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The Line Up: The Railroad Roundhouse Round-Up Case (EP0998) · Great Detectives of Old Time Radio Volume 2|Mystery Audio Dramas

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  Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho. This
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  is your host, Adam Graham. If you have a comment, email it
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  of our listeners. Thanks so much for your support. I do want to
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  to encourage you to take a look at the articles we've got a Great Detectors
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  dot net. On Saturday, we'll I'll be posting my review of the history
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  of Harry Nile Set three, and then also on Sunday, I'll conclude with
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  a look at the most dramatically powerful episodes that we've done in the Great Detectors
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  of Old Time Radio. We will celebrate one thousand episodes with a second download
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  on Tuesday, so I'll be looking for that. Well. Now it's time
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  for today's episode of the Lineup the Railroad Roundhouse Roundup case. Ladies and gentlemen,
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  we take you a noile behind the scenes of a police headquarters in a
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  great American city where one of the cold, glaring lights will pass before us,
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  the innocent, the vagrant, the thief, the murderer. This is
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  the enough. Oh man, are cline? You're busy tonight? Yeah?
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  Stillman, boys are in the line. Half of the people in here witnesses.
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  We stillman boys are popping. Isn't they deserve a good audience. We
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  are still going to play Tuesday as far as I know. Yeah, look,
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  uh, this time, let's settle on a limit and stick to it.
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  Yeah, it starts getting out of it. Sure it doesn't. It's
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  a stupid partner of yours. Have stupid irish. He gets real courageous when
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  he wins a few bucks diamond Jim Grebb, I think he's been taken ground.
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  Kid. Let's stay away from some of those wild clings. He gets
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  a low ball with Jack's wild. What is that really? Well, it's
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  almost that he had something wild and lord oh he didn't play and he was
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  just kidding with my money. He was kidding. May I have your attention
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  be few people out there on the other side of the wild the audience.
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  Okay, thank you. My name is Greb, Sergeant Matt grev i' let
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  to spread the line up to you. Each and the suspects you will see
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  will be number. I'll call off a number, the name and charge at
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  the end of each line. When I ask for questions or identifications, call
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  out the number. If you're shore, are not too short of a suspect,
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  have him held the officers who took your name. When I assist you,
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  they are seated among you. When the prisoners leave here, they are
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  sent to the last room and dress back into their jail, for it makes
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  it quite difficult to bring them back after they leave here. The questions I
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  asked these suspects, I'm merely to get a natural tone of voice, So
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  do not pay too much attention to their answers, as they often lie.
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  Okay, bring on the line, all right, come on, keep it
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  moving right over here at the end of the stage. Now turn and face
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  but hands to your sides, look straight ahead. When I call your name
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  and numbers, step out and talk them. It's a big room, so
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  let the people in the back here you alright. Number one jewels Simpson Robbery.
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  You always wear glasses jewels? Well, no, not always. I
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  go to bed at night. I don't love the moon. Well that's real
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  bright of you. Take them up. Well, I can't see. You
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  can see pretty good the night of the twenty third. Now, well I
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  had the glasses on the all night. Take them off. Okay, don't
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  look at me, look at the audience. Well, I can't look at
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  nothing. I can't see. Preachange your can face front. Okay, where
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  do you live? The four forty six North Rivers to Wells? That a
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  house or hotel or what? Oh? What? What? Well, it's
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  supposed to be a hotel, but I just wouldn't swear to man, It's
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  been called a lot of things. Where do you work? Well, I
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  ain't him for a long Well, yeah, how do you pay your rent?
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  Who says I did? The manager of the hotel? He says you
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  paid your rent? Well not well, he says that too, but he
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  says you paid it. Well, I've been getting compensation for what when I
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  worked the years? Oh, I had lots of jobs. I made enough
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  to get a Social Security number five fifty seven. They're looking what kind of
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  a car when you're driving? When you were picked up? There's a bu
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  embessy for color. I just don't know where'd you get it? Well,
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  I thought, who'd you borrow it from? I just don't remember that your
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  memory is weaker than your eyes. Well, I guess it is. Have
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  any weapons on you? Oh? No, The arresting officer found a thirty
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  two automatic in the growth compiled. Well, it's not mine. With the
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  guy who owned the car. He must have put there. I'm clean on
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  my hat. Okay, step back? Can I put my glasses on?
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  What it's? The guy could break a rig up? He sure could not
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  step back? Oh can number too? John? Still Where do you live?
