Latest / Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge / Two T’s Getting the Tea with CARLOS KING
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Melancamps and Tamra Jedge. Hi, guys,
- 0:14Speaker 1: welcome back to to Cheese and a Pod with myself,
- 0:16Speaker 1: Teddy Mellencamp and Tarra Judge. Today we have one of
- 0:20Speaker 1: my most favorite people on me, Carlos King. He's amazing.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Have you actually talked to him before? No, this will
- 0:28Speaker 1: be my first first time. Your podcast with him was incredible.
- 0:33Speaker 1: He has been a producer on so many amazing shows,
- 0:37Speaker 1: from Real Housewives to Atlanta to Jersey to you. He's
- 0:41Speaker 1: got his own new show now, Don't Be Party. I
- 0:45Speaker 1: mean well, we got to ask him if he will
- 0:47Speaker 1: have us both on his new talk show. Oh we should, Yeah,
- 0:50Speaker 1: I think very fun. Well, hello, they are hello handsome,
- 0:55Speaker 1: Hi beauty. Carlos and I have become very close sweet
- 0:59Speaker 1: text often right brag here like best friends. So it's
- 1:05Speaker 1: gonna be two teas and once see you and t
- 1:09Speaker 1: in a pod. Carlos, speaking of the Twats and the
- 1:14Speaker 1: c un Teese, we had to address something. I listened
- 1:19Speaker 1: to your interview with Dave Quinn and I feel like
- 1:21Speaker 1: you were trying to come at me a little bit.
- 1:24Speaker 1: I felt a little bit. Yes, Well, because Dave Quinn
- 1:30Speaker 1: was saying, matter of factly, Teddy has her accountability business.
- 1:36Speaker 1: And then you were like, well you caught with Drew
- 1:39Speaker 1: and that kind of and I think Dave Quinn was
- 1:41Speaker 1: actually complimenting me, like it was like she did it first, Carlo,
- 1:47Speaker 1: She's coming after my girl. And you were like, and
- 1:51Speaker 1: I was like, oh, hell, I'm gonna give it to him.
- 1:53Speaker 1: You don't want you don't want to. After you asked
- 1:55Speaker 1: Heather to Brooke fancy pants. No, Teddy, Teddy, Dave and
- 2:03Speaker 1: I are like this close. I don't know where he's
- 2:07Speaker 1: being funny, shady or real, because I thought he was
- 2:10Speaker 1: gonna throw shape and I was I was blocking him
- 2:13Speaker 1: from trying to do it. So I apologize if you
- 2:15Speaker 1: took it that way. Oh Teddy, I'm I'm a Teddy
- 2:18Speaker 1: camper like cancer. I was like, he's coming on. I
- 2:25Speaker 1: liked him, but now I see he was trying to
- 2:26Speaker 1: make fun of my No, I would never do that
- 2:30Speaker 1: to you. If somebody comes for Teddy, they're dead. They're
- 2:34Speaker 1: dead to her. You come for her, you're dead, ask camera.
- 2:38Speaker 1: I love your podcast and I even I even tell Tamera,
- 2:42Speaker 1: I said, it was such a weird surprise that you
- 2:46Speaker 1: two were doing it, and then the other surprise was
- 2:49Speaker 1: how good it is? Like because I didn't know. The
- 2:53Speaker 1: thing is, I didn't know you too have this chemistry.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Well we do. So many people say you should be
- 2:58Speaker 1: doing this with Vicky. People tell me that all the time.
- 3:01Speaker 1: Love Vicky, but I feel like two housewives from different um,
- 3:06Speaker 1: you know, franchises kind of work better. Everybody knows me
- 3:09Speaker 1: and Vicky together. I'd love to do something else. What
- 3:12Speaker 1: do the perfect fit? What do you think? Listen? I
- 3:15Speaker 1: love Vicky two. It was smart for you to branch
- 3:17Speaker 1: off because you never want to be tied down to
- 3:19Speaker 1: one person, right like for example, people think it's the
- 3:22Speaker 1: Kyle and Teddy show. People think it's the Biggie and
- 3:25Speaker 1: Tamar show. And although although initially you think like, oh,
- 3:30Speaker 1: why didn't Dickie and Tamara do this, when I've heard
- 3:34Speaker 1: um your conversation with Vickie Tamera and how she was
- 3:38Speaker 1: disgusted that you did it with Teddy, it made sense
- 3:41Speaker 1: because I love Vicky, but I think Vicky would have
- 3:44Speaker 1: made it the Vickie Show. Yes, well, do you guys
- 3:47Speaker 1: want to have a little laugh here? Because so I'm
- 3:50Speaker 1: friends with Amy Phillips, you know, her podcast whatever. So
- 3:54Speaker 1: she sent me, well, I had somebody sent me this
- 3:56Speaker 1: meme and then she voiced over at it. So I'm
- 3:59Speaker 1: gonna try to play you guys hopefully, hopefully all can
- 4:01Speaker 1: hear it and see it. So that's Vicky right there.
- 4:05Speaker 1: Oh of a sudden, you wake up a body go,
- 4:13Speaker 1: oh my god, I love it. She just to call
- 4:15Speaker 1: Gretchen's name and put mine. I was like, I loveby.
- 4:21Speaker 1: She's so genius. That one's so good. So we have
- 4:26Speaker 1: you know, we have to start grilling you, ask all
- 4:28Speaker 1: the things. Um, you're a master when it comes to
- 4:32Speaker 1: reading people and knowing what makes great television. Tell us
- 4:36Speaker 1: where that instinct comes comes from. It comes from me
- 4:40Speaker 1: being this nosey gay boy up under my mother watching
- 4:43Speaker 1: endless hours of soap Opera US and the Oprah Winfrey Show.
- 4:48Speaker 1: So that was that was my homework assignment. And then
- 4:51Speaker 1: I majored in journalism and media communications in college. Again,
- 4:57Speaker 1: if I'm going to be nosy, I need to get
- 4:59Speaker 1: pay for my services. So that's what propelled me to
- 5:04Speaker 1: really be somebody who just loves information. And then after
- 5:08Speaker 1: entering at the view, let me tell you something, You
- 5:11Speaker 1: housewives have nothing on the View co host. The stuff
- 5:15Speaker 1: that happens on the view, behind the scenes is the
- 5:19Speaker 1: real show. The first person that ever came at me
- 5:23Speaker 1: when I was a househld like, people liked me in
- 5:25Speaker 1: my first season, shockingly enough, except for Megan McCain. She
- 5:29Speaker 1: was like out for blood. Yeah, she's very opinionated. Ye,
- 5:34Speaker 1: it's funny. It's funny. She and I are are our
- 5:37Speaker 1: friends and uh. But to Megan's credit, she I think
- 5:43Speaker 1: she apologized steady. It even said, like, you know, you should.
