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Episode 19. The Fake Population Problem & Furiosa vs. Ellen Ripley (Feat. Heather K of America's Next Top Model - Cycle 9) · High n' Dry Podcast

• 0:15
  SPEAKER_01: He did that the other, I think it was maybe two weeks ago.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_01: He was fucking eating.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_01: He was fucking eating next to his microphone.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_03: I was drunk.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_01: Do not eat those crackers.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_01: Give me those fucking crackers.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_03: I probably will start taking it.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_01: I know you will.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_03: The crackers have been removed from my desk.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_03: Everyone has their alcohol.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_03: We're all ready to go.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_03: Alright.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_03: Hello, everybody.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_03: Welcome to High and Dry.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_03: I'm Ryan Barron North, your resident drunken philosopher on this wonder little wonderful little podcast as we scream into the void with me as always.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_03: Resident High Philosopher James Crosslin.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_03: James.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_01: Hi.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_01: Hi everyone.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_01: It's nice to hear you.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_01: Well, no, you're hearing me.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's nice for you to hear me again.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_03: He's already been smoking.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_03: So joining us today, our first crossfaded philosopher who will be enjoying a little bit of both sides.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_03: Heather Kay, former contestant of America's next top model, Cycle 9, um, video game artist and general all-around human being.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_03: Heather, how are you doing today?
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'm doing great.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_00: Just generally surviving the Michigan uh uh snowstorm, but other than that, pretty good.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, cool.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_03: All right, yeah.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_03: We're uh we're over in Vegas and I've forgotten what snow is.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_00: So uh hooray! Yeah, we live at we live in a wasteland.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_00: White stuff.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_01: I haven't had to shovel in five years.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_01: It's been blissful.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_01: It's been fucking blissful.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_01: I uh I'm sick of blue skies.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_00: I have been shoveling non-stop for the entire week, but yeah.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_03: Well, we're glad to give you a break from that.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and so this is how high and dry works.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_03: We begin each episode with a moral conundrum, and then we end it with a fist fight, as most of these things often shake out.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_03: So we're keeping it real over here with that.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but before we do all that, what sets high and dry apart and which brought our numbers yesterday just under the Super Bowl.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um Well, all of all of Dubai listens.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_03: So all of Dubai listens.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_03: So um, but we get drunk and high.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_03: So to get us started, James, what are you gonna be smoking today?
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_01: So today I'm smoking a I'm actually smoking a cross strain.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_01: So this strain doesn't have a name of its own.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_01: It's actually a cross of two different strains.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_01: It's extreme OG uh bred with orange creamsickle.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that sounds just fantastic.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_01: A creamsickle mixed with monster energy.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_00: It sounds like something from the 90s.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_01: Hopefully it'll take it'll take me back to the 90s for this wonderful competition.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_00: It was okay to have an energy drink that was called cocaine.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_03: It was the glory days.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_03: Uh well, so Heather, what are you going to be smoking and or drinking?
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I have a lovely Voodoo Ranger juicy haze IPA, as well as a Fuego Super Lemon Haze, a nice sativa, which uh with a uh 66.98% for THC and a little bit of C B D on the side.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_00: Nice.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_00: So it's nothing like serious, just another thing.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_03: He'll get you there.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_03: You're gonna get there.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna get there.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_03: Well, um, we'd like to thank you for having for coming on with us um in our first toast for our first shot hit and slug of IPA.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_03: This one goes to Carl Urban and yourself.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_01: Cheers, Heather.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_01: That was a that was a good hit.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_01: So this has like a lot of times when I get, you know, oil uh and bring it on this show to smoke it, it's not it doesn't have a really strong cannabis flavor.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_01: Like it you it tastes like something else, either through added flavor or just because it's it's more consumable and sellable that way.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_01: But this one has like a really strong flour flavor, like I was like I would rubbed the flour on my tongue.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_03: Well, no, I find with Smyrnoff when it comes to cheap vodkas, uh, the the smoothness of this really rings true.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_03: Um and and especially when it mixes with artificial cherry, um, it's just creates something wonderful.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's like drinking a cough drop.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, bring it back when you were a teenager and sneaking off a boom.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and this is this is what you took out of your cheap ass parents' cabinets.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_03: Round two, this one goes out to Georgia.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_03: Woodstock, Georgia.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_01: Way, Woodstock, Georgia.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_03: Our newest listeners over in Woodstock.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_03: Cheers.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_00: Cheers.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's so nice.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's so nice to taste some really good, really good flour.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know how the second shot's worse than the first.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't even seem possible.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_00: You know what?
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, honestly, you should try some Voodoo Ranger.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_00: It honestly, it tastes just like um taking a hit.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_00: And honestly, that was the reason why it was like gifted to me is because the person who bought it thought it actually had weed in it.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_00: And he's like looking at it trying to make sure it had like no infusion just because we live in Michigan and that is actually a thing now.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like you gotta check like everything nowadays to make sure you're not like secretly accidentally like getting the magic brownie.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, that's uh that's something I gotta deal with.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_03: I'm constantly piss tested.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_03: So one wrong move, and there goes my livelihood.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_03: After, of course, the uh the massive influx of money that's coming in from high and dry.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_01: So we're on the third toast.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_01: Is there anything you'd like to toast to, Heather?
