Latest / The Wes Carroll Morning Show / Impeachment Talk... Again
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- 0:01Start your day with Wes. You're listening to the West Carol Morning Show.
- 0:09Wednesday morning, twenty sixth day of July. I'm Wes, thanks for joining
- 0:14me. Haven't talked a whole lot about the developments in the Biden family business
- 0:26dealings. The more evidence that's come in and certainly starting to indicate that when
- 0:34the president before he was president, was asked about his dealings with his son
- 0:40and he said that he never discussed business with Hunter, Biden never discussed business
- 0:47with him, and you know it wasn't involved and never discussed. That was
- 0:54the carefully crafted wording for his excuse, I've never discussed business with my son
- 1:03Hunter, because I think it was becoming more and more clear over time that
- 1:08he was, in fact his son was in fact doing some very shady business
- 1:15dealings overseas, was involved in some things, and I think at the very
- 1:19least we knew for a long time that there was something suspicious going on.
- 1:23And then we had times where the then Vice president bragged about, you know,
- 1:30forcing someone in Ukraine to do something or else. He wasn't going to
- 1:36get some money he was gonna get it, wasn't going to give him money
- 1:41unless he took care of someone and some business dealings, and I remember all
- 1:46that. We remember all that, and it started to become more and more
- 1:49clear that there was something just not right. Over time, right, we
- 1:55knew there was something suspicious about all of it. But the White House,
- 1:59once Joe Biden got into the White House, kept insisting that he didn't have
- 2:05anything to do with the business dealings. He wasn't involved, he wasn't aware
- 2:07of them, but specifically that he never discussed business with Hunter Biden. So
- 2:16I think it's possible that he didn't discuss business with him until the evidence came
- 2:25in that it's pretty clear that he was definitely involved, right, I mean,
- 2:30the evidence points to involvement. Is it possible for a father not to
- 2:35get involved in business dealings of their son. Sure, I heard people say
- 2:38differently. Of course he was talking with them. All fathers who care about
- 2:43their sons would talk about business with their son. And that's not necessarily true.
- 2:47You raise your kid, you expect him to at some point leave the
- 2:52nest, right, wink and winkin and nod. They got to leave the
- 2:55nest. They got to get out there and fly away and do their thing.
- 3:01But this isn't a typical family. This isn't a typical family situation.
- 3:06It's pretty clear something and we've known this for a long time. Something there's
- 3:10business dealings going on that involve all sorts of members of this family. So
- 3:17for a long time we were getting the excuse of they never discussed it.
- 3:23There was a point with the previous Press secretary in the White House, Jensak,
- 3:29when she was asked in a press conference if they are standing by the
- 3:38defense that Joe Biden never discussed on Biden's business dealings with a son. Yes,
- 3:46was the answer given. And they have continued to say that while she
- 3:51was Press secretary, and for the most part that's been the general defense of
- 3:54all of it. This week is when things started to check change a little
- 4:00bit, and I think as we start to get more and more evidence to
- 4:04the contrary of this, no, he never disgusted with him. So now
- 4:14it seems to be just a little bit different. Now the answer is a
- 4:20different answer. Karine Jehan Pierre, who's now the White House Secretary of this
- 4:27week, has said the President was never in business with his son. Again,
- 4:33it's a very specifically crafted answer to the question, isn't it never in
- 4:42business with his son, and then that's going to be the answer that they're
- 4:45going to give moving forward. Now, keep in mind, we are at
- 4:48a point now as Republicans are starting to look into whether or not impeachment hearings
- 4:57would be justified for this pres isn't it. I've said before that I think
- 5:04that ever since the Clinton impeachment, we have entered into a phase of it's
- 5:12now just a smearing. Impeachment is no longer an actual attempt at hanging charges
- 5:21on someone, pressing charges on someone. There's a perception that impeachment is bad,
- 5:29which it is. A President of the United States being impeached is bad.
