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Jags Media Roundtable: Ballou, Heilman · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Time for another media round table. The second week of
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  Speaker 1: camp coming to a close. I'm JP Shadrick and along
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  Speaker 1: with us today from the Athletic He's moved over, Philip Heilman.
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  Speaker 1: What's up Phil? How you doing man? Hey? I'm doing
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  Speaker 1: him Well. It's a Friday and the Jacks had the
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  Speaker 1: day off tomorrow. What could be better than that? It's
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  Speaker 1: pretty good and they're off the field by ten o'clock
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  Speaker 1: today or something like that. What do we did it?
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  Speaker 1: Is there such a great break up? Plenty of time
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  Speaker 1: to write, plenty of time to maybe grill out, maybe
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  Speaker 1: have a few beers or something tomorrow. There's the world
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  Speaker 1: is our oyster? Tippy? Well, let's finish today first before
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  Speaker 1: we think about the off day. First. I'm with you,
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  Speaker 1: I got you, and I'll wait for the invitation. That'd
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  Speaker 1: be great. Rick Blue tint xcel, what's up Ricking? Hey?
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  Speaker 1: How are you good to see? I like the early
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  Speaker 1: schedule and I really like the seven fifty five am
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  Speaker 1: start today. Off the field early and get some stuff done.
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  Speaker 1: Like you said, Phil, get out of here, and if
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  Speaker 1: you talk to some of the players in this locker
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  Speaker 1: room about just the earlier time in general, on the
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  Speaker 1: field eight five out of there at eleven thirty meetings
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  Speaker 1: and stuff during the hotel. Know, I think they love
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  Speaker 1: this thing because you you show up, you go right
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  Speaker 1: on the field, and you're not waiting around the meeting
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  Speaker 1: room all day. It seems like the schedule is um
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  Speaker 1: is a change for the better, at least from the
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  Speaker 1: guys I've talked to, I'd agree, And you know, Claius
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  Speaker 1: Campbell said, even Jalen Ramsey said it really gushing about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Doug Moron making these changes. I I really
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  Speaker 1: wish that I knew how all of this evolved at
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  Speaker 1: one point. Did Doug sit down with Tom or did
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  Speaker 1: Doug come up with this on his own? Because you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think of the way things used to be when
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  Speaker 1: Tom was here beginning in nine, and I understand that
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  Speaker 1: the game has changed completely from then, But how did
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  Speaker 1: that conversation go about let's do things early, let's rest bodies,
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  Speaker 1: let's take off pads. This is a totally new look
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  Speaker 1: camp from anything we've seen around here. Yeah, and it
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  Speaker 1: seems like the afternoon break is really what guys are
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  Speaker 1: enjoying now, from that like four to seven window where
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  Speaker 1: they can get their treatment, they can get out of
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  Speaker 1: the building, go have dinner, and then the meetings at
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  Speaker 1: night are back at the hotel, so you're not here
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  Speaker 1: from eight to eight all day long, long, grinding days.
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  Speaker 1: You sort of break it up a little bit. It's
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  Speaker 1: a little more efficient, little more time off your feet.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it makes a lot of sense
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  Speaker 1: and it's smart. It's good to see from Doug Moron.
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  Speaker 1: You know, somebody who, along with Tom Coughlin, is you know,
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  Speaker 1: sort of considered an old school coach. Uh, does things
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  Speaker 1: a certain way. Well, it's good to see that he's
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  Speaker 1: adjusting with the times because I think this is the
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  Speaker 1: way the NFL is moving. Uh. You know, you see teams,
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  Speaker 1: you know, holding star players out of the preseason entirely.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like that's the case here, but it
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  Speaker 1: does seem like Maron is going to you know, be
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  Speaker 1: very thoughtful in terms of how many snaps guys plays,
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  Speaker 1: I play. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Nick
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  Speaker 1: Foles on the field, you know, for a fewer snaps
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  Speaker 1: than we saw Blake Bortles in the past. And it's
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  Speaker 1: just all part of how the NFL is moving, and
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  Speaker 1: it's good to see that. Doug Morone. It feels like
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  Speaker 1: he's on sort of maybe not the cutting edge of that,
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  Speaker 1: but he's on the right track as opposed to sort
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  Speaker 1: of being left behind. We got burned so much last
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  Speaker 1: year by the injury bug. Not that the camp maybe
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  Speaker 1: had anything to do with that. It was just some
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  Speaker 1: some bad looking games and all that. But he said
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  Speaker 1: it on a show a few ago he had never
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  Speaker 1: really seen anything like that. So how do you try
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  Speaker 1: to do what you can to avoid something like that,
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  Speaker 1: is make some changes where you can, and we'll see
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  Speaker 1: if it works out. I think the jury is still out. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and it's tough to to judge just by injuries because look,
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  Speaker 1: they lost two guys yesterday. You can plan and you
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  Speaker 1: can have, you know, the best of intentions, but at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's still a physical game.