- 5:48Speaker 1: Here's the thing, I take myself a lot less seriously
- 5:53Speaker 1: than I did when I first started the show. So
- 5:55Speaker 1: I'm able to realize that people I can walk now
- 5:58Speaker 1: that I'm not on the show. I can watch the
- 6:00Speaker 1: show and like somebody one week and not like them
- 6:03Speaker 1: the next and no, that's okay, Like it is going
- 6:06Speaker 1: to yeah, and I think, listen, I think your first season.
- 6:09Speaker 1: I always tell people this first season Housewife, it's sort
- 6:13Speaker 1: of like core play, right, You're trying to like get
- 6:18Speaker 1: your groove going, understand your d spots. It's but the
- 6:22Speaker 1: problem is it's like sober for play, Like you're not
- 6:25Speaker 1: full throttle. You're just like should I should? It? Just
- 6:29Speaker 1: the tip the whole honey. When you're Tamera, you come
- 6:32Speaker 1: in hunting with the order. I I was gonna disagree
- 6:35Speaker 1: with you there when I came out hot as hell
- 6:37Speaker 1: and the drunk, I was the yeah yeah. The more
- 6:40Speaker 1: I think, I think, let me tell you, Teddy this,
- 6:43Speaker 1: You're talking to a producer who did not work with you,
- 6:45Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tell you as somebody who worked on
- 6:47Speaker 1: Jersey and Atlanta to very different shows, but but very
- 6:51Speaker 1: successful UM shows as well. The organic friendship you have
- 6:55Speaker 1: a Kyle to me was very very good because we
- 7:00Speaker 1: love to see real friendships. I think that disconnect came
- 7:03Speaker 1: because you appeared to second guess everything that was happening
- 7:09Speaker 1: around you. My favorite moment from you, Teddy is when
- 7:13Speaker 1: you checked Erica Jayne, but the moment she checked you back,
- 7:17Speaker 1: you shut down. And then my other favorite moment of yours,
- 7:20Speaker 1: it's where you told that these riches like I'm over
- 7:23Speaker 1: and I listen to your podcast. I knew that, but
- 7:25Speaker 1: produced for like somebody rebuild this bomb, but you did it.
- 7:29Speaker 1: I would say this, have given enough opportunity to do
- 7:32Speaker 1: that show or any other reality show. Trust your instinct.
- 7:35Speaker 1: I thought you were great on Big Brother. Thank you know,
- 7:38Speaker 1: so I know you have it in you. Well I can.
- 7:42Speaker 1: I feel like this is therapy now, and I can
- 7:44Speaker 1: tell you why. Um. I have always been one of
- 7:48Speaker 1: those people that, um, I am fine to go on
- 7:51Speaker 1: a debate and talk, but if somebody uses a certain
- 7:54Speaker 1: tone of voice with me, it might be something from
- 7:56Speaker 1: my childhood, like some sort of trauma ship like that
- 7:59Speaker 1: I show down. I don't know how to handle it.
- 8:02Speaker 1: And so there's a certain that where like I've now
- 8:07Speaker 1: housewives have taught me how to like be able to
- 8:10Speaker 1: speak up for myself and continue on because now, I mean, hell,
- 8:14Speaker 1: I'll be at Gilson's and someone who's root for Rudi men,
- 8:16Speaker 1: I'm like, let's go. You know. But I didn't have
- 8:19Speaker 1: that in me, you know, I had that like timidness
- 8:22Speaker 1: that I've now matured into. But also you're right, I
- 8:25Speaker 1: was second guessing myself and I finally it's taken me,
- 8:28Speaker 1: you know, a long time a life. Not everyone's gonna
- 8:30Speaker 1: like you, and that's okay, It's okay. I tell people
- 8:35Speaker 1: all the time, and me and Tamara have this conversation
- 8:37Speaker 1: as well. Personally and professionally. Twitter is not the real world.
- 8:42Speaker 1: It's all about algorithms. You follow based on your likes
- 8:47Speaker 1: and and people who have the same opinion as you.
- 8:50Speaker 1: So if you're flooded. For example, if I'm a viewer
- 8:53Speaker 1: and I love Kyle, which I said this to Tamara,
- 8:56Speaker 1: Kyle is my favorite housewife because to me, she plays
- 9:00Speaker 1: the game well and she's genuine. If I'm a Kyle fan,
- 9:04Speaker 1: I'm going to like everything that's a compliment of Kyle.
- 9:07Speaker 1: So I'm going to believe that the people around my
- 9:09Speaker 1: Twitter feed, we love Kyle until you step on the
- 9:12Speaker 1: bread world. And I did a podcast in last week
- 9:15Speaker 1: and the gay say we hate Kyle. We were well
- 9:18Speaker 1: LVP stands and I said, oh no, honey. So anyway,
- 9:23Speaker 1: so you're like, oh, so you have a dog as
- 9:24Speaker 1: a profile picture and no followers, and that's the teddy.
- 9:30Speaker 1: I want to feed back on Selim. She's got it
- 9:32Speaker 1: in her. She does, but she overthinks herself, Like, yes,
- 9:39Speaker 1: let's remember I was pregnant my third season and I
- 9:42Speaker 1: still was able to throw the final punch. So let's
- 9:45Speaker 1: you were. I felt like you were your best your
- 9:47Speaker 1: last season and then you still got them too. How
- 9:49Speaker 1: much I was shocked. I'm gonna be honest with you.
- 9:51Speaker 1: I'm a producer. I was shocked you with let Go,
- 9:54Speaker 1: because hey, you were the driving force behind the revelation
- 9:58Speaker 1: that Deniz Richards. In my opinion, I believe she disleeve
- 10:02Speaker 1: lived Brandy Allegedly she said she didn't. That's why I
- 10:05Speaker 1: believe what I want to believe. But secondly, um, there
- 10:08Speaker 1: was the scandal going on with you in your business,
- 10:11Speaker 1: and as a viewer, I was like, I really want
- 10:14Speaker 1: to see how Teddy handles the scandal, and I wanted
- 10:17Speaker 1: I felt robbed. I felt robbed as a viewer that
- 10:21Speaker 1: we weren't able to see that scandal because no disrespect
- 10:25Speaker 1: to anybody, but I was I'm into the Erica James scandal.
