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The BIGPLAY Cleveland Show 08/19/26 · BIGPLAY Cleveland

• 0:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, Ryan, if you ever heard the saying, if it looks like a duck, it walks like a duck, it sounds like a duck, it's probably a blank in duck.
• 0:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I have.
• 0:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Have you heard that?
• 0:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a good saying.
• 0:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to apply that to the Cleveland Brown's quarterback competition.
• 0:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because if it looks like it what it is, and it sounds like what it is, and you're watching what Todd Munkin is doing, it's probably a duck.
• 0:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that die, I hope he's not throwing ducks.
• 0:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be to Sean Watson.
• 0:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what this is.
• 0:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we'll recap the first preseason game.
• 0:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: People want to jump on board of what they saw.
• 0:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've got it.
• 0:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got something I got to bring up with that first preseason game.
• 0:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll get to that.
• 0:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: We got to join practice with the bills tomorrow that leads into preseason game number two for Shidorr with a giant big old caveat, which we'll get to.
• 0:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Bleach report has done lost their damn minds.
• 0:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: They have lost the, I don't know.
• 0:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I put it on just bleach your report, but this one
• 0:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: That suggested a player to join the Cleveland Browns could not be further off base, so we'll get to that coming up.
• 1:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: God.
• 1:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Joe, Dels, man.
• 1:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a bad place to leave a change up.
• 1:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's the godfather with the guards every time I'm out.
• 1:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think they try to pulling back and now the giants are one win really get that for Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't I it's weird right?
• 1:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to be that way I don't want to get back in board with the guardians relative of a close by air goal be joining us a little bit later in the show I want to get his thoughts on a question that it
• 1:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you think they checked out?
• 1:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, here's the thing, too, Matt.
• 1:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And obviously, I probably know Carlisle a bit more I've worked with him a lot.
• 1:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: If he comes in today, and that's a good part because we don't know what his stance is at all, because I talked to him a while.
• 1:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: If he is down, not saying he will be, but if he is, then you know it's all time.
• 1:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Defcon one, right?
• 1:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not five, one's the worst.
• 1:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yep, that's it.
• 1:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what we need to figure out.
• 1:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what we got to figure out with this team right now, where they're at, mindset, and I have another great question when I ask Carlos.
• 2:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: What's the best thing about the guardians right now?
• 2:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I have that answer.
• 2:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's not a good thing.
• 2:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's where getting through mid-awkes, trying to make the playoffs.
• 2:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we got plenty of guards to go.
• 2:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: We get to our fan-dool par leg.
• 2:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's some daily dinners rolling on that.
• 2:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll dip our tone to the grid and little college football action.
• 2:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: We got it all for ya, right here live.
• 2:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to Sherwood, buddy, I am.
• 2:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Matt Fawletana, he is Ryan Tyler.
• 2:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I happen to have you along.
• 2:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sipers, then I'm our great friend, smart choice, best.
• 2:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Fandle, garage.
• 2:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, a garage beer's afloat on some bachelor party last weekend for me, right?
• 2:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Ah, same thing with the wedding.
• 2:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
• 2:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: And of course, a great friend's at Physician's aim.
• 2:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Did you watch the Joe Dell home run?
• 2:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Big Physicians, the eight million sign right behind it.
• 2:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's good.
• 2:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: almost got to the scoreboard, which is pretty impressive.
• 2:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: So so happy to have everybody along with us on the show.
• 2:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to send a nice tweet out.
• 2:58
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• 2:59
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• 3:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Subscribe there and always always appreciate you joining us every day 12 to 130.
• 3:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: So this browns quarterback competition, which like
• 3:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, we'll talk about the fairness of this competition because so many people have tried to talk about how Shidorah's been done wrong.
• 3:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they haven't, like, that whole debate, the Shidorah thing, which it's gonna sound like I'm blaming him, I'm not, there's just, it is impossible to have a rational discussion with some Shidorah fans.
• 3:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's impossible, it's because he's popular, right?
• 3:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, the fairness of this competition to some people, it can't ever just be about football because it's about Chador Sanders.
• 3:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I guess you could say the same thing about the Sean Watson, if he didn't have all the off-the-field stuff, but if he didn't have that, he wouldn't be in Cleveland, like butterfly effect here, we are five years later, I'm not trying to rehash all that kind of stuff.
• 4:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: But like we sit here today, get ready to go for preseason game number two.
• 4:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay.
• 4:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're splitting it to Sean got the first game.
• 4:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Shoulder is going to get the second game.
• 4:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Call this for what it is to Sean Watson's just starting quarterback for the Clevver rounds.
• 4:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know that.
• 4:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know that.
• 4:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm assuming Todd Munkin knows that.
• 4:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: The quarterbacks know that.
• 4:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: The players know that.
• 4:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: they just won't call it until they let Shidorah play this game on Saturday, which is just such a fuss and a sham.
• 4:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: The starters are not going to play on Saturday.
• 4:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to try to keep well, you know, as long as we get our work working on Thursday, mark my words, the starters are not going to play in that game on Saturday.
• 4:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: So now you're sending shit all out there trying to again equal opportunity try to view both these quarterbacks in the same lens that is impossible to do when not the same players are out there on offense and we'll talk about Watson against the bears because yes, that was a lot of their second backups and things like that, but at least you have the starters out there.
• 5:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: You had a full compliment and most of his starters out there for at least the first drive and a line came out eventually, but still.
• 5:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: When I heard monkey and say that, I think it was on Monday.
• 5:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: When he said as long as the starters get their work and they won't play Saturday, we're done here.
• 5:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're done.
• 5:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're done.
• 5:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I thought this was done weeks ago to be honest with you.
• 5:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: and nothing at this point has steered me in any direction other than De Shawna Watson is your starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns week one against Jacksonville.
• 5:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
• 5:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the debate, I'm sure we'll be on about how much he plays or when you get short in their short play.
• 5:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Eventually, I can't, I can't get that far down the road.
• 5:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: At this point, I'm waiting for Todd Munkin just to make the decision.
• 5:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Does he need to announce it?
• 5:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, but what has been one of my biggest fears, Ryan?
• 5:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: The wasting of time of splitting the reps, trying to get guys ready to go.
• 5:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: The Sean Watson looked like he needed every rep he could get there on Saturday.
• 6:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're damn right, he did.
• 6:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: That game was far from what everybody.
• 6:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Some are not everybody.
• 6:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: That game was far from what some people want to make it out to be for the Sean Watson.
• 6:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: There were still a lot of airs, a lot of things to clean up.
• 6:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: So now that you are here, you will give Shidorah Saturday, and the Browns had better make that announcement come on to them.
• 6:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: They had better make that announcement on Monday, whether or not they play their starters in the third preseason game at this point, I'm going to say yes, because now I want Watson to go back out there with them for a couple of series.
• 6:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: you need to start zeroing in and focusing your attention.
• 6:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
• 6:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like a funnel, right?
• 6:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: When you start camping, all these things that you got to do and you got to just start getting it down to get ready to go for the regular season for specific play calls, starting to lessen the playbook.
• 6:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: You can't run every single play you got in there.
• 6:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: You got to start getting ready for this, putting plays in that to Sean likes better than Shidorr.
• 6:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: focusing in on who you're starting quarterback is.
• 7:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let the offensive line.
• 7:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: No worth the Sean's going to be in the pocket.
• 7:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: You got five and four new guys there.
• 7:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Really five.
• 7:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Five.
• 7:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, out of heaven, Jenkins, if he starts a guard was here last year to Sean didn't play.
• 7:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: That also, I'm gonna be even better.
• 7:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: To Sean Watson's never played football with any of the starting offensive linemen and two of his top receivers, he's starting running back his starting tight end.
• 7:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: He is played with one guy in Jerry Jr. and played what five games with him two years ago.
• 7:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: You need to get him in there now.
• 7:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: You need to get them in there now.
• 7:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the argument about how fair this competition was, I'm sorry, life's not fair.
• 7:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And here's the thing on Shidorah Sanders that is so hard for people to get.
• 7:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: He is a fifth round second here quarterback.
• 7:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: People think he's owed something.
• 7:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be brutally honest and a little mean right now.
• 8:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Shidorah Sanders is owed nothing.
• 8:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Nothing.
• 8:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do I want him to be the franchise quarterback for the Clevver runs?
• 8:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I would love that.
• 8:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: It'd be awesome at this point.
• 8:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: He has not done enough to warn anything.
• 8:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: His draft status has not done that either.
• 8:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's not owed anything in this competition.
• 8:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if you want to say that it was rigged up from the start to lean towards the Sean Watson, maybe it was.
• 8:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: But again, is Shidorah owed anything?
• 8:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, what's your comeback, right?
• 8:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sean Watts is not over anything, you know?
• 8:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Totally agree.
• 8:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: 230 million.
• 8:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: 230 million.
• 8:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's paid.
• 8:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: That check is clear.
• 8:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're good.
• 8:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: He did it six years ago, seven years ago at this point.
• 8:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
• 8:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
• 8:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a bad situation right now.
• 8:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: With any of the guys that you want to put out there, it's the bad that they have made.
• 8:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Here we are.
• 8:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Shidorah Sanders is not out anything and the fairness of this competition.
• 9:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
• 9:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I just want the Browns and Todd Monk in to make the best decision for the football team.
• 9:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: And for me, that's winning games.
• 9:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: The best decision overall would be actually starting Shnorsanders to say, maybe he can be it.
• 9:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you know what I mean by it.
• 9:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe he can be it.
• 9:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: The thing we've been searching for for decades, maybe he can be it.
• 9:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't see it, right?
• 9:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: So in the meantime, you go win as many games you can this year.
• 9:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: The tank conversation cannot be had right now.
• 9:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I know that there's people trying to bring that up right now.
• 9:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll get to the College Court of Axel over later, because I thought Dean Bruno had a really interesting to conversation about our chimney.
• 9:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll tell you this, right?
• 9:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Knowing that the Browns will draft a quarterback with their first pick next year, whether they trade up or whatever in the falls.
• 9:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just go, go win.
• 9:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Everything else will take care of itself.
• 9:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And no, that I think at the end of the day, there's gonna be four to five, maybe even six quarterbacks worth taking.
• 10:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ooh, Matt, you gotta take the right one.
• 10:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I understand that, but you gotta remember this too.
• 10:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Your quarterback is so much about the environment and what you create out of them.
• 10:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's the old boat, Patrick Mahomes, to be Patrick Mahomes, if he went to the jets, probably not.
• 10:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a world that Josh Rosen is an MVP candidate if he went maybe to the right situation.
• 10:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm putting too much on it, but you get what I'm saying.
• 10:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Whoever you take, whoever you decide to get, you got to bring him into the right thing.
• 10:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'll just, I'm gonna throw all that off to the side, worrying about winning football games in just what three weeks now time.
• 10:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm worried about winning football games, putting the best quarterback out there to do that.
• 10:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was the Sean Watson.
• 10:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I still think it's the Sean Watson and they need to make that announcement on Monday.