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  John? East Side? Chalk up east Side and your people hear him
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  up there? I told you when you walked down here, talk up?
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  Now, come on, do it? You scare me east Side. I
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  don't want to scare you. John, just telling the people what you do.
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  I'm not working. Did you ever sure? Sometimes when I was a
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  kid that much future in it? You're arrested with anybody? Oh? Just
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  Bob and trast Bob and Travis Stillman number three and four? Any weapons thirty
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  eight called automatic, thirty eight Smith and Lesson revolver two rifles, one single
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  shot and at thirty thirty going happened. That's a funny remark. Hold you
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  had take your hand out of your pockets. Okay, okay, now,
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  how where you live? I told you where on Eastside seventy eight, one
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  hundred and eighth street. Step back here, yes, father, that's number
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  three. Travis stillman, Come on trap, come on, come on moving
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  you look at where do you live? Same place as John? Seventy eight?
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  Next week I should Bob, don't live with us? Story married I
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  last, Bob. Okay, tell the people when you were arrested. Where
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  you arrested? In alley? In an alley? Whereon cru pack creak?
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  What were you doing in that? F A kid from me in a less
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  are? Yeah? So John isn't working anyway? Howld I I as you
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  got a call from mister Arthi Fisher, manager of the Parkway Hotel in Lexington.
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  How much I Yeah? I found my body at one of his telling
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  stuff in the trunk in the basement. Oh here, Ben, how long
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  you been here? Aw? About ten minutes? Boys a woman. Yeah,
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  just with a minor examination, I'd say she'd been dead about a week
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  in the trunk. Yeah, it looks like strangulation. It's a little hard
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  to tell right now, but I'll do one off top. See as soon
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  as we get her downtown. Okay, I'll see you down there, right
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  okay, boys cleared up. Where's your manager in his room? The names
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  Fisher. Let's go talk to him. You haven't had one in a trunk
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  a long time. Any identification? One ond of tenants. Fisher said her
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  name was Greener. He ud where's her husband? This way being locate the
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  husband three eleven. But the husband hasn't shown up. Fisher says he hasn't
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  seen him for about a week. This is it. A woman's been dead
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  about a week. You got somebody looking over three thirty eleven. Yeah,
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  cargo's up there. We talked with Fisher, so about it in cargo.
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  Oh, come in, mister Fisher. This is uh doan Guthrie? How
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  do you do it? I am mister Fisher. Sit down, sit down,
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  please it I thank you. I understand the woman was one of your
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  tenants. Yes, Uh, can I get you something? Some coffee or
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  something? No, I mean turning cold out? I put some coffee on
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  the boyl Yes, the woman is missus Green. She lives, maybe I
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  should say live in free with her husband and mister Green. Yes, he
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  hasn't been around for about a week. I'll bet he did it. Uh
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  with both of them gone for a week didn't you miss h When Green left,
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  he said he and his wife are planning a short trip. I didn't
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  think anything until I opened that trunk. Boy, that was the most awful
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  thing I've ever seen. I'll think about that the rest of my life.
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  Did the Greens arguement? Not too much? They had a couple of good
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  wood. But who don't wait my wife gets home. She never did like
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  Green told me I should get rid of them. Why she want that?
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  She didn't like him. Green told her the mind of business one day,
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  and she didn't like him after that. Not much reason though, she you
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  and me. I wish small people would tell my wife the mind of business?
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  What do you know about the Greens? Where they come from? They
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  told me Kansas City, Missouri, Missouri. Oh yeah, there's a Kansas
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  City Kansas, isn't it? No? They didn't tell me which, just
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  Kansas City. What was his first name? Joe Hurstus Louise. What day
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  you leave? Six days? About a Tuesday? I think I'll make sure,
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  but I'm pretty sure it was Tuesday? And how long have they left
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  him? About three months? What did Joe Green do? I don't know.
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  He paid his rent. I never asked him what he did. He
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  went very friendly, didn't go out much, but won a good description.
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  Oh, I can give you that. You know. I never thought i'd
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  get mixed up like this. You read about things like this, but you
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  never think you're going to get mixed up in the coffee. I think it's
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  boiling over the excuse me? Sure well you think ben? I don't know.