- 5:33An elected official being impeached is bad. That is not something that someone
- 5:40wants. If you are in a position of authority and you are impeached or
- 5:46there's a vote of no confidence against you, those sorts of things, those
- 5:49are not things that you want to have happened. You don't want any of
- 5:54those things to happen to you. You don't. You just it hangs a
- 5:59certain shroud of negativity towards you. Right, It's not something that you want.
- 6:05So we had the Clinton impeachment, and it was pretty clear that there
- 6:12were situations where the then president had been lying under oath and all these things.
- 6:18It's pretty clear it was justified impeachment in that regard. The president shouldn't
- 6:23have done it, he should have known better, But it was pretty clear
- 6:26it wasn't going to go anywhere. We weren't going to get to a situation
- 6:29where he was going to be found guilty and thrown out of office. That
- 6:31was never going to happen. And I think when it comes to impeachments,
- 6:38that was certainly a case, and there were certainly inappropriate conduct that was happening
- 6:46lying under oath. Any of those things you would say not okay for a
- 6:51sitting president. Inappropriate relations with staff, with interns, not okay, not
- 6:59okay at all. But when it comes to impeachments, I personally feel like,
- 7:08and I'll quote the great Robert van Winkle who once said, under his
- 7:13pseudonym Vanilla Ice, you better hit bull's eye the kid don't play. And
- 7:20I think if in the name of politics, we would stop looking at impeachments
- 7:27as a way of hanging a shroud on someone and look at it as a
- 7:30situation of we're going to impeach someone because we feel that they're guilty and that
- 7:39we can actually get a guilty verdict if we were to pursue this, but
- 7:45that's not what happens. So Clinton impeached and acquitted. Then came President George
- 7:57W. Bush, and there was some controversy in question about him and his
- 8:03winning of that election in two thousand. We had people who election deniers,
- 8:13largely on the left. May have been a couple of people on the right.
- 8:16I think they were. People on the right would have been happy,
- 8:18but there may have been some on the right. I won't say that everyone
- 8:22who had issues with it was on the left, but from a politician standpoint,
- 8:28it was probably just people on the left who denied that outcome. John
- 8:33lewis one who you know, we've had election laws named after him. He
- 8:39denied the outcome of that election. There were many others who did. I
- 8:43just like to bring him up because everybody thinks he was, you know,
- 8:46such a staunch supporter of supporting the outcome of elections and voter rights and things,
- 8:52but he wasn't. He would later object to the Donald Trump win as
- 8:58well, but they were and wouldn't attend States of the Union, wouldn't attend
- 9:03inaugurations, any of that stuff. So there were people who objected to the
- 9:07outcome of the two thousand election. They said, no, no, no,
- 9:11no, this can't be the outcome. There was something suspicious about the
- 9:16way it was handled in the state of Florida, and that George W.
- 9:20Bush did not win. Al Gore should have been president, and then anything
- 9:26that George W. Bush did at that point, and we'll just impeach him,
- 9:31Let's impeach him, let's let's get him, let's impeach him. And
- 9:35people would say that about him, and of course he wasn't impeached. He
- 9:39served his eight years. We had Barack Obama, Barack us Saint Obama when
- 9:46people he got into office, and people said, oh, he needs to
- 9:48be impeached, and people said, well what for, I don't know,
- 9:52just impeach him, let's just get him. What exactly did he do?
- 9:56What did George W. Bush do that you wanted to impeach him for?