• 10:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I agree with pretty much everything you just said outside of our disagreement about who gives them the best chance to win right away, but whether you want to say it was rigged or not, I think everybody can admit it was objectively skewed it was toward the Sean watch it was whenever you be equal.
• 11:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's probably better way to put it so it was never going to be so who ever is interesting because
• 11:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody outside of us, I can see me outside of Maria in the Brown's Brass would probably say that We think they miss handled the quarterback situation.
• 11:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is that fair or no?
• 11:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is that going to fall now?
• 11:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna okay Because was this a thing where it was always going to be to Sean Watson that was going to start and you're saving face So here's the thing or was this Todd Monk in miss handling a quarterback situation?
• 11:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Your bias is going to be on who you want it because if she door was the starter everybody said they did
• 11:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't really have a big day, I don't get your saying, and I know you want you to start.
• 11:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I understand that, but you're bias in this because everybody's I love Ken Carmen because he he posts a picture of a horse and he goes up and asked him what he thought everybody's got an opinion on who they think the starter should be
• 12:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's, I was in this a long time ago, man.
• 12:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was in like this training a long time ago.
• 12:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the conversation turned to, is this a process or result-based situation?
• 12:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And like it's such a PR, like CEO read it in some book.
• 12:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is it about just getting to where you need to get or the process of getting there?
• 12:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's about the climb.
• 12:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: The climb.
• 12:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: So Miley Cyrus said.
• 12:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I bet what's she up to now?
• 12:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 12:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: But to think it like it I guess my thing is if you would have had should or Sanders be the starter don't nobody care how they got there right there be people say oh you handle it perfectly because you got the answer that I wanted right I'm it's confirmation by exactly that's a great way to it's more succinct what exactly don't talk about it's confirmation by you wanted him to get it you didn't care how they got there.
• 12:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, the handling of this, the only thing that I have not liked is when there's those moments from Todd where it seems like he doesn't have a hand a lot.
• 13:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: He made these kind of off comments about, oh, you know, we'll see when we get out there or you know, we'll figure that out before practice.
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I didn't like and I think that I have to retrain myself coming from Staphansky who was so like calculated and all that kind of stuff.
• 13:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Neither one of them say anything.
• 13:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: They just do it differently.
• 13:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's being a head coach neither one of them really say anything they just do it in different ways.
• 13:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's the only thing I didn't like as far as the handling of it.
• 13:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you gave them semi equal first team reps. You
• 13:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: What else were you gonna do?
• 13:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, the only thing would have been is if in the first game when the starters played, you would have alternated series.
• 13:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that would have been against the same guys for the bears.
• 13:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: The same brown starters would have been out there.
• 13:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: That is a difference.
• 13:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I'll ask you this, when's there ever been a clean quarterback competition?
• 14:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: When's there ever been one that you get done with it and you go, man, that went really well?
• 14:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Quarterback competitions suck.
• 14:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: You wanna know why?
• 14:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: because you don't have a quarterback.
• 14:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: So all that is about quarterbacks.
• 14:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you got two, that means you don't have one.
• 14:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'd love to be living a dream of how many other franchises with Caleb Williams standing on the sidelines, chewing sunflower seeds, Drake may get ready to go for the sea.
• 14:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'd die to have that.
• 14:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you don't.
• 14:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, the Vikings pretty quick on theirs.
• 14:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: At least now they can move forward.
• 14:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Colour Murray's our starter.
• 14:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is over.
• 14:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Quarterback competitions, always and forever will suck.
• 14:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're a pain in the rear end and you don't want to do them unless you have to.
• 14:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Browns didn't really have it.
• 14:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I take that back.
• 14:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Browns had a choice.
• 14:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: They didn't have to do this.
• 14:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: But in fairness to Shidor, I think in an element of fairness to the team, you want to see what Shidor had.
• 15:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we gotta remember this, and again, this is gonna sound so mean, and I don't want it to be mean, so I like shit or Sanders.
• 15:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sure, Sanders is plenty opportunity to prove that I'm wrong too, right?
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: If he had been due to, I believe this, I hope I, I hope this is true.
• 15:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: If he had been doing what they needed him to do, I think would be in a different spot.
• 15:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to believe whether or not at my heads in the sand or not on this, I'm gonna believe that if he would have done what they asked him to, then he would have been the starter for this team.
• 15:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: but I'll believe that that didn't happen.
• 15:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what Shawn wants.
• 15:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I certainly hope not.
• 15:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you see, you know, you were saying we have no idea.
• 15:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: The bias is hard.
• 15:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: The bias is hard for one reason or another.
• 15:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I wonder if it, I wonder if it was a bias or was it a full on,
• 15:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying I don't know what word to use, but a fool on no matter what happens, this is our decision to Sean starting in the sense of listen to Sean's body's not holding up for full season.
• 16:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'd wait just not holding up for half a season again.
• 16:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want I'm not going to wait until that water just yet.
• 16:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
• 16:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
• 16:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
• 16:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have no idea.
• 16:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I get what you're saying.
• 16:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mentioned or it just comes in.
• 16:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's almost a clean cut.
• 16:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's almost like that way.
• 16:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: You guarantee you're getting both of your quarterbacks to play this season.
• 16:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: that's got to be the only reason that I can think of to start to shine while it's an over should or that that's what I'm saying like that is it it it's sort of looking for it's like you're basically cheating it's in it's it's an unsolvable puzzle is what it is like if you gave shit or all these things listed about it you're all these things and if he did all of them they still said okay then that that that's nefarious that's not where it wasn't on the up and up
• 16:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do believe that this was on the up and up.
• 16:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I believe that it was tilted towards to Sean, but that door was still open for Shador.
• 16:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, what you're going to say if you're a Shador fan is he wasn't given equal to mine opportunities or it wasn't truthfully the same opportunity.
• 17:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you're going to view it.
• 17:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: They could make the same exact throw to the same exact receiver in the same place and you'd come up with some issue with Shador, right?
• 17:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that happened, I really don't.
• 17:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And for Todd Monkin, which we've discussed in the off season and I think it's even more true now that it was back then, that guy's got a wonderful ball games.
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's the first time head coach.
• 17:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's got two years to at some point, prove to the organization that he knows how to win consistently.
• 17:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not talking about going 12 and 5 in his first year.
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking about there's a stretch of four or five games that they win three out of five or three out of four.
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you feel good about it.
• 17:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying that it won't go flying off the rails after that, but you have to at some point prove that.
• 17:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: either this year or next year.
• 17:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's where you got to sit down and ask yourself, Todd Munkin, who gives you the better chance to do that.
• 17:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I thought I would think it would be Watson.
• 18:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's why I think we're in the situation right now.
• 18:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: When are we going to have the conversation about how they played and what if that type of style of play continues, the results will be for this Cleveland Browns team?
• 18:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And what I mean by that is to Sean Watson, you saw the Dink and Dump special.
• 18:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, look, I don't mean to cut you off.
• 18:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad you brought that up because I should have gotten this earlier.
• 18:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was not.
• 18:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was backups and I they were nice throw sure there was nothing that I got out of that and I was like Oh, man, he looks great.
• 18:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thank God.
• 18:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like you had fine protection and he's still held on a good, but sorry if anyone He held on the ball for about three seconds, which is just too long.
• 18:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and your average depth of target was still sub I believe four yards
• 18:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're not moving the ball consistently in an NFL game.
• 18:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let alone barely the preseason, especially not the regular season.
• 18:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And what I get should or it's the it's the it's the turnovers.
• 18:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And every coach hates turnovers.
• 18:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is you lose the turnover ratio.
• 18:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: You lose turnover value.
• 18:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, guess what you probably lost the game.
• 19:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: But if I don't Todd Monkin and I want to know what I have in my receivers, I want to go see Denzel boss and fall out.
• 19:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I want to go see KC, KC, KC, you can design some touches for it, get it.
• 19:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: But should door Sanders go out there, whip the ball around your new offensive pieces.
• 19:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let me see what I got now.
• 19:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: You don't want to get it.
• 19:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: But that's the whole point, maybe that goes back to why to Sean starting first.
• 19:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: You kind of ease into the season.
• 19:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: See what you got, and if all things go to hell, should or comes in, hey, let's have another James Winston thing where we're just throwing the ball 40 times a game, and see what we have in offense.
• 19:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're not going to see the pre-season.
• 19:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's the only thing that I would say to what you're bringing up is you got to remember that that is the water down you don't want to show anything in pre-season.
• 19:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: They don't care.
• 19:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Don't you want to see Dishon Watson if you're tied monkey and rip a throw in the preseason, but if he's doing that in practice and they're seeing what they see or what they need to see in practice, then that's going to give the confidence to the coaching staff to name Dishon Watson.
• 19:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: At least there are nobody sees the clips of these guys in practice on some of them look good.
• 20:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Someone look back.
• 20:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're there every day.
• 20:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're not again.
• 20:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll be there tomorrow.
• 20:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited to go tomorrow.
• 20:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Wait, like, that's the other part of this test.
• 20:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was joking about this test, right?
• 20:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Here's the test to be the starting quarter back for the Cleveland Browns, you know, a, always go see when you don't know, right?
• 20:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay, fill it up.
• 20:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Did you ever take tests on a scan, tranche or, okay, I didn't know.
• 20:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a prior generation thing, but been there before.
• 20:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Here's the test for the Cleveland Browns.
• 20:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you want to know the issue with this test?
• 20:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's multiple right answers.
• 20:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: God, I hated paragraph first, but I wrote with a pencil the other day.
• 20:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, first time done in years, I didn't know how to write.
• 20:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I have ungodly terrible handwriting.
• 20:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm embarrassed by it.
• 20:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I had to fill out some very official paperwork recently.
• 20:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, can I please type this in?
• 20:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, like sure.
• 20:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I started to fill out.
• 20:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: I have ungodly terrible handwriting.
• 21:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm embarrassed by it.
• 21:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: The thing about this quarterback test for the Browns.
• 21:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: is that there are, it's the eye of the boulder and what Todd Munkin, and I guess Travis Switzer and whoever else on the offense, right?
• 21:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's whatever they want it to be, which then again allows them to push it in a narrative in a way that they want to take it.
• 21:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know it's not as simple as this analogy.
• 21:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to make.
• 21:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 21:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know it's not this simple.
• 21:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do love good enough.
• 21:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: But doesn't it kind of also at the same time?
• 21:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe feel this simple.
• 21:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I give you two doors.
• 21:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: You open door A.
• 21:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's a hundred bucks in it.
• 21:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 21:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 21:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Could be about.
• 21:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then I open door B.
• 21:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 21:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And standing there is $10.
• 21:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I tell you this.
• 21:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Behind it, you have the chance to open a smaller door and it has the chance to be $20,000.
• 21:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Every single time you're not taking that risk that $20,000, you're just giving me that $100.
• 21:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, what do you do with $100,000 when I get up to $20,000?
• 21:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you know what I'm saying with that analogy.
• 21:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: The problem is that your door in this analogy of Shador, and your, that's the point.
• 22:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the point of a lottery.
• 22:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying, but you would take Dorby.
• 22:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Every time.
• 22:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, that's why I would start should or I've never gotten off of that.