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_00: We should definitely toast to uh the legalization of something that should have been legal in the first place.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, all right, how's everyone feeling?
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_00: Very toasty, very good.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_03: Just all over here working through it.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that was a big one.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_01: I think this is gonna be a fun time.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_03: All right, all right, so those three shots are currently uh hailmarying their way towards my bloodstream.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_01: Let's get into let's get into our moral quandary for the day.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_03: It's time to talk about morals.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_03: Alright, so four, our moral dilemma today.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_03: We're gonna be talking about uh something that honestly, I think still, depending on who you talk to, can be can be still 1984 taboo, you know, to them.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_03: Granted, anyone who generally cites 1984 in any sort of their argument has never actually read it.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_03: But that's true.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_03: Uh read it before you cite it, people, Facebook warriors.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yep, yeah.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_03: But anyway, future generations, and right now we risk inherent inheriting an overcrowded, suffocating planet.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um taking action may mean something that a lot of people do consider over the top.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_03: Population control.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_03: Should we impose population controls?
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_03: It's uh that that's that's a tough one, and let's bust it on out.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that is a tough one.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_03: Let's dust that question off.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_03: So, guests go first.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_03: Heather, what are your uh just initial thoughts?
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it cut really comes down to like who the hell gets to decide.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like, exactly what would be like considered the stipulations of well being one of the ones who gets chosen to not be a contributor to the gene pool to compared to someone who is.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_00: Not to mention in the current uh like uh way that like in the current like uh like birth rate that we're going uh we're uh currently going through right now is uh we're it it's dropping.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_00: People are having less kids and they're having kids later on in life.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_01: Well you do.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_01: They they create a TV show.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_01: They get a TV show.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_03: But so the so it seems like you're you're concerned about like, well, who who decides this, who gets to pick what?
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because you're like you're going into like possible uh eugenics, which is a very slippery slope right there.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_01: It's not yeah, it's not possible.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_01: I I want to be clear.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_01: This is eugenics.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_01: Like the the question is should we do eugenics?
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_03: No, well, James, what are your initial thoughts?
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_01: So my initial thoughts are that uh I I do want to argue with the premise of the question.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_01: The premise of the question states that we are on an overpopulated, suffocating planet.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_01: And that is a lie.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_01: We are not on an overpopulated planet.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_01: The way we consume per person, usually from very rich countries more than from very poor.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_01: Rather than from really, it's not the poor countries that are overconsuming, the people with a lot of the countries that have a lot of people are not overconsuming.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_01: It is the very wealthy white Western countries that over-consume.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_01: They consume like 10 times the amount.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_00: Acknowledge the alien in the corner pretending to be like a pipe and just call it what it is.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's the US.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_01: It's the US wealthy wealthy nations consume 10 times more per person than poor nations.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's the way we can not to mention the fact I'm sorry to interrupt you, but it's not to mention the fact that we're making more trash than anything.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like when it really comes down to it, humanity has made more shit than but it's not humanity.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_01: That's the thing.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_01: So James, go ahead and finish your thought.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_01: So it's it's not it's not humanity as a whole.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_01: There is a very specific factor that is taken out of this argument, and it's the rate of consumption based on location and wealth.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_01: The wealthy are the largest wasters of resources on this planet.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_01: They consume a whole bunch of resources for personal travel, they consume a whole bunch of resources in business enterprises.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_01: The US military is the largest polluter on the planet, not some poor country with a bunch of people.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that um it I I don't just think this.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_01: There is a whole bunch of evidence.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_01: So there's a so there's a bunch of research and evidence out there that shows that overpopulation is not a problem of numbers of people, it's a problem of how we consume, and that it can be solved through changing the way we consume rather than having this conversation about reducing the number of human lives.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_01: That's my point.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's a very important point.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_03: Um, well then uh so uh on my side of it, um so well, I mean, just kind of flowing into the the direction we're taking this.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_03: Um I I agree entirely.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely agree entirely.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_03: Um I mean, in my careful what to say, I'm gonna be assassinated by the rich man cult.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um I mean in the owls.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_03: In my humble opinion, all world's problems are caused by the upper upper echelon class.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_03: Um, you know.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_03: That's true.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_01: Uh there's there's not all, but very many of the world's problems.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_03: Like I'd say 99.99%.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: The top one the only thing that that's not their fault is the top 1% of problems.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_03: Well, no, I would say the only the only thing that is well, I would say that the only thing that is not their fault is um um halo culture, you know, online gaming.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, beyond that, I I'd say everything falls squarely in their laps as far as how they've been ruling this world.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_00: And even then, in even then, it's like I kind of even want to say it's their kids who are kind of like part of the like halo gar uh culture.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, no, yeah, they're the ones who relate to it.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's their fault.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_03: Well, so I would say then um just like I said, in the flow of what we're the way we took this, um I I think of you know, you hear those um those stories about at the end of the day you have you know companies to not name any particular company, but they they had that the end of the day they throw everything out and then basically um linebacker their way from any sort of you know giving it to the homeless or you know offering it to anyone.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_03: It's just it needs to be thrown out.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we cannot slashed.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we cannot give away a free we couldn't possibly because then we would lose revenue or some other bullshit.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_00: There would be no incentive to buy.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_00: There would be no incentive to buy, or it's very expensive to even like put up the like the the the infrastructure to even give them out.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_00: Uh we could be sued because someone got sick, or some level of it's like there's always a reason why people should suffer and they should get paid uh for that like for their services.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I actually just was reading uh uh an interesting article in regards to that.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_03: Um it was regarding the the New York subway system, and they had just removed the benches.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_03: And someone says, Hey, why'd you do that?