- 10:00And some people waiting very weak arguments in both cases. Oh, a birth
- 10:03certificates going to war for no reason in Iraq except to defend the honor of
- 10:09his father, those sorts of things. There were no weapons of mass destruction,
- 10:16and ultimately, of course, neither of them faced the impeachment. When
- 10:20people wanted it to happen, they said it should happen, he should be
- 10:26impeached. Then Donald Trump comes along, people immediately impeach him. He didn't
- 10:31really win. We know he didn't win. Hillary Clinton should have been the
- 10:33winner. He didn't win. And if people were screaming for impeachment, writer
- 10:39they gate. There were politicians who promised, we will impeach him. That's
- 10:43going to happen. That will be our goal while he is serving as president
- 10:50of the United States. Our goal is to impeach the man. We're gonna
- 10:54get him, not having anything it was. It didn't start from a place
- 10:58of he's done something criminal. It started from a place of we're going to
- 11:01find a reason to impeach him. And then they did. Any reasons that
- 11:07they might have wanted to impeach Donald Trump, by the way, from the
- 11:11beginning all from lies and made up allegations, right, it was all made
- 11:18up. I think they knew that then the people who wanted the impeachment,
- 11:22but they wanted the impeachment, so they didn't really care. It didn't concern
- 11:26them that it was made up or that they were part of making it up.
- 11:31Their concern was hanging the shroud on him. They wanted to get him,
- 11:35They wanted to punish him and try to embarrass him. That's what they
- 11:37wanted at the beginning. So it was impeach, impeach, impeach, and
- 11:43ultimately they came up with some reason that they were going to do it.
- 11:48We're going to impeach him, that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna we're
- 11:50gonna file articles of impeachment, and we know that it's not going to go
- 11:56through. We're not going to convict him. He was acquitted. Then we
- 12:00got to the end of the presidency and there were things that happened in the
- 12:03final days, and just for good measure, well I take you back.
- 12:07I need to go back a little bit and say that those people who promised
- 12:11that they were going to impeach him bragged about, Yes, we managed to
- 12:16do it. We told you we were going to impeach him, we were
- 12:18going to do it, and we did it for you because we were honoring
- 12:22our promise, our campaign promises that we would do it. And I'm talking
- 12:26about people like former Speaker Nancy Pelosi. So then we get to the end
- 12:33of his presidency, and for good measure, as he's on his way out
- 12:37the door, it's over. It's the presidency's over. But for good measure,
- 12:43there was this call to impeach him again. So they did, let's
- 12:48impeach him again. He'll be the only president who's ever been impeached twice.
- 12:50But there's not enough time to do anything or for it to matter. Also,
- 12:56it's not like you're going to get the votes this time, but it's
- 12:58not about that. It's about the fact that he'll be the only president who's
- 13:03ever been impeached twice. That's what we want. We want to hang that
- 13:07shroud on him, and then that's what they did. So now we're in
- 13:13a situation where we're working our way towards a reelection time for Joe Biden,
- 13:18and it seems like this is now going to be weaponized again, at least
- 13:22considering weaponizing it again. I got a few questions on it because I do
- 13:26think that this is this whole impeachment thing has become ridiculous. It's you either
- 13:33have the potential or you either have committed a crime and you've got the evidence
- 13:37to support a trial. Where you think you're going to be able to have
- 13:41them convicted, or you're just doing it for the show. I mean,
- 13:48that's what it comes down to, and that's what it's become any comments or
- 13:52conversation. And I also feel like every time the impeachment comes out of the
- 13:56holster, and it shouldn't come out of the holster very often, but apparently
- 14:00is just going to keep coming out, or at least, you know,
- 14:03people screaming that they're going to take it out, that it should not come
- 14:09out without a real possibility of And every time we do it, it's just
- 14:13gonna incite someone else to do it again next time. And I think the
- 14:16talk of impeaching Joe Biden right now, although as evidence starts to mount,
- 14:22we're starting to learn a whole lot more about business dealings within this family,
- 14:26and it's a long list of them, and they're growing, and the evidence
- 14:31is growing and the accusations are growing. So it certainly seems like it could
- 14:37be justified. But I do think we have to get to a point where
- 14:39there's even a slight possibility that it's going to end up with a conviction.