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  Husband, sure looks like it. It isn't. He gotta have a
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  good storing. Wow, how did go? I don't know. Somebody killed
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  a woman and stuffed her in the trunk. Yeah, I heard everybody's making
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  coffee. I was getting tired. You want something, Yeah, don't take
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  a cup. Any suspects her husband he disappeared about the same time the woman
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  was killed. Manager gave us a pretty good description, and lab boys got
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  some clear prints from the room running a check on them. Mound Hey a
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  little strong, and it probably is. I didn't measure. Got any identifications
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  on the Stillman boys. Six. Oh great, I had a little trouble
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  too. You missed a good show. Rap Stillman got sore this kid brother,
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  we nearly hit a family, fucked on the stage. You made better
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  coffee, Yeah, Bob Stillman's clothes I think maybe he's going to tell us
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  all about it. You need me, he likes you. Okay, we'll
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  be down. Can I come here? Yeah? Say, maybe you should
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  bring some of that coffee. You could give it to stillman one swallow all
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  that stuff. And you confess to anything, You're sure you get them grouchy
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  in your old age. And you'd think, after being married eleven years of
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  at least to learn how to make a good cup of coffee. Molly's neglected
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  my education. Oh no, I don't blame your false on that sweet little
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  girl. Ah, you're prejudiced because you te tell you what about the woman
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  in the trunk? How long? Dave says about a week? He's done
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  an autopsy. Now, I hope the lab comes up with something on those
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  prints. How'd you go? What far? Oh? I'm tired, Let
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  me get some sleep. Hello, Bob, Who you're tired? Eh?
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  Bo? Who's that you got? Three? Oh? I'm real tired,
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  Lieutenant. Can I rest for a while? You know? In my case,
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  Bob, I have to ask clan. I've been asking him for the
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  last hour. They won't tell me who else was an apprentice job? You
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  know who else was in on? It? Worked? On traving. John
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  just blame. But I'm Bob here and nuts. You're just trying to work
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  us. Look, Bob, six witnesses identify the three of you. For
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  Pete's sake, lay off. I don't care if six dozen people identified us.
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  I'm just tired, Bob. Yeah, yeah, what is it?
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  But it's important. I wouldn't. If you're smart and you're I can't,
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  well you better. We got a report on us, Prince from Green's room.
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  You know where Green is. Benny Kirk got an FBI kicked back on
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  him. A really interested in the way I should be. They rate Kirk
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  number one. I'm not gonna have him. Who wouldn't. What about the
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  woman's rifle? Right? They're married in Collington, Kentucky in nineteen thirty eight.
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  If she's got a minor record, got an APB a few minutes ago,
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  we wait for me. I'll be right out. Don't believe what you
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  said, Bob. We know what you were doing, and why keep fast.
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  I've got to work on this far. Aleve them, Cline, I
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  won't be able to stick around. Okay, but I look bumb. Take
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  my advice. You're gonna save yourself a lot of trouble if you yeah,
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  yeah, yeah. Do you know Benny kirkbam, I heard of him?
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  Who hasn't? Yeah, he's a number one boy in your world. He
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  just did a sloppy job of killing his wife, Kirk Yeah, kickbak.
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  He stuffed her in the trunk and skipped. So what's that got to do
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  with me? You're twenty eight, aren't you? That's right. When Kirk
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  was twenty eight, he was probably a lot like you, not the same
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  recond he's only around thirty three. Now, look what's this all? Think
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  about it? Man? Now he's killed somebody an LA eight the five.
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  He is dead inside of a year. If you catching, we will think
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  about it. Come on, man, what is it? Five card?
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  Come on? It's about time I won one. You get a load of
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  a stack. What are you gonna do when you can't see over them?
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  Man? Look around the corner. Okay, face is high, nicole here,
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  give me five boys? Five four. That's the way he wins,
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  wins? You ready for him? Come on? Come on? Throw one
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  in okay, six? Hey, pair bet them little free two bits?
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  You incline? Uh no, everybody run them three seven possible straight an come
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  on, come on, come on, you've seen before. Yeah, all
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  night. Well you're not then, what are you beefing about? I'm beefing
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  too. Yeah, two bits. Everybody getting to be a man of pride.
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  Well if they're so proud, why don't you raise me? Not stupid?
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  Come on run them everybody then? Yeah, yeah, okay, every
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  it's fair. Yeah, nine's still possible. Yeah for the King Altair that
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  was fugitive sort is in West Virginia holding Bunny Kirk. They got him and
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  they're sending him up and beyond tomorrow's train. Yeah, that's a further night
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  cap. We get the prosecute. I'm betting the half any confession, and
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  they didn't say come on, come on, come on a half a half
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  and you're proud of those two as they're worth the half. I'm on,
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  Well how about you, Dave? Oh, raise your half? That's gone,
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  Dave beat his brains out. Anybody wants some beer? Yeah how about
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  you? Yeah your money if you want anybody else? Yeah, I'll have
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  one. Let me see you're fifty and fifty more. Oh no, I
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  think you're gonna make us believe I'm not trying to make you numbheads believe anything.
