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He Is Arguing Against The Abortion Amendment Before Florida's Supreme Court Tomorrow · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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  The Morning Show with Preston Scott. Can you fly this plane and land it?
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  Surely you can't be serious. I am serious, and don't call me.
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  Shrow on News Radio one hundred point seven WUSLA all right, thirty six
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  minutes after the hour, and joining us now in the program is the founder
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  and chairman of Liberty Council, frequent guests of the show, friend of the
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  radio program, and we are friend of theirs. Matt Staver. Matt,
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  good morning, Welcome, how are you. Good morning, Good to be
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  with you. Thank you for having me, my pleasure. You're going to
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  be coming to Tallahassee tomorrow to visit the Florida State Supreme Court. Explain please
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  the importance of tomorrow. Well, tomorrow at nine o'clock at the Florida Supreme
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  Court will be having oral arguments on the Florida Abortion Amendment. They have now
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  gotten over eight hundred thousand signatures to put on on the ballot. So the
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  last thing is this argument here. Any voter initiative has to comply with two
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  things. Number one, it has to be very clear and unambiguous, without
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  any deceptive language or information, you can't deceive the voters. And number two
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  it must address only a single subject, not multiple subjects. So your yes
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  is just a yes on one specific issue, rather than a yes on some
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  things you agree with but not on other things that you don't agree with.
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  So that's the issue Tomorrow at the Florida Supreme Court, I'll be presenting an
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  argument along with the Florida Attorney General and then the proponents. This language is
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  so broad. It says that no law shall prohibit penalized delay or restrict abortion
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  prior to our buildity. It means no law, no law. Just listen
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  to these words. No law shall restrict abortion before viability. Now that's going
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  to be late second, early third trimester. That means no parental consent,
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  no informed consent, no wating periods, no licensing requirements of doctors, no
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  health and safety stand no ban on partial birth abortion, nothing. No law
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  can restrict abortion. Every law restricts its subject matter. And if you say
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  no law shall restrict abortion, that means nothing. Everything is wiped out,
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  totally wiped out, with his abortion totally unregulated. And then after viability,
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  after viability, a healthcare provider can have an absolute veto over any late term
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  abortion law just by saying that it's necessary to protect the health of the woman.
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  Now, who is a health care provider, Well, that's not defined.
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  But under Florida law, healthcare practitioners include fifty eight categories, which includes
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  a nine to one to one operator, a tattoo artist even or an orthodic
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  fitter assistant, somebody who assists an orthotic person to put, you know,
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  things in your shoes that have no medical tree, an audiologist, someone who's
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  an optimologist. It has a huge list, fifty eight categories. When you
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  and I think of health care provider, we think of a medical doctor.
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  Now, these are non medical people that would be under the term health care
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  provider, and they would have the ability to determine post viability, whether the
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  baby's viable, and even if it is viable, it doesn't matter what the
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  law is, whether that person could still have an abortion. So really you
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  have totally unregulated abortion through all nine months of pregnancy at any time for any
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  reason uptil the point of birth. And that is very deceptive. That is
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  not explained to the voter in this Vallid summary that they have proposed to go
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  on the ballot. The voter will not read what I just said. But
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  that's in fact what this amendment does, and that's why it's deceptive. It
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  fools the voters intentionally to vote for something that they would never vote for.
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  Floridians, no matter where they are on this issue, would never vote for
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  no regulation, no health regulation, nothing. You are listening to the Mad
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  Radio Network where you're challenged to make a difference each and every day. Good
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  morning, and welcome to the Morning Show with Preston Scott. Making a difference.
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  It's why I support the Liberty Council. Challenge you to do the same.
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  Go to LC dot org. Matt Staber, the founder and chairman with
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  me man, I want to focus on two words here for a quick couple
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  minutes each. The first word is health. The liberal left loves to be
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  ambiguous when it uses words assault weapons, health. How are we defining the
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  health of a mother? It's not defined. That's another problem. So before
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  viability, no law at all. After viability, a healthcare that I've already
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  talked about, has an absolute veto power over any law if that person says
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  it's necessary for the patient's health. But health is not defined health. You
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  know, when you go back to do versus Bolton back in nineteen seventy three.
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  The companion of Roe v. Wade abortion decision use the World Health Organization
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  definition of health, and that included physical, mental, emotional, psychological,
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  chiological, financial, the age of the woman, all kinds of things that
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  you wouldn't normally think of as health. When you look at the who's definition
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  of health today, it's even broader, so it means not just the absence
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  of disease. It is everything, whether it's financial or whatever. It is
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  sociological, the location where you live, where you work, what your career
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  is. It is undefined. That's why when this amendment says that after viability,
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  a healthcare provider can still say an abortion is necessary to protect the health.
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  Health is undefined. You can't challenge that because health is anything. There's
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  no objective reality here, Matt. The other word I want to focus on
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  is a word that's been used a lot here, and that's the word viability.
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  You know, when I used to speak on some college campuses, the
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  topic would come up and I would tackle the what I think is the fallacy
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  of the argument of viability because in technical, literal, and I think legal
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  terms, when you define viability, a child isn't viable until they can speak
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  communicate, walk and talk and communicate what their needs are. They are dependent
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  on others for the first five, six, seven years of life. We
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  could joke and say, well some into college years, but you get my
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  point. That's right, and that's exactly right. You know, some people
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  think of viability and this is also another problem with the deceptive nature of the
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  baby being able to live outside of the mother's worfy. So maybe late third
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  trimester, late second trimester, early third trimester, twenty two to twenty four
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  weeks and we're in there. Well, that may be somebody's definition, right,
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  but that's not the universal definition because viable could be something like you're talking
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  about. If the baby is outside the mother's womb, they always need assistance,
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  right. You can't just birth a baby and let it sit there.
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  It's going to die on its own. So it needs assistance, whether it's
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  in the womb at the third trimester or out of the womb, you know,
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  and it's actually physically there by itself, it needs assistance. So is
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  that baby viable? I know for a fact that there are some people that
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  are advocating. Professors at different universities, a professor by the name of a
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  singer at Princeton University. He used to say that it would be like two
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  years post of birth that you would give a right to life to a child,
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  because until two years they're not able to make it on their own,
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  and therefore they wouldn't be viable in that respect. So you have the word
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  viable necessary. What's necessary. It's not because of the dire life and death
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  of the mother. It's whatever anybody says. It is health and healthcare provider,
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  all undefined and all exceptionally broad, Matt. The best way people to
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  can help tomorrow, obviously is prior even to nine am, to be praying.
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  Is there anything else? Yes, definitely pray. You can come to
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  the court as well, or there's going to be a press conference afterward if
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  you're in that area, but certainly pray. And you can also go to
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  LC dot org forward slash fl Amendment, forward slash f Element, LC dot
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  org forward slash fl Amendment all together and that's where we'll have information about this
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  case. And then you can click on a link that will be there and
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  listen to the oral argument live as it takes place. I wish you well,
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  sir, thank you for doing what you do. As always You're welcome
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  anytime. Thank you, my pleasure. Matt Staber, he is the founder,
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  he's the chairman. I'll go ahead and say he's lead counsel. He
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  doesn't lose folks, and I think you can hear it. He makes the
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  principled, simple, direct arguments. This amendment is a travesty and it needs
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  to be tossed off the ballot. We can't make this mistake. Too many
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  lives are at stake. Forty six minutes after the hour