- 10:29Speaker 1: I meant, what's happening with the ree? I meant to
- 10:31Speaker 1: what's happy? You know? I wanted to see how you
- 10:33Speaker 1: were going to explain your business, and I that it's
- 10:40Speaker 1: important for all of us, Like for us housewives that
- 10:43Speaker 1: actually do have businesses, they are gonna be high as
- 10:46Speaker 1: they are gonna be lows. Like there were days like
- 10:48Speaker 1: I was sobbing, like I was like, my life, I
- 10:50Speaker 1: don't know how I'm going to continue on because the
- 10:53Speaker 1: stranger is attacking my business and people are believing her,
- 10:56Speaker 1: and then there was I was hiring, you know, going
- 11:00Speaker 1: out and hiring crisis managers, and like, there was so
- 11:03Speaker 1: much going on that if I would have been able
- 11:06Speaker 1: to talk about it would have been so much more
- 11:09Speaker 1: freeing instead of having to clam up in the world
- 11:11Speaker 1: of social media, pretend that it didn't exist and not
- 11:15Speaker 1: be like as somebody watching the show, I would have
- 11:18Speaker 1: wanted to know how to handle it because there's gonna
- 11:20Speaker 1: be situations that come up in business where people have
- 11:23Speaker 1: to get through ship and you definitely deserved another. That's
- 11:26Speaker 1: what I want to see wives like. I love it
- 11:29Speaker 1: when you see an authentic drama, whether it's marriage or
- 11:33Speaker 1: business or I don't want to see anybody else get divorced.
- 11:36Speaker 1: I'm so sick of seeing that. No over it to remodel.
- 11:41Speaker 1: I don't give a about your remodel. I don't. Yeah,
- 11:44Speaker 1: I don't care there. I don't care about a divorce,
- 11:49Speaker 1: a demolition. No, And I don't care about a renewing
- 11:53Speaker 1: of the valve like I don't want to see anybody
- 11:55Speaker 1: renewers married on TV. Tam, I didn't renew my I
- 11:59Speaker 1: was on TV. I got married on TV and I'm
- 12:02Speaker 1: still married. And she had a wedding special. Honey, Yeah,
- 12:06Speaker 1: maybe I should. Maybe I should look for a third
- 12:08Speaker 1: husband so I can get on TV again. Okay, who's
- 12:24Speaker 1: your favorite housewife you've ever worked with? Gonna give me trouble, Um,
- 12:29Speaker 1: I would say it's a three weight tie. Okay? Is that? Okay? Tony? No,
- 12:38Speaker 1: you want one to me? Here who it is? And
- 12:40Speaker 1: then I'm gonna decipher Nini king Ishai. Okay, SKay that.
- 12:47Speaker 1: What are your honest thoughts on Kenya? Do you think
- 12:50Speaker 1: that she seems different at all this season? Okay? I
- 12:55Speaker 1: think Kenya based on what I'm seeing so far, I've
- 12:59Speaker 1: only seen two episode of the Atlanta Housewives, that was
- 13:01Speaker 1: it right? Based on what I've seen, I think Kenya
- 13:06Speaker 1: misses the old um, the old guard. I think she
- 13:11Speaker 1: isn't interested in what this Newfound Housewives franchise is becoming.
- 13:16Speaker 1: I think Kenya. I will go on record saying this
- 13:19Speaker 1: about Kenya working with her for many seasons. She is
- 13:23Speaker 1: determined to make a good show. She's determined to be real,
- 13:28Speaker 1: she's determined to be honest, and I think Kenya looks
- 13:32Speaker 1: at what's happening around her and everything feels stage and
- 13:35Speaker 1: set up. And people are looking for a moment. You
- 13:38Speaker 1: two know this. There's nothing worse than a housewife who's
- 13:43Speaker 1: purposefully looking for a moment, because it takes away from
- 13:47Speaker 1: the genuine nature of this social experiment in terms of
- 13:52Speaker 1: how can these women navigate through these troubled waters and
- 13:55Speaker 1: friendships by being authentic to each other? And I think
- 13:59Speaker 1: the authenticity it's missing from that show. No, do you
- 14:02Speaker 1: like the current cast or do you think they could
- 14:04Speaker 1: do better? No? No, I don't. I don't like the
- 14:08Speaker 1: current set up. No. I think some people should go
- 14:11Speaker 1: and some people should come back. So who do you
- 14:13Speaker 1: should go? And who do you should come back? I
- 14:16Speaker 1: just say who? Do you just say? Who do you
- 14:17Speaker 1: think should come back? No? I want to know who?
- 14:21Speaker 1: And he said, no, I know. Listen, I'll say this much.
- 14:26Speaker 1: I okay, I'll say this Atlanta Housewife is at his
- 14:32Speaker 1: best with the original women and not the original season one.
- 14:37Speaker 1: You want to see Nini, you want to see um
- 14:41Speaker 1: horse Shot, You want to see Pedro as somebody who
- 14:45Speaker 1: was involved in that show for I did eight seasons.
- 14:49Speaker 1: I did seasons one through four and then six through nine.
- 14:54Speaker 1: The beauty of that show, guys, was these women were
- 14:59Speaker 1: really playing. And even if they did not get along
- 15:02Speaker 1: every day, they had and you two can speak to this,
- 15:06Speaker 1: there was this unselfing camaraderie and and respect Kenya and
- 15:12Speaker 1: Pedro would have. They don't want to be friends in
- 15:15Speaker 1: terms of like besties, but they respected that you're great
- 15:19Speaker 1: at with your job, I'm great at mine. When we
- 15:21Speaker 1: come together is so interesting and odd. Let's have fun
- 15:25Speaker 1: with it, Let's enjoy each other. And when I'm seeing
- 15:28Speaker 1: now with the new crop of women, it takes a
- 15:32Speaker 1: long time to have an organic friendship. And the reason
- 15:35Speaker 1: why I think O C did not have a great
- 15:38Speaker 1: season is because and I said, it's a camera. There's
- 15:42Speaker 1: no way in hell Heather is kicking out with Gina
- 15:46Speaker 1: or Emily or any of those women. And and and
- 15:49Speaker 1: this is when you know some ship is faith. Any
- 15:52Speaker 1: time in Housewife as a party, and she said, I'm
- 15:55Speaker 1: inviting my friends and her friends, all of these people
- 16:00Speaker 1: that aren't cast members. She's not PRIs with the cast.
- 16:03Speaker 1: And and when when it came to the old OC,
- 16:06Speaker 1: you had Bicky, you had camera, He've been Tamara and
- 16:09Speaker 1: Gretchen hated each other's guts, but they both respected each
- 16:12Speaker 1: other like bitch you're good and and and let's let's
- 16:16Speaker 1: go exist. You know. Yeah, that's that's when my biggest
- 16:22Speaker 1: issue with watching o C this past season as well,
- 16:25Speaker 1: and watching Atlanta, I feel like these because you know
- 16:29Speaker 1: what what we're supposed to be, well, I'm feeling like
- 16:34Speaker 1: it's a little bit like OC currently. I mean, I
- 16:37Speaker 1: mean I personally hadn't watched it since back in the
- 16:39Speaker 1: Phaedre days, which I loved it back then, and then
- 16:42Speaker 1: the cast started changing, then I stopped watching. And um,
- 16:45Speaker 1: now I've gotten to know Padre after doing the Girls Trip,
- 16:47Speaker 1: and I love her so much, such big energy. I
- 16:50Speaker 1: wish she was back on the show. Um, I don't
- 16:53Speaker 1: I think it's horrible. I mean, I'm I now I'm
- 16:55Speaker 1: starting to get to know these girls. I love Shrey, Yes,
- 17:00Speaker 1: love her. Um, I don't know. I think I think
- 17:03Speaker 1: the ratings are going to go up as they continue.