• 22:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just I think You're telling me a franchise that's been started for the core.
• 22:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you're telling me franchise That's been start for a quarterbacks since 99 wouldn't take door B So it doesn't make you kind of think something I imagine this you take door B and $20,000 is in behind there.
• 22:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: You lose your job That's the decision but you're not keeping your top of the hundred dollars either.
• 22:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're not keeping your job with a hundred dollars either You would have a better shot
• 22:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: you'd have a better shot and it sounds like if you start should or that I'm saying Todd Monkons is going to get fired.
• 22:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not that I think no matter what happens with Todd Monkons, we've seen crazier things.
• 22:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: No matter what happens this year, you know where this is heading.
• 22:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know that this is drafting a quarterback next spring and then the work really starts of whoever you draft and bringing them in to try to be the franchise guy.
• 23:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, that's the other thing about this quarterback competition.
• 23:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying that it's not important or that I don't, you know, want the best for the team.
• 23:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I kind of doesn't matter.
• 23:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I didn't win games.
• 23:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't only matter because you're gonna be going into the draft next year to go draft a quarterback.
• 23:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and after you will scream like, oh, you want him to tank if you don't really care.
• 23:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't have to tank.
• 23:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: They don't, they don't, they don't, they don't really don't.
• 23:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I agree with you.
• 23:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a stupidest thing ever.
• 23:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they don't have to.
• 23:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Second, you trade them out.
• 23:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got that capital, guess what you don't have to tank.
• 23:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: And people forget too.
• 23:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're allowed to trade your first round pick in 2028, too.
• 23:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: So let's just, would it be, let's play this out for a second.
• 23:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Would you say that the Browns most likely will be picking in the top 16 of the draft next year, first half of the first round?
• 23:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
• 23:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Most likely, right?
• 23:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And even if they weren't still wouldn't be worried.
• 23:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's say, 14.
• 23:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: OK. You still have the Rams pick, which might be 32 for all we know.
• 24:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you still have a first round pick in 20 28 and do you not have two seconds yeah in two seconds and you can't get up to six.
• 24:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: You can't get up to five.
• 24:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Give me up to five.
• 24:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Trust me.
• 24:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's going to be five quarterbacks.
• 24:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're taking Matt got to find another team.
• 24:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's always always always always always going to be a team in the top six that already has a quarterback.
• 24:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: either they got hurt and they sucked for the year or it's like one of the young fringe guys they're not ready to jettison cam or they still think Tyler shook and do it in New Orleans and they just have a rough go over.
• 24:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: They paid Malink Willis all that money in Miami, right?
• 24:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 24:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now the thing is you have Jeremiah Smith.
• 24:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: You've got that edge kid from I think South Carolina.
• 24:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: You got some good players that maybe they would say no, no, no, we can't move off this guy.
• 24:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: But then the trickle effect of them falling down.
• 24:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: again, I would say don't worry about it, but you're on the same page on this, you don't need to.
• 24:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: You don't, and then you instill this negativity with this young team and guys that are trying to develop, you can't have.
• 25:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's actually, I don't think they will.
• 25:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I really don't like that's actually such an undirated massive part of this whole season is that ability that you don't have to luck or tank yourself into the quarterback.
• 25:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like that changes everything about this season.
• 25:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: It changes everything about the quarterback competition.
• 25:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: It makes me, that's the one big reason I think the Browns are in such a good place.
• 25:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 25:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: You get a full valuation to Todd Munkin.
• 25:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: You get a full valuation to this offense.
• 25:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited.
• 25:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would love nothing better if they won eight games.
• 25:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Todd Munkin looked good.
• 25:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: The offense looked good.
• 25:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you didn't have a winning record, but we're in Cleveland.
• 25:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then he gets to draft the quarterback next year.
• 25:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like imagine the Norse sellers in a Todd Munkin offense that works.
• 25:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Boom.
• 25:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: That makes up about scared trade right there with Denzel Boston and Casey could step she on taking steps forward with fan with judgekins with with with Fano with an offensive line that almost everybody's going to be here next year as long as they're up to the task a defense that's pretty much all paid up or young.
• 25:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Meant at kind said this I don't know if you saw this clip from her podcast and I love me and I think she's brilliant.
• 26:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: She believes the bronzers is quarterback away and she's right because they are
• 26:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
• 26:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: And do you want to know the pain in that statement?
• 26:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing you can do about it right now.
• 26:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: You couldn't come back, Matt Stark should or he could do something about it.
• 26:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, but in the relative grain scheme of it.
• 26:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: you can't do anything about it right now.
• 26:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: See, mine is well gone, try to win it.
• 26:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'd rather see wins with the development of all of these young guys so that way next season, when you get to that quarterback, you're ready to go and you're ready to find that guy.
• 26:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think a lot of people do understand that, man.
• 26:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's what makes it so frustrating because I wouldn't say they're quarterback away out to their quarterback away from being competitive.
• 26:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right, like you still need a lot of things to happen and that's all semantics, but my point being like Imagine if Shador popped off and it's a lot of ticket.
• 26:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's going to happen, but imagine it did Matt and it would take a lot for the Climbrowns not to take a quarterback in the first round next year like I get it But imagine if that's a world that happened
• 27:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Imagine you're drafting Jeremiah Smith next year.
• 27:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Imagine you're drafting an edge to pair it with first, like Stewart or something like that.
• 27:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that is your closest most feasible way to a Super Bowl is all those things working out.
• 27:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm in the boat with you.
• 27:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think anything's ever going to stop the clue about some draft paper back in the first round.
• 27:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Come back to come.
• 27:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: We just call this for what it is.
• 27:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think should do her.
• 27:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is the answer why is that so?
• 27:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: venomous to say why is this it's only venomous it's only venomous it's only people it's only venomous one because of them starting to shine I want to start your door I don't think it's going to be the answer but at least he has a 1% chance to be I shot guys the only argument you can make us will the shine you just talked about go building a winning culture if he gives you the best chance to win you got to play more for sure
• 27:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I haven't seen one piece of evidence or anything of my eyes that makes me think that's true.
• 27:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I tell you, I just, I'm sorry.
• 27:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't see it with Shador.
• 27:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love to be wrong.
• 27:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't see it.
• 27:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, then, okay, you don't see what was Shador, because yes, I don't see Mr.
• 28:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Franchise quarterback either.
• 28:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
• 28:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not talking about a seven in, you know, nine and eight quarterback.
• 28:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm in this to find somebody to get me to 12 wins a year and win the AFC North and
• 28:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I throw all the, I throw Baker away.
• 28:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want Baker either.
• 28:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what he is.
• 28:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're done here with that.
• 28:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: You have to, like, you've got to start shooting for Baker than that.
• 28:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: You've got to start setting your sights higher.
• 28:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody else, relative in the NFL, has found a franchise.
• 28:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do they all go to the playoffs?
• 28:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: No.
• 28:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay Matt, what?
• 28:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: At least they got somebody.
• 28:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: What would you say is the most important thing for the Cleveland Browns this season?
• 28:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, wins, right?
• 28:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Win, that's what you said, and I couldn't agree more.
• 28:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: So to that point, like,
• 28:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: you're not winning with the Sean how he's played football for the last four years Matt you're not winning you don't score points dinking and dumping you win we might lose 42 to 48 with if our defense isn't top 15 but at least your scoring points with Shador Sanders it's the only chance you have to win games more than to Sean Watson you are because he's throwing the ball down field in his taking chances I don't want my franchise quarterback to be that james Winston
• 29:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Should door type because that's what your door's been up to this point.
• 29:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want that.
• 29:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's not what Francis quarterback can be But at least you're scoring points and guess what?
• 29:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: How do you win ball games?
• 29:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: You score points.
• 29:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're not scoring points with the Sean Watson.
• 29:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but again
• 29:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: You don't know that and then I don't know shit or is bad right like I'm saying like that's just that that's our thought I'm saying this is it to Sean's already played three games and he is a three tonight Okay, let's go back to the game on Saturday.
• 29:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was nothing right now He could have looked terrible Which he didn't but do not sit here and try to I'm not saying you the real terrible could of he could have he had one good throw
• 29:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what, but I'm saying, two good throw.
• 29:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: There was opportunities for him to look.
• 29:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely, got off.
• 29:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: I saw the bad throw to KC like I know the boy that was chasing him was go.
• 30:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: The ball slim, ball slip down should do or he threw the pick.
• 30:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, fine.
• 30:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Whatever.
• 30:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: There was an opportunity for him to look at Trociously bad.
• 30:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't.
• 30:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: He looked fine.
• 30:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: but also I can't be sitting in a throne bouquet scene where we're fixed solved and everything's fine.
• 30:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm telling you that about Saturday from the bottom of my heart watching that game again on Sunday when I got home.
• 30:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: That game was a whole bunch of nothing.
• 30:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, but it wasn't bad, it was nothing.
• 30:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know what we're kind of going back to this whole thing being fair.
• 30:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 30:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Then if this truly, I mean, it's already confirmed that it was so heavily weighed toward a Sean to win the job, like that's not even up for debate, but again, I guess it's just sad that now we're not going to watch the Sean get that same chance with the ones.
• 30:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it was truly fair, man.
• 30:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's more of like, you just, just, to Sean Watson.
• 30:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: just maintaining.
• 30:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
• 30:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like he didn't do anything to lose it.
• 30:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: He just maintained.
• 30:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: So now you have an opportunity for Shador even with some of the backups to go out there.
• 31:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: What if he lights it up?
• 31:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he has a chance to kind of come back to the other side of it.
• 31:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you think if to.
• 31:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, because it's always going to be viewed differently.
• 31:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right, but you know, the backup.
• 31:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: So be in there.
• 31:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: If the Browns had anything worth the damn in the quarterback room, they wouldn't beat out to shots and right.
• 31:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is that kind of your thought process on that?
• 31:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay.
• 31:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's that and people have made that commentary about this competition is that if he if If Shidorah Sanders can't beat up to Sean Watson for this job, then he doesn't deserve to have the job Regardless of almost whatever Watson does which I agree Watson's been kind of nothing all can't right?
• 31:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's been a whole bunch of nothing and if Shidorah can't overpass all bunch of nothing then what are we doing here?
• 31:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: The one thing, I was going to talk about this in tomorrow's show, but I'll do it today.
• 31:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I am super interested to see what the play calling is going to be like on Saturday.
• 31:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because
• 31:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Are they going to try to let Shidorah look good?
• 31:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Or are they going to keep the reins on it?
• 32:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And again, relative understanding, all of these play calls are bottom of the barrel, not a lot of regular seasons.
• 32:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're not going to show their big motion package.
• 32:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're not going to try to unload everything to go win a preseason game.
• 32:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's not what I'm talking about.
• 32:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I wonder if they are going to call these plays to try a let's should or look good, or if it's going to kind of be like the same situation.
• 32:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
• 32:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like are they going to give him plays that he will either way.
• 32:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's say they give him that kind of same dinking dump.
• 32:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's just get you.
• 32:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's just go in.
• 32:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: It'll be, oh, well, they didn't give him a chance to shine and then vice versa.
