off for you.
• 24:47
  So parents is getting calls from parents based on NIL and
• 24:52
  somebody who's making more. Money believe my sons, not
• 24:55
  second because you also know it. Being second on that depth chart
• 24:58
  means a little extra Ching Ching Wow, but a world just stay away
• 25:02
  from. It Elliot, Clough, Miller and
• 25:03
  Condon. We're underway on our Wednesday.
• 25:05
  David Kaplan kicks off our number 2.
• 25:08
  I look forward to catching up with Cappy and then Rob Doster
• 25:12
  field of 68. Let's break down these two final
• 25:15
  four games. Trench plays of the day.
• 25:17
  Circus Sports sponsor those. Those will happen just before we
• 25:20
  scram AT2O clock, Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio
• 25:23
  Network. I'm Hillary Cod.
• 25:31
  They just passed 12:30. It's the Iowa Sports Radio
• 25:33
  Network wherever listening in the state of Iowa.
• 25:36
  We are grateful that you are. By the way, do you hate today
• 25:39
  like I hate today? As far as is it just because I'm
• 25:42
  old? No.
• 25:43
  These aren't even funny. The stuff that's.
• 25:45
  Put on Twitter, there's plenty of those that are out there.
• 25:48
  I got duped today by the head of Locked On there was an e-mail
• 25:52
  new company structure, new company.
• 25:56
  Basically, if you do not, if you have a guest on the podcast and
• 26:00
  you don't get right to the content, you ask them how
• 26:02
  they're doing, you have to write a apology letter to our
• 26:05
  marketing And like I'm reading through it was right as we were
• 26:08
  getting ready to tape ATV our TV show inside the number.
• 26:10
  So I'm walking and look at like what is this?
• 26:12
  And there's like 5 different ones and and then I figured it
• 26:15
  out just. Drives me crazy.
• 26:18
  I got duped once bad as a kid my mom woke me up no school today
• 26:23
  snow day there. Was no snow on there?
• 26:26
  That's mean. That was that's mean.
• 26:28
  Kim's not. Yeah, she's got the mean side to
• 26:31
  her. She got me.
• 26:33
  Let's get Elliot Cluff in here. He joins the program.
• 26:35
  We recap yesterday's announcement with Kirk Ferrant.
• 26:38
  Not announcement, press conference yesterday with Kirk
• 26:41
  Ferrant's Elliot Trenton Kent hawkeyeinsider.com By the way,
• 26:43
  for Elliot, how are you? I'm good.
• 26:47
  How are you guys I'm doing? OK, you're not going to try and
• 26:49
  pull the wool over our eyes, are you?
• 26:51
  I promise I will. I hate this day on Twitter too.
• 26:54
  It I just like you said, it's not funny.
• 26:57
  It's stupid. Like we're a grown adult.
• 26:59
  What are we doing here? Right.
• 27:00
  And the fact is some people are announcing some other people's
• 27:03
  death. April Fools.
• 27:05
  That's not funny anyway. So let's move on from that.
• 27:10
  And obviously Kirk Ference met the media yesterday, an area I
• 27:13
  know is going to sure quarterback.
• 27:15
  It's that gets all the attention.
• 27:18
  But I was been really, really blessed when it comes to special
• 27:22
  teams, specialists. And obviously there's going to
• 27:25
  be a ton of change over there with returners and kickers and
• 27:29
  punters. This is an area and probably
• 27:32
  more so for August. As we get closer to September
• 27:35
  and realize that the season is upon us, that's probably going
• 27:39
  to get more more focus on it at that time.
• 27:41
  But but I was been spoiled here, I guess is where I'm going,
• 27:45
  Elliot, over the last few years. Yeah, they have.
• 27:48
  I mean, Kirk, finally, he might have said it during the fall,
• 27:53
  but finally he said that We Gen. was about as good as returners
• 27:57
  as he's had since he's been coaching.
• 27:59
  So finally given some some praise there.
• 28:02
  And you know, in comparison to some of the other returners, I
• 28:05
  mean, losing we Gen. in my opinion, is probably the biggest
• 28:09
  one. I mean, he's he's electric man.