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_03: And there were there were no lie.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_03: Well, they didn't want homeless people sleeping on the benches.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_03: And so someone else says, Well, wait, so you you made it harder for you know uh disabled, pregnant, and tired travelers to sit down so you can further spread the suffering of the disenfranchised few.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_03: Um but that's what we see there.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_03: But so what I'd like to do.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's like it's bad enough, like that they have nowhere to go.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_00: It's like now you're currently taking the thing that is for the public for them to rest.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: And usually it's like it's this, like I see it all the time where they have this what is it like um uh what is it passive aggressive um uh uh architecture.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_03: What you're referring to is the banality of suffering.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um that that we're we're trained as as a culture and as a Disney viewing people to wait to see evil in grandeur, where there's a villain and there's you know some evil plot, but what it really folds down to is the banality of suffering.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_03: It's just the normal day-to-day suffering that we've all endorsed, that we all allow, you know, the removal of park benches, the all those sorts of things.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I see James.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_01: And for in front of store windows so homeless people can't.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: We're pretty much told that that since we suffer, that makes us stronger, and those who can't get over those suffrage aren't deserving of help.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_03: Well, here's what I'd like to do.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_03: So um I I think at this point, it's it's very clear that um where we all stand as far as the suffering of the world and all that sort of thing.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_03: So the I would like to just pose a side question.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_03: We're gonna just kind of touch on it fairly quickly.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, I'll decide later if it's even worth asking.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_03: Um but so let's let's take this into for the sake of we're we're gonna be talking about Furiosa and uh Ellen Ripley here pretty soon, who both live in their um dystopian or post-apocalyptic world, in the event that the the whole narrative of overpopulation wasn't propaganda, wasn't you know just bullshit, um, and we we were able to bring it when we were able to bring consumption down to a level that was sustainable, and somehow still then um we're dealing with overpopulation.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_03: At what point or do you feel ever can we look at some sort of population control?
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_03: So that's the question I'm gonna ask.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um Heather, what do you think?
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: Now this is a very slippery slope, just because it's like it's mostly just trying to think should we like sympathize with the not like the the the devil, like it's the devil advocate sort of situation.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_00: Let me think.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um if there was ever a situation where it was like necessity, where like only the strong should survive just because of how the system has completely become to a point where it's like it's like it's impossible like to die naturally.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um I mean there's so many shows that like touch on this too.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_03: Well, we're right now, I think as a culture, we're kind of uh obsessed with dystopia.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_00: We are.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: We really are.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: We're we're kind of like where it's like it's that one little thing that it's like it it gets us to actually ask about, like Well, I think we're just doing a little bit of preemptive research, really.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_03: Well well um well, James, what do you what do you think?
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_01: No, I think we should never control the population.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_01: I think that uh if so I would say that it is uh you cannot uh ever institute a population control policy.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_01: It will always be used by people in power against people who do not have power.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_01: You can't do it.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: What you can do is create a society where people's basic needs are met and then give and then make autonomy legal.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_01: And part of autonomy is putting yourself at risk and being allowed to I this is a whole nother conversation, but being allowed to kill yourself.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_01: So I think it's very important that people who don't want to be here be allowed to leave.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um and I think that uh I think that that would solve a lot of people's complaints about uh about overpopulation and and about the you know people who don't want to be here in the first place being like uh drains on resources.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_01: Allow people to have fucking bodily autonomy, allow them to do not do it, do whatever they want as long as it doesn't hurt people, you know.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um I think that would solve everyone's questions, you know.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_03: Interesting.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um well then uh so my final thought on it is um I never so I'm I'm very anti-capital punishment.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_03: Um I I don't think that any sort of governing power should have the power over life and death or you know, birth and just no, no, I I've seen what you guys do with um a billion dollars.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not giving human life as well.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_03: Um it is just no.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_03: Um we we've seen we've seen what humanity does um with the power we've given it.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_03: Um and you know, now uh what used to be an online bookstore um controls the world.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_03: So um so yeah.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_01: Power is bad.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_01: No power.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_03: Power is bad.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um power corrupts even an online bookstore.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, I mean you used to go there for uh great deals on the newest paperback.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_01: And now it's just cause human suffering.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_01: And now they have they have employees getting run over by their efficiency robots.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, um, and and I think at the end of the day that that's that's what it is, regardless of um you know any you know uh race, creed, zodiac sign.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_03: Um as soon as you give that person power, um, they become evil.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_03: And uh well, so um there it is.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_03: So there's our moral dilemma population control.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_03: Um eventually we're gonna get that cease and desist letter from Bezos.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um we've been on to him for a while.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_03: We see you.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_03: But he did just buy it would be one of those um efficiency robots did finally hold him at gunpoint and had him relinquish the CEO status.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: The the robots got sick of the horrible working conditions.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_00: No, oh the you yeah, they they they threatened to unionize.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the new CEO is actually an ex uh floor model uh efficiency robot.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_01: His name is Jazzy.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_01: His last name is Jazzy.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Jazzy like 1v34.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's it's seriously, it's that robot from like space odyssey 2020.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: What was his name?
