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CLP President Jamie De Brenni dismissed claims the CLP is no longer a political party following Sam McMahon's resignation · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: Well, there's certainly a lot happening right around the Northern
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  Speaker 1: Territory at the moment, and if you hadn't heard the news,
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  Speaker 1: Senator Sam McMahon has indeed resigned from the Country Liberal Party,
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  Speaker 1: effective from Friday, issuing a statement this morning that said
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  Speaker 1: I have informed the COLP President, Management Committee, Leader of
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  Speaker 1: the Nationals, the Honorable Barnaby Joyce MP, and the President
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  Speaker 1: of the Nationals of my decision. This has not been
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  Speaker 1: an easy decision and I have wrestled with it in
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  Speaker 1: recent times. It brings to an end a thirty year association.
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  Speaker 1: I feel I no longer have the confidence in the COLP.
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  Speaker 1: She went on to say there are a number of
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  Speaker 1: unresolved issues beyond the pre selection. The issues include formal
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  Speaker 1: complaints lodged with Management Committee that have not garnered a response,
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  Speaker 1: let alone an acknowledgment, and she went on to say
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  Speaker 1: my intentions regarding the next election will become clearer as
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  Speaker 1: the date draws closer, and that speculation regarding the next
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  Speaker 1: parliamentary sittings in a week's time will also become clearer.
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  Speaker 1: She currently doesn't have any plans for her future political
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  Speaker 1: or otherwise, and she intends to vigorously pursue my private
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  Speaker 1: Senator's Bill ensuring Northern Territory rights when Parliament returns, and
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  Speaker 1: continue working hard for the Northern Territory. So that is
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  Speaker 1: a statement there from Senator Sam McMahon. But what does
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  Speaker 1: this mean now for the COLP? Are they still a
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  Speaker 1: viable party?
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  Speaker 2: Well?
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  Speaker 1: Joining us on the line right now is the CLP
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  Speaker 1: President Jamie de Brenny. Good morning to you.
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  Speaker 2: Happy here, Cody, How are you very well?
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Jamie.
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  Speaker 1: I tell you what an interesting way for the COLP
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  Speaker 1: to start the year, Sam McMahon, Sam McMahon resigning from
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  Speaker 1: the party, What does this mean for the CLP? Are
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  Speaker 1: you still going to be able to operate as a
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  Speaker 1: political party?
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  Speaker 2: Of course we are, of course we are, and you've
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  Speaker 2: I think I've stated this before. All the accusations in
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  Speaker 2: regard to our nonconformances already undertaken with god legal advice,
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  Speaker 2: and everything under our concertitution with affiliations to federal and
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  Speaker 2: state parties is aligned with the Nationals under their associate
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  Speaker 2: affiliate flaws in their constitution which was set up in
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  Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine. We've got full advice from the policy
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  Speaker 2: writers that in both this nude rules everything. So we've
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  Speaker 2: done all our due diligence regards to Sam, look for respect.
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  Speaker 2: Sam's decided to do what she's doing and we move on.
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  Speaker 2: We've got incredible candidates that were elected you know by
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  Speaker 2: they pre selected by the same process, which is a
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  Speaker 2: territory wide represented process, and we'll move forward, you know,
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  Speaker 2: to senterprise. Sammy Ryan and team McFarlane are our ash party,
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  Speaker 2: the double five one down, no matter what's putting in
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  Speaker 2: front of us, and they won't fed the one while
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  Speaker 2: we're worry about the next step. They're going to win
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  Speaker 2: the setutation the title. So we've got a pub the
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  Speaker 2: bulldog there.
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  Speaker 1: So Jamie, with that legal advice that the CLP has
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  Speaker 1: been provided, it has said this, you know that the
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  Speaker 1: CLP is not going to have to cease.
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  Speaker 3: As a party, are you you know, are you.
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  Speaker 1: Required to have a certain number of members within the party.
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  Speaker 2: No, we are actually associated with the Nationals Australia which
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  Speaker 2: has been covenant. How their is everyone, it's Australia. It's
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  Speaker 2: an association act. That's my understanding, and with that we're
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  Speaker 2: compliance and yeah, and with Sam, it's the first part
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  Speaker 2: of her with her statement, it's all respect to her,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, if they're aspirations politically to keep going, congratulations,
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  Speaker 2: we now know we have had to be respectful. We
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  Speaker 2: do have a candidate in there. We've always been respectful
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  Speaker 2: to Sam. We can promote center for the Senate. Damian
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  Speaker 2: and Tina get to work and look, we've got to respect.