• 28:12
  Like I haven't seen a returner like him.
• 28:14
  But I mean, like, Cooper obviously had a couple moments
• 28:18
  in there. I never got to see Tim Dwight,
• 28:20
  but like, I mean, he's the greatest returner in Iowa
• 28:24
  history in my mind. So he's the biggest loss in my
• 28:26
  opinion. I didn't think Reese Bacon was
• 28:28
  all that great. I I think Eli Ozik was was
• 28:32
  consistent for North Dakota State.
• 28:34
  He had his season long. I can't remember how far it was,
• 28:37
  but it was outdoors. It was not in the Dakota Dome.
• 28:41
  Yeah. So I think that was an Indiana
• 28:43
  State, if I'm remembering correctly.
• 28:44
  So of course we'll we'll see with, with punter between Phil
• 28:48
  Pot and the the Aussie kid that they're bringing over.
• 28:51
  But I've between kicker and and returner.
• 28:54
  I, I, I mean, I think they'll be alright at kicker.
• 28:56
  I think returner, they always figure something out.
• 28:58
  It'll be interesting to see how Chris Polly, he kind of put
• 29:01
  things together and you know, we see the difference in
• 29:04
  development between he and a guy like Lavar Wood because
• 29:07
  obviously Woods was awesome and and he was poached there by by
• 29:12
  Michigan State, Pat Fitzgerald for a reason.
• 29:15
  But I think returner wise, I think you're going to look at
• 29:18
  back lumber at punt returner, kick returner a bit more open up
• 29:22
  in the air. I think I may have told you guys
• 29:24
  this before, but we didn't actually told me that Braden
• 29:27
  Jackson, a walk on running back from this last year's class is a
• 29:31
  guy that he would watch at kick returner.
• 29:33
  So that that's really interesting.
• 29:35
  Of course, Brevin Doll back and you want to see more of him, but
• 29:40
  yeah, just kind of an interesting group to follow.
• 29:43
  Any kid. Yes, caught Kensai right away
• 29:45
  and Fred Jacksons son who of course played got it for a very
• 29:49
  long time and I called a lot of Bradens games and he's good.
• 29:52
  I watched a lot of his daddy's. Games absolutely get him as a
• 29:55
  walk on. Well, we talked earlier about
• 29:58
  praise. Kirk Ference is not one to throw
• 29:59
  praise around. It took two almost historic
• 30:02
  seasons before we can kind of got his flowers from Kirk.
• 30:05
  But he was throwing around a little praise yesterday for Tony
• 30:08
  Diaz, the incoming wide receiver.
• 30:10
  To hear that for a new guy on campus, it just very UN Kirk
• 30:14
  like take us into that one just a little bit Elliot and some of
• 30:17
  the buzz and excitement that is being created by Tony Diaz.
• 30:22
  We have definitely heard quite a bit of buzz about him out of
• 30:25
  skills and drills, but also in the early bits of of spring
• 30:29
  practice so far. He's a guy with a wide catch
• 30:32
  radius, kind of one of those playmakers that Iowa hasn't
• 30:36
  really had at the receiver spot in quite a while.
• 30:40
  I mean, like you said, and even just generally, Kirk isn't 1 to
• 30:44
  hand out big time compliments, but like to compliment a wide
• 30:47
  receiver. Say what?
• 30:50
  So, so he's definitely one that I'm, I'm personally really
• 30:53
  excited about has gained a lot of buzz.
• 30:56
  I think the quote was, I tweeted it out.
• 30:58
  I can't remember what it was, but it was something to the
• 31:00
  effect of, I mean, he catches anything in his, his general
• 31:05
  area. And we've seen some of those
• 31:06
  clips so far from from Iowa social media.
• 31:10
  He's he's going to be one that's fun.
• 31:12
  He's going to be one that I think fans really, really fall
• 31:16
  in love with. And whoever plays quarterback is
• 31:19
  going to be very happy that he's on the roster, I'm thinking.
• 31:23
  And I think a lot of the throws that we've seen, well, I guess
• 31:27
  the one deep shot that was a pass to Tony Diaz was from Hank
• 31:29
  Brown. But how about Jeremy Hecklinski
• 31:32
  and all the publication he's getting on on the Iowa football
• 31:36
  socials, Huh? Yeah.