- 14:45Now, the question is is that what they're trying to do is just to
- 14:48hang this on them and go, you you impeached our guy, We're going
- 14:50to impeach your guy. Because we're rolling into an election. At the very
- 14:54least, the score would be two to one the impeachments and acquittals, because
- 14:58I think it's all always important to remind people when someone is impeached and then
- 15:03acquitted. There's a defense that comes up sometimes about Bill Clinton where they say
- 15:09he was impeached, but he was acquitted. Nobody seems to want to bring
- 15:13up the fact that Trump was twice acquitted. He was not found guilty in
- 15:18either case. So is this talk from Republicans that or are they simply playing
- 15:26along into something that could be a longer term game that Democrats maybe secretly deep
- 15:33down want to happen. They want Trump out, and if Trump's out,
- 15:37they want Biden out. So is that possibly where this could all be heading
- 15:43with all the criminal charges for Trump and trying to strategically organize the trials so
- 15:50that they'll be going on during the election next year, hoping that that will
- 15:54be enough to make sure that he can't possibly win against Joe Biden, because
- 15:58they believe Joe and the only person who can beat him but if they figure
- 16:03out a way to get Trump out of there completely, then they're gonna need
- 16:07a way to make sure they get Biden out of there as well, because
- 16:11then they're gonna want to move on. Because if someone like Rhonda Santis or
- 16:17Tim Scott or Nicky Haley or any one of the Republicans that are starting to
- 16:22make some weight, if one of them becomes a serious contender for the White
- 16:26House because Trump's out of the way, I think Democrats are going to start
- 16:30looking for some youth as well, and they're going to start looking somewhere like
- 16:33a Gavin Newsom. I think they're gonna have to and they're gonna need some
- 16:37way that they can just push Biden out of there. So is this Republicans
- 16:41kind of playing into that or is this just part of the I don't know.
- 16:45I mean, the idea that there could be a former president, you
- 16:52know, facing charges with court hearings going on next May, and that we
- 16:56could have a current sitting president in the middle of an impeachment process next year,
- 17:00with both of them poised to be the candidates for their party in November
- 17:06of next year. It's a weird scenario. It's just a bizarre set of
- 17:11circumstances that we're looking at. But now as we're starting to hear from the
- 17:15White House this talk of I mean, they're certainly not saying that he wasn't
- 17:21in the room during some of the business dealings. All they're admitting to now
- 17:26is that he was never in business with his son. What does that mean?
- 17:30They never had a business license together. They never went down and had
- 17:33a yard sale together and signed up for it and had people come over,
- 17:38and you know, a garage sale, yard sale. It couldn't be a
- 17:41garage sale because he had documents in his garage, didn't he It's just some
- 17:47sort of a yard sale or something that they could have been doing. But
- 17:49no, they never were in business together. That is not that is the
- 17:52admission right now. They were never in business together. That I mean that
- 18:00they you know, I don't know, Hunter Biden's got a lot of real
- 18:04shady business that he's been involved in, but criminal stuff, you know,
- 18:10with the crack and the prostitutes. But those are business dealings. I would
- 18:15assume, I would hope that his dad wasn't in any way involved in those
- 18:18business dealings. Maybe there's the business that they're referring to he wasn't involved in
- 18:22those that business with a song. I don't know, I don't know what
- 18:26they're talking about. I just know that it's a very crafted it's been altered.
- 18:30This has changed, and it's changed now since the last Press Secretary,
- 18:37and it's changed drastically since just earlier this year because now it's very different verbiage
- 18:44and it means something very different. So we'll see moving forward as Republicans are
- 18:49poised to maybe start looking at impeachment and we'll see where that goes. Today's
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- 22:21Show right after the break. Summer vacation season is winding down, at least
- 22:33for our area, and a new survey found that the average American sets their
- 22:40vacation budget limit at about twenty seven hundred dollars. About sixteen percent of those
- 22:45surveys said that they wouldn't spend more than a thousand on a vacation. In
- 22:48addition, fifty five percent of respondents said to save money, they would vacation
- 22:53domestically this year. But even when money's tight, vacations are important to people.