- 17:06Speaker 1: I'm over the Drew and the Rex record with Ralph,
- 17:10Speaker 1: the whole situation. I mean, it looks so to me.
- 17:14Speaker 1: I don't know if it is, but it looks staged.
- 17:17Speaker 1: Every single scene they had to talk about his assistant
- 17:20Speaker 1: in the massage and all that stuff, and I'm like,
- 17:22Speaker 1: why do we we're beating a dead horse right here?
- 17:24Speaker 1: What are we doing? Right? I'm talking to two housewives.
- 17:28Speaker 1: And then what's funny is a lot of people don't
- 17:30Speaker 1: respect the houseboats opinion because they feel like whatever, you
- 17:33Speaker 1: don't know if you're if I'm a green as an
- 17:36Speaker 1: established producer who has produced reality since two thousand eight,
- 17:41Speaker 1: what you two just said is how I feel one percent.
- 17:44Speaker 1: When I watched Drew and Wrap SCE, I think they
- 17:47Speaker 1: both are um um um prepping each other before they shoot.
- 17:54Speaker 1: I think they're saying, I'm gonna do this, You're gonna
- 17:56Speaker 1: do that, the way they had that dinner scene, and
- 18:00Speaker 1: I see a smirk and Wrap when he's talking to her.
- 18:03Speaker 1: When Drew, when Drew got up and gave a Lifetime
- 18:07Speaker 1: Movie of the Week performance here, yes and stood and
- 18:11Speaker 1: stood and and and look camera right and her dancing
- 18:14Speaker 1: with the Stars outfit, Yes, her for her for assistance
- 18:20Speaker 1: is And that's the problem. If I wasn't producing on
- 18:23Speaker 1: that show, I would have said I'm not filming with
- 18:26Speaker 1: you for a week. When I was producing the show,
- 18:31Speaker 1: if I felt you were phoning it in or you
- 18:34Speaker 1: weren't being real, I would take you off the schedule.
- 18:36Speaker 1: For a week and say come back to me when
- 18:38Speaker 1: you're ready to be honest. But now, who do you
- 18:40Speaker 1: think is doing a good job the new housewife? Like
- 18:43Speaker 1: that scene between her mom and her sister where they
- 18:46Speaker 1: get an argument over the food. That's like a true
- 18:50Speaker 1: actual like they got pissed. Like to me. I watched
- 18:54Speaker 1: that and I was like, that actually does happen. You'll
- 18:56Speaker 1: label your stuff you want it like you can start
- 18:59Speaker 1: to see that. I feel like she's going to be
- 19:01Speaker 1: authentic anything. Yeah, I think she's the new Candy. I
- 19:05Speaker 1: think she's somebody that has a a wealth of family
- 19:09Speaker 1: drama that's around the corner um. And I think she's
- 19:13Speaker 1: somebody obviously who's accomplished. So there's a lot to go there.
- 19:18Speaker 1: But listen, like I said, I I will admit I
- 19:21Speaker 1: missed the old days. Uh when this is the problem.
- 19:26Speaker 1: It takes a long time to establish friendships with housewives
- 19:32Speaker 1: mid season. So one thing that Beverly Hills did so
- 19:35Speaker 1: well is you know they kept although they have this
- 19:40Speaker 1: rotation device with the with the housewives, at least it
- 19:43Speaker 1: came from organic places. For example, when Garth Sta came
- 19:46Speaker 1: on twenty year friendship believe Serrenda twenty year friendship with
- 19:50Speaker 1: Denise Richards, So it wasn't like she was plopped up
- 19:53Speaker 1: and said joined this past. She was friends with them.
- 19:56Speaker 1: You and Kyle having a real friendship. I enjoyed the
- 20:01Speaker 1: podcast episode when it was you, Erica, Lisa, marn and Kyle.
- 20:05Speaker 1: You can't fake that. And the biggest misconception about Um
- 20:09Speaker 1: Housewives did people love to see the fun and the
- 20:13Speaker 1: organic friendships more than the drama. They like the drama,
- 20:17Speaker 1: but if we can see more comedic moments like the
- 20:21Speaker 1: trades of megas like those, those are the memorable stuff
- 20:25Speaker 1: that people love to see. And I think Beverly Hills,
- 20:28Speaker 1: in my opinion, they have never well let me not
- 20:32Speaker 1: say that, because when they hired the witch Enjoy they
- 20:35Speaker 1: did miss the mark. But they haven't made many mistakes
- 20:39Speaker 1: on that show. Haven't mistakes. Now Orange County is a
- 20:43Speaker 1: totally different thing. There's been so many mistakes with costing.
- 20:46Speaker 1: And I had talked to the producer one time and
- 20:49Speaker 1: he told me, he said, listen, if I have to
- 20:50Speaker 1: cast Beverly Hills, it's easy. There's a bazilion very wealthy
- 20:54Speaker 1: girls that want to be on TV, lots of actresses.
- 20:57Speaker 1: You come to Orange County. There's a lot of wealthy people,
- 20:59Speaker 1: but they're very private and they don't do not want
- 21:03Speaker 1: to share their wealth or come onto reality show. So hey, admitute,
- 21:06Speaker 1: it's very tough to care. What you said. Some carry
- 21:09Speaker 1: very important there. Yes, Beverly Hills is filled with actresses
- 21:14Speaker 1: that want to come on, but actually rich people that
- 21:17Speaker 1: aren't actresses. It's hard to because somebody. So that's why
- 21:20Speaker 1: I think Diana, which will be the new cast member
- 21:23Speaker 1: this season, is going to be excellent television. She's not
- 21:26Speaker 1: somebody who is an actress, because regardless if you're an actress,
- 21:31Speaker 1: you still have a different Like Denise would come on set,
- 21:35Speaker 1: on set, she would come to film and where's Craft Services?