• 31:37
  No, it really is. Would you say he's got a he's
• 31:40
  he's the leader in the clubhouse at this point.
• 31:42
  Ference didn't want to be committal and why would he?
• 31:44
  He's got a long time before it needed to be decided, as he
• 31:47
  said. But do you think if if Ference
• 31:50
  was to tip his hand leader in the clubhouse, it would be
• 31:53
  Klinsky at this point? And I, I, I don't know, I, I,
• 31:59
  everything I've heard right now is that it is really a
• 32:01
  legitimate competition. They, Hecklinski and Hank Brown
• 32:06
  obviously bring different skill sets, different physical tools
• 32:09
  to the table. I think, I think people want to
• 32:12
  see the exciting stuff from their quarterback.
• 32:14
  And I mean, I'm one of them. Like I want to see more of
• 32:17
  Hecklinski. I want to see what he can do on
• 32:20
  the fly. Hank Brown probably more of a
• 32:22
  safer option, more willing to take the check down instead of
• 32:26
  making tough roads. So that sounds more like a Kirk
• 32:29
  Ference quarterback to me. But Hecklinski is the one that I
• 32:33
  think think could be a guy that takes this offense a step
• 32:37
  forward. But right now it really does
• 32:40
  appear to be dead even between these two in spring ball.
• 32:44
  And and you know, again, that's what we're hearing behind the
• 32:46
  scenes. So one of them has a has a
• 32:49
  chance to separate themselves here in the spring and and into
• 32:52
  fall camp. But if I had to give one of them
• 32:54
  an edge personally, it would be Hecklinski.
• 32:57
  But I still very much a wait and see right now.
• 33:00
  I'm it's it's trouble, It's it's it's difficult to read between
• 33:03
  the lines at this point. Offensive line in front of them,
• 33:07
  you lose a lot of big pieces, but great building blocks with
• 33:10
  Trevor Lauken, what he did as a first year of a starter, and
• 33:12
  obviously Kate Peeper, who had an opportunity to move on and
• 33:15
  stuck around in Iowa City for another year.
• 33:17
  Some of the other guys, though, I think we anticipate we're
• 33:20
  going to see a lot of Jack Dozler.
• 33:22
  Al Guyer's a young guy that's been talked about.
• 33:24
  What can you tell us though, about Michael Mislinski because
• 33:27
  looked like sound like all systems go.
• 33:29
  He's going to come back, get an extra year of eligibility with
• 33:31
  the all the injuries he has dealt with.
• 33:33
  Then there's some talk maybe he wasn't on the roster.
• 33:35
  I saw yesterday they had the roster.
• 33:37
  He was out there. What can you tell us about Miss
• 33:39
  Linski? Because it feels like at minimum
• 33:41
  he's going to be starting for one of those interior spots?
• 33:44
  Well, I'd love to tell you more than what you just provided,
• 33:47
  right? But that's about all I got to
• 33:49
  OK, I really would. I don't really know what's going
• 33:54
  on at this point in time. That was the last update that I
• 33:56
  got to. I think, you know, you get him
• 34:00
  back. Obviously our Matt Dennett at
• 34:02
  CBS Sports reported that Cade Peeper is going to play center
• 34:05
  this year. I don't know that that has
• 34:07
  completely been been, you know, set in stone at this point in
• 34:11
  time, at least at the very least, the possibility having
• 34:16
  Miss Linsky there at at that right guard spot would be big.
• 34:20
  But at the same time, I mean, you throw in presumably Leighton
• 34:23
  Jones will be that left guard spot.
• 34:26
  But I mean, you brought in Trent Wilson from from James Madison.
• 34:30
  You mentioned all Geyer. I think all Geyer was more of a
• 34:34
  villain just because they didn't really have anybody at that
• 34:36
  spot. And I mean, who knows, maybe,
• 34:38
  maybe he does take another step forward and he's the guy there.
• 34:41
  But if I had to guess, if Miss Linsky is back, that'll be his
• 34:45
  spot, right guard. If not, I, I, I think it'll
• 34:48
  probably be Wilson that James Madison grants for big dude who
• 34:52
  was a punisher in the snaps. He got it at JMU last year.