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: Hal?
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_01: Hal.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_03: Hal.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's Hal.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: Let's face it, it's Hal with a new name.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_03: Well, here's so at this point in the episode, before we get into the fist fight, we have to take our next shot.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_03: So this one is to our new overlord, Hal 9000.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_01: But also it is to Ripley, Ellen Ripley, and Furiosa.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, yes.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_01: We also have to give them credit.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_01: What an amazing group of characters who I can't wait to see what happens when they fight.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, I was about to say, like, is there any like other two people that like every girl nowadays is like wishing to be?
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_03: No, and I well, we're about to talk about it.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_03: We're about to find out.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_03: Well, so here's to here's to to Ellen Ripley and to Furiosa.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_03: Cheers.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_00: Cheers.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_00: Cheers.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: Jeez.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_01: Oh god, that's just so terrible.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_01: Mine's great.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_01: I'm feeling fantastic.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_01: I'm feeling very smiley.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_01: This is a good smiley one.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: You really should do some uh cocktails, Ryan, before you like kill all your like taste buds.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_03: No, I uh I've moved completely on to um I've moved completely on to just hard alcohol.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_02: I mean this.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_02: What are you doing with all those calories?
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_03: Like, what are you doing with all those calories, right?
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I uh just if you reach the point where you can take it on, just just take it on and be done with it.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_03: Alright.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_03: So all right, so high and dry part two.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_03: We've now moved into our fist fight between Ellen Ripley and Furiosa.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_03: How this works in high and dry, we have a patented three-round method to determine which of these fighters is going to take it home.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_03: Round one, it boils down to a fight club style fist fight where these two characters remove shirts, shoes, and belts and just punch each other to death while Brad Pitt looks on ringside and the high and dry crew with Carl Urban.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_03: Or I have the box seats looking down into the darkness there.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_03: Round two, we have these manila folders are slid underneath both um characters' apartment doors, and they now know that their one job in life is to kill the other character.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_01: Furiosa has a cave dwelling, not an apartment.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_00: Well, this is after Fury Road.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: Furiosa isn't like living anywhere.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_00: She's currently in like a box alleyway.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, after Fury Road, everything was looking good, so they went into capitalism.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's great.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_00: Into the like the top apartment and just like so.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_03: Um and then finally, round three, we do something very similar.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_03: Um, the two manila envelopes go under the door, and just in like in round two, where they get to use all of their abilities, they can go buy a gun, they can do whatever the hell they want to to get the job done.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_03: This time, they also have a friend, and uh a lot of times that's what decides it.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_03: Friendship.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, friendship.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's the thing that matters.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_03: So jumping right on in to round one, um, Furiosa and Ellen Ripley have just stepped into the ring.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_03: Um, everyone's going crazy, we're getting ready to fight.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_03: Who's gonna win?
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_03: Heather, what are your initial thoughts?
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_00: Hmm, now this I've actually researched it on.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um if you really think about it, Furiosa, who is she?
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_00: Well, first off, her like we she's a soldier, she's a like a mechanic, she Jesus is a survivalist, first off.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_00: She's freaking, she was born in a world of like just torture all the freaking time.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's like either you like shaped up or you died.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_00: And then we have Ripley who by all means is like brilliant, top of her class, like just like wonderful, awesome.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_00: And but she's not a fighter.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_00: Ripley is not a fighter.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_00: We it's like it's been shown more times that she's more of a like a strategist, while Furiosa, on the other hand, is such a beast.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like, even with one hand, she most likely will like mop the floor with Ripley's curly hair.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_01: That's a that's a great you said some great things there.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_03: Well, James, uh, what are your thoughts?
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_01: So I I I agree with Heather on a lot of points.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_01: I think I was gonna bring this up that Ellen Ripley is not a she's not a warrior.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_01: She doesn't she doesn't fight people.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_01: She fights fucking aliens.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_01: She she she she hides from aliens and then fucking kills them with strategy, but she doesn't fight people.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_01: And we see that Furiosa is great at fighting people.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_01: She's trained to be a warrior against people with one arm.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_01: She fucking fights Mad Max and almost gets him at some points.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and then for myself, um I I would say the the same thing.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_03: And the scene that kind of keeps coming back to my mind, um, and and I felt it, it was the one point where the writers of Ripley sort of sort of kind of screwed up what the way I thought about her, um, was when her and I I forget his name now, but one of the Colonial Marines, they have like almost a touching moment where he's teaching her to use a gun.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_03: You know, and it kind of just shows how green she is in general.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_03: Furiosa never had that.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_03: She will never have that touching moment like that.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um touching moment.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: She was eight years old.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_01: Someone tossed her a gun.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_01: When she was a child, someone tossed her the gun to shoot the man who was raping her currently.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_01: And they were like, if you can kill him with this gun, you get to live.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_01: And and Ellen Ripley never had to face that.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_03: No, okay.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I think then we're we're ready to take this right to a vote, then.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so round one, where it's just a fist fight, even with Furiosa having her uh mechanical arm removed.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_03: Heather, what's your vote?