- 21:40Speaker 1: And we're like craft, that's funny, what's our break? We
- 21:47Speaker 1: don't break when someone breaks. Yeah, I think it's I
- 21:51Speaker 1: think it's a wrong I think it's a total wrong
- 21:53Speaker 1: move to get an actress that's actually still acting. If
- 21:56Speaker 1: you like, and they found somebody that was a child
- 22:00Speaker 1: of the actress or something like that, or it hasn't
- 22:01Speaker 1: acted in twenty years, then okay. But I think actresses
- 22:05Speaker 1: have a hard time, you know, switching between reality and acting. Yeah,
- 22:10Speaker 1: when I work. When I worked with Kim Fields on Atlanta, Um,
- 22:14Speaker 1: I forgot she was on I know, listen, I think
- 22:17Speaker 1: Kim Fields forgot two girls. So no, when Kim Fields
- 22:21Speaker 1: but on the show. I remember this moment when she
- 22:25Speaker 1: and Kenya had this this very intense argument and Kim
- 22:30Speaker 1: feels fired off set the restaurant and I'm like, who
- 22:36Speaker 1: do you want to talk to about this? She said,
- 22:39Speaker 1: I would love to call Andy Cohen on camera. I said,
- 22:43Speaker 1: Kim Fields, Andy Cohen does not exist in this bubble
- 22:48Speaker 1: that we call him in the Housewives. But wait, that's
- 22:51Speaker 1: my real life. I really called him. I said, you
- 22:53Speaker 1: don't have any housewives, will love to call Kim. I
- 22:54Speaker 1: mean Andy Coman, No talk to your husband. At least.
- 22:58Speaker 1: It was hard for her to unders saying that reality
- 23:01Speaker 1: is this and acting is that, but the beauty of
- 23:05Speaker 1: her is She was like she quit. She said, this
- 23:07Speaker 1: isn't me. And I appreciated that because she realized this
- 23:11Speaker 1: is a whole different world of television that I'm not
- 23:14Speaker 1: familiar with. But then look at Lisa Wrenna. She was
- 23:17Speaker 1: actress and she was born to be a reality star,
- 23:21Speaker 1: but she's not just an actress. She is like before everything.
- 23:25Speaker 1: She's a performer, right, and she is entertaining and she's
- 23:28Speaker 1: just and I will say she's more likable and more
- 23:32Speaker 1: entertaining even off camera, like her at my birthday. It's
- 23:37Speaker 1: just like my friends that didn't you know, weren't part
- 23:40Speaker 1: of the show. We're like crying laughing at Ren like
- 23:42Speaker 1: they're like, she has big energy and that's what it
- 23:45Speaker 1: takes energy. She has big balls, like she's she's all.
- 23:48Speaker 1: I love her. She was, she was, she was one
- 23:50Speaker 1: of the greatest cath and choices her. I think Garth
- 23:53Speaker 1: Sale is a great addition. Um I I do think
- 23:59Speaker 1: Garcia is finding her way on that show now without
- 24:02Speaker 1: the knees and and and and her fractured friendship with Lisa.
- 24:06Speaker 1: I her friendship is Sutton to me, is is odd.
- 24:10Speaker 1: My dream and let me ask you about this. My
- 24:13Speaker 1: dream for Garcel is that she will start saying the
- 24:17Speaker 1: things that she says in her confessionals to the people's faces.
- 24:22Speaker 1: I agree, because I think she's kind a one ft in,
- 24:24Speaker 1: one foot out, like yeah, she had touched and she's
- 24:27Speaker 1: a little passive aggressive with the person to their they're
- 24:29Speaker 1: just not ballsy enough to say it to their face.
- 24:31Speaker 1: And she just freaking So I'm gonna say something to
- 24:35Speaker 1: you guys, the black community, we were not happy when
- 24:41Speaker 1: um Lisa Wrenna yelled at her, or to read somebody
- 24:44Speaker 1: yelled at her. I think of li Sa Wrenna and
- 24:48Speaker 1: Garcela just stood there. We're like, what do you what
- 24:52Speaker 1: do you do? Hang like girl? If you stand up
- 24:55Speaker 1: for yourself, stand up for yourself like Garcela, We're rooting
- 24:58Speaker 1: for you. We're happy in the first Black Parker, Biblly Gills.
- 25:01Speaker 1: You have to stand up for yourself. You have to.
- 25:03Speaker 1: But don't you think that that's a lot of pressure
- 25:05Speaker 1: for her. I think it would be a lot of pressure,
- 25:08Speaker 1: Like how am I supposed to act? I don't want
- 25:10Speaker 1: to come aroung across a certain way. I feel like
- 25:12Speaker 1: I would be in my head so much. I'm gonna
- 25:14Speaker 1: say this to you then then don't do reality Look
- 25:17Speaker 1: at Kenya Moore. Kenya Moore came in strong. I mean,
- 25:21Speaker 1: we're talking about a woman who was you know, Miss
- 25:24Speaker 1: USA and and did a lot of acting too. But
- 25:29Speaker 1: you can't make the choice to be on reality TV
- 25:33Speaker 1: and question how to be authentic like Kenya did not
- 25:38Speaker 1: wear the weight of the pageant community on her shoulders. Um.
- 25:42Speaker 1: I had a conversation with y K Williams about representation
- 25:45Speaker 1: in New York City and so much so she changed
- 25:49Speaker 1: my mind about who she was on that show. We
- 25:51Speaker 1: love Garcela, We're rooting for Garcel. We do believe that
- 25:55Speaker 1: Garcela needs to speak up more and send up for
- 25:57Speaker 1: herself and stop hiding behind the confession and those figure shades. Yeah,
- 26:02Speaker 1: because I think, yeah, they're health serious, they're good, they
- 26:05Speaker 1: resonate well with people. But like, I need you in
- 26:07Speaker 1: the mix, and I want to feel authentic friendships with
- 26:11Speaker 1: her and the other girls. And I'm trying to go in.
- 26:14Speaker 1: People are like, you know, Teddy, you're part of the
- 26:15Speaker 1: Fox Sports five, so you're you know, you're not gonna understand.
- 26:19Speaker 1: I want to be able to see the whole thing.
- 26:21Speaker 1: But I need to see real friendships. And I saw
- 26:24Speaker 1: how awkward the friendship was between Garcel and Sutton firsthand.
- 26:29Speaker 1: So the fact that so I'm telling the truth fan, yeah,
- 26:32Speaker 1: I mean, and it was so brutal, Like I was like,
- 26:35Speaker 1: these two people would never be friends. I don't buy it.
- 26:39Speaker 1: I don't I think they're friends. I'm gonna get a
- 26:42Speaker 1: lot of chupper saying this, But whatever, I believe in
- 26:46Speaker 1: our friends because they care about what Twitter saying. That's
- 26:49Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I think they're friends out of convenience
- 26:53Speaker 1: and because they know who's being hated on the most.
- 26:56Speaker 1: And that's what I That's where I'm having issues. All right,
- 27:09Speaker 1: So we are back. Um, one other question I had
- 27:13Speaker 1: before we get into recapping Atlanta is I can say
- 27:20Speaker 1: for myself, I know that TAM's the same. I thought
- 27:23Speaker 1: that my producer, who actually is no longer a producer
- 27:26Speaker 1: on Beverly Hills anymore, was honestly one of my best friends,
- 27:30Speaker 1: like I still do. We still text all the time,
- 27:32Speaker 1: Like I told him my deepest, darkest secrets, like he
- 27:36Speaker 1: was a bad move. Um, that's a bad do that.