• 34:57
  And again, that's that's just an educated guess at this point in
• 34:59
  time, not not entirely sure what that's going to look like, but
• 35:04
  the way I see it, it's Miss Lenski's spot.
• 35:07
  You guys mentioned Diaz and how Ference was effusive in his
• 35:11
  praise. Let me ask about LJ Phillips
• 35:13
  because, and I know he was asked the question, so it's not like
• 35:16
  he went out of his way to bring him up, but he certainly had
• 35:18
  lots to say about the South Dakota transfer, a lot of
• 35:21
  positive things to say. What seems to be on the surface
• 35:24
  of pretty Good a pretty deep running backroom are your
• 35:27
  thoughts on LJ Phillips and where Ference perhaps believes
• 35:31
  he can fit in. Yeah, I've, I've heard that LJ
• 35:35
  is like a smoother Jazz Patterson.
• 35:38
  So you lose Jazz Patterson to the portal, but you gain a guy
• 35:41
  that's probably a better runner than him.
• 35:43
  Of course, he's he's that, you know, that battering ram type,
• 35:47
  but a guy that can get in and out of cut and, and make
• 35:50
  defenders miss a little bit more easily than just trying to run
• 35:53
  through their face. So that and a guy that I had a
• 35:58
  ton of yards rushing for South Dakota in the NBFC last year.
• 36:03
  So heard a lot of good things about him.
• 36:04
  I think I think he and Moulton will get the majority of the
• 36:07
  carries this this this fall. I think they'll complement each
• 36:11
  other well, but also they have similar enough skill sets where
• 36:15
  it's like damn, I got to tackle this guy again.
• 36:18
  Kind of a bowling ball way of running at times where they can
• 36:22
  run you over. That's not the only part of
• 36:24
  their skill set, but they have that in their toolbox.
• 36:26
  So I think that's where he fits in.
• 36:29
  I would frankly be incredibly surprised if those two aren't
• 36:34
  splitting the majority of the carry carry.
• 36:36
  Over defensively, I know Kirk was asked about the defensive
• 36:40
  line and and that's the biggest question mark with this group.
• 36:43
  You know, we'll see how linebacker shakes out.
• 36:44
  It's all that young talent we've been talking about.
• 36:46
  It feels like for the last couple of years, defensive
• 36:48
  backfield, even with new faces, you feel like they're in good
• 36:51
  shape there. What are your thoughts up front
• 36:53
  what this defensive line and maybe specifically inside is
• 36:56
  going to look like this year? Yeah, I think defensive tackle
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  has to be the biggest concern at this point because you lose
• 37:04
  Aaron Graves and you lose. Oh my gosh, I I've been so
• 37:09
  focused on basketball and forgetting football players
• 37:11
  names the Central Michigan defensive tackle.
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  Jonah Pace. Yeah, Jonah.
• 37:16
  Pace Golly, sorry, Jonah. Pace you lose both of them the
• 37:21
  the graduation. I mean, you got Bryce Stevenson,
• 37:26
  not Bryce Stevenson, Bryce Hawthorne in there, Stevenson as
• 37:29
  well, but Hawthorne in there as a returner at that tackle spot
• 37:33
  and he'll be a presumed starter. But then you've got Oleg Baju
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  from North Dakota and and and and Stevenson, like I mentioned
• 37:42
  from Holy Cross. But to me, you just you just
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  don't know what you're going to get from those two at the FCS
• 37:49
  level. I've heard a lot Baju, somebody
• 37:52
  described him to me as like the Hulk.
• 37:54
  He's just a big Jack dude. Now can you put it together on
• 37:57
  the football field? That's the question 2 to watch
• 38:00
  are are Brad Fitzgibbon and Devin Kennedy young guys?
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  Fitzgibbon, a red shirt freshman, Kennedy, a red shirt
• 38:08
  sophomore that was part of the 2024 Class A Penn State legacy.