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's Furiosa.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_03: James?
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_01: No, Furiosa.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_03: And myself, I'm gonna go Furiosa.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_01: There's that was a nice that was just a very clean sweep.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_01: That was one of the cleanest sweep rounds.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_01: We were like, yeah, we all know what's happening here.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_01: Furiosa's gonna fucking murder.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that brings us into round two.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so round two, we've now zoomed out.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_03: They're no longer just you know face to face with each other.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_03: Um, they have to they now have some means of getting this done.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um Ryan's not drunk enough.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_01: He actually wrote down who round who won the first round.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna know at the end.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_03: Um I'm getting too used to this.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_03: You know, after this, I got some errands I gotta run.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_01: So we're professionals.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_01: Damn it.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah, my blood's like, oh, it's high and dry day.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_00: Me, it's like it's Tuesday.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_03: Just Tuesday.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_00: Wait, Monday, a minute.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_03: Oh boy.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_03: Whatever day of the week is.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_03: Whatever day we're recording.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_03: So around two, the characters have just received their marching orders to go ahead and kill that other person, and they now have access to all their abilities.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_03: Um, they're at their strongest point, and there's one thing that I would like to ask here.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_03: So, I, in my opinion, I do not think clone Ripley is who we're talking about here.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's not.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_01: All right, so I totally agree.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_01: Clone Ripley was Ripley's DNA mixed with an alien's DNA into arguably the worst alien movie.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_00: She has to be safe for another day.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like, she is a completely different beast.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_03: Well, then since we're all in agreement, Clone Ripley does not factor into this because I mean that would have changed round one also.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, totally.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_03: So round two now, normal ass Ripley.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_03: She's at her strongest, so she she's now dealt with some shit against Furiosa.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_03: She's got her arm back and everything that entails.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_03: Um, they're what I imagine at this point, um, just so they have a chance of meeting, we see Ellen Ripley land on this apocalyptic world that Furiosa thought was Earth, but it's in fact just you know, an apocalyptic world.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_01: A colonized planet from this from the space travel.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_01: That's a great idea.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_03: And again, um, directors, writers, everything like that.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_03: We keep track of the ideas we come up with here.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_00: You mean from aliens.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_00: So you're talking about the colony from aliens sort of scenario.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_01: So I also like the idea.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_01: This could work just as well with uh with Ripley returning to Earth hundreds of years in the future, and this have having happened while she was gone.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, that works also.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_03: So either way, uh Ripley has either gone to a colony or returned to Earth to find a world that you know she's capable of and Furiosa is familiar with.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_03: So, Heather, what are your first thoughts in this particular situation?
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_03: Who's gonna win?
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_00: Well, this is actually very important for me to ask first.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly what is allowed for her to have at this moment?
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_03: Anything she could get her hands on.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_00: Anything she couldn't get her hands on.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it would it be anything that she had in the second movie?
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, anything that could go on a spacecraft.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly what she had in that moment.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_00: So she had an M16, an M2 uh uh 203 grenade launcher, an M41 pulse rifle, a what I have no idea what this is, which is an M56 smart gun, which is just essentially just made up gun.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_01: These are all some pretty advanced weapons.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_03: Uh big rig.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_01: She has a sweet, a sweet ride.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, let's not forget.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_00: Let's not forget, she also has that thing that like uh like the big rig, like the body rig thing as well.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so uh Ellen's gonna step off with their big robot exoskeleton.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_00: Not necessarily, not necessarily, and I must make point.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_00: As much as Ripley is like a like strategist, as soon as Furiosa sees her, she's gonna shoot her freaking eye out.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_00: Let's not forget, back when uh that one dude, I forgot what was his name.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_00: Let's see.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_00: I have it written down here somewhere.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's something ridiculous.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_00: Uh not Mad Max, uh, this guy named Major uh Kalashkov in what I assume like what I can only describe as a uh a must tank.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_03: You're you're referring to the scene where she shoots through the darkness.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she shoots through the mist and shoots out the uh like uh the light.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_00: We she is a crack shot.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like literally, she's sure is so good.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like in one moment, there was a time when she was literally shooting people out of the air, people with like motorcycles, and she was like literally just one-shotting them, like no matter what.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_00: She's a such a good shot.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_00: As soon as she gets like an eye on Ripley, unless Ripley knows exactly who she's fighting against, like from the first one, from her first butt whipping, like it really depends on whether or not Ripley can get into like close enough to her to like mechanize like the shit out of her.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_03: Alright.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_03: Well, some good points.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_03: Uh James, what is your thoughts?