- 27:41Speaker 1: How do you create that trust when you know ultimately
- 27:45Speaker 1: it's going to hurt us? Because you know, these producers
- 27:47Speaker 1: go through psychological they train them to just tell me anything,
- 27:53Speaker 1: tell me. So listen, I'm gonna tell you my my
- 27:57Speaker 1: my systems and my device. So for me, I always
- 28:02Speaker 1: tell my cast I can't get away lying to you.
- 28:07Speaker 1: So if I'm going to lie to you, it's gonna
- 28:10Speaker 1: come out. And then I lost your trust and it's
- 28:13Speaker 1: not worth it for me. But the biggest the biggest
- 28:16Speaker 1: mistake producers make are two things. Ay, they really become
- 28:21Speaker 1: friends with you, and they care about your friendship more
- 28:23Speaker 1: than a job. That's A and B. They don't understand
- 28:29Speaker 1: how to be honest with the reality star, like, just
- 28:32Speaker 1: be honest what people don't know guys, And and tell
- 28:37Speaker 1: me if I'm lying you love you would love me
- 28:40Speaker 1: more if I kept it real with you. If I
- 28:42Speaker 1: said to you camera, look, Mrs Boring can be talked
- 28:49Speaker 1: about this conversation. I can just please have it, Carlos, No,
- 28:53Speaker 1: I'm gonna look, I'm gonna look crazy. Would you rever
- 28:55Speaker 1: look crazy doing the scene? But would you rather look
- 28:58Speaker 1: crazy or in them a live right? Let me? I
- 29:03Speaker 1: would rather have a producer that was straightforward with me.
- 29:06Speaker 1: Didn't like me. We had producers execut piscers. It would
- 29:09Speaker 1: blatantly lie to your face and we just did it.
- 29:14Speaker 1: I didn't have that like we. He was always straightforward
- 29:17Speaker 1: with like me, Like he would say, listen, I'm gonna
- 29:20Speaker 1: tell you that it's not gonna look good later because
- 29:23Speaker 1: I know you're thinking something else. You've got to do this,
- 29:25Speaker 1: you know, you've got to speak up or whatever it was,
- 29:28Speaker 1: or if I was like I don't want to invite
- 29:30Speaker 1: this person, He's like, that's not the reality of the show.
- 29:33Speaker 1: You know, there were there were real yes you need that.
- 29:36Speaker 1: I had that. I'm still friends with me and Leaves.
- 29:39Speaker 1: I spoke to Nini yesterday. I'm I'm very close to
- 29:42Speaker 1: Kenya Cherre, Porsche, Me and Porsche were texting today. They
- 29:47Speaker 1: all said to me, we love you because you're honest
- 29:51Speaker 1: and because your intention is you want us to win.
- 29:55Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day, what people don't understand,
- 29:58Speaker 1: the reality stars makes more money than the producer. So
- 30:02Speaker 1: one thing I obvious tell my my cast is I
- 30:05Speaker 1: want you to win. I want you to make all
- 30:06Speaker 1: the money you can make. I'm here to make you great.
- 30:09Speaker 1: It's sort of like you guys are musical artists and
- 30:13Speaker 1: I'm the producer. I'm producing tracks to make you great.
- 30:16Speaker 1: I'm start I'm producing scenes with you to make you great.
- 30:21Speaker 1: So I never lied to my cast, and that's the
- 30:24Speaker 1: reason why what it's two thoughts. Fourteen years later, I'm
- 30:29Speaker 1: still close to the biggest reality star of housewives to me,
- 30:33Speaker 1: which is Minnie Leaks. Now, why did you choose to
- 30:36Speaker 1: walk away from Housewives. So the thing for me was
- 30:40Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that I had time to
- 30:44Speaker 1: focus on the company because I was out of place
- 30:47Speaker 1: in my career where I wanted to create shows versus
- 30:50Speaker 1: being a hired producer. So I and I was living
- 30:54Speaker 1: in Atlanta at the time. That's how dedicated I was
- 30:57Speaker 1: to that show. I left New York City moved to
- 30:59Speaker 1: Atlanta because I felt, in order for me to be
- 31:02Speaker 1: the best producer possible, I need to understand this city
- 31:06Speaker 1: and the people in the city. So I've lived in
- 31:08Speaker 1: Atlanta for for those years. And then season nine, I
- 31:14Speaker 1: remember looking at the women and they were so comfortable
- 31:17Speaker 1: and complacent, and I was so disturbed by how comfortable
- 31:23Speaker 1: they were. And I had to sit down conversation with
- 31:26Speaker 1: the cast and I said, I'm always going to get
- 31:30Speaker 1: a job. I'm going to be fine. It's hard for
- 31:33Speaker 1: an act reality starts to get a second chance. It's difficult.
- 31:37Speaker 1: So the only thing I'm asking for you guys is
- 31:41Speaker 1: to be real. Let's make a great show. And that
- 31:45Speaker 1: season was a frustrated season because I knew then. I said,
- 31:50Speaker 1: I can't do the show anymore because I'm losing focus
- 31:54Speaker 1: on my company. I left Atlanta, moved to l A
- 31:58Speaker 1: and I just thought that the girls were comfortable. So
- 32:01Speaker 1: damn when people started complaining after I left, this show sucks.
- 32:05Speaker 1: What happened? What happened? I saw, I saw the riding
- 32:08Speaker 1: on the wall. Yeah, well, let's recap Atlanta. You gotta
- 32:14Speaker 1: recap to hear your opinions on some of these things
- 32:17Speaker 1: that are going down in Atlanta. Sure we have the
- 32:21Speaker 1: Spark shows best moments. Say finds out an assistant she
- 32:26Speaker 1: uses occasionally is one of Drew's assistant. He tells Drew
- 32:30Speaker 1: that chari Owe some money and he shared SI's personal
- 32:34Speaker 1: business Withdrew. One thing about Okay, I just said to
- 32:42Speaker 1: you guys, I lived in Atlanta. One thing about assistance
- 32:46Speaker 1: for gland Squat not all. Some of them they're so
- 32:49Speaker 1: desperate to get on television. I was gonna say they
- 32:51Speaker 1: should not be filming. I if I was producing that season,
- 32:55Speaker 1: looked me and my eye, you would have never seen
- 32:57Speaker 1: that person. But ever on my I thought the same thing.
- 33:01Speaker 1: I'm like, why do we care and why is this?