• 32:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, then you go back to that.
• 32:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: They'll say, oh, they didn't give him a safe game plan.
• 32:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 32:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 32:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
• 32:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
• 32:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's never going to be viewed the same as it kind of goes on.
• 32:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, I don't want to touch in some things with a college quarter.
• 32:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 33:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: And Keenan Allen signed with the Colts, you know?
• 33:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Somebody's like, the catch merchant coming for Josh Downs and Alec Pierce in that offense.
• 33:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Top five route runner NFL history, by the way.
• 33:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Keenan Allen?
• 33:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 33:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, man, Keenan Allen was so he, I mean, he's a little bit older right now.
• 33:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Keenan Allen, Mike Evans.
• 33:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like better career better career my Kevin Mike Evans because injuries and play off success But he knows a beast man.
• 33:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's so good So Mike Jahari Chaiite Terry.
• 33:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know
• 33:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: He put the potential landing spots for Blaine and I, you know, I think most people know the story.
• 33:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 33:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: He tore his ACL back in 2024.
• 33:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: They expected him to return last year and he just ghost the 49ers.
• 33:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's driving past that 100 miles an hour past the stadium in Santa Clara and he's on the team because they haven't released and were traded and he's just on the did not report list.
• 34:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he's just there.
• 34:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, he had to give money back.
• 34:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's talking crazy about cheating.
• 34:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Dan, he'll try to go to the commanders and this might to Harry guy brings up the Cleveland Browns as a potential landing spot for Brandon, I.
• 34:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: You.
• 34:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: He said a rebuilding scene with a suspect wider seaver group, such as the dolphins, jets,
• 34:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: with all due respect.
• 34:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: That is one of the stupidest things I have read in quite some time, okay?
• 34:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Number one, a suspect-wide receiver group.
• 34:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Apparently he's not watched and so boss in our case, he can sit down.
• 34:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: That is off the field aside with Brandon I.U.
• 35:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: There is nobody that I want to take in receptions and reps and plays away from Denzel Boston and Casey conception.
• 35:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm happy Jerry Judy is here.
• 35:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think everybody see the clip of the, I obviously, I think it's still called building the Browns.
• 35:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like they do that, but it's kind of like a hard knock type thing and they do this by the scene stuff and they have this clip of Jerry Judy and he's, he's coaching these guys off.
• 35:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like he's helping them out.
• 35:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Number one, I still think Jerry Judy can play.
• 35:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Number two, I got three guys, and that's plenty for me right now.
• 35:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like fan and we'll get his...
• 35:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what said tillman's future is here.
• 35:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Larvenin is just your punk returner fourth option.
• 35:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see.
• 35:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got three guys that I want targets going to.
• 35:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: And two of them are rookies that I need them to work on their development.
• 35:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Get as many football strong their ways.
• 35:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: They can absolutely the hell not.
• 35:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then the other thing I'm going to say about Brandon and I, you can, this is going to be a shot, and I don't really care.
• 36:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: he seems like a child of product of Couchian hands offense.
• 36:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I might be able to put up some yards in Couchian hands offense.
• 36:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know Brandon I use a first round pick and he obviously has some skill level.
• 36:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just get wary about some of those guys that leave those types of offences because I go where you a product of that system, where you, that guy's a genius, Sean McVase a genius, Andy Reed is a genius.
• 36:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's guys getting close, Kevin O'Conno, Mike LaFlor, or Matt LaFlor, not Mike.
• 36:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: see that all this week too where they're like emliflore says j love injured and they're like is it Mike is it is it is it is it now the floor in Jordan Lovers that Michael the floor in Jeremiah love which one is it?
• 36:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's these guys in the periphery, but make no mistake.
• 36:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: The top level offensive minds in the game right now have been for a while.
• 36:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's McVay, it's Shanahan, and it's Andy Reed.
• 37:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of those guys are off the trees of these guys, anyway, you know, and all that.
• 37:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just, I, any of those guys that you want to throw money at or you think about bringing them in, that is one of my biggest fears when you get them from some of those teams.
• 37:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I just go, yeah, you had a genius.
• 37:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you had a good offensive system.
• 37:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe maybe you're good.
• 37:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, but that's my only thing.
• 37:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I there's no way there's I save this clip because I don't there's no way a God's greener at the brand and a you extraordinarily proud absolutely not no I have I really have nothing to add.
• 37:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know Ducary that makes very very little sense We're done.
• 37:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're done with it.
• 37:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know where he's gonna go until he changes his attitude like I don't know anybody that's gonna be interested in getting him.
• 37:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Why would you want to bring him in?
• 37:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you why
• 37:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: You wouldn't.
• 37:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: They'd be for the dolphins, like I said, only team.
• 37:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I said, it's a pain in the ass.
• 37:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: You want us to deal with that?
• 37:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Little dolphins, only team.
• 37:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I guess, yeah, you're probably right.
• 37:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, to the college game, we go.
• 37:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because, fuck guys, get ready to go.
• 38:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've been boner and up on my book, guys.
• 38:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have a little announcement in the future on something.
• 38:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, this is from Dane Brugler.
• 38:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And Dane is one of my favorite draft analyst people, like he is so good, and he wrote an article on the athletic talking about if the NFL draft happened today, because he put it out yesterday, if it happened today, archmaning would be the first overall pick.
• 38:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I love mock drafts, but I, not this time of the year.
• 38:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: In order to mean like, I already am.
• 38:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I, I, I, I'll dive into one.
• 38:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: What's that he do a mock draft?
• 38:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, no, he just talked about why Arch is the number one prospect, basically.
• 38:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he brings up the other names of this article is more about arch himself.
• 38:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: He talks about his pocket and move many talks about the things that I'm just because isn't negative towards it.
• 38:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's seem like a fluff piece here for arch manning because their conversations been on with arch.
• 39:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Where he was supposed to be the pick first overall pick two years ago, you know what I mean?
• 39:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's just been this thing where he's been put on this pedestal in part because of his name and the production has been good, it just hasn't been, he's not God's savior to football, which some people thought he was going to be.
• 39:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And Dane's article just gets to.
• 39:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: He can still play and you saw improvement.
• 39:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know Ohio State fans watched his beat him and he was not on telling.
• 39:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was not the same quarterback at the end of the year and that's why this year is going to be so massive for him to see him take those steps forward.
• 39:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I agree with Dane if the draft was today on potential and the work that you've seen.
• 39:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's without a doubt arch-maning as your first pick.
• 39:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: First quarterback take when she was soon will be the first pick.
• 39:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: But the tweet I sent out was this, because right after I've talked about, I want the Browns to win, we'll focus on the draft when it's time to focus on the draft.
• 39:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right now, I got three.
• 40:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got three.
• 40:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got arch.
• 40:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got Dante Moore, and I got Daryne Medsa.
• 40:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is CJ car is most likely going to be my fourth.
• 40:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: One of them.
• 40:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just give me one of them, and you can work with whatever you get.
• 40:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Arch and Dante a step up for those other two.
• 40:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: No disrespect to Julian Stain.
• 40:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what it's going to translate to the NFL.
• 40:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Messed to Maker and John Matier and oh god who's the other kid I'm missing.
• 40:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a ton dude.
• 40:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jane my oven.
• 40:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Nico I am a Leava.
• 40:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah my god the Trinidad Chamberless.
• 40:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want Chamblus.
• 40:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh see I think he's good.
• 40:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well the Norris.
• 40:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love Louis.
• 40:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: The good news is there's going to be options.
• 40:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is not going to be your Mendoza draft.
• 40:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is you mean you're a camor draft.
• 40:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's one, maybe two that go.
• 40:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're going to have that Bonyx Drake May Caleb Williams draft.
• 40:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Good.
• 40:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Good.
• 40:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Get one and we'll be fine and we'll figure it out.
• 41:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: But again, that's for down the road.
• 41:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: But it's still as this season goes on.
• 41:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're trying to browns fans do anyway, because a lot of us are Ohio State fans.
• 41:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll watch you'll see arch in week two.
• 41:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to just be drunk on college football, which would be here before you know it.
• 41:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Those are the guys that I have.
• 41:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: The three that I'm most.
• 41:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Keeping an eye on car will be close and then we'll kind of again, it'll be months away from now.
• 41:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I just I read that article from Dean, just again, even at this point, we know we talked about biases within the Browns quarterback situation.
• 41:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're going to have a bias on the college guys.
• 41:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's somebody you like more than anybody right and who you like more than anybody go, Lenore, Lenore,
• 41:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, like, I think there's going to be five quarterbacks taking the top 10 next year.
• 41:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 41:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Dante, Arch, CJ, Carl, Alonores.
• 41:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
• 41:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think Sam will be a top pick.
• 41:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't.
• 41:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think I'll get a little bit exposed.
• 41:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And my thing is what gets me.
• 41:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: like if one of like if Sam Levitt underlain so during months of coming months and we'll be if Sam Levitt underlain kiffin just turns into a polished well-old machine he could go top 10 like there's so many quarterback well the other we say every year you know how I feel about that I just hate that but like this year like
• 42:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's unreal man.
• 42:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: The other thing is we can't discount the NIL stuff because there's going to be a guy and some of these guys are out of eligibility.
• 42:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: So like they got to go.
• 42:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: But there could be that world in one of these guys that you thought was sure fire lock.
• 42:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like Julian saying everybody's like, I Julian saying it's come, you know, going to the NFL course course course course course.
• 42:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: And what's so interesting is there's so many different prototypes of quarterbacks in this year's draft too, which I think makes it even more interesting.
• 42:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: It is, but like, and this is not
• 42:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a Dylan Gabriel thing.
• 42:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know where I stand the first really drafting quarterback is they gotta have six feet or more Well, the only I don't know if there's a string or a single I think he's might be just a shade over six foot I'm not sure there's any under six foot There's no Dylan Gabriel.
• 43:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, but I want I like more.
• 43:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'd like manning.
• 43:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'd like to six four type Well, Norris is there.
• 43:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is a beast jaded my avas like six four.
• 43:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's I got to have that.
• 43:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got to have that
• 43:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then again, I would lean towards the pocket pass.
• 43:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: CJ cars like six.
• 43:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, CJ car story, six, two minutes.
• 43:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's fine.
• 43:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's fine.
• 43:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: The pocket passing.
• 43:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's where I get drunk on arch.
• 43:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: And there is just something about Dante more man.
• 43:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can't quit him.
• 43:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Pocket passing.
• 43:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Dante more and Jerry and Mesa are probably too fast.
• 43:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Probably.
• 43:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like you watch Dante more animals.
• 43:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: The immobilized state.
• 43:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not rooting for the Oregon ducks.
• 43:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Man does his throws get me into ox someone saying jay to my ava will win the high spin if you listen if you see when's the big ten Which just I'll even still after years sounds very strange.
• 43:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm with you.
• 43:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like y'all the best rodents.
• 43:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Best defense.
• 43:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, link right side
• 43:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Day in my other can spend the ball dude and they had they had a really good recruiting class last year They got another really were good recruiting class next year I know it's always been free beer tomorrow when it comes with Lincoln Riley, but like yes I do think USC's gonna be much better.