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I would say that uh Heather's right that uh Furiosa is really good at shooting people who are coming towards her.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_01: Uh she lives in a world without subtlety.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_01: Furiosa does.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_01: And uh Ripley, her specialty is hiding and then ambushing.
• 34:59
  unknown: Okay.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_01: That's what she does.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_01: That's what she does to the alien several times, is she hides or she uses the environment around her.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, which is a technical strategic way of thinking and approaching problems, where whereas Furiosa is very, I have a a goal and a mission.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_01: This is the this is the drawback of being a warrior.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_01: She in the first round, being a warrior served her incredibly well.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_01: But in the second round, being able to use your environment, and and of course, she's gonna have her fucking car.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_01: That that's gonna be a clue for Ripley, you know, this this this fucking apocalypse car rushing toward her.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, I feel Ripley in this case, we usually find this in the second round.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_01: Strategy, just hiding and strategy are are really powerful tools.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna give it to Ripley on the second one, especially with her advanced weaponry.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um so May I make a note.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_00: If Ripley is able to get on the rig, Furiosa's screwed.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_03: Well, the idea of Furiosa just being as overtly vicious as she is, um, after listening to kind of both sides of that, I I do think that not only does Ripley's knack for you know a more subtle style of survival mixed with her thematic, you know, setting of you know being the last, the last um survivor, the last woman.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I I think that that's what would kind of pull her ahead in that second round.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, especially after we just saw her so viciously get ripped apart by Furiosa in round one.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um well, so Yeah, if she knows Furiosa, she will actually start to plan it out.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_03: Well, so and and in this in the case of round two, they both are aware that this person's coming for them.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_03: Well, so Heather, what's your vote for round two?
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_00: Well, then it's gonna be Ripley.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_03: We got one for Ripley.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_03: James, what's your vote?
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_01: I think we swayed her.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_01: I think I am also for Ripley.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm gonna say Ripley as well.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, we are of one mind in this in this fight.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_01: We'll see how it turns out in the last one.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_03: So round three is a little more difficult.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um, it it works in the same kind of way, except this time they each get to bring a friend.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_03: Um I'm gonna go out on a limb and I'm gonna say that it's safe to assume that Furiosa is going to be bringing Mad Max.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's fair.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, cool.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_03: So we figured that out.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and I think, in my opinion, Ripley is either going to bring clone Ripley.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_00: They never or um she's going to bring they're not in the same like uh like timeline.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_00: That's not possible.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_03: Well, then in that case, I think she's going to bring the predator.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_01: They're united.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think they ever met either.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_01: That's the sad thing.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_03: Nah, but I think her daughter, I don't know.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_00: I have uh like I contest that.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_00: I I actually think that she would bring uh the alien.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_03: That's an interesting thought.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_03: Well, uh, James, uh, you seem to have an uh an idea.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_03: Who do you think Ripley's gonna bring?
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_01: That was uh Heather, I gotta say, saying that she would bring the alien is such an interesting suggestion that I hadn't thought of.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um the problem is I I I I really considered that for a second.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_01: The problem is uh that the reason the aliens like ignored her was because she had she was gonna die.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_01: Like her death was imminent, or that she had clone queen, or that she was clone Ripley.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she had a queen egg inside her when when Sigor, the only time Sigore.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_00: So she was pretty much like they pretty much ignored her.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, she was a ticking tie bomb for death, though.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she was doomed.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_03: Well, but on top of that, so the alien, so I mean, if we want to assume that in round three, um, Ripley has a queen egg inside of her, and we have an alien defending her.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_03: She's doomed.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_03: She's doing it.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but she's she'll die.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_01: She can't fight when she's doomed because she loses anyway.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, well, so James, who do you think?
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so I think uh I think she would bring the android from that other ship.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_00: You mean Bishop.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_03: She's gonna bring B.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_03: And I that's honestly what after all my uh nonsensical ones, I thought for sure Bishop.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_01: That's interesting.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_01: I that's interesting that we came to that same conclusion.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_01: Uh he was on the Suleco.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, and and uh Bishop is who makes up for um the first android Bilbo um that is that attempts to kill her, and they develop a relationship that actually lasts more than one movie.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um so I think it's fair to say then that the Android Bishop is gonna be backing up um Ripley.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_03: So it's Ripley and the Android Bishop versus Furiosa and the Mad Traveler, Mad Max.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_01: Damn.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_03: That's that's a fight.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_03: Uh that's uh this is a crazy fight.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_03: This is a very crazy fight.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_03: So, Heather, what are your initial thoughts?
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_00: Well, my initial thoughts is really what what is going to like win out here?
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_00: Is it gonna be uh brawn or strategy?
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_00: So let's think to ourselves exactly like who do we have here?