- 33:04Speaker 1: But to me, it just made it. Yeah, it made
- 33:06Speaker 1: me sound like, oh, this guy just wants to get
- 33:07Speaker 1: on TV. That's it. Staged. Yeah, and it was an
- 33:12Speaker 1: excuse to set up Drew and having an argument and
- 33:16Speaker 1: and and it does. It's so fake to me because
- 33:21Speaker 1: to me, it was like say this to the camera
- 33:25Speaker 1: so that I can go back and tell so and so,
- 33:27Speaker 1: so that I can fight with say so that I
- 33:29Speaker 1: could be relevant on the show. I can't stand that.
- 33:33Speaker 1: And I can see my through the b s. Yeah,
- 33:35Speaker 1: I agree. I love the relationship Marlowe has with her
- 33:41Speaker 1: nephews and big heart for her to bring you know,
- 33:45Speaker 1: her sisters rights, their sisters children, raise them. Um. I
- 33:50Speaker 1: love seeing that dynamic with her and those kids. They're
- 33:53Speaker 1: they're adorable. No, that was my That's my favorite part
- 33:57Speaker 1: of that particular episode. Love seeing marlow be vulnerable. Um,
- 34:03Speaker 1: that's the Marlo that I know personally. She said, she's
- 34:05Speaker 1: a sweetheart and she does give back. So and one
- 34:11Speaker 1: are your thoughts on her finally getting her peach. It's
- 34:14Speaker 1: well deserved. I met Marlowe season four and she checked
- 34:19Speaker 1: all the boxes of an Atlanta house. Why beautiful. I
- 34:22Speaker 1: had a lot of money, guess from a rich old
- 34:25Speaker 1: white man. But she had the money. She had who
- 34:28Speaker 1: he was, by the way, it took us a little
- 34:30Speaker 1: bit he was his name? How shoot, I send it
- 34:33Speaker 1: on the group text. He was like the main guy
- 34:36Speaker 1: who was the president of CNN. No, so it was
- 34:40Speaker 1: rumored for a long time it was Ted Turner. Yes,
- 34:44Speaker 1: but that turned out to be That turned out to
- 34:46Speaker 1: be false. That was the rumor for so long. So no,
- 34:50Speaker 1: but I'm happy she had to Peacha. No, he just
- 34:57Speaker 1: made his rounds. Oh my gosh, I love it. Uh yeah,
- 35:06Speaker 1: um and then what okay, what are your thoughts with
- 35:10Speaker 1: with what's going on with Candy and her husband this season? Look,
- 35:14Speaker 1: I think we saw that storyline play over many times.
- 35:17Speaker 1: You know, the hard working vibe and the husband who
- 35:21Speaker 1: wants her to stay home and you know, oh I
- 35:24Speaker 1: want to indoor pool. Oh we have boxes of the
- 35:27Speaker 1: indoor pool. You know we we've seen that time and
- 35:29Speaker 1: time again. I want to see something different at fresh
- 35:32Speaker 1: from them. Um. She's been on the shelf for twelve
- 35:35Speaker 1: years and I think it's time we got a freshen
- 35:37Speaker 1: of that storyline. Yeah, well I've been pretty hellow. When
- 35:42Speaker 1: she was on our podcast, she was lovely so nice.
- 35:47Speaker 1: Was like, you are talking to a well oiled like me. Yeah,
- 35:53Speaker 1: you weren't getting any crumbs. You weren't like there was
- 35:56Speaker 1: not a lot of expression. Yeah, did you like the
- 35:59Speaker 1: interview you had? Yeah? I mean, okay, it was I
- 36:03Speaker 1: thought it was fine. Like I I liked her. I
- 36:05Speaker 1: would want to hang out with her again. I just
- 36:08Speaker 1: felt like it was so polished that like here, I
- 36:11Speaker 1: feel like there are parts that we can all laugh
- 36:13Speaker 1: and it's light. Like it felt like having to like
- 36:16Speaker 1: sucked the information out of now. I think that she
- 36:18Speaker 1: just didn't feel comfortable, maybe because she didn't know us,
- 36:21Speaker 1: maybe so she didn't like some people like you. I
- 36:24Speaker 1: could talk to Carlos for the first time and be like,
- 36:26Speaker 1: oh I got like jokes we are. But maybe she's not.
- 36:31Speaker 1: Obviously she's not like that. No, she isn't. She isn't.
- 36:34Speaker 1: I work with her since the day she hopped on
- 36:36Speaker 1: on set. She it takes a while for her to
- 36:39Speaker 1: warm up to you. That's how I take a long time.
- 36:42Speaker 1: Whereas you know, when you watched like Cynthia on Girls Trip,
- 36:46Speaker 1: you saw a certain side of her, and then she
- 36:48Speaker 1: was on our podcast. Granted I got to know her
- 36:50Speaker 1: on Big Brother, but she was an open book and
- 36:53Speaker 1: like funny, and I saw a totally different side of
- 36:57Speaker 1: her than I ever saw on TV. Yes, yes, now
- 36:59Speaker 1: stay Fia. And that's another person who is underestimated because
- 37:06Speaker 1: I felt cheated not seeing Kenya and Cynthia address their
- 37:12Speaker 1: friendship based on what happened on Girls Trip, Like I
- 37:17Speaker 1: believe they let go of these people way too soon,
- 37:19Speaker 1: because why are they doing this? You know, listen, listen,
- 37:25Speaker 1: I can tell you what I think. I haven't worked
- 37:27Speaker 1: on those shows in five years. I think a lot
- 37:31Speaker 1: of times, unfortunately, people look at tweets and believe that's
- 37:37Speaker 1: what the audience wants. And as a producer, I have
- 37:41Speaker 1: a very successful show on the oper wom From network
- 37:44Speaker 1: called The Love and Marriage Franchise, and I think mon
- 37:46Speaker 1: needs go to come to your podcast toot. Yes, yes,
- 37:51Speaker 1: you're gonna love from this new show Love and Marriage DC.
- 37:54Speaker 1: But anyways, I have a big show on the oper
- 37:57Speaker 1: Wmfrey network. It's the number one show and people tweet
- 38:01Speaker 1: it trends every week. People talk so much trash about
- 38:04Speaker 1: my cast members and they tell me fire this person,
- 38:07Speaker 1: fire that person. I always say, if you are begging
- 38:11Speaker 1: for me to fire somebody, they must be doing something right,
- 38:17Speaker 1: because I don't want so many people on my show
- 38:21Speaker 1: that you love everybody and I think I think what's
- 38:24Speaker 1: happening lately. I think a lot of people are making
- 38:28Speaker 1: decisions based on Twitter, and that's the horrible think about it,
- 38:34Speaker 1: about it to everybody. I don't think about it. Now,
- 38:39Speaker 1: let's have a conversation girls, think about it. Think about
- 38:42Speaker 1: who's currently one show O C and Beallly Hills and
- 38:49Speaker 1: the ones they sort of let go. You're sort of like,
- 38:52Speaker 1: but why, like, what was the thought process in it?