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  Speaker 1: It's still just an absolutely brutal game. You stay on
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  Speaker 1: the sideline today and even just when guys are getting
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  Speaker 1: tagged off, you're like, man, that would probably left to
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  Speaker 1: hamprint on my body for God's sake. But yeah, a
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  Speaker 1: couple of big injuries yesterday that they'll have to bounce
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  Speaker 1: back from that. They're doing the best they can, but
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  Speaker 1: still at some point that's just gonna happen. Yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: was really unfortunate. I mean really early on, things look
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  Speaker 1: really really good outside of boy A and and Rolls,
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  Speaker 1: and we were told that if it was a game week,
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  Speaker 1: they would certainly be, you know, ready to go. It's
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  Speaker 1: all been a precaution. Then all of a sudden, bam,
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  Speaker 1: you lose two rookies yesterday. So you know they've tried everything.
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  Speaker 1: But obviously both of you guys, you know, stay up
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  Speaker 1: with what's going on league wide, and you know this
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  Speaker 1: is typical every team right now is battling injuries through
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  Speaker 1: the end. Fell Yeah, Rick bluetin to excel. Philip Hammond
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  Speaker 1: from the Athletic with us on this media roundtable, second
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  Speaker 1: week at Jaguars camp in the books, and you mentioned
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  Speaker 1: Quincy Williams here. He's a guy that turned so many
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  Speaker 1: heads the first couple of weeks of camp. They love him,
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  Speaker 1: and he's been playing with the ones most of the
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  Speaker 1: offseason and in this camp and Doug called him the
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  Speaker 1: fastest guy on our football field and all that. But
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  Speaker 1: then it didn't happen that the knee injury, I guess
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  Speaker 1: didn't happen yesterday. He'd been playing with it a few days,
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  Speaker 1: it sounds like and it's just an unfortunate thing for him,
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  Speaker 1: But it's nice to hear that they're confident he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be ready to go a week one. I think that's
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  Speaker 1: the if there's any positive out of this, it's that
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  Speaker 1: it happened this early in camp that it's possible to
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  Speaker 1: get him back and maybe back on the field before
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  Speaker 1: Week one and ready to roll against Kansas City. But
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  Speaker 1: he's still a rookie, that's the thing. We haven't seen
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  Speaker 1: him play, and he's the reps that's the thing. And
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  Speaker 1: that's what I wrote for yesterday for The Athletic was
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  Speaker 1: breaking down Dug Maren's quoite about Quincy Williams from Tuesday
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  Speaker 1: early in the week. It was the second half of
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  Speaker 1: the quote that everybody's talking about. It was that he's
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  Speaker 1: the fastest guy in the field. D is gonna be
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  Speaker 1: piste off, the receivers are gonna be piste off. But
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  Speaker 1: the first half of the quote I thought was really
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  Speaker 1: interesting in light of the injury was Dug Baron went
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  Speaker 1: to Quincy william said, hey, man, I know you're playing
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  Speaker 1: a lot of snaps and Quincy says, whoa whoa coach.
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  Speaker 1: I want the snaps. I need the snaps. I want
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  Speaker 1: the snaps. You know, I know, I recognize that I
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  Speaker 1: need to to learn and make mistakes and grow from that.