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_00: And the first off is like though Bishop has like sheer strength, I have yet to see him actually do anything but be like Frankenstein to anyone.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_00: While on the other hand, we have Max who literally went into the freaking mist with just guzoline and took out this guy in a Mustang who is screaming to the like ether, I am the scale of justice.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, hear me.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_00: And literally you didn't see anything, you didn't see anything but just a pop of like fire in him just coming back.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_00: He doesn't say a damn thing about like anything until he goes up and asks, What the heck am I washing my face with?
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_00: That man is like is like literally it's like unless it's an alien, it's like he's Ripley and Bishop don't got a chance.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_03: Alright, well, James, what are your thoughts?
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_01: That's an interesting opinion.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I agree that Mad Max is incredibly powerful.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_01: I I actually don't have I I'm gonna preface this and say I don't fucking know on this one.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_01: This one seems crazy to me.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um Mad Max also has a history beyond the Tom uh Tom Hardy version.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh, and he has he does have a lot more history.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so he's bringing in the Mel Gibson version of Mad Max as well.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_01: Uh oh, damn.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_01: That Mad Max at his at in his arc is incredibly powerful.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_01: He is a he is an anti-hero who does not lose.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_01: The man doesn't fucking lose.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um he's almost immortal, actually.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_00: If you really think about it, that first like like uh crash, it should have killed him.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, everything should have killed him.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_01: He should have been dead like a million fucking times.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um and he's also he's so fucking resourceful.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_01: He like can do anything with anything is is his superpower.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_01: On the other side, you have Ripley, who uh who is incredibly strategic, and now she has a source of remember, this android has all this fucking information.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_01: This android has the information connected to her spacecraft.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_01: So like he can use the tools on the spacecraft to scan this planet as they're pulling in and be like, these are the this is the landscape, this is the topography, give me one of the weapons, you know.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_01: This is a banana's fucking fight.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_00: Uh colony is what's in the uh colony, what can we use?
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like, he's literally, it's like having it like uh what is Surrey with you, only Surrey can like whip ass.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_03: Well, here's what here's what I think would go down um as I'm listening to those points.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_03: What I think you have here is you have the unstoppable force, that is Mad Max, against the immovable object, which is Ripley, at least on the surface.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_03: However, especially once you go into the Mel Gibson version of Mad Max, um you find that the unstoppable force is a little more unstoppable than Ripley, who eventually does get a queen in her, who eventually does die.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_01: She is doomed, is part of her story.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_00: If it's the one where it's like she has an alien.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_00: There's a chance that, like, yeah, though the alien's gonna rip like those uh Furiosa and Mad Max to shreds, but at the same time, uh Ripley's gonna die anyway.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_01: So it's like no, you're right.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_01: That's her story.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_01: She's not just doomed, it's a Pyrrhic victory where she's doomed, where she loses everything, but so does the enemy.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_00: So what I think so what I think happens here like literally that's the thing.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_03: Well, what I think happens here is that um Ripley will get Furiosa.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_03: However, we cannot kill Mad Max because if the writers of Mad Max kill Mad Max, he stops suffering.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_03: Meanwhile, Ripley is doomed.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_03: So I think Mad So I th what I think is gonna happen there is that Bishop and Ripley will be able to take out Furiosa.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_03: However, they will not be able to take out Mad Max.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so what I think will happen here, in my opinion, is that Furiosa will lose, but then Mad Max will plow through the rest of the fight, and that'll be the end of it.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_03: Interesting thoughts.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_03: Well, so what we're gonna do now, um Heather.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, this is contentious.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_03: This is contentious.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_03: What is your vote?
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it would still be Furiosa because Mad Max would come in at the last moment and uh bring her back.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_00: Because for some reason, his blood is like freaking like powerful enough to bring that woman back from like head trauma and being stabbed.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_00: Literally stabbed.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_03: So you think Furiosa would still survive because Mad Max saved her life.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_03: Interesting.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_00: Because literally, it's like she her story is the tragic uh uh martyr.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_03: And if if you have any part of Mad Max in you, you're gonna keep living.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_03: Well, well, James, what's your vote?
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_01: My vote is different.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_01: I am not I don't think that Furiosa and Mad Max would win.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_01: I think Mad Max I think this would be a perfect place to end the Mad Max story.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_01: I think this would be a perfect place for his final moments to be of suffering.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, to be of extreme suffering.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that it would actually be a draw.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_01: I think this would be a draw where Ripley ends up in a dramatic fashion, sacrificing herself in order to stop them.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_01: But that wouldn't be the end of the movie.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_01: The end of the movie would be Mad Max blown part to pieces, just his final moments just suffering on camera, and then that's the end of it.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_01: And as he has flashes of his kid in his mind, and then that's the end.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_01: Just immense suffering and perfect place to end him.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um, well then I would have to say uh yeah, so you're saying that uh I'd say they both did everyone would die.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that every everyone would lose.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_03: Um, well then I have to say from my vote, oh this this is this is a tough one, and I I think the one thing that's kind of pushing me one direction is that Fury Road was a great film, and Alien the last one fucking sucked.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_00: I still have that.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_00: I just watched it again and realized Jesus.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_00: This sucks.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_00: Alien through the bad thing.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_03: Like what what but like what kind of Kevin Sorbo ass made for sci-fi ass shit was this?