• 44:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think Warren's gonna be really good You know we'll get into college football more so we start to turn the turn the page here, but yeah, there's no shock that a lot of those
• 44:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: same teams are what they all have good quarterbacks like that's welcome to the game right but for the interest of the browns like the heisman thing almost doesn't matter because it there's good highs you know Joe Burrell won the heisman I get it but sometimes they're not the best like well what's is not just got cut from the ravens it's sure kid what's it's like a pile of them yeah he's a finalist right like you can't make an offseason roster
• 44:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, my other sure I'll listen to him very much, but for right now for me and put it on putting on the record right now before single snap of preseason football before single snap of regular season I meant to say college football I'm going arch.
• 45:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Dante.
• 45:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Men's a CJ car.
• 45:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's get for you on for all right.
• 45:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going Dante.
• 45:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, arch.
• 45:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then which honest, I'm a go above arch, but linores.
• 45:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, CJ car.
• 45:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 45:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
• 45:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, man, there's going to be options.
• 45:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be a lot of fun.
• 45:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see how it goes.
• 45:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
• 45:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Carl's going to stop by.
• 45:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, sir.
• 45:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: We got to talk about this Guardians team because they hurt my brain.
• 45:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't have a very big one and they just hurt it.
• 45:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm paying to watch them play baseball right now, which just sucks.
• 45:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, talk to him.
• 45:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see what they got left in the tank.
• 45:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll get his thoughts on the new and not even new anymore, but like really where would you be without a guy like Joe dealt at this point?
• 45:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Foster Griffin got to start in the Whitney yesterday, and what's up with Parker Messickman?
• 45:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: He goes tonight.
• 45:45
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• 46:38
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• 46:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: You can always catch Carlos on any of our multiple shows 12 to 130 every day on the big play network Carlos.
• 46:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's our best card.
• 46:49
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• 46:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I love baseball.
• 46:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was my first love and I know like anything.
• 46:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a long season.
• 46:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of ups and downs Carlos this team just tears my heart out some nights because I see this stretch where I'm like That's it.
• 47:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're done.
• 47:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're fried.
• 47:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: They got nothing left and then I watched him explode last night And it's not like one game can erase the six prior that didn't go our way Yes, but I want him to be in it.
• 47:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Carlos, does it you're around the team a lot you play the game for such a long time
• 47:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Does this team still have it in them to make it?
• 47:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think if you're not going to believe first of all It's nice for me to be with you today first time.
• 47:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: First time we are not having a car.
• 47:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was we right.
• 47:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: I believe you know why
• 47:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: we have the same record that we have last year.
• 47:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Juno gonna pick me that.
• 47:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: And if we didn't last year, I think we do it.
• 47:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: We can do it this year.
• 47:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think we have a better team.
• 47:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I was talking yesterday.
• 47:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do the radio for the, for the, for the Wally and the Spanish radio.
• 47:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: That.
• 47:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Our office did a great job, bringing it right on the heater.
• 47:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: They got 11 RBIs, since he got here.
• 48:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: We bring low, there's being 80, 286, we NIRBIs.
• 48:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's 20 RBIs right there.
• 48:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we bring him now.
• 48:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: that he's being helping us, getting on base, getting bases, stuff right up.
• 48:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's three plus.
• 48:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's not him.
• 48:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: The only team right now, just said, I was talking to my show.
• 48:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I have a show every night.
• 48:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: They only think they've been positive with the players that they bring in.
• 48:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And Diego Padres, Robbie Ray, the pitcher, which is all right.
• 48:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm nice.
• 48:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's the only team.
• 48:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: They all the other teams.
• 48:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Nobody, Paralta, no good.
• 48:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Escrubar, Escrubar, all one two, everybody, we, but we have the players, but the other guys need to step up.
• 48:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm happy.
• 48:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: The Jose Ramirez, the last three games he's being unbelievable.
• 48:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't create his own thing right now, yesterday got three hits, and the other guys that I, that I need to get them back.
• 48:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: is Rockio and Bassana.
• 48:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: 16, 16, 16 to the last 15 games.
• 49:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just to get me to step up because Clang is doing a great job.
• 49:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Funds have been great.
• 49:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I think we are going to arrive in the direction right now.
• 49:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then we bring a win again yesterday, you know, Griffin.
• 49:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 49:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: So 21 right now, if you put it, you know, like, together, it's been a positive trade for us.
• 49:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I think we still have the teams, you know, to do it in here.
• 49:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if we can feel it first because they're why suck, they're playing unbelievable.
• 49:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 49:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 49:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's the other things you call us like I just looked at the wild card standings and I, you know, Boston went on that same win streak.
• 49:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're them in the Yankees or whoever wins the East, they're going to be won.
• 49:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: three teams are coming out of these.
• 49:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: We know the three and the other two be the wild card.
• 49:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I sit there and what we're a half game back But there's two teams tied and then we're tied when there seems to be basically four teams coming down to one spot for the wild card I'd you know, I'd loved to win the division.
• 49:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm kind of with you.
• 49:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think we're it's too far out there But let me ask you this Carlos like with the stretch that the guardians have been on not even just since the all-star break But maybe since the trade deadline where you're right you've had guys come in, but it didn't quite click right away
• 50:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: can at one night like last night when they just they just just demolish the giants and Joe Adele had a great game like your point.
• 50:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's lost with what Adele did.
• 50:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Foster Griffin put a pitch to great game yesterday.
• 50:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Can one game almost to erase like a week's worth of bad baseball.
• 50:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can change everything and I think everything you start, you know, getting on base language defense.
• 50:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: because it's not just the heating, it's being, you know, we, we, we, we, we haven't put together a good game.
• 50:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've been good defense running the bases the right way.
• 50:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, a heating, you know, and when we got a man in scoring positions, that's, that's, that's, that's the right way.
• 50:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: All the runners score position cards.
• 50:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's being the worst pressure on those guys when they go up there and they know that the teams just struggling with guys and, and scoring position.
• 50:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: It is it is very young my friends.
• 51:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: We are young, you know, but I want them to see how low He's with man and bass.
• 51:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: How are they all look for pitches to you know to get in there Even even Jose Ramirez to get that and right now It is like we are hitting but we lost the louder he's been a best hitter He's been our baby beat this year, so we lost in we don't know if we're gonna come back right away If I'm if I'm dead, Williams if we win today
• 51:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I resting because that's the hand screen and now we we losing it's going to be tough for us So I don't want to lose the louder I want to keep it in there, but I know I am with you I want to gain every day.
• 51:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm in there every day and every time I say well We're gonna do it this year, but I still believe I still believe because we are pitching When you have pitching you have a opportunity and that's the key right there
• 51:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: We have a great fishing stop.
• 51:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: We live in the league in the American League in Swakeout.
• 51:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to get a massive win today.
• 51:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be our third feature over 10 wins this year.
• 52:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: That being really, it's going to be absolutely awesome.
• 52:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Our next guy, they want to win that side.
• 52:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're not going to make sure right now.
• 52:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: We got Kobe Clover and we got Bieber.
• 52:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Bieber.
• 52:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's going to be Gabby Williams.
• 52:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody talk about him, everybody in the league say he's a tough guy that I know he got to a tough guy in his heart.
• 52:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know why?
• 52:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because our hitting is being so bad.
• 52:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: The boom pressure in our business that they need to be perfect.
• 52:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's hard to be like that.
• 52:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got you.
• 52:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right, what do I call it?
• 52:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I call it getting Cory Clubbert.
• 52:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I say, Clubbert, where you go out there, you give up two runs and you still lose the game, right?
• 52:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like how many times that we see that with Cory Clubbert?
• 52:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and you're right cause cause then guys aren't pitching free because when you don't pitch free that means what you're not pitching aggressive Either because you're afraid when you're not aggressive Yeah, you're trying to be too finite.
• 52:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're trying to paint quarters there.
• 52:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's when you make mistakes, and that's when you can't really get your best stuff Which I do agree with Gavin.
• 52:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean that fast balls just so electric
• 53:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: And listen, they're still majorly hitters.
• 53:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're gonna catch up to it from time to time.
• 53:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: But it's just so good.
• 53:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I do think about that with number one, knock on wood.
• 53:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: The fact that it's been the same five starters.
• 53:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's slates in the bullpen now, but you have this, everybody's been going out.
• 53:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: You had some injuries in the bullpen, but you're relatively healthy.
• 53:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you've got this staff that's been doing amazing and just the consistency that they've been able to be out there every fifth day and get their start and go.
• 53:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: And in August, our booping went kind of down a little bit.
• 53:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like something, we get it better.
• 53:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: We get it better.
• 53:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's been the walks that we have in the last few days.
• 53:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we need to cook that down.
• 53:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I know they've been going, you know, they're pitching a little bit more.
• 53:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the thing is, when you go to the player for three years in a row, our booping going to get tired.
• 53:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 53:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: They have a lot of innings in there, but I have to get credit to Car Willis.
• 53:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is the best.
• 53:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: We have the best pitching coaching the game.
• 53:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I want you to know that if we make it to the play of every year, it's because our pitching, our pitching that come from our organization.
• 54:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: We might bring one or two guys from outside, but it's been our organization that the bell of those kind of pieces stop right up and I have to tip my head, you know, to the front office because they're doing a great job on that.
• 54:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: And now we are bringing a guy like the louder.
• 54:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is the first time we have an outfield.
• 54:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: They usually look like a Michael Bradley, and look like a great newsize more.
• 54:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know that we haven't get a guy like that.
• 54:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Money that I made an out of the bell.
• 54:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll never get there and those stories for another day with Carlos that there's a whole mother conversation about another day because it's so funny you see it because Ryan and I were doing shows months ago and I said I go number one this line up.
• 54:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like this is the best I felt about a lineup in years with this team and then to your point specifically, which I think is so great.
• 54:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: That outfield is one of the best collection of three where for a long time in this team, it was Carlos Santana at first and Jose at third and Lindor at sure it was the infield that kind of carried it and you piece together the outfield.
• 55:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is the first time I'm with you that almost every day.
• 55:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know guys need days off and you got to rotate some guys in there But for the most part, I know the three guys I want in that outfield and they're all at points of the season producing If you could just get that all together, like you said, well, you know, a lot of this injury will see But this is the best lineup I've felt in years.
• 55:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: This certainly the best outfield that I have felt in a long time with this team Right.
• 55:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: These are the first time that we have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 guys.
• 55:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: We want the 10 homers
• 55:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: We don't have that before, we used to be three, the last four years, three years, three guys, maybe over 10 years, 10, 10 home or something like that.
• 55:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, we keep improving, I think Martinez, we've been doing a great job, we got the loudest, that's got a lot of people, crazy guys, you know, a hookings.
• 55:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: But hookings is a guy that he's been a close to, when you put together the homers and the doubles.
• 55:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's almost almost 25 extra basic right there.
• 56:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he, you know, he helped us out.
• 56:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he even had a little bit more homers, but that he fence the fence here.
• 56:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Every time he had a land that he defends right that.
• 56:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he don't have a homer.
• 56:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I, I, I, what we have, we just need to get Basana going.