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  He's bluffled. Well, well what okay if I take my time,
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  he's bluffing. I why don't you call him? Oh? You you gotta
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  call him? No? Oh yeah, thank you boys, thank you.
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  You have them. Come on, let's see your whole time. No,
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  no, no, you mustn't pack now he was bluffing. Okay, mean
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  you look at that stack all right now? This is going to be low
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  ball anything wild? Mm one eye jack? I know what's the matter with?
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  What do I do about? It's nearly three. Yeah, when he
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  comes to station naming, he's coming in the yards. No thanks, you
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  can be down this way cool. Oh that's turning cold, yeah, turning.
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  Yeah, we've been pretty lucky for this late in the year. M
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  good foot for weather. H that's right? You picking up anybody special?
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  Lenny carry m Benny. That's special? Who got him? A rookie in
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  Elkins, West Virginia does in his figure a guy like Kirk beats the best
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  of them for years and he gets careless and a rookie kitchen there? What's
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  I want to Hey? What's that? I don't know? They're sticking duck?
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  Hey? Yeah, A call Kirk the office? Who was or Kirk
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  is hurt. Kirk got away, jumped off the train about a hundred yards
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  back where the officers come. Now, where's the officer in this court?
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  Right here and be he needs a doublod I'll give him. Say, Kirk
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  jump about a hundred yards back. He was hurt too, He must have
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  had him that. But out of calls around the yards, can I do
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  something? Yeah? Go stay with the officer. You're going after Kirk?
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  Yeah, bleeding, many call it. Don't shoot I work here, don't
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  shoot it. You're looking for some guy house rouge. Some guy you're looking
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  for him, tall guy. He had two guns. I'm looking for him.
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  I'm a police officer. You better sit down. Yeah, Oh,
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  he's sure bell at me. Look at all that blot? And which way
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  did he go into the roundhouse over there? He was hurt. I just
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  ran into him and he slugged me when I asked him what he was doing.
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  Okay, you better take it easily. Know, I got to get
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  to a doc. Getting dizzy. There'll be some men long in a minute.
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  I better get to a doctor right away. I haven't found it good,
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  but never lest good. I gotta fretch. Will you take it easy?
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  I've got to get another round house. Watch it. So he's hurt
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  and he's mean, and just look he didn't shoot me. Okay, you
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  take it easy. Yeah, you better take it easy too. He's got
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  two guns. Kak, Kirk, stop it all right, give it up,
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  Kirk. I'm hunt coming and stupid talking to prink set me in the
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  before, please, Heny, I give it up. We'll get you to
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  a doctor. Give it up for what I've turned. Okay, and what
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  do you want to do. I don't want to how long I can stay
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  alive. I want you not come in a different I got all the time
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  in the world. Kirk. Hey, Kirk, come on, you're hurt,
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  Come on out now, get you to a doctor. Kirk. You
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  see Copper, you ain't got the time you think. If I don't make
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  a noise, maybe because I'm dead, then you come in man's blowing yard.
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  Head off. I can wait. I might just die on you.
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  You wait all night. I'm gonna be putty comper. I can't win,
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  but I'm gonna make you win for me, your sha head, Kirk.
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  I gotta die anyway. I do it my way if I can get Jill
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  already in a stinking captain fucking see. You're not even warm. You're gonna
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  come back to get me. You're gonna cost a lot of open brown.
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  Go on to down. You won't pick me off, Kirk. I'll be
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  enough guns in here in a minute. Go up my sock. I got
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  three three that concert, Fridy Todd, you get that? I got six
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  ball left. You're heavy, a stupard bed I got six ball. I'd
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  say it, but you already buddy. Else then kick down? Watch Where
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  is he on the other side? And I can't spot him? There's a
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  lot of ground between Yeah, and he likes it. He's hurtainly wants to
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  shoot it out. Man, keep your head down. Yeah, what is
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  it? Where is he on the other side? If you come over with
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  do it on your face? Then yeah, couldn't couldn't somebody get down that
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  side? Wow? Keep him busy. He says he's behind three feet of
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  concrete. I guess get it? Fine? Yeah, man, bring a
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  gas, got you bring a couple, Kirk, come on out with your
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  hands up. Oh, we'll guess y'all escape. He's no worrying about it.