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  Speaker 2: Now we're in probably the most difficult this is Sam
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  Speaker 2: takes resources with her. Each candidate we're like to remember,
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  Speaker 2: were now fighting for incuvenants have take of funded allowances
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  Speaker 2: and provisions and resources to campaigns. We don't have that.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to have to do what we are, which
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  Speaker 2: is a territory party. We're true territory representation. But we're
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  Speaker 2: going to have to rely on people to donate support
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  Speaker 2: three voluntary and everything and then say to them, well,
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  Speaker 2: we can say to you, you are donating your money
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  Speaker 2: to the cause that would be spent on what you want,
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  Speaker 2: which the taxpayers don't have that privilege.
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  Speaker 1: So Jamie, does the nationals? I mean, look, does the
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  Speaker 1: national membership cover the COLP.
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  Speaker 2: It's my understanding and as I said, is yes, and
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  Speaker 2: that's not just after these other affiliations and associations as well.
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  Speaker 2: So Victoria everyone like that.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, so how many members of the CLP are they?
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  Speaker 2: Well, at the moment, it's up and down everywhere. We're
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  Speaker 2: actually restructuring. We don't have a firm that we're compliant.
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  Speaker 2: We've always been compliant where we all need to be
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  Speaker 2: and we'll keep doing that. Unfortunately, we we got here memberships,
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  Speaker 2: we've got everything. We're restructuring our program. So I don't
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  Speaker 2: have a firm figure and I'm not going to speculate,
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  Speaker 2: but I know we are complying. We are always doing
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  Speaker 2: that and it's part of our restructure internally that we
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  Speaker 2: are doing so we can ensure that we can try
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  Speaker 2: and this is the first stage of the federal elections
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  Speaker 2: to save the territory. You know, there's enough water, bad enough,
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  Speaker 2: we're drowning, but crime is killing us and we need
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  Speaker 2: federal federal representation that's going to bring this to the
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  Speaker 2: four you know we're dying, so good time and publicly
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  Speaker 2: acknowledged Matt Patterson, the mayor of our Springs and his
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  Speaker 2: statement that's their maid regards to crime. And I call
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  Speaker 2: on every mayor being next counselor and that get behind
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  Speaker 2: Madam Patterson and let's start taking this head on.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we down.
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  Speaker 2: There with him.
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  Speaker 1: We are going to talk more about about that issue
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  Speaker 1: of crime in Alice after eleven o'clock this morning. I've
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  Speaker 1: got a business signer coming on to speak further to
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  Speaker 1: us about that.
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  Speaker 2: Too, Thank you. Yeah, because we don't have any acknowledgement
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  Speaker 2: here with it. It's just things. By My fear is,
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  Speaker 2: we've had a pregnant woman be knocked over being rob.
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  Speaker 2: We've had seventy year olds rob, We've we've got statements
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  Speaker 2: out today that bus drivers are just not even reporting.
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  Speaker 2: We can't accept this. You have a look at even
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  Speaker 2: look in the shelves, look like a bloody man makes film.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, look And like I said, we'll talk more about that,
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  Speaker 1: but I am keen to just to just stick on
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  Speaker 1: this issue of the senator at this point in time.
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  Speaker 1: Does the CLP operate as I mean, are you an affiliation?
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  Speaker 3: Are you either? You know, does the legislation Association?
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  Speaker 2: We're association. We're associated with a federal party.
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  Speaker 3: And that is the National Party. So what would happen?
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  Speaker 1: What would happen if later this week Senator Sam McMahon
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  Speaker 1: decided to join the NATS and run at the federal
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  Speaker 1: election as a National Well.
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  Speaker 2: He'll be a national representative, which would mean that we're
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  Speaker 2: associated with that representation. That's purely is simply up to them.
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  Speaker 2: I can't speculate, and I've got personal guarantees. And remember
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  Speaker 2: this is the Nationals that have helped us to be
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  Speaker 2: ensure we're compliant. We've talked to the policy writers that
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  Speaker 2: wrote the policies, which is Liberals and everything, and our
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  Speaker 2: legal advice that they've given us everyone is we are
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  Speaker 2: police compliant where it is required for all our needs.
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  Speaker 1: What would it mean though, I guess what would it
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  Speaker 1: mean though Jamie if if if? And I'm purely speculating here,
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  Speaker 1: but we know that she has a very good relationship
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  Speaker 1: obviously with Barnaby Joyce and a very good relationship with
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  Speaker 1: the National Party. So what would happen if if Sam
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  Speaker 1: did decide to take that route? What would then happen
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  Speaker 1: with the CLP's candidate just enter price.
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  Speaker 2: It would not change the CLP would resent that's been
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  Speaker 2: the CLP, And this is you know, it's just a
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  Speaker 2: very big speculation. Realistically, you know, you're right. In a
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  Speaker 2: good story you might have to go into story writing
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  Speaker 2: would be good. Well, the scenario that comes out she
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  Speaker 2: can run for the Liberals, can run for Labor. She
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  Speaker 2: is still another candidate. We've put her hand up in
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  Speaker 2: her mind, given choice.