- 22:59Survey found that Americans prioritize saving up for travel more than hobbies, retirement
- 23:03savings, or home improvements, and as we start looking at back to school,
- 23:11another expense conversation that the surveys are starting to have. The average parent
- 23:17expects to spend about five hundred dollars a little less than five hundred bucks for
- 23:21eighty nine on school supplies this year. According to a survey, fifty percent
- 23:25of the parents who were surveyed said that they planned to save money by buying
- 23:27school supplies earlier than usual. Well, it's time. I know it depends
- 23:34on where you are regionally, but it really is time right now, as
- 23:37we're starting to get to a point where summer's winding down at least all right.
- 23:45According to a Yugov pole, ninety five percent of dog owners believe that
- 23:49their dog is capable of love. Experts say, here are some of the
- 23:56behaviors that will reveal that your dog has affection for you. So if your
- 24:00dog does these, yeah, your dog may love you back. If they
- 24:04don't, well then you may not. Dog may not quite be as loyal
- 24:08as you think. Do they bring you their toys? All right? That's
- 24:12a check for us here in this house all the time, follow you everywhere?
- 24:17Yes? Another check? Do they lick you a lot? Yes?
- 24:19Do they love to lean on you, Yes. Do they excitedly wag their
- 24:25tail when you enter the room, Yes, especially when we arrive home and
- 24:30he's watching us through the window. Do they stare at you even when you're
- 24:33not looking? I guess so, but then I would be looking, right,
- 24:38I don't know, I mean, yes, he does that. Definitely
- 24:41does that? Especially for mom? Right, definitely for mom. That's just
- 24:47the reality early diners, not just for early dinners, I should say early
- 24:55dining, not just for seniors anymore. That used to be a thing you
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- 25:06and more Americans of all ages are choosing to dine out as early as five
- 25:08PM. Lately, eating dinner late used to be trendy, but now it's
- 25:15become annoying because the restaurants are getting too crowded, and diners had a harder
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- 25:38between six thirty and seven thirty. And according to Yelp, restaurants are seating
- 25:42ten percent of diners between two and five PM, which is up five percent
- 25:48from twenty nineteen. Okay, yeah, two between two and four. I
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- 25:56And hey, if you want to eat between two and four, you
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- 26:02somewhere between five and six. That's where we go now. We aim for
- 26:07that. Sometimes it's later, but especially when we're going as a family,
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- 26:36reality, all right. Finally, Amazon and Whole Foods are announced that by
- 26:42the end of the year, all five hundred plus of their locations in the
- 26:45US will be offering Amazon One Palm readers at checkouts. That means you'll be
- 26:52able to go shopping without your wallet, your purse, your phone, any
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- 26:59your palm right now. The Amazon one Palm readers are available two hundred Whole
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- 27:11check out, you wave your palm over the reader, and then you take
- 27:15your things home. I think there's a there's been a long fear about being
- 27:22able to I don't know, there's something there's something biblically concerning about this.
- 27:26I'll just say it that way. It seems like it could be, you
- 27:30know, I mean, it's not quite getting a mark or a chip or
- 27:34something. But if has this feel of that, doesn't it just a little
- 27:40bit of a feel of that. I mean, I don't I don't want
- 27:41to, you know, ignore the convenience of this, because I like the
- 27:45idea of not having to carry around my wallet or having to carry around I
- 27:52can we get to this point with like our driver's license. How many times
- 27:55if you had left the house and just sought, man, if I could
- 27:56just not have to have my wallet it at all? And why do I
- 28:00need this? Can I put the driver's license? Can you? Can you
- 28:04have that in an app on your phone? That would be convenient, wouldn't
- 28:07it? So with a palm reader for that would be nice. But it's
- 28:12still a little concerning. Does have a certain you know, certain implication,
- 28:18certain I don't know, just has a very doomsday feel to it, doesn't
- 28:23It doesn't it feel like we're I don't know. That'll do it for this
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