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  Yeah, here he comes fun. Yeah, it's over there someplace.
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  It's a big area. We got six shelves and then start dropping them over
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  there. All right, well, bit I find it. You've got a
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  beat. I'll take that side from the center truck. Okay, Kirk,
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  I'll give you one more chance. Okay, ready, yeah, yeah,
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  all right, give it to him. M hm h uh. Farm is
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  too open. Yeah, it's hold him pretty well, all right, give
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  him the other form space him about ten yars a part right, yeah,
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  go ahead, h yeah, he went, Yeah, he's going. You're
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  lacking here. He comes back. I can't see him. Ye, don't
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  take me. Yeah, he's down with me. Yeah, let's get him
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  out of here. This stuff is making me sick. Hey, h ooh,
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  bitch Amy the lineup or before you passed the innocent, the vagrant,
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  the thief, the murderer. Listen again next week when we again bring you
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  the lineup. Hey, I have your retention. Read a few people up
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  there on the other side of the wire the audience room, May I have
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  your attention? Please thank you. My name is Greb, shouting Matt greb
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  alexplain the lineup field each to the suspect. You will say will be numbered.
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  I'll call off a number the name of John. If you have any
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  questions identifications, please remember the number side of the present. The line up,
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  starring Bill Johnstone as Lieutenant Ben Guthrie and Wally Mayer as Sergeant Matt Grebb,
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  is written by Blake Edwards, with music composed and conducted by Eddie Dunstetter.
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  Featured and tonight's cast were High Everback, Howard mcneer, Peter Leeds,
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  Clayton Post, Dave Young, Sidney Miller and her Butterfield. The lineup is
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  produced and directed by High Welcome Back Well. What stands out to me in
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  this episode is the performance of Wally Mayre as a sergeant Matt Grabs. Sadly,
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  this is believed to be the last original episode featuring Wally Mayer. There
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  are two other episodes, but both are marked on the Digital Deli as possible
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  rebroadcast, so this very well could have been the very last one that Wally
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  Mayer originally recorded, with the two previous ones being reruns. This episode aired
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  on on November twenty ninth, nineteen fifty one. There were a couple episodes
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  after that, the December sixth on the Bastile Bound Bad Boys case, but
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  that one we don't have in our possession, and then there was three episodes
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  that were marked by the Digital Belly as possible rebroadcast. Mayor died on December
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  twenty seventh, nineteen fifty one, a little less than a month after this
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  episode aired, and it was definitely I think it's going to be hard to
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  imagine the lineup without him because he really brought a great amount of humanity to
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  the character of Matt Gribb and really this great dynamic between him and Bill Johnstone.
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  That's just a classic. I haven't listened to a ton of the post
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  Wally Mayor episodes, but it's definitely a huge loss to the program. It
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  should be noted that December nineteen fifty one was not a good month for great
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  radio character actors, playing the sidekit character on a detective shows that same month.
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  Earlier in December, bartiny Yarborough, who played Ben Romero on Dragnet,
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  passed away, and they actually made the episode The Big Sorrow in which Ben
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  Romero died in the story I've never heard in any of the episodes I've listened
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  to Postmatt greb any acknowledgment of the character, but he actually died on the
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  day that The Big Sorrow aired. Well, here Greb. I believe in
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  a couple of these future episodes that are rebroadcast, but this is the last
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  original one, and in many ways I have to wonder, as I've listened
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  to this performance by Mayor, how much this influenced the character of Frank Smith
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  that would come on Dragnet because the character that Wally Mayre played was very different
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  than Ben Romero. Romero was, I think while he was married, he
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  was a lot more of a grumpy character, while Mayor played Matt Greb as
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  this very quirky, fun character was just a lot of different characteristics, including
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  trying to get the single lieutenant married off. So it's it's definitely as I've
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  listened to this, I can definitely see how somehow or another, if not
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  influencing Jack Webb directly, it may have influenced Ben Alexander. I mentioned this
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  possibility before, but Ben Alexander was a game show host and businessman prior to
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  taking on this responsibility, so it's fair, and he was a fan of
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  Dragnet, so it's possible he also could have listened to the lineup as well.
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  So it's definitely an interesting question as to how much you know Dragnet definitely
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  influenced the start of the lineup, but did the lineup in some way influence
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  the much better known Dragnet program. All right, well, that will do
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