• 56:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: We need to get Basana kind of law.
• 56:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because remember when he started hitting, he helped us a lot.
• 56:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and I think too Carlos about the line of moving where I'm not blaming Stephen vote.
• 56:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: You had number one injuries So you had to kind of make do with what you got, but I think moving guys around where I love to Bazana up at the upper part of the line up now But right now to be right.
• 56:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's got to be quiet
• 56:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: And like Bazana, but I think about like man he made that six hole like what he could do to that middle line same thing with rokyo right like if Brian rokyo There was a stat I saw first half I think it was Might have been OPS it might have been F4 I can't remember
• 56:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: and the second half and so fortunately a bad one for Brian Rokio like Carlos there's only two guys in the league that fell harder than he did just from the first half to the second half but it's like again if he could just find that to contribute as the seven hitter contribute as the the eight hitter
• 57:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I think that could change so many things.
• 57:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was the best number, nine years in baseball right now.
• 57:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: In the last 15 games, just one RBI is one homer.
• 57:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: We need his bad.
• 57:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: We need his, you know, but but something that I, that I want from him is, you know, the difference.
• 57:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: The difference is very important, right in the middle, right there, Al-Bassana, you know, to hell everybody.
• 57:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think we are going to a right direction.
• 57:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think, you know, we play better.
• 57:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Even at the beginning, I was kind of like,
• 57:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Man, why we bring this guy Bailey to our team.
• 57:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, he's he probably very.
• 57:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, we want Homer's one 12 something I thought he was in his number of disco right me bromine a lot.
• 57:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: He started knowing our PC staff tool.
• 57:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it'd be probably HHS being unbelievable.
• 57:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah So career here for him, you know, it caused to I think travel or see me a Patrick Bailey
• 58:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: he did the deadline because he felt good about moving on from bow and co-zar because you felt like hey, Patrick Bailey's gonna be here for a while.
• 58:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: They didn't trade Cooper angle, which is another positive for the organization.
• 58:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I felt like all their moves at the deadline were because Patrick Bailey was so good in that time.
• 58:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right now, the key, we have to ring and I hope that's September that we come bring two guys.
• 58:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know why.
• 58:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Ralphie.
• 58:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand.
• 58:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand baseball right now or the move of the changes they've been doing because nobody can control my team.
• 58:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 58:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm the one that paid for my team.
• 58:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 58:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: And if I want to bring four relievers, I've been for relievers to help our team.
• 58:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, to go through there.
• 58:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why they got to control and he's like an in the roster.
• 58:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you have to have 13 pictures.
• 58:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 58:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 58:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why if I want to have 20 pictures and five pleasure series, I love whatever I want because this is my money.
• 58:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why the man you live want to control everything.
• 59:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
• 59:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
• 59:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's something that I get pissed off about it because I I pay for my team.
• 59:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Don't pay for my team.
• 59:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 59:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Why you want to control.
• 59:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, Terry loved doing that.
• 59:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: He loved carrying extra relievers, right?
• 59:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was his game.
• 59:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what he did.
• 59:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And especially when you have guys and play multiple positions off the bench, like what's going on?
• 59:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Last thing I wanted to get to, the Carlos, because, you know, we want to get to see him for Cisco last thing, which is great.
• 59:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: We still got two left with them.
• 59:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: But then we're off to Colorado.
• 59:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're off to LA as a player.
• 59:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: He said, I died.
• 59:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 59:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Carl, can can Steven vote go into that clubhouse and say, guys,
• 59:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: We need to rip off six straight here.
• 59:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like there is no excuse that we should lose a single game.
• 59:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Really over, again, three, three game series.
• 59:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: You should sweep the giants.
• 59:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: You should sweep the Rockies, you should sweep the angels.
• 59:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we might be talking about a whole different ball game this day next Wednesday.
• 59:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to mention it now, God, because in baseball.
• 59:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: You got two eyes and you have two legs and you have a big heart.
• 1:00:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's the one we need to have big heart right there.
• 1:00:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I want to I don't want to say that we need to win every day.
• 1:00:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 1:00:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 1:00:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: We need to win series.
• 1:00:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:00:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: We will say we're going to be okay.
• 1:00:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I saw something.
• 1:00:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I want to have like five or six days in a row.
• 1:00:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's start in row.
• 1:00:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: We need to know what you want to say.
• 1:00:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:00:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:00:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:00:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because like again last night, it felt like there was like a collective style.
• 1:00:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I could feel you feel the guys that were probably just like
• 1:00:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: We still know how to play this game like we can still do this, you know, and I know the giants aren't very good either, but like that's the thing it's still a win It's still a win like just get that like some momentum just get the guys back to feeling it
• 1:00:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, killing everybody really good right now they're having fun and that's what we need to do and I Something that I know the stupid bucket this guy is amazing.
• 1:00:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: We all the things that we've been Going through the last few years, you know keeping everybody focus and stuff like that And I have to say and I listen to every after the game why he say the way he talk about the players That's very important to you know to motivate these guys and you know He and I know that he always have a meeting with the players inside the clubhouse
• 1:01:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: He don't even let anybody know why he got to the players but I have to say something.
• 1:01:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think we have the team We have the pitching that that's very important and that's been the key for our teams for the last few years So let's go again Let's get in a row.
• 1:01:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's win couple games in a row and let's go back
• 1:01:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's do it cost really appreciate you coming in so great to be with it so raffle We said hi have a great call tonight for the game bringing on home the great Carlos buyer Got catch them on all of his shows catching me on big play and of course Listen to Spanish broadcast every night with him raffle.
• 1:01:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
• 1:01:47
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• 1:02:45
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• 1:02:48
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• 1:02:54
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• 1:02:54
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• 1:02:55
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• 1:03:04
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• 1:03:07
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• 1:03:08
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• 1:03:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, what'd you do for us?
• 1:03:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, first off, we're not losing to the tugboat, man.
• 1:03:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's just not happening.
• 1:03:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, I loved Matt Wilkinson when he was here.
• 1:03:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love the tugboat thing.
• 1:03:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're winning, by the way, Guardians.
• 1:03:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if you're new to the betting and we should probably do this better, we'll do it when we get into that NFL.
• 1:03:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
• 1:03:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's gonna be, but it's gonna be dirty season.
• 1:03:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's dirty season, man.
• 1:03:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's my girlfriend won't let me see you.
• 1:03:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: God, I can't wait for it to be back.
• 1:03:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man, it'll be here soon.
• 1:03:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: In the meantime, I'd like to get a little bankroll going here if you don't mind.
• 1:03:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: So the Guardians, they were minus 200 favorites on the money line.
• 1:03:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: That means that if you bet, I'll keep it in our terms here.
• 1:03:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: $2, you only win a dollar.
• 1:03:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: You'd win three.
• 1:04:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Folks in baseball, you don't see minus 200 all that much.
• 1:04:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: That tells you that the Guardians are massive favorites today with Parker Messy versus Matt Wilkins and the other thing you got to remember to they know tub boat like they know everything about him so like by the way what missed management on the giants part why would you start him against the guardians
• 1:04:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: maybe reverse cycle.
• 1:04:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 1:04:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 1:04:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Stick it to you.
• 1:04:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe motivation.
• 1:04:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Listen, I mean, it's not.
• 1:04:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, it's totally debut.
• 1:04:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm sure his family's going to be here and it's going to be, it's going to be awesome.
• 1:04:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm so excited.
• 1:04:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm happy for him.
• 1:04:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and to go back to that trade, by the way, like how amazing his Patrick Bailey been.
• 1:04:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know,
• 1:04:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just going to go with what Justin, Justin, a lot of from Lockdown guards.
• 1:04:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, we had a, I'm about to get him on soon.
• 1:04:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I will defer to Justin on almost anything baseball, right?
• 1:05:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like he knows the prospects like no one else.
• 1:05:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: He covers the game as well as anybody.
• 1:05:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I remember him and I were talking about the math.
• 1:05:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to say, and it's just an overall kind of thought of some people at really file the prospects.
• 1:05:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're worried about Matt Wilkinson is it's not gonna translate to the big leagues.
• 1:05:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And what that means is, yeah, he's got stuff to blow away Triple A guy.
• 1:05:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're not even Triple A like, single A and double A and all that.
• 1:05:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like Johnny Menzo.
• 1:05:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: They don't write, like he'd be good not in the top tier league.
• 1:05:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see, I got nothing against Matt Wilkinson, except for tonight.
• 1:05:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we will very much take the Guardians minus a run and a half tonight.
• 1:05:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: The other sneaky play that I do like for tonight is the over.
• 1:05:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do feel like Guardians are maybe loosening up a little bit.
• 1:05:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Here's the thing about Parker Messick though for tonight too.
• 1:05:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to take him for six plus strikeouts because number one, dude, again, I love this on Fandle.
• 1:05:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I go right to the Parker Messick thing and it tells me in his last five games he's averaging six point four strikeouts per game.
• 1:05:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Six eight and six overs last three starts six before I'll put it this way.
• 1:06:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: He has not had a outing that he has not recorded at least six straightouts since before the all starbreak.
• 1:06:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: So there you go.
• 1:06:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: He said five straight starts a six plus.
• 1:06:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: for us on that one, so we'll take it.
• 1:06:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, the tough thing is that we've lost two out of the last, like four starts that he said the team overall has lost.
• 1:06:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: He hasn't been getting real deep into some of these games.
• 1:06:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, he lost to the Tigers and only went five and two thirds.
• 1:06:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna take him for six tonight.
• 1:06:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a fair number.
• 1:06:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was like minus two on its whole par lead.
• 1:06:32
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• 1:06:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lefty on the hill, and that's all he does is mash.
• 1:06:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Two plus hits runs RBS, I love it.
• 1:06:41
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Double, we're good.
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• 1:06:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're good.
• 1:06:48
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• 1:08:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Are you scoreboard watching all for the guards?
• 1:08:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I am.
• 1:08:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Pirates are up one nothing right now.
• 1:08:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is it the tight?
• 1:08:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, the tigers, because then the twins, they start in like an hour.
• 1:09:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Don't think it's a little early to be doing that.
• 1:09:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, I'll take anything I can get, man.
• 1:09:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I need it.
• 1:09:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, to the point where I have with Carlos, I want to believe in this team.
• 1:09:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do, and I need more than anything.
• 1:09:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I need them to believe that they're still in it.
• 1:09:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: And like, it's crazy as it is.
• 1:09:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I know it's what for.
• 1:09:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I listen, I don't get back into this.
• 1:09:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I could still see a world wire go through the wild card, man.
• 1:09:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just, I don't want that.
• 1:09:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't like that.
• 1:09:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't like the wild card.
• 1:09:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's too many teams.
• 1:09:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's literally 14 right now for one spot.
• 1:09:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Here's your wild card.
• 1:09:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Here's your wild card.
• 1:09:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: So the Yankees have an eight and a half game lead in the wild card.
• 1:09:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Boston is six.
• 1:09:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's got three teams.
• 1:09:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Texas as of yesterday.
• 1:09:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: The West were tied with Minnesota.
• 1:09:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: The West isn't very good either.