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  Speaker 1: And that's just not an opportunity afford to him. He's
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  Speaker 1: gonna have thirty eight days from the day of the
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  Speaker 1: injury to the Kansas City openers, so you would think
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  Speaker 1: a four to six week injury. There's a pretty good
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  Speaker 1: chance that he'll be back for a week one, if
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  Speaker 1: not probably a week two. But yeah, you lose a
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  Speaker 1: lot of opportunities. You lose the two joint practices in Baltimore,
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  Speaker 1: you lose the four preseason games, you lose more practices here,
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  Speaker 1: and for somebody who's jumping from the Ohio Valley Conference
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  Speaker 1: to the a SC South, that's precious time that you
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  Speaker 1: miss out on. You're not gonna get that back. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that means that Quincy Williams season is suddenly
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  Speaker 1: a right off. I think you'd come back and still
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  Speaker 1: be a useful player for them, but certainly it hurts.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a huge blow. I really do. I'm
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  Speaker 1: I'm I have always been an every snap guy counts time.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, for Clais Campbell. That's one thing. For Jalen Ramsay,
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  Speaker 1: that's one thing. But for a rookie like this, he
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  Speaker 1: needed uh the experience he needs to go out there
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  Speaker 1: in practice every day hit with Baltimore. Now, let's face it,
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  Speaker 1: you're down to your third week side lineback. Chriskelvin's gone,
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  Speaker 1: Quincy's gone. You start looking at Remique Wilson, d j
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  Speaker 1: Alexander and others. It's tough to win in this league
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  Speaker 1: when you're on a third string player. So hopefully he
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  Speaker 1: can be back, but you've got Pat Mahomes and this
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  Speaker 1: explosive offense coming in on September eight. You want arguably
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  Speaker 1: one of your fastest defensive players out there. Even if
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  Speaker 1: he is ready to go on September eight, he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: miss a lot of valuable reps here in the month
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  Speaker 1: of August. And Doug Rohne this morning didn't seem as
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  Speaker 1: positive about the diagnosis of Josh Oliver. I guess they
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  Speaker 1: don't really know the full extent of how bad it is.
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  Speaker 1: Doug didn't really want to delve into deep on that today,
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  Speaker 1: but just his tone didn't seem as positive as the
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  Speaker 1: as the as the other one. For Quincy. No, not
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  Speaker 1: at all. And I think hamstring injuries are. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's sort of the problem is if you have a
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  Speaker 1: meniscus there, you pretty much know, okay, you can get
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  Speaker 1: it trimmed. You can. You'll be out for to six
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  Speaker 1: weeks both hamstrings. It's I'm in the soft shoe injury.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes they can linger. You know, who knows how long
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  Speaker 1: it could be. And uh, yeah, I from I took
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  Speaker 1: from that that Dug Morow does not expect Josh Oliver
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  Speaker 1: to be on the field in week one and it
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  Speaker 1: could potentially linger longer than that, and that's it's a bummer.
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  Speaker 1: It was a one on one passenger yesterday. He beat
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  Speaker 1: Andrew wing Gard of Reserve Safety. Uh catches the ball.
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  Speaker 1: Wingard sort of falls down on top of them as
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  Speaker 1: they're going to the ground, and he looked. He comes
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  Speaker 1: up and immediately you're like, oh, that doesn't look good.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he was immediately limping hobbles over to the
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  Speaker 1: cooling area that we don't see him. You sort of
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  Speaker 1: felt like it was on that track that we you know,
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  Speaker 1: I figured that there probably wasn't gonna be some good
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  Speaker 1: news because it did not look good in hampstring injuries
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  Speaker 1: and they look like that generally are things that tend
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  Speaker 1: to linger. And then yeah, now it's a it's a
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  Speaker 1: position group that the Jags got nothing out of last
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  Speaker 1: year they felt better about this year. They still have
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Wayne who not a huge track record, and then
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  Speaker 1: it's the same sort of James of Shaughnessy, Ben Koyak,
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  Speaker 1: Charles Jones. I just it's a blow to that position group,
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  Speaker 1: and it's one that the Jack's thought that they had
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  Speaker 1: improved over the off season. Now you sort of wonder, okay,
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  Speaker 1: how much better is it really? Turn a lot of
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  Speaker 1: heads and camp, you know ot A's particularly and uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, this does hurt their passing offense. I think
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  Speaker 1: that there were really very few expectations positive expectations for
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  Speaker 1: him as far as a blocker. But you know, we
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  Speaker 1: saw something today that we haven't seen in a long time.