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_01: You're right, the Fury Road is a better film.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_00: And I I and I think Well, Alien 3 is just like off-watch.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's just you you feel like you need to drink like all you need to drink what Ryan is drinking after watching Aliens 3.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and well, well, I I think that the the final alien showed us that um that's enough of that.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_03: Um meanwhile, the final Mad Max showed us I really hope that Charlie Sheron shows up for one more.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_03: Um and I think that's where it goes.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_03: But at the last second there, I'm gonna have to go with James, and I think it's a draw.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's a draw.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_01: I changed my vote.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_01: My vote goes to Firios.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_01: You just convinced me that I should vote for Furiosa.
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_03: Alright, well then I'm gonna do that too.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_03: Furiosa.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_00: No way she can lose.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_00: I guess I'm gonna do the same.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she would like totally do it.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_00: If it was with Bishop, yeah.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_00: You you just made me realize alien?
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there was no alien for sure.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_01: And and you just made me realize that her her the third movie, the alien movie, was supposed to be a triumphant self-sacrifice, but also I didn't like I was like, this is what they were trying to convey.
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_01: Instead of like, fuck this movie up through the door.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_01: Terrible! Like tri a triumphant it's like it was it was supposed to be awful.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_01: It was supposed to be good, and I was looking at it through that lens, and and but it wasn't, and you just reminded me of that.
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, oh, wait a minute.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_01: That was terrible.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I was like, oh, I was like, it's really great that that's her story.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_01: Wait, no, it's not.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_03: Well, hold on a second.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_03: I just watched it, but it was really bad.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I can't be the only one who's so frustrated.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's furiosa.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_00: I can't be the only one who's furious, like frustrated that Furiosa about it.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I can't be so furiosa.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_03: Well, there we have it.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_03: Our answers come through.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_03: It comes down to writing, and so round one goes to Furiosa, round two went to Ripley, and then round three goes to Furiosa.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_03: So when in the fight of these women, we give it to There you go.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_03: I mean the uh We love you, Charlize Theron.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Charlie's Theron.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Charlie's.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_01: She's getting one.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_01: She's getting a series.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_01: Oh wow.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_01: I think she's getting a series on HBO.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_01: All right, well, we'll look into that.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_00: She's not getting in the series.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, what is it?
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's that little.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_01: I thought she was, or is it or is she getting her own movie?
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_00: No, um, it's that slip of a girl who's in uh New Mutants as well as uh uh Queen's Gambit.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the Queen's Gambit girl.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's Anya Taylor.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_00: Uh was it Taylor?
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_00: I'm saying it wrong, ain't I?
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, her last name is Taylor Joy.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's Anya Taylor Joy.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like she's perfect for it.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like, but it's gonna be one of those hardware.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_01: I really like Queen's Gambit.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_03: No, I I think she's good.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_03: Um I I do think I do think that it's a bit of a disservice to Charlize.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_01: I think Charlize Theron should have been the star again.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_01: Definitely.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_01: But I wonder if they approached her and she just didn't want to do it.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_01: That's possible.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_03: Well, my fear is that um in Hollywood we there's a tendency to just kind of disappear women once they turn 40.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's um, which is you know, I I don't I that's not necessary, yeah, especially just for how you know, just for Furiosa, you know.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_03: But but anyway, um we can discuss that on a first part of another episode.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so for to wrap it all up, the this fight is going to Furiosa.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_03: Um, Heather, thank you so much for joining us.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_03: Um, you've been great.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so Heather, um, you got anything coming up?
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_00: Honestly, I've got some few things on the horizon.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_00: One of them I've been thinking about uh starting a podcast on uh fandom and the strange things like that people do, like just pop culture or culture.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um interesting.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, um I'll uh send you guys a link for it.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and um yeah, just like uh if anyone needs to get in contact with me, is just send uh a uh message to my uh email to at hqismic at gmail.com.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_03: Sounds good.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_03: Well we're gonna keep an eye out for that.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_03: And uh, you know, we'd love to maybe get ourselves a spot on there as well when you start taking off.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_00: Oh man, you know you guys are gonna be like the first one on there.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_01: I have so much to say about fans.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_00: How great they are, great and great things they do.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_03: Um well, so thank you so much again.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_03: Um, James, where can you find us?
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_01: Uh you can find us at high and try pod on Twitter.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_01: I am at the diabolical.
• 53:04
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• 53:07
  SPEAKER_01: Uh you can find us on Instagram at high and dry podcasts.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_01: You got any more for us, Ryan?
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, at this point, you just uh Google High and Dry Podcast.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_03: And we're the first.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_03: We're the first now, baby.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_03: They're the only and then of course, uh, you know, Ryan Barron North.com.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_03: Um, just Google us, it's all there.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so Heather, thanks again.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_03: You've been great.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_00: No, guys, thanks for having me on.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_00: This has been amazing.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_03: Well, we're glad you enjoyed it, and we hope everyone listening enjoyed it as well.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_03: We'll catch you next week when we talk about something.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_03: Have a good one, everybody.
• 53:41
  SPEAKER_00: Bye.