• 38:14
  Fitzgibbon, a kid from Central Methodist in Chicago, one of the
• 38:18
  better football leagues in the Chicago area, that Catholic
• 38:21
  league. So heard some really good things
• 38:23
  about Fitzgibbon. Obviously you're you're hoping
• 38:26
  Yosei Effenessa is starter at that defensive end spot.
• 38:30
  And then Kenneth Meriweather, hopefully he can take a leap
• 38:33
  forward. He's got that physical frame
• 38:36
  that you love to have at defensive end.
• 38:38
  And of course, Kamari Brown from from Elon.
• 38:41
  So that group will be definitely intriguing.
• 38:45
  You know, it's not, it's not a first day thing more often than
• 38:48
  not that you plug and play in that two gap system on the
• 38:52
  defensive line under Calvin Bell.
• 38:54
  So yeah, that's probably the biggest concern for me too,
• 38:58
  because I mean, you look at the linebacker group, they've got
• 39:00
  experience, they've got used the the defensive backs.
• 39:04
  I mean, I I love, love Tyler Brown and Anthony Hawkins coming
• 39:09
  in. Of course you got Zach Lummer
• 39:10
  back. Of course you got Deshaun Lee
• 39:12
  back. That Jalen Watson and Rashaun
• 39:15
  Godfrey should be fun. But yeah, defensive line to me
• 39:18
  is is the biggest concern. Ellie, my last thing for it, and
• 39:22
  I think it was the last question of the of the presser yesterday
• 39:24
  when Ference was said, and I'm paraphrasing, you knew who you
• 39:27
  were going to play. He didn't know where they were
• 39:29
  going to sit on the schedule and Ference's response and he was
• 39:33
  asked to comment on it. His response was Full
• 39:35
  disclosure. I, I had no idea which just, I
• 39:39
  guess it just kind of blew me away, right?
• 39:40
  Because as, as guys that just are, you know, for what Trent
• 39:43
  and I do for fans out there that just live and breathe Hawkeye
• 39:46
  football or whatever your team, your team is, we can't get
• 39:50
  enough of these things yet in a year.
• 39:52
  What is it, 27? It's just been I, I really
• 39:55
  didn't care. It's kind of what he said,
• 39:58
  which, which you know, as, as I reflected on, I thought, you
• 40:01
  know what, that's pretty cool. I wonder if he's always thought
• 40:03
  that way. I maybe not, but I would venture
• 40:08
  to guess that's that was like a Kirk ISM that its finest in my I
• 40:12
  mean like he focused on spring ball right now.
• 40:15
  That's just Kirk right now, especially when you don't have
• 40:18
  your quarterbacks, that that's definitely, that was definitely
• 40:23
  a Kirk ferentism of not not caring.
• 40:28
  About. The schedule and not even I, I I
• 40:30
  would venture to guess it's not even taking up one iota of of
• 40:35
  his brain in power right now. Finally, you mentioned, Elliot
• 40:38
  that you've been in basketball mode.
• 40:40
  We'll get ready for the portal, open it up here soon in our
• 40:43
  final minute. Just kind of set the scene.
• 40:44
  What you anticipate. Is there going to be a surprise?
• 40:47
  A lot of speculation about Alvaro, what fool Garris is
• 40:50
  going to potentially entering the portal, Just exactly what
• 40:53
  you think this is going to look like when the portal opens for
• 40:55
  men's basketball. And that, that's a really good
• 40:59
  question. I, I think, I think the
• 41:01
  speculation is fair regarding Alvaro.
• 41:05
  I mean, like the thing about this time of year is a guy like
• 41:10
  Alvaro can say, man, I want to be here.
• 41:13
  And then that can change after a blank check gets signed right
• 41:18
  by, by somebody who reaches out and whether they do it in the
• 41:22
  binding rules of the NCAA or not, somebody reaches out to his
• 41:26
  camp and said, hey, we're going to offer you XYZ amount of
• 41:29
  money. Like things can change in a drop
• 41:31
  of a hat. And that doesn't just go for
• 41:33
  Paul Barrow. Granted, he's the guy kind of in
• 41:35
  the spotlight right now, people wondering what he's going to do,
• 41:39
  but he would be the one that I think I would.
• 41:42
  I would, I don't know if expect is the right word.