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  Speaker 1: That was a beautiful thirty yard pass from Nick Foles
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  Speaker 1: to James O'Shaughnessy. So it begs the question can Foles
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  Speaker 1: really make other players around him that much better? You know,
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Swain has had a nice camp. Unfortunately for him,
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  Speaker 1: the last three years have ended because of an injury.
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  Speaker 1: So that's a question mark out there you that you
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  Speaker 1: have to really consider as well. Um, maybe that is
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  Speaker 1: the situation where you can get by for a few
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  Speaker 1: weeks with with those type of guys without Josh Oliver,
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  Speaker 1: and you know it will be something of all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden we see in game where you know, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think defensive coordinators are gonna be preparing to stop
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  Speaker 1: James O'Shaughnessy. All of a sudden, you complete a nice
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  Speaker 1: thirty yard pass to him. That's an example of just
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  Speaker 1: how much better this team is because of the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Rick bluts into Nextel Philip Almon for the Athletic We
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  Speaker 1: just got out as we're recording this, We just got
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  Speaker 1: out of the media meeting with the officials who are
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  Speaker 1: here this week, and you know, they go through the
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  Speaker 1: video that they showed the players and then we have
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity to ask some follow up questions and that
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  Speaker 1: and the big one this year was the offensive past
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  Speaker 1: interference and defensive pass interference are now challengeable by coaches
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  Speaker 1: and the way I gather and it doesn't really change
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  Speaker 1: what the officials on the field do. They still call
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  Speaker 1: it or don't call it or whatever it is. And
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  Speaker 1: it just kind of goes into the collection of of review.
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  Speaker 1: So on the field, guys don't have to change what
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  Speaker 1: they're doing as much. But this is a big step.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if a coach can challenge a past interference call,
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  Speaker 1: that changes and could possibly change a whole lot later
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  Speaker 1: in games. You know, in big moments, in the final
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  Speaker 1: few minutes of a football game. Oh, no doubt, they're
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  Speaker 1: huge penalties because they're spot foils. So you're talking about
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  Speaker 1: something that I mean, it's not fifteen yards a lot
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  Speaker 1: of times, it's thirty five yards. In big situations, it's
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  Speaker 1: guys taking shots on third and eight and suddenly an
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  Speaker 1: incomplete pass where you think you get off the field,
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  Speaker 1: the flag comes in two seconds later and it's a
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  Speaker 1: first down twenty yards down the field. So yeah, it'll
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  Speaker 1: be really interesting. I mean, I think it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: another thing, which is always the case of the NFL
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  Speaker 1: when they change something, is there's backlash and people are
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  Speaker 1: complaining about the length of games and why was this
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  Speaker 1: a foul? Why was it not a foul. I could
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  Speaker 1: totally tell on this and replay that this was past
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  Speaker 1: interference and it still wasn't. It's not gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: perfect system, but at least there's some checks and balances
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  Speaker 1: in place, because obviously, anybody who watched the nstitil a
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  Speaker 1: game just such an egregious, you know outcome. If that
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  Speaker 1: happened in Jacksonville, they'd be freaking storming down Bay Street
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  Speaker 1: with their pitchforks, and rightfully so. And it's lucky that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, New Orleans didn't end up ripped off into
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  Speaker 1: the ocean. But I like it. I like to check
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  Speaker 1: and balances, but it's not gonna be a flawless system. No,
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  Speaker 1: And you know, time, to me does not matter. I
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  Speaker 1: just want them to get it right. I mean, at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the you know, one of the greatest
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  Speaker 1: events of the years of college basketball tournament, and you
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  Speaker 1: go to the last two minutes of the game, it
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  Speaker 1: takes twenty five minutes to play. I mean, you got fouls,
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  Speaker 1: you got time out, you get all the reviews. Now
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  Speaker 1: they're always going the new rule the Institute a few
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  Speaker 1: years ago, they're going and they're looking at the video
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  Speaker 1: replay to see if it was inbounds or out of bounds.