• 1:09:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Texas Minnesota and the blue jays are a game or a half game back then us the orials and the tigers are all one game back you are in a 16 race with one spot in the wild car the way we we we we we the Rangers have it
• 1:10:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: The twins and blue jays are a half game back.
• 1:10:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Us, the Orioles and the Tigers are just a game back.
• 1:10:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: So there's three, yeah, okay.
• 1:10:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because knowing that the Red Sox and the Eighth, he's not catching them.
• 1:10:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're eight and a half up and six up.
• 1:10:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right, they're gone.
• 1:10:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right, they're gone.
• 1:10:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you got six teams for one spot?
• 1:10:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I would, at the Cleveland Guardians over all of those teams.
• 1:10:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: The only thing is the Rangers are the only team from the West.
• 1:10:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: You got two East, you got three central.
• 1:10:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you can victimize one another and cannibalize this is really the word I meant to say there right the mariners are three back.
• 1:10:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they're getting back into it.
• 1:10:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: So You know, I just don't want to mess with a wild card.
• 1:10:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'd be nice.
• 1:10:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like to believe it back in the way it's like
• 1:10:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's like, I give her Carlos to sing and that's why I wanted to ask him about this stretch coming up, bro, you cannot, I'll give you one game, you got, okay, you won yesterday, so you got nine games against the Giants, Rockies and Angels, that better be seven and two at damn well, better be eight and one, it better be, like especially the Rockies, the only thing that I hate, why does this happen to us, then we got to play tomorrow.
• 1:11:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then go to Colorado, because we had the off day on Monday.
• 1:11:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Why couldn't we play it Monday Tuesday Wednesday and had the Thursday off day to go off to the West Coast.
• 1:11:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe the course field will get them hit in some homework.
• 1:11:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: All crap is what it is.
• 1:11:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: something.
• 1:11:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 1:11:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: We need it.
• 1:11:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: You cannot.
• 1:11:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Again, nine games already one one.
• 1:11:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I need seven and two.
• 1:11:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I need eight one.
• 1:11:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what you've got to have over this stretch.
• 1:11:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see how it goes.
• 1:11:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: A big story related to baseball and basketball is this Mark Walter situation.
• 1:11:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's hard not to follow, but for those that don't know, Mark Walter is an Uber Uber billionaire.
• 1:12:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he bought the Dodgers.
• 1:12:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ah, when did he buy the Dodgers?
• 1:12:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Could not tell you.
• 1:12:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, so he just owns the Dodgers.
• 1:12:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the story was this he, he, he, he, he, he, he bought, he bought the Lakers just 14 months ago.
• 1:12:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: And like, as a soccer team, too, yeah.
• 1:12:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's got, uh, Walter owns 27% in 2012.
• 1:12:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: You'll see or something?
• 1:12:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Something like that.
• 1:12:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, he's owned the Dodgers for a while.
• 1:12:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: He bought the Lakers just 14 months ago and had to sell them again.
• 1:12:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.
• 1:12:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it sounds like he's going to have to sell the Dodgers because he is being investigated.
• 1:12:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: For as far as I read this basically what it was, he owned insurance companies and we're writing loans.
• 1:12:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: that had nothing behind them to his own companies to then cover stuff.
• 1:13:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Basically, on paper, the Dodgers are bankrupt.
• 1:13:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
• 1:13:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he is, and he, he, he, oh, I saw something.
• 1:13:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's going to get investigated for $16 billion of potentially fraudulent money that he then has to pay back.
• 1:13:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Here's my first question.
• 1:13:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: How in the hell did the NBA allow him to buy the Lakers?
• 1:13:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: A year ago.
• 1:13:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just a little mad.
• 1:13:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not like the DOJ was after me go.
• 1:13:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're telling me there wasn't anybody sniffing around going something's not right here.
• 1:13:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: then I was reading something about, you know, everybody talks about the Dodgers and like, oh, you could spend like the Dodgers and how they're deal with, I think it's Comcast, whatever their TV deal is, somebody did some digging into that and found out they're a billion dollars in debt.
• 1:13:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Over this deal, like it's basically, it's all fake.
• 1:13:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: All this money for the Dodgers, it's not real.
• 1:13:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: You wonder why they deferred all that money, maybe.
• 1:14:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's people say so he's going to have to liquidate all this stuff to cover up his ass for the 16 million that he was fraudulently so who pays the contracts the players.
• 1:14:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know again, this is I would maybe hope a world I could know one day.
• 1:14:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how this call works like.
• 1:14:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do know this right when somebody I remember going through this with the hazards right when they bought the Browns and there's still early in my career, but it was really interesting Like Ryan, you and I just can't show up and go, wait, I got nobody has billions of, well, I'm not saying nobody, but like corporations and billions of cash, but a lot of it's like stock or real estate or all of a sudden So it's not just you show up and I've got the money to buy it
• 1:14:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: First off, it's very rarely a single transaction.
• 1:14:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I remember there was a day that the hasms made their final payment to the learner family.
• 1:14:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: It happened like 2016 or something like that.
• 1:14:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: They had to pay the other bit of money that they owed them.
• 1:14:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 1:14:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: So then beyond that, when you sign up, you are required to have creditors that have your back.
• 1:15:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, if you default, if you become a lunatic and you lose all your money, they need somebody else that will step in to pay the money for, like you said, stadiums, contracts, all that are the kind of stuff.
• 1:15:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Who was crediting this guy?
• 1:15:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Unless it was his own fake companies doing I again a world I don't I don't mean spread misinformation on this this stuff This is nuts Again for watching what the Dodgers have done and there are people now Ryan saying that what the Dodgers have done is Worst and what the Astros were doing to cheat Because they're writing again from just what I read here.
• 1:15:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like they're writing fraudulent checks And they're paying for all these guys to come here and play now when they don't actually have any of it to cover it
• 1:15:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, bro, this is nuts.
• 1:15:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, this is so crazy.
• 1:15:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: How this is all going down.
• 1:15:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he's life in jail.
• 1:15:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I guess as long as he pays back this money, which again, how do you come up with $16 billion?
• 1:16:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a good question.
• 1:16:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 1:16:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 1:16:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Bill Simmons out in his podcast that we think he's going to jail.
• 1:16:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure there's got to be something, but like I'm not condoning what the man did.
• 1:16:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: But he's like he's 66 years old.
• 1:16:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, he lived your life in Lincoln, sending off the jail for a couple of years Like all right, that's true.
• 1:16:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I guess I don't know But it's like for this dude that had Googin' high in partners.
• 1:16:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's the company that he owns and then TWC global.
• 1:16:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've heard TWG global It's a holding company with investments like
• 1:16:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Again, how did, how did basketball not figure that out?
• 1:16:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Am I wrong for like, am I weird for that?
• 1:16:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, no, I mean, you think the vetting process would be a little bit better.
• 1:16:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: And there's your point about the deferred money makes sense.
• 1:16:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: In that, I'm not gonna be the one to pay it.
• 1:16:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not gonna be here after deal with that.
• 1:17:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're a basketball guy.
• 1:17:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: tax fraud.
• 1:17:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what he hanger.
• 1:17:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was in he's being investigated for potentially tax fraud.
• 1:17:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Walter who built his financial empire in the insurance industry is under federal investigation for alleged tax fraud by other companies tied to the billionaire.
• 1:17:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Bloomberg reported in July that U.S. prosecutors in Manhattan are examining whether Delaware life insurance company or a man owns Delaware life insurance company and clear spring life and annuity to insurers controlled by Walter failed to disclose their private credit holdings back that other Walter controlled ventures.
• 1:17:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: So basically again, his insurance companies were writing loans.
• 1:17:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: to the companies that he owned over here to cover his sports stuff.
• 1:17:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: This security's an exchange commission is running a parallel investigation.
• 1:18:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I don't know much about much, but you don't want to be caught in federal court doing anything.
• 1:18:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's going to go down for this.
• 1:18:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's going to sell a daughter.
• 1:18:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: That one happens to the Dodgers.
• 1:18:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Boy, that'd be an interesting one.
• 1:18:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Fault in on payments, the furred payments.
• 1:18:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy time to be alive.
• 1:18:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, we come back, we're gonna get to the grid.
• 1:18:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do wanna get ready to go for the Browns game coming up on Saturday, we'll discuss that joint practices tomorrow.
• 1:18:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Got it all for it, big play life, stay with us.
• 1:18:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, back at it, big play Cleveland live.
• 1:18:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Don't forget, we'll be right back here tomorrow.
• 1:18:33
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• 1:18:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: We have a little time in between now and then.
• 1:18:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll be here.
• 1:18:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ryan, I'll be here too.
• 1:18:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just cry, I didn't mean to do that, right?
• 1:18:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right, so you're every day.
• 1:18:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's only one consistent tomorrow.
• 1:18:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's switch.
• 1:18:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll go on the desk, you come produce.
• 1:18:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: You would have, like.
• 1:18:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: like that would be your shot like there would be nothing these are these cameras white balanced right I don't know That's all I know I just turn them on.
• 1:18:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'd be out at dude.
• 1:18:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'd be out in Maria and there's so many great videographers and photocopi people You know for all the great you know outfits and KYC and channel eight and all that kind of stuff White balance anybody and they just go so many go stands up with a podium and hold some a piece of paper for a white balance very important
• 1:19:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: out there in Borea.
• 1:19:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll be out there tomorrow.
• 1:19:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: So follow me on Twitter.
• 1:19:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to send out some things.
• 1:19:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: See some people I haven't seen for a while.
• 1:19:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Say hi to everybody.
• 1:19:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll be there tomorrow.
• 1:19:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ryan will be here with us.
• 1:19:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he's here every day.
• 1:19:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's how you do not want me to run in this show.
• 1:19:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I would want to see.
• 1:19:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh God.
• 1:19:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, you don't.
• 1:19:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: One time I would do.
• 1:19:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know nothing of what you do.
• 1:19:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: So in the one way to learn.
• 1:19:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know.
• 1:19:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know.
• 1:19:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 1:19:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's errors.
• 1:19:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to have to start
• 1:19:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't do it.
• 1:19:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't even, we wouldn't make it on the air.
• 1:19:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's just put it that way.
• 1:19:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Probably.
• 1:19:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Probably not.
• 1:19:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey Clayton, boxing is back.
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• 1:20:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love when the boxing adds like third, you know, the rematch.
• 1:20:04
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• 1:20:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Last time, though, which I went to, it was a night to remember.
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• 1:20:22
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• 1:20:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you have been new a boxing match before.
• 1:20:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've been to yeah, Tim van
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• 1:20:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was there at a night two remembers a second one.
• 1:20:38
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• 1:20:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Fantastic time you're right there next to the boxing ring.
• 1:20:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: So close to some of the rings.
• 1:20:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I haven't been to one in a while.
• 1:20:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I went when I was in college a body of mine.
• 1:20:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: had another friend that he had an amateur bout but there was three pro bouts and then the high school championship was that night two and this is no joke the night two remember last event they had a boxer from Italy yeah from Italy it's been in here it's so much fun Thomas got a man of taste the headliner wrote Roni too much hines so I got to watch fight last time he'll be back at the back of this one yeah
• 1:21:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Last time was an absolute blast.