• 41:46
  I don't think expect is the right word that has the the most
• 41:50
  likelihood maybe to enter the portal.
• 41:52
  If you're if you're Ben McCollum and you really want to win and
• 41:57
  win soon, you know, maybe you look at some of those end of the
• 41:59
  bench guys as as ones that's like, OK, you know, we
• 42:03
  appreciate you for being part of the scout team this year, but
• 42:06
  we're going to need you to move on because Ben McCollum is going
• 42:08
  to do what it takes to win. And you know, he said it
• 42:11
  himself. They need some size, They really
• 42:14
  need some playable size and they need a lead guard to to to take
• 42:19
  over that that spot from Bennett's thirst.
• 42:21
  And you know, there's no replacing Bennett's thirst like
• 42:23
  Bennett was Bennett was special and what he did this year and
• 42:27
  he's going to be a first round NBA draft pick.
• 42:30
  So you got to go out and get somebody hopefully with a couple
• 42:32
  years of of eligibility left and you know, there I the way it's
• 42:39
  looking, they're going to add another freshman to this 2026
• 42:42
  class here soon too. So how many roster spots do you
• 42:45
  have? And that goes for Tavion Banks
• 42:48
  as well. Where does that ruling go?
• 42:50
  Is, is he back? Is he gone?
• 42:52
  What's what's going to happen? So a lot of questions right now
• 42:55
  for this roster. It's it's going to be it's going
• 42:59
  to be an interesting one to see how Ben McCollum manages it and
• 43:02
  how things go. We're going to learn a lot about
• 43:04
  Mccollum's offseason and how he operates this this this
• 43:08
  offseason because last year was different.
• 43:10
  He brings a bunch of Drake guys to retain Cooper Koch.
• 43:13
  You go get Brendan Austin. He had to fill out a whole
• 43:15
  roster this year. It's just a few moves and it'll
• 43:18
  help dictate and help, you know, determine our expectations for
• 43:22
  this roster and this team next season.
• 43:24
  Elliot Clough, 24/7 Sports, hawkeyeinsider.com Elliot, thank
• 43:28
  you for the contribution. As always, we'll talk to you
• 43:31
  down the road. Thank you, Elliot Clough.
• 43:33
  Sounds good. Thanks guys.
• 43:34
  Good to talk to you, Elliot Clough, as we check in on the
• 43:37
  Hawk. Come back, wrap up our #1 Miller
• 43:39
  and Condon talking sports with you on the Iowa Sports Radio
• 43:42
  Network. Hi, Melanie Condon, welcome
• 44:00
  back. Final couple of minutes, Our
• 44:02
  first hour of the program, we've been distracted, not distracted,
• 44:06
  distracted in a good way by the NCAA tournaments going on the
• 44:10
  WNBA. Do they have an agreement?
• 44:11
  Is it signed, sealed and delivered?
• 44:13
  It's a great question that I don't have the official answer
• 44:15
  to. It felt like was that a Friday
• 44:18
  ago that. It seemed like everything was in
• 44:21
  place. And then when we.
• 44:22
  Look at the terms of the deal. I got to think the players got
• 44:26
  what they were, what they sought and what they deserved, which
• 44:29
  was significant raise. The reason I ask is Kathy
• 44:32
  Engelbert, the commissioner of the of the WNBA show on McAfee
• 44:35
  show. I can't hear.
• 44:36
  We have no sound in the studios, one would assume.
• 44:41
  And there was there was Caitlin Clark was part of it, just
• 44:44
  showing how she had the Engelbert had to be squirming
• 44:47
  her shit seat with all the CC stuff that was up there way too
• 44:51
  much. Yeah, way too much for her
• 44:52
  liking because it's more than her, right.
• 44:55
  Anyways, I think it's done. I think we can have WNBA in May.
• 44:59
  And significant raises it sounds like.
• 45:01
  Big raises. Absolutely.
• 45:03
  Long time coming. Good stuff.
• 45:04
  Good. Summer content for us.
• 45:06
  There you go, when she's healthy.
• 45:08
  Yeah, that's for sure not the case last year.
• 45:11
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• 45:15
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