- 38:57Speaker 1: People work? People are asking for me to be fired,
- 39:00Speaker 1: People were asking pretended to be fired. People were But
- 39:03Speaker 1: here's the thing, and this is we talked about this
- 39:05Speaker 1: on our last podcast. And it's not me like trying
- 39:09Speaker 1: to toot my own horn or tamera, but it's like,
- 39:11Speaker 1: no matter what we say, we're immediately trending. We're immediately
- 39:15Speaker 1: like It's it's like a it's a polarizing situation. You know,
- 39:21Speaker 1: people either love us or they hate us. And I'm
- 39:24Speaker 1: not saying I want to go back on Beverly Hills.
- 39:26Speaker 1: I want to do Girls Checked to be perfectly honest,
- 39:28Speaker 1: but I do think we have to get to the
- 39:31Speaker 1: point where we have to be honest with what we
- 39:33Speaker 1: want to watch. And I know that's the thing I
- 39:36Speaker 1: don't want to watch everybody getting along and exactly the
- 39:39Speaker 1: same and forcing fake drama. I want to I want
- 39:42Speaker 1: to see every different type of person. I want to
- 39:45Speaker 1: see the dynamic of what they show sought out to
- 39:47Speaker 1: be and it was these these interesting friendship groups and
- 39:52Speaker 1: the dynamic that came along with them being around each
- 39:54Speaker 1: other and even seeing like the alliances sort of like
- 39:58Speaker 1: form and and fall out based on being around each
- 40:02Speaker 1: other for so long. Um I it's funny because even
- 40:06Speaker 1: for Billy Hills, a lot of people are like, we
- 40:08Speaker 1: just want to see Crystal, Sutton and Garcela and I
- 40:11Speaker 1: love all three? What's a show with? The people are funny?
- 40:17Speaker 1: That's why you can't, I'm telling you. Unfortunately, people are
- 40:22Speaker 1: casting and making casting choices in my opinion, based on Twitter. Well,
- 40:27Speaker 1: then I guess I'm getting us back then because Twitter,
- 40:30Speaker 1: Twitter wants me back. Now they want to be gone,
- 40:32Speaker 1: but now they want me back, want me back. Twitter.
- 40:36Speaker 1: It's fine. I can't even breathe and Twitter, what would
- 40:40Speaker 1: you do with Orange? What would you do with Orange County?
- 40:44Speaker 1: Easy things? And you guys may disagree, that's fine, Bicky, Tamera, Heather, Shannon,
- 40:51Speaker 1: Regretchien and um, you can bring me a new person
- 40:55Speaker 1: maybe maybe maybe even too, maybe a new housewive. So
- 40:58Speaker 1: that's six housewives and a friend to the show. Emily
- 41:02Speaker 1: or Gina. Absolutely not, and I mean that with all respect.
- 41:07Speaker 1: I don't I'm not a mean person. I'm shady, but
- 41:09Speaker 1: I'm not mean. I love I loved Emily and Gina
- 41:13Speaker 1: the first season because it was nice to see a
- 41:15Speaker 1: different group coming to the Midst. But listen, I think
- 41:18Speaker 1: everyone had their time. I think Emily and Gina's times
- 41:22Speaker 1: are up, and I'm more interested in seeing Vicky, Tamera, Heather, Shannon,
- 41:27Speaker 1: Gretchen and a new housewife. I'll be down with that.
- 41:32Speaker 1: I would be happy to recap that I was so bored.
- 41:35Speaker 1: I mean, I hate boring, is like you know, my
- 41:38Speaker 1: trigger word. But I watching o C was honestly like
- 41:43Speaker 1: Saint Drive this year. So it was I stopped watching
- 41:46Speaker 1: after episode seven. Well I was I was done. I
- 41:51Speaker 1: was done with it. I did not watch the reunion. Yeah,
- 41:54Speaker 1: well you didn't miss anything. Dr Jen didn't say one word.
- 41:58Speaker 1: It was shocker, not a word. There's a meme of
- 42:04Speaker 1: just her making the same similar type botox faces. But
- 42:09Speaker 1: we have one final question for you. When are we
- 42:12Speaker 1: both going to get to be on your show? Yes?
- 42:15Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you have to be listening. You guys
- 42:17Speaker 1: understands I have Tamar on my show. It trended, people
- 42:21Speaker 1: were crazy for it is one of my highest um downloads.
- 42:25Speaker 1: I would love to have you two on and listen.
- 42:28Speaker 1: Are talking TV. We're talking TV show. Oh so my
- 42:32Speaker 1: nute late by show, The Night carlos Key is a
- 42:35Speaker 1: thirty minute after party talk show, variety show. Can't you
- 42:39Speaker 1: guys be on my show? Please? And I'm really asking
- 42:42Speaker 1: yes somehow I asked firstas like, I'm really yes, we
- 42:46Speaker 1: want to be we want to be. I texted about
- 42:48Speaker 1: it prior. I'm like, we need to be on his show.
- 42:50Speaker 1: She's like, I know. I'm like, but I don't know
- 42:52Speaker 1: if he shaated me to Dave Quinn. So we gotta
- 42:54Speaker 1: figure this out. No, I'm not. She doesn't let things
- 42:58Speaker 1: go easily. Be I promise you and I would be
- 43:01Speaker 1: honest if I was. I honestly, I am totally kidding,
- 43:06Speaker 1: but no, I would love to have you to on
- 43:08Speaker 1: and listen. I'm gonna be out in l A in
- 43:10Speaker 1: a few weeks. I'll text camera, let's do a group chat.
- 43:13Speaker 1: I would love to take you guys out to dinner.
- 43:15Speaker 1: Where's home for you now? Right now? I'm in Atlanta.
- 43:18Speaker 1: Oh okay, I thought that's where we taped. That's where
- 43:22Speaker 1: we taped it like my show. Well, hell Monique, we
- 43:25Speaker 1: can't wait to record with her, and you gotta love her.
- 43:30Speaker 1: I loved her from the beginning, so I'm I was
- 43:33Speaker 1: like I stanyd Potomac. Potomac is my favorite home. Potomic
- 43:37Speaker 1: is one of the best. I tell people at the time,
- 43:38Speaker 1: the best current seasons is Beadly Hills Hotomic in this
- 43:43Speaker 1: past I mean no, it's still on this current season
- 43:46Speaker 1: of Jersey. Jersey is good. Jersey is good, but I
- 43:50Speaker 1: wish there was more episodes of Jersey. It's too quick.
- 43:54Speaker 1: I like it the way like, Okay, they can't afford Teresa, Honey,
- 43:57Speaker 1: I'm used to how much for joining us? We'll see
- 44:01Speaker 1: you to I got Carlos and Krack. Bye bye, m