• 1:21:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you're into anything boxing or even if you're not, if that was my doubt, yeah, I brought my girlfriend.
• 1:21:22
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• 1:21:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's never done anything with boxing.
• 1:21:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Have any appreciation for TV on how fast they really are.
• 1:21:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like especially pro boxers are not like it.
• 1:21:31
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• 1:21:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I may be able, maybe we'll come on out.
• 1:21:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we will.
• 1:21:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: That'll be a lot of fun.
• 1:21:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see there.
• 1:21:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh,
• 1:21:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is that that time?
• 1:21:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is that time.
• 1:21:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I get sucked in these guys on Instagram that they do they show a picture Have you seen these guys and they show a picture of a random and then they're just like, oh, you know, like Like Mohammed's a new right and then they they race against one inch.
• 1:21:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Wow, Muhammad.
• 1:21:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right and you you'd see him because I play along like oh Downer driver downer driver, you know, and they play along, but we do it a little bit different here
• 1:22:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: because we got the immaculate grid.
• 1:22:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go.
• 1:22:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
• 1:22:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to start first.
• 1:22:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 1:22:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: This, that one's easy.
• 1:22:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: First round draft pick.
• 1:22:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: So even though we hasn't played a snap, can I do Jeremiah love?
• 1:22:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll click on the thing, as it's say, how to, if I'm assuming appear in a game.
• 1:22:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah.
• 1:22:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, not that amount.
• 1:22:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's do something.
• 1:22:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah.
• 1:22:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, obviously.
• 1:22:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Remember Isaiah Simmons, that linebacker that they took.
• 1:22:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he's not good.
• 1:22:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: But Calamir word.
• 1:22:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Where did he go?
• 1:22:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: They took a they took it.
• 1:22:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I say sim is Carolina or Clemson.
• 1:22:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I only took a lineback.
• 1:22:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, he's from a college.
• 1:22:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he played a Clemson.
• 1:22:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was that guy that everybody's like Udy's a tweener.
• 1:22:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's a safety, but he moves like a linebacker and then they play him at linebacker.
• 1:22:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: He plays for the Panthers right now.
• 1:22:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: God no, I remember some stuff.
• 1:22:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but yeah, uh, but yeah, kind of works, uh, a lot of works, it was the last of the first, right?
• 1:22:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right 30 second column Hamilton could be another one.
• 1:23:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: He wasn't like the first thickness, okay?
• 1:23:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we're messing up 30 second, no, no, no.
• 1:23:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Lamar works.
• 1:23:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 1:23:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, patty.
• 1:23:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Again, we don't go for score.
• 1:23:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: We don't go for score here.
• 1:23:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
• 1:23:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: We got, okay, well number one, you've got the bills and the dolphins that is Ryan Fitzpatrick, all the live long day.
• 1:23:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: We don't need bills dolphins.
• 1:23:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, but that's my problem.
• 1:23:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he played for any of those other two, there was other teams.
• 1:23:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got one side.
• 1:23:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Cardinals, I don't know why this is a first name I thought of.
• 1:23:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Robby chosen.
• 1:23:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:23:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Robby chosen.
• 1:23:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a good one.
• 1:23:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: OBJ.
• 1:23:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: OBJ, I was gonna say there's something screaming right there.
• 1:23:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: So OBJ.
• 1:23:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, Chiefs.
• 1:23:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Tyrell offense.
• 1:23:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Tyrell.
• 1:23:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Tyrell.
• 1:23:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, um, Bills.
• 1:23:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's in Ravens.
• 1:23:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: What is there's a lineman?
• 1:23:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not Kevin Zitler.
• 1:23:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a name out for Bill's Ravens.
• 1:23:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Bill's Ravens.
• 1:23:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Something specific is screaming to me there.
• 1:24:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but we can open it up.
• 1:24:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Bills players.
• 1:24:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Bill's Chiefs is that M. V. S. Or Michael Hardman.
• 1:24:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Did he play and he go to the bills and he jets and then the bills.
• 1:24:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I like me call her man.
• 1:24:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's fine.
• 1:24:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 1:24:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:24:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think you're right.
• 1:24:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: I hope so.
• 1:24:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll buy it.
• 1:24:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 1:24:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Good job.
• 1:24:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Something.
• 1:24:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not deon Dawkins.
• 1:24:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's alignment.
• 1:24:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's some linemen there.
• 1:24:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not Tony Saragusa, it's something's bugging me there.
• 1:24:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I just don't know what it is.
• 1:24:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, Mitch Tribisky didn't play either one of those other spots.
• 1:24:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ryan Fitzpatrick didn't.
• 1:24:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: So Tarot Taylor did everyone in the Ravens?
• 1:24:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: He did.
• 1:24:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he did.
• 1:24:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Tarot Taylor works, right?
• 1:24:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: He does, 100% yep, good call.
• 1:24:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, Cardinals bills.
• 1:25:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, Kurt Warner.
• 1:25:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: No.
• 1:25:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Josh Rosen.
• 1:25:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Josh Rosen.
• 1:25:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: No.
• 1:25:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, Mr. Biscuit.
• 1:25:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: No.
• 1:25:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Jacobie.
• 1:25:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Percent.
• 1:25:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: No.
• 1:25:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Digs.
• 1:25:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: No.
• 1:25:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: No.
• 1:25:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um.
• 1:25:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, hmm.
• 1:25:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, not a Sean McCoy.
• 1:25:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Frank Gore.
• 1:25:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they're Cardinals.
• 1:25:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so.
• 1:25:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Adrian Peterson.
• 1:25:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: He didn't play in Buffalo.
• 1:25:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Jason.
• 1:25:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Only play for the bills.
• 1:25:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he only played for the bills in his career.
• 1:25:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, like beanie Wells.
• 1:25:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I never go to Buffalo.
• 1:25:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't think he went to Buffalo.
• 1:25:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Fred Taylor Patrick Peterson to do play here in Buffalo.
• 1:25:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Ah, I don't think so.
• 1:25:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want to believe it, but I don't think so Jordan Poir never played for Arizona.
• 1:25:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: You, Jay manual.
• 1:25:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you want to Arizona.
• 1:25:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: That I can really remember Bill's Cardinals.
• 1:25:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Bill's Cardinals.
• 1:25:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's got to be received or something.
• 1:25:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: I keep thinking running back, but it's like, it's not James Conner or Gabe Davis thing go to what Andy Isabella go to Buffalo.
• 1:26:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: My only worry is did he appear in a game, right?
• 1:26:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is our kicker we're just missing Matt for Matt Prater.
• 1:26:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Matt Prater, right?
• 1:26:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know for the bills, did he play for the car?
• 1:26:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I play for the car.
• 1:26:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's the car.
• 1:26:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: It is Matt Prater.
• 1:26:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well done.
• 1:26:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
• 1:26:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Look at us.
• 1:26:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
• 1:26:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well done.
• 1:26:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: What did I say?
• 1:26:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, who was I?
• 1:26:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: The baby is a bell.
• 1:26:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll look that up.
• 1:26:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you do our ending monologue.
• 1:26:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, monologue.
• 1:26:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Listen to me, pontificate, if you will.
• 1:26:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think he will know that's him and a buffalo uniform.
• 1:26:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that had to work.
• 1:26:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, let me find a see.
• 1:26:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you play.
• 1:26:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Go to Wikipedia.
• 1:26:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's on the 49ers.
• 1:26:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
• 1:26:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you can just go here.
• 1:26:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Did you hear the regular season game?
• 1:26:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: He did.
• 1:26:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: He did.
• 1:26:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Special teams.
• 1:26:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
• 1:26:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would have been a deep cut.
• 1:26:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:26:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Adam and nice.
• 1:26:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
• 1:26:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
• 1:26:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Saturday coming up.
• 1:26:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Join practices tomorrow.
• 1:27:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Todd Monk in going with the.
• 1:27:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, if I get the work out of the starters.
• 1:27:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's not playing the starters on Sunday or Saturday.
• 1:27:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's no way.
• 1:27:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: What does that say to Shoulder?
• 1:27:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you could sit there and say, well.
• 1:27:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Here.
• 1:27:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 1:27:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is really the the point I want to bring up, and I'm going to find out tomorrow because I'm going I want to watch this in Camtomar He should door your starter for practice tomorrow.
• 1:27:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: You better be right like if he's your starting quarterback on Saturday 100% has to do you're leading into that then he had better be your starter For practice tomorrow
• 1:27:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then I'm going to be a jerk and say, well, if he's the starter and practice on Thursday and you said the starters aren't going to play if they play.
• 1:27:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just kidding.
• 1:27:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know shit or Sanders is going to play on Saturday, but you get what I'm saying.
• 1:27:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that is a twist in this whole thing that I don't think people are really understanding.
• 1:27:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: where I even made a bit of a mockery, if you will, that the Brown's name should door the starter for the second preseason game, knowing damn well that the starters weren't gonna play in that game, but here's your conspiracy theory.
• 1:28:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: What if they thought it was more valuable for Shador to be the starter for the joint practice on Thursday?
• 1:28:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Coaches are now doing what?
• 1:28:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Putting more stock into joint practices.
• 1:28:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: They can do what they want.
• 1:28:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: They can set up what they want.
• 1:28:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: They can sometimes ask the defense to show some certain things.
• 1:28:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe this is a back door in the whole situation with Shidorah and Dishon Watson that they actually named Shidorah the starter for week two, not because of Saturday, but because of Thursday.
• 1:28:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe he's in this further than we think he is.
• 1:28:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 1:28:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: There were not in that game on Saturday that I saw from the Sean Watson that makes me think without a doubt that he's going to be the starting quarterback for Clem Browns.
• 1:29:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, I'm writing to what is I said earlier on the show.
• 1:29:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think they're going to go with Watson.
• 1:29:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I was thinking more about this joint practice.
• 1:29:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I didn't give it enough credit myself.
• 1:29:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to admit that.
• 1:29:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: What if they name she door the starter because they want him to be a starter and they join practice and that's going to mean more to this team Then what to Sean Watson did for the first preseason game.
• 1:29:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just think about it.
• 1:29:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just chew on that for tomorrow.
• 1:29:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll find out.
• 1:29:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I said I'll be out there after we uh, after I do show with Ryan and Bruce Trend because he'll be here tomorrow as well.
• 1:29:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
• 1:29:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and then we'll be off to a Friday.
• 1:29:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll be back.
• 1:29:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, oh, we forgot to do that.
• 1:29:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just Bruce wanted to do the preseason drinking.
• 1:29:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and I did it last week.
• 1:29:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll do it with champagne with garage beer, baby.
• 1:29:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: We did do it last week, which was fun.
• 1:29:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: But you guys, yeah, we did.
• 1:29:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was like, if they mentioned tail and greens athleticism, every time they mentioned the quarterback competition, Shidorah scores the touchdown, Andre Schmidt kick, which he got, which was good, so maybe we'll do that tomorrow.
• 1:30:07
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• 1:30:29
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