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  Speaker 1: It takes forever, and I think it really kind of
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  Speaker 1: ruins the game. I've never felt that way about football.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, let's get it right. I'm on the year
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  Speaker 1: last night, I'm watching the game and I see it's
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  Speaker 1: an obvious past interference call, yet they challenge it anyway.
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  Speaker 1: So I think there is going to be somewhat ridiculous
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  Speaker 1: at times, and it will be a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: time consuming. I'm willing to accept that. I think most
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  Speaker 1: NFL fans will as well, as long as they get
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  Speaker 1: the call correct. Interesting stuff, guys. It was great that
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  Speaker 1: VIC fan Jeff said he was going to be the
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  Speaker 1: first one to challenge an OPI or dp I and
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  Speaker 1: he did, and it was like completely unnecessary and he
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  Speaker 1: was just like, I'm doing I had a kidney stone,
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  Speaker 1: I was in the hospital today. I am throwing this
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  Speaker 1: freaking challenge flag on history book with the kidneys or
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  Speaker 1: anything like that. He'd be the one guy that would
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  Speaker 1: want to get off his I'm gonna throw the flag anyway.
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  Speaker 1: I love it, man. Alright, so we're all going to Baltimore.
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  Speaker 1: Here we go off day on Saturday, and then the
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  Speaker 1: team's heading up on Sunday and finally some work against
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  Speaker 1: another Jersey. It seems like everybody's pretty fired up about
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  Speaker 1: that around here. Yeah, I mean I think so it's
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  Speaker 1: always good to see something different. We haven't gotten a
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  Speaker 1: good training camp fight here, but as you get which
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  Speaker 1: I you know, we can start. Now everybody knows your
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  Speaker 1: training camp fight. I got my phone charge ready to
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  Speaker 1: video anything. But but yeah, we haven't seen that. But certainly,
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  Speaker 1: you know, sort of temper start to flare. You get
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  Speaker 1: tired of, you know, hitting the same way across from
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  Speaker 1: a day after day. And I thought Josh Allen had
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  Speaker 1: a good point yesterday is that, you know, he's sort
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  Speaker 1: of done the same things day after day here and
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  Speaker 1: he sort of knows how it works. But until you
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  Speaker 1: do it against other people outside of the building, outside
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  Speaker 1: of the organization, you sort of wonder, okay, am I good?
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  Speaker 1: Do I need to improve? This? Is this something that
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  Speaker 1: I'm not so good at? But this just sort of
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  Speaker 1: affirms where you need to improve where you actually are
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  Speaker 1: pretty good. And you know, for young guys especially, and
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  Speaker 1: a guy like Josh Allen, I'm gonna be fascinated to
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  Speaker 1: watch sort of how he stacks up against Baltimore's guys. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot of fun. I love it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the last couple of years has been Uh,
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  Speaker 1: really a lot of fun to watch and go up
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  Speaker 1: against different teams. Two years ago when Foxborough was really
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  Speaker 1: amazing about how you could see some deficiencies on the
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  Speaker 1: football team and also some strengths. And last year in
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  Speaker 1: Minnesota where the expectations for them after getting Kirk Cousins
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  Speaker 1: is that maybe they were the team to beat in
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  Speaker 1: the NFC, and I thought it was a really interesting
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  Speaker 1: couple of days of work there. So I love the
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  Speaker 1: fact that you get a chance to take on another
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  Speaker 1: NFL team. I don't know about you, guys, but sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it's really hard to consistently evaluate or analyze what's going
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  Speaker 1: on when you're seeing the same guys work against each other.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there is a drop off, but it's not
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  Speaker 1: like the college game where there's a huge drop off
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  Speaker 1: between you know, a red shirt freshman and a in
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  Speaker 1: a in a proven senior junior. So I love the
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  Speaker 1: fact that going to Baltimore it should be a blast
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: out there. Steam blue Crabs on the menu coming up
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: the good to see you guys. Philip Hailman from the
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  Speaker 1: Athletic Rick Blue Tin to next Sel'll see you guys
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  Speaker 1: in Baltimore. Appreciate your time. Thanks JP thanks