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  Speaker 1: But then in the Senate, though, Jamie. But then in
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  Speaker 1: the Senate, obviously, you know, in the Senate, the CLP's
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  Speaker 1: senator or whoever that may be, sits with the Nats.
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  Speaker 1: So would it then make things difficult? And I know
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  Speaker 1: I am speculating, but would it make things more difficult?
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  Speaker 2: Look, well, well I don't know. We haven't got that scenario.
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  Speaker 2: We don't choice. We have an agreement, which is the
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  Speaker 2: long term that we prioritize sitting with the Nats, with
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  Speaker 2: our per senity, our second tenancy Theligne with the Liberal
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  Speaker 2: Now that's been something way back since nineteen seventy four,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and in two years time as the fifty
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  Speaker 2: years that's been there, it is speculation. Look, it's another scenario.
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  Speaker 2: It's like today we've broken up and right we now
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  Speaker 2: are not just Enterprise as our candidate as our only
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  Speaker 2: Senate representative of the CLP. Let's get behind the Australia
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  Speaker 2: and the Northern Territory. Because this is a very very
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  Speaker 2: strong woman. I'll tell you what I tear anyone to
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  Speaker 2: say that she doesn't speak out now, dare anyone.
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  Speaker 1: One of the other things that Senator Sam McMahon said
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  Speaker 1: in this statement is that there are a number of
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  Speaker 1: unresolved issues beyond the pre selection. She says the issues
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  Speaker 1: include formal complaints lodged with the management Committee that have
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  Speaker 1: not garnered a response, let alone an acknowledgment.
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  Speaker 3: Is that the case?
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, I apologize that I've never heard that statement before.
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  Speaker 2: As I said, I've just climbed out from inside the
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  Speaker 2: bloody roof trying to find leaks because where it desert
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  Speaker 2: and when that range, everything leaks. But look, there is
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  Speaker 2: issues now, there is acknowledgement that happened accepted, and we're
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  Speaker 2: dealing with their internal affairs and there are complaints and
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  Speaker 2: not activation. So there's things that we have to do
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  Speaker 2: and we're MoMA volunteers and it's due diligence will be undertaken.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to come back with a response that
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  Speaker 2: we don't have.
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  Speaker 1: But if someone makes it, wouldn't you respond to somebody
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  Speaker 1: if they do make a complaint, if is something that
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  Speaker 1: you know that is a concern, But none is a complaint.
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  Speaker 2: In regard to issues that Sam has had with people
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  Speaker 2: inside the party, individuals inside the party, and that's going
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  Speaker 2: to be dealt with. We two. We have to get
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  Speaker 2: a response and that's an internal thing. And God help me,
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  Speaker 2: Conservative politics throughout Australia and now there's problems everywhere. So
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  Speaker 2: look you, that's SAMs Shorts. I don't want to lower
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  Speaker 2: myself for this sor the standard and bagging people and
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  Speaker 2: shit like that. We need to get on our positivity
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  Speaker 2: for the territory. And it's not me. I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to bag out on Sam because I got so much
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  Speaker 2: respect for her. She represented our emblem, which is we
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  Speaker 2: gave her the privilege to do for three years and
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to respect her for that. You know, as
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  Speaker 2: long as I.
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  Speaker 1: Know her well, Jamie, I am going to have to
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  Speaker 1: wrap things up very quickly. How the supermarket shells looking
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  Speaker 1: in Alice At the moment.
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  Speaker 2: I'm actually just going to get smoke over the boys.
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  Speaker 2: There's fans and trucks coming in. As I said, I
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  Speaker 2: was funny when I was driving here. There's somebody on
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  Speaker 2: John Law saying we're about to eat each other, and
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  Speaker 2: beside me, I was getting a bit worried because I'd
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  Speaker 2: be able to probly sight anyway. No, we're not that bad.
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  Speaker 2: Amazing we get behind each other and always with a
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  Speaker 2: roadkill and grab anyway.
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  Speaker 3: Oh goodness mate, that'd be getting a bit desperate. Mate.
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  Speaker 3: We better leave it there. Good to catch up with you,
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  Speaker 3: no doubt I'll talk to you again soon.
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  Speaker 2: Look forward to it.
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  Speaker 3: Katie, thank you, thanks for your time.
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  Speaker 1: That is the COLP president there, Jamie de Brenny. Now
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  Speaker 1: that number if you do want to send us a
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  Speaker 1: message zero four, double nine seven, double one three six zero.
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  Speaker 1: Will take a very short break. When we come back,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to be catching up with Craig Garaway from
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  Speaker